The NXR Podcast - April 29, 2022


QUESTIONS - How Can We Expose The Hypocrisy Of Big Eva?


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8 minutes

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1,571

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110

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In this episode, the guys talk about the sneaky ways in which Evangelical leaders use false witness, and why it's so common in the modern era. They also talk about Tim Keller and Francis Collins, and how they ve been accused of lying to the church.

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00:00:00.000 Hey guys, real quick before we get started, I have a small request.
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00:00:21.540 This one's for you, John, for sure.
00:00:23.520 You too, AD, but what scripture would you give to address the more weaselly, 0.61
00:00:27.640 sneaky ways that big eva types bear false witness e.g. relentless ambiguity that allows the wiggle
00:00:37.120 room defense of that's not what i was referring to or non-specific accusations without names
00:00:43.840 can't be verified the over generalization accusations against the entire church
00:00:48.820 uh trivial uh trivial easy to find a singular example basically it's a for me does it say
00:00:55.700 It's for me.
00:00:56.300 Well, I just feel like...
00:00:57.140 Because the word weasel came up in it, and that's 80s' favorite word.
00:01:00.600 I did.
00:01:01.360 That's true.
00:01:03.600 I like how this question isn't...
00:01:05.440 It's not tainted at all from the beginning.
00:01:08.320 Weasley.
00:01:10.880 Or the one way to skin a weasel.
00:01:13.880 Yeah.
00:01:14.540 What scripture comes to mind?
00:01:15.860 I would say, you know, one like, you know, let your yes be yes, let your no be no, or
00:01:20.500 the proverb about a winking eye or something like that.
00:01:23.680 the pursed lips of
00:01:26.320 a, do you know that one?
00:01:28.660 You know a lot about the Bible, right? The proverb
00:01:30.500 about, pastor, pastor,
00:01:32.780 pursed lips and squinting
00:01:34.680 eyes, it's like about, it's
00:01:36.580 about someone like going like, yeah, you know
00:01:38.640 like, it's in Proverbs. I have the whole Bible
00:01:40.640 memorized, but this is a learning moment
00:01:42.640 for you. Yeah. To feel like
00:01:44.140 you should know the Bible. Yeah.
00:01:46.720 I can't help it. I just read this
00:01:48.680 the other day. It's just embarrassing. Anyway,
00:01:51.000 but there's a few Proverbs that talk about
00:01:52.680 this, about deceitful people, right? Deceitful people. And so I think there's more than one way
00:01:57.420 to wink, you know? And I think a lot of times, you know, evangelical leaders, especially the
00:02:02.300 ones that I criticize, they'll put something out there. Like Tim Keller did this just the other
00:02:06.600 day. He put out a whole thread about, you know, is it okay for a civil servant, a federal agency
00:02:14.740 employee to be a Christian, but work for an agency that's doing evil things? And he never mentioned,
00:02:20.880 And Francis Collins, who just, yes, the day before an article came out about all the evil
00:02:27.520 things that he's doing and funding, and the Trump administration had cut funding for abortion
00:02:33.740 research, and he wanted more funding, he's supposedly a Christian, for abortion research.
00:02:39.240 So this article just came out, and then Tim Keller magically comes out with this thread
00:02:42.980 about, is it okay, hypothetically, I'm definitely not talking about anyone specific for this.
00:02:48.060 And so people called him out instantly, like, why don't you just name him?
00:02:51.240 Like, what are you talking about?
00:02:52.700 He tried to compare it to Daniel.
00:02:54.200 You know, Daniel worked for Nebuchadnezzar.
00:02:58.600 Yeah, right.
00:02:59.020 And so he tried to compare it to that and Joseph working for the pharaoh.
00:03:02.160 And the problem with that, everyone instantly saw this.
00:03:04.620 I'm not a genius, but, you know, those guys didn't compromise themselves, though, right?
00:03:08.740 Like, Daniel worked for Nebuchadnezzar, but he didn't obey him when he said, don't pray to anyone but me.
00:03:15.520 And so it would be Darius, that's right, right.
00:03:19.340 So it would be comparable if Daniel, what he had actually done, was say, you know, like, maybe we should pray more to Darius.
00:03:28.340 That would be what Francis Collin did.
00:03:30.020 But anyway, whatever.
00:03:30.960 So he didn't name him.
00:03:32.620 The next day he comes out and says, I wasn't talking about anyone specific.
00:03:37.740 And it's like, it's just so insulting.
00:03:40.000 And so I think it's those verses in the Proverbs about winking faces and pursed lips, not letting your yes be yes.
00:03:48.740 Tell me who you're talking about because we all know who you're talking about, and we're not playing that game anymore.
00:03:53.740 Nobody's buying Tim Keller's I wasn't really talking about that.
00:03:56.960 He was.
00:03:57.960 He was.
00:03:58.600 There's no hypothetical corporate boardroom member that he was talking about.
00:04:02.360 So that's what I would think.
00:04:04.920 Honestly, it's just not bearing false witness.
00:04:07.560 That's great.
00:04:08.260 John?
00:04:09.600 Any thoughts?
00:04:10.880 You were researching.
00:04:12.580 I was looking up the proverb.
00:04:13.880 I found it, and I put it back in my pocket.
00:04:15.500 It's a real proverb.
00:04:16.940 Yeah, it is.
00:04:17.780 You weren't just making it up.
00:04:20.100 You want me to tell you it's like Proverbs 20 or something?
00:04:22.500 I was like, yeah, that was Confucius, dude.
00:04:25.040 That wasn't the Proverbs, man.
00:04:27.760 Yeah, well, there's a few, actually.
00:04:29.960 It wasn't just one.
00:04:31.360 Now my phone's about to die.
00:04:35.140 I don't know.
00:04:36.080 Oh, Proverbs 10.
00:04:37.000 There we go.
00:04:37.640 Proverbs 10.
00:04:38.120 10.
00:04:38.500 That's one of them.
00:04:39.220 talks about winking eyes. So, yeah, so mine's a little, my answer to this is a little bit,
00:04:45.540 I think, like big picture here, like start with God, his character. That's the basis for morality.
00:04:51.460 God is clear, right? He communicates in such a way that we can know. He's not double-tongued.
00:04:59.320 There's a lot of proverbs about that too. He's not the author of confusion, right? That's who God
00:05:05.460 is. So if you go to Galatians, this is the specific story I was thinking of is when Paul
00:05:12.500 confronts Peter and literally he accuses Peter and the guys with him in Galatians 2 and 3 of
00:05:20.020 being, he says, in some translations even say it this way, they were not clear about the gospel.
00:05:25.660 They lacked clarity about that specific issue. And so that was enough for Paul to publicly rebuke
00:05:32.160 Peter. And so clarity is kind of assumed. Like in order to know that someone's qualified as a
00:05:38.660 pastor, like you have to assume like they're not lying to you. What they say is what they mean.
00:05:43.580 They have to be able to refuse those who contradict the word. And so like that requires a lot of
00:05:49.760 clarity. And if you don't have clarity, if you can't communicate, then you're, I mean, that's
00:05:54.800 like half your job as a pastor is to teach. Like how do you teach anyone if you don't know how to
00:05:59.900 actually like say what you mean and mean what you say. So this is just something that deceiving
00:06:06.620 spirits do. This is something that the devil does to confuse people. Has God really said? I mean,
00:06:12.400 he kind of did, but like, that's not from the Lord when it's not clear. The Lord is clear about
00:06:17.680 things. So you can go and apply that to your life plan and all kinds of other areas too. Like, you
00:06:23.300 know, there's, you know, whatever is not a faith is sin. Like we, things are pretty clear cut when
00:06:27.880 it comes to those issues so and the winking eye thing so let me just say one more thing too
00:06:32.100 i i've been accused at times of having a overly aggressive tone i know it's hard to believe i've
00:06:40.520 had that too that's really weird anyway um anyway so i've never had that the bible warns about false
00:06:48.160 teachers um regularly right and if you look the bible talks about how their tone it really does
00:06:57.100 But it's always smooth, buttery words that you, they're not aggressive.
00:07:03.320 They're coming to you smooth talkers.
00:07:05.940 And I think that when you see some of these guys that put out, and this is not a hard and fast rule, so I'm not saying that.
00:07:10.720 But they put out these passive aggressive messages that everybody in the world knows exactly who they're talking about, but they don't say it.
00:07:19.780 They do that so it comes out smooth and buttery.
00:07:23.860 And then they also do it so that when you call them on it, they're like, why are you accusing me?
00:07:28.880 Accuser of the brethren.
00:07:29.940 I never said that.
00:07:31.100 And it's a tactic of devils.
00:07:33.000 It's a tactic of demons.
00:07:34.500 And the reality is next time someone warns you about someone like me's tone, ask him why false teachers are never talked about as the aggressive ones.
00:07:44.200 It's always Paul that's getting aggressive.
00:07:46.240 It's Jesus that's getting aggressive with the false teachers.
00:07:49.400 And so I'm not saying that my tone justifies my content, by the way.
00:07:52.700 but what I am saying is that
00:07:54.560 the warning you should be looking out for when you're
00:07:56.660 considering people that are teaching falsely is
00:07:58.540 they're smooth talkers
00:08:00.220 that's right, it's like you said, tactic of 0.78
00:08:02.700 demons, it's also effeminate
00:08:04.100 and that said 0.93
00:08:06.380 I think we've all done, I've done it, I'll speak for myself
00:08:08.840 there are times where I've been indirect
00:08:10.500 indirect, for a man to be indirect
00:08:12.680 I think is effeminate and I've been
00:08:14.540 indirect and I think that's effeminate and that's a sin that
00:08:16.500 I gotta repent of
00:08:18.520 and continue to rely on the Lord Jesus to make
00:08:20.660 the righteous are as bold as lions
00:08:22.200 Lord, make me bold.
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