The NXR Podcast - April 29, 2022


QUESTIONS - How Can We Expose The Hypocrisy Of Big Eva？

Hosted by
Joel Webbon Harrison Smith Antonio Griffith Dale Partridge Wewsley Todd Calvin Robinson
Mentioned
Proverbs Daniel Tim Keller Peter Paul Nebuchadnezzar Darius John Francis Collins Confucius Weasley Joseph
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8 minutes

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In this episode, the guys talk about the sneaky ways in which Evangelical leaders use false witness, and why it's so common in the modern era. They also talk about Tim Keller and Francis Collins, and how they ve been accused of lying to the church.

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00:00:00 Hey guys, real quick before we get started, I have a small request.
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00:00:21 This one's for you, John, for sure.
00:00:23 You too, AD, but what scripture would you give to address the more weaselly, 0.61
00:00:27 sneaky ways that big eva types bear false witness e.g. relentless ambiguity that allows the wiggle
00:00:37 room defense of that's not what i was referring to or non-specific accusations without names
00:00:43 can't be verified the over generalization accusations against the entire church
00:00:48 uh trivial uh trivial easy to find a singular example basically it's a for me does it say
00:00:55 It's for me.
00:00:56 Well, I just feel like...
00:00:57 Because the word weasel came up in it, and that's 80s' favorite word.
00:01:00 I did.
00:01:01 That's true.
00:01:03 I like how this question isn't...
00:01:05 It's not tainted at all from the beginning.
00:01:08 Weasley.
00:01:10 Or the one way to skin a weasel.
00:01:13 Yeah.
00:01:14 What scripture comes to mind?
00:01:15 I would say, you know, one like, you know, let your yes be yes, let your no be no, or
00:01:20 the proverb about a winking eye or something like that.
00:01:23 the pursed lips of
00:01:26 a, do you know that one?
00:01:28 You know a lot about the Bible, right? The proverb
00:01:30 about, pastor, pastor,
00:01:32 pursed lips and squinting
00:01:34 eyes, it's like about, it's
00:01:36 about someone like going like, yeah, you know
00:01:38 like, it's in Proverbs. I have the whole Bible
00:01:40 memorized, but this is a learning moment
00:01:42 for you. Yeah. To feel like
00:01:44 you should know the Bible. Yeah.
00:01:46 I can't help it. I just read this
00:01:48 the other day. It's just embarrassing. Anyway,
00:01:51 but there's a few Proverbs that talk about
00:01:52 this, about deceitful people, right? Deceitful people. And so I think there's more than one way
00:01:57 to wink, you know? And I think a lot of times, you know, evangelical leaders, especially the
00:02:02 ones that I criticize, they'll put something out there. Like Tim Keller did this just the other
00:02:06 day. He put out a whole thread about, you know, is it okay for a civil servant, a federal agency
00:02:14 employee to be a Christian, but work for an agency that's doing evil things? And he never mentioned,
00:02:20 And Francis Collins, who just, yes, the day before an article came out about all the evil
00:02:27 things that he's doing and funding, and the Trump administration had cut funding for abortion
00:02:33 research, and he wanted more funding, he's supposedly a Christian, for abortion research.
00:02:39 So this article just came out, and then Tim Keller magically comes out with this thread
00:02:42 about, is it okay, hypothetically, I'm definitely not talking about anyone specific for this.
00:02:48 And so people called him out instantly, like, why don't you just name him?
00:02:51 Like, what are you talking about?
00:02:52 He tried to compare it to Daniel.
00:02:54 You know, Daniel worked for Nebuchadnezzar.
00:02:58 Yeah, right.
00:02:59 And so he tried to compare it to that and Joseph working for the pharaoh.
00:03:02 And the problem with that, everyone instantly saw this.
00:03:04 I'm not a genius, but, you know, those guys didn't compromise themselves, though, right?
00:03:08 Like, Daniel worked for Nebuchadnezzar, but he didn't obey him when he said, don't pray to anyone but me.
00:03:15 And so it would be Darius, that's right, right.
00:03:19 So it would be comparable if Daniel, what he had actually done, was say, you know, like, maybe we should pray more to Darius.
00:03:28 That would be what Francis Collin did.
00:03:30 But anyway, whatever.
00:03:30 So he didn't name him.
00:03:32 The next day he comes out and says, I wasn't talking about anyone specific.
00:03:37 And it's like, it's just so insulting.
00:03:40 And so I think it's those verses in the Proverbs about winking faces and pursed lips, not letting your yes be yes.
00:03:48 Tell me who you're talking about because we all know who you're talking about, and we're not playing that game anymore.
00:03:53 Nobody's buying Tim Keller's I wasn't really talking about that.
00:03:56 He was.
00:03:57 He was.
00:03:58 There's no hypothetical corporate boardroom member that he was talking about.
00:04:02 So that's what I would think.
00:04:04 Honestly, it's just not bearing false witness.
00:04:07 That's great.
00:04:08 John?
00:04:09 Any thoughts?
00:04:10 You were researching.
00:04:12 I was looking up the proverb.
00:04:13 I found it, and I put it back in my pocket.
00:04:15 It's a real proverb.
00:04:16 Yeah, it is.
00:04:17 You weren't just making it up.
00:04:20 You want me to tell you it's like Proverbs 20 or something?
00:04:22 I was like, yeah, that was Confucius, dude.
00:04:25 That wasn't the Proverbs, man.
00:04:27 Yeah, well, there's a few, actually.
00:04:29 It wasn't just one.
00:04:31 Now my phone's about to die.
00:04:35 I don't know.
00:04:36 Oh, Proverbs 10.
00:04:37 There we go.
00:04:37 Proverbs 10.
00:04:38 10.
00:04:38 That's one of them.
00:04:39 talks about winking eyes. So, yeah, so mine's a little, my answer to this is a little bit,
00:04:45 I think, like big picture here, like start with God, his character. That's the basis for morality.
00:04:51 God is clear, right? He communicates in such a way that we can know. He's not double-tongued.
00:04:59 There's a lot of proverbs about that too. He's not the author of confusion, right? That's who God
00:05:05 is. So if you go to Galatians, this is the specific story I was thinking of is when Paul
00:05:12 confronts Peter and literally he accuses Peter and the guys with him in Galatians 2 and 3 of
00:05:20 being, he says, in some translations even say it this way, they were not clear about the gospel.
00:05:25 They lacked clarity about that specific issue. And so that was enough for Paul to publicly rebuke
00:05:32 Peter. And so clarity is kind of assumed. Like in order to know that someone's qualified as a
00:05:38 pastor, like you have to assume like they're not lying to you. What they say is what they mean.
00:05:43 They have to be able to refuse those who contradict the word. And so like that requires a lot of
00:05:49 clarity. And if you don't have clarity, if you can't communicate, then you're, I mean, that's
00:05:54 like half your job as a pastor is to teach. Like how do you teach anyone if you don't know how to
00:05:59 actually like say what you mean and mean what you say. So this is just something that deceiving
00:06:06 spirits do. This is something that the devil does to confuse people. Has God really said? I mean,
00:06:12 he kind of did, but like, that's not from the Lord when it's not clear. The Lord is clear about
00:06:17 things. So you can go and apply that to your life plan and all kinds of other areas too. Like, you
00:06:23 know, there's, you know, whatever is not a faith is sin. Like we, things are pretty clear cut when
00:06:27 it comes to those issues so and the winking eye thing so let me just say one more thing too
00:06:32 i i've been accused at times of having a overly aggressive tone i know it's hard to believe i've
00:06:40 had that too that's really weird anyway um anyway so i've never had that the bible warns about false
00:06:48 teachers um regularly right and if you look the bible talks about how their tone it really does
00:06:57 But it's always smooth, buttery words that you, they're not aggressive.
00:07:03 They're coming to you smooth talkers.
00:07:05 And I think that when you see some of these guys that put out, and this is not a hard and fast rule, so I'm not saying that.
00:07:10 But they put out these passive aggressive messages that everybody in the world knows exactly who they're talking about, but they don't say it.
00:07:19 They do that so it comes out smooth and buttery.
00:07:23 And then they also do it so that when you call them on it, they're like, why are you accusing me?
00:07:28 Accuser of the brethren.
00:07:29 I never said that.
00:07:31 And it's a tactic of devils.
00:07:33 It's a tactic of demons.
00:07:34 And the reality is next time someone warns you about someone like me's tone, ask him why false teachers are never talked about as the aggressive ones.
00:07:44 It's always Paul that's getting aggressive.
00:07:46 It's Jesus that's getting aggressive with the false teachers.
00:07:49 And so I'm not saying that my tone justifies my content, by the way.
00:07:52 but what I am saying is that
00:07:54 the warning you should be looking out for when you're
00:07:56 considering people that are teaching falsely is
00:07:58 they're smooth talkers
00:08:00 that's right, it's like you said, tactic of 0.78
00:08:02 demons, it's also effeminate
00:08:04 and that said 0.93
00:08:06 I think we've all done, I've done it, I'll speak for myself
00:08:08 there are times where I've been indirect
00:08:10 indirect, for a man to be indirect
00:08:12 I think is effeminate and I've been
00:08:14 indirect and I think that's effeminate and that's a sin that
00:08:16 I gotta repent of
00:08:18 and continue to rely on the Lord Jesus to make
00:08:20 the righteous are as bold as lions
00:08:22 Lord, make me bold.
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