The NXR Podcast - QUESTIONS - Should Women Be Allowed To Vote？

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00:00:21.140 Hi, Pastor Joel. I've been listening to you on Biblical Patriarchy,

00:00:24.400 and I'm wondering what you think about women having the right to vote. 0.82

00:00:27.640 Since men lead the home and men should be the governing authorities, then should women have 0.99

00:00:33.660 part in deciding the direction of society? Thanks, Josh. Appreciate that one. Josh is like, 0.99

00:00:40.300 I got him. I, you know, now he's going to have to be controversial. Yeah. I've said this before,

00:00:44.500 so I don't mind saying it again. No, I don't think women should vote. I think that women's 1.00

00:00:49.700 suffrage has done more for women's suffering than almost anything else. Women suffer because of 1.00

00:00:58.680 women's suffrage. And this is, you talk about data and those kinds of things. You can look it up. I 0.98

00:01:03.840 tweeted it recently. But you can look it up. 2016 election results. Somebody did some kind of,

00:01:11.560 they posted a map of the US and all the states and which way they went, blue or red. And the

00:01:19.240 electoral vote and what it would have been. And they did it by subtracting all of the male votes. 0.90

00:01:25.060 What would the outcome have been? You want to guess? Anybody want to guess? Type it in the

00:01:29.860 comments real quick. What do you think? You think Hillary would have beaten Donald Trump if men

00:01:33.960 couldn't vote, if it was just women's votes? In a landslide. In a landslide. I think there was 1.00

00:01:42.400 only like three or four states out of 50 that went red if you take men's votes out of it and

00:01:48.620 it's only women voting. I think Mississippi was one of them. Uh, Oklahoma, I think was one of

00:01:55.260 them. Kansas might've been one of them. That's it. Texas went blue. Uh, yeah, I mean, it was,

00:02:02.660 I think it was like, I can't remember exactly. It was like 86. It might've been like 93% of the

00:02:07.800 electoral vote. Clinton, Hillary, if only women could vote. Um, and I've got a lot of thoughts 1.00

00:02:16.040 on this and a lot of them are controversial, but they're truthful. So I'll share them. One is

00:02:20.600 Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a sinner. First Timothy chapter two,

00:02:28.500 verse nine through 15, right? I do not allow a woman, right? Women must learn quietly and in 1.00

00:02:34.000 full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man, right? And then 1.00

00:02:38.980 Paul, he hinges the argument, not on some cultural thing in his time and place, but on the created

00:02:43.760 order that is timeless before sin ever entered the world. The design and creation of the woman

00:02:49.760 herself. Adam was made from the dust of the ground, and so was the woman. Nope. Adam was 0.96

00:02:55.940 made from the dust of the ground. The woman was made from man and for man, as a helpmate from man 0.99

00:03:01.820 and for man. Even her origin, her design, her creation is all distinct and for a purpose,

00:03:08.080 for a reason. And so it goes on and we have multiple other places. We have 1 Peter chapter

00:03:15.220 3. We've got 1 Timothy chapter 2. We've got Genesis 1, 2, and 3. And one of the things that

00:03:21.480 Paul says commentating on Genesis 3 in the fall that we find happened in the garden is that both

00:03:28.400 sinned, Adam and Eve, but only one was deceived. And there's been a lot of talk and debate about

00:03:34.840 that. So are women on average in general, more gullible, more vulnerable to being deceived than

00:03:42.680 men? That has been the reigning position. Yes. In the affirmative. Yes. Women are more easily

00:03:50.600 deceived than men. That has been the position of the church throughout church history, like all

00:03:56.660 the way up until yesterday. That was not a controversial statement. That was not a

00:04:01.940 controversial belief that is what the church held with with no pushback no no confusion like just

00:04:09.420 of course of course they are why for well for two reasons because we see it all the time in our

00:04:15.160 experience and because the bible says so like and it's not just about eve and the fact that she was

00:04:23.560 deceived by the serpent but multiple other places paul talks about false teachers they creep right

00:04:28.400 So 2 Timothy 3, these men, they creep into households and entice and lure, deceive weak-willed women.

00:04:40.700 Women. 0.84

00:04:42.160 Now, that doesn't mean men can't be deceived, and that doesn't mean that women can't ever not be deceived. 0.71

00:04:47.880 There are godly women, and there are some stout women.

00:04:51.300 And I don't mean physically. 0.99

00:04:52.400 I mean, they're stout theologically.

00:04:54.320 They are robust.

00:04:55.400 They are wise.

00:04:56.320 They are discerning.

00:04:57.320 and praise god so we're talking about a general role right it's the same as serving in the 1.00

00:05:02.800 military right women should not be serving in combat roles in the military period and they 0.93

00:05:07.700 certainly shouldn't be drafted yeah but think about that all right let me connect the dots 0.98

00:05:11.360 women's suffrage the right for women to vote women's draft don't you think for a second that 0.99

00:05:19.160 these things aren't intrinsically correlated women's suffrage the right to vote directly

00:05:25.500 not indirectly not even with a million different multivariant factors no directly one-to-one 0.72

00:05:30.400 ratio women get to vote women get drafted into war and that is probably going to happen unless 0.90

00:05:36.500 unless we have some serious revival some serious changes that that that's that's where we're headed 0.55

00:05:41.960 that discussion is popping up all the time all the time in the news right equality women getting

00:05:50.120 draft my daughters being forced to go into war in the name of equality that's honoring women 0.65

00:05:57.320 are you kidding me sending women to the slaughter is honoring women how did that happen women's 0.74

00:06:04.100 suffrage that's how women voting that's how it is so yeah if number one if only men could vote so

00:06:16.220 statistic, here's another statistic for you. If only men could vote, we didn't have women's 1.00

00:06:20.100 suffrage. Uh, we would not have one Democrat president in the last 50 years. Did you know 0.71

00:06:24.840 that? Not one. So no, I don't think women should vote. And, and it's not just because they vote

00:06:34.240 badly and they do again, it's a general rule. So in the same way that like in general, men can

00:06:40.360 bench press more than women, but there's a few women out there that can bench press more than 0.76

00:06:44.200 a few men. Certainly, of course, I got that. It's a general rule. Okay. So I already gave the 1.00

00:06:49.020 disclaimer, but in general, because of this rule, um, yeah, in general, men vote better than women.

00:06:57.020 They do because men are less prone to being deceived and they're less emotional.

00:07:03.400 And when it comes to leadership, being overly emotional is not a virtue. It's not right. That's

00:07:11.340 the problem with liberals, right? Liberals, the old saying goes like this, liberals always think

00:07:15.640 in terms of solutions, whereas conservatives think in terms of cost or trade-offs. I mean,

00:07:22.280 when a conservative hears of a problem and suggests a solution or hears of a solution

00:07:29.220 suggested, he immediately thinks of what's the cost, which is maturity. It recognizes, again,

00:07:37.320 that we don't live in a vacuum, that we live in a context. And one decision over here may alleviate

00:07:41.720 this problem for this group of people, but cause another problem for this other. That's the way

00:07:46.460 conservatives think. And guess what? Statistically, men, more men are conservatives. So that's the way

00:07:53.140 conservatives think because that's the way men think. Because that's the way men were designed

00:07:57.440 to think. Because that's what men were called to do. Men were called to make decisions for large

00:08:04.340 groups of people. Women are called to make decisions for the four cute chubby cheeked people 0.97

00:08:12.400 sitting in her lap. And so for them, like what does a woman need? If she's going to be a godly 1.00

00:08:21.580 mother and these kinds of, what are some of the virtues and the attributes? Like she needs 0.95

00:08:26.400 compassion. She needs to be nourishing. She needs to be hospitable. She needs to be patient. She 0.96

00:08:31.840 needs to be like all the things that women are because women are better than men at a lot of 0.98

00:08:35.900 things but the question is what things are they better at and and then what roles what tasks do

00:08:42.460 those virtues those strengths are they best suited for you know so here's another way to say it 0.88

00:08:49.900 kentonji uh brown jackson right our new supreme court justice pick right she's fully qualified 0.95

00:08:55.600 because she's black and a woman of course uh those are the only qualifications that she met

00:08:59.300 apparently because of the only qualifications that were being sought after by our great president

00:09:03.500 joe biden but she's now right she's now sitting on the supreme court and and one of the things

00:09:08.380 conservatives guys like ted cruz and other guys were throwing at her and saying you're not qualified

00:09:12.180 you should not be on the supreme court is is that she had very light penalties judgments rulings

00:09:19.700 for child predators pedophiles pedophiles and she would always and maybe not always many times in

00:09:31.440 many cases it wasn't just one instance that many cases were brought up where she gave the lightest

00:09:36.620 sentence the lightest penalty she possibly could to the perpetrator why because that's the guy who's

00:09:43.600 standing in front of her not the kids that he endangered that he abused but but the guy himself

00:09:48.940 the criminal. He's the one who's standing before her and she's a woman. So what does she do?

00:09:55.060 She exercises mercy, compassion, which is great in the home. It's not great in the civil magistrate 0.88

00:10:03.000 because the civil magistrate is not called, it's not Romans 13, right? God appointed the

00:10:09.200 civil magistrate and he equipped the civil magistrate with warm hugs. No, with a sword.

00:10:14.520 so the question is who should bear a sword i've heard some guys really conservative guys and i

00:10:21.620 would agree with this they've argued that well the sword is a phallus and phalluses belong to men

00:10:26.820 being a part of the civil magic even if you're not in a combat role in the military or this or

00:10:32.920 that just just the role itself whether it's mayor or governor or city council or or supreme court

00:10:38.040 justice the civil magistrate is it is for men it is to make decisions not just for individuals in

00:10:45.040 your home such as your children but but rather to make decisions that will hurt one group and help

00:10:51.840 another because we live in a fallen world we live we don't we don't live in this magical unicorn

00:10:58.400 rainbow world that liberals think we live in where it's just solutions oh people are poor so

00:11:02.740 a universal income. No, no, we live in reality, right? There are trade-offs, right? Another

00:11:09.860 famous saying, you know, that you've probably heard before is this. If a man is not a liberal

00:11:18.500 or if a person is not a liberal, whatever, something like that. If you're not a liberal

00:11:22.680 when you're young, you don't have a heart. If you're not a conservative when you're old,

00:11:26.320 you don't have a head or a brain. There's a reason why young people tend to vote Democrat.

00:11:32.740 And then those same people, as they get older, not in every case, again, just talking about

00:11:37.300 generalities, but as you age, you start to vote conservative.

00:11:40.660 Why?

00:11:41.060 Well, because when you're young, you just want solutions and you don't want to ever be a

00:11:46.420 part of the solution.

00:11:47.160 You just want to vote in such a way that it forces somebody else to solve this problem

00:11:50.740 that you don't like.

00:11:52.500 But when you're older, here's one of the things that you have when you're older, money.

00:11:56.320 so now that solution you're the dude who it's taking taxes out of your check you're the guy

00:12:04.040 who actually has to pay for that solution now when you're 60 versus when you're 20

00:12:09.100 so older people tend to be more conservative and not just because oh you know we've evolved as a

00:12:16.460 culture yeah there's there's plenty of truth there but it's not just like oh young people

00:12:20.560 it's it's just the way we're heading and and and we're just always going to have liberal people

00:12:24.140 from now on the older people that's just because they were from a previous generation no no think

00:12:28.060 about this for a second the baby boomers the baby that's the 60s generation make love not war

00:12:35.160 the boomers who are voting for republicans are the 60s people who are standing on the white

00:12:44.880 white house lawn holding signs you know and and protesting everything and smoking copious amounts

00:12:52.180 of marijuana. It's not two different groups of people. It's the same people. They grew up.

00:13:00.000 They just grew up. It's the same people, just the people changed. And part of what changed them

00:13:04.720 is maturity. They grew up. They grew up and they began to see different things. They began to see

00:13:10.420 it's not just solutions, but there are trade-offs. If we do this, that means that. And I think in

00:13:16.500 general, that comes with two factors, right? Because I'm kind of getting off a little bit,

00:13:19.840 but let me bring it back. I think part of that comes with maturity and age, and part of it also

00:13:23.440 comes with testosterone. I really think that. I really think that there is something innate to

00:13:29.300 being a male that allows, again, general rule, not each and every individual, but in general,

00:13:35.520 I think men are able to pan out and remove themselves from the situation and not be geared

00:13:42.400 or dictated by their own emotions and look at the bigger picture. I just think that that is a

00:13:49.280 reality. So I think in experience and the way that God designed men, men have been made, I think,

00:13:54.240 to make decisions for others. So no, I don't want women voting and making decisions for the nation 1.00

00:14:04.040 as a whole if their whole heart and mind. Another thing is both men and women are called to work, 1.00

00:14:11.500 right? Titus chapter two, workers at home. Women are called to work, but in the home, keepers at

00:14:15.880 home. Their ministry is at home. So their focus is towards, it's oriented in. Men are oriented 1.00

00:14:23.460 out. We're looking out. We're thinking out. Men think about society. They think about these kinds 0.63

00:14:29.300 of things. Men just, men read the news statistically more than women. So they're also just more

00:14:34.580 informed, not just less vulnerable to being deceived, you know, and their personality and

00:14:39.980 this kind of thing. But like, they also just have more information because they tend to be more

00:14:44.600 interested in political matters and this, it's just, I think it's blatantly obvious. And then

00:14:50.180 you just throw the scripture in the mix and then it's, you know, case closed. The scripture,

00:14:57.160 I think it's very clear that men are called to lead societies. And this idea of the man is the

00:15:02.900 head of his house. Well, what is society? Think about that. That's what the question is getting

00:15:07.220 at. And you did a great job, Joshua, because I know you're thinking this and so good on you,

00:15:10.420 but what is society but the sum of individual households so we're going to say men should be

00:15:16.340 the leaders in their homes but men and women can be leaders in society society is homes that's all

00:15:22.800 society is society is just the summation of households so if if what if god says men should

00:15:29.600 be the head of their wives and the head of their children in the home but and in the church right

00:15:34.120 with male elders and i would argue for a male diaconate from first timothy chapter three like

00:15:37.920 if, if men are called, so the Bible explicitly says men lead in the home of the church.

00:15:44.560 And then we're just going to say, well, but the Bible is not explicit enough for the marketplace

00:15:48.180 or for the civil magistrate or for like, I don't think the Bible is super explicit on those other

00:15:54.920 arenas because, well, I'll say it like this for the same reason, the apostles did not find it

00:16:00.040 necessary to write a verse in the Bible to Christians. It says upon conversion, continue

00:16:04.780 to inhale and exhale. Like in the same way, what I'm saying is in the same way the apostles didn't

00:16:09.540 find it necessary to explicitly command us to breathe because they felt like it went without

00:16:14.860 saying. I think the apostles likewise thought that it was quite obvious that if men are called

00:16:20.820 to lead in the church and the home, and the church and the home is the bedrock of society, then

00:16:26.080 obviously men are called to lead in society as well. Last thing I'll say is this.

00:16:31.940 women's suffrage. Another reason why I don't like it is it's not just that women don't tend in 1.00

00:16:40.580 general to not vote well, which is true. That is statistically proven. Women don't vote well. 1.00

00:16:46.620 But in addition to women not voting well, women's suffrage, the design, and you can read some of 0.96

00:16:54.560 the early feminists and what they were trying to do. They wanted to break up the household. 1.00

00:16:59.880 They wanted to turn women against their husbands

00:17:02.000 because this is the last thing I'll say. 1.00

00:17:03.780 Women always got a vote in our nation's history, always, 0.99

00:17:08.840 by proxy of their husbands. 0.61

00:17:11.520 Husbands voted, not just on behalf of themselves,

00:17:15.220 but historically in our nation, in America,

00:17:18.020 the husband was offering,

00:17:20.060 he was putting forth the household vote.

00:17:23.400 It wasn't just men's vote.

00:17:25.040 It was the vote for men, women, and children

00:17:27.480 that was cast by the head of that household.

00:17:31.120 The head of the household cast the household vote. 0.99

00:17:34.820 And by bringing in women's suffrage, 0.80

00:17:37.420 it divided the household. 0.98

00:17:40.120 And we have never seen the end of that.

00:17:42.800 Not yet.

00:17:44.120 I believe by God's grace, a change is coming.

00:17:47.060 I believe that that will end.

00:17:48.780 But as of now, all we've seen of that is bad fruit. 0.88

00:17:52.060 Women's suffrage didn't just mean women could vote

00:17:54.280 and that they might vote poorly, 0.99

00:17:55.520 but it also meant that women could divide against their husbands and that the household,

00:18:01.500 it was no longer, this is the vote of our family, but it became atomistic, individualistic, right?

00:18:08.140 The whole mindset of Americans began to shift with women's suffrage and multiple other factors

00:18:14.080 as well, but focusing on that one, it began to shift from households, families, society,

00:18:20.500 community to individual individual individual me me me just me we began to view ourselves as

00:18:29.100 individual autonomous autonomous people rather than no we we belong i i'm a member of a family

00:18:37.840 i vote for my family and and what shapes my vote is the interest and the needs

00:18:44.080 the well-being of my family, my wife, my children, and I vote accordingly. And I'm listening to my

00:18:51.440 wife. She does by proxy get a vote because my wife has my ear. And I hear her voice. 0.81

00:18:59.840 I hear her concerns. And all that is going into the equation. But when we cast our vote,

00:19:04.740 it's our vote, not my vote and her vote. And I really do think that women's suffrage, 1.00

00:19:11.420 It divided marriages, it split the household, and it brought women into a realm where they're simply not built for it. 0.95

00:19:24.860 And in the name of what women do best, good things, good things, but compassion and nurturing and kindness and all these things, 0.98

00:19:35.600 it brought good things that are good in the right context into the wrong context and the result has 0.94

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The NXR Podcast - July 23, 2022

QUESTIONS - Should Women Be Allowed To Vote？

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