The NXR Podcast - March 18, 2022


QUESTIONS - What Are Common Signs Your Pastor Lacks The Courage to Defy Tyrants？


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00:00:21.600 And what are common signs that your pastors or elders lack courage to lead
00:00:26.560 and equip their flock, stand for truth, and love God, and defy tyrants?
00:00:32.300 A follow-up question would be, if they lack courage,
00:00:34.220 when should you consider leaving the church and finding another one?
00:00:38.580 I think what Aidy talked about was probably the closest to the spirit of that question.
00:00:44.960 Yeah, no, I think, so this is a tough question
00:00:49.320 because I don't want to cause any trouble at your churches, right?
00:00:52.640 But the thing is, like, when your pastor's policies or opinions on controversial everyday issues are identical to MSNBC, except they sprinkle a little Jesus on top, that's a big sign.
00:01:05.760 You know what I mean?
00:01:06.380 That's a huge sign.
00:01:08.020 And when they don't show a willingness or even an ability to take a little time to think it through, you know, like, they just jump on it, that's a big sign.
00:01:18.520 And I think that you shouldn't just, at that point, you don't just leave, right?
00:01:22.220 And I think most of the people in this audience know that, right?
00:01:24.380 Have the conversation with the pastor, try to talk to him.
00:01:28.380 And I think that those conversations, sometimes they go really poorly.
00:01:33.080 Sometimes they go really well.
00:01:34.780 But I think it's in those conversations when you realize his willingness to sort of stand up to some of this stuff.
00:01:41.640 It's in the kind of back and forth, the questions, hearing them out, where you find that kind of thing.
00:01:46.780 But my thing is, like, so many guys sound like me.
00:01:51.540 It could be, what's that woman with the short hair on MSNBC?
00:01:55.520 Rachel Maddow. 1.00
00:01:56.300 Maddow.
00:01:56.760 Like, they sound like Maddow, and they kind of look like her, too.
00:02:00.720 I should have said that.
00:02:04.140 Except they're, you know, they have Bible verses for it.
00:02:07.260 So it's just weird.
00:02:08.200 It's weird.
00:02:09.280 So I would add to that, kind of like the quote that I think I shared in my talk,
00:02:13.060 but the Martin Luther quote, right?
00:02:14.900 Did I say that in my talk?
00:02:16.780 the Martin Luther quote? Oh, it was to you guys. Yeah. So the Martin Luther quote that I really
00:02:20.960 like, and we talked about it in our recording yesterday, but it says, and I'm going to do my
00:02:25.600 best to paraphrase. I don't have it memorized, but it says, wherever the battle rages, the fiercest
00:02:31.260 there, the loyalty of the soldier is tried. If he is faithful in every battlefield across the
00:02:38.680 gambit, but he flinches, he fails at that one point that is currently being contested.
00:02:45.680 He is not professing Christ.
00:02:48.520 And so what I would say is, and I'll be frank.
00:02:53.320 It's like what AD said.
00:02:54.840 He's like going to a Baptist church as a Presbyterian.
00:02:57.340 And the reason why is like some of the Presbyterian guys,
00:03:00.220 some of the PCA, you know, Revoice and stuff like that,
00:03:03.260 not all PCA churches, but then there's like OPC.
00:03:06.460 I love the OPC.
00:03:07.480 I really do.
00:03:09.180 And, you know, the Vantillion, the Voss,
00:03:11.380 rich treasure troves of doctrine.
00:03:14.820 But for me, as a Reformed Baptist, 35 years old, it's like I've got like two cylinders,
00:03:20.740 but I'm firing on both of them constantly, right?
00:03:23.540 And there's other guys who have got like a V12, but all they do is rev it up in the driveway
00:03:28.080 and they never go anywhere.
00:03:30.800 And so my thing is, if you're Vantillian, right, and you're presuppositional, and you're OPC,
00:03:37.000 and you've got a podcast, and you've got lectures, and you've got dissertations,
00:03:40.340 but you have a mass service and no singing, you failed.
00:03:47.400 So my point is, how do you test courage with a pastor?
00:03:50.200 It's not just, don't just look at comprehensive theology.
00:03:53.560 He affirms the Trinity, he's a Calvinist, he checks all these theological boxes.
00:03:57.380 See which doctrine is currently under fire.
00:04:00.800 Does he flinch at the point that is currently contested?
00:04:04.720 That's currently contested. 0.99
00:04:06.380 If he flinches there, he's a coward.
00:04:09.160 And so what I would say is that true courage is willing to fight Goliath before David kills him.
00:04:18.220 So when the armies of Israel run after the Philistines after David is holding Goliath's head in the air, that's not courage.
00:04:26.980 And so I think there's a lot of guys who it's a thin veneer.
00:04:30.680 It's a fake courage, a pseudo courage, counterfeit courage.
00:04:33.520 that what they do is they go around to giants that have already been slain in a circle and
00:04:38.880 they're kicking them and spitting on them reviling them you know so so right like so toxic masculinity
00:04:43.980 like are there actually men who abuse women and abuse children yes yes is that though is that 0.96
00:04:52.740 the giant of this hour is is our problem abusive masculinity or is our problem jezebel
00:05:01.040 in feminism, right? So, so what you have is, but there was a time when that was pervasive.
00:05:07.240 Yeah. And you're 50 years too late, right? So if you're Amazon prime, you say, uh, elevating black
00:05:11.960 voices, that would have been great 50 years ago. That would have been courageous. It's not courageous
00:05:17.220 now. It's not courageous now. And, and so that, that's what I would say is courage is not just
00:05:22.500 fighting against actual sin and actual problems, but it's fighting over, over the giant that's
00:05:28.680 still at large, the one on the wanted poster who hasn't been brought, brought in yet that that's
00:05:34.300 courage. And, and, but like AD said, um, don't just get up and leave, challenge your pastor to
00:05:39.820 be courageous and see how he responds. But if he responds poorly, um, then I think you can leave
00:05:44.920 respective respectfully, but do him a loving service. Tell him why the Lord might use it.
00:05:50.700 You know, I had to face this with my wife, uh, at a church. So, um, I'll just very briefly say
00:05:57.660 there's a number of questions that I had to ask myself. This is the main one. And this is what I
00:06:03.060 tell people who are in this predicament, especially, and it's tailored for guys, but if you're a mother
00:06:08.000 and, and, you know, the situation, uh, you know, it pertains to you, you know, it may, but so if a
00:06:14.020 guy comes to me, it's like, I don't know about this church. I usually ask him, okay, well, like, what
00:06:17.700 if you died tomorrow and your wife and your kids are still going to this church? And so, and if
00:06:23.480 you're a single mom or something, you know, what if your kids are there? These shepherds are
00:06:26.860 responsible for the spiritual development of your children, of your wife. Would you be comfortable
00:06:32.300 with that? Would you entrust the pastors there to do that? And if the answer is no, if you can't
00:06:37.800 trust them, then I think you have your answer. Like you shouldn't be going there because that's
00:06:41.880 their whole purpose is to watch over your souls and the souls of your family. So if you have to
00:06:46.780 like everything they say, you have to have a conversation about or correct what the pastor
00:06:51.840 just said to your children, then you're at the wrong church. It's pretty simple in my mind.
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