The NXR Podcast - QUESTIONS - What Should I Say To Pastors Using The Enneagram In Church Ministry？

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00:00:43.980 All right. What would you say? This is from Dave. What would you say to a pastor acquaintance who

00:00:51.360 has used the Enneagram in his church ministry? Oh my goodness. It's not surprising. Thousands

00:00:57.400 have thousands have but it is sad it's it's it's um it's sad in in the tragic sense of the word

00:01:04.320 sad and it's sad in the pathetic sense of the the word sad we have the bible right i mean you got

00:01:09.740 pastors who are exegeting right they get up instead of exegeting the text they're exegeting

00:01:13.500 a painting or they actually you know exegeting a movie you know from hollywood like we have the

00:01:19.180 bible the scripture is sufficient it's enough so what would you say to a pastor acquaintance who

00:01:25.900 has used the Enneagram in his church ministry. Um, yeah, I would just, I would just say that

00:01:31.160 that's, he needs to repent of that. And depending on, you know, I, I'd have to, you know, to know

00:01:36.300 the guy and see what else is going on in his ministry, but you know, whether or not, you know,

00:01:39.620 he's actually, you know, disqualified, but he certainly needs to repent and, uh, he needs to

00:01:44.520 preach the word in season and out of, out of season, um, study him, uh, to, you know, to show

00:01:51.300 himself approved, rightly dividing the word of truth. He needs to know the word, study the word

00:01:56.500 and preach the word to be ready in season, out of season. The word is sufficient. It's a double

00:02:02.680 edged sword. The Enneagram is not a sword. It doesn't pierce the hearts of men. If anything,

00:02:07.720 it reinforces the hearts of men to absolve themselves of guilt for sin. We don't need

00:02:14.320 the Enneagram. We don't need the feather duster. We don't need the blindfold. We don't need

00:02:18.820 the drowsy Ambien that puts Christians to sleep. We need the sword that pierces men to the heart,

00:02:27.840 that cuts them, that divides bone from marrow, soul and spirit. The Bible, we have the Bible.

00:02:35.260 It's sufficient. So I would tell them, you are, whether you mean to or not, aside from introducing

00:02:41.340 something that has demonic origins, let's just say that the Enneagram is great. Still, at minimum,

00:02:47.960 what you're doing is you are subtly discipling your congregation to deny the sufficiency of

00:02:54.000 scripture. You are telling your congregation that the Bible is not enough. The Bible is great.

00:03:00.080 It's a good start. But if you really want to help people, if you really want to disciple people,

00:03:05.440 if you really want to know people and understand people, you know, the Bible is not enough.

00:03:10.600 you need the bible plus bible plus bible plus uh anytime you get into faith plus you know it's

00:03:19.740 faith alone plus a little bit of works anytime it's faith plus jesus plus bible plus grace plus

00:03:27.980 glory to god plus uh that's that's not a good place to be that is not where you want to be

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The NXR Podcast - April 15, 2023

QUESTIONS - What Should I Say To Pastors Using The Enneagram In Church Ministry？

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