The NXR Podcast - April 15, 2023


QUESTIONS - What Should I Say To Pastors Using The Enneagram In Church Ministry?

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Pastor Dave: What would you say to a pastor acquaintance who has used the enneagram in his church ministry? Pastor Dave: I would tell him that the Bible is sufficient. God bless!

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00:00:43 All right. What would you say? This is from Dave. What would you say to a pastor acquaintance who
00:00:51 has used the Enneagram in his church ministry? Oh my goodness. It's not surprising. Thousands
00:00:57 have thousands have but it is sad it's it's it's um it's sad in in the tragic sense of the word
00:01:04 sad and it's sad in the pathetic sense of the the word sad we have the bible right i mean you got
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00:01:19 bible the scripture is sufficient it's enough so what would you say to a pastor acquaintance who
00:01:25 has used the Enneagram in his church ministry. Um, yeah, I would just, I would just say that
00:01:31 that's, he needs to repent of that. And depending on, you know, I, I'd have to, you know, to know
00:01:36 the guy and see what else is going on in his ministry, but you know, whether or not, you know,
00:01:39 he's actually, you know, disqualified, but he certainly needs to repent and, uh, he needs to
00:01:44 preach the word in season and out of, out of season, um, study him, uh, to, you know, to show
00:01:51 himself approved, rightly dividing the word of truth. He needs to know the word, study the word
00:01:56 and preach the word to be ready in season, out of season. The word is sufficient. It's a double
00:02:02 edged sword. The Enneagram is not a sword. It doesn't pierce the hearts of men. If anything,
00:02:07 it reinforces the hearts of men to absolve themselves of guilt for sin. We don't need
00:02:14 the Enneagram. We don't need the feather duster. We don't need the blindfold. We don't need
00:02:18 the drowsy Ambien that puts Christians to sleep. We need the sword that pierces men to the heart, 0.99
00:02:27 that cuts them, that divides bone from marrow, soul and spirit. The Bible, we have the Bible.
00:02:35 It's sufficient. So I would tell them, you are, whether you mean to or not, aside from introducing
00:02:41 something that has demonic origins, let's just say that the Enneagram is great. Still, at minimum,
00:02:47 what you're doing is you are subtly discipling your congregation to deny the sufficiency of
00:02:54 scripture. You are telling your congregation that the Bible is not enough. The Bible is great.
00:03:00 It's a good start. But if you really want to help people, if you really want to disciple people,
00:03:05 if you really want to know people and understand people, you know, the Bible is not enough.
00:03:10 you need the bible plus bible plus bible plus uh anytime you get into faith plus you know it's
00:03:19 faith alone plus a little bit of works anytime it's faith plus jesus plus bible plus grace plus
00:03:27 glory to god plus uh that's that's not a good place to be that is not where you want to be
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