QUESTIONS - Why Do āConservativeā Christians Tolerate Jezebelļ¼
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In this episode, Pastor Ken tackles the question, "Why won't anyone speak up against the Jezebels in conservative churches?" in response to a question sent in by a concerned reader. What is a divisive person? What does the Bible say about them, and why do they matter so much?
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All right, so our first question that we're going to take came ahead of time.
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what's your take on the Jezebels in conservative churches? Why won't anyone speak up? And those
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who do are canceled. Let me read it one more time. What's your take on the Jezebels in
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conservative churches? Why won't anyone speak up? And those who do are canceled. I appreciate you,
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Reformed Watchmen, giving us this question. I also appreciate you putting conservative,
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that word in quotation marks, because of course, when this occurs, what you've just described,
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these churches are quasi-conservative. They're not truly being conservative if they are not
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biblically faithful, and if they're not willing to actually address sin as the Bible requires us
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to do so. So let me go ahead and start with scripture. This is 2 Kings chapter 9 verses 30
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through 37. 2 Kings chapter 9 verses 30 through 37. What I want us to start with is looking at
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the final demise, the end of Jezebel, because eventually she was dealt with, although it took
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quite some time. Beginning in verse 30, when Jehu came to Jezreel, Jezebel heard of it and she
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painted her eyes and adorned her head and looked out of the window. All right, let me stop there
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for a second. She knows she's in trouble, right? This is Jehu. He is the king in northern Israel
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and he is coming to eradicate the house of Ahab. Ahab had done much terror in Israel, right? He's
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the one who famously says to Elijah, what do you want, you troubler of Israel? And Elijah the
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prophet responds correctly by saying, I am not the one who is troubling Israel. You are. You are.
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Let me stop right there for a moment. In our evangelical churches today, when we think of
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troublemakers, right? The Apostle Paul was labeled one who stirs up riots. One who, not just a rioter,
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but someone who orchestrates and causes riots, right? So the Apostle Paul was labeled divisive
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by the pagans, by the pagans. They thought he was a rioter. They thought he was quarrelsome,
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right? The same Apostle Paul who tells us that the Lord's servant must not be quarrelsome
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is is accused of being quarrelsome and a rioter and one who stirs up riots somebody who is
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divisive Elijah is accused by Ahab of being a troublemaker and Israel but what we find in the
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pattern of scripture especially in the writings of Paul is that the one who is actually the cause
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of trouble for Israel for the church for the people of God the one who actually causes trouble
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the one who is actually the rioter the divisive person the quarrelsome person is the one who
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introduces error the one who introduces error we've got to get this listen we label people as
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divisive based off of exclusively one criteria their tongue their tongue if we think that their
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tone is not sugar and spice and everything nice we say that they are quarrelsome argumentative
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divisive not gentle not winsome but what we see again and again throughout scripture especially
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in the writings of Paul is that how we say something matters but first and foremost when
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we're trying to discern what is truly divisive the first category that we address is not how
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something is said but what is said not not the messenger but the message not the tone but the
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substance what is actually being said and what the apostle paul tells us multiple times is this
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it's the false teachers who most often have smooth and flattering speech in other words
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by evangelical standards today, the false teachers have the good tone. They're the ones with good
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tone. They're the ones with what would appear to be gentle tone. But the apostle Paul says that
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they are the ones who are instigating division. They are the divisive party. They're the party
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guilty of division. Why? Because they're the ones who introduced error. They're the ones who
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introduced error. So then when someone comes and corrects, reproofs, rebukes them, even if they use
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strong language at times, that person using strong language to rebuke the heretic is not the one
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who's divisive. You know who's divisive? The heretic. The heretic is divisive. They're the
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ones upsetting whole households. They're the ones who are troubling Israel. They're the ones who are
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causing division. They're the ones who are stirring up quarrels. They are the divisive party by virtue
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of not first and foremost, how they say things, but first and foremost, what they say. The one
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who introduces error is the one who is first and foremost divisive. Now, can we correct theological
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error in a way that is lacking the fruit of the spirit in regards to how we speak even though
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what we say is true sure sure but i think that jesus would speak to many of our big evil leaders
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today and tell them exactly what he told the pharisees you are straining gnats and swallowing
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camels. How'd that camel taste? Hope it doesn't choke you on the way down. How's that camel
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treating you, right? You're straining gnats and swallowing camels. In other words, you are spending
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all of your efforts punching to the right, punching without, without pulling any of your
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punches, without weakening any of your blows. You are punching as hard as you can to the
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conservative christian on your right who is correcting error and and doing nothing with the
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ones who introduced the error in the first place because they had smooth and flattering speech
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one of the reasons that error is successful in infiltrating a community is because it's it's
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introduced like poison in a spoonful of sugary, smooth, flattering speech. That's one of the
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reasons why error and false teachers are as successful as they are. Because even though
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what they're saying is poison, how they're saying it is smooth and flattering. So Elijah,
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right he combats ahab and ahab is married to jezebel just so we know all the players in the
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game to answer this question so jezebel is queen she is the wife of ahab ahab is the king and ahab
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what is his sin well there are multiple sins but one is it he's a little boy he's a child right
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somebody has a vineyard and he wants the vineyard he wants the land and he goes and offers to buy it
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for a certain price and the person says, this is my family's land. It's not just valuable in terms
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of money, but it has sentiment. It has a legacy. It's not for sale. And Ahab, he goes away and he
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doesn't just say, okay, well, I'll find some other land. That's fine. That's your right. No, he goes
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away moping for the rest of the day. He doesn't want to be consoled. He's moping. He's pouting.
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he's a child. And then Jezebel counsels him, his wife counsels him on how to get the land
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by doing something that is wicked and unethical, sinful. So Ahab is a little boy. He is whiny.
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He is emotional. He is unhealthy. He is selfish. He is vain. And he's also apathetic.
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This is what you have, the dynamic between Ahab and Jezebel.
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Right there in that picture that I just described of Ahab wanting this vineyard and moping because the guy wouldn't sell it to him.
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And then the dynamic, the way that Jezebel engages her husband.
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You have a boy and his mom rather than a husband and his wife.
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And sadly, that would be an accurate description of many marriages in our nation and our culture today.
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And sadly, many marriages, even within the evangelical church.
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In my pastoral tenure, by God's grace, not recently, not since I've been planting a church
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here in central Texas, but in the past, when I pastored in California, I had to do pastoral
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counsel with many couples where the husband was a son and the wife was his mother.
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for all intents and purposes. That was the dynamic. It was not husband and wife. It was boy
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and mom. And that came through loud and clear in every counseling session. And these were the
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couples that were troublers in my ministry and troublers of the church. And what they would do
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they would often accuse me or somebody else who was speaking the truth of being quarrelsome and
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divisive as they were introducing error whether it be antinomianism they didn't like when i preached
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god's law whether it be feminism they didn't like patriarchy whether it be and the list goes on and
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on and on and this is common in the church and what usually happens is that a pastor doesn't
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even have the courage to address these things to begin with, or if he does, when he inevitably
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experiences the slightest degree of opposition, he folds like a cheap suit. He throws in the towel,
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he retreats, he quits, and he marks kind of that territory, that whole doctrine,
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patriarchy whatever it is fill in the blank uh can't go there can't go there anymore and he
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doesn't go there and he appeases this woman who's functioning not as a wife in submission to her
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husband but rather as a mother leading her little boy husband around by a leash and that is a common
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dynamic. All right. So all that being said, the players in the game, you've got Jezebel
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and Jezebel is the queen, the wife of Ahab. You've got Ahab. He's the king who's a little boy
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and he is apathetic and he is weak. He's effeminate. All those things. Jezebel is
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domineering. She, just like what God said in the curse given to Eve, your desire will be for your
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husband. That's not a romantic desire. Your desire will be for your husband, which means you're just
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going to want to be with him and love him. No, it's the same verbiage later used in Genesis chapter
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four, when God says to Cain, he says, sin is crouching at your door. Its desire is for you.
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Sin's desire is for you. A romantic, sin just wants to love you. No, it's crouching at your door like
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a lion, like a predator about to devour its prey. Its desire is for you, meaning its desire is to
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rule you, to master you, to subdue you, but you must rule over it, right? So the curse in Genesis
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3 is that the woman's desire would be for her husband, meaning her desire will be to rule her
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husband, but he will rule over you. Now, the curse of sin is not patriarchy. Let me say that again.
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The curse of sin, when sin entered the world, the consequence of sin was not patriarchy.
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The consequence of sin is that women won't like patriarchy.
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Now I'm going to be, I'm going to be real in today's episode.
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I'll say it again because some of you, you need to hear it, right?
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The curse of sin is that women don't like patriarchy.
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and you might say well men don't like it either they're soft men yep there are but especially
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women well give me a verse for that i already did genesis chapter 3 it's built into the judgment
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that god delivers specifically to the women the man adam has his own set of judgment he has his
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own set of consequences but particularly to the woman one of the consequences one of the curses
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of sin is that she will want to rule her husband. Patriarchy is not the curse. Adam named his wife.
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That's a form of exercising dominion. That was the mandate. That was the calling, the vocation
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given to Adam before sin ever entered the world. He was to be fruitful and multiply. He was to work
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and keep the ground. And he was to exercise dominion over the birds of the air and the fish
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of the sea and all the beasts of the field. To Adam was given dominion. And one of the ways
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practically that we see Adam before sin enters the picture, exercising his dominion is that God
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brought to Adam each of the different kinds of animals and Adam gave them their name. And so
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they were called. And then God saw that there was no suitable helper, no helpmate for Adam that was
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suitable to him from among all the animals so God caused a deep sleep to come over Adam for it is not
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good that man should be alone and God removed one of his ribs and from the rib not the dust of the
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ground as God made Adam but from Adam himself God made woman woman was made from man and for man
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as a helpmate suitable to man in helping him to carry out the commission that was assigned to him
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by God to work and keep the ground to be fruitful and multiply and to exercise dominion and when
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God woke Adam back up and he saw the woman the woman this is bone of my bone flesh of my flesh
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And what we see is that Adam, later on, he gives, the Bible tells us, he names Eve.
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In the same way that he names each of the different animals, because he has dominion
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over them, he therefore has the right and authority to name them, he also names his
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right even the devil is a father the father of lies john chapter 8 says you're not children of
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abraham you're not children of god jesus says your children speaking to the pharisees you're
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children of the devil you're a chip off the old block children bear a striking resemblance to
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their father you look just like your father he was a murderer from the beginning and here you
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are trying to murder me. Everyone has a daddy. It's either the devil or God. And in the human
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sense, there are civil fathers, there are familial fathers in the home, and there are ecclesiastical
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fathers in the church. Elders are to be men. And in that sense, elders play a role of spiritual
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fatherhood. Fathers in the home, fathers in the church, fathers in the state. So human fathers
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in each of the divinely instituted spheres and then father god reigning over all of that and
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even the father of lies the devil who is father of all those who have not been adopted by grace
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alone through faith alone in the lord jesus christ alone patriarchy is inevitable it's not whether
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but which it's not whether you will be underneath fatherly rule that's what patriarchy means
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fatherly rule. It is not whether fatherly rule will exist and whether or not you will participate
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in it. It's simply which father will you have? Which father will you have? So the curse is not
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patriarchy. The curse is a woman's aversion to patriarchy. And that's what we see in Jezebel.
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So one, we see a domineering spirit. We see a feminist spirit. But in addition to that,
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and these two things typically go hand in hand, not always, but typically, we also see perversion.
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We see sensuality. We see sexual enticement. Jezebel uses her feminine power in order to
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rule over men. God has given, men are powerful, but so are women, just in a different way.
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God has given to women power. Women listening right now, you have a remarkable power given to
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you. And you know this, and you need to be very careful in submission to God, not to abuse that
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power and to use the power that he has given you for loving your husband serving your husband
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pleasing your husband not to use that power to usurp fatherly rule not to use that power
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to somehow entice your husband or hold sexual engagement over your husband's head or to seduce
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God forbid other men who are not your husband, right? We preach all the time in the church,
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right? Every Father's Day sermon is men do better. And every Mother's Day sermon is thank God for
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mothers. I thank God for mothers. That's a good sermon. And on Father's Day, I think we could also
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do thank God for fathers. I think both are good sermons. There are plenty of sermons that address
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the sin of men, but not many sermons addressing the sin of women. But the Bible addresses the sin
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of women. The only way you can avoid it as a pastor in your preaching is by not being an
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expositional preacher, not preaching the Bible, right? The Proverbs are filled with verses about
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dangerous seductive domineering feminist women right her her house is like a graveyard with
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dead men's bones she's a man eater she's a man eater my son stay away from her the wayward woman
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the loud woman right rather than being beautiful in the way that god defines beauty first peter
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chapter three, a quiet and gentle spirit, an inward beauty, an imperishable beauty in the
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sight of God. Instead of that, right, God sees beauty as an inward imperishable beauty of the
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heart, which is defined as a quiet and gentle spirit. And what we see in our culture today,
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and sadly, even in the church, is we see not gentle and quiet women, but loud women. They talk
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loud. They talk a lot. They draw attention to themselves on social media and TikTok. They are
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loud. The way that they dress, scoffing at modesty, they dress loud. Their speech is loud. Their dress
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is loud. The way they walk, the way they talk, it's loud. It's look at me. It's the opposite of
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a gentle and quiet woman. And therefore, it is like a gold ring in a pig's snout, as the Proverbs
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also say, particularly of a woman who is not being quiet in her dress, that is not being modest,
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that doesn't have discretion. A woman like that is beauty wasted. It's beauty wasted. It's something
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precious and priceless misapplied completely thrown away completely cast off that's jezebel
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domineering and seductive and in both ways we could say in her speech and behaviors and even
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in her sexuality in her misuse of that power her abuse of that womanly sexual power in both regards
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both her seduction and her speech and behaviors and wanting authority. In both ways, we could
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define her in a single word. Jezebel is loud. She's a loud woman. And oh, how we have loud
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women in the church today. First Corinthians chapter 14 says, it is shameful for a woman
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to speak in church. And we do exegetical gymnastics like you wouldn't believe triple
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backflips and aerials, somersaults and cartwheels to get out of that. Nope. The text says it is
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shameful for a woman to speak in church. First Timothy chapter two, verses nine through 15.
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women must learn quietly and in full submission i do not permit a woman to teach or exercise
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authority over a man why because of a cultural issue happening right here in this time and place
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nope because of a creation order the created order before sin ever even entered the world
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this is God's patriarchal design it's his design so women should learn they should learn theology
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they should learn the things of God and they should do so quietly they should do so submissively
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they should do so humbly and according to first Peter 3 if they do so in all the ways I've just
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named, they will be doing so beautifully, beautifully in the sight of God. We have loud
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women in the church today, much like their mother Jezebel. And because they're loud, according to
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scripture, they would also be what God would consider ugly. Instead of a quiet and gentle
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spirit that is beautiful in the sight of God, we have loud domineering spirits that are, we can
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only surmise implicitly from the text, ugly in the sight of God, a perishable beauty that is
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fleeting, right? That external physical beauty that goes away. It doesn't last very long, right?
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We all die ugly. Just give it a little while. We all eventually die and rot and decay. We all
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eventually are ugly. And it's like the flower in the field. It's like the grass that withers. It's
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like the dew in the morning that's gone by afternoon. It's fleeting like a vapor.
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We have women who are loud and ugly instead of quiet and beautiful. Is it all women? Of course
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not. Are there beautiful, precious women in the church? You betcha. You betcha. But there are also
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Jezebel's. All right. So Ahab, a weak, pathetic boy, Jezebel functioning as his mom rather than
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his wife, domineering and seductive, loud and ugly. And you have Elijah who is the prophet who
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has his own problems. By the way, Elijah has his showdown at Mount Carmel against the prophets of
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ball. And he wins by the grace and power of God. And he puts all those false prophets to death by
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the sword and slits their throats. And then he gets scared and runs away. Scared of Jezebel.
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God just answered by fire from heaven. And all of Israel, the people on the sidelines watching
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that have been limping back and forth between two opinions, they now declare with a unified front
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that the Lord is God. So you've got the people at your back. They're with you. And all the prophets
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that Jezebel was harboring have been slain. And yet Jezebel makes one threat and Elijah runs.
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he runs scared. Not Elijah's greatest moment. All right. So Ahab, Jezebel, Elijah, the fourth
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player in the game, Jehu. Elijah is the prophet. Jehu is the king, the king in northern Israel.
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Jehu comes into play. Verse 30, 2 Kings chapter 9, when Jehu came to Jezreel, Jezebel heard of it.
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And so what did she do? She knew she was in trouble. She tried to save her life by doing
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what she had always done, using her power in an abusive, wicked way. She painted her eyes
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and adorned her head and looked out the window. There's a lot right there. She doesn't go down
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to meet him. She stays up in her fortified tower. She stays behind the defensive measures. She looks
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from the window and she paints her eyes and adorns her hair trying to use her feminine beauty
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to exercise dominance over jehu to dissuade him from what he's come to do verse 31 and as jehu
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entered the gate she said is it peace you zimri murderer of your master well what is she saying
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you're the troublemaker you're the you're the sinner you're the divisive one you're the one
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causing problems you're the one who's done bad things not me you spoken like every squishy
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evangelical over the last not just two years but five years six years i remember preaching
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against critical race theory in 2018, I think. And tons of people in my church lost their minds,
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lost their ever loving minds that I was the one who was being critical, that I was the one who
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was being quarrelsome. And I've gone back. I mean, the sermon is recorded. You can find it
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on Right Response Ministries. It's a great sermon. I regret nothing. I recant nothing.
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but we lost dozens of people as I preached on that. And it was in the middle of my first Timothy
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series. Some of you guys have heard me mention this series where I lost 40 people in my church
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and my church was only 180 adults at the time. So pretty big chunk right there, almost a quarter
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of the church. We lost a ton of people for saying critical race theory is a bad idea
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and complementarianism shouldn't just be in the home and the church, but I also don't think that
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women should be serving in combat roles in the military i kid you not 40 people because of that
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and and to my shame right i mean those 40 people shouldn't have been in the church in the first
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place what does that say about me right i admit that's my failure god was reforming me and as he
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was reforming me i was repenting of my sin and my idolatry as a pastor but then what am i going to
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do? Reform in my private life? Be sanctified in my private life, but then leave the people to starve?
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Because I know that it's hard and I know that some of them won't like? No. Everything that the Lord
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was feeding me with, I want to feed the sheep with, right? That's one way you could define a
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good pastor. Many ways that you could talk about this, but one way you could define a good pastor
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is number one, that he's going to Christ on a daily basis for daily bread. And he doesn't
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withhold any of the bread he's given personally by Christ from the sheep in his flock. There's no
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bread that Christ has given to me that I don't give to my congregation. In my counsel, in my
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preaching, in all of my ministry duties, whatever God is revealing to me, whatever grace he is
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extending to me, I am giving to his people. I am giving to the flock. As an under shepherd,
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as the chief shepherd nourishes me, I nourish his flock. That's what Jesus says to Peter at the end
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of the gospel of John, right? When Jesus is restoring Peter, after Peter denied him three
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times, Jesus is restoring him. He said, do you love me? Feed my sheep. Do you love me? Feed my
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lambs. Do you love me? Feed my sheep. What does it look like for a pastor to love Jesus?
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feeding his sheep. And therefore, by way of consequence, what does it mean when a pastor
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takes specific food groups, to use this analogy, like meat or vegetables or fruit or grain and
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says, I'll feed your sheep. But this food group over here, we're just going to take that off the
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menu. There won't be any vegetables in their diet. Because I've noticed that when I feed
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your sheep vegetables, they get a lot of regurgitation and they start vomiting on each
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other and me. So we'll just take vegetables out of their diet. I'm sure they'll be fine.
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The analogy breaks down because I'm not really sure what sheep eat, little sheep,
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but you get my point. And pastors don't have the right to do that. We give the people of God
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exactly what God gives us, well-balanced meals. Every food group that we need,
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every nutrients that we need represented and present and accounted for. That's what we do.
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But I get it. I understand the temptation of pastors to avoid this form of faithfulness
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because of the outright demonic reaction i mean shrieking and wailing and gnashing of teeth
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that comes from evangelicals within the church whenever we address certain sins primarily
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the sin that is unique among women a jezebel spirit there's a lot of different idols that
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you can go in and tear down. And nobody likes when you tear down idols, but you can get away
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with a lot of that reform, a lot of that reformation. But you start calling out Jezebel,
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that particular adulteress, that pagan, that troubler. Brace yourself. Brace yourself.
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all right verse 31 jehu enters the gate jezebel says you're the troubler you're a murderer of
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your master verse 32 he lifted up his face to the window and said who is on my side who
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he's not speaking to jezebel he's speaking past jezebel he's speaking to the people who's on my
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side he's not even acknowledging her so she throws out a false accusation he doesn't even
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engage it notice that he's not even dealing with it's just what you're saying is so slanderous
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so ridiculous i'm not even going to to dignify it with a response he speaks right past jezebel
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says who's on my side another way to put it who is not on the side of this witch
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you know what she's saying is slander you've known it all along who is going to finally
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take a stand and stop tolerating what god hates who will do it
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two or three eunuchs looked out at him two or three eunuchs behind past Jezebel
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also looked out the window that she's looking out and look at Jehu and he said not to her
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but to them throw her down and so they threw her down out of the window and some of her blood
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splattered on the wall and on the horses and they trampled on her. Then he went in and ate and drank
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and he said, see now to this cursed woman and bury her for she is a king's daughter. But when they
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went out to bury her, so he's saying she's a cursed woman, she's wicked, she needed to die, but she is
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the king's daughter, we'll give her a burial. But when they went out to bury her,
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they found no more of her than her skull and the feet and the palms of her hands.
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When they came back and told him, he said, this is the word of the Lord, which he spoke by his
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servant, Elijah, the Tishbite in the territory of Jezreel. The dog shall eat the flesh of Jezebel
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and the corpse of Jezebel shall be as dung on the face of the field in the territory of Jezreel
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so that no one can say this is Jezebel and her corpse would be unrecognizable ripped to shreds
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and the majority of it eaten and digested by the dogs precisely what she deserves
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Batman, he beats him again and again and again.
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I remember just thinking, Batman, why won't you just kill Joker? You keep subduing him.
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You keep making sure that he's imprisoned. But we know that in the case of Joker, there's no reform.
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He's not a good guy deep down who's going to eventually come around and mend his ways.
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the only way to truly neutralize the threat of joker is to put them down not just put them away
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but put them down kill joker and so it is with sin so it is in the christian life with idolatry
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We are called not to subdue and not to quarantine, not to manage, not to imprison, not to quarter, but to mortify sin.
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The Puritans said, be killing sin or it will be killing you.
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The reason why we tolerate sinners is because we tolerate in our own hearts sin.
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The reason why we tolerate people like Jezebel is because we, at some extent, are tolerating some of those very same sins that give birth to the terror of someone like Jezebel.
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I'll finish the question with this. What you need, I think, is number one, you need a team.
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There are multiple players in this equation. Jezebel would not have been the terror that she
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was. She would have been just as wicked of a woman, but her wickedness would have been more
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restrained in terms of what she was able to do, the wickedness she was able to accomplish,
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if it wasn't for her position, her proximity to the king and a weak king at that, King Ahab.
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So one of the things that we need to do if we're going to deal with Jezebel in the church
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is we need to deal with Ahabs that empower her. Guys who would never actually say the garbage
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that she says out loud, but they are the ones responsible for creating the protections that
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allow her to say what she says, right? The Ahabs. There are Ahabs in the SBC. There are Ahabs in the
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PCA. There are Ahabs in the Gospel Coalition. They're also just flat out Marxists in the
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gospel coalition, but some of them, they're not Marxists, but they're Ahabs that make provisions
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for the Marxist, right? So one, you got to deal with Ahab in order to deal with Jezebel.
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Two, you need prophets, kings, and eunuchs. Prophets, kings, and eunuchs. You need an Elijah,
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but you also need a Jehu. Notice Elijah, he knew that Jezebel was wrong and Elijah was used by God,
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by the spirit of God to get a lot of progress on that particular issue. He cried out against both
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Ahab and Jezebel and he ultimately was the one who God used to put all of Jezebel's henchmen,
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the prophets of Baal to death, and he won the people of Israel back over. So Elijah was used
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by God to do a lot, but the death blow delivered to Jezebel herself so that she couldn't regroup
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and become a terror again in the future was not the prophet, but the king, Jehu.
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we can't just have prophets we need prophets oh my don't misunderstand me we need more prophets
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they are willing to speak unapologetically the word of god and to speak it boldly to speak it
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publicly but we also need kings and what i mean by that is we need christian men in positions
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of leadership that will actually listen to the prophets and do what they say.
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See, one of my concerns is, I mean, I'll look at Twitter, you know, or I'll look at YouTube,
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or I'll look at, you know, all these different, you know, platforms and by God's grace, there's
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still not a lot of us, but God is raising up some prophets, right? You got A.D. Robles,
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you got John Harris, you know, you've got guys in this sphere of evangelicalism who are sounding
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the alarm and speaking truth. But a lot of these guys, like John Harris and A.D. and myself,
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don't have a whole lot of institutional power and leadership.
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One of the reasons we put our finger on Big Eva is because we're not a part of it.
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we're not headline speakers at their conferences we don't have a seat on the board at gospel
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coalition nor would we want it we don't pastor large churches ad and john actually don't pastor
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at all but i don't pastor a large church we're prophets but you also need kings
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right and and the prayer is not just for common grace kings for lack of a better phrase right
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Like King Cyrus, King Cyrus is the one who funded the rebuilding of Jerusalem in the
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temple, but he wasn't necessarily a Christian himself.
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So he was willing to use his kingly power and position to fund righteous deeds, but
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it's doubtful that an unregenerate king like Cyrus, who in God's common grace was willing
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to fund righteousness, it's doubtful that he would punish wickedness. That takes, in most cases,
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a regenerate king, a Christian king, someone who is willing, who is led by the Spirit of God,
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submitted to the Word of God, convicted, and willing to listen to the Elijahs, the prophets,
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and then execute his Jehu kingly power to actually put down all the idols and all the
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priests and priestess in these false pagan deities like Jezebel. The last piece of the puzzle,
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you need prophets like Elijah, you need kings like Jehu, but you also need eunuchs.
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Jehu gives an order to the people. He doesn't climb up and grab Jezebel himself and cast her
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down. So you have Elijah who gives the word of the Lord, the prophet. You have Jehu the king
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who gives the order to the people. But then you have the people themselves that actually kill
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jezebel it's the people themselves until the people get it the people are the ones who have
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to say no more tolerating jezebel i'll just be real frank you will not get rid of beth moore
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until the people in the pews of the sbc say we've had enough
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so you need kings and institutions like al moeller to make a stand and you need prophets that they
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are prophets in the sbc but to actually be listened to but then you need eunuchs notice
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it's the people but a particular kind of people eunuchs what's unique about a eunuch as it relates
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to Jezebel. Jezebel is a seductress and eunuchs are invulnerable to her seduction.
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It has no power over them. They can't be bought. They can't be tempted. They can't be deceived.
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They can't be bribed. They can't be seduced. They can't be won over. They will not tolerate
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wickedness. And they're the ones in the final analysis that pick that woman Jezebel up and
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throw her down to the dogs on the ground. We need prophets like Elijah. We've got some,
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but oh, how we need kings like Jehu that'll listen to those prophets and partner with them.
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And you, listener, we need faithful Christians in the pews who can resist sinners like Jezebel
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because they themselves, in their own pursuit of holiness and sanctification, have not been
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harboring the sin of Jezebel in their own hearts. Meaning, it's not a coincidence that eunuchs
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throw Jezebel down from the window. You know who doesn't throw Jezebel down from the window?
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people in the SBC sitting in the pews that in secret have been using porn.
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Whatever sinner you see causing trouble for the people of God, Israel,
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you cannot effectively address it if that very same sin is harbored in your own heart,
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just to a lesser degree. Thanks so much for listening. But real quick, before you go,
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