THE FRIDAY SPECIAL - Faeries ļ½ The āElemental Spiritsā (Colossians 2_8)
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In this episode of Mythology and Mythology, we take a look at the preternatural beings that have been described as fairies, ghosts, spirits, spirits of the dead, and spirits of purgatory. Are they real? And if so, who are they really?
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King James VI, yes, that King James, the namesake for the King James Bible, wrote a small pamphlet
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in 1597 titled, Daemonology, wherein he tries to classify and systematize our understanding
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of all the fallen and unclean spirits that are creeping about in our world.
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But he includes something that might surprise you, a whole section dedicated to things called
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Up to his day, and for long after him, everyone had a category in their minds
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for a preternatural being that doesn't quite seem to fit with all of our other neat categories.
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A trickster, a helper, a malicious enemy, a benefactor, and noble spirit who lives in fairyland.
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Depending on when it was and where it was, everyone has figured fairies to be these things.
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But what are they really? Or are they really at all?
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I mean, what's the biblical, let's just start there.
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What are a couple of things that if you were saying,
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I'm building a biblical premise to allow for this category of fairies?
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The first thing I would say, no, I do think this is important.
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The asterisk is, well, let me give the answer, then the asterisk.
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The answer is that the Bible does not purport to contain an exhaustive knowledge of the
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And that's true for the spiritually created order and the physically created order.
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I'm not saying that God doesn't know, but it does not present to us an exhaustive list.
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Like there are animals that are real that are not mentioned in scripture.
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And it's because scripture isn't trying to do that.
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It's not giving us exhaustive knowledge of, you know, the, the math behind atomic fission or an
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entire list of every mammal or anything like that. So that's true. We know that, but the asterisk
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means that when we leave the pages of scripture and we go out into the world and we start doing
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our investigation and our natural theology and things, we are always going to be looking to
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avoid drawing conclusions that would be contrary to any known principle of scripture. In this area,
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that there are, and some of them aren't fallen.
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Like, did Jesus have to go die on that planet too?
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It would be God taking on the nature of that thing.
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The only thing that I could even conceive of would be,
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there are things that are far beyond our comprehension.
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in mythology. But it's this idea that they seem to see often around them, that the spirits of
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the deceased are still lingering, and they can't explain why. And that was one of the seeds of the
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eventual doctrine of purgatory. Okay, that's not a good way to respond. It's not a good way to do
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theology. No, that's not how you do natural theology. That's not how you do theology proper.
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but it wasn't inappropriate to notice something that was happening.
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And we address at length spirits lingering after death in our ghost episode.
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So the category here is similar in that we don't actually have
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a cut and dry chapter and verse where we can say,
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look, it mentions fairies or some preternatural thing,
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which preternatural is sort of in between.
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It's natural in some sense, but it's also very much supernatural.
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Right. But it, it sort of toes the line between both worlds and it's habsies.
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So you, you helped, yeah, you helped me. So we, we began to delve into the fairy category
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in the Bigfoot episode. And you, you mentioned something, Ben, that was really helpful for
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me to see it. Just thinking about angelic beings, because we talked about angelic beings in our
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angel episode. And so in the, in the angel episode, we talked about not all angels are the same,
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you know, and, and the word angel, you know, if we're talking about angels as, as just a big
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banner, you know, overarching category to encompass every kind of heavenly host, heavenly
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creature of, then it would be, you know, cherubim and seraphim and the four living creatures
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covered with eyes and six wings and Ezekiel's, you know, wheel conception with eyes within
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The 24 elders on thrones and the seven, you know, torches that contain the spirits of
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So that would be if we're using angel to mean every heavenly creature, but the word angel
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And so you could say there's angels and using that in the sense of heavenly creatures, but then there are angel angels and angel angels, meaning angels that are messengers.
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And those angels tend to look like us, but all this is still in the heavenly creature category.
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But what you introduced towards the end of the Bigfoot episode, as you started to tease the fairy topic, was, but how do we know that God has not also created angelic type beings, but apart from the heavenly location?
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That from the beginning, they actually had not just that they would come like messenger angels
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with momentary visitations to earth to bring a message, but that their proper abode,
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their natural habitat was earthly because God is a compassionate God who cares for his image-bearing
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creatures, man, but also as the Psalms say, have compassion on all he has made. And so
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an angel of a particular forest or river or this or that.
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We have heavenly-facing angels, man-facing angels,
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and then what if there's also spiritual beings that are nature-facing?
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It goes back to your disclaimer from the beginning.
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The reason that would be radical is because until yesterday,
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when we had our discussion on angels at the time of recording,
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every theologian has virtually just assumed or presupposed
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Exactly. So the reason that that would be a radical view to take, that an elemental spirit
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who serves God by overseeing some geographical area or geographical entity like a river or a
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forest on earth is because that would be preternatural. That would be a thing that
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directly toes the line. It's not a messenger to man who sometimes intervenes and who sometimes
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is visible and who sometimes... No, it would be a thing that is always in between the unseen and
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the seen. So that would be a relatively radical thing, especially for moderns to conceive of.
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But that's actually one of the four primary views of the fairy, is that all of them are
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preternatural somehow. But the first view that's put forth, by the way, by the medievals,
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and I'm paraphrasing Lewis in the discarded image when I'm saying all these,
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but the first view is that they are somehow a third species of rational being distinct from
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angels as we think of them and men assuming men are not pure spirit angels are pure spirit but
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there's some other thing in the spectrum between us and them that's a rational being before god
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that's responsible and for the record if you haven't listened to the angel episode definitely
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And then the second view is that they are angels,
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And it's because the medievals imagined it this way,
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is as the angels were being pushed from heaven,
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and they were kind of stuck in the middle,
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As part of their either purgatorial penance or...
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which is that they are simply a category of angels who fell.
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Like, give me fairies without giving me heresy.
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And by the way, I'm legally obligated to make the joke.
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when we say fairies we are not talking about elton john that you saw in concert right that's
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a different kind of fairy right that one we're talking about fairies that are useful and is
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sinful or is definitely fallen but they're active definitely fallen they're useful or or harmful
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similar category trickster right totally sinful don't trust them stay far away don't seek out
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their council yeah but you're describing elton john right now that is elton john i like a
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concept flamboyantly dressed yeah well no so here's the interesting within those four they
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like to dance in rivers well yeah within those four views of fairies you then have three you
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then have three classes okay of fairies okay all right and this comes from nature
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because people were witnessing these things so they claim and the three classes are the there's
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the really low tier fairies that are almost purely malicious.
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And they're the trickster, they're, you know,
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the Pukwudgie type figures, all these things.
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Then you have this middle class that's sort of like apathy.
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So this would be, the example that I've heard
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who is sort of a serpent, but also is genuinely a woman
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and who wants to seduce men to steal their purity.
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but the neutrality comes in, it's apathy, not neutrality.
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So if a woman, if a member of this class is attracted to a human,
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They're just like, ah, people could take them or leave them.
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Which is why a lot of the folklore contains the warning.
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And this is what I like to imagine Tolkien had in mind.
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actually couldn't be further yes so the high the high fairy is uh what i like to think tolkien had
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in mind when he was conceiving of the the high elves the eldar in middle earth because they
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There's just a problem with this view in general
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right if they if they can sin and do occasionally sin which like the high elves do yeah in tolkien's
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world or this neutral then they're either never they're not redeemable including that positive
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category right not redeemable unless god takes on their nature too right and you have an incarnate
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which we're of course that's just didn't no no no so that's one of my problems with this category
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of saying that it's this kind of thing instead of that it's actually either just a fallen this is
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why I like this. So I think that there's a way to have this category as a real category in nature
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and in the unseen nature as well. That's, that doesn't break any rules that we know are there,
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like what you're saying. And I think that the way to do that is to say, no, they were noticing
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something. I think that there is something there that doesn't seem to fit as nicely with,
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oh, it's just a demon. Right. Oh, it's clearly an angel. And I think that that category is a
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combination of view number one and view number four, which is it's not really a third species,
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a third intelligent species. I don't think that. But I do think that it's so different from our
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normal conception of an angel that we would think like, wow, that seems like a third species.
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So would you say that? And when I say, well, just real quick. So I think that it's a
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Categorically, you would put it in the category
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of angelic beings generally, as is colloquially common.
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I think that we would have worse rivers in the world.
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Well, what I'm saying is people are all fallen,
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So you might have an angelic being that's fallen
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that is just absolutely like the equivalent of Pol Pot.
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do you believe that there are those kinds of gradations
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We might perceive that as different gradations of malice,
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They all share that just like all men who are fallen
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And yet there's Mother Teresa and there's Pol Pot.
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But what we're saying is in terms of outward manifestations,
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possible thing all the time. Yeah, one guy murders and another guy steals a candy bar.
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Right. Level the heart in terms of rebellion, hostility towards God apart from salvation. Yes,
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equal. And frankly, some of that is just a grace of God in not giving them the tools
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that they would need to exercise the completeness of their depravity.
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And I'm like a man, so a man in a, like what we were talking about yesterday. If you have a guy
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who lives a mile away from his nearest neighbor and he has a wife and kids and he has a good job,
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He's not going to be as evil as the guy who's desperate.
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In the eyes of God, they both deserve damnation.
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What I'm saying is they both deserve damnation equally.
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It's all equal in its ability to eternally separate you
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hierarchy on earth, there's a hierarchy in hell.
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and the dude who helps old ladies cross the street,
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It's not just indifferent or neutral or apathetic, hostile.
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So they both are completely hostile towards God.
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give them an actual accurate depiction of Jesus,
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they would both respond and say, I hate that guy.
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Yeah, one guy, I hate Jesus and I'll help old ladies.
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The other, I hate Jesus and I'll kill people.
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And so, you know, if you're a preternatural
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Now, I also believe that not all of them are fallen, though.
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So there might be a class of what we colloquially call angelic being
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It's like, and this would be like, wow, this forest is quite pleasant.
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You know, and then some places are like, suicide forest in Japan.
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They've got that mountain of the dead, basically.
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And you have no reason other than the place that you're in
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It's not just because, oh, this is bad because it's a swamp.
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but like there have been like where it's like this is visibly pleasant uh and i don't want to
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be here inexplicable right this feels i feel like i'm in danger like existential dread something
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here wants to harm me right right and that see this is really interesting to me because you were
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saying you were saying that you want to and i think the reason you might want to do this is
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because there's so much evidence of eyewitness and people seeing this kind of thing interacting
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where you're not coming up with a third state of being,
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that ends up with all sorts of theological problems.
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You don't want to just say it's nothing at all.
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I mean, I think that the symbolism of scripture
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or preternatural intelligence placed there by God
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And its job is to join in the symphony of creation
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God is using the jarring notes to do something.
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it's important to see Tolkien and Lewis and everybody else who has riffed on this idea,
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they are riffing in on something that is biblical. They're riffing on something God actually did in
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the world, hence why they're good stories. It's because they're echoing the story God is actually
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telling in history. Judges 5.19 says that the stars fought against Cicera. Many, many examples.
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But it's also a song. And so you're supposed to think, wow, the stars fought against us. Job 38,
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When the sons of God sang with the stars of the dawn.
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I mean, it's just like, bam, that's a lot of stars.
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So like Psalm 19, the, you know, the sky pours forth speech and there's the setting of the sun
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and clouds and things like that. But when you think of like the Greeks, for instance, I mean,
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they're surrounded, everybody's a barbarian except for them, you know, and whether or not they had
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Moses, right? But, but another hypothesis is, you know, so maybe they actually had special revelation
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and not just natural revelation. God has two books, you know, like special and natural. But
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one argument is that God like actually was speaking more actively through the skies,
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especially astronomy and the stars leading up to the birth of Christ, where we have another
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star moving significant. And that it's not just like, we read that and it's like, but it's like,
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no, stars actually moved more than they do now. Like that was actually a thing. And then big
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movement, people knew. The Magi were paying attention. They were paying attention. They
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Exactly. And that they weren't necessarily regenerate. Maybe they were, maybe they weren't,
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but they knew how to read the book of natural revelation. And the book of natural revelation
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until, here's the whole point, until the completion of the book of special revelation
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in God's grace and kindness, the book of natural revelation spoke more clearly than it does now,
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because there's an expectation of God to believe his prophets, to believe the final word, which is
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his son in these last days. But long ago, he spoke to our fathers, you know, in many ways,
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many ways. But now he's spoken to us through his son. And so the same kind of argument that you
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would make for cessationism and saying like, well, I don't know if the gift of prophecy is,
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you know, continuing in the way that, you know, blah, blah, blah. Same thing like, and also
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stars used to dance and now they're a little bit more still. What do you think about that?
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I think that it makes sense. And I think that there's a really good reason for it.
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And I think that Jesus, well, yes, but also since the enlightenment, we've been in a 300 year
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decline where we have sought to muzzle the song of creation. You're right. Yeah. So our ears have
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grown hard like our hearts. You're right. Yes. But we've also tried to silence the sky. You're
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right. And so we've made a bunch of pollution that makes it harder to see. Yeah. Spiritual,
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moral pollution. And that fogged ourselves. And the point is that matters. Yeah. And that matters.
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saying that the book of nature speaks less clearly.
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It's not to say that nature doesn't still speak.
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I would just say that the distinction is that the greatest event in history, like you said,
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It reminds me of Caspian and Prince Caspian when they're talking about,
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when the centaurs are talking about the portents and things in the skies.
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And this is a very Disby view, kind of default Disby view that Lewis is putting forward.
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But he's saying that all of the worst portents have been in the sky
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that all of the biggest announcements were happening?
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but I think part of it like Jordan is trying to get at
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but just saying that because we have this conception
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that a lot of times we think God is only doing something
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under the old covenant, before the coming of Christ,
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he was only doing something with his covenant people, Israel.
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And the rest of the world was just damned.
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It's like, okay, but I mean, Nineveh, an entire city,
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arguably 120 to 500,000 people coming in one foul swoop.
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The men of Nineveh will rise up on the day of judgment.
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They're saved and all of them might want to hold onto that.
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Yeah, so that's like 500,000 people coming to faith.
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And then beyond that, and that's through special revelation
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But basically I think what's trying to be communicated
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with this view is just emphasizing the mercy of God.
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That even before the completion of special revelation,
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the scripture, and even before the covenantal change
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and grafting in of Gentiles and those kinds of things,
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The Bible doesn't contain everything that happened.
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Like there are parts of it that we'll learn eventually.
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in ancient South America that no one knew about but God.
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But to think that God's doing that through nature,
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but to think also that this preterate natural fairy
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but river daughters. No, it's a really compelling view to me. I think that when you look at nature
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with an honest eye, it's difficult not to see how even the most material of things like a rock on
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the side of the road is in the tapestry with spiritual things. Like a whole framework for me
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is what Bob Vink says. I mentioned it in one of the other episodes in his book, Christianity and
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science, that every single thing we see is pointing us towards something unseen. He's not just
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blowing smoke when he says that. He's being a Christian because every single thing that we
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engage in is engaged in the midst of an unseen realm and an eternity that matters. And so the
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stakes are high. And if the stakes are that high, then it would make sense that God, you know, in
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he loves to use servants to accomplish his will. I mean, we exist, for example. Angels exist. We
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know that. And so why would there not be some kind of preternatural category that is over
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geographic areas to ensure that God's decree is carried out and they're there because God just
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likes them? He likes to see people obeying him. He likes to see people delighting in how he delights
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in himself. We know that this is true. And so you can go, I think, too far with that. You can say
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like, well, the river started speaking to me and told me about Christ. I doubt it. No, but I doubt
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it. But, but there could, but there could very well be a sense in which when you're in a place
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and you feel an existential dread, or on the flip side, you feel some amount of peace that
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seems to be really nice and something that you really need. Maybe you should just pause and pay
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attention. All of creation. And there's a temptation for us to reduce this to purely
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anthropomorphic analogy. All of creation praises God. Read Psalm 148. The clouds, the fire, the
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hail, the snow, the cedar trees, the dragons, everything in creation is commanded to praise
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God. Wild winds that do his word. They not only praise God, but they accomplish his will.
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And again, many times it's attributing to them the ability to do that. And kind of the modern
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in me wants to reduce that down to just saying, well, it's, it's praising God by doing what it
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was supposed to do. Like it's when the wind is blowing and that's what it's supposed to do.
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There's no like knowledge in it or there's no nothing, you know, nothing like that.
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Doing the thing that you were created to be and do. And I think that's certainly true regardless,
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but this, what you're saying also allows for the possibility that here we have servants of God
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who are going and mediating his will and ensuring in the winds that the things actually do what
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We know that the stars are meant to praise the Lord
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that you gave up your God for Molech and his star, Rephin. And then Stephen repeats that in his
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sermon to the Sanhedrin in the book of Acts, chapter seven. There's a multiple. Yeah, there's
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but they all, they're referencing the same thing. And that's that Molech, this fallen God has a
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servant and one of his servants is a star. And so they're worshiping the celestial host. So some of
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them maybe are fallen, but certainly not most of them, or certainly not all of them, it would be
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of remnant. And so I think, yeah, a third. So I think that you can have the same thing here on
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earth where some of them maybe fell, some of them didn't. But it's really easy to draw that
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conclusion about the stars, at least conceptually, where you are meant to think that way.
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So system-wise, I can't help it, but like, so you have heavenly creatures and they're all
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creatures. God alone is the creator, heavenly creatures. And some of them are, you could call
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angels in a loose term, but there are angel angels, messenger angels, and anytime they're
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sighted, they look a lot like us. Gabriel, you know, they interact with us. Anytime they're
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sighted, you know, earthly visitations, but their abode is still heaven. Man facing God in terms of
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allegiance, but man facing in terms of duty and role and those kinds of things, ministering spirits
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to aid men, those who are to inherit salvation. So that's angel angels under this heavenly
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classification or a heavenly type of, of heavenly creature. And then there's also in, in that
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category, cherubim, seraphim, four living creatures, and this would be higher classes, higher, but not
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necessarily man facing, but very much God facing, holy, holy, holy, guarding the holiness of God,
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guarding, you know, all these different things. But then we're saying some of those that were
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heaven was their abode fell watchers and arguably others, but watchers fell. And then, so then you
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have that category of fallen heavenly angels. Then you have the category of their offspring
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with the daughters of men, Nephilim, who died, but now disembodied spirits. And often that's
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what we think of when we think of a demon. They can be sent into the pit, but are bound to the
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earth. Right. Bound to the earth for now. And so you have Nephilim disembodied spirits,
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God wiped them out, but whatever, and still roaming.
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some of them locked in gloomy dungeons who did the deed.
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Arguably some fallen watchers, angels, heavenly angels
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who did not do the deed of taking the daughters of men
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And so you have Nephilim disembodied spirits on earth,
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And then this last category of still angelic in the sense of it's not human beings.
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And we're saying, if anything, probably a minority fell, right?
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And if we're counting the stars, that a lot of these stars are not fallen.
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And they were created to specifically govern over the physical processes of God's creation.
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Yeah, create a cosmos to orchestrate it in its duty, its glory, to worship.
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back to our program a key distinction would be i do think 100 true i think that they are
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they've got it i mean confirmed full sense i think that they're heavenly beings thanks for tuning in
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I think they're just like the rest of the angelic hosts,
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But I think because of the role they've been given,
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We don't have the mind of God or the eyes of God.
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So I think that we're right to view them as preternatural,
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role, but they're taking on this role. Much like, I mean, much like the Ainu in Middle Earth.
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Yeah. Like that is, you know. It's a similar. It's fictional, but it's a good way to conceive
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of it where they have been given this role. And so they take on this role by also assuming some
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of the raiment of the world. Like the Maiar. Yeah. So I think that view, going back to your
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very first question, Joel, of this, okay, what can we say? What are the categories? Again,
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the biblical data doesn't tell us everything, doesn't purport to, and we're never going to
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say something contrary to, which is why we would rule out several of these beliefs that have
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existed. You saw me shaking my head. There's this one. I was like, oh, no to that. You can't do it
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because the scriptures close the door. This is one where work needs to be done. At least someone
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could make a biblical argument that this is ruled out and we would hear it. But to my knowledge now,
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it's not ruled out. Like this is something that's possible. It explains a lot of these
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sightings that people have or a lot of the folklore and tradition, just like we're saying
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the Nephilim and the Watchers in Genesis 6 explains a lot of history and mythology in the
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world, even with ancient through to modern. Demigods. Yeah. So this is another category like
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that where we're saying here's a way of understanding the history of mythology of
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the world through a category that is biblically possible. And we're not going to come down and
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say, you know, bind someone's conscience and say like, we're going to add this. This is now going
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to be a chapter in the systematic theology on the level of theology proper. It's like, absolutely
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not. This is glory of kings to search things out. What we're trying to do is we're making exactly
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what you said, making sense of the world, making sense of narratives that you found in cultures
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all over the planet before they even had supposedly interaction with one another.
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and instead of doing the typical materialistic,
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secular, humanistic, Darwinian, arrogant thing
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and we're the first generation of human beings
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Although if I had to choose hard press between the two,
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But what we're trying to do is say no to modernism
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there's probably something true there in Greek mythology,
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but probably shouldn't trust the Greeks 100%.
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we also find in scripture, oh, we found, okay, this is legit. This is probably true.
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But you can believe in this and it could be right.
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It's a way to attempt to walk along, walk in the pasture that orthodoxy fences in.
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You know, walk in the pasture of your confession is what I like to tell people. So the confession
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You don't try to ruin the fence. You don't try to go beyond it.
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you love the fence when you reach it. But within the fence, there's a rich, fertile field that you
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can walk around and explore in. And I think that because we've, for hundreds of years now, let this
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whole category go, that it's actually really rich. And so I'm just saying, let's just go graze over
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there and see what there is. And you find that there's many ways to reconcile this idea that
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the ancients had with scripture in such a way that you don't break any of the rules. But then also in
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a way that seems to tie in really nicely with the whole tenor of creation. Yeah. Right. That
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everything has its purpose and its place and its part to play. And not only that, but it's governed.
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It's governed. It's all governed. It's not, and it's not just governed in a floaty way of, well,
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God decreed it. It's not governed directly by God as the direct authority overall. God appoints
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governors. Like I, I am doing things that I'm doing because God decreed it, but I'm also doing
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things that I'm doing because I'm a man who's governed. I'm governed by my parents. I'm governed
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by my boss. I govern my kids, but they're still doing everything God decreed. So this is just
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trying to work out a way to fit in everything to the natural tenor of creation while also not
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completely discrediting most of human history as nonsense. I think a great way to end this episode,
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Joel, if I could be so bold, would be just with a story of one of these type of fairy
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incidents that will because we haven't actually talked a lot about these that's true let's end
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it like that here's another great way to end this episode uh encouraging the listener to join on
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patreon you can watch some of the bonus episodes you can watch the other because everything we're
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talking about you got to watch the angel episode as we're talking there's a lot in the angel episode
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and the bigfoot episode gives you a precursor to fairies yeah um but you definitely need to because
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we covered some of the angel stuff but not in the depth and there's some missing pieces that are
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vital uh that we did in the particular angel episode so you got to check out that and one
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more that i might i might uh so humbly suggest mermaids oh yes because we're talking about some
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of these these missing cat mermaids actually answers some questions and brings up some
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fascinating new ones and i know that one sounds weird but within the christian framework and
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like there might be something there it's definitely worth checking out yeah i i do i'm fascinated by
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mermaids. Joel loves mermaids. Yep. So all that being said, and then lastly, so join us on Patreon.
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We'll have a full episode on fairies in this season.
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We've dealt with ghosts, Bigfoot, demon, you know,
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Yeah. And it's, it's really, really tremendously well done. Ben, Ben does the heavy lifting on
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the Dusty Tome and I think everybody would enjoy it. If you enjoy this conversation,
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you know, you definitely enjoy those. Okay. Fairy time. Fairy story. So, so this is a story that
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comes from a region where you get lots of these kinds of stories, which is among the native North
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Americans in Delaware, Massachusetts kind of region. I think it's the Wampanoag is the name
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of the tribe. And I might be pronouncing that wrong, but they have a conception of like a two
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to three foot tall sort of trickster entity called the Pukwudgie. And they believe in this for
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centuries before oral tradition, many stories of this being that would attempt to lure you into
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the woods or trick you into coming into their domain and sometimes doing you harm. Okay. So
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So there's this story that's in the background. And then there was a gentleman who in modern
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times, not that long ago, he was in this area of the United States and got a job where like
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many of us in our youth, he was working swing shifts, that three to 11, three to midnight
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kind of shift. And so he would get off of his job very late at night. And that was kind of when he
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was, he's going to go do all the things we'd normally do at 6 PM or in the morning. He's
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walking his dog. He's going on a run, whatever he's doing. So one night he'd taken his dog out
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for a walk at close, you know, right around midnight. And he's walking along a path, you know,
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just kind of a foresty area around this mixture between urban, suburban, and foresty. And all of
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a sudden he, and I can't remember the exact order, but it's something like he feels a sense of dread.
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Like there's something wrong. He starts to hear noises and then even voices in the woods.
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I want to, I want to, and he's like, no idea what this is.
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Of course, freaked out, leaves, you know, and he just can't stop thinking of, of course,
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And he finally, he, he's like, what was it saying?
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And he's not certain, but as the story goes, his conclusion that what it was saying is,
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we want you, we want you, trying to get him to go into the woods.
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But this is exactly the type of thing we're talking about
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Trickster entity and this, you know, changelings,
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the meeling, there's so many of these types of stories
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But we're about to record another episode for another week,
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