The NXR Podcast - THE FRIDAY SPECIAL - Slay The Dragon, Rescue The Girl, & Keep Your Kids

00:00:00.000 It is simply not enough to keep your kids from watching movies or having access to the internet

00:00:04.080 when they are in your home. No matter what you do, the magical dark liturgy that runs 24-7 will

00:00:10.080 still be out there. But teaching your children to hate it is far more important than keeping it

00:00:14.840 hidden away from them. They should learn specifically why they ought to despise everything

00:00:19.060 from Trash World, and you must raise them among others who understand the same. The network of

00:00:25.020 friends and family you interact with regularly is the soil your children are growing up in.

00:00:30.000 If they are alone and isolated, if the only friends they have are entranced with Trash World, no matter how much effort you expend homeschooling and keeping evil things from their eyes, they will be vulnerable.

00:00:42.240 More than anything, you and your wife and your children need friends who love what you love and hate what you hate.

00:00:53.100 The way that you write, Andrew, I think is helpful.

00:00:55.800 Oh, thank you.

00:00:56.660 straight to the point you know it gets i think it's good but it's entertaining like i said in

00:01:01.220 the beginning it's my kind of book you know it's it's something that is uh accessible to just about

00:01:06.220 anybody uh it's understandable by just about anybody and um honestly i i believe you know

00:01:13.380 there's different people need different styles but i believe that that to confront trash world

00:01:17.640 you need to be kind of shocked yeah into it a little bit you need to jump right into the ice

00:01:22.140 water and just get that shock to your system yeah because it's almost like resetting yourself a

00:01:26.600 little bit, because this has been the air we've breathed since we went to kindergarten. I know

00:01:33.560 probably some of you guys can remember early on in your education, things that you were taught

00:01:39.240 or told or you saw in the movies that they're evil, and you didn't know it. And so you went

00:01:47.160 years and years getting the same doctrine, and it was evil doctrine, but you thought it was good.

00:01:51.960 Right. And so you need to be slapped in the face, metaphorically speaking, of course. 0.98

00:01:55.780 maybe maybe maybe maybe literally too yeah yeah no that's good um brotherhood that's kind of the 0.94

00:02:04.280 big thing that we're going to be discussing in this chapter but really you know this is kind of

00:02:08.620 this is our our our final conclusion to this series that we're doing and we're going to hit

00:02:15.060 you know in this episode we want to try to hit uh multiple different themes all together but uh

00:02:19.660 but we want to talk about brotherhood we've already talked about worship and so for those

00:02:24.240 who are just tuning in you can go back and check out uh that episode but the whole idea is you know

00:02:28.460 the first half of andrew's book deals with here's donner's oak here's trash world here's the idol

00:02:33.920 let's chop it down uh but the second half is dealing with okay but what do we build in this

00:02:38.300 place we want to actually do something yeah what you know w's in the chat you know white pills for

00:02:42.780 everyone you know so like so what you know what can we actually do so part two is transforming

00:02:47.040 the felled trees of trash world into new chrysidom and for those who again are just maybe tuning in

00:02:52.320 on this last episode uh what we did is we talked about masculine economics we talked about how

00:02:57.260 the last generation the boomers how they can help us that times are harder for us they had seven

00:03:03.340 years of planning we have seven years of famine that doesn't mean that they didn't work hard they

00:03:06.960 worked extremely hard but their work produced more yep uh than than hard work does today but

00:03:11.880 they can help by passing down generational wealth to their righteous their righteous posterity and

00:03:18.080 absolutely writing out of their will. Any kids that have apostatized, that is the biblical model 0.62

00:03:24.320 who don't love the Lord. So that's one way that we win. We win by being multi-generational, 0.98

00:03:30.100 the family unit working together, generational wealth. We also win by worship. We said that

00:03:35.300 was the big idea, the tip of the spear. We need to make liturgy great again. That was one of the

00:03:40.520 things that we talked about, like understanding that we're rooted in tradition. When none of us

00:03:44.580 are doing life in a vacuum. None of us are doing theology in a vacuum. We're all product of place

00:03:50.000 and time. And in the marvelous mercy of God, our place and time is pretty good in the sense that

00:03:56.480 we're coming on, you know, seated on top of 1,500 years of Christendom and like incredible

00:04:03.440 confessions and liturgies and theology and a lot of heavy lifting that's already been done for us.

00:04:09.180 we just have to dust it off and actually, you know, read it, understand it, and seek to apply

00:04:14.940 it. Like we have Protestant political theology. Yeah. If we would just use it instead of saying,

00:04:20.020 oh, these guys were monsters, you know, and, you know, like, so, you know, so, but instead what we

00:04:24.720 do is, you know, we build the tombs, you know, for the prophets and, and we talk about how we would,

00:04:29.500 you know, we love Calvin and we love Luther and we love Knox. But if anybody who actually reads

00:04:35.000 them really reads them and says, hey, maybe they had some pretty good ideas that might help with

00:04:39.060 our current situation you know that person is anathematized you're bad you're bad yeah so all

00:04:45.600 that being said tradition is good so we you know we talked about uh generational you know the

00:04:50.020 generations working together worship being the tip of the spear uh worship being warfare and

00:04:54.500 within that worship conversation we talked about tradition that we have a worship protestant

00:04:59.480 worship tradition it's a good thing we shouldn't throw it away well to for this you know the goal

00:05:04.820 would be kind of wrapping up here at the very end brotherhood uh made for war these are the last

00:05:11.460 few chapters of his book but brotherhood made for war a new eve and the paideia of christendom so

00:05:17.340 we're going to be talking about mainly that cold open comes from your brotherhood chapter yeah but

00:05:21.540 talking about brotherhood flesh and blood we've already talked about this um talking about that

00:05:25.760 but then putting in some of the pieces of rescuing eve the paideia christian education for our kids

00:05:32.260 all that kind of stuff yeah you start with brotherhood i think because that makes all

00:05:36.780 the rest of it easier yeah right you know you can't do this alone no matter how good you think

00:05:40.700 you do alone right you actually don't do that well alone i mean god says god says as much right

00:05:45.600 you know in in the garden you know it's not just about eve it's it's about humanity in general

00:05:49.660 that's right yeah yeah exactly there's there's an application for everyone it was not good that for

00:05:53.700 him to be alone right um and so um that's where you start only thing in creation not good yeah

00:05:58.980 And part of the reason it's not good to be alone, going back to the episode right before this, is because God has made us differently.

00:06:09.280 We don't live in a world of androgyny where everybody's the same. 0.98

00:06:12.500 Division of labor is a good thing.

00:06:14.880 Division of labor is not like this.

00:06:16.740 And so it's kind of funny. 0.81

00:06:17.680 It's like people, you know, so some people are disenchanted with trash world. 0.79

00:06:21.700 Some people call it clown world, whatever, you know.

00:06:23.900 and a lot of us have, you know, woken up and especially the past three years since 2020 and

00:06:29.160 COVID and we're like, this is bad. And it's funny how like a lot of people's natural reactions with

00:06:35.720 like, well, I got to do something. And so it's like, I'm going to learn how to make shoes and

00:06:40.380 homestead and grow food. And, you know, and like, and it's like, which is great. That's, that's

00:06:45.660 great. But like, if I could just be honest, all right, behind every, behind every homesteading

00:06:53.020 woman on instagram is a man who works in software yes right so like first let's just start there

00:06:58.100 like like let's just be honest like i like these guys yeah um i like them oh they're great i know

00:07:03.340 many groves yeah i'll just say he's a great guy and i think he's got some good the durable trades

00:07:08.100 i've read the book i've had him on on my podcast before um but he will tell you like that um that

00:07:13.720 he was able to do all of it because he made a lot of money in software yeah i've got men in my church

00:07:17.360 who have 40 acres and they have you know they have cows and they have this and all that's kind of

00:07:21.800 stuff and chickens one of the guys in my church he has you know uh about 1500 chickens their own

00:07:26.400 chicken business and it's great it's teaching the kids hard work it's teaching them economics

00:07:30.120 um and and everything's paid for in software the chickens uh breaks even he said they barely even

00:07:36.640 make a profit yeah it's the reward for the work that they've done and and there's and and that's

00:07:40.840 how they you we should look at it it's not like oh it's it's a it's fake it's a lark it's not real

00:07:46.000 So no, it's instead of, you know, buying the vacation home and, or having, you know, the big, you know, huge 401k and things like that, they probably have, you know, savings and things like that too.

00:07:58.100 But this is the reward for all the hard work they've done in a different domain.

00:08:01.940 Right.

00:08:02.340 Uh-huh.

00:08:02.600 Right.

00:08:02.860 But that's different.

00:08:03.520 The homesteading being the reward for hard work is very different than saying homesteading will be the work that will sustain you.

00:08:10.220 Yeah.

00:08:10.740 That's just not true.

00:08:12.260 Yeah.

00:08:12.560 It's just not true.

00:08:13.200 We're not going back.

00:08:13.880 That's not going to happen.

00:08:14.520 that might happen in a but if we get to there it's it's gonna be like most of us will be dead

00:08:18.940 by the time we get that's a post-apocalyptic the whole world is almost ended what will happen is

00:08:24.040 like you and your you know 10 sons if you have that many right are not going to be able to defend

00:08:28.760 your homestead with your ars against the hordes of people that are going to come exactly like if

00:08:33.200 it gets i i tell guys that all the time i said well if it gets bad you know i've got a garden

00:08:37.180 and i say i okay i appreciate and if you want to do that just because again you're teaching i think

00:08:41.800 the discipleship is valuable and i think that just literally literally having your hands in the dirt

00:08:47.080 is good for the soul i think it's just it's just good so like so i i'm all about that for spiritual

00:08:52.380 formation uh you know just uh just being a good godly person teaching your children something you

00:08:58.280 know not having everything outsourced that there's actually yard work there are chores to be done

00:09:02.640 around the house and all that's awesome you grew and raised is like good for the soul too yeah

00:09:08.340 that's true that's actually good for the body yeah and yeah in every sense yeah right um so

00:09:13.860 that's great but what i was going to say is like with all that if we're but the person who's

00:09:17.980 thinking because a lot of people they're thinking fear-based it was it's it's not like uh this is

00:09:22.040 just a good habit yeah this is where my ancestors come from and we need to be connected to our

00:09:27.900 heritage and remember these things and teaching praise god all that's great but a lot of people

00:09:32.400 it's a yeah it's a mad max kind of thing it's like this is how we're going to make it when

00:09:35.320 everyone else dies. It's like, if things get that bad, you think they're not coming for your garden?

00:09:39.820 Yeah, they're coming to you.

00:09:40.280 You would be better off with your MREs that are in a locked up container inside your house where

00:09:50.340 they can't get in than your garden that's outside where they can just walk. So anyway, so do it as

00:09:55.980 a spiritual formation, teaching your kids, discipleship, hard work, economics, all that

00:09:59.720 kind of stuff. But this is not going to replace your day job. I was talking to Michael Foster

00:10:05.120 about this and you know he they got like a small farm and he was like uh he's like you know why

00:10:09.820 nobody uh you know everybody's excited about homesteading now that everybody's going to be

00:10:14.440 over it in five years but he said uh he said everybody's excited about it right now he said 0.96

00:10:19.080 but you know by when nobody was doing this he's like nobody was doing it because it sucks it's a

00:10:23.860 lot of work he's like it's terrible yeah he's like farming is really hard yeah like really hard there's

00:10:29.080 a lot of poop you gotta do yeah he's like it's really really hard and so anyways all that being

00:10:33.540 said my point is my point is back to the brotherhood division of labor is that this is one

00:10:39.840 of the blessings of i think that like post-millennialism and christendom you know and

00:10:45.120 christ's kingdom expanding is that we've realized like this is this is first corinthians chapter 12

00:10:50.840 different parts of the body eyes and ears and like it just applied to to a different realm of

00:10:55.840 human life but uh it is a a gift and a blessing um that that i don't have to do everything there

00:11:03.160 was a time not that long ago where uh one family they had to make their own shoes they had to sew

00:11:08.760 their own clothes they had to grow their own food that like every single basic need had to be met

00:11:14.840 by that family nothing was outsourced no division of labor whatsoever and so as that applies to a

00:11:20.240 brotherhood so not just one family right so it's not just the uh guerrilla warfare but but you

00:11:25.620 actually have organized platoons and not just i've got all my brotherhood virtually on the internet

00:11:31.280 but we actually live in the same locale we're part of the same church community we're being

00:11:36.600 shaped by the same liturgy the same text the same worship lord's day in and out part of the beauty

00:11:43.140 of that is we're also going to have different giftings that helps with a parallel you know

00:11:47.320 christian economy it also helps with the education of our children yeah we're not none of us is ever

00:11:52.980 going to say anything negative about homeschooling yeah homeschooling is yeah praise god like uh you

00:11:58.100 know it's wonderful but one thing that i think is cool about christian schools there's a lot of

00:12:03.440 cool things a few but but one thing is uh within you know christian classical or even if it's not

00:12:09.100 classical the christian school mentality is that um i remember here i think it was actually lexi

00:12:14.700 brian suve's wife talking about this on bright hearth but she said um she's like you know at

00:12:20.260 first i was like you know but it's fathers it's you know fathers train up your your children you

00:12:24.560 know and like education falls on father and and i get that that's true she was like but brian brian's

00:12:30.240 not doing it like yeah he's involved but he outsourced to me because he has to go out of

00:12:34.960 the home to work to provide and then she was like and then even with me i order books it's curriculum

00:12:40.160 i didn't i'm not writing the curriculum yeah like and she was like and then even when we do uh when

00:12:44.840 i cook for the family like fathers have they have this uh obligation to provide the education for

00:12:49.840 their children but also to provide food um but but we're willing for uh to outsource that to take

00:12:55.160 our money and and buy the food from the farmer who sold it to the great we we are constantly doing

00:13:00.480 that so to say that you must homeschool so homeschooling is great but to go so far to say

00:13:05.420 you must homeschool it's mandated yeah i think that's silly and and what happens when you begin

00:13:10.540 to outsource things is uh you get some of the best things you get the best uh food the best

00:13:16.420 produce the best shoes if i was making my own shoes they'd be rough yeah you know and likewise

00:13:21.900 with education this is not to say that parents aren't uniquely equipped by god to educate their

00:13:27.200 own children i know they can do it i believe they can do it but it is to say that those parents are

00:13:32.580 ultimately going to oversee the education of their children they're going to be involved in many ways

00:13:36.860 but then you're pulling from all the parents in your church community and you know what a couple

00:13:42.140 them no trigger trigonometry and i can't even pronounce the word yes so it just it might be

00:13:48.080 nice for my my children to cross pollinate a little bit with that dad and that mom as well as

00:13:54.580 of course their dad and mom so the brotherhood i mean it plays into everything it plays into the

00:13:58.920 paideia plays into the school education of children it plays into work parallel christian

00:14:03.740 economy all these different things and it's also i just felt like it was a great opportunity to say

00:14:07.780 something negative about homesteading there you go all right i'm just gonna say it this show is

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00:15:17.200 don't waste any more time binge watch the whole season today well i mean i i can speak positively

00:15:23.420 of homesteading a little bit um because i mean yeah all we have is a garden my wife is like oh

00:15:29.580 i'd love to have chickens and i'm like yeah you say that now you say that now but uh yeah we'd

00:15:34.780 love to have land and have um be able to produce things and i think some of the the homesteading

00:15:39.620 idea and and pursuing that and and really that becoming a almost a meme that a lot of people

00:15:45.140 you know in our world do uh isn't bad because you look at i mean the example that i like to use

00:15:51.060 isn't the like the mad max you know scenario where total societal breakdown which i don't

00:15:56.200 think is actually going to necessarily happen yeah um it what it things will look like if there's a

00:16:02.240 collapse scenario is right the soviet union when it collapsed um it wasn't like just complete total

00:16:09.300 societal breakdown although there were aspects of that for sure um but like russia regular russians

00:16:16.320 would have there would have been massive famine in the 90s if it wasn't part of their life

00:16:20.560 partly because of the soviet union uh uh where they all had gardens that were were productive

00:16:27.400 because they didn't trust if the government was going to feed them right so they kept gardens

00:16:31.760 many of them illegally um and kept the food that they produced and that that supplemented the the

00:16:37.080 food that the government gave them and um if they didn't have that there would have been massive

00:16:42.780 famine and millions of people would have starved to death in Russia after the collapse of the

00:16:46.880 Soviet Union. So to that end, like with homesteading, it's like we could be in a scenario

00:16:52.560 like that. And yeah, if you're growing tomatoes and potatoes in your backyard, that you're getting

00:16:58.340 calories out of your backyard, like that's good. Like you should have that supplementary thing,

00:17:02.320 but don't like think of it as, all right, it's going to be Mad Max and I'm going to be fending

00:17:06.640 off you know uh all these hordes of people with my rifle and uh and then but also tilling the soil

00:17:14.640 and weeding it all day and taking care of chickens and no and it's like no like if if it gets to

00:17:19.620 something like that you'll be dead um partly because you don't have people and that's that

00:17:23.580 leads back to the point on brotherhood is um what we need more than anything else is just is people

00:17:30.120 is numbers right and not in this like uh slimy marketing centric uh big eva megachurch sort of

00:17:37.320 way where it's like oh if we just market really well we'll get a thousand people and uh but those

00:17:42.420 aren't your people right they they're not aligned with the same vision they're a thousand atoms

00:17:46.360 yeah exactly the people who who picked picked up the phone and called you know governor gavin

00:17:51.620 newsom when i wasn't wearing a mask yeah yeah you know those those are not your people those

00:17:56.600 people are against you yeah so you want you want lots of people that are your people right and to

00:18:02.200 have many of them and gathered together um so then if you have a homesteading situation and there's

00:18:07.640 a collapse well now now you have like a company or a battalion strength that could fend off the

00:18:13.120 hordes right i mean this is the thing like in where i'm in minnesota i remember sitting and

00:18:17.400 watching uh you know the floyd uh uh riot happened in minneapolis like 90 miles away

00:18:24.100 and i'm sitting with like former military guys and they're watching this and they're like no

00:18:28.300 these these guys are moving in like coordinated formations like this is this is like watching

00:18:32.440 military operation and they're that immediately they start thinking like and they're like what

00:18:37.120 if they just like grabbed rifles and they just came down here what would we do right what would

00:18:42.760 we do in a scenario like that where the governor's not the government's not protecting you you know

00:18:46.980 yeah who are you calling what what you're calling kyle rittenhouse you know like like what what would

00:18:51.620 we do in a scenario like this? They could come rampage and, and, and just destroy everything

00:18:55.340 here. And what would we do as the people of this community? Um, and, and that's a question I think

00:19:01.160 a lot of communities should ask is if there is chaos and, and widespread violence, things like

00:19:06.820 that, which I don't think is like around the corner or anything like that, but, but just to

00:19:10.840 have in the back of your head, like, what would you do? Who would you call? Um, who would you call

00:19:14.100 to like protect your house and your family from, from, you know, masses of people that are willing

00:19:19.560 to to harm you uh i mean and like you look at history you look at the history this is something

00:19:24.740 that i think people uh should read like they should read um if they make any book recommendation

00:19:30.300 you know besides my own you know buy my book uh it's uh the memoirs of of uh peter wrangle uh the

00:19:36.980 the general that led the white army um it is really good during the bolshevik revolution

00:19:41.320 because you see what happens when everything collapses and they're just hordes of violent 0.77

00:19:46.080 criminal people that are ransacking everything um like they went and they they just murdered

00:19:50.840 kulaks and stole all their stuff and what happens if there's a situation even somewhat analogous to

00:19:57.360 that here right what what will we do what where will you go and and the thing is you need to have 0.55

00:20:02.700 people that get it now and are on your side and and willing to stand up and defend right you you

00:20:10.040 need that and and i'm not saying like all right go form militias and and invite the the feds to

00:20:15.340 and trap you and put you in prison i'm not saying that right don't do that but but even have like

00:20:19.740 loose organizations and associations of men that are are committed to the same views and goals like

00:20:25.400 have having things like that locally right people that you know and you trust and that love the same

00:20:30.340 things you do they love their country love america they love jesus yeah it's not an organized

00:20:34.200 militia or anything like that do not do that right what you're what you're talking about though is

00:20:38.140 just friends yeah it's just having friends who are um who have the same values that you have

00:20:44.540 and also a gun yeah yeah yeah and and and love yeah love your actual flesh and blood community

00:20:52.160 that you're a part of and the people there um and don't want to see it come to harm right right

00:20:56.600 that's that's what you need and and you you if you don't know these people in your community like

00:21:01.280 you need to develop roots in a place that you're at right or if it's not a place that you can do

00:21:05.500 that you need to go somewhere where you can have that and and begin to have lots of friends right

00:21:10.560 and and they don't necessarily need to be like your best buddies that you talk to every day

00:21:13.500 but they need to be people like you see at the grocery store you say hi hey how are you how you

00:21:17.320 you know like people that you you know a little bit more than acquaintances but people that that

00:21:22.800 you know that are on the same page with you that are nearby and a lot of people don't have that

00:21:28.540 and like we've talked about numerous times already everything is set up for you not to

00:21:33.420 have people that you're aware of that think like you do um but you can you can create that you can

00:21:39.220 strive toward having that and it's imperative that that we do that now and you might need to

00:21:44.180 move to that you know you might need to relocate to that you also need to cultivate that and but

00:21:49.040 with the relocation thing i you know even as the guy who wrote you know fight by flight i would

00:21:53.820 still say that um better better to be in a suburban you know area that's you know that's

00:22:00.740 semi-purple maybe even a little bit blue or whatever with uh with a church of 100 people

00:22:06.420 that think like you oh yeah then to uh to live in kansas but no one within a 50 mile radius yeah

00:22:13.740 absolutely you know like that and i think some people overreacted uh with with the last three

00:22:19.020 years of covid and blm you know and all these kinds of things they're like man i need to like

00:22:23.440 i'm gonna you know i'm gonna homestead i'm gonna start a garden we're gonna get chickens we're

00:22:27.380 gonna and we're gonna get away from that i'm gonna buy a bunch of ammunition i'm gonna

00:22:30.620 to get some guns and i'm gonna get this and i'm gonna get that and say okay well you're in a red

00:22:34.560 red tiny town you know population 340 people you know in a red state and you've got 40 acres of

00:22:40.900 land you've got this you've got that but here's the one thing you don't have friends you know

00:22:44.820 people you know i hesitate to use this example because maybe we can cut it out if it's if it's 0.59

00:22:49.720 if it's too stupid but um don't bring up the avengers again one thing no no it's not the

00:22:55.940 avengers it's not the avengers but um but you know i i liked i was talking to you earlier about uh 0.98

00:23:02.400 i like to look into like the mafia and stuff like that oh yeah and stuff and you know of course

00:23:06.820 they're a criminal enterprise and you know they're degenerates we get that right but but where you

00:23:11.240 going with this but you know they they had these neighborhoods right and they would operate in

00:23:17.460 these neighborhoods and it was known that that that was their territory right that was their

00:23:22.600 neighborhood and you had to respect their neighborhood. And so you'd get scenes in a

00:23:26.460 movie or a show where some thugs come into the pizzeria and you're just causing a disturbance

00:23:31.620 or whatever. And, you know, they attack them and they're like, no, you're going to respect the

00:23:35.400 pizzeria. And it's like, it's like, I'm not saying you should be, you should form a mafia,

00:23:39.500 but they, they did have sort of a pride in their, in their community. You know, they didn't want

00:23:44.180 their community to be the victim of, well, at least those thugs, I guess. Yeah. But, um, but

00:23:49.700 But, you know, their own thuggery is a different question.

00:23:51.660 Right. That's why it's a stupid example, I think. But but but there was sort of a pride of the neighborhood. 1.00

00:23:56.260 Like that's our coffee shop. That's our pizzeria. You know, that's these are the places that we go and we're going to keep it clean.

00:24:01.520 We're going to keep it, you know, a certain level of respectability and you don't disrespect the neighborhood.

00:24:06.600 I'm not saying to form a mafia, but but but do you care if if if if your your community gets disrespected or looks like trash or gets tagged by the local, you know, thugs or things like that?

00:24:19.520 or is it just, this is just a place where I live and I really don't care what happens to it.

00:24:23.940 I just, I just, this is where I sleep. You know what I mean?

00:24:26.660 Is the place you live an economic zone that you are taking advantage of,

00:24:29.920 or is it an actual place?

00:24:31.020 Is it an actual place?

00:24:31.360 Are you talking about America?

00:24:32.460 Yeah, that's right.

00:24:33.320 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I am.

00:24:34.540 And this could be something as simple as, you know, when I go to the park with my kids,

00:24:38.860 you know, you know, and I see it's all trashed up, do I throw the trash in the trash can?

00:24:43.020 You know, you know, like that kind of stuff.

00:24:44.900 Like, or is this is just, like you said, an economic zone that I just happen to be at right now.

00:24:49.080 and then maybe tomorrow I won't be here.

00:24:52.300 There's got to be some sense.

00:24:53.660 I mean, even the mafia had some sense.

00:24:55.920 I mean, it was distorted, but some sense of community.

00:24:58.300 This is my town.

00:24:59.260 You know what I mean?

00:24:59.880 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:25:00.460 Yep, you're right.

00:25:01.260 That's a great point.

00:25:01.920 Well, and I think you should sort of form things like that.

00:25:05.580 I mean, not devoted to criminal enterprise, obviously,

00:25:08.520 but still, like, there's a certain, you know, civic pride

00:25:12.620 that you're trying to describe there.

00:25:16.500 And I think you're right that we should have things like that, where we take pride in the place that we're from and that we live and that our children are growing up in, the community that we're part of, if it's possible to.

00:25:27.420 I mean, some places, like if you're living in Portland, you can't really do that.

00:25:31.820 But even, you know, it's funny, like I spoke well of homesteading a second ago, and I'm going to the opposite direction and speak well of suburbs.

00:25:39.060 but suburbs are uh like literally designed to be anti-civil disorder anti-riot it's anti-riot

00:25:46.920 technology um like you look at how they're designed even driving around in like the austin

00:25:51.700 suburbs here you see them and it's like um the the gps the other day where it was taking us to

00:25:56.580 dinner and it's like it took us through a uh a suburban residential area and you could tell

00:26:01.380 right away like i'm not supposed to be here yeah i don't belong in this and like there's cul-de-sacs

00:26:06.680 everywhere and everything like and if you're not supposed to be there right um everybody knows

00:26:11.380 everyone right you're not from here you don't you don't get our cul-de-sac you know and and

00:26:15.220 they're they're organized and structured in that way where where masses of people that shouldn't

00:26:18.900 be there it's easy to like you know for like police to trap them in there and round right

00:26:23.700 and we make fun of it but like but the whole idea of an hoa you know yeah so like i mean there are 0.98

00:26:28.080 bad things you know about an hoa it's you know i'd like to think of it as like neighborhood

00:26:31.560 socialism but yeah that's right yeah but you know but there is that also that other sense of it's

00:26:36.400 like a bunch of people who care and sometimes it's like they care way too much but still it's

00:26:39.900 nice and they're like lording over people yeah but but it's it's like that that guy was the hall

00:26:43.680 monitor you know when he was finally i have some power yeah you know like uh your shrubs are too

00:26:49.440 tall even in my neighborhood it's funny like some of the guys you know and they're great guys but

00:26:53.260 like uh they it's like for no other purpose and we don't have like i live in a suburb it's not

00:26:58.060 like we have acres of land but they have the i forget what they're called but they it's like

00:27:02.460 basically a glorified golf cart it's better than a golf cart yeah you would get it like you see them

00:27:07.240 at the uh the bass and pro shops and so like they're driving you know that's what they do like

00:27:11.480 when on their time off when they're done with work you know it's a saturday the kids get in

00:27:15.580 mom gets in dad's you know like kind of i'm a big deal and he's driving through the suburbs and we're

00:27:20.820 going to the pool it's like you could have walked to the pool or taken your normal car but no no

00:27:24.780 we're driving this little gator you know thing and like yeah we have that in my town too that's

00:27:28.900 great that's in rural we're driving yeah we're driving the gator to the neighborhood pool you

00:27:33.160 know and uh and oh there's there's uh gerald he's the hoa president you know and he really cares

00:27:38.080 but here's the deal but here's the thing though uh they know who lives here yeah exactly if if

00:27:45.220 somebody they know the cars that belong on this street parallel park that car doesn't belong yeah

00:27:50.660 who is that right and if it was there for more than than a day you know even overnight and say

00:27:55.780 we're gonna ask a couple questions yeah that's kind of nice and yeah maybe you get bothered by

00:28:01.140 like the nosy neighbors and things like that but it's like at the same time like that's good yeah

00:28:06.060 you have people that care about the area right yeah yeah and and so no i think i think you know

00:28:10.320 living in a place like that it's just that so often these are vehicles of of atomization too

00:28:15.720 where the people pull into their driveway and you'd never talk to them that's true suburbs like

00:28:19.200 that. Um, so you have to like work really hard to overcome that mentality. And some people just

00:28:23.720 don't want to, they like the anonymity of it, but, um, but yeah, they, they exist as actual

00:28:28.560 neighborhoods too. And there's communities and there, there can be civic pride in these places

00:28:32.380 too. So like the suburbs are not like everyone loves to rag on them and say like, oh, the suburbs

00:28:37.320 are horrible. Like they're the reason we have all the freeways and the urban sprawl and all these

00:28:41.800 problems. And it's like, well, yeah, um, it is that way. Partly because over the last 50 or 60

00:28:47.200 years we allowed the cities to become just these uh dens of crime and decay i mean you look back

00:28:53.280 60 or 70 years ago of like videos or even pictures of of large cities and they're places where

00:29:00.660 families were and people just walked around and it was very very safe and very clean um

00:29:05.080 and and so it's like it's not like we just somehow forgot how to live in cities and now we have to

00:29:11.120 live in suburbs it's there are policy reasons why it was intentional yeah we let our cities go to

00:29:16.020 help yeah and so at someday you know when there's a you're gonna blame people because they don't

00:29:20.320 want to live there yeah yeah there's a you know there's a there'll be a reconquista right it'll

00:29:24.360 happen oh yeah absolutely where you know uh the the cities will be put to sword and fire right 0.78

00:29:29.700 and and and then resettled by by people who who want to live in the suburbs of the red cross 0.56

00:29:37.400 will go that's what we're doing we're just waiting to mount our attack yeah you know

00:29:43.120 because cities are important i mean everyone wants to think like on on the right especially

00:29:47.320 among christians that's like oh we just want to flee to safety flee to the suburbs or flee to the

00:29:51.100 rural area and it's like no i would i cities are important god cares about cities um a ton they're

00:29:57.620 they're central i mean i'm gonna sound like he's the god of the city yeah i'm gonna sound like tim

00:30:01.400 keller here you know and say oh for the city but it's like well his his was we'll just baptize the

00:30:07.940 this you know sodom right and call it good and and i'm like no i want i want my my city to be

00:30:15.140 like the new jerusalem and strive to be obviously you're not going to make it that way and make it

00:30:18.900 utopian but you can have stable well-ordered high trust societies in in a large metropolitan area

00:30:26.340 but it takes a lot of blood sweat and tears and time to create that doesn't happen out of nowhere

00:30:31.820 like those things again it's the cathedral that's been burned down or it's chesterton's fence that's

00:30:35.960 been ripped out and it takes a long time to put those things back together right easy to undo it

00:30:41.520 but hard to build it back yeah but worth worth the worth the attempt to do it yeah i mean imagine a

00:30:46.920 christian new york city yeah i mean that that would be a sight you know the classic well it is a sight

00:30:52.300 to behold you know the classic picture that they'll show is from like 19 maybe it's 1969 or

00:30:57.480 something like that but it's uh it's easter yeah yeah it's that evening yeah it's the three emperor

00:31:02.400 state building uh-huh and twin towers i think is that i can't remember which is the chrysler

00:31:07.340 building yeah one other building crosses lit up three crosses yeah and it's like it's like and

00:31:13.060 now we have not that long ago yeah now we have pride uh flags what's amazing it's it's even more

00:31:19.340 like but that was man yeah yeah manhattan we've got the pride stuff but then of course you know

00:31:24.700 when the jets play it's it's green and white and when the giants play you know is that they just

00:31:28.220 put all of the elements of trash world, that's what we project on the Empire State Building

00:31:33.800 now. Yeah, no doubt. And one day we'll retake them.

00:31:39.960 The danger of centralized power is often represented by the word king. As Americans,

00:31:45.860 we hate the word king. Civilian ownership of body armor is about helping people to have

00:31:52.540 increased power to resist tyrants and criminals. And so Armored Republic is

00:31:58.760 about helping you to preserve your God-given rights to the honor of the

00:32:02.480 Lord Jesus Christ because he is the King of Kings and he governs kings and he

00:32:06.940 will judge them. This is Armored Republic and in a republic there is no King but

00:32:13.780 Christ. We are free craftsmen and we are honored to be your Armorsmith choice.

00:32:22.540 yeah we want you know this episode to be like all white pills you know like yeah we're gonna win

00:32:37.400 and uh we're gonna make it and and we are i think i think we we are it's it's that it's gathering

00:32:43.360 people together who think like you do and are have become awake and it doesn't even have to

00:32:48.140 be the majority of people that's the other thing like i mean the classic example that everyone uses

00:32:52.060 is that like the american revolution was like what three to five percent of the population of

00:32:58.400 the colonies actually rebelled against king george the rest were either on the fence or even opposed

00:33:03.560 them and so you don't need 50 or 60 or 70 percent majorities in order to produce cultural change i 0.99

00:33:11.660 mean just look at the the negative cultural change that has occurred the sodomites right how many 1.00

00:33:16.020 homosexuals are there there's not that many you know but they're able to push and push 40 years 0.99

00:33:20.380 ago no no right now everybody the frogs are gay yeah everybody's gay but 40 years ago yeah like 0.99

00:33:26.340 you're talking less way less than three percent of the population and they effectively replaced 0.53

00:33:31.220 the american flag with the rainbow like that's quite an accomplishment in 40 years yeah in the

00:33:35.960 span of one generation yeah and all that was written out like you know manifestos and very

00:33:40.360 clear like i mean like this is the goal it was militant it was tactical and they and they executed

00:33:46.180 And so why can't Christians, you know, Christian nationalists, you know, with 3%?

00:33:52.300 This is the stage we're at right now, writing out and figuring out what it is we actually 0.64

00:33:56.400 want to do.

00:33:57.020 Step one.

00:33:57.740 That's why there's so much fighting right now.

00:33:59.400 Yeah.

00:33:59.720 Because that's the stage where we're not at the stage of actually, you know, doing this.

00:34:04.040 We're figuring out what we actually want to do.

00:34:05.960 Right.

00:34:06.180 You're right.

00:34:06.700 Then, yeah, you cast a vision, you figure out tangible goals that you want to accomplish,

00:34:11.480 and then you bring people on board.

00:34:13.640 And that's where the pushback is right now.

00:34:15.200 Like the 80s, you're absolutely right.

00:34:17.060 I'm glad you brought that up

00:34:17.800 because we're in the stage of not even doing it.

00:34:19.840 We're in the stage of just writing out our manifesto.

00:34:21.960 We're in the stage of writing out,

00:34:23.360 this is what we want to do.

00:34:24.820 And so when you think about it though,

00:34:26.020 like what is the biggest pushback

00:34:28.200 that like the three of us, you know,

00:34:29.620 and our comrades online,

00:34:31.300 like what's the thing that we get the most pushback for?

00:34:33.960 It's all the practical steps.

00:34:36.760 So it's like, hey, you know what?

00:34:38.160 How are you going to do this?

00:34:39.100 So yeah, okay, you're dreaming, you're LARPing.

00:34:41.260 It's like, okay, yeah, we are dreaming and we're praying,

00:34:43.800 but we're also asking that god would would help us we know we're not there but but we're working

00:34:48.260 towards it and we're trying to be practical uh so here are some things and like all of our posts

00:34:52.560 that's really what it is it's just okay so what can i do today oh okay so this week on twitter

00:34:56.780 what's the big thing like um well we discovered that maybe it's a good idea if guys work out

00:35:01.580 they're in shape like if we're not fat and sick yeah you know like so okay step one don't die 0.54

00:35:07.360 yeah like don't die the libs are killing themselves the libs will die let's try not 0.99

00:35:12.380 to die so like if all the libs live for 60 years you know because they they eat you know trash world 0.87

00:35:18.280 food that's right let's live for 80 years that's right yeah and have 20x years so let's work out 0.91

00:35:22.580 and then of course what is what is christianity's response to it you know no that's an idol that's

00:35:27.940 terrible like because they want to lose that and that's that's what this comes down to i think most

00:35:32.720 of the pushback that we get sadly from it's from christians it's not it's not from a bunch of

00:35:37.040 god-hating leftists it's from christians and the reason they push back is because if we actually

00:35:42.000 did win then it would discount the last 50 years of what they've been preaching everything they've

00:35:48.020 done because everything they've done because here's the thing if we could win then what that

00:35:52.760 essentially says is that not not that they lost because they definitely lost but that they lost

00:35:58.480 and that they didn't have to lose yeah they could have done so then it shows oh you weren't losing 0.99

00:36:02.780 because dispensational premillennialism was true yeah no you were losing because you're a loser 0.82

00:36:07.900 yeah you were losing sinfully yeah not right just like you intended to lose yeah this is a 0.99

00:36:13.540 self-fulfilling prophecy you shot yourself in the foot you made yourself and others lose oh my

00:36:20.200 goodness that's wicked and so if people saw that like i mean you lose your ministry you lose your

00:36:24.080 platform you lose your influence all these kind of things your donations dry up you know like a

00:36:28.260 lot of bad things happen so yeah of course you need the christian nationalists to shut up and

00:36:32.380 be wrong yeah and be wrong but all that back to ad's point because it's a good point is you know

00:36:36.680 w's in the chat this is our last episode what can we do practical takeaways and some of these they

00:36:41.280 seem so menial and so practical it almost you know and this is the pushback that we get you

00:36:45.840 you should have friends don't yeah exactly but that's what it is so it's have friends uh work

00:36:53.180 out uh don't die um you know like uh have children and teach them not to die get married uh have a

00:37:02.440 gun yeah um get married have children don't put them in public school own property and if you can

00:37:09.260 then buy a second property yeah build things try if you can't not everyone's going to own their

00:37:13.840 own business but if you can right do avail yourself to do like paul saying like if you're a

00:37:17.960 slave but you can gain your freedom great go do it so yeah start when in doubt if it's available

00:37:22.860 to you all things being equal own a business and don't just work and build someone else's wealth

00:37:26.840 if you're a boomer right uh then then help help out recognize generation build it yeah pass down 1.00

00:37:32.980 some generational wealth uh but but if if two of your kids are idiots and two of them are wise 0.99

00:37:38.020 um then then let the inheritance let the will reflect that by the way this is a good reason 0.99

00:37:43.040 why you shouldn't get angry with the people that are that are you know antagonistic towards us

00:37:47.160 because at the end of the day they are going to lose right because because at the end of the day

00:37:52.340 you know, you know, when we're getting stronger, when we're having healthy families and we're

00:37:56.380 having healthy businesses, when we're not dying, you know, all these things that we're talking

00:37:59.800 about here, even though the conditions in every direction are totally opposing you to accomplish

00:38:04.460 those things. Right. And you're still doing it. You're still doing it. And, and then, and then

00:38:08.560 again, you know, we're having also, we're having fun doing it. Yes. It is attractive. They are

00:38:13.920 a hundred percent right to, to, to feel that way that it's, it's attractive and they're worried

00:38:17.600 that it's attractive because it's evil, but it's actually is attractive. And so we're going to

00:38:21.460 anything fun must be evil yeah we're gonna get numbers too yeah you're right we're gonna get

00:38:25.240 numbers too that's a good point yeah the numbers will come yes right because people are attracted

00:38:29.720 to someone with a vision of winning and especially you know a particular kind of people that are

00:38:34.080 attracted to that males yeah men yeah like and especially young men i mean so it's like hey so

00:38:39.820 we're doing this here's some of our ideas yeah like and they're like yeah like i mean that's

00:38:43.900 who's you know like you look at the gospel coalition footage for their conference you know

00:38:47.380 it's all chicks all gals yeah it's all chicks and and some some men who are you know much older

00:38:52.440 right but then like you come to a right response conference you know and it's it's like it's all

00:38:58.020 dudes you go to fight laugh feast it's it's a bunch of young dudes yeah like even like you

00:39:02.540 know our youtube channel it's like i think it's 70 close to 78 percent uh male audience yeah and i

00:39:09.400 love that yeah you know because everybody else is like 98 percent my wife is the only one that 0.99

00:39:17.100 But everybody hates the men.

00:39:20.360 So I'm happy to be a guy who, you know, has a ministry that predominantly is being, you know, viewed by men.

00:39:27.000 And I think about this, you know, just in terms of like politics kind of parallels this.

00:39:32.160 And I remember back to like 2015 and 2016, and you would see, you know, like Trump rallies, right?

00:39:38.040 And who are the people in the crowd in Trump rallies?

00:39:40.120 A lot of it would be, you know, older boomers, of course.

00:39:42.960 But there were young men there.

00:39:44.660 And like getting young men, I was involved in GOP politics in college and intermittently throughout my life.

00:39:51.860 It never was young men at all.

00:39:54.780 They had no – because young men are busy, you know, building families and working and doing the things they do.

00:40:00.280 It's older people with time that get involved.

00:40:03.140 But here they are, like 20 and 30-year-old men filling, you know, by tens of thousands filling these crowds.

00:40:09.200 And what do they go to see?

00:40:10.680 They go to see a guy say, we're going to win so much.

00:40:13.320 you're gonna be sick and tired of how much we win sick and tired of it you know like that but you 0.85

00:40:19.420 hear that it's like that's the opposite of anything that the gop has said for decades it's like well

00:40:25.300 we keep losing here's how we can maybe lose a little bit slower and slow it down and this is

00:40:30.140 my plan right um and we're gonna lower your taxes a little right right that that was their vision

00:40:34.840 but here you have a guy that says we're gonna win we should win we should make our country was great

00:40:38.940 it's not great anymore we're gonna make it great again and it's like wow what a compelling

00:40:43.120 vision like and of course like he didn't accomplish it so don't people like people are going to watch

00:40:46.840 this like oh he's just shilling for like no he did accomplish it it didn't it didn't happen but

00:40:51.140 even just throwing the idea out there that yeah maybe possibly we should try to i don't know win

00:40:56.920 yeah um draws people in like yeah that's great let's try to win how about that and so it's the

00:41:02.820 same thing here where it where it's like no we should we should play to win a game because i

00:41:08.420 don't i mean joel you know a shoes uh sports you know in sports ball but uh but maybe maybe his

00:41:14.600 wife and her family could talk to you but uh but like you know he's masculine

00:41:19.660 but i'll talk to you know like if you've been on a sports team and it's and it's always been bad 0.99

00:41:32.500 and the coach is an idiot he doesn't know how to how to how to coach and you don't have very much 0.99

00:41:37.100 talent on the team and you just expect to lose like that is miserable yeah oh yeah to be on a 1.00

00:41:41.920 team and even if you're like you're a good player on the team but everybody else is terrible and

00:41:45.740 like you get up into the batter's box or you you you line up on the field and it's like you know

00:41:50.620 you're gonna lose before the first pitch or before the first snap or whatever like that's a horrible

00:41:55.760 position to be in and it's like even if you even if you personally have this like drive to win like

00:42:00.160 i'm gonna play as hard as i can and i'm gonna win every rep well you know you're still gonna lose

00:42:05.420 by 40 yeah right and it's just miserable for you even if you have it in you to want to win

00:42:10.200 uh but then when you're on a team or even if you're not good and so i can speak from experience

00:42:15.440 like when i'm on a team but i'm not the best player everybody else is pretty good and you

00:42:20.300 all want to win you have a good coach um and then when you do it it feels so good yeah and and you're

00:42:26.960 there's this camaraderie you have with other guys where you're striving for this goal and you

00:42:31.200 finally accomplish it and there's nothing in the world like it and and men want that yeah right 0.99

00:42:37.560 they want to be on a winning team right and of course you know the pietists will be like well 0.93

00:42:40.960 we are on the winning team we're on jesus team he he won the victory and he's gonna come back 0.74

00:42:45.040 and everything thousands of years in the future or maybe tomorrow but no for those guys it's

00:42:49.160 tomorrow yeah i'm not gonna have to do anything to accomplish that right right i i'm gonna lose

00:42:53.620 down here right and continue losing and and that's and and that's really winning what kind

00:42:58.700 vision is that? Like how many young men are like, come join our losing team. We're going to keep

00:43:03.260 losing until Jesus just snaps his fingers and wins it all for us. Nobody wants that. You can see why

00:43:08.480 very few young men are compelled by this vision at all. And of course it's like, you know, the

00:43:15.000 detractor would say, oh, well, this is just, you preach against pragmatism, but this is just a

00:43:20.460 pragmatic argument. Like you're saying winning for the sake of winning, but that's not what the

00:43:24.840 Bible teaches, and I'm like, I think it does. I think it does. God wants his people to have

00:43:30.640 victory, and he leads his people to victory. The word gospel, it means announcement of victory.

00:43:37.460 Announcement of victory. You would go preach the gospel, you're preaching the victory of Jesus

00:43:42.600 Christ. And you preach it in that vein, and if your announcement of Jesus Christ's victory is

00:43:49.880 you need to go lose, which doesn't mean that maybe you're going to be martyred, or maybe you

00:43:54.520 are going to suffer but that that is a victory of course but that martyrdom produces victory even

00:44:01.160 here on the earth that's right right that's how the early church viewed it it wasn't like

00:44:04.320 we lose down here so i'm going to go get torn apart by lions and that's good it's my blood is

00:44:10.400 going to be spilled and it's going to be poured out on the ground and it's going to bear you know

00:44:14.400 fruit of 60 or 100 fold right right that's that's that's what you know losing in that context how

00:44:21.280 it means winning not we just lose and we're going to lose some more and we're going to keep on

00:44:24.500 losing because losing is good for the church right right it's good it's good for the church to suffer

00:44:29.480 because then we're really pure right then we're pure and but you see like history and even in the 0.93

00:44:34.700 bible even in the new testament like the suffering that the church underwent there still were grifters

00:44:40.320 and charlatans yes even then right with a man's persecution with coliseums and lions and being

00:44:46.400 you know drawn and quartered and sawed into uh you also have uh the highest prevalence of heresy

00:44:52.040 ever like going you know so to say that like you can have suffering or you can have heresy

00:44:56.820 that's that's just a false dichotomy yeah you look today and it's like okay we the church is in in

00:45:02.000 the worst shape we've been in and we we're about to experience like real genuine persecution and

00:45:06.480 suffering and you still have russell moore's and david french's and jd greer's uh that doing the

00:45:11.920 things that they do and they're going to continue operating that way and that's just one group of

00:45:15.480 guys that's that's because we've we've gotten to the point uh where we don't even mention the

00:45:19.880 benny hens and the kenneth oh yeah anymore we don't even have to at that point so we've got

00:45:23.820 plenty you know plenty of of of heresy um and it's and it's not because of christendom uh you

00:45:30.740 can have heresy uh when you know when religion like you know uh bunyan would say and pilgrims

00:45:36.420 when religion is dressed in her glass slippers and her robes you know and applauded as she walks

00:45:40.820 down the street like when religion is adorned and praised you can have uh heresy and when religion

00:45:46.300 is in shambles you know and persecuted and hiding run on the run for a life you can have heresy

00:45:51.580 throughout the church age we've seen in both regards speaking of heresy and heretics i'm

00:45:56.720 going to say uh something a little bit spicy here but um you haven't done that and you guys you guys

00:46:01.720 can rein me back in i'm this is this i'm not even making a statement here i'm i'm just gonna um i'm

00:46:06.680 just going to raise the question you know here's the thing here's the thing just noticing when you

00:46:12.660 think about heretics one of the big themes throughout scripture is that they always

00:46:16.640 appeal to the women oh yeah the heretics uh when you look at like who who's uh funding their

00:46:22.120 ministry you know what i mean like who are the people in their pews you know what i mean who 0.61

00:46:25.840 are like who are the who's their following their following is predominantly i was just thinking

00:46:29.880 about earlier we were saying is 98 male 78 male you know um you know but but there's so many people

00:46:35.960 within you know big and medieval that would point to us and say you've you've gone off the rails you

00:46:40.160 guys are heretics you know like you're you know like yeah exactly post-millennialism this is

00:46:44.640 heresy you know whatever it is you know whatever they're saying you know like uh working out

00:46:49.320 heresy you know like uh uh owning a gun heresy you know so you know uh which none of that is

00:46:55.540 to be fair to medieval they'd say heresy like heresy like wolf like yeah i've been called wolf

00:46:59.740 like but i was explicitly with an e or not uh no no no no but i was told that like because i said

00:47:07.680 india you know somebody said you know one day india i pray that one day india would be christian

00:47:12.440 i retweeted and said uh you know jesus wills it and it will be done you know like and which is

00:47:16.920 just classic post-millennialism i'm just saying the nations belong to him it is god's will and

00:47:21.300 it's just a matter of time i'm not saying i'm gonna do it yeah and literally that was retweeted

00:47:24.940 by someone saying here it is the new name it and claim it prosperity gospel oh yeah that was

00:47:29.720 literally the tweet i was like whoa what number one i'm talking about the salvation of india

00:47:34.440 not a ferrari and number two i said he wills it that is christ not joel not me naming it and

00:47:40.360 claim it and he said he does and he said he did in his word i didn't have a personal vision

00:47:45.660 so anyways like here's the point though that guy and other guys like him i'm not going to call him 0.96

00:47:50.320 wolf like they're not heretics they're not they're just confused yeah they're dumb but they're not

00:47:54.620 heretics now that said though who follows them how do these guys have have like the i'm talking 0.93

00:48:00.180 about guys who have more twitter followers than i do and i literally will ask the question time

00:48:04.240 sometimes i'm like how like is this guy like a like uh is he like secretly related to john

00:48:09.180 mccarthur is this like a grandson you know how joe biden has the eighth grandchild you know that

00:48:13.400 he won't acknowledge like maybe this guy's the grandson of john mccarthur but he was just too 0.75

00:48:17.820 dumb that mccarthur doesn't want to publicly acknowledge that they're related you know and 0.57

00:48:21.080 So like, I'm looking at some of these guys and I'm thinking, and I'm thinking like, I'm 0.95

00:48:24.620 not being facetious, maybe that I'm like, there's gotta be a reason.

00:48:27.860 There's no way in, in, in real life that this guy could have a following.

00:48:33.040 Yeah.

00:48:33.300 I mean, it's just like everything he says is so unintelligent.

00:48:37.020 There's no way.

00:48:37.780 But then I look at the following and hear me, I'm not trying to be harsh here. 0.98

00:48:41.440 It's all older women. 0.99

00:48:43.060 That's right. 1.00

00:48:43.300 Yeah, that's right. 1.00

00:48:43.980 It's all older women. 1.00

00:48:44.940 That, that is the following. 0.97

00:48:45.900 And I'm sure that the apostle John, as he's writing, you know, first John, like Paul, I'm sure they felt this way about some of the heretics of their day.

00:48:54.460 They're like, you know, like you take weak-willed women and you lure them astray.

00:49:00.400 And, you know, and that's what Jesus says about the Pharisees. 0.97

00:49:02.660 You know, they devour widows' households. 0.96

00:49:05.320 Exactly. 1.00

00:49:06.020 Yeah. 1.00

00:49:06.200 I mean, it's the same thing where it's like you get these women. 0.96

00:49:09.560 You get the women. 0.96

00:49:10.120 who um are widows that have you know have the wealth that their their husbands built up and 0.98

00:49:15.280 they're living off of it after he's passed away and you and you just uh you know sweep them up 0.72

00:49:21.720 into whatever you're saying and and manipulate them um and and that's that's very very common

00:49:27.020 right yeah and it's and that that's not i'm not saying this is a one size fits all so i'm not

00:49:31.700 saying they're doing it i'm not saying hey men yeah right because back to your point about like

00:49:35.160 it was a bunch of men at trump rallies so it's not to say hey if if trump had a bunch of men

00:49:40.060 then then trump must be solid he must be righteous yeah he must be righteous yeah like no that's not

00:49:45.280 what we're saying so but it's not a one-size-fits-all it's not a guarantee but what i am

00:49:49.860 saying is i think that's that's how i the disclaimer how i preface this whole thing i said i just want

00:49:54.200 to ask i just want to raise a question yeah i think it's worth questioning it's just worth

00:49:58.480 considering thinking about praying about um is there something to be said for your current

00:50:03.620 gatekeepers within big and mid-Eva, their predominant following, their donations, their

00:50:11.220 supporters, their this, their that, are all women. Can I say something else here? It's related,

00:50:16.140 I think. Because if you go on Twitter, Christian Twitter, right? What is the kind of tone that 0.99

00:50:22.460 gets warned about the most? And all of us get the same criticism. You're an angry young man.

00:50:27.700 I've got a harsh tone. You've got a whatever tone. You're proud. It's those kind of tones,

00:50:32.340 right yeah what are the tones that the bible worries uh warns about it's the smooth talkers

00:50:37.000 yeah that's the ones with buttery words it's the ones that that's smooth flattery that's what the

00:50:41.960 bible warns about amen yeah that does not mean that my tone is always you know dead on point

00:50:47.060 and i'm doing the right things all the time that's not what i'm saying you can see it in how i speak

00:50:50.080 yeah but what i'm saying is that that that that disconnect that says something yep that says

00:50:56.980 something yeah i'm glad you brought up that that the language piece ad because those are two things

00:51:01.800 worth considering if you have a movement that is uh because they would say this movement must not

00:51:07.300 be it cannot be of the spirit of god when it's worldly and vain and you know and you know and

00:51:13.140 and harsh turn and it's marked by anger and you know and but but on the flip side just to be fair

00:51:19.720 and that's not to say that there isn't real sin in areas to grow and ways to repent but on the

00:51:24.740 flip side i we can use we got plenty of bible on our side to just flip that argument say yeah but

00:51:30.220 what about the church movement uh what is it of the spirit of god if the only people that follow

00:51:35.760 these male teachers are women yeah and that they uh it's marked by flowery speech and it's marked

00:51:41.040 exactly yeah yeah and they go they go on cruises to talk about persecution a persecution cruise

00:51:48.980 and that was not that long 2017 uh 2014 or okay okay but still less than 10 years ago less than

00:51:56.300 10 years ago on a cruise and the topic is persecution suffering yeah like i mean so

00:52:01.480 it's just i'm just saying like if we want to play that game well you guys you're you're the only

00:52:06.760 people that are following you are young men well hot diggity dog good we're gonna win guys i mean

00:52:11.640 honestly you know we you know just just recently actually i think they're still there uh at the

00:52:16.980 time of this recording you know people are touring the the the ruins of christendom right you know

00:52:23.580 you and I and you would see, wow, what a thing, man.

00:52:27.600 It was so amazing.

00:52:28.940 Like, we need to get this back.

00:52:30.120 This is just so glorious.

00:52:31.640 They just love, you know, the Lord

00:52:33.020 and they did these amazing things.

00:52:34.080 The whole civilization loved Jesus so much.

00:52:35.640 They built cathedrals for us.

00:52:36.160 They built cathedrals.

00:52:37.120 So we see that stuff.

00:52:38.280 You know what?

00:52:38.560 That's attractive.

00:52:40.320 They see it and say,

00:52:41.320 this is the dangers of church and state.

00:52:43.680 And this is what,

00:52:45.180 they're touring the glories of Christendom.

00:52:48.620 And they're seeing-

00:52:49.460 This cathedral, a troubling reminder.

00:52:52.000 Right.

00:52:52.180 and they're seeing their negativity they're just bringing their negativity with them to that yeah

00:52:56.620 and honestly like we're gonna win guys like that cannot survive that team doesn't yeah that team

00:53:03.240 doesn't score points that doesn't survive you know that they don't want to yeah they're committed to

00:53:07.460 losing it's like you know they get the football and it's all right all right first uh first play

00:53:12.240 on the play sheet is kneel down yeah yeah yeah it's the first quarter and yeah and you're already

00:53:18.360 down what are you doing yeah it's it's it's so white pilling to see stuff like that it's it's

00:53:23.580 funny too like we could all joke about it and laugh and yeah and make our memes and stuff but

00:53:27.560 but um they cannot win right doing the things that they're doing and they're committed to not

00:53:33.440 winning yeah and and you and you see that um and it isn't just like that particular group

00:53:38.320 it it's so much of evangelicalism is even even though they talk about evangelism and evangelism

00:53:43.280 is like the highest priority and we care so much about evangelism but you just evangelize

00:53:48.080 people into making a profession of faith for jesus but then living just like the rest of trash world

00:53:53.320 yeah and um it's committed to losing in a different way that's right but but ultimately it's it's still

00:53:58.680 all about losing it's not about building uh faithful communities um people you know having

00:54:05.500 like like we've talked about before you know having their theology come under their fingertips

00:54:09.580 and affecting every single part of their life right um they it's not committed to those kinds

00:54:15.160 of things it's it's committed to just you know loosely baptizing what already exists calling it

00:54:22.160 christian doing the tim keller thing that he does to manhattan and just saying okay you're christian

00:54:25.960 yeah you believe in abortion and homosexuality and all this kind of stuff every liberal thing

00:54:29.760 that there is but you kind of like jesus and you're intrigued a little bit by christianity

00:54:34.000 well come to my church right right rather than going to manhattan and saying thus saith the lord

00:54:38.840 right it's preaching his words that this is what god says and get with it or not like going there

00:54:43.700 like jonah going to nineveh that's right right right um and yeah maybe you're not gonna have

00:54:47.680 thousands of people right you'll maybe just be this vanguard of a few dozen people in manhattan

00:54:54.120 um but that is way better also it's way better and here's here's something even better maybe 0.99

00:55:00.620 than that you could also leave manhattan yeah yeah and let it burn and let it kill itself yeah 1.00

00:55:06.220 because that's that's what trash world does trash world is self-defeating it is suicidal 0.99

00:55:10.500 yeah because because god's design uh what he's built into the fabric of his his natural created 0.80

00:55:17.260 order is uh that it lends towards fruitfulness it lends towards longevity it lends towards health

00:55:22.760 and life and these kinds of and and when you directly rebel more naming and claiming stuff

00:55:26.800 here we go yeah when you when you directly rebel against that it lends towards destruction it lends

00:55:32.640 towards um yeah a short life and in you know death and and so uh one and that's that's part

00:55:39.800 of the that's part of the judgment that god brings so again i'm not saying there are no caveats there

00:55:43.780 are no exceptions there you know some people really are called missionary is a legitimate

00:55:48.400 biblical category however however i do think that right now by and large on the whole so this is not

00:55:54.900 a one size fits all but on the whole i do think that right now christians have spread themselves

00:56:00.000 too thin i think that's what we did the last 15 20 years with church planting urban church planting

00:56:05.500 in the city for the city we we spread ourselves too thin and so you got all these guys who you

00:56:11.200 know some of them just like like keller sold out and the city discipled them far more than they

00:56:15.540 disciple the city and then the ones who what you just described yeah sure they're faithful and

00:56:19.680 there's 10 people in their church but it's like dude if but but the guy is actually he's not a

00:56:24.180 10 person pastor he's a rock star and if he would fall back and this is where you guys made fun of

00:56:29.160 me for being fake and gay you know but if you would fall back avengers assemble you know that's

00:56:33.460 right right but like and join another team and then you start building juggernauts moscow right 0.91

00:56:39.580 and that's what that's what the guys in ogden are trying to do that's apology of you know like yeah

00:56:43.900 rebuilding christendom um even before trash world collapses right right that's that's part of it too

00:56:49.180 is that's right capturing the vision of what we want things to look like in 500 years right and

00:56:54.500 spending the rest of our lives and directing our children our grandchildren and all the other

00:56:58.900 descendants that we get to meet while we're still alive and kicking and saying, this is the vision,

00:57:03.300 this is the goal, this is what we want to build. And building it up and making it strong and

00:57:08.120 resilient and anti-fragile, right? Getting stronger even as it faces opposition. Building those things

00:57:13.780 up while the other thing is still standing, because it's going to come down. And if it comes

00:57:20.040 down and you haven't been building these things up in the meantime, the chaos is even going to be

00:57:24.440 worse right that's that's the other thing to think about is like if if you face a situation in

00:57:29.240 america if we face a situation in america like like the collapse of the soviet union uh in 20

00:57:34.280 years in 10 years and there are no mediating institutions there are no there are no businesses

00:57:40.180 there are no christian schools there's no churches there's no you know real flesh and

00:57:44.220 blood communities um and you're just all alone right that's a bad place to be in but if you've

00:57:50.000 been spending the last 20 years building those things up places and people that are resilient

00:57:54.940 and maybe that includes having chickens i don't know right but but you're building those things

00:58:00.040 up um then when all that stuff comes tumbling down and times are really hard for everyone else

00:58:05.780 you kind of have an arc to to go in that's going to float right above everything else

00:58:10.400 and and you're going to be you're going to be like forest gum shrimp boat right when it goes

00:58:15.360 out in the end of the hurricane and then the hurricane smashes all the boats that are at port

00:58:18.760 right and now he's the king of shrimp in in alabama right uh right and he he reaps the

00:58:24.440 rewards like the wealth of of of the wicked is stored up for the righteous that's that's that's

00:58:28.560 how that happens is you build christendom you build these things and then god comes in with

00:58:33.540 the scythe and and harvests all of it well that's been doug's whole thing recently that he's been

00:58:38.580 talking about he's saying like okay but you know god sometimes takes forever to do something

00:58:42.020 suddenly and part of the problem you want to sit here and talk about how the oh the crusades were

00:58:46.180 terrible and blah blah blah but first like you know probably you should know a little bit better

00:58:50.100 you know historically what happened but beyond that beyond that whatever faults really did happen

00:58:55.280 with constantine or you know anybody else part of it is part of it part of it is that uh that

00:59:02.740 that this was all of a sudden christians who were you know the object of persecution found

00:59:07.620 themselves in power overnight you know very very suddenly yeah and that tends to be if you look

00:59:12.560 throughout you know history that tends to be the way that god providentially works is that you know

00:59:17.040 there's faithfulness and it's slow and it's slow so the same thing that we quoted you know earlier

00:59:20.740 about like well you know with hemingway how'd you go bankrupt you know slowly at first and then all

00:59:26.200 of a sudden you know and then suddenly so gradually and then suddenly well i think in the same way how

00:59:30.040 does christendom come oh gradually and then suddenly and and and so my point is having these

00:59:36.620 kinds of conversations about christian nationalism and uh you know political theology and christendom

00:59:43.220 you know christendom yeah and and about um you know all these kind of it's like well you guys

00:59:47.720 are larping or you guys are you know no look you don't want to get everyone is larping yeah but

00:59:52.140 here's the deal you don't want to get flogged yeah okay baptists you don't want to get flogged

00:59:56.420 yeah great you know one thing that would help let's talk about it yeah let's talk about it before

01:00:00.740 we get there yeah let's not wait till suddenly in the province of god he you know chooses to 0.95

01:00:05.680 judge trash world and throws the presbyterians in control you know but he judges you know trash 0.96

01:00:13.460 world and throws you know christians a bone that we don't deserve you know like let's not figure 0.99

01:00:18.100 it out then let's figure it out now yeah that's right talk about it now that's not larping

01:00:22.180 that's actually but see here's the i'm going against myself i say that's not larping but

01:00:27.780 really for for the guys that we're talking about for them it is because for them truly as god is

01:00:33.700 their witness you know in terms of what they're convinced of in their theological framework there

01:00:38.200 is no possible scenario that god would ever ever ever allow that level of christian victory yeah

01:00:45.520 again they can't they cannot fathom or conceptualize it whatsoever yeah it can't happen it cannot

01:00:50.720 possibly occur yeah they're not quite sure how it occurred in the past yeah but they know that

01:00:55.280 the fact that it did occur because it was bad it was evil and sinister and corrupt you know that's

01:01:00.580 The only way it ever occurred in the past and it'll never occur in the, in the future.

01:01:03.920 And so that's, I think why, that's why when we have these conversations, they're like, 1.00

01:01:07.180 you silly, you know, whippersnappers, you know, it's like, weren't you like, you're 0.99

01:01:11.020 five years older than you did, you know, but like, you know, you're, you're LARPing and 1.00

01:01:15.680 you're not real, you know, serious people.

01:01:17.360 And it's like, no, no, God's done this again.

01:01:19.620 And my Bible tells me that he's promised that he's going to do it.

01:01:22.760 He's done it before.

01:01:23.720 He's going to do it again.

01:01:24.940 It may not be in my lifetime, but we need to have these kinds of conversations.

01:01:28.140 You think that things were done poorly before.

01:01:30.100 well i think you're probably wrong but but i'm sure it wasn't perfect nothing's perfect so so

01:01:35.020 let's talk about how we can improve it that's why like the name of the conference that you know i'm

01:01:38.400 doing uh in march you know you know it is uh blueprints for christendom 2.0 yeah like saying

01:01:45.720 like okay like yeah sure we can maybe do better we can have it and we can have it better than it

01:01:49.800 was before yeah sounds good we can take the experience of the past and build upon it and

01:01:54.160 learn yeah and and yeah it is so funny that that um yeah they treat it like oh it's a larp and it's

01:02:01.200 like well how do how does anything that is currently not extant come into being right

01:02:06.800 someone thinks about it and talks about it and plans you have to have ideas uh that people are

01:02:12.300 that are attractive that people want to pursue and and then carry out into reality that's right

01:02:16.780 right and that's that's the stage that we're at right now and no no one denies that right

01:02:20.980 And Stephen Wolf isn't out there thinking like, no, we are a Christian nation right now. We just have to snap our fingers and say the magic words and then boom, you know, kind of like a lot of QAnon people today think like there's some secret admiralty law that the government is bound by. 0.87

01:02:37.920 like that's that's really a thing is they think like oh there's like the property law of the of 0.94

01:02:44.140 the bank of england and that's what they're actually under and so that's why the patriots

01:02:47.400 are still in control right i mean they i think they think that we think that about christian

01:02:51.740 nationalism that like like the christians we're still in control of everything we just uh are

01:02:56.200 pretending that we aren't or something like that i think that's what they think that we're how we're

01:02:59.040 operating right um right and you see the libs do this like um what mike johnson just became the

01:03:04.120 speaker of the house and he's a southern baptist and and uh uh a creationist it's like he's a

01:03:10.180 christian nationalist and taking over and everything and it's like i mean the guy's

01:03:13.160 first priority is to give 100 billion dollars to israel he's not he's that's not he's a jewish

01:03:19.660 nationalist yeah he's zionist uh but like his first priority is not you know making america

01:03:24.960 a christian nation right um like that's not the first thing he's doing he's not even like securing

01:03:28.900 the american border right like that like if you talk to the run-of-the-mill christian nationalist

01:03:33.280 leader you know you know friends that we have right the first thing they would do if they're

01:03:37.640 speaker of the house is all right 100 billion to just build a giant wall and a moat and machine

01:03:41.540 gun nests along the border and that's step one you know like things like that that would be just

01:03:46.180 the obvious one right right but um we don't we we don't have that we don't have power we know that

01:03:51.920 we are out of power you know like these guys talk all the time about how oh we're an exile we're

01:03:55.980 exiles on and and i'm like yeah we kind of are for the moment right now in one sense we are but

01:04:01.800 we're not going to be forever.

01:04:02.840 Like this world belongs to Jesus.

01:04:05.620 And we need to work to realize his reign and rule

01:04:10.400 and work to make all of the nations of this world,

01:04:13.660 all the kingdoms of this world,

01:04:15.180 the kingdom of our Lord Jesus Christ.

01:04:17.260 And how does that happen?

01:04:18.680 It doesn't mean we like just assemble a massive army

01:04:21.400 and point guns at people and say, 0.77

01:04:22.600 you will convert or die. 1.00

01:04:23.780 Dude. 1.00

01:04:24.180 Right?

01:04:24.420 But that's why they think that we-

01:04:25.600 They're still saying forced conversions.

01:04:27.240 Yeah.

01:04:27.580 Yeah.

01:04:27.760 No one says that.

01:04:28.540 No one has said that.

01:04:29.600 no one has ever said that yeah no no none of us no yeah no it's crazy we're not saying anything

01:04:35.960 even the ridiculous anon accounts don't even say that yeah i've never seen anyone say that

01:04:40.740 they'll say other stuff that's like yeah okay i disagree but uh but they won't say that one no

01:04:46.220 one said nobody believes that but that is still insisted again and again and again these guys

01:04:50.520 hold defer uh forced conversions yeah they don't have even if you say like hey we don't want people

01:04:55.780 to like blaspheme jesus name and we're going to try to put a stop to that right but internally

01:05:00.160 you can believe whatever you want right we're not going to force you to like change your heart

01:05:04.480 but in the public square you can't have a dude dressed up like jesus and and then a nun and

01:05:11.320 gyrating in front of them yeah yeah sorry we're not gonna allow that sorry yeah there are decency

01:05:15.520 laws that always existed in american history until the until their wonderful democratic pluralist 0.76

01:05:21.200 society came in in the middle of the 20th century right right before that it's like no those people

01:05:26.100 would have been in jail right away right everywhere and every part of the most liberal part of the

01:05:30.420 country straight to jail jail they're gonna do what they have to do and we're just gonna have

01:05:35.840 to do what we have to do that that's the ultimate white pill you actually don't need you know the

01:05:39.700 powers that be and you don't need this don't need them to approve of anything yeah you just keep

01:05:44.880 going you just keep going yeah just pretend they don't exist and we will get canceled but here's

01:05:49.280 one of the cool things that i'm learning about the cancel thing is like when people cancel you um

01:05:54.840 what you do is like you just say uh you just say no like uh like what what was i think it was um

01:06:02.100 how was the office stanley it was stanley and uh michael scott's is like you know corporates like

01:06:08.660 forcing him to fire someone and so it's like this terrible friday you know he's like you gotta fire

01:06:12.500 one person he hasn't even decided and so he's just he's giving it a try on each of these people

01:06:17.680 you're fired you're fighting and trying you know and he tries it on stanley and uh you know so he's

01:06:22.620 like stanley i need to see you in my office and he comes in his office and he's like stanley i'm

01:06:26.180 sorry you know i gotta let you gotta let you go you're fired and stanley just laughs he says

01:06:30.300 you're fired you're fired and he says it right back to you know and he goes back to his desk

01:06:36.500 and just keeps working yeah and like and so you know but my point is just like you know people

01:06:41.540 are going to can you know like they're going to cancel so you're going to say well you know joel

01:06:45.020 you know you weren't qualified to be a pastor when you first tried to plant a church and i'll

01:06:48.620 say yeah i've been saying that on every podcast for seven years i know that um every every one

01:06:54.200 of my church knows that and anybody who needs to know that knows that or ad you're harsh and

01:06:58.940 you're this and it's like that's cute you're fired you know you just and you just keep you

01:07:03.100 just keep going and it's just like we don't so you're right you just you just keep going yeah

01:07:07.820 exactly they're they they they don't have the power over you to stop you anyway if they want

01:07:13.340 to do yeah all they can do is just attack you and slander you and accuse you of things that you

01:07:18.300 don't believe and and meanwhile the people that are capable of getting it are going to listen to

01:07:24.440 what you have to say and and join you and and continue marching toward the same and that goes

01:07:29.240 back to your point you don't here's the beauty you know the hopeful thing you don't need that

01:07:33.260 many people no not not at first not not for leadership not for getting the ball rolling so

01:07:38.280 no it's like because it does work the smear campaigns work there's a reason why people do

01:07:42.820 it so people will get slandered um and you look at how much like doug gets slandered oh yeah totally

01:07:47.800 and it works yeah and here's how i know it works it worked because uh there were a few years that

01:07:52.640 i i didn't uh i held him at bay at arm's length but then eventually you know i looked into him

01:07:58.320 and i was like well actually he's pretty good and yes there are some stories but he's got some you

01:08:02.220 know some answers to that and and he just kept going and he just kept going that's the thing

01:08:05.620 you're taking his drive he was just like no i'm just gonna do it all the people right the the

01:08:10.820 highest value people, right? The brightest, the most competent, the hardest working, right? Those

01:08:16.580 young guys and gals, they're going to be wanting to win, right? They're going to be on the side

01:08:23.660 that wants to win and they're going to apply all of their energy and effort and the skills and

01:08:28.640 abilities that God has given them to win rather than just waste them in losing for the rest of

01:08:36.080 their lives you're right yeah well that's it that's our series i hope that's been helpful for

01:08:41.860 everybody who's listened and um yeah and by god's grace we'll see maybe you know maybe in the future

01:08:47.760 we'll do something like this again all right awesome

The NXR Podcast - March 09, 2024

THE FRIDAY SPECIAL - Slay The Dragon, Rescue The Girl, & Keep Your Kids

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