The NXR Podcast - THE FRIDAY SPECIAL - Why America’s Pastors Are Fat

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00:00:23.480 five-star review on your favorite podcast platform thanks god has made men to be men 0.83

00:00:31.360 to be distinct from women to have testosterone and defined musculature yet the average 22 year

00:00:38.860 old man today has the same testosterone levels that the average social security eligible man 0.74

00:00:43.700 had a little over 20 years ago all you have to do to see this in the most vivid way you can

00:00:49.900 is to compare what people look like today

00:00:51.920 to your parents' or grandparents' wedding photos.

00:00:54.800 The fattest person in those ruffled tuxedos

00:00:56.900 or bridesmaid dresses with puffy sleeves 0.99

00:00:58.860 would look emaciated by comparison today.

00:01:02.840 You also see this when watching footage

00:01:04.480 of people on the street or on the beach from 50 years ago.

00:01:07.660 Everyone had normal BMIs.

00:01:09.680 Obesity, much less morbid obesity,

00:01:12.320 was extremely rare.

00:01:15.100 Why is this the case?

00:01:16.140 Why are we so fat?

00:01:18.020 And why do we keep getting fatter?

00:01:19.900 we've mentioned a little bit already about how christianity has become so gnostic that we've

00:01:28.140 completely severed the spiritual from the physical and you know at the time of recording this there's

00:01:34.500 been some twitter spats online about biblical masculinity and guys are trying to say hey you

00:01:39.820 know what part of masculinity is physical vitality strength duration those kinds of things

00:01:47.800 um and then others are saying well you know again it's they can't speak in generality so it's like

00:01:53.220 but if i can find one man who's a godly man yes and you know and also happens to be a quadriplegic

00:01:59.540 then you know then i can say that masculinity has nothing to do your principle is invalid yeah

00:02:03.820 exactly which that's not the way it works but all that being said like we've become super gnostic

00:02:08.480 um meaning that you know we've severed the the physical from the spiritual the spiritual is all

00:02:14.760 that matters john eldridge gets a bad rap you know with like yeah exactly that kind of stuff

00:02:20.000 um but i just want to say from the outset as we go into this episode uh i think you know it's easy

00:02:26.220 for our antagonist to say well you know but uh you're you're not uh what you were you know saying

00:02:34.540 is the ideal you know like well you look like you could lose a few pounds yourself chubby you know

00:02:39.960 like you know and and i think like here's the whole thing um call it you know conservatives

00:02:46.520 the new right christian nationalists whatever you want to call it the guys who are advocating for

00:02:51.060 biblical masculinity to have teeth and for it to actually have tangible attributes like physical

00:02:56.860 strength and health and those kinds of things we're not doing that because um because it suits

00:03:01.760 us because it's convenient we're not making those kinds of arguments because we all have raging

00:03:06.020 six packs and because we all have this you know that let's speak for yourself right

00:03:10.660 we're doing it because we're saying no but i think this is the biblical ideal even though i

00:03:17.740 myself fall short of it that um that i'm actually going to you know so it's not there's a bunch of

00:03:23.720 young guys who are in fantastic perfect shape and it just it's convenient for them to say that you

00:03:29.280 know being in good physical shape is a part of biblical masculinity no we're saying despite the

00:03:34.160 fact that we too have been eating you know from the the trash world trough you know of soy and

00:03:41.080 all these different you know uh we but we recognize there's a problem with that there's a problem and

00:03:46.560 i don't know who said it probably a bunch of guys have said it but uh when i think of the physical

00:03:51.320 attributes of manhood i think like one way to sum it up uh succinctly is that a man should be uh he

00:03:57.100 should be hard to kill that like um that a man should be hard to kill it you shouldn't be able

00:04:02.000 to it's like okay like i'm not immortal i'm just a man um but if you want to hurt my family you're 0.94

00:04:08.120 going to have to kill me and it's not going to be easy yeah yeah so yeah no i i think um

00:04:15.180 your point is is such a good one it would be very easy for us to say the convenient thing 0.58

00:04:20.540 and quite frankly a lot of our detractors in this space are saying the convenient thing right yeah

00:04:26.160 they're fat and they're saying that that godliness has nothing to do with being in shape or even if

00:04:30.540 they're not fat they're not where they want to be right let's just say it that way yeah yeah um 0.96

00:04:34.360 but i think you know when when we're talking about these things we're looking at look there's a way

00:04:40.700 of life that quite frankly very few of us have lived in maybe none of us have lived um that is

00:04:46.860 better than our current way of life and so you know we recognize that that's step one and then

00:04:52.760 doing something about it is step two you can't just recognize you got to do something about it

00:04:56.320 and for different people it's going to look differently like not everybody's going to be

00:05:00.240 able to cut out or have the will to cut out seed oils instantly. But there are things that everybody

00:05:05.820 can do. And, and we're saying we should stay, we should, we should start that right now.

00:05:10.260 Right. Exactly. Yeah, absolutely. I, I, I think about, um, you know, where I was when I, I first

00:05:18.020 kind of went on, on the journey of, of discovering that things are not quite right

00:05:22.680 with, uh, the food we consume and, and just our, our, our lifestyle, um, what the lifestyle that's

00:05:29.400 expected where you're just stationary all day sitting in, in, uh, you know, less comfortable

00:05:34.980 chairs than these, uh, behind a desk. And I was, you know, I was, I was topping the scales at like,

00:05:43.120 uh, close to 310 pounds. And I need, this is not healthy. I don't want to, I don't want to live

00:05:49.460 this way. And I still would like work out, but I was, I was not in good physical condition.

00:05:55.540 And I realized like, no, I need to, I need to lose weight and it's hard. It's, it's hard when you just say yes to every food because who cares to be like, no, I'm going to keep it within this certain calorie limit and then do that for a year and, and have the willpower to, to continue living that way is extremely difficult.

00:06:15.660 it it's painful um sometimes but uh when when you lose weight and you get stronger uh at the same

00:06:23.300 time um and you're in better physical shape you can you can run longer uh with you have better

00:06:29.120 stamina you can run faster um all of those things you begin to feel you know like right now at 37

00:06:34.100 i feel better than i did when i was 25 um except you know my my knees and joints will ache a little

00:06:39.840 bit more yeah yeah yeah but like but physically i feel like i can i can do more i can i can lift

00:06:45.200 more. I can, I can run more. And, um, just the, the, um, psychological effect that that has on

00:06:53.760 you, uh, it, it changes you. It, it, it makes you more masculine. Um, and I mean, there's

00:07:00.780 physiological reasons for that too. Like, uh, you know, excess lipidity lowers your testosterone

00:07:05.180 levels and, and testosterone is, you know, we can joke around about it and, and, and laugh,

00:07:11.040 but it really is the the hormone that makes you masculine um and and so and it gives you you know

00:07:18.360 strength and confidence and all all these things and so you know even from the outset from the

00:07:23.240 what we read in the book um the fact that testosterone levels are so low today is not

00:07:31.020 random or an accident or anything like that it's that we've we've turned into the people like in

00:07:35.640 the movie wall-e where you're just you know it's sitting in your thing moving around and and when

00:07:40.960 the guy falls out he can't get back into his thing like the robots have to pick him up and

00:07:44.680 plop him back into it like that's that's that's our oh you know almost our way of life as it exists

00:07:50.440 now and that's not that's not how god built men to be um and you look at it and yeah you look at

00:07:57.200 like the the statues from antiquity and how the greeks viewed the ideal body type like uh

00:08:02.280 uh porphyris you know the spear carrier there's a there's one version of it in the um metropolitan

00:08:08.900 museum of art in in minneapolis in minnesota where i'm from and this guy's you know he's this

00:08:16.580 greek statue and he's strong and he uh and you see this and this was their ideal this is what a what

00:08:21.920 a man should look like and it's not as though we're taking and people the detractors would hear

00:08:25.620 that think like well you're that's a pagan understanding of what humanity is but all of

00:08:31.140 all people everywhere have, have viewed, okay, men should be strong and they should be capable

00:08:35.920 of, of doing violence if they have to. And, and you look at it today, like you have, you know,

00:08:42.040 these obese people that like you push them and they'll just tip over and like, that's in men

00:08:48.580 like that, that's not good. That's not good. You can't defend a family. Like Joel said,

00:08:52.560 you can't defend a family that way. If somebody just, you know, barely taps you and you, you

00:08:56.380 crumple uh you need to be able to defend your family especially today uh like the amount of

00:09:01.300 crime and and violence and and the direction things are going um you need to be able to um

00:09:07.920 be hard to kill right and and i you know so i realized that i i lose a bunch of weight and it

00:09:13.480 like drastically changes your whole mentality of of how you operate on even on a day-to-day basis

00:09:19.340 and this is one of those areas where it seems like conservatives have just kind of thrown in

00:09:23.280 the towel and you know just surrendered it to the left so like this and also you you think of the

00:09:29.180 environment you know so like there's a portion where you say like in the book you know like

00:09:32.880 we don't want to just eat cheeseburgers and burn tires in our backyard to own the lips

00:09:37.000 you know so like yeah um no like the environment is um that's not a leftist thing that's a

00:09:42.300 christian thing yeah and the leftist environmentalism is really fake right explain that for

00:09:47.780 a second yeah so i mean it really is this like top-down bureaucratic thing that they think oh

00:09:52.560 if we just replace all the light bulbs, that'll stop the world from destroying itself. You know,

00:09:57.580 like if we just do the tinker with these little bureaucratic things, you know, use paper straws,

00:10:02.740 that'll fix everything. And it's like, no, it doesn't. And it, and what it does, it's like a

00:10:07.620 typical liberal thing where it's like, you outsource any care you have about, about the

00:10:13.980 actual environment. You outsource that to other people that take care of it rather than no, like

00:10:18.860 i um i i pick up trash by the roadside and i take care of uh you know you know clean up parks and

00:10:26.240 things like that like i um and and um care about my immediate environment uh way more and you'll

00:10:32.680 you'll see that especially in like um that still exists in in like rural kind of blue collar red

00:10:39.000 state areas where you have all sorts of different hunting associations that really take care of the

00:10:43.180 land. And these are not people that have a high view of Greta Thunberg. These are people that

00:10:49.340 just want nice, clean waters to fish in and land to hunt in that they can walk through. It's not

00:10:57.540 full of trash and garbage. And even like the national parks, like creating national parks

00:11:03.540 was like this very right-wing thing. It wasn't like, yeah, okay, Teddy Roosevelt, he was kind

00:11:08.860 of this progressive but it was it was very much um a right-wing project we want to maintain these

00:11:14.040 places that are our natural beauties and wonders uh for posterity to to see we don't want them full

00:11:20.520 of strip malls and garbage everywhere um there's a there's a reason why like you don't have national 1.00

00:11:26.320 parks in third world countries right um there's just trash all over the place and those countries 1.00

00:11:31.280 are the ones that don't they don't care about the environment at all uh they don't have uh you know 1.00

00:11:35.960 well-ordered societies like like we used to so yeah also uh so that's you know on the environment

00:11:43.280 front back to food nutrition um now i've even struggled with this i'll confess you know for

00:11:49.840 myself on one hand like i think of you know okay in terms of hunger there's a lot less people in

00:11:57.820 terms of percentages there's more people in terms of you know overall numeric number uh way more

00:12:03.880 people in the world today than there was even just a short time ago um and yet percentage wise

00:12:10.620 there's way less hunger than there was a short time ago and so for you know for all three of us

00:12:17.220 we would prescribe to post-millennialism in terms of our eschatology um and we would see you know

00:12:22.500 like you know he comes to make you know his blessings flow as far as the curse is found

00:12:27.420 um pushing back on global hungry uh hunger and feeding people all those kinds of things

00:12:32.520 like so praise god for that but there's something to be said like okay but what what is uh what 0.51

00:12:37.680 constitutes food well and we and we have you know you almost said it we have global homo hunger 0.76

00:12:41.800 yeah now right and you're right i mean it's it's the same argument though where you could make the 0.92

00:12:48.700 same quasi post-millennial argument that well there's way more wealth now than there there

00:12:54.700 ever used to be so that must be good but we've we talked about this before that like the wealth

00:12:58.900 that we have is largely fictitious like yeah we have lots of consumer goods and things like

00:13:02.460 that and but that's come at a cost right it's always trade-offs destabilized our whole our 0.98

00:13:07.920 whole society you know sending sending women to work take you're destroying households all that

00:13:12.160 kind of stuff and yeah you get much more production but you you've eaten through the seed corn and

00:13:17.000 it's the same it's it's similar with food like yeah we produce way more food but is it the kind

00:13:22.260 of food that gives people you know healthy um you know healthy lives or is it the kind of food that

00:13:28.540 makes them fat and sick right um so it's like uh yeah it's i mean you can eat it and it will

00:13:35.120 satiate you uh not very well but it will satiate you um but it's not something that like in like

00:13:42.440 this kind of idealist post-millennial sense right we wouldn't have you know all of this acreage of

00:13:48.040 corn and soybeans everywhere we would have pastures where where cows are grazing and you

00:13:52.400 and you can you can do that it just it it's much less uh you make less money that way right you

00:13:58.820 you aren't maximizing maximizing the um the profitability of that acreage like you would

00:14:04.740 with corn and soybeans and feedlots and and so forth and and so the result is um ultimately

00:14:12.400 you know a diet that is is really unlike any in human history where people are fed like the the 0.69

00:14:20.260 baseline for human history is people are hungry like poor people are starving right um and now

00:14:26.220 all of our poorest people in america are are fat and diabetic you know and it's like you you

00:14:34.020 couldn't if you went back in time and this is a thing that i'd say a lot of the book like you go

00:14:37.700 back in time and you tell people 500 years ago yeah you know we've got a lot of poor people in

00:14:42.020 america and you know the biggest health problem they have is they eat too much food um they'd be

00:14:48.000 like that doesn't like you must be in some kind of paradise you must be living in the garden of

00:14:51.920 eden it's like no the food is like barely constitutes its food product and it's it's

00:14:58.880 all like corn oil and soy oil uh that that they're consuming and it's we basically feed all our poor

00:15:04.960 people paint thinner and they blow it up um and like oh that sounds even worse yeah all right i'm

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00:16:21.760 there's always trade-offs in these situations right so you get the calories that you need to

00:16:25.880 survive but it's simultaneously lowering your quality of life it's simultaneously killing you

00:16:31.180 almost well maybe not even almost it is killing you yeah yeah and it creates a um a passivity

00:16:38.860 in you as well yeah where i mean it's no surprise like people are always surprised about why did

00:16:44.560 everyone comply with covid i mean we're all like dying here right you know we're all like depressed

00:16:49.740 and dying and that's why people complied with that right yeah you know what i mean yeah and

00:16:54.400 they were engineered that way even with the food right yeah um i remember when i first realized

00:17:00.660 that the food pyramid was a scam yeah it's a big it's a big awakening for a lot of people yeah

00:17:04.960 yeah that was a big moment not only is it a scam but it's like inverted yeah right yeah yeah you

00:17:09.620 need fats you need animal fat you need red meat and you don't need carbs the whole thing was like

00:17:14.640 okay cholesterol you know having high cholesterol is really really really bad that's the you know

00:17:19.380 the leading thing uh for heart attacks and uh the thing that's going to give you bad cholesterol is

00:17:24.980 butter and bacon and fat you know eggs yeah these kinds of things steak uh red meat you know or at

00:17:32.780 least too much red meat yeah and so you know meats and those kinds and fats you know those kinds of

00:17:38.080 things are is what's going to give you you know bad cholesterol and that's what's going to give

00:17:41.300 you a heart attack but very little mention of sugar you know and so then it was like well the

00:17:46.260 thing that's good for you is grains you know so that's like at the bottom it's all these grains

00:17:50.240 but then what pasta all day long right fine yeah exactly yeah it's low fat but i feel terrible when

00:17:55.600 i eat pasta like you know and which we rarely do in the webbing household we eat meat and vegetables

00:18:00.620 and fruit and those but um and luckily i have a wife who helps to take care of us but with all

00:18:06.280 that the point is to say that like with uh with grains came sugar like yeah grocery stores all

00:18:11.840 of a sudden it became cereal cereal cereal cereal like all these things and in all of them was uh

00:18:18.200 because it's bland you know and so like and they wanted people to you know to come back and to buy

00:18:23.640 more and like so it turns out like you know the grains that you eat these things you know and

00:18:28.140 it's packed filled with sugar so that it'll actually you know sell off the shelf and it

00:18:32.960 doesn't satiate hunger the same way that you know meat or those kinds of things so then you have to

00:18:36.380 eat more of it you go back and you're getting you know more and more and it it does seem like

00:18:41.000 man this is just uh it's an economic scam it seems like it's just like a business trick you

00:18:46.060 know like we're gonna sell more product yeah like when i was um when i when i started losing weight

00:18:51.700 and and became very serious about it i paid way more for groceries than i did before i started

00:18:58.860 losing weight like my i'm i'm eating less but my food budget is going up because i was buying way

00:19:04.120 more meat um and eating other you know not not eating cheap garbage and it was crazy like i could

00:19:11.480 eat a whole steak and some eggs and like that's my all the food i need that day and i mean not

00:19:17.700 even hungry the rest of the day and it's like wow it's almost like god designed the world for meat

00:19:25.960 to satiate you and all of the bread and grains and all this stuff kind of just leaves you hungry

00:19:30.980 and wanting more a couple hours later um that's oh that's a reality like that's that's and that's

00:19:36.740 how people used to live and and it's it's funny like you have that like the the lindy principle

00:19:40.580 you know comes from nasim nicholas taleb um where things that have been around for a long time the

00:19:46.640 likelihood is they're going to be around you know at least that long or longer and you know if you

00:19:52.360 think about that like how did your great grandmother make food like what food did she feed your great

00:19:57.180 grandpa uh well he would wake up and he'd have bacon and eggs and if it was bread it was like

00:20:02.800 you know hand ground or like stone ground bread like you know things like that where it's not

00:20:08.400 you know wonder bread off the shelf you know things things of that nature where it took a

00:20:12.680 lot of work to make that food and it was and it was more expensive uh but it was usually meats

00:20:18.340 and a lot of fat and uh some you know some vegetables like that's what the diet consisted

00:20:24.340 of. And it was like whole ingredients. That's what you made. There was no store shelf of processed

00:20:29.120 food to eat from. And that's like a Lindy way of, of eating. And we've, we've gone away from

00:20:36.080 that completely. And there's all sorts of reasons why, I mean, mainly financial ones, um, that you

00:20:41.800 can make a lot more money if you produce boxes, you know, store shelves completely full of Cheez-Its

00:20:46.560 than if you're, you know, if you're just selling meat, right. There's a lot less money to be made

00:20:52.180 in that way. Um, and so that's, what's become of our, our diets is, um, it isn't just, I mean,

00:20:58.280 it's easy to like just demonize all fast food and junk food and, and pop other people call it soda,

00:21:04.320 I guess, um, uh, that, that that's, that's become the main component of our diet. And that's true.

00:21:09.860 It has, but it's, it's also because like real food that takes time to make. And a lot of people

00:21:15.520 don't have time uh but real food um is is so much healthier so much better for you and and if you

00:21:23.300 eat it like i i like making i really like french cuisine and that takes a lot of time usually to

00:21:29.600 make um and it's usually very rich lots of cream and butter like butter and everything like families

00:21:34.780 um from from churches we've been at would always say like oh if you go to the iskers to eat you're

00:21:40.100 gonna eat at least three sticks of butter uh with the food that you eat uh but i i'd eat this way

00:21:46.480 and i would lose weight it was the craziest thing you know like i'm eating lots of meat and lots of

00:21:51.000 fat and like wow but the scale keeps going down what's going on there and and it's because i was

00:21:55.400 eating real food uh really for the first time in my life and and all of a sudden right um my body

00:22:03.160 is adjusting to that i'm not as hungry anymore i have more energy throughout the day even though

00:22:07.140 i'm eating less food um and and you know i'm finally kind of reverting to the way that uh

00:22:15.680 the way that people have always lived and you begin to become much much healthier but it takes

00:22:20.220 a tremendous amount of like conscious effort to not do what everybody else is doing just to get

00:22:25.780 to like baseline of how a human being used to look a hundred years ago right um like you have

00:22:32.780 to go way out of your way just to have a normal physique from like the 1920s um and and that should

00:22:41.620 tell you something is messed up something is not right and you can have this you know pseudo

00:22:47.680 post-millennial argument well we're feeding all the hungry people and it's like yeah but we're

00:22:51.720 we're making everyone fat and sick and and ruining their lives giving them diabetes

00:22:57.460 and, and cancer and things like this. Um, and is that, is that the trade-off we want? You know,

00:23:04.440 is that the trade-off that you want to have in this post-millennial future? I don't think so.

00:23:08.200 So a lot of our food, it makes us fat, makes us sick. Um, but it also makes us gay, right? 0.94

00:23:13.400 They're turning the frogs gay. They're turning the freaking frogs gay. 1.00

00:23:16.620 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're here in Austin with, uh, 1.00

00:23:18.700 so I'm being a little bit facetious, but you know, it does seem like, you know, there,

00:23:25.200 there is a link between our diet and not just when it comes to obesity and not just when it

00:23:30.960 comes to, you know, health versus, you know, disease and sickness and diabetes, but also

00:23:36.280 testosterone levels, like what you eat, like can actually affect, you know, your testosterone and

00:23:42.400 lower those things. And so let me say this, you know, when, when, when we were in the middle of

00:23:46.380 the Wuhan flu hysteria, I don't know about you guys, but when I would go to the grocery store

00:23:52.500 or wherever i was was at you know there was always a little bit of instant camaraderie you had with

00:23:57.460 someone who didn't wear the mask you know what i mean oh yeah you'd always give them the other

00:24:00.240 what i've noticed though is that it was mostly men that didn't wear the masks and it was pretty

00:24:06.940 much always a pretty healthy looking guy yeah a guy that's in shape a guy that's in shape a guy

00:24:10.900 larger than i am you know like that kind of thing some women didn't wear masks too and it was

00:24:15.920 typically again healthy looking women right that that wouldn't do it yeah and so i you know i'm

00:24:22.580 wondering you know i don't i don't know the connection but i can i can probably assume some 0.91

00:24:26.720 of it um but it's just amazing to me because the people that look the least healthy typically

00:24:31.600 were masking up as if they're guarding their health yeah right yeah right you know what i

00:24:36.380 mean well it's the same thing with like the the um can we say that you can say whatever the uh

00:24:43.600 the experimental medical treatment. It's the same thing where a lot of it too with health is you

00:24:50.680 don't, and fitness and all of this is, it's like, well, if I blimp up to 400 pounds, whatever,

00:24:57.720 but I can just take a pill or I can just get a vaccine or I can just have some external thing

00:25:03.700 that happens. If I get so obese, I can't sleep right and get sleep apnea. I can just put on the

00:25:08.880 sleep apnea mask and I'll sleep again. Like we haven't, I mean, healthcare in America is nearly

00:25:13.800 20% of the GDP. So going to the hospital, pharmaceuticals, all of that is like one out

00:25:19.920 of every $5 of things that are produced in America goes to that. And so there are all of these

00:25:26.340 different things that treat these symptoms rather than the main underlying thing, which is our food

00:25:31.800 is killing us and but the the issue there is it's way easier to just eat a whole box of cheese it's

00:25:39.080 than it is to you know cook a small steak and then have that as your dinner uh it's way easier

00:25:44.660 more convenient and it and it and and people like it yeah people people like living this way um

00:25:50.880 because they get comfort out of their they're depressed and so they eat more and they get

00:25:54.360 comfort from their food. And, and so rather than having people, you know, have willpower and,

00:26:01.720 and discipline, just eat as much as you want. And we'll, we'll come up with some medical solution

00:26:07.220 to take care of it afterward. And the, and the masks and the vaccine, I think are part of that,

00:26:13.720 that whole thing. It's like, well, I'll just take some more pills or I'll just, I'll just do this

00:26:17.100 and I'll just wear the mask. That'll protect my health rather than, oh, I should spend the next

00:26:21.760 year losing 100 pounds and going to the gym every day and working out really hard uh that'll help

00:26:27.600 my health uh well that's not even a consideration just throw on a little piece of cloth the main

00:26:32.140 things that were shut down during the lockdowns were churches and gyms so it was never really

00:26:36.180 about health and you know like if somebody was trying to play the devil's advocate when you're

00:26:40.080 like hey the healthy people are the ones who weren't wearing a mask and you know i could just

00:26:43.580 imagine you know somebody you know saying well well no duh you know the lowest risk yeah they

00:26:48.400 have a lowest risk factor and so it's the people who aren't healthy that would wear the mask to

00:26:52.240 protect them and stuff it's like yeah but but if they were really concerned about you know if all

00:26:56.780 these mask wearers were really concerned about their health uh why don't they hop on the treadmill

00:27:01.400 why don't they you know there's a lot of other things that could be so really it's not i it's

00:27:05.860 not about that i don't think it's just like well all the fatties you know wore masks during you

00:27:10.340 know covid because um because they needed it because they were more you know at risk no but

00:27:15.580 i i think it's more than that i think it also i think what you might have been getting at ad

00:27:20.020 maybe i'm off but is uh the type of person who seemed to fall for all these plays in 2020

00:27:26.060 was an unhealthy person that's right so it's not just they wore the mask as a defense because they

00:27:31.840 needed it because they're weak uh physically weak and susceptible and so they needed the the physical

00:27:37.160 protection of the mask whatever that would have been but it's like no they um mentally to get rid

00:27:43.000 the physical just mentally these people are of a different frame of mind these are weak-minded

00:27:47.680 not just weak-bodied but weak-minded people who easily are susceptible to every single play and

00:27:54.680 i think part of it has to do with the fact that yeah they're not christian they're not you know

00:27:58.040 but part of it also has to do with like they're they're they're eating poison yeah for breakfast

00:28:03.400 and they've always listened to the conventional wisdom from on high yeah about everything right

00:28:08.200 including their diet they've been told no this is a healthy diet that i'm eating i'm not doing

00:28:12.000 anything wrong. I'm, I'm, I'm eating low fat food, you know, things like that. I'm not, I'm

00:28:16.380 eating. Oh, I'm not going to touch any egg yolks. That's going to give me heart disease. Right.

00:28:20.180 And meanwhile, they're, they're over three bills. And, and it's like, no, that everything they told

00:28:25.580 you about nutrition and diet has been a lie. And what else are they telling you that you should do

00:28:30.580 that is also not true? Like you cannot trust any of this. We were talking before, like we, we, uh,

00:28:36.340 started recording about just the idea that eggs are bad for you and where that came from. I mean,

00:28:43.200 it came from the 1960s when Lyndon Johnson was president and there was a ton of inflation and

00:28:48.100 the price of eggs kept going up. And so he wanted people to stop buying eggs. So he said, oh, it

00:28:51.920 gives you heart disease. He had like FDA tell everybody to view eggs as the cause of heart

00:29:00.140 attacks. And then people stop eating eggs and egg prices go down. And that's remained with us for

00:29:05.580 like 50 or 60 years this idea that oh eggs are going to kill me if i eat eggs when they're like

00:29:10.960 the most healthy thing that human beings have eaten since uh you know since since adam is in

00:29:16.800 the garden right you know like so i'm sure there was a chicken there right laying eggs and so

00:29:21.740 anyway were you debating between since noah or wait no i think it was in my mind for a second

00:29:26.840 i'm like no you could eat eggs before the fall yeah and we could get into herman bobbing uh you

00:29:31.840 know, pre-lapsarian argument. I think meat was always going to be on the menu. I think so too.

00:29:36.060 Yeah, absolutely. But at any rate, like all of this is manufactured from the top down

00:29:43.540 and they give these dictates, like the food pyramid and eggs being bad for you and all

00:29:48.560 this kind of stuff. When you look at how human beings have lived throughout all time and it's

00:29:53.880 completely backwards and then you're told like, well, no, like you even have reports every once

00:29:59.700 in a while where it's like lifting weights is bad for you. That causes heart attacks. You don't do

00:30:04.140 it. And it's insane that this is pushed so hard on all of these people. And there's just this

00:30:10.820 implicit trust in the system that the system will take care of me. They will come up with some

00:30:16.520 magical Star Trek medical cure to heal me of whatever disease. I'll just get another,

00:30:23.120 I'll just take, I already take three dozen pills. I'll just take one more. And that's how people in

00:30:29.100 that mindset live their life right the danger of centralized power is often represented by the word

00:30:36.120 king as americans we hate the word king civilian ownership of body armor is about helping people

00:30:44.620 to have increased power to resist tyrants and criminals and so armored republic is about

00:30:51.580 helping you to preserve your god-given rights to the honor of the lord jesus christ because he is

00:30:57.100 the king of kings and he governs kings and he will judge them this is armored republic and in a

00:31:04.200 republic there is no king but christ we are free craftsmen and we are honored to be your armor

00:31:12.280 spread the choice so how what what do we do this is a question that i you know my wife and i have

00:31:30.720 talked through um what do we do as christian men who want to resource at the end of the day you

00:31:37.180 know we're going to be the head of our homes but our wives are going to be doing most of

00:31:41.700 the food type activities you know like like whether it's shopping or like you know as as men 0.90

00:31:47.420 are working to be providers out of the home the wife is managing the resources of her husband

00:31:52.400 within the home she's doing the shopping she's doing a lot of the cooking and those kinds of

00:31:56.160 things and my wife is making those decisions underneath you know my guidance but i'm trusting

00:32:01.060 her as viceroy of our home to make those decisions which are massive like what yeah what are our four

00:32:06.600 children going to eat you know and like it's a massive amount of responsibility now here's the 1.00

00:32:11.000 thing a lot of the resources out there that my wife could you know that are at her disposal 0.99

00:32:16.380 how do i disciple my wife in such a way that she can get good resources for diet for food for those 0.99

00:32:22.220 things without necessarily becoming a libtard right because you know what i mean so like how 0.65

00:32:30.840 so how do we as christians as christian men but then also with our wives encourage them to embrace

00:32:36.500 good healthy eating practices without becoming granola crunchy you know uh dreadlock you know

00:32:45.480 and move to portland yeah yeah i think some of those people um there's an there's enough disparity

00:32:51.440 in like the goals that you're after anyway that you're not going to go down all the same roads

00:32:56.620 as them because i mean a lot of them ended up being vegan and things like that um but i think

00:33:03.060 the few big keys is, all right, there's this, there's this compound that used to only be used

00:33:10.700 as a, you know, industrial by-product, uh, called, you know, soybean oil and corn oil.

00:33:16.400 And it was only used for paint thinner before we had latex paints. That's what it was used for.

00:33:21.160 And then they discovered, Hey, we can put it in food and replace, replace animal fat and butter

00:33:27.600 and things like that. And it's really useful. It's very stable. But to produce it, it's produced

00:33:34.800 at such high heat and it breaks down the fats. And I'm, you know, I'm not a biologist and I'm

00:33:41.300 not going to pretend to be one, but you know, these, these, you know, I think like omega six

00:33:47.080 fats, like they, they just, or omega threes, right. They, they attack your body and they,

00:33:52.080 they make um they make it extremely hard to lose the fat that you gain uh and um there's all sorts

00:34:00.460 of other problems with them um and so if you're able to excise those things from your diet but

00:34:05.580 if you go to the store and you look at the ingredients on everything it one of the first

00:34:10.280 two or three ingredients in in the box or on the jar of whatever you buy is going to be canola oil

00:34:16.820 vegetable oil corn oil soy oil and if you get rid of those things it's amazing like i that's what i

00:34:23.440 did i just went through our whole pantry and got the garbage can over i'm just like gone gone gone

00:34:29.720 miracle whip gone you know and and it's like oh well how are we gonna all the mayonnaise has

00:34:36.940 you know corn oil or soybean oil in it like how are we gonna have mayonnaise i'm like well

00:34:41.420 let's just go on the internet how do you make mayonnaise uh without seed oils and you get

00:34:47.880 avocado oil which is not a seed oil uh and you you put a you put a cup of that and an egg and

00:34:54.540 you put it through the blender and boom you have the best tasting mayonnaise you've ever had in

00:34:57.940 your life and and so like examples like that where or even better my favorite substitute for mayonnaise

00:35:02.920 is no mayonnaise i'm from the midwest uh joel that's not an option

00:35:08.240 you can't get rid of that as i mean the midwest but uh it is you know things like that where it's

00:35:16.580 like and it's simple this is how people used to live is they just wouldn't they wouldn't go to

00:35:19.780 the store to buy it they would take the whole ingredients and make the stuff and right and of

00:35:25.100 course there's more work right you have to make it every couple days it only stays fresh for like a

00:35:29.140 week uh but that should be a thing in your head like all right if the stuff that i buy at the

00:35:34.920 store doesn't stay fresh for very long it's actually good because if it's not going bad

00:35:41.560 what is in it that is keeping it from going bad right uh this is actually real food that i can

00:35:46.980 my body is designed to digest and process um so going through your your pain like getting rid of

00:35:53.300 seed oils and and just being intentional about like the food that you're going to eat that week

00:35:58.740 like what are we going to have a seed oil no no no there's there are oils in it yeah it's no it's

00:36:04.260 i've heard some people like i've seen some news you're like that moment you realize coffee is

00:36:09.060 no no coffee no coffee is is fantastic for that's the other thing too is like in losing weight i

00:36:17.060 drank a lot more coffee and a lot more caffeine yeah and it's it's it also like sates your

00:36:22.900 appetite right you're not um i was not as hungry as often drinking so much caffeine and and and so

00:36:29.100 like things like that though like if you if you make food like real food like today we're gonna

00:36:35.460 have a chicken and we're gonna roast the chicken in the oven we're gonna have some potatoes with

00:36:39.140 it and like that's our meal we didn't get anything out of a box we just made it ourselves that takes

00:36:45.240 time it's more work for her and for me when i cook but um it's it's a valuable investment in

00:36:51.080 time it's like oh i guess i get to watch one less episode of of you know something on netflix tonight

00:36:56.480 I, you know, I'd spent more time cooking. Oh, what a, what a tragedy. Right. You know,

00:37:00.280 like most people actually have way more time than they think they do to make, to make food.

00:37:05.120 And it's such a vital investment of time because I always tell people this same thing with like

00:37:11.000 working out. Like I'll spend, you know, an hour a day working out and that's a huge investment

00:37:16.180 of time. Gym costs money, all of these things like that. But it's like, I don't know when I'm

00:37:21.120 70 or 80 years old, am I going to be able to retire? Is there going to be any, is there going

00:37:25.280 to be an economy left when i'm 70 or 80 years old to retire into i'm gonna have to keep working the

00:37:30.420 rest of my life uh so i need to be healthy uh so the the time i'm spending now trying to be healthy

00:37:36.020 the money i'm spending on good food to be healthy um is an investment where i'm thinking down the

00:37:41.160 road you know 50 years from now it's always what keeps coming up is there's these trade-offs right

00:37:47.140 you're you're spending an hour a day to to work out and doing whatever you're doing um what you're

00:37:53.180 not seeing though, is the time that you're going to be spending, you know, at the dialysis office

00:37:58.240 or, or whatever, you know, whatever your ailments are. I mean, we all have, you know, grandparents

00:38:03.060 that they, they have a doctor's appointment every day. You know what I mean? And my dad right now,

00:38:07.560 every single day, every single day, they, they, they spend however much time it takes for them

00:38:12.100 to do that. Um, it's a trade-off, you know, you, you, I mean, obviously there's some situations

00:38:17.460 where you have to go but the time you take now is time that you're adding later right you know

00:38:23.620 what i mean and and i think and also the time that you spend now working out i mean even just

00:38:30.500 think about you know yourself you know before you start started losing weight um chances are

00:38:36.440 you were probably slower in everything that you did yes even waking up oh yeah even you know all

00:38:42.560 this stuff right this is all stuff that that you that you you took the trade off it really isn't

00:38:48.620 detracting anything from your day it's actually adding to your day yeah yeah you have more energy

00:38:52.480 during the day to do things yeah uh and you get things more things done even though you're spending

00:38:56.560 uh more time doing something else yeah right in lifting and working out yeah i'll say this

00:39:02.040 as a personal thing my my younger brother had a medical incident uh this this year and you know

00:39:08.280 i thought he was gonna die i really did um and he kind of had a a moment where he's just like

00:39:13.940 i'm i'm i'm dying you know what i mean if i don't do something about this i'm gonna be dead

00:39:19.580 and i'm gonna have my wife with my with the four kids all alone and all of this stuff and so these

00:39:25.940 are things that like even if you don't have an incident like that you don't want to like you

00:39:30.660 don't want to wait until you have an incident like that you know what i mean yeah absolutely

00:39:34.420 And like you said, the investment is worth it when you think about down the road long term.

00:39:41.100 Like I want to be able to, when I'm 70 or 80 years old, be able to go out hiking and go out doing things with my-

00:39:48.760 Throw a football with your grandkids, something.

00:39:50.320 Yeah, I want to be able to do stuff.

00:39:51.780 Yeah.

00:39:51.900 I don't want to be sick if I can avoid it.

00:39:55.220 Sometimes it's not in our power.

00:39:58.040 Of course.

00:39:58.560 You might be sick.

00:39:59.920 You might have a health incident that is not something you could have avoided, but a lot

00:40:03.920 of them are avoidable.

00:40:05.600 So many, so much of chronic disease and things like this is avoidable.

00:40:09.120 And, and we have this like, um, Gnostic impulse generally in the church where, um, where we

00:40:17.120 just don't care about that down the road. 0.67

00:40:18.660 It's like, well, heaven is my home, not the earth.

00:40:21.200 And so whatever my physical condition is, that's, you know, that's, that, that's whatever

00:40:27.160 i'm gonna have a new glorified body in heaven and that's my real body and it's like no like the the

00:40:33.120 flesh and blood body you have right now will be resurrected but this is your body that you have

00:40:37.380 that got the one that god has given you and you need to take good care of it uh not just for your

00:40:42.160 own sake but for the sake of your family and your children your grandchildren um i mean i don't think

00:40:46.940 that many people our age even even christians even like reformed christians think that often about

00:40:52.940 their grandchildren. Yeah. Right. That's such a good point. I mean, I'm thinking about my kids

00:40:57.420 all day long, but I'm like, I need to also be thinking, all right, this little person that

00:41:02.020 I'm disciplining right now, one day he's going to be me and doing the same thing I'm doing right

00:41:07.620 now. And I need to be in this moment, training him to be me. Right. Right. And, and it's the

00:41:13.160 same thing with, with our, our, our, our physical bodies, how we, how we eat and how we, how we

00:41:17.880 train. Um, I want to, to do it, not just to, um, be in great shape myself, but also lead my children

00:41:26.320 into that way of life, uh, for the sake of their children. And so that I can, I can see them as

00:41:30.820 well and, and grow up and they could grow up having a grandpa. Uh, and right now when you're

00:41:36.020 in your thirties, you don't think about that stuff at all. You know, you don't think about

00:41:38.440 your grandkids and, and the, uh, inheritance you're, you're going to give them. Um, you're

00:41:43.740 thinking about just making it through the day but uh but it's it's important and it's and it's it

00:41:49.520 flies right in the face of just the the gnostic impulse that that so many christians have to think 0.81

00:41:54.980 about long term what your life will be like in 20 or 30 years uh because it comes fast like you it's

00:42:02.640 it's also like the the um uh the hemingway quote you know you did from earlier like how did how did

00:42:09.720 you gain 400 pounds right um well first slowly and then then it all came suddenly it's like

00:42:15.920 all of a sudden i had to i had to buy size 42 pants and i didn't know where that came from

00:42:20.920 you know and and it's like are you like that's the big thing that hits you is when you have to

00:42:24.900 buy bigger and bigger clothes like oh honey i think you shrunk my shirt again in the dryer

00:42:29.040 i don't have to get some new clothes right and it's like no you just got fatter man like you

00:42:33.840 need to lose weight and and uh it comes on real slow and then all of a sudden you're huge and

00:42:39.320 you don't even realize it and and it's much slower to take it off and the older you get the harder it

00:42:46.060 is like when you're our age like every pound is is like hey can you when you're in your 20s it's

00:42:50.760 like oh i could lose 10 pounds in a week you know um but uh that is that i think is so so crucial

00:42:58.180 because it again like the physiological changes and the mental and emotional changes that happen

00:43:04.500 to you when you no longer are a bug man that can, that will crumple. Um, there, there was a,

00:43:12.300 you know, someone shared a video and went, went, ran around online, um, a couple of years ago where

00:43:17.860 there was this scrawny guy working at like a Lowe's and he's up on a lift and he's taking

00:43:22.620 something down. It's not super heavy, but like, um, it's a thing that like the three of us,

00:43:27.820 we would just pick up and put back on the shelf, but it's like falling on him. And he's, he's

00:43:31.740 screaming like a baby and and crying he's just a stick just you know uh chicken arms and chicken

00:43:37.280 legs and just whimpering and crying and like everyone around is laughing at him it's so sad

00:43:42.400 and i'm thinking like i know i'm thinking like oh if only you know he would pick up a barbell

00:43:48.740 like this would not have happened to him um and and and just the the attitude he had was just like

00:43:53.860 a helpless child like he was like he was five years old and and a bookcase fell on top of him

00:43:58.400 And it's like, and it's like, what is going on?

00:44:00.500 Why is, why, what, how can you live this way, man?

00:44:03.680 It's tied together.

00:44:04.620 And that's, that's what you're saying.

00:44:05.840 You know, we keep saying the word Gnostic and like Gnosticism, you know, at one level,

00:44:10.020 like at the root, you know, just to explain it for the listener, it's secret knowledge,

00:44:13.720 you know, Gnosis, right?

00:44:14.760 So this idea of secret knowledge, and there's usually an elite group that says, you know,

00:44:18.840 we're the enlightened ones and you can be enlightened too.

00:44:21.460 We'll show you the path, usually for a fee, you know, and that kind of thing, you know,

00:44:24.720 So we'll let you into this secret society that will give you this secret gnosis,

00:44:29.780 enlighten you so that you can know these things that everybody out there doesn't know.

00:44:34.520 But there's also an element of the Gnostics, whether it be like in the Apostle John, 0.91

00:44:38.440 and during his day, he really combats them in his first epistle, 1 John. 0.99

00:44:43.240 But a lot of the Gnostics in the first century, it was the secret gnosis,

00:44:47.200 but it was also they viewed the body as a prison.

00:44:49.820 They had a very low view of the body.

00:44:51.660 Now, this was the minority report, but I appreciate them because why not?

00:44:55.440 You know, if you're going to view the body as a prison, the minority report was like, well, then, you know, eat, drink, for tomorrow we die, right?

00:45:01.080 So just let's go hardcore and pleasure and we'll, you know, because ultimately it's like the soul is what's pure and undefiled, and the soul is going to be freed by the destruction of the body.

00:45:11.640 So most of them scourged the body, you know, so it was, you know, it was flogging, it was constant fasting.

00:45:18.520 and a lot of this even seeped into various you know portions of christianity or kind of like

00:45:24.240 neo-christian whether it be orthodoxy yeah exactly so you're sleeping on planks that have cracks

00:45:30.800 open in them so that the cool air you know will like so you're you're just miserable all night

00:45:35.220 long you know or like um you know so all these different things you know that you know uh that

00:45:39.860 you're self-inflicting pain beating down the body starving yourself and then the minority report

00:45:45.900 like i said they were like well we'll destroy the body the other way yeah so it's just indulging

00:45:49.840 yeah exactly so then that's where you know you get your you know michel uh you know what's his

00:45:55.020 michelle foucault i can't ever say michelle foucault you know it's just like well but you're 0.88

00:46:00.640 you're gonna get aids and die and he's like don't care don't care it's worth it sex is life so but

00:46:06.500 my point is all that is that matter is bad exactly matter is bad the soul the spirit is the only 0.98

00:46:12.920 that's good and and yet there's so much of the church that thinks that way and what you were

00:46:18.060 saying earlier uh it's not just that the guy is a beanpole you know and and a medium-sized box is

00:46:24.720 crushing him yeah it's also his reaction that he's crying yeah and and whimpering like a girl

00:46:31.280 and so and so my point is that like um even when it comes to pastorally with you know counseling

00:46:36.880 people um it's like i'm depressed you know i'm struggling with anxiety and he's like okay well

00:46:42.180 here's some bible we're going to go to the word of god the word of god is sufficient for all of

00:46:45.700 life and the word of god's gonna say i have no fear and the word of god's gonna talk about you

00:46:49.980 know cast your cares upon him for he cares for you uh the word of god's gonna it's gonna say all

00:46:54.180 these things but then the word of god is also gonna tell us um that well like go to sleep on

00:47:00.680 time yeah you know like like you're you you are a body like i i am way more at peace in my 30s

00:47:08.520 than I was in my 20s, simply just by having better habits, by having better diet, going to bed at a

00:47:15.440 better time, waking up at a better time, and also just having something to do, having a wife and

00:47:20.400 four kids and a job, you know, keeps me busy to where I don't have all this free time where I'm,

00:47:25.320 you know, doing introspection and navel gazing and thinking about, you know, all the, you know,

00:47:29.780 the deepest fears in the world. So all that being said, my point is, you can grow in mental

00:47:35.060 fortitude, you can grow in spiritual fortitude, but also growing in physical fortitude and being

00:47:42.220 not made of glass and like actually having grit, physical grit. A guy typically, now of course

00:47:51.540 there are exceptions, but typically a guy who has grit physically usually has some mental stamina

00:47:59.520 as well like he's not gonna easily you know you couldn't just run a psyop on him and he'd be

00:48:05.560 and yeah in 15 minutes like you'd have to you would have to try you know it'd be pretty tough

00:48:11.060 yeah well i think to to get the physical fortitude it takes mental fortitude to do that yes you know

00:48:17.580 what i mean it takes something in you to you know go to the gym for an hour every day and you know

00:48:22.440 and and this is the thing too like you know some guys will say oh it's ridiculous for you to

00:48:26.980 encourage christian men to go to the gym because you know gyms didn't exist back in in jesus's day

00:48:31.360 or you know i are or me and my friends you know we did actually but yeah okay there you go we'll

00:48:37.900 talk about that where did the word come from but um yeah but but but you know or me and my friends

00:48:43.400 you know we we work for a living we never hit the gym but we're plenty strong that's great yeah

00:48:47.420 that's great all that stuff takes mental fortitude too to go out and do a trades job every day yeah

00:48:53.540 But the reality for a lot of people today is that we sit behind a computer to work.

00:48:57.980 Right.

00:48:58.260 Yeah.

00:48:58.600 And so I'm not, if I'm sitting behind the computer, I'm not, you know, building a building.

00:49:03.640 I'm not doing that.

00:49:04.480 So the gym is actually important for me because otherwise I would just be sitting at a desk.

00:49:09.660 Right.

00:49:10.040 You know what I mean?

00:49:10.700 No, totally.

00:49:11.140 That's not what we're saying.

00:49:12.420 Yeah.

00:49:12.880 I've seen some of that online too, where it's like, well, you know, gym is worldly, like, you know, and exactly what you said.

00:49:20.280 Like, what if you're just working outside with a job?

00:49:21.860 Okay.

00:49:22.420 Great.

00:49:22.780 Great.

00:49:23.060 we weren't saying we weren't saying that the gym beats that we were talking to the average person

00:49:28.140 whose job is where you're yeah you're just sitting inside or you're studying for you know you know

00:49:32.880 you're reading you're writing my job right my job is um you know the the the greatest physical you

00:49:39.500 know uh risk that i run is is my hand cramping as i'm turning a page sure you know what i mean

00:49:44.720 like that's that's just the nature of my job and now that i have a son how is your workman's

00:49:48.680 policy. We don't have one. But now that I have a son, I'm thinking about starting a business and

00:49:54.780 not even for an extra stream of revenue or income, but some kind of business that has nothing to do

00:50:00.300 with ministry, whether it's like TV installs, like TV mount installs, or just assembling

00:50:08.340 trampolines every time somebody gets one. I'm thinking Christmas-like business that's seasonal.

00:50:13.180 Hang them up. But my thought is for it to be physical, and it's not even so much about the

00:50:17.440 income although i do want to teach them you know the economic side of it but the biggest thing is

00:50:21.620 just so that uh dad and son can go do some work together so we can go and do something physical

00:50:27.100 even if it's five hours a week or you know or maybe it's 15 hours a week but just during you

00:50:32.040 know one season a year but because because that means something and the but then the rest of the

00:50:36.860 year if you're 40 50 years old and there's none of that your your whole vocation is indoors that's

00:50:43.440 fine. We're not saying that that's not godly or that it's bad, but we're just saying, but then

00:50:48.380 you should make it up because if not, you're going to be a fat lard and you're not just going to be 0.94

00:50:54.080 a fat lard, but your physical fatness will become fatness of the soul. It is not divorced. You will 0.99

00:51:02.960 be lazy in soul. You will be lazy in spirit. You will be a slugger. The slugger puts, he digs his

00:51:08.820 hand into the dish but doesn't have you know enough you know strength to bring it back to

00:51:14.480 his mouth and you like it's not just oh here's the body here's you know here's my soul uh these

00:51:21.140 things they flow they flow back and forth and you see guys today who who are out of shape who are

00:51:28.280 are lazy in the physical realm um and you know what uh it's the irony is this uh as they're

00:51:34.920 combating us on on twitter uh you know what they're doing uh their theological arguments

00:51:39.620 are just as lazy as their gym habits it's laziness across the board they're theologically lazy

00:51:45.040 no and it makes me think about you know we we've i think mentioned a few times like the possibility

00:51:49.460 of a draft in world war three and things like that you know and and and even though the official

00:51:53.820 draft age like we're all older i think than uh than what it is right now but during world war

00:51:58.780 too they made it to like age 60 right uh you have like um what is the tom hanks d-day movie uh um

00:52:06.740 saving private yeah he gets drafted as a school teacher in his 40s right you know and it's like

00:52:11.060 that that really did happen um and i think about these guys and i'm like all right if there's a

00:52:15.660 draft would they take you to go fight right and if they wouldn't like you should feel bad about

00:52:21.740 that right like if you've made yourself so physically unfit that you couldn't go fight

00:52:26.060 for your country if it was being invaded um that's not good that's bad and i'll never forget there

00:52:31.940 was a time where uh a friend of mine um yeah i brought him to my gym and it was a just a real

00:52:38.320 basic uh workout but i wanted him to get you know start getting in shape i'm trying to you know

00:52:42.900 push him like yeah you need to get you need to get fit man and there were uh in the workout there

00:52:49.120 were box jumps right and you know you jump onto the box and those are always a little bit dangerous

00:52:55.340 because if you miss right you hit the corner of the box and just smash your shin like you walked

00:53:00.200 into a trailer hitch right right really really hurts well you know after a couple box jumps he

00:53:04.980 did that and um i'll never forget like he he started like whimpering and and like crying

00:53:12.740 like like at like a little girl and i'm and i'm telling my man stop that you're gonna embarrass

00:53:19.080 me in front of everybody don't do that stop stop and he like threw tears it's like i just don't

00:53:24.260 get why you have to pretend it doesn't hurt and i'm like dude because you're a man you're a man

00:53:29.940 that's why and i'm like in the moment i'm not thinking of like okay do i give them a bible

00:53:33.700 verse right but when when these guys make these arguments you know it's like the same thing it's

00:53:39.080 like well where in the bible does it tell me chapter and verse that uh that if i smash my

00:53:43.940 shin on a on a box jump that i can't cry like a little girl like where you know tell me where

00:53:49.120 being a man means not crying and pretending it doesn't hurt it's like that's that's what it

00:53:54.200 means to be amazing like being strong and courageous means right when something hurts

00:53:58.160 you don't let it show right you don't you you just tough it out and keep going and that's right

00:54:03.720 and and and i i just the thing i just never had to think about like no one ever was like

00:54:08.180 yeah but why do i have to pretend that i'm like well i've never thought about it you just do

00:54:12.240 yeah right you just have but there are reasons yeah it is it should be instinct for a man

00:54:16.760 and for a lot of us it has been instinct by the grace of god god's common grace even before we

00:54:22.160 were converted but for the record uh we can give chapter and verse and not chapter and verse

00:54:27.960 explicitly but we can look at the whole of scripture and we can apply the general equity

00:54:32.960 of certain principles in scripture and say well this is why um like one of the reasons why a man

00:54:39.080 shouldn't cry like a little girl is um if he's a husband and a father particularly one if he's not

00:54:45.620 a husband and father he should be trying to win a win a wife become one yeah right uh-huh and uh

00:54:50.300 women aren't attracted to a man who is crying all the time, but there's a reason. It's instinct,

00:54:56.540 but instinct, nature is, you know, grace restores nature, right? It doesn't abolish nature. And so

00:55:02.380 there are theological reasons for that. The reason why a woman doesn't want to 1.00

00:55:07.120 marry a crying, sniveling man is because she's looking for a provider and a protector. So she's 1.00

00:55:13.780 looking for strength, right? And the reason why a man who once he is married, you know, before

00:55:17.980 married he's trying to attract a woman so he wants to play the man once he is married and has

00:55:22.740 children same thing um like i don't want my children to know how how um i don't want my

00:55:30.440 children to know how bad things are yeah not yet yeah i'm not saying not ever but i'm going to

00:55:36.160 introduce my children to trash world yeah uh uh progressively over time as as they're ready yeah

00:55:43.240 right now and for the record for those who listen because i always get in trouble with this kind of

00:55:46.560 stuff you know i'll say like you know i even tell my children what time to uh you know when to go to

00:55:50.240 the bathroom people he tells his 17 year old son you know like they immediately assume that i gotta

00:55:55.880 go they immediately assume that because because they hate me you know uh you know they couldn't

00:56:00.520 possibly you know give it a you know you know good faith listening but anyways my kids are you know

00:56:06.240 five uh five four uh three and one so five four three and one um but with that it's like uh right

00:56:14.100 now the economy is horrible everything costs uh way more exponentially more than it did for my

00:56:19.920 parents oh it's almost impossible to own a home god has been gracious to us to where we do own a

00:56:24.920 home we got in right before interest rates started to skyrocket all those kinds of things um so so

00:56:30.240 god has been kind to us but right now the world is a mess economically it's a mess and uh when

00:56:34.880 when my wife and i talk about these things we don't talk about it in front of the kids

00:56:38.440 so all that back to the illustration of your friend crying and i just don't understand why

00:56:42.940 you know like if it hurts i can't show it uh for the same reason that that my wife and i uh there's

00:56:48.660 there's some moments where you know where we might feel like crying yeah uh things are so bad you know

00:56:53.260 but we don't we don't do that in front of the kids she'll do it in front of me yeah when the kids 0.56

00:56:57.100 aren't there if the kids are around even though she she's the weaker vessel she's my wife i want

00:57:01.520 to be compassionate i will take sweetheart yeah get it together yeah this this reminds me get it

00:57:07.080 together this reminds me of a time my um my pastor in college best pastor i ever had he um my wife's

00:57:15.700 best friend was getting married and they were having um the groom's dinner at a park and we're

00:57:21.420 we're sitting in this this beautiful park and gonna have a great time and then all of a sudden

00:57:25.780 of nowhere this massive thunderstorm comes and a tornado later touched down like almost where we

00:57:31.560 were and lightning is striking like like it's the artillery barrage and band of brothers and

00:57:37.400 like tree branches are falling down everywhere and i'm you know i'm maybe 22 years old and i'm

00:57:43.080 i'm losing it you know i'm like we're all gonna die we gotta get out of here and my pastor is

00:57:48.020 there and he has his teenage and pre-teen kids all five of them they're with him and he's just

00:57:52.660 as stoic as if nothing was going on he's just like okay honey why don't you get the car we'll

00:57:59.860 just sit right here and he was as calm as could be and i was like whoa that's a man yeah and he's

00:58:08.600 not and he wasn't like a huge bodybuilder like he was just he's you know he would he'd be the first

00:58:13.500 to tell you he's just a scrawny pencil yeah you know he's just like things are fine we're gonna

00:58:19.420 be fine kids just sit right here yeah just as calm as can be and it's like man i would follow

00:58:25.160 that guy into war oh yeah you know like i want him leading uh like that's a man like that's that

00:58:30.720 is the the masculine temperament you should have and it was just like such a contrast oh the trick

00:58:35.300 and the trick there is the trick there is that that guy was probably he was terrified he was

00:58:40.720 probably told me later he was terrified yeah he thought we were gonna die but you can't let

00:58:47.360 everybody know that right you know it's it's it's hard for my son to understand my eight-year-old

00:58:51.840 You know, he always wonders, how can I be courageous when I'm so scared?

00:58:57.220 Well, that's, but that's the point of courage.

00:58:58.780 That's how, that's how you do it.

00:59:00.380 It's like, you're, you're afraid, but you do what you got to do anyway.

00:59:03.840 Yeah, you just don't think about it.

00:59:04.720 Yeah, the fear doesn't go away.

00:59:06.780 Right.

00:59:07.260 That's right.

00:59:07.980 Yep.

00:59:09.040 Yep.

00:59:09.460 That's right.

00:59:10.020 Well, I guess we can land the plane with this one, but don't be fat.

00:59:13.620 Some takeaways, right?

00:59:14.580 So don't be fat. 0.99

00:59:15.360 Fat pastors, no bueno. 0.99

00:59:17.140 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0.97

00:59:18.100 Be strong and courageous.

00:59:19.100 Be strong and courageous.

00:59:20.600 Never say die.

00:59:21.840 you know stay dangerous yeah all of these be hard to kill yeah um and and don't be agnostic

00:59:28.460 and recognize that yeah we we want to be men who love the word of god who study you know meditate

00:59:33.840 upon the word of god day and night uh but we also um physical training it's funny you know people

00:59:38.920 would be like well physical training is a profit like profit yeah but it's it's of some value the

00:59:44.260 bible doesn't say it's of no value it's it's not no value physical training has value it has value

00:59:50.100 And the only reason why it's some is in comparison to godliness, which has infinite value.

00:59:55.060 That's the only reason why it says, you know, some is because it's a comparing and contrast in the context of that verse.

01:00:02.980 But it has a lot of, like, it has some value in the sense of not being on dialysis for 80 years has value.

01:00:11.220 Yeah, it's not ultimate value.

01:00:12.860 Right, it's not ultimate value, salvific, eternal with Jesus.

01:00:16.800 There's value.

01:00:17.720 But 80-year value, it has more value than at least equal value, wealth and health, right?

01:00:25.520 So the Bible doesn't promise them that we're not prosperity gospel guys, but wealth and

01:00:29.880 health.

01:00:30.020 You have to work for it, both of them.

01:00:30.540 Yeah, both of them you have to work for.

01:00:32.300 And are there exceptions?

01:00:33.640 Sure, you can get cancer at 30, even though you were eating right and working out.

01:00:39.320 And you can have economic disaster.

01:00:43.040 before you know but in both cases we would say as a man both in terms of health and in terms of

01:00:49.000 wealth we have people who are depending on us and we want to be a rock for them we want because

01:00:55.660 we're modeling and we know we're not a rock jesus is the rock none of this is idolatrous none of

01:01:00.200 this is replacing christ but we're emulating christ husbands love your wives as christ loves

01:01:05.540 the church my wife when she's looking to me i'm supposed to be representing christ in the same

01:01:10.200 way in a different way um but the same principle i'm i'm also representing uh god to my children

01:01:15.560 a father and uh and and so i want my kids especially in their younger years they should

01:01:21.500 implicitly at this age five four three and one my kids should implicitly think uh that there's

01:01:27.140 nothing that dad can't do and that if i'm ever in trouble just run to dad yeah right and that's good

01:01:33.500 that's right and that's going to carry on with them and i'm going as they age i i'm doing it now

01:01:39.240 but i will continue even more and more to just set their gaze and turn it from me more and more

01:01:44.240 to their heavenly father yeah and say now because as they get older my my oldest daughter when she's

01:01:49.740 seven or eight she's going to start realizing oh dad dad fails dad can't you can't and then and

01:01:56.100 but then but then i'll say yeah but he can't yeah he can't yeah but but the for the principle to be

01:02:00.660 ingrained from from the time that they were babies of like fathers are not weak and sniveling

01:02:06.800 fathers don't cry when they hit their shin yeah like like just the other day like a complete

01:02:11.620 opposite to that example you get but just the other day like uh i got something i can't remember

01:02:16.040 what it was but something like fell on me and hit me and the and the girls saw it yeah and they're

01:02:20.520 like oh dad oh yeah yeah yeah and and i just you know face like was just i'm still you know on

01:02:27.600 face like it's like i'm fine they're like how how are you fine yeah i would have cried for all you

01:02:33.280 how are you fine how are you not because they're thinking like they would have been in tears you

01:02:38.580 know and they and they would how are you fine how are you okay and but even then i was able to give

01:02:43.000 praise like do your good deeds before men that they may praise your father in heaven so i turn

01:02:47.220 it to the lord i said uh because god is a good god and he made dad as strong yeah that's good

01:02:52.840 that's why i'm okay you know i like that anyways yeah want to end there yeah no that's good i mean

01:02:57.820 i think we have an american audience mostly western civilization for sure people are watching

01:03:02.920 your show, physical strength is of some value. But if you're watching this show, you're an

01:03:07.840 American, it has a lot more value than you think it does. It's as simple as that.

01:03:12.040 The some value in the Bible is way more, because these are people that walked everywhere all day

01:03:16.980 and did hard work. We sit behind computers all day and don't. And so it's of more value,

01:03:25.820 relatively speaking. Absolutely.

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The NXR Podcast - February 02, 2024

THE FRIDAY SPECIAL - Why America’s Pastors Are Fat

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