The NXR Podcast - February 02, 2024


THE FRIDAY SPECIAL - Why America’s Pastors Are Fat

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Joel Webbon Harrison Smith Antonio Griffith Dale Partridge Wewsley Todd Calvin Robinson
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Teddy Roosevelt Greta Thunberg Lyndon Johnson John Eldridge Jesus Christ Lindy Joel Lowe
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God has made men to be men, to be distinct from women, to have testosterone and defined musculature, yet the average 22-year-old man today has the same testosterone levels that the average social security eligible man had a little over 20 years ago. Why is this the case? And why do we keep getting fatter?

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00:00:23 five-star review on your favorite podcast platform thanks god has made men to be men 0.83
00:00:31 to be distinct from women to have testosterone and defined musculature yet the average 22 year
00:00:38 old man today has the same testosterone levels that the average social security eligible man 0.74
00:00:43 had a little over 20 years ago all you have to do to see this in the most vivid way you can
00:00:49 is to compare what people look like today
00:00:51 to your parents' or grandparents' wedding photos.
00:00:54 The fattest person in those ruffled tuxedos
00:00:56 or bridesmaid dresses with puffy sleeves 0.99
00:00:58 would look emaciated by comparison today.
00:01:02 You also see this when watching footage
00:01:04 of people on the street or on the beach from 50 years ago.
00:01:07 Everyone had normal BMIs.
00:01:09 Obesity, much less morbid obesity,
00:01:12 was extremely rare.
00:01:15 Why is this the case?
00:01:16 Why are we so fat?
00:01:18 And why do we keep getting fatter?
00:01:19 we've mentioned a little bit already about how christianity has become so gnostic that we've
00:01:28 completely severed the spiritual from the physical and you know at the time of recording this there's
00:01:34 been some twitter spats online about biblical masculinity and guys are trying to say hey you
00:01:39 know what part of masculinity is physical vitality strength duration those kinds of things
00:01:47 um and then others are saying well you know again it's they can't speak in generality so it's like
00:01:53 but if i can find one man who's a godly man yes and you know and also happens to be a quadriplegic
00:01:59 then you know then i can say that masculinity has nothing to do your principle is invalid yeah
00:02:03 exactly which that's not the way it works but all that being said like we've become super gnostic
00:02:08 um meaning that you know we've severed the the physical from the spiritual the spiritual is all
00:02:14 that matters john eldridge gets a bad rap you know with like yeah exactly that kind of stuff
00:02:20 um but i just want to say from the outset as we go into this episode uh i think you know it's easy
00:02:26 for our antagonist to say well you know but uh you're you're not uh what you were you know saying
00:02:34 is the ideal you know like well you look like you could lose a few pounds yourself chubby you know
00:02:39 like you know and and i think like here's the whole thing um call it you know conservatives
00:02:46 the new right christian nationalists whatever you want to call it the guys who are advocating for
00:02:51 biblical masculinity to have teeth and for it to actually have tangible attributes like physical
00:02:56 strength and health and those kinds of things we're not doing that because um because it suits
00:03:01 us because it's convenient we're not making those kinds of arguments because we all have raging
00:03:06 six packs and because we all have this you know that let's speak for yourself right
00:03:10 we're doing it because we're saying no but i think this is the biblical ideal even though i
00:03:17 myself fall short of it that um that i'm actually going to you know so it's not there's a bunch of
00:03:23 young guys who are in fantastic perfect shape and it just it's convenient for them to say that you
00:03:29 know being in good physical shape is a part of biblical masculinity no we're saying despite the
00:03:34 fact that we too have been eating you know from the the trash world trough you know of soy and
00:03:41 all these different you know uh we but we recognize there's a problem with that there's a problem and
00:03:46 i don't know who said it probably a bunch of guys have said it but uh when i think of the physical
00:03:51 attributes of manhood i think like one way to sum it up uh succinctly is that a man should be uh he
00:03:57 should be hard to kill that like um that a man should be hard to kill it you shouldn't be able
00:04:02 to it's like okay like i'm not immortal i'm just a man um but if you want to hurt my family you're 0.94
00:04:08 going to have to kill me and it's not going to be easy yeah yeah so yeah no i i think um
00:04:15 your point is is such a good one it would be very easy for us to say the convenient thing 0.58
00:04:20 and quite frankly a lot of our detractors in this space are saying the convenient thing right yeah
00:04:26 they're fat and they're saying that that godliness has nothing to do with being in shape or even if
00:04:30 they're not fat they're not where they want to be right let's just say it that way yeah yeah um 0.96
00:04:34 but i think you know when when we're talking about these things we're looking at look there's a way
00:04:40 of life that quite frankly very few of us have lived in maybe none of us have lived um that is
00:04:46 better than our current way of life and so you know we recognize that that's step one and then
00:04:52 doing something about it is step two you can't just recognize you got to do something about it
00:04:56 and for different people it's going to look differently like not everybody's going to be
00:05:00 able to cut out or have the will to cut out seed oils instantly. But there are things that everybody
00:05:05 can do. And, and we're saying we should stay, we should, we should start that right now.
00:05:10 Right. Exactly. Yeah, absolutely. I, I, I think about, um, you know, where I was when I, I first
00:05:18 kind of went on, on the journey of, of discovering that things are not quite right
00:05:22 with, uh, the food we consume and, and just our, our, our lifestyle, um, what the lifestyle that's
00:05:29 expected where you're just stationary all day sitting in, in, uh, you know, less comfortable
00:05:34 chairs than these, uh, behind a desk. And I was, you know, I was, I was topping the scales at like,
00:05:43 uh, close to 310 pounds. And I need, this is not healthy. I don't want to, I don't want to live
00:05:49 this way. And I still would like work out, but I was, I was not in good physical condition.
00:05:55 And I realized like, no, I need to, I need to lose weight and it's hard. It's, it's hard when you just say yes to every food because who cares to be like, no, I'm going to keep it within this certain calorie limit and then do that for a year and, and have the willpower to, to continue living that way is extremely difficult.
00:06:15 it it's painful um sometimes but uh when when you lose weight and you get stronger uh at the same
00:06:23 time um and you're in better physical shape you can you can run longer uh with you have better
00:06:29 stamina you can run faster um all of those things you begin to feel you know like right now at 37
00:06:34 i feel better than i did when i was 25 um except you know my my knees and joints will ache a little
00:06:39 bit more yeah yeah yeah but like but physically i feel like i can i can do more i can i can lift
00:06:45 more. I can, I can run more. And, um, just the, the, um, psychological effect that that has on
00:06:53 you, uh, it, it changes you. It, it, it makes you more masculine. Um, and I mean, there's
00:07:00 physiological reasons for that too. Like, uh, you know, excess lipidity lowers your testosterone
00:07:05 levels and, and testosterone is, you know, we can joke around about it and, and, and laugh,
00:07:11 but it really is the the hormone that makes you masculine um and and so and it gives you you know
00:07:18 strength and confidence and all all these things and so you know even from the outset from the
00:07:23 what we read in the book um the fact that testosterone levels are so low today is not
00:07:31 random or an accident or anything like that it's that we've we've turned into the people like in
00:07:35 the movie wall-e where you're just you know it's sitting in your thing moving around and and when
00:07:40 the guy falls out he can't get back into his thing like the robots have to pick him up and
00:07:44 plop him back into it like that's that's that's our oh you know almost our way of life as it exists
00:07:50 now and that's not that's not how god built men to be um and you look at it and yeah you look at
00:07:57 like the the statues from antiquity and how the greeks viewed the ideal body type like uh
00:08:02 uh porphyris you know the spear carrier there's a there's one version of it in the um metropolitan
00:08:08 museum of art in in minneapolis in minnesota where i'm from and this guy's you know he's this
00:08:16 greek statue and he's strong and he uh and you see this and this was their ideal this is what a what
00:08:21 a man should look like and it's not as though we're taking and people the detractors would hear
00:08:25 that think like well you're that's a pagan understanding of what humanity is but all of
00:08:31 all people everywhere have, have viewed, okay, men should be strong and they should be capable
00:08:35 of, of doing violence if they have to. And, and you look at it today, like you have, you know,
00:08:42 these obese people that like you push them and they'll just tip over and like, that's in men
00:08:48 like that, that's not good. That's not good. You can't defend a family. Like Joel said,
00:08:52 you can't defend a family that way. If somebody just, you know, barely taps you and you, you
00:08:56 crumple uh you need to be able to defend your family especially today uh like the amount of
00:09:01 crime and and violence and and the direction things are going um you need to be able to um
00:09:07 be hard to kill right and and i you know so i realized that i i lose a bunch of weight and it
00:09:13 like drastically changes your whole mentality of of how you operate on even on a day-to-day basis
00:09:19 and this is one of those areas where it seems like conservatives have just kind of thrown in
00:09:23 the towel and you know just surrendered it to the left so like this and also you you think of the
00:09:29 environment you know so like there's a portion where you say like in the book you know like
00:09:32 we don't want to just eat cheeseburgers and burn tires in our backyard to own the lips
00:09:37 you know so like yeah um no like the environment is um that's not a leftist thing that's a
00:09:42 christian thing yeah and the leftist environmentalism is really fake right explain that for
00:09:47 a second yeah so i mean it really is this like top-down bureaucratic thing that they think oh
00:09:52 if we just replace all the light bulbs, that'll stop the world from destroying itself. You know,
00:09:57 like if we just do the tinker with these little bureaucratic things, you know, use paper straws,
00:10:02 that'll fix everything. And it's like, no, it doesn't. And it, and what it does, it's like a
00:10:07 typical liberal thing where it's like, you outsource any care you have about, about the
00:10:13 actual environment. You outsource that to other people that take care of it rather than no, like
00:10:18 i um i i pick up trash by the roadside and i take care of uh you know you know clean up parks and
00:10:26 things like that like i um and and um care about my immediate environment uh way more and you'll
00:10:32 you'll see that especially in like um that still exists in in like rural kind of blue collar red
00:10:39 state areas where you have all sorts of different hunting associations that really take care of the
00:10:43 land. And these are not people that have a high view of Greta Thunberg. These are people that
00:10:49 just want nice, clean waters to fish in and land to hunt in that they can walk through. It's not
00:10:57 full of trash and garbage. And even like the national parks, like creating national parks
00:11:03 was like this very right-wing thing. It wasn't like, yeah, okay, Teddy Roosevelt, he was kind
00:11:08 of this progressive but it was it was very much um a right-wing project we want to maintain these
00:11:14 places that are our natural beauties and wonders uh for posterity to to see we don't want them full
00:11:20 of strip malls and garbage everywhere um there's a there's a reason why like you don't have national 1.00
00:11:26 parks in third world countries right um there's just trash all over the place and those countries 1.00
00:11:31 are the ones that don't they don't care about the environment at all uh they don't have uh you know 1.00
00:11:35 well-ordered societies like like we used to so yeah also uh so that's you know on the environment
00:11:43 front back to food nutrition um now i've even struggled with this i'll confess you know for
00:11:49 myself on one hand like i think of you know okay in terms of hunger there's a lot less people in
00:11:57 terms of percentages there's more people in terms of you know overall numeric number uh way more
00:12:03 people in the world today than there was even just a short time ago um and yet percentage wise
00:12:10 there's way less hunger than there was a short time ago and so for you know for all three of us
00:12:17 we would prescribe to post-millennialism in terms of our eschatology um and we would see you know
00:12:22 like you know he comes to make you know his blessings flow as far as the curse is found
00:12:27 um pushing back on global hungry uh hunger and feeding people all those kinds of things
00:12:32 like so praise god for that but there's something to be said like okay but what what is uh what 0.51
00:12:37 constitutes food well and we and we have you know you almost said it we have global homo hunger 0.76
00:12:41 yeah now right and you're right i mean it's it's the same argument though where you could make the 0.92
00:12:48 same quasi post-millennial argument that well there's way more wealth now than there there
00:12:54 ever used to be so that must be good but we've we talked about this before that like the wealth
00:12:58 that we have is largely fictitious like yeah we have lots of consumer goods and things like
00:13:02 that and but that's come at a cost right it's always trade-offs destabilized our whole our 0.98
00:13:07 whole society you know sending sending women to work take you're destroying households all that
00:13:12 kind of stuff and yeah you get much more production but you you've eaten through the seed corn and
00:13:17 it's the same it's it's similar with food like yeah we produce way more food but is it the kind
00:13:22 of food that gives people you know healthy um you know healthy lives or is it the kind of food that
00:13:28 makes them fat and sick right um so it's like uh yeah it's i mean you can eat it and it will
00:13:35 satiate you uh not very well but it will satiate you um but it's not something that like in like
00:13:42 this kind of idealist post-millennial sense right we wouldn't have you know all of this acreage of
00:13:48 corn and soybeans everywhere we would have pastures where where cows are grazing and you
00:13:52 and you can you can do that it just it it's much less uh you make less money that way right you
00:13:58 you aren't maximizing maximizing the um the profitability of that acreage like you would
00:14:04 with corn and soybeans and feedlots and and so forth and and so the result is um ultimately
00:14:12 you know a diet that is is really unlike any in human history where people are fed like the the 0.69
00:14:20 baseline for human history is people are hungry like poor people are starving right um and now
00:14:26 all of our poorest people in america are are fat and diabetic you know and it's like you you
00:14:34 couldn't if you went back in time and this is a thing that i'd say a lot of the book like you go
00:14:37 back in time and you tell people 500 years ago yeah you know we've got a lot of poor people in
00:14:42 america and you know the biggest health problem they have is they eat too much food um they'd be
00:14:48 like that doesn't like you must be in some kind of paradise you must be living in the garden of
00:14:51 eden it's like no the food is like barely constitutes its food product and it's it's
00:14:58 all like corn oil and soy oil uh that that they're consuming and it's we basically feed all our poor
00:15:04 people paint thinner and they blow it up um and like oh that sounds even worse yeah all right i'm
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00:16:21 there's always trade-offs in these situations right so you get the calories that you need to
00:16:25 survive but it's simultaneously lowering your quality of life it's simultaneously killing you
00:16:31 almost well maybe not even almost it is killing you yeah yeah and it creates a um a passivity
00:16:38 in you as well yeah where i mean it's no surprise like people are always surprised about why did
00:16:44 everyone comply with covid i mean we're all like dying here right you know we're all like depressed
00:16:49 and dying and that's why people complied with that right yeah you know what i mean yeah and
00:16:54 they were engineered that way even with the food right yeah um i remember when i first realized
00:17:00 that the food pyramid was a scam yeah it's a big it's a big awakening for a lot of people yeah
00:17:04 yeah that was a big moment not only is it a scam but it's like inverted yeah right yeah yeah you
00:17:09 need fats you need animal fat you need red meat and you don't need carbs the whole thing was like
00:17:14 okay cholesterol you know having high cholesterol is really really really bad that's the you know
00:17:19 the leading thing uh for heart attacks and uh the thing that's going to give you bad cholesterol is
00:17:24 butter and bacon and fat you know eggs yeah these kinds of things steak uh red meat you know or at
00:17:32 least too much red meat yeah and so you know meats and those kinds and fats you know those kinds of
00:17:38 things are is what's going to give you you know bad cholesterol and that's what's going to give
00:17:41 you a heart attack but very little mention of sugar you know and so then it was like well the
00:17:46 thing that's good for you is grains you know so that's like at the bottom it's all these grains
00:17:50 but then what pasta all day long right fine yeah exactly yeah it's low fat but i feel terrible when
00:17:55 i eat pasta like you know and which we rarely do in the webbing household we eat meat and vegetables
00:18:00 and fruit and those but um and luckily i have a wife who helps to take care of us but with all
00:18:06 that the point is to say that like with uh with grains came sugar like yeah grocery stores all
00:18:11 of a sudden it became cereal cereal cereal cereal like all these things and in all of them was uh
00:18:18 because it's bland you know and so like and they wanted people to you know to come back and to buy
00:18:23 more and like so it turns out like you know the grains that you eat these things you know and
00:18:28 it's packed filled with sugar so that it'll actually you know sell off the shelf and it
00:18:32 doesn't satiate hunger the same way that you know meat or those kinds of things so then you have to
00:18:36 eat more of it you go back and you're getting you know more and more and it it does seem like
00:18:41 man this is just uh it's an economic scam it seems like it's just like a business trick you
00:18:46 know like we're gonna sell more product yeah like when i was um when i when i started losing weight
00:18:51 and and became very serious about it i paid way more for groceries than i did before i started
00:18:58 losing weight like my i'm i'm eating less but my food budget is going up because i was buying way
00:19:04 more meat um and eating other you know not not eating cheap garbage and it was crazy like i could
00:19:11 eat a whole steak and some eggs and like that's my all the food i need that day and i mean not
00:19:17 even hungry the rest of the day and it's like wow it's almost like god designed the world for meat
00:19:25 to satiate you and all of the bread and grains and all this stuff kind of just leaves you hungry
00:19:30 and wanting more a couple hours later um that's oh that's a reality like that's that's and that's
00:19:36 how people used to live and and it's it's funny like you have that like the the lindy principle
00:19:40 you know comes from nasim nicholas taleb um where things that have been around for a long time the
00:19:46 likelihood is they're going to be around you know at least that long or longer and you know if you
00:19:52 think about that like how did your great grandmother make food like what food did she feed your great
00:19:57 grandpa uh well he would wake up and he'd have bacon and eggs and if it was bread it was like
00:20:02 you know hand ground or like stone ground bread like you know things like that where it's not
00:20:08 you know wonder bread off the shelf you know things things of that nature where it took a
00:20:12 lot of work to make that food and it was and it was more expensive uh but it was usually meats
00:20:18 and a lot of fat and uh some you know some vegetables like that's what the diet consisted
00:20:24 of. And it was like whole ingredients. That's what you made. There was no store shelf of processed
00:20:29 food to eat from. And that's like a Lindy way of, of eating. And we've, we've gone away from
00:20:36 that completely. And there's all sorts of reasons why, I mean, mainly financial ones, um, that you
00:20:41 can make a lot more money if you produce boxes, you know, store shelves completely full of Cheez-Its
00:20:46 than if you're, you know, if you're just selling meat, right. There's a lot less money to be made
00:20:52 in that way. Um, and so that's, what's become of our, our diets is, um, it isn't just, I mean,
00:20:58 it's easy to like just demonize all fast food and junk food and, and pop other people call it soda,
00:21:04 I guess, um, uh, that, that that's, that's become the main component of our diet. And that's true.
00:21:09 It has, but it's, it's also because like real food that takes time to make. And a lot of people
00:21:15 don't have time uh but real food um is is so much healthier so much better for you and and if you
00:21:23 eat it like i i like making i really like french cuisine and that takes a lot of time usually to
00:21:29 make um and it's usually very rich lots of cream and butter like butter and everything like families
00:21:34 um from from churches we've been at would always say like oh if you go to the iskers to eat you're
00:21:40 gonna eat at least three sticks of butter uh with the food that you eat uh but i i'd eat this way
00:21:46 and i would lose weight it was the craziest thing you know like i'm eating lots of meat and lots of
00:21:51 fat and like wow but the scale keeps going down what's going on there and and it's because i was
00:21:55 eating real food uh really for the first time in my life and and all of a sudden right um my body
00:22:03 is adjusting to that i'm not as hungry anymore i have more energy throughout the day even though
00:22:07 i'm eating less food um and and you know i'm finally kind of reverting to the way that uh
00:22:15 the way that people have always lived and you begin to become much much healthier but it takes
00:22:20 a tremendous amount of like conscious effort to not do what everybody else is doing just to get
00:22:25 to like baseline of how a human being used to look a hundred years ago right um like you have
00:22:32 to go way out of your way just to have a normal physique from like the 1920s um and and that should
00:22:41 tell you something is messed up something is not right and you can have this you know pseudo
00:22:47 post-millennial argument well we're feeding all the hungry people and it's like yeah but we're
00:22:51 we're making everyone fat and sick and and ruining their lives giving them diabetes
00:22:57 and, and cancer and things like this. Um, and is that, is that the trade-off we want? You know,
00:23:04 is that the trade-off that you want to have in this post-millennial future? I don't think so.
00:23:08 So a lot of our food, it makes us fat, makes us sick. Um, but it also makes us gay, right? 0.94
00:23:13 They're turning the frogs gay. They're turning the freaking frogs gay. 1.00
00:23:16 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're here in Austin with, uh, 1.00
00:23:18 so I'm being a little bit facetious, but you know, it does seem like, you know, there,
00:23:25 there is a link between our diet and not just when it comes to obesity and not just when it
00:23:30 comes to, you know, health versus, you know, disease and sickness and diabetes, but also
00:23:36 testosterone levels, like what you eat, like can actually affect, you know, your testosterone and
00:23:42 lower those things. And so let me say this, you know, when, when, when we were in the middle of
00:23:46 the Wuhan flu hysteria, I don't know about you guys, but when I would go to the grocery store
00:23:52 or wherever i was was at you know there was always a little bit of instant camaraderie you had with
00:23:57 someone who didn't wear the mask you know what i mean oh yeah you'd always give them the other
00:24:00 what i've noticed though is that it was mostly men that didn't wear the masks and it was pretty
00:24:06 much always a pretty healthy looking guy yeah a guy that's in shape a guy that's in shape a guy
00:24:10 larger than i am you know like that kind of thing some women didn't wear masks too and it was
00:24:15 typically again healthy looking women right that that wouldn't do it yeah and so i you know i'm
00:24:22 wondering you know i don't i don't know the connection but i can i can probably assume some 0.91
00:24:26 of it um but it's just amazing to me because the people that look the least healthy typically
00:24:31 were masking up as if they're guarding their health yeah right yeah right you know what i
00:24:36 mean well it's the same thing with like the the um can we say that you can say whatever the uh
00:24:43 the experimental medical treatment. It's the same thing where a lot of it too with health is you
00:24:50 don't, and fitness and all of this is, it's like, well, if I blimp up to 400 pounds, whatever,
00:24:57 but I can just take a pill or I can just get a vaccine or I can just have some external thing
00:25:03 that happens. If I get so obese, I can't sleep right and get sleep apnea. I can just put on the
00:25:08 sleep apnea mask and I'll sleep again. Like we haven't, I mean, healthcare in America is nearly
00:25:13 20% of the GDP. So going to the hospital, pharmaceuticals, all of that is like one out
00:25:19 of every $5 of things that are produced in America goes to that. And so there are all of these
00:25:26 different things that treat these symptoms rather than the main underlying thing, which is our food
00:25:31 is killing us and but the the issue there is it's way easier to just eat a whole box of cheese it's
00:25:39 than it is to you know cook a small steak and then have that as your dinner uh it's way easier
00:25:44 more convenient and it and it and and people like it yeah people people like living this way um
00:25:50 because they get comfort out of their they're depressed and so they eat more and they get
00:25:54 comfort from their food. And, and so rather than having people, you know, have willpower and,
00:26:01 and discipline, just eat as much as you want. And we'll, we'll come up with some medical solution
00:26:07 to take care of it afterward. And the, and the masks and the vaccine, I think are part of that,
00:26:13 that whole thing. It's like, well, I'll just take some more pills or I'll just, I'll just do this
00:26:17 and I'll just wear the mask. That'll protect my health rather than, oh, I should spend the next
00:26:21 year losing 100 pounds and going to the gym every day and working out really hard uh that'll help
00:26:27 my health uh well that's not even a consideration just throw on a little piece of cloth the main
00:26:32 things that were shut down during the lockdowns were churches and gyms so it was never really
00:26:36 about health and you know like if somebody was trying to play the devil's advocate when you're
00:26:40 like hey the healthy people are the ones who weren't wearing a mask and you know i could just
00:26:43 imagine you know somebody you know saying well well no duh you know the lowest risk yeah they
00:26:48 have a lowest risk factor and so it's the people who aren't healthy that would wear the mask to
00:26:52 protect them and stuff it's like yeah but but if they were really concerned about you know if all
00:26:56 these mask wearers were really concerned about their health uh why don't they hop on the treadmill
00:27:01 why don't they you know there's a lot of other things that could be so really it's not i it's
00:27:05 not about that i don't think it's just like well all the fatties you know wore masks during you
00:27:10 know covid because um because they needed it because they were more you know at risk no but
00:27:15 i i think it's more than that i think it also i think what you might have been getting at ad
00:27:20 maybe i'm off but is uh the type of person who seemed to fall for all these plays in 2020
00:27:26 was an unhealthy person that's right so it's not just they wore the mask as a defense because they
00:27:31 needed it because they're weak uh physically weak and susceptible and so they needed the the physical
00:27:37 protection of the mask whatever that would have been but it's like no they um mentally to get rid
00:27:43 the physical just mentally these people are of a different frame of mind these are weak-minded
00:27:47 not just weak-bodied but weak-minded people who easily are susceptible to every single play and
00:27:54 i think part of it has to do with the fact that yeah they're not christian they're not you know
00:27:58 but part of it also has to do with like they're they're they're eating poison yeah for breakfast
00:28:03 and they've always listened to the conventional wisdom from on high yeah about everything right
00:28:08 including their diet they've been told no this is a healthy diet that i'm eating i'm not doing
00:28:12 anything wrong. I'm, I'm, I'm eating low fat food, you know, things like that. I'm not, I'm
00:28:16 eating. Oh, I'm not going to touch any egg yolks. That's going to give me heart disease. Right.
00:28:20 And meanwhile, they're, they're over three bills. And, and it's like, no, that everything they told
00:28:25 you about nutrition and diet has been a lie. And what else are they telling you that you should do
00:28:30 that is also not true? Like you cannot trust any of this. We were talking before, like we, we, uh,
00:28:36 started recording about just the idea that eggs are bad for you and where that came from. I mean,
00:28:43 it came from the 1960s when Lyndon Johnson was president and there was a ton of inflation and
00:28:48 the price of eggs kept going up. And so he wanted people to stop buying eggs. So he said, oh, it
00:28:51 gives you heart disease. He had like FDA tell everybody to view eggs as the cause of heart
00:29:00 attacks. And then people stop eating eggs and egg prices go down. And that's remained with us for
00:29:05 like 50 or 60 years this idea that oh eggs are going to kill me if i eat eggs when they're like
00:29:10 the most healthy thing that human beings have eaten since uh you know since since adam is in
00:29:16 the garden right you know like so i'm sure there was a chicken there right laying eggs and so
00:29:21 anyway were you debating between since noah or wait no i think it was in my mind for a second
00:29:26 i'm like no you could eat eggs before the fall yeah and we could get into herman bobbing uh you
00:29:31 know, pre-lapsarian argument. I think meat was always going to be on the menu. I think so too.
00:29:36 Yeah, absolutely. But at any rate, like all of this is manufactured from the top down
00:29:43 and they give these dictates, like the food pyramid and eggs being bad for you and all
00:29:48 this kind of stuff. When you look at how human beings have lived throughout all time and it's
00:29:53 completely backwards and then you're told like, well, no, like you even have reports every once
00:29:59 in a while where it's like lifting weights is bad for you. That causes heart attacks. You don't do
00:30:04 it. And it's insane that this is pushed so hard on all of these people. And there's just this
00:30:10 implicit trust in the system that the system will take care of me. They will come up with some
00:30:16 magical Star Trek medical cure to heal me of whatever disease. I'll just get another,
00:30:23 I'll just take, I already take three dozen pills. I'll just take one more. And that's how people in
00:30:29 that mindset live their life right the danger of centralized power is often represented by the word
00:30:36 king as americans we hate the word king civilian ownership of body armor is about helping people
00:30:44 to have increased power to resist tyrants and criminals and so armored republic is about
00:30:51 helping you to preserve your god-given rights to the honor of the lord jesus christ because he is
00:30:57 the king of kings and he governs kings and he will judge them this is armored republic and in a
00:31:04 republic there is no king but christ we are free craftsmen and we are honored to be your armor
00:31:12 spread the choice so how what what do we do this is a question that i you know my wife and i have
00:31:30 talked through um what do we do as christian men who want to resource at the end of the day you
00:31:37 know we're going to be the head of our homes but our wives are going to be doing most of
00:31:41 the food type activities you know like like whether it's shopping or like you know as as men 0.90
00:31:47 are working to be providers out of the home the wife is managing the resources of her husband
00:31:52 within the home she's doing the shopping she's doing a lot of the cooking and those kinds of
00:31:56 things and my wife is making those decisions underneath you know my guidance but i'm trusting
00:32:01 her as viceroy of our home to make those decisions which are massive like what yeah what are our four
00:32:06 children going to eat you know and like it's a massive amount of responsibility now here's the 1.00
00:32:11 thing a lot of the resources out there that my wife could you know that are at her disposal 0.99
00:32:16 how do i disciple my wife in such a way that she can get good resources for diet for food for those 0.99
00:32:22 things without necessarily becoming a libtard right because you know what i mean so like how 0.65
00:32:30 so how do we as christians as christian men but then also with our wives encourage them to embrace
00:32:36 good healthy eating practices without becoming granola crunchy you know uh dreadlock you know
00:32:45 and move to portland yeah yeah i think some of those people um there's an there's enough disparity
00:32:51 in like the goals that you're after anyway that you're not going to go down all the same roads
00:32:56 as them because i mean a lot of them ended up being vegan and things like that um but i think
00:33:03 the few big keys is, all right, there's this, there's this compound that used to only be used
00:33:10 as a, you know, industrial by-product, uh, called, you know, soybean oil and corn oil.
00:33:16 And it was only used for paint thinner before we had latex paints. That's what it was used for.
00:33:21 And then they discovered, Hey, we can put it in food and replace, replace animal fat and butter
00:33:27 and things like that. And it's really useful. It's very stable. But to produce it, it's produced
00:33:34 at such high heat and it breaks down the fats. And I'm, you know, I'm not a biologist and I'm
00:33:41 not going to pretend to be one, but you know, these, these, you know, I think like omega six
00:33:47 fats, like they, they just, or omega threes, right. They, they attack your body and they,
00:33:52 they make um they make it extremely hard to lose the fat that you gain uh and um there's all sorts
00:34:00 of other problems with them um and so if you're able to excise those things from your diet but
00:34:05 if you go to the store and you look at the ingredients on everything it one of the first
00:34:10 two or three ingredients in in the box or on the jar of whatever you buy is going to be canola oil
00:34:16 vegetable oil corn oil soy oil and if you get rid of those things it's amazing like i that's what i
00:34:23 did i just went through our whole pantry and got the garbage can over i'm just like gone gone gone
00:34:29 miracle whip gone you know and and it's like oh well how are we gonna all the mayonnaise has
00:34:36 you know corn oil or soybean oil in it like how are we gonna have mayonnaise i'm like well
00:34:41 let's just go on the internet how do you make mayonnaise uh without seed oils and you get
00:34:47 avocado oil which is not a seed oil uh and you you put a you put a cup of that and an egg and
00:34:54 you put it through the blender and boom you have the best tasting mayonnaise you've ever had in
00:34:57 your life and and so like examples like that where or even better my favorite substitute for mayonnaise
00:35:02 is no mayonnaise i'm from the midwest uh joel that's not an option
00:35:08 you can't get rid of that as i mean the midwest but uh it is you know things like that where it's
00:35:16 like and it's simple this is how people used to live is they just wouldn't they wouldn't go to
00:35:19 the store to buy it they would take the whole ingredients and make the stuff and right and of
00:35:25 course there's more work right you have to make it every couple days it only stays fresh for like a
00:35:29 week uh but that should be a thing in your head like all right if the stuff that i buy at the
00:35:34 store doesn't stay fresh for very long it's actually good because if it's not going bad
00:35:41 what is in it that is keeping it from going bad right uh this is actually real food that i can
00:35:46 my body is designed to digest and process um so going through your your pain like getting rid of
00:35:53 seed oils and and just being intentional about like the food that you're going to eat that week
00:35:58 like what are we going to have a seed oil no no no there's there are oils in it yeah it's no it's
00:36:04 i've heard some people like i've seen some news you're like that moment you realize coffee is
00:36:09 no no coffee no coffee is is fantastic for that's the other thing too is like in losing weight i
00:36:17 drank a lot more coffee and a lot more caffeine yeah and it's it's it also like sates your
00:36:22 appetite right you're not um i was not as hungry as often drinking so much caffeine and and and so
00:36:29 like things like that though like if you if you make food like real food like today we're gonna
00:36:35 have a chicken and we're gonna roast the chicken in the oven we're gonna have some potatoes with
00:36:39 it and like that's our meal we didn't get anything out of a box we just made it ourselves that takes
00:36:45 time it's more work for her and for me when i cook but um it's it's a valuable investment in
00:36:51 time it's like oh i guess i get to watch one less episode of of you know something on netflix tonight
00:36:56 I, you know, I'd spent more time cooking. Oh, what a, what a tragedy. Right. You know,
00:37:00 like most people actually have way more time than they think they do to make, to make food.
00:37:05 And it's such a vital investment of time because I always tell people this same thing with like
00:37:11 working out. Like I'll spend, you know, an hour a day working out and that's a huge investment
00:37:16 of time. Gym costs money, all of these things like that. But it's like, I don't know when I'm
00:37:21 70 or 80 years old, am I going to be able to retire? Is there going to be any, is there going
00:37:25 to be an economy left when i'm 70 or 80 years old to retire into i'm gonna have to keep working the
00:37:30 rest of my life uh so i need to be healthy uh so the the time i'm spending now trying to be healthy
00:37:36 the money i'm spending on good food to be healthy um is an investment where i'm thinking down the
00:37:41 road you know 50 years from now it's always what keeps coming up is there's these trade-offs right
00:37:47 you're you're spending an hour a day to to work out and doing whatever you're doing um what you're
00:37:53 not seeing though, is the time that you're going to be spending, you know, at the dialysis office
00:37:58 or, or whatever, you know, whatever your ailments are. I mean, we all have, you know, grandparents
00:38:03 that they, they have a doctor's appointment every day. You know what I mean? And my dad right now,
00:38:07 every single day, every single day, they, they, they spend however much time it takes for them
00:38:12 to do that. Um, it's a trade-off, you know, you, you, I mean, obviously there's some situations
00:38:17 where you have to go but the time you take now is time that you're adding later right you know
00:38:23 what i mean and and i think and also the time that you spend now working out i mean even just
00:38:30 think about you know yourself you know before you start started losing weight um chances are
00:38:36 you were probably slower in everything that you did yes even waking up oh yeah even you know all
00:38:42 this stuff right this is all stuff that that you that you you took the trade off it really isn't
00:38:48 detracting anything from your day it's actually adding to your day yeah yeah you have more energy
00:38:52 during the day to do things yeah uh and you get things more things done even though you're spending
00:38:56 uh more time doing something else yeah right in lifting and working out yeah i'll say this
00:39:02 as a personal thing my my younger brother had a medical incident uh this this year and you know
00:39:08 i thought he was gonna die i really did um and he kind of had a a moment where he's just like
00:39:13 i'm i'm i'm dying you know what i mean if i don't do something about this i'm gonna be dead
00:39:19 and i'm gonna have my wife with my with the four kids all alone and all of this stuff and so these
00:39:25 are things that like even if you don't have an incident like that you don't want to like you
00:39:30 don't want to wait until you have an incident like that you know what i mean yeah absolutely
00:39:34 And like you said, the investment is worth it when you think about down the road long term.
00:39:41 Like I want to be able to, when I'm 70 or 80 years old, be able to go out hiking and go out doing things with my-
00:39:48 Throw a football with your grandkids, something.
00:39:50 Yeah, I want to be able to do stuff.
00:39:51 Yeah.
00:39:51 I don't want to be sick if I can avoid it.
00:39:55 Sometimes it's not in our power.
00:39:58 Of course.
00:39:58 You might be sick.
00:39:59 You might have a health incident that is not something you could have avoided, but a lot
00:40:03 of them are avoidable.
00:40:05 So many, so much of chronic disease and things like this is avoidable.
00:40:09 And, and we have this like, um, Gnostic impulse generally in the church where, um, where we
00:40:17 just don't care about that down the road. 0.67
00:40:18 It's like, well, heaven is my home, not the earth.
00:40:21 And so whatever my physical condition is, that's, you know, that's, that, that's whatever
00:40:27 i'm gonna have a new glorified body in heaven and that's my real body and it's like no like the the
00:40:33 flesh and blood body you have right now will be resurrected but this is your body that you have
00:40:37 that got the one that god has given you and you need to take good care of it uh not just for your
00:40:42 own sake but for the sake of your family and your children your grandchildren um i mean i don't think
00:40:46 that many people our age even even christians even like reformed christians think that often about
00:40:52 their grandchildren. Yeah. Right. That's such a good point. I mean, I'm thinking about my kids
00:40:57 all day long, but I'm like, I need to also be thinking, all right, this little person that
00:41:02 I'm disciplining right now, one day he's going to be me and doing the same thing I'm doing right
00:41:07 now. And I need to be in this moment, training him to be me. Right. Right. And, and it's the
00:41:13 same thing with, with our, our, our, our physical bodies, how we, how we eat and how we, how we
00:41:17 train. Um, I want to, to do it, not just to, um, be in great shape myself, but also lead my children
00:41:26 into that way of life, uh, for the sake of their children. And so that I can, I can see them as
00:41:30 well and, and grow up and they could grow up having a grandpa. Uh, and right now when you're
00:41:36 in your thirties, you don't think about that stuff at all. You know, you don't think about
00:41:38 your grandkids and, and the, uh, inheritance you're, you're going to give them. Um, you're
00:41:43 thinking about just making it through the day but uh but it's it's important and it's and it's it
00:41:49 flies right in the face of just the the gnostic impulse that that so many christians have to think 0.81
00:41:54 about long term what your life will be like in 20 or 30 years uh because it comes fast like you it's
00:42:02 it's also like the the um uh the hemingway quote you know you did from earlier like how did how did
00:42:09 you gain 400 pounds right um well first slowly and then then it all came suddenly it's like
00:42:15 all of a sudden i had to i had to buy size 42 pants and i didn't know where that came from
00:42:20 you know and and it's like are you like that's the big thing that hits you is when you have to
00:42:24 buy bigger and bigger clothes like oh honey i think you shrunk my shirt again in the dryer
00:42:29 i don't have to get some new clothes right and it's like no you just got fatter man like you
00:42:33 need to lose weight and and uh it comes on real slow and then all of a sudden you're huge and
00:42:39 you don't even realize it and and it's much slower to take it off and the older you get the harder it
00:42:46 is like when you're our age like every pound is is like hey can you when you're in your 20s it's
00:42:50 like oh i could lose 10 pounds in a week you know um but uh that is that i think is so so crucial
00:42:58 because it again like the physiological changes and the mental and emotional changes that happen
00:43:04 to you when you no longer are a bug man that can, that will crumple. Um, there, there was a,
00:43:12 you know, someone shared a video and went, went, ran around online, um, a couple of years ago where
00:43:17 there was this scrawny guy working at like a Lowe's and he's up on a lift and he's taking
00:43:22 something down. It's not super heavy, but like, um, it's a thing that like the three of us,
00:43:27 we would just pick up and put back on the shelf, but it's like falling on him. And he's, he's
00:43:31 screaming like a baby and and crying he's just a stick just you know uh chicken arms and chicken
00:43:37 legs and just whimpering and crying and like everyone around is laughing at him it's so sad
00:43:42 and i'm thinking like i know i'm thinking like oh if only you know he would pick up a barbell
00:43:48 like this would not have happened to him um and and and just the the attitude he had was just like
00:43:53 a helpless child like he was like he was five years old and and a bookcase fell on top of him
00:43:58 And it's like, and it's like, what is going on?
00:44:00 Why is, why, what, how can you live this way, man?
00:44:03 It's tied together.
00:44:04 And that's, that's what you're saying.
00:44:05 You know, we keep saying the word Gnostic and like Gnosticism, you know, at one level,
00:44:10 like at the root, you know, just to explain it for the listener, it's secret knowledge,
00:44:13 you know, Gnosis, right?
00:44:14 So this idea of secret knowledge, and there's usually an elite group that says, you know,
00:44:18 we're the enlightened ones and you can be enlightened too.
00:44:21 We'll show you the path, usually for a fee, you know, and that kind of thing, you know,
00:44:24 So we'll let you into this secret society that will give you this secret gnosis,
00:44:29 enlighten you so that you can know these things that everybody out there doesn't know.
00:44:34 But there's also an element of the Gnostics, whether it be like in the Apostle John, 0.91
00:44:38 and during his day, he really combats them in his first epistle, 1 John. 0.99
00:44:43 But a lot of the Gnostics in the first century, it was the secret gnosis,
00:44:47 but it was also they viewed the body as a prison.
00:44:49 They had a very low view of the body.
00:44:51 Now, this was the minority report, but I appreciate them because why not?
00:44:55 You know, if you're going to view the body as a prison, the minority report was like, well, then, you know, eat, drink, for tomorrow we die, right?
00:45:01 So just let's go hardcore and pleasure and we'll, you know, because ultimately it's like the soul is what's pure and undefiled, and the soul is going to be freed by the destruction of the body.
00:45:11 So most of them scourged the body, you know, so it was, you know, it was flogging, it was constant fasting.
00:45:18 and a lot of this even seeped into various you know portions of christianity or kind of like
00:45:24 neo-christian whether it be orthodoxy yeah exactly so you're sleeping on planks that have cracks
00:45:30 open in them so that the cool air you know will like so you're you're just miserable all night
00:45:35 long you know or like um you know so all these different things you know that you know uh that
00:45:39 you're self-inflicting pain beating down the body starving yourself and then the minority report
00:45:45 like i said they were like well we'll destroy the body the other way yeah so it's just indulging
00:45:49 yeah exactly so then that's where you know you get your you know michel uh you know what's his
00:45:55 michelle foucault i can't ever say michelle foucault you know it's just like well but you're 0.88
00:46:00 you're gonna get aids and die and he's like don't care don't care it's worth it sex is life so but
00:46:06 my point is all that is that matter is bad exactly matter is bad the soul the spirit is the only 0.98
00:46:12 that's good and and yet there's so much of the church that thinks that way and what you were
00:46:18 saying earlier uh it's not just that the guy is a beanpole you know and and a medium-sized box is
00:46:24 crushing him yeah it's also his reaction that he's crying yeah and and whimpering like a girl
00:46:31 and so and so my point is that like um even when it comes to pastorally with you know counseling
00:46:36 people um it's like i'm depressed you know i'm struggling with anxiety and he's like okay well
00:46:42 here's some bible we're going to go to the word of god the word of god is sufficient for all of
00:46:45 life and the word of god's gonna say i have no fear and the word of god's gonna talk about you
00:46:49 know cast your cares upon him for he cares for you uh the word of god's gonna it's gonna say all
00:46:54 these things but then the word of god is also gonna tell us um that well like go to sleep on
00:47:00 time yeah you know like like you're you you are a body like i i am way more at peace in my 30s
00:47:08 than I was in my 20s, simply just by having better habits, by having better diet, going to bed at a
00:47:15 better time, waking up at a better time, and also just having something to do, having a wife and
00:47:20 four kids and a job, you know, keeps me busy to where I don't have all this free time where I'm,
00:47:25 you know, doing introspection and navel gazing and thinking about, you know, all the, you know,
00:47:29 the deepest fears in the world. So all that being said, my point is, you can grow in mental
00:47:35 fortitude, you can grow in spiritual fortitude, but also growing in physical fortitude and being
00:47:42 not made of glass and like actually having grit, physical grit. A guy typically, now of course
00:47:51 there are exceptions, but typically a guy who has grit physically usually has some mental stamina
00:47:59 as well like he's not gonna easily you know you couldn't just run a psyop on him and he'd be
00:48:05 and yeah in 15 minutes like you'd have to you would have to try you know it'd be pretty tough
00:48:11 yeah well i think to to get the physical fortitude it takes mental fortitude to do that yes you know
00:48:17 what i mean it takes something in you to you know go to the gym for an hour every day and you know
00:48:22 and and this is the thing too like you know some guys will say oh it's ridiculous for you to
00:48:26 encourage christian men to go to the gym because you know gyms didn't exist back in in jesus's day
00:48:31 or you know i are or me and my friends you know we did actually but yeah okay there you go we'll
00:48:37 talk about that where did the word come from but um yeah but but but you know or me and my friends
00:48:43 you know we we work for a living we never hit the gym but we're plenty strong that's great yeah
00:48:47 that's great all that stuff takes mental fortitude too to go out and do a trades job every day yeah
00:48:53 But the reality for a lot of people today is that we sit behind a computer to work.
00:48:57 Right.
00:48:58 Yeah.
00:48:58 And so I'm not, if I'm sitting behind the computer, I'm not, you know, building a building.
00:49:03 I'm not doing that.
00:49:04 So the gym is actually important for me because otherwise I would just be sitting at a desk.
00:49:09 Right.
00:49:10 You know what I mean?
00:49:10 No, totally.
00:49:11 That's not what we're saying.
00:49:12 Yeah.
00:49:12 I've seen some of that online too, where it's like, well, you know, gym is worldly, like, you know, and exactly what you said.
00:49:20 Like, what if you're just working outside with a job?
00:49:21 Okay.
00:49:22 Great.
00:49:22 Great.
00:49:23 we weren't saying we weren't saying that the gym beats that we were talking to the average person
00:49:28 whose job is where you're yeah you're just sitting inside or you're studying for you know you know
00:49:32 you're reading you're writing my job right my job is um you know the the the greatest physical you
00:49:39 know uh risk that i run is is my hand cramping as i'm turning a page sure you know what i mean
00:49:44 like that's that's just the nature of my job and now that i have a son how is your workman's
00:49:48 policy. We don't have one. But now that I have a son, I'm thinking about starting a business and
00:49:54 not even for an extra stream of revenue or income, but some kind of business that has nothing to do
00:50:00 with ministry, whether it's like TV installs, like TV mount installs, or just assembling
00:50:08 trampolines every time somebody gets one. I'm thinking Christmas-like business that's seasonal.
00:50:13 Hang them up. But my thought is for it to be physical, and it's not even so much about the
00:50:17 income although i do want to teach them you know the economic side of it but the biggest thing is
00:50:21 just so that uh dad and son can go do some work together so we can go and do something physical
00:50:27 even if it's five hours a week or you know or maybe it's 15 hours a week but just during you
00:50:32 know one season a year but because because that means something and the but then the rest of the
00:50:36 year if you're 40 50 years old and there's none of that your your whole vocation is indoors that's
00:50:43 fine. We're not saying that that's not godly or that it's bad, but we're just saying, but then
00:50:48 you should make it up because if not, you're going to be a fat lard and you're not just going to be 0.94
00:50:54 a fat lard, but your physical fatness will become fatness of the soul. It is not divorced. You will 0.99
00:51:02 be lazy in soul. You will be lazy in spirit. You will be a slugger. The slugger puts, he digs his
00:51:08 hand into the dish but doesn't have you know enough you know strength to bring it back to
00:51:14 his mouth and you like it's not just oh here's the body here's you know here's my soul uh these
00:51:21 things they flow they flow back and forth and you see guys today who who are out of shape who are
00:51:28 are lazy in the physical realm um and you know what uh it's the irony is this uh as they're
00:51:34 combating us on on twitter uh you know what they're doing uh their theological arguments
00:51:39 are just as lazy as their gym habits it's laziness across the board they're theologically lazy
00:51:45 no and it makes me think about you know we we've i think mentioned a few times like the possibility
00:51:49 of a draft in world war three and things like that you know and and and even though the official
00:51:53 draft age like we're all older i think than uh than what it is right now but during world war
00:51:58 too they made it to like age 60 right uh you have like um what is the tom hanks d-day movie uh um
00:52:06 saving private yeah he gets drafted as a school teacher in his 40s right you know and it's like
00:52:11 that that really did happen um and i think about these guys and i'm like all right if there's a
00:52:15 draft would they take you to go fight right and if they wouldn't like you should feel bad about
00:52:21 that right like if you've made yourself so physically unfit that you couldn't go fight
00:52:26 for your country if it was being invaded um that's not good that's bad and i'll never forget there
00:52:31 was a time where uh a friend of mine um yeah i brought him to my gym and it was a just a real
00:52:38 basic uh workout but i wanted him to get you know start getting in shape i'm trying to you know
00:52:42 push him like yeah you need to get you need to get fit man and there were uh in the workout there
00:52:49 were box jumps right and you know you jump onto the box and those are always a little bit dangerous
00:52:55 because if you miss right you hit the corner of the box and just smash your shin like you walked
00:53:00 into a trailer hitch right right really really hurts well you know after a couple box jumps he
00:53:04 did that and um i'll never forget like he he started like whimpering and and like crying
00:53:12 like like at like a little girl and i'm and i'm telling my man stop that you're gonna embarrass
00:53:19 me in front of everybody don't do that stop stop and he like threw tears it's like i just don't
00:53:24 get why you have to pretend it doesn't hurt and i'm like dude because you're a man you're a man
00:53:29 that's why and i'm like in the moment i'm not thinking of like okay do i give them a bible
00:53:33 verse right but when when these guys make these arguments you know it's like the same thing it's
00:53:39 like well where in the bible does it tell me chapter and verse that uh that if i smash my
00:53:43 shin on a on a box jump that i can't cry like a little girl like where you know tell me where
00:53:49 being a man means not crying and pretending it doesn't hurt it's like that's that's what it
00:53:54 means to be amazing like being strong and courageous means right when something hurts
00:53:58 you don't let it show right you don't you you just tough it out and keep going and that's right
00:54:03 and and and i i just the thing i just never had to think about like no one ever was like
00:54:08 yeah but why do i have to pretend that i'm like well i've never thought about it you just do
00:54:12 yeah right you just have but there are reasons yeah it is it should be instinct for a man
00:54:16 and for a lot of us it has been instinct by the grace of god god's common grace even before we
00:54:22 were converted but for the record uh we can give chapter and verse and not chapter and verse
00:54:27 explicitly but we can look at the whole of scripture and we can apply the general equity
00:54:32 of certain principles in scripture and say well this is why um like one of the reasons why a man
00:54:39 shouldn't cry like a little girl is um if he's a husband and a father particularly one if he's not
00:54:45 a husband and father he should be trying to win a win a wife become one yeah right uh-huh and uh
00:54:50 women aren't attracted to a man who is crying all the time, but there's a reason. It's instinct,
00:54:56 but instinct, nature is, you know, grace restores nature, right? It doesn't abolish nature. And so
00:55:02 there are theological reasons for that. The reason why a woman doesn't want to 1.00
00:55:07 marry a crying, sniveling man is because she's looking for a provider and a protector. So she's 1.00
00:55:13 looking for strength, right? And the reason why a man who once he is married, you know, before
00:55:17 married he's trying to attract a woman so he wants to play the man once he is married and has
00:55:22 children same thing um like i don't want my children to know how how um i don't want my
00:55:30 children to know how bad things are yeah not yet yeah i'm not saying not ever but i'm going to
00:55:36 introduce my children to trash world yeah uh uh progressively over time as as they're ready yeah
00:55:43 right now and for the record for those who listen because i always get in trouble with this kind of
00:55:46 stuff you know i'll say like you know i even tell my children what time to uh you know when to go to
00:55:50 the bathroom people he tells his 17 year old son you know like they immediately assume that i gotta
00:55:55 go they immediately assume that because because they hate me you know uh you know they couldn't
00:56:00 possibly you know give it a you know you know good faith listening but anyways my kids are you know
00:56:06 five uh five four uh three and one so five four three and one um but with that it's like uh right
00:56:14 now the economy is horrible everything costs uh way more exponentially more than it did for my
00:56:19 parents oh it's almost impossible to own a home god has been gracious to us to where we do own a
00:56:24 home we got in right before interest rates started to skyrocket all those kinds of things um so so
00:56:30 god has been kind to us but right now the world is a mess economically it's a mess and uh when
00:56:34 when my wife and i talk about these things we don't talk about it in front of the kids
00:56:38 so all that back to the illustration of your friend crying and i just don't understand why
00:56:42 you know like if it hurts i can't show it uh for the same reason that that my wife and i uh there's
00:56:48 there's some moments where you know where we might feel like crying yeah uh things are so bad you know
00:56:53 but we don't we don't do that in front of the kids she'll do it in front of me yeah when the kids 0.56
00:56:57 aren't there if the kids are around even though she she's the weaker vessel she's my wife i want
00:57:01 to be compassionate i will take sweetheart yeah get it together yeah this this reminds me get it
00:57:07 together this reminds me of a time my um my pastor in college best pastor i ever had he um my wife's
00:57:15 best friend was getting married and they were having um the groom's dinner at a park and we're
00:57:21 we're sitting in this this beautiful park and gonna have a great time and then all of a sudden
00:57:25 of nowhere this massive thunderstorm comes and a tornado later touched down like almost where we
00:57:31 were and lightning is striking like like it's the artillery barrage and band of brothers and
00:57:37 like tree branches are falling down everywhere and i'm you know i'm maybe 22 years old and i'm
00:57:43 i'm losing it you know i'm like we're all gonna die we gotta get out of here and my pastor is
00:57:48 there and he has his teenage and pre-teen kids all five of them they're with him and he's just
00:57:52 as stoic as if nothing was going on he's just like okay honey why don't you get the car we'll
00:57:59 just sit right here and he was as calm as could be and i was like whoa that's a man yeah and he's
00:58:08 not and he wasn't like a huge bodybuilder like he was just he's you know he would he'd be the first
00:58:13 to tell you he's just a scrawny pencil yeah you know he's just like things are fine we're gonna
00:58:19 be fine kids just sit right here yeah just as calm as can be and it's like man i would follow
00:58:25 that guy into war oh yeah you know like i want him leading uh like that's a man like that's that
00:58:30 is the the masculine temperament you should have and it was just like such a contrast oh the trick
00:58:35 and the trick there is the trick there is that that guy was probably he was terrified he was
00:58:40 probably told me later he was terrified yeah he thought we were gonna die but you can't let
00:58:47 everybody know that right you know it's it's it's hard for my son to understand my eight-year-old
00:58:51 You know, he always wonders, how can I be courageous when I'm so scared?
00:58:57 Well, that's, but that's the point of courage.
00:58:58 That's how, that's how you do it.
00:59:00 It's like, you're, you're afraid, but you do what you got to do anyway.
00:59:03 Yeah, you just don't think about it.
00:59:04 Yeah, the fear doesn't go away.
00:59:06 Right.
00:59:07 That's right.
00:59:07 Yep.
00:59:09 Yep.
00:59:09 That's right.
00:59:10 Well, I guess we can land the plane with this one, but don't be fat.
00:59:13 Some takeaways, right?
00:59:14 So don't be fat. 0.99
00:59:15 Fat pastors, no bueno. 0.99
00:59:17 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0.97
00:59:18 Be strong and courageous.
00:59:19 Be strong and courageous.
00:59:20 Never say die.
00:59:21 you know stay dangerous yeah all of these be hard to kill yeah um and and don't be agnostic
00:59:28 and recognize that yeah we we want to be men who love the word of god who study you know meditate
00:59:33 upon the word of god day and night uh but we also um physical training it's funny you know people
00:59:38 would be like well physical training is a profit like profit yeah but it's it's of some value the
00:59:44 bible doesn't say it's of no value it's it's not no value physical training has value it has value
00:59:50 And the only reason why it's some is in comparison to godliness, which has infinite value.
00:59:55 That's the only reason why it says, you know, some is because it's a comparing and contrast in the context of that verse.
01:00:02 But it has a lot of, like, it has some value in the sense of not being on dialysis for 80 years has value.
01:00:11 Yeah, it's not ultimate value.
01:00:12 Right, it's not ultimate value, salvific, eternal with Jesus.
01:00:16 There's value.
01:00:17 But 80-year value, it has more value than at least equal value, wealth and health, right?
01:00:25 So the Bible doesn't promise them that we're not prosperity gospel guys, but wealth and
01:00:29 health.
01:00:30 You have to work for it, both of them.
01:00:30 Yeah, both of them you have to work for.
01:00:32 And are there exceptions?
01:00:33 Sure, you can get cancer at 30, even though you were eating right and working out.
01:00:39 And you can have economic disaster.
01:00:43 before you know but in both cases we would say as a man both in terms of health and in terms of
01:00:49 wealth we have people who are depending on us and we want to be a rock for them we want because
01:00:55 we're modeling and we know we're not a rock jesus is the rock none of this is idolatrous none of
01:01:00 this is replacing christ but we're emulating christ husbands love your wives as christ loves
01:01:05 the church my wife when she's looking to me i'm supposed to be representing christ in the same
01:01:10 way in a different way um but the same principle i'm i'm also representing uh god to my children
01:01:15 a father and uh and and so i want my kids especially in their younger years they should
01:01:21 implicitly at this age five four three and one my kids should implicitly think uh that there's
01:01:27 nothing that dad can't do and that if i'm ever in trouble just run to dad yeah right and that's good
01:01:33 that's right and that's going to carry on with them and i'm going as they age i i'm doing it now
01:01:39 but i will continue even more and more to just set their gaze and turn it from me more and more
01:01:44 to their heavenly father yeah and say now because as they get older my my oldest daughter when she's
01:01:49 seven or eight she's going to start realizing oh dad dad fails dad can't you can't and then and
01:01:56 but then but then i'll say yeah but he can't yeah he can't yeah but but the for the principle to be
01:02:00 ingrained from from the time that they were babies of like fathers are not weak and sniveling
01:02:06 fathers don't cry when they hit their shin yeah like like just the other day like a complete
01:02:11 opposite to that example you get but just the other day like uh i got something i can't remember
01:02:16 what it was but something like fell on me and hit me and the and the girls saw it yeah and they're
01:02:20 like oh dad oh yeah yeah yeah and and i just you know face like was just i'm still you know on
01:02:27 face like it's like i'm fine they're like how how are you fine yeah i would have cried for all you
01:02:33 how are you fine how are you not because they're thinking like they would have been in tears you
01:02:38 know and they and they would how are you fine how are you okay and but even then i was able to give
01:02:43 praise like do your good deeds before men that they may praise your father in heaven so i turn
01:02:47 it to the lord i said uh because god is a good god and he made dad as strong yeah that's good
01:02:52 that's why i'm okay you know i like that anyways yeah want to end there yeah no that's good i mean
01:02:57 i think we have an american audience mostly western civilization for sure people are watching
01:03:02 your show, physical strength is of some value. But if you're watching this show, you're an
01:03:07 American, it has a lot more value than you think it does. It's as simple as that.
01:03:12 The some value in the Bible is way more, because these are people that walked everywhere all day
01:03:16 and did hard work. We sit behind computers all day and don't. And so it's of more value,
01:03:25 relatively speaking. Absolutely.
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