00:01:19.900we've mentioned a little bit already about how christianity has become so gnostic that we've
00:01:28.140completely severed the spiritual from the physical and you know at the time of recording this there's
00:01:34.500been some twitter spats online about biblical masculinity and guys are trying to say hey you
00:01:39.820know what part of masculinity is physical vitality strength duration those kinds of things
00:01:47.800um and then others are saying well you know again it's they can't speak in generality so it's like
00:01:53.220but if i can find one man who's a godly man yes and you know and also happens to be a quadriplegic
00:01:59.540then you know then i can say that masculinity has nothing to do your principle is invalid yeah
00:02:03.820exactly which that's not the way it works but all that being said like we've become super gnostic
00:02:08.480um meaning that you know we've severed the the physical from the spiritual the spiritual is all
00:02:14.760that matters john eldridge gets a bad rap you know with like yeah exactly that kind of stuff
00:02:20.000um but i just want to say from the outset as we go into this episode uh i think you know it's easy
00:02:26.220for our antagonist to say well you know but uh you're you're not uh what you were you know saying
00:02:34.540is the ideal you know like well you look like you could lose a few pounds yourself chubby you know
00:02:39.960like you know and and i think like here's the whole thing um call it you know conservatives
00:02:46.520the new right christian nationalists whatever you want to call it the guys who are advocating for
00:02:51.060biblical masculinity to have teeth and for it to actually have tangible attributes like physical
00:02:56.860strength and health and those kinds of things we're not doing that because um because it suits
00:03:01.760us because it's convenient we're not making those kinds of arguments because we all have raging
00:03:06.020six packs and because we all have this you know that let's speak for yourself right
00:03:10.660we're doing it because we're saying no but i think this is the biblical ideal even though i
00:03:17.740myself fall short of it that um that i'm actually going to you know so it's not there's a bunch of
00:03:23.720young guys who are in fantastic perfect shape and it just it's convenient for them to say that you
00:03:29.280know being in good physical shape is a part of biblical masculinity no we're saying despite the
00:03:34.160fact that we too have been eating you know from the the trash world trough you know of soy and
00:03:41.080all these different you know uh we but we recognize there's a problem with that there's a problem and
00:03:46.560i don't know who said it probably a bunch of guys have said it but uh when i think of the physical
00:03:51.320attributes of manhood i think like one way to sum it up uh succinctly is that a man should be uh he
00:03:57.100should be hard to kill that like um that a man should be hard to kill it you shouldn't be able
00:04:02.000to it's like okay like i'm not immortal i'm just a man um but if you want to hurt my family you're0.94
00:04:08.120going to have to kill me and it's not going to be easy yeah yeah so yeah no i i think um
00:04:15.180your point is is such a good one it would be very easy for us to say the convenient thing0.58
00:04:20.540and quite frankly a lot of our detractors in this space are saying the convenient thing right yeah
00:04:26.160they're fat and they're saying that that godliness has nothing to do with being in shape or even if
00:04:30.540they're not fat they're not where they want to be right let's just say it that way yeah yeah um0.96
00:04:34.360but i think you know when when we're talking about these things we're looking at look there's a way
00:04:40.700of life that quite frankly very few of us have lived in maybe none of us have lived um that is
00:04:46.860better than our current way of life and so you know we recognize that that's step one and then
00:04:52.760doing something about it is step two you can't just recognize you got to do something about it
00:04:56.320and for different people it's going to look differently like not everybody's going to be
00:05:00.240able to cut out or have the will to cut out seed oils instantly. But there are things that everybody
00:05:05.820can do. And, and we're saying we should stay, we should, we should start that right now.
00:05:10.260Right. Exactly. Yeah, absolutely. I, I, I think about, um, you know, where I was when I, I first
00:05:18.020kind of went on, on the journey of, of discovering that things are not quite right
00:05:22.680with, uh, the food we consume and, and just our, our, our lifestyle, um, what the lifestyle that's
00:05:29.400expected where you're just stationary all day sitting in, in, uh, you know, less comfortable
00:05:34.980chairs than these, uh, behind a desk. And I was, you know, I was, I was topping the scales at like,
00:05:43.120uh, close to 310 pounds. And I need, this is not healthy. I don't want to, I don't want to live
00:05:49.460this way. And I still would like work out, but I was, I was not in good physical condition.
00:05:55.540And I realized like, no, I need to, I need to lose weight and it's hard. It's, it's hard when you just say yes to every food because who cares to be like, no, I'm going to keep it within this certain calorie limit and then do that for a year and, and have the willpower to, to continue living that way is extremely difficult.
00:06:15.660it it's painful um sometimes but uh when when you lose weight and you get stronger uh at the same
00:06:23.300time um and you're in better physical shape you can you can run longer uh with you have better
00:06:29.120stamina you can run faster um all of those things you begin to feel you know like right now at 37
00:06:34.100i feel better than i did when i was 25 um except you know my my knees and joints will ache a little
00:06:39.840bit more yeah yeah yeah but like but physically i feel like i can i can do more i can i can lift
00:06:45.200more. I can, I can run more. And, um, just the, the, um, psychological effect that that has on
00:06:53.760you, uh, it, it changes you. It, it, it makes you more masculine. Um, and I mean, there's
00:07:00.780physiological reasons for that too. Like, uh, you know, excess lipidity lowers your testosterone
00:07:05.180levels and, and testosterone is, you know, we can joke around about it and, and, and laugh,
00:07:11.040but it really is the the hormone that makes you masculine um and and so and it gives you you know
00:07:18.360strength and confidence and all all these things and so you know even from the outset from the
00:07:23.240what we read in the book um the fact that testosterone levels are so low today is not
00:07:31.020random or an accident or anything like that it's that we've we've turned into the people like in
00:07:35.640the movie wall-e where you're just you know it's sitting in your thing moving around and and when
00:07:40.960the guy falls out he can't get back into his thing like the robots have to pick him up and
00:07:44.680plop him back into it like that's that's that's our oh you know almost our way of life as it exists
00:07:50.440now and that's not that's not how god built men to be um and you look at it and yeah you look at
00:07:57.200like the the statues from antiquity and how the greeks viewed the ideal body type like uh
00:08:02.280uh porphyris you know the spear carrier there's a there's one version of it in the um metropolitan
00:08:08.900museum of art in in minneapolis in minnesota where i'm from and this guy's you know he's this
00:08:16.580greek statue and he's strong and he uh and you see this and this was their ideal this is what a what
00:08:21.920a man should look like and it's not as though we're taking and people the detractors would hear
00:08:25.620that think like well you're that's a pagan understanding of what humanity is but all of
00:08:31.140all people everywhere have, have viewed, okay, men should be strong and they should be capable
00:08:35.920of, of doing violence if they have to. And, and you look at it today, like you have, you know,
00:08:42.040these obese people that like you push them and they'll just tip over and like, that's in men
00:08:48.580like that, that's not good. That's not good. You can't defend a family. Like Joel said,
00:08:52.560you can't defend a family that way. If somebody just, you know, barely taps you and you, you
00:08:56.380crumple uh you need to be able to defend your family especially today uh like the amount of
00:09:01.300crime and and violence and and the direction things are going um you need to be able to um
00:09:07.920be hard to kill right and and i you know so i realized that i i lose a bunch of weight and it
00:09:13.480like drastically changes your whole mentality of of how you operate on even on a day-to-day basis
00:09:19.340and this is one of those areas where it seems like conservatives have just kind of thrown in
00:09:23.280the towel and you know just surrendered it to the left so like this and also you you think of the
00:09:29.180environment you know so like there's a portion where you say like in the book you know like
00:09:32.880we don't want to just eat cheeseburgers and burn tires in our backyard to own the lips
00:09:37.000you know so like yeah um no like the environment is um that's not a leftist thing that's a
00:09:42.300christian thing yeah and the leftist environmentalism is really fake right explain that for
00:09:47.780a second yeah so i mean it really is this like top-down bureaucratic thing that they think oh
00:09:52.560if we just replace all the light bulbs, that'll stop the world from destroying itself. You know,
00:09:57.580like if we just do the tinker with these little bureaucratic things, you know, use paper straws,
00:10:02.740that'll fix everything. And it's like, no, it doesn't. And it, and what it does, it's like a
00:10:07.620typical liberal thing where it's like, you outsource any care you have about, about the
00:10:13.980actual environment. You outsource that to other people that take care of it rather than no, like
00:10:18.860i um i i pick up trash by the roadside and i take care of uh you know you know clean up parks and
00:10:26.240things like that like i um and and um care about my immediate environment uh way more and you'll
00:10:32.680you'll see that especially in like um that still exists in in like rural kind of blue collar red
00:10:39.000state areas where you have all sorts of different hunting associations that really take care of the
00:10:43.180land. And these are not people that have a high view of Greta Thunberg. These are people that
00:10:49.340just want nice, clean waters to fish in and land to hunt in that they can walk through. It's not
00:10:57.540full of trash and garbage. And even like the national parks, like creating national parks
00:11:03.540was like this very right-wing thing. It wasn't like, yeah, okay, Teddy Roosevelt, he was kind
00:11:08.860of this progressive but it was it was very much um a right-wing project we want to maintain these
00:11:14.040places that are our natural beauties and wonders uh for posterity to to see we don't want them full
00:11:20.520of strip malls and garbage everywhere um there's a there's a reason why like you don't have national1.00
00:11:26.320parks in third world countries right um there's just trash all over the place and those countries1.00
00:11:31.280are the ones that don't they don't care about the environment at all uh they don't have uh you know1.00
00:11:35.960well-ordered societies like like we used to so yeah also uh so that's you know on the environment
00:11:43.280front back to food nutrition um now i've even struggled with this i'll confess you know for
00:11:49.840myself on one hand like i think of you know okay in terms of hunger there's a lot less people in
00:11:57.820terms of percentages there's more people in terms of you know overall numeric number uh way more
00:12:03.880people in the world today than there was even just a short time ago um and yet percentage wise
00:12:10.620there's way less hunger than there was a short time ago and so for you know for all three of us
00:12:17.220we would prescribe to post-millennialism in terms of our eschatology um and we would see you know
00:12:22.500like you know he comes to make you know his blessings flow as far as the curse is found
00:12:27.420um pushing back on global hungry uh hunger and feeding people all those kinds of things
00:12:32.520like so praise god for that but there's something to be said like okay but what what is uh what0.51
00:12:37.680constitutes food well and we and we have you know you almost said it we have global homo hunger0.76
00:12:41.800yeah now right and you're right i mean it's it's the same argument though where you could make the0.92
00:12:48.700same quasi post-millennial argument that well there's way more wealth now than there there
00:12:54.700ever used to be so that must be good but we've we talked about this before that like the wealth
00:12:58.900that we have is largely fictitious like yeah we have lots of consumer goods and things like
00:13:02.460that and but that's come at a cost right it's always trade-offs destabilized our whole our0.98
00:13:07.920whole society you know sending sending women to work take you're destroying households all that
00:13:12.160kind of stuff and yeah you get much more production but you you've eaten through the seed corn and
00:13:17.000it's the same it's it's similar with food like yeah we produce way more food but is it the kind
00:13:22.260of food that gives people you know healthy um you know healthy lives or is it the kind of food that
00:13:28.540makes them fat and sick right um so it's like uh yeah it's i mean you can eat it and it will
00:13:35.120satiate you uh not very well but it will satiate you um but it's not something that like in like
00:13:42.440this kind of idealist post-millennial sense right we wouldn't have you know all of this acreage of
00:13:48.040corn and soybeans everywhere we would have pastures where where cows are grazing and you
00:13:52.400and you can you can do that it just it it's much less uh you make less money that way right you
00:13:58.820you aren't maximizing maximizing the um the profitability of that acreage like you would
00:14:04.740with corn and soybeans and feedlots and and so forth and and so the result is um ultimately
00:14:12.400you know a diet that is is really unlike any in human history where people are fed like the the0.69
00:14:20.260baseline for human history is people are hungry like poor people are starving right um and now
00:14:26.220all of our poorest people in america are are fat and diabetic you know and it's like you you
00:14:34.020couldn't if you went back in time and this is a thing that i'd say a lot of the book like you go
00:14:37.700back in time and you tell people 500 years ago yeah you know we've got a lot of poor people in
00:14:42.020america and you know the biggest health problem they have is they eat too much food um they'd be
00:14:48.000like that doesn't like you must be in some kind of paradise you must be living in the garden of
00:14:51.920eden it's like no the food is like barely constitutes its food product and it's it's
00:14:58.880all like corn oil and soy oil uh that that they're consuming and it's we basically feed all our poor
00:15:04.960people paint thinner and they blow it up um and like oh that sounds even worse yeah all right i'm
00:15:10.720just gonna say it this show is fantastic you know it's fantastic i know it's fantastic but i'm
00:15:15.680willing to admit there is one singular problem the waiting zone right you got to wait a whole week
00:15:21.620for each new episode of this show to drop on fridays at 4 p.m central time unless you go on
00:15:28.840over to patreon.com forward slash right response ministries and then you'll be able to binge watch
00:15:36.220every single episode of an entire season all in one day so this is a season-based show right the
00:15:44.000whole idea is a deep dive on one singular topic so that you know everything there is to know.
00:15:50.400Each season comes out in a quarter, right? So a three-month period, anywhere from probably eight
00:15:55.820to 12 episodes in a season. And the moment that the first episode of a new season drops to the
00:16:01.760public, then you can go over to patreon.com forward slash right response ministries and watch
00:16:08.720all of those episodes without having to wait week by week by week for the next episode to publicly
00:16:14.840drop so you know what to do don't waste any more time binge watch the whole season today yeah it
00:16:21.760there's always trade-offs in these situations right so you get the calories that you need to
00:16:25.880survive but it's simultaneously lowering your quality of life it's simultaneously killing you
00:16:31.180almost well maybe not even almost it is killing you yeah yeah and it creates a um a passivity
00:16:38.860in you as well yeah where i mean it's no surprise like people are always surprised about why did
00:16:44.560everyone comply with covid i mean we're all like dying here right you know we're all like depressed
00:16:49.740and dying and that's why people complied with that right yeah you know what i mean yeah and
00:16:54.400they were engineered that way even with the food right yeah um i remember when i first realized
00:17:00.660that the food pyramid was a scam yeah it's a big it's a big awakening for a lot of people yeah
00:17:04.960yeah that was a big moment not only is it a scam but it's like inverted yeah right yeah yeah you
00:17:09.620need fats you need animal fat you need red meat and you don't need carbs the whole thing was like
00:17:14.640okay cholesterol you know having high cholesterol is really really really bad that's the you know
00:17:19.380the leading thing uh for heart attacks and uh the thing that's going to give you bad cholesterol is
00:17:24.980butter and bacon and fat you know eggs yeah these kinds of things steak uh red meat you know or at
00:17:32.780least too much red meat yeah and so you know meats and those kinds and fats you know those kinds of
00:17:38.080things are is what's going to give you you know bad cholesterol and that's what's going to give
00:17:41.300you a heart attack but very little mention of sugar you know and so then it was like well the
00:17:46.260thing that's good for you is grains you know so that's like at the bottom it's all these grains
00:17:50.240but then what pasta all day long right fine yeah exactly yeah it's low fat but i feel terrible when
00:17:55.600i eat pasta like you know and which we rarely do in the webbing household we eat meat and vegetables
00:18:00.620and fruit and those but um and luckily i have a wife who helps to take care of us but with all
00:18:06.280that the point is to say that like with uh with grains came sugar like yeah grocery stores all
00:18:11.840of a sudden it became cereal cereal cereal cereal like all these things and in all of them was uh
00:18:18.200because it's bland you know and so like and they wanted people to you know to come back and to buy
00:18:23.640more and like so it turns out like you know the grains that you eat these things you know and
00:18:28.140it's packed filled with sugar so that it'll actually you know sell off the shelf and it
00:18:32.960doesn't satiate hunger the same way that you know meat or those kinds of things so then you have to
00:18:36.380eat more of it you go back and you're getting you know more and more and it it does seem like
00:18:41.000man this is just uh it's an economic scam it seems like it's just like a business trick you
00:18:46.060know like we're gonna sell more product yeah like when i was um when i when i started losing weight
00:18:51.700and and became very serious about it i paid way more for groceries than i did before i started
00:18:58.860losing weight like my i'm i'm eating less but my food budget is going up because i was buying way
00:19:04.120more meat um and eating other you know not not eating cheap garbage and it was crazy like i could
00:19:11.480eat a whole steak and some eggs and like that's my all the food i need that day and i mean not
00:19:17.700even hungry the rest of the day and it's like wow it's almost like god designed the world for meat
00:19:25.960to satiate you and all of the bread and grains and all this stuff kind of just leaves you hungry
00:19:30.980and wanting more a couple hours later um that's oh that's a reality like that's that's and that's
00:19:36.740how people used to live and and it's it's funny like you have that like the the lindy principle
00:19:40.580you know comes from nasim nicholas taleb um where things that have been around for a long time the
00:19:46.640likelihood is they're going to be around you know at least that long or longer and you know if you
00:19:52.360think about that like how did your great grandmother make food like what food did she feed your great
00:19:57.180grandpa uh well he would wake up and he'd have bacon and eggs and if it was bread it was like
00:20:02.800you know hand ground or like stone ground bread like you know things like that where it's not
00:20:08.400you know wonder bread off the shelf you know things things of that nature where it took a
00:20:12.680lot of work to make that food and it was and it was more expensive uh but it was usually meats
00:20:18.340and a lot of fat and uh some you know some vegetables like that's what the diet consisted
00:20:24.340of. And it was like whole ingredients. That's what you made. There was no store shelf of processed
00:20:29.120food to eat from. And that's like a Lindy way of, of eating. And we've, we've gone away from
00:20:36.080that completely. And there's all sorts of reasons why, I mean, mainly financial ones, um, that you
00:20:41.800can make a lot more money if you produce boxes, you know, store shelves completely full of Cheez-Its
00:20:46.560than if you're, you know, if you're just selling meat, right. There's a lot less money to be made
00:20:52.180in that way. Um, and so that's, what's become of our, our diets is, um, it isn't just, I mean,
00:20:58.280it's easy to like just demonize all fast food and junk food and, and pop other people call it soda,
00:21:04.320I guess, um, uh, that, that that's, that's become the main component of our diet. And that's true.
00:21:09.860It has, but it's, it's also because like real food that takes time to make. And a lot of people
00:21:15.520don't have time uh but real food um is is so much healthier so much better for you and and if you
00:21:23.300eat it like i i like making i really like french cuisine and that takes a lot of time usually to
00:21:29.600make um and it's usually very rich lots of cream and butter like butter and everything like families
00:21:34.780um from from churches we've been at would always say like oh if you go to the iskers to eat you're
00:21:40.100gonna eat at least three sticks of butter uh with the food that you eat uh but i i'd eat this way
00:21:46.480and i would lose weight it was the craziest thing you know like i'm eating lots of meat and lots of
00:21:51.000fat and like wow but the scale keeps going down what's going on there and and it's because i was
00:21:55.400eating real food uh really for the first time in my life and and all of a sudden right um my body
00:22:03.160is adjusting to that i'm not as hungry anymore i have more energy throughout the day even though
00:22:07.140i'm eating less food um and and you know i'm finally kind of reverting to the way that uh
00:22:15.680the way that people have always lived and you begin to become much much healthier but it takes
00:22:20.220a tremendous amount of like conscious effort to not do what everybody else is doing just to get
00:22:25.780to like baseline of how a human being used to look a hundred years ago right um like you have
00:22:32.780to go way out of your way just to have a normal physique from like the 1920s um and and that should
00:22:41.620tell you something is messed up something is not right and you can have this you know pseudo
00:22:47.680post-millennial argument well we're feeding all the hungry people and it's like yeah but we're
00:22:51.720we're making everyone fat and sick and and ruining their lives giving them diabetes
00:22:57.460and, and cancer and things like this. Um, and is that, is that the trade-off we want? You know,
00:23:04.440is that the trade-off that you want to have in this post-millennial future? I don't think so.
00:23:08.200So a lot of our food, it makes us fat, makes us sick. Um, but it also makes us gay, right?0.94
00:23:13.400They're turning the frogs gay. They're turning the freaking frogs gay.1.00
00:23:16.620Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're here in Austin with, uh,1.00
00:23:18.700so I'm being a little bit facetious, but you know, it does seem like, you know, there,
00:23:25.200there is a link between our diet and not just when it comes to obesity and not just when it
00:23:30.960comes to, you know, health versus, you know, disease and sickness and diabetes, but also
00:23:36.280testosterone levels, like what you eat, like can actually affect, you know, your testosterone and
00:23:42.400lower those things. And so let me say this, you know, when, when, when we were in the middle of
00:23:46.380the Wuhan flu hysteria, I don't know about you guys, but when I would go to the grocery store
00:23:52.500or wherever i was was at you know there was always a little bit of instant camaraderie you had with
00:23:57.460someone who didn't wear the mask you know what i mean oh yeah you'd always give them the other
00:24:00.240what i've noticed though is that it was mostly men that didn't wear the masks and it was pretty
00:24:06.940much always a pretty healthy looking guy yeah a guy that's in shape a guy that's in shape a guy
00:24:10.900larger than i am you know like that kind of thing some women didn't wear masks too and it was
00:24:15.920typically again healthy looking women right that that wouldn't do it yeah and so i you know i'm
00:24:22.580wondering you know i don't i don't know the connection but i can i can probably assume some0.91
00:24:26.720of it um but it's just amazing to me because the people that look the least healthy typically
00:24:31.600were masking up as if they're guarding their health yeah right yeah right you know what i
00:24:36.380mean well it's the same thing with like the the um can we say that you can say whatever the uh
00:24:43.600the experimental medical treatment. It's the same thing where a lot of it too with health is you
00:24:50.680don't, and fitness and all of this is, it's like, well, if I blimp up to 400 pounds, whatever,
00:24:57.720but I can just take a pill or I can just get a vaccine or I can just have some external thing
00:25:03.700that happens. If I get so obese, I can't sleep right and get sleep apnea. I can just put on the
00:25:08.880sleep apnea mask and I'll sleep again. Like we haven't, I mean, healthcare in America is nearly
00:25:13.80020% of the GDP. So going to the hospital, pharmaceuticals, all of that is like one out
00:25:19.920of every $5 of things that are produced in America goes to that. And so there are all of these
00:25:26.340different things that treat these symptoms rather than the main underlying thing, which is our food
00:25:31.800is killing us and but the the issue there is it's way easier to just eat a whole box of cheese it's
00:25:39.080than it is to you know cook a small steak and then have that as your dinner uh it's way easier
00:25:44.660more convenient and it and it and and people like it yeah people people like living this way um
00:25:50.880because they get comfort out of their they're depressed and so they eat more and they get
00:25:54.360comfort from their food. And, and so rather than having people, you know, have willpower and,
00:26:01.720and discipline, just eat as much as you want. And we'll, we'll come up with some medical solution
00:26:07.220to take care of it afterward. And the, and the masks and the vaccine, I think are part of that,
00:26:13.720that whole thing. It's like, well, I'll just take some more pills or I'll just, I'll just do this
00:26:17.100and I'll just wear the mask. That'll protect my health rather than, oh, I should spend the next
00:26:21.760year losing 100 pounds and going to the gym every day and working out really hard uh that'll help
00:26:27.600my health uh well that's not even a consideration just throw on a little piece of cloth the main
00:26:32.140things that were shut down during the lockdowns were churches and gyms so it was never really
00:26:36.180about health and you know like if somebody was trying to play the devil's advocate when you're
00:26:40.080like hey the healthy people are the ones who weren't wearing a mask and you know i could just
00:26:43.580imagine you know somebody you know saying well well no duh you know the lowest risk yeah they
00:26:48.400have a lowest risk factor and so it's the people who aren't healthy that would wear the mask to
00:26:52.240protect them and stuff it's like yeah but but if they were really concerned about you know if all
00:26:56.780these mask wearers were really concerned about their health uh why don't they hop on the treadmill
00:27:01.400why don't they you know there's a lot of other things that could be so really it's not i it's
00:27:05.860not about that i don't think it's just like well all the fatties you know wore masks during you
00:27:10.340know covid because um because they needed it because they were more you know at risk no but
00:27:15.580i i think it's more than that i think it also i think what you might have been getting at ad
00:27:20.020maybe i'm off but is uh the type of person who seemed to fall for all these plays in 2020
00:27:26.060was an unhealthy person that's right so it's not just they wore the mask as a defense because they
00:27:31.840needed it because they're weak uh physically weak and susceptible and so they needed the the physical
00:27:37.160protection of the mask whatever that would have been but it's like no they um mentally to get rid
00:27:43.000the physical just mentally these people are of a different frame of mind these are weak-minded
00:27:47.680not just weak-bodied but weak-minded people who easily are susceptible to every single play and
00:27:54.680i think part of it has to do with the fact that yeah they're not christian they're not you know
00:27:58.040but part of it also has to do with like they're they're they're eating poison yeah for breakfast
00:28:03.400and they've always listened to the conventional wisdom from on high yeah about everything right
00:28:08.200including their diet they've been told no this is a healthy diet that i'm eating i'm not doing
00:28:12.000anything wrong. I'm, I'm, I'm eating low fat food, you know, things like that. I'm not, I'm
00:28:16.380eating. Oh, I'm not going to touch any egg yolks. That's going to give me heart disease. Right.
00:28:20.180And meanwhile, they're, they're over three bills. And, and it's like, no, that everything they told
00:28:25.580you about nutrition and diet has been a lie. And what else are they telling you that you should do
00:28:30.580that is also not true? Like you cannot trust any of this. We were talking before, like we, we, uh,
00:28:36.340started recording about just the idea that eggs are bad for you and where that came from. I mean,
00:28:43.200it came from the 1960s when Lyndon Johnson was president and there was a ton of inflation and
00:28:48.100the price of eggs kept going up. And so he wanted people to stop buying eggs. So he said, oh, it
00:28:51.920gives you heart disease. He had like FDA tell everybody to view eggs as the cause of heart
00:29:00.140attacks. And then people stop eating eggs and egg prices go down. And that's remained with us for
00:29:05.580like 50 or 60 years this idea that oh eggs are going to kill me if i eat eggs when they're like
00:29:10.960the most healthy thing that human beings have eaten since uh you know since since adam is in
00:29:16.800the garden right you know like so i'm sure there was a chicken there right laying eggs and so
00:29:21.740anyway were you debating between since noah or wait no i think it was in my mind for a second
00:29:26.840i'm like no you could eat eggs before the fall yeah and we could get into herman bobbing uh you
00:29:31.840know, pre-lapsarian argument. I think meat was always going to be on the menu. I think so too.
00:29:36.060Yeah, absolutely. But at any rate, like all of this is manufactured from the top down
00:29:43.540and they give these dictates, like the food pyramid and eggs being bad for you and all
00:29:48.560this kind of stuff. When you look at how human beings have lived throughout all time and it's
00:29:53.880completely backwards and then you're told like, well, no, like you even have reports every once
00:29:59.700in a while where it's like lifting weights is bad for you. That causes heart attacks. You don't do
00:30:04.140it. And it's insane that this is pushed so hard on all of these people. And there's just this
00:30:10.820implicit trust in the system that the system will take care of me. They will come up with some
00:30:16.520magical Star Trek medical cure to heal me of whatever disease. I'll just get another,
00:30:23.120I'll just take, I already take three dozen pills. I'll just take one more. And that's how people in
00:30:29.100that mindset live their life right the danger of centralized power is often represented by the word
00:30:36.120king as americans we hate the word king civilian ownership of body armor is about helping people
00:30:44.620to have increased power to resist tyrants and criminals and so armored republic is about
00:30:51.580helping you to preserve your god-given rights to the honor of the lord jesus christ because he is
00:30:57.100the king of kings and he governs kings and he will judge them this is armored republic and in a
00:31:04.200republic there is no king but christ we are free craftsmen and we are honored to be your armor
00:31:12.280spread the choice so how what what do we do this is a question that i you know my wife and i have
00:31:30.720talked through um what do we do as christian men who want to resource at the end of the day you
00:31:37.180know we're going to be the head of our homes but our wives are going to be doing most of
00:31:41.700the food type activities you know like like whether it's shopping or like you know as as men0.90
00:31:47.420are working to be providers out of the home the wife is managing the resources of her husband
00:31:52.400within the home she's doing the shopping she's doing a lot of the cooking and those kinds of
00:31:56.160things and my wife is making those decisions underneath you know my guidance but i'm trusting
00:32:01.060her as viceroy of our home to make those decisions which are massive like what yeah what are our four
00:32:06.600children going to eat you know and like it's a massive amount of responsibility now here's the1.00
00:32:11.000thing a lot of the resources out there that my wife could you know that are at her disposal0.99
00:32:16.380how do i disciple my wife in such a way that she can get good resources for diet for food for those0.99
00:32:22.220things without necessarily becoming a libtard right because you know what i mean so like how0.65
00:32:30.840so how do we as christians as christian men but then also with our wives encourage them to embrace
00:32:36.500good healthy eating practices without becoming granola crunchy you know uh dreadlock you know
00:32:45.480and move to portland yeah yeah i think some of those people um there's an there's enough disparity
00:32:51.440in like the goals that you're after anyway that you're not going to go down all the same roads
00:32:56.620as them because i mean a lot of them ended up being vegan and things like that um but i think
00:33:03.060the few big keys is, all right, there's this, there's this compound that used to only be used
00:33:10.700as a, you know, industrial by-product, uh, called, you know, soybean oil and corn oil.
00:33:16.400And it was only used for paint thinner before we had latex paints. That's what it was used for.
00:33:21.160And then they discovered, Hey, we can put it in food and replace, replace animal fat and butter
00:33:27.600and things like that. And it's really useful. It's very stable. But to produce it, it's produced
00:33:34.800at such high heat and it breaks down the fats. And I'm, you know, I'm not a biologist and I'm
00:33:41.300not going to pretend to be one, but you know, these, these, you know, I think like omega six
00:33:47.080fats, like they, they just, or omega threes, right. They, they attack your body and they,
00:33:52.080they make um they make it extremely hard to lose the fat that you gain uh and um there's all sorts
00:34:00.460of other problems with them um and so if you're able to excise those things from your diet but
00:34:05.580if you go to the store and you look at the ingredients on everything it one of the first
00:34:10.280two or three ingredients in in the box or on the jar of whatever you buy is going to be canola oil
00:34:16.820vegetable oil corn oil soy oil and if you get rid of those things it's amazing like i that's what i
00:34:23.440did i just went through our whole pantry and got the garbage can over i'm just like gone gone gone
00:34:29.720miracle whip gone you know and and it's like oh well how are we gonna all the mayonnaise has
00:34:36.940you know corn oil or soybean oil in it like how are we gonna have mayonnaise i'm like well
00:34:41.420let's just go on the internet how do you make mayonnaise uh without seed oils and you get
00:34:47.880avocado oil which is not a seed oil uh and you you put a you put a cup of that and an egg and
00:34:54.540you put it through the blender and boom you have the best tasting mayonnaise you've ever had in
00:34:57.940your life and and so like examples like that where or even better my favorite substitute for mayonnaise
00:35:02.920is no mayonnaise i'm from the midwest uh joel that's not an option
00:35:08.240you can't get rid of that as i mean the midwest but uh it is you know things like that where it's
00:35:16.580like and it's simple this is how people used to live is they just wouldn't they wouldn't go to
00:35:19.780the store to buy it they would take the whole ingredients and make the stuff and right and of
00:35:25.100course there's more work right you have to make it every couple days it only stays fresh for like a
00:35:29.140week uh but that should be a thing in your head like all right if the stuff that i buy at the
00:35:34.920store doesn't stay fresh for very long it's actually good because if it's not going bad
00:35:41.560what is in it that is keeping it from going bad right uh this is actually real food that i can
00:35:46.980my body is designed to digest and process um so going through your your pain like getting rid of
00:35:53.300seed oils and and just being intentional about like the food that you're going to eat that week
00:35:58.740like what are we going to have a seed oil no no no there's there are oils in it yeah it's no it's
00:36:04.260i've heard some people like i've seen some news you're like that moment you realize coffee is
00:36:09.060no no coffee no coffee is is fantastic for that's the other thing too is like in losing weight i
00:36:17.060drank a lot more coffee and a lot more caffeine yeah and it's it's it also like sates your
00:36:22.900appetite right you're not um i was not as hungry as often drinking so much caffeine and and and so
00:36:29.100like things like that though like if you if you make food like real food like today we're gonna
00:36:35.460have a chicken and we're gonna roast the chicken in the oven we're gonna have some potatoes with
00:36:39.140it and like that's our meal we didn't get anything out of a box we just made it ourselves that takes
00:36:45.240time it's more work for her and for me when i cook but um it's it's a valuable investment in
00:36:51.080time it's like oh i guess i get to watch one less episode of of you know something on netflix tonight
00:36:56.480I, you know, I'd spent more time cooking. Oh, what a, what a tragedy. Right. You know,
00:37:00.280like most people actually have way more time than they think they do to make, to make food.
00:37:05.120And it's such a vital investment of time because I always tell people this same thing with like
00:37:11.000working out. Like I'll spend, you know, an hour a day working out and that's a huge investment
00:37:16.180of time. Gym costs money, all of these things like that. But it's like, I don't know when I'm
00:37:21.12070 or 80 years old, am I going to be able to retire? Is there going to be any, is there going
00:37:25.280to be an economy left when i'm 70 or 80 years old to retire into i'm gonna have to keep working the
00:37:30.420rest of my life uh so i need to be healthy uh so the the time i'm spending now trying to be healthy
00:37:36.020the money i'm spending on good food to be healthy um is an investment where i'm thinking down the
00:37:41.160road you know 50 years from now it's always what keeps coming up is there's these trade-offs right
00:37:47.140you're you're spending an hour a day to to work out and doing whatever you're doing um what you're
00:37:53.180not seeing though, is the time that you're going to be spending, you know, at the dialysis office
00:37:58.240or, or whatever, you know, whatever your ailments are. I mean, we all have, you know, grandparents
00:38:03.060that they, they have a doctor's appointment every day. You know what I mean? And my dad right now,
00:38:07.560every single day, every single day, they, they, they spend however much time it takes for them
00:38:12.100to do that. Um, it's a trade-off, you know, you, you, I mean, obviously there's some situations
00:38:17.460where you have to go but the time you take now is time that you're adding later right you know
00:38:23.620what i mean and and i think and also the time that you spend now working out i mean even just
00:38:30.500think about you know yourself you know before you start started losing weight um chances are
00:38:36.440you were probably slower in everything that you did yes even waking up oh yeah even you know all
00:38:42.560this stuff right this is all stuff that that you that you you took the trade off it really isn't
00:38:48.620detracting anything from your day it's actually adding to your day yeah yeah you have more energy
00:38:52.480during the day to do things yeah uh and you get things more things done even though you're spending
00:38:56.560uh more time doing something else yeah right in lifting and working out yeah i'll say this
00:39:02.040as a personal thing my my younger brother had a medical incident uh this this year and you know
00:39:08.280i thought he was gonna die i really did um and he kind of had a a moment where he's just like
00:39:13.940i'm i'm i'm dying you know what i mean if i don't do something about this i'm gonna be dead
00:39:19.580and i'm gonna have my wife with my with the four kids all alone and all of this stuff and so these
00:39:25.940are things that like even if you don't have an incident like that you don't want to like you
00:39:30.660don't want to wait until you have an incident like that you know what i mean yeah absolutely
00:39:34.420And like you said, the investment is worth it when you think about down the road long term.
00:39:41.100Like I want to be able to, when I'm 70 or 80 years old, be able to go out hiking and go out doing things with my-
00:39:48.760Throw a football with your grandkids, something.
00:44:51.660Now, this was the minority report, but I appreciate them because why not?
00:44:55.440You know, if you're going to view the body as a prison, the minority report was like, well, then, you know, eat, drink, for tomorrow we die, right?
00:45:01.080So just let's go hardcore and pleasure and we'll, you know, because ultimately it's like the soul is what's pure and undefiled, and the soul is going to be freed by the destruction of the body.
00:45:11.640So most of them scourged the body, you know, so it was, you know, it was flogging, it was constant fasting.
00:45:18.520and a lot of this even seeped into various you know portions of christianity or kind of like
00:45:24.240neo-christian whether it be orthodoxy yeah exactly so you're sleeping on planks that have cracks
00:45:30.800open in them so that the cool air you know will like so you're you're just miserable all night
00:45:35.220long you know or like um you know so all these different things you know that you know uh that
00:45:39.860you're self-inflicting pain beating down the body starving yourself and then the minority report
00:45:45.900like i said they were like well we'll destroy the body the other way yeah so it's just indulging
00:45:49.840yeah exactly so then that's where you know you get your you know michel uh you know what's his
00:45:55.020michelle foucault i can't ever say michelle foucault you know it's just like well but you're0.88
00:46:00.640you're gonna get aids and die and he's like don't care don't care it's worth it sex is life so but
00:46:06.500my point is all that is that matter is bad exactly matter is bad the soul the spirit is the only0.98
00:46:12.920that's good and and yet there's so much of the church that thinks that way and what you were
00:46:18.060saying earlier uh it's not just that the guy is a beanpole you know and and a medium-sized box is
00:46:24.720crushing him yeah it's also his reaction that he's crying yeah and and whimpering like a girl
00:46:31.280and so and so my point is that like um even when it comes to pastorally with you know counseling
00:46:36.880people um it's like i'm depressed you know i'm struggling with anxiety and he's like okay well
00:46:42.180here's some bible we're going to go to the word of god the word of god is sufficient for all of
00:46:45.700life and the word of god's gonna say i have no fear and the word of god's gonna talk about you
00:46:49.980know cast your cares upon him for he cares for you uh the word of god's gonna it's gonna say all
00:46:54.180these things but then the word of god is also gonna tell us um that well like go to sleep on
00:47:00.680time yeah you know like like you're you you are a body like i i am way more at peace in my 30s
00:47:08.520than I was in my 20s, simply just by having better habits, by having better diet, going to bed at a
00:47:15.440better time, waking up at a better time, and also just having something to do, having a wife and
00:47:20.400four kids and a job, you know, keeps me busy to where I don't have all this free time where I'm,
00:47:25.320you know, doing introspection and navel gazing and thinking about, you know, all the, you know,
00:47:29.780the deepest fears in the world. So all that being said, my point is, you can grow in mental
00:47:35.060fortitude, you can grow in spiritual fortitude, but also growing in physical fortitude and being
00:47:42.220not made of glass and like actually having grit, physical grit. A guy typically, now of course
00:47:51.540there are exceptions, but typically a guy who has grit physically usually has some mental stamina
00:47:59.520as well like he's not gonna easily you know you couldn't just run a psyop on him and he'd be
00:48:05.560and yeah in 15 minutes like you'd have to you would have to try you know it'd be pretty tough
00:48:11.060yeah well i think to to get the physical fortitude it takes mental fortitude to do that yes you know
00:48:17.580what i mean it takes something in you to you know go to the gym for an hour every day and you know
00:48:22.440and and this is the thing too like you know some guys will say oh it's ridiculous for you to
00:48:26.980encourage christian men to go to the gym because you know gyms didn't exist back in in jesus's day
00:48:31.360or you know i are or me and my friends you know we did actually but yeah okay there you go we'll
00:48:37.900talk about that where did the word come from but um yeah but but but you know or me and my friends
00:48:43.400you know we we work for a living we never hit the gym but we're plenty strong that's great yeah
00:48:47.420that's great all that stuff takes mental fortitude too to go out and do a trades job every day yeah
00:48:53.540But the reality for a lot of people today is that we sit behind a computer to work.