The NXR Podcast - THE INTERVIEW - An Epidemic Of Spiritual Homosexuality - ICYMI w Andrew Isker and @ADRobles

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00:00:41.760 You live in a dystopia.

00:00:45.600 Every part of historical human existence in our world has been turned on its head.

00:00:52.020 The world we live in is an inversion of what God created you to live in.

00:00:56.880 All that is good is treated as though it were repugnant.

00:01:00.300 All that is beautiful is treated as though it were repulsive.

00:01:03.900 And the truth is forbidden while the most outrageous lies are exalted.

00:01:09.480 This world did not become like this by accident or by inexorable forces of history.

00:01:15.840 This world was engineered to be this way.

00:01:18.500 It was designed to take the life your ancestors had and tear it apart to prevent you from attaining a normal human way of life.

00:01:31.480 After the events of 2020, the lockdowns, the regime-sponsored riots, and the dubious election,

00:01:38.380 many people became aware of the fact that we have elites who rule over us who might not have our best interests in mind.

00:01:45.340 for at least a segment of the population

00:01:49.220 the World Economic Forum, Klaus Schwab, George Soros

00:01:52.220 and the late Jeffrey Epstein became household names

00:01:55.080 millions of people are now terrified

00:01:57.940 of what apocalyptic hellscape these people will create

00:02:00.900 but they are not asking the right questions

00:02:03.700 the question is not, what are they planning to do to us

00:02:07.320 what you should be asking is, what have they already done

00:02:10.860 and what can people do about it

00:02:12.980 you call it trash world some guys call it clown world but one thing that you did really well i 0.98

00:02:22.900 think just in the preface is talking about how it's fake and gay and not just to get a rise 0.99

00:02:29.100 but those words are intentional let's let's talk about fakeness and gayness of trash world 0.99

00:02:34.300 and how we need to recognize it and push back yeah yeah well um yeah the the the fakeness and 0.96

00:02:40.980 the gayness and i i talk about this in in the book and i'll say that a lot but i talk about

00:02:47.880 this in the book that it's not just um like a schoolyard slur or or something that that's

00:02:54.220 intentionally provocative of course it is intentionally provocative but but it isn't

00:02:58.400 just that it isn't it isn't just something to to make you recoil it there's a deep meaning to it

00:03:04.520 that um the the world around us is is fake it's not real it's not it's totally artificial um the

00:03:12.940 entire way of life that that we now have is is not something that is you know one sustainable

00:03:19.240 it's not something that is is a way that human beings have really ever lived in in our entire

00:03:26.400 existence and um and it's it's all set up by this kind of house of cards both both socially and

00:03:32.560 economically and everything else politically and um when you begin to see it and you you have to

00:03:39.280 have some kind of understanding of history of like how did how did my great great grandparents live

00:03:43.400 how did people two three hundred years ago live what what were their lives like um who did they

00:03:48.940 you know did they have families and extended kin networks and and neighborhoods and communities

00:03:54.540 that they were were deeply invested in a part of um and and those are things that that that just

00:04:00.440 don't exist anymore and they don't exist because everyone just forgot like, Oh, we just forgot how

00:04:05.920 to, how to live like human beings. No, it's been designed to be a way where you are totally

00:04:11.660 isolated. And the only, the only reason for existence for most people is just to consume

00:04:16.340 product to entertain themselves until they die. And we can get into the gayness aspect of it as 0.99

00:04:26.100 Well, does that need explanation? 0.99

00:04:28.320 I don't know.

00:04:29.900 Actually, it does.

00:04:30.840 It does.

00:04:31.620 Yeah.

00:04:31.920 It does.

00:04:32.920 You know, I can read some more of the section later on.

00:04:36.780 Well, before we get there, yeah. 0.98

00:04:37.620 So let's talk about, yeah, fake and gay. 1.00

00:04:39.720 Break it down. 1.00

00:04:40.240 Start with fake.

00:04:41.500 One of the things that you said that I found really helpful was just saying that one of

00:04:45.340 the reasons why our overlords can get away and our culture just at large can get away

00:04:50.140 with being so fake is because of the accrued capital that's come from like the industrial

00:04:56.980 revolution or, you know, just, um, the last hundred years of, of accruing just this, a massive amount

00:05:04.460 of wealth. Like Doug Wilson says it like this. He says like, you know, the prodigal, uh, when he

00:05:08.860 took his father's money, he didn't, he didn't spend it all, you know, overnight. It took a while for

00:05:13.280 him to actually, cause his, his dad worked hard. His dad was wealthy. So it's, it's a lot of wealth

00:05:18.360 that you got to burn through. And one of those things is, it's not just the capital and the

00:05:22.160 wealth, but it's also when you think about how people work today, how they produce because of

00:05:28.100 innovations and technology and all these kinds of things, it allows for us to pretend, especially

00:05:33.380 when we think about gender, it allows us to pretend that there really is no difference between male

00:05:37.620 and female because once upon a time, in order to produce, in order to work, you actually require

00:05:44.340 of physical strength in a way that we don't necessarily require it today. And so I thought

00:05:48.740 that that would be interesting to talk about the dynamics between men and women and those kinds of

00:05:52.620 things and how, you know, so. Yeah, no, I was just, I was just, when I, when I read that first

00:05:56.820 chapter, it reminded me of something that I've had conversations many times with people and

00:06:01.900 they've been thanking me for the videos I do, whatever. And one of the things they'll often

00:06:06.160 say is it was nice to know that I wasn't crazy. Yeah. Right. And, and that, and that is people

00:06:11.760 because, because your, your, your families are real. Your kids are really like you're,

00:06:16.180 you know, especially Christians, they've got a lot of times a connection with reality, 0.98

00:06:20.340 but then they see how fake everything is and they start to wonder, maybe I'm crazy. Right. 1.00

00:06:26.820 And when they see others that are like that, well, I guess I'm not. Yeah. That's where the

00:06:30.140 fakeness comes in here. Right. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, and that that's part of

00:06:34.220 the design too, is they want people to be isolated and alone so that when, when you notice,

00:06:40.560 oh things are not right everybody else is still you know plugged into the matrix and you're not

00:06:47.600 and you feel like you're the one that's taking crazy pills and and you you're completely alone

00:06:53.460 right you have nobody alongside with you that says no things are really bad so yeah when when

00:06:58.680 you read when you discover that you know there are other people that think like you do that see

00:07:02.740 these things are this way it's a huge boost you're not you're not alone you you aren't they want you

00:07:08.820 think you are, but, but you're not. And, um, that's, that's part of it. And, and to one of

00:07:14.520 the things Joel said, um, it isn't, it isn't just the, the, uh, material wealth that, that was

00:07:20.880 accrued over the last hundred or 200 years that were, uh, you know, the equity were, were quickly

00:07:26.720 burning through. Um, but it's also, it's also every other form of wealth, like social capital,

00:07:31.300 um and and just um inherited a virtue uh across an entire society and civilization

00:07:39.720 um that took you know decades centuries millennia to accrue and to build up like the idea uh and

00:07:48.800 you would see this um i remember you know like when i was in college that's when the the new

00:07:53.500 atheists like uh were doing their thing like christopher hitchens and and daniel dennett

00:07:57.860 and James Lindsay. Yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Like he was, he's the young guy. Like these are all

00:08:02.560 the old guys, but yeah, they, they were doing their thing and saying, you know, they were always 0.98

00:08:06.840 arguing that, oh, like I remember Christopher Hitchens was always like, oh no, man, man can

00:08:11.060 be good without God. We, we can have virtue without God. And in, in those days in the early

00:08:17.640 two thousands, you, you could say stuff like that, right? You could say, uh, because you could,

00:08:22.720 you could just be naive and think oh no we got we got all of this social capital and a fairly

00:08:28.280 virtuous stable well-ordered society just randomly just yeah it just appeared out of nowhere because

00:08:34.200 that's how human beings are right and today you know in year of our lord 2023 um they can't make

00:08:41.300 that same argument anymore uh that the world is actually very brutal brutal place um you know

00:08:47.540 even just the idea of being able to have a, a society where I come from very small town

00:08:53.200 and growing up, at least nobody would lock their doors. A lot of people still don't,

00:08:58.540 they don't lock their car doors. And, and when I went and lived in bigger cities, you know,

00:09:03.800 I tell people this, that's where, that's what people do there. They couldn't, they couldn't

00:09:07.300 fathom that. Like, how could you not lock your home when you leave? Like you're going to get

00:09:11.780 robbed um and uh and that's that's that's what's happened across our entire civilization you used

00:09:17.560 to be able to have uh very safe um communities where where people could live in peace and that

00:09:24.560 that didn't happen by accident that that kind of world was built um across a millennia of of

00:09:30.520 christian discipleship and we've we've burned through that very quickly especially in the last

00:09:33.960 20 years and um and so this this idea right that um that man could be good without god well that's

00:09:42.420 that's that's a much harder argument for these people to make and and people are beginning to

00:09:47.780 see this now that you you actually need the the capital that's been built up over generations to

00:09:54.160 um to be able to have a functioning stable society and and it's gone right gone and and so the

00:10:00.120 question is, and this is, this is stuff we'll get into over, you know, all of these episodes that

00:10:04.360 we're doing is how do you, how do you as an individual, right? What can, what can one man

00:10:10.280 do in a, in a world that's gone insane, right? What can one man do in a world that is, you know,

00:10:16.440 burns down cathedrals that took us, you know, two centuries to build, right? I think that like

00:10:20.860 the burning of Notre Dame is, um, it is kind of a, almost like a visual symbol of, of what has

00:10:28.540 occurred where here's this cathedral took you know hundreds of years to to finally complete

00:10:32.620 and it burnt most of it burns down in a single day and and that's that's trash world that's what

00:10:40.320 we've done is the this beautiful thing this beautiful structure our ancestors toiled over

00:10:46.600 they didn't even get to see it finished and it and and see the glory of this thing um it's it

00:10:52.680 it can go quickly and it's it is so it isn't just tangible material wealth which is the obvious one

00:10:58.960 it's it's everything it's it's having a society where people put their shopping carts back in

00:11:04.040 the cart corral and that's just assumed right uh things like little like even little tiny things

00:11:09.480 like that where you go to the you go to the fast food place and you expect to get good service

00:11:13.900 right or a restaurant and the person to like refill your drinks um yeah no vody bacham said

00:11:19.660 But I remember doing an interview with him and he said, you can tell, you know, what religion and what kind of like Christian capital a society has when you come to a four-way stop.

00:11:29.700 Yeah.

00:11:29.900 You know, like you can tell, like, has Christendom been here before, you know, or has it not?

00:11:35.260 Like, you know, what is just the mindset?

00:11:37.040 Is there law?

00:11:37.680 Is there order?

00:11:38.380 Is there consideration?

00:11:39.900 All those kinds of things.

00:11:40.780 And so, yeah, we're living in trash world.

00:11:42.660 We're living in a world that is quickly burning up the Capitol because in part, it's like

00:11:47.780 we refuse to recognize where it came from because we don't want to pay homage to Christ.

00:11:53.320 We don't want to kiss the sun.

00:11:54.340 We don't want to honor God and say that, well, this Capitol came from generations and generations

00:11:59.240 of people fearing the Lord and living in obedience to his commands.

00:12:03.120 And so we're pretending that it just fell out of the sky.

00:12:05.460 We're going to accredit everything to the inventions and innovations of man rather than

00:12:10.940 recognizing that these inventions and innovations came from a Christian worldview, acknowledging

00:12:16.080 God. So that's, you know, that's some of the fakeness, but to talk about a little bit of 0.95

00:12:19.740 the gayness, I want to just say this too. One thing, cause it's one thing that you reminded me 1.00

00:12:24.240 of, it seems to be accelerating too. So, and it kind of reminds me, I think it's, it might've

00:12:29.520 been Hemingway. They asked him how he went broke and he said, you know, little by little and then

00:12:33.420 all at once. Right. Yeah. You know what I mean? And it certainly seems like that's happening,

00:12:36.820 You know, where, where we, over time we've been engineered into this fakeness and all that capital that you're talking about is kind of, you know, been, you know, we've been taking it out, not depositing anything back in.

00:12:48.100 And now it's like, we got almost nothing.

00:12:52.140 What do we have?

00:12:52.800 Like there's, there's very little capital left.

00:12:55.480 Right.

00:12:56.620 So it's just, it seems to be accelerating.

00:12:58.280 And I think lots of people have picked up on that recently.

00:13:01.900 Right.

00:13:02.160 Which is a grace.

00:13:02.920 like i've told you know people and i know you guys have probably said the same but like 2020 was a

00:13:06.440 mercy from the lord in the sense that things got worse but they got worse finally bad enough and

00:13:12.120 quick enough um to where you know maybe somebody would notice and back to back you know and back

00:13:17.240 to back exactly all over like a year yep and so that really was a mercy so you know the fake

00:13:22.520 factor is there so trash world two big components it's it's a fake world it's not real uh we're 0.94

00:13:28.200 pretending but also it's as you said it's a gay world and so in this i'm just going to go ahead 0.91

00:13:32.600 had to read a portion. In the 1980s, as the AIDS epidemic was at its height, the leftist French

00:13:38.900 philosopher, Michael Foucault, nevertheless continued to regularly attend bathhouse orgies 0.82

00:13:45.580 and homosexual sadomasochistic clubs. He famously wrote, sex is worth dying for. He meant what he 0.99

00:13:54.500 said. He died of AIDS in 1984. See, for the homosexual, insatiable desires must be pursued

00:14:03.220 even knowing it will cost him his life. In economic terms, he is the ultimate high-time 0.98

00:14:10.080 preference man. The ultimate high-time preference man. He only lives in the present. There is no

00:14:19.120 thought for the future. He is quite obviously incapable of pursuing offspring. He is willing

00:14:24.880 to cut off any and all social relations that prevent him from pursuing his predilections. 0.99

00:14:31.400 In short, the homosexual is both the apex consumer and the easiest personality to manipulate 0.98

00:14:38.840 and lord over. That's our society. People are easy to manipulate because we've been reduced 1.00

00:14:47.920 to our basis desires. It's all about vice. It's not about virtue. We call vice a virtue. We call

00:14:55.040 virtue a vice. People want what they want. They want it now, want supersede actual needs,

00:15:01.900 in part because we refuse to acknowledge what are the true needs of humanity because

00:15:06.020 we've rejected theology, the study of God, who God is, and so therefore we're off on our

00:15:10.780 anthropology, who man is. Therefore, we can't define what man actually needs to thrive as an

00:15:16.320 individual and in the society. And so if we don't actually know who God is, therefore we don't know

00:15:21.020 who man is, therefore we don't know what man requires, then it's just, okay, forget what man

00:15:25.620 requires. What does man desire? What is this man, me? What do I want? I want it. I want it now. And

00:15:31.220 I live for that. And it doesn't matter. Who cares about what it's going to do to me in the long run

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00:17:50.180 So it's not just about men having sex with other men.

00:17:53.440 Gainess goes way beyond that.

00:17:55.580 Yeah, right.

00:17:56.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:17:57.380 Yeah.

00:17:57.560 So when you use the term, and that's kind of, you know, the title that we're kind of playing

00:18:01.320 around with this episode, you know, it's proposed.

00:18:03.160 We'll see what it actually ends up being. 0.99

00:18:05.160 But the title is, you know, trash world, fake and gay. 0.99

00:18:08.280 but then saying how this, you know, actually seeped into the church, how evangelicals are 0.99

00:18:15.340 gay and that they've become spiritual homosexuals, that they become, and what we mean by that is 0.96

00:18:21.380 not that they actually are sexually attracted to the same sex, but we're saying that evangelicals 0.98

00:18:26.600 by and large, sadly, to our shame, we've become fruitless. We've become fruitless.

00:18:32.880 Yeah. Yeah. We've adopted this, the same mindset and lifestyle that, that the homosexual has. I mean, that's, that's what our culture has, has become is, is to a fruitless society that lives to consume, right? Whatever produces and immediately consumes, right? That's, that's the kind of, of, of world that we live in today.

00:18:55.820 And it, of course, like within the church and within, you know, both regular evangelical churches and, you know, the big Eva on high that kind of influences everything, it gets dressed up, you know, it gets dressed up as in very holy pietistic language. 0.77

00:19:14.260 like you can put lipstick on that pig really well and uh and you see that i mean you see it

00:19:20.460 especially um over the last 10 or 15 years where people will will talk about the the gift of 0.66

00:19:27.260 singleness and how right how singleness is so great and so wonderful and like why are they

00:19:32.360 saying this who are they saying this to they're saying it to the you know the young 20 30 something

00:19:36.600 year old people who um you know have have jobs have careers things like that and have a little

00:19:43.060 little bit of income. And instead of forming families, instead of getting married and having

00:19:48.600 children, um, they, they don't, uh, for whatever reason, maybe they can't find a spouse, maybe they

00:19:53.840 don't want to find a spouse. And so it gives them this kind of cover of you're perfectly fine the

00:19:58.780 way you are. Just go pursue your life. Go, go, uh, on vacations, have fun, you know, uh, go have

00:20:06.060 brunch with your friends every, uh, on the weekends and take pictures of the, of the food

00:20:11.380 and put it on Instagram. That's a perfectly wonderful, wholly fulfilling lifestyle. And

00:20:17.840 well, Jesus never got married. Paul never got married. So you're just like them. And so they

00:20:23.300 can dress it up that way. But really what it is, is giving license to the same thing that we're

00:20:29.600 talking about, a society that is intentionally fruitless, that is intentionally consumerist

00:20:37.020 and hyper-consumerist where you're not producing anything for descendants for any any any you know

00:20:44.280 um any culture right even even going back to to some of the stuff we already talked about you see

00:20:50.040 the people who who lose their minds over um over uh christian culture right um and or cultural

00:20:59.740 christianity rather right yeah uh and and they they they hate it i mean you like famously russell

00:21:05.420 more, uh, decried, you know, decried it in, I think the New York times or one, one of a publication

00:21:10.640 and said, oh, Mayberry leads to hell just as swiftly as Gamora. And, and he thought that

00:21:16.700 was such a clever, great line. And it's like, I want to live in Mayberry. I don't want to live

00:21:22.240 in Gamora. Um, yes, people go to hell in both places, but for very different reasons. And,

00:21:27.820 and, um, and, and so you, you see this, it's like, no, we, we can let the Christian capital 0.95

00:21:34.360 burn down. We can burn through all of that. And that's good because that's good for the church 0.99

00:21:38.920 because persecution is great. But one of the big differences between Sodom and Mayberry is not just 0.98

00:21:45.120 that they go to hell for different reasons, but the way that the people who are going to hell

00:21:49.280 treat the people who are going to heaven, right? Like in Sodom, the way that Lot gets treated,

00:21:56.480 right? So in a bad city or a good city, there's going to be people who are unregenerate. There's

00:22:02.640 going to be people who are. And that's not even to get into the percentages and numbers, because

00:22:07.000 I think in a good city, I think that actually does lend towards more people actually being born

00:22:12.660 again by grace alone, too faithful in Christ alone. But aside from the numbers, the people,

00:22:17.380 whatever it is, the people who are regenerate, the people who are God's elect, who are going to

00:22:21.800 heaven, Mayberry is going to allow them to live in a heavenly way with far less persecution and

00:22:28.900 opposition, then Sodom is going to allow Lot and his daughters to live. So it's just categorically

00:22:34.500 different. How is that not a net positive, especially when you have children? Like to

00:22:39.000 think, you know, it's like I have kids. I'm not just thinking about the life to come. That is

00:22:44.280 premier and it matters immensely. But I'm also thinking about my children, their physical

00:22:49.620 welfare here and now. I'm thinking about where can I raise them, where they're going to be

00:22:54.280 protected, where they're safe, and where I'm even allowed to raise them and where they won't be

00:22:58.660 taken away from me you know and all those kinds of things so yeah and and and so much of it is

00:23:03.540 you know if you're if you're burning through this this uh this christian the capital of

00:23:08.240 cultural christianity i mean god uses means right um i always tell people you know when they ask

00:23:14.040 well why are you a christian it's like why i was raised by a christian family and most of the

00:23:19.080 people around me were were christians growing up um christian uh at least you know moral practice

00:23:25.940 pervaded the whole society, whether or not people actually believed in Jesus or not. And all of

00:23:31.320 those things are means that God used to bring me to him. And if I was not raised in a Christian 0.99

00:23:39.000 family and everybody I know everywhere hated Jesus, that's a lot harder.

00:23:44.780 Absolutely. It always boggles my mind when guys like Russell Moore say stuff like that,

00:23:49.700 because they almost want to shame you if your story of how you became a Christian is something

00:23:53.760 like what you just said that that's not legitimate you're not a legitimate christian if that's how

00:23:57.540 you came yeah that's just not how it works in reality you know i've told you a little bit about

00:24:01.440 my story on the drive here and you know i was not always a believer you know and i did a lot of

00:24:05.740 degenerate things but when i you know came to the end of myself i ran to the church because that's

00:24:13.540 how i was raised my father raised me in that context my brother and my you know my sister my

00:24:18.580 mother, all my family, they were Christians. And so when I knew that I was a disaster and 1.00

00:24:23.420 the final straw, you know, we won't talk about that. That's what I did. I went to the church

00:24:29.140 because I knew that's what, that's how I was raised. There's everything good about that.

00:24:34.220 And in Mayberry, there's going to be people that do the exact same thing. And in Sodom,

00:24:39.740 their lot is pretty bleak if they come to the end of themselves. Because usually rock bottom

00:24:46.360 for them is something disastrous and where do they go there's nowhere to go there's nowhere to

00:24:49.840 go yeah right yeah that's a great point yeah precisely yeah so with all that you know i think

00:24:54.560 about like um well going back to the singleness for a second like so that's i mean that's been

00:24:59.580 a huge lie singleness is a gift just for the record uh biblically speaking singleness is not

00:25:03.860 a gift celibacy is a gift so um and there's a lot of people who think what's the difference joel 0.98

00:25:09.020 well the difference is that uh if you're single and masturbating uh then you don't have a gift 0.98

00:25:14.880 Yeah. You don't have the, you know, you don't have the gift of you shouldn't be single. Yeah. Like the one who burns. And that's another thing is like the Bible, what it prescribes to the problem of lust is marriage. And if you're really struggling with lust, then the Bible says marry faster, you know, that you actually should pursue marriage. 0.96

00:25:31.680 And right now you've got a bunch of, thanks to the Gospel Coalition and some of these teachers, you've got a bunch of single, you know, individuals, men and women, who actually, you know, have been talked into thinking that what they have is a gift.

00:25:44.220 But at the end of the day, many of them are not living in sexual purity.

00:25:50.480 And so they're like, they're not actually, you know, they don't actually have the gift of celibacy.

00:25:55.040 They shouldn't be single.

00:25:56.720 They should be.

00:25:57.320 That burning, that passion should be a driving force.

00:26:00.260 And there's a million reasons why single singleness is prolongated in our culture today.

00:26:04.840 And we'll get to some of those.

00:26:05.740 But, you know, part of it is economics.

00:26:07.340 Part of it is pornography.

00:26:08.660 Part of it, you know, there's but part of it is bad teaching in the church. 0.94

00:26:11.780 The world, the world doesn't really want when you think of, again, that the fakeness and the gayness, you know, being you can't reproduce. 1.00

00:26:19.820 You're fruitless. 1.00

00:26:21.040 You're on.

00:26:21.440 It's YOLO.

00:26:22.040 You only live once.

00:26:22.860 You're living for this generation.

00:26:24.180 This is the apex of humanity.

00:26:25.500 we've climaxed and we're just, we just want another good, you know, 20 to 50 years. And

00:26:30.520 then we don't care if, if all of humanity, you know, ceases to exist, that's the mindset of the

00:26:34.860 world. But that has seeped into the church as well, I think in many ways. And so when you think

00:26:40.500 like, even for like a team of elders or deacons, you know, a pastor, if, if he, if he persuades

00:26:47.160 everybody in his church that they should get married and that they should have children and

00:26:51.780 that if the lord would bless them towards this end they should seek to have many children and

00:26:55.840 they shouldn't rely on the public school system to raise those children for them so that means

00:27:00.100 they're going to be paying extra tuition for a christian school or not be able to rely on a

00:27:04.940 second income from mom because she's going to be in the home homeschooling um what all those have

00:27:10.620 numbers attached to them there's math involved with that well this and and what you see all the

00:27:14.760 math associated with all this stuff it is definitely difficult to do the things that

00:27:20.020 you're saying to actually have a family to have a household to have children um and to not rely

00:27:25.580 on the dual income like you're saying this is extremely difficult and this book that's an

00:27:30.840 intentional thing that it's become difficult right it's not just random because we know all

00:27:36.200 the stories from our parents about what their house costs when they bought it and what they

00:27:41.000 made you know my dad's a nuclear engineer and he told me what he made you know when i was a kid

00:27:46.620 and it just completely blew my mind i mean that's what an administrative assistant makes now or a

00:27:51.700 desk worker a receptionist and yet you know we had a decent standard of living it was more money he

00:28:00.260 made he made less but in real it was more yeah buying power it was infinitely more way more and 1.00

00:28:05.900 so part of the part of the trash world and the fakeness and the gayness of it is this artificial 0.99

00:28:11.140 way that it's been become difficult to actually have a real life right yeah you don't you don't 1.00

00:28:16.440 see it it's not like um it's not like it's this overt thing where oh now now you you know you went

00:28:26.700 to college and you have your career and all of this and now you should be able to afford a home

00:28:31.740 and be able to get married and have children because that's what your parents did and and now

00:28:35.760 it takes it takes for many people that second income just to be able to keep their head above

00:28:41.140 water yeah uh and that like you said that's by design they've they've sapped uh things away it

00:28:45.860 isn't like you know now you know now the tax rate is at 90 when it was at 30 before uh but

00:28:52.900 functionally it is they've they've sucked away so much wealth through inflation um and and through

00:28:58.760 various other you know economic degradations um that you see the dollar amount that you make

00:29:05.180 compared to what your dad made in like 1985 and uh you think i make so much more money than my dad

00:29:12.380 made when when he was my age but you don't at all you make way less in real terms and and that's not

00:29:18.900 by accident they they want people to be stuck in this way where you're where any you barely have

00:29:25.300 any expendable income uh the hope of of yeah living living how human beings have lived for

00:29:31.440 millennia of having a wife and children is just out of reach it's it's something i i'm never going

00:29:37.380 to be able to get to that point right um they they want you to think that they they want you to think

00:29:41.720 that way of life is impossible so don't even try spend all of your discretionary income on uber

00:29:48.020 eats and netflix and only fans and and that's um that's you know that's good for them because they

00:29:54.820 get they get all of that consumable money right away rather than you you know squirreling it away

00:29:59.980 and investing it right by you know putting it toward a house things like that that's that's

00:30:04.180 money that's off you know off limits yeah to you know the people in power uh they don't want

00:30:09.980 regular people to have investment they can just take it through inflation right yeah um and so

00:30:15.160 it it's it's set up for the people that rule over us to extract the maximum amount of wealth that

00:30:21.740 they can. And the result is, um, major, uh, sociological suffering. Um, and, and they don't

00:30:29.840 care about, I mean, from the top down, they don't care about the longterm. They, they think like

00:30:33.900 the other, you know, the other one is like John Maynard Keynes, who's kind of the architect of

00:30:37.200 the entire economic system that we live under, uh, who is also, uh, coincidentally, uh, not 0.84

00:30:42.760 coincidentally, uh, homosexual. Uh, he, uh, his, his famous quote is when people ask, well, in the 0.87

00:30:49.000 long run, how, how is this going to work out? And his famous reply is, well, it doesn't matter,

00:30:55.660 we'll be dead, you know? And, and like, that is the mindset of, of our world.

00:31:01.200 And it's the ultimate gay mindset. 1.00

00:31:02.640 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And, and, and so it's the same mindset that, you know, the, the previous few 0.99

00:31:07.940 generations when they enjoyed massive wealth and they didn't realize that it was massive wealth,

00:31:12.680 they just worked hard and, and lived in very good economic conditions. They worked extremely hard

00:31:18.980 and they thought, well, my own hands have gotten me this wealth. And so I'm going to hoard it. I'm

00:31:23.320 not going to, you know, pass it on to my children. I'm going to, I'm going to live a nice, comfortable

00:31:27.720 life. That's a Bible verse, right? My own hands have gotten me this wealth. I think that's somewhere

00:31:32.240 in there. Yeah, it is. It's not a good one. No, it's not. It's not a good one. And now we're

00:31:38.940 paying for it, right? Now we're paying for the live, you know, for today and not for tomorrow.

00:31:45.820 well, tomorrow is here and, and all of the seed corn has been eaten through and we have much,

00:31:51.240 much less to plant. And, and so I don't, you know, I don't want to like black peel everyone

00:31:55.740 and be like, ah, everything is bad. Just despair. This book is not a black. No, no. I mean the 1.00

00:32:01.040 beginning of like a few people are like, oh, I started reading it and it just got me so depressed

00:32:04.680 and I'm like, keep reading. We'll get there. Keep reading. We'll get there. But it is, but in order

00:32:10.240 to be able to do anything actionable you have to assess what the situation actually is right you

00:32:17.500 can't have this rosy colored picture of the way the world is and and because a lot of people think

00:32:23.200 this like i'm i'm naturally very optimistic which apparently optimism uh we've discovered is is not

00:32:29.080 holy yeah it's definitely not holy definitely not a masculine trait it's not a masculine masculinity

00:32:33.620 is fat what is it fat uh defenseless very pessimistic and pessimistic weak and pessimistic

00:32:40.920 everyone will forget about that tweet by the time this comes out but uh this will be a flashback 0.60

00:32:45.400 but uh you should be optimistic you should i mean you should hope for the best and prepare for

00:32:52.060 the worst and you in order to do that you have to see okay how are things the worst right now

00:32:58.180 and and what are the things i have to do to overcome the situation that i'm actually in

00:33:02.880 We have to deal with reality as it is. And so dealing with the reality that we're in

00:33:07.240 can be pretty depressing for a lot of people to, you know, when you take your, like an ostrich,

00:33:13.640 your head out of the sand and you see the things actually are really bad. Uh, it can, it can,

00:33:18.600 you know, make you pretty worried, but, uh, you can't stay that way. You have to think, okay,

00:33:24.140 what do I do now? You're in, you're in like a survival situation. Like you see like different,

00:33:27.780 you know, shows and movies where the guy crash lands on the Island. And, and once he gets over

00:33:32.200 the shock of, of realizing a situation, he has to like, like, you know, Tom Hanks and Castaway

00:33:37.900 or something has to begin to do things in order to survive and take real steps. And that's,

00:33:43.600 that's the situation that, that, that we're in here today. And all of us are in is what can we

00:33:49.020 do as individuals? We can't just hope for, oh, somehow, you know, the, the Caesar or the

00:33:55.260 Protestant Franco will come and make everything right out of nowhere, or, or there'll be this 0.86

00:34:00.140 randomly, this national divorce, things will get bad enough and all the, all the good red

00:34:05.020 states will secede and that'll fix everything. And it's like, no, you can't just hope for these 0.57

00:34:09.320 massive events, these black swan events that maybe will come, maybe won't come. And that'll

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00:36:49.900 To your point, you know, this fake gift of singleness,

00:36:55.340 you know, I really, oftentimes, 1.00

00:36:57.860 I've known some of these kinds of women 1.00

00:36:59.420 that are single into their 40s 1.00

00:37:00.860 and, you know, Instagramming their trip to Punta Cana.

00:37:03.440 I mean, you know, Paul wasn't married.

00:37:05.960 Jesus wasn't married. 0.70

00:37:07.160 There's a purpose in that.

00:37:08.480 They weren't going to, you know, spring break.

00:37:10.640 Right.

00:37:11.020 With their, you know, posting.

00:37:12.400 In their 30s.

00:37:12.960 Right, right.

00:37:13.580 And I got to be honest with you, when I see those kinds of pictures, it makes me sad because

00:37:19.360 at the end of the day, like a lot of that is really fake.

00:37:23.360 They post the picture of their food because that's the best thing they've got going on

00:37:27.780 right now.

00:37:28.560 You know what I mean? 1.00

00:37:29.800 And I know that many of those women, I don't know all of them, but many of them are deeply

00:37:35.360 sad.

00:37:36.060 And if they're not sad yet, they're going to wait a couple of years and they're going

00:37:39.660 to be.

00:37:40.360 And some of this stuff is coming out.

00:37:41.700 if you've noticed, there've been like TikTok videos and things like that of women realizing

00:37:46.000 that it was all a lie. And now they're almost 40 and they're alone. And they can't post another

00:37:53.740 picture of their meal. Like they can't do any of it. And their career is nothing. It's just like,

00:37:58.980 it's deeply sad. It's deeply sad. And I think that the pastors and the influencers that are

00:38:07.580 promoting that as normal. It is not normal for a woman to be single in her 30s, you know,

00:38:13.940 going to Punta Cana every year. That's not normal. Right. Not only is singleness not a gift, 0.94

00:38:18.700 really, biblically speaking, we could say that it's a curse. If you don't have the gift of

00:38:23.340 celibacy that makes singleness possible, that makes singleness in a righteous method possible

00:38:30.480 to where you're righteously single, that you're single with holiness, then it's a curse. And even

00:38:39.820 beyond that, you think of, there's so many things that not even that long ago, not just biblical

00:38:44.840 writers, 2,000 to 3,500 years ago, but even just a couple generations ago, certainly a couple

00:38:50.980 hundred years ago, if you didn't have any posterity, if you didn't have a son to carry on

00:38:56.980 your name like uh this was viewed as a curse from god i mean biblically speaking like i mean this

00:39:02.300 god's word even says people would weep over yes they would weep over this it's like god didn't

00:39:06.180 give to us any children you know like um or god didn't give us any sons like right now i've got

00:39:10.680 three girls and one son i'm so grateful for um for the four children that i have and my wife and i

00:39:15.700 you know we if the lord allows we want to have more and if we have more girls praise god because

00:39:20.680 my daughters are just the greatest thing that ever happened to me but i hope that we have another boy

00:39:26.000 in part uh because right now my son franklin webbin is um on on every side of my family he's

00:39:33.260 the only of of his generation the only weapon that exists male weapon um and and the name if if not

00:39:39.580 the name is just going to be gone if so and so right now it's all writing on him so i'd like to

00:39:43.900 just you know in mercy help him out give him a brother you know right so so it doesn't all write

00:39:48.720 on him he can kind of share that burden you know but but that's you know that's so sad you see this

00:39:53.980 too like i mean recently with all of the um you know you know rumors of war and things things like

00:40:00.540 that um you see the select a service tweet out um if you're the last male in your family name

00:40:06.880 you're not you're not exempted you still have to register for the draft and that wasn't the

00:40:11.400 reason they say this is because it's kind of in the lore of the american uh populace that during

00:40:16.620 world war ii and vietnam things like this um that was the case if you were the last son and all your

00:40:22.960 other brothers went off to war, you were exempted from having to go serve because they wanted to

00:40:28.560 preserve their names. That was a deep part of our culture. And with them saying that now,

00:40:34.380 it's like, ah, sorry, too bad if your family is wiped from existence. That's the way it is.

00:40:39.680 And you even see this with the Bible. In the Bible in ancient Israel with the Leveret law,

00:40:45.120 where posterity really, really matters and maintaining a family line really matters so

00:40:49.980 much so that if there is, um, a single brother, he's supposed to marry his, his dead brother's

00:40:57.540 widow to raise up posterity for his dead brother. Right. Um, and you think like, oh, that's kind

00:41:03.100 of antiquated and that's this barbaric bronze age kind of, uh, ritualism. And of course that's,

00:41:09.440 that's the, uh, you know, the ritual law in, in, uh, the Bible, it's not binding, it's on the old

00:41:15.020 covenant, it's not today, but there's, there's still this kind of wisdom that you can take from

00:41:18.400 and it is carried over throughout all of the history of christendom that you want to preserve

00:41:22.980 your posterity you want to to carry on your family name that's that's a real thing that people

00:41:27.500 you know used to care about used to care and and now they don't you see this with you know kind of

00:41:32.440 like um with like older you know boomer relatives talking to their kids who don't you know never got

00:41:38.080 married or they did get married and they don't have kids like when are you gonna give me grandkids

00:41:41.000 when are you grandkids and um and it's become almost a trope of millennials like stop ragging

00:41:46.580 i mean mom and dad i just want to live my life and and that's that's a major failure um and in part

00:41:53.320 you know the boomer generation they many of them only had one two or three kids right when their

00:41:59.000 families they grew up having six seven eight kids ten kids um and and despite having the you know

00:42:05.760 material prosperity to be able to provide for that many kids they they decided not to so children

00:42:10.760 are this form of wealth that we have um decided to not produce uh in order to have material wealth 0.98

00:42:20.700 it's gone gay yeah exactly yeah yep that's right back full circle fake and gay when we say gay we 0.94

00:42:26.260 say what we're saying is fruitlessness and sadly that really has seeped into it's not just the 0.80

00:42:30.620 world that we live in but that is the mindset of many questions that you'll brush up against on

00:42:35.060 you know a daily basis if you talk to them like if you talk to them about um i have four kids

00:42:40.880 already and my wife and i you know uh we intend to have more uh because we only have one son

00:42:46.940 and we'd like to have two to further our line like most christians that i share that with i have no

00:42:52.680 doubt many people watching this podcast will you know get in the youtube comments and you know and

00:42:56.360 be upset like you don't want more girls right you don't want more girls yeah exactly and it's like

00:43:00.220 Well, I, I love my, my girls, but I have three of them and I have one son, you know?

00:43:04.760 And so, and if the Lord gives me a fourth girl, praise God, you know, but, but that's

00:43:09.360 like, we have no concept for that.

00:43:11.040 And I'm, again, I'm not talking about the pagan world that hates God.

00:43:14.380 I'm talking about the pagan church that hates God. 0.90

00:43:16.880 I'm talking about, you know, those who are Christian in name only. 1.00

00:43:20.080 Some of them are not regenerate. 1.00

00:43:21.560 Many of them are not regenerate, but for those who are regenerate, they're so immature and

00:43:24.980 so uneducated and so detached from from the way from biblical thinking like they don't even realize

00:43:31.960 how much it's like oh so you you know whether it's forms of government democracy like democracy

00:43:37.020 must be biblical and it's like it's it's so convenient right it's just so convenient that

00:43:41.220 like all of your thoughts you say these thoughts are biblical thoughts are they biblical thoughts

00:43:44.720 or are they they thoughts that are they thoughts that that haven't really been thought by anybody

00:43:50.000 and humanity until 60 years ago and so you've you've isolated them into the bible you know so

00:43:55.280 you said everybody thinks this way so it must be biblical right right that's that's the typical

00:43:59.520 thing and usually it's like really well-meaning people it's not people who are like intentionally

00:44:04.960 subversive right i think this way it's people that don't know any better and they've never

00:44:08.240 questioned oh well is democracy good i don't really know is is not having kids good i don't

00:44:13.440 really know like that that's never been the thought has never been challenged right it's 0.72

00:44:16.960 never been talented the gayness sometimes runs very covertly i think because what i've noticed 0.50

00:44:22.200 too is a lot of the the men who would uh encourage you know women and men in their singleness as a

00:44:28.220 beautiful gift a lot of these guys have big families i've noticed you know they they have

00:44:33.360 their kids in christian schools they they on so they're doing what is the right thing but they've

00:44:39.920 they've they've accepted the fakeness and the gayness of this world so much that they've kind 0.72

00:44:45.640 have gone a little gay they don't pass it on yeah they don't pass on what they themselves are doing 0.77

00:44:50.460 yeah the opposite of what jesus says about the pharisees where jesus says yeah right listen to 0.89

00:44:56.920 what they say they sit in moses seat but did not do what they do yes uh it the reality is uh don't

00:45:03.900 listen to anything they say yeah do the things that they're doing exactly right and and that's 0.92

00:45:07.800 what i mean it's like it's like the the gayness is is a little deeper in that situation you know 0.96

00:45:13.280 what i mean because they're doing all the right things a lot of time it's it's amazing and sometimes

00:45:17.140 it's funny you know you get you know pastors that you know viciously defend public school you know

00:45:22.680 they've got people in their congregations that go to public school so they want to defend it

00:45:26.140 they send their kids to classical christian school the sad thing about that is that how is that any

00:45:31.980 different that pastor in an evangelical church any different than kamala harris like that's exactly

00:45:36.700 what like our our atheist you know politicians do right with lockdown with lockdown yeah

00:45:42.300 you would hope so with lockdowns in 2020 and everything that happened like that was one of

00:45:46.860 the big things that conservatives were saying and rightfully so is that they were saying well what

00:45:50.780 is it you guys you know um you're talking about you know all the virtues and the the wonderful

00:45:56.120 thing about you know the yellow who doesn't love a yellow school bus you know and like who doesn't 0.86

00:46:00.100 you know about public school uh meanwhile all your kids are all your kids are in pods like these

00:46:05.620 which you've hired uh like a private you know latin speaking you know professor to come and

00:46:12.000 teach your six kids between these three families privately in your gated community right you have

00:46:17.020 hired security as you're as you're saying defund the police yeah and so and so all we're saying

00:46:21.820 i i think you know one of the big themes that we're getting across in this episode is it's all 0.66

00:46:26.080 fake it's all gay you live in a dystopian it's here now it's not something that might happen 0.86

00:46:30.260 it's here now so we got to talk about what to do about it and the only thing i'm trying to drive 0.97

00:46:34.380 into the episode in addition to that is just saying and and the difference uh the difference 0.93

00:46:39.700 between the trash world of of uh secular culture and the trash world of the evangelical church 0.79

00:46:45.740 is uh very minimal that that difference those lines are blurred with with um all these different 0.98

00:46:52.040 copes right all of these very holy pietistic rationales um on top of it yeah where it's like

00:46:57.600 i mean the signals singleness one is is a big one but also you know when people talk about the

00:47:02.080 idolatry of the family uh right you know exactly in that context and it's like okay you know i

00:47:07.220 remember reading like and i like kevin young but his article on that and i get it where you see

00:47:12.380 families saying oh we're not going to go to church today because we're going to do family time right

00:47:15.540 we have my son has a baseball game or things like that it's like yeah that's idolatrous but it's not

00:47:19.820 the family that he's idolizing it's baseball yeah it's baseball or it's uh getting to spend time

00:47:26.180 with your kids and not go to church yeah you're not um it's it's you can certainly take um certain

00:47:33.100 things well some people probably when they when they hear you talk about oh yeah you should have

00:47:37.440 a lot of kids it's like well am i not holy if i only have three kids and we're not you know we're

00:47:42.460 not we can't have any more uh did i is that and of course of course not or they'll say that's

00:47:47.840 that's idolization i know people that had 10 kids and they they shouldn't have had so many because

00:47:51.700 they can't afford it and and things like that and they made an idol of it and it's like okay

00:47:55.980 that it's not as though there aren't extremes that you can go to but that's the whole thing

00:48:00.500 when i when i say evangelicals are no different than the pagan culture is that what the pagan 0.58

00:48:04.080 culture has done to get to become so debased is that we've lowered everything to the the lowest

00:48:09.120 common denominator so no kid left behind uh and how are we going to do that we're going to make 0.99

00:48:13.160 sure every kid's stupid like none of them none of them will be able to read but what my whole point 0.99

00:48:17.540 again is that the evangelical church has taken the exact page out of the culture you know pagan 1.00

00:48:23.100 culture's playbook like so what we've done is we've said well some people are single and they're

00:48:27.920 lonely so then so then uh we don't right yeah so you know so every single time that like we could

00:48:34.320 you know try to talk about the virtue of fatherhood and motherhood and this and that

00:48:38.500 what about the single people so so then what in a nutshell what happens in in our culture

00:48:44.360 and there's no difference it happens in the church is that the footnote becomes the headline

00:48:49.280 100 of the time footnote becomes the headline and the headline becomes the footnote so now instead

00:48:54.280 of saying marriage and family are good and yet there are a few individuals that god calls to

00:48:59.260 be single that's instead it's uh singleness is good you know but i guess it is permissible

00:49:05.820 you know to have some kids i guess it's and then you wonder like okay here we are that's why we're

00:49:11.980 where we are and a lot of it too i think is in part of it is this sort of um quasi gnosticism

00:49:20.200 where all you care about is, is, you know, spiritual life and the, the, you know, the,

00:49:26.900 the heavenly life and eternity and, and everything is, what am I doing for eternity? What am I doing

00:49:32.320 for eternity? Um, and neglecting things and duties that you have here on earth. Um, and you know,

00:49:39.960 God, God created this world, uh, and he wants it. It's his, and he wants people to continue on

00:49:48.640 generation after generation you see this in the bible like this emphasis on posterity and

00:49:52.440 generations and a future uh and it's tangible it's real it's not gnostic right uh they're real

00:49:57.680 flesh and blood human beings that you need to create into the next generation and and we just

00:50:03.000 we just totally neglect that because it doesn't sound very holy to talk that way it doesn't sound 0.82

00:50:08.040 very you know it sounds very earthly fleshly like right you know in order to create more children

00:50:13.200 you have to have sex and that's not holy you know like that's that's kind of like the attitude

00:50:17.140 that, that, uh, these people have, and it's, it, and it, it, it, it plays out in all of these

00:50:24.100 things. And so that this, the, the quasi, you know, pietistic Gnosticism that, that many

00:50:28.700 evangelicals, you know, take almost solace in, um, fits hand in glove with a fake and, and gay 0.57

00:50:35.600 world, uh, because they both are not focused on any future in the, in the world. They're focused 0.99

00:50:42.140 on either, um, you know, their fleshly desires here and now or, um, heaven, heaven that isn't

00:50:49.640 here right now. 17th dimension. And so you, you neglect the actual duties that you have into the

00:50:55.320 future, um, to, to your children, to your, to the people around you. Um, what, whether, whether

00:51:00.700 you're married and having, you're going to have kids or have kids or are, you know, actually called

00:51:07.020 to singleness, you still have duties to the posterity

00:51:10.000 that God is bringing in, that those duties still exist.

00:51:14.120 And that should be the focus of God's people

00:51:17.840 is what are we doing here now on the earth?

00:51:19.840 What are we building?

00:51:20.820 What kind of culture are we creating?

00:51:22.420 Are we building this big, beautiful cathedral

00:51:25.680 or are we burning it down?

00:51:26.860 And so many people think burning down the cathedral

00:51:30.660 is much more holy.

00:51:31.860 Yep, you're right.

00:51:33.460 And that's kind of leads us into our second episode.

00:51:35.500 So we'll leave it here, but the second episode

00:51:36.920 we want to talk about is uh loser theology excellent evangelicals are committed to losing

00:51:42.440 and we're going to draw out some more of those um those key characteristics of how do we lose

00:51:47.160 the game and why that's wrong and how we can win instead so thanks for tuning in awesome

The NXR Podcast - December 09, 2024

THE INTERVIEW - An Epidemic Of Spiritual Homosexuality - ICYMI w Andrew Isker and @ADRobles

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