Pastor Joel Webman sits on the board with Right Response Ministries and helps us make decisions for the glory of God and the good of his people. In this episode, Pastor Webman is joined by A.D. Robles, who has been a good friend for a long time and is a master at discernment. God bless!
00:00:00.540Applying God's Word to every aspect of life. This is Theology Applied.
00:00:10.980All right, welcome to another episode of Theology Applied. I'm your host, Pastor Joel Webman with
00:00:15.100Right Response Ministries. In this episode, I am very privileged to welcome my friend,
00:00:19.840A.D. Robles. A.D., say hi to the good people.
00:00:23.700Hello, everybody. I am glad to be back on the show, man.
00:00:26.940AD, for all of those who don't know, he is on the Fight Laugh Feast Network and has been putting out great content for a long time and has been a good friend for at least a couple of years, probably over a couple of years at this point.
00:00:39.120I think it was Ewan Harris came out back in, I believe it was 2021 or two.
00:00:45.660So anyways, we've been friends for a while.
00:00:47.520He sits on the board with Right Response Ministries and helps us make decisions for the glory of God and the good of his people.
00:00:53.940And one of the things I like about AD, besides just his friendship, is I don't even know
00:05:15.120this is happening and you're black-pilling.
00:05:17.240You know what I mean? It's just so good
00:05:19.240because there's just so much out there.
00:05:21.220So I'm looking forward to the conversation.
00:05:23.340Yep. So let's start with that. Because I think I was thinking the same thing. Andrew Torba is a great place to start. And the reason why he's a great place to start is because this is a guy who I think really knows what time it is. And this is not a naive, you know, Barney Fife, happy-go-lucky, everything is sunshine and rainbows kind of guy. That's not who Andrew Torba is.
00:05:44.260And Andrew Torber, for instance, has been very outspoken about the problem of Zionism, you know, and that, you know, like controlled opposition, you know, that we really, you know, we don't even have a two party system. It's a one party system. Whoever wins the election, we know that the true winner who will sweep every state in the Electoral College will be Bibi.
00:06:01.460netanyahu will he will be the true winner you know of every election and has been you know for
00:06:06.920decades and uh and those kind of my point in bringing that up isn't even to say that that's
00:06:12.120right although i do think that that's right um but my point in bringing it up is that's andrew
00:06:17.200torba like if you followed his account for you know just even a year much less the last five
00:06:24.540years or something like that like he is constantly pointing out you know the stranglehold of the deep
00:06:30.800state on all of politics, on all of media platforms, that the truth has been buried
00:06:37.800six feet underground, that it's all a ploy, it's all a play. And so to see him the last couple
00:06:46.560months just relentlessly, it's really amazing. It's been so encouraging. But like multiple times
00:06:54.480a day just coming out and uh when you know when people when your typical black pillars you know
00:07:00.740are saying like everything is bad and and you know um nothing ever happens the nothing ever happens
00:07:06.920bros um and torba's coming out and he's like no we're we're gonna win we're gonna win we're gonna
00:07:13.360this just happened this just happened this just happened and and talking about how all of it's
00:07:17.460good you know so like trump picks uh vp you know jd vance and your black pillars immediately start
00:07:24.060posting yeah here's a picture of vance at the wailing wall you know kissing the wall like
00:07:28.400wearing the little hat you know and and then we're all supposed to say yeah you see jd vance you know
00:07:33.480or they post how he recently uh backtracked on you know that jd vance was was stalwart for the
00:07:39.700life of the unborn and then they show like and it's true it like he did compromising he did
00:07:44.700backtrack he's still certainly more pro-life than a lot of guys in politics but but it is a concession
00:07:50.480And it's not, you know, it's discouraging.
00:07:53.260And with those things, those are the kind of things that usually Torba would highlight, right?
00:09:52.520Baseball, on the other hand, the regular season in baseball, there's 162 games, Joel.
00:09:56.720So if you lose a game, there's a game tomorrow too.
00:10:00.240So, you know, you've got to get ready for it.
00:10:01.700But what happens is you have to manage those games differently.
00:10:04.700So in the Super Bowl, whatever happens, you've got to win that game.
00:10:09.520In baseball, you've got to manage your resources over 162 games.
00:10:15.220So there could be a game where, you know, things are going really poorly for your pitcher,
00:10:19.480but you don't necessarily want to replace him because you don't want to, you know,
00:10:23.720gas the rest of your relief pitchers for the rest of the series, right?
00:10:26.580Like you've got to manage that appropriately.
00:10:29.040And so what ends up happening is in any particular game,
00:10:32.000you have less than optimal situations that you just have to deal with and you have to figure it
00:10:36.700out because you know just because your pitcher you know gave up five home runs in the first inning
00:10:40.760it doesn't mean you pull them because it doesn't really matter if we win this game we got to set
00:10:45.100ourselves up for success right and so I think a lot of people especially Christians and I was one
00:10:50.640of them look at politics like the Super Bowl where it's like if we don't get everything right and we
00:10:57.360don't win this game this election it's all over there's no tomorrow that's not the case ever it's
00:11:04.440not the case it's more like baseball where you've got to manage your resources for the future as
00:11:09.420well so you're trying to win today but also you recognize maybe our pitcher just doesn't have it
00:11:14.500today right and i look at these politicians and and our situation like the the wailing wall is
00:11:19.720such a funny example because it's so similar to the abortion thing right where you've got
00:11:25.520well he kissed the wall so it's all over for him you know what i mean right um and and here's the
00:11:31.540thing like whether because some people think jd vance is no better than the democrats on abortion
00:11:36.660that's insane in my opinion but whatever you're you're well you're well if you want to take that
00:11:41.100fine but in in our situation there is no non-wall kisser on the ballot you're going to be kissing0.72
00:11:48.140the wall and if you're going to accept that jd vance is no better than democrats that's insane
00:11:52.680But if you want to say that, OK, so then there is no non good or good abortion candidate on the ballot.
00:11:58.980There is none. Right. OK, but we still have a game in front of us and we still have to figure out how to win, if not today, tomorrow.0.84
00:12:06.980And so we're looking at managing our resources that we have today.
00:12:10.940God's given us certain resources and certain ones he has not given us.
00:12:14.800He did not give us Dusty Devers, her president. Right. Right.
00:12:18.920So we've got to manage with the resources we have now.
00:12:22.300And so that's where you got to look for these white pills, man, because, yeah, they both kiss the wall.
00:12:27.480But also J.D. Vance has said and done a lot of other stuff, too, about Israel and about that whole situation that we can look at and discern the difference between him and Carmela.
00:12:51.500But we have a series to head towards justice, to head towards a good situation when it comes to abortion.
00:12:58.860And so we've got to think about our resources and how to manage them today, like a baseball manager.
00:13:03.920And you look at what J.D. Vance has said in the past, what he's saying now.
00:13:07.860You look at Trump's actions in the past because he used to be president and he did certain things.
00:13:12.580Listen, the Democrats know what time it is.
00:13:14.420They look at Trump and what they're trying to kill him on is the fact that he was proud to appoint the judges that overturned Roe versus Wade.
00:13:37.140And so even in those situations where, like, where that's kind of a black pill, yeah, the Republicans kind of softened on abortion a little bit.
00:13:45.040That's a black pill, you know, kiss the wall.0.55
00:14:00.840I know the Super Bowl versus baseball analogy is not perfect, but it is sort of like that.
00:14:07.740I used to look at politics, and you hear it all the time, this is the most important election of our lifetime, and it's always true, whatever.
00:14:14.140But they look at it like the Super Bowl, where it's all or nothing.
00:14:17.160We've got to do everything we can for that election and think about only that election.
00:14:22.260And if there's not the perfect solution there, it's almost like you don't even play the game.
00:34:15.340He was talking about, you know, how, you know, when it comes to the abortion issue, all of these great people that we love, I love all the abolitionists, you know, when they go to the abortion clinics, they're begging women not to kill their children, right?0.54
00:35:09.280But you've got to be honest with yourself.
00:35:11.780When you make those choices, you are dealing in reality there because you know that what could be done, that would be probably strategically really awful.
00:35:24.800Even if you would be justified, even if God would have your back and you'd be with him in heaven and he'd be saying, well done, good and faithful servant, all of that.
00:35:32.560You don't do it because you're dealing in reality.
00:35:35.720And the thing is, you've got to bring that into politics, too.
00:35:59.760I love mine more and I love mine more because, um, I'm commanded to, if I didn't, um, then,
00:36:04.820then i you know i'm disqualified as as a pastor and arguably even as a christian worse than an
00:36:09.380unbeliever denying the faith um and my point of this is if if somebody if some woman abducted
00:36:15.040one of my born children and had them in the back of the car and is you know stepping on you know
00:36:20.920pedal to the metal and and heading off to um to a clinic where there's going to be a hit man that
00:36:27.540she's going to pay to you know to euthanize my child um i'm not going to hold a sign and preach
00:36:35.380the gospel no you're not i'm going to go a lot further yeah i'm going to go a lot further um
00:36:41.120and every abolitionist we know likewise would go a lot further why because they're good men
00:36:46.140they're good men absolutely we're not putting them down they're good men of course they would
00:36:50.040go further because they should um and so yeah there's there's more that could be done you know
00:36:55.360Doug Wilson said this back in the day. I don't know if you remember it, but talking about
00:36:59.140Lincoln, and it's good to see, talking about white pills and ways we can unify, it's good to see that0.88
00:37:03.740the left has finally figured out that Abraham Lincoln was gay. I have no pushback whatsoever.0.66
00:37:09.280I'm like, hey, I've been on that train for a while. I've thought he was a gay president for0.97
00:37:13.460years now, and so it's good to see the left catching up to speed. But my point is that0.97
00:37:18.420And Doug, back in the day, he said, do you think that a civil war in America at the cost of 650,000 lives of our sons bleeding out on this soil, do you think that that was worth it to abolish slavery?
00:37:36.060And, you know, everybody, you know, it's just this, you know, everybody says what they're supposed to say.
00:37:41.940You know, so people are like, oh, of course it was.
00:37:43.400Slavery is atrocious and we should have done whatever it takes.
00:37:45.700And not just 650,000 lives, it should have been, you know, like, it would have been worth it if it was six and a half million lives, you know, and on and on it goes.
00:37:55.020And then, you know, when Doug is asking this question to evangelicals, to Christians who are, you know, purportedly, you know, pro-life, he says,
00:38:03.680then why aren't we taking up arms and going to the level of all-out war to save the lives of unborn?
00:38:14.040You're talking about there were this many slaves, X many slaves in the United States, whatever it was, 2 million or something like that.
00:38:20.080But there's been arguably 60 to 70 million, and that doesn't even track all the numbers of early on abortions with pills and things like that.
00:38:27.680But 60 to 70 million dead babies in the last 50 years because of abortion.
00:38:35.600Why are you not going to war, taking up arms, storming the White House?
00:38:41.980Why are you not doing all these things that we hinted out earlier?
00:38:46.820You know, there's more that could be done.