The NXR Podcast - THE INTERVIEW - No More Black Pilling with AD Robles

00:00:00.540 Applying God's Word to every aspect of life. This is Theology Applied.

00:00:10.980 All right, welcome to another episode of Theology Applied. I'm your host, Pastor Joel Webman with

00:00:15.100 Right Response Ministries. In this episode, I am very privileged to welcome my friend,

00:00:19.840 A.D. Robles. A.D., say hi to the good people.

00:00:23.700 Hello, everybody. I am glad to be back on the show, man.

00:00:26.940 AD, for all of those who don't know, he is on the Fight Laugh Feast Network and has been putting out great content for a long time and has been a good friend for at least a couple of years, probably over a couple of years at this point.

00:00:39.120 I think it was Ewan Harris came out back in, I believe it was 2021 or two.

00:00:45.660 So anyways, we've been friends for a while.

00:00:47.520 He sits on the board with Right Response Ministries and helps us make decisions for the glory of God and the good of his people.

00:00:53.940 And one of the things I like about AD, besides just his friendship, is I don't even know

00:00:59.440 how to describe it.

00:01:00.460 I don't even know, in terms of biblical categories, I guess discernment would be the closest label

00:01:04.820 I could come up with.

00:01:05.600 But AD, your instincts, like there's a lot of guys who are too smart for their own good.

00:01:13.340 And they may be good theologians, but their instincts, they're just wrong.

00:01:18.320 They're just wrong all the time.

00:01:19.600 you know, like guys who like, you know, something's happening in the world, current event,

00:01:24.440 cultural, political, whatever it might be. And otherwise solid guys who you, you would buy their

00:01:30.740 book, you would, you would read their stuff, you would listen to their sermons. And yet, you know,

00:01:35.960 and they're co-belligerents on one thing, you know, it's like, yes, he was awesome on, you know,

00:01:41.240 standing up against mask and COVID. But then you get to the next thing. It's like, I feel like for

00:01:46.160 the last four years, I'm sure God's been doing this for decades, but especially the last four

00:01:50.500 years, I feel like God has been providentially giving to evangelicals every six weeks another

00:01:57.020 IQ test. And A.D. Robles, he just is a master of passing the IQ test, whatever it is. It's just

00:02:05.040 like his instincts are on it. Every time there's a new dividing line, A.D. is just, you can count

00:02:11.760 on him to take the right side that he's uh yeah so i i'm just impressed so i because your instincts

00:02:17.760 are just always i'm always right yeah there you go because your instincts are always right

00:02:22.840 um i thought man let's get let's get ad on to talk about white pills and what i mean by that

00:02:29.480 is um right now in terms of the you know the current iq test that the lord continues to give

00:02:35.040 us is like um you know the issues like um can a christian vote for donald trump you know and

00:02:40.620 it's like every six weeks, there's a new thing and it just, you know, it just breaks evangelicals

00:02:45.840 brain, just break, just shatters their brain. People lose their minds and, and, and I'm talking

00:02:51.500 about good guys, good guys who otherwise they are co-belligerents on everything. It's like, man,

00:02:56.060 you were in the trench with this, you're in the trench with that. And you start to think, you

00:02:59.460 know, it's this band of brothers. It's like, we're on the same side, we're brothers in arms, you know,

00:03:03.520 and then, but then there's like the next IQ test and they flunk it. And all of a sudden they're

00:03:08.140 not in the trench anymore. They're on the other side and they're firing at you. And we've seen

00:03:13.180 this happen for four years, you know, again and again and again and again, you know, Michael O'Fallon,

00:03:18.500 you know, and then boom, it's like, okay, like he's devoted his life to destroying Christian

00:03:24.760 nationalism. Like how, how, you know, how is that, you know, like the biggest problem right now,

00:03:30.180 it's not chopping off kids' genitals, it's Christian nationalists who want the nation to 0.98

00:03:34.120 be Christian. Like really, really. So this happens again and again and again, and you continually 0.99

00:03:40.760 have good instincts, the sixth sense. And right now, you know, it's not maybe the level of Michael

00:03:47.060 O'Fallon and Christian nationalism, but again, once again, I feel like we have some splintering

00:03:51.940 in the ranks with, you know, the most recent IQ test, a lot of it having to do with politics and,

00:03:58.100 you know, Donald Trump and his VP, you know, pick with J.D. Vance or, you know, Project 25,

00:04:04.760 you know, there's all these things. And I just, I feel like the headline of the story right now

00:04:11.340 for Christians should be, Aslan is on the move. Like there's some really, really, really great

00:04:16.320 things happening. And I know you have good instincts. So I think that you probably feel

00:04:20.220 the same way. And I thought we could just do 30 minutes of encouraging our brothers in arms.

00:04:25.660 God is doing something, and now is not the time for despair.

00:04:30.840 Oh man, that's so good. And by the way, I appreciate all the kind things you said about me.

00:04:36.320 Some of it is true, so I appreciate that. But anyway, yeah man, there's white pills everywhere,

00:04:42.920 man. You just have to have the eyes to see them. You know what I mean? Like, you're always being

00:04:48.320 offered white pills and black pills all the time, and sometimes it's even the same situation before

00:04:53.340 you. You can see it for a certain way

00:04:55.280 and feel all black-pilled

00:04:57.280 and despairing, or you can

00:04:59.240 look at it and maybe

00:05:01.300 it's not the greatest news you ever heard, but there

00:05:03.240 are white pills there available.

00:05:05.200 Right now, though, I don't know

00:05:07.240 if you've followed Andrew Torbis' feed at all, but

00:05:09.220 I was going to bring him up, yep.

00:05:10.880 He's got so many great tweets

00:05:13.340 where he'll say,

00:05:15.120 this is happening and you're black-pilling.

00:05:17.240 You know what I mean? It's just so good

00:05:19.240 because there's just so much out there.

00:05:21.220 So I'm looking forward to the conversation.

00:05:23.340 Yep. So let's start with that. Because I think I was thinking the same thing. Andrew Torba is a great place to start. And the reason why he's a great place to start is because this is a guy who I think really knows what time it is. And this is not a naive, you know, Barney Fife, happy-go-lucky, everything is sunshine and rainbows kind of guy. That's not who Andrew Torba is.

00:05:44.260 And Andrew Torber, for instance, has been very outspoken about the problem of Zionism, you know, and that, you know, like controlled opposition, you know, that we really, you know, we don't even have a two party system. It's a one party system. Whoever wins the election, we know that the true winner who will sweep every state in the Electoral College will be Bibi.

00:06:01.460 netanyahu will he will be the true winner you know of every election and has been you know for

00:06:06.920 decades and uh and those kind of my point in bringing that up isn't even to say that that's

00:06:12.120 right although i do think that that's right um but my point in bringing it up is that's andrew

00:06:17.200 torba like if you followed his account for you know just even a year much less the last five

00:06:24.540 years or something like that like he is constantly pointing out you know the stranglehold of the deep

00:06:30.800 state on all of politics, on all of media platforms, that the truth has been buried

00:06:37.800 six feet underground, that it's all a ploy, it's all a play. And so to see him the last couple

00:06:46.560 months just relentlessly, it's really amazing. It's been so encouraging. But like multiple times

00:06:54.480 a day just coming out and uh when you know when people when your typical black pillars you know

00:07:00.740 are saying like everything is bad and and you know um nothing ever happens the nothing ever happens

00:07:06.920 bros um and torba's coming out and he's like no we're we're gonna win we're gonna win we're gonna

00:07:13.360 this just happened this just happened this just happened and and talking about how all of it's

00:07:17.460 good you know so like trump picks uh vp you know jd vance and your black pillars immediately start

00:07:24.060 posting yeah here's a picture of vance at the wailing wall you know kissing the wall like

00:07:28.400 wearing the little hat you know and and then we're all supposed to say yeah you see jd vance you know

00:07:33.480 or they post how he recently uh backtracked on you know that jd vance was was stalwart for the

00:07:39.700 life of the unborn and then they show like and it's true it like he did compromising he did

00:07:44.700 backtrack he's still certainly more pro-life than a lot of guys in politics but but it is a concession

00:07:50.480 And it's not, you know, it's discouraging.

00:07:53.260 And with those things, those are the kind of things that usually Torba would highlight, right?

00:07:57.800 That would not be the footnote.

00:07:59.120 That'd be the headline.

00:07:59.860 The headline would be, you're excited and think that we're winning, you know, but that's just because you follow the Daily Wire.

00:08:08.280 And, you know, he's the kind of guy who usually is crushing the dreams of guys who think that Ben Shapiro is a conservative.

00:08:14.780 Like, you're a normie conservative person.

00:08:17.180 Andrew Torba is your worst nightmare.

00:08:18.720 He's constantly crushing your dreams and saying, no, no, no, no, no.

00:08:22.220 It's far more sinister, far more bad than you actually think it is.

00:08:26.300 And right now, he's like the exact opposite, the exact opposite.

00:08:30.400 He's like Elon Musk is, God's using him in great ways.

00:08:35.020 J.D. Vance, yeah, he goes and kisses the wall, but that's the state of our politics.

00:08:38.920 You don't get elected unless you salute Israel.

00:08:42.080 That's just where we are.

00:08:42.980 I mean, every single like Thomas Massey said, every guy in American politics has an APAC handler.

00:08:49.860 You know, so you just you can't get anywhere unless you do this.

00:08:52.720 That doesn't mean that that's really where he's at.

00:08:54.820 He's playing politics.

00:08:56.380 Wait and see in November.

00:08:57.940 Blah, blah, blah.

00:08:58.500 Like from here until then, no counter signaling Trump.

00:09:01.320 White pills only.

00:09:02.400 And I just think that that's good instincts.

00:09:04.960 Yeah, I think so.

00:09:05.780 So I just did a video just today, actually, or I recorded yesterday, where I was talking about this kind of thing.

00:09:13.540 And I'm sorry to do this to you.

00:09:15.440 I know you're not that into professional sports, but you know about the Super Bowl.

00:09:19.700 I know.

00:09:19.920 You know what that is, right?

00:09:21.040 It's the one game that decides who's the champion of the league, but it's just one game, right?

00:09:27.120 So it's not like other sports where there's a whole series, the final series of games.

00:09:31.080 It's just one game.

00:09:32.040 And so in that game, you've got to go for broke.

00:09:34.700 You know, if your quarterback's arm's about to fall off, tough luck.

00:09:37.760 You're playing because we've got to win this game.

00:09:39.220 There's no tomorrow, right?

00:09:41.340 And so it's all about winning that one game.

00:09:44.600 There is no tomorrow.

00:09:46.200 And so you manage that game going for broke, and you've got to be perfect.

00:09:50.340 You've got to have purity there.

00:09:52.520 Baseball, on the other hand, the regular season in baseball, there's 162 games, Joel.

00:09:56.720 So if you lose a game, there's a game tomorrow too.

00:10:00.240 So, you know, you've got to get ready for it.

00:10:01.700 But what happens is you have to manage those games differently.

00:10:04.700 So in the Super Bowl, whatever happens, you've got to win that game.

00:10:09.520 In baseball, you've got to manage your resources over 162 games.

00:10:15.220 So there could be a game where, you know, things are going really poorly for your pitcher,

00:10:19.480 but you don't necessarily want to replace him because you don't want to, you know,

00:10:23.720 gas the rest of your relief pitchers for the rest of the series, right?

00:10:26.580 Like you've got to manage that appropriately.

00:10:29.040 And so what ends up happening is in any particular game,

00:10:32.000 you have less than optimal situations that you just have to deal with and you have to figure it

00:10:36.700 out because you know just because your pitcher you know gave up five home runs in the first inning

00:10:40.760 it doesn't mean you pull them because it doesn't really matter if we win this game we got to set

00:10:45.100 ourselves up for success right and so I think a lot of people especially Christians and I was one

00:10:50.640 of them look at politics like the Super Bowl where it's like if we don't get everything right and we

00:10:57.360 don't win this game this election it's all over there's no tomorrow that's not the case ever it's

00:11:04.440 not the case it's more like baseball where you've got to manage your resources for the future as

00:11:09.420 well so you're trying to win today but also you recognize maybe our pitcher just doesn't have it

00:11:14.500 today right and i look at these politicians and and our situation like the the wailing wall is

00:11:19.720 such a funny example because it's so similar to the abortion thing right where you've got

00:11:25.520 well he kissed the wall so it's all over for him you know what i mean right um and and here's the

00:11:31.540 thing like whether because some people think jd vance is no better than the democrats on abortion

00:11:36.660 that's insane in my opinion but whatever you're you're well you're well if you want to take that

00:11:41.100 fine but in in our situation there is no non-wall kisser on the ballot you're going to be kissing 0.72

00:11:48.140 the wall and if you're going to accept that jd vance is no better than democrats that's insane

00:11:52.680 But if you want to say that, OK, so then there is no non good or good abortion candidate on the ballot.

00:11:58.980 There is none. Right. OK, but we still have a game in front of us and we still have to figure out how to win, if not today, tomorrow. 0.84

00:12:06.980 And so we're looking at managing our resources that we have today.

00:12:10.940 God's given us certain resources and certain ones he has not given us.

00:12:14.800 He did not give us Dusty Devers, her president. Right. Right.

00:12:18.920 So we've got to manage with the resources we have now.

00:12:22.300 And so that's where you got to look for these white pills, man, because, yeah, they both kiss the wall.

00:12:27.480 But also J.D. Vance has said and done a lot of other stuff, too, about Israel and about that whole situation that we can look at and discern the difference between him and Carmela.

00:12:38.680 You know what I mean?

00:12:39.940 Same thing with abortion.

00:12:41.780 You know, Trump.

00:12:42.460 Yeah, he's not the greatest on abortion.

00:12:44.840 But when you're looking at winning in the future, because we're not going to win that issue today.

00:12:49.380 It's not the Super Bowl.

00:12:51.500 But we have a series to head towards justice, to head towards a good situation when it comes to abortion.

00:12:58.860 And so we've got to think about our resources and how to manage them today, like a baseball manager.

00:13:03.920 And you look at what J.D. Vance has said in the past, what he's saying now.

00:13:07.860 You look at Trump's actions in the past because he used to be president and he did certain things.

00:13:12.580 Listen, the Democrats know what time it is.

00:13:14.420 They look at Trump and what they're trying to kill him on is the fact that he was proud to appoint the judges that overturned Roe versus Wade.

00:13:22.400 He was.

00:13:23.460 He was proud of that.

00:13:24.740 He is proud of that.

00:13:26.080 And the Democrats know that that's not good for their baby-killing ways.

00:13:30.300 Right.

00:13:31.540 But is he perfect?

00:13:32.880 No, he's not perfect.

00:13:34.080 He's not my ideal candidate.

00:13:35.660 Right.

00:13:36.060 But we still got to manage that.

00:13:37.140 And so even in those situations where, like, where that's kind of a black pill, yeah, the Republicans kind of softened on abortion a little bit.

00:13:45.040 That's a black pill, you know, kiss the wall. 0.55

00:13:47.080 That's a black pill.

00:13:48.360 But there's white pills all over the place there, too.

00:13:50.580 You just got to see them and you got to work with what you have.

00:13:53.020 Right.

00:13:53.780 Amen.

00:13:54.440 Yeah.

00:13:55.640 Not allowing the perfect to be the enemy of the good.

00:13:59.980 Yeah.

00:14:00.620 Yeah.

00:14:00.840 I know the Super Bowl versus baseball analogy is not perfect, but it is sort of like that.

00:14:07.740 I used to look at politics, and you hear it all the time, this is the most important election of our lifetime, and it's always true, whatever.

00:14:14.140 But they look at it like the Super Bowl, where it's all or nothing.

00:14:17.160 We've got to do everything we can for that election and think about only that election.

00:14:22.260 And if there's not the perfect solution there, it's almost like you don't even play the game.

00:14:25.780 That's not the way it is.

00:14:26.660 It's a long grind, and we've got to consider it as a long grind.

00:14:32.220 Christ's eventual takeover of all the nations, it's a grind. 0.60

00:14:36.960 It's going to be a grind most likely, and then we're going to have the situation we want. 0.73

00:14:42.020 But the thing is, it's weird to think that that means we don't act unless it's optimal.

00:14:50.620 It's very weird.

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00:17:32.360 accomplish um more a lot more yeah um that you know like the idea of uh being able to um limit

00:17:41.480 immigration and uh and close the border i mean even like with jd vance it's like um like that

00:17:48.140 right there to me is just a massive white pill in the sense that um i mean trump could have he

00:17:54.480 could have chosen you know nikki haley you know or oh my goodness you know oh my gosh it would

00:17:58.860 have been terrible um or that other woman from uh you know whatever montana or wherever she's from 0.74

00:18:04.500 the one who was always shooting things yeah yeah yeah yeah christy uh christy gnome is that who it

00:18:09.320 was that's the one yeah yeah or um or tim scott you know like um sure but he he didn't and and

00:18:15.360 that's uh incredibly encouraging thing that um right now it's like evangelicals are like you

00:18:21.320 know well the the republican party is no longer my party and you know what i hate to say this but i'm

00:18:25.820 i'm glad i'm glad yeah because what what was the gop when uh when it was you know considered to be

00:18:33.740 you know the evangelicals party well what it was was uh guys who never did anything they didn't do

00:18:38.800 anything all they did was just repeat ad nauseum this you know a pro-life rhetoric um but these

00:18:45.320 guys weren't pro-life they did nothing for the for the unborn and here's trump who you know i feel

00:18:50.820 like it's like the two servants you know jesus tells the parable you know the two sons and uh

00:18:54.940 you know the father asks his two sons to go in the field and work for him and you know the first son

00:18:59.660 says no um you know i'm not going to do it and the second son says yeah sure dad i'll be there

00:19:04.200 you can count on me um that's been the gop for 40 years is the second son yeah sure dad and but

00:19:10.140 then he doesn't show up trump you know is like you know the older kid and and again that's not

00:19:14.760 perfect because the ideal would be the third son who actually tells his father yes and does the

00:19:18.900 right so yeah i'm like i'm not saying that we we can't have you know that it can't be improved

00:19:23.500 certainly we we do want to see um better than trump one day we want to see you know we want

00:19:29.340 to see the christian prince who you know in in word and in deed fully acknowledges the lord jesus

00:19:34.600 christ um but i would take maga um every day of the week and twice on sunday over uh george bush

00:19:42.400 sure yeah and and that's where we're at right now is um is we have a party that um that is not

00:19:49.740 they're not evangelicals they're just not these are this is not an evangelical party this is a

00:19:55.940 party of kind of you know you know this this i i don't i don't know what how to describe it but

00:20:03.580 like a 1990s almost 1990s democrat like clinton kind of thing but um but they kick butt and take

00:20:12.020 names and actually yeah um like i i think trump will um will do something he's because he's done

00:20:19.360 something before absolutely i think that's the other thing too about politics it's it's it's um

00:20:25.060 it's all you know it's all about listen it would be great if we had a country full of christians

00:20:30.320 and and we know our political parties were full of christians again it's not the reality it's not

00:20:35.400 the situation that we have and there's so many reasons for that i'm not you know i i'm not

00:20:39.760 qualified to go into the reasons why that happened, but that's the truth. And so we've got the

00:20:45.040 Republican Party now is not the Christian Party. Maybe it used to be. It's not anymore. But we 0.98

00:20:52.460 still have a significant seat at that table. They still absolutely try to placate Christians, 0.83

00:20:59.600 at least in rhetoric and in some degree in action. That's a good thing. It's a good thing to have 1.00

00:21:06.540 even a little bit of resources

00:21:09.480 or political capital that we can use

00:21:11.440 with a party that is

00:21:13.600 not all bad. It's not bad top to

00:21:15.580 bottom, right?

00:21:16.680 And guys who are saying it is, I've heard guys say

00:21:19.160 the GOP is now virtually no different

00:21:21.600 from the Democrat Party.

00:21:23.060 That's insane. Well, it's insane because it's like

00:21:25.400 if that's the case, then why didn't

00:21:27.360 Dusty Devers run on a Democrat ticket?

00:21:30.040 Why isn't he a Democrat

00:21:31.060 senator? You have to

00:21:33.320 keep in mind that the GOP, is it compromised?

00:21:35.140 yes is it distinctly christian no but it is still conservative enough and broad enough

00:21:41.620 to where dusty deavers a full-fledged abolitionist who told people exactly what he was going to do

00:21:48.720 up front i want to abolish porn i want to abolish abortion i want to abolish no-fault divorce i want

00:21:55.620 to like he just straight up saying all that stuff said all out loud and and won and he won on a gop

00:22:02.600 ticket as a republican right as a republican state senator so the party that still allows for dusty 0.51

00:22:08.580 deavers is uh a hell of a lot better than the party um that wants to you know to shoot trump

00:22:16.120 in the head right right and and i think also the other thing that we need to keep in mind too is

00:22:22.300 that that that's the party that is that is winnable like we could the christians could

00:22:27.120 actually uh take over that party and be the leading voice and hey if you want to join us

00:22:32.560 and you're a hindu fine but we're going to be doing christian things here you know what i mean

00:22:36.320 like okay like that's how it is so um we could still do that it's still it's still possible and

00:22:41.900 it's still it's still winnable and i think effort should be put into that um but it's definitely i

00:22:46.320 mean that's very different than the other side of this i mean the other side of this is upside down

00:22:51.540 the other side of it is completely against christianity the other side of it thinks christianity

00:22:56.480 is bigoted you know what i mean so so we we should be grateful i think to god that there is still a

00:23:02.880 place for us it's not a great it's not as great as it used to be because it could easily be that

00:23:08.340 both parties don't give a flying rip what christians say right or do or think that that

00:23:13.420 that's a situation that does exist out there so like um anyway yeah i to to me a lot of that

00:23:20.880 rhetoric of oh it's no better than the democratic party and stuff like that um first of all i don't

00:23:26.000 think people that say that really believe it it's just a talking point and second second of all um

00:23:30.860 that that's that's the mindset of the super bowl right we don't have a party because it's not the

00:23:36.320 perfect party it's not the party that does everything that they should do uh it's not it's

00:23:40.800 not there's no purity there right you think that politics is all or nothing and by the way by its

00:23:46.880 nature it isn't that that's never that even in the bible when you have good this is another thing like

00:23:52.440 you read the bible of the various kings and stuff of course those politics are different than ours

00:23:57.280 but um you know there are kings and they're doing these great things they get commended by god can

00:24:02.700 you imagine god commending you you did what was right in his eyes even those people are compromisers

00:24:09.700 they're they're even those people did a mix of good and bad so it's like like we we need to we

00:24:16.520 need to deal in reality the bible deals in reality it's honest about those kings that were after

00:24:21.940 god's own heart but also they didn't they didn't cut down the high places you would think that

00:24:27.980 would be where you would start if you're if you're an israelite the high places but they don't and

00:24:34.120 yet they're still commended by god see it the bible deals with reality as it actually is politics as

00:24:40.560 it actually is and it's not so easy like i like to i like to quip sometimes like if i well if i was

00:24:45.820 emperor for the day i would do this all immediately it's not so easy like even if you're emperor for

00:24:50.660 the day you do still have to deal with reality you you can't just do anything you want the people

00:24:56.680 will kill you right you know what i mean they will revolt and they will have your head right

00:25:01.440 so it's not like you know it's the easiest thing in the world and in our system it's even more 0.56

00:25:06.420 difficult because there's voting and things like that so like like we just this is the this is the

00:25:12.840 biggest change to my politics because i i admit that i've changed my view on this because i used

00:25:17.140 to say things that i don't agree with now um but politics is is is always like it is the art of the

00:25:26.280 deal there's always deals being made you're always gonna have to deal with people that get you some

00:25:33.220 of what you want and then some of what you don't want it's the realm of the possible not the realm

00:25:37.740 of the perfect yeah it's like what yeah what can you actually you know what can be unburdened by

00:25:43.880 what has been. No, but it's what can be, not what should be. Obviously, what should be is your

00:25:50.960 guiding force, your virtues, and the guiding force that brings you into the political realm

00:25:56.980 that's informing every single one of the decisions you're making. But at the end of the day,

00:26:01.280 the decision you're making is a best possible scenario, not an idealistic scenario. Politics

00:26:09.900 is not for Peter Pan. Politics is not Never Ever Land. Politics is not where you sit down

00:26:16.100 with a blank page and you write a fairy tale. Politics is here's real people, real situation,

00:26:21.940 real world. Now put this together. Not the ideal that you wish you had. This is what you have.

00:26:29.280 And you now must assemble the best possible, not the perfect, but the best possible scenario that

00:26:35.680 you can, given the pieces that you have. And I think that right now with the lay of the land,

00:26:42.100 it's like, well, why don't we have a Dusty Devers type Christian prince running for president of 0.95

00:26:49.440 the United States? Here's the hard truth, right? So this one is a black pill. The reason we don't 0.94

00:26:54.760 have that is because America is not pro-life. It's just not. And I'm talking about American

00:27:01.940 conservatives um republican voters um are not they're not actually pro-life they're not maybe

00:27:09.200 they were once upon a time they're not anymore that is not vote for him they would not vote for

00:27:13.760 him there is no possible way you would yep we know abolition rising would but the thing is

00:27:18.820 there's just not enough of us right right and so so then you have someone like trump and here's the

00:27:24.860 deal. Like, on one hand, I do think that he's moved to the left on the issue of life. And I've

00:27:33.220 publicly on my podcast said, Mr. Trump, you need to repent of this. You need to believe upon the

00:27:37.320 Lord Jesus Christ. You need to stand stalwart as a defender for the unborn. And I'll continue to

00:27:45.000 say that. I will continue to call him. I think that's part of the church's role is a prophetic

00:27:49.500 role of calling kings and princes to repentance. And so I'll continue to do that. That said,

00:27:55.580 yeah, I think he's moved to the left. I think he's compromised. That said, there is, and this

00:28:01.340 one's hard for bright-eyed, bushy-tailed evangelicals, but politicians, AD, I don't

00:28:07.900 know if you know this, but they lie sometimes. Did you know that? I've heard, I've heard. Yeah.

00:28:15.240 so i've i've been i've been reliably informed um that that's a part of politics um and so i'm not

00:28:21.400 saying that doesn't mean that you know i'm not saying and therefore you know donald trump once

00:28:24.940 he's elected he's gonna you know put a a you know federal ban on abortion you know day one in office

00:28:29.680 i'm not saying that i'm not predicting that uh but i do know uh that that trump governed far to the

00:28:37.320 right of how he campaigned back in his first term so he campaigned as as a pretty secular squishy

00:28:47.980 republican i mean he cam he campaigned to the left of george bush and then governed far to george

00:28:56.240 bush's right sure so who's to say i can't say you know it's you know that i don't want to have a

00:29:02.000 double standard here um so i can't say uh that's what he's doing again right now i don't know i

00:29:06.620 don't have a crystal ball i'm not a prophet or the son of a prophet um but in the reverse you

00:29:11.260 also you cannot definitively say um that that trump is not being at least a little bit strategic

00:29:18.420 here knowing the populace knowing you know the times and where we're currently at and knowing

00:29:23.820 what's required in order to get elected in these degenerate states of of america um and that he

00:29:30.980 won't do exactly not just it's not just a possibility we're talking about would he

00:29:35.160 potentially do something that he already did that he's already done before campaigning a little bit

00:29:39.900 to the left and then governing a little bit to the right i think that's entirely possible especially

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00:31:50.180 the way it should be we should have a much bigger influence on the country than we do we don't

00:31:54.320 that's okay so but the thing is when you think about the kinds of people that you can influence

00:32:00.620 even if it's indirectly even if there's degrees of separation jd vance is that kind of guy

00:32:06.660 and pete booty geek or whatever i we i don't even know if we speak the same language but the thing

00:32:13.900 is like that but this is this is the the difference there if you i'm sorry if you're if you're not

00:32:18.680 willing to admit the difference between a guy like jd vance and a guy like booty geek um and

00:32:26.160 your ability to to to move forward with either one of those persons in the vp or president slot

00:32:32.340 or whatever it is like like you're just not being honest with yourself you know what i mean booty

00:32:38.620 booty geek needs jesus just like jd vance needs jesus but one of those persons is way more

00:32:45.060 reachable and influenceable and and and someone that will have your back and someone that actually 0.98

00:32:50.820 hates your guts and thinks you're scum like there's there's an obvious difference right and

00:32:55.540 look vance isn't perfect we get it but the thing is he also says stuff like quote we are effectively 1.00

00:33:02.640 run in this country by a bunch of childless cat ladies who are miserable in their own lives and 1.00

00:33:07.360 the choices that they've made so they want to make the rest of the country miserable too 0.95

00:33:10.420 this guy gets it he gets it he gets it on a on a on a big level that's huge and you know what

00:33:15.780 do i know if he's playing politics with the abortion thing or if that's really how he feels

00:33:20.780 now i have no idea but you see this is the thing like on the on a fundamental level this guy is

00:33:28.660 someone you can work with yes and that's the thing in politics you've got to work you got to find

00:33:33.500 people you can work with right you know what i mean you've got to work with people and the reality 0.96

00:33:38.160 is booty gig as much as you might try to work with him he loves having sex with other guys right and 0.99

00:33:44.820 they've kidnapped a child to to to grow into another homosexual he loves human trafficking 1.00

00:33:49.740 children and and gay sex right and going on paternal leave the difference there i i don't 0.98

00:33:57.320 i don't know what to tell you i mean you're just honestly you're just not dealing in reality

00:34:01.660 that's the thing and christians have to be experts at dealing in reality we do this all the time

00:34:07.640 And the thing is, a lot of people pointed this out.

00:34:10.560 Actually, one person in particular, man, I forget the name.

00:34:13.060 Maybe it was Philip Derrida.

00:34:15.340 He was talking about, you know, how, you know, when it comes to the abortion issue, all of these great people that we love, I love all the abolitionists, you know, when they go to the abortion clinics, they're begging women not to kill their children, right? 0.54

00:34:28.740 They're begging them not to.

00:34:29.980 They're praying with them.

00:34:30.640 They're talking with them and all that kind of stuff.

00:34:33.520 There are other things that they could be doing, but they don't.

00:34:37.640 Because they're doing a cost-benefit analysis, and they understand that we've got to think about the future.

00:34:43.400 You know what I mean?

00:34:44.120 Yeah, I saw that post.

00:34:45.380 My kid's future.

00:34:46.540 It was a good post.

00:34:47.400 It was hard.

00:34:48.100 I have no doubt that that probably upset a lot of abolitionists.

00:34:51.220 I'm sure it did.

00:34:52.100 I saw it, and I didn't retweet it because I'm trying to be a little bit more charitable.

00:34:58.340 I love the abolitionists.

00:34:59.820 I'm not trying to throw any shade.

00:35:01.280 I think they're making the right choice.

00:35:02.900 I'm just telling you.

00:35:03.780 When it comes to what they do at the abortion clinics, they're making the right choice.

00:35:06.840 That's what I would support.

00:35:08.000 That's what I would do.

00:35:09.280 But you've got to be honest with yourself.

00:35:11.780 When you make those choices, you are dealing in reality there because you know that what could be done, that would be probably strategically really awful.

00:35:22.960 Even if you would be justified.

00:35:24.800 Even if you would be justified, even if God would have your back and you'd be with him in heaven and he'd be saying, well done, good and faithful servant, all of that.

00:35:32.560 You don't do it because you're dealing in reality.

00:35:35.720 And the thing is, you've got to bring that into politics, too.

00:35:38.460 Right.

00:35:38.640 So whether, and I know what you're talking about, you're like doing more stuff and we'll

00:35:41.480 be careful here, you know, for the, for, I'm not, yeah, I'm not going any further than

00:35:45.320 that.

00:35:45.560 Right.

00:35:45.720 Yeah.

00:35:46.100 But, but yes, you, you could go further and, and you know what you, um, you know, I, I

00:35:50.940 posted about how, you know, I love my born children more than I love my enemy's unborn

00:35:54.400 children.

00:35:54.920 That doesn't mean I don't love my enemy's unborn children at all.

00:35:58.100 Of course.

00:35:58.340 It's, it's simply natural affections.

00:35:59.760 I love mine more and I love mine more because, um, I'm commanded to, if I didn't, um, then,

00:36:04.820 then i you know i'm disqualified as as a pastor and arguably even as a christian worse than an

00:36:09.380 unbeliever denying the faith um and my point of this is if if somebody if some woman abducted

00:36:15.040 one of my born children and had them in the back of the car and is you know stepping on you know

00:36:20.920 pedal to the metal and and heading off to um to a clinic where there's going to be a hit man that

00:36:27.540 she's going to pay to you know to euthanize my child um i'm not going to hold a sign and preach

00:36:35.380 the gospel no you're not i'm going to go a lot further yeah i'm going to go a lot further um

00:36:41.120 and every abolitionist we know likewise would go a lot further why because they're good men

00:36:46.140 they're good men absolutely we're not putting them down they're good men of course they would

00:36:50.040 go further because they should um and so yeah there's there's more that could be done you know

00:36:55.360 Doug Wilson said this back in the day. I don't know if you remember it, but talking about

00:36:59.140 Lincoln, and it's good to see, talking about white pills and ways we can unify, it's good to see that 0.88

00:37:03.740 the left has finally figured out that Abraham Lincoln was gay. I have no pushback whatsoever. 0.66

00:37:09.280 I'm like, hey, I've been on that train for a while. I've thought he was a gay president for 0.97

00:37:13.460 years now, and so it's good to see the left catching up to speed. But my point is that 0.97

00:37:18.420 And Doug, back in the day, he said, do you think that a civil war in America at the cost of 650,000 lives of our sons bleeding out on this soil, do you think that that was worth it to abolish slavery?

00:37:36.060 And, you know, everybody, you know, it's just this, you know, everybody says what they're supposed to say.

00:37:41.940 You know, so people are like, oh, of course it was.

00:37:43.400 Slavery is atrocious and we should have done whatever it takes.

00:37:45.700 And not just 650,000 lives, it should have been, you know, like, it would have been worth it if it was six and a half million lives, you know, and on and on it goes.

00:37:55.020 And then, you know, when Doug is asking this question to evangelicals, to Christians who are, you know, purportedly, you know, pro-life, he says,

00:38:03.680 then why aren't we taking up arms and going to the level of all-out war to save the lives of unborn?

00:38:14.040 You're talking about there were this many slaves, X many slaves in the United States, whatever it was, 2 million or something like that.

00:38:20.080 But there's been arguably 60 to 70 million, and that doesn't even track all the numbers of early on abortions with pills and things like that.

00:38:27.680 But 60 to 70 million dead babies in the last 50 years because of abortion.

00:38:35.600 Why are you not going to war, taking up arms, storming the White House?

00:38:41.980 Why are you not doing all these things that we hinted out earlier?

00:38:46.820 You know, there's more that could be done.

00:38:48.780 We'll just leave it there.

00:38:49.960 But we know there's a lot more that could be done.

00:38:51.960 Why are you not doing that more?

00:38:53.740 Why are we not fighting the war?

00:38:55.260 And there's only two answers. 0.92

00:38:57.040 One is that you either have to say, because I'm utterly cowardly and compromised.

00:39:03.320 That's why. 0.98

00:39:05.020 The North, under gay Abraham Lincoln, was better than me to go and fight the South. 0.87

00:39:11.980 you know, over the ending of slavery that was on its way out, by the way, anyways. And there's like 0.88

00:39:18.580 11 other European countries that abolished slavery without a war. And the amount of money that the

00:39:23.500 North, the Union, spent on the war, they could have actually bought to release. They could have

00:39:27.700 paid the South for every single one of their slaves and released them. But no, no, no, no, no, 0.61

00:39:31.660 let's not invite logic into it. No, I think Abraham Lincoln was absolutely, and the abolitionists,

00:39:38.360 I might add, were absolutely justified for sparking this war that abolished slavery because

00:39:44.240 we couldn't wait for two more years. But no, it had to be right then, right then. And what did

00:39:50.380 Abraham Lincoln do as he's flying the flag of emancipation? That ultimately is a thin veneer

00:39:55.360 for his real accomplishment, which was to seize and centralize power from the states that

00:40:00.920 ultimately destroyed the nation from that point on. And we've been living under the consequences

00:40:05.140 ever since but no it was just it was right um okay well then you have to admit that you were

00:40:09.820 compromised today if that was a just war then it would be 10 million times more just to fight a

00:40:16.540 war over abortion so you're compromised and cowardly or here's the other that's one answer 0.58

00:40:21.320 the other so one answer is i'm i'm a coward the second answer is uh that was an unjust war a 0.98

00:40:27.320 terrible war abraham lincoln was gay and uh you know either whether it's spelled g-a-y or g-h-e-y 0.94

00:40:33.740 he nonetheless any way you slice it he was gay uh terrible war um slavery was going to end and 0.96

00:40:40.820 there were better ways to end it and it wouldn't have been immediate but it would have ended and 0.91

00:40:45.120 it would have been better cost benefit analysis they should have done that and that's why i'm

00:40:49.780 doing what i'm doing today that's why i'm not you know going to abortion clinics and doing more than

00:40:55.580 simply preaching the gospel and holding a sign and offering to you know to adopt babies um that

00:41:01.420 would be my answer the second one that that would be yours right well it's in the short version what

00:41:06.600 you're or in the second the second answer the short way to say it is i'm i'm dealing with

00:41:10.620 political realities here yep dealing with the real world the real world what the real as it

00:41:16.980 really exists i'm doing the cost benefit analysis look maybe it would be different if um there was

00:41:23.200 one more clinic in the entire country and uh there was just the one that was the one where all the 1.00

00:41:28.540 ladies from all over the states you know flew in to go to this clinic you know what strategically 1.00

00:41:34.300 i could see doing something else you know what i'm saying we won't say what but something you

00:41:41.180 could do something i could see it i could see it theoretically because that ad that's so well put

00:41:45.400 because now we're in super bowl territory now we're in the super bowl right yeah and now we've

00:41:50.900 got a different cost benefit analysis right and so listen like it's it's it's it's different than

00:41:59.460 politics but it actually isn't because politics is a war of a different kind yep and so i and i i

00:42:06.760 saw i saw brian so they uh say this today too i thought it was so helpful he said that we're in a

00:42:13.780 war we're not in a bar fight right and that's the same kind of thing as the super bowl right the

00:42:18.120 the bar fight is the super bowl right you know it's over at that point there's no fight tomorrow

00:42:22.340 you know what i mean you get every swing in that you can because it's it's going to be done in two

00:42:26.300 minutes get every swing and you can defend yourself to the death if you have to because

00:42:30.500 it's the bar fight and there's nothing going on tomorrow right but in a war it's different it's

00:42:35.540 totally different there's a fight tomorrow too we're going to be fighting until this is solved

00:42:39.780 somehow right and so um you've got to do different you don't go for broke necessarily on the first

00:42:45.480 day unless strategically you think that that could actually end it on the first day um there's

00:42:50.720 it's a totally different mindset and so in politics yeah are is there a sort of compromise

00:42:58.040 that that some of us are engaged in yeah that's the nature of politics that is you can't compromise

00:43:03.820 yourself so i which we gotta we gotta disconnect this from the leaders right like it is objectively

00:43:09.400 not good for any leader all of the presidents we've ever had to to be in in power and do basically

00:43:16.620 nothing about abortion that's not good for them they're going to stand before god they're going

00:43:20.580 to answer for that it's not good for them but i'm not the i'm not the president i'm not and so i'm

00:43:26.620 i'm playing politics differently than they are you know what i mean it's i'm i'm not you know

00:43:31.220 like yeah i answer to god for my vote of course i do um but it's we have different goals you know

00:43:38.680 I think sometimes than the actual leader themselves.

00:43:41.440 And so, yeah, that's such a good example.

00:43:43.820 I'm so glad you brought that up about abolition and the civil war and all that.

00:43:47.700 It's all very helpful.

00:43:49.620 And I think once you kind of accept politics in reality, in the real world, as they really

00:43:54.960 are, they're not pure.

00:43:57.360 It's not a purity game.

00:43:58.420 It's not that kind of thing.

00:43:59.580 It's not like theology proper, where you want perfection, you want purity, you want

00:44:05.680 to, you know, it's exact, you know, you've got a word from the Lord.

00:44:08.500 it's an exact word it means what it means politics is different there's so many different

00:44:13.780 outcomes and compromises that you could do um to move the ball forward but the the key is to move

00:44:19.520 the ball forward and to not be the guy like you know in the parable someone just made fun of me

00:44:24.520 for using this uh parable but uh it's just a it's just an analogy you can't be the talent guy with

00:44:30.920 the one talent that buries it right he expect it listen god's not expecting you to make 10 talents

00:44:36.380 out of one talent that's that's not how he judged you but he is expecting some return and so you

00:44:42.920 might look at this election like we've got one talent none neither of these guys are all that

00:44:48.580 great but you've got to get a return you know what i mean it doesn't make sense to be like well

00:44:54.460 you know i'm just not going to do anything i'm just going to i don't want to do anything wrong

00:44:58.720 i'm too scared that i might sin so i'm not going to do anything i don't think that i don't think

00:45:04.300 that logic works in almost anything that you do in life. Yep. All right. Well, let's go ahead and

00:45:10.860 land the plane. Any final thoughts, any final white pills you want to throw out for guys to

00:45:15.840 be encouraged by? I don't know, man. I think all of the activity that's happening in politics and

00:45:23.300 the assassination attempt and Biden being cooed, all this stuff, there's a lot happening. And I

00:45:32.380 think that you know you could you could look at it and be like oh wow my country is a mess

00:45:37.300 but i think it signals that there's lots of changes happening lots of things that are being

00:45:44.020 revealed that and i think that people you know that are um voting for trump a lot of people

00:45:50.180 looking at that vote as like i'm fed up with the entire system right it's a it's a vote against

00:45:55.660 the system at this point i think a lot of the time and so um i'm i'm very white-pilled by that

00:46:01.180 because I don't think that—we've talked about this—I don't think we're voting our way out of

00:46:06.320 this one. I think something is going to give, and there's so many signs of things about to give

00:46:11.780 that I'm excited to see what happens, and I'm very, very confident that God's going to

00:46:18.540 keep his people, and yeah, I'm excited, man. Amen. Well, thanks for coming on the show.

00:46:25.300 Appreciate it. Yeah, God bless.

00:46:31.180 We'll be right back.

The NXR Podcast - July 29, 2024

THE INTERVIEW - No More Black Pilling with AD Robles

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