THE INTERVIEW - The Watchers, The Nephilim, & Atlantis - ICYMI with @hauntedcosmos_
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In Plato s dialogues, Critias and Timaeus, he talks about a strange place called Atlantis. According to him, Atlantis was a powerful and advanced civilization located somewhere near the pillars of Hercules in what we now know as the Strait of Gibraltar. It was ruled by a series of kings descended from the god Poseidon and was renowned for its wealth, military prowess, and sophisticated society. However, Atlantis became corrupt and imperialistic, leading the Athenians to defeat them in a cataclysmic war around 9,000 years before Plato s time. As punishment, the gods submerged Atlantis beneath the ocean in a single day and night.
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In Plato's dialogues, Critias and Timaeus, he talks about a strange place called Atlantis.
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According to him, Atlantis was a powerful and advanced civilization located somewhere near the pillars of Hercules.
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It was ruled by a series of kings descended from the god Poseidon
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and was renowned for its wealth, military prowess, and sophisticated society.
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However, Atlantis became corrupt and imperialistic,
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leading the Athenians to defeat them in a cataclysmic war
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As punishment, the gods submerged Atlantis beneath the ocean
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Given its legendary status, many moderns assume that Atlantis never existed.
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But has Atlantis been hiding in plain sight all along?
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Atlantis might even give us the mother of all mermaids.
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Like, on record, here's two things that I know for sure, okay?
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I need to know which camera I'm looking at here
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Joel is wrong about the mother of the mermaids.
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Primary water is not even a theory at this point.
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which there is one in the middle of the city of Atlantis.
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because I think Plato's conception of a king with 10 suns
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Yeah, let's talk a little bit about why we're saying we know where Atlantis is.
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Because like you said in the cold open, we have this very,
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actually, it's just, it hangs by a thread, historically speaking,
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It's really one historical account preserved like Ben described.
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And for most people that listen, they go, that's the end of the story.
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They speculate about maybe a few offshore locations,
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But what happens is that if you go to a little place
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Right in plain sight, but you wouldn't expect it.
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And you start to lay out a certain set of facts
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anybody who looks into this, not only will you say, wow, that could be Atlantis, you will conclude
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that is Atlantis. Right. And then let me tell you, nail in the coffin for me, which I already
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was certain, but today it's just like, it was another nail. There actually is another historical
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account of Atlantis, which I did not know about until today. And that is Herodotus, the father
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of history. The father of history. Might want to hold onto that one. Yes. Had compiled a map of the
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known world in his day and down there right where we right where we believe it would expect atlantis
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to be he had labeled a little circle and he had written atlantis atlantis atlantis so let me lay
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out a few facts and real quick though yeah wasn't there also a connection with like a ruler there
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being atlas yeah let me let me lay out a few facts i'm going too fast my bad and then and then you
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guys jump in we'll we'll fill it in we'll get all of them by the end so there's this this place in
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the Sahara Desert, which, first of all, you're like, Sahara Desert? I thought we're talking
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about a sunken city. We thought we were talking about the underwater city.
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We're talking about a place in Atlantis. It's called the Eye of the Sahara. It's a known
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landmark in this region that doesn't get a lot of attention because it's so far from any habitable
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place in any kind of tourist sort of location. People don't travel to it. But if you look at
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from above it's about a 23 to 24 kilometer in diameter which lines up perfectly by the way by
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the way with what plato says series of in the center there's an island or what would be if you
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had water at a certain level and then there are rings of land around it which perfectly matches
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the description physical description each of these rings are like mounds that would be above the
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water you might even call them you know because it's rings are like serpent mounds yeah like
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And there'd be water in between each one of them.
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So it's in a land that we call today Mauritania.
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there are mountains called the Atlas Mountains.
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He was the son of Poseidon, who was a fallen watcher,
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Poseidon takes to wife a mortal woman named Cleto
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so this is supposedly a legendary account here,
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Who was, according to their own history, the first king of the Moray people?
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They say that their first king was this legendary demigod figure named Atlas.
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And the ruler of the capital city of the Atlantean Empire, which was Atlantis,
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was Atlas the Nephilim child of Poseidon and Cleto.
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So do we have any documentation that says Poseidon was the father of Atlas?
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Because Plato's getting his conception from him, right?
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And Herodotus came around about 200 years after Plato's great-great-great-great-great-grandfather.
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Who was the one who went to Alexandria and learned about this legend of...
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Yeah, learned about it, which at that point supposedly was 9,000.
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Right, but it's also because it's still fresh on my mind.
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But in Plato's lineage, not the father of history,
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in Plato's lineage, you've got back, back, back
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and that's where he discovered the legend of...
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He discovered the history of Atlantis at that time.
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He received it from the Egyptian priest as history.
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This was in around 600-ish BC, 2,600 years ago.
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So further, now this is a desert region, obviously,
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but surrounding the physical description Solon preserves
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has many, many very specific and particular physical characteristics.
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It's surrounded by a mountain range on a certain side
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The northern Atlas Mountains have rivers that come down.
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Out of the southern entrance now, then, the water flows out.
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Clearly, this is exactly what we see when we look over this landscape.
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Looks like it had been catastrophically deluged
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Yeah, which would have been about 11,000 something.
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But the fact is, it was a long time before Solon,
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It's very reasonable to say that Atlantis was an antediluvian, a pre-flood city.
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Ruled by a Nephilim king that was highly advanced.
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And real quick, Nephilim, what we're saying there is Atlas would be the Nephilim king.
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And to be Nephilim, that means he had a human mother who married and procreated with a fallen angel father.
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Some of these fallen angels, we believe that they were princes, spiritual princes, rulers,
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The principalities are not a thing, but rather a place.
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Think of principalities in the same way you would think of provinces in Canada or regions
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And some of these might not just be on land with nations and peoples, but oceans, water,
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So what if one of the fallen angels, watchers that rebelled against God,
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came down to earth and is a prince over a particular principality.
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His particular principality happens to be over water.
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And in a land region on the coast, at the time it was on the coast,
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The city itself was, water was a big part of it.
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And then he actually does have power over wind and waves,
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not to the degree that Jesus, who is he, the disciples say, who can command the winds and
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waves and they obey him. But we know that Satan in the book of Job had authority to cause a great
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wind to make the house of Job's children collapse from a wind, nature, a wind, and kill them. So
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it's not that Jesus alone, that God alone has power over wind and waves. He has the supreme
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power over wind and waves so the idea that one of these watchers fallen angels over a particular
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reason a region a port city dealing with water and that that fallen angel would be a water type
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power over waves and water poseidon and that he marries a human woman and has a half fallen angel
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half human child that becomes the king of the city atlas who then has 10 sons right no right no it
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It was Poseidon and Cleato had five sets of twins.
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And he was set over Atlantis, the capital city.
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Because it was the whole region that they ruled.
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And then the other 10 sons ruled different regions of the Atlantean.
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because Brian wants his view to be communicated as well.
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So with all that, the fallen watcher, Poseidon,
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perhaps the same individual known by the Philistines,
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And I'm not saying it has to be the same, but it's possible.
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The same that's known as Poseidon in some mythology.
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Greek mythology is this fallen angel, but then known to the Philistines as Dagon.
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The biblical account actually, the biblical narrative accounts for this.
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I think that it's within the realm of possibility,
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The same Holy Spirit who inspires the writing of the text
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preserved it, preserved it, that this was supernatural,
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that there were wicked men who would love to corrupt it,
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inspired canonical text, you still have Peter and Jude.
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You have biblical authors in their biblical text
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About this situation, about the Watchers and the Nephilim.
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Now they don't reference it about the mermaid situation.
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So this could be a portion of Enoch that is untrue,
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it should be viewed by us as a portion of Enoch
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I think Enoch preserved popular oral tradition about many legendary aspects of the world that
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have been garbled through the generations in similar ways to many of the ancient mythologies.
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But Enoch did it because it was closer to some of the primary sources with greater purity than
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others, which is why I think the New Testament authors cite certain portions of it. But to be
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clear none of us, we kid, but none of us are saying Enoch should be taken. A lot of it we
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would look at and go, Enoch, what was he? He was on some ayahuasca. So all that being said,
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one thing that Enoch says about, because you always think, okay, so the fallen angels,
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what happened to them? Okay, well, they tried to start a hybrid race and that's where the
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Nephilim come from and the giants. And then those who engaged in this unholy union were locked in
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gloomy dungeons. We know what happened to the fallen angels. What happened to their offspring,
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right? Their posterity. Well, first generation, that's the Nephilim. Think of like Hercules.
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I think Hercules was real. He's like a demigod, half god, lowercase g, fallen angel, and part man,
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and this kind of idea. And great men of renown with great strength and great size and Gilgamesh.
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Totally, totally. And then their grandsons from the Nephilim on down, subsequent generations would
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be giants. So the angelic blood is now being diluted, but there's still a great size, the
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Rephaim, and having different sizes, different clans, maybe even different skill sets and
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but what happened to them according to enoch right in this view that joel's claims i believe
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and actually don't don't believe at all in any sense of the word is that in engaging in this
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uh sexual relationship with the watchers against nature they somehow gave up their soul to either
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be consumed or to be taken so that they were cursed to wander as long-lived but soulless
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sirens. Sirens. And that's what Enoch says. He says the women, the wives of the fallen angels
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who are the mothers of the Nephilim, grandmothers of the giants, and so on, they became, as they're
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cursed, sirens. And the sirens were soulless, which is why they would want to draw men to
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themselves, men who have souls. They're soulless. They have long lives, longer lifespan
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but everything that we said before the siren part,
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But clearly, yeah, the shoreline was much closer to it.
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that are at least 1,000 feet high that are much closer.
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And so a lot of people believe that the continental shelf,
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And so then when the flood happened and the waters receded,
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they actually pulled the shoreline further back west.
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And so now it's much further away from the sea.
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there's the Solon recorded the presence of elephants that Atlantis was famous for elephants
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Mauritania still has elephants there's evidence that there are elephants at that time as well
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in terms of skeletons yeah there's drawings drawings and things like that the rock colors
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there's three specific rock colors that Solon records all those colored rocks are white black
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and red white black and red present in the area again the exact diameter the exact number of rings
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But from Adam to the flood, Noah and the flood is about 1,500 years.
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It's even from a biblical timeline, it's about half.
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They're saying something happened 11,000 years ago.
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We're saying it's rushing water, lots of it over a short time.
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The waters, when they receded, when the waters pulled back, that now, okay, that the ocean actually ended up some miles away, but not that fantastic.
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And it's bone dry because of changes and blah, blah, blah.
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And then one last thing, just for the norming, and I would include myself in this, but I remember, you know, when I was doing my first research on Atlantis as, you know, a 10-year-old boy,
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The legend is it was a powerful city near the water,
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It's above water, but in a port kind of location.
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And it's judged, and particularly judged for being,
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which is that the bloodshed of men knew no bounds.
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Yeah, the evil of men had increased to such a degree that God regretted.
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But, it's not all dry at the current day ricotte structure.
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No, it's not. In fact, there's one more detail here.
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There's one more detail because Plato said there were two springs at the center of Atlantis.
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There was a bitter spring and there was a sweet spring.
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Now, there's a lot of bitter springs in the area because there's a lot of salt water beneath the sand.
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What are you even doing? You're wasting your life.
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with you. Primary water is the key. It is the post-millennial great key hope. We're going to
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garden the deserts and maybe Mars. That's right. Well, I was going to say, so, I mean, right now,
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the plan to fix the population issue, quote unquote. The alleged overpopulation. Yes, in
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Egypt, in Egypt, because the Nile's drying up. Right. And they have to help everybody who's
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going to thirst to death, is to create an inlet from the Mediterranean Sea that goes into its
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like the fifth largest lake in the world by surface area.
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And say, hey, Poseidon, you fallen watcher,
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We only have so much and it can never be remade.
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And then second, not only do we have finite amount of water,
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And what I mean by that is the hydrological cycle,
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and forming clouds and raining and coming back down,
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you'd be saying you're drinking 6,000-year-old water.
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And yeah, you can have your reverse osmosis filter,
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And yes, you can maybe get out some of the chemicals
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that over 6,000 years, if it's only recycled water,
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Yeah, it's picking stuff up, and yes, you do your best to purify it, but the point is the hydrological cycle tells us two things, that there's not enough water, it's finite, but it's also old water.
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Primary water theory suggests that, number one, water is not finite, but it's actually being made deep underneath the ground through pressures and seismic shifts and all these different things that hydrogen, oxygen, that water's actually being made.
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because we're actually gaining more water every day.
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Number two, we don't just have more water than we think,
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you have new water that was made just last year.
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And if there would be a way as technology increased
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to drill down, we're not just saying a few hundred feet,
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and be able to actually mine primary water straight up,
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under surface oceans, we're not talking about puddles,
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oceans just far down, you could eradicate deserts.
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every place in the world could be rainforest, basically.
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This is just one other application, but it could be the secret without medicine that has been
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corrupt, not all medicine, but lots of medicine, it's just a trade. It's like, hey, we'll fix
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your cancer problem, but we'll give you this other disease. Instead of that, instead of medicine that
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maybe heals your sickness there, but creates another problem there, it'll fix your heart,
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meaning that 100 would be, that dude was young.
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that God baked into the pie, the world that he made,
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is because the water is getting older and older and older.
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But if we could get new water below the surface.
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It's the fountain of youth, not in a specific locale,
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We did a whole episode for about an hour and a half
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on primary water, and I get the sense right now
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That's all I'll say. Go check out the other episode.
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It is compelling, though, that you had this
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that's just, at this point, it's just confirmed.
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And it was a pre-flood society ruled by a Nephilim.
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And they had, maybe, a primary water spring at the center.
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Well, I say, I don't know in the sense of like, so of course I know.
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And also a kingdom that's going to be reclaimed by Christendom.
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I feel like I should sit in between you just to...
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A lot of people think that we're brothers, too.
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and you're going to find especially antediluvian, in my view.
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But this isn't a tale that would just happen there
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This happened in cities and empires all around the world.
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In fact, it's one of the reasons that I so appreciate
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but it includes many of these cast of characters.
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But he brings in many of these ancient figures,
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He brings these in and tells the story of, you know,
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the ancient Atlanteans and beyond that many places in history,
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just like we talked about in our, you know, patron exclusive,
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Our Patreon, and you'll be able to see a whole thing on DMT.
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And what we're seeing there is that human beings in this time period,
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but they were communing with ancient evil powers,
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and they were doing real things on earth with that power
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like the empire of Babylon and Assyria and Egypt.
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Yes, morally depraved in terms of human nature having fallen,
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morally depraved, on the moral level, depraved.
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Because sometimes you say it in a way that it's patronizing
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And this is what I think, like somebody like Graham, what's his last name?
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Now, he cannot help but be just enough wrong to ensure that he can keep rejecting the Bible.
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But in every, so he'll be so consistent, and then he forces himself to be inconsistent to deny Christ.
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But other than that, in every other instance, he's right.
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And one of the things that, I mean, he's been scorned and mocked about is that he believes that previous civilization, he's not just saying, oh, there were people a long time ago.
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What makes him unique is he's saying, too many things as I understand it, that there were people a long time ago and that some of these people, ancient, even further back.
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So there were people hundreds of years back who actually were primitive, but then there were people thousands of years back.
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what he says is more primitive in the more recent past,
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And then what he says is very sophisticated at 20,000 years,
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we would put that more at like 5,000 years before the flood.
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And we'd say because of fallen angels giving knowledge
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and giving that they were highly sophisticated,
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Incredibly sophisticated, but lasting before the flood,
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we have 8 billion people, give or take right now
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When you think, and I'm not saying it has to be that,
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how many, you know, he had Cain, he had Abel, he had Seth.
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And then all of them, how many kids do they have?
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and so it's absolutely possible that you have billions maybe not that exact you know 11 but
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you could have hundreds of millions maybe a couple billion on the planet at that time but then also
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angels you have adam who who wasn't always fallen right he actually experienced righteousness right
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and holiness in a state of innocence 48 hours god for well according to dante what is it like
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seven minutes or something. Some guys say he fell on the eighth day. Yeah, but Milton gave them
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quite a while. But anyway, the point is, he was probably quite intelligent. He probably understood
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nature very, very well. And so even if you take away the fallen angel aspect of it, I think that
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even the line of Seth was probably highly advanced. I think that Noah and his capability of building
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that ark. Of course, he was helped along by God, but also he built the ark, which is an astonishing
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feat given that time. So I think the conclusion that pre-flood, right before the flood, human
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society was very large and was very advanced is unavoidable. And then after that, we no longer see
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quite that skyrocket of advancement because we don't have any covenant head that was innocent
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at one time. Right. And we have all of that technology lost. They're having to restart
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all over again. And then you also have the demons now that are being much more prohibitive. Like
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they're wanting to kill. They're wanting to kill and take away the image of God. They're not as
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much wanting to share gifts that will cause flourishing, at least not for as long a time,
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I think. That's very speculative. But to me, it seems like an almost unavoidable conclusion,
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being very advanced right before the Flood comes.
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But you do still have some societies post-Flood,
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So it's not that it all happens before the Flood.
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Technologically advanced civilization on some level.
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Egyptians watching like light shows on the pyramids.
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These are the kinds of things that we can guess,
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But also, I don't think it was just big people.
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but I think some of these giants were 30, 40, 50,
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and this is somewhat recent, like in the last couple decades,
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they found a tunnel that went down underneath it,
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and they got in there, and they found this massive room.
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that was just lined all the way with granite bowls,
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The name escapes me of what, like, a big bowl is.
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They're like, now you'd turn it on like a potter's wheel
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that they have these type of bowls made of granite.
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But then also they measured how flat the tops were,
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there's about a three-inch wide rim on the top.
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And it was perfectly flat in reference to itself
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We can't guarantee a tolerance within 0.02 microns.
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Maybe if you have the highest quality CNC machine in the world,
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but you still, it's really hard to do with granite
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to machine stone in a way that not only rivals,
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they were underneath that sounds like a fallen angel father that's what i'm saying told you how
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to do something like some kind of great skill set that was passed along with uh with a technology
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that we can't that we can't imagine right the fallen angel father but also you you are right
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because i don't want to discount your like think 900 years to perfect your craft right you're adam
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right and you knew the world before it was fallen right i mean that like adam people think of adam
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I mean, he would have, everybody comes from him.
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So he's got great, great, great, great grandchildren.
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But it's not just like, hey, great, great grandpa.
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It's amazing to think of that antediluvian world
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they're fairies, and you'll have to watch the fairy episode.
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I think mermaids would be in the category of Bigfoot.
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I'm calling them elementangles or elementangles.
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you're just gonna you're just gonna no no like elemental calling them elemental angels like in
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a class of angelic being that is focused on the operations of nature right boom would have been
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a class right so they're kind of preternatural they have one foot in one foot out of the scene
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realm which episode did we hit that on too i think our angels episode but then also our fairies we
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hit it real hard yeah yeah i was gonna and then we dabbled in the bigfoot we cruised i think it's
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worth noting that in the first thing is first peter peter like the antediluvian world is so
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different peter calls it the world that then was yeah it was a it because the flood was not just
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a catastrophe the flood was a decreation event followed by a recreation event right it is such
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a catastrophic event it was that it was a different world that existed at that time right
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wow right baptism of the world all right well this is what you need to do one uh you can become a
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We're actually, I'm going to say it right now. We're doing a whole episode in season three on
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different Atlantis type myths from around the world to see just how common of a trope this
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really is and potentially how widespread this same situation was. So it's kind of cheating for
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other topics to try and be as interesting. We don't even have to be that interesting,
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me and Ben, because we're talking about Atlantis.
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then the solution to that problem is it's, you know,
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