THE LIVESTREAM - A Summary Of The Trump & Kamala Debate
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Pastor Joel Webin is joined by Wesley Todd, Michael Belch, and Wesley's brother, Wesley Todd to discuss the recent Democratic Debates. They discuss the bias of the moderators, and the rigged nature of the process.
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All right, welcome back to another Wednesday live stream with Right Response Ministries.
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I am joined by Wesley Todd and Michael Belch, and I am your host, Pastor Joel Webin.
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We are going to be discussing the recent presidential debate that took place last night.
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I had the great misfortune of watching the debate.
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we've kind of prepared a little bit and talking offline for our commentary that we're going to
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provide today i'm going to go ahead and just jump in but before i do real quick uh do us a favor if
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30 000 foot view real quick that i'm going to launch it's something that we haven't talked
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about so i'm going to get your hot take michael and wes um so this is one of my thoughts um the
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moderators i don't just think that it's different you know like well these guys are different and
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they work for a different company you know with abc or whatever um i'm thinking about the the two
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debates that we had back in june with uh trump and biden and now you know with trump and kamala
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and i was thinking um i was shocked uh not last night right last night was like oh there they are
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there's the legacy media right so trump is debating three people you know he's debating um you know
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The one person he's supposed to debate, Kamala Harris, and he's also debating, of course, the two moderators who are 100% on her side.
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I mean, it was laughable, but not, as I said, not surprising.
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What was surprising was back in June when there was fair and unbiased, like truly unbiased moderating between Biden and Trump.
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we haven't seen that in years yeah certainly not with with trump as long as he's been on the
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political stage and so i was thinking about that a little bit today and this was my main thought
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and i want to hear you guys your takeaway uh my thought was that um it's not that oh you know
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well they finally did the right thing by being unbiased in june and now we're back to um i i
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really feel like it's rigged um and and what i mean is um i think that the reason the moderator
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was unbiased and uh impartial back in june with biden is because that was the plan correct the
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plan that is correct was to um to not prop up biden so that he would uh they knew all along
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they were not deceived it's not that you know that that um that you know uh the the the politicians
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pulled the wool over their eyes and the legacy media had no idea biden has had uh been on full
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on decline you saw it even back in the 2020 primaries but but he has been on major cognitive
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decline with with almost full onset dementia for 18 months that's that's the report now that we're
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now you know people are being truthful about it and that's what everybody has met everybody has
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come out and said yeah we knew we knew we knew we knew and so my point is i think um that the
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legacy media knew of course they knew and so um so what we were witnessing is like wow like the
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legacy media is actually doing their job and being unbiased and just moderating the debate and not
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helping Biden. No, I think once again, the legacy media was being the legacy media, aka, as Warren
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McIntyre would say, the total state. We have authoritarianism, and even worse than that,
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tyranny. It's just not one tyrant. It's the total state. It's your doctor. It's the realm of
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medicine. It's the media. It's academia. It's Harvard and Princeton and Hollywood. And it's
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the whole thing is one big tyrant. And so I think that the media was absolutely in on it all the
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way back in June. And the reason why they were unbiased was because of their bias. And what was
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their bias? It wasn't a bias towards Biden. It was a bias towards the deep state Democrat party,
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knowing that Biden will not be able to beat Trump. He was lower in the polls. Trump was beating in
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the polls for months handedly joe biden yeah um and so they knew we've got to replace biden we've
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got to have somebody else come in so so how do we replace biden well we just um uh we we we come in
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and sabotage him no you don't have to do that with democrats all you have to do with democrats is not
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sabotage them but simply not prop them up because democrats sabotage themselves that's right right
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They either have dementia, like an actual cognitive ailment, or they don't have dementia, like Kamala, and then it's even sadder because it's like, what's her excuse?
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It's either stupid for actual physical reasons, mental reasons, or stupid just because sin makes you stupid.
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The Proverbs is filled with the correlation between that which is immoral and that which is unintelligent, right?
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It is the wicked man who is also the fool.
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But either way, you get a fool, whether you get a fool by dementia or whether you get a fool by just sheer sinister wickedness in either case.
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And so what the media does is I don't think that the legacy media for a second developed some sense of ethics and thought we'll be moral and unbiased.
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i think no they were just they were just being who they always are and they knew that biden in
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the polls was getting trounced by trump for at least two arguably three months um by in some
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cases at some moments by more than double digits and so um they didn't sabotage biden uh they
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simply chose to pull back and let him you know it's kind of like what david did to uriah right
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like go ahead and you know when once he's out on the front line so let's get him on the front lines
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and let's move the debate earlier so we have time i think this was all the plan and now with kamala
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because uh the plan really is kamala and we finally know that now uh because she really is
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a plan then they came back and did exactly what they've always done they you know it was a one
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on three you know debate between you know the moderators helping kamala that's my you know one
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of my we'll get into more but that's one of my big picture 30,000 for you takeaways what do you
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okay i'm hesitant to believe conspiracy theories like a true like gathered up in the top room
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carefully laying things out i prefer to believe in incompetence but i think that aligns with
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you could align that it doesn't have to necessarily be planned but think about you watching a train
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wreck you don't run in there like oh maybe i'll hold back the train or something but imagine your
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toddler somehow put the car into drive and it's like slowly going into the driveway you're knocking
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on the window put it back a neutral whatever it is there's a difference between something you could
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maybe affect a difference in and some a tragedy just unfolding. And that's what was happening in
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June, in May, even further than that to the Biden campaign. It was just a tragedy unfolding. Nobody
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had a plan. And so going into it, there was no like, well, maybe we can prep ahead of time with
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questions and really like throw these fact checks out there. It was just kind of like, well, he's
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coming out. Oh, my goodness. This is going terrible. There's not much we can do. But the
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narrative right now is trying to make it believable, make it believable that the majority of
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Americans. They want Kamala Harris. They're in her corner. And then on election night,
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it's taken a while to count up. Oh, man, these select city centers like we saw in 2020,
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man, they're taking a while to get all the ballots in. As long as it's believable and people can't,
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well, no, hang on. We saw the support, the difference from this year to last year,
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from this election to the next. As long as it's believable. And so last night, exactly like you
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said, hey, we got to throw our boxing gloves in the ring. We got to try to make this believable
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for her in june there wasn't really any hope it was well he's gonna go out there we'll see what
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happens to him but uh exactly to your point now there's a fighting chance that's my take on it
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i don't know conspiratorial i would disagree with you on one thing joel you said the moderators were
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on kamala's kamala's side yes i think it's opposite kamala was on the side of the deep state
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and i think when joe biden would not drop out all of a sudden he was no longer on the side of the
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total state and so wes i'm not saying it's a conspiracy but i do believe with aron mcintyre
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about the idea of the total state and there is a momentum there are levers that they can pull
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there are pressures and narratives that they can drive and it was clear i think that biden was
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supposed to do the honorable thing as the wise old statesman and drop out and when he would not do
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that when they discovered oh he's actually a bitter angry old man with dementia and he's not
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going to drop out. He's not going to comply. He was no longer on the side of the total state.
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And so Kamala is on the side of the total state. So yeah, here, we're back to supporting you.
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We're back to pretending like the moderator's on your side, like it's all about you. It's not
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about her. It's not even about Biden. It is about, and to some degree, I don't know what is the deep
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state? What is the total state? How much of it is spiritual? How much is cultural? How much is just
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a lack of education among the public so we're easily manipulated and controlled uh but but
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there's something behind the left that's pushing it forward not perfectly they're not these
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masterminds that sometimes we think they are they have a lot of power and they are willing to do
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things that i guess honest citizens aren't always willing to do right i like michael's theory even
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more than mine yeah that was good no that's good yeah and i you know i just i guess you can call
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this conspiracy head um i would call it a coup yeah um i mean think about this for a second
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but it's not i don't think it's a coup because a coup is a minority taking over well that's that's
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yeah you're right it's the majority yeah taking over you're you're right uh because once they
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decided we're done with you biden and he resisted then all of a sudden he's outside of the majority
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he becomes the minority so i i agree with you in that sense uh but what i mean by a coup what the
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way i'm saying is is beyond just the debate back in june i'm saying like um think about this a
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sitting president of the united states resigned on social media right with a letter with a letter
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that the staffers hadn't even dropped out that the staffers hadn't even seen all of a sudden
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they're packing up yeah bewildered you know and so like as far as we know biden didn't even write
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it yeah we didn't hear from biden until i think it was six days later no one saw him yep right he's
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he's sick i you know remember the the tweet that came out i'm sick yep a ridiculous which is a
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ridiculous tweet like even not even saying he wasn't sick i mean he's been sick the last you
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know four years and you know but i'm so i'm not saying it's ridiculous because it's unbelievable
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i mean the guy is like 170 years old he's sick all the time but but what i'm saying is like to
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just two words like that i think you know one of the members in our church i i thought he was you
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know pretty insightful with his take he said it seemed like that was kind of the test is we're
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going to have a staffer put out not bite him but somebody else put out a ridiculous tweet
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and see how it's received and then after the test all right now we're going to go for the real deal
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here's his letter of resignation right and he can't say a word about it we won't let him get
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behind a camera we won't let him see the public here's a letter with his signature that easily
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as far as we know could have been forged and it just appears on social media his whole staff is
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clueless they're all finding out for the first time right alongside you and i as citizens and
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then six days later once once he's you know uh kicked and screamed probably for the last six
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days in isolation quietly um and and they finally have gotten him to comply and shown him we will
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ruin your life hunter biden will be in jail um until he's dead i guarantee that conversation
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happened like they went to a mom and a dad you know joe joe and his wife and said um uh you know
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your son's guilty we know he's guilty he's pled guilty we have found 17 other bags of cocaine
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you know in the white house since then that you know that we've hid away but we have them and
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they all have hunter biden's fingerprints on them you you know that your your son is a deadbeat he's
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a druggie he's a cokehead he's you know whatever and uh so you will be financially ruined you will
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be legally ruined uh your your son will be in jail and uh it took six days this is my my take
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uh six days to get him to realize that he had no recourse that he had no hope and then um now
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you're allowed to be behind a camera now that you're prepared uh to to go with it so anyway
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so that's you know and and i think the debate was part of that so so um in that sense i mean a coup
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But you are absolutely right in your assessment that it wasn't a small minority taking over the majority, but rather it was the majority in lockstep, as they always have in the deep state, the total state.
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And then one guy, you know, in one family, the Biden family breaks from the deep state and their agenda and their plan because of his cognitive decline.
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Don't let him see the light of day for six days until they've made every threat possibly imaginable and broken his will to where he has no choice but to comply.
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And I think the debate in June was part of that.
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So all that being said, back to last night's debate, which is our topic at hand, last night's debate to me was, oh, that's my America.
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you know the legacy media the deep state and lockstep you know democrats and democrats you
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know working together and uh donald trump you know uh the worst person to ever be born of women
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you know all you know by himself right um and and that said i i i don't think he did terrible some
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guys are giving i i think he did a pretty good job uh but i do think that he was overly defensive
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and i'm sympathetic because i mean he's literally debating three people instead of one um and you
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know they're literally the moderators are literally in real time fact checking checking uh trump and
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at times uh their fact checks are false incorrect and then and then with harris there's no fact
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checks and she is uh just trotting out all the usual tropes and all that have already been
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debunked even by democrat left-wing snopes um yeah by snopes like the uh the very fine people
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thing you know and then trump is like oh he's being defensive yeah but but he's also being
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lied to in front of the american people out and about and you know so i you know in that sense
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i'm sympathetic the the one uh the one in my opinion blunder of trump a lot of them i am
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sympathetic it's like you well you've got to defend yourself if they're saying like you know
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so uh president trump is the moderators it was basically like this like one of them you know
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looks at trump says president trump when did you stop beating your wife and he's like well i never
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did beat my wife and they're like that's enough time and then uh the other moderator goes to
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comma comma when do you think he stopped beating his wife you know and so like so with that kind
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of setup of course you have to defend and so trump was constantly on the ropes the whole night
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where he needed to be offensive he needed to be and saying look you've ruined the country his his
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closing statement should have been his opening statement he should have started with that from
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the beginning uh the one so but but i all that to say i am sympathetic i understand when the whole
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whole world's against you you have to make some defenses um but the one defense that i think was
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absolutely unnecessary um was when kamala and you know i despise her but you you got to give honor
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where honor is due um she she was strategic in going after his rallies the rallies are boring
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people leave them early because it's so boring after his ego not after the rally exactly so
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that's different than you called nazis um uh very fine people and and you didn't and you know you
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didn't you well you got to say that you got to defend yep uh but with the rat your rallies are
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boring yep he it literally he and he got to this after like three minutes but it should have just
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been um yeah people leave my rallies and the only reason they don't leave yours is because they
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never show up in the first place all right next question that should have been it people leave
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my rallies because at my rallies i'm getting shot at right yeah people leave my rallies because in
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the stands right exactly because there are assassinations uh attempts and uh nobody leaves
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your rally because you can't leave something that you never arrived at in the first place next
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question you know so that one and that really did seem to unsettle him yep from that point on
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and i think that that was a mistake at the same time i don't want to overly beat him up it's
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really hard in the public square too for a man to debate a woman because most male female
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relationships, so a husband to his wife or a pastor to the woman parishioners or a magistrate
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even, the relationships of head and I wouldn't say like inferior in status or ontology, but just
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a lower role, a subordinate role. So typically there's a pattern there. And then if the husband
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at the final end, if a husband and wife are back and forth, the husband biblically has the final
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say and says, I've heard your points. However, this is what you're doing. But when you put a man
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and a woman on stage, and then they're considered peers, and they're supposed to be debating,
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it's very hard to have a win condition. Because if you win too much, or you go too hard,
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you're really seen as calloused and cruel. Because we all have eyes, and we know that women are,
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as Peter says, the weaker vessel. You should not be crushing a woman's spirit, even in debate,
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the way you would crush a male opponent. Or Paul talks about rebuking sharply those who are unsound
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in the faith so already by standing up on stage not against another man who can take the jabs and
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the blows and the back and forth but standing up against a woman where he has to walk that tight
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rope of not coming across too domineering and strong because the optics of it will be man look
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at this cruel misogynistic this that or the other man look how hard he was look at the things he
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said of her you can't can't go in that way then you have to go hard enough to actually have a
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message to have a position that was already a tough tightrope to walk and that is the direct
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result of feminism men and women should not be competing like that especially on a stage with so
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many so many implications the the the leader of the free world right and we're gonna we're gonna
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entertain the idea that a woman part of that is commander-in-chief you are commanding generals
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and armies and navies commanding you are commanding you are exercising authority and instruction and
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commanding soldiers for warfare um that is simply not the role we're gonna entertain the idea she
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could show up to putin and make demands that's right that's funny right and putin god bless him
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he would laugh he would he would recognize that it's funny because he's a man and he would laugh
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because he's yeah russia still has men yes um so but all that being said um and let's you know
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it's worth mentioning just in passing real quick that i i believe it's isaiah that says that you
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know that one of god's judgments and curses on a nation for unfaithfulness is that they will be
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ruled by children and women yep um so it is you know that's just one more sign of it's it's not
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that like if we get kamala then we're going to be you know have sinful policies and then we'll be
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judged by god no kamala that's true but um but it's not just that kamala will invoke judgment
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by wicked policies kamala is the judgment because of all the wickedness that we've already accrued
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we have been a wicked rebellious apostate nation for decades and decades and decades
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kamala is not the sin that will result in judgment kamala is the judgment yes that is the result
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for all of our past sins the judgment is being ruled by uh by women and well why is that a
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one because the bible said so that's why and two um because uh women are not fit for that role right
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um that that's just simply not uh that's not the role to be uh you know she kept saying the irony
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was so thick you know saying like i've talked to world leaders and everyone you know uh is mocking
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you they like they they think that you're a joke um i i can guarantee you that most of the world
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leaders on the world stage um outside of maybe you know other gay nations so exactly so there's
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gay nations like america and france but outside of the gay nations you know nations that you know
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are still believe you know things like natural law and god's created order um they don't think
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that trump is an embarrassment in fact they're afraid of that's right he carries a big stick
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and that's why we had peace for four years i mean for four years there were no wars he's right about
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that um the but what they would mock and say is an embarrassment is um arguably a superpower not
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quite as super as we once were but you know a superpower maybe not the but a superpower on the
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world stage having a uh female commander-in-chief that is something that most world leaders will
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actually mock and make fun of yeah um maybe not to her face because i mean they're if anything
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they're going to encourage it like please yep yeah i think russia came out you know i don't
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know it was a joke he was yeah i think it was an epic troll but putin is a troll right but i think
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there's some truth in it you know putin you know i think he's trolling and laughing but that only
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actually makes my point even more but he's saying oh yeah like uh russia's uh we endorse
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of course we do like we endorse the weakest candidate that we could possibly have for our
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competitor yep of course of course we endorse kamala like we would love for kamala to be the
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leader of the free world as our competitor nation uh we would love for them to have a weak leader
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So let's go to our first commercial break, but then I want to come back and let's discuss.
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We're going to get into some more big picture views, you know, with some of the tweets we're going to share.
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Michael Foster put out something that was really helpful.
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But I do want to get into a couple of specific lies because and we don't.
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And just for the record, I'm not saying that that Trump had no twisting of the truth whatsoever, although I think he was far more honest.
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But there were a couple of moments was like, but the reason we don't have to do that with Trump is because if.
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The times that he was borderline deceptive and even the times when he was 100% truthful, all those were already fact-checked.
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But nobody fact-checked Kamala, so I think we might as well do it.
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So we'll get into a few of Kamala's lies, and then we'll get into some more big picture.
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That also helps the algorithm, gets it out to more people.
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Let's go ahead and get into now some of the lies of Kamala.
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There's at least two that we want to hit in particular.
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So the one where she said, hemmed and hawed about how all she wants to do is reestablish the conditions of Roe.
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And then Trump said, well, that means you can do abortions in the 7th, 8th, and the 9th month.
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And she did not literally outright say the words, well, that is not the case.
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But she very heavily implied, I think she may have even said, no state exists that's allowing unrestricted abortion access.
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And that idea of unrestricted abortion access is really, all of this discussion needs to be taken with the point that our viewers know, that we don't want any abortion.
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So we're not saying abortion later is better than abortion earlier.
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Yeah, we don't want—Trump is bragging about being a leader of IVF, and I would say, that's a no.
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But the idea of unrestricted abortion is, even from a moral mentality, an important phrase.
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Because what it says is there is no point in a pregnancy when that child is a person.
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So even to restrict abortion to the first two trimesters, at least is ceding ground to the Christian worldview, which says that is a person at some point.
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And now we're just arguing about when it's a person.
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But the idea of unrestricted abortion denies for the entirety of the pregnancy that there is no human there and there's no moral responsibility that we have to it before God.
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And so when she said that there's no state that allows unrestricted abortion, what she's saying is all the states agree that there's some moral fencing around this practice to some degree.
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So she's saying abortion's happening, but we still have moral fences around it.
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But the reality is there are eight or nine states that allow, the language has no qualifiers until the child is born that would prohibit in any way an abortion all the way even up till birth.
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I had the screenshot and I left it on my computer and I brought my phone instead.
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um but it's it's completely unrestricted completely unrestricted yes and so kamala's
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saying well yeah nobody does that yeah that it's true that uh less people right more people are
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going to get an abortion if they're going to do so they're going to do it earlier um but trump was
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not lying that it is a fact that there are eight or nine states that have no restrictions and then
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beyond that trump went even further and he said um you know he said that uh you can even kill the
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baby in some cases in some states after birth and that was fact checked by um by you know uh
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kamala's debate partners um you know it's like a what is it lincoln douglas when there's like two
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right this was like a you know like lincoln lincoln douglas you know there's three of them but
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um but you know that was fact checked by the moderators and um and they just flat out lied
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they flat out lied um what trump said you can go and and verify it is absolutely true um that the
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governor in virginia um before the guy who's there now who is what yunkin yunkin so before
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right but before yunkin but the previous governor before yunkin um it it was passed under under his
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watch he he approved of this bill that allowed for uh if there was a botched abortion this is
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what trump was referring to that meaning the baby was born alive the baby's born alive i'm sorry
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that's that's a different thing this was just a woman who wants to have an abortion at the last
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second but she's already a partial birth abortion comes out comes out they couldn't get the abortion
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because in in virginia at the time you had to have three doctors sign off on late-term abortions and
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so the idea is towards the end the woman's at the hospital and she's like actually i want to abort
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this and they can't get a third doctor signature so the woman delivers the baby then can they come
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back after that and have a conversation so in that case the baby is uh and trump you can go
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back and watch the footage um he he said he used some kind of qualifying word like um in this he
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said you you put the baby aside and discuss whether or not you want to keep it uh while the
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baby's just sitting there and he said um it's practically an execution uh he said something
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like that either practically or basically it's effectively or practically it's basically an
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execution um and so he did not say they're uh that they're uh executing in terms of like you know
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putting um a baby on a guillotine but he's absolutely right you might as well um you are
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putting a newborn child off to the side in isolation alone while you talk with this woman
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and if she decides that she wants to murder the baby who's already been born alive perfectly
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healthy baby uh then what what do they do they don't go and inject it they don't go and kill it
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uh what they do is they they simply abandon it until it eventually just dies um so there was
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nothing that trump said that was untrue in fact if he would if he would have been he was a little
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bit underprepared in this area i think because kamala harris is on record as a senator voting
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for the bill it didn't pass they didn't have the votes for it but voting for the bill that you
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mentioned which is when there's an attempted late-term abortion and the and the baby doesn't
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die that the doctors must let it die on the table and she voted for that and i don't like
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somewhere in his debate prep someone should have said if this comes up you say what about your vote
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as a u.s senator it's on record and in addition who's who's another governor uh tim tim walls
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he should have gone there who's that guy exactly so not not just the previous governor before glenn
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young in uh virginia but her running mate kamala's running mate tim walls um he signed this same bill
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that allows uh for a a child to be who's been born and is alive and viable and could live to be
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if the mother decides i don't want it to be tossed aside in isolation abandoned completely until it
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eventually dies uh which again trump's language was essentially or effectively or basically an
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execution so there's nothing that he said there that was untrue and it's not just the point is
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it's not just that kamala disagreed with them and said you're lying the moderators yeah fact
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checked him in real time zero fact checks for kamala but fact checked him with a lot without
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facts what did you say about did you say six of those andrew isker is from minnesota so he's been
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there he's now moving to tennessee but during his time there he said uh under tim walls is
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i don't know what you call it but uh six children were murdered that way and um birthed children
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birthed children like born born alive born alive murdered in the state of minnesota just put aside
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put aside yep which is murder it's not like well we set it aside and nature took no that's you we
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would all agree yeah that is the murder and the execution of uh innocent life yeah and so so the
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thing that the not just kamala who of course is going to lie right as she said about the 2020
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debates with the primaries she said it was a debate it was a debate right when she was questioned
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but you said this thing about biden that is factually untrue and she's like it was a debate
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it like aka it's okay it's allowed she said that even stephen colbert i think it was an interview
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with him even he was like like you flat out lied here yeah you know that so so my point is you
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expect her to lie right like that's you know because according to her definition of a debate
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a debate is a context for lies um so you would expect that but this was the moderator yeah and
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the moderator is fact-checking trump and saying that he's lying when what he's saying is exactly
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100 precisely true and not only is it true about some governor of some state somewhere it's true
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of the governor who is Kamala's running mate and not just that it's true it's his position
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it has happened six times under his watch it's incredible too because uh like Van Till and um
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Greg Bonson talk about this the unbeliever is always suppressing the truth of God you can think
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of it like a beach ball that's being held under the water and they're trying to keep it down
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suppressing the truth that they know in their hearts they know what's right they know what's
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wrong and their conscience will condemn them on the last day so the unbeliever is suppressing the
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truth and you notice how they come to the defense of like well no no no these partial birth or these
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full-term abortions aren't happening and i would say that's because even the unbeliever as wicked
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as they are as unregenerate and as hard as their hearts are as committed as they are to suppressing
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the truth of god and unrighteousness even they to some degree still know that is pretty horrific
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right to leave uh just a newborn child on a cold operating room to die parents that have had kids
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and they're like, even as leftists or atheists, they're like, man, that little baby didn't need
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me. That sounds pretty barbaric. So right there, you saw them rushing to her defense. No, no, no,
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it's not happening. This isn't allowed in the United States because they know because the
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unbeliever knows right and wrong and they know how wicked abortion is. They can tell you, they can
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lie, they can protest. No, no, no. We think this is reproductive rights. We think this is women's
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rights. All of them, deep down in their hearts, they know absolutely that it's wicked. And you
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could see when it finally got to the level that there was no denying it anymore, they had to
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say like well that's not happening and that's not legal because we agree at least that would be
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barbara i'm more cynical than you wes because i think in the way that they have owned the language
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it's abortion it's not child killing it's not murder right um it's only a matter of time i think
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on the trajectory that we're going before post-birth abortion will become an acceptable
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category to seared consciences like i i agree with you we're at the point where that is still
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repulsive to most people but give it just give it time wes and we will we will stick that cow
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branding iron on the conscience of america for just a little longer and then post-birth abortion
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becomes reproductive rights too right right um okay so that was one of the lies and there are
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several there's a lot more than two but there's one more we're going to address two um you know
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thoroughly okay so there's one more that we want to give a thorough debunking to and uh just for
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the record all right here's the disclaimer uh the one that we just addressed is the issue of life
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the sanctity of life human beings from the moment of conception which is fertilization not implantation
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but fertilization from the moment of conception this is a full image bearer of the living god
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and that is in terms of objective standards objective morality god standard that is far and
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way um the most important issue not the second one i'm going to mention however from a strategic
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not so much moral or ethical standpoint but from a strategic civilizational standpoint since we
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have since we have an election to win and because um we have universal suffrage the 19th amendment
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has not yet been appealed repealed repealed because the 19th amendment has not been repealed
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and we have an election to win um for strategic purposes not ethical but strategic purposes
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uh we've got to talk about uh what hits home for them yep and sadly it's not babies
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but it is cats so let's talk about that that was i mean seriously if we want to win an election
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like it's it's sad but it's worth saying and i'm saying this it's like joel you seem angry i am
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furious yeah i seem angry i am furious that we have millions of women in our country who love
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their cats more than they love babies um but here we are so if you know if we want to be strategic
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and shrewd and play the political game and all those kinds of things which i'm down for within
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reason so long as it's adhering to god's law then yeah you know what um killing babies for women in
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america doesn't seal the deal uh but cats do so let's talk about women's pets yeah okay all right
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so the town of springfield ohio you've all probably now heard of this little town by now
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it's a town of about 68,000 people. And over the last couple of years, what has happened is that
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under a temporary protective status, the Biden administration essentially dropped 20,000
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immigrants. Actually, no, I'm going to call them invaders, aliens, not just immigrants. Oh,
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I'm seeking a better life. Invaders dropped 20,000 of these people into the small town of
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Springfield, Ohio. Now, the way we traffic in stories and memes and experiences and everything
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like that, things don't really hit home until we see it, right? A picture is worth a thousand
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words. And so there's been actually for a while, people have gone back and watched city council
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recordings, looked at newspaper clippings. The citizens of this town have been struggling for
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a while. There's been people that have gotten into traffic accidents, children killed by some
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of these violent invaders that have come in. But what really hit home over the weekend was two
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pictures, really a picture and a video. The one was a picture of a man, a Haitian, what looked
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to be a Haitian man wearing an oversized hoodie and baggy pants, holding a duck that he had just
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killed and wrung the neck of from a local, what we could assume would be a pond, walking with it
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home to eat it. So that was one. And then there's another video, and this isn't actually of an
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invader or anything like that. She was an American citizen, and she's in the driveway in Canton,
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Ohio, eating the cat of the family. So the police showed up. This is the body cam footage.
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ma'am what are you doing attempting to eat this family's pet in the driveway right so those two
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stories kind of combined and the idea came out of like well it's haitian invaders that are eating
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household pets and springfield police and this is what happened during the debate so donald trump
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said look these people these they're coming in they're violent they're destroying these
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communities they're eating the cats and the dogs our pets heads are falling off yeah our pets heads
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are falling off dumb and dumber made an entrance into the debate that's literally a line from jim
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cary yep and trump used it and it told i'm here for it totally makes sense not surprised at all
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the moderator mr president the moderator came out and said well no no springfield police have
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came out and said that they haven't heard of any incidents right the city manager city manager
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there's been none of this this has been all debunked uh for one what type of any investigative
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journalist will go to one person and that one person being called by cnn or whoever just gives
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you the answer you want nothing to see here yeah everything sounds to be on the up and up and so
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individuals like vice president nominee jd vance they got some plaque like oh you spread this story
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you said people were reading these pets there's none of this going on whatsoever i'm gonna read
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a post this is from michael foster michael foster is a pastor in ohio this is from a pastor friend
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of his and it's actually going to be on the screen pastor lives in springfield right pastor lives in
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springfield yep let me just pull it up and it's going to be on the screen if you're watching
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eating cats for decades it's a common practice there all right so he says for those who have
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not been following this is kind of recapping what i just said two local catholic charities
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have contracted with the federal government to relocate refugees this is publicly disputed but
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the evidence is overwhelming at present 20 000 haitians now live in a ohio town of 60 000
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residents the results are predictable and i can confirm the stories are true traffic accidents
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involving haitian drivers has skyrocketed property damage hit and runs and more one kid was killed
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when a driver slammed into a school bus filled with kids.
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Stores are locking down merchandise due to rampant theft.
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The local district has had to spend north of $300,000 on translators.
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I spoke with a teacher who said there's not nearly enough room in the existing buildings.
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A friend of mine in real estate said that most of the Haitian families
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have bank cards from somewhere with $20,000 earmarked for buying homes.
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The market was already tight, but now the prices are soaring.
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don't get me started on the hospitals and yes the stories about haitians killing and eating
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neighborhood cats and ducks from local parks is true i know situations like this are complicated
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politically and culturally but that is what i get most frustrated about is when people kind of call
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this kind of policy compassionate there is not an ounce of compassion in this situation for either
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the immigrants nor the citizens of springfield the citizens are being ignored and immigrants are
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being manipulated by deep pockets somewhere benefits the politically collected elites
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and business class and nobody else uh daily wire they're on the ground as well and they're they're
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reporting like yeah jack vasovic yep they're like yeah the families are like these strange things
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are happening uh there's a young man his last name is clark 11 year old boy just just in the chat
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some people i noticed somebody said well um foster's church is in batavia ohio and so just
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again for clarification if you're tuning in right now um this is not michael foster's own personal
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account this is him well it is the account but he's yeah this is him passing along an account
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of one of his friends who is also a pastor and who is not a pastor in michaelstown otavia right
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who is a pastor in spring uh springfield yep exactly this is a guy on the ground he is a
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local minister in that community and other reporters like daily wire and jack basibiak
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they're on the ground they're reporting the same thing yep the the citizens are stressed you saw
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a woman at city council and the fact-checking moderators what they're using as their evidence
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is no one on the ground right but um yeah we we have one of our people made a phone call to a
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city manager who is probably if anything has reason to be defensive and like no i haven't
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let my town go to crap uh you know like uh no that's that's not happening uh so their evidence
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is we made a phone call and talked to one person the city manager uh but michael foster is saying
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i'm friends with the pastor here's his eyewitness account of what he's seen happening and he's on
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the ground he lives there he pastors a church in springfield and there are other like you said jack
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uh the cbac yep and then with human events daily wires also on the ground reporters on the ground
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connect the dots the um animal sacrifice eating of it this is directly connected to witchcraft
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haiti is a demonic place this stuff we've talked about it before is on the rise this was shocking
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i saw this last year there's a trail clam that caught two nurses without clothing eating the
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carcass of a deer i saw that like this stuff is on the rise why because people just wake up and
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the one day it's like you know what really sounds good right now raw domestic house cat uh no they
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worship demons commune with demons and and dumb demon worshipers then go out and do dumb demon
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worshiping things like kill and eat animals right savages yep and then they they have no place the
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point is uh in in a town like that they need to go back to where they came from and so there are
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multiple eyewitness accounts and for the record that was another you know with the fact checking
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it's like well you know uh that's not true they're not eating people's pets you know and and that's a
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that's a crafty way of like defending and saying that's right like now we know that what's actually
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that they are actually eating ducks by the dozens out of the pond you know like it's like you know
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duck filet you know like a chick-fil-a you know uh but but that's not someone's pets and so i can
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just sit here on you know national television and say uh trump is a liar fact check you know
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that's right you know entirely false what you said is entirely false meanwhile they uh they're
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eating ducks but it's not just that it's not just a crafty way of a defense like you could you could
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also say like well yeah and there have been some cats too but they weren't pets you see and so we
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said that's a lie they're not needs exactly they were cats in an alleyway or blah blah blah
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but the fact of the matter remains ducks and cats ducks and cats from eyewitnesses not a phone call
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to the city manager who has every reason to defend you know that he's doing a good job in his city
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and that it hasn't gone to hell in a handbasket but no guys on the ground local pastors who live
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in the area have been there for years and reporters who are not just making a phone call but get boots
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on the ground um and and the report is no it is not just ducks it's also cats um and could they
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all be feral cats maybe um but the point is uh this was not some far-fetched you know ridiculous
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lie but that's literally i'm glad i because that triggered my memory that when i said the word
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ridiculous that was literally the word that kamala used as her response she was like ridiculous
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ridiculous yeah ridiculously true it is ridiculous but it's true yeah yeah i want to connect this
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back to what we said earlier which is the idea of the total state because ohio is a state that has
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gone more red than i think people expected to over the last couple of years and it's not
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surprising to me that not only are they sowing chaos and anarchy but they're importing massive
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numbers of Haitians into small towns like this. And I know that the post from Michael Foster's
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friend said that there's a lot of people driving without licenses. But I also saw videos where a
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guy went down to the DMV and was asking, and none of the DMV employees would talk to him. So take
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this as a second. But he was talking to people renewing their licenses at the DMV. And they said
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like they've passed a driving test. They can't read the
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these are just the one uh these are just they're haitians are normal people this is very racist
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okay go yeah go go up nathan real quick in the chat um somebody uh doesn't doesn't like our
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haitian hate uh it's not haitian hate it's just yeah it's a stadium we love haitian people and
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we want to see faith in jesus christ joe k k n y c y omg haitians are just regular people this is
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so racist no they are not regular people no when you there are roving cannibal gangs down there
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right now we heard on the island on the island of haiti yes we heard just a couple months ago
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a missionary couple uh they were on the phone with her it was a husband and a wife they were
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on the phone with her parents and they were gunned down by the roving gangs there when you
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and it is a long history of voodoo of witchcraft of cannibalism of wickedness uh all people like
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all cultures are not like we have the u.s here and we worship the triune god and value honesty
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and integrity and freedom and liberty and you have haiti and they eat people and both are equal
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no no they're not uh one is vastly superior and if you would like to go to haiti hit me up and i'd
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be happy to buy you buy you a plane ticket and you can go see how normal they are right and for two
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calling racist that word has no power here yeah you have no power here yep uh racist it just
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doesn't mean anything um sadly you know like i think that there is such a thing in biblical terms
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we did a whole episode on this uh there is such a thing as righteous judgment and there's a such
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a thing as sinful judgment matthew chapter 7 is a perfect example the first five verses
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talk about do not judge and the whole implication is don't give wrong judgments right so there's a
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wrong judgment that if you judge wrongly sinfully you too will be judged with the same measure you
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judge others you too will be judged but then verse 6 matthew 7 6 says do not give to dogs what is
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holy or to swine you know uh what is holy um or to uh uh dogs do not give your pearls to swine or
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dogs what is holy unless they trample them and trample you also um well how do i know who swine
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and dogs are so that i know not to give you make a judgment yep you make a judgment and by the way
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when it's talking about swine and dogs this is jesus in a sermon describing a certain type of
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person yeah people made in the image of god calling them swine calling them dogs so uh there's
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judgment that's sinful. That's Matthew 7 verses 1 through 5. Don't do it. And then judgment that
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is permissible, mainly being right judgment. You have to exercise a judgment in order to know who
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you should withhold holy things and pearls from. That's judgment. Prejudgment. Prejudice comes from
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those two words. Prejudgment. So that's judgment. There's sinful forms and righteous forms. Prejudgment,
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same thing there's a way to make righteous prejudgments and there's a way to make sinful
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prejudgments but racism in most 99 of the cases that's used today it is a made-up fake sin in
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the few cases where racism actually is legitimate it would be a prejudgment that is sinful that
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Meaning it is solely based on the color of someone's skin, their race, without any other
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Like when the Apostle Paul says, all cretins are gluttons and liars.
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Just like Jesus called certain people swine and dogs.
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There's a rich Christian tradition of calling people animals.
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Not only pointing out that people eat certain kinds of animals, but that they even are animals.
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If you want to be in the same camp as Jesus and the Apostle Paul, then get used to it.
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But when Paul says all Cretans are lazy gluttons and liars and lazy beasts, when he says that, he's not saying it on a whim.
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He is quoting a prophet, someone else who said it, and then he confirms and says, and he's right.
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And the person who said it, Paul says, was one of their own.
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It was a Cretan prophet or philosopher of the Cretans who said about his own people.
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And so Paul is saying, this guy said it about his own people.
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And what would make that a sinful prejudgment is if Paul was prejudging prejudice based off of no exterior factors whatsoever,
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without any other evidence without any other metrics any other nothing but that's not the
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case paul is saying this for a reason paul knows the cretan people um paul paul has uh has spent
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time he he's invested he knows and so he's making a generalization right could there be one cretan
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who who is uh a decent guy yeah maybe like the the philosopher that he's elders so he's saying
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they're all in crepe this is why i left you and they love the cretan people he knows there's
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Because he literally says to Titus, this is why I left you in Crete, to put what remains
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into order, appointing elders in all the churches.
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He left his beloved son in the faith, Titus, in Crete, to put in Cretan pastors as elders.
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And yet Paul's also saying, and yet we recognize the gospel, right, like a mustard seed that
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takes time to grow into an all-earth-encompassing tree or like a little leaven that takes time
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until the gospel grows for now because of centuries of a history of demon worship and and sin
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and rebellious practices uh cretins in general are not ethical people that is a perfectly biblical
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thing to say so the the uh haitians haiti in general are there exceptions of course there
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are always exceptions joel's mentioning right there like well i live around some right sure
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you live around some and i and maybe how long have they been in the u.s have they been that
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would be another question how long have they been here and been influenced by western customs
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civilization which is built for the record western civilization was built on biblical principles so
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if you are immersed in western civilization you are getting at least some immersion into the
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biblical worldview because that's what it's all been based on so if you've been here for 20 years
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It's like, well, I met a Haitian, and he was a pretty nice guy.
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Yeah, but has he been immersed into the Christian worldview for the last 20 years of his life?
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So that's another W for the West, not for Haiti.
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My wife had a friend that was, she was from Haiti, but she lived here 20 years.
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She was normal, went to church, and a Christian, because she went to church, was normal, and a Christian.
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And so in Haiti, in general, and you just, you have, we have to, the only reason I'm laboring the point, and we'll go on,
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we have to break the demonic egalitarian system that we've all been brainwashed with not everyone
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is equal right everyone is equal in their innate dignity as an image bearer of the living god so
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if we're talking about inherent dignity value and worth as an image bearer categorical categorical
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yes we are all equal but we are not all equally ethical we are not all equally intelligent right
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right we're not right it's like me and michael jordan we both had equal opportunity to play in
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the nba bulls the bulls bull s uh no me and michael jordan did not have an equal opportunity to play
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in the nba uh because from birth he had some giftings that i don't have and west i've seen
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west you know he used to invite me to play basketball with men in the church after the
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sunday evening service you know so sabbatarian right there's the sun has gone down we've already
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done a full lord's day it's you know it meets the commandment right this is this is not a 4v
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a 4c uh violation but um i stopped getting the invites from wes i tried like two or three times
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and then he was like nah joel honestly joel has no business i saw you trying to teach your son
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and i was like i think i'll just rescind that one yeah we'll rescind that invitation he told me
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actually all part of it is he saw me trip on a sunday i was carrying my son it was sad because
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i was carrying my son and i was trying to you know fall and protect him but i like sometimes
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when you're carrying a kid you can't see your feet it's like this huge uh blind spot and there
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was like this massive rock and i i literally just got done baptizing two people i i'm biased but i
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think i preached a pretty good sermon i'm on i'm on you know cloud nine i'm feeling pretty good like
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all right and then in front of half the congregation you know i just eat dust and uh and the lord is
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good and that's how he keeps me humble i really i literally it's not that i i had a metaphorical
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fall i literally fell on my face in front of the church with your son you know and then uh i think
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that was the the straw that broke the camel's back where west said uh you're no longer the
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basketball games so anyways the point is not everybody's equal we're not equally athletic
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we're not equally uh intelligent with iq we're not equally ethical and the same way it works
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for individuals it also works for cultures not all cultures are equal the west is better not
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different it's not like oh they do things some one way and we do it another uh which is different
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nope uh we are different that's true and the difference is we're better we're better and
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here's the deal here's the reason why because the west was shaped by jesus christ and the scriptures
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for 1500 years since constantine and the gospel makes people better so that's not this is not
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white supremacy this is not racism this is not arrogance or pride this is me with my faith as
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a christian pastor saying yeah i think the bible makes a difference and if it doesn't if the bible
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shaping a civilization and nations for 1500 years doesn't make any difference to where that
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civilization becomes better then i'm in the wrong business yep and i i gotta find a job and do
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something else with my time if the bible doesn't make a difference so yes these united states are
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better than haiti and that's why they're here that's why they're coming yeah okay sorry there
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real recognizes real all right all right next break all right next break and we will come back
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and give uh another uh another tweet from michael clary that was super insightful and then we're
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going to deal with uh the chat uh we we want to take some questions for you so you guys real quick
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as we're going to this commercial break go ahead and start writing in your questions for us and we
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will do our best to respond to as many of them as possible we usually get to at least half if not
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more yep and uh and the way to kind of get yours so that we don't skip it is if you can in the chat
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so we know that it's not just uh because you guys you know you you always have your sidebar
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um but but make sure that you specify that this is a question so get your questions in uh we'll
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yourself in the word. All right, well, welcome back. You mentioned we're going to read for
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michael clary really great insight he's a pastor in cincinnati ohio so great guy to follow um good
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ohioans this week right i know just ohio is that that state where you're like please lord don't
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send me on missions to ohio i'll go to missouri just please not ohio but uh great guys out there
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here's what he said true political debate is dead it'll be on the screen as well the media is largely
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to blame for true debate to occur the participants have to share enough in common to make their
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difference is meaningful and worthy of discussion. But Trump and Harris do not share the same ethical
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universe. They have zero in common, no shared values. Their worldviews are so radically divergent
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and incompatible that all either of them could hope for is to score some zingers and gotcha
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moments that could be clipped on social media. Nothing of substance will be remembered. All the
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focus will now turn to aesthetics, the handshake, the tone, how they looked, who scored points on
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the other, how viewers felt watching it. The moderator's questions all assumed leftist framing
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and priorities. Abortion, climate change, gun control, January 6, racism. There are leftists
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who ask questions about leftist priorities. They didn't ask any questions about things that I care
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about, such as religious freedom, censorship, government corruption, Trump's assassination
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attempt. It's amazing they didn't even ask about that. The transgender movement, the moral decay
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of our society, the mental health of the USA's children, population decline, among others.
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The leftist worldview is the assumed paradigm of the media, which prevented true debate from
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happening. It's like the rest of us don't even exist and maybe that's their goal. We were talking
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a couple of weeks ago at a guy's night about Kamala Harris's acceptance speech and she uses
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the terms that are so familiar to us as Americans, justice, freedom, and liberty. And I think every
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single one of us at this table would agree with our definitions that justice, freedom, and liberty
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are wonderful God-given things. Amen to true biblical justice. Amen to freedom and to liberty
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for you and to your family, for unalienable rights that every human being has.
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But notice the difference when I talk about justice.
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I talk about justice that's indifferent to the born and the unborn, equal weights and
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I would like the freedom to not go to my public library and have to step over homeless people
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with my children, the freedom to start a business, the freedom to not be taxed 40%, the liberty
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to own a gun, the liberty to worship freely in the public square.
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How is the left defining justice, freedom, and liberty?
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It's freedom to smoke weed, to be a degenerate, for children to do irreversible surgeries to themselves.
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I don't know, like the liberty to watch perverse movies.
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so how do you share a world when we can say the same words that i could sit across the table from
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someone that's liberal and i could say yeah freedom and liberty are good things we should
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strive for and they say i agree but we don't even have in the same universe the same meanings of
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those i i don't know how that conflict gets resolved i think worse times more difficult
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times now hopefully good times are ahead just in that we make progress but it's two nations
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It's a group of people that have some shared vision of at least what the USA used to be,
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a Christian nation, and then people over here, and there's not overlap.
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We almost, we talk past each other whenever there's any type of dialogue.
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I'm going to take a quote from Steve Dace here, and I may have said this a few weeks
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ago, so I'll say it quickly, but he said he was reluctant for months and months and months
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to embrace Aron McIntyre's framing of positive world, neutral world, and negative world.
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And he said he was reluctant to embrace it, not because he disagreed with Aron's arguments,
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He was reluctant to embrace that because the implication of living in negative world
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means it changes the terms of engagement, he said.
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And that was so helpful to me, because if we live in a negative world, which we do,
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and what you said, Wes, how do we resolve this?
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And how do we ensure the safety of our children?
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And how do we even have the freedom to preach the gospel that our hearers might come to
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faith in jesus christ and be saved and forgiven of their sins um it's it's actually simple really
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hard right but not complex it's really simple um you win you have to win yep um when we're at we're
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at war we are in war it's like and and for every pietist oh my gosh like every pietist on twitter
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i'm looking at you reformed inc um for every pietist on twitter you know saying well our
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battles not against flesh and blood but against you know like what and the only reason they're
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quoting that this is what they mean by that uh what they mean is um i'm tired of seeing guys
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who are applying christian theology to uh the culture war getting more views on youtube than me
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and i'm envious and jealous and effeminate and uh and i want to remind you guys um and bring you
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back to the good old days neutral world when uh everybody came to our conferences and nobody
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really cared about you know politics or those things and where we could have you know um the
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470th you know conference on the doctrines of grace in a row you know and the reformation
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we're still you know fighting for the reformation you know um no um the bible says first timothy
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the apostle paul says uh rebuke your opponents with gentleness right so when you do have an
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opponent opponent rebuke them with gentleness but he gives a specific reason why he says
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because you do not know if god might grant them repentance that they might come to their senses
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after here's the key after having been taken captive by satan to do his will so here's the
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point right here's a little cross-reference exegesis right so our battle's not against
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flesh and blood but then the verse that i just quoted from first timothy you put those together
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This is cross-reference, exegesis, building a biblical doctrine.
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Our battles against not flesh and blood, but principalities.
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According to 1 Timothy, and what Paul writes there, Satan takes flesh and blood captive
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What Paul is writing in Ephesians, our battle that's not with flesh and blood,
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is he's talking about the origin and the ultimate source of our battle yeah paul is not negating
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um the natural world he's not saying uh war is just you know like the matrix and paul's not a
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hippie right he's not saying there is no spoon ah dude oh man there is no you know the world is
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i'm just a citizen of the world man there's no there's no boundaries god didn't put those in
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you know there's no borders and there's no wars and nobody's upset like paul is not an idiot he
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knows that we battle flesh and blood there are wars with flesh and blood one tribe against another
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tribe one nation against another nation he knows that and he knows that even at the spiritual level
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with political war and cultural war and spiritual war that these spiritual entities satan being chief
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among them negative spiritual entities demonic ones that he takes people captive and so in
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battling satan we have to battle people we battle it in in the realm of the ideas in the realm of
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voting in the civil realm in the academic realm and all these different realms and sadly because
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we live in a sin riddled world sometimes you have to battle them literally now i'm not advocating
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for that we're certainly not advocating for that but there have been times throughout history
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and a time like that could come again we don't want it but it could where there's literal not
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a cold civil war but a civil war that gets hot something like that could happen and then the
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Christian should be able to sleep at night with a clear conscience knowing I'm fighting for my wife
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and children, friends and family, for the members of my church against people that I don't want to
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do this, but I have to do this. I'm not a pacifist. I fight what's in front of me because I love
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what's behind me. I love what I'm protecting. I love who I'm protecting. So there is this kind
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of war. We can't just be pietist and say, you know, that, oh, we just fight in our prayer closets
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in the 17th dimension that that doesn't that's just not the way the world works yeah yeah so
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anyways all i can't even remember how i got onto that i mean there's a point that i was we have to
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win the war is we have to win we have to win we have to win and so that's what what negative world
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means um you know the the positive the neutral and the negative is there was a time where it
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benefited you to be a christian in the west and in these united states that was positive war there
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was a time where it didn't it didn't benefit you didn't help you didn't hurt you that's neutral
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world right and aaron wren he said he puts that at like 19 i think he says 1994 or 1993 all the
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way up to 2014 yeah but then 2015 and beyond is is now not neutral not positive but negative world
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and so how do you back to steve days how do you engage yep in in negative world well in negative
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world uh the way that you engage is uh with an iron will the way that you engage is uh you have
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to be ruthlessly committed to winning real tangible political cultural academic
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ecclesiastical power you must seize power and then with that power you then wield it righteously
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and when power is wielded righteously it is a blessing to the righteous and it is even a
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blessing to the wicked if they choose to turn from their wicked ways everybody wins everybody
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wins the atheist will fare much better in a under christian nationalism than if christians lose
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what you'll get which will not be a globo homo gay globalism right globo homo gay globalism
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has always ever been a temporary placeholder it doesn't have staying power it's not viable
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how do you know that a worldview is not viable well any worldview that kills all of its offspring
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is not long-term viable everyone else and sterilizes everybody else is not viable that
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that dog won't hunt in other words what am i saying secular humanism right will not last it
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is merely a placeholder secular humanism was the parasite that killed the original host of the
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west aka christianity chrysidom and once it kills the host the parasite also dies secular humanism
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will kill itself and is currently killing itself as it kills christianity and so then what will
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replace it uh secular globalism gay homo no it will be nationalism but if you kill christianity
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it won't be christian nationalism it will be islamic jihad nationalism and then you tell me
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you tell me homosexual how well do you do underneath that nationalism you tell me atheist
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how well do you do under i mean guys have talked about richard dawkins and these guys have come
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out and said yeah we we gave our lives to killing christianity whoops we made a mistake turns out
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that at least some fabric rubric of christianity if nothing else just cultural christianity
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is absolutely it is the defensive immune system it is the defensive mechanism for the survival of
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the west and we have been working to kill it and and we made a mistake because now what's coming
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is not our utopian dream of atheism turns out that isn't viable atheism immediately if it kills
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christianity it immediately gets swallowed up by another viable world religion which is not
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secularism it's not atheism it'll be something else like islam and so you gotta win if you love
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the righteous win if you love god yeah win if you love the wicked yeah win for everyone if you're
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going to engage in negative world which is where we are today you must win men must be governed
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type in your other one so go ahead west read it all right so yellow yellow moth for response
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ministries what do you think of kamala telling people to go to trump rallies that was a strange
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play that i can't make heads or tails of bluff i'll give my answer super fast um she she's saying
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this to her constituents to her base who is what what who who's her base democrats democrats guess
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what they they don't do go places they don't go to her rallies they sure as hell aren't going to
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go to a trump rally they don't even go to the voting booth if it wasn't for mail-in ballots
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ballots a Democrat couldn't win so she's talking to people who uh they they use Uber Eats they
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don't work they don't go to a job they live off the government and our taxes those who do it so
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we're talking about people who don't go to church they don't go to work they don't go to the grocery
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store they don't go to a restaurant they won't even go to vote they'll mail in their ballot and
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and probably mail in a few of their neighbors ballots while they're at it and they're not
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going to go even to a Kamala rally because nobody's there and so she knows that it's a
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safe bluff they're not going to go to a Trump rally so what what's my how do I make heads or
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tails of it uh what i would say is it's um it's a good bluff it's saying um i'm so confident that
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his rallies are are terrible and boring uh that i dare you to go and who she's saying this to
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people who don't go anywhere it's a it's a smart bluff yeah that's my thought i'll take what i'm
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losing to you in chess sometimes i'll do like a risky gambit and be like well i'm kind of down
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as it is so i'm just gonna throw something out there i think that's what a little bit of it was
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like uh go to a trump rally see how bad it is kind of implying because like you said nobody's
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actually going to go but the idea would be like oh that sounds pretty dark going to a trump rally
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i bet there's swastikas there kind of this idea of dark boring places and it's kind of bravado
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on her part very fine people are there supposedly yeah that was another one of the lies it was from
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um kama that was from kama yeah but that yeah but they didn't debunk it so that one's been
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debunked again and again that would have been an opportunity for the moderator to say no actually
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it was very clear he was not referring to neo-nazis as very fine people debunked it but
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and the moderate they didn't which is right which is funny yeah like i would have assumed i was
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gonna say her saying that was kind of a false bravado right like it lets her come off as a
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tough guy yeah it sounds like oh man she's like she's not bi she's even telling us go you know
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you go find out how the sausage is made you go for yourself yeah yeah but who are you telling
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you're you're telling a bunch of degenerate porn addicted potheads who can't get out of bed right
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so it's a pretty safe it's a safe bluff and just for the record like trump you know swastikas or
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what are they no um you know like and trump like i'm you know he's gonna have a total abortion ban
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i wish yeah i wish um no like trump i don't think trump has even read the policies of project 25
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well he said he said last night yeah he is publicly distancing himself here's the deal
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and here's my point saying that it's not a defense of trump um i wish and i pray by god's
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grace that trump supernaturally by god's grace becomes half the man my enemies think he is that's
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right but he's not yeah right that's why right wing watch will pick up you know clips from every
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video we do and i'm sure they'll pick up especially they'll have a field day with the haiti stuff
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but like pick up videos and why because it's an election year and what are they trying to do well
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joel is a christian nationalist and so is trump right and so they're trying what they're trying
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to do is win an election they're left-wing you know uh propaganda publishing organization so
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they take uh right-wing people and and then they they clip them out they put it for you know millions
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of people to see they've been doing it with me and others for months and uh and why why are they
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doing it they're trying to say essentially what they're trying to say is if you vote for trump
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this is what you get well let me just settle that right now um if you vote for trump you don't get
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anything close to joel webb i wish you did but you don't uh trump is a a liberal 1990s democrat
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in new york yep who's now running for the republican nomination as president that's how
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far we've slid if you vote you voting for trump you get bill clinton yep that's what you get
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but like and maybe to bill clinton's left on a couple issues too joel are you saying the left
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is trying to win yeah they're trying to see the left they they understand and that's why they
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have power they have power because christians are um are pathetic i was gonna say just for like the
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christians they're not voting for trump i think you should i think that's wise but say they're
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not doing it and they're like man you guys seem all in but this isn't even going to get us started
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on the path of repentance uh yeah 100 we know trump wins an electoral landslide november 5th
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i think it is uh not even one percent of the work of repentance and turning back to god has been
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done but what we do have if he has an electoral sweep is time that's right kamala that's all
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kills time. Pastors, Christian leaders, families are going to be locked up, religious freedom,
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crushed, more babies murdered, so you have less time under that. And with Trump, it's not
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righteousness. He is not our Christian prince, and he won't be. He's an older man. He's not going to
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change his ways. He's not going to change. But we get more time for our leaders, our men,
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good magistrates, people that we trust, good godly men to be in his administration. That's why we're
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It buys more time for the nation to repent with gospel preaching and all of us working together as Christians.
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But it also, I'm glad you brought up the element of the administration.
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If you get Kamala, you will not have an evangelical Bible-believing Christian within 50 miles of the White House.
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nope or anywhere that that's what we're talking about is um yeah sure you'll have the reverend
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al sharpton you know like yeah so like you'll have you'll have guys who aren't christians but
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have bishop before their name and inoculate people into thinking yes that's christianity
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exactly because it'll be public it'll be on tv it'll be yep that's what christianity but you
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will not have one bible believing not one christian who believes that uh that marriage is between a
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man and a woman who believes that uh that from conception a child is made in the image of god
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and has sanctity and dignity of life you there um does trump hold to the sanctity of life like the
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lion that we wish he was no no um but god will judge him for it and god will judge him for it
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that's right but a dusty deavers abolitionist if trump is in the white house you you know uh what
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what could happen i can't predict it i don't have a crystal ball i'm not a prophet or the son of a
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profit but i'm saying it's absolutely possible and i think i could see it being more likely than
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not um i could see uh dusty deavers getting an audience at some point during a four-year
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administration with donald trump yep yeah you know who he will not get an audience with ever right
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kamala harris in fact if anything if anything um kamala harris uh will will make sure that a dusty
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deavers is in jail right or at minimum that he uh that there's some kind of you know big lobby and
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push and that he loses his seat as a state senator in oklahoma and also yes that's what you're voting
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for god can sovereignly work through persecution yes 100 but we are not welcoming we are not
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looking we are not trying to usher a persecution onto us onto our nation uh onto our political
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leaders like if god sovereignly brings persecution the gospel will triumph but we're not trying to
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bring it about we're not trying to like assume that if there's persecution that our civilization
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will be more prosperous no right right persecution is a cause for great weeping read lamentations
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read jeremiah the destruction of your town and your family is a cause to to tear your clothes
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i mean just lamentations is it's heartbreaking yeah because he's describing god judging them
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we are under judgment that judgment is going to continue by god's grace we want repentance
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and hey how about a good good spot to to begin repentance from our lack of natural affection
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our lack of love for our people how about not electing uh the indian african-american woman
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to be our president right how about that starting as a repentance not that all of it it's not just
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trump winning like there it is we repented no how about just even the start right let's maybe have
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some affection for a good man who can uh rule semi-justly yep um white pill okay white here's
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a white pill it's really simple but i i like i'm telling you it's true and you should you should
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really feel the weight of this because it is a big deal and it is encouraging uh the white pill
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is that um i can't promise that trump will be elected um but i think that we can take heart
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that it is far far more likely that he will live up until the election why uh because the last time
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trump mopped the floor with someone in a debate um there was an assassination attempt that shortly
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followed right and i i know i'm being a little facetious here but i'm i'm deathly serious um
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if trump had uh done really well in that debate and he didn't i'm not saying he did horrible but
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he did not do really well right he didn't i wish he did he didn't uh but if he had done really well
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mopped the floor with kamala harris um i i absolutely believe there would be another
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assassination attempt i think you know uh for the democrats for the deep state right uh plan a
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um debate when that fails plan b bullet yeah um they've already done it once it's not hyperbole
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it's literally what happened and we know that there was another shooter right we and and the
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fbi oh we you know we can't like still have like just memory hold it didn't even come up and and
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and in the debate it's only been a couple months that uh a former president of the united states
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almost died his ear was shot yeah you know and so um yeah that's all that is deep state not not
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even saying that uh oh the shooter was on the payroll or this or that maybe maybe not i don't
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know um but absolutely at bare minimum it is absolutely the fault of the deep state i think
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an intentional neglect um and incompetence with the secret service yeah um absolutely so um so yes
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so uh when trump won against biden handedly uh then the next plan was uh let's try to kill him
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and so with this they were about two inches away yeah and they were about two inches less than that
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yeah but yeah and so uh that's that's my white pill is um you know that i think uh because uh
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because trump didn't perform super well in the debate um i think he has a little bit more life
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insurance charles haywood yeah he has a prediction and he's he's made a couple good ones he's been a
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guest in the show i think a really astute observer he says come hell or high water trump is going to
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get elected but after that all hell is going to break loose like they are pulling out every stop
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this guy can't get back in power his administration was a little bit sidelined the first time it is
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not going to be that way this time they're pulling out every stop they have it's not going to work
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and he says that's the moment then be it a coup be a revolution be a violence in the streets
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that's when the last plug gets pulled we can't let him get into power i would have a couple weeks of
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food on hand come november uh have a plan uh men you should own a gun just be aware that um when
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violent people are cornered and it really looks like their time is up the animal gets violent
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and it lashes out and uh we really could see that i i pray to god not i pray that he wins
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it's a peaceful transfer and we get to work rebuilding this nation uh but rougher times
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can be ahead we don't get to be as disobedient and wicked as we have been corporately as a
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nation right and i experience the painful steps of repentance that's right amen uh real quick
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we've got an ignorant normie in the chat um nathan scroll up a little bit so this is um
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right there american wasp with deeter mcbusiness he says uh confederate christians justify their
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narcissism through victimhood by the way the shooter was a registered republican
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uh do you guys want to respond to that he's a registered republican
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uh andrew torba who's the ceo of gab and a personal friend uh found his account the shooter
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found his account and he had a gab account yep no and released it um to the fbi because it was
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asked for it was either to be destroyed probably cia cia um but then also showed some of the
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screenshots uh to the public um and uh the the guy was um was a flaming progressive liberal
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so uh the fact that he registered as a republican was a cover he had also made a donation it was
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small because he's a loser and probably didn't have a job and was poor you know but he he made
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uh a donation to act blue right which is not republican it's 100 percent liberal progressive
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democrat um and and the guy was a part of um like all all of his tweets were about um how happy was
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that biden was elected and leading up to the 2020 election how trump can't win and blah blah blah
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and like and the guy is a democrat right if he registered as a republican um then you know he
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he did it so that american wasp with deeter mick business um you know could uh you know could be
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deceived so congratulations you were fooled by a guy who was so foolish that he uh missed the
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president and has brands gone out i could tell he was a progressive because he was like 140 pounds
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soaking wet the physiognomy checked out like i saw one one screenshot and i was like this man
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is no republican right yeah no red meat eating that's true barbell lifting that is absolutely
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true um you start voting republican if you're a man and you reach a certain age or if you're a man
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and you bench a certain weight like those are like that's just the way even shane gills you know who
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is not a christian not conservative but even he said he was like he had a bit you know he's a
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comedian and said uh he said um you think your dad uh just graduated high school you know and
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decided to become a prick it's like no no no he said republicanism takes time yeah he's like
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he's like and it start you know where it starts starts with a fascination with history he's like
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i was going through the george washington you know museum and uh he's like and i felt it he
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was like he's just creeping up it's like i love america i love the founders i'm like you can't
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tax me with that he's like and then he's like and then they took me you know to the slave quarters
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for george washington he's like oh he's like and all of a sudden the republicanism started dying
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out you know uh inside of me you know and uh he's like but then they finished off the tour by showing
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me uh his wooden you know uh wooden teeth or something like that you know and then and then
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showed me one one other painting he was like we're back he's like so you know he's like uh you don't
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just graduate it's not like your dad graduated high school and decided to become a prick you
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know all in an afternoon uh republicanism takes time it takes uh either eating red meat and working
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out or uh it takes being old enough who who's the guy who said it's attributed to a bunch of guys
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but uh thomas jefferson and others uh if you're not a liberal when you're young uh then you don't
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have a heart yeah oh yeah if you're not a conservative when you're old then you don't
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have a brain yeah and uh what is his name wasp uh deeter business uh friend you do not have a brain
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