The NXR Podcast - THE LIVESTREAM - AB＊＊RTION IS STILL LEGAL EVERYWHERE w Brent Money

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00:00:30.000 If you live in a red state like Texas, Tennessee, or Florida, you may assume that since the end of

00:00:37.580 Roe v. Wade and the successful passage of heartbeat bills, that abortion is a thing of the past.

00:00:44.860 But this lie, primarily fueled by the pro-life industry, is exactly what stands in the way of

00:00:51.240 actually abolishing abortion. Even here in Texas, with some of the strictest laws in the nation,

00:00:58.020 tens of thousands of unborn children are murdered annually right here, legally.

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00:01:25.340 dot com forward slash donate today we are joined live in the studio by special guest

00:01:32.940 state representative brent money who just submitted legislation to end

00:01:38.140 abortion here in texas once and for all tune in now

00:01:43.180 all right well welcome back everyone happy friday friday uh we have state representative

00:01:59.440 brent money here in the studio brent how are you doing i'm doing great thanks for having me on i'm

00:02:02.940 sorry about my voice but i'm gonna do the best i can i love it uh you kind of sound like a rfk

00:02:07.800 junior yeah yeah what are you doing touching that diet coke um so we're here we're going to talk

00:02:17.100 about very exciting bill that you filed that'll be mostly in the second segment but uh just to

00:02:21.380 kind of lay the groundwork so we're talking about abortion but we're here in texas texas has i think

00:02:26.960 like if you go through it some of the other ones might be close we have the strictest laws in the

00:02:31.640 nation against abortion there's a really clever law actually 2021 2022 it's kind of a trigger bill

00:02:37.680 that was passed, and basically the idea of it was, once Roe v. Wade was abolished, that it allowed

00:02:42.280 actually private citizens to sue abortion providers. And these abortion providers, what then they didn't

00:02:46.660 end up having was any standing for relief from the higher courts. So if it was the state that said,

00:02:51.180 we're going to sue you, we're going to do this, that, or the other, then these abortion providers 0.57

00:02:54.720 could say and go to the Supreme Court, like, hey, can you give us relief while this works its way 1.00

00:02:57.800 through? But because any citizen of Texas could sue someone for a minimum of $10,000 in damages,

00:03:03.220 there's actually no standing before you actually would commit the abortion and then actually be

00:03:08.000 sued so it's actually a really brilliant bill and it's led to there really no clinics exist now in

00:03:13.120 texas that actually offer them and doctors by god's grace are scared to even provide them

00:03:17.980 that's kind of the the lay of the land here in texas and i think a lot of of good godly salt

00:03:24.280 of the earth people they think like that kind of did it like that's it we shut down the clinics we

00:03:29.020 have these heartbeat bills in place. There's some type of civil penalties. It's over, right? Like it

00:03:34.680 might not be over in the nation, but at least here in Texas. And unfortunately, that's just not the

00:03:38.760 case. We have this conception. We can have that. We think of abortion as kind of this clinical

00:03:42.880 thing. We think of forceps and chemicals and vacuums. And we think of abortion. That's kind

00:03:47.580 of our idea. I go into the clinic and I get that. But really what's transitioned here, especially

00:03:51.720 since these bans have had success, the repeal of Roe v. Wade, has been abortion via pill. That's

00:03:56.520 not the only mechanism but it's a big one abortion via pills these are pills that are available

00:04:01.240 through the mail they're available for purchase they're legal in all 50 states and that's what's

00:04:05.660 really taken over and it's still here in texas completely legal and i want to show you real

00:04:11.220 quick don't a lot of those pills like even if you're in oklahoma or other states where abortion

00:04:15.340 is allegedly abolished uh don't a lot of the pills come out of boston um our capital i have not heard

00:04:22.820 that um most of them come actually from overseas okay but but there are doctors in abortion safe

00:04:30.580 states uh that will prescribe them and then a lot of times they come in packages in the mail

00:04:37.140 literally with no markings on them to say where they came from what's in them they have no

00:04:42.580 instructions inside it's just a bottle um and uh which can be very dangerous um for the for the

00:04:50.420 mother but um it also just it it takes away a lot of the barriers to adoption that i mean i'm sorry

00:04:57.100 barriers to abortion that existed uh previously yeah and just for the record i'm going to show

00:05:03.220 a short video this is from planned parenthood this is just as inhumane it's just as much murder

00:05:08.520 as any type of clinic abortion this is still murder it's still a terrible thing that's being

00:05:13.820 done to the pre-born pre-born it's not especially graphic but i'm going to show a short video just

00:05:18.120 showing from Planned Parenthood what these abortions actually look like.

00:05:21.580 There are two kinds of abortion, in-clinic abortion and medication abortion, also known 0.69

00:05:26.980 as the abortion pill.

00:05:28.560 You can usually take the abortion pill during the first 11 weeks of pregnancy.

00:05:32.400 If you're more than 11 weeks pregnant, ask your nurse or doctor about in-clinic abortion.

00:05:39.500 When you use the abortion pill, you actually take two different medicines to end a pregnancy,

00:05:44.680 mifepristone and misoprostol.

00:05:46.360 First, you'll take mifepristone. Mifepristone works by blocking the hormone progesterone,

00:05:51.640 which stops your pregnancy from developing. Then you take the second medicine,

00:05:55.800 mysoprostol, either right away or up to two days later. This causes cramping and bleeding

00:06:01.160 that empties your uterus. The cramping and bleeding can last for several hours,

00:06:05.960 so plan ahead to make the process more comfortable. You can be at home or wherever

00:06:10.360 is comfortable for you to rest. Taking a hot shower, using a heating pad,

00:06:15.480 or taking ibuprofen or medicine from your nurse or doctor can help with cramps.

00:06:20.200 Your nurse or doctor will give you written instructions and a number you can call with

00:06:23.320 any questions. 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. For most people, the process takes about 5 hours,

00:06:31.080 but it may take up to 24 hours to be totally finished. The abortion pill process is very

00:06:36.120 similar to an early miscarriage. It's normal to have lots of cramping and bleeding and to pass

00:06:40.920 clots and tissue, like a really heavy period. You may also have an upset stomach, diarrhea,

00:06:46.920 dizziness, or a mild fever. You may be tired and have a little cramping for a day or two afterwards,

00:06:52.760 but you can go back to work or school the next day if you feel up to it. 0.99

00:06:55.560 work or school god damn planned parenthood may god damn plan i hate oh my gosh 1.00

00:07:07.360 yeah i know they're talking to teenage girls that is disgusting 0.99

00:07:12.520 sorry for ruining everyone's day all right so yeah thanks west no but you're right it's

00:07:20.860 we got it we need to be aware we need to see it i'm glad you showed it

00:07:23.980 Yeah. So abortion is still alive and well, there are still clinics in, in Texas, a lot of them act as travel agencies to get mothers to other states where they can legally murder their children.

00:07:41.000 um and uh and you know obviously there's a lot of stories uh if any of you have been through a

00:07:47.820 miscarriage or um had a loved one that went through a miscarriage it is a traumatic thing

00:07:53.840 um and so they that video kind of makes it sound like yeah it's just kind of routine it's like a

00:07:59.720 heavy period um it's a it's a traumatic emotional thing it's a traumatic physical thing it can be

00:08:05.880 dangerous at times um and uh and to be flipping about it like that really um puts puts women at

00:08:13.620 risk yeah so the estimates from texas this is the thing with the law like imagine you're trying to

00:08:19.860 shut down shut down gentlemen's clubs and you said there should be no entrance to a gentleman's club

00:08:24.660 through a door facing the highway and they should install the side doors well that law even as good

00:08:29.360 as it would be to shut down things like that if you don't actually have a mechanism in place to

00:08:33.760 shut down all the means of doing it the way sin works is someone just says oh well i'm not allowed

00:08:38.080 to enter through the front but there's a side entrance right here there's a survey and it was

00:08:42.540 something like 97 of texas women when they were asked like would you seek another means if abortion

00:08:47.580 was illegal they said yes it is not until you close every avenue through the use of the law

00:08:53.200 through the state protecting the unborn that you actually achieve the culture of life that we talk

00:08:58.480 about do you actually achieve truly zero abortions happening on texas soil so the estimates are this

00:09:04.880 is from a journal of american medical association it's about 20 000 women annually that will use

00:09:09.900 this pill right here in texas to murder their child we're not talking about a dozen we're not

00:09:14.600 talking about maybe a couple hundred 20 000 plus if not more as our population grows and then

00:09:20.860 another that's the smaller of the two numbers another 35 40 50 000 annually travel out of state

00:09:26.900 so they're going to new mexico they're going to arizona they're going to colorado and there's

00:09:31.020 groups there will even fund them they'll fund them to take the flight they'll fund them to take off

00:09:34.800 work and everything like that so the point is abortion is far from finished we've made progress

00:09:40.940 by god's grace but you have to finish it all the way you have to go all the way fully shut down

00:09:45.980 evil not just say like you can do it but only on tuesdays it has to be completely done and the way

00:09:51.220 to do that is through the law yeah over the over my my lifetime we've seen the overton window for

00:09:57.660 abortion on the left move from we want it to be safe legal and rare to anywhere anytime for any 0.99

00:10:05.180 reason um and and so the you know the the pro-choice position is her body her choice she

00:10:13.060 can do whatever she wants uh the pro-life position has generally been um it's it's her body 1.00

00:10:20.340 but we don't want her to make this choice. 0.97

00:10:23.280 So we're going to try to eliminate all of the avenues for her to make that choice.

00:10:29.300 And if anybody else kills the baby, we're going to call it murder.

00:10:33.120 And that's just not an intellectually or legally consistent, honest position.

00:10:41.580 And so I've come to this kind of realization over time, later than I'm sure you guys have.

00:10:51.180 But just over the past few years, just really struggled.

00:10:54.560 And really, with the passing of Dobbs in 22, is that right?

00:11:00.840 22.

00:11:03.000 Really started looking at, okay, well, you know, is the Republican pro-life orthodoxy correct?

00:11:10.760 and uh and really it's it's just not um if texas has long said that if you murder a pregnant woman

00:11:19.880 we're going to call it a double homicide because we recognize the personhood of the child um we

00:11:25.300 have recently said uh if you're a doctor and you participate in an abortion uh that's you know

00:11:31.480 that's not allowed anymore um but yet we still say a self-managed abortion is not a it's it's

00:11:39.720 not categorized as anything within our law. It's just a complete and total carve out, which,

00:11:46.800 which sends mixed, inconsistent, dishonest messages to the people of Texas. And as a

00:11:55.960 lawmaker, it's our job to set the law. The law teaches people what is right and what is wrong.

00:12:04.480 it acts as a deterrent to people who still want to do the wrong thing but are afraid of the punishment

00:12:10.860 and then ultimately it provides justice for those that blow through the first two stop signs

00:12:16.660 and so you know when when I tell my kids my three-year-old who's in the street don't run

00:12:23.300 in the street if you do it again I'm going to spank you it's not because I want to spank the

00:12:27.720 child I never I never want to spank the child but what I don't want is for the child to get hit by

00:12:33.480 by a car driving by and so i i teach him this is wrong this is out of bounds i warn him if if you

00:12:41.000 do this there are consequences and then ultimately i provide consequences uh to to serve as a deterrent

00:12:46.220 in the future and and a notice to the other children that i really do mean business right

00:12:50.780 so no that's well said i i like how you you laid out like three different um you know uses of the

00:12:57.440 law that uh that one it's um it's the the pedological function of the law that it's a

00:13:03.120 tutor that it actually shapes the populace as a whole even those who would never even plan on

00:13:08.420 getting an abortion right or you know like here's an example people who don't personally plan on

00:13:13.140 getting an abortion half the population men right um turns out even in the year of our lord 2025

00:13:18.740 men despite you know some people's opinions do not get pregnant um and you know but it's still

00:13:24.380 even for men it shapes uh the law is a tutor and it shapes and sharpens the conscience even for the

00:13:30.960 unbeliever it's not just for christians but even the unbeliever um and so the majority of people

00:13:36.380 when i think of like the the majority populace they're going to be tutored by the law of god

00:13:41.400 and then secondly uh like what you said was um that it's also a restraint so even those who

00:13:48.220 their conscience won't be sharpened because their conscience for whatever reason is already too far

00:13:53.520 seared rather than sharpened uh well then the law of god functions as a shield it's a restraint

00:13:59.300 there are plenty of people who um who hate god and hate their fellow man um but still don't make

00:14:07.860 certain choices because the one thing that they don't hate is themselves and they don't want to

00:14:12.680 go to jail you know and like it actually restrains people it works as an inhibition this this impending

00:14:18.660 threat of punishment of retribution for uh for crime and then and then lastly um uh what i'm

00:14:28.040 sorry i just blinked but what was the last there was a justice and then so for those who do cross

00:14:32.220 the line uh justice and then that one kind of filters all the way back in because when when

00:14:36.200 justice is displayed you know i think of uh i believe it's deuteronomy that says when justice

00:14:40.820 is uh delayed um that that wickedness ramps up within a society but when there's justice it's

00:14:46.780 proportional um it's swift it's uh and you know it's it's blind it's impartial right so it doesn't

00:14:53.120 play favoritism but impartial swift proportional meaning eye for eye tooth for tooth um it's not

00:14:59.000 slap on the wrist for for a life uh and and it's also not too heavy it's not i'm taking your life

00:15:04.340 because you uh you know uh shared a facebook post that was uh outside you know it was wrong think 0.80

00:15:10.540 um you know like great britain um you know we're arresting we're arresting you you know the the 1.00

00:15:16.900 the horde of muslims that are coming in and raping your wives and daughters that one will 1.00

00:15:22.720 will let slide but you just posted something about it on facebook and so you're going to 1.00

00:15:26.660 right so you can be unproportional disproportional in both directions you can over punish you can

00:15:31.800 under punish um but but that too filters back in that last function um that shapes the populace

00:15:38.500 but when the people see it's not just the punishment of the one but it's the lesson for

00:15:43.380 the many that the people see whoa this really is serious and so all those things are are so vital

00:15:48.840 but but back to that first one the last thing i'll say is in terms of the law being having that

00:15:53.840 teaching function that's why consistency matters so much not just for the purpose of justice which

00:15:59.520 is in its own right vital that we're not that we don't have unequal weights and measures so we want

00:16:06.360 to be just. But beyond just the matter of justice, if that wasn't enough in itself, which it is,

00:16:11.900 in terms of tutoring the population and for you being responsible for citizens, residents in

00:16:20.200 Texas, when you would punish, not you personally, but when the civil magistrate would punish in

00:16:27.780 texas um the abortion doctor but not the woman who's getting an abortion herself um that that

00:16:36.740 says something that teaches something really what it teaches is it teaches that um that it's

00:16:41.920 inappropriate or it's um it's it's wicked or it's a crime um for medical professionals to uh to

00:16:50.340 practice to have this as a part of their practice um but but the killing of the child in and of

00:16:56.840 itself is not really the killing of a child it also reinforces another thing that it teaches in

00:17:02.020 the wrong direction is it reinforces i've said several times but it reinforces um the common

00:17:08.080 notion that that most people won't necessarily say out loud but it is the reigning dogma i think

00:17:13.680 of our culture today which is that uh women don't sin women can't really do anything wrong so it's

00:17:20.540 wrong when that abortion doctor you know when he does it as a profession he's getting paid for it

00:17:25.840 And he's racking up, you know, abortions by the hundreds.

00:17:29.000 But, you know, but that woman, when she makes that choice and she gets a pill that's mailed to her, you know, and she doesn't have anybody helping it.

00:17:37.300 She does it all on her own. 1.00

00:17:39.020 Well, we can't really say that's wrong because that would insinuate that that women sin. 1.00

00:17:45.840 We can't have that. 0.99

00:17:46.580 And so the shortest way that I've ever articulated it that always makes people upset is I said, America has two choices. 0.64

00:17:53.840 We can worship women or save babies, but you can't do both. 0.93

00:17:59.160 And America, for quite a while now, at least half a century, has opted for worshiping women. 0.80

00:18:04.620 And personally, as a pastor, I think that the vast majority of the church has made that choice as well.

00:18:11.080 Yeah, and if we can talk about men, I think to this point as well,

00:18:15.100 um if you have if you have a society where abortion is off the table it requires some

00:18:22.980 responsibility of the men yeah um it used to be that if a man and a woman um had sex and got and

00:18:32.680 got uh pregnant there's a wedding that's right um because the man had to take responsibility now

00:18:38.560 the law teaches the man if she just takes care of it i don't have to worry about it right 1.00

00:18:44.860 that's what the law currently says. And so you have this perverse incentive for a man to,

00:18:51.560 um, to try to convince a woman to kill his child. And if she does it all alone in Texas,

00:18:59.040 without any help from anybody else, it's totally fine. Um, she may not even want to,

00:19:04.920 she may have that maternal instinct that says, I want to do this. I think I can do this. Um,

00:19:10.720 but he's saying, not only am I not going to help you, but he's saying, I'm going to leave you and

00:19:14.720 go find someone else or i'm gonna do whatever because he knows he'll have to help her legally

00:19:18.800 he will have to help he'll have to help her that's right and so yeah and so it it creates this this

00:19:24.500 perverse thing if it is illegal for the mother to kill her own baby then it is also illegal now

00:19:31.000 for the man to coerce her into murdering her own baby yep anybody it could be a parent it could be

00:19:38.220 a mother a father whoever yeah yeah all parties involved should bear uh the they should bear the

00:19:45.400 uh the responsibility for that decision and certainly there are many cases where um it's

00:19:50.200 not just an individual woman in isolation making that decision by herself right but it does seem

00:19:56.140 like that's the one person that even relatively good guys who would agree with us for the most

00:20:03.360 part on the issue of life and those that seems to be the the one person that they're least likely

00:20:08.200 to indict as having any moral guilt whatsoever is the woman i was going to say too the nice the

00:20:14.800 neat thing about a law if you have it on the books and you enforce it for a while do you know how

00:20:19.080 often you're having to enforce it right like we had sodomy laws here in this country for probably

00:20:23.320 close to i michael you did the research a while ago 150 years about that long was the state just

00:20:28.460 on the daily just like committing raids surveilling that many actually yeah it wasn't at all yeah the

00:20:34.160 law was there it said this is wrong this should not be engaged in the people saw it they were

00:20:38.460 shaped by it and then you didn't almost have to have any enforcement of it same thing if you like

00:20:42.780 you spank your child he's three he's four don't touch don't do over time there's not even any

00:20:48.040 spanking left you're not six seven eight years old you have to come back in like well spanked

00:20:52.420 you three times for this today for the last three months no you you apply the law you enforce it

00:20:57.180 that's that's the important part of it but you apply and enforce it and then as time goes on

00:21:01.060 as the populace is shaped you're not running around having to enforce it anymore you can shape

00:21:05.820 a people over decades and centuries to such where that's just the law they abide by because again

00:21:10.320 it's been enforced it's taught and trained them so don't think of this as like man in perpetuity

00:21:15.280 we would just have to be enforcing this and updating it and sending out task force not at all

00:21:21.020 in time would be something that wouldn't even have to be worried about probably when cromwell

00:21:24.840 came into power in england um they made adultery a capital crime there's no record that anyone has

00:21:32.720 ever executed for committing adultery but historically that is by far those couple of

00:21:39.500 decades the lowest out of wedlock birth period in all of england's history i bet yeah well

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00:23:40.580 all right welcome back brent take it from here yeah um so earlier this week i've filed a house

00:24:00.020 bill 2197 in the texas house um and it is a very simple bill it just eliminates the exceptions

00:24:07.820 in Texas law in the penal code and also there's a place in the civil code as

00:24:14.820 well that that and the primary exception that it deletes is just the one that

00:24:20.600 says this chapter does not apply to the mother killing her own unborn child and

00:24:25.700 so it's it's it was kind of shocking to find that that was in there on the books

00:24:33.380 like we're gonna we're gonna clearly define homicide we're gonna clearly

00:24:37.100 defined personhood. And then we're just going to say, this

00:24:39.620 doesn't apply to the mother. So we, the bill removes that it

00:24:44.480 also clarifies that this doesn't, we're not talking about

00:24:49.340 life saving procedures that are taken to save the life of the

00:24:52.760 mother as long as you're not intentionally killing the child

00:24:57.020 and you're and you're taking normal medical precautions. A

00:25:00.380 lot of people ask have asked about that, you know, what

00:25:02.900 about ectopic pregnancies? What about these extremely rare

00:25:06.980 situations where a woman's life really is at risk and um if the woman's life really is at risk then

00:25:12.900 we're going to try to save the woman but we're not going to try to harm the child right um

00:25:18.120 just to interject there too sorry it came up in the rfk hearings one of the senators asked him

00:25:22.680 you know imagine a scenario where they've got the crib all set up and the woman comes in

00:25:26.780 and it's the unthinkable happened he's like i don't want the government in there there is no

00:25:30.900 scenario post 20 weeks where abortion is the medically necessary procedure to save the life

00:25:36.640 of the mother you deliver the child i mean children have survived now in the early 20s

00:25:41.280 right we had a family in our church the baby was born at 29 weeks yeah there is none no zero

00:25:46.380 scenario at 32 weeks or 34 or 30 where you have to take that baby apart to somehow save the mother

00:25:53.640 right you deliver the baby exactly those and save them that woman needs to birth the baby she doesn't

00:25:58.340 need to kill the baby right if in birthing the baby the baby dies that's completely ethically

00:26:03.500 different than we intentionally were trying to rip the baby that's exactly right exactly and i mean 0.93

00:26:08.320 there are there are sad stories everywhere there's the there's the woman that gets cancer and she

00:26:12.580 needs uh chemotherapy but the chemotherapy will harm them and and and there you're dealing with

00:26:17.420 the triage situation and and um we're we're not talking about life life-saving things we're also

00:26:23.220 not talking about spontaneous miscarriages um there there's misinformation out about existing

00:26:29.540 Texas law and other states saying that that doctors are not allowed to help a woman who has

00:26:34.640 who has had a spontaneous miscarriage and that's not currently true in Texas law it's not currently

00:26:41.600 true in any state it's a lie of the left but we are clarifying that as well to say that yes the

00:26:49.040 doctor can perform procedures necessary to remove an already deceased baby and that's just that's

00:26:58.500 health care. But it's a simple bill. I've been extremely encouraged. There's been a lot of hard

00:27:05.640 work by a lot of folks over the last few years, educating legislators and people throughout Texas,

00:27:13.520 myself included on this issue. And, and having just filed it on Wednesday, and we haven't even

00:27:21.980 been at the Capitol on Thursday and Friday, but I already have close to 20 co-authors

00:27:27.640 and, and really expect that I'll get quite a few more. The reception has been very good. And I have

00:27:34.520 not been at all bashful about what the bill does. I don't want anyone to sign on and then say, oh,

00:27:44.700 well, I didn't understand what you're trying to do. I've walked through this same, the law as a

00:27:50.380 Tudor, the law is a deterrent, the law is justice with lawmakers throughout the Capitol.

00:27:56.700 And I'm very encouraged and think we're going to, I mean, we already have more co-authors

00:28:01.380 than we've ever had on this bill before in Texas.

00:28:04.760 And I think we're just getting started.

00:28:07.460 Yeah.

00:28:07.980 If you live in Texas, so you're a listener, you live here in Texas, maybe you live in

00:28:12.260 Brent's district, but if you would go to, and maybe it'll be here down on your screen,

00:28:16.620 but you can just search, find my representative.

00:28:18.880 there's 150 representatives in the house and call them and ask for their support for them to sign on

00:28:24.360 as a co-author for them to support this bill if they're in the committee that it gets assigned to

00:28:29.580 you need to be understanding the local dynamics of your state contacting representative because

00:28:34.940 that's how i mean i think of uh alcohol abolition the prohibition the prohibition like we had in

00:28:43.960 the united states a movement that went so quick and so powerfully that it got enacted into the

00:28:48.480 constitution the prohibition of alcoholic beverages and then there was so much backlash a couple years

00:28:52.600 later that it got taken off right but the point is your elected representatives like they feel

00:28:56.780 the heat when their constituents say please sir support this bill please ma'am support this bill

00:29:02.320 again and again and again the phone the email so if you live in texas house bill 2167

00:29:08.480 2197 equal protection of the unborn call your representative just search and find your

00:29:14.680 representative, that'd be a huge help in, by God's grace, getting this passed. Yeah. I'm curious

00:29:19.980 if the bill that's been introduced, is it in addition to, or how does it differ from

00:29:28.480 the civil penalties enacted with some of the heartbeat laws? Like, is it in addition to

00:29:36.480 kind of weaker pro-life legislation, or is it just a removing from the legal code of murder

00:29:44.180 uh the definition of what a murder is or like how would this if this were to pass how would this

00:29:49.840 actually kind of look in in practice sure texas has it's kind of interestingly has kind of a

00:29:56.400 layered approach and when we when we have cranked it down more we haven't removed the previous

00:30:01.560 layers um so we have a heartbeat bill actually this and then after that we had the trigger bill

00:30:07.380 that said at any point of development but we didn't get rid of the heartbeat bill the trigger

00:30:12.120 bill was a civil penalty okay um but the civil penalty applies to anyone except the mother

00:30:19.200 we also have homicide uh that that applies to anyone except the mother so we're removing both

00:30:25.120 of the except the mother um exceptions to that uh to uh to clarify so the civil penalty will still

00:30:32.460 be there but they're now in and post jobs um there shouldn't be any legal uh constitutional

00:30:40.140 concerns with uh just making a criminal punishment for abortion okay wow what would you say to you

00:30:48.660 know people who uh would would levy the counter of like um do you see what they're trying to do

00:30:56.060 they're trying to pass this bill and then they're going to go and round up every you know every

00:30:59.680 person who's ever had an abortion for the last 50 years right like what would you say well first of

00:31:05.580 all um that's explicitly unconstitutional um you cannot create a law to punish past conduct

00:31:12.220 but just in case we went ahead and put that in house bill 2197 that says this only applies

00:31:18.540 uh to conduct that occurs after the effective date of this doesn't apply to anything previously

00:31:25.500 you can't real quick you can't establish a law to punish this past conduct but if you're the

00:31:31.420 president of the united states can you offer a pardon that would excuse any and all past

00:31:37.920 yeah uh man i would say that's an open question i i certainly have thoughts on that um like if

00:31:44.800 you have just a young boy for example a young boy you know in his 50s who's done a little bit of

00:31:50.520 cocaine in the white house you know yeah right sorry yeah no um so yeah that little tyke i think

00:31:57.220 there are people in the Republican pro-life world that are concerned about that. The number of women 0.79

00:32:05.520 who have had abortions over the last 50 years is staggering. The number of people in our churches

00:32:12.360 who have had abortions is staggering. It's tragic. It's wicked. And so my heart breaks for that.

00:32:23.380 But what I would say to that is, if you're counseling with a post-abortive woman, the only relief that she's ever going to find from the torment that she is going through is to take it to the foot of the cross, confess your sins, he is faithful and just to forgive you of your sins and cleanse you from all unrighteousness.

00:32:47.520 And so, uh, we were telling her, well, it's not your fault. Um, you were pressured. You didn't

00:32:54.700 have a choice. Those, that is a weak salve on a deep, deep wound. And, uh, and if we truly love

00:33:03.140 these women, we need to say what has happened to you and what you have done in the past,

00:33:08.540 the choices that you have made, um, you have to take them to the cross. That's the only place 0.99

00:33:13.200 that you're going to find, um, redemption, uh, for that. Well said. Yeah. The law of God,

00:33:20.480 you know, everything that we've established thus far, that it's, you know, the pedological

00:33:23.840 function that it's a tutor that shapes and sharpens the conscience of the people that

00:33:28.360 it also works as a shield and a restraint. It holds back. Uh, it's the law doesn't change the

00:33:33.180 heart. Um, but the law does restrain outward manifestations of evil that would stem from an

00:33:38.760 evil heart. So the evil heart remains unless the gospel actually converts the individual

00:33:43.000 but uh the evil heart would remain but that person society is protected because that evil

00:33:48.420 heart is restrained and not acting in terms of outward manifestations actions of evil

00:33:52.860 and that person even if they're never saved um jesus says that you know that not all sins are

00:33:58.480 equal he even says that you know to one will be given a light beating to another will be given

00:34:02.480 a more severe beating so you're even sparing the reprobate who we don't know we don't have

00:34:07.680 election goggles we don't know who god's going to save that's not our business but even if that

00:34:10.900 person turns out not to um to ever come to faith in jesus christ um it's even a mercy and a kindness

00:34:17.560 to them because you restrain them from doing outwardly as much evil as they uh could have

00:34:22.520 and would have done uh so that their punishment even in the eternity is lesser than it would

00:34:28.380 have been and so there's even a grace uh in that sense and then of course you know uh enacting

00:34:33.220 justice um and so all those things that we've already said but another the gospel you know

00:34:38.420 function of the law and the way that the law is not the gospel is distinct from the gospel

00:34:42.940 but the way that the law works in tandem with the gospel is that you know the way that i've

00:34:48.460 always preached as a pastor is that if we minimize the law of god you know one of the things that it

00:34:53.900 does in the first use within the reformed tradition the first use of the law of god is

00:34:57.480 it functions as as a mirror it the law is holy because god is holy so god god doesn't have a

00:35:04.160 standard outside of himself and god is god because he lives up to it now the law is merely a reflection

00:35:10.960 and an extension of god's own thrice holy triune nature so the law is perfectly holy because god

00:35:18.240 is perfectly holy it simply reflects to us his own divine essence and nature who he is

00:35:24.020 and so when the law is rightly preached and and legislated by the civil magistrate within a

00:35:31.720 society, basically what you're doing for the people under your care is you're presenting

00:35:37.240 accurately God. You're saying this is who God is. And by saying accurately, in line with the

00:35:43.840 scripture, who God really is by actually legislating God's real law, you're showing

00:35:50.300 them who God is. And then what happens is by virtue or by way of consequence of revealing

00:35:55.920 to the people this is who god is and he's holy holy holy um by way of consequence that the

00:36:02.600 reflection that they see of themselves as they stare into the holiness of god it functions as

00:36:07.340 a mirror and and causes them to see back to themselves and see by by comparison their lack

00:36:13.300 of holiness their sinfulness and and so when the law is is rightly preached in the church but also

00:36:19.920 rightly legislated by the civil magistrate it reveals god rightly and when we reveal god rightly

00:36:25.980 it reveals by way of consequence man rightly so we have now a more biblical accurate anthropology

00:36:32.680 not just theology but anthropology we actually can can view ourselves rightly by by comparison

00:36:39.360 to god's holiness seeing our sinfulness and the final thing is that that then shows us much more

00:36:45.220 accurately how infinite, how infinitely wide the chasm really is between sinful men and a thrice

00:36:52.940 holy God, which means all the way back to now the gospel, which means that then when the gospel is

00:36:58.660 preached, that it's being properly placed in the context of the, like, you know, the illustration

00:37:05.540 has been used before, that the gospel is like a diamond, a multifaceted diamond, and it shines

00:37:10.820 most brightly like you go into you know buy a ring for you know you're getting engaged

00:37:14.860 and they're they're gonna have that they're gonna have diamonds usually uh set on the backdrop of a

00:37:22.400 black velvet you know something that's going to show um a a stark contrast so that the brilliance

00:37:30.640 so it doesn't detract at all from the brilliance of the diamond and and the gospel like that diamond

00:37:38.640 shines most brilliantly when it's set on the proper context the the the backdrop of the black

00:37:47.020 velvet sin of humanity and so when the law is rightly preached and and right in the church and

00:37:54.360 rightly legislated by the state then you're rightly seeing the character and nature of god

00:37:59.540 in his holiness by way of consequence you see your sinfulness and by seeing your sinfulness

00:38:05.120 now when good news is preached the mercy and kindness and grace and forgiveness of god

00:38:11.140 on on in the within the context of me actually needing that as a sinner um then the gospel

00:38:17.980 becomes good news and today there's so many people when when you say i mean it's it's it's

00:38:24.260 scandalous but like when you when you tell the average person today uh god loves you um they

00:38:31.300 don't always verbatim say this but often you can you can even see it in their eyes that that the um

00:38:36.920 the unspoken response for many people is uh it's not shock and awe and surprise and being

00:38:43.700 overwhelmed that god would have mercy on them that he would love them even though he's holy

00:38:47.760 and they're sinful no the average response from people today when you say god loves you

00:38:52.580 the average response is will he be he'd be crazy not to right yeah of course he loves me who wouldn't

00:39:00.460 yeah you know like like god would actually be out of line to do anything but love me um because

00:39:07.460 there's just this assumption that the love of god is somehow um the default setting because it's

00:39:14.080 merited by the person that i actually deserve the love of god and and so the love of god doesn't uh

00:39:20.200 doesn't wow and surprise people um unless it's seen not merely as love it's nothing less but to

00:39:27.280 be a little bit more particular. It is love, but it's a particular kind of love. It's grace,

00:39:34.660 unmerited love, undeserved love. The gospel is not just love. The Bible says that angels even

00:39:43.720 long to look into these things, that they're bewildered and perplexed and curious about

00:39:50.080 these things, and in that context, these things being the gospel, how a holy God could have mercy

00:39:55.020 towards sinners and the reason why angels long to look in what that implicates is that angels are

00:40:01.700 outside of the gospel merely as spectators not recipients they're looking in as spectators

00:40:07.660 and they're wowed and amazed that that this thrice holy god could have mercy on on his image bearing

00:40:15.260 creatures who chose in defiance deliberately to raise their fists in rebellion against him so my

00:40:21.540 point is um does god love the angels perfectly god has uh god has perfectly loved every single

00:40:29.200 angel since the beginning of their creation for for thousands of years um and yet he's never had

00:40:38.900 grace towards angels right a third give or take of the angels rebelled against him no uh no chance

00:40:46.800 of redemption the other two-thirds have all only ever been faithful so no need for redemption so

00:40:53.080 one you know the fallen angels um no redemption offered the other angels um no redemption

00:41:00.120 necessary um and yet god loves them so angels know love but when we speak of the gospel we're

00:41:06.580 not merely speaking of god's how god relates to angels because god loves angels god loves himself

00:41:13.180 perfectly the father loves the son the son loves the father um but but what we're talking about

00:41:19.920 when we speak of the gospel is not merely love nevertheless but it is more than merely love it is

00:41:26.400 a particular kind of love unmerited love undeserved love it is grace and and that's what overwhelms

00:41:34.320 the hearts of men if the spirit would be so kind in his sovereignty to give us spiritual eyes to

00:41:39.940 see in spiritual ears to hear that good news but it's not shocking wowing overwhelming good news

00:41:47.780 if it's just love and not grace and it'll never be heard and received as grace if there's no

00:41:54.940 understanding of the need for grace and that doesn't come unless i see myself as a sinner

00:42:00.820 and i don't see myself as sinner as a sinner unless i see god as so much vastly more holy

00:42:07.500 than i am by seeing his holy law accurately preached and the very last thing i'll say is

00:42:12.560 charles spurgeon said it like this a man will never appreciate the beauty of christ unless he

00:42:17.100 first come to see the need for christ and so that's what the law does and people all the time

00:42:22.440 evangelicals because they've been brainwashed and and so poorly taught by the church on this and by

00:42:28.380 the civil magistrate failing in his duty so both the state and the church has so failed um the

00:42:34.220 average um professing christian today that um that they that you you'll regularly hear the refrain

00:42:42.540 anytime the law is even spoken up you you hear like the the um almost like um automatic response

00:42:49.460 and i'm not talking from pagans but from people in the church the automatic response is well that's

00:42:54.320 law um i just just tell me about the gospel i'd like um you know uh you know we're not under law

00:43:01.880 we're under grace and say if there is no law there is no need for grace um we preach law

00:43:08.760 because um because it makes grace all the sweeter that's not the only reason but that is one of the

00:43:15.260 reformed historic purposes and uses of the law of god is that it is not the gospel law and gospel

00:43:23.160 are distinct law gospel distinction but the law makes the gospel sweet and um and so you are

00:43:30.300 robbing that woman uh it's not that you're beating her up by having just laws regarding abortion

00:43:36.340 you're actually damning her and condemning her and robbing um virtually every opportunity for

00:43:44.100 her to receive the the salvation that's found in jesus christ alone because you're telling her

00:43:50.200 she doesn't need it yeah absolutely yeah that'll preach that'll pretty well i think you just did

00:43:57.080 yeah yeah there you go um okay let's uh well wes any are there you're a chart guy he's got

00:44:05.560 i got stories i got a little bit more several people have asked about ivf okay so do you want

00:44:11.060 me to kind of hit on that um so this bill is is not a quote an ivf bill um but it does deal with

00:44:19.500 um destruction of human life and and say we don't allow for the destruction of human life and so

00:44:25.640 Where IVF, to me, is about the creation, the storage, and the implantation of an embryo, and that is all still legal under my bill.

00:44:42.680 What's not legal is the destruction of, you know, human life.

00:44:49.280 And so that, you know, several people I've noticed asked about that.

00:44:54.420 so in regards to fertilized eggs they would have to be used so yeah right now right now in texas

00:45:01.940 i don't know about used i would say that if they're if they're destroyed um right now in texas

00:45:08.740 there is um like i said we have just we have defined personhood as being from conception

00:45:15.460 which is the fertilization so anything right so fertilization and that has always been the case

00:45:21.620 i'm not changing the law that i want to say always been the case but that has been the case

00:45:25.620 for a long time in texas that we have defined life that way um and so once you define life

00:45:31.780 that way well murder is the taking of life and so all i all all my bill does is say once life

00:45:38.660 is created there's no exceptions that allow you to destroy that life um and so um where where

00:45:46.180 medicine can um can uh go through an ivf process or some other process that is not the needless

00:45:54.580 destruction of human life um this bill does not address that um but well then to me and this may

00:46:01.980 upset some um people dear brothers and sisters in christ that i would appreciate um but to me i would

00:46:11.740 say uh that's a great bill and uh and then you also probably need another one yeah um because

00:46:18.380 and the only reason i would say that is um because although it doesn't allow for the destruction of

00:46:23.340 the fertilized egg which we believe is a human being made in the image of god from the point of

00:46:27.420 conception um what could happen if i'm hearing you correctly is that um that zygote uh is simply

00:46:35.920 never used and we know um scientifically that eventually it's subject to decay and um even if

00:46:43.360 nobody intentionally destroys it it would it's kind of like uh almost like like you know the the

00:46:48.840 idea of um well you you can't kill you know botched abortion if it does if it's not successful aka you

00:46:55.580 didn't murder the child you know with your first attempt um well you can't murder you don't get a

00:47:00.780 second try but what you can do is you can put it on that stainless steel table and walk away

00:47:06.300 knowing that the inevitable result is that the child will die without um attention so you're not

00:47:13.440 you're not harming the child but you're also not helping the child and you know by not helping the

00:47:18.900 child that the child will in fact die and and so for me with ivf and this is something that i you

00:47:25.140 know i came to uh later as well i i wasn't like 15 years old you know and preaching against ipf like

00:47:31.600 i didn't you know i didn't even know what it was but over time seeing that you know at least two

00:47:36.100 problems one if uh if the zygote if these fertilized eggs aren't used um that the only

00:47:41.280 other option is that they will eventually decay and be destroyed and then trying to get some kind

00:47:46.520 of theological language around that and the only thing that um i could really liken it to

00:47:52.040 is um in some senses incarceration without fair trial that um by by virtue of being stored like

00:48:01.020 you mentioned storage that you know put away um it's like this is this is a living person

00:48:07.360 um being you know put away uh for no crime that they've committed and no promise uh that they'll

00:48:16.160 ever be let out in fact it's being put away with a very real possibility that uh we're going to put

00:48:21.840 you in jail without a trial without a crime having been committed and a very good chance that you

00:48:29.280 will die in jail and so what you're talking about there is is IVF as it currently is okay um and so

00:48:36.900 uh if uh and I hear where you're coming from I'm I'm sympathetic to that what I'm what I'm saying

00:48:42.860 is um I don't want to with this bill directly take on the the IVF issue and that's why I started the

00:48:51.180 way that I did. I like the bill. Go for it. You would have my full support. And that's why I

00:48:55.500 phrased it. I framed it saying, and it sounds like we probably need another one.

00:48:59.800 And, you know, we always need to find ways to better conform the law to God's intent for

00:49:08.700 mankind as he slowly puts all things under his feet, hopefully starting here in Texas and moving

00:49:14.860 outward um and so uh that that's great um you know it's a to me the fact that we have um you

00:49:24.560 know thousands tens of thousands of uh abortions by pill uh and other means uh in texas right now

00:49:33.880 um willful destruction of human life um is is um is something that that we have to address as a state

00:49:44.860 um and and need to address it in a hurry right and there's a difference too between a board of

00:49:51.080 procedure that always ever every single time is successful ends life versus it is entirely like

00:49:57.380 the reason we do batches of 20 25 30 eggs is because it's expensive and we want to get as

00:50:02.400 many as possible to successfully implant but theoretically it is possible to only bring one

00:50:06.660 to two together so it would be a single or twins and that could actually bring life which would be

00:50:11.040 good it would be a human life it would be made in the image of god it'd be a blessing to couples

00:50:15.060 that were unable to conceive so we're talking about two different categories that have to then

00:50:18.280 be legislated differently the murder every single time versus a process we have to do in such a way

00:50:24.040 we don't freeze our neighbors yeah right i know i know people who have gone with ivf and have said

00:50:30.280 i only want this many eggs and i want them all implanted people like that um and i know people

00:50:36.040 as well who have adopted snowflake babies through through ivf um so there there is a way to um

00:50:45.240 uh and i know there's people in their audience maybe here that wish that that procedure didn't

00:50:50.640 exist um but there are ways through through that procedure that do not necessarily end a human life

00:50:56.460 um and uh and those would all be protected uh still yeah cool well let's uh let's go to our

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00:54:16.680 All right.

00:54:17.940 Well, for this last segment, I went online

00:54:20.580 because one of the things we've been talking about abortion for years,

00:54:23.580 by God's grace, I think all of us have been against it

00:54:26.120 and praying for the end of it.

00:54:27.300 I can remember being like eight years old in a Baptist church

00:54:29.980 just on Wednesday night prayer meeting,

00:54:31.880 praying for God to end the slaughter of children.

00:54:34.340 And one of the things that when you think about bills like this

00:54:38.340 is it can be easy to think of the scenario,

00:54:40.340 the police and the law and the courts you say how could that be loving how that doesn't seem

00:54:47.260 caring i i get the unborn piece but what about the mother and so i'm going to read i i've seen

00:54:52.260 hundreds of these over the years i'm not about to read to you the only three stories that could

00:54:57.220 possibly be found on the internet there are thousands and thousands of women that will live

00:55:02.320 the rest of their life with extreme regret over what they did and it's going to haunt them every 0.99

00:55:08.460 single day, even if saved, even if the gospel comes in and applies forgiveness, you're a heroin

00:55:13.460 addict up until 80 years old and you were saved by God's grace, you will still bear the marks of

00:55:18.020 that in your body. And so I'm going to read these stories and I just want you to be thinking about

00:55:21.720 how that law, if it was just made a standard that nobody could murder their child, how all of this

00:55:27.520 pain, all of this regret, not even talking about the child in this case, but the mother, how it

00:55:32.240 could have been avoided and so i'm going to share this first one here um this is this is from three

00:55:38.800 months ago this is on reddit drowning in regret for my choice and i don't know how to move on and

00:55:43.880 find community this is going to be on your screen i'm not going to spend 15 minutes reading through

00:55:48.020 all these but i'm going to read the highlights i got my abortion two weeks ago and i am feeling

00:55:52.380 the deepest sadness i have ever felt even walking into the clinic i couldn't do it i sat in the

00:55:57.820 waiting room and cried for an hour before I could work up the courage to pick up the pen

00:56:01.860 and begin filling out the paperwork. My mind has been unable to rest since. This is another one.

00:56:10.200 This is from a woman who said, I didn't have a dad growing up and felt like I didn't want that

00:56:13.900 for my child, but there are some nights I feel such regret and anguish over terminating my

00:56:17.560 pregnancy. I wish I could have met my baby. It's to the point when I hear about abortion or see my

00:56:21.840 nieces and nephews, I feel horrible. I feel empty. I wonder if I'd have my baby if I try harder in

00:56:27.120 life to make things better for them. I miss something I never got to know and don't know

00:56:30.720 what to do. What do I do? And then, I regret my abortion. Input, please. It happened when I was

00:56:37.680 20. I wish I would have thought about it more, to be honest. I wish I could have talked more

00:56:41.760 people with different perspectives now. I wish I would have been made to think about how it would

00:56:46.960 affect me so long down the line. I have several friends now that are successful in academics and

00:56:51.460 work that had children at 20, and their lives aren't destroyed. Far from it. We're in the same

00:56:56.040 place in life but they have loving children well i have well not and these are just three of

00:57:02.720 thousands and thousands of women so this is reddit like was it hard to find these are there

00:57:07.180 are there forums for like where people are talking about this on reddit yeah so it's a it's a this is

00:57:12.680 just the abortion subreddit i just searched the word regret and found all of them and these are

00:57:16.280 the ones that people were willing to put online women are as online as men and um these bills

00:57:22.780 are loving to these women it's loving to the child it's loving to the women it's a more most

00:57:28.120 importantly it's the right things and the right thing in god's eyes to do these are the categories

00:57:32.800 as you defend as you push if you're a lawmaker as you file you need to be thinking god's law

00:57:37.720 when it says thou shalt not murder is not unkind it doesn't set women up for failure and career

00:57:42.500 spiraling it sets all of us up for success and for flourishing well said all right let's try to

00:57:49.580 get to some of the questions uh nathan if you can go ahead and put those over on the side here we go

00:57:54.880 uh we're going to start with uh jeff halfley good old jeff god bless him the most faithful

00:58:00.420 super chat commenter slash questioner of all time single-handedly funding right response

00:58:06.560 all right here we go jeff halfley we appreciate you he says how can we help elect more state reps

00:58:13.160 to support this bill today a rhino slash dim coalition controls the texas house we want to

00:58:21.100 help um uh great the great he puts in quotations we want to help great replace them amen what do

00:58:28.720 you think now this is my jam right here um i will tell you um when uh and and some of you have noted

00:58:35.500 this and i said i'm i'm new to the abolition type movement although i've been you know grew up in

00:58:41.220 church been pro-life my whole life um and early on when i started running uh some some abolitionists

00:58:48.360 came came to me and just started gently and and knowledgeably talking me through it and this is

00:58:55.360 about two years ago or so um they came and knocked doors with me and we went to lunch and breakfast

00:59:01.220 and they talked with me and talked with me and we worked through all of these things and um you know

00:59:06.080 I started where I think a lot of my colleagues in the Texas House are, which is, yeah, that's great, and I see it, and that's right, but it's not politically viable.

00:59:16.120 And just worked through God giving me the boldness to handle it.

00:59:23.120 And so I would say to you, find people that already are your state reps right now.

00:59:31.340 We're a year or so from the next election cycle, and just start talking with them. 1.00

00:59:35.280 If there are candidates who have already announced that they're running against some of these rhinos, start talking with them. 1.00

00:59:42.920 There's a great organization called Abolish Abortion Texas that does a lot of direct contact. 1.00

00:59:51.200 They're having a rally at the Texas Capitol for this bill on February 19th.

00:59:57.280 So we'll have a rally there on the South Steps.

00:59:59.680 And then they will go and talk with legislators already in the building about supporting this bill.

01:00:05.280 You can donate. I tell people all the time, you have no idea how hard it is to start a campaign. But if you have a church with, let's say, 100 families, and they each put $25 aside each month, then you can raise $30,000 in one year.

01:00:25.280 and that's a great start to a campaign um just 25 a month per family um and so there's you know

01:00:34.520 money prayer just but most of his boots on the ground politics is a and government is run by

01:00:40.400 the people who show up so show up and knock doors for people who who agree with you um and uh and

01:00:47.120 and talk with the people that you don't and have grace that god may be working on them at a different

01:00:53.140 pace than he worked on you. And I really appreciate people in my life that did that.

01:00:59.360 And they didn't expect me to be there right now or else cut me off, but just continue that

01:01:05.520 conversation, opening the word of God, talking through, and then giving me some space to pray

01:01:10.540 about it and come back. And so that would be my admonition plea to you is to engage in these

01:01:21.980 conversations but come at it with with humility and boldness at the same time well said um this

01:01:29.220 is a great point from mb east uh another super chat we appreciate that thank you mb east says

01:01:36.340 let's look into maha make america healthy again to address infertility of americans wouldn't you

01:01:43.920 think that this would decrease the need for IVF IVF should be abolished by the way and so I think

01:01:53.380 that that's personally I think that's a great point I think that so it's not just that oh well

01:01:58.960 you know our technology our technology has become more advanced and yes but also I think we need to

01:02:05.660 be honest and say that the perceived need has exponentially increased from times past. So it's

01:02:16.320 not just like, well, we're capable technologically of performing a procedure that previously we

01:02:21.280 didn't. And so that's why it's an ethical issue that we have to parse out today. And it's not

01:02:25.260 something that we have to figure out in the 1950s. Yeah, I'm with you. I think that practically

01:02:29.700 um that that argument has merit and that's true that seems to be undeniable but there's also some

01:02:35.960 other things that have developed since the 1950s and it's not just medical technology the other

01:02:40.200 thing that's developed is rampant demonic feminism i'll just throw that one out there um part of the 1.00

01:02:46.380 reason that a bunch of people want to do ivf is because women aren't ready to have kids until 1.00

01:02:51.420 they're 35 years old 40 years old um because you know they they were wearing the pantsuit as boss 0.98

01:02:57.820 babes you know for the first uh 20 years of having a fertile womb and and aren't ready to settle down 1.00

01:03:04.460 and be a mom until it's too late and so there's there's a ton of freezing their eggs for decades 0.99

01:03:09.480 they start their career and say i'm gonna have these on ice for 15 years right that's eggs

01:03:13.460 different from embryos but like just 15 years and so so one uh you know that's not exactly what was

01:03:19.820 in the comment from mb east but uh but i think it's both so one it's maha make america healthy

01:03:24.660 again um how how many women we we don't even know but like how many women are infertile because of

01:03:31.000 uh red you know red dye and because of you know what there's all these and the disruptors food

01:03:36.560 yeah all these yeah and her hormonal birth control yes sir yeah um yeah but i think i think a lot of

01:03:45.160 it is just man uh you know i got married when i was 21 um you know there my my wife was 20 she had

01:03:52.360 a lot of fertility in front of her. And, and so we're, I think as a society, and you talk about

01:03:59.320 the law as being a tutor, motherhood is awesome. Like, I mean, how, how in the world can people

01:04:05.060 think that motherhood is not the highest and best use for women? What is, what is more precious

01:04:12.400 than training and raising up godly young people.

01:04:19.020 And so I just admire and appreciate my wife so much for what she has done.

01:04:26.520 I can't imagine what she could have accomplished in a corporate world

01:04:30.260 that would even compare to what she has given me with five children

01:04:35.700 who love the Lord and who respect their parents

01:04:39.140 and who are, God willing, going to be responsible members of society.

01:04:45.220 And so we need to praise that.

01:04:48.140 And I want to say this too, it goes back to the basic of the bill.

01:04:51.540 I'm sorry, it's not a lot about Maha, we've addressed that.

01:04:54.180 But I think even pagan people recognize how precious a mother's bond to her child is.

01:05:03.960 and when you think about murder how many murders occur in austin every day that nobody ever hears

01:05:10.760 about but if a father murders his child that's going to be on the news probably for a few days

01:05:17.280 if a mother murders her child that's national news so we because instinctively we know that

01:05:24.720 is disordered it goes completely against nature the person who is most supposed to take care of

01:05:34.280 that child um has done something that is unthinkable um and yet as a society we say as

01:05:41.900 long as you do it pre coming out of the birth canal nothing um but but i think that that that

01:05:48.960 illustrates that even in our, even, even the darkness of our hearts, we know it should not

01:05:55.620 be this way. Right. I want to jump on that real quick too. Um, the other angle here is that

01:06:01.740 fertility treatment and IVF, um, generates a lot of money. It's very expensive. And my wife is a

01:06:08.900 functional nurse practitioner, and she has helped a number of women just through getting them

01:06:15.080 healthy be able to become pregnant who were told by the medical establishment well the only option

01:06:21.960 is for you to spend this 10 20 30 50 000 on this fertility treatment and you know it's not a

01:06:29.060 guarantee of course some some women are barren um but the the point is well taken by the commenter

01:06:34.760 um the the picture is is not as in some ways it's worse in some ways it's better

01:06:44.460 um than then we would think and and a big part of what we're about on this podcast and even this

01:06:51.660 episode is trying to establish a natural order right where women are healthy women are getting

01:06:57.180 or attempting to get pregnant with their husbands in their prime fertility years and where this the

01:07:03.480 society around them is promoting and encouraging and supporting that rather than working against

01:07:07.840 it at every turn yeah it's you know like abortion you said it well brent but it's it's one of those

01:07:14.180 sense that uh that goes against nature right um and even you know like a lot of uh a lot of guys

01:07:20.920 who are against abortion who i appreciate and i've said this too you know that it's um abortion is

01:07:26.020 molek worship you know it's worshiping a false god you know and giving your children to the fire 0.64

01:07:30.560 to this false god you know that's been around for thousands of years uh molek you know that 0.96

01:07:35.760 people would you know hand there'd be this fire and its arms extended you know and fathers and

01:07:41.740 mothers would you know would offer their children to be burned alive and to uh to die but

01:07:47.040 it's i don't want to let americans off the hook i'd like to um further indict americans in a sense 0.98

01:07:54.760 it's not really molek worship i'm not saying that molek is not a a real demon fallen selfishness

01:08:01.060 right yeah so when people worshiped molek historically um even then as heinous as it

01:08:08.040 was of course it was a sin i'm not saying and so it wasn't sinful back in the day um it was a sin 0.80

01:08:12.940 when when a family would give their their child to the demon god molek um to be burned in the fire

01:08:21.620 but they did it uh because and this is the part that people miss they would do it in order to get

01:08:28.340 some kind of return and sometimes it would it would be something like um more fruitful crops

01:08:33.600 you know and uh material blessings or protection from their enemies but often what it was most

01:08:39.820 related to commonly was i'm going to offer one child to molek so that molek will give me 10

01:08:45.520 children in return so so it's when you think it went that to me really puts into perspective so

01:08:52.340 it's like the the molek worshipers who who would commit human sacrifice of their own child right 0.98

01:08:59.180 Not just their enemies, but their own child, right? 1.00

01:09:01.760 So a sin that is contrary to nature.

01:09:04.680 All sin is contrary to God's law, but not all sin is contrary to nature.

01:09:08.960 This is both contrary to the law of God and special revelation, his commandments, but

01:09:12.960 also to natural law.

01:09:14.460 It goes against nature. 0.99

01:09:15.640 But even in that sense, back in the day, you know, pagan people worshiping the God of Molech, 0.96

01:09:22.060 even that, it was against nature because it's human sacrifice, a mother offering her own 0.93

01:09:27.160 child that she's been uh in entrusted and appointed by god to nurture and to love but even there there

01:09:33.260 was still a a somewhat right natural instinct of course it was sin it was murder all those things

01:09:39.860 stand but uh what i mean is that that it was often performed um so that they would have in the same

01:09:46.660 way that you think of hannah who said made a vow to her god her god happened to be the triune god

01:09:52.460 the true God, who is far more benevolent and merciful, but she said she was barren for a very

01:09:57.420 long time, and she makes this promise outside of the temple. She's weeping, and Eli, the priest,

01:10:03.080 thinks that she's drunk because she's so distraught and heartbroken because she wants children. She

01:10:08.480 has a good natural instinct, an eternal instinct, the way that God designed women to be. She wants 1.00

01:10:13.760 to be a mother, and she promises God, if you give me just one child, I'll give the first one to you. 0.97

01:10:19.380 i'll give the first one to you if you give me open my womb and get and allow me to have the rest

01:10:24.960 now she that first child that she gave to her god the true god the triune god wasn't uh given to um

01:10:31.600 to flames to be consumed but rather given to the house of the lord to be a prophet and to speak

01:10:36.760 and that was samuel um but that's what people that's what pagans were doing back in the day

01:10:41.500 it was kind of like the the other side of the coin the reverse you know um upside down world

01:10:47.340 version of hannah hannah's i'll give you the first if you give me more she says that to the

01:10:52.660 triune god and giving to the triune god meant um devoting samuel to worship god in the temple

01:10:58.680 um to to serve before the lord as a prophet but but with molek worship it was we'll give you our 0.93

01:11:05.280 first child uh to be put to death today though in the west um women are not saying uh we'll give 0.92

01:11:13.420 our first child to Molech, to modern Molech, Planned Parenthood, so that you'll give me 10 0.74

01:11:19.060 children in return. It's not I'll give a child to get more. It's I'll give a child because I want

01:11:24.220 none. I want none. And so it's not all sins are equal. All sin is sin, but murder is a greater

01:11:34.360 sin than other sins. Murder of your own offspring is an even greater sin. That's not just a fit of

01:11:41.760 passion, you know, a crime of passion, you know, anger, second degree murder. But murder of your

01:11:47.300 own posterity is a sin that is not only against the law of God, but against nature. And that's

01:11:53.080 been committed for, you know, centuries. Again, see my point about Molech worship. But today, 1.00

01:11:59.680 it's even more unnatural. It's not, I'll give you one child so that you give me more. It's,

01:12:04.980 I'll give you this child and the next child and the next child, not because I want more,

01:12:08.820 but because i want none and um and that doesn't change um the law can prohibit that but but but

01:12:17.860 we the reason we need just laws and we also need um we need good pastors and good churches and good

01:12:24.840 media and good at every and and good uh um professors in academia at every realm of society

01:12:31.100 we need to um to re-instruct re-disciple and reshape uh the people of our nation to uh to

01:12:38.520 make children great again um to to make motherhood great again um that people would see motherhood

01:12:47.040 as what you're saying as as this noble uh profession you know the hand that rocks the

01:12:52.320 cradle rules the world like that they would see it as noble as as desirable that they would see

01:12:57.680 children as a blessing from the lord rather than a burden and you do that by good laws you do that

01:13:02.900 by good preaching but you also let's just let's be honest you also do that by not exasperating

01:13:08.660 your citizens you want you want the the populace of these united states not to see children as a

01:13:14.580 burden okay one of the ways you do that is not just law and not just preaching in the church but

01:13:20.280 also through economics right now children are never a burden let god be true and every man

01:13:26.520 though every man a liar so god's word says that children are a heritage from the lord they're a

01:13:30.020 blessing psalm 127 and that remains true whether you're living in a difficult context or an easy

01:13:35.040 context it doesn't matter god's word is still true but you can make children who are inherently a

01:13:40.140 blessing uh sometimes in certain certain contexts they can feel burdensome and you can release the

01:13:45.980 feeling of that burdensome they're objectively definitively a blessing but the the subjective

01:13:51.600 feeling of of children especially multiple children being burdensome that's something

01:13:56.820 that you can change and you can change that by um by by taxation lowering taxes you can change that

01:14:03.680 by um not giving away all your jobs to foreigners you can change that by like mass deportations

01:14:11.580 uh lowering taxes um you you know like for every child you have you pay 25 less taxes you have four

01:14:18.920 kids you don't pay any taxes at all these are ways of tutoring shaping the people through

01:14:24.700 legislation not just punishing evil but also praising the good romans 13 there's both sides

01:14:30.580 of the equation coming so we're going to actually punish murder but we're also going to esteem

01:14:36.420 um blessed is the man whose quiver is full and that woman we're going to put a wreath around her

01:14:41.320 neck and and she's going to be in a public parade and we're going to honor her and they're going to

01:14:44.880 have zero taxes because they have four more kids um these would be wonderful christian policies

01:14:50.720 amen amen all right any anything else one other super chat so we at least have okay let's where

01:14:57.780 is it let's find it very top very top okay so sage d um i know what you're referencing i saw this

01:15:03.700 earlier i appreciate you putting this on here and i want to honor uh your time in doing this thank

01:15:07.960 you for your generosity he says howdy pastor joel looking forward to your collab collaboration with

01:15:13.780 my homie glenn lawrence he introduced me to your work uh because you're one of the few pastors

01:15:19.320 who preaches for mask uh masculinity and against feminism so uh thank you sage d for uh that

01:15:26.600 encouragement and also uh to glenn lawrence for uh giving a good uh reference for me uh to answer

01:15:32.940 your question though real quick with that um so uh glenn has reached out to me i'm not super

01:15:38.700 familiar with uh glenn's work he seems like a nice guy he's always been kind to me i know that

01:15:42.860 He professes Christ as Lord, and so I have no reason not to believe that he's a Christian.

01:15:46.800 But I haven't really looked into his work. 1.00

01:15:48.480 I know he's been pretty involved in the red pill movement, which I would agree with a 1.00

01:15:53.800 lot of their natural instinct.

01:15:55.120 I would disagree where I think they take it too far, and the red pill movement is not

01:16:02.400 inherently a Christian movement.

01:16:04.020 In many ways, it is very non-Christian, but that doesn't say anything about Glenn personally.

01:16:08.920 So I would just have to be more familiar with his work.

01:16:10.840 And I'll say this, the specific thing that he recently asked me to do was in regards to a debate with guys in the red pill movement who advocate for polygamy. And so I politely told him, no, not because I'm inherently against debating and certainly not because I'm for polygamy. I believe polygamy is wrong.

01:16:32.760 um but here's the thing that guys just don't realize uh debates um every time you say yes to 0.97

01:16:39.000 a debate um essentially you need to walk uh say yes right you send back that text message and say

01:16:45.580 yes i'll do the debate and then you immediately need to walk into the living room and look your

01:16:49.660 wife and children in the eyes and say you will be without a father for the next month yeah that's

01:16:54.240 that's like seriously i uh what's uh wes huff uh huff yeah you know like everybody after he you

01:17:00.080 know had uh like a more informal it wasn't uh uh timed and stuff but with uh what's that guy's name

01:17:04.980 the black guy who's who's billy carson yeah billy carson right so they had and then everybody you

01:17:09.800 know came out of the woodwork and was like debate me bro debate me bro and i thought he had a really

01:17:13.780 good little response that he just he just shot impromptu five minute little response and i saw

01:17:18.180 it floating around on the interweb where he said and he was respectful he was like guys i'm like

01:17:22.860 it's not that i don't think um that uh that you merit a debate or or that i don't think you're

01:17:28.300 intellectual or this but it's also not that i'm afraid or i'm scared or my position can't stand

01:17:33.480 on its own two legs um you just you have to understand um debates are incredibly incredibly

01:17:40.120 demanding on your time you can't just uh you can't just walk into the room and just kind of ad lib

01:17:46.780 you know i'm your huckleberry you know doc holiday style shoot from the hip that's just that's so

01:17:51.400 anyway so all that being said uh sage d thank you for the encouragement tell glenn uh your friend

01:17:56.340 thank you for his encouragement and uh that he's uh tuning people into our show that means the

01:18:01.680 world um i i'm not super familiar with his work but he's always been kind towards me i appreciate

01:18:06.520 that uh and but in terms of uh collaborating with him i would be open uh to to something like that

01:18:13.200 in the future uh but at this season of my life right now with five uh very very young children

01:18:19.060 i'm i'm not really itching to hop into any debates anytime soon so uh was it one more nathan

01:18:25.280 very bottom okay uh let me guess it's gonna be ivf yep so this is a super chat i'll let

01:18:33.620 brent handle this one so do you want to read it yeah sure everything you'd have to do to make ivf

01:18:38.560 ethical would make it no longer effective why not just ban it outright um well because that's not

01:18:46.060 what the goal of my uh bill is uh right now i would like to make uh equal protection under the

01:18:52.560 law so that all murder is illegal in the state of texas um and so let's criminalize murder first

01:18:59.580 make sure that that uh each child um whether born or unborn um they're all created in the image of

01:19:08.040 god and oh and should be entitled to equal protection under the laws of the state of texas

01:19:13.720 and the united states um and uh and as far as ivf we've kind of talked about it a little bit

01:19:19.760 Um, but, um, you know, to the extent that it can be done without destroying human life,

01:19:25.220 uh, and I believe that it can, um, I mean, we, we're about to go to Mars, right?

01:19:30.380 I mean, uh, we, we've, uh, uh, there's a lot of things that we can do.

01:19:34.640 Um, I think that let's, let's focus on, um, that issue a different day.

01:19:40.880 Well said.

01:19:41.820 Uh, so that was going to be it, but our very own Jeff Halfley, bottom of the ninth, he

01:19:46.540 hopped in here with a ten dollar super chat and i mean who am i to refuse that i must i must

01:19:53.180 oblige uh he's he's making a statement but i i think it's relatively good and and i'll i'll let

01:19:58.040 you um uh comment on this west because i think you've thought about some of these things he says

01:20:03.780 ideas for pro-family policies uh basic credit of six thousand dollars per child plus homemaker

01:20:10.540 credit of 6 000 per child for families where one parent is the primary stay-at-home caregiver

01:20:16.840 for uh the children and i i would just say change that to um uh where the mother you know it's more

01:20:24.040 more specified yeah no no stay-at-home dads uh but no it actually has to be the mom west any

01:20:30.940 thoughts on what he said it's a good instinct i like it it's tough because a lot of western

01:20:35.040 countries their birth rates are plummeting and uh different countries i think hungary is one of the

01:20:39.420 ones that have bucked the trend but there really is not explicitly christian in their uh constitution

01:20:45.940 yes um and and you look at uh you look at the immigration the mass immigration that we are

01:20:51.440 receiving underlying it all is our low birth rate and uh if it wasn't for our plummeting birth rate

01:20:58.160 but we have this corporate interest in making sure we still have consumers and workers um that

01:21:04.600 because we cannot feed the pipeline having 1.7 children each right yep well i was gonna say uh

01:21:10.700 so you have that policy i i like it it's a good one it's the state rewarding that which is good

01:21:15.240 but you do have to be careful because uh you could be giving that to i mean the birth rate in inner

01:21:20.080 city baltimore is probably pretty high and all you're incentivizing there is a type of wedlock

01:21:24.220 situation where the state is just handing out money so so that type of policy would have to

01:21:28.700 be married in some way to to productivity so he mentioned like a caregiver bonus and united states

01:21:33.680 we've done something like this it's called the child tax credit it was three thousand dollars

01:21:37.220 during covid came down to fifteen hundred now i think those are good laws but what they're going

01:21:41.580 to be part of is a holistic return back to a people that have a high trust society people

01:21:46.380 that are flourishing economically that have borders that are secure it is those things in

01:21:50.660 tandem with economic advantages that are going to turn the needle amen if it's a non-refundable

01:21:56.380 credit and boy i didn't know we were going to get into tax policy because i'm not i don't know a lot

01:22:00.560 about but if it's a non-refundable credit then it just goes toward the taxes that you owe it doesn't

01:22:05.640 become a handout to people who don't pay taxes that could be a way to address that issue what

01:22:11.700 you said brent the only thing i was going to add to that in terms of immigration um and all the

01:22:15.920 ramifications of that is i i think it's um instead of you know a one-way stream it's more of a two-way

01:22:21.520 street a chicken it's like chicken or the egg and i think the answer is both it's um part of what uh

01:22:27.300 what has made immigration appealing is the low birth rate.

01:22:30.380 And I would also say that part of what has incentivized the low birth rate is

01:22:34.860 immigration, that it works both ways, that through immigration, you have, you 0.81

01:22:39.960 know, the third world being imported in mass to these United States who are 0.61

01:22:44.600 willing to work jobs for half the wages. 1.00

01:22:48.720 And so through that, and I would add feminism as well, women entering the 1.00

01:22:53.560 workforce uh force in mass that it becomes not just exceptions like rosie the riveter which 1.00

01:22:59.840 first wave feminism i don't like that one either but um but but now where it's commonplace it's 1.00

01:23:05.620 it's kind of the assumption that like uh that women would why isn't your wife working you know 1.00

01:23:10.040 you uh you don't feel like you have enough for a household income well what what gave you the 0.52

01:23:14.160 audacity to think that a single income would be you know why isn't your wife joining you in the

01:23:18.380 workforce she should be working too so my my point is i think um the low birth rate incentivizes um

01:23:25.020 a lot of corporations and our political elite to open up the floodgates for immigration but

01:23:30.240 likewise immigration i think has been a major cause in uh causing the birth rate to plummet 1.00

01:23:35.840 because through immigration um as well as feminism both of those what it's done is it's uh it's taken 1.00

01:23:41.380 away um uh single income jobs that can actually provide for a family right um the feminism said 1.00

01:23:49.140 uh to employers you know if you ever wanted who likes feminism women right nope um uh CEOs like 0.98

01:23:55.860 they don't want it actually they're there and they're like I wish I could stay home with my kids 1.00

01:23:59.440 right they're stuck on a home in a mortgage that's right yeah the women who like feminism 1.00

01:24:02.920 are um 22 year old uh girls at college you know what I mean but like but grown women or women in 1.00

01:24:10.460 their 50s and 60s who have missed who never had yeah exactly who bought the lie and now they have

01:24:14.840 to keep justifying consoling their mind so that they can sleep at night i made a great decision

01:24:19.120 it was great that i wore a three-piece suit my whole life and never had kids you know and like

01:24:23.120 vance has a term for that you know the single cat ladies that's what he called him um and and so

01:24:30.120 anyways so yeah but but for the most part it's it's not just women it's men that really embrace 0.97

01:24:35.620 feminism primarily uh employers because it was a way of them getting twice the workforce for um 0.99

01:24:42.440 for half the wage well the same wage yeah the same way exactly yeah double double their bang 1.00

01:24:47.760 for buck and um and so i think feminism and then also immigration has done uh both of those have 1.00

01:24:53.560 been two of the major factors in driving down wages um to where to where you you can't it's

01:25:01.340 very rare to be able to have a a single income for a household and as long as people feel like

01:25:08.220 they can't do that if if families um husbands you know and and wives feel like we can't um if we

01:25:15.020 have kids someone else has to raise them right financially because we just can't do it as long

01:25:21.040 as that happens you're going to continue to see the birth rate plummet so all right that's got

01:25:25.980 to be it for today jeff halfley just keeps on going but we've got to we've got to go ahead

01:25:30.680 he said create a holiday name it family day a tv show american family awards there you go yeah

01:25:37.460 uh last thing he said families with three or more children would qualify for a government-backed

01:25:43.560 low interest home loan yep lots of great ideas appreciate you guys uh for tuning in and we will

01:25:49.760 see you lord willing on monday and uh brent thank you so much for your time thanks for having me

01:25:54.260 appreciate it

01:25:55.120 Yeah.

The NXR Podcast - January 31, 2025

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