The NXR Podcast - THE LIVESTREAM - Candace Owens Brings Receipts & Unanswered Questions About Charlie Kirk’s Death

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00:00:30 candace owens has brought receipts in regards to charlie kirk that's what we're going to be

00:00:38 addressing today but more than just that we're going to be addressing simply the narrative

00:00:42 surrounding charlie kirk his assassination who done it there are a ton of missing pieces

00:00:49 it's not just that a little bit of it seems fishy but pretty much all of it seems fishy now

00:00:54 as a disclaimer i will say this it does absolutely matter who actually pulled the trigger

00:00:58 It matters on multiple accounts. Number one, it matters in the sight of God. Number two,

00:01:03 it matters in the sense of doing our best here temporally on earth to model justice as God would

00:01:10 see fit, right? We don't want to condemn someone who's innocent, and we also don't want someone

00:01:15 who's guilty to get away. So it matters who killed Charlie Kirk. But there's a lot of other things

00:01:20 that matter too. If it doesn't end up being Tyler Robinson, who has yet, as of now, to actually

00:01:27 confess to the crime, if it doesn't end up being Tyler Robinson, who was a gay man who had a 0.68

00:01:32 boyfriend who was transitioning into a gay furry, guess what? You can still say transgenderism is 0.81

00:01:40 absolutely terrible, and we have enough school shootings in Christian and Catholic schools by 0.96

00:01:46 transgenders to label transgender ideology and Antifa and all the other far left-wing 0.86

00:01:54 organizations, associations as terrorist groups to kingdom come, and we can crack down on them, 0.93

00:02:01 right? So we're not going to try to get off the rails and say, hey, we've got the left against

00:02:06 the ropes, and then you guys, the autists, come in and start cooking and getting weird, and we 0.70

00:02:13 lose a macro moment to simply push back on the Democrats and the leftists, LMNOP, you know, 0.93

00:02:21 all that kind of stuff. We want to do that. But in God's providence, we have sufficient evidence,

00:02:28 we have more than sufficient evidence to condemn the left, to condemn Democrats, to condemn all

00:02:34 forms of sexual perversion till the end of time, whether Tyler Robinson was Charlie Kirk's killer

00:02:41 or not. On the flip side, we are not going, just again, another disclaimer, we are not going to

00:02:47 assert today that Bibi Netanyahu himself personally was 400 yards away on top of a tower and that he

00:02:54 pulled the trigger and killed Charlie Kirk, right? That is not our position. But it does matter who

00:03:00 literally pulled the trigger. But it matters in many ways more who is ultimately behind this

00:03:09 tragedy, who is pulling not the trigger, but the strings. It's important for us to realize that,

00:03:17 Yes, Israel is a problem in terms of geopolitics. 0.96

00:03:21 Our relationship with America, with Israel, 0.97

00:03:23 claiming that they're our greatest ally, 1.00

00:03:25 that's a problem.

00:03:26 But here's the reality. 0.95

00:03:27 If we cut Israel off tomorrow, right? 0.91

00:03:29 And it would still be far too late. 1.00

00:03:31 We should have done that yesterday. 0.95

00:03:33 If we, America, cut Israel off as a political ally tomorrow 1.00

00:03:37 and we stopped giving them a dime of our taxes 0.90

00:03:39 and all those kinds of things,

00:03:40 the way that that translates down to you and I

00:03:42 as individual citizens of the United States of America

00:03:45 is maybe we save 100 bucks annually in our personal taxes. It's not just the Israeli 1.00

00:03:53 government. It's not just Bibi Netanyahu. He has his own wars that he's fighting, right? I really

00:03:58 don't think that he was personally involved. He's right now, well, they're trying to try him for

00:04:04 war crimes in Gaza, which I think he's guilty. I think that he needs to be tried. He needs to be

00:04:10 unseated. His own people in Israel are protesting. There were 30,000 Israelis protesting against their

00:04:16 own prime minister. There's plenty of things going on in terms of Israel's leadership, Israel's

00:04:22 government, or even Israel as the nation state. But what you and I have to realize, and I'll say

00:04:28 it as carefully as possible, I'm not trying to be hyperbolic. I'm not trying to merely be an

00:04:32 edgelord. It is important, imperative that we understand this concept. What we are struggling

00:04:38 with right now, what we're undergoing, is a civilizational war. It is a spiritual, cultural,

00:04:44 and political war, a battle for civilization. And that war is religious. It is Christ versus

00:04:51 everything else, Judaism, Islam, atheism, all these other things. It's a war for Christ, 0.95

00:04:59 a religious war, and there is also a racial component. I'm not trying to make it that.

00:05:06 it is that it's inescapable and what i mean by that is you can't just say oh you know i've seen

00:05:13 some of the memes where they say oh i've figured it out it's the globalist right oh no no no i'm

00:05:18 more enlightened it's the marxists no i'm even more enlightened it's the bolsheviks oh no it's um

00:05:22 it's israeli government no it's uh the nation state of israel and then the highest tier at a

00:05:29 certain point you have to just sit there and say no it's it's kind of jews uh sam altman

00:05:37 that's not israel it's a jewish billionaire in america who is actively right that guy's not just

00:05:45 costing you a hundred dollars annually in your taxes as an american citizen that guy is actively 0.89

00:05:50 making decisions that are corrupting your way of life and seeking to devour your children right

00:05:57 Right. It's it's what's what's his name with Oracle? Larry Ellison. Larry Ellison. Right. It's it's the it's Mark Zuckerberg. It's these kinds of individuals who are not actually Israel's government. They might have some kind of deal under the table. Who knows? I'm not going to speculate in that regard. But but the problem is it's not just Bibi Netanyahu. It's not just the Israeli government or Israeli intelligence or the nation state of Israel.

00:06:25 there are jews here in america who are powerful who are billionaires they were putting pressure

00:06:33 on charlie kirk this is undebatable at this point candace owens has now dropped the receipts and to

00:06:39 think that this has nothing to do with charlie's killing i think is naive i think it's naive that's

00:06:48 what we're going to flesh out in our episode today zeb is joining us as a special guest he's been

00:06:53 doing a lot of work and ballistics and all these different things on this topic of Charlie Kirk's

00:06:58 assassination. That's the show for today. Tune in now. All right, here we are. I want to go ahead

00:07:13 and just dive right in. Let's go ahead and show the screenshot. Let's start with that. Here's a

00:07:18 screenshot. This is from Candace Owens. Charlie Kirk is on here. I guess it looks like a signal

00:07:23 thread or something like that. Charlie Kirk says, just lost another huge Jewish donor,

00:07:28 2 million a year because we won't cancel Tucker, Tucker Carlson, speaking at one of their TPUSA

00:07:35 events. I'm thinking of inviting Candace just to tick them off. And then Charlie Kirk said,

00:07:42 Jewish donors play into all the stereotypes. I cannot and will not be bullied like this.

00:07:48 and then he says it's leaving me no choice but to leave the pro-israel cause i want to get zeb

00:07:56 thoughts but you guys have to remember among younger individuals uh there are a lot of people

00:08:00 they're not big fans of israel not pro-israel cause the single biggest name again among younger

00:08:06 people they're reaching a younger demographic the single biggest name prior to his death

00:08:11 was charlie kirk that's right and here's him saying and he was one of the only young guys

00:08:16 reaching a younger audience biggest and potentially only pro-israel yep pretty much everybody else

00:08:21 who has an audience of under 45 is very much whether they're left or right is anti-israel

00:08:27 so charlie was like one of the last influencers major influences with young people that was pro

00:08:33 israel and real quick i want to let you talk but i definitely want to invite uh zeb but real quick

00:08:37 just to collaborate this just to get it out right here in the open um from the beginning of the

00:08:41 episode and then we can break it down let's just collaborate this because candace dropped this

00:08:45 piece people were saying ah it's fate it's you know it's photoshopped whatever this isn't real

00:08:50 but then tp usa themselves they came out and validated can we play the quick clip

00:08:56 but i want to take the start of this show to address some of the things that have been going

00:09:02 around on public namely about a text a group text chain that has been made known uh and released

00:09:09 by Candace Owens. And I just want to address it head on because that was a text grab, a screen

00:09:17 grab that I had shared with people. So it is authentic. And I want to go into it because I

00:09:22 actually am really excited that the truth is out there. I first want to say the reason I didn't

00:09:27 share that screen grab publicly is because it was a private exchange. And I felt like it didn't

00:09:36 necessarily comport with things that were already public. I wanted to not betray my friend's trust

00:09:41 in that way. But I did share it with some people in government because it happened really quick.

00:09:46 It was, you know, it took 33 hours for authorities to get their suspect. And in that first, in those

00:09:53 first moments, we wanted no stone unturned. We wanted to leave nothing unturned. So I shared it

00:09:59 with a few people. Don't know where it went from there, apparently. But here we are. So

00:10:04 one of the reasons, Blake, that I'm glad to have this now public, it was not mine to share

00:10:11 publicly. But, you know, one of the criticisms we've been we've received is that we don't care.

00:10:17 We're not investigating every lead. We're not looking under every stone. And that somehow

00:10:21 we're just like, you know, sweeping things under the rug. And when I say that we want justice for

00:10:27 charlie more than anybody else i really mean it and no stone unturned i mean i don't know if you

00:10:32 want to chime in on that part alone but i have more to say yeah i so it's it has been so frustrating

00:10:38 to have people blow up about this and you know we've stated i've certainly stated publicly the

00:10:42 reason i haven't weighed in on things is i am an eyewitness to events and they've said don't

00:10:47 comment on things because anything you say can mess that up i don't want to mess up any trial

00:10:52 for the person who did this it's a thousand there you go all right we've got a special guest let's

00:10:59 bring him on zeb what do you think well thank you for having me first of all uh what do i think i

00:11:05 think i don't know what to think really i know that we've been lied to and that's kind of how

00:11:10 i've started all of this off with is uh the government is definitely lying to us on some

00:11:13 extent and most likely tpusa is too at this point and so uh i just want to reiterate the point that

00:11:19 you made really early on is that it doesn't matter who actually pulled the trigger in the in the big

00:11:24 scheme right uh in the in the smaller scheme of uh charlie kirk it definitely does and who was

00:11:29 behind it does matter but uh in this in this aspect of winning it definitely matter doesn't

00:11:33 matter who pulled the uh the trigger because at the end of the day um transgenderism that that

00:11:39 entire movement the entire lgbtq what movement is um is un-american i mean i would like to go 0.86

00:11:46 back to the Cold War and the Red Scare, second Red Scare with McCarthy and bring about a House

00:11:50 Un-American committee, right? We need to start labeling people un-American as terrorists, as

00:11:56 what they are, enemies of America. And so I'll follow them under that. But yeah, what do I think? 0.99

00:12:03 We're trying to work it out. We're trying to work with what little evidence that we've been given

00:12:07 from TPSA, from the federal government, from everyone. And they've already staked their

00:12:11 position which is which i think was a major issue when they were claiming that uh 30 alt 6 went

00:12:16 through charlie kirk's neck i mean that who believes that really well it did not go through

00:12:22 it got stuck in his neck and that's what's been so difficult about this whole um thing because

00:12:27 even i remember when that piece was was dropped on x uh and the way that the guy dropped he was

00:12:32 like i talked to the coroner you know or whatever and um and he said that uh that it's it's a

00:12:37 miracle that the muscles in Charlie Kirk's neck were so thick and so strong that this, you know,

00:12:45 36 bullet stopped midway in his neck. And so even the last moment of Charlie's life,

00:12:53 he was saving other people because that bullet would have gone through him and there was a host

00:12:57 of people behind him. And so how, I mean, honestly, like, how do you, how do you, when a guy's body,

00:13:03 because this was early on when a guy's body is still warm and his wife is on national television

00:13:08 in tears, right? Forgiving the killer. How do you come out and, and politely say, uh, bull crap?

00:13:17 Nope. Uh, nope. So, so none of us want to be disrespectful to Charlie. We all appreciate 0.99

00:13:22 Charlie. I want to say that from the outset. We all like, I'll, you know, I, I, I would be to

00:13:26 Charlie's right. Um, and so I would disagree with him on, on a few things, but I saw his trajectory.

00:13:31 I saw his effectiveness. That was the biggest thing. He was effective. There's plenty of guys

00:13:36 to his right, but sometimes guys who are further to the right, all they do is convince people to

00:13:42 be on the left by scaring them away. Charlie was effective. He was changing hearts, changing minds,

00:13:47 and he wasn't just a conservative political commentator. He was a Christian, and he preached

00:13:52 Christ, and he preached the gospel, and so none of us want to come out and disparage him,

00:13:59 especially right away all we really said about it was Charlie has an incredible legacy he was a

00:14:06 Christian martyr and I think those are the right things to say at the time but now it's been a

00:14:10 little bit I know it's still fresh I know it's still recent but it's it's been long enough at

00:14:15 least the man has been buried his you know they've been able to honor him with a memorial and all

00:14:19 these kinds of things and and you don't want to give too much time because you can give too much

00:14:23 time in the vein of respect, but then you lose the edge of interest. And then whoever actually

00:14:32 committed this atrocity gets away because the public loses interest. And so I look at that

00:14:38 and not trying to disparage Charlie at all, but I think I can say Charlie was a mountain of a man

00:14:43 and did incredible things for Jesus Christ. And I also don't think that he was Superman,

00:14:49 literally superman and that his his neck was saving lives behind him by stopping i would love

00:14:55 to have zeb expand on this because if they're lying here if it's kind of one of those things

00:14:59 like you catch someone dead to right in a lie everything else comes into question that's right

00:15:03 does that break it down like uh like the listener like you're a housewife you know you don't know

00:15:07 the first thing you know guns that there's numbers that come with it when you say hey uh his neck

00:15:12 stopped a 30-06 bullet how kind of extreme is that claim i mean i just go straight to thinking

00:15:19 he's wolverine right i mean we got we got metal adamantium bones over here um it's just not going

00:15:24 to happen right it'll go clean through a deer which is about a foot foot and a half of flesh

00:15:28 and the neck is a soft tissue and even if you want to call it the vertebrae stopped it you're

00:15:33 looking at i mean that's that's soft brittle bone by itself um and and then even even then if you

00:15:39 want to say that it turned inside of him i mean the 30-06 round moving it i don't know probably

00:15:43 2,500 feet per second, which is extremely fast, isn't just going to decide to take a 90 degree

00:15:49 turn downward. It just doesn't happen. The blowout would be catastrophic. All that energy

00:15:55 has to go somewhere, is the idea. Even if that did happen, unfortunately, I don't want to be

00:16:01 graphic, but this scene would look a lot different. If there was that much energy in that projectile

00:16:06 from a Mauser 30-06, that energy would have, just the assassination would not have looked

00:16:11 the same just for my credentials like i was in the military shot a number of these guns

00:16:15 i remember being on the range actually my uncle was shooting a 30-06 we all had our handguns and

00:16:20 he shot it without telling people to put on their headphones i remember uh it was my cousin's

00:16:24 grandfather was like whoa whoa whoa whoa you got to let people know before you shoot that thing

00:16:29 that thing is a cannon so to your point that energy is going somewhere you're telling us

00:16:35 that just went in and and said all right that's all folks that's it for the evening uh no that's

00:16:40 just that's not how this works yeah it's it's just it's laughable that's exactly what it is

00:16:45 and that's all ballistics is is is trying to uh make sense of energy transfer energy displacement

00:16:51 and so that's that's what i've been trying to do i don't i don't know how much further we can get

00:16:55 without additional footage um obviously tps usa has footage uvu has footage um the fbi is sitting

00:17:00 on all of that uh we're not going to get any of it until trial will we get a trial who knows

00:17:05 uh probably not um there's going to be another jfk we'll be sitting on it for 60 years uh maybe

00:17:10 maybe my grandkids might get some answers, but to that point, uh, that, that I don't think we're

00:17:15 going to get much more ballistics or, or video evidence of what actually happened there. I think,

00:17:19 I think the attention should turn to, to Joel's point is that, um, maybe we should look at a

00:17:25 little bit more of who is actually behind it. And that's, that's kind of where I want to transition

00:17:30 to. I think that enough time has passed. I mean, we're coming up on a month and two days. And so

00:17:34 I think enough time has passed that, that that respect has kind of, uh, played itself out the,

00:17:38 the uh well the morning for some of us has uh has played itself out you know we're looking at seven

00:17:44 days i i would uh for that aspect but but the uh respect has kind of played itself out so now i

00:17:49 think the uh the flashlight should be turned on um not just the ballistics not just the fbi coming

00:17:53 out and saying whatever they feel like saying obviously uh cash patel pam bondy across the

00:17:59 board but between all of the epstein files are on my desk 9-11 files mlk jfk files and now charlie

00:18:05 kirk it's like the incompetence at the top is is astounding i remember him telling uh sean ryan

00:18:12 he's like day one fbi we're turning the j edgar hoover building into a museum for the deep state

00:18:17 it's like it's just it's kind of laughable like do you understand what goes into this job

00:18:22 it literally seems like cash patel and pam bondy to a degree they don't he's getting dinner he

00:18:27 hears they capture someone oh we got him he tweets out oh we don't actually it's a it's a

00:18:32 podcaster-occupied government. And I say this all the time in that, you know, if we want to

00:18:36 podcaster-occupied government, I mean, give me a job, man. We can actually get something done.

00:18:41 But because, I mean, I think these people were scared of the deep state, obviously, to some

00:18:45 extent. Now, to what extent? Maybe there's a question there. I can't imagine that it's just

00:18:51 pure incompetence. You can't be that incompetent. But kind of to that point is that, you know, 0.98

00:18:58 We go from the photo shoot to phase one, or they're on my desk, to the photo shoot,

00:19:05 and there's nothing in the actual binders that are pushed out.

00:19:07 I mean, this is exactly what you're seeing with Charlie Kirk.

00:19:10 They're coming out and saying Tyler Robinson shot from the roof.

00:19:14 I don't think Tyler Robinson – there's no evidence of Tyler Robinson even being on campus.

00:19:17 The runner is way too fast to be where he is if he actually shot that round from that video on the roof.

00:19:27 Just inconsistencies like that that we're not going to get answers

00:19:30 until we get the CCTV footage.

00:19:31 Didn't they claim he broke down the rifle as well?

00:19:33 And this is an old rifle that is not just press a pin like an AR-15

00:19:36 and you can disassemble the thing in 15 seconds.

00:19:39 They're like, he disassembled the rifle, he made it all across this way,

00:19:42 and none of those pieces seem to fit?

00:19:45 Yeah, I mean, the timeline is absolutely insane.

00:19:49 Not only do we have Wolverine on the scene, we have Flash too.

00:19:52 So, I mean, we're building a full-fledged superhero Marvel movie or whatever, and it's insane.

00:20:00 But I don't know.

00:20:02 I don't know what to do with it without getting additional evidence.

00:20:06 And like you said, like the guy on the Charlie Kirk show, I can't remember his name, the bald one, he said he's a witness, and he was told by the FBI that he can't push anything.

00:20:16 So now you have witnesses that can't say anything on top of we're not getting additional footage.

00:20:20 on top of everything's just shut down across the board and nobody trusts the federal government

00:20:25 nobody trusts the fbi and and they want to claim transparency transparency i understand that we

00:20:29 have to get to trial i understand that uh or do we and but but at some point you have to kind of

00:20:36 restore something something at the federal government unless unless the goal itself is to

00:20:41 destroy it yeah this seems like one of the consequences you mentioned podcaster occupied

00:20:47 government. When information is decentralized, for better or for worse, Candace Owens has a 1.00

00:20:52 platform and she's able to bring information that people send to her. Obviously, she's someone that

00:20:56 if someone had information or something pertinent or something they could leak, they would send it

00:21:01 to her. But in a time like ours where everyone has a platform, everyone has a podcast, it's very

00:21:06 hard to maintain trust when you're not being transparent because a number of different

00:21:10 narratives can circle around. There's an old saying, the lie gets halfway across the world

00:21:15 before the truth even gets its boots on.

00:21:17 And so I'm not saying Candace Owens is lying.

00:21:19 She's said a number of different things.

00:21:21 But the point is, without the transparency

00:21:23 from the people that are literally charged with this,

00:21:25 that should have all the information,

00:21:27 that should have the evidence,

00:21:28 this is what's going to happen.

00:21:29 Well, I think it was so-and-so.

00:21:30 I think it was this.

00:21:31 And I think maybe it was the microphone on his lapel.

00:21:35 And it disintegrates trust across the board.

00:21:37 Because then you say, I can't trust this organization.

00:21:40 I can't trust my government.

00:21:41 There's been some disappointments there

00:21:43 in the last nine months.

00:21:44 I can't trust the FBI. I could maybe trust her. I could trust him. It's a mess. And then you have

00:21:51 a bunch of people, and they're lost. I don't know who to believe. I have this guy who I loved. I

00:21:57 have this guy who helped my parents turn conservative. I have this guy who's fighting

00:22:00 for Jesus. And I literally, I have no idea what's happening. And I can imagine something happens to

00:22:06 me. And would my death, or if someone attacked me, or something happened to me, would it be

00:22:11 handle with this same level of professionalism because that doesn't give me a lot of confidence

00:22:14 and then you basically have anarchy everyone's doing as they please because there's no real

00:22:20 accountability yep uh zeb i've got somebody in the chat that said uh zeb go into your um

00:22:26 go into the theory of uh hollywood squib can you explain that i'm just fascinated i have no idea

00:22:33 what that is but yeah so uh the squib theory i i think i don't think it can be fake uh we see we

00:22:40 see immediate reaction, not a typical reaction time. We have a lot of anomalies that if you were

00:22:48 trying to go squib theory, you wouldn't be able to feel. Squib theory basically means that they

00:22:53 have a blood packet in some form, maybe it's through a tube, maybe it's the packet itself,

00:22:57 and then it essentially explodes or squirts out, typically hidden beneath a shirt. Sometimes they

00:23:02 can hide it under the skin. They can put it on their skin and maybe put makeup on it, a little

00:23:07 bit of um a special effect not special effects but uh practical effects on top of it and try to

00:23:12 blend it in i don't the squib theory doesn't hold up especially given the footage from the side

00:23:17 where we can see actual movement in the rear uh in the rear of the occipital bone on the back of

00:23:22 the head which i claim is entry um and then and then exit out of the neck i just don't think

00:23:28 squib theory holds up right so when we're going through this we're trying to explain all of the

00:23:32 anomalies or everything that we see and whatever does that the best you trying to make sense of

00:23:38 this whatever does that the best is typically what we're going to run with and so that's what

00:23:42 I've been trying to do from the from the very beginning um kind of updating my position a

00:23:46 little bit is is that I think there are two shots I think there might be a little bit of something to

00:23:51 Jason with crowdsources theory um I need to flush that out a little bit more before I push it but

00:23:55 essentially uh I think my shot had to go through the tent right you can see tent pieces on some of

00:24:00 the uh fly up right after the shot right after their passes um you can see a little black thing

00:24:05 fall down from the top of the tent where it probably hit um and uh and i just don't think

00:24:11 you can make sense of it with a single round and so from there we have to say okay maybe

00:24:17 there was another shooter maybe if we're running some type of higher end hit situation then we

00:24:22 have two shooters which would be like a a triangulation um which is which is a tactic

00:24:27 that is used for sniping or really assassinations in general where you have multiple shooters at

00:24:33 different angles for our listener uh there was a couple this was probably about a week week and a

00:24:37 half ago there was some thought around the microphone that was actually on his lapel and

00:24:42 so the possibility i i think of israel and i think of massad uh with pagers how they actually put

00:24:47 explosives into pagers and carried out really we just got to be honest a pretty incredible

00:24:52 operation, I believe it was in Lebanon, killed dozens, crippled more than a couple hundred

00:24:58 individuals, again, by infiltrating the supply chain, getting in there, placing explosives in

00:25:02 the pagers, all one moment there ago. So I've seen circulated, and you probably have the info

00:25:06 to debunk. What about the idea that the actual lapel on his neck, that it discharged, it shot

00:25:13 up into the neck, that was what actually carried it out. The gunshot was kind of cover for what

00:25:17 really occurred there. What do you think of that theory? Yeah, I think the footage that they're

00:25:22 using for that i think there's one frame in there that has been manipulated we don't have original

00:25:26 we don't even have a full video without uh without it being heavily edited and so i think there's a

00:25:32 frame in there that is manipulated that video came out two weeks after um any any uh there was there

00:25:39 was no evidence of that video i guess it was but it was blurred and what we see is an unblurred

00:25:45 version and i think they manipulated a single frame in there even beyond that in the video

00:25:49 that they claim uh that the mic blew up you can see the mic go the direction of supposed explosion

00:25:55 and so when we say the ballistics uh we're looking at energy dispersion or transfer uh if if the shot

00:26:01 is going one way you would expect a recoil from the other direction and so that's just not what

00:26:05 you see uh with that happening you see the actual the movement of the mic towards his neck where in

00:26:11 it should go away from and then shoot whatever is moving um they claim the magnet is what pierced

00:26:16 him uh one it would have to go to the other side of the neck like it would have to go across the

00:26:20 neck um on top of the magnet is still there in the same in in the same video it's still attached

00:26:28 the mic is still attached to his shirt uh after the fact so i mean any kind of explosion would

00:26:32 definitely separate that i i think mike theory is probably probably the least like i mean i i mean

00:26:39 squib theory is pretty bad too but i think mike theory is pretty bad but um yeah it just doesn't

00:26:44 make sense of anything and that adds more inconsistencies uh but but to the point i mean

00:26:48 obviously i'm not saying it's not possible i'm just saying it doesn't make sense and that's

00:26:53 everything that we're trying to do here so no one is here we're saying so and so for sure did it it

00:26:57 was for sure the second shooter shooter you know the most seb and what you're doing and you're

00:27:01 being careful of saying hey what what uh what story what what series of events makes the most

00:27:08 sense out of all of these different factors make sense of the man that's running on the roof make

00:27:12 sense of the weapon makes sense of the projectile and the energy and all of that that's what we're

00:27:17 trying to do here the jewish boomer who the moment he saw someone on the right was assassinated

00:27:23 he instinctively right and people like oh he was in on it i don't think he was i think literally

00:27:29 i don't think he needed to sit in the back room i don't think he needed a meeting i don't think

00:27:32 he needed you know action steps or a plan or anything like that i think literally just as a

00:27:36 jewish boomer he sees someone on the right who's a christ worshiper get shot dead in front of his

00:27:43 wife and children and he instinctively thinks i should give the remaining years of my life 0.84

00:27:48 with child porn on my phone in my pocket i should sacrifice the rest of my life to make sure that

00:27:55 whoever killed charlie kirk has a chance at getting away that i mean like even that is just

00:28:01 you're literally not exaggerating no he called out it was me on the shooter me distracting

00:28:05 instinctively police a jewish elderly man they then found his phone in his pocket he's like oh

00:28:13 snap i forgot that i have child pornography you know on my phone and then gets charges for that

00:28:19 uh that i mean sometimes you just can't it's kind of like the kyle rittenhouse thing it's like

00:28:23 uh he shot three democrats oh and they're all child predators yeah what you know what are the

00:28:29 odds? Well, apparently 100%. 100%. If you fire into a crowd of liberals, you've got about 100% 0.90

00:28:36 chance of hitting exclusively child predators, right? If you've got a random Jewish man trying 0.97

00:28:43 to make a distraction for an assassin for someone on the right, a Christian, to get away, 0.97

00:28:53 what are the chances that he's got child porn on his phone? Well, apparently 100%. 0.97

00:28:57 you can't even write this stuff it's like it's like sometimes it's like you know like even if

00:29:02 you were i'm not but even if i was trying to be anti-semitic like all i'd have to do is just read

00:29:07 the news you'd be trying to write it and you'd be writing you'd be like i i can't put this in there

00:29:13 this is too on the nose uh this is just no one would believe it nobody would believe it this is

00:29:18 dime store you almost like yeah you would have to take the reality and soften it a little bit

00:29:23 to even make it believable all right let's go to our first commercial break we'll come back we'll

00:29:27 talk a little bit more theories um and we'll also let's let's now you know so we've talked about the

00:29:32 shooter we'll try to transition a little bit and talk about some of the ramifications and why it

00:29:36 really does matter um to get to the bottom of this and you know charlie kirk and some of the

00:29:42 ways that he was pivoting uh in regards to israel at least in regards to uh netanyahu and the war

00:29:48 with Israel and Iran. There definitely was, I think, a provable shift in his rhetoric on that.

00:29:57 And him, again, like we said earlier, in many ways being almost the exclusive, like last man

00:30:03 standing in terms of right-wing influencers reaching young people under the age of 40

00:30:11 in a pro-Israel way.

00:30:15 Charlie Kirk was, in many ways, he was a dying breed. 0.79

00:30:19 He's a 31-year-old man, and yet already, in a sense, a dinosaur.

00:30:24 He really was.

00:30:25 He was holding on to love for Israel, for dear life,

00:30:29 and as much as he loved Israel, and Charlie loved him some Israel,

00:30:32 as much as he loved Israel, even Charlie was, it seems,

00:30:37 finding it difficult there towards the end,

00:30:39 and it seems like a lot of people don't want that to be talked about they don't want that

00:30:43 to come out and i understand that some of the things that candace has said it's like oh

00:30:48 you know like i don't know about that um but i actually think in the promise of god that it's

00:30:54 it's quite helpful i think it's it's helpful for her to expose as much as she's has uh personally

00:31:02 i wish she wasn't waiting i wish she would just drop it i mean i think that's the biggest question

00:31:07 at this point, you know, earlier, you know, if you'd asked everybody 48 hours ago, they would

00:31:11 have said, I don't believe Candace, she's full of it. Now people are like, oh, well, she kind of

00:31:15 nailed it. But then the pushback now is kind of like, well, why'd she wait? And honestly, we could

00:31:20 talk about that a little bit because there are some legitimate reasons for why she would wait,

00:31:24 even, you know, legality and things like that, or just honoring other people and having their 0.83

00:31:28 permission. So we could talk a little bit about that. But my point in bringing up Candace is to

00:31:33 say, I hope, whether you love her, like her, hate her, I do hope that she reveals more receipts,

00:31:42 because I do think that it's important that it becomes so proven that it would be inescapable

00:31:49 for everyone, regardless where they land on the issue of Israel, for them to see, okay,

00:31:55 at least in some measure, Charlie really was changing. And does that have anything to do?

00:32:02 does that have anything to do with his assassination what does that look like who would stand to gain

00:32:09 for this um those are some of the questions i think we need to delve into in our next segment

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00:35:35 well I want to do my best to represent Charlie in his words I think that's fair if heaven forbid

00:35:43 I was to pass away I would hope people would say what did he say and what was he trying to

00:35:47 communicate and so there's a famous letter and as best we can tell it's authentic it may possibly

00:35:52 not be but as far as we know it's authentic and it kind of shows his trajectory so we have the

00:35:57 text from Charlie that we showed those were recent it appeared recently he was continuing to sour

00:36:02 But during the summer, it appears that he wrote a letter to the Israeli prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu.

00:36:08 And the letter itself is decently long.

00:36:09 I don't have time to read the whole thing here on air.

00:36:11 He had a number of recommendations.

00:36:13 And he just came out and he said, as we've said of him, and it's true,

00:36:16 he said, hey, I'm very pro-Israel.

00:36:17 I go to all these college campuses.

00:36:19 But he was frustrated that he said, as I'm on campus,

00:36:21 as I'm defending Israel for this and this and that and the other,

00:36:25 fielding a lot of questions on it,

00:36:27 I'm struggling because Israel is losing the narrative battle.

00:36:30 We talked a little bit about this.

00:36:31 last week with Israel buying TikTok. Israel recognizes, hey, there's a narrative battle

00:36:36 that we're losing as far as young people, as far as where they're getting information.

00:36:40 They're just getting them from a lot of anti-Israeli sources. And I have here a quote

00:36:44 from Charlie to Netanyahu, and you can see some of the frustration that's coming out. So he's

00:36:51 traveling across the U.S. I mean, the man's away from his family 200 days a year, however much it

00:36:55 is. He's traveling across the U.S. He's speaking every campus tour. He's literally having to debate

00:37:01 people again and again. Well, what about Israel this? What about Judaism this? And he says,

00:37:06 listen here, he says, I strongly suggest, again, this is from Charlie Kirk in a letter to Benjamin

00:37:11 Netanyahu, I strongly suggest Israel not always depend on subcontracting their information war

00:37:17 efforts to surrogates in America. Mr. Prime Minister, I urge you to revamp your information

00:37:23 warfare strategy from top to bottom. Sometimes the impression is given that Israel thinks everyone

00:37:28 hates them, so I care about winning over hearts and minds. If there's any truth to this impression,

00:37:32 I urge you to consider that social media and podcasts is where you

00:37:36 fight for the hearts and minds of the younger generation. Obviously, all this

00:37:40 negative Israel propaganda on social media easily translates into

00:37:44 pro-Hamas, free Palestine sentiment on many college campuses. And so you can see

00:37:48 some of the trajectory that Charlie was undergoing. Again, in the text, he's saying,

00:37:52 listen, I lost a $2 million donor, so someone who's giving

00:37:56 it seems like annually two million dollars a year to turning point usa because he had on one of the

00:38:01 most popular podcasters in the united states tucker carlson to speak at his event he'd become

00:38:07 frustrated and fed up with it and so when people continue to go a step farther and say okay so he

00:38:13 was sowing on him and then would that potentially give motive again we're not insinuating it we're

00:38:18 not staking our flag in the ground that's our claim but you can see no that actually makes

00:38:23 sense. And again, this is the guy that is theoretically probably the only under 40 defender

00:38:29 of Israel that really was out there kind of doing that activist work. Zeb, thoughts on this letter,

00:38:34 additional context that I might be missing? Yeah, I mean, at the core, I think the letter

00:38:39 is basically asking someone to change their nature. And it's going to take a generation or

00:38:45 four or five to do that, at least for a people. But even beyond that, I mean, if we're looking

00:38:51 that timeline of Charlie Kirk's transition into questioning Israel, I did a video even prior to

00:38:58 the ballistics that I thought was actually better than the ballistics, and I gave a timeline, and I

00:39:02 can run through that timeline real quick and add a little bit to that since we've thought about

00:39:05 this. Now, right in 2019, we had the Groyper Wars, the original Groyper Wars, and there was a major

00:39:11 push during Charlie Kirk's Cultural Wars tour, which would be, he was running the roads with

00:39:19 somebody so with the people like uh rob smith right so they asked the question of what does

00:39:23 gay sex have to do with winning the culture war um but even along that they were kind of asking

00:39:28 questions on israel israel jews and things like this and um why are we why are they great our 0.96

00:39:33 greatest ally i think that let me if i'll continue here in a second i there's a there's a point to

00:39:38 this but um i think that kind of hardened charlie kurt's heart because he kept getting inundated

00:39:43 with these questions of of israel israel israel and so he wanted to defend his position as

00:39:48 most people do in a debate and so let's fast forward a few years uh you know like four or

00:39:55 five uh and then we have a showing on patrick davis podcast of october 12th of 2023 uh like

00:40:00 five days after october 7th and and charlie kirk's talking about israel issued a standout order on

00:40:05 october 7th and so i think this was a turning point for turning point for charlie kirk is where

00:40:10 he started okay maybe there is something to this i'm saying that the growth war is hard in his heart

00:40:15 but at least opened him up to what is happening.

00:40:18 So when it did happen, when this questioning did start happening,

00:40:21 it was a very, very quick snowball effect into this.

00:40:24 And so in November, right after that, he retweeted it, Elon,

00:40:29 when Elon said, you're speaking the actual truth. 0.99

00:40:31 I think people maybe remember that tweet talking about the nature of Jews.

00:40:37 And then if we fast forward 2025, you have Megyn Kelly at a Tupi USA event was kind of going on.

00:40:43 And I think this was more so in the realm of the Epstein files and the Israel and Jewish involvement with that, because Charlie Kirk had a very hard stance on pushing the release of the actual Epstein files.

00:40:55 And then I would say the Turning Point USA focus group there that's on YouTube that they did.

00:41:01 They pushed that out with the chapter heads across across the states and colleges.

00:41:05 Some of the chapters that they had, they brought some of the chapter heads in, had that discussion.

00:41:08 And it was very much Israel oriented and their thought process going into Israel.

00:41:14 And that was very eye opening for the younger generations for Charlie Kirk and how much involvement he had or how much control he had with the guiding discussion of that.

00:41:24 And then he went on with the Megyn Kelly show in August.

00:41:28 And they both of them were kind of going pretty hard against Israel and Netanyahu and some of the Epstein stuff that was going on.

00:41:36 And then you had Harrison Smith, which was pushing out the tweet that basically said Charlie Kirk is fearing for his life.

00:41:44 And then we have, you know, the follow on from there to what we saw on September.

00:41:48 Real quick with that Harrison Smith tweet, just for context, that was about a month before his assassination.

00:41:53 He was reporting what someone else had told him.

00:41:55 So you're talking secondhand information.

00:41:57 August 13th.

00:41:58 But he said August 13th.

00:42:00 So just exactly a month prior.

00:42:02 Hey, I heard from someone.

00:42:03 So this is not him hearing directly from Charlie.

00:42:05 It was Charlie fears that if he leaves the pro-Israel cause, that something will happen to him.

00:42:10 Am I remembering that correctly?

00:42:13 Yeah, so he was secondhand basically saying that somebody told me that Charlie Kirk was in fear for his life if he turned on Israel or started to question things.

00:42:22 And it seems like that's exactly what was happening.

00:42:25 And so beyond that, I mean, the day before you have the showing with Charlie Kirk and Ben Shapiro on his show, on the Charlie Kirk show.

00:42:34 and uh they were kind of discussing things and um i think charlie kirk said something to the effect

00:42:38 of uh maybe they were talking about october 7th i can't remember exactly but it was a question

00:42:43 about israel and ben ben shapiro's eyebrows basically went through the roof when he heard it

00:42:47 and so uh i mean uh even on top of that we see some of the josh hammer tweets um recently where

00:42:54 he retweeted on the september 9th the day before he retweeted trump's post from like 2013 on uh

00:43:01 public executions. And then he posted his own tweet saying public executions almost two hours

00:43:08 after Charlie Kirk was shot. So you have questions coming out like that, that things are coming to

00:43:14 the forefront. Like I said earlier, we're not going to get new footage. We're not going to get

00:43:18 new information, witness information. And so now we have to start looking back. We have to start

00:43:23 looking back. Where did we start? Where did we come from? And how did we get here? And that's

00:43:27 what we're going to have to piece together from now on. Because like I said, I don't think we're

00:43:31 going to get much new anything i don't know about you joel but i think when you pick allies i feel

00:43:36 like we try to pick ones that if something terrible would happen to us they wouldn't kind

00:43:40 of start looking at our allies and be like did they do it just practically speaking yeah you

00:43:45 would think yeah yeah um all right zeb you've been super helpful and i know you've been uh putting

00:43:50 out a lot of great material on this particular topic so uh tell our listeners where can they

00:43:56 go to follow some of the the material you've put out and some of the new stuff that you're working

00:44:00 on yeah so we are live uh every weekday most weekdays unless i have something actually going

00:44:06 on on outside the overton on youtube we have a clips channel on twitter also uh oto clips and

00:44:11 then i have my personal twitter which is zeb boykin um and beyond that you can find any links

00:44:17 to uh anything else that we're doing in the youtube description uh on lives um and then i'm

00:44:22 like we mentioned earlier i think the respect uh aspect is probably going to be up in two days i'm

00:44:28 looking at a month on the respect aspect. So I think there's some things that need to be looked

00:44:32 into that haven't really been dug into heavily. And one of those things is Erica Kirk and her

00:44:38 involvement and her background. And so somebody is going to have to touch it, right? And to some

00:44:45 extent, like I've mentioned in the ballistics video, I think there's some duty that I have or

00:44:50 we have just across the board that it needs to be out there. And if they're not going to be

00:44:56 transparent with what they're giving us, then, uh, like I said, we're going to have to look back

00:44:59 and try to make sense of what we see today. And, uh, I guess Erica Kirk video is going to be

00:45:04 coming maybe not sooner than soon as you want it to, but, uh, it'll be here eventually.

00:45:10 Okay. Uh, real quick, just as a teaser for that, uh, Erica Kirk, her dad, what does he do or what

00:45:18 has he done? I don't know. Google him. Google him. You won't find anything. You won't find anything.

00:45:25 I mean, I haven't done, I haven't put everything together yet.

00:45:29 We have, I have basically a pile of evidence that I need to sift through and organize.

00:45:34 And so I'm going to start working on that.

00:45:36 I don't have a completely coherent story that I need to push yet.

00:45:39 And so it's going to take maybe a few days, maybe a week or so to put that together and

00:45:43 then film that.

00:45:44 Obviously, they came out the other day talking about they were going to start pushing for

00:45:47 defamation lawsuits.

00:45:48 And Andrew Colvitt posted that they have really good lawyers.

00:45:51 And I believe them.

00:45:52 I believe they have really good lawyers.

00:45:54 Yeah. And so so it's definitely going to be a touchy subject.

00:45:57 And I want to do it right without I kind of want to remove emotion from it and just push what is evident, push the evidence that is there and be as transparent as I can, because obviously they aren't.

00:46:12 OK. All right. Well, we really appreciate you taking the time to come on the show today.

00:46:16 means a lot. And we'd be honored to have you come back on in the future, especially

00:46:22 as more evidence. Well, we'll see. I mean, this may be all we get. I kind of have a feeling it's

00:46:26 all we get. But if more evidence transpires, you know, is exposed, then we'd be happy to welcome

00:46:32 you back on the show to break down some of that. But thanks for coming on. And we're going to go

00:46:38 ahead now and go to our final commercial break. And then Wes and I will stick around and deal

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00:46:46 in last minute uh this is your final chance we're going to our last commercial break and our final

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00:48:58 all right we're back uh we're gonna first deal with a question from ninja 5150 it's not a

00:49:05 question it's a statement he said all right that's it i'm done you guys are wrong if you

00:49:09 guys are now pushing that erica is a part of it erica kirk uh well then i'm out goodbye um no

00:49:16 we're not pushing that uh this is what we're doing okay i want to make this abundantly clear

00:49:20 um what we're doing is we are simply admitting that we do not have a viable suspect we don't

00:49:28 it's just not that that has not been presented to us uh we've got about um is much of a ironclad

00:49:37 provable narrative for tyler robinson being the sole actor who assassinated charlie kirk as we do

00:49:44 with the epstein files as we do with jfk files as we do like um here's the reality one of the

00:49:51 biggest people to blame in all this is cash patel it is your pam bondies it's your cash patels it's

00:49:57 the FBI, like they have absolutely fumbled the ball, absolutely fumbled the ball. And until they

00:50:05 actually provide something that is substantial, that is reasonable, that's believable, that's

00:50:11 compelling with evidence, then basically what you're looking at is we don't know who actually

00:50:19 killed Charlie Kirk. And we certainly don't know even close to who all was involved, right?

00:50:26 multiple different players so with any crime right god forbid this would never happen but god forbid

00:50:31 if my wife murdered me okay and there was they they're looking around and maybe initially they're

00:50:38 like oh we think it might have been this this neighbor who was going for a jog you know around

00:50:42 the time that you know that joel was found dead you know and jogged past his house and they bring

00:50:47 them in they interrogate them they ask some questions this and that and the other but they

00:50:51 can't they can't prove anything they don't have any any serious evidence then eventually they

00:50:56 have to let him go and that neighbor never confesses tyler robinson has not confessed

00:51:01 they eventually have to let him go and the search continues and if they can't come up with anyone

00:51:05 eventually one of the things that they end up doing when you're solving for a murder when

00:51:11 you're solving for a crime is you you speak to the family you speak to the spouse you speak to

00:51:17 the staff. You speak to a number of individuals and you ask them interrogating questions. And yes,

00:51:24 you want to be sensitive. You want to be respectful, especially when it's a spouse who's

00:51:28 grieving the loss of a loved one. But if we had a compelling story with facts, okay. But if the

00:51:38 story is um tyler robinson boyfriend of a gay furry shot a literal cannon but charlie kirk 0.75

00:51:48 was a superhero with you know wolverine you know metal inside of his neck that stopped the bullet 0.69

00:51:55 and then he broke the gun down on the roof in literally record time that no one's ever done

00:52:02 an old wooden rifle that doesn't disassemble yep and and then put it into his pants but could still

00:52:07 run perfectly where you couldn't even see this very large weapon and then drop the weapon

00:52:13 reassembled right so he had time to reassemble the woods and drop it off in the woods and then

00:52:18 got away and told a bunch of people that he did it and then went to a shift at Dairy Queen and

00:52:24 then went to shift at Dairy Queen if that's all we're being given by our absolutely incompetent

00:52:32 and that's gracious incompetent i'm about this close to saying nefarious and wicked okay but

00:52:38 i'll stick for now with with our current absolutely incompetent fbi if that's what they're presented 0.52

00:52:46 then everything should be on the table question everyone question everyone you need to be asking

00:52:52 questions to everyone yes you do it respectfully and yes people are innocent until proven guilty

00:52:58 But yes, these questions have to be asked

00:53:00 because no answers have been presented.

00:53:03 Questions have to be asked

00:53:04 because no answers have been presented.

00:53:07 So nowhere in this episode today,

00:53:09 just to make that abundantly clear,

00:53:11 did Zeb or me or Wes say,

00:53:14 hey, we think so-and-so did this.

00:53:18 No, we're saying, hey,

00:53:19 we think everyone needs to be questioned

00:53:23 because apparently the FBI

00:53:25 doesn't have a clue who did this.

00:53:27 a random podcaster named Candace Owens has provided, I think, more compelling evidence thus 0.99

00:53:34 far than the FBI. I don't like that. I wish that wasn't the case. I would like to be a part of a

00:53:40 country that, you know, the law enforcement was more competent than a random black woman behind 1.00

00:53:47 a microphone in a podcast. I mean, that's my preference. That's the country I'd love to live 1.00

00:53:51 in. I wish that country existed. It doesn't exist here. Not the country that we currently live in.

00:53:55 So as long as those are the facts, as long as we live in the United States of incompetent America, then yes, you got to go back to the drawing board, blank canvas, and you question everyone. It's a crime scene. It's an open investigation, and we do not have a serious viable suspect.

00:54:13 maybe tyler robinson is a patsy maybe i don't i don't know how but maybe he's actually the shooter

00:54:20 but it even in that instance it seems very clear that at minimum if he's the shooter he had help

00:54:27 and more likely he's not the shooter because it's the time doesn't add up for him to be able to do

00:54:35 that and pull it off so then who is involved who also is involved behind the scenes and in that

00:54:41 sense i'm not saying you just question the wife or that you question her harshly but you question

00:54:47 everyone you question his business partners you question some of these donors you question you

00:54:52 you question everyone the this meeting that they had with seth dylan and a bunch of other

00:54:58 up in the hamptons yeah you you question them um and you try to get to the bottom of who did this

00:55:06 how did they do this and why because right now we don't really have any of those answers so that's

00:55:12 that's what we're talking about we're not trying to blame anyone in particular

00:55:16 thomas crooks who nearly shot trump in the head a year ago or the alleged killer charlie kirk i

00:55:22 feel like with both of them we know zero zero the most high profile political assassinations

00:55:27 won an attempt one successful 20 to 25 years no idea who they were no idea where they came from

00:55:33 no idea if they were groomed by intel what connections they had we don't know anything

00:55:38 about this guy thomas crooks and when it's coming to charlie kirk we're a month out

00:55:42 and the trail is going cold like that's how these things that's how it works you have to hop on the

00:55:46 trail before it goes cold and even with um thomas brooks at least in that instance there's a million

00:55:52 questions still unanswered but at least in that instance um you don't have the sheer audacity of

00:55:58 the fbi telling us you know like like he he you know was shot and killed right you know on the

00:56:05 roof uh with a gun um now there's tons of questions of like how in the world did he get on that roof

00:56:11 with that gun when everyone's literally pointing and saying he's on the roof he's why did his

00:56:15 cell phone visit uh fbi offices in langley yeah so there's massive many many many questions

00:56:22 unanswered but my point is at least in that instance people literally saw him get onto the

00:56:27 roof they saw him get onto the roof with a gun uh he was shot on the roof right nobody's having

00:56:34 to say oh he had superhuman speed and he did this and he did that like flash gordon no like he he

00:56:39 died on the roof um after after allegedly firing the shot which i think he did fire the shot but

00:56:46 who else is involved um at least that one there's still a million unanswered questions about who

00:56:50 else was involved and was he groomed and this that and the other but at least it's compelling

00:56:55 that um that this individual very likely pulled the trigger right in the case of tyler robinson

00:57:02 we don't even have that we don't even have a compelling narrative uh that that accounts for

00:57:07 in a credible way uh tyler robinson actually being able to fire off the shot and this incompetence i

00:57:14 mean think of the las vegas shooting the current narrative now is this dude hauled thousands of

00:57:18 pounds of machine gun and removed hurricane glass from like a 20-story building weighing something

00:57:23 like 600 pounds, set up a machine gun, and rained down fire. It was one of the biggest mass shootings.

00:57:28 We still don't know how he did that. That is still the official narrative. Yeah, he was able to get

00:57:31 up there. He hauled all these weapons up in a hotel, unseen, removed hundreds of pounds worth

00:57:36 of glass. There are so many different stories where it's like, well, how did that happen? This

00:57:41 defies logic. You close your lying eyes and you believe, and we are done being told that. No, you,

00:57:47 the federal bureau of investigation work for us we the people demand answers why these people died

00:57:54 why this person was assassinated why they supposedly maybe visited our intel community

00:57:58 what are you doing to us who is doing it why when and where and if it's nefarious who's going to be

00:58:05 held accountable to interviewing individuals and saying this piece doesn't match up and this piece

00:58:10 doesn't match up and here's the deal when people are innocent guess what happens they give their

00:58:13 story and you go, yeah, that checks out. Like the president of France, his wife, there was a hit

00:58:20 piece like, is this woman really a man? Well, sounds like she provided evidence in court.

00:58:25 So when you're wrong, what happens is typically evidence comes out and people are vindicated.

00:58:30 You have your day in court. We have that saying. What we're asking is every single angle. What

00:58:35 about this? What about that? We're not claiming this episode. Israel did it for sure. But you

00:58:40 need to investigate if jewish donors were frustrated at charlie kirk and mad at him was there an

00:58:46 involvement that is perfectly valid perfectly reasonable yep all right super chats you go ahead

00:58:52 and start all right we have a good one here at the two-parter from this dude rocks he sent two

00:58:57 twenty dollar ones very kind we really appreciate the donation he asked this part one what do we

00:59:03 call pharmakia as psychedelics are adopted christians must ask are we banning substances

00:59:08 what biological basis bans them? Do some have zero medical use? Do some psychedelics have

00:59:15 zero medical use? And did God create things that only have demonic human use? The second part of

00:59:22 this question, he said, we need to know what in the brain we can't engage with. What substances

00:59:27 in the brain can we not engage with? Banning psychedelics would mean anything that engages

00:59:32 the serotonin 5-HT receptors. 0.99

00:59:35 Christians must intellectually do this discussion.

00:59:38 If we don't, the enemy will.

00:59:40 Essentially, he's asking the question,

00:59:42 so this is a word from the Bible,

00:59:44 pharmakia, in the Greek.

00:59:45 Paul uses it in Galatians and Revelations.

00:59:48 Well, it has a range.

00:59:49 So pharmakon is the original word that it comes from.

00:59:52 That can have a very benign usage

00:59:54 in the idea of potions and drugs.

00:59:57 So you're talking about substances

00:59:58 that you take into your body,

01:00:00 but a potion could be a healing potion.

01:00:02 hey, you've got a cold, this can help clear your nose.

01:00:04 But as we look at witchcraft, rituals, sorcery,

01:00:09 we have to be honest that these often do involve some type of psychedelics.

01:00:13 I think of the Indians. 0.88

01:00:14 They would smoke psychedelic drugs, peyote, and commune with corn demons. 1.00

01:00:20 And so wherever you see demonic activity, wherever you see witchcraft,

01:00:24 we've got to be honest, these things often involve some level of mind-altering potion.

01:00:29 and what you're really getting at here what this dude rocks is asking where does the body end and

01:00:34 the brain begin because i think what paul is getting across is he's saying listen uh it's

01:00:39 not as though sorcery is fake we've had this discussion on the show before uh the reason

01:00:43 witchcraft is bad the reason witchcraft was banned in the old testament the reason witchcraft should

01:00:48 be banned today in a christian nation is not because it's fake and it's lame and a larp no

01:00:54 because it's actually real because we're not just stuff we're not just material every single

01:00:59 individual human being has a real soul a spiritual soul and that spiritual soul at a certain level

01:01:05 can interact with spiritual elements for christians they're indwelt with the holy spirit

01:01:10 the holy spirit is not a material being it is a spiritual being that indwells us when we're saved

01:01:15 by christ however our body the soul within it this soul can interact with i think of demons during

01:01:22 jesus's ministry and then to his point with psychedelics you can take psychedelics and

01:01:26 commune with and we see what we see is not a well this person took this psychedelic and had a

01:01:31 completely unique experience and this person and this person and every person that's ever taken

01:01:35 psychedelics has always seen totally different things now if you get into the community people

01:01:39 actually see the same thing they see the same types of beings they have the same types of

01:01:44 experiences so when individuals take these substances suppress the body venture out

01:01:50 spiritually, they're actually really dealing with real spiritual dimensions, real spiritual beings,

01:01:56 and we are not equipped for it. The human is a, he's a natural man. Paul says this in 1 Corinthians

01:02:02 15. We're bodies first and foremost. In time, we will be given spiritual bodies, resurrected bodies,

01:02:09 and we'll actually be able to navigate. We'll see God, who is invisible, a spiritual being.

01:02:14 So the question is, you've got body and you've got soul, and these two are bound together.

01:02:19 So it's not as though the body is a vessel and the soul is deposited in it.

01:02:23 They're distinct.

01:02:24 You have a real soul and a real body.

01:02:26 Not identical, but they're also not totally separated.

01:02:29 And where is it that we can take substances that affect the body to varying degrees, 0.96

01:02:34 but as they begin to affect the soul, where does the Christian have to stop? 0.97

01:02:40 Kind of give the ends of the spectrum LSD. 0.86

01:02:43 LSD, when you take enough of it, the body and the soul, to a degree,

01:02:48 they're disconnected, and you see spiritual things. DMT, same thing. Let's put that way at

01:02:53 the right side of the spectrum. And then let's take vitamin D, just straight up, helps you sleep

01:02:58 better, helps you get some sunlight, whatever it would be. Purely affects the body, like literally

01:03:03 affects the body. There's nothing spiritual about it. Purely affects the mind. And then let's kind

01:03:08 of look at a gradient and realize, hey, there's some things, they're actually a little bit closer.

01:03:12 i think of testosterone for a man you as a man you're not just a man physically but a agender or

01:03:19 androgynous soul your actual soul as well has a maleness to it you have a masculine soul so

01:03:27 testosterone a real physical molecule a deficit of that has an impact you're going to act less

01:03:33 manly you're going to struggle with discipline you'll be fatter so it's not enough to just say

01:03:38 well there's the body you'll be gayer you'll be gayer here's all the things that affect the body

01:03:43 has no impact on the soul here's the soul rather it's a continuity so to the question can we take

01:03:50 this can we take that are there certain receptors here and there that we can't we can't take anything

01:03:56 for that i think of a lot of uh antidepressants like those affect the serotonin receptors so your

01:04:01 ssri that stands for selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor do you have something that really

01:04:06 affects real molecules but also a lot of school shooters run antidepressants uh drugs like mdma

01:04:13 molly lsd others those affect serotonin so here's what i would say wrapping it all up every the body

01:04:20 and the soul are connected a healthy body is going to lead to a healthy soul a sickly soul i think of

01:04:25 grief grief is a spiritual thing it has real physical impacts on your body like i mean david

01:04:31 even says like when I uh when I had not confessed my sin my bones wasted away or uh bitterness you

01:04:39 know the proverb's bitterness rot is rot in the bone so like there can yeah so there can be

01:04:44 spiritual um realities that have physical effects and there can be physical realities that have

01:04:51 spiritual effects like sometimes you know when I'm doing pastoral counseling it's like somebody's

01:04:56 just been struggling with depression and we're going over you know scripture verse after scripture

01:04:59 traverse and we're applying it, you know, with their marriage and with this and this relationship

01:05:03 and this, you know, emotion. And then, you know, come to find out, you know, like things aren't

01:05:08 still aren't improving. Maybe there's some improvement, but there's, you know, the problem

01:05:11 is still largely there. And, you know, finally, you know, we are able to nail down, oh, well,

01:05:17 I go to sleep at 3 a.m. I never exercise and I eat, you know, like a exclusive diet of seed oils.

01:05:26 oh okay well that's why you're depressed so yeah we're not gnostics no right uh we are spirit and

01:05:33 body um it's not just the spiritual realm it's also not just the physical realm um but both

01:05:40 both realities and both of these realities parallel to one another and intersecting at points

01:05:46 and and one affecting the other so um i'm with you i think that was really insightful west that

01:05:53 was a great answer um and i would just end it by saying so we look at individual substance

01:05:57 i think of alcohol alcohol can have two effects god made wine to gladden the hearts of man so the

01:06:02 same receptors in your body in your brain that you take a glass of wine yeah friday night to the

01:06:08 glory of god is a good thing yep and that same wine proverbs also talks very strongly when

01:06:14 righteously used can make you happy exactly and that's and that's a biblical thing the bible

01:06:20 commends that as a positive good yep but the point is it's the same receptors right so in the brain

01:06:26 i don't think we can say to his question this is off limits this is off limits for any type of

01:06:31 influence but what we can say is this substance do we see some type of valid biblical use for it

01:06:38 they're ready to say it they're ready wait a second you're saying alcohol has a psychological

01:06:45 effect um and we can just go ahead and finally get our wish and ban all alcohol we can do it

01:06:51 yeah right no you're right it's a sliding scale it's a sliding scale and it just requires a lot

01:06:57 of wisdom and i'm prepared to say there's some substances where you cannot make a definitive

01:07:01 case for its valid use so vitamin d even up to alcohol which can have some very damaging effects

01:07:07 your health your relationship to god all of that but you still see valid use hey this still makes

01:07:12 me healthy like you as a christian are not allowed to ingest minor amounts of cyanide

01:07:16 right get yourself sick so this is just it's i'm doing it i'm doing it in moderation cyanide

01:07:20 in moderation no no you don't get to do that don't get to do it doesn't help you out so i think it's

01:07:25 not about what's in the brain literally being acted upon but can i see the substance and say

01:07:29 and this is how it fits into a biblical category these are the real beneficial effects that'll have

01:07:34 and so i can justify it in use in these cases and there are a number of molecules i do not think you

01:07:39 can say this has a valid use so if there's no valid use that we can make a case for exactly

01:07:44 mushrooms dmt you have to say nope these are not allowed some other ones hey this has a potential

01:07:50 for misuse cbd certainly thc to a degree but i understand there are receptors in the body that

01:07:56 can help soothe pain so on that one hey much more case by case alcohol oh the bible allows it those

01:08:03 are the ones you allow but then you say hey these i literally uh you're accessing spiritual

01:08:08 dimensions. That is the biblical word for sorcery. You can't do that. There's no valid use. They're

01:08:14 off the table. Christians can't have these. These, moderation, wisdom, sensibility, maybe. 1.00

01:08:20 Yep. Well said. All right. Granddad Farms is the next one. He gave us five bucks. We appreciate

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01:08:42 He said, I see no reason to say that the left and Israel are mutually exclusive. 0.78

01:08:47 True. 0.85

01:08:49 When it comes to their likely culpability, either of Charlie's death or the death of our country.

01:08:56 I completely agree. 0.53

01:08:58 I think that, you know, there's a lot of guys that I'm friends with, good Christian guys who, you know, are a little bit more normie centric than I am.

01:09:05 and um you know and we all have the group chats and all those kinds of things and a lot of them

01:09:10 said joel you know like don't you know don't ruin this one for us uh because we we've got the left

01:09:15 on the ropes you know like um and that's a huge problem and we know that you agree and i certainly

01:09:20 do that um that the left political left um is a massive problem so whether it's the lgbt lmnop

01:09:27 mafia um or you know whatever it may be um yeah there's there's um a lot of problems that stem

01:09:34 from the left and and if you're getting kind of groundswell in in your overall american populace

01:09:40 against the left like hey this is not just you know people's private choices and the privacy of

01:09:44 their bedroom but these are having you know cultural societal effects and we need to crack

01:09:49 down and some of these groups need to be labeled as terrorists um uh yeah you that's some pretty

01:09:55 good momentum i i get it you don't want to lose that um and so i want to be clear as as you know

01:10:01 with this episode and if we do anything in the future as we're asking some of these questions 0.81

01:10:05 it is not to take the pressure off the left whatsoever transgenderism is a plague on america

01:10:12 absolutely one way or the other period end of discussion and yet at the same time we can also 0.96

01:10:21 say that's a problem but there are also certain individuals higher up right it's not just you

01:10:28 can't you can't just treat symptoms like like problematic symptoms in a nation um you also

01:10:36 need to say okay uh so transgenderism sure uh but also like lives of tiktok and elon musk for that

01:10:43 matter um you know commented on this and i'm very glad it's it's very helpful they didn't just say

01:10:47 hey you know what um transgender uh certain individual transgender people who happen to

01:10:54 go on a mass shooting spree or assassinate someone that's a problem and i stand against that 0.99

01:11:00 no they they said no we need to go deeper how come everybody's turning out to be a gay furry 0.98

01:11:05 right we didn't have a bunch of gay furries and you know in 1776 you know like uh what why why

01:11:12 do we have this epidemic now and so they're like well let's look at our media oh netflix 0.83

01:11:18 oh not just one show this show this show this show this show this show this show this show

01:11:23 and and lives lives of tiktok was just posting for like like 72 hours straight and elon musk was

01:11:30 retweeting and a bunch of others uh exact clips and scenes from like a dozen different children

01:11:36 shows some of these shows geared towards two and three-year-olds on netflix proudly hosted not just

01:11:42 a one-off like oh you know that one slipped by you know like the cuties show back in the day and

01:11:47 people were banning netflix and good on them but this is like oh no there's a couple dozen shows

01:11:52 geared towards toddlers um so that's so my point is that's good so so we can crack down on the left 0.51

01:11:59 we can crack down on transgenderism and all these different things but then we can also say um who 0.82

01:12:04 is peddling this who's promulgating it who who's who's promoting this and we can say oh this

01:12:11 company okay and who's making these decisions at this company and who's the ceo of this company 0.88

01:12:17 And if you find there's a dozen different companies that are massive and have had 80% of the influence in pushing this certain cultural epidemic that's wicked and harmful in our country, and then out of those dozen organizations, if you find the people making the decisions higher up in those organizations, that 50% of them, 60% of them, 70% of them are Jewish, 0.66

01:12:47 Even though it's not Israel, it's not Israeli government, 0.86

01:12:50 but American rich Jewish people who make up, 1.00

01:12:54 I mean, Jews only make, I think,

01:12:56 two, three percent of the entire world of America's population.

01:13:01 It can't be that. 0.98

01:13:02 Maybe about the same.

01:13:03 I think it's about the same.

01:13:03 It's about the same, two or three.

01:13:04 So if you determine that, right?

01:13:07 If that's what's determined,

01:13:09 so you're cracking down on the left, on the Democrats.

01:13:11 That's fine.

01:13:12 It's never a bad day to pick on the Democrats.

01:13:14 So if you're cracking down on the Democrats 1.00

01:13:16 and transgenderism is bad that's great and i think you can do both i agree with with the sentiment 1.00

01:13:22 you can crack down on the democrats and and transgenderism and you can also say hey let's 0.93

01:13:28 pull back the curtain who's behind this right oh this corporation this corporation this okay and

01:13:33 who are the individuals who made these decisions okay this person this person okay are there any

01:13:37 patterns with these kinds of individuals okay they're all democrats all right are there any

01:13:43 other characteristics oh um 60 of them are one particular ethnicity but that ethnicity

01:13:51 only accounts for two percent of our entire nation's population hey what does that mean

01:13:58 something is there something to be said about that should we bring this to the public's attention

01:14:04 should we be aware of this you can do both yeah everyone in 2020 when at the height of wokeness

01:14:10 they knew white male ceo right they're overrepresented white men are only disproportionate

01:14:15 but they make up everybody knows hey there's a group here and they are way misrepresented be it

01:14:21 in a good way or be it a bad be it in a bad way so saying hey we have to notice this is this is

01:14:27 the case this is what it is none of that is nefarious you're literally just saying statistically

01:14:32 this is not how it falls and i know everybody knows how to do that because just four years ago

01:14:37 it was white men this, white men that, white people this, white churches this. You all know

01:14:43 how to do it. You seem to think it's actually bad when these people are overrepresented. So now

01:14:48 we're turning around and saying, hey, these things are objectively bad and these people are

01:14:52 represented. Yep. Well said. Julian Stevenson, you want to read that one? All right. $5 from 0.73

01:14:58 Julian. Much appreciated. Look up Show Your Faith by Works LLC. It's a foreign lobbying group aimed

01:15:04 to geolocate christians during sunday worship to target them with israel ads this story is this is

01:15:10 true this is bonkers so crazy you can do something called geofencing uh think of your phone all right

01:15:15 so your phone think of pokemon was it like pokemon go pokemon go yeah yeah that's right it was before

01:15:23 that was before my time wasn't my thing but um think of your phone you have tons of data you

01:15:27 have location data think about it facebook like if you have the facebook app that thing is pulling

01:15:32 your location information so that app has tons of data and you know these companies get rich

01:15:36 they sell that data if you could figure out for example uh when people what time people shop

01:15:42 the most when in a woman's pregnancy she buys kids clothes there was a time about five years

01:15:47 ago so think how far it's come since then target just from a woman's shopping there's actually a 0.65

01:15:52 young girl a daughter just from her shopping patterns figured out she was pregnant it was

01:15:56 sending her maternity stuff the dad was furious he's like what in the world you're sending her

01:16:00 this, she's not even pregnant? She'd be like, Dad, I kind of am. So huge companies, your Facebooks,

01:16:06 your targets, everything like that, they're using massive amounts of data to pinpoint you,

01:16:11 to show you the ads that you want to have, to sell, to get money off of you. So when it comes

01:16:16 to geofencing, there are ways to buy data of people that have been within a certain region.

01:16:22 So in this case, a church. If you have a church of 3,000 people, you can buy the data to see

01:16:27 the individual device signatures that go to that church and then come back out and using that

01:16:33 target those people for ads so in this case show your works show your faith by works llc

01:16:40 foreign lobbying agent had been tracking data i think it was from 30 different churches in three

01:16:44 different states and using that data to specifically target the people that attended

01:16:49 those churches with pro-israel ads as a form of propaganda it's honestly hats off yeah it's a good

01:16:56 strategy yeah and it's not illegal like it's not illegal to buy data it's not illegal you agree to

01:17:01 it that we should be aware of like as protestant christians you should be aware um that israel 0.97

01:17:06 thinks you're suckers yeah they do they think you're suckers and you are being targeted with 0.97

01:17:13 propaganda all the time so you should just be aware of that right from israel's standpoint 0.98

01:17:18 you know in our sacred capitalism bravo you know quite quite the move fantastic strategy

01:17:26 forget the billboard that hits everyone we want greg lock's church attendees yeah we need to make

01:17:31 sure you are towing the line right they're like let's put trackers on everybody who attends john

01:17:36 haggie's church yeah like this is our core we can't lose them right we need to hit them every

01:17:40 week yeah so uh that's what they're doing it's not illegal to do so from their side of the aisle

01:17:45 I can certainly see why it would be advantageous.

01:17:47 Hats off.

01:17:48 But from our side of the aisle and everybody listening to this show,

01:17:51 if you are a Protestant Christian, you need to be aware.

01:17:54 Be aware.

01:17:55 And for those of you who have loved ones, right?

01:17:57 So maybe you're a little bit more red-pilled on the topic,

01:18:01 but you know that you have your dispensational mom and dad,

01:18:04 you know, aunt and uncle,

01:18:05 and you know that they are being preyed upon. 0.63

01:18:10 P-R-E-Y.

01:18:11 They're being preyed upon by a number of corporations, to be fair.

01:18:14 right you know but trump's campaign actually succeeded in 2016 this was the big thing they did

01:18:20 hyper targeted ads let's see like local catholic moms for trump in iowa this has been going on for

01:18:25 a while yes but here we're pointing out this is literally a foreign country registered foreign

01:18:30 lobbying agency to churches christian churches in america we want to show you these ads that's uh

01:18:37 that's pretty orwell it's another another level and uh and we want to make sure that our listeners

01:18:41 are informed so thank you julian stevenson for bringing that up you're absolutely right i'm glad

01:18:44 We got to address it.

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01:19:04 He follows us regularly.

01:19:05 Cameron, thank you for your generosity.

01:19:07 Appreciate it a lot.

01:19:08 Cameron says, shout out to Wes, the sensible moderate.

01:19:12 So true.

01:19:13 So true.

01:19:14 well not entirely i'd like to think you're you're i like to think of you as um center right because

01:19:21 if you're a moderate dead center and then just then i'm really right and i can't i can't have

01:19:26 that right because if you're exactly center right then i'm a lib so i think wes is center right i'm

01:19:32 a perfect centrist all right so all that's now been covered here we go so he says thanks for

01:19:38 the info on top guys oh i'm not supposed to be talking about it i'm talking hey it's a super

01:19:42 chat he said it cameron this is not me this is cameron his words and uh he's allowed to speak

01:19:49 freedom of speech all right so he says thank you uh wes for the info on uh your top guys and for

01:19:55 your help with the job search brother uh you personally reached out and helped him yes that's

01:20:00 very kind we do that for our top guys yeah just saying if you're not a top guy i don't even know

01:20:06 what you're doing i i do know what you're doing you're going to be jobless your family's going

01:20:10 to starve that's what's you better become a top guy and especially if you're looking to move to

01:20:14 the area like this is a great place to live these guys are moving here fantastic yep george that's

01:20:19 just in general that's not how george town is a fantastic in general moving here um if you have

01:20:24 a skill hey would this yeah reach out i get people who email me all the time and i can't respond to

01:20:29 all of them but i'll be honest you want a response all you have to do is say in the headline of the

01:20:33 email um prayerfully considering moving to georgetown to be a part of your church

01:20:38 that person gets a phone call yeah that's just that's that's how it works um okay so he said

01:20:43 thanks for um uh giving me info to join the top guys thanks for your help with the job search

01:20:48 uh if i don't find a job soon i'll just apply for a position with ice doing the lord's work

01:20:54 god bless them i wish they had a location i think it's dallas and san antonio i wish it was

01:20:59 yeah but san antonio like close enough hour and a half there's people that can be hours

01:21:05 yeah we literally have we literally have like two or three families this is insane

01:21:10 two or three families and they drive um one of them drives two and a half hours one way

01:21:14 so five hour round trip to our church another one is like an hour and 45 minutes so it can't be done

01:21:20 i wouldn't want to do it you could also live they live way out west of san antonio you could live

01:21:26 north san antonio that's right commute south to ice for work do the lord's work commute north

01:21:30 And have like maybe an hour, 20-minute drive.

01:21:33 You could probably get it to like, yeah, probably about an hour,

01:21:34 maybe 50 minutes out to us.

01:21:36 To church.

01:21:37 Not unthinkable.

01:21:38 Not unthinkable.

01:21:39 Could you imagine?

01:21:40 What a life.

01:21:41 I know.

01:21:41 You get to sit underneath far-right extremist preaching 0.98

01:21:44 from Joel Webin on Sunday and then go round up illegals 0.98

01:21:48 Monday through Friday?

01:21:49 Monday through Saturday, probably.

01:21:50 Monday through Saturday?

01:21:51 God bless.

01:21:52 What a life.

01:21:54 God bless.

01:21:54 All right, Kodiak Joe, $10 from him.

01:21:57 Thank you, Kodiak.

01:21:58 We really appreciate it.

01:21:59 He says, so with receipts now being shown and battle lines being drawn, will we see the tour?

01:22:09 T-U-R-E?

01:22:10 True. 1.00

01:22:10 True.

01:22:11 Oh, okay.

01:22:11 All right.

01:22:12 Just typo.

01:22:12 The true right go full mask off and say enough is enough.

01:22:18 Or will Americans never stand up and hold the line?

01:22:22 That's a great question.

01:22:23 Americans will stand up.

01:22:24 If you read Alexis de Tocqueville, this is a French guy who came over in the 1800s. 0.84

01:22:28 he was amazed he's commenting like all the other sailors it's stormy the weather's bad it's night

01:22:33 he's like they don't go out the americans they have more wrecks than anyone else they're fearless

01:22:38 i think within the american soul individuals have souls in our spirit there's a family the way you

01:22:43 could speak of the family having a soul with traditionism and there's a national soul the

01:22:47 soul the spirit the vitality of a people real quick that soul does not belong to all americans

01:22:52 sure that belongs to heritage americans do not get the american yeah yeah so there's there's

01:22:58 say, I am an American, that person does not have the spirit that you are describing right

01:23:03 now.

01:23:03 But for those who are heritage Americans, all 17 of us who are left, we've got 330 million

01:23:09 in the country.

01:23:10 There's literally 7,000 of us.

01:23:11 330 million people in the country, and I would say, say close to 200 million.

01:23:17 Yeah, that's fair.

01:23:18 But that American spirit, I don't think will take it forever.

01:23:22 Did I say 200,000?

01:23:24 I meant 200 million.

01:23:24 No, 200 million.

01:23:25 Yeah, 200 million.

01:23:26 I don't think the American spirit will take it forever.

01:23:28 I think I do not know the framework that it will take political this that are together will there

01:23:32 be a civil war it's just literally impossible I think things are going to accelerate see our

01:23:36 fourth turning episode and something's going to come out of that but as far as will the American

01:23:41 people look like Britain just straight up replaced never even lifting a finger by God's grace I don't

01:23:46 think that's true of us as Americans now that American spirit for the record gets us in trouble

01:23:50 we do not like authority like there's going to come a point there's negatives to that maybe 500

01:23:54 years in we got to say look because that's part of how we got here there's no sovereign here there's

01:23:59 no authority here we don't submit to anyone here it's not like honestly okay i'll get in trouble

01:24:03 for this but it is it is not a surprise that um americans are all about democracy right libertarian

01:24:09 you know democracy my our sacred democracy we're individuals individualism all these kinds of

01:24:15 things um and then you think all right what is i mean there's you know a million different

01:24:20 denominations, but you think like, what's the biggest? Baptist. Is there a reason for that?

01:24:25 Local autonomy of every single Baptist church. And I'm saying this as a Baptist. Local autonomy

01:24:31 of each individual church, right? Yes, you have, you know, the once a year convention or something

01:24:35 like that, but the convention, the denomination itself, whether it be SBC or otherwise, has no

01:24:40 formal authority over a local church. So the local church is completely autonomous and independent.

01:24:45 and within those local churches what is their church polity? Congregationalism. The congregation

01:24:51 gets to vote. You can look at that and say wow isn't this amazing we found the timeless church

01:24:56 polity principles of the Bible. Or you can say oh isn't it fascinating that in this particular

01:25:03 nation America in this particular time period the height of liberalism that Christians in that

01:25:13 milieu determined uh that that the ecclesiastical polity of the bible was democratic and egalitarian

01:25:21 and also individualism there's a lot of historians severed separated and i'll be honest like i as a

01:25:29 baptist i'm looking at that and i'm like anglicanism is starting to look pretty dang good yeah right

01:25:36 now there's a lot of historians that have said exactly that that in america there's a very

01:25:40 anti-hierarchical anti-bishop type of ethos it's not present in britain it's not present in

01:25:47 germany uh those had much more structured be it a diocese be it a presbytery northern

01:25:51 presbyterians and america baptist and methodist by far those are the biggest ones that settled

01:25:56 the nation the first 200 years and and the polity being very similar and so that's not a coincidence

01:26:01 i do need to go ahead and add a caveat i said anglicanism is not looking too bad um if it 0.92

01:26:07 weren't for all the gay anglicans um that's the problem is like some of these older you know um

01:26:13 like i mean the the church in england just appointed um a woman right uh as a very high

01:26:20 archbishop bishop of what canterbury yeah very high role yeah very high role so um some of these

01:26:27 guys you know like well we you know we're the true historic church and we have you know true

01:26:32 hierarchy and biblical principles and blah blah blah blah blah it's like okay then i i need you 0.90

01:26:37 to stop being so gay right like i mean because at a certain point like the fruit is in the pudding 0.96

01:26:42 right you'll know them by their fruits it'd be a lot more compelling if um because the baptists 0.85

01:26:47 say what you will they love them some israel my goodness uh but on moral cultural issues

01:26:53 the sbc is one of the most conservative denominations that there that there is on on

01:27:01 the planet right now. And so I do think that there are problems, you know, with the historicity and

01:27:06 with some of the polity and these kinds of things. But that's part of the reason why I've remained a

01:27:11 Baptist as long as I have. Because right now, like I get guys reaching out to me all the time. This

01:27:15 is all freebie stuff that I'm throwing out. But one of the most common things that I get people

01:27:19 who reach out, they'll say, do you know a church in this area? That's number one. Number two is

01:27:23 pastors reaching out or lay elders or deacons, you know, churchmen, officers of local churches

01:27:29 saying, we really don't want to be independent. We don't want to be rebellious. We don't want to

01:27:35 do our own thing. We want to join a network. We want to join a denomination. We want to join

01:27:39 something beyond just our local church. How good and pleasing it is when brothers dwell in unity

01:27:44 with one another. Can you recommend one? And my answer is always, absolutely not. Not a single

01:27:50 one. Well, what about the conservative Lutherans, LCMS? Do you believe that Charles Dabney, or I'm

01:27:58 Sorry, R.L. Dabney, that he was a heretic and in hell?

01:28:02 No. 0.93

01:28:03 Then don't join the LCMS.

01:28:05 You'll be excommunicated.

01:28:06 What about the PCA? 1.00

01:28:09 You mean the PCA with like hundreds of female leaders 1.00

01:28:13 that have just been exposed? 0.99

01:28:14 You'll be excommunicated.

01:28:16 What about the OPC?

01:28:17 They're based.

01:28:18 You'll be excommunicated.

01:28:19 What about the CREC?

01:28:20 You will be excommunicated.

01:28:22 You will.

01:28:23 Now is not the time.

01:28:25 It's sad.

01:28:25 Literally yesterday, it went viral.

01:28:26 a man was kicked out of his church for tweeting a picture in his local frisco texas neighborhood

01:28:31 of an indian religious celebration he said hey i want my kids to grow up in america not india

01:28:37 and matt boswell the singer of a very famous worship song his mercy is more his church where

01:28:42 he is the lead pastor of disciplined that man out of their church kicked him out for tweeting that

01:28:47 oh that's hyperbolic they would never my brother in christ literally this is happening on a weekly

01:28:52 basis yeah good men are being kicked out of their church a while ago i said like now granted i i was

01:28:58 i was being i was using hyperbole but i said 99 if you're a young white christian man on the right

01:29:05 politically and culturally with right-wing views and you're excommunicated 99 of the time

01:29:11 um it's because you're right wing it's it's extra biblical it's not a biblical case now i wouldn't

01:29:17 say it's 99 of this i was using hyperbole there are 90 there are yeah but there are cases where

01:29:22 it's like, okay, he's an adulterer, or there's this or that, some kind of form of impenitent

01:29:26 sin. But the point still stands that there's an epidemic right now, right? So I don't know

01:29:33 what the exact percentage is. There is, you know, meaningful, legitimate church discipline

01:29:37 practiced by, I don't know, maybe three churches left in America. But, you know, there are some

01:29:42 cases where churches are excommunicating rightly. But the point is, there are many, many, many cases

01:29:47 where they're not. And so if that's happening with the local church, so think about it's the

01:29:53 same principle just applied at a higher degree. If an individual is right now nervous to join a

01:30:01 church because they're worried that they'll be put under church discipline and excommunicated,

01:30:06 and there'll be a public record of that, that will follow them the rest of their life. It'll

01:30:10 make their church life very difficult in whatever future church they go to. And if young men right 1.00

01:30:15 now on the right, on the right wing, are nervous to join an individual church because they think

01:30:21 they might be excommunicated for holding basic views that your great-grandfather probably held,

01:30:29 that the average American, Christian or otherwise, held even just 80 years ago,

01:30:36 and you're nervous that that will be cited as top-tier theological triage. That will be cited

01:30:43 as heresy, and you will be put under church discipline and excommunicated, and it's permanently

01:30:48 now on your record, scarlet letter A, E for excommunicated, following you the rest of your

01:30:54 life. Just apply that now. If you're a pastor or a church leader listening to me right now,

01:30:59 apply that to your church joining a denomination. And I would say that the chances are just as high,

01:31:05 if not higher, of the denomination disassociating formally, kicking you out.

01:31:11 So my point is, the principle of local churches not being in pure isolation, purely autonomous, purely independent, on their own, that's not a good thing.

01:31:26 That idea that it's not a good thing, I support 100%, and I long and look forward and pray towards the day that I would be able to—

01:31:35 Right now, informally, we have a relationship with many different ministers and churches.

01:31:40 I long for, though, and pray for the day where I can be in formal fellowship.

01:31:45 And our church, our local church, can be in formal fellowship

01:31:47 with many, many other Christ-exalting Bible-preaching churches.

01:31:53 I long for that day. 0.67

01:31:54 That day is not today.

01:31:56 It's not.

01:31:57 It would be a liability. 1.00

01:31:58 So right now, the Baptist polity is one of the only things,

01:32:02 that independent spirit is one of the only things

01:32:05 keeping a lot of faithful ministers in the game,

01:32:08 making them bulletproof making them invulnerable um and and so right now it's it's tough i'm like

01:32:15 i see on one hand our problems in some sense stem from there's no sovereign here every man for

01:32:23 himself you're the king of your own castle it's a rebellious american spirit on the flip side

01:32:28 though all this goes back to what you were saying wes the strength of that also is it's really hard

01:32:34 to get all of america to agree to just do what you want lay down and take it lay down and take it

01:32:40 exactly they did during covid to be fair good lord but what happened a year in tons of states

01:32:45 could not enforce because people were literally patriots yeah opening up their businesses that's

01:32:49 right in uh new jersey ian smith i remember they closed his gym just straight up kicked down the

01:32:55 plywood wood barrier that the state had put up and said i'm opening this a free man lives here

01:33:00 we're not going to take it anymore so even in america we did lay down and take it but not for

01:33:05 long and not forever all right let's do the last ones quickly you go ahead all right this dude

01:33:08 rock sent ten dollars he said thanks for the answer west this is regarding the psychedelics

01:33:12 followed it up do you think any medical findings on these substances that show medical benefits

01:33:17 are not quite accurate or just that the practice is not justified because of the positives and so

01:33:22 what he's referring here to is probably different forms of psychedelic assisted therapy so you have

01:33:27 maps for instance uh mdma assisted psychotherapy being studied in veterans people with ptsd

01:33:32 those of micro dosing so people take very minor doses of lsd it's been shown to help with

01:33:37 depression just feeling better throughout the day and so he's kind of asking uh like so i

01:33:42 understand what you're saying like these things can't we can't just use them for sorcery we can't

01:33:45 just use them to access the spirit realm or christians gosh darn it but do they really have

01:33:50 these medical benefits in my experience i actually i wanted to go to college to study the effect of

01:33:55 some of these substances to use, how they affect the brain, all of that. What I've noticed has

01:33:59 happened, and other guys have said the same thing, they're like a biohacker, like Ben Greenfield.

01:34:03 They'll do that. So they're like, all right, I'm going to microdose LSD, or I'm going to take this

01:34:07 psychedelic or small amounts of shrooms. And always what happens, not necessarily short term,

01:34:12 short term, I do think the benefits are real. I think if you did small amounts of LSD,

01:34:16 every day, colors were brighter, birds were chirping, music felt amazing. Yeah, probably

01:34:21 for about four weeks, you'd say, hey, I don't feel depressed anymore. But what always seems to

01:34:25 happened long term is they said, the consequences, the bite is worse than the bark. I remember

01:34:30 reading a story about a guy. He would be like, I thought I could smoke weed and love Jesus. And

01:34:34 he's like, I would smoke weed. And then I thought I was doing worship, he said. But what always

01:34:38 happened was I actually just became smoking weed. There are real benefits. They're short term. And

01:34:44 long term, the use of spiritual substances, the use of destructive substances like weed

01:34:50 will always choke out the positive benefits so sure short term yes you're probably going to be

01:34:57 more chill and enjoy food more if you smoke weed well i feel great yeah you're not going to feel

01:35:01 great tomorrow though or you're not going to feel great in a month from now i think the benefits are

01:35:05 overwrought we have a lot of great things to help fix depression anxiety uh it's called a barbell

01:35:11 it's called sunlight and it's called eating right well said all right last one go ahead and do

01:35:15 oof the nt dungan simper reformanda nailed it two dollars thank you so much he said grace

01:35:24 community church sun valley on the far list the foreign agent registration list that i referenced

01:35:29 earlier in regards to geofencing he's saying grace community church john mccarthur's church

01:35:33 that he pastored was one of those that was being geofenced completely true and makes complete sense

01:35:38 it does uh one of these days same kind of thing with charlie kirk right you want to be sensitive

01:35:42 john mccarthur did a lot of good i honor him i respect him and uh and he has passed away uh still

01:35:48 very recently i think you know i think of him i think of oddie bacham i think of char charlie

01:35:52 kirk all three of them um all around the same time that they passed away so um want to be sensitive

01:35:59 with that but um it is worth eventually noting that um that john mccarthur did receive a letter

01:36:05 i have a screenshot of it um that you know from uh netanyahu directly um the big man

01:36:12 yep uh thanking thanking him for um his teaching and his influence on america in a positive israel

01:36:20 direction and you know a lot of these things um i think that i think that's wrong i'll come out

01:36:25 and say it i can't i can't be hypocritical and you know and try to play both sides of the field

01:36:29 But I think it's wrong.

01:36:31 I can be sympathetic, though, and say that John MacArthur was one of the very best.

01:36:38 But it's like being, you know, I think of, you know, Bilbo, one of his uncles.

01:36:43 He was like, he was so tall, right?

01:36:45 He's a hobbit.

01:36:46 He was so tall, he could ride a real horse instead of a pony.

01:36:49 It's like, okay, so like, this guy's a giant.

01:36:51 No, he's really tall, but he's tall for a hobbit, right?

01:36:55 John MacArthur, at the end of the day, he's not a hobbit, but he was a boomer.

01:36:59 and um and the best of boomers not not seen in everything in general but on the issue of israel

01:37:07 is still pretty zionistic and so um so yeah so the fact that john mccarthur's church is on the far

01:37:17 list uh is not surprising the fact that they were given a letter from the israel government and

01:37:23 Netanyahu thanking John MacArthur for his service in turning hearts

01:37:27 and people using his influence to turn the affections of Protestant Christians

01:37:33 in America toward Israel is not surprising.

01:37:37 And have those things, are those ultimately, do they have negative effects? 0.98

01:37:44 Yes, pretty massive.

01:37:46 And yet at the same time, we have to, I don't really like nuance,

01:37:51 but there are a few times where you need it.

01:37:53 um you can't just be cookie cutter black and white so you can't just look at that and say

01:37:57 um john mccarthur because of his teaching his doctrine as a leaky dispensationalist and his

01:38:03 influence um he caused a lot of protestants in america to be fond of israel and their fondness

01:38:08 of israel is part of the reason why israel has the stranglehold on america in our politics in

01:38:12 our culture that it currently has and therefore john mccarthur never did anything good and he's

01:38:16 a bad guy i won't say that john mccarthur did a great job he was on ben shapiro and he told him

01:38:21 to his face, you need Christ. The Old Testament talking about Jesus. He deserves to be commended

01:38:27 for it. Yep, exactly. So it's just not that simple. Oh, is this guy a bad guy, or is this

01:38:32 guy a good guy? And I have noticed that, you know, like Nick Fontes even says, you know, there's

01:38:36 low IQ anti-Semitism, and then there's high IQ. And I think it's funny, and I think it's 0.99

01:38:43 actually helpful, you know, categories. For the low IQ anti-Semites out there, you know,

01:38:48 j-pilled what you know i don't think it's actually anti-semitism but you know but for the low iq guys

01:38:53 who are critical of israel um i do think that sometimes there's a tendency to do this with

01:38:58 individuals to just you have two buckets um jew and and faithful right it's like uh this guy taught

01:39:07 one thing wrong at one time ever jew judeo-christian not a real christian and you just kind of you just

01:39:15 kind of toss them over and i think that it's it's not that simple you can look at someone say

01:39:19 i think you had wrong views okay why is he a product of his time and place right is he is

01:39:25 he a product of the fact that of of all the proper i mean the boomers were the most propagandized

01:39:30 generation in arguably world history the history of humanity um they never stood a chance to be 0.52

01:39:36 honest yeah they never stood a chance so can you look at that and and and say but yet he still

01:39:41 who truly love the word of god taught 95 of it faithfully um under his preaching the lord was

01:39:49 pleased to save millions of souls and so the headline is good guy faithful man praise god

01:39:58 but then the footnote and you can't say the footnote without erasing the headline headline

01:40:03 john mccarthur good man um a footnote um yes john mccarthur garnered a lot of protestant

01:40:10 affection for israel to which bibi netanyahu who i believe is um a war criminal thanked him

01:40:19 personally that's i can't chalk that up as a w that's that's the guy who hates christ

01:40:25 guy who hates christ and is genociding um gaza right uh writes to you and says hey love your

01:40:33 work keep it up out there not great right not great so that is an l that is an l uh but that

01:40:39 does not mean that a man's entire ministry was a loss. I think that John MacArthur has done a lot

01:40:44 of good. So anyways, the fact that, you know, we only brought it up because of this super chat,

01:40:48 the fact that Grace Community Church, John MacArthur's church in Sun Valley, California,

01:40:52 is on the far list, that is true, and that should come as no surprise. All right, that's the show

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