The NXR Podcast - THE LIVESTREAM - Conservatism’s Long Coming Reckoning With Homosexuality

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00:00:30.000 why are you gay one of the most important questions that was asked by a news anchor

00:00:42.120 in uganda a few years ago it became a meme it became a sensation it's funny everybody thinks

00:00:49.260 it's funny but it's also a fantastic question and tucker carlson took up the question in one

00:00:55.640 of his recent episodes from the Tucker Carlson Network. He began to actually ask that question,

00:01:03.060 why are you gay, right? Is it really this gay gene that we've yet to find? Is there really some 0.91

00:01:09.980 biological answer to this question? Some people are just born gay and they can't help it. That's 0.72

00:01:15.580 been the rhetoric. That's been what people have said for decades at this point, right? You can't

00:01:21.780 somebody or disagree with somebody or not do anything other than absolutely affirm and even

00:01:28.460 praise somebody for being gay because after all it's the same as the color of someone's skin

00:01:34.040 it's an immutable trait it's the way that they were born now here's the thing tucker carlson

00:01:40.440 challenges this narrative he challenges this question but what is so sad i'm proud of tucker

00:01:49.180 for doing this but what's so sad is that it's a unique episode shouldn't be but it's a unique

00:01:56.100 episode for anyone of tucker's status to ever breach this topic you have to recognize it's not

00:02:05.180 just the flaming progressives of the democrat party the dnc no 99 of the gop is radically 0.99

00:02:16.720 obsessively homosexual they are either gay quite literally or gay in spirit but they are gay make 0.99

00:02:27.600 no mistake i mean even at trump's uh the the um the gop uh big uh event you know you you had the 0.99

00:02:38.600 the praising and platforming and esteeming of homosexuals. Charlie Kirk, rest in peace, 0.77

00:02:47.220 God bless his soul. But I mean, you can find clips of Charlie Kirk going off scorched earth

00:02:53.540 on anyone who would dare question him at one of his rallies about whether or not sodomites should

00:03:00.920 be a part, a central part, leading, in fact, in MAGA, in the conservative remnant. Charlie's

00:03:11.080 saying, of course they can, of course. Yeah, it's a sin, you know, ish, it's a sin, but of course

00:03:18.360 they can be a part of our political campaign and be a central part at that as he is platforming 0.96

00:03:24.840 TPUSA, platforming people who are homosexual. And so here we are in the year of our Lord, 0.91

00:03:33.100 2025, at the end, and Tucker Carlson is legitimately, he is one of the only people

00:03:40.180 at his level of media. I'm aware that there are other people such as myself, other Christian

00:03:47.820 pastors who have no problem and who have regularly and consistently said that homosexuality

00:03:53.640 is a sin but there is no one in the conservative political realm no one really in MAGA no one

00:04:03.080 really in Bush's GOP there has been no one in the Republican scene much less the Democratic

00:04:09.440 scene for the last 20 years who has been willing to say guys this is a problem it's a problem it's

00:04:17.660 a sin. It's not just any sin. It is grotesque. It is, as God says in his word, an abomination.

00:04:24.720 And one of the things that makes it so concerning is that year over year, statistically, you can

00:04:30.560 look at those who purport to be homosexual, and it's continuing to grow at rapid speeds.

00:04:38.260 This is an epidemic. It is an epidemic. It's no longer just two or three percent of the population, 0.94

00:04:45.380 but it's a third, a third of the population.

00:04:49.700 And so Tucker Carlson was willing in one of his recent episodes

00:04:52.880 to address that and say,

00:04:54.380 can we really say that this is a positive development?

00:04:57.580 Can we really say that it's good?

00:04:59.900 That it's good that a third of our population

00:05:02.640 is not living within normative sexual design from God?

00:05:10.600 That there's not going to be posterity?

00:05:13.020 They're not going to have children?

00:05:14.660 Can we really say that this is a positive development?

00:05:19.240 He brought up in his monologue that Uganda, just a few years ago, passed legislation that

00:05:25.820 there would be a penalty, a severe, up to, as a maximum penalty, a severe penalty for

00:05:32.840 homosexuality, aggravated homosexuality, and that was spelled out later on, if you wanted

00:05:40.020 look at the fine print, when it would come to a homosexual act that would prey on the youth,

00:05:48.940 minors, or elderly who were no longer able to give consent, that that would be punished

00:05:56.700 in a severe way. Now, you'll probably remember, speaking of the GOP and conservatives that are

00:06:03.140 good for nothing all they're good for i mean what does a conservative conserve sodomy 0.99

00:06:08.180 there's your conservatives that's what they conserve gay sex that's what conservatives 0.99

00:06:14.740 are conserving in america for instance tel aviv ted ted cruz from texas my home state he came out 0.96

00:06:23.380 publicly when uganda presented this legislation for aggravated homosexuality and you could read

00:06:31.300 the fine print. It was talking about assault, sexual assault. It was talking about other words

00:06:37.920 that will get taken down off of YouTube for saying four-letter words. Tel Aviv Ted wasted no time in

00:06:44.080 coming out and saying that the law that Uganda was passing was an abomination. I want to show

00:06:51.640 this tweet real quick. This Uganda law is horrific and wrong. Any law criminalizing homosexuality or 1.00

00:06:59.220 imposing the death penalty for aggravated homosexuality is grotesque and an abomination. 0.64

00:07:07.120 All civilized nations should join together in condemning this human rights abuse. Now, remember, 0.74

00:07:13.120 Ted Cruz calls himself a Christian. The Christian Bible calls homosexuality an abomination. Ted Cruz 0.90

00:07:23.540 calls any legislative penalty toward what God calls an abomination, Ted Cruz says that

00:07:32.100 the law against what God calls an abomination is an abomination, right? So God says this is

00:07:40.900 sexual perversion and an abomination. Ted Cruz says any country that agrees with God and would

00:07:49.360 pass legislation according to God's word that that's the abomination. And you have to see the

00:07:57.580 consistency here. It's not just that Ted is a raging Zionist and Israel first and a traitor 0.96

00:08:03.220 to these United States of America. No, he also is terrible when it comes to God's law. It's not 0.96

00:08:11.420 just that he gets Israel wrong. He gets everything wrong and he should be called out for such. I 0.99

00:08:18.700 responded at the time, and I said this. Here's my tweet. I said, take note, brothers and sisters.

00:08:28.000 I said take not. I meant note. This conservative, speaking of Ted Cruz, is not calling sodomy an

00:08:34.780 abomination, as the scripture explicitly says. Instead, he is calling the just penalty according

00:08:41.300 to God's immutable law an abomination. He's calling good evil and evil good. Now, Tucker went on in

00:08:51.320 his monologue in this recent episode and said that everyone came out against Uganda in this

00:08:56.500 legislation, every conservative, and they were all calling for people to denounce Uganda, and

00:09:02.440 this is terrible, just like Ted Cruz did, right on cue. This is an abomination. How dare you stand

00:09:08.580 against what God calls wicked. But I'm a Christian. Also, let's give more money to Israel.

00:09:14.460 But I'll say I came out immediately. That was my response to Ted Cruz at the time. And so the one

00:09:22.820 thing that I would say to guys like Tucker is that there are people on the right who have spoken out

00:09:28.680 with courage on this issue. I wasn't the only one by any stretch of the imagination. They're just

00:09:34.180 not in the mainstream. They don't receive the notoriety. They're not invited to Mar-a-Lago.

00:09:40.680 They don't get to have dinner with Trump. They're not famous. What they are are salt-of-the-earth,

00:09:51.040 everyday Christians, people who love God's Word and are willing to stand for it even when it's 1.00

00:09:57.420 not cool, when it's not popular, homosexuality has become a plague on the West. It has. Absolutely. 1.00

00:10:09.440 You have to recognize that those of European descent, the West, white people, white people, 1.00

00:10:17.300 just to make it abundantly clear what I'm saying, are on track to be extinct. Extinct within decades. 1.00

00:10:24.900 very shortly. And there are a few reasons for this. And honestly, the reasons really are few.

00:10:32.720 One is mass immigration, toxic empathy, a suicidal political policy of every major

00:10:42.040 Western country eradicating its own citizens. So one is mass immigration. Second, abortion. 0.55

00:10:50.280 we literally kill our own children white people i i am furious i am furious that our leaders in 0.98

00:10:59.600 america and leaders in europe have ushered in and facilitated the replacement of their own 0.99

00:11:06.820 natural citizens but i'm also furious that white people of their own accord have murdered their 0.59

00:11:14.180 own children in the womb by the millions. Mass immigration, abortion, but here's the third one. 0.96

00:11:23.640 Gay. White people are super duper gay. They think it's cool. They do it because it's a way of 1.00

00:11:33.900 standing out and finding identity and making friends. You come out of the closet today and

00:11:40.580 announce that you're gay. And you've got a decent chance of being written a free check from the 0.98

00:11:47.320 United States government. Your aunt and uncle will applaud you. Oh my goodness, it's the best

00:11:52.740 Christmas ever. Look at the courage from little Johnny. He came out and told us that he enjoys

00:11:58.280 other dudes. That's where we are. There's no stigma. There's nothing, nothing but praise,

00:12:06.240 nothing but opportunity i mean think of some of the politicians that have made it some of the

00:12:12.080 the people in media in in hollywood who have made it the only reason why is because they were either

00:12:18.000 a minority they were black or they were a woman or they were gay if you're a white man if you're 0.70

00:12:24.180 a white man uh then you've missed the boat right you you don't get the dei benefits of being unique 0.97

00:12:32.420 right that women are favored in today's society over men right black people are favored over 0.81

00:12:39.640 whites but the one chance you still have as a white man is well at least at least I can claim

00:12:46.360 to like other dudes at least I can cut off my entire line and lineage by not getting married 0.98

00:12:56.200 not having children. At least I can be a sexual pervert. And then maybe, you know, I'll still have 1.00

00:13:04.860 acceptance and a chance. That's where we're at. Mass immigration, abortion, and homosexuality.

00:13:12.600 And what it's ultimately going to end in, unless God does a miracle, unless hearts and minds are 0.99

00:13:20.340 changed is the full eradication of the european race that's where we're headed so tucker carlson

00:13:32.580 uh you you um you couldn't have done this episode any later than you did it's uh i wish that this 0.63

00:13:40.960 had happened much sooner but i am grateful for it nonetheless and i'm hoping that someone of

00:13:46.640 Tucker's status, having shot across the bow, having brought this topic back to the realm of

00:13:54.580 discussion, I'm hoping that there might be others of notoriety, others of immense influence who will

00:14:02.300 pick up the baton and begin to question the narrative as well. I'm going to show a couple

00:14:07.640 different things from the episodes, some stats that were shared, some of the statistics that

00:14:12.820 are alarming address it and that'll be the episode for today tune in now

00:14:18.660 all righty all righty what do you got west what are you thinking um ma'am i titled this episode

00:14:33.840 uh conservatism long coming uh it's reconciliation it's battle with homosexuality i feel like this

00:14:41.040 one's been in the works for a while it's been one yeah we kind of take it for granted like well

00:14:44.560 there's gay people and it's as long as they're not the really militant type that's okay with me

00:14:49.440 um but it's time we've talked about it like you said uh it's more than time we've talked about it

00:14:54.060 a decade ago 2015 would have been great and it's interesting because early 2000s do you remember

00:14:59.220 trump back on uh the apprentice there was a guy that was gay and it's like you're fired like

00:15:03.880 literally he fired him like he found out he was gay and he kicked him off of the show that was 0.97

00:15:07.300 commonplace in the 2000s right oh you're gay you're being kicked out of the military oh you're 0.59

00:15:11.360 gay we don't want to have you on the show they really were pretty socially stigmatized and who 0.60

00:15:15.600 else but of course progressives but also conservatives that were more than happy to

00:15:19.600 drag them into the spotlight and say welcome I have a statistic here so the first openly gay

00:15:24.940 cabinet member confirmed so this would be in Washington the first openly gay cabinet member

00:15:31.120 confirmed by the Senate it wasn't Pete Buttigieg as Department of Transportation head in 2021 0.89

00:15:37.000 Now, he was super-duper gay, and he wore it on his sleeve. 0.92

00:15:39.780 It was actually a Trump appointee, Richard Grinnell, 0.97

00:15:43.160 who was appointed as the acting director of national intelligence in 2020.

00:15:47.000 So it was like, who broke that glass ceiling?

00:15:48.760 Well, certainly Biden, Joseph Biden, and Kamala Harris.

00:15:51.820 They came in, and they installed all their different puppets.

00:15:54.800 Oh, wait, no, it was the Trump admin that has begun putting these people in.

00:15:57.980 Scott Besant, the secretary of the Treasury,

00:16:00.960 he's an openly gay man right now serving in the Trump admin.

00:16:03.780 Scott Pressler is a huge activist in the Northeast for registering Republicans. He has been literally

00:16:09.320 knocking on thousands and thousands of doors to get Trump elected. Super duper gay. Also, 1.00

00:16:15.080 Milo Yiannopoulos was big 2015, 2016, 2017 in the alt-right. He was out and out,

00:16:22.460 flamboyantly gay. And so we've had this problem, right? The fox in the hen house, 1.00

00:16:26.840 I would say probably for about 10 years. Accepted, welcomed, celebrated. We all remember when Dave

00:16:33.040 ruben announced with his husband that they would be purchasing children from a surrogate blaze

00:16:38.120 media congratulations it's always boys of tiktok it's always boys too it was two boys right two

00:16:45.140 gay men who are they purchasing and they weren't going to share one they had to get two yeah they

00:16:49.540 each got like it's it's you know they're like it's nice but uh only one of us can be the dad

00:16:54.780 and they did so to the roaring applause of conservatives they did and there's lots of

00:17:04.620 things we need to fix as far as i mean we talk about on the show as far as feminism goes as

00:17:09.140 far as zionism goes and we got to be honest some of these they're pretty far outside of the overton

00:17:14.260 window but here's what's going to happen here's how they're going to fall if and when by god's

00:17:19.380 grace they do one person says something and one person with significance is what i'm saying one

00:17:24.420 person with a top 10 platform in the united states millions of people listen millions and

00:17:30.040 millions of people listen to and we've got to be honest too millions and millions of the right kind

00:17:34.560 of people like like there's lots of people that have a lot of listeners but they're uh they're

00:17:40.300 15 year old boys like that's great if uh youtube streamer or it's great if someone that's on rumble

00:17:45.500 if they say hey this is a problem but we've got to be honest the way power works they're influential

00:17:49.700 people and so if these things are going to be destroyed what's going to happen is one person

00:17:54.040 with a lot of influence a lot a lot a lot a lot of influence stands up and says

00:17:58.300 this doesn't seem right to me right then two people and then five and then you slowly win over

00:18:04.220 normies you have uh classic fence sitters you know your tim pools your joe rogan's they're

00:18:09.220 pretty middle of the road as far as things go then you get to the point where even they're like

00:18:12.640 yeah you know i thought of myself as inclusive i thought of myself as welcoming but i'm seeing

00:18:17.880 the statistics i'm seeing how much society's devolved since 2015 i'm seeing the pride parades

00:18:23.540 i never signed up for this i'm not on board and that's actually how a movement starts and you get

00:18:28.480 rid of it but this tucker carlson coming out he gave it was about a 25 minute monologue before he

00:18:33.600 actually brought his guest out and talked about everything that was huge he said well why why is

00:18:38.580 it that we would starve an entire country in africa uganda in this case there's a number of

00:18:42.740 sanctions put on them that led to an ongoing famine in uganda for passing this law we starved 0.98

00:18:48.240 an entire nation because they discouraged men from having butt sex yep it's it's that enshrined 0.54

00:18:53.680 into law why it's that important oh it's supposedly this unchangeable thing but but why have the rates 0.98

00:19:00.040 of it gone up really uh 10 15 20 percent of people are just born gay well that's interesting

00:19:06.220 because why was it so low for all of this time he's opening up those questions and his platform

00:19:11.180 his reach his audience that is a huge shot across the bow as far as saying uh nope this actually

00:19:18.140 isn't a good thing and hopefully in 10 years the republican party we can only hope uh they'll be

00:19:22.480 saying yeah we're we're not really going to have that here or at the very least you're not going

00:19:27.440 to be open about it if you're open about it and there's going to be a little bit of a stigma we're

00:19:31.260 not going to point you to cabinet positions uh you're not going to work at the fbi for instance

00:19:34.960 we don't really want you right yeah that really is crazy that um as a country like you'll hear 0.95

00:19:41.680 phrases like globo homo or gay race communism and you know people still they're i don't know 0.85

00:19:48.440 what world they're living in or they just have never you know turned on the news or don't know 0.86

00:19:53.260 what's going on maybe they've been living under a rock but they'll say oh this seems a bit extreme

00:19:58.020 you know like why are you being you know why are you using such provocative language and it's like 0.85

00:20:02.440 um no the global homo is a perfect term to encapsulate where we are today what do we 0.98

00:20:12.120 export what do we stand for as these united states of america gay sex that's what that's 0.99

00:20:20.300 what what are our virtues that we're trying to export across the world but sex that's that's 0.94

00:20:29.060 america i'm proud to be in america i'm not i'm not i'm proud of our heritage i'm proud of our

00:20:36.480 history i'm proud of what we could be and what we have been but currently presently um this is my

00:20:44.100 country live or die shame or pride but presently no america is not doing very well america is first

00:20:53.480 in line to starve children on the other side of the world if they're from a country that wants

00:21:01.080 to stand with God's word against sexual degeneracy. That's America. We are the primary 0.99

00:21:09.920 exporter of Globo Homo. That's who we have become. And it's not just, well, that's because the

00:21:16.680 Democrats are in charge and they've taken power. Nope. Like you said, Wes, and I think I'm glad

00:21:22.160 you said it it's it's something that's important for people to recognize one of the the first

00:21:27.160 serious high up homosexual appointments politically was under the trump administration

00:21:34.300 yeah that's where we are the interview some have alluded to in the comments was with milo 0.58

00:21:40.500 yiannopoulos so tucker had milo on to talk milo obviously was openly flamboyant homosexual and

00:21:46.880 now would be claiming to have left that life and so he came on to talk about homosexuality and

00:21:52.000 And he elucidated a key point, and I think this point is going to be kind of the point

00:21:57.280 of contention, if you could imagine, for the next couple years.

00:21:59.860 And he laid waste to the idea, people are born gay.

00:22:03.780 Like you said, kind of in your cold open, if people are really born gay, we have a huge 0.99

00:22:08.280 problem. 1.00

00:22:09.180 Because then you're talking about something that's, it's something people can't change,

00:22:12.740 right? 0.98

00:22:12.960 You can't change your skin color. 0.87

00:22:14.260 Even the Bible talks about this. 1.00

00:22:15.400 An Ethiopian can't change their skin color. 1.00

00:22:17.720 There's things that we're just born with. 1.00

00:22:18.980 A man can't become a woman.

00:22:20.100 A leopard can't change his spots.

00:22:20.860 leopard can't change his spots so if people are really born just from day zero i'm attracted to

00:22:26.900 people of my own sex if they really are then i mean for one we'd still have an answer for it even

00:22:32.220 if a gene was found it turns out this gene when turned on does this but milo took the route and

00:22:36.940 said listen um all the time i'll read the quote here in a second every single time look at the

00:22:42.680 time every single time um this behavior it's a set of behaviors and this behavior is a response

00:22:48.660 to trauma about probably about a two years ago now to trauma trauma okay sounded like you said 0.50

00:22:54.720 uh trump first yeah this is a response homosexuality is a response to trump

00:23:00.760 no trauma yeah yeah um it was about a year and a half ago we did an episode on the statistics

00:23:06.600 of pride month and i'm not going to get into detail we gave the parental warning on that one

00:23:11.520 we'll keep it pg here uh but safe to say well it's a response to trauma it's a set of behaviors

00:23:16.940 that respond to something that's happened well what behaviors well uh you can kind of imagine

00:23:21.800 and we showed in the statistics that that type of predatory behavior from older to younger is the

00:23:28.080 defining feature of this community well how do they make so many people how to sour are more 0.56

00:23:33.880 and more and more to a greater degree conversion yeah young men coming out as gay

00:23:38.160 they were made that way heterosexual marriage produces procreation uh homosexuality uh still 0.85

00:23:47.060 has um conversion they still have offspring i guess you could say lgbt have offspring not 0.88

00:23:53.560 biological offspring not procreation but conversion they are constantly seeking uh to take

00:24:01.360 younger individuals, minors, um, and, and turn them into what they are. They do this through 0.86

00:24:09.260 propaganda. They do this through Cocomelon, which is designed for, I mean, it's slop and always

00:24:15.000 has been, but it's a TV show on Netflix is it's not designed for 12 year olds or 10 year olds

00:24:21.020 or seven year olds. It's for, it's for toddlers who can barely even walk. It's for babies. It's

00:24:26.660 a show for babies and they have episodes with two dads or a little kid you know who's a boy but

00:24:33.800 wearing a tutu and trying to be a girl and be a ballerina um so through in doctrine uh propaganda

00:24:39.920 indoctrination and there's a ton of people who have become homosexual through trauma because

00:24:47.140 they were molested as a child by someone older who was homosexual this is tale as old as time

00:24:55.620 There's also instances, though, in addition to what Milo said, there's instances of people who

00:25:01.680 have become homosexual simply through a progression of sin. There's a progression to sin. You don't

00:25:09.040 just enter the world and immediately find yourself eagerly, earnestly desiring the most high-handed

00:25:17.440 forms of sin. Everyone is born a sinner, and apart from the grace of God, you remain so. Even those

00:25:24.340 who are saved continue to sin, but they also are now a new creature in Christ Jesus with a new

00:25:30.600 heart, a new nature, right? Now it's a temple of the Holy Spirit which resides within them,

00:25:37.240 changing their desires, sanctifying them, and causing them to become more and more formed into

00:25:42.920 the image of Christ. But every human being, when they're born, spiritually speaking, it is a still

00:25:49.460 birth. It is spiritually being born dead, being born in sin. But although everyone is born a

00:25:56.900 sinner, that does not mean outwardly, right? That's the theological inward reality. But in

00:26:01.920 terms of outward manifestations, you do not have babies naturally from birth without any kind of

00:26:09.580 outward manipulation, just naturally desiring the same sex. That is a myth. That's a myth.

00:26:18.020 um homosexuality is trained instilled taught developed either through propaganda from as 0.95

00:26:28.620 early as the age of two with netflix slop like coco melon or um from some homosexual man who

00:26:38.660 does things that we don't even want to mention on this show especially for younger ears that might 0.88

00:26:45.660 be listening, but some kind of sexual trauma that you're experiencing. Or over time, again,

00:26:53.160 the progression of sin, sexual degeneracy giving way to greater and greater forms of degeneracy.

00:27:00.340 I have encountered individuals who, as I've counseled them, their testimony, they said,

00:27:06.020 yeah, I wasn't actually mistreated. I didn't have a traumatic situation. But in my case,

00:27:13.900 what happened was I just gave way completely to sinful sexual desires outside of the confines of

00:27:23.580 marriage, and I engaged in those things for so long and so often that eventually it was no longer

00:27:31.560 satisfying, and I had to up the ante. Sin begins to eventually demand more and more and more,

00:27:39.880 And I became more perverse in my desires for the opposite sex and what I wanted and what I wanted to engage in in order to be satisfied. 1.00

00:27:52.460 And eventually, the opposite sex was no longer alluring. 1.00

00:27:55.840 I wanted something even more forbidden. 1.00

00:27:58.700 And I began to indulge in homosexual acts. 0.81

00:28:03.020 So that's another way. 0.78

00:28:04.060 So there's unchecked, unbridled lust, perversion having a progression.

00:28:10.520 There's also indoctrination and propaganda through media and TV shows and the realm of

00:28:16.760 academia and all these things.

00:28:18.840 And then there's also sexual trauma.

00:28:21.500 But the idea that someone is just born gay and in a vacuum, if they were raised apart

00:28:27.860 from propaganda, apart from indoctrination, apart from our media system, our academic

00:28:33.320 system, our culture, if they were raised by Christian parents, homeschooled, you know, 0.71

00:28:38.760 in some other country where they didn't see all these things, and they'd never experienced sexual

00:28:42.900 trauma, and they didn't give way completely to sexual lust, to where there's this progression 0.98

00:28:48.140 and increasing appetite for sexual degeneracy, but, you know, they still just had the gay gene, 0.95

00:28:54.260 and so even in that scenario, they were still gay. Nope. That is a myth. That's a myth. I don't 0.98

00:28:59.620 believe it i don't believe it i've never believed it and it's about time someone of tucker's status

00:29:04.900 god bless him god bless tucker carlson i began to push back on that myth yeah uh milo said in the

00:29:12.200 show this is the one quote we're not gonna play clips from it uh but he just said this he said

00:29:16.260 we're not gonna play clips from it because tucker carlson i think he's our guy but even though he's

00:29:22.220 our guy and i'd like to believe that behind the scenes he knows who we are and he appreciates us

00:29:27.220 but he has an intern full-time on staff who will immediately shut down our stream if we play even

00:29:33.700 one second i was about to say a moment from as much as as much as shut it down they would meet

00:29:39.060 tucker carlson the tucker carlson network i'm not saying him personally but he will shut down our

00:29:43.940 stream without wasting a second if we share anything from uh one of his episodes so i'm

00:29:49.240 gonna i'm gonna just share uh one of the verbally uh one of the kind of the most important moments

00:29:53.280 to kind of wrap this all up.

00:29:54.260 This is Milo speaking, Milo Yiannopoulos speaking to Tucker.

00:29:57.460 He says, in almost every case,

00:29:59.480 and certainly in every male case,

00:30:01.020 homosexuality is a trauma response.

00:30:03.580 It is not a sexuality. 0.75

00:30:05.280 It is not a part of what you are or who you are

00:30:07.820 or a component of your personality or a function of it.

00:30:11.300 It is a set of behaviors that emerges in people

00:30:14.120 with a number of very easily identifiable common etiologies.

00:30:18.420 It's a set of behaviors.

00:30:20.240 And that's actually, I think that's more encouraging

00:30:21.900 than being born with it.

00:30:23.040 it's so encouraging because you can change well i have this behavior great behavior can be changed

00:30:28.140 stop doing it that goes for all types of sinful behaviors if you're born with something hey you

00:30:32.700 have to change your skin color hey you have to change your height hey you have to change from 0.66

00:30:35.740 being a man which you can't impossible so it's devastating it's demoralizing exactly here's the

00:30:41.000 thing when we call sin sin people don't think about this it's not only that it's uh that it's

00:30:46.200 the righteous thing to do, to call sin, sin, the holy thing to do. It's the just thing to do.

00:30:52.340 It's also the hopeful thing to do. Think about this for a moment. What we constantly want to do,

00:30:58.680 our inclination as sinners is to ultimately minimize and defend our sin and to blame it

00:31:06.100 on something else other than our own agency, our own moral culpability. So we want to say, well,

00:31:13.180 it's somebody else's fault. It's like, it's exactly what Adam did all the way back in the

00:31:17.800 garden. The woman you gave me. Right now, I mean, Eve was deceived and Eve did give the fruit to

00:31:23.880 Adam. But Adam knew the commandment of God. Adam could have said no. He was there in the garden.

00:31:31.420 The Bible says that Adam was with her when all this took place. He could have intervened.

00:31:35.500 He should have intervened and protected his wife from the lying tongue of the serpent.

00:31:41.280 And when God comes on the scene and says, Adam, where are you?

00:31:45.260 Adam makes excuses and he blames his own wife.

00:31:48.720 But ultimately, it's not just blaming his wife.

00:31:51.400 And this is what it really comes down to.

00:31:52.780 When we minimize our sin, when we defend against God's ultimate, God's justice and what God says about our sin,

00:32:02.340 it's not just blaming others, but it's ultimately indicting God himself.

00:32:07.740 Adam doesn't just say, well, it's the woman's fault.

00:32:09.700 He says, it's the woman you gave me.

00:32:13.240 And still to this day, that's what we do when it comes to our sin.

00:32:16.820 Apart from true repentance wrought by the Holy Spirit, repentance granted to us as a gift,

00:32:23.520 it's not just something that we can conjure up in and of ourself.

00:32:26.380 We must be granted the gift of repentance.

00:32:28.420 And apart from that, what we ultimately do is we minimize sin,

00:32:32.420 we defend ourselves against the charge, the accusation of having sinned,

00:32:37.180 And we do this ultimately by indicting not just our fellow man, but by indicting and blaming God, right?

00:32:44.280 The person who's saying, well, I was born this way.

00:32:45.940 What are they really saying?

00:32:47.260 What they're saying is God made me this way.

00:32:50.640 It's God's fault.

00:32:51.220 I didn't have a choice.

00:32:52.260 It's not my fault.

00:32:53.640 It's God's fault.

00:32:55.280 And that's why as Christians, we have to push back against that narrative.

00:33:00.540 It's God's fault. 0.99

00:33:02.540 God makes sexual degenerates. 0.97

00:33:05.560 No, no. 0.99

00:33:07.180 That is blasphemous. How dare you? How dare you blame God for your sin? But what's hopeful about

00:33:18.960 naming sin for what it is, sin, is that sin indicts the individual. It makes me morally

00:33:27.360 responsible. It makes me guilty. But the beauty about sin being sin is that although it makes me

00:33:35.060 guilty, sin, by the grace of God, can be changed. Sin can be changed. Now, the leopard can't change

00:33:42.000 its spots. The Ethiopian cannot change its skin, but the gay man actually can change being gay. 1.00

00:33:50.440 He actually, he can. He absolutely can, because it really is, at the end of the day, despite all 1.00

00:33:56.080 the narratives and all the propaganda, it is a set of behaviors, a set of behaviors that can be

00:34:02.560 changed by the grace of God. And we have to preach that message. That is the hope of the gospel,

00:34:10.240 that by faith in Christ and repentance of sin, that we really can be new creatures in Christ

00:34:17.760 Jesus and live new lives, making new choices to the glory of God. And that is an immensely

00:34:23.720 hopeful message. One more thing I wanted to say briefly about the legislation from Uganda.

00:34:29.540 And I've had people ask me this question and there's, you know, some special episodes that

00:34:36.320 we already kind of have in the hopper that we're excited, a lot of new projects and things that

00:34:42.820 we'll be unveiling in January next year, the year of our Lord, 2026. So we're really excited about

00:34:49.480 that. But I'm just remembering now, and I want to go ahead and preemptively clarify this. There's

00:34:56.780 there's one project that we worked on where, um, the, the topic came up about homosexuality and

00:35:03.640 civilly, uh, in this, in the civil realm, what the appropriate punishment should be.

00:35:08.860 And, and I, I just wanted to say, you know, that this is something, um, that, that helped me a lot

00:35:16.020 in understanding, not just what God calls righteous and what God calls immoral in the

00:35:21.740 Old Testament, but specifically grappling. As a Christian man, knowing that all of God's word

00:35:27.420 is infallible, it's all true, that God is holy, that God is just. God is not harsh. He's not

00:35:35.680 unfair. He doesn't overly punish sin. So it's not just looking at the Old Testament and saying

00:35:41.100 what God says was immoral really is immoral. God's right. What God says is righteous really

00:35:46.800 is righteous, God's right, but also the penalties in the Old Testament that God attaches to certain

00:35:52.700 sins. Let God be true, though every man a liar. As Romans says, God's penalties are just. God's

00:35:59.780 penalties are fair. They are not overly severe. They are not harsh. And so when you look at the

00:36:05.600 penalties attached in the Old Testament, homosexuality was not just treated as a sin,

00:36:11.240 but also it was considered a crime. It was considered a crime, just for the record,

00:36:14.920 in these United States up until very recently, 100 years ago? No, just a few decades ago.

00:36:22.340 Just a few decades ago. And historically, all 50 states had laws on the books, not just sermons

00:36:30.260 from the pulpits in churches by pastors, but laws and legislation on the books in the civil realm

00:36:36.360 against homosexuality. But in terms of the penalty, it's true that the Old Testament lists

00:36:43.220 the death penalty, capital punishment. But one important thing, this was key for me in

00:36:49.060 understanding the law of God and the penalties attached to it, especially as it pertains to the

00:36:54.200 civil law given to Israel under the Old Covenant and the Old Testament. The penalties that are

00:37:00.440 listed in the Old Testament are listed as maximum penalties. The best illustration or example that

00:37:08.400 I've thought of that I've used a few times now to articulate this would be, you know, in Texas,

00:37:13.800 you'll sometimes see signs that say, you know, don't mess with Texas. And so you'll see signs

00:37:18.720 that talk about littering, that if you litter, the penalty is like a $5,000 fine and two years

00:37:25.640 in jail. Okay, well, that is on the books. That is on the books. But I personally don't know anyone

00:37:32.640 who's currently doing hard time. It's like, man, I've been in jail for 18 months, still got six

00:37:38.340 more months till, you know, maybe I'm let free on good behavior. And it's like, man, what did you

00:37:42.680 do? You know, did you defraud someone to, you know, was it like armed assault, you know, or

00:37:47.540 theft? I threw a Coke bottle out my window. Right. I don't know. Expensive McDonald's meal of all

00:37:53.080 time. Right. I don't know anybody doing a hard time for littering, but the reason why it's on

00:37:57.480 the books as a maximum penalty is because, well, because of just that it's a maximum penalty. That

00:38:03.260 doesn't mean that this is always the penalty that will be dealt out. But what it does mean

00:38:07.480 is that everything the government ultimately legislates, everything that the government

00:38:14.480 enforces, it enforces at gunpoint. What I mean by that is if you don't pay your taxes,

00:38:21.660 you're going to get some letters in the mail. You ignore the letters, you're going to get some

00:38:25.520 phone calls. You ignore the phone calls, you're going to get an in-person visit. You slam the

00:38:30.540 door on that person's face, eventually you will get an in-person visit from armed officers and

00:38:37.860 they will put you in handcuffs and take you away. Eventually, the law, every law, if it is disregarded

00:38:45.580 long enough, eventually it raises to the point of a gunpoint. And that's not wrong so long as

00:38:54.780 the laws are just because Romans 13, God gave the sword to the civil magistrate. That's the tool 0.62

00:39:03.180 that God assigned to civil government for enforcing righteousness. So when you think of

00:39:10.920 littering, to go back to that example, it's not that someone throws a Coke bottle out their window

00:39:16.040 and it's like, believe it or not, jail. Immediately, two years, hard time, $5,000 fine. No, it's

00:39:22.240 talking about a repeat serial offender who, with impunity, he's been warned several times, he's

00:39:28.720 been given tickets, you know, and fines, and he keeps, and it's not just Coke bottles. He's like

00:39:33.560 taking, you know, like truckloads of trash and throwing it on the interstate, you know, off the

00:39:39.260 back of his truck, you know, on a weekly basis. Then yes, eventually you can go to jail. I think

00:39:46.380 that that's the principle in the old testament is that homosexuality was punishable up to death

00:39:53.300 and there were many things breaking the sabbath was punishable up to death there's only one uh

00:39:59.760 one particular commandment uh or one one crime i should it's a sin and a crime in the old testament

00:40:06.080 that uh mandated capital punishment and that was murder and we see that expressed in the noaic

00:40:12.280 covenant, that if you take someone's life, you forfeit your own. The only punishment for those

00:40:20.800 who take a life is to forfeit their own. So capital punishment is mandated. It's required

00:40:27.300 for the crime of murder. And then capital punishment is there as a maximum penalty.

00:40:34.720 And I think the implicit principle to be understood with all these other crimes, 0.92

00:40:40.080 homosexuality being one of them according to the old testament is that given enough offense 0.91

00:40:45.780 flagrant offense high-handed offense repetitive serial offenders that eventually that it could

00:40:52.460 rise to that level as well so so when you look at the old testament i don't believe if america

00:40:57.900 was a christian nation today right if christian nationalism was a thing i don't believe that in 0.72

00:41:03.460 order to be pleasing to god that we would have to have the gay police going around and and 0.50

00:41:09.940 spying on people in their private homes and breaking in in the middle of the night and 0.99

00:41:15.560 arresting two men and taking them away to the guillotine. I don't think that's what the Old

00:41:22.820 Testament is talking about. However, what do you do if you have a gay man who it's not just that 0.99

00:41:29.920 he's gay? That's a sin. But on top of that, he's writing paraphernalia and propaganda to be put in 1.00

00:41:37.700 the libraries, public libraries of children in schools to be read to them. He's also leading

00:41:43.540 and orchestrating gay pride parades in major cities in America with men who are dressed 0.72

00:41:51.740 in virtually nothing, paraded in front of children in grotesque ways, public nudity. 0.88

00:42:00.580 He's doing, they're like, yes, at a certain point, at a certain point you would say, okay,

00:42:04.660 wait a second, we've given you ample warnings. You've received fines. You've ignored the phone

00:42:12.340 calls, ignored the letters. You ignored this, ignored that. You're a serial repeat offender

00:42:18.280 in a public and fragrant way, not just privately. And so, yes, this is a serious crime. We have

00:42:26.020 tried to bring reform to you personally to protect the youth of our society. You are refused at every

00:42:33.500 single level. And so, yes, eventually that would merit even capital punishment. And I don't believe

00:42:40.060 that that is just belonging to the Old Testament. I believe that if we have Christian nations today

00:42:45.920 that exorbitant repeat offenders in the category of sexual degeneracy, that that would be not the 1.00

00:42:55.300 only penalty, but a maximum penalty. And I think that that's honestly what the legislation from

00:43:00.860 Uganda a few years back when that became a big news story. That's what it was getting at. It

00:43:05.820 didn't just say two homosexual men privately in their home. No, it was talking about aggravated 0.94

00:43:14.140 homosexual assault, that at that level, that it could reach the point, not in every case,

00:43:22.240 but that the maximum penalty could include capital punishment. That is perfectly biblical. 0.97

00:43:29.360 It's also perfectly logical when you're thinking about protecting the most vulnerable of a society.

00:43:35.760 And Tel Aviv, Ted Cruz, who claims to be a Christian,

00:43:39.160 immediately came out and called what God calls homosexuality an abomination.

00:43:43.240 No, he called anyone who, any nation seeking to be righteous in affirming God's law, them the abomination. 0.75

00:43:54.320 What a shame.

00:43:56.320 What a shame.

00:43:56.800 i mean ted cruz he's he's maga right uh ostensibly yeah yeah so there's your there's your based

00:44:04.300 maga there's your base mag that's where we are today and um and the fact that you know at least

00:44:11.280 one guy tucker carlson is pushing back on it he's not going to say everything that i just said

00:44:17.160 right you know like i mean he probably doesn't go as far as we do but you know what i i'll take

00:44:23.080 that back. By God's grace, one day, maybe he will, actually. Maybe he'll be a greater homophobe than

00:44:28.840 you. Maybe. Honestly, if any guy in mainstream media eventually just said, that's it, they, I 0.63

00:44:35.760 mean, they're turning the frogs gay. You know, a third of the population is homosexual. We need 0.93

00:44:43.380 Jesus. We need Jesus, and we need his word, and we need a major change to our society,

00:44:52.100 or we're literally going to go extinct if anyone could come to that breaking point and eventually

00:44:57.600 say you know what what joel just articulated actually is reasonable and say it publicly

00:45:01.960 tucker carlson before he dies maybe maybe it's his last episode that he releases i could see him

00:45:08.600 maybe eventually uh being willing to say that because i do think you know i don't know him

00:45:13.220 personally and i'm sure he has shortcomings like every everyone i have shortcomings everyone has

00:45:18.160 shortcomings but i do think it does seem as though tucker um genuinely is a christian um loves god's

00:45:26.080 word uh loves the lord and and he's exercised i mean say what you will about him whether you love

00:45:32.820 him or hate him you've got to admit the guy has exercised some serious and i think respectable

00:45:37.780 courage he has been willing to be absolutely hated these last couple of years and taking stances

00:45:44.060 that no one else would take at great cost to himself personally, his career,

00:45:50.060 and I'll just go on record and say I'm grateful for Tucker Carlson.

00:45:53.520 Yeah, I want to talk about culturally how to push back against it, 0.85

00:45:56.740 but practically the three things you mentioned that make gay men propaganda, 0.98

00:46:01.360 abuse, and then you could just say immorality, consuming lots of pornography, 0.99

00:46:05.280 sleeping with lots of people, perversion.

00:46:07.220 What's the solution for all three of those things to stop the pipeline

00:46:10.300 of young men and young women indulging in this sin?

00:46:13.220 more preaching laws oh laws yeah it's like uh man like if only there was a way to stop propaganda

00:46:20.560 on billboards and tv shows oh wait you can't uh you go through uh hollywood there was a number

00:46:26.220 of laws back in the 60s and the 70s as broadcast media became prevalent there was laws about what

00:46:31.540 couples were allowed to do on screen what they were allowed to say literally in law nobody was

00:46:35.560 allowed to advocate something as abortion i remember watching like musicals and old black

00:46:40.360 and white films and things like that with my family both of my parents are music majors so

00:46:44.740 we grew up with a little bit of culture god bless them and we would watch you know all the classic

00:46:48.900 films and uh you would notice that like the married couple in the film you know um still

00:46:54.140 would never if they were sitting in it like if they were in a bedroom for a certain scene and

00:46:58.480 they like sat on the bed yep um they would always have to have one foot planted on the ground they

00:47:03.960 could never lay down in the bed together and i remember like looking into it my you know and

00:47:08.380 realizing that that was actually, that was a rule for Hollywood. You could not have even a married

00:47:13.160 couple laying in a bed together. They still had to have at least one of their feet planted on the

00:47:19.140 ground as they're sitting on the edge of the bed. A married straight couple. Right. So it's like, 1.00

00:47:24.200 oh, well, the propaganda, there's nothing we can do about it. This is just how it's always going

00:47:28.020 to be. There's always going to be gay people on TV. Well, first of all, white pill, that seems to 1.00

00:47:31.720 be going away. We'll talk about it in a minute. Yeah, talk about that in a second. But we've had

00:47:35.860 laws before not 2 000 years ago not a thousand years ago less than 100 years ago less than 70

00:47:42.100 years ago we can run it back some of those laws are still in the books actually in the great state

00:47:47.780 of texas you just have to enforce it right like literally it's like oh well what can we do about

00:47:52.140 this you can make it illegal turns out you can take bad things wield the power of the state

00:47:56.580 against an evildoer and say hey this pipeline that has led to thousands and thousands millions

00:48:01.760 of Gen Z saying, hey, I identify as someone who likes same-sex another couple or another person

00:48:09.220 same-sex as me. What could stop this pipeline? You can literally do it through law. All three 0.87

00:48:13.820 of those things. At some level, you can't completely stop them, of course. And as we've

00:48:17.740 alluded to, you're not going to be the police going in and knocking on people's door. It's

00:48:21.640 your weekly check for you to affirm that you haven't had any homosexual thoughts. But practically

00:48:25.500 at the public external level, you can shut all of that down. And in the past, we had laws

00:48:31.140 that stopped all of that. We've done it before, and by God, we're going to do it again.

00:48:35.500 Well, it's the same as, think of it like with drunkenness, for instance. Does the Bible say

00:48:39.400 that drinking alcohol is a sin? No. Does the Bible say that drunkenness is a sin? Yes. If you get

00:48:45.120 drunk in your home, are you sinning before God, and will you be held accountable? Yes. If you get

00:48:52.040 drunk in your home, it's a sin before God, but is it a crime against the public? No. But if you get

00:48:58.720 drunk publicly that right there's uh drunk driving not just a sin crying uh being in a

00:49:06.180 drunken stupor even if you're not behind the will but you're drunk in public and and um yelling

00:49:11.720 obscenities then then it's uh that's also not just a sin but a crime now we we my point is we

00:49:18.320 understand how to think in categories we do right we're just not willing to right now we're all

00:49:23.020 playing dumb we're all playing dumb well how could you possibly ever do that well we've done it

00:49:27.720 before. We've done it before. We can do it again. So we have these categories for understanding 0.99

00:49:33.780 this is a sin, but it's not a crime, or this is a sin and it is a crime. And what makes the

00:49:39.780 difference? Well, in some cases, what makes the difference between a sin and a crime is private

00:49:47.020 versus public. The nature of that sin, if it's committed privately, it's a sin, like being drunk

00:49:54.160 privately in your home versus being drunk publicly and causing disorder. That would be not

00:50:00.060 only a sin, but also a crime. Homosexuality could be treated in the same way. These two men 0.95

00:50:07.520 are being flagrant in the public square, in the sight of the public, in the sight of minors and

00:50:15.440 children. That's not just a sin, but this is actually a crime, and there's a certain penalty

00:50:21.360 attached to that and if these two men choose to be serial repeat offenders completely ignoring

00:50:27.980 the laws and upping the ante over the course of years then eventually the penalties they

00:50:34.440 progressively increase this is not inhumane this is not harsh this is not unloving this is actually

00:50:42.140 very loving towards younger more vulnerable sector of your population and protecting them

00:50:49.420 from degenerate propaganda

00:50:52.220 that would seek to destroy their lives.

00:50:55.080 Yep.

00:50:55.960 All right, we're going to go to our first commercial break.

00:50:57.620 We'll be right back,

00:50:58.360 and we'll talk about practically on the ground

00:50:59.760 how to push back.

00:51:00.740 All right.

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00:53:28.020 Nearly half of all LGBTQ characters will disappear from TV next season.

00:53:32.680 glad study finds due to series cancellation 61 of transgender individuals characters will also be

00:53:38.820 absent from tv now a lot of what percent 61 those are rookie numbers we got to pump those numbers 0.80

00:53:45.420 it needs to be 99 yeah but 999 yeah but 61 still that is a godsend yeah just in time for uh the

00:53:53.860 conclusion of the final season of stranger things i'm convinced that honestly the guys behind 0.63

00:53:58.900 producing stranger things they probably knew this was in the works they were like look gay

00:54:02.600 doesn't sell anymore and uh so we've got to just end the whole show because we built it on a 0.66

00:54:07.820 foundation the quintessential foundation of gayness and if we don't have gayness and we

00:54:12.360 don't have stranger things show yeah what are stranger things even going to talk about if we

00:54:16.400 can't you know unveil another gay character in every single episode yeah and the point is we've

00:54:21.140 talked about this before culture is really shifting against this since 2015 you can imagine 2017 2018

00:54:27.580 I would say those were the high watermarks. I mean, acceptance for gay marriages, for example, all time highs, 80, 90 percent, even within the Republican Party.

00:54:36.520 But a number of statistics have come out since then. It's been on the decline since about 2020 to 2021.

00:54:42.920 That's support for gay marriage, affirmation that they should have the right to marry, perceptions of that.

00:54:47.600 There's been a lot of negativity. Who could explain why it is that people have begun to view that community negatively?

00:54:54.540 there's very much so a cultural revolution of saying no actually we don't like this we were

00:54:58.760 told the idea hey this is just love they just want to be like normal people and then they looked

00:55:02.800 around and they said well why are all these couples that are like this uh super promiscuous

00:55:07.040 why are all the couples like this uh a lot of times in open marriages why are all these couples

00:55:11.320 like this i was told it is love but but uh all of these seem to be getting divorced i know a number

00:55:16.600 of people from college like oh i'm gay and my husband they were divorced within a year they

00:55:20.960 couldn't keep it together. So there's a widespread cultural pushback going on. But to our point

00:55:25.860 earlier, you've got to codify it. It's not just enough for it to be about 40% stabilized, approve

00:55:31.600 of it, 60% don't. It needs to go all the way. If you're going to get back to the point where the

00:55:37.180 behaviors that make young men homosexual in their behavior, if you're going to get to the point

00:55:42.040 where those behaviors are outlawed, where you can't use propaganda, where the penalty for

00:55:48.320 different acts and different crimes are so stiff and so high that people wouldn't even think of

00:55:55.220 attempting them. It's only when you get to that point that you're going to reverse the trend. And

00:55:58.800 to get to that point, the idea is you don't just need about 55% of people disagree with it. You

00:56:04.800 need 70, 80, 90%. And this message, the one we talked about in the last segment, you're not born 0.99

00:56:10.440 with this. You can change. And there needs to be laws against this. It's not enough in the year of

00:56:16.180 our lord 2025 to say hey look i agree sometimes they go too far we shouldn't have pride parades

00:56:21.580 but at the end of the day if they want to marry eh what's that's the state concern it very much

00:56:27.000 so is you need to be saying those three things hey uh it's not something that you're born with

00:56:31.440 you can change and there needs to be laws against this i don't want to put you on the spot but do

00:56:36.900 you think there's some other words and terms that need to make a comeback as far as stigmatizing it

00:56:42.240 in a powerful way.

00:56:43.160 Well, I will say, I think there's a way of, you know,

00:56:48.040 we need to be careful with our words, right?

00:56:50.260 Power of life and death is in the tongue.

00:56:52.880 And so I'm not saying that, you know,

00:56:54.760 this needs to be a word that you use around your children,

00:56:57.220 you know, or, you know, this Christmas break,

00:56:59.260 you know, with your family, you know,

00:57:00.800 around nieces and nephews, be sure to, you know,

00:57:03.760 to blurt out this word, you know, in every other sentence.

00:57:06.680 So we need to be cautious.

00:57:08.440 But yeah, there is some vernacular that, you know, that probably it probably needs to return that, you know, there's a stigma of like, well, you don't want to be a bigot.

00:57:21.680 You don't want to be unloving.

00:57:23.120 You don't want to, you know, well, how would this make people like no homosexuality is degenerate. 0.97

00:57:28.420 It is bad for the populace. 0.99

00:57:30.880 It's bad for society.

00:57:32.420 It's been incredibly harmful.

00:57:34.860 We've seen a full court press against our own children as the sacrificial lamb in order to 0.96

00:57:42.240 appease older gay men and make them feel better about themselves. It's wicked. It's predatory. 1.00

00:57:49.480 And I think, yeah, it is appropriate for us to be able to call it what it is and say,

00:57:55.080 wait a second, this is perverse. It's wicked. It's faggotry. And it needs to stop.

00:58:02.900 I think that that's okay.

00:58:04.480 Yes, you can use that word on occasion, as I just did, 1.00

00:58:09.120 to say, no, we're not going to tolerate faggotry with our children. 1.00

00:58:14.980 Cut it out. Stop it. 1.00

00:58:17.280 Say Christ is Lord. Stop it.

00:58:19.920 Yeah, I do think that we can use some strong language.

00:58:24.080 But again, I don't want it to become so common

00:58:28.180 that it's just, you know, it's a constant, flippant, you know, I don't want the trivializing

00:58:35.800 of language, but strong language, you use it and you mean it, and it's on occasion. Yeah,

00:58:45.020 I don't think that it's a sin to say faggot in its proper context. I think you can be a Christian 0.99

00:58:53.620 who fears the Lord and say, enough is enough. Enough is enough. You've got the San Francisco 1.00

00:58:59.160 gay choir a couple of years ago writing songs. And it was not a joke. They can claim in hindsight,

00:59:04.940 oh, I was just kidding. It's not a joke. We'll convert your children. Now stop it, faggots.

00:59:11.200 No, you will not convert my children. You're degenerates, you're predators, and you're evil. 1.00

00:59:17.520 in the name of Jesus Christ, stop it. Back into the shadows, right? It's not whether but which. 1.00

00:59:25.400 Every society will have a closet, and there will either be Christian children hiding in that 0.99

00:59:30.500 closet with their parents, ostracized from society, or you will have sexual degenerates 0.99

00:59:36.740 in that closet. And so, yes, call me a radical. I think the sexual degenerates are the ones, 0.97

00:59:43.980 the members of society that should be in the closet, not Christian families and their children. 1.00

00:59:49.480 So yes, it is permissible, but I do want to give that pastoral caution of don't just be saying the 1.00

00:59:55.740 F word at Christmas in front of grandma and grandpa and every other sentence. Don't trivialize

01:00:00.480 it. Don't be flippant. But no, I don't think it's a sin. I don't think it's immoral to use that word

01:00:06.260 on occasion in the right context. Yeah. Like notice our wives and children, they're not here.

01:00:11.480 we're not saying it around them i've used the term in public a couple times to refer to people

01:00:15.780 literally meeting that description and it wasn't in the family vehicle we're on the way to church

01:00:19.760 dad's driving down main street he's looking he's looking where is someone that i can call this

01:00:23.600 no uh judiciously the right time egregious public displays around other men hey this needs to stop

01:00:30.400 using the context understanding where you are and saying i think this is actually the right time for

01:00:35.680 it disgusts me i think that this is abominable and i'm going to call it what it is and guys that

01:00:41.240 has a huge impact on what people feel comfortable displaying in public we watched this in georgetown

01:00:47.540 as the supreme court struck down roe v wade when at first the news came out the supreme court's

01:00:53.620 going to overturn it and borscht rights are going to go away i mean you remember joel people came

01:00:57.620 out in droves they had the pink hats that symbolized nasty things they had signs you know

01:01:02.800 all the the women of both sexes they made their way out publicly honking horn shouting on the 0.95

01:01:08.440 corner we were out there as well we were preaching gospel we were singing hymns we were singing

01:01:12.460 psalms but if i'm honest in the last three years since that's been overturned i haven't noticed

01:01:17.580 any efforts like that women's march was this huge thing during the first trump administration we're

01:01:24.040 not going to let them take our rights away we're not going to let them take abortion away over a

01:01:27.860 million women i think showed up to that march they can't get 15 people to stand on a corner at this 0.97

01:01:33.120 point there's nothing that motivates women in america like uh fighting for the right to murder 0.99

01:01:38.900 their children yeah and so then pretty sad but that's that's america they're losing their energy

01:01:45.660 is yeah they are whether it be abortion advocates whether it be lgbtq advocates like they're getting

01:01:50.560 tired uh the there's a city near us i won't give away the details of what it is there's a city near

01:01:55.480 us that holds a pride celebration every year every year they come out of the woodwork uh

01:02:01.120 And they celebrate it downtown in the public square. 0.73

01:02:04.520 Well, they're getting so frustrated because a lot of Christians,

01:02:08.080 fellow churches that we have in the area, they're coming out,

01:02:10.120 they're preaching, they're singing songs,

01:02:11.940 that they're getting to the point now where they're trying to rent indoor facilities 0.90

01:02:14.620 and very carefully screen against Christians that would be willing to come in and preach. 1.00

01:02:19.500 And it was pretty awesome this year. 0.96

01:02:21.080 We had a group of people on their own.

01:02:22.880 They came in and they disrupted it.

01:02:25.460 They were furious.

01:02:26.860 And you had more than one person in this community saying,

01:02:29.340 we're exhausted there used to be a time where we could hold on the town square pride celebration

01:02:35.620 we could get out there and people loved us we would be sponsored by this brewery and that brewery

01:02:40.560 and this taco shop and and it was all love that's ended and that's ended in part because of you

01:02:46.080 patriot you got out there and you said you called the mayor you called the town you went to your

01:02:50.880 city council meeting you stopped shopping at that brewery that's old pride merch for june

01:02:54.980 you judiciously in the right time said this behavior is so disgusting uh here's a great

01:03:00.600 term for it that needs to come back you did that the last five years that pushback has resulted

01:03:05.140 tangibly in the decrease of support for gay marriage and so what we're saying is finish

01:03:11.840 the job press in we've got them on the ropes yeah well said amen all right okay that's it right

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01:10:20.340 All right.

01:10:21.780 Hopping right into the super chats.

01:10:23.520 Dapper Dan sent a super chat. 0.99

01:10:25.140 He said, blackpilling is literally gay. 0.97

01:10:27.120 It's the assumption that behavior is immutable. 1.00

01:10:30.380 So true, King.

01:10:31.240 Yeah.

01:10:31.600 Yeah.

01:10:32.020 Well said.

01:10:33.560 Jerd sent a $2 super chat.

01:10:35.980 he said drop a coin in the hat for pastor saying it you said it though you said but you said that

01:10:42.080 but you said it oh man uh t weller 1776 he gave us a five dollar super chat just one word not even

01:10:52.980 one word one letter w w again in reference to w's are not just in the chat today w's are in the

01:11:00.920 super chats today isaac 556 by 45 that's a great reference for the gun guys out there said christ

01:11:08.120 is king beautiful amen these were the simplest super chats we have we got one more though and i

01:11:13.520 love it oh okay we got one more is it a doozy uh no it's a good one it's a good question all right

01:11:18.160 here we go relevant it's a little bit of a black pill all right zach kohlberg sent in a super chat

01:11:22.040 he said this the supreme court rejected oral arguments against a bergerfeld versus hodges i

01:11:26.740 was hoping it would be overturned but not yet question mark if not now when i was looking

01:11:31.200 forward to seeing this law trash 10 years so what he's referencing we did a short video on this 0.97

01:11:35.800 when it got scheduled for a hearing the kentucky i believe kentucky clerk uh it's a woman who

01:11:43.000 refused to file refused to certify a number of gay marriages she said this went against my

01:11:48.180 religious convictions and she's the only one because she was actually prosecuted for i think

01:11:53.040 She was sacked with a number of fines and at one point might have even gone to jail.

01:11:56.740 She had standing to appeal to the Supreme Court and to say, Obergefell versus Hodges,

01:12:01.340 that decision violated my First Amendment rights as far as the freedom of religion.

01:12:06.540 When it comes to the law, you have to have standing.

01:12:08.560 I can't just, I could, but I wouldn't get very far and say, gay people existing in my 0.99

01:12:12.920 town have oppressed me in my religion, and so I need Obergefell to overturn it. 0.95

01:12:16.740 You need actual standing to say, you need to revisit this precedent.

01:12:19.940 This is violating my religious liberty.

01:12:22.540 And so Kim Davis, this clerk, again, I think from Kentucky, she went to the Supreme Court, got all the way up there and requested them to hear her case that she was persecuted for not obliging Obergefell versus Hodges, asking the Supreme Court to revisit and overturn it.

01:12:37.140 And we know at least two Supreme Court justices, Clarence Thomas, God bless him, he wrote in relation to Roe that the precedent established in Obergefell needs to be revisited.

01:12:46.120 And I think there was one other, I forget what he said in what context, but he also expressed openness to this as well.

01:12:51.580 So with your kind of conservative-leaning court that we have right now, I think it's 5, is it 5-4?

01:12:58.100 Or is it 6-3, the balance?

01:13:01.160 Oh, what's necessary?

01:13:02.840 Not what's necessary, but the balance we have right now.

01:13:05.620 It's because some of these judges, Roberts, Amy Comey Barrett, they're not that reliable.

01:13:12.120 So 5-4, 6-3, whatever it is, it's not great.

01:13:15.900 But the hope was it would be enough that they would agree to hear the case and eventually overturn it.

01:13:19.660 That did not happen.

01:13:20.540 they decline to actually hear the case in full court. They decline, I think it's over 90% of

01:13:24.680 cases in a given year. So it's one of those disappointed, but not surprised. And 10 years,

01:13:30.420 that's honestly probably a good estimation. I think public support for it would have to fall

01:13:33.900 below 20%. You would have to get a lot more litigation going. And the Supreme Court is also

01:13:38.300 going to look for the right case to take. So there's different cases where you could rule in

01:13:42.980 someone's favor, but it's not going to actually go as far as you would want to. You'd have to

01:13:45.980 grant them some type of narrow relief versus the broader repealing of a given decision like a

01:13:51.580 burger fell so in this the united the supreme court could have looked at and said we want to

01:13:55.420 overturn this at least this conservative judges conservative judges we want to overturn this

01:14:00.140 we think it can happen but this case if we do it the wrong way or we do it too narrowly it's not

01:14:06.320 going to have the effect that we want so the white pill hopefully is um they want to do it this just

01:14:11.260 wasn't the right case to take uh same thing with roe v wade is taking the right appeal with the

01:14:16.080 right case requesting the right relief to actually get to the point where hey roe v wade we're going

01:14:20.860 to render that uh badly decided the woman does not have a right to an abortion under the 14th

01:14:25.500 14th amendment which protects her privacy right so yeah i'm not gonna lie too but when you first

01:14:31.340 started reading the super chat i was you know i was like i was i thought it was going to be a white

01:14:35.260 pill it's like the supreme court rejected oral arguments against tuberculosis

01:14:41.580 at first i was like chad are we back we got them uh and then i read on and i realized yeah it's

01:14:49.240 not going to happen not yet um but you're right i think uh it's something that by god's grace

01:14:54.040 could happen in the future and um yeah we want righteousness to be done but we also want it to

01:15:00.220 be done effectively um we don't want it just to you know like hey this was based you know and

01:15:06.440 it immediately gets you know shut down in three months you know we we want things that uh that

01:15:12.540 are done um effectively and in a way that uh where there's lasting effects and so um hopefully the

01:15:20.300 the right case will come across their table and it'll be taken up but in order for that to happen

01:15:25.560 it's probably, you're probably right. Um, this is something that, you know, we don't always

01:15:30.320 recognize, but there's a truth. I, there's a truth on both sides of the equation. Like on the one

01:15:35.920 hand, um, laws actually do shape the people's conscience. On the other hand, um, the will of

01:15:43.140 the people ultimately gives way, you know, paves the road for laws. And so, um, so there's a sense

01:15:50.500 in which, you know, Obergefell in the first place was because, you know, the will of the people.

01:15:56.720 There was a changing sentiment among the populace that was more gay accepting, gay affirming,

01:16:03.820 you know, and that led to a certain law. And then, you know, Obergefell with that law, you know,

01:16:08.160 being in place, that gave way to even more acceptance and more affirmation. And then that

01:16:13.240 was too much. And it, you know, reached a fever pitch where a lot of people started experiencing

01:16:18.660 gay fatigue and started pushing back and so now kind of the winds have to shift a little bit more

01:16:24.440 until uh that law can be righted and um i think i i'm hopeful i'm still hopeful i think that it

01:16:31.160 can happen and uh you know like what we shared you know news stories like um the one that we

01:16:37.680 shared on today's stream where nearly half of all lgbtq plus characters will disappear from tv next

01:16:43.540 season um that's that's uh hopeful and uh and so as there's more shifts like that from the populace

01:16:51.080 and then eventually uh that will probably uh find its way into uh the supreme court and um and where

01:16:59.340 they have the backing the support to uh to make certain decisions but it's probably just going to

01:17:04.240 require more time uh zach followed up with a super chat and said describe each pill their colors and

01:17:08.860 what they mean these terms are new to me sorry guys oh okay it's not terminally online like us

01:17:13.380 yeah god bless you zach you have a life good for you so um it's just it's a reference from

01:17:18.300 the matrix movie morpheus you know he holds out his hand to neo um keanu reeves character with

01:17:24.600 a red pill and a blue pill and gives him a choice and if he took the blue pill then he would like 0.91

01:17:30.140 go back to sleep and forget that this experience ever happened and be oblivious and ignorant uh to 0.96

01:17:37.100 the matrix and be able to just live in, you know, um, his ignorant bliss. So the blue pill would 0.98

01:17:43.100 represent, um, not being awake, not, not, um, not being privy to what's really going on in the world

01:17:51.960 and those kinds of things being a normie, um, red pill. So when people say red pill, it's, um,

01:17:59.000 it's, you know, come to mean it's, it's had an evolution at first. It was kind of in the,

01:18:02.940 the masculine you know um uh manhood um streams of the internet uh but at this point it's it now

01:18:11.320 has more of a catch-all meaning um so red pill just means you know you're awake uh when it comes

01:18:17.900 to you know like the the the vices of the day so like awake to feminism that's like the the

01:18:24.680 masculine red pill scene but also uh you you know people use that to say you're awake uh and privy

01:18:31.120 to Israel and many of its negative influences, you know, so you can be red-pilled on the Israel 0.59

01:18:39.600 question, red-pilled about feminism, red-pilled about all the race, you know, propaganda that

01:18:48.380 we've experienced, DEI, BLM, those kinds of things. So blue pill, you're asleep, you don't know what's

01:18:54.400 going on. Red pill, you're awake. White pill means you're awake and hopeful, that, you know,

01:19:00.620 you're awake to the, uh, the vile, you know, uh, vices of the day, but hopeful, um, for,

01:19:06.860 for positive change and black pill means, yeah, you know, you're red pilled, you're awake,

01:19:12.400 you're conscious, you're aware, uh, but you're also, you know, just doom scrolling and, uh,

01:19:17.800 feel like it's kind of like Theoden, uh, Theoden, King Theoden of, um, Rohan and the Lord of the

01:19:23.440 Rings, where he finally wakes up out of his, you know, the spell that he was under, where he was

01:19:28.980 literally in this stupor under saruman the the white evil wizard um and so now he's he's red

01:19:35.600 pilled he's aware but he's also black pilled and he's like you know what what can men do against 0.91

01:19:40.960 such evil you know that he knows that they're about to be attacked by you know forces that are

01:19:45.640 are far stronger and far larger than theirs um so he's red pilled but he's also black pilled so

01:19:51.400 anyways blue pill go back to sleep red pill wake up see the evil around us and know what's going on

01:19:57.920 white pill is, is kind of the white pill and black pill are subcategories of the red pills.

01:20:03.060 So I'm awake. I've taken the red pill, but I'm also white pilled. I'm hopeful. Um, or I've taken

01:20:07.820 the red pill. I'm awake, but I'm black pilled. I'm pessimistic. That's, that's pretty much your

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The NXR Podcast - December 08, 2025

THE LIVESTREAM - Conservatism’s Long Coming Reckoning With Homosexuality

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