In the past six months, we ve watched prominent intellectuals, professors, journalists, and even former allies of the conservative movement lose jobs or platforms simply for questioning whether the United States relationship with Israel is wise or even Christian. Not because they denied Israel s right to exist, not because they justified Hamas, but because they dared to ask whether endless, unquestioned allegiance to a foreign nation is compatible with America first. Meanwhile, public opinion is shifting. Support for Israel is at a generational low, especially among younger Americans. Something is changing. But what exactly? Is it just fatigue, another weary chapter in a long, complex Middle East drama we no longer want to fund? Or is it something deeper, a theological reformation? And is it possible to call for clarity without fueling further division?
00:09:54.660telling us that he was mentally fit when he wasn't.
00:09:56.840And I guess the Bidens aren't that great.
00:09:59.500and uh and they deceived the democrat that's the the poor precious innocent democrat party
00:10:04.900has been hoodwinked by the bidens and we had no idea and maybe that actually was uh hunter biden's
00:10:10.920crack cocaine in the white house you know like oh my goodness the bidens are terrible we will not0.57
00:10:15.860tolerate uh this kind of behavior and corruption and lies in our party and so we're getting rid
00:10:21.320of them and so my point is you just keep on going so all that said um my first prediction about a
00:10:27.640week or two ago, I said, I think we could see a major split between Trump and Netanyahu,
00:10:35.500not because Trump is not a Zionist, not because he's, you know, for any ideological reason or0.60
00:10:42.300genuine convictions, but just for a petty personal, just because Netanyahu is full of himself and will
00:10:48.900almost inevitably personally offend Trump. And Trump won't have it because that's just the type
00:10:55.080person that trump is so nailed that that said if you think all right america is finally going to be
00:11:01.300disentangled from israel right um my prediction i'm making another prediction now um netanyahu
00:11:08.400will be just like joe biden he'll be the next jonah and so what the democrats would did with
00:11:13.740with a sleepy joe um israel will do with netanyahu if uh if trump and netanyahu if that relationship
00:11:21.220doesn't mend, that could also happen, but if it doesn't mend, then what we'll see in the coming
00:11:25.780weeks or months, my prediction is sometime probably this year, we'll see Israel say, yep, you know
00:11:30.980what, he really was boastful, arrogant, you know, he was rude, and comes to find out we found some,
00:11:37.420you know, discrepancies and inconsistencies and some signs of corruption, and we, the nation of
00:11:44.720Israel and Israeli intelligence and Israeli political leaders, we do not tolerate subversion.
00:11:53.240We do not tolerate corruption when it comes to political leaders, and we're standing by our
00:12:00.500principles as a country and as a nation, and we're removing Netanyahu so that we can once again
00:12:06.600be the greatest ally of the United States. It wouldn't be hard to do that. I've seen
00:12:11.680a number of reports um in fact i didn't include this clip today but um even one of the guys that's
00:12:18.700in one of the clips today has talks about the fact that netanyahu has been to israel kind of
00:12:25.640what biden and the democrats were to the u.s there's a lot of disfavorability towards netanyahu
00:12:30.440already in israel a lot and he's seen as a bully he's seen as just going out doing his own thing
00:12:35.880it would not be hard for this to be a tipping point for israel to uh to just move him aside
00:12:41.040yeah absolutely yeah no i've heard that too that that's part of why i feel confident in that
00:12:44.880prediction is not just that i think it would work for trump or it work for americans but i've i've
00:12:50.440literally heard from people yeah um in israel who are more conservative um say yeah we don't like
00:12:56.720them either israel doesn't really like them yeah yeah well that leads us to what we want to talk
00:13:01.980about today so over the weekend the story broke and it was small like i had a hard time finding
00:13:06.220U.S. news picking up the story until today, which was after I had already sent the information to
00:13:11.620Nathan. So today it's on the New York Times and all over. But over the weekend, it was on Twitter
00:13:15.160and it was on Middle Eastern news agencies. So the news that was breaking over the weekend was that
00:13:23.140things are on the outs between Netanyahu and Trump, that they are, that Trump in particular is upset
00:13:29.020with Netanyahu and in particular, the idea that he has to clear everything that he does in the
00:13:34.200Middle East with Netanyahu first. So let's just show a couple of these stories. I think it's
00:13:38.940interesting in particular, well, I'll get there in a minute, but Nate, let's go ahead and look
00:13:43.700at image number one. This is kind of the first place that maybe some people saw it. It was this
00:13:48.420Twitter post, and I'm not going to read the whole thing, but just breaking the friendship between
00:13:52.600Trump and Netanyahu is over. And it was reported by Israeli army radio that president Trump had
00:13:58.920decided to cut contact with netanyahu this is especially important because trump has um i
00:14:04.860believe a trip to the middle east um maybe it's this week now because it was saying last week or
00:14:09.860maybe it's even next week and the reports are that with his traveling to the middle east to negotiate
00:14:15.400a whole bunch of things um he is cutting netanyahu out of that process he's not going to be running
00:14:20.700things through him or even by him he's just going to do his own negotiating so that's kind of where
00:14:25.860at least I saw it break. Nate, let's go to the next image. This was from the New Israel Times.
00:14:33.980So there's just a headline, and there's a story below that report. Trump is, quote,
00:14:37.760disappointed with Netanyahu and will continue Middle East policy and objectives without Israel.
00:14:44.900So, and then this next one, Nate, graph number three, is the one that I really find interesting
00:14:50.160because this is Senator, not Senator, he's, what is it called? Ambassador, thank you. Ambassador
00:14:59.320Mike Huckabee, who is a huge Israel fan, right? Like, and he's been a prominent Christian in
00:15:06.300politics for a long time, but very Zionist, very pro-Israel. And he said this, Huckabee says that
00:15:13.020the U.S. is not required, quote, not required to get permission from Israel to cut a deal with the0.99
00:15:18.400hooties. And so when you've got Mike Huckabee, who was appointed as the ambassador to Israel0.98
00:15:24.660because he is very, very pro-Israel, and he's saying, look, guys, we don't have to run everything
00:15:31.300through them. We can do our own dealing in the Middle East. That to me, as far as the mood shift
00:15:37.280in the country, is a bigger deal than just Trump having a personal grievance. Yeah, that's exactly
00:15:42.560what I'm, yeah, I'm glad you pointed that out. That's more, and that gives me some hope, and
00:15:46.500And actually, I want to be careful here, not white pill too hard because, you know, the we're so back moments set you up for massive disappointment when you inevitably come to the we're so over moments.
00:15:57.540But that does give me some hope that it's beyond just, you know, Trump and, you know, just personally offended by Netanyahu and going around him.
00:16:05.080But all the Israel, you know, American relations still remain the same.
00:16:09.120But if you have other guys beyond just Trump and other guys who historically have been very, very pro-Israel, and they're not just talking about Netanyahu, but they're saying just in general, we do not report to Israel.0.86
00:20:13.420is not just the accessibility of content
00:20:17.620that is not flattering towards Israel,
00:20:19.800But I also think Israel's reaction to October 7th is a big factor because I think initially it was, I mean, everyone, you know, October 7th happened and a lot of people were, you know, Israel flags were, you know, prevalent.
00:20:34.940and everybody's you know we we love israel we love israel how dare you do this to israel
00:20:40.360um but now that you know we've got some time under our belt and more and more people have
00:20:45.400seen the headlines and how israel has chosen to respond and seeing you know pictures of dead babies
00:20:51.220you know being pulled out of rubble and yeah um you know and then one of the things that hurts
00:20:56.680you know support for israel is the guys who support israel i mean you've got guys online
00:21:03.100like i can think of a few of them like who are like literally without being hyperbolic that they
00:21:08.400um this is a paraphrase but but it's not an exaggeration this is this is the sentiment of
00:21:14.500what some of these guys i see online they're like i don't care how many dead babies it takes0.99
00:21:19.020how many corpses you know of women or uh whatever it takes kill them all level them destroy like and0.98
00:21:27.940you're like oh my goodness dude just take a chill pill like i've never seen seriously in my lifetime0.98
00:21:35.080i've never seen the bloodlust that i have seen for supporters of israel not even the israelis
00:21:41.500themselves but americans right americans who are zionists who support israel i mean find you
00:21:48.680find you some like you talk about like i don't i think nero would blush emperor nero i think you
00:21:57.280know like i think hitler would be he'd be like guys this is extreme you know like like you you0.58
00:22:02.200find uh the average american zionist and and the excitement they feel about dead palestinian babies
00:22:10.320you find like go go and look at you know attila the hun or go and look like those guys seem more
00:22:16.540compassionate than the average american zionist when he's talking about dead babies in palestine
00:22:22.760it is and so i i'm just saying i mean i don't know about the average but maybe not some there
00:22:28.380were some notable this is a many such cases kind of scenario yeah so maybe not average that's
00:22:34.200probably a little too far but not one or two yeah and and not just this is not just from anonymous
00:22:39.720that's with 47 followers i'm talking i'm talking major accounts face behind the account um doing
00:22:47.840not just tweeting but then they get you know like they get a lot of pushback understandably so
00:22:53.380because they're talking i mean they're like we love dead babies in palestine and then they're
00:22:58.360doing videos doubling down like yes i said what i meant and i meant what i said a dead baby in
00:23:04.640palestine we need it um and and so i i my point is that's the sharpest decline in sympathies
00:23:12.400towards israel of any you know year to year one in one year period 24 to 25 and i think that's
00:23:20.380probably got something to do with it because i think israel has in many ways um attempted to
00:23:28.020use october 7th as the final justification yeah to you know to finally go and just and just level
00:23:36.280anybody that they don't like well i you know i'll give credit because i don't i don't i don't want
00:23:42.040of steal the idea i was listening to knowles on the way in and he brought up the comment that trump
00:23:46.400made after he won the election in november ish and um his comment was basically he was addressing
00:23:55.140netanyahu but not to him it was a public um you know press conference and he said israel
00:24:01.900do what you need to do because when i get in i'm going to end the war and knowles point today was
00:24:09.160looking at some of this stuff and some of the way even trump um you know has made comments about i
00:24:14.560wouldn't have given you 3.5 billion you got a much better deal for my predecessors than for me
00:24:18.300his point was trump doesn't want any fighting like that's kind of core to who he is and his
00:24:25.940comment back then was if you're going to end this thing the way you want to you better have done it
00:24:32.880before i get in because once i get in you're going to end it the way i want you to right um which i
00:24:37.840thought you know was it was an interesting point but your your comment joel last thing i'll say
00:24:42.100here and then we'll go to our break your comment about the the twitter and the videos about the
00:24:48.360dead babies in uh in palestine goes to prove the point that we've been starting to make and have
00:24:54.940made a couple times on this show every single person understands and and advocates for something0.64
00:25:02.160like christian nationalism the baptist just wants it over alcohol and carpet colors right right every
00:25:07.240single person understands imprecatory songs yep it just is we can't have that feeling for our own
00:25:13.640people right it can only be all the things that we're advocating for we all actually it's not
00:25:19.560even that we don't understand it we do understand we do we've just been told it has to be placed
00:25:24.460in the wrong direction right no you're absolutely right i mean and you see i mean that that principle
00:25:31.480is demonstrated for us almost on a daily basis online,
00:27:22.700apparently according to some baptists is um uh that that the the highest allegiance and call
00:27:30.840of the baptist is to ensure the worship of false gods right you know across the street next door
00:27:37.080and um and so you know so it's like this is uh inhumane this is extreme this is hate-filled
00:27:43.920rhetoric um but that's when a christian nationalist who loves his country and wants to see a christian
00:27:49.960that's when he's talking that's the kind of response you're going to get right but when um
00:27:54.180but when israel uh that is not christian it worships a false god when when all of a sudden
00:28:02.160there's some kind of injustice done to them then the same guys who say you can't have a christian
00:28:08.060nation um you can't um you can't suppress enemies you can't do that like then immediately they're
00:28:14.400like uh turn it to glass level every building kill every person and it's i mean it it is uh
00:28:21.940it's a sight to behold the last two years for me just looking at the rhetoric and the discourse
00:28:27.240online from christians from christians the way they speak about israel um i mean guys you know
00:28:35.940out there who are listening if you're single find you a woman that loves the lord and loves you
00:28:42.340the way that owen strong loves israel i mean my goodness i get like a wife of that caliber that
00:28:49.380fidelity um who can find i don't know if it even exists but i like i've never seen such allegiance
00:28:55.360right and i've also never seen such in the opposite direction such hatred yeah such vitriol
00:29:01.000such um and and so you're exactly right michael that uh we are we are totally fine with friend
00:29:07.900enemy distinctions yep we're fine with that framing we're fine with um with um even extreme
00:29:14.960measures uh we're fine with um all these things that we say well that's not christian or that's
00:29:20.660not american or that's not baptist really we're fine with all those things times 10 um we're just
00:29:27.700not fine with those things if they're to the benefit of the prosperity the well-being and
00:29:33.100blessing of america christianity right um white people um that like that's when that's when it
00:29:42.860becomes um terrible terrible and just um but if it's to the benefit of another country besides
00:29:50.080our own another religion besides our own another people besides our own then it's it's great that's
00:29:58.000kind of what i've learned over the last two years yeah yeah okay let's hit our first commercial break
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00:31:37.880All right. So I was doing some thinking over the last couple of days. And in particular, I saw
00:31:43.260a study from pew research center and this was from the end of 2024 so i think december of 2024
00:31:50.020so not that long ago and it was talking about the social media patterns and and which social
00:31:57.160media platforms are used the most and it broke it down by age and demographic and nathan i'm just
00:32:02.360now realizing that um i didn't send this to you so you guys have to take my word for it but um
00:32:07.340And what was really interesting to me was that X was one of the lowest used social media platforms in America, even when broken down by age group.
00:32:23.380It's more popular, a young 18 to 30 year olds, but then it is 18 to 80 year olds.
00:32:32.540right but still even when you only look at 18 to 30 year olds it's still one of the lower
00:32:37.740used social media platforms youtube facebook um snapchat was up there still amazingly
00:32:45.460um instagram of course some of the other ones x was actually pretty low like like less than 30
00:32:53.540percent um even for the 18 about 35 18 to 30 year olds are on x okay so my point is this
00:33:01.860i'm assuming our average listener is on x we broadcast on x a lot of the discussion about
00:33:08.620israel and zionism and all of those things is happening on x right and ons and and and we we
00:33:16.260tell ourselves that x is the public square yeah the reality is there are a majority of a vast
00:33:23.780majority of americans who don't have an x account and those who use social media aren't necessarily
00:33:28.420using x right they're using other ones so the question that i want to explore here for a little
00:33:33.640while with some of these clips is are are we going not in the right direction with the israel question
00:33:41.040but are we making the headway that we think we are are people tired like nationally are people
00:33:46.100just getting tired of the discussion are they joining the discussion are they saying that this
00:33:50.600discussion is too polarized and they can't actually even have a normal conversation with
00:33:56.240someone about it, because as soon as they bring it up, it's either I hate your position or I love
00:34:00.440your position. So what I want to do, Joel, is play some clips from a couple of different podcasts
00:34:05.220that have recently talked about this issue. And each of them, each of the podcasts kind of has
00:34:10.640a different, like, I'm just tired of the topic, or I can't even have a good discussion because
00:34:14.680every time I do, I get yelled at, or, you know, maybe we're not going hard enough into this
00:34:19.200question. Right. Okay. So really interesting, but three, and so for the record, I'm not saying
00:34:25.140that we're agreeing with these three different kind of perspectives on the Israel discussion.
00:34:29.780I just want us to be aware that there are different perspectives on the Israel question,
00:34:34.240even kind of on the right, and see what lessons we can take from that.
00:34:38.420Okay, so this first series of clips is from Tim Pool, and he was interviewing Myron Gaines,
00:34:45.880who, as I understand it, immigrated from Canada and is now a U.S. citizen, but he is a second
00:34:52.960generation maybe somali uh but definitely a muslim okay yeah um and i'm familiar with him
00:34:59.100i've seen some of his stuff and so on the show he is obviously uh pleading the case of the
00:35:05.980palestinians in the mid in the middle east and he is very very i mean he would say a lot of things
00:35:11.340that we would say you know about israel's outsized influence on the u.s and tim pool is going to
00:35:16.520acknowledge those things but he tim pool is going to just say it's not so much anti-israel for me
00:35:21.840it's America first for me and it would be I think very similar to maybe what Trump would say
00:35:26.220okay okay so let's take a look here um there's there's several clips we're gonna try and play
00:35:31.040them somewhat quickly but we do have to pause between them just to break it up and things like
00:35:34.800that so Nate let's roll the first clip here he says my parents were immigrants my parents fought
00:35:40.100hard to come to this country I understand what they want and why they want it I'm gonna fight
00:35:45.520for those values well I was born in America with multiple generations going back hundreds of years0.97
00:35:51.380save my grandmother who came from Korea. I have all of these family members coming hundreds of
00:35:56.240years who fought in a revolutionary war, who fought in a civil war, and whose moral traditions
00:36:01.340have landed with me. And so what I say is, I understand, Roe, why you want to fight for
00:36:07.200illegal immigrants, but you came to this country, your parents came here, and you are now a citizen,
00:36:14.740you have access to everything we offer you because we are nice, we are good people.0.95
00:36:18.020But when you start advocating for non-citizens, people not from this country, this creates two worldviews that are at odds with each other, and there's no off-ramp.0.99
00:36:28.900People in this country who are saying, if you're not a citizen, so what? You can live here.
00:40:48.240Because I've kind of been done with Tim Pool, to be honest.
00:40:51.020yep um i play him because a lot of people he's the last few days has encouraged me he's the
00:40:55.760number one or two live podcasts on youtube every no yeah he's worth listening to just just getting
00:41:01.500your fingers on the pulse and figuring out what what are you know some of the normie right guys
00:41:06.040okay so we're gonna play this clip i'm gonna give my i guess steel man on it and then i want to get
00:41:11.160your reaction to it so nate let's roll clip two here i'm sorry to interrupt you but like this
00:41:14.960it's a super chat from this dude uh uh blackest path they're saying why are you uh tim you're
00:41:19.800logically inconsistent why are you more likely to be deported for burning an israeli flag than an0.98
00:41:23.620american flag yo i don't care about your retarded obsession with israel yeah it's not shut up you0.99
00:41:29.600israel obsessed morons it's about the trade i don't care i don't care i don't care stop i don't0.99
00:41:34.320care if it's ukraine i don't care if it's israel i don't care if it's afghanistan i don't care where0.99
00:41:37.720you're from i don't care if you're from japan if you're from japan you come to this country
00:41:40.960and they start protesting and declaring that americans should change our behavior for you0.52
00:41:45.500get out and and and you know i gotta be honest when i hear people defending non-citizens coming
00:41:51.960in and trying to dictate american governmental policy they have no right to do this and then0.78
00:41:56.860they say well but it's because israel okay i get it you're obsessed your your brain is rotted from
00:42:01.220your skull because the only thing you think about is israel i care about all the countries that are0.66
00:42:04.760trying to negatively impact the united states that have we've got to deal with venezuela sending
00:42:09.560people from their prisons now i know it's it's it's semantic they're not literally taking people
00:42:14.120lot of prisons, putting them on a bus and saying, go to America. They're releasing them and saying,
00:42:17.360get out of the country, go there instead. We don't want you. And then when they come here,0.98
00:42:21.680Donald Trump says, we want to send these Venezuelan gangs and prisoners, you know,
00:42:25.580former prisoners, cons and criminals back to Venezuela. They say no. So what does he do?
00:42:29.980He cuts a deal with El Salvador. These are criminals from Venezuela. You take them. We0.96
00:42:33.540don't want them. The Democrats then say, we're going to keep them here. And then you super
00:42:37.100chit, but Israel. This is why our country is being screwed over and mercilessly beaten.1.00
00:42:43.260And it's why we're facing these catastrophes that we're facing, OK, because of the myopic view of so many people.1.00
00:42:50.460I do these debates and conversations, and they're focused on one super stupid.1.00
00:42:54.840Let me put it this way. During Occupy Wall Street, one of the most amazing moments was when some guy stood up during the General Assembly and he screamed out, what is wrong with you people?0.99
00:43:06.940The only thing we need to focus on is fracking. It is the center of all of our problems.
00:43:11.560And I thought, my God. There are people that live in bubbles. They only see one thing. That's the only thing they care about me. I got a bubble. I do. It's America. So if it's Venezuela, if it is Ukraine, if it is Russia, Iran, China, Israel or otherwise, and they're negatively impacting us, I'm going to say, stop. I don't want to be involved in this.
00:43:31.580all right so my question is i think a lot of people would probably agree with tim
00:43:38.000they would say you are overly focused on the negatives from israel i'm saying that they would
00:43:45.080say that to us right and there's a whole lot of other ills out there as well right and so
00:43:50.500i think tim would say i'm frustrated because every time we try and make headway we get some guy who
00:43:55.920comes in here and says it's just israel that's the skeleton key and there's other problems right
00:44:01.540Right. Yeah. Well, again, I haven't seen the full context and other things that were being said in that conversation, but that basic principle, if we're just saying, if basically all we're saying is, you know what, dig a little deeper and, you know, there's some extra hate in your heart that you can evenly disperse to other groups.
00:44:22.960you don't have to just hate israel you know you can hate islam as well you know and like uh then
00:44:28.440yeah sure i'm for that like i i am there's there's a lot of things a lot of countries i hate a lot of0.68
00:44:34.580ideologies i hate a lot of false religions i hate and i hate them all so if that if that's the
00:44:39.960argument is like joel like we're concerned that you're just you're hating judaism um in isolation0.67
00:44:46.540um then then that is a concern and i need to you know i'm going to go in prayer and i'm going to
00:44:52.560humbly ask the Lord, Lord, give me more hate so that I have enough, you know, to where I can hate0.95
00:44:57.460Judaism as much as I do without compromising an inch, but be able to hate Islam just as much0.99
00:45:04.900in addition. Now that said, you know, I'm being a little facetious, but not really. And I would1.00
00:45:09.580say by the grace of God, I actually don't need to pray that prayer because I actually already1.00
00:45:14.980hate both Islam and Judaism with a fierce hatred. As David says in the Psalms, do I not hate those?1.00
00:45:21.860he doesn't just say that not just things not just ideas but he says do i not hate those who hate
00:45:28.200you yes i hate them with a perfect hatred or some translations say with a complete hatred um i hate
00:45:36.700the enemies of god i absolutely do wherever they can be found um at the same time because of a whole
00:45:43.120biblical theology in the words of christ i also love the enemies of god so we're called to love
00:45:48.200our enemies and pray for those who persecute us. And I don't think that those two things are at
00:45:52.920odds. I know that it sounds on its face to be a contradiction. It seemingly seems to be a
00:45:58.580paradox. But while we were yet sinners, God demonstrated his love for us in this, that while
00:46:04.740we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. So it's not that God finally loved us enough to send his
00:46:12.100own son to die for us after we had already been made lovely. But no, it's while we were unlovable,
00:46:19.420Jesus died to make us lovable, but only because God pre-loved us. So God loved us while we were
00:46:26.860yet unlovable, and he loved us when we were unlovable enough to send Jesus to make us lovable.
00:46:33.920And so I take the words of Jesus to be the same application as it pertains to us, that I'm called
00:46:40.580to love my enemies, not because they're lovable. I'm called to love my enemies and following,
00:46:46.220emulating the example of Christ. He loved me when I wasn't lovable. So I'm called to genuinely love
00:46:51.340my enemies, and I'm called to pray for those who persecute me. But I talked about this yesterday
00:46:55.980on the Lord's Day a little bit at church, but these things are not at odds. I can love my enemies
00:47:01.360and pray for those who persecute me, and I can do so as I'm walking them hand in hand to the
00:47:08.100guillotine right justice um is not at odds with love and so you can genuinely love someone and
00:47:17.120yet if it's a public enemy and not just sins but those sins which biblically should and must be
00:47:23.800also categorized as crimes uh then if somebody is a a public criminal um and it's something that
00:47:32.080biblically speaking merits the death penalty then that person is an enemy that you love so you preach
00:47:37.380the gospel to them you plead with them that they might repent and come to saving faith in the lord
00:47:42.680jesus christ and you pray for them what are you praying for you're praying for their eternal joy
00:47:47.840because you're praying for their conversion you're praying for their salvation and all the while
00:47:52.340doing this and also in this temporal world and in a civil uh sphere um you're also uh holding court
00:48:01.440and producing evidence that ultimately indicts them
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01:25:42.140so yep um i know that channel i i occasionally watch um nerd roddick's takes on you know pop
01:25:47.820culture so um all right so we are going to jump over to a different podcast we're going to wrap
01:25:53.860up we're not going to be too too long um but this was recently on tucker carlson's show he had brett
01:25:59.060Weinstein on who obviously is a Jew did you listen to that one yep yeah I mean though you know the
01:26:05.720whole thing was him arguing for against the existence of God if you only lasted that long0.75
01:26:10.640you missed the best part because the second half was much more interesting I listened to the whole
01:26:14.660thing okay I thought that the second half was better yeah so um so they're gonna get into there
01:26:20.540was a lot of interesting stuff in there about Israel about Jewish reaction to um perceived
01:26:26.220threats and what that does to the larger discussion about Israel. Brett, at one point,
01:26:32.840I want to be fair to his argument, he said, look, I'm Jewish, but I'm American. I'm not Israeli.
01:26:38.380I'm not really for Israel insofar as, like, I hope that they continue to exist as a country,
01:26:43.520but I'm American. So he throws that out there. But he said something that I thought was really,
01:26:50.180really fascinating, specifically regarding an issue that a lot of us care greatly about,
01:26:54.920And that was the medical freedom movement that came out of COVID, where there was a whole band of doctors and researchers and medical professionals who lost their licenses.
01:27:08.480They were censured and really banded together to form and actually to do the research of how to treat people who had been vaccine injured from the COVID vaccine.
01:27:19.000Like we're really doing a lot of the stuff that the National Health Institute should have been doing.
01:31:18.380You know, I mean, of course I'm allowed to talk about that, but yet somehow it feels
01:31:22.540very dangerous to even raise the question.
01:31:25.220So that pattern results, you know, how big a room can you assemble before you have both sides in that room unable to allow any nuance, right?
01:31:40.020So what happened to the medical freedom movement was just simply the events of October 7th caused people who didn't even necessarily know each other's positions on, you know, events in the Middle East, suddenly to be talking about them and to find each other un-understandable.
01:32:02.180But how did that issue even, I mean, I don't even know all my kids' positions on the Middle East and they're my children and I talk to them every day.
01:32:09.860It's like, it just doesn't occur to me to bring that up out of context.
01:32:29.140It seems to me that the right thing to do is to recognize we have a whole lot of common ground.
01:32:35.160And then there's an issue on which we apparently don't.
01:32:38.100And frankly, what a missed opportunity that a bunch of people who'd been through hell together fighting over, you know, their right to speak the truth about all things COVID, that group of people seems like they would have the tools to navigate other difficult issues.
02:09:27.760with 330 330 to 350 million total population we took in 40 in the last four years right over 10
02:09:36.160percent of your nation's population in less than half of a decade right that is incredible like
02:09:42.940that like there's no way any nation can survive that and so when i say 100 million i'm not saying
02:09:49.560to go back a hundred years i'm i'm just that number for me represents um every every first
02:09:58.980generation immigrant who's who's not so i'm not even saying like i'm to me that's a really moderate
02:10:07.600milquetoast position like i'm not saying i think that i think saying it that way is a little bit
02:10:12.000easier yeah i you know i don't like number one 100 million people that shocks people it does
02:10:16.700shock people um and maybe that does need to shock people yeah but i think saying like first
02:10:21.460generation americans tend to be presented with you cleave to america or america is not the place for
02:10:28.320you yeah yeah and and cleaving to america needs to be it needs to be biblical cleaving clearly
02:10:35.180outlined what does that mean yes because i think a lot of them will not want to do that and you
02:10:40.380know right honestly like maybe you shouldn't want to do that you probably are still more attached
02:10:44.400to your your country your nation of origin yeah yeah so i yeah i think some kind of um
02:10:51.320not allowing dual citizenship for a while i might be honestly i don't know why we do that at all
02:10:58.220i know yeah like i'm just trying to think about like me and you are sitting here me and you are
02:11:02.660we're moderates michael like so me and you are sitting here like some of our followers are like0.68
02:11:07.160gay you know they're listening right now they're like we need west back in michael and joy they're0.78
02:11:13.360getting a little bit lib but like um but but we're we're sitting here thinking like what are the0.75
02:11:18.560humane options what are the non-trail of tears options you know like and so i'm thinking you
02:11:25.300know so i naturally i think of in terms of first options i'm thinking self-deportation like so um
02:11:31.980how many people i don't know like like would shapiro stay if he couldn't if he couldn't have
02:11:37.720dual citizenship yeah i don't know that would be interesting i mean he has said i think he loves
02:11:41.660america yep insofar as it can serve israel but he is like he i think he does love america at some
02:11:48.280level but he has by his own admission he has said like part of his his the way he views his calling
02:11:55.220and his purpose here in america um is to to um to influence conservatives in america in a pro-israel
02:12:04.460direction right because that's his people yeah yeah at the end of the day it's like those are
02:12:09.620my people i don't think anyone should be here if like that's how i would answer the question is
02:12:15.040anyone here in america who when they think um which people are your greatest devotion to
02:12:24.060political who are your people yes like you know and and that being tier there's there's number
02:12:29.740one number two anybody who who's number one is some people other than america yeah shouldn't be
02:12:35.180here yeah they just shouldn't be here like for me i have nowhere to go right i have nowhere else to
02:12:41.040go right and that's the thing like a lot of these people is like oh well that's rude or that's no
02:12:45.200a lot of these people they actually do have places to go right right they really do they can go live
02:12:50.840in israel yeah you know or they can go live in brazil or they can go live in south korea or they
02:12:56.920can go like they actually do have places to go yeah um you and me don't have anywhere to go
02:13:01.920right this the this this is our country right this is the only one we got yep and so i so yeah
02:13:08.240so i'm not trying to be bombastic i'm really not i feel like i'm pretty tame in this episode0.94
02:13:14.500but i think like doing whatever we can to help self-deport 100 million so the illegal immigrants
02:13:21.920you round them right yes and you get them out but but it's more here's the thing that i'm just
02:13:26.560trying to help christians especially understand without without it's like guys i'm not being
02:13:33.860i'm not being hateful towards towards different races or colors or or national like but you as0.98
02:13:40.620christians you have to see uh we need to get every illegal out of the country but beyond that0.99
02:13:46.160it's that's still not enough well it's not it's like when we say we love women by wanting to0.92
02:13:53.900destroy feminism yes because we want them to do what god has created them especially and uniquely
02:13:59.820to do and unless they're like again the caveat that we made earlier there sometimes are legitimate0.98
02:14:05.760reasons for people to be displaced right got it but apart from that like people should be with
02:14:11.880their people yes it is like that it's just better right and we're not going to be you know so i
02:14:20.380don't know we understand that we live in a time in history where there's a lot of movement there's a
02:14:26.700lot of trade like there just are some reality we're not shutting down all global travel right
02:14:31.600like that is going to happen but the ideal and the goal and the aim is you should love your people
02:14:38.420first of all and you should be with your people right right you should love your people and you
02:14:44.040should be with your people yeah i agree as a as a as a general rule yeah and because we've gone so
02:14:49.000far away from that when you move away from something you have to correct you have to correct
02:14:53.660back and sometimes a little bit further yeah and i yeah so that that's the prescription um the
02:15:02.280prediction is i don't i don't think it's gonna i don't think so either i don't think it's gonna
02:15:06.520happen i think we're done like on honestly like i um and people are like well i thought you were
02:15:11.460post-millennial i am post-millennial i think the church will win um christ will win not despite
02:15:18.720a puny weak losing bride but christ will win through his church gradually through human history
02:15:26.580um but america um and i'm not saying the country will end tomorrow or anything but i i think
02:15:33.280something called america will continue well like rome did for a long time yeah i yeah i think it'll
02:15:38.080still you know the united states of america but but um but no i i think it's um it's too late and
02:15:44.040we don't have the will. It's not too late if we have the will, but we don't. The will requires
02:15:50.700a hundred million, a hundred million have to go. They don't have to be hurt. They don't have to be
02:15:56.380harmed. But, but they politely, respectfully, they have, they have to go. And, and we're not
02:16:04.300going to do that. We, we, and I hope, I hope for future generations, for my great, great
02:16:10.800grandchildren i hope that books are written and i hope that people remember this and that it's
02:16:15.400clear because so many things are lost to antiquity you know but i hope it's clear and people remember
02:16:20.700america was once a powerful christian nation and it was destroyed because they didn't want to be
02:16:28.640called racist that's right i want people to know that that is the truth how did it happen how did
02:16:34.180the superpower of the world lose all of its strength i want people to know um in the end0.87
02:16:42.780the greatest nation in human history collapsed because boomers didn't want to be called racist
02:16:51.760that's a major part of it you know it's a major part of it that's not to say that like there's0.91
02:16:59.640no other element but that like we we had a country we had a country and we could have kept it and we
02:17:06.080said nope a hundred million from the four corners of the earth you don't speak english great come on
02:17:12.860in you hate america you hate it come on in um you're beholden to israel and not come on in get
02:17:21.300in here we can't wait for you to come here get in here a million there a million there a million a
02:17:27.520milli a milli a milli a milli milli you know like just and we did it like in and we did it fast in
02:17:32.740like 30 40 years 100 million people and um you just you you do that and there's only one way out
02:17:41.220and it's a iron stomach it's it's uh it's it's like like grit and we don't have it we don't have
02:17:49.440grit so i think we're done um i really do as a country not the church of jesus christ but i
02:17:55.440i think we're done that said um we have so many so much um so much that we've accrued over time
02:18:02.860because of the blessings of god and faithfulness long past at this point but but faithfulness that
02:18:08.340used to be there and accruing blessings i think we can coast for a while so i don't think anything's
02:18:12.520happening tomorrow but i think we're done i'm hopeful though i i think eventually what we'll
02:18:16.820probably get is um succession i think i think america will be broken up we'll probably get
02:18:22.440five or six different countries out of it somewhat like europe yeah i mean it's just a massive land
02:18:27.000mass to just be one country and to stay united for a millennium is kind of a tall task honestly
02:18:33.560it's kind of like wishful thinking to begin with yeah that a country this size not just
02:18:38.920population people but geographically yeah so i think um i think we're on the decline
02:18:45.400i think we probably eventually break up into uh smaller countries and i think a couple of those
02:18:54.600one or two of those um by by the grace of god and because of his kindness and like i will have
02:19:01.240an opportunity to be um distinctly christian great countries and do awesome things um for
02:19:08.140the glory of god in the future so i'm not like i'm not blackmailing i'm not i'm not discouraged0.93
02:19:12.120But I just think, I just can't look the audience in the face and say that these United States, as they currently are, with 100 foreigners in the last 30, 40 years, and even the heritage Americans, full apostasy towards the Lord Jesus Christ.0.96
02:21:17.840You know, and so that like that's, so I'll keep talking, you know, and keep preaching and hope that some people listen and all those kinds of things.
02:21:25.300But for the most part, I think America has made up its mind that it wants to be defeated.