In this episode of the Right Response Ministries podcast, we discuss the impact of the government shutdown, the impact on the economy, and what God has to say about it all. God bless! - Pastor Ken
00:15:33.580And that's the part that's not funded.
00:15:35.840So states and the federal government share 50-50 the cost of administrating the program.
00:15:41.320But when the government shutdown happened, there's no longer any money apportioned to paying for the administrative costs to get the money out there to attempt to prevent fraud, waste, and abuse.
00:15:53.600And until we hit our $41 trillion, $41 trillion, that's what we raised it to back in July with the big, beautiful bill, until we hit our $41 trillion debt ceiling, the money is there.
00:16:03.240But what's going on right now in the shutdown, there's no money to pay, I think it's the USDA, that actually disperses the food, that actually transfers the money.
00:16:12.780Because remember, the states themselves administer it with federal money.
00:16:16.440So the program is so big and so bulky, it costs billions of dollars just to distribute the billions of dollars every single month, and we've run out of money to pay for that.
00:16:25.560There's lots of wastes and abuses to it.0.98
00:16:27.760I do want to pick up on one, though, and it's disability.
00:16:30.360So an individual can't be on SNAP if they're able-bodied, they're not elderly or retired,
00:17:31.800If it exists at all. And you could say, I need food assistance, and I need this assistance
00:17:36.360for the rest of my life. Chronic depression and anxiety are other categories. So forget even
00:17:41.680individuals that aren't working. Forget individuals that are gaming the system. Someone put it up
00:17:46.360there. It's very well known. What people will do is take the cards. So say you spent $3,000 on
00:17:50.660groceries but you have two kids so there's another two to three thousand on it well in they'll sell
00:17:55.220it in the community hey uh you give me uh i'll give you money for this and uh and you can go get
00:18:00.660your hair and your nails done you can go pay for luxury items like this so these things are traded
00:18:04.960around with people that have king jared in the chat he just said adhd whoa i didn't realize that
00:18:10.760i was disabled yeah yeah and so that's just one of the abuses and you're talking about 42 million
00:18:18.520americans as you said in the opening utah is actually one of the lowest uh states i think
00:18:23.160it's like four percent well real quick let's talk about so 42 million americans 42 million
00:18:28.480americans yeah 42 million people okay um but that's that's another thing that um wes if you
00:18:36.320could take just a moment and explain it to the listener um out of these 42 million americans
00:18:41.560and if you're listening you know on on a podcast and not watching uh visually i'm i'm doing uh like
00:18:47.540violent air quotes as i say american the word american um like 42 million but it's it's a
00:18:55.660fairly sizable percentage of these individuals that they they weren't born in america questionably
00:19:02.420not even american citizens so not even paperwork americans much less american americans right can
00:19:07.880you walk us through that at all i'm just going to play this is a one minute clip from rob finnerty
00:19:11.500on newsmax where he does a great job of breaking down with visuals just the scale of the aid we're
00:19:17.160paying actually to foreigners for food and other assistance. Wow. There are 42 million people in
00:19:23.420this country that need food stamps on a weekly basis. And we're saying people deliberately1.00
00:19:29.900instead of Americans, because most of the people that are on food stamps aren't even from this
00:19:35.300country. 45% of Afghanistan immigrants are on food stamps. 42% of Somali immigrants. 34% of
00:19:44.900every immigrant from Iraq, 23 percent of Haitians, 59 percent of all illegal aliens are collecting
00:19:53.760food stamps, meaning that most of the people getting food stamps from the U.S. government
00:19:59.120and the U.S. taxpayer are not even Americans. Think about that. And we didn't know about any
00:20:05.340of this before the government shutdown started. But thanks to Democrats, we can confirm tonight
00:20:10.100that millions of joe biden illegal aliens people who crossed the border when joe was president
00:20:15.560are now collecting food stamps from a program funded by hard-working american taxpayers
00:20:20.580wow so you're working hard you're paying your taxes it's not enough mind you the government
00:20:26.140is still printing money inflating your money away and that money is going to pay for a lot
00:20:32.200a lot a lot of people that are not even americans not just and and some of those people might
00:20:38.220actually merit it um but many of the true americans are actually just you know they're
00:20:45.360making up an excuse not all but but many uh the bible says if you don't work you don't eat that's
00:20:51.220a biblical principle um and so you have already americans abusing the system but then come to
00:20:56.800find out a ton of them aren't even americans they're they're foreigners who aren't even
00:21:01.600citizens and so you're you're literally your government is putting everything the government0.97
00:21:06.360does, you have to realize this, it's all coercion, right? This is not charity, because people will
00:21:10.780say, well, aren't Christians supposed to be charitable? Aren't they supposed to be generous?
00:21:14.780It's not charity when I'm being told to give to someone else at gunpoint. Everything that the
00:21:20.360government does is coercive, right? Everything the government does is ultimately at gunpoint,
00:21:25.340and you might say, that's hyperbole. That's not true. If I say, for these reasons, based off of
00:21:32.060my spiritual theological convictions, I know that this portion of my taxes goes to pay for things0.83
00:21:38.700that are unbiblical, like feeding an able-bodied person who is not willing to work when the Bible
00:21:44.020says, if you don't work, you don't eat. And so based off of that religious conviction,
00:21:47.660I am not going to pay this portion of my taxes. What do you think happens? Well, you get a letter,
00:21:53.120then you get a phone call and you're like, nope, I'm not going to do it. I'm going to hold to my
00:21:56.160conviction. Eventually someone shows up at your house and you say, go away. Eventually they show
00:22:01.040up with guards, right? And you say, oh, I'm not coming out. You can't take me. Eventually, there
00:22:06.600will be a gun pointed at your head. So it's not hyperbole. When I say everything the government0.99
00:22:12.140does, it does it at gunpoint. And I'm not even saying that that's bad so long as the government
00:22:16.980does things that are righteous, right? God actually gave the sword to the government. So the
00:22:23.100government is the only legitimate institution that has a monopoly, a God-given monopoly on
00:22:30.140violence. The government is allowed to bear the sword. But when the government coerces at gunpoint
00:22:36.060things that are directly in contradiction to God's word, then it's tyranny. And you don't have
00:22:42.800the ability to resist that without having a gun eventually down the line. Lots of procedures and
00:22:49.620lots of, you know, this phone call and the letters and this person shows. But eventually it will be
00:22:54.040a gun and eventually you will go to jail if you don't pay for those who are able-bodied but refuse0.91
00:23:01.060to work when the Bible says that they shouldn't eat. And not only that, that's for the American0.79
00:23:06.020side of the equation, but in addition to that, you have to carry Haiti on your back. You have0.86
00:23:10.800to carry Afghanistan on your back. You have to carry Iraq on your back. Non-citizens, not even1.00
00:23:16.780born in our country, some of them that have only been here for weeks or potentially months, and1.00
00:23:22.360you have to carry them on your back. You need to know that you live in a wicked nation, and that
00:23:28.220you are constantly being robbed, and that's just in terms of your taxation. And then you look at
00:23:34.660the other side of the equation, printing money out of thin air, the inflation, which is, you know,
00:23:39.480another form of taxation. So we are in dire straits, and it is difficult for Christians to
00:23:46.060be able to have the wisdom necessary to navigate the corrupt economic system that we currently0.98
00:23:52.680live in so that they can actually obey the scripture that says a good man or a wise man
00:23:58.340leaves an inheritance for his children's children. So at the end of this segment, what I want to do
00:24:02.900is I want to hand it to you, Bill. What do you think about those things? What can we do? And in
00:24:07.880the second segment, we're going to really focus on our guests and giving us even more practical
00:24:13.460wisdom of how to navigate the things that are going on. And, you know, we've done this the
00:24:18.280last couple of times. I can't help myself. I think it's fun. You know, we'll give the disclaimer. We
00:24:23.260could be wrong. We don't have a crystal ball. But I think in the second segment, it would be fun to
00:24:27.880give some predictions of what's going to happen in November. Is the government shutdown going to
00:24:32.420persist? How will that affect the economy? Those kinds of things. So, Bill, everything that Wes
00:24:37.640and I have said, we've got all the data out. We got our video out. We got, you know, all these
00:24:41.180things. Give us, you know, take take five minutes, 10 minutes, whatever you need. Give us a response
00:24:46.020and then we'll go to our first commercial break. Yeah. So, I mean, one thing that sticks out to me
00:24:51.860is just a reminder of it. A lot of these people, you look at the countries that they're coming
00:24:56.060from. These are not people who are coming here and using this aid as a stopgap. And they're
00:25:01.040they're excited to be in this country and they love this country. A lot of these people are the
00:25:04.980same ones we see in these anti-American riots, you know, holding up flags of other countries
00:25:09.800as they take money from people that are working and then they don't want to get a job because
00:25:14.460they don't want to lose those benefits so there's this cycle of somehow we're paying people who hate
00:25:19.200us to be here and and when we accept that i think that is unacceptable it's the definition of
00:25:24.240unacceptable and you're right it's not hyperbole to say that you really do have a gun to your head
00:25:28.980on this and that wouldn't even be charity even if it was because if you can't if you don't have the
00:25:33.260opportunity to make a decision no one could ever call you a generous person if you're forced to
00:25:38.140give everything away. You're not generous, you've just been stolen from. And so that's really, I
00:25:42.600think, the crux of this argument here. And there's, I mean, even just sort of the obvious pieces of
00:25:47.420who this goes to, there's so many workarounds and subsets of these benefits. We talk about,
00:25:52.340like in Washington, there's SNAP, but then there's programs even under SNAP that if you don't qualify
00:25:56.760for SNAP because of things like your immigration status, et cetera, guess what? They're still going
00:26:01.080to take care of you. So this exists throughout the entire country. And it's a methodology that
00:26:08.080creates people who are not self-sustaining, that we are sustaining, that then hate the country
00:26:14.080that they live in. And the only way that they can keep that is if they find some way to pressure or
00:26:18.920push voting initiatives that allow them to have these policies. So there's kind of this thing
00:26:27.400that we saw in the last administration. That's why the borders were wide open. And that's why
00:26:31.300into this administration, people were shocked at how quickly the borders closed. I remember just
00:26:37.660a year ago, they were saying, well, it's not that easy to close down the border to stop and
00:26:41.020great. This is so difficult, such a complicated issue. And here we are, you know, about 12 months
00:26:45.780later. And it's like, oh, this is we've made tremendous progress. It's really halted. And
00:26:49.820the answer is they were putting people in positions to to move that initiative forward.
00:26:54.520And a lot of this damage will be done for years and years to come because they're here and it's
00:26:58.560hard to get rid of them. We've done a tremendous job. You know, I think President Trump's in
00:27:01.760a tremendous job getting rid of some of that. But obviously, a lot of that is going to stick.
00:27:06.240A lot of that is here for the long run. You know, my wife is from Michigan. And so obviously we see
00:27:10.760this in like Dearborn where, I mean, entire parts of a state have been changed and not for the
00:27:15.640better. So I just go back to that, that this is fraud, waste and abuse in a big scale. Improper
00:27:21.120payments represent about 15% of all EBT benefits, meaning that, you know, when they look back,
00:27:28.120they say, oh, maybe we gave that person too much or they shouldn't have got benefits and whatnot.
00:27:31.840historically, those numbers are closer to, you know, one and a half, 2%. So it's not like this
00:27:36.220is a problem that's always existed. This is actually in the scale and sense it is, this is
00:27:41.560a relatively new problem. And I think it speaks to a wider problem. And I'm sure we'll talk more
00:27:47.440about this in the next segment, but it speaks to a wider problem of our entire economic frame,
00:27:54.860right? And, you know, there's different pieces that add into that, you know, social, political,
00:27:58.700etc. But when you break it all down, the debt problem, for instance, we're just kicking the
00:28:03.460can down the road because there's no easy way to solve these problems. And so my thought with all
00:28:08.540of that is we need less government intervention, not more. We need to give people, empower people
00:28:14.060to go out and earn their own money, not to provide for them. I mean, Jesus didn't heal and then tell
00:28:19.960them to continue begging. He'll pick up your mat and walk. I mean, that's kind of the idea here as
00:28:24.380christians i think that we approach this with is that we need to empower people to you know produce
00:28:29.240not empower people to be takers you know as a christian obviously we want to be uh givers not
00:28:34.100takers you know as a as a net net so just some of my my thoughts on that well said uh real quick
00:28:40.540just looking at the chat uh people uh i see they're commenting on president trump and so i just
00:28:46.320want to go on record as saying uh two things number one um president trump some people in the
00:28:51.180chat are saying, well, he's done a lot of good. Yes, he did close the border. This was probably
00:28:56.440in relation to Bill talking about closing the border and those kinds of things. Trump has done
00:29:00.640a lot of good for which I'm grateful. And I want to do my very best as a Christian man to honor
00:29:06.140the scripture by honoring the king. He is, you know, whether you like it or not, for all intents
00:29:12.380and purposes, he would hold that role. You know, Peter in his epistles say, honor the king. So I
00:29:17.940want to honor and respect trump i'm certainly praying for him and i am grateful for a lot of
00:29:22.380good that he did on the flip side um he has closed the door but we have not gotten even close to the
00:29:29.400mass deportations that uh we were promised and as much as i appreciate um a good poster on the
00:29:36.560internet you know with uh homeland security you know posting lord of the ring memes pippin there
00:29:41.440won't be a shire you know and uh the orcs have to go back um i appreciate that as much as the next
00:29:47.720guy probably even more uh but i retweeted uh is it it's not homeland security what is it dhs
00:29:53.500department dhs right so they had like a lord of the rings you know pippin there won't be a shire
00:29:58.580and everyone's like are you kidding me uh why are you blackpilling when the dhs is you know
00:30:04.120posting lord of the rings you know um and so i retweeted and said i appreciate a good post and
00:30:09.780this is a great post. However, could we please actually have some action? And whether you like
00:30:18.940it or not, whether you're MAGA or love Trump, there needs, I think, to be some respect, some
00:30:23.840appreciation. On the flip side, there also needs to be some honesty and some good old-fashioned
00:30:31.160chimping out and admitting that right now we're getting a lot more posting on the internet than0.61
00:30:38.700we're actually getting in terms of deportations. I understand that it took financing, that it takes
00:30:44.020infrastructure, that it takes hiring. It took the big, beautiful bill and $40 trillion in debt and
00:30:48.880all these things. And if all that, as bad as it is, actually lends towards millions have to go back,
00:30:55.600then praise God. But it has not happened yet. There have been self-deportations. I'm grateful
00:31:01.660for that. I think the latest numbers, you know, Trump is now wrapping up his first year of this
00:31:06.240second administration. And I think we're looking at 2, 2.5 million self-deportations and around a
00:31:12.900million deportations. So you're looking at about 3.5. And I would simply respond by saying those
00:31:19.140are rookie numbers. We got to beef those numbers up. So let me add one piece to this. I mentioned
00:31:23.540that a judge has ordered Trump on the food stamp side of things to find a way. The judge's name,
00:31:28.540the U.S. district judge's name, Indiria Talwani. She said the steps involved, so the steps to find
00:31:34.580funding for this involved finding an equitable way of reducing benefits. So not only are foreigners0.99
00:31:39.240getting the majority of this aid, then we elected someone, and one of the byproducts of his policies
00:31:43.320has been a government shutdown in which we're wasting less money. And a foreigner is coming in1.00
00:31:47.860and saying, no, you must find a way, you must find the money, and this will be another example.0.94
00:31:53.360Will Trump say, pound sand, we are not paying this money. It is billions of dollars in administrative
00:31:58.400costs until the government is funded, until Congress, the constitutional way of finding
00:32:03.840a remedy. Until Congress comes up with a remedy, we will not be paying it. Or will a bunch of
00:32:08.620people see their EBT cards loaded up to go buy Diet Coke? I don't know. I'm rooting for Trump
00:32:13.140to make the right choice. But again and again, we've seen up to the year so far, fine, fine,
00:32:19.900we'll do it. Yeah, we've had, I think that's well said. We've had a lot of good things from Trump.
00:32:25.080And I don't want us to not be grateful at all.
00:32:31.340But it is just a fact that although there have been some good things,
00:32:35.820what we have objectively not had thus far is a crossing the Rubicon moment.
00:32:40.920Eventually, if Trump is going to have a lasting legacy,
00:32:45.740he's going to have to cross the Rubicon and say enough is enough.
00:32:48.860the judges, the mayors, the governors, not just a sternly worded tweet. No, armed guards
00:32:58.140throwing them in jail. These are traitors to the United States. Thousands of civil officials0.96
00:33:08.020over the last five, six years have committed treason. They need to be round up and thrown0.97
00:33:14.120in prison. This judge, you are not an American. You don't get round up and thrown in prison.0.97
00:33:18.280you get round up, put on a boat, and sent back. They need to be naturalized and deported. That0.99
00:33:26.300has to happen. And if that doesn't happen, then as much good as Trump is doing, it's still way
00:33:32.760too much bark and not enough bite. He needs to be the American Caesar. He must cross the Rubicon.
00:33:40.940He even tweeted out, I mean, we've got the President of the United States, Napoleon,
00:33:45.040tweeting, right? He who saves his country violates no law. Yes and amen. So let's see it. Let's see
00:33:52.240it. I'm going to call him to account. At the same time, though, I am going to pray that by God's
00:34:00.300grace that he would be that man. Personally, if you're asking me, you know, what's your prediction?
00:34:04.020What do you think? I think that Trump is not that man. I believe that the great man, by the grace
00:34:09.300of God, is coming and that Trump is a precursor, that he's the best president that we've had in
00:34:13.920my lifetime, far none, but that he's still not quite that guy, and that that guy, in God's grace,
00:34:21.300will eventually come, and that Trump will be looked at historically as a precursor for that
00:34:25.220guy. However, there's still three years left to go, and even though that may be my prediction,
00:34:30.680I'm going to pray, love hopes all things, I'm going to pray that God would make Trump half the man
00:34:37.400that my enemies think he is. That's my prayer. Let's go to our commercial break, and we will
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00:39:00.260Well, Bill, last month when we spoke, one of the big things that we focused on was the labor market.
00:39:05.560It can be great if the SPY is at an all-time high, but practically speaking, if people don't have jobs and those earnings are driven by AI, by automation and other things, it doesn't actually practically make your life better.
00:39:16.700I'm going to read some layoff announcements, and I'm going to give it to you.
00:39:19.720And I want to hear if you still think kind of the job numbers.
00:39:22.300We actually don't have the job numbers from October because the government shut down.
00:39:26.780And if I'm correct, the August job numbers, they were revised after our conversation.
00:39:31.160So they were already low, and I believe they got revised downward even further.
00:39:35.300And so job numbers were not looking good.
00:39:37.240Last, the government was putting them out.
00:40:13.780Amazon is still, still was not at all time highs, was like actually down, kind of beaten down from
00:40:19.200where it was in February of this year. I think in February was about $242 was the share price.
00:40:26.500And then it was like basically hovering in this 220 to 227 range for the last month, two months.
00:40:35.600And then they just produced earnings after the bell yesterday. And, and they didn't just pop a
00:40:42.400little bit i think they went up um over 12 it's like 12.6 percent spike uh in after earnings and
00:40:48.620they've held that today so it wasn't just this pop and then immediate sell-off it got in the
00:40:53.000pre-market all the way up this morning in the pre-market all the way up to like uh 200 from
00:40:58.500224 to like 250 250 uh 252 dollars and 50 cents uh share price for amazon uh which is massive and
00:41:07.360has, I think it finished the day around like $246. So holding a good $20 to $25 above its
00:41:18.380previous share price, which is a new all-time high. But my point, the reason why I'm saying
00:41:23.560that is, so couple those two things together, two pieces of information. What I just gave you about
00:41:28.120Amazon in terms of its earnings, right? Its revenue, what it's producing. And then what
00:41:34.280West just gave you in terms of Amazon and its hiring, or the lack thereof. So Amazon reports
00:41:42.000they laid off 30,000 employees, and then Amazon produces a monster earnings report,
00:41:49.480beating all expectations, more profitable than ever before. And I think that that really does,
00:41:56.460right? I know that's just one company, but I really do think that that serves as kind of
00:42:00.700an encapsulation of what's going on in our economy at large right now, that corporations
00:42:09.040are becoming wealthier than ever. And I know that this has been going on for a long time,
00:42:13.820but not to this degree. I think we're now seeing this principle that has been occurring for quite
00:42:22.460some time, but we're seeing it now on steroids. Corporations with more benefits, more wealth,
00:42:29.140more production than ever before. But the average American worker, more displaced,
00:42:37.880more oppressed, poor, can't afford anything. This seems to be where we are. Bill, what do you think?
00:42:48.520Yeah, I think in the AI part of that, because that frames why those layoffs occurred and why
00:42:54.620the stock price jumped so dramatically is that they say we can accomplish the same thing with
00:42:58.60030,000 less workers because a lot of that can be replaced with AI. But I think that's a testament
00:43:04.220to what we've talked about even in previous conversations, which is that AI has some
00:43:10.640potential to do positive things, but it also has the potential to massively reshape every person's
00:43:16.400life in a negative way in this country. Those 30,000 people that lost their jobs are not better
00:43:21.980off, even though Amazon's stock price jumped up. And you look at actually, we are at a point now
00:43:28.060hiring plans are the lowest they've been for this year since 2009. With the exception, I should
00:43:34.460qualify that, with the exception of 2020 with COVID. But we're in a position here where stock
00:43:40.100prices are going through the roof, and that's great. If you've got money in the market, that's
00:43:44.400phenomenal. But at some point, you have to take a look at this and say, does this make sense? Does
00:43:51.320this match to me with what I'm seeing? Companies are laying people off. No one wants to hire,
00:43:56.580but the stock price keeps going up. And there is this disassociation, I want to call it from
00:44:02.920reality between stock price, what people expect things to go to and what they are, because we
00:44:08.580have grown accustomed to, it's just all right, things work out, it's fine. And that's been,
00:44:13.600I mean, that was essentially through COVID in a lot of ways. Immediately, it was pretty quick
00:44:17.900when things jumped back and the market rebounded from the initial cut, said, we'll figure it out.
00:44:21.620But at one point, there comes a reality when the market is so expecting things to not be a problem for people to not have money to spend, to not be able to spend it, but they'll figure it out. We'll print more money. We'll do whatever it might be.
00:44:36.640But at some point, there's a precipice we reach and we fall into that where it's not all right. And we do see companies all of a sudden mis-earnings, mis-earnings, mis-earnings. And no matter how many people they lay off, they can't fix a broken economy, which is what we have right now. But these are Band-Aids.
00:44:52.920Okay, well, we'll find a way to get rid of 30,000 people, and that'll make us a little
00:47:29.640And, you know, so we got our 25 basis point rate cut, but then, you know, Fed Powell came out and the big thing that he said, besides just simply good afternoon and him just seeing his face on a screen, I mean, he really does, he is a destroyer of markets.
00:47:52.000I have to admit, I personally do not appreciate that. I can't wait for him to step down. But in
00:47:58.320addition to that, he also said the big thing that scared people was he said, all right, you got your
00:48:03.84025 basis point and the market is priced in. I think it was pulling at like 85, 86 percent,
00:48:09.900close to 90 percent that people were betting on, you know, another 25 basis point for December.
00:48:16.300And so, you know, you got your September 25 and then October 25, there won't be a rate
00:48:22.160cut in November, but then, you know, in December.
00:54:59.000I think at least not the people that generally I work with.
00:55:02.300Same thing with any of these big market drops.
00:55:04.700I mean, you can look back at 01, the tech bubble.
00:55:07.220And that was even a similar, I think there's some similarities, not exactly the same, but some similarities there to where we are now.
00:55:13.240And you can look at that and say, were you, I'm sure in the moment, people were, man, I really wish I was in X, Y, and Z.
00:55:20.520But then when 2001, the market comes crashing down and they say, you know what? No, I made a pretty logical decision that it seemed like there was a lot of downside in front of me and I wanted to protect that hedge against that. So that was the decision I made.
00:55:34.200And so when I talk to people about this, it's really, to me, and people can make their own
00:55:39.660decisions, but to me, the conversation is not an if, but a when. And for the people generally that
00:55:47.480want to protect savings with metals or whatnot, it usually revolves around, I'd rather be a little
00:55:53.520early than a little late. And that is sort of how I approach this. So there might be a Santa Claus
00:55:59.020rally. December could be a great month in the market. And for someone like myself who's in
00:56:03.900metals and has done very very well in metals i look at that and i smile and wave because i turn
00:56:09.240on the tv you know three months later and you know there's a big market crash and i i also smile and
00:56:14.060wave none of my business doesn't affect me in that in that same way so that that's you know we can
00:56:19.100again we can analyze and guess and whatnot but at the end of the day the chickens come out as you
00:56:23.520said the chickens come home to roost at some point and uh and you know not my problem other people
00:56:29.420can take those gambles. No, you're right. The principle remains the same and the chickens
00:56:34.360eventually come home to roost. That's the principle. But we will analyze and predict for
00:56:39.240fun because it's fun, Bill. We'll do a little bit of that on the side. But the principle is
00:56:43.820absolutely undefeated. Let's talk gold for a second. I want to tell a personal anecdote.
00:56:50.720Um, so I had a close friend who has been a incredible, um, uh, just, uh, supporter, uh,
01:07:11.840We're happy to reach out, send you whatever you're looking for.
01:07:13.980another way you can call 1-800-200-GOLD. You can ask to speak to me directly. If you don't like
01:07:20.080talking to redheads, that's fine. There's other people you can talk to, but across the board,1.00
01:07:24.760really at the end of the day, and I can speak to the client that Joel's referencing there,
01:07:30.000we're here to help people. I mean, this is sort of the vocation that I've put together.
01:07:35.480I've worked in and around ministry in the past and now obviously in a finance-focused role,
01:07:40.540But I see them in a similar vein in that in one, the example that was always given to me, everything we're giving is a blessing from God.
01:07:53.660And so my job then is to make sure that as God's blessing pours down, I'm just keeping the gutters clean so that that can be redistributed to wherever the Lord has that.
01:08:02.760So if that's something, if you're looking at the general state of the world and you're saying, I would rather be a little early, I'd rather be protected now rather than later, I'd rather get into something tangible, you're so welcome and invited to give us a call and speak through if this is something that makes sense for you.
01:08:20.660again there's a url there and i'm sure we'll mention that and then 1-800-200-GOLD
01:08:25.120mention you came of course from from right response just uh so we can uh you know know
01:08:29.600where you're coming from and have an idea but would love to talk to anyone that would like
01:08:33.300information or help on this great so there's a link in the description under the video you can
01:08:37.980use that or 1-800-200-GOLD and uh let them know that right response sent you but also uh ask to
01:08:44.520speak to bill um he's great he's a solid believer um didn't you do your undergrad in biblical studies
01:14:34.560spoken as a true 56-year-old man who is insightful and wise and has done a lot of good. Again,
01:14:41.140super grateful for Tucker Carlson, but also in this instance, completely out of touch,
01:14:46.600completely out of touch. And Nick responded well by saying, look, here's the deal.
01:14:52.200The entire judicial system is against men, right? You get married, your wife can divorce you,
01:14:57.420no-fault divorce. It could be one-sided in many states. You don't even have to agree with it.
01:15:01.540and the judge, the court system will side with her. You will lose your kids. You will lose your
01:15:05.820house. You will lose this. You will lose that. And so we were commenting on that on Wednesday,
01:15:10.560as we did our kind of response video to the Tucker Nick interview. And we said, I said that
01:15:15.540it's likened to Pharaoh, who says to the Israelites, bricks, but no straw. And that's
01:15:22.760kind of where we're at as a society when it comes to men and women. When it comes to men and women,
01:15:28.240we will still kind of echo the patriarchal sentiments of like the man needs to provide,
01:15:35.320he needs to protect, he needs, and I'm talking about conservatives right now. I'm not talking
01:15:39.280about progressives. I'm not talking about gay furries. I'm not talking about that. I'm talking1.00
01:15:42.840about, you know, Big Con, right? Big Con Inc. Conservatives. The conservatives will say, well,
01:15:48.400one of the things that makes us conservative is that we're patriarchal or at least, you know,
01:15:52.060patriarchal-ish. We recognize that men are different than women and men are called to
01:15:56.360provide. They're called to protect. They're called to do all these kinds of things. But there's not
01:16:00.280really an acknowledgment that men still bear under God, this is true, responsibility, but they have
01:16:08.020been robbed of every ounce of authority, right? And I use the example of a police officer. Serve
01:16:14.780and protect. There's the duty, the responsibility. Badge and a gun. There's the corresponding rights
01:16:20.920and authority to carry out the responsibility men today are expected by conservatives to bear the
01:16:28.980same weight of responsibility protect and provide but with very little if any of the corresponding
01:16:36.860authority in order to carry out that responsibility it is the conservative movement today by and large
01:16:43.940is demanding from young men bricks without straw and i think that's what dapper dan is getting to
01:16:49.780And he's saying that conservatives in many ways, they're also, even for young conservative women, they're setting them up for disappointment by telling them that they can expect a man to provide for them and to provide infinite comfort, to provide at a very high level, but to do so how?
01:17:06.360in an economy that has garnered massively male wages by foreigners and, here's the irony,0.61
01:17:16.960hiring women. Because we live in a feminist economy, men make half in terms of actual1.00
01:17:24.640purchasing power, half, and that's generous, the wages that they used to make even just a few1.00
01:17:30.340decades ago because we've said you go get them sweetheart put on the pantsuit boss babe get in
01:17:37.880the ring show your worth and then now big con conservative groups are doing rallies and
01:17:46.000conferences with women in pantsuits telling other women we're conservative we're patriarchal and so
01:17:52.640you what does that mean that a man has authority you should submit to him well no it never means
01:17:56.660that. What it means that women are going to be held accountable for their own shortcomings and0.96
01:18:00.940failures. No, it never means that. It means we're conservative and patriarchal that men still have
01:18:05.680every ounce of responsibility that the Bible says so. They must protect and they must provide. And
01:18:10.480provision means they need to be rich. And that's what you can demand as a woman when you're looking1.00
01:18:16.100for a husband. That's what you should expect. And when he says that, well, he can't be rich because1.00
01:18:22.600there's literally no jobs that actually give a fair wage uh well he's just making excuses and
01:18:28.740he needs to man up uh that's you know that was a rare tucker l i mean he kind of yeah whether1.00
01:18:34.980you're tucker carlson or ali bestucky our powers united both you know uh closeted feminists and
01:18:41.420and uh that's that's my opinion tell us how you really feel that's how i really feel uh nick i
01:18:46.260think did a good job in standing up to that respectfully he wasn't rude but saying uh
01:18:50.140okay boomer um no no uh that is not correct so i think that's what dapper dan was getting at
01:18:56.340and i would say uh dapper dan you are absolutely right um some of these are going to be for bill
01:19:01.120and some of them maybe won't specify but we'll turn it to you bill but that one had nothing to
01:19:05.740do with the episode today so i i went ahead and took that one wes you want to go ahead and read
01:19:09.080the next all right this dude rocks long long time support a great guy ten dollars he said this
01:19:14.700congrats on your recent shout out that was on nick's show last night he said we should go check
01:19:18.820out joel follow him doing great work really appreciate that he asked what would you say
01:19:22.900the differences between nick fuentes and cory mauler are they seem similar to me although
01:19:27.380fuentes is definitely funnier yep that is a great question because i'm going to answer that one too
01:19:33.200because a lot of people say well wait a second um you know you've mentioned joel that you would
01:19:37.980be willing to do something with nick but you haven't said that about cory you know um i i have
01:19:42.900you know in recent episodes because of the super chats at the end and wanting to honor them if you
01:19:47.040send us a super chat, we're going to answer. And so I actually have given a little bit more
01:19:50.920specification in regards to Stonequire and Corey Mahler. And specification in the vein of saying,
01:19:57.240I believe that he's a brother in Christ. I refuse to call him a heretic until I see some heresy.0.87
01:20:03.080I need some heresy if I'm going to say something like that. But he does hold views that I think
01:20:08.160are wrong. Okay. But views that I think are wrong are not necessarily heresy. I think that
01:20:13.820continuationists are wrong, but that's not heresy, right? So we have to be able to do theological
01:20:20.960triage, and we have to not lose our minds and be emotional and dramatic. Corey upsets lots of
01:20:28.700people because he talks about race, and race is very much a taboo subject. But what is the
01:20:34.280difference? Why have I been, so number one, I'm not anathematizing Corey Mahler, although I do
01:20:39.300think that some views are problematic, a serious problem. But if you're kind of picking up, it
01:20:45.780sounds like the super chat is picking up. Joel, it seems as though there's like more openness
01:20:49.480to a Nick Fuentes than a Corey Muller. What's going on with that? This is what I would say
01:20:54.420theologically, in terms of soteriology, these kinds of things. There's going to be more overlap
01:21:01.660with us, with Corey Muller, than there is with Nick. Corey Muller is a Lutheran. Corey Muller
01:21:05.880is Protestant, Nick is Catholic. So I have much deeper disagreements theologically in that regard,
01:21:13.020soteriology, ecclesiology, these kinds of things, much deeper disagreements with Nick than I would
01:21:18.240with Corey. But here's the deal. I'm not really interested in either of those subjects, soteriology
01:21:24.900or ecclesiology, in regards to any potential collaboration with a Nick or Corey, right? Like
01:21:30.580I'm not going to have Corey Mahler come on the show to talk ecclesiology or, hey, you know what,
01:21:35.180let's talk about salvation, right? That's just, you know, we have those conversations. There's
01:21:39.500other guys that we get to have those conversations. So if you're talking about, you know, Corey or
01:21:44.080Nick in the realm of, let's just be honest, it would be in the realm of Israel or race or, you
01:21:49.780know, politics, culture in a broader sense. It's not going to be, you know, theology of soteriology.
01:21:54.960That's just not what it's going to be. So in that realm, right? So now the Catholic thing kind of
01:21:59.080goes to the wayside. If we're talking politics and culture and not theology, right, we're talking
01:22:04.480race or our America's, you know, partnership with Israel, those kinds of things, right? Not0.54
01:22:11.080soteriology. If we're talking about that, there actually are objective, definitive distinctions
01:22:17.800between a Nick Fuentes and a Koi Mahler. Nick actually has a softer view. Nick says things in
01:22:27.300a certain way that can be highly offensive. I mean, the guy shot up into the stratosphere at
01:22:33.82017 years old, in his parents' basement, he's not in their basement anymore, but there was a time,
01:22:39.220shot up into the stratosphere as a single 17-year-old young man. Everyone hated him,
01:22:45.480couldn't get on an airplane, lost his bank accounts, was deplatformed from every social
01:22:50.040media platform there is, and so he leaned in and played the heel, right? There was kind of like a
01:22:56.180joker moment, right? Some men just want to watch the world burn. He leaned into that. He played
01:23:00.480into at heart. And he's admitted that. And I've talked to him about that. And, you know, there's
01:23:07.180still some of that. Some of that is his brand. Some of it's his style. And some of it comes
01:23:10.860actually from conviction, convictions that I personally disagree with, but he actually has
01:23:15.000a rhyme and reason. It's not just arbitrary. It's not just ridiculous. He actually is like,
01:23:18.840no, Joel, there's a strategy here. Trust the plan, you know, that kind of thing. And we can
01:23:23.380agree to disagree. But a lot of the hardest moments, right, the best hits, which are, you
01:23:29.100know, the most notorious hits from Nick Fuentes back in the day. I think some of those things
01:23:33.540have changed as he's gotten older, as he's matured. That's the rhetoric. But in terms
01:23:40.160of the actual positions, the actual positions, Nick Fuentes does not believe. So I'm being real
01:23:48.500honest. You asked the question, I'm giving you an answer. Nick Fuentes does not believe
01:23:52.420that Clarence Thomas has to go back to Africa.
01:33:17.080Also, here's another thing. Maybe don't go grocery shopping tomorrow. Maybe it would have been great to go grocery shopping this past week in preparation and then hold off a little while. But in all seriousness, I would carry. Do not let your wife and children go alone for the next little while until things get ironed out.
01:33:39.460and i also would uh pick certain times of the day i would not be going you know like on a friday
01:33:45.800night or something like that um i would be wise and maybe try to hold off um yeah just just exercise
01:33:53.300discernment exercise wisdom okay west next one all right cool dude sent five dollars said uh
01:33:58.440griper but i hardly know her that's actually kind of funny it is all right uh micah bloomquist
01:34:05.720just sent a question in very briefly did you see nick fuentes shouted you out and highly
01:34:10.340recommended your content this would have been on last night's show yeah last night's show um
01:34:14.120i don't know if i if it was possible for me not to see it because i woke up today you know with
01:34:19.560a ton of people uh hopping on and following um following me on both uh twitter and on youtube
01:34:26.580and also a bunch of friends you know send to me um you know send to me you know clips uh the clip
01:34:32.860from his show. So yes, I did see that, and I've already said it publicly, and I think Nick has
01:34:38.660said as much. We have had conversations over this past year, and a lot of people are going to hate
01:34:46.100me for it, but here's the deal. They're going to hate me, and I'm not going to be able to win
01:34:49.100them over. You can't win them all. I remember an older pastor once told me years ago. He said,
01:34:54.660Joel, you always have to disappoint someone, but in God's grace, you get to choose who.
01:35:00.380You always have to disappoint someone.
01:35:02.640So the idea of, well, I'm not going to disappoint anyone.