The last six months have been absolutely devastating for the political left. Yes, they lost the election, yes, their funding network of government cash and rich donors is drying up, but right now, the younger generation is shockingly conservative, especially young men. The leftist language and tone that safeguarded a leftist frame for decades is regularly flaunted and mocked, spelling doom for the consensus they rely so heavily upon. Support for gay marriage and transgenderism is plummeting, and we are looking at the complete and utter implosion of a political party. But it wasn t always this way. Less than three decades ago, Democrat President Bill Clinton signed the Defense of Marriage Act, defining marriage as one man and one woman. Hillary Clinton advocated for rapid deportation of criminal illegal aliens in 2008. And as they embraced more and more radical leftist positions, they quickly fell into the very trap they set for others.
00:05:30.180Yeah, so basically what we're doing is we're having an organized official singles mixer.
00:05:36.100I've had the distinct pleasure of officiating at least one wedding now that has come out of our previous conferences.
00:05:42.880It's a great place to meet fellow believers who are like-minded, especially if you're single and looking toward marriage.
00:05:50.000And so right now we are full with the single Christian young men, but we are lacking, we need three more, well, we actually need five more, but we have three free tickets to give away.
00:06:04.720So three free tickets for any single Christian woman who is 25 plus.
00:06:10.120Can I clarify here, Joel, because the sign says for the singles event.
00:06:14.040Is this conference tickets or to the events?
00:06:16.080Yeah, we're going to give the singles event will be free and the conference will be free because the singles event is only open.
00:06:22.480It's not just open to the public, but as a subset for the registrants for the conference.
00:06:27.760So it's only open to people who go to the conference and the conference is what's more expensive.
00:06:31.780So we're actually giving three tickets to the conference.
00:19:35.780And that's, as I was thinking about this episode, that's kind of one of the things I hope we get across is, like, the victory lap has been run.
00:19:45.160The first two weeks of Trump's administration was the victory lap, right?
00:19:49.280It was, I saw on Twitter or on X, someone said, you know, it's Christmas every morning and it never stops, right?
00:19:53.880Like, okay, well, it's March now, and there's work to be done over the next four years.
00:20:01.940I wanted to mention one other thing, Wes, and that is part of what happened with the Democratic Party, I think, is that a lot of the ideologies that they bought into only worked in laboratories.
00:20:14.920And that laboratory was the ivory tower, the university.
00:20:19.720And a lot of the common blue collar workers maybe could have been convinced to buy into it.
00:20:30.300And they have to go with what is actual reality because it bites them in the butt every single day.0.99
00:20:36.620And if they violate reality, it is going to just knock them over.0.88
00:20:41.800And so part of what happened with those 10 or 15 years is that that actually had been bubbling in the ivory tower for a long time, since the Frankfurt School, since the liberals took over the universities in the 60s and 70s.
00:20:56.760and what's interesting to me is actually all that we got to see was how those ideas would play out
00:21:03.280in reality and it's like we think 10 or 15 years is a long time because we're short-lived
00:21:09.760creatures but 10 to 15 years is nothing right and the fact that that mold or those spores they
00:21:16.840bubbled up and then within 10 to 15 years reality was like no that's that's going to die in the
00:21:22.060petri dish like that's actually quite astonishing well it's not astonishing it's it's quite0.90
00:21:27.140encouraging yeah it is yeah black lives matter lasted less than 10 years i remember yeah 2017
00:21:33.4002018 i was aware of black lives matter and the different active activists work that they did
00:21:38.440it was uh it was michael brown was the shooting in baltimore yep what was the other one there's
00:21:43.220another big one before trayvon martin is michael brown the one who never said hands up don't shoot
00:21:47.520yep he's the one charged a cop and important just stated in the one who never said hands up
00:21:52.600exactly yeah yep that became the rallying word and they were nice little code words the cops0.97
00:21:56.960are out here killing people these poor black men hands up don't shoot trayvon martin was another0.78
00:22:01.240one i remember most of this because i was in x29 which was also blm which is fascinating that it0.99
00:22:08.280was taking root every single shooting yeah like was talked about ad nauseum i mean yep you could
00:22:16.020be you could be an axe 29 church planter or you could be a blm in tifa uh protester and you like
00:22:23.020it'd be hard to tell the difference sometimes it's the same yeah yeah you said when the pastors were
00:22:27.540out it was pretty much diagram oh it's a circle yes sir but they hit their their high water mark
00:22:33.340yeah right 2020 and and i remember it because it was like we've been telling you for all these
00:22:38.420years there's systemic racism and there's you know brutality and we got it on camera and here
00:22:43.220it is right but since that high watermark i i mean fortune 500 companies begging pleading like
00:22:49.540please we will employ any of you we will do the work of justice millions and millions billions
00:22:55.480of dollars flowing in this isn't 2020 like this is not a lifetime ago to practice they're done
00:23:02.540like their mural being removed the last vestiges of dei wiped from a lot of corporate boardrooms
00:23:08.300most certainly wiped from the united states government like their movement as big as it was
00:23:13.220and as pervasive as it was because it had 10 years which is awesome and in many ways a white pill but
00:23:19.640it also shows how quickly you can get momentum behind a narrative and idea but then honestly
00:23:25.160probably some of it like uh ibram kendi got 50 close to 50 million dollars i think for a center
00:23:30.700for anti-racist research at boston university like this was it we're gonna we're gonna put a
00:23:35.440center in here we're going to study it study racism its systemic effects this that or the other
00:23:39.920it closed like three months ago its funding has run out they haven't produced any meaningful work
00:23:45.100so to your point michael very easy to have ideas very easy to have pithy statements and very easy
00:23:51.000for them unfortunately to be picked up by the public and ran with and donated to and all of
00:23:55.820that but the rubber meets the road and we see how long they last and honestly part of the reason it
00:24:00.440was so easy is because that wouldn't get picked up in so many different cultures and so many
00:24:05.320different countries and so many different time periods it was easy to get picked up in a
00:24:09.480microcosm specifically the united states of america which is still majority white nation
00:24:16.060in you know in the 2020s in that environment it was easy to get picked up why um because honestly
00:24:24.420a lot of white americans are pretty pretty good people right like they're they're empathetic to
00:24:32.020a fault yep you know they're compassionate like they're relatively well off so they weren't
00:24:36.960worrying right like a lot of them are they're hard working they have a surplus they've saved
00:24:42.800their money they haven't just you know been silly and and just you know and in the way that they
00:24:48.460like they they save they work and um and a lot of them go to church not all obviously but like
00:24:55.480go to church and want to be charitable they want to be generous you know and and so you can run a
00:25:02.840scam like that you know in that kind of environment i mean most most countries if you you know like
00:25:09.960blm would not have been successful in most time periods like pretty much every time period until
00:25:15.360now like it wouldn't have stood a snowflake's chance in hell but it's but it worked here
00:25:21.380because it worked off of it worked off of guilt and gullibility and and i think part of that is1.00
00:25:28.260you know and part part of that ties into feminism i think that that women are are uniquely susceptible1.00
00:25:35.360to because and i'm not i don't mean this as a negative thing women um when they're when they're0.99
00:25:41.200embracing what god has called them to do um they're incredible i can't do what my wife does0.96
00:25:47.580the way that she cares for our five children. I can never do what she does. But when you take
00:25:55.600women outside of the role, the primary role that God intends, then all of a sudden,
00:26:02.620like the natural feminine disposition of being nurturing, compassionate, caring, concerned,
00:26:10.940all those things can can be much more easily exploited than with men like with men you know
00:26:18.940like and you see that even in the courtroom you know like katanji brown jackson like when she was
00:26:25.340doing you know all of her you know her hearings you know working towards being you know officially
00:26:31.200put in as a supreme court justice i remember you know they were bringing up old court cases where
00:26:37.160she had been really soft on a pedophile pedophiles but but one in particular and you know when men
00:26:44.760hear cases like that and we were looking and seeing the case and what it was and and you know0.65
00:26:49.580women like their instinct is um if only this this young man had a good mother and men's instinct is
00:26:58.840if only we had a short rope and a tree right you know and um and both of those are actually
00:27:05.800correct instincts but they have to be rightly ordered right so like if uh if it's you know
00:27:12.700short rope and a tall tree and that's uh that's the primary nurturer in the home and then the uh
00:27:21.500if only they had a good mom and then that's your primary breadwinner you know and like then things
00:27:26.600get you know outside of the home then things get disordered and and that's where we are you know0.62
00:27:31.340like that's what hr is it's it's women who wanted to be moms but chose to be moms in corporate
00:27:36.720america instead of their home right that's what it is it's it's moms it's moms uh hr uh ladies1.00
00:27:44.080are uh corporate moms uh they you know they bought into the feminist lie but they still have that1.00
00:27:49.360natural instinct to be maternal and so they've decided to become moms of 35 year old men and0.99
00:27:56.080and scold them i i remember working in corporate america and i could tell with some women that0.72
00:28:00.940did not have kids and were in their 30s.
00:29:55.180and to have no reaction to it and it's also inappropriate to have an overly extreme reaction
00:30:00.960to some minor inconvenience right and he said that christian education trains the even the
00:30:08.620emotional responses that we have to things and i think that what happened in one of the things
00:30:13.900one of the many things that happened in america leading to advocacy for or or embracing gay rights
00:30:21.260and BLM and all of those things is we got told as a nation, you need to have strong emotions
00:30:28.020about the victimization of gay people, the victimization of black people currently in
00:30:34.100the 2020s and the 2010s. And really what was, what happened was we had no training for what
00:30:41.980emotional responses are to be triggered, two things. And Lewis's point was not devalue the
00:30:47.260emotions, but just train them appropriately. And what really got run on America and Christians in1.00
00:30:53.360America was you need to feel bad about this rather than indignant about its opposite, right? All it0.84
00:31:00.280was, was even the men, the Acts 29 pastors, we feel so sad. We feel so sorry for the abuse that
00:31:09.080African-Americans have suffered. And it was just one emotional play after the other. There was very
00:31:13.560little actual objective discernment going on there it was just an appeal to emotion and as soon as
00:31:20.800they were told have this emotion about it and and we agreed the conversation was over yeah i remember
00:31:27.900being angry at an acts 29 conference because it was for pastors and their wives and so you know0.77
00:31:35.380my wife was with me and there's all these women um and i remember like looking around the room and
00:31:41.580seeing all these women you know crying and um like tears in their eyes and like that you could
00:31:47.240just tell they like their heads kind of their posture body posture heads you know down low
00:31:52.180and just just you could feel like a weight of shame and guilt as um as a couple guys it was
00:31:59.620leonce crump and eric mason brandon washington dwayne bond i think it was the year that they
00:32:07.840brought in ron burns who changed his name to thabidi uh anabwile um and uh you know all these
00:32:16.640men were on stage all these black men uh talking about all the terrible atrocities and not not of
00:32:23.760the past but like you know those two but but the big emphasis was that these things are still
00:32:29.140happening and nothing's really changed you know and this shooting that just happened i remember
00:32:33.380sitting there and be like like this is a shooting and they were you know eric mason was referencing
00:32:37.640some shooting that had just happened within like 48 hours and i remember like that there were no
00:32:42.180facts we didn't have any details and i remember thinking like okay so a cop shot a black man but
00:32:48.280i what was it wrong i don't i don't know were they armed were they were they trying to kill
00:32:56.580the cop was it self-defense like like there's there's a million different scenarios that
00:33:00.820that could have and and we don't even know and you're just immediately assuming that somehow
00:33:05.740this is racism or somehow it's unjust and you're doing so um in a pastors and wives conference
00:33:13.740setting with all these i mean like frankly it was just it was like hundreds of white women
00:33:19.580sniffling and crying now my wife wasn't crying because i've discipled my wife
00:33:24.880um and she knew better and she knew like yeah uh we're being exploited right now
00:33:30.660um and lo and behold like i can't remember the person's name you know because there were so many
00:33:36.320cases like this during that time period where you find out a week later or two weeks later oh
00:33:40.960actually they had a gun or actually they had a knife and were trying to stab the cop or actually
00:33:44.980you know this and actually that like um but yeah that i mean that was a dark dark period of time
00:33:52.540for our nation that like for the better part of a decade you just had propaganda after propaganda
00:34:00.240after propaganda that and all of it really just i mean one clear message white people evil let me
00:34:07.580tie that right to the could you pull that chart up again nate a decade of propaganda let's look
00:34:12.420at this chart so this is again the increase in women and people of color and lgbtq what year
00:34:17.820does that biggest well you guys can't read it because it's small the year that the biggest
00:34:21.020increase comes and it's a sharp increase across this whole chart there's an increase slowly from
00:34:25.640the 1995 what year is it 2010 2011 now there's the financial crash of 2008 you also know what
00:34:34.400i remember becoming really mainstream 2008 2009 2010 the internet and everybody's homes and
00:34:40.520as the saying goes you know like the lie gets halfway around the world before the truth gets
00:34:44.820its shoes on what if in many ways truth has actually started getting his shoes on and getting
00:34:49.760his statistics and getting his narrative what we're seeing right now but there really was a
00:34:53.420decade where like remember pepsi commercials you know like we're all one family the human family
00:34:58.260everyone belongs pithy statements you know injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere
00:35:03.820i really think that increase you like you're tying that into the rise of wokeness tying that
00:35:08.540into black lives matter tying it into the systemic racism narrative and you can see the increase and
00:35:13.480i think a good bit of it was the very effective use and manipulation and leveraging of the internet
00:35:19.360and propaganda to push a message this is what to believe this is what's going on you need to feel
00:35:25.880bad for it that's probably what brought about and i mean it culminated in the election of joe biden
00:35:31.120i mean they did their best to destroy this country for three years they did a lot of damage and we
00:35:36.800will see if by god's grace it was the final nail in the coffin but about 10 years of propaganda
00:35:42.200barack obama and their embrace of those radical politics really led to the state we are in right
00:35:47.700now yeah it did and i i'm hopeful in the sense that like we've already said there's a lot of
00:35:54.360work to be done but i'm hopeful um oh this is the sad part but i'll say it out loud because it's
00:36:02.000it bears saying um i'm not hopeful because of the church no like you and i wes have been you know
00:36:11.160in arguments even with like some of our friends you know in group chats who are all you know
00:36:15.780they're all christians that's why we're in those chats with those guys and some of them are you
00:36:19.280know formerly in ministry and some of them are business owners or you know they lead this or
00:36:23.180lead that um and uh we've we've been you know uh had guys disagree with us but um every day that
00:36:31.820goes by i'm more confident that um our friends who we they are our friends we love them but
00:36:36.900they're uh profoundly wrong um there is a conservative conservative uh resurgence right
00:36:42.820now and it's undeniable it's it's blatant it's visible and um and it's massive and i think it's
00:36:48.240only picking up steam and i think it shows no signs of stopping a massive return to nature
00:36:55.160natural order that men are men and women are women and you know children a boy is a boy a girl's a
00:37:00.900girl you know it's not a lump of clump of cells you know and that woman's you know in her womb0.91
00:37:06.280but it's a baby like these kinds of natural things there is a return but um christians aren't i mean
00:37:12.600we're just like, let's just not kid ourselves. We are not leading the way. We're not leading the
00:37:17.640way. It's happening, but I see it all the time. I see it on X. I see it on people's podcasts. I
00:37:23.660see it on Joe Rogan. I see it on like, I mean, there's a million different, whether it's Ian
00:37:27.480Carroll or Joe Rogan or Elon Musk or this, that, or the other. It's just example after example,
00:37:32.940after example of people who they're not Christian. They're not Christian. And yet they are leading0.93
00:37:42.100and garnering the groundswell for this conservative research.
00:37:47.360And you look at all the different statistics of Gen Z
00:37:51.140and the widest gap, I think we're going to get to that in a moment,
00:37:54.340but between men and women, politically and culturally,
00:37:57.620the widest gap between men and women that we've had
00:38:00.520in a very, very long time, if not ever.
00:38:03.420And young male Gen Z are very, very conservative,
00:38:09.380um but not necessarily very christian right but very conservative and so like there's this return
00:38:17.020to nature and um and it's happening it's happening in many ways without us and i think like christians
00:38:24.560would do well to uh to take a small dose of humility and and admit that um there was a crown
00:38:33.840lying in the gutter there was an opportunity christians christians could have been the hero
00:38:39.220of the story and stepped in um but few did i mean honestly like the church is always let's just be
00:38:48.320honest like at least for decades now the church is always 10 years behind the culture so honestly
00:38:53.640one of the last woke places you'll be able to find on earth will probably be an evangelical
00:38:58.680protestant church like when a whole rest of the country and culture and everything you could0.89
00:39:04.040possibly imagine, every other crook and cranny of our culture is just completely done with1.00
00:39:09.660wokeness, you can bet your bottom dollar you'll be able to find some Baptist Protestant church0.98
00:39:14.840that's still as woke as all get out. That'll be the last place you'll find it. Same with feminism.0.98
00:39:19.900The Japanese who kept fighting the war, you know, 30 years after it was over.1.00
00:39:24.280Exactly. Yeah, that is evangelicals. And it's, I mean, it's really, really sad. Just for the0.98
00:39:31.180record i pick on evangelicals because i am one i am an evangelical and it's probably the most
00:39:36.160embarrassing thing about me um you know but uh but that's that's just we are so there is this
00:39:41.860massive resurgence but it's um it's rooted in nature uh more than it is in christ uh because0.54
00:39:49.140it's it's unbelievers non-christians who are predominantly leading the way because a lot of
00:39:54.460the christians um it's it's because of this this misordered misordered sentiment of of empathy or0.80
00:40:04.140whatever it is like christians have proven that they are not a safeguard against communism woke
00:40:10.780wokeism marxism feminism point earlier all like that yeah and just agreeing with you michael like
00:40:16.860all these things um christianity really this is what it comes down to so christianity is so
00:40:21.180vulnerable to communism marxism you know all these things why because christianity is feminine
00:40:27.820now i don't believe it is in the objective case i don't true christianity true christianity is not
00:40:33.580feminine but what i'm talking about is modern particularly protestant evangelical christianity
00:40:40.620has been thoroughly feminized feminine and almost suicidal in many ways right well and that's what0.92
00:40:47.020I mean, I remember seeing the videos of, I can't even remember at this point, if it was France or Germany or England, some pathetic country in Europe.0.69
00:40:58.300I mean, there's so many to choose from at this point, it's hard to narrow it down.
00:41:01.180But I think it was France and seeing like old elderly women, you know, out there, not as their as their town is being set on fire and burned to the ground.
00:41:10.880And they're not out there pleading or protesting against the people who are doing it, who are destroying all their heritage, all their legacy, everything they have.
00:41:19.400No, they're out there pleading with the police, the French police, and saying, please don't hurt these monsters who are destroying our entire civilization.
00:41:31.240I mean, you could just take that picture right there of like an 86-year-old woman on her knees, and you see flames in the background behind her.
00:41:40.420her own home is being burnt to a crisp where she raised her children and played, you know,
00:41:45.060in the backyard with her grandchildren. And she's on her knees and she is contending with and begging
00:41:49.960and pleading, not with her oppressors, but with the French police who are actually trying to stop
00:41:56.380those and saying, please don't intervene. Please don't hurt them. Please don't, you know, use any
00:42:02.640force. Please don't be masculine. Please let them kill us. Let them kill us all.
00:42:09.040the the true heart of an evangelical pastor let them kill us all said evangelical pastors1.00
00:42:15.840and uh yeah that i mean and so young back to my point there is a conservative resurgence uh and
00:42:22.840it's coming predominantly from men shocker that that's to be expected and young men and predominantly
00:42:27.940young white men because they've been hated from from their birth and they're aware of that
00:42:32.940and they don't like that usually people don't enjoy being hated and guess where they're not
00:42:38.060looking for guidance and inspiration to evangelical pastors and why would they why would they how many
00:42:45.660ngos catholic and lutheran especially facilitated not passively like oh we'll let this happen
00:42:51.540actively facilitated the settling of refugees and migrants by the millions yeah i did a lot in the
00:42:57.240united states a ton tons of catholic and lutheran non-government organizations actively facilitated
00:43:03.180the destruction of the west by doing their best to bring in as many using christian language the
00:43:08.460least of these this that or the other to destroy us yeah the church doing that yeah so yeah i i oh
00:43:16.460the last i was gonna say because you kept mentioning lewis c.s lewis and you're saying like that he was
00:43:21.180arguing that christian education and schooling um would not you know it's not just shaping the
00:43:27.020intellect but it's it's forming virtue and so it was shaping um even uh the soul and and flowing
00:43:34.020out of that stemming out of that the emotions and how to uh how to have a mature and full orbed
00:43:40.100um appropriate proper human response emotional response to things whether it's niagara falls or
00:43:46.420whether it's a minor grievance um and i was thinking that the whole time you were talking
00:43:51.180and i was thinking yeah and c.s lewis also thought it was absolutely insane insane to educate boys
00:43:58.500and girls in the same school together yeah yeah so the same guy who said like children need to be
00:44:04.180taught and shaped in terms of not just their their intellect right my facts don't care about your
00:44:10.300feelings but also their hearts their souls because feelings if not properly trained won't care about
00:44:16.360the facts right but in the sense of in that vein of recognizing the importance and the necessity of
00:44:22.300shaping feelings and the soul c.s lewis would be one of the first to recognize that that the feelings
00:44:29.220and the emotional state of a boy and girl are not the same and therefore they require different
00:44:34.300distinct shaping in separate environments separate but equal for boys and girls separate but equal
00:44:42.580but he recognized like boys and girls are not the same they need to be uh have different education
00:44:49.220different shaping because they've been designed for by god for separate purposes yep so all right
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00:46:39.940So let's jump right in. Let's substantiate where you talked about young men and the difference that's growing in their conservative ideology compared to young women.
00:46:47.100So, Nate, you can pull this graph up. This is from Financial Times, just really recently published, I think about six months ago or so.
00:46:53.860and it says this for anyone listening a wide ideology gap is opening up between young men
00:46:58.800and women in countries around the world so if you look at this graph what you'll see is in red you
00:47:05.040have women and then in blue you have men and the higher that uh the red or the blue goes is more0.98
00:47:11.600liberal and lower it goes would be more conservative so red is women higher is more liberal blue is
00:47:17.160men lower is more conservative and for anyone listening when you look at this graph what you
00:47:22.360see and this didn't just start last year or two years ago this is something that's been going on
00:47:27.200since 2010 actually as you see men starting to decouple from women so that would mean on average
00:47:33.920in every single one of these graphs except for the uk which god help them um in south korea the
00:47:41.140us most notably and in germany men decoupling from women and on the whole 10 20 percent more
00:47:49.220conservative and where this is completely exacerbated south korea is actually the most
00:47:55.340the biggest difference the men in south korea are based wow well south korea has been destroyed
00:48:01.600like their fertility rate is one of the lowest and they've done everything for decades to raise it
00:48:05.460there's no future for that country in many ways but what you see in this graph and it's fascinating
00:48:09.900is that 2020 2015 especially men and women huge gap with men being much much much more
00:48:19.200conservative this is not just a single survey this is not just one kind of like opinion poll
00:48:23.840these are dozens of different graphs averaged out showing that across not just america not
00:48:29.140just since 2020 but for the last decade across the world men are getting significantly more
00:48:36.020conservative especially in comparison to women which poses some problems in its own right but
00:48:41.180that's an episode you know it sounds if i were on the left you know what i would be doing right now0.94
00:48:45.120this is just totally hypothetical but i would be trying to arrange a massive world war to kill off
00:48:50.920some of that young conservative resurgence among the men that's brilliant that's brilliant uk is
00:48:56.380working on it real hard i was about to say they it's not even getting better old kier huh he's
00:49:01.420like listen we've got muslims just coming out of every corner of the uk it's it's wonderful we1.00
00:49:09.080absolutely love it um we need more of them find a way to get rid of the young men but we don't1.00
00:49:14.180want to get rid of the muslim men we want to kill all the white native brits you know and so is there1.00
00:49:19.700any place where we can count on white people maybe because of patriotism you know or traditional1.00
00:49:25.780values all the military ukraine we're coming i'll send our 90 you know military that's all a bunch0.98
00:49:33.220of 20 something year old muslim men nope they're not in the military all the white boys are going0.99
00:49:38.280to go and die and uh and then we'll be able to have our yep dystopian hellhole islamic country0.99
00:49:45.480i said white pills all right next graph the decline of christianity probably a lot of you0.99
00:49:50.860saw this here's a white pill we fought great britain for a reason and we're not them right
00:49:55.500that's the white we are this is america as difficult as things are here my goodness
00:50:01.260if you speak english just call it just come over well i don't know don't you sorry
00:50:07.700you had your chance 400 years ago yep yep we we beat you once all right you guys probably seen
00:50:14.940this this is a new york times christianity it's a serious decline from 2007 this is percent
00:50:20.580christian in the united states serious decline from 2007 all the way until about 2019 and then
00:50:26.540a little bit farther down until 2021 but it's for the last three years been on the increase
00:50:31.420this corresponds to everything that we're talking about you push the propaganda you push the
00:50:36.040nonsense you push the identity politics too far and for now getting close to half a decade
00:50:40.920christianity is actually back on the rise um we had 80 before we were a 97 protestant country in
00:50:47.8201900 right and by god's grace i'll have it again but but again this rise is predominantly when you
00:50:54.600look in the statistics it's um it's men who are returning to the church for the first time the
00:50:59.440church has always been female heavy uh but now it's it's men that are returning and here's here's
00:51:05.420my theory on that because i've given that a bit of thought right so i i think that you know nature
00:51:09.900remains the undefeated champ you can't destroy nature um you can try you can suppress nature
00:51:15.620temporarily you know but uh you can't destroy it grace will elevate and restore nature and then
00:51:21.080apart from grace then you still have nature it's it's not restored nature but you still have nature
00:51:25.820um and you can you know you can use demonic tactics to try to temporarily suppress it but
00:51:31.120it will bounce back so all that said um i believe that it is a woman's nature uh to be honoring i'll
00:51:39.120just say it i i did the whole time i'm just mindful like what is right wing watch gonna clip
00:51:42.800and they're gonna clip this but here we go um women i believe by nature are submissive
00:51:48.160and so then the question is not whether but which it's not as though um you know like you might have1.00
00:51:55.500a few individuals right there are always exceptions to the rule i'm speaking in group dynamics women as
00:52:00.140whole in generalities but in general um women are um they're followers not leaders they are
00:52:08.060submissive um and and so all that you've really seen is historically you you know men tend to be
00:52:15.580you know they're more likely to be contrarian you know or independent thinkers or whatever it might
00:52:20.620be for better and for worse like i'm not saying that's inherently always good there's pros and
00:52:26.220cons. And so, as you saw a lot of, you know, the ramping up of apostasy in the West and turning
00:52:32.860against Christ, it was a lot of men leading the way in that apostasy. So, it's men who were
00:52:39.440departing from church attendance, right? It was men who are bucking against the machine, you know,
00:52:43.980who are sticking it to the man and sticking it to the clergy and sticking it to their parents,
00:52:48.720you know, in their typical, you know, sowing their wild oats in their typical masculine rebellious
00:52:52.920ways. And women were the ones who remained dutiful, or like I said earlier, I think it is the proper
00:52:59.620word, submissive. And so in a spirit of feminine, natural feminine submission, whether they were0.97
00:53:05.140regenerate or not, and I'm sure plenty of them were genuinely born-again Christians, but even I
00:53:11.340suspect that there were probably a great many that weren't actually born-again Christians,
00:53:15.120but just their natural feminine spirit, even apart from that feminine nature being, you know,
00:53:21.500elevated by grace, was still sufficient for them to want to please their elders, to please their
00:53:29.900authority. And the authority still, the reigning authority at that time, there was still a dominant
00:53:35.700Christian hegemony. So, what does it look like for women when there's these new rebellious1.00
00:53:45.660movements against the church and against Christianity that are ramping up, but still0.98
00:53:49.480the dominant, you know, older authority happens to be largely Christian. Well, it looks like men0.99
00:53:54.660leaving the church and women staying, you know, and now I think in many ways, it's precisely,
00:54:01.400it's not despite, but in some ways you could argue it's precisely because the left has won
00:54:05.880and this anti-Christ, anti-religion, anti-tradition has so thoroughly won and replaced all of our
00:54:14.500institutions and all the authority in our in in every single you know vector of our culture that
00:54:21.220now the the rebellious spirit of young men is is like um all my leaders are uh purple-haired0.95
00:54:29.160queers well i mean i'm going to church right right you know what i mean and and women so it's not0.85
00:54:35.700actually that all these leftist women here's my point it's not that all these leftist women are
00:54:40.200free thinking independent they're not they're just women aka they're submitting to authority0.79
00:54:47.000and the authority right now is godless right and they're submitting to it as they always have done
00:54:54.400and as they always will do and men are bucking against it as they've always done and always will
00:54:59.780do and because right now the reigning champ in the realm of authority is every university is
00:55:07.040leftist every you know predominantly women and leftist exactly exactly so men are like
00:55:12.580well then uh-uh i'm gonna go the opposite direction and i think a plenty of the men
00:55:17.960don't even care if it's right or wrong they just they're gonna do the opposite right they're gonna
00:55:21.220live their own lives and they're gonna you know buck against the machine and stick it to the man1.00
00:55:25.840and uh the women are not my point is they're not being independent free spirited no they're being1.00
00:55:31.900dutiful the way god intended unfortunately the reigning champ the reigning authority happens0.97
00:55:37.800to be a godless purple-haired freak and so women are submitting to that true all right let's get
00:55:44.160to the last one this last chart this is a white pill so this is a survey this is leading up to0.96
00:55:49.4402022 so from 2018 to 2022 homosexual couples should have the right to marry one another so0.62
00:55:56.260So this is survey results across evangelicalism, the mainline denominations, and Catholicism.0.90
00:56:02.380And so in the red bar you have, and I'll describe it for anyone listening, on the red bar you
00:56:52.420That's rough. That number has fallen in every category in the four years following 2018. So from 55% of evangelicals and young people to 47%. 90% to 75% in mainlines. A 15% decrease in four years in the mainline institutions of support for gay marriage. Catholicism, 84% to 70% in young individuals.
01:20:20.040There's been a hell of a lot of days between 2020 and today.
01:20:22.980and one meeting so it's not like this is i'm like what the hell is why is this the biggest issue
01:20:27.380then you can just put up the screenshot nate this is the law that gavin newsom signed last year
01:20:34.400that california banned school rules requiring parent notification of child pronoun change
01:20:40.960right yeah yeah no he's he's full of it so there's no question about that um i i you you will not
01:20:48.700catch me saying that no i know you're not saying that i mean when everybody was locked in their
01:20:53.100homes he was at the the what is it the dirty the french laundry yes i wanted to call it the dirty
01:20:58.980laundry journey one but two hundred dollar entrees yeah and so you know whining and dining rules for
01:21:04.380thee but not for me um he's you know that's he's a politician for sure but um but my point is just
01:21:10.960to say that uh that's that's kind of what politicians do if something utterly fails
01:21:16.380and it's not just politicians like honestly i'm 38 years old i've been in enough conflicts at this
01:21:22.280point that like every single time i've won an argument like uh this is sad you know because
01:21:31.080most of the conflicts have been with you know brothers in christ we disagree on something you
01:21:34.880know in a christian environment and yet even in those environments i've never really had the
01:21:40.900experience where there was a deep rift, a deep disagreement. And then the other side came and
01:21:47.840said, you know what? We realized that we were wrong and you were right. I've never had that
01:21:52.180happen. But I have been right. I've been wrong plenty of times too. But every time I've been
01:21:57.100right, and it got to the point of critical mass where it was undeniable. It was undeniable that
01:22:03.240I was right. The other side has no out at that point. Like people come around. One way or another
01:22:08.920they come around the question though is how do they come around like through the door of humility
01:22:13.840do they actually acknowledge i was saying this and now i'm saying that you might notice that i
01:22:18.340just did a 180 degree turn and it's quite obvious and the reason why and you know how do you account
01:22:24.060for this well it's simply you account for it by saying i was wrong and i'm now repenting and
01:22:29.140acknowledging that and now i'm taking this other position that has not been my experience with
01:22:34.540others um it it has always been uh somehow they end up being right too with my position
01:22:43.300like seriously it's it's uncanny nate nate am i am i uh am i telling the truth right now
01:22:49.940can you can you testify to nathan's been with me for a long time he's watched it happen
01:22:56.900where there's there could be a six-month argument and then all of a sudden we're all
01:23:02.140on the same side on my side and yet yet but everyone's right you know nobody was wrong
01:23:09.840and so um i just think that that's just human nature that's just the way i mean that's even
01:23:15.280that that that that applies in my experience that applies with christians that applies with
01:23:20.980with pastors for pete's sake so certainly it'll apply with you know democrat politicians from
01:23:26.900california like i i think that what you'll see is it'll be 180 degrees like we just posted the
01:23:33.600screenshot this was your policy this is what you did it directly you know contradicts what what
01:23:38.420you just said with charlie kirk um when has that ever stopped a politician yeah when has that ever
01:23:44.380that's not a hindrance if you know in some ways i think like it'll it it becomes a a strength of
01:23:50.980like, look at how versatile he is, you know? And, and so I just think that, um, my, my point is that
01:23:58.380like, you just, there, there are sinking ships and like, so it's like, it's like playing battleship
01:24:03.860and you sink a ship and you think that you've won. Um, but all the pirates, you know, um,
01:24:10.920from that ship, they just, they just transfer to another one. So I, I do believe that like,
01:24:17.780we have thoroughly by the grace of god defeated um the ship that is uh the democrat platform of
01:24:26.460of 2020 to 2024 i think that like that dog won't hunt it's done it's absolutely done um but all
01:24:35.220the people who are on that ship um they're not done i think if we think that the people
01:24:41.120like we beat the platform we beat we beat the platform we beat the policies um but if we think
01:24:48.020that that the people are just going to go away that like there will there will be a few ideologues
01:24:53.560because there have to be strategically speaking a few the captain will go down with the ship
01:24:58.200and and what what will happen is that they'll find a few willing sacrificial lambs who are
01:25:05.940willing to be the captain and wear the albatross as a badge of honor that's how they'll view it
01:25:11.180like yes i really did believe that america could be better and and repent of its great racism and
01:25:17.700blah blah blah blah blah and they'll go down with the ship and they'll be able to say see like we've
01:25:21.980separated from them and they'll pay the cost but 90 percent of of of the democrat you know uh
01:25:29.980representatives will be able to get off off the ship to live to fight another day half of them
01:25:35.020will run as republicans the other half will run as the the new uh sensible democrat party like
01:25:41.620well not 40 women were 38 right but the dynamic going on joel that we've alluded to a couple of
01:25:49.220times already is that the republican party has moved to the left and now the democratic party
01:25:55.080is going to have to that like gavin is going to have to move right to the right and so there's
01:25:59.680two things that really will determine this one is if there's any ground that can be carved out
01:26:06.140of separation this makes me very sad to say this can can gavin newsom occupy the middle at all
01:26:12.120but still distinguish himself from the republicans right who made that strategic move and maybe he
01:26:17.560might not be able to because the republican platform has been very pro-lgbtq all of those
01:26:23.080things that's the thing is i think he can move to the right i absolutely believe that's possible
01:26:27.200but you're absolutely right like the question is okay if you can move the right but then how
01:26:31.440how do you still meaningfully distinguish yourself from so so and trump has taken and this is sad but
01:26:38.880like trump has taken all the democrat things trump is trump is like gayness is mine i am donald trump0.69
01:26:46.920and i am pro-gay so like i mean he has owned gayness he has owned abortion he has owned0.80
01:26:54.100a ivf ivf he's owned all the all the crappiest things you could imagine to own he's he has owned0.75
01:27:01.700them so he's left really nothing for the democrat like they could assume the center right but then
01:27:06.320they would just be um they would just be an inferior trump yep so the question is
01:27:12.240would vance occupy that same position or the future republican nominee and
01:27:19.260it'll really come down to whether the overton window can move enough right that we can run
01:27:25.960someone who's more christian you're on it more conservative um and then unfortunately that comes
01:27:33.100with if we move to the right then the democrats can jump right into the space that trump carved
01:27:37.680out exactly there in the middle that's potentially more popular than a more correct position that's
01:27:41.960exactly that's that's where i'm going and that's why it really is a white pill is um i so so the
01:27:48.460black pill is like, no, I don't think we've seen the last of Gavin Newsom. And I think he
01:27:52.040absolutely can rebrand and live to fight another day. So that's the black pill is 90% of the0.82
01:27:57.800Democrats that tried to lock you in your homes and give you a vaccine that was untested in this
01:28:03.160long term effects and all this and, you know, killed your grandma and all these kinds of things.
01:28:07.360They're not going to jail. They're not getting fined. They have complete.
01:28:10.960Anthony Fauci is free. They're free and clear, living high on the hog, and they will receive
01:28:15.860zero accountability for their crimes and i do believe that they have committed many of them
01:28:21.140have committed legitimate crimes right so that's the black pill the black pill is they will live
01:28:24.980to fight another day and uh and they're doing just fine the white pill though is that um they0.58
01:28:30.480will move to the right they will you know just uh rebrand uh turn on a dime and uh and assume
01:28:38.840the center so here's the white pill is i don't think and so we we won't have a two-party system
01:28:43.700anymore like and i'm not a huge fan of our two-party system but i absolutely think we will
01:28:48.540continue to have a two-party system and so what it means is that in order to distinguish the two
01:28:53.540parties if the left assumes this the donald trump center then it'll actually be uh the distinguishing
01:29:02.180will be to the right of that um i think that um i think someone like gavin newsom right now i mean
01:29:09.000that was his first attempt with charlie kirk right he's two months in to his rebrand that's
01:29:13.300his first he's two hours in that interview into his rebrand you know and i mean honestly it's
01:29:18.300pretty good for for he's getting all the flack from the left for even trying right but if you
01:29:23.480think he's gonna just quit and go away no i think we're gonna see a lot more of this over the next
01:29:27.680four years he's gonna get pretty good at it and by the time we come up to an election i think it's
01:29:33.120entirely possible that gavin newsom will have moved so far to the right that um he'll be
01:29:39.280somewhat indistinguishable from trump right so then the so then what's where's your second party
01:29:46.000um so it's now maga and aoc no not a chance bernie sanders not a chance no it's maga and then it'll
01:29:54.340be a vance and it'll be vance actually over these next four years i think gavin will get close to
01:29:59.800Trump. Vance, I think, will begin slowly. He's very loyal to Trump and all that. But slowly over
01:30:05.000time, I think Vance will actually distinguish himself from Trump distinctly, definitively to
01:30:10.660Trump's right. And if it's not Vance, I think it'll be someone like that. And they'll probably,
01:30:16.020you know, have a hard time in 2028. But as the years go on, and the Overton continues to push
01:30:22.540and shift to the right, then that'll become a formidable party. And I think MAGA will be,
01:30:28.900uh that'll that'll quickly i think become the new left wing in america yep which is awesome so
01:30:36.960that's the white pill that i'm encouraged by right right the black pill was over the last 20 years
01:30:41.380i mean like even the 2004 democratic party platform i was reading it we want to balance
01:30:45.640the budget yep like that the the right mood i could fight a lot of positions like that
01:30:50.800bad 20 years but then totally can go the other direction and so we got some questions to get
01:30:57.660to but the last thing what does all this mean this is just a lot of partisan politics no it
01:31:02.180means we have four years to push to the right to set the overton to the right to watch jd vance
01:31:10.160as he observes as he interacts with and granted a lot of that's going to be elites and it's going
01:31:14.780to be governors and senators and all of that but as much as you have influence especially locally
01:31:19.020and especially at the state level pushing the overton window as far as it can go so by the time
01:31:24.620we get to 2028 because again it's probably not going to be a radical leftist that wins the
01:31:29.700nomination if it does i mean what a gift sent that is just gift wrapped all that but assuming
01:31:35.300it's going to be a probably pretty moderate it's going to be on us to be a greater and greater
01:31:39.300distinction so that when people look at them they say man that still represents the kind of lousy
01:31:44.780politics the worst part we voted we voted for that at the time because it was the best we had
01:31:51.360but now we have a better option right absolutely better yeah i i agree with you 100 one other
01:31:56.300thought that i just randomly had but i think it's worth saying is um one issue this is this is not
01:32:02.060a prescription this is a a um prediction prediction one one easy way right if you're a politician
01:32:10.160and you've got your finger in the air and seeing which way the winds are blowing and you want to
01:32:13.920distinguish yourself from the rest of the dc swamp you know and have your own distinguished unique
01:32:20.080party uh but you know but like here's the catch-22 you can you can be unique and distinguished
01:32:26.500but you'll probably also be unpopular because you're you're a rarity you're a novelty you know
01:32:31.900you're outside like MAGA is the thing right now it is the thing and so to to step to the left or
01:32:37.320to the right of MAGA puts you in the minority you know so that so that's the catch-22 the downside
01:32:42.340you become a minority and so your chances of winning might be slim uh the upside is well you're
01:32:48.200you've you've got some kind of issue that makes you distinct and causes you to stand out so it's
01:32:52.560like you get visibility but not popularity that's the catch-22 so how could you accomplish you know
01:32:58.420both how could you distinguish yourself from trump from mega and from all the rest of dc for that
01:33:04.740matter from virtually you know 99.9 percent of politicians in america and yet also in terms of
01:33:13.100the base of america the voters the constituents um find an issue that's becoming rapidly popular
01:33:20.260that the majority of americans might side with you on i already know what is it israel israel
01:33:26.280yep being against israel thomas massey is one of the most it's that's his approval rating is great
01:33:33.260and he's loved by the entire nation and he's very against israel's influence in our government
01:33:37.160Anybody who comes in and runs with the best of MAGA, but the distinguishing quality being no more greatest ally, that person will win in the landslide.0.53
01:33:49.660Not today they won't, but in a couple years they will.
01:33:57.900You are talking about one of the quickest phenomenons that I've witnessed going mainstream, from Joe Rogan and Ian Carroll to Martyr Maid and Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens.
01:34:12.020And, I mean, the list goes on and on and on and on.
01:34:15.580And if you think, yep, and that's it, it's done now.
01:34:19.980Support for Israel will go back up to 70% in no time.
01:58:39.560Even though they were already two parties, it was the Federalists and the Anti-Federalists from the beginning.
01:58:43.200was the you know the whigs and the um tories from the beginning but um i don't know yeah
01:58:50.160i don't want what europe has that's for sure i don't see our system no it's not going to
01:58:54.400even the architecture of the capitol building is built around two parties there's two cloak rooms
01:59:00.000there's two entrances there's the two halves like even when when someone's a third party or green
01:59:05.040party or something like that independent they they have to put them in with one of the two major
01:59:08.720parties for their location right there's a great system called the monarchy that evades all of that
01:59:15.040yeah uh super chat two dollars from belushi uh proviolan he says what's the natural law view
01:59:23.460of neutrality natural law view of neutrality well because we say neutrality is a myth
01:59:29.020yeah neutrality presupposition opposition that would say there are no facts that man doesn't
01:59:34.360interpret from his pre-existing kind of orientation or worldview if you want to use that term and so
01:59:40.660because of that because the mind of the natural man is hostile to god he doesn't approach any
01:59:45.380fact neutrally so he looks at biology and he says look what evolution did because he's hostile to
01:59:50.260god he doesn't want to acknowledge his lordship so i guess he's kind of asking if you would not
01:59:54.080be presuppositional and not be theonomic who would take the common kingdom and the natural law and
01:59:58.980more classical apologetics view what would be the view of neutrality does neutrality exist in that
02:00:04.520system would you take the same moniker that's a good question that is a good question i actually
02:00:09.580yeah i'm like i want to go home and research that i don't have a good answer for that yep
02:00:13.260i'm not sure for me personally it it's not a hindrance because in that sense i've remained
02:00:20.560presuppositional like i think i said a few weeks ago um for me presuppositionalism even in you know
02:00:28.200like listening to you know og guys like bonson um you know or or van till um for me presuppositionalism
02:00:37.780it never meant that you can't appeal to nature or to logic or to like there are laws outside of the
02:00:46.000scripture right sola scriptura even just like a lot of this comes down to the solas and as a
02:00:50.500protestant sola scriptura never meant that scripture was the only authority it just means
02:00:54.840it's the only infallible authority. And of all these other authorities, number one, they're
02:00:59.620fallible, they can err. And number two, they're subordinates. So scripture is the highest and
02:01:03.820it's the only infallible authority. And it's the same kind of concept for me applied to
02:01:08.380how far I take my presuppositionalism. Meaning that for me to be presuppositional is in answering
02:01:17.900the question of what comes first, the chicken or the egg? That if the chicken, in this analogy,
02:01:24.840represents the Bible, well, then it's answering the chicken every time. So for me, I would appeal0.95
02:01:30.460to natural law. I would appeal to the laws of logic. I would appeal to experience. I would
02:01:34.600appeal to people's emotions and try to exercise the pathos, passions, and all this storytelling.
02:01:41.820Stories are powerful. We need stories on the right. It can't just be charts and stats. It also has to
02:01:47.140be stories and examples and compelling narratives and all these kinds of things, but all of them
02:01:53.560are subordinate to the Word of God. So for me, what it means to be presuppositional is
02:01:57.300that I believe that this particular story is good, true, and beautiful because I believe that it
02:02:03.740accurately embodies the goodness and trueness and beauty that comes from the Bible. Or I'm
02:02:11.660appealing to nature, but I'm appealing to nature as an authority. It is an authority. But I'm
02:02:17.300trusting in my five senses and observation, the scientific method, and what I can, you know,
02:02:23.060what I can observe in nature because at the end of the day, the Bible tells me that nature is not
02:02:30.800happenstance. It's not chaotic or random or arbitrary, but it was actually orderly fashioned
02:02:37.140and designed by an intelligent creator, the triune God. And so it's because the Bible tells me so,
02:02:43.200because what the Bible tells me about the created order, that I value natural law.
02:02:50.500Like, I think that's what kind of won me over from, you know, and this isn't all presuppositional guys by any stretch.
02:02:58.540There's some really good presuppositional guys that I still really appreciate.
02:03:02.160But some of them, you know, some of them, I think, kind of degraded to the point where it's like every argument is basically just reciting Romans chapter 1.
02:07:18.640However, you know what, Elon, as you then being evil know how to give good gifts?0.84
02:07:23.260You know what Elon still gets as a totally depraved, hell-bound reprobate?
02:07:28.280um he knows that uh extinction of the human population maybe isn't a good thing
02:07:33.240who would have thought right so like so so i can appeal to that with elon and it and i don't even
02:07:40.540have to have a bible verse like now for me ultimately the bible is my reasoning that's why
02:07:46.080i'm doing everything that i'm doing and it's the highest authority and it's the truth it's it's
02:07:50.600when you get to the bottom it's like well because nature says so okay and but how can you trust
02:07:54.640nature because my five senses are reliable and how can you show that because a rational mind
02:07:58.820and how because god because god that's what makes me still presuppositional i believe is because
02:08:03.760my final answer the ultimate answer the bottom the foundation under it all is because the bible
02:08:09.640told me so the bible because the bible says so and in that sense um and i'm convinced that that's
02:08:15.080all that's really required ultimately in the truest sense um to be presuppositional um i don't
02:08:20.560think that a lot of the modern presuppositional arguments are necessary in order to be
02:08:24.900presuppositional. And so all that being said, I think we can be co-belligerents with Catholics
02:08:29.680on a ton of things. Praise God, I'm grateful for many of them. With Eastern Orthodox guys on a ton
02:08:36.420of things. And then even rippling out beyond that, we can be co-belligerents with Mormons1.00
02:08:42.760on a lot of things. Mormons like to have kids. I like that too. And then even beyond that,0.63
02:08:50.560We can be, you know, co-belligerents with guys who voted for Joe Biden in 2020 and just realize that Democrats might not be a good idea in 2022, like Elon Musk.
02:09:03.740And because we can appeal to these other things, and I don't think that means, you know, like, well, Joel's embracing natural law and he's making arguments from nature and logic and this kind of, you know, so he's, you know, officially handed back in his presuppositional card.
02:09:17.180I have been under the persuasion that that was never against, you know, in contradiction to presuppositionalism to begin with.
02:09:28.400I'll do my best to answer from, say, Stephen Wolf's perspective.
02:09:31.660I read his book, I think, three times.
02:09:33.740So I just, in regards to the question of self-neutrality, I think there's a difference between theological neutrality when it comes to assertions of the truth of God,
02:09:42.060of the necessity of repentance and faith in jesus and then properties that are anthropological to
02:09:47.420man and so in that sense maybe the presuppositionalist across the board is saying
02:09:51.580neutrality in any of these areas in law and government and home and this side of the other
02:09:56.200neutrality is non-existent but then i think some natural law guys and again if i could do my best
02:10:00.960to say what maybe stephen wolf would say is yes that is certainly true it's in the bible especially
02:10:05.600theologically when it comes to anthropological category we're not necessarily thinking in
02:10:10.120theological presuppositions but much more so what is taught to us about government and law and all
02:10:16.240those things so i think if i could get into the mind of someone that would advocate for a natural
02:10:20.420law approach versus a theonomic they would say that about neutrality they would say that proper
02:10:25.520reasoning will lead to right conclusions about natural issues regardless of who's doing the
02:10:30.520reasoning yep and even theologically yes they have shortcuts or deficiencies still as man being men
02:10:38.360they can leverage reason to greater and lesser degrees right to arrive at sometimes true
02:10:43.180conclusions right nobody nobody has ever reasoned themselves to salvation nope but um but you can
02:10:49.900reason yourself to uh stopping human extinction you can reason yourself you can reason yourself
02:10:56.680to god existing aristotle and plato both right yeah god is real exist and made all things right
02:11:01.700and that actually is romans one and so like yeah and and i think with law specifically
02:11:08.520there may be some categories that would differ but law is i mean all law is is
02:11:14.620the the imposition of morality someone so so when it comes to law i think that that's something that
02:11:22.200i could i could talk to an unbeliever like elon musk could be sitting in this room who again i
02:11:26.820think is is hell bound and and i think he i in 15 seconds uh i could i could get him to agree
02:11:34.060uh that in the realm of law right neutrality is a myth because that's all law is is it's
02:11:40.200legislating morality right someone's morality like every single law that exists is is always
02:11:47.580from the basis of this is morally good this is morally reprehensible and um always and so i i
02:11:55.600actually think that um you know that you could you could convince an a non-believer about that
02:12:02.820in the realm of law i don't i'd have to think of every single category in society and whether or
02:12:07.440not but with something like law and and and the political i think i think politics is there's no
02:12:15.040neutrality in politics and i think that too uh that you could you could substantiate that argument
02:12:20.800that neutrality is a myth in the realm of the political and the realm of law um because um
02:12:28.900both are inherently moral they're moral categories yep now we would argue all day long about and now
02:12:37.160what is moral you know and uh and we'd have very different ideas but i think you know elon even in
02:12:43.160his you know infamous tweet in 2022 when he said like all right i'm switching over and i'm gonna
02:12:47.760to vote for uh republican now um he even in that morality was the language in which he expressed
02:12:55.020that that transition he said i used to think that the democrats were the party of um kindness and
02:13:02.500compassion so what is he expressing he's saying um man is a political animal everyone's political
02:13:09.640i too am not above it all nobody's really above it all that even that is a is a political strategy
02:13:15.420to somehow you know get your way you know or appear to be you know whatever so everyone's
02:13:19.920political i'm a political animal and in the realm of the political um i voted for one political
02:13:24.800party because i thought it was the more moral party right and the minute that i realized that
02:13:30.480they weren't and that another party was um morally superior to that then i switched political
02:13:36.600allegiance which to bring it full circle my last comment here is um the left one