The NXR Podcast - THE LIVESTREAM - How England’s Elites Abandoned Their Country’s Children

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00:00:26.820 you've probably heard the news stories about the grooming gangs of allegedly asian men

00:00:36.860 in oldham england the story is horrific but it must be talked about because it illustrates why

00:00:44.560 christians are right to build preserve and defend their cultures is england lost and if so what does

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00:04:47.620 And this is one of them. What's going on in England has to be talked about. We need to apply

00:04:51.600 a biblical Christian worldview. But this does happen to be one of those topics that I would not 0.96

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00:05:15.140 your driving. But this is not a family-friendly episode. All right.

00:05:19.360 Yeah. Well, what we want to do, we don't, we're not a news program. We're not reporting on the

00:05:26.240 news. There are groups and podcasts and newspapers that are doing that. So we are trying to get to

00:05:33.480 something about, you know, partway through the episode. We want to offer commentary and a biblical

00:05:39.280 perspective on it. But in order to set the stage for that commentary, we do have to talk about

00:05:45.240 what's going on and give some details, because to just say there have been a series of rapes in

00:05:51.480 England and then start talking about it from a Christian perspective, people would say, well,

00:05:55.580 you guys are way overreacting. Like, yeah, rape is bad, but you guys are way overreacting. And so 0.54

00:06:02.120 given that we want to kind of let the seriousness and the depth to which some of this is going on

00:06:08.600 and being tolerated and promoted

00:06:11.000 by the English legal system itself.

00:06:14.500 I do wanna take a few minutes here

00:06:16.600 and kind of set some of the events, okay?

00:06:19.600 So actually, this was all started

00:06:22.680 by a series of news stories right around the new year,

00:06:27.020 January 1st, 2nd, 3rd, somewhere right around there,

00:06:29.900 talking about how there had been a series

00:06:32.500 of grooming gangs by Asian men. 0.99

00:06:35.560 And I've read a number of articles in newspapers from England, and they all said, we have to 0.79

00:06:41.520 say Asian men, but when we do, we all know we're talking about Pakistani men.

00:06:45.120 Right.

00:06:45.400 So every time we say Asian men, if you're listening on Apple or Spotify, and you're

00:06:49.520 not watching it on X or YouTube or, you know, rightresponseministries.com or our app or 0.80

00:06:54.220 anything like that, if it's not visual, just assume that every time we say Asian men, pretty

00:06:59.600 much all three of us are doing the biggest quotation marks sign language with our hands 0.74

00:07:05.340 that you can possibly imagine because it's a joke well they are asian but like wes said before the

00:07:11.500 show oh japanese are are in england no no it is a particular japanese in england right now 0.95

00:07:17.780 you know they've comprised gangs doing terrible things yeah no that's not happening um so um

00:07:24.700 elon musk i don't know how but he got a hold of some of these stories and some of the graphic

00:07:30.520 nature which we're not even going to read some of the the extremely graphic things on the show today

00:07:35.700 But they just, they devastated him.

00:07:38.300 And the idea that there were gangs of men who had been victimizing, grooming, raping, 0.86

00:07:43.780 taking advantage of, even killing, in some cases, young British white girls without consequence,

00:07:54.300 for the most part, there have been some, but largely without consequence, it just shocked 0.64

00:07:59.100 and appalled him.

00:07:59.700 And if you guys remember, like one of the reasons he kind of went against woke was what happened to his son, the way his son was tranced.

00:08:09.680 Xavier or something, I think was his name.

00:08:11.840 And so for him, this actually kind of follows a pattern for him.

00:08:14.560 He sees, okay, wait, we're doing what to kids in England now?

00:08:17.560 And so he tweeted out some tweets about this.

00:08:20.900 And it's interesting that the prime minister of England has separated himself from those tweets.

00:08:28.360 He has said, you know, that's inflammatory and unnecessary.

00:08:30.980 But the tweets, because he's the most, the richest man in the world, has the biggest

00:08:35.340 platform in the world, it has set off a firestorm in the media and in social commentary.

00:08:41.940 What is interesting to me is that what's going on in Oldham is not just part of a larger

00:08:47.420 pattern in England.

00:08:48.360 It's actually part of a larger pattern in Europe.

00:08:50.060 I don't know if you guys remember, but back in 2016, there were all the sexual assault

00:08:54.840 and abuse cases that happened on New Year's Eve,

00:08:58.160 2015 to 2016.

00:09:00.140 This was in Cologne.

00:09:02.560 And later in Berlin, 0.88

00:09:03.920 there were similar outbreaks of Muslim men 0.99

00:09:07.040 gang violence and sexual assault against women. 0.99

00:09:09.980 And it happened in Sweden too.

00:09:11.520 And if you guys know who Tim Pool is,

00:09:13.540 he actually got his notoriety

00:09:15.480 because he went to Sweden

00:09:16.780 and he talked to people on the ground.

00:09:18.740 And they said,

00:09:19.540 we are not allowed to publicly talk

00:09:21.500 about the fact that this is going.

00:09:22.980 We'll get in trouble.

00:09:23.760 the media has been cut off from this, but there is a rash of sexual violence by the, I think there 1.00

00:09:31.980 was more the Somali refugees that Sweden had brought in. And so this is actually part of 0.90

00:09:38.240 something that's going on in a lot of Christian or formerly Christian Europe. And Elon Musk

00:09:44.580 poked to the bear today with a particular tweet about the statistics and the numbers in Europe.

00:09:50.040 So we're going to show this tweet that he posted earlier today.

00:09:54.720 I guess he retweeted it.

00:09:57.040 The original tweet said,

00:09:58.920 studies show that men from non-European origin commit 84% of assault rapes

00:10:04.540 despite only making up around 10% of the population.

00:10:08.560 An Algerian is 122 times more likely to commit aggravated rape

00:10:12.780 than a Swede, and an Afghan is 69 times more likely. 0.97

00:10:18.480 122 times. 0.96

00:10:19.660 Yep.

00:10:20.040 more likely yeah 84 percent is committed of these atrocious crimes is being committed by

00:10:28.500 10 well and maybe half although i think there are more men who have immigrated than women 0.88

00:10:34.620 but if you assume like maybe six percent of the the muslim population is men right and four percent 0.99

00:10:40.280 women or something like that like it's even more disproportionate than so then yeah that's a great 1.00

00:10:44.360 point. It's predominantly the men that are doing this, if not almost exclusively. So then that 10% 0.99

00:10:51.840 gets knocked down to 5% or 6%, which means that in terms of multiples, your 122 times becomes

00:10:59.220 like 140 times. Your 69 times becomes like 140 times. That's absurd. And you're not allowed to

00:11:08.160 talk about these things um but if you have a section a relatively small subset of the population

00:11:16.040 that is endangering everyone else at a horrific atrocious degree and level um then as civil 0.53

00:11:25.740 magistrates civil fathers if you look at you know like um the puritans thomas watson and different

00:11:31.060 guys like that you know talk about even in the fifth commandment to honor thy father there are

00:11:34.740 different kinds of fathers. There are ancient fathers, like we would honor, you know, Augustine,

00:11:38.960 we would honor Constantine, we would honor Athanasius, you know, Origen, Irenaeus, like

00:11:44.220 there are multiple, you know, ancient fathers that we honor. But then there are spiritual fathers,

00:11:49.480 ecclesiastical fathers, even to this day, you know, think of your pastor, you know, you think

00:11:53.180 of those who are ordained officers in the ecclesiastical realm. And then there are familial

00:11:58.380 fathers, like your little father and mother in the fifth commandment that's explicit. But then

00:12:03.280 there are also not just ancient or spiritual or familial, but there are civil fathers that should

00:12:08.180 be honored as well. And you look at, you know, Stephen Wolf's conception of, you know,

00:12:13.820 the Christian prince, and then our American scheme, our political scheme that we prefer,

00:12:18.500 we're Americans, we think it's good. Much of our founding, there are problems, but much of our

00:12:22.040 founding we view positively, then, you know, if the Christian prince scares you, well, then just

00:12:27.500 add an es at the end uh christian princes um that you know that there would uh be be more it wouldn't

00:12:33.500 just be a monarch but there would be multiple christian princes um but you look at again back

00:12:37.940 to thomas watson and in his you know uh late great puritan his work the ten commandments on the fifth

00:12:43.380 commandment with civil fathers he says he describes them uh using some of the language that the

00:12:48.020 apostle paul uses in sacred scripture and talks about nursing fathers um that they that they

00:12:52.880 really have a fatherly role to protect their citizens. It's not H-1B. For their nation,

00:13:00.900 they're obligated to their nation, and that means they're obligated to the people that make up their

00:13:05.180 nation, that place, that people. That obligation towards their nation, America first, if we use

00:13:10.460 our country, does not mean that America is likened to a sports ball team and that America needs to

00:13:18.280 win the next global championship, and it doesn't matter if Americans actually get any game time. 0.53

00:13:25.080 We can actually bench all the Americans, aka, unemploy them, and we can go ahead and substitute 0.94

00:13:31.960 and transfer in a bunch of Hindus, just so long as America wins the race for AI, or wins the race 0.97

00:13:40.420 for going to Mars, or wins... GDP goes up. Exactly. As long as the team wins. No, no. America first 0.94

00:13:46.180 means Americans first. That's what it should mean. If that's not what it means, that's totally fine. 0.90

00:13:51.640 You're just, you're wrong. It should mean the people of this country. And so that's the duty

00:13:57.500 of civil fathers to their people. And if native Englishmen, if native Brits who can track their

00:14:07.560 ancestry to that piece of land for a thousand years plus are being, their daughters are literally

00:14:14.700 being ravaged by a small subset of the population that has been there for less than a century in 0.92

00:14:22.020 some cases um for 15 minutes some somalians and things like that um then what you do is you round 0.99

00:14:30.380 them up and you deport them and the ones who've committed crimes you go even further you're gonna

00:14:36.180 you're gonna be surprised by michael's gonna be based today no it just this has been attempted

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00:15:56.860 So in England specifically, the population of, the Muslim population is about 6.3%.

00:16:02.300 Actually, Pakistanis have been immigrating to England since the 1930s.

00:16:06.200 So it's not just in the last 10 or 15 years, but the number and the different regions,

00:16:15.200 Somalia, North Africa, Pakistan, that has increased quite a bit over the last couple of decades.

00:16:22.160 At bare minimum, what we can say, and this is just the convictions that we know of,

00:16:27.100 But over the last decades, there's been a minimum of about 2,000 underage girls, some very young, and we're talking five years old, that have been groomed, trafficked, and even killed predominantly throughout northern and central England.

00:16:42.960 And the number's probably much higher than that.

00:16:46.860 These are just the ones that they've managed to have convictions on.

00:16:49.320 um and then the percentage is the same the convictions the vast majority of the perpetrators

00:16:55.900 of this have been a Pakistani Somali and North African Muslim men it's 84 percent 84 percent um

00:17:01.820 even the ones that are white are part of a gang that's run by these Asian men so even the ones

00:17:11.080 that are well they fall outside of that yes have been influenced yes it's like having yeah it's 0.86

00:17:16.600 like sending your kids to public school and your kids end up doing some bad things but part of it

00:17:20.700 is their influence but you know yeah so in every every single level like if you add that i wonder

00:17:25.500 like with the 16 percent my you know the the other side of the 84 um that is part of the native

00:17:31.460 population um i wonder how how much lower that number would get without the influence of these 0.97

00:17:38.160 foreign people who are committing atrocious crimes that basically what we're saying is it sounds like 1.00

00:17:42.660 if it wasn't for this foreign influence and you know and and the trojan horse of dei and and don't 0.99

00:17:50.540 be a racist you know and um like you could almost eradicate yep like virtually eradicate the 0.74

00:17:57.700 entirety of these horrific crimes which which are happening it's not just happening to um the british

00:18:03.660 you know heads of households you know like like grown men in their 40s and 50s you know who are

00:18:08.160 the penalty is that they're taking a pay cut you know or being overlooked for the next promotion

00:18:12.360 but you're talking literally the equation is is this this simple in my mind you guys correct me

00:18:17.160 if i'm i'm being hyperbolic but it seems as though the equation is um uh older brits have a very

00:18:24.980 clear choice it's um uh you can either be called racist by strangers who hate you um and preserve

00:18:33.800 your daughters or you can offer your daughters up as a a human sacrifice to foreigners and

00:18:41.400 strangers who worship demon gods um but meets your dei quotas and be uh considered a tolerant

00:18:49.780 person that's the headline of the story well on the foreigners piece too we've talked a little

00:18:53.380 bit about high trust before that's exactly what you would expect is those type of people they 1.00

00:18:58.100 have no grounding in a place so i've said before my grandma told me about growing up and she's

00:19:02.240 probably in her like mid-70s so she's not really like that old this is an america that existed like

00:19:07.320 within her lifetime. But she would just go to the playground at school. Nobody would have a second

00:19:12.000 thought. Go to the corner store. And why didn't people do terrible things? Why weren't kidnapping

00:19:16.900 so prevalent? Well, not necessarily probably because every single person was regenerate.

00:19:21.240 Probably a good majority of them actually were. But even those that weren't regenerate, the

00:19:24.960 mechanism that God has given to many people to help restrain the wickedness, even of unbelievers, 0.67

00:19:30.560 is you take them and you put them in the same place. And then for generation upon generation 0.96

00:19:34.680 upon generation they do life together they attend the same schools they build up shops together

00:19:40.540 they do life and then when you think about it would you go to your local this just happened

00:19:45.120 in england local dance studio and i don't know stab six young girls to death well of course not

00:19:50.520 my my mom used to teach there i grew up with that teacher these girls are the cousins or the

00:19:56.240 neighbors this that or the other you want to do it because it would be subconsciously engraved

00:20:01.140 into your own conscience, your own mind that to do that would be to do it to myself. I think of,

00:20:06.600 you know, Ephesians 5, and obviously that's specifically talking about the covenant bond

00:20:10.640 of marriage. And so that's a more potent bond. That would be a higher degree, so I'm going to

00:20:15.400 argue from the greater, but give, I think, a same principle conception to the lesser. Well, at the

00:20:20.740 greater level, the covenant of marriage, which is stronger, I have a further obligation to my wife

00:20:26.060 than I do my national fellow citizens.

00:20:29.020 But the language that's used there by the Apostle Paul

00:20:31.960 underneath the inspiration of the Holy Spirit

00:20:34.320 is that no one harms or inflicts self-harm

00:20:39.680 on his own body, his own flesh,

00:20:41.240 but rather nourishes his flesh.

00:20:43.540 And the view there is that the body is,

00:20:50.140 his wife is his body. 0.72

00:20:52.160 She is a very extension of himself

00:20:54.140 that he wants to lend towards her flourishing

00:20:56.960 because it's his own flourishing.

00:20:58.460 If she suffers, he suffers,

00:21:00.560 that you're attached to one another.

00:21:02.360 But when you have these in-group and out-group dynamics

00:21:05.320 and in-group and out-group preferences 1.00

00:21:07.760 because you've invited the third world into your country 1.00

00:21:11.620 and they haven't assimilated 0.93

00:21:13.780 and they have no intention of assimilated,

00:21:15.460 but you've done it in mass

00:21:16.520 so that they actually at a practical level

00:21:18.080 don't ever have to assimilate.

00:21:19.500 They can all just centralize and focus 0.96

00:21:21.860 in one little tiny British, you know, town, and they never even need to learn how to speak English 0.91

00:21:27.160 because they can just talk to one another and they can prefer one another, then they're not

00:21:31.540 doing that to themselves. They're doing it to you. And it's very much etched into their consciences

00:21:37.060 of this, you know, there's us and them, us and them. But people don't degrade, typically, just

00:21:44.820 by natural instincts, because people are created in the image of God. So even apart, like Wes said,

00:21:49.540 apart from regeneration, apart from a new heart by the work of the Spirit and regeneration,

00:21:55.180 even fallen man, unregenerate man, but still made in the image of God, is like people are

00:22:01.940 not naturally suicidal, right?

00:22:03.640 It's always a subset, a fraction of the population that would actually take their own life in

00:22:08.700 a literal sense.

00:22:09.880 And it's not because you have to, you know, train people, you know, and do years and years

00:22:14.640 of counseling from the age of three to teach people why suicide would be bad and all these

00:22:18.900 it's instinctive. Like when Jesus says, love your neighbor as yourself, you know, a bunch of

00:22:23.460 woke, you know, feminists, you know, in evangelical circles have said, see, the first law is to love

00:22:28.820 yourself because you can't love your neighbor as yourself if you don't love yourself. Jesus is not,

00:22:32.880 he's not prescribing self-love as a prerequisite to loving others. He's assuming self-love. So,

00:22:39.200 he's not saying, work on loving yourself more, therefore you can love others more. No, Jesus is

00:22:44.620 love your neighbor as yourself, assuming that it's built into human fabric, that everybody,

00:22:49.860 whether they're born again of the Spirit or not, they all love themselves. You love yourself every

00:22:54.780 time you eat a meal. You love yourself every time you breathe, instead of holding your breath until

00:22:59.220 you pass out. We all instinctively love ourself. And so the husband-wife dynamic, Ephesians 5,

00:23:05.440 is just a further fleshing out of that, that the wife should be viewed as an extension of the

00:23:11.780 husband's self that she is the body and then you go further from that the children and then you go

00:23:16.420 further from that the grandparents and the aunts and the uncles and eventually in similitude you

00:23:20.720 have a nation the likeliness we share history we share morals we share religion we share holidays

00:23:26.540 like that parade that the guy just drove the truck into people don't do that because it's like wait

00:23:31.540 these are the people that i've shared everything with we live in the same land we remember the

00:23:37.080 same history we go to the same movies we eat the same why would i do that share a main street right

00:23:41.620 Why would I do that to these people that are like me?

00:23:44.920 Right.

00:23:45.580 My people.

00:23:46.880 Well, it's interesting because even the people investigating this, that there have been investigations over time, but even the people investigating it do not want to live in reality.

00:23:56.060 So I have a quote here from, this was a number of years ago, a guy who was investigating a rash of outbreak of some of these grooming gangs.

00:24:05.500 And his name is Haras Rafiq.

00:24:07.980 But nevertheless, he was investigating it.

00:24:09.700 And so, Nate, we'll do that first quote.

00:24:12.680 He said, this is at the end of the conclusion of the report.

00:24:16.160 He said, we didn't want there to be a pattern of people from our ethnic demographic carrying out these attacks.

00:24:21.360 But unfortunately, we were proven wrong.

00:24:23.660 Now, right as soon as he said that, he says, Mr. Afzal also warned gang grooming was not the most common form of child sexual abuse. 0.75

00:24:32.360 And it's like, OK, guys, they're actually and it's true on the books.

00:24:35.820 there are more like just you know individual like an abusive father that sort of thing like

00:24:41.180 there's just more population of that and so the point is this guy is like we don't want there to

00:24:46.220 be a particular type of person that's doing that and by the way all those white people like just 0.60

00:24:53.340 by proportion of population there are more sexual assaults that are not carried out by gangs of 0.75

00:24:58.800 grooming um and it's like nothing to see here and even if there was something to see here this is

00:25:03.700 not a big deal right and it's like well no this is a huge deal that's the same here's why it matters

00:25:09.440 it's this it's the same as like when we did our episode during june of last year you know um

00:25:16.500 sodomy month you know like um and we gave the statistics and and we drew that you know the

00:25:23.240 straight line from um i'm gay to i'm a pedophile right and saying uh not a coincidence the 0.53

00:25:32.500 statistics are exponentially higher for particularly gay men right scissors sisters not as much but 0.99

00:25:39.620 for gay men sodomites um real straight line all right it's a real gay line but you know you get 0.99

00:25:45.600 my point real straight line um from gay men to uh grooming children and and what we were trying to 0.99

00:25:53.980 say is uh perversion reaps perversion the the scripture talks about sin you don't wake up in 0.87

00:25:59.580 the morning. Everybody is totally depraved, apart from salvation in Christ, which comes by grace

00:26:04.880 alone, through faith alone, in Christ alone. So everybody's a sinner, and even those who are

00:26:10.160 saved with new hearts, we still, the power of sin is broken, the penalty of sin is paid, but the

00:26:14.840 presence of sin still remains until the next life, when we see him, 1 John, we will be like him, for

00:26:20.880 we shall be as he is, sinless, as Christ is sinless. However, in the meantime, everybody's a sinner,

00:26:26.880 and the unregenerate are totally depraved sinners, but total depravity is distinct from

00:26:33.040 utter depravity. You can be totally depraved, and yet still, when it comes to, at the level of the

00:26:39.260 heart, inwardly, total depravity, but outwardly, in terms of physical, external manifestations of

00:26:45.220 sin, you can still be restrained in those outward expressions of sin because of fear. And that's a

00:26:53.000 good and biblical principle that's what romans 13 is all about that the civil magistrate does not

00:26:57.380 bear the sword in vain and that it keeps people in check that even the unregenerate totally depraved

00:27:03.940 individual uh thinks to himself and says you know like i mean there are people right now who i get

00:27:09.360 death threats but by god's grace this could change it's only the grace of god protecting me and my

00:27:14.880 family but by god's grace nobody's ever acted on it do you know why because they would probably go

00:27:20.580 to jail and so there are terrible people who hate me hate my children threaten my children who have

00:27:28.140 never acted upon it um in large part because fear of the sort fear of the sort that it actually

00:27:35.220 restrains and so my point in all of that is that um there's a straight line from uh uh the lgbt

00:27:44.320 you know q plus and you gotta ask what's the plus represent pedophiles that's what it represents 0.84

00:27:49.940 There's a straight line from that to child grooming and horrific acts of being sexual predators. 0.75

00:27:58.420 Now, you can't draw that with race and say there's a logical, a progression of sin straight line.

00:28:05.400 But you can see patterns.

00:28:08.880 And my point in that is, it's one thing, right?

00:28:12.700 Like these days, everybody's really worried about not being anti-Semitic or whatever.

00:28:18.280 And this episode is not about that.

00:28:19.940 I don't want to get into that. We've done plenty on it, and I'm sure we'll do plenty more in the

00:28:22.960 future. But I will say this, you know, noticing has become all the rage these days. Noticing,

00:28:28.860 noticing. And for those who are, you know, their greatest fear in the world is being called

00:28:35.980 anti-Semitic, then they're very anti-noticing. Well, it sounds like that's precisely where this

00:28:42.140 British prime minister is. Right? So it's one thing to where you always try to make something

00:28:47.540 a pattern john harris did a good job talking about you know the dangers of ideology ideology

00:28:51.940 part of the dangers of ideology and you can have christian ideology is it's like uh you you just

00:28:57.680 learned about calvinism so now everything's a nail everything is the tulip everything's you know

00:29:01.580 about uh you know unconditional election or limited detainment or whatever it's like oh that's that's

00:29:07.040 calvinism that's calvinism or you just became patriarchal and so everything is a problem of

00:29:11.820 feminism and and and that's that's absurd i would say only you know 99 percent of things are related

00:29:17.780 to like i'm a moderate exactly i'm a reasonable moderate person um or or then you get j-pilled

00:29:24.240 you know on the whole you know jewish question or whatever and you're like it's always the jewish

00:29:28.520 cabal you know you know every single time you know and you can track everything back you know

00:29:33.380 um and and so there are problems with being ideological and one of the in my opinion one

00:29:38.500 the incentives towards that frame of mind is because it's uh it's easy it's easy it's easy

00:29:43.780 seriously like it you know what's hard reading um old long books old doing the reading as they say

00:29:53.260 doing the reading is hard you know what's easy 4chan you know what's easy um just being on on

00:29:59.500 x all day and and getting j-pilled by you know whoever and and then saying oh i've i've figured

00:30:06.320 out the secret to all things. And I've also figured out the true test of orthodoxy. How do

00:30:09.740 I know if somebody's a false teacher or if they're faithful? How do I know if somebody's actually a

00:30:13.680 Christian or not? Well, it all depends on what they say about the Jews, you know? And so, and

00:30:19.000 you boil, it's this redactic oversimplification in reality. And it's like, well, why? Why is that

00:30:26.940 person? Well, I can tell you why. It's because you haven't done the reading. The reason why is

00:30:31.580 because reading Bovink's systematic theology is a lot more difficult than spending an afternoon

00:30:38.460 on 4chan. And so my point is, you know, there are patterns. There are patterns. We don't want

00:30:46.100 to say that this one pattern is the master key. That's what guys try to do. They try to take one

00:30:51.520 doctrine, post-millennialism. I've done that. They try to take one doctrine, like Calvinism.

00:30:56.500 I did that too, did my Calvinism cage stage. 0.98

00:31:00.420 So one doctrine, or they try to take one pattern, the Jews, you know, whatever, and they try 1.00

00:31:05.700 to make it the master key in order to compensate for their lack of knowledge in all these other 0.91

00:31:12.600 realms that also matter, because it's actually a multivariant situation.

00:31:16.460 However, on the flip side, there are a lot of guys, good Christian brothers that we love,

00:31:21.600 who I think are dead wrong and choosing to be part of the problem by saying that we basically,

00:31:28.000 it's one thing to go look for a pattern when there's not and try to force the square peg in

00:31:32.380 the circle hole and say there is a pattern when there's not. But it's another problem when there

00:31:38.520 are clear patterns that you will not allow yourself to recognize when the pattern is there

00:31:43.340 and you refuse to see it. And that can be with the month of June and gay men adopting children 0.95

00:31:54.000 and the incredibly high statistical likelihood of what happens when gay men adopt children, 0.84

00:32:00.940 and you just refuse to see that pattern. And it can be equally devastating when you refuse to see 0.68

00:32:07.280 a pattern of importing Pakistanis by the tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, into a country

00:32:16.580 that is largely incompatible with their faith, their religion, their culture, and then just 0.99

00:32:24.960 setting them loose on the native population of young girls. There's a pattern there also. 0.94

00:32:31.960 The thing we talked about it before, too, this would be most more refugees from Africa,

00:32:35.560 but some from pakistan there's not conceptions in these cultures and in these languages of

00:32:40.360 reciprocity and consent is a little bit of a egalitarian framing but of sexual consent we

00:32:46.260 it was probably about six months ago now but there's these africans and they're being interviewed 1.00

00:32:49.840 and it's like uh well what if the woman doesn't want to be molested they couldn't fathom it right 0.96

00:32:55.900 wait we that's what you just do like in these i've read stories about these ngos and these aid

00:33:00.760 workers that go in and they're like it's just commonplace that boys just if they want to have 0.79

00:33:04.740 sex with someone in public they just do it so you have people that don't even have a concept of

00:33:09.400 hey this person might not want this how how could you what would you think would happen

00:33:14.420 like how blind does someone have to be to think you could take all of these people and you can

00:33:17.800 put them in there and the soil will change all of that that they'll suddenly understand western

00:33:21.660 values around sex and consent and all of that and just be magically imparted to them of course it

00:33:27.120 won't it couldn't possibly be soil well there was there was one case in particular in england where

00:33:32.360 the guy went to trial they had evidence against him and when he got up on the stand he said

00:33:37.420 i've never been taught this is wrong and the judge goes oh okay well we're gonna let you go

00:33:42.700 but now you know it's wrong don't do it anymore crazy all right so michael has planned a lot for

00:33:50.460 this episode um there's a lot of quotes that we want to get to and so this is what we're going to

00:33:55.360 do we're going to go to our first commercial break we're going to come back i'm going to

00:33:59.320 temper myself and give Michael the reins so that we hear a lot from him. Wes also has, he didn't

00:34:04.760 prepare for this. Michael and Wes, they do a lot of the writing for each individual episode. So

00:34:10.400 this episode is Michael's episode. But the larger topic in general, Wes has done a lot of the

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00:38:34.880 All right, welcome back.

00:38:36.480 What I want to do now is spend a few minutes

00:38:38.820 and go through a couple of specific places and times

00:38:42.680 where this has happened in England,

00:38:44.660 where the grooming gangs,

00:38:46.140 because throughout the history of the last couple decades,

00:38:49.020 it does make it into the press occasionally,

00:38:51.360 that this is going on,

00:38:52.620 it flares up a little bit like a grease fire,

00:38:54.560 and it gets put out immediately.

00:38:56.320 So I want to show a map, first of all,

00:38:58.540 of England, and some of the towns where this has been most prominently happening since mid-1990s,

00:39:08.440 okay? So, Rochdale, Rotterham, Oldham, and then, I can't read the orange, I should have used a

00:39:16.480 different color, but anyway. Petersburg? Petersburg, yep. Okay, now, Nate, show the next slide,

00:39:21.580 please. So that green band across the middle in the north, that mostly lines up with towns. The

00:39:30.140 maps are slightly different scale, but Rochdale, Rotherham, Oldham, Petersburg. Now, there's a big

00:39:37.720 green population up there, and the green is where Muslims have settled in England,

00:39:43.060 and then around London also. But what's interesting, not interesting, what's tragic,

00:39:48.100 is these cities in northern and central England

00:39:52.100 where there have been the worst abuses,

00:39:55.780 actually, you would think,

00:39:56.820 well, why isn't it happening more around London?

00:39:58.340 There's lots of Muslims settled in London. 0.98

00:40:01.680 Well, what they have found actually 0.96

00:40:03.200 is the houses in the centers,

00:40:05.660 and it's so deep.

00:40:07.320 Like there's taxi drivers in on it

00:40:09.540 and there's real estate agents in on it.

00:40:11.300 And so they know when a house is vacant

00:40:12.800 for a long period of time.

00:40:14.320 And so they'll just go into these vacant houses

00:40:15.920 and then they'll put out ads

00:40:17.440 or not public ads, but they'll put the word out and Muslim men from London are driving up to these

00:40:23.800 towns. And so it's publicly somehow advertised, they're being paid. And, and there's, there's

00:40:29.840 like a whole network of it. It's well, as I'm going to share a story here in a minute, you'll

00:40:34.440 see how deep some of this network goes. Let me note too, like Rotterdam, I looked at some of

00:40:38.500 the demographics, like an 85% white, 80% Christian town. Yep. So you have a town that's, that's

00:40:45.240 European, white, Christian, and targeted. 0.98

00:40:48.460 All of these towns are probably small rural towns of people that go back a long time,

00:40:52.940 one of those regions where my family's from back 800 years ago, that have lived there,

00:40:57.700 loved it, raised their children, and just exported out to these wicked people. 1.00

00:41:02.660 And that's what, like, that it's a particularly Christian town. 1.00

00:41:06.300 That's what makes me think.

00:41:07.360 It's not just, when you think of motives, like, why?

00:41:12.080 When you think, why do the wicked do what the wicked do?

00:41:14.120 i i refuse to believe that it's merely i think it's it's this it's not less than this but it's

00:41:19.160 more than this i i don't think it's merely sadistic um sadistic sexual pleasure right

00:41:24.440 i think it's also to demoralize uh christian westerners is to demoralize christian nations

00:41:31.540 to defeat them i was gonna say this later but it fits in now and this is the warning for if you

00:41:37.420 have kids this is just not the episode to listen to yeah you shouldn't be yeah they should have

00:41:40.760 we were clear this is your warning but um there's no such thing douglas wilson actually makes this

00:41:46.740 point as uh as egalitarian sex all sex is patriarchal because there's one party that

00:41:52.360 penetrates plants conquers and a party that receives submits and accepts the individual

00:41:58.500 sex actors there's always a there's a patriarch there's a the man the authority and then submission

00:42:05.240 sometimes obviously when that's turned up there's a man on the receiving end you get the points

00:42:09.540 All sex is patriarchal.

00:42:11.320 So then take it out, but expand it and think, okay, so you have women, and who's coming 1.00

00:42:16.300 in and doing the conquering, the plundering, the ravishing? 1.00

00:42:20.280 Foreigners are coming in and do that. 1.00

00:42:21.780 That is a weapon of psychological demoralization. 0.98

00:42:25.560 The Red Army, the Bolsheviks, towards the end of World War II, they raped two million

00:42:29.800 German women on the Eastern Front as they drove towards Berlin. 0.84

00:42:33.680 It has always been a weapon against a people that you are attempting to conquer to 0.98

00:42:39.320 ravage their wives their children their daughters to to penetrate to conquer to plant to to make 0.92

00:42:47.700 them bear your sons and then parade it in front of you we conquered you we did this but you were 0.70

00:42:55.360 taught like in the public school system just like me like we were taught about the bolsheviks right

00:43:00.140 oh absolutely like i i heard very little about nazis growing up i didn't even really know about

00:43:05.040 the third reich i was never taught about that like hollywood never produces a movie you know

00:43:08.540 about nazis um but but we're thoroughly taught about the bolsheviks right right take care all

00:43:13.620 right michael um this actually it goes back to the 90s but even in the 1970s this was starting

00:43:19.520 to happen um and so there have been there are news stories that go all the way back where

00:43:23.600 vulnerable girls living in shropshire and telford um they were easy prey it's exactly what you say

00:43:29.140 west where they were small christian towns with high trust and so it was in these towns that some

00:43:34.760 of these gangs started to go in and where people weren't necessarily worried about their daughters

00:43:39.020 running down to the park, things like that. So it actually goes back to the 70s. But in the 90s,

00:43:44.480 in the 2000s, it escalated quickly. So in Rotherham, there was an inquiry, which is British

00:43:50.600 for an investigation, where they have found that more than 1,400 victims of grooming and sexual

00:43:57.500 exploitation were taken advantage of between 1997 and 2013. And guys, when we say victimization,

00:44:04.220 I mean, we mean they were trafficked.

00:44:06.040 They were passed around multiple, you know, as bad as you can imagine.

00:44:11.180 Okay, so these are all euphemisms.

00:44:13.140 So 1,400 of them just in Rotherham, just in Rotherham from 1997 to 2013.

00:44:20.000 Which is a town, I want to say, obviously it grew during that time, about 90 to 100,000 people.

00:44:25.360 It's about 200 now.

00:44:26.900 This is not London, this is not Austin, Texas.

00:44:28.620 This is a town smaller than Georgetown. 0.99

00:44:31.240 Again, majority white, majority Christian.

00:44:33.160 and you would have you know i'm not going to parse all out but like that's one in three one

00:44:38.880 in five girls that would have been most certainly targeted attempted yep and many successfully

00:44:45.640 one in three or one in five there's a couple different ways you could parse it out you know

00:44:50.060 like every family if you assume equality equal point part girls and boys the size of the

00:44:54.400 population how many of them were immigrants not but i've heard ranges of one in three would have

00:44:58.760 been attempted to traffic one in five one in ten but it's an insane figure still yeah yeah can you

00:45:04.760 i just can't i can't move past like the civil fathers have a duty to those citizens it's not

00:45:13.340 it's not just some sliver of the population one in three or or the conservative number being one

00:45:19.380 in one in five like the leaders of this town and then at the national level um like to to to not

00:45:27.840 only not address the problem but to actually turn around on the native citizens that you have an

00:45:35.060 obligation to under god and to say that you're the problem by noticing um and that makes you racist

00:45:42.940 um that i mean that's insane well in in oldham there was a 22 2022 report and it found that

00:45:51.080 children in oldham were failed by the agencies that were meant to protect them so for instance

00:45:55.860 there was a 12 year old girl who was raped repeatedly by asian men and went to the police

00:46:02.300 station and to report it and what happened was she the report was taken she was escorted into

00:46:08.780 a back room the people who were running this whole thing were part of the police department 0.92

00:46:12.300 they had their way with her multiple times all night long sent her on her way in the morning 1.00

00:46:17.000 her mom her mom went to a public hearing kind of like a city council hearing and raised holy hell 0.66

00:46:24.380 about this the next week or the next day she was issued what they call in england an asbo which is

00:46:31.640 an anti-social behavior order it's like a restraining order but from your ability to

00:46:37.380 participate in public life in a particular town so the police were in on it she went to the public

00:46:43.280 forum she raised a ruckus and then the social work legal system came in and they filed the asbo 0.98

00:46:49.180 against her. And she was completely silenced from public life in that town. I mean, that's why 0.99

00:46:55.520 it's important to go through some of these details, because it's like, what is going on?

00:47:00.100 Where are the fathers? Where are they? Let me just say for a moment, it's important, I think,

00:47:05.280 for Christians, as we seek to understand this, and especially Americans, if we don't want to

00:47:09.240 see some of these things happen here, which, by the way, if you haven't registered for our

00:47:13.700 conference i strongly encourage you to do so um right response not ministries but in this case

00:47:19.180 right response conference.com right response conference.com um and this is one of the reasons

00:47:25.080 why i invited calvin robinson and you know everybody lost their mind you know all the the

00:47:30.140 usual suspects on the reform side um and i don't understand why i i asked calvin to come to

00:47:36.040 specifically talk of you know to lead an hour-long session on teaching all of us how to pray through

00:47:41.180 the rosary. No, I did not invite him to speak on justification by faith alone. We obviously

00:47:47.680 disagree on that, and the gospel matters, and our disagreements matter. I asked him to come

00:47:52.920 to speak in a political and cultural sense, specifically, on Trash World, as he, as a first

00:48:00.500 eyewitness account, has witnessed this in his native land, England, and now that he's in America,

00:48:07.380 for him to share his observations and takeaways from witnessing firsthand trash world and its

00:48:13.180 total takeover of his native land of England, and to give us whatever insights he might have

00:48:19.680 of how to stop it here in America. That's why I invited Calvin to come, because this episode 0.73

00:48:25.320 is—and I feel like I wanted to bring up the conference because this episode, I think,

00:48:29.680 is the perfect context to explain why we've invited him. And I understand that he—I've seen,

00:48:36.540 and I don't want to get into the weeds with this. I think there's fine people on both sides,

00:48:41.920 as Donald Trump would say, the Donald. Fine people on both sides. But there are other groups,

00:48:48.060 evangelical groups and ministries that have recently disinvited Calvin. And just so that

00:48:56.400 everybody knows, we are not going to be doing that. We are not going to be canceling Calvin.

00:49:00.940 I will say that I was surprised. He's Anglo-Catholic. I thought that the Anglo part was the dog wagging

00:49:11.620 the tail of the Catholic. It turns out that the Catholic side is much more significant than I

00:49:17.920 realized, kind of wagging the Anglo. And at a personal doctrinal level, if we're talking about 0.92

00:49:23.620 justification, these kinds of things, yeah, I have my strong disagreements. Calvin Robinson recently

00:49:29.620 called John Calvin a heretic, his own namesake. Yeah, exactly. Do I like that? No, I think John 0.98

00:49:39.660 Calvin is great. And so obviously I disagree, but that's not why he was invited. And so the

00:49:45.080 invitation stands. And also we're just, our ministry, we're not in the habit of canceling

00:49:49.940 people. We've received an immense amount of pressure. And my response to those who have

00:49:54.420 given us pressure is my typical response which is um respectfully uh pound sand so we were talking

00:50:01.560 about before the show but england is practically the center of christendom in the west they had

00:50:07.300 an empire that spanned the beginning of the 20th century across really the pretty much the known

00:50:11.820 world from india to africa uh our theology the puritans the westminster confession like it all

00:50:17.700 originated from england like that is the core and the heart of european protestant christianity

00:50:24.300 many ways more so than germany more than france more than some of these these other nations and

00:50:28.940 it happened there and they're much farther off much farther gone than we are so what i want to

00:50:34.860 say with this so that's why you know that's why we invited calvin in this episode i think is you know

00:50:38.940 case in point um but but furthermore what i wanted to say for the english people for you know any of

00:50:44.060 our listeners who are native to england um i remember when i was first you know looking into

00:50:49.980 to some of these things, and looking at, as an American, looking at my own country, but then

00:50:54.180 also exploring, you know, Muslim takeover of England and France and other places. In the 0.90

00:50:59.720 European West, I remember my first inclination was, well, this is, this is kind of, like, my

00:51:06.920 position was kind of a, I think a, it lacked, I think, the appropriate degree of sympathy. It was

00:51:15.220 kind of this is what you get uh you turned your back on christ um and that's true like england

00:51:20.680 has it's an apostate uh nation it was a christian nation it's very much an apostasy you can argue

00:51:26.180 the same for america but just even at a greater degree in the case of england and and other

00:51:30.620 european nations as well so that's true but i think it matters um in terms of um recognizing

00:51:37.400 who is chiefly responsible for committing this apostasy even when you look at israel it's not

00:51:44.380 like anybody's off the hook moral agency exists at an individual personal level um everybody when

00:51:50.420 you stand before christ on the final day you can't say you know well my i had a bad you know my dad

00:51:54.960 was an alcoholic or uh i wasn't raised in church or you know my governor you know was uh was a

00:52:00.220 libtard you know or what like no it's it did you were you obedient to the gospel of jesus christ 0.89

00:52:05.680 or not did you have faith in jesus and obedience as an evidence of that faith or not um so that's

00:52:12.480 in terms of salvation, it's very much an individual basis. But when you talk about

00:52:17.540 temporal things at a national level, part of what makes this so tragic, and I think that we need to

00:52:24.300 understand, is, you know, I've heard it said, in this house, we believe in elite theory. And that

00:52:30.620 was one of the major developments, I think, for myself in terms of political philosophy and also

00:52:35.100 how it blends into my theological and doctrinal convictions over the last couple years. That's

00:52:42.140 a more recent develop development for me uh but my point is as it pertains to this issue in england

00:52:47.400 um the english people never voted for this right yeah this is not you know the english citizens

00:52:53.400 that they all got together um with their sacred democracy and said you know what uh we hate

00:52:59.440 christianity we hate christ we hate our heritage we hate our our our native um uh fellow neighbors 0.93

00:53:07.680 and citizens and we want to give our country over to islam and uh and we put it on a ballot 0.97

00:53:14.880 and we uh voted um and and there was a majority vote um for that decision no this is um this is

00:53:22.800 the leaders of england the civil rulers of england against the sentiment and and the the wishes and

00:53:30.420 the will of the people of england saying no we're doing this to you whether you like it or not and

00:53:37.620 And that's been a big change for me.

00:53:39.760 And when I think of America and I think of, like, are there a bunch of Americans who don't 0.90

00:53:43.620 go to church anymore and who live like reprobates and who are degenerate? 0.92

00:53:46.540 Yeah, absolutely.

00:53:47.920 Will they be responsible as it pertains to the salvific, eternal level, as individuals

00:53:53.320 who have to stand before Christ?

00:53:55.080 Yes, absolutely.

00:53:57.080 But when you look at the progression of nations that become Christian or move away from Christianity 0.50

00:54:05.440 and apostatize, you look at Israel. Each and every individual Israelite ultimately is responsible 1.00

00:54:11.420 for their standing before God. But the nation as a whole, the Bible puts the lion's share of the 0.53

00:54:17.820 weight on kings. If there was a bad king in Israel, things were bad. And the people, their hearts

00:54:22.500 would turn from Christ. If there was a good king in Israel, the people would follow suit. So if you

00:54:27.920 got Josiah and he's tearing down all the high places, then the people, it may be by force at

00:54:34.760 first, but the people eventually, the law is a tutor, and it then shapes the hearts of the people,

00:54:41.000 and the law of God, as it's exacted and executed in a public fashion in the legal system of the

00:54:47.600 people, begins to tutor and shape the hearts, and it becomes, the law becomes the more conducive

00:54:52.220 backdrop. The law doesn't save, but it provides the more conducive backdrop for the gospel and

00:54:57.260 understanding the holy God and sinful man and the need for Christ, and more people, it provides a

00:55:03.900 more conducive environment for salvation. And so whether it's Israel with a good king,

00:55:08.100 or whether it's England, or whether it's America, it's not like a bunch of 1950s

00:55:11.740 housewives in America, you know, we're watching their black and white television sets and saying,

00:55:16.720 we love Leave it to Beaver. But what we just, I feel like what the show is missing is just a

00:55:22.260 little bit more butt sex. And if we could get that, and then Hollywood said, well, you know, 0.99

00:55:26.060 we're a Christian outfit here in Hollywood, and we really don't like it, but you know,

00:55:30.820 the bottom line needs to go up, and so I guess, you know, we'll appease our constituents, you know,

00:55:34.720 and for the sake of the market, you know, I guess we'll give the people what they want. No,

00:55:38.320 that's not what happened. In America, yeah, we're filled with a bunch of degenerates, 0.99

00:55:42.400 but it was designed. It was designed by leaders. It was planned. It wasn't just that the population 0.97

00:55:49.660 with our sacred democracy voted for apostasy towards Christ. No, leaders made that decision

00:55:55.240 for their various motives and incentives and reasons,

00:55:58.660 and then they put that on the population.

00:56:01.200 They did it through Hollywood.

00:56:02.220 They did it through media.

00:56:03.120 They did it through medicine.

00:56:04.160 They did it through hip-hop.

00:56:05.640 They did it through all these different things,

00:56:07.100 through all these different systems,

00:56:10.220 through policies and legislation

00:56:11.920 and all these different systems,

00:56:13.460 and little by little, the people followed suit

00:56:16.080 and became degraded.

00:56:17.500 And England, I think, is much the same.

00:56:19.580 My heart, what I'm saying is my heart goes out 1.00

00:56:21.800 to the native citizens, not the leaders,

00:56:24.200 but the citizens of England who never voted for this, never wished this upon themselves,

00:56:29.540 but were actually betrayed by their civil fathers who, under God, had an obligation to their native

00:56:36.540 people. And all in the name, I'm sure there were kickbacks and financial incentives and all these

00:56:44.120 different things for the leaders at the top, but if nothing else, if you think of motives,

00:56:49.040 if nothing else they did it simply to be viewed as politically correct yep they sold out their

00:56:55.900 own native people the the daughters of england were given over to foreigners who worship demonic

00:57:03.320 gods um by an elite class at the top and what did they get um simply uh the privilege of not 0.79

00:57:11.700 being called racist right it's remarkable because even even some of the the biological fathers like

00:57:18.880 who have gotten wind of what's going on

00:57:20.420 and they can't get an audience with the police.

00:57:22.940 They can't get an audience with the civil magistrate.

00:57:25.720 They have, some of them,

00:57:26.800 there are cases in England

00:57:27.900 where some of them have tracked down their daughters

00:57:30.160 and they have, you know,

00:57:31.420 they have gone in and they found them

00:57:33.160 while some of this stuff was going on

00:57:35.280 and they have, you know,

00:57:38.180 tried to rescue their daughters

00:57:39.600 and those men, those fathers have been arrested

00:57:42.440 for being a nuisance to the public decency

00:57:47.360 or things like that

00:57:48.260 and pointing out salacious claims

00:57:51.220 and things that will cast aspersion on minorities

00:57:56.380 and things like that.

00:57:57.280 There was one girl who was a victim of this

00:57:59.420 for years and years and years,

00:58:00.740 and she didn't say anything for a long time.

00:58:03.080 And then finally, when she turned 20,

00:58:04.680 she started coming out and doing appearances

00:58:08.280 on conservative TV or radio shows, podcasts,

00:58:12.140 things like that.

00:58:13.180 And she said that the first time she went on a show

00:58:17.240 and talked about this, she had two policemen come by

00:58:20.480 and she thought, oh, finally, like it worked.

00:58:22.800 I spoke out and now they're investigating it.

00:58:26.200 And they were there to ask her why she had the audacity

00:58:29.060 to be spreading these sorts of messaging

00:58:31.920 about minorities and things like that.

00:58:33.800 She wasn't formally charged with anything,

00:58:35.620 but the investigation was into her,

00:58:37.660 not into the allegations that she was making.

00:58:41.180 So it's utterly stunning.

00:58:43.200 and it beggars the imagination of how it could get this far.

00:58:50.800 So unless you guys have anything else to say,

00:58:52.640 now's a good time to transition into like why.

00:58:55.580 Why is that such, no one can talk about it,

00:58:59.860 no one can mention it, no one can notice,

00:59:01.820 no one can anything.

00:59:03.740 In fact, you have to pretend the opposite.

00:59:06.780 I think there's a couple things to say here.

00:59:08.580 One, and I don't really want this to be the episode.

00:59:10.800 We could do a show on Islam if we wanted, 0.88

00:59:12.880 But there is an argument to be made, and Wes, you made it earlier, that the Muslim religion, in a lot of ways, especially when dealing with quote-unquote conquered nations and sinful, wicked, pagan nations in their mind, the Quran offers a lot of leeway for sexual degeneracy and sexual violence. 0.89

00:59:35.640 I even saw today on Twitter someone who was trying to defend what's going on saying, 0.83

00:59:39.660 well, Muhammad said that the Quran only applies to people in civilized societies.

00:59:46.240 It doesn't apply, we don't have to treat other nations the way we would treat our obedient, godly Muslim societies.

00:59:54.900 And so there is a sense where when you're out among the sinners and the pagans from their perspective,

01:00:01.960 there is a lot of toleration for this sort of violence. 0.97

01:00:04.980 what's that the infidel the infidel yep and the quran even says you know if you're out among the 0.99

01:00:09.840 infidel and a woman doesn't cover herself like all the way to her toes she actually is inviting 0.95

01:00:16.280 sexual aggression towards her um and so i'm you know i'm certainly we could learn some things 0.91

01:00:22.020 about modesty from um from some of the the muslim countries but the point is when when a muslim is 0.85

01:00:28.740 out among the infidel, any sort of not being covered head to toe is an invitation and a 0.99

01:00:35.560 permission to engage in this sort of sexual violence and deviancy. And so there can be a 1.00

01:00:42.860 lot that's said, but I think that at the bottom, we have to understand this is not just people

01:00:49.100 coming into our country who see the same world as us, but they can't just quite get a job. 0.80

01:00:54.000 They couldn't quite connect. And so they're kind of social rejects. And so they're acting out 0.97

01:00:58.240 of some sort of like, oh, I just am not fitting in.

01:01:01.740 Like these are conflicting, clashing,

01:01:04.760 utterly different worldviews that are colliding. 0.97

01:01:07.240 And frankly, the Christian one is the one that's weak. 0.98

01:01:11.660 No, it's the one that's bending over and taking it, right? 1.00

01:01:15.900 But we have to acknowledge

01:01:17.520 that there is a worldview, cultural,

01:01:20.460 even like the country that you're from,

01:01:22.580 the norms and the things that are acceptable and tolerable,

01:01:27.080 they don't just get to you don't just get to put them in the same room together the same country

01:01:31.700 together and expect that there's going to be peace and harmony and that is such a a lie and i don't

01:01:37.280 know why it's taken western society so long to england's not waking up i saw someone one of the

01:01:43.220 very first comments who he said i live in england just today there was a resolution in the parliament

01:01:48.340 it failed there's going to be no public inquiry into the things that are going on with the asian

01:01:53.740 grooming gangs like right i saw another mp she said something to the equivalent of yes there's

01:01:58.980 terrible things going on but we can't begin to say that one group is more likely than the other

01:02:03.900 yes you can ongoing now still to this point all of the data there in front of you

01:02:08.200 one weird trick you just close your eyes and pretend not to say it part of it is it this is

01:02:13.220 how systemic it is in england the police are not allowed to write in reports physical descriptors

01:02:21.760 of assailants and so actually it might be true that when you look at the data you can't make

01:02:29.140 that determination like they're not allowed to say pakistani man i had one one study that i read

01:02:35.880 the guy went through he said it's literally impossible unless you go by the names and you

01:02:40.180 assume that if they have a muslim name that they're muslim or from pakistan or something like

01:02:43.900 that but he said like in in some ways it actually is true that they can't make these determinations

01:02:49.300 because they're not allowed to report on people's ethnicity or race or country of origin or things

01:02:54.440 like that. It cannot be factored in because it's not allowed to be factored in. And the point is

01:02:59.760 that didn't just happen in the last five years. So it wasn't like in 2017, a flurry of bills changed

01:03:04.000 all these reporting standards. And now like for the last five years, we can't do anything. This

01:03:07.880 has been decades and decades and decades. And I think of Reagan here in the seventies, the United

01:03:11.800 States, just on immigration, opening the floodgates, the civil rights act and the heart seller

01:03:17.320 immigration act we're talking decades of this going on and now beginning to realize like oh we

01:03:22.680 let all these people in and this is not working they are not compatible the the assaults the

01:03:28.520 violence all of this they're going through the roof and uh you can have buyer's remorse but uh

01:03:34.200 i'm pretty sure the third world is gonna say no take backs on this one yeah i heard a doctor um

01:03:39.020 a couple weeks ago talking about um neurological diseases alzheimer's parkinson's things like

01:03:44.880 things like that. And he said, the sad thing is by the time that someone starts exhibiting signs

01:03:50.360 or symptoms of Parkinson's or Alzheimer's, that means that 20 years ago, the damage actually

01:03:55.960 started happening, right? It's not like you can just take something now that you're having

01:03:59.920 symptoms and it's going to fix it. That was because 20 years ago, things started to go wrong

01:04:04.900 and your body fought against it for a long time. And now it's finally succumbing. And in some ways,

01:04:09.140 that's exactly what you're saying, Wes, multiculturalism, it started a long time ago.

01:04:13.260 And we're only now starting to see the fruits.

01:04:15.980 There was an insightful quote about multiculturalism.

01:04:19.020 We've talked about this a lot.

01:04:20.060 This won't be new, but he put it in a good way.

01:04:22.760 And he's an English writer.

01:04:25.140 So I thought there's hope some people in England are writing and thinking in this way.

01:04:29.300 So Nate, let's go to the next quote there.

01:04:31.300 This is about multiculturalism.

01:04:34.200 He says, I have recently written in more depth about multiculturalism and how it is based

01:04:38.680 on the idea that all cultures are equal.

01:04:40.380 In the worst examples of the doctrine of multiculturalism being applied, those convicted of serious crimes are excused because of their culture.

01:04:49.860 In one case in 2013, a Muslim man in Nottingham who raped an underage girl was spared a prison term after the judge heard that the man had been taught, 0.97

01:04:58.940 I mentioned this earlier, in an Islamic faith school that women are worthless. 0.99

01:05:03.340 Here, Islamic values are being used by a judge, 1.00

01:05:06.460 an English judge, to no prison sentence, child rape. 0.98

01:05:10.920 This undermines the fundamental principle

01:05:12.760 of one law for all. 0.97

01:05:15.000 And so just the idea that multiculturalism 0.56

01:05:17.420 has been brewing and you reap what you sow.

01:05:20.340 I mean, like we have compassion

01:05:21.620 and we fear for our own nation,

01:05:23.020 but also we just have to be honest,

01:05:24.880 you reap what you sow.

01:05:25.840 And this is not gonna go away overnight in England.

01:05:28.980 But my point with the elite theory is just to say

01:05:30.920 that the English people are reaping

01:05:33.340 not necessarily what they've sown,

01:05:35.940 but what their leaders have sown.

01:05:37.860 Their leaders have sown bad seed

01:05:40.240 and the fruit is, 0.60

01:05:43.580 because it's the same here in America,

01:05:45.560 same conceptually, lower degree, 0.61

01:05:47.580 but Nancy Pelosi will be fine, right? 1.00

01:05:50.920 Like the Bidens will be fine.

01:05:53.280 The people who make these kinds of decisions

01:05:55.760 live in gated communities.

01:05:57.820 They have private security.

01:05:58.980 They're not going to be on the unemployment line.

01:06:03.960 They're not going to be replaced economically with their job.

01:06:08.020 They're not going to be looted or stolen from or accosted.

01:06:12.820 For the most part, they're immune to these things because they live in lives of certain privileges and luxuries.

01:06:21.880 They are selling out their people.

01:06:23.640 They're not selling out themselves. 0.77

01:06:24.900 They're selling out their people.

01:06:26.820 And there's reasons to do it for political correctness, for the fear of man, the praise of man to be viewed as not being racist, to be viewed as virtue signaling.

01:06:37.640 And there's also economic incentives that you can import cheap labor so that, yeah, well, my own citizenry, my own people can't afford a job anymore.

01:06:50.340 but I'm able to lower the bottom line, you know, and increase profit margins because 0.96

01:06:57.080 this person from India will work for, you know, half of the salary that, you know, an American 0.99

01:07:02.140 would expect to work for. And then how do you, how do you get something like that? You know, 0.70

01:07:06.240 how do you push that across the finish line? You know, well, you use language like this,

01:07:10.680 you say, well, the problem is that Americans, you know, they just watch too much TV and they're

01:07:14.400 lazy, right? And, you know, and they, they played, you know, they played too much sports ball,

01:07:19.380 You know, instead of taking violin lessons, you know, and they opted out of trigonometry, you know, and all these things. 0.85

01:07:27.260 And so, you know, it's the American people, they're lazy. 0.65

01:07:29.240 And so, we're not doing this to get cheap labor. 0.97

01:07:31.240 We're not doing this because, you know, somebody from India will work for less money.

01:07:34.480 We're doing it because, you know, the next, you know, Einstein we think is in India, you know, and we just don't have Einstein material here in America. 0.92

01:07:44.760 And so we have to outsource, not for cheap labor, but for excellence, you know, to find

01:07:49.260 our next virtuoso, to find our next savant, to find our next genius.

01:07:54.080 They're going to be somewhere else.

01:07:55.380 And so that's why we're doing it. 1.00

01:07:56.380 We can't get to Mars, you know, unless we have all the Hindus, because if there's anything 1.00

01:08:02.460 that India is known for, it's building rockets, you know, and America, it's not like America's, 1.00

01:08:07.660 you know, one of the only countries that's ever been to the moon.

01:08:09.740 You know, we can't, you know, we can't expect that.

01:08:12.240 So you can't expect American greatness, because Americans are just too lazy when it comes to academics. And so we have to import, you know, people from around the world who have accomplished, you know, very little, but we'll look past that, you know, it's because of some other exterior, you know, explanatory power, you know, but really, they're great, they're hardworking, they have, you know, innovation and all these things.

01:08:36.360 And so, you know, so my point is you can, you can, there's a lot of different narratives. And the reason why I use that example is because, yes, I'm talking about Elon Musk and yes, I'm talking about Vivek. And, and the reason why is because I want to show that even among conservatives, you know, alleged, you know, conservatives, it's, it's still, they still haven't broken out of this mindset of multiculturalism.

01:09:01.400 they still haven't broken out of this idea of GDP must go up, you know, bottom line must go down,

01:09:06.360 even if it means selling out the American people. And even with that, there's, yes,

01:09:10.640 there's a worldview, there's an ideology, religion plays a factor. Elon Musk is not a

01:09:16.020 Christian, Vivek is not a Christian. So there's the religious factor, that's paramount, the 0.98

01:09:20.840 spiritual implications. But there is something to be said for race. Vivek is Indian. And all of a

01:09:30.700 sudden, you know, he's like diehard conservative and runs for president of the United States. And

01:09:35.460 I, we did an episode where I said, he will not have my vote. He won't have my vote for the same

01:09:42.400 reason, well, not exactly the same, but a similar reason for why Kamala won't have it. One, first

01:09:48.200 and foremost, is policy, godless policies that are in direct opposition to the Bible, to the

01:09:54.120 word of God. But secondly, we've never had a woman president. And as far as it depends on me and 0.92

01:10:00.560 whatever little bit of power that I have, by God's grace, we never will, because it's not fitting for 1.00

01:10:06.460 a woman to be president of the United States. Likewise, not exactly the same, but in a similar 1.00

01:10:11.440 conception, we've never had an Indian president. And by God's grace, as far as it depends on me,

01:10:18.780 we never will, because this is not India. This is America. And that doesn't mean that I hate Vivek.

01:10:26.580 i i like vivek and and i hope that he can serve our country well in some capacity um but but at

01:10:33.680 the end of the day uh you you can't people are innately bound they have they have a an innate

01:10:40.900 obligation to their people um uh elon musk same same he's white but he's a foreigner he's a

01:10:49.480 foreigner yeah he's a south african foreigner immigrant um and so it turns out at the end of

01:10:54.880 the day that, you know, Elon Musk, he said several times, like, we need to stop, you know,

01:10:59.040 illegal immigration, but we need even more legal immigration. Elon Musk is fine if America in 50

01:11:07.000 years is no longer heritage America. He's fine if everybody's replaced. As long as he can build

01:11:14.960 his robots, you know, and build his rockets, he doesn't care because America is not actually his

01:11:22.240 team. He uses that analogy of nations as other sports teams, and you can just do trades and

01:11:27.860 transfers all day long. And as long as you win the Super Bowl, then that's America first. America

01:11:32.300 first just means the American sports team wins the championship. Well, one, that's a completely

01:11:37.940 flawed way of thinking. But number two, he doesn't care as long as he wins, as long as America wins

01:11:45.300 according to his definition of winning. He's totally fine if Americans, he's fine if America

01:11:50.960 wins, even if it means Americans lose. And why? Because he's not truly an American. Not in the

01:11:57.900 true sense. In biblical terms, this takes generations. The general equity of the Old

01:12:03.240 Testament, even in Israel, you weren't fully, you didn't have all the rights and privileges,

01:12:07.740 especially as it pertained to worship in the temple and these kinds of things,

01:12:10.860 until the third generation. And for some nations, because of atrocities that that nation had

01:12:16.420 historically committed against the people of Israel and ultimately against their God, Yahweh,

01:12:20.520 there are some nations that would not have full rights and privileges as an israelite citizen

01:12:27.140 until the 10th generation and i believe as a general equity theonomist guy i believe that

01:12:32.400 that's perfectly applicable today to be able to say um uh you you will not be a full citizen you

01:12:38.660 can come here you can work here you can have certain visas and these kinds of and even that

01:12:42.180 has to be drastically mitigated but you can do that but it won't be until the third generation

01:12:46.500 your grandchildren. If you're coming from England, if you're coming from France, if you're coming

01:12:52.260 from Canada, it won't be until the third generation that you'll be full citizens. If you're coming 0.97

01:12:57.840 from Somalia, we're going to take, we will take five, not thousand, not million, five Somalians 1.00

01:13:06.980 in the year of our Lord, 2025. And if you do well in your law-abiding citizens, but not actually 0.95

01:13:15.060 citizens, but residents, then the 10th generation. You're a great, great, great, great, because

01:13:20.640 Somalia is not compatible with America. And over time, generationally, eventually it could be. 1.00

01:13:28.540 Assimilation, I believe, is possible. But it takes time. This idea that people can just touch the

01:13:34.680 magic soil of America and say the magical incantation, you know, and just, you know,

01:13:40.660 have their first slice of apple pie and watch their first sports ball game, you know, the Super

01:13:46.200 Bowl on their big screen TV, you know, in Texas, and all of a sudden they're American. It doesn't 0.54

01:13:52.500 work like that. And here's the funny thing about it. I remember Stephen Wolfe talking about this

01:13:56.660 on a panel that both of us were at on Christian nationalism. But he said, you know, when people

01:14:02.300 were levying the accusations against Wolfe of being racist, one of his defenses is he said,

01:14:07.920 well here's here's the irony i don't believe in the superman um the white superman that um

01:14:15.720 i don't believe that um that the white man can fix all the world's problems um and because i

01:14:22.580 don't believe that i don't believe that all the world needs to come and live among the white man

01:14:27.680 in order you know i don't think that the white man needs to export um and and that every single

01:14:34.100 nation on earth needs to be an American colony or some kind of European colony. And on the flip

01:14:38.720 side, I also don't believe that by importing in all the Haitians and by them being able to rub

01:14:44.620 shoulders with the white man that they'll magically become different people. He says, I reject the

01:14:51.200 Superman mentality as it pertains to your Anglo-Saxon or your WASP or whatever. He said,

01:14:59.500 the conception, Stephen Wolf's conception of Christian nationalism is not that America

01:15:05.360 is a Christian nation and everybody needs to be here, or we need to export America everywhere

01:15:11.620 else. No, the conception of Christian nationalism is diametrically opposed to Christian globalism.

01:15:18.160 It's each individual nation needs to lay hold of Christ by grace through faith in Christ,

01:15:24.080 And then that nation needs to become, on its own terms with its own history, its own heritage,

01:15:29.820 its own customs, its own culture, needs to become Christian. 0.98

01:15:33.000 Now, obviously, a pagan nation is going to have to uproot some of their culture and customs 0.95

01:15:37.580 and these kinds of rituals, but some of it will be uprooted, removed. 0.98

01:15:42.560 Some of it will be redeemed. 0.64

01:15:45.400 That Haiti, Christianized, will look different than America, Christianized. 0.97

01:15:50.060 and both over time, not 15 minutes, but centuries and remaining in their respective parts of the 0.75

01:15:56.120 world that God has assigned them by providence, Acts chapter 17, God set the boundaries of nations

01:16:01.040 and their timelines and these kinds of things, over time, both can be equally Christian. And

01:16:06.320 I believe that both can be relatively equally, over time, prosperous. But when I say over time,

01:16:13.360 I'm not talking about 15 minutes or 15 years or 50 years. I'm talking about centuries. That's the

01:16:19.680 conception of Christian nationalism. That's what we're advocating for. That's the way God made the

01:16:24.340 world. And one of the things that I've learned in life is it's not beneficial to go against the

01:16:31.040 grain if the grain, in this case, that you're talking about is the sovereign providential plan

01:16:35.880 of God. God made the world. It's his world. We function inside of it according to his rules.

01:16:41.640 And globalism goes against the rules. It goes against God's rules for the world that he's made.

01:16:47.860 multiculturalism, I believe, goes against the rules. Yes, multicultural, if you're looking at

01:16:54.260 different cultures in different nations spread across the world, but multiculturalism in each

01:16:59.720 nation is actually, here's the irony, it literally eradicates the revelation possibility of every

01:17:06.400 tribe, tongue, and nation. Every nation, at that point, becomes steamrolled into a one-size-fits-all,

01:17:13.020 this factory setting where Japan and America and Somalia and Canada and everywhere else,

01:17:21.780 the Sudan, they all actually end up being this equal egalitarian blend of every nationality

01:17:30.300 that intermarries, and over the course of centuries, every nation is the same. They're

01:17:34.520 all Christian, great, we like that, but they're also, it's not Christian America and Christian 0.95

01:17:39.340 Somalia. It's just Christian globalism everywhere. And if you do that, it doesn't even make sense of

01:17:45.660 Scripture. The idea of on that final day in eternity that we would be worshiping before

01:17:51.500 the throne of God, not with any animus, and we shouldn't have animus now, but not any sinful

01:17:57.340 animus, unjustifiable animus, but on that final day that we'd be worshiping before the Lamb,

01:18:03.460 and that that sea of saints would be comprised of every tribe, tongue, and nation, what that

01:18:10.140 implies, what it asserts, is that God, in his providence and sovereignty, is going to maintain

01:18:17.540 some distinction between the nations from now until the final return of Christ. And for us to

01:18:25.140 work against that is actually to work against the ultimate eschatological plan of God, in a sense. 0.94

01:18:32.480 And that's silly.

01:18:34.520 You know who red-pilled me on that years ago? 0.67

01:18:36.700 Far-right extremist John Piper on multiculturalism.

01:18:39.560 He said, look, this actually means that there are distinct peoples, nations, tribes, and tongues.

01:18:44.220 So they can't all just be thrown in the blender and mixed together.

01:18:47.040 That was, I think, 10 years ago I read that and I was like, oh yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

01:18:50.340 Makes a lot of sense.

01:18:51.780 Let's go to our last commercial break.

01:18:53.320 And then real quick before we do, though, Michael, set out the path for us for this final.

01:18:58.660 What are the big things you want to get to?

01:19:00.160 What we're going to do is I'm going to read just kind of a smattering of quotes that illustrate how scared people in England are of being called racist.

01:19:09.600 And then I want us to just maybe talk briefly about why or just drive the point home.

01:19:14.480 This is why we make such a big deal about some of these things here, because we are a couple steps behind them.

01:19:20.520 But still, that has been the cudgel that has been used to subdue the nation of England.

01:19:26.640 You speak out about this, and you will be called racist.

01:19:30.160 And then, I don't know, we can choose whether we kind of wrap things up or depending on how comments are or any other points you guys wanted to make just to apply this generally to Christian, Christian thought, the U.S., things like that.

01:19:42.800 Great. Just one more plug, because on Friday, two days from now, 48 hours, give or take,

01:19:49.420 give in this case, but 8 p.m. Central Time on Friday, we are launching part one of a nine-part

01:19:56.720 series on all things related to Judaism and Israel. And that's with me and Pastor Andrew

01:20:02.860 Isker, nine-part series. And you can watch it drip out to the public, one episode on Fridays

01:20:07.680 at 8 p.m., you know, one per week over the course of whatever that is, two and a half months,

01:20:12.040 nine weeks. But all that is available right now. If you want to join us as a member on Patreon,

01:20:18.800 you go to patreon.com forward slash right response ministries, patreon.com forward slash

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01:20:29.720 But on Friday, you'll also, and this will not be dripping out to the public for

01:20:33.460 multiple months. So you would have to wait months if you're just going to follow on YouTube and

01:20:38.140 X and whatever. But on Friday, right now you can get all nine parts on the series on Israel with

01:20:44.800 me and Isker. But on Friday, just 48 hours from now, you'll also be able to get all 10 parts of

01:20:51.420 a series addressing these kinds of things, like multiculturalism, like racism and what that

01:20:59.320 actually means and where that word was coined and these kinds of things. And more importantly,

01:21:04.780 the macro picture of Christian nationalism, the full 10-part series with myself and Dr. Stephen

01:21:11.240 Wolfe will also be available on Friday, this Friday, exclusively for our Patreon members. So

01:21:19.020 go to, again, patreon.com forward slash Right Response Ministries, and you can get a nine-part

01:21:24.300 series with Isker ad-free, and two days from now, a 10-part series with myself and Dr. Stephen Wolfe

01:21:31.140 on Christian nationalism. So nine parts on Israel, 10 parts on Christian nationalism,

01:21:35.360 a fantastic deal. Also, I want to start building up towards this because it's happening in April,

01:21:40.680 so we only have three months. But also for those of you who are, you know, you live abroad,

01:21:45.540 you're somewhere else, but who want to be able to participate and get the content for our

01:21:51.120 conference, if you join as one of our gold members on Patreon, you will be able to live stream as

01:21:58.640 it's actually happening in real time. Livestream every single session and every panel from our

01:22:04.460 conference. The conference is titled Christ is King. Subtitle is how to defeat trash world. It's

01:22:10.160 happening April 3rd, 4th, and 5th. That's a Thursday through a Saturday. We're just three

01:22:14.960 months away. And so I already want to start plugging that. Not only will you get the Israel

01:22:19.940 series with Isker, the Christian nationalism series with Wolf, but you also get the ability

01:22:25.500 to live stream our conference, April 3rd, 4th, and 5th, again, by simply becoming a Patreon member.

01:22:31.460 And then for those of you who actually can't attend in person, these are the kinds of things

01:22:35.120 that we're going to be addressing at this conference. When we talk about defeating

01:22:38.020 Trash World, there will be sessions that address the absolute vital need, the irreplaceable need

01:22:47.220 of preaching the gospel. Yeah, you're not going to defeat Trash World without the gospel.

01:22:54.060 yes and amen um but you're also not going to defeat trash world um by doing a jesus juke

01:23:00.540 and only preaching the gospel if an intruder shows up at my house i don't preach the gospel 0.98

01:23:06.640 to him i grab a gun and i shoot him in the chest lord willing twice um just to make sure um the 0.94

01:23:16.340 gospel uh when my car breaks down i don't go in the garage and preach the gospel to my car 0.98

01:23:21.980 And so, yeah, we are going to—and I know that's foreign.

01:23:25.540 Some of you guys are having a really hard time with this, because you're a part of the Reformed tribe, which we are as well.

01:23:30.720 We love the heritage of the Reformed faith.

01:23:34.200 That is our heritage, and that is our doctrinal allegiance, is the Reformed Christian faith. 1.00

01:23:41.260 But I will admit that one of the weaknesses of our tribe is pietism. 0.98

01:23:45.740 and unstoppable, incessant Jesus-juking. 0.99

01:23:52.900 And so the idea that we're having a conference

01:23:54.680 that we'll talk about the gospel,

01:23:57.220 that we'll preach the gospel,

01:23:58.700 but we'll also do some other things.

01:24:01.300 We'll probably talk about Israel.

01:24:03.780 We may do a whole panel on it.

01:24:05.620 We're going to do a whole debate on natural law

01:24:07.700 and theonomy with Reese and Wolfe.

01:24:10.300 We're going to talk about multiculturalism.

01:24:13.840 We're going to talk about immigration.

01:24:15.740 We're going to talk about political philosophy.

01:24:19.020 We're going to talk about a lot of things at this conference.

01:24:23.220 And that's really, really hard for Reformed folks to grapple with.

01:24:29.400 Because they're like, you're holding a conference and it's not on the five solas? 0.90

01:24:34.980 You're telling me you're doing a conference and it's not on the sovereignty of God?

01:24:38.640 Wait, you're holding a conference and it's not the cessationism conference for the 15th time?

01:24:43.800 does not compute, we don't understand. And I get it. I get it. Because for modern Reformed folks,

01:24:53.560 talking about something other than the five solas, or the tulip, or cessationism, seems foreign.

01:25:02.060 But our Reformed tradition, right? Modern Reformed guys, we adopted the soteriology of John Calvin.

01:25:09.300 Some of the Reformed guys were real bold and even adopted some of the covenant theology

01:25:15.660 and the ecclesiology of the Reformers, right?

01:25:18.780 That's real bold.

01:25:20.300 A little bit too bold for my taste as a Reformed Baptist, but they did. 0.95

01:25:25.960 But what we want to do is we actually, we're not graduating from the Reformed tradition. 0.94

01:25:31.380 We just want to embrace the whole Reformed tradition.

01:25:35.120 Calvin talked about politics.

01:25:37.580 taffman was a political figurehead in geneva this is another part of the reformed tradition

01:25:42.920 and we want to talk about those things as well and the reformers guess what i know this one's

01:25:48.640 real crazy but um they quoted aristotle a lot oh calm down joel and and even they even quoted that

01:25:57.580 that notorious catholic aquinas right that's even worse than aristotle that's pagan plus catholic

01:26:03.220 you know um they didn't quote him on on justification but they did quote him on some

01:26:10.380 political philosophy on um some epistemology on um different things like that and so this is going

01:26:16.720 to be a full orbed um how do you how do you defeat trash world well here's this the short answer

01:26:22.480 um not easily that's how that's true not easily not a one-size-fits-all um it's it's uh not with

01:26:30.720 ideology, not with oversimplifications. How do you defeat trash world? Well, you have to start

01:26:38.740 thinking in multiple categories. You have to apply the Bible to every single realm of life.

01:26:45.540 You have to embrace the great Western tradition. It's a tall order, in other words. And that's why

01:26:53.740 I've invited guys above my pay grade who have expertise in areas beyond my expertise to speak

01:27:02.400 about things. Because if it's just on the gospel, then you know what? We'll have eight sessions and

01:27:07.540 I'll do all of them. I know how to preach the gospel, but it's not just going to be the gospel.

01:27:14.140 Nothing less than the gospel, but it will be more than the gospel. And this is the kind of

01:27:19.920 conference, I think, has been missing for 50 years in reform circles. And so, yeah, I'm a little bit

01:27:26.700 biased because I'm hosting the conference, but I also think that, you know, we're doing it for a

01:27:30.900 reason. We think it's needed. And so, yes, I am biased, but I think you should go right now and

01:27:37.140 stop waiting, but go to rightresponseconference.com and register. Go to rightresponseconference.com

01:27:43.660 and register. And if you can't afford it, email me at joel at rightresponseministries.com,

01:27:49.920 joel at rightresponseministries.com. We will find a way to help you get there. I'm talking,

01:27:56.600 like, I'll just tell you, frankly, to the public right now, we'll cut half of the price off.

01:28:02.740 I'll cut more than half of the price off if it's a good cause and you can't afford it.

01:28:07.380 We want it to be full, right? We went, right? We sent out the messengers.

01:28:13.660 The king has sent out the messengers to the well-to-do and the pristine among the reformed tribes, and they rejected us.

01:28:23.140 And so now I will go to the highways and the byways so that the banquet will be full.

01:28:27.980 The banquet will be full, and if that means that I'm giving 75% off discounts to people who actually care and want to be there 1.00

01:28:34.940 and don't want to see our country overwhelmed by Muslims, 0.99

01:28:38.280 that actually want to see a Christian heritage maintained and preserved throughout the ages for

01:28:43.940 our children's children, then yeah, we will find a way to help you get there. So go to

01:28:49.860 rightresponseconference.com, register for this conference, Christ is King, and also go to

01:28:56.040 patreon.com forward slash rightresponseministries so that you can get not only live streaming the

01:29:00.740 conference, if you live in Australia or New Zealand or England, God bless you if you live

01:29:05.720 in England. God bless. Also, if you live in England, feel free to go to Amazon and get this

01:29:10.640 little ditty, Fight by Flight. You might want to practice some of that and get out of there.

01:29:15.600 But yeah, sign up for Patreon, patreon.com forward slash Right Response Ministries. If you live in 0.94

01:29:21.740 another country, you're not physically able to attend, but you want to be able to live stream

01:29:25.900 all the sessions for the conference because it's coming quick. Blink of an eye, and we'll be there

01:29:30.220 April 3rd, 4th, and 5th. All right, this is our last commercial break, and then Michael is going

01:29:35.140 line us out with some really important things that we haven't gotten to yet for this episode

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01:31:12.900 real quick before i turn to michael i want to address this comment in the chat um because

01:31:29.420 my heart goes out to you and there are many people in the same similar situation as you

01:31:35.140 i have people in our church that fit this description and um and i want you to know that

01:31:40.860 I love you. I am glad you're here. And I want to deal with our listeners, our followers,

01:31:47.880 with honesty and integrity. I feel like a lot of pastors will just gloss over things.

01:31:55.780 And so I want to deal with this honestly. So Ninja5150 says this,

01:32:01.520 Joel, I know I'm probably the exception, but I'm a first-generation immigrant from Mexico,

01:32:06.780 and I am as patriotic as they come. My two sons born in the USA served our country honorably

01:32:14.460 and we love the USA. So Ninja5150, first, I'm assuming you're listening to this because you're

01:32:21.440 a Christian. So first, you're my brother in Christ. I love you immensely. Number two,

01:32:26.880 from the little bit that I can tell from this comment, you're the type of person

01:32:29.360 that I can genuinely say from the bottom of my heart, I'm glad you're here. I'm grateful for

01:32:34.320 your sons and their service. And so here's my position. If I had my way, you would be here,

01:32:42.360 but you would not be a citizen. Your sons would not be citizens. Your grandchildren would.

01:32:49.060 And you would be treated fairly as, just like the general equity, the application of the civil codes

01:32:55.700 to Israel, the sojourner should not be oppressed or extorted or taken advantage of. You'd be

01:33:01.940 treated fairly. You would be able to have fair wages. There would be less people that are able

01:33:09.040 to fit into this category, less legal immigration on the whole, year by year, substantially less.

01:33:16.500 But people like you, Ninja5150, there would be cases exactly like you, and you would always be

01:33:24.780 my brother in Christ, whether you immigrated here or not, simply by our union with Christ,

01:33:29.320 by the Spirit and through faith. You furthermore would be not my fellow citizen, but in a looser 0.66

01:33:36.360 sense, a fellow countryman who lives here. You would be my neighbor and my particular neighbor

01:33:43.920 in a geographic, literal sense, living in my country. I would care for you, your wife, your

01:33:49.160 children, your grandchildren, and want to see your best. And yet there would still be multiple

01:33:55.100 categories and not just a one-size-fits-all, you would be a part of our country, but you would be

01:34:01.600 a sojourner, but a sojourner who, like Ruth, wants to bind herself to Israel. Your God will be my God,

01:34:08.540 your people will be my people, and your grandchildren would eventually be citizens and

01:34:14.160 voting in our national elections and all these kinds of things. You yourself would not be able

01:34:19.300 to achieve in your lifetime, for yourself personally, that level of assimilation, but you

01:34:24.820 would be loved. You would be appreciated. There would be no animosity towards you. You would be

01:34:29.780 treated with fairness. And you and other Christians like you who immigrated, it would be less amount 1.00

01:34:35.720 for sure. For sure. Millions have to go back. They have to go back. But some would be permitted to 1.00

01:34:42.880 come, and we would be grateful that you were here, and you would be loved. That's my position.

01:34:48.900 I currently pastor a church where we have two families that are from Canada. The same would

01:34:53.840 apply for them. And they know this, and they've heard my preaching as it's come up in sermons,

01:35:00.320 because we preach all the way through the book of Ezra and the book of Joshua, and these kinds

01:35:03.660 of topics come up. And they know my position. They listen to the podcast. They know that they

01:35:07.660 are, first and foremost, my brothers and sisters in Christ and deeply loved. Secondly, they're also

01:35:13.620 my neighbors at a national level, my national neighbors, because they live here. They are

01:35:18.380 residents of these United States of America. I care for their well-being. I care for their

01:35:24.060 marriage, their children, all these things at a pastoral level first, spiritually, but then at a

01:35:28.260 national level because they are fellow residents. But they know my position, and they agree with it.

01:35:33.900 That's the thing. They agree with it. They get it. They get that nations matter. My position is that

01:35:39.040 they would not be able to be full citizens and would not be able to vote in our elections,

01:35:44.140 but that their grandchildren would, and that it would take time to fully assimilate. In the

01:35:50.060 meantime, though, they would be loved, they would be cherished, they are loved, they are cherished

01:35:54.600 first at a spiritual level as brothers and sisters in Christ, secondly at a national level as

01:35:59.760 residents, fellow residents, but not yet citizens. Now, I'm not king of America in God's providence

01:36:06.400 in his infinite wisdom. He's seen that that not be the case. I'm sure he made the right call,

01:36:10.600 and so i don't make the rules so um because that's not currently the law in america i advocate that

01:36:16.720 they pursue citizenship right they that they actually do attain citizenship because that's

01:36:20.760 the law of the land and i'd much rather them be citizens than a bunch of other people who don't

01:36:25.480 love jesus don't love america you know and are just trying to exploit it for um the you know as

01:36:30.600 an economic zone um and so uh so to those families in our church um uh this this general equity of

01:36:37.660 the old testament and the third generation that's not the law of the land so pursue citizenship

01:36:41.420 and um and i am praying that you get it i'm praying that you get it and for ninja 5150

01:36:46.860 um i assume that you're probably a citizen by this point um praise god uh but in terms of moving

01:36:53.540 forward there's always going to be a million exceptions and that's part of the problem with

01:37:00.400 with western civilization is every time we talk about a law we talk about a principle

01:37:09.240 immediately what's talked about what gets the spotlight in that conversation and ultimately

01:37:15.940 becomes the case study that sets the law and the procedures is always the exception that the

01:37:22.140 footnote always is elevated to the headline and then the headline is relegated to the footnote

01:37:27.380 with with every single law we immediately you know if if you're talking about uh sodomy laws

01:37:32.880 immediately it's like yeah but what about um the friendly gay couple that you know that does this

01:37:37.780 and does that you know or if you're talking about blasphemy laws you know blue or blue laws

01:37:42.220 sabbatarian laws it's like yeah but what about you know this obscure example of so-and-so you know

01:37:47.660 who uh for whatever reason you know the only way that he can make a living is if he works seven

01:37:52.060 days. Look, we've done that. We've done that for 80 years. For 80 years, we have conceptualized

01:38:00.420 and hypothesized the exception. And by doing so, what we have done is No Child Left Behind, 0.76

01:38:07.160 you know, we've done it in our education system, in our schools, in our laws, in our economy,

01:38:11.680 at every single level. We have elevated the exception at the expense of the norm. And the

01:38:18.600 cost of that is that the american people as a whole has suffered that's what we've done and

01:38:25.440 we've traded in american excellence um in order to uh bring ourselves down lower ourselves to the

01:38:35.000 lowest common denominator the entire west has done that every european nation america canada

01:38:41.640 we've all done that and we've done it for just about a century now at least 50 years arguably

01:38:46.980 80, arguably longer. We have to stop doing that. So I love you, brother in Christ. Personally,

01:38:53.400 I'm glad you're here. If you lived here, I would want you to come be a member in our church.

01:38:58.620 We would treat you with fairness and love, just like we do all of the members of our church.

01:39:03.600 But if I was in charge, and as I use my platform to try to influence policy and culture and politics

01:39:10.720 outside of myself and with our nation as a whole, I am going to advocate 0.52

01:39:15.380 that immigration, illegal immigration is immediately stopped. Legal immigration 0.91

01:39:23.700 is drastically mitigated. And then for those who are able to legally immigrate,

01:39:28.280 I want them to be Christian. I want them to love America and love our heritage. I want them to

01:39:34.760 fully assimilate, I would like to see people stop speaking Spanish and that nothing is written 1.00

01:39:42.840 in any public square, in any public setting. Nothing is written in Spanish. 1.00

01:39:47.580 What about the signs of H-E-B that say food stamps accepted here?

01:39:50.700 Yeah.

01:39:50.820 I saw that yesterday.

01:39:51.560 Yeah.

01:39:51.840 Don't love it. 1.00

01:39:52.900 Number one, get rid of welfare. So no food stamps. Number two, if you got to have food stamps for 0.97

01:39:57.680 a while and you're weaning the nation off of welfare as you're changing policies, yeah,

01:40:01.080 it's written in English. And if you can't read English, go back.

01:40:04.760 go back um this is a country that speaks your language that's awesome for you this is america

01:40:11.800 we are a christian nation and we are an english nation and people can come but they must come

01:40:19.200 and be christian they must be uh want to be eventually american or at least their children's

01:40:25.220 children that their family um their posterity would become american so they love the lord

01:40:29.800 Jesus Christ. They also love American heritage and want to be grafted into it. And part of that is

01:40:35.280 a willingness and eagerness to fully assimilate. Ruth does not track in on the Israelite carpet 0.90

01:40:44.220 her Moabite mud. No, she literally forsakes her people, not just her gods. It's not just the 0.94

01:40:51.780 religion. It's also the culture, the people, the everything. She says, not just your God will be

01:40:57.500 my God, as she's talking to Naomi. She says, your people will be my people. And it's not saying your

01:41:04.240 people will be my people along with my other people. In addition to, no, it's a switch. It's

01:41:11.960 a trade. It's a replacing. She's saying, I am abandoning the false pagan Moabite gods. I'm also 0.56

01:41:19.460 abandoning the Moabite people. A hyphenated Israelite. Yep. I am not a Moab hyphenate Israelite. 1.00

01:41:27.120 no there's no hyphen i am going to be an israelite and out of that heart and that mindset

01:41:33.980 you have a messianic line that eventually produces the christ you do not get that out of out of um

01:41:41.180 mexican american or whatever that story is very interesting because naomi had two sons who died

01:41:47.480 and she told both of the wives ruth one and orpah i think the second one and she laid it out she

01:41:54.580 said look this is what it means and it's not that orpah um was saved or not but it was in that moment

01:42:02.560 it was a perfectly acceptable decision for orpah to say you know what i'm going back to my people

01:42:07.360 i'm going to my i can't like i am a moabitess right i'm gonna go with them in fact it was

01:42:12.320 unusual for all we know she could have gone back to her people without going back to her gods 0.55

01:42:16.100 and said right she could have been regenerate she could have um um actually adopted yahweh as 0.99

01:42:22.400 her god because by virtue of her marriage and that influence all that kind of stuff converted 0.98

01:42:26.380 and then said i'm going back to my people without going back to my gods as a worshiper of yahweh

01:42:31.920 and i'm going to work with my people so that my people might worship the true god and that's a

01:42:36.100 perfectly legitimate and even praiseworthy decision right okay so how did the the west

01:42:43.100 get to this point well we've mentioned it many times i'm going to read a couple quotes these

01:42:46.580 are from newspapers in england as some of these investigations have come to light over the years

01:42:52.000 So here's the next slide, Nate.

01:42:53.900 I think it's quote number three.

01:42:56.520 So this was a report that came out after the Telford, a rash of grooming gangs in Telford, a town in England.

01:43:02.540 It says, the report said that the majority of known perpetrators were of Pakistani heritage and that in some cases, get this, local officials and other agencies had been wary of identifying ethnic origins.

01:43:15.180 Why?

01:43:16.180 For fear of upsetting community cohesion or being seen as racist. 0.98

01:43:21.380 Now, I don't know about you, but I'm not sure that there's anything that would upset community cohesion more than perpetually, methodically raping the daughters of the town. 0.81

01:43:34.420 But no, let's not label the perpetrators as Pakistanis for fear of upsetting cultural or community cohesion or us being labeled racist, right? 0.55

01:43:44.740 It has to be said almost every time you bring that word up.

01:43:47.040 Racist as a word did not exist 100 years ago.

01:43:49.340 It was a German-Jewish man named Magnus Hirschfeld, wrote a book called Racism, 1938.

01:43:55.100 That's the first English usage you have in it.

01:43:57.380 This is not a historical term.

01:43:58.740 This is not a long-standing term.

01:44:00.400 It's a made-up term by subversive people to be weaponized against people who love their own.

01:44:06.400 Right.

01:44:07.280 All right, next slide, Nate.

01:44:09.100 You have to reject the whole leftist framework.

01:44:13.220 Yep.

01:44:13.940 Go ahead.

01:44:14.540 England is no longer a majority Christian nation.

01:44:17.020 Only 46% of England is now Christian, and I realize for some of our English brothers

01:44:22.240 there, they're going to say, like, it's much lower than that. 0.89

01:44:24.140 We get it. 0.99

01:44:24.760 The Anglican church is a disaster. 0.83

01:44:26.700 But there's a political incentive now. 1.00

01:44:28.760 The minority population is so large in England that there's a political incentive for leaders 0.99

01:44:32.980 not to wade into this. 1.00

01:44:34.320 So this was another report.

01:44:36.040 It says, when the grooming scandal hit the town, Jim Dobbin, MP, also told me not to

01:44:40.920 link the issue to Asian Muslim community because it would have an adverse electoral impact. 0.95

01:44:45.940 Here is more influence of Islam, influence our politics, and what MPs are prepared to say in public. 0.97

01:44:52.240 Many politicians have prioritized vote winning over speaking truthfully about these grooming gangs. 0.97

01:44:57.200 They have sacrificed young girls for their personal political ambitions.

01:45:01.200 Wow.

01:45:01.820 Then I have one more related to this whole fear of being called racist thing.

01:45:06.820 So number five.

01:45:08.060 In the 2000s, an Asian grooming gang was free to roam the streets and abuse young girls because police officers were told, get this. 0.54

01:45:14.980 this is what they were told on record to find other ethnicities to investigate and a detective

01:45:22.640 has claimed it quotes him as saying we had a massive input um we had a massive input was the

01:45:28.120 offending target group were predominantly predominantly asian males and we were told

01:45:32.820 to try to get other ethnicities i mean so when when the police are being told you cannot go after

01:45:40.900 someone of x ethnicity because it will look bad will get called racist and will lose political

01:45:47.300 campaigns this is what you this is what you end up with that's insane i want to cap it all off

01:45:53.200 with a quote um about multiculturalism um from tim deep he's the same guy that i quoted earlier

01:45:59.380 so this is number six nate and this is just what we have to be upfront about as christians

01:46:05.340 Multiculturalism, he says, is an ideology that is fundamentally opposed to Christianity.

01:46:10.780 It cannot accept a transcendental source of morality and therefore resists accepting the 0.61

01:46:15.380 reality of a creator God.

01:46:17.060 It considers missionary activity and attempts to morally reform cultures as immoral.

01:46:22.660 What we're really up against is an anti-Christian, not just competing vision of the world.

01:46:29.240 Multiculturalism and the idea that all nations are the same, which we've hit on over and

01:46:34.040 over and over again multiculturalism is a non-christian antithetical worldview to the

01:46:40.240 christian worldview because his point is you can't you agree if if all cultures are equal

01:46:49.200 then the gospel actually has no business transforming a culture right if england or

01:46:55.380 if the u.s has been influenced by christianity for decades and centuries and millennia and that's not

01:47:01.180 better then what point is the gospel right what like like what's the point of having the gospel

01:47:07.340 infiltrate and percolate through and transform utterly transform our society if nothing is

01:47:12.360 better and nothing is worse then there's no reason to to to call people to a higher way of life that 0.96

01:47:18.780 isn't aligned with god's law and christ's grace and all of the rest like even the whole missionary

01:47:22.600 project that that we love is a product somewhat of the globalism but even that whole under 0.72

01:47:30.080 missionary project gets undermined if multiculturalism wins the day right that was

01:47:34.780 multicultural lots of different peoples all gathered together mixed in and then god said

01:47:40.480 separate yeah establish your places and and this yeah and this principle even applies not just to

01:47:47.340 nations and culture but individuals like i remember you know a few years back preaching a sermon and

01:47:53.280 and i could tell that the congregation was struggling with it but i knew that it needed

01:47:57.460 to be said because i felt like the neo-calvinists isn't true to the the actual reformed you know

01:48:03.180 tradition but the the neo-calvinists you know they had taken like calvin soteriology and then

01:48:08.520 you know kind of you know warped it through like kind of you know made it modern and you know like

01:48:14.340 like calvin plus classical liberalism plus you know whatever a splash of political correctness

01:48:19.860 and this that and the other um a lot of those guys which would be the majority of calvinists today

01:48:25.220 um and in in over in a sense of overcompensating um and and over attempt to um to to somehow you

01:48:36.780 know hedge against the accusation that calvinists are arrogant or prideful which there's plenty of

01:48:42.840 times that that's true um but in order to do that you know it became all the rage for a few decades

01:48:48.900 you know with the young reformed restless movement and kind of the resurgence of calvinism

01:48:52.860 uh for at least 20 years you know every sermon was kind of like well and one of the the chief

01:48:57.640 beauties you know it's almost as though like um um the the most brilliant facet of the diamond

01:49:04.200 of that is reform theology is is this um that uh that according to reform soteriology the

01:49:13.740 christian is no better than any anyone else you know like um you didn't not only did you not earn

01:49:19.540 in terms of your decisions, your choices, your actions.

01:49:22.660 Not only did you not earn salvation,

01:49:24.880 but you didn't even make a better choice 0.99

01:49:26.540 than the unbeliever to your left and to your right. 0.60

01:49:31.000 You didn't even make a superior choice, 0.97

01:49:33.180 so you don't even have superior decision-making faculty.

01:49:36.820 It's simply the sovereign grace of God.

01:49:38.680 And I understand what's being said there,

01:49:40.660 and certainly there's a sense in which that is true. 0.99

01:49:43.040 Paul said, I'm the most wretched of all men.

01:49:44.860 That's right.

01:49:45.440 It's God's sovereign election.

01:49:47.020 That's the doctrine of unconditional election.

01:49:48.840 But here was my point when I preached this sermon that people wrestled with because it felt foreign to them on that backdrop of, you know, Calvinist trying to prove that they're not prideful and arrogant, you know, and overcompensating.

01:50:00.740 The reason why that felt so foreign to them is the argument that I was making was I was saying, yeah, it's true that when you become a Christian in conversion, God is not choosing, you know, he chooses the fools to despise the wise,

01:50:17.300 the poor, to despise the rich. God is not looking at the mass of humanity and picking

01:50:22.360 the superior portions of humanity in order to inherit salvation. But upon inheriting salvation,

01:50:29.340 so not in terms of God's election, his choice, while we are yet enemies of God, but upon no

01:50:35.820 longer being enemies of God, once that heart of stone has been removed and replaced with the heart

01:50:39.580 of flesh, once you're no longer an enemy of God and a child of his wrath, but rather an adopted

01:50:45.940 Son of the living God, then it's not just that the penalty of sin has now been paid,

01:50:53.320 but the power of sin has in fact been broken.

01:50:56.440 It's not just justification, but sanctification as a fruit and an evidence of justification

01:51:01.380 begins to do its work. 0.94

01:51:03.840 And the end result is, and this is crazy, I know, but the end result is that Christians 0.99

01:51:10.360 are better than non-Christians. 0.99

01:51:15.940 and we have to be able to say that. That must be true. Of course that's true. Because to say 1.00

01:51:23.360 anything otherwise is ultimately to say that the gospel is nothing more than fire insurance.

01:51:28.740 It only affects the life to come, has zero effect on this life here and now. It's to render the

01:51:35.800 gospel impotent. It's to say that the gospel covers the penalty for sin, but it doesn't actually have

01:51:41.460 any power to break the power of sin. It is true that the Christian still will wrestle with the 0.97

01:51:47.580 remaining presence of sin, but both the penalty is paid and the power is broken so that the Christian

01:51:53.920 can get better. Even when I do, you know, we do this every single day in our catechism with our

01:51:59.760 children, with family worship. If you want to know some of the less political and cultural,

01:52:04.220 bit more of the—and not even pastoral, but, you know, Joel as husband and father in my private

01:52:11.180 home—some of the questions that we do in our catechisms, we say—so, you know, we get to a

01:52:19.320 point where we say, will God ever die? No, God lives forever. And then the next question that

01:52:25.020 we do is, will you die? And the answer is, yes, it is appointed to man that he should die once, 0.98

01:52:30.780 and then comes the judgment. Then the next question is, will you be destroyed in the judgment

01:52:36.840 or will you pass through the judgment? And the answer is, I'll pass through the judgment. And

01:52:42.420 I do this with my two-year-old. My two-year-old says, I'll pass through the judgment. Do I know

01:52:47.780 whether or not my two-year-old is regenerate? No. But I teach my two-year-old to say, yeah,

01:52:52.860 you're darn right. I'll pass through the judgment because I believe it's a matter of when and not

01:53:00.160 if this two-year-old was given to me. He's not just any two-year-old. He's my two-year-old.

01:53:05.940 The Lord gave him to me, and I believe the means of grace are not severed from the ends of grace,

01:53:10.460 and that one of the chief means of grace where God saves his elect is actually parenting,

01:53:16.260 that God gives. I mean, just look at the statistics. If you're born in a Muslim home,

01:53:20.580 God saves, but a lot of times he doesn't. You're statistically far more likely to grow up and be a 1.00

01:53:28.000 Muslim. Shocker. You're born in a Christian home, and you have a far higher likelihood of growing up 1.00

01:53:33.900 and being a Christian. So that's the next question is, will you pass through? Will you be destroyed

01:53:37.320 or pass through the judgment? I'll pass through the judgment. Then it's, why will you pass through

01:53:40.900 the judgment? Because I trust in Jesus. And then we start getting into the commandments of God and

01:53:47.980 obedience. And one of the questions there that's very integral is we say, what is it?

01:53:57.340 I had, I, the reason I started so far back is because it's a sequence and I remember it better

01:54:02.120 if I start from the beginning. Um, but we, we go to the commandments. Um, what is it? Um,

01:54:09.860 oh, how do we, you know, how do we glorify God, uh, love him and obey him? Um, and then,

01:54:15.440 and then it gets to, um, like basically like it gets into why do we obey God? Um, and it's, um,

01:54:22.920 I think the specific question is, is anyone good enough for God? And it's, uh, the answer is,

01:54:27.340 no um all have fallen short of the glory of sin and fallen short of the glory of god and uh and

01:54:33.180 then um we say um uh with with obedience it's um gosh i'm so sorry it's escaping me but uh with

01:54:41.980 obedience it's basically it gets to like can anyone be good enough for god can you obey is

01:54:46.780 obedience a means of inheriting salvation the answer is of course no um but then i follow it

01:54:51.760 up and i i detour from some of the classes in the westminster and keach's catechism and some of that

01:54:55.780 it's a lot of Keech's Catechism in Westminster, but I've added some of my own questions,

01:54:59.680 and then I get into, so does obedience matter? That's what I'm getting to. If we're not saved

01:55:05.060 by our own obedience, does it matter? And the answer is yes. And then it's two particular

01:55:10.020 reasons why it matters. I say, why does obedience matter? Is God pleased if we grow in obedience to

01:55:16.400 the Ten Commandments? That's how it is. Is anybody saved by his obedience to the Ten Commandments?

01:55:21.660 No. No one is good enough for God. Can we grow? That's the next question. But if we're Christians,

01:55:27.500 if we're Christians by grace, can we grow in obedience to the Ten Commandments? And the

01:55:31.540 answer is yes. And then the next question is, if we grow in our obedience to the Ten Commandments,

01:55:36.440 is that pleasing to the Lord? Is the Lord pleased by our sanctification even in this life, knowing

01:55:41.500 that in this life no one's perfectly sanctified? So the fullness of sanctification doesn't ever

01:55:46.220 happen in this life, which means every single way that you're being sanctified, every way you're

01:55:49.740 growing in obedience, it's never achieving perfect obedience. All we ever offer to the

01:55:53.560 Lord is imperfect obedience. So is the Lord ever pleased? He's pleased with our positional

01:55:59.240 righteousness, our standing in Christ, which comes by faith alone. But is he ever pleased

01:56:03.700 by our progressive righteousness? Not just our justification. We know he's perfectly

01:56:08.380 pleased in our justification, which is by faith, and that's the perfect righteousness

01:56:11.520 of Christ, which is imputed and not earned. But is God ever pleased with our progression

01:56:17.360 of sanctification in this life. As we grow, as Christians, as we grow in obedience, never

01:56:22.000 attaining perfect obedience, but improving in obedience. And the answer is yes. God, as our

01:56:27.360 Heavenly Father, is actually pleased in our feeble attempts in improving, while not yet ever arriving,

01:56:34.160 still improving in obedience. So that's the first one, is why do we want to grow in obedience? It

01:56:38.900 doesn't save, but we can grow. It is possible. And number one, it pleases the Lord. Sanctification

01:56:44.460 pleases the Lord. Not only justification. Justification perfectly pleases them in terms

01:56:50.060 of positional righteousness, but progressive righteousness of sanctification also pleases

01:56:54.060 our Heavenly Father. The second one is, I ask, when we grow in obedience, as Christians,

01:57:02.240 when we grow in obedience, does it make the world a better place? Is it more loving to our neighbor?

01:57:07.520 And the answer is, again, yes. To grow in obedience makes the world a more loving place

01:57:12.580 for our neighbor. So we want to grow in obedience, not because our obedience saves. Only the perfect

01:57:18.640 obedience of Christ, which is received by faith alone, saves. But by growing in obedience, one,

01:57:23.460 growth in obedience, sanctification, not mere justification, pleases the Lord. Two, growth in

01:57:28.400 obedience, sanctification, is one of the ways that we love our neighbor. The more obedient each

01:57:33.160 individual person is to the law, word of God, that's how we love our neighbor. We love our

01:57:38.820 neighbor by not putting idols in his face, by not taking the Lord's name in his presence,

01:57:44.740 by not stealing from our neighbor, by not coveting what God has sovereignly given to

01:57:50.140 our neighbor, by not murdering our neighbor, by not committing adultery with our neighbor's wife.

01:57:55.060 In all these ways, we're loving our neighbor. And so, can we grow in obedience? Yes. And in growing

01:58:02.220 in obedience, does that please the Lord? Yes. And so, all that back to what you were saying,

01:58:05.680 michael my point is um god doesn't choose certain people to become christians because they were

01:58:11.040 better but when god chooses someone and makes them a christian that does make them better

01:58:15.920 christians are better than non-christians that doesn't mean each you can always do the exception

01:58:21.740 thing that we've already talked about you can find the worst christian and and then find the most

01:58:27.340 outwardly moral non-christian and compare those two and make your your reddit argument you know

01:58:34.560 as a James Lindsay new atheist, that's fine, that's cute. But if we want to be serious people,

01:58:39.800 adults, then you have to look at the group dynamic on the whole. On the whole, regenerate

01:58:45.440 Christians, are regenerate Christians morally superior in terms of outward behaviors? Are 0.61

01:58:50.920 regenerate Christians in general morally superior to unregenerate pagans? If you can't answer that 0.98

01:58:59.540 question with a resounding yes, then you're not being humble as a Christian. You're actually

01:59:06.680 being accusatory in indicting God as having an impotent gospel that is mere fire insurance that

01:59:14.300 covers the penalty of sin, but is impotent and powerless to do anything about the power of sin.

01:59:19.600 And it's the same for nations with cultures, which are simply the comprise of outward behaviors

01:59:26.060 and customs and rituals and actions that's what forms a culture um if you have a christian nation 0.98

01:59:34.880 you have a christian culture and a christian culture beats the hell out of an islamic culture 0.87

01:59:41.240 or a pagan culture or a jewish culture and if it doesn't then what are we doing

01:59:48.000 what are we doing like i you know like i i feel like the response to this you know in the chat

01:59:54.600 should be uh uh you know a shocking news update um joel believes that christianity is true

02:00:01.240 you know like uh shocker joel thinks that christianity christian pastor uh says that

02:00:06.740 christianity is positive for the world right like of course we believe that and so so what do we

02:00:12.200 like yes we want the gospel to spread to every single christian nation but we want we don't

02:00:17.740 want every nation to come here we want the gospel to go out and for nations to become christian

02:00:22.560 and when they do, those cultures will become better. In the meantime, until that happens,

02:00:28.320 those countries that have less Christian cultures, because they have not been Christian nations for 0.57

02:00:33.520 centuries and centuries, those are worse countries. They're worse. It's not everything's 0.84

02:00:38.760 the same. Oh, it's just different. It's a distinction without a difference. No, it's a

02:00:42.740 distinction with a difference. Somalia is not a great place to be. Not by comparison to these 1.00

02:00:49.860 united states of america haiti is not a great place to be and people will get cute again the

02:00:54.620 reddit atheists will say well i just googled the the uh the religion in haiti you know and it's uh

02:01:00.100 whatever 93 you know uh-huh yeah uh catholic christian with a syncretist mix of voodoo

02:01:07.880 and it's been that way for 15 minutes right i'm talking about countries that have been christian

02:01:13.620 since king alfred for a thousand years and arguably 1500 all the way back to constantine

02:01:19.360 So, man, and and a boo-boo.

02:01:23.020 Oh, I got it in the chat.

02:01:24.460 Christian pastor says Christianity is positive for culture.

02:01:27.680 Shocking. 1.00

02:01:28.620 So, yeah, so it all matters.

02:01:30.080 Back to you, Michael.

02:01:31.060 No, that's it.

02:01:31.700 I mean, so really where we were landing is where I was hoping that we would get,

02:01:38.320 and that is just this idea that there are forces that are at odds with the Christian worldview.

02:01:47.200 and the we've we've mentioned this a lot before but that battle is not just a battle in the church

02:01:54.360 over doctrine and that battle is over what is real and what is not and i think that when people

02:02:01.540 look back at this time in history because reality will win what they'll say is this was the time

02:02:07.260 when people tried to say reality is not real on a whole host of issues whole host of issues

02:02:12.940 gender yep yep the whole the whole nine yards yep um and so you know that's why i i think you

02:02:21.800 said it earlier wes um there's optimism right like this cannot continue it it's not a matter

02:02:28.580 really another what's that yeah one way or another nature is going to win the way that god has created

02:02:33.280 the world is going to exert itself there's no arguing with that what's that nature is here

02:02:38.060 yeah exactly yeah yep uh andrew tate is running for prime minister in the uk really and and he's

02:02:43.920 he's great on like there will be no boats coming in boats leaving daily taking people out uh

02:02:49.080 attackers perpetrators rapists they'll rot in prison we're gonna live stream it but man why 0.99

02:02:53.540 couldn't it be a christian that's how impotent we are yeah he's a muslim that's what i was gonna say 0.99

02:02:58.860 and uh his takes and and some of his takes actually are good yeah um he'd be better than 0.98

02:03:04.380 the current one sadly which is some level but yeah but he would be a drastic improvement and

02:03:08.720 that's not to say much of andrew tate that's to say um uh very little about um the current

02:03:13.680 administration in england but um but yeah i've seen some of his takes and there's some good stuff 0.96

02:03:17.660 but um but the glaring terrible sad tragic irony is the dudes a muslim right it could have been 0.66

02:03:25.300 christians we've had the christian kings the christian princes the christian prime ministers 0.98

02:03:29.340 we've had them it could have come from our stock and we just sold the boat well not only that but

02:03:35.000 the reason he converted from christianity now i mean obviously we know biblically that's a testimony

02:03:40.660 that he was not regenerate sure but the point is he was so unattracted to the weakness in

02:03:44.620 christianity that he went to something else that was stronger like even on that he who's now a

02:03:49.220 muslim himself said this is this there's nothing here right because he was just a secular you know

02:03:54.640 not non-religious person and then and then he started realizing you know started waking up like

02:03:59.740 a lot of people red pilling on this and that the other and started realizing whoa we need to go

02:04:04.020 back you know we need something ancient tried true um tested you know and um and secure and

02:04:11.860 you know humanist secular you know mumbo jumbo ain't it and so he was like i so basically it

02:04:17.680 was like he was at a crossroads and was like i need a religion religion is ultimately what

02:04:22.480 humanity has ascribed to since its birth for you know millennia and i need a religion and i'm sure

02:04:29.420 he considered christianity uh but the reason he ultimately didn't choose christianity is because 0.92

02:04:34.400 christianity is fake and gay um but not inherently right it's a pseudo fake shallow christianity that

02:04:42.320 has become that way um but if if andrew tate when he was making this decision if he would have been 0.98

02:04:48.720 able to talk to um the christians of old he would have been like richard the lion heart yeah if he

02:04:53.780 was sitting down with duke godfrey and then muhammad and deciding israel he'd be like right 0.98

02:04:59.260 muhammad is super gay and also a rapist right the very thing i'm trying to stop and uh duke godfrey 0.94

02:05:06.880 um is a man this dude is amazing you know and i guarantee you tate would probably have chosen 0.99

02:05:13.300 christianity so all right that's it i hear my family outside they're saying dada you are done

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02:05:34.500 friday at 3 p.m central time and also make sure on friday um to carve out some time if you're

02:05:41.040 available if you're interested uh for episode one with me and edry whisker on all things israel

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02:05:50.800 God bless.

The NXR Podcast - January 08, 2025

THE LIVESTREAM - How England’s Elites Abandoned Their Country’s Children

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