The NXR Podcast - October 01, 2025


THE LIVESTREAM - Israel Buys Tik Tok | Social Media Crackdown


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00:00:30.000 oy vey israel now has control over tiktok now it's not the government of israel in a formal
00:00:45.640 direct sense but it is many u.s companies making up about 80 percent of the ownership of tiktok
00:00:52.360 the social media platform and many of those companies especially the major shareholders
00:00:57.440 being run by guys who are explicitly Zionist, people who are very pro-Israel, and some of them
00:01:05.260 being Jewish in terms of their ethnicity. And the big concern previously that many people stated
00:01:10.460 was, in regards to TikTok, having a major power grab from China. Same kind of concept. It's not
00:01:19.000 that China, that the Chinese government formally and directly owned the platform of TikTok, but
00:01:24.760 it was a major Chinese company that comprised about 80% or the vast majority of ownership of
00:01:33.700 TikTok. And so the concern was, well, there's going to be Chinese interest, right? There's
00:01:39.460 going to be the government of China, even though they don't own the platform directly by a Chinese
00:01:44.980 company based in China owning TikTok, there's going to be this overlap. There's going to be
00:01:51.380 a conflict of interest. The Chinese government is going to put pressure on this Chinese business
00:01:56.120 to monitor and suppress certain forms of speech or boost the algo in a certain direction that
00:02:03.540 benefits China and their propaganda, the things that suit them, the things that favor them at
00:02:08.820 the cost of other countries like America. Well, it's the same principle now applied in a different
00:02:14.380 direction. It's American companies now that are the shareholders owning 80% of TikTok,
00:02:19.740 but with those companies, Oracle being one of them, one of the major companies, they are Zionist 0.78
00:02:26.920 and have been explicitly clear about this. And this isn't just speculation, right? So this is
00:02:31.620 not just your typical, you know, low IQ anti-Semitism. We're going to bring some of the
00:02:37.260 receipts and show you how TikTok just in the last few days is already suppressing some forms of
00:02:43.720 speech that previously were allowed and what forms of speech is it suppressing well you guessed it
00:02:49.960 the forms of speech that Israel doesn't like Netanyahu the prime minister of Israel has already
00:02:54.720 come out and is beginning to try to manipulate and influence and even pay off certain social
00:03:01.500 media influencers with a predominant presence on TikTok that are on the right to be pro-Israel
00:03:08.900 and to push pro-Israel rhetoric. Israel owns TikTok. That is a perfectly, it's a general
00:03:15.740 statement, but it is generally true. Israel, for all intents and purposes, now owns TikTok. 0.84
00:03:22.180 And here's the deal. They will not be content with merely owning TikTok. They're going to come 0.82
00:03:29.000 for everything. They're going to come for X. They're going to come for your favorite platform. 0.82
00:03:35.620 And when that happens, right now, criticism towards Israel, especially for pretty much everybody in our country, in America under the age of 45, on the left or the right, criticism towards Israel among young people, even on the right, is at an all-time high.
00:03:52.200 Israel knows this. Netanyahu knows this. Israeli intelligence and government, they know this, and they are making a major push to stop it.
00:04:00.240 They know that they're in trouble. They know that the pro-Israel, Israel-first gravy train in these
00:04:05.880 United States is coming to a screeching halt. It's coming to a screeching halt. They have 0.61
00:04:10.840 maybe 10, maybe 15 years left. The boomers are not going to be here forever. The relations that 1.00
00:04:17.320 the United States has had with Israel and a favorable view of Israel is coming to an end.
00:04:23.380 They know that they need to capitalize on the younger generation. They know that the left is
00:04:29.380 pretty much a lost cause, but maybe they could capitalize on young people on the right. So
00:04:34.300 they're paying influencers. They're buying social media platforms. This is the play. And they're
00:04:39.380 not going to be content with TikTok alone. They're going to push further. They're going to try to
00:04:43.780 take it all. That's the episode. We'll bring receipts. We'll show you what's happening and
00:04:48.420 some of our predictions for what's to come. Let's tune in.
00:05:00.280 A big theme for this year has been fifth generation warfare. 0.99
00:05:03.280 We think of first and second generation.
00:05:04.940 That's sticks and stones, right?
00:05:06.260 You go out, whoever's stronger, you just pulverize the opponent.
00:05:09.160 But we've reached the point where actually the real battle,
00:05:11.200 it isn't really even fought kinetically.
00:05:12.920 It's not even being fought entirely with drones and tanks and robots.
00:05:17.700 But it's a battle for information.
00:05:19.440 This is why Palantir and J.D. Vance and Peter Thiel, it's a big deal.
00:05:23.300 If you control information that people can see,
00:05:25.980 my goodness, you control entire narratives.
00:05:28.300 If people are just simply not allowed to say certain things, I mean, then you've effectively
00:05:32.680 made it so that certain conversations, ideas, thoughts, history can't even be discussed.
00:05:38.140 Think of the Chinese Communist Party. 0.88
00:05:40.280 They've censored the entire history of the Tiananmen Square when they murdered their 0.97
00:05:44.260 own citizens.
00:05:45.500 They've simply said, we don't want you to see that.
00:05:47.460 And so we've effectively, through our firewall, has meant that 1.3 billion people have no
00:05:51.820 access to this history.
00:05:53.420 Access to information is important.
00:05:55.660 And we're living in an information age.
00:05:57.560 And TikTok, like it or love it, and I hate it, I don't use it.
00:06:01.160 I think a lot of us would agree it's brain rot.
00:06:03.580 There's a huge generation, 10 years old to probably about 30,
00:06:07.300 they use this thing every day.
00:06:09.860 So you can love it or hate it, but the fact is,
00:06:12.560 maybe it's not your kids, maybe it's not even your church,
00:06:15.680 there's a lot of people that are on it.
00:06:17.200 And so your ability, if you could direct TikTok,
00:06:19.940 hey, this can be shown, this can be shown,
00:06:22.100 we'll allow, for example, this perverse thing,
00:06:24.260 We'll allow this material, but not this.
00:06:27.200 My goodness, you can shape an entire generation,
00:06:29.920 billions and billions of young people.
00:06:31.780 Kings could only dream of the power
00:06:33.680 to influence what 500 million young men are watching.
00:06:37.280 Think about that.
00:06:38.220 Back in the day, nobody had that level of control.
00:06:41.460 But with globalism, for one,
00:06:43.380 so a kind of universally accessible framework and internet,
00:06:46.300 and with corporations that are huge and massive in scale,
00:06:50.160 you can control an entire generation,
00:06:52.120 showing them this, not that.
00:06:54.180 And so that's why this matters.
00:06:56.400 Back in April 2024,
00:06:58.580 relating to these privacy concerns,
00:07:00.500 relating to the control
00:07:01.360 of foreign government could have,
00:07:02.840 Congress, the U.S. Congress,
00:07:04.100 passed a bill that said,
00:07:05.400 TikTok, unless they are sold
00:07:07.400 to a domestically owned
00:07:08.640 United States ownership,
00:07:10.820 they're going to have to shut down.
00:07:12.040 You can't take this data.
00:07:13.200 You can't be stationed 0.98
00:07:14.600 in a foreign country,
00:07:15.740 be collecting all this information.
00:07:17.660 I mean, your phone for certain iPhones,
00:07:20.060 they can track eye movement.
00:07:21.420 So it's not just, oh, I watched this for 1.2 seconds.
00:07:24.740 Where did their eyes go?
00:07:25.780 What colors were they looking at?
00:07:27.420 And so Congress came out, maybe one of the best things they've done in a year.
00:07:30.820 They haven't done a lot.
00:07:31.940 And they said, look, this has to be sold and be onshore.
00:07:34.860 This has to be in the United States.
00:07:35.900 You can't keep collecting this data.
00:07:37.640 This is a big deal, if you remember, towards the end of last year.
00:07:40.280 Is TikTok going to shut down?
00:07:41.820 You had a million Zoomers cried out in agony when there looked like, I think it was about 30 minutes.
00:07:45.660 It went offline.
00:07:46.860 And that was because our Congress, who we elected and the president signed it, said,
00:07:50.460 hey tiktok has to go this is being this is nefarious they're gathering data that they
00:07:55.540 shouldn't have well trump came out and they they formed a deal to basically extend the deadline
00:08:00.420 so even when congress does something good if it's too good they say well we didn't actually mean it
00:08:05.340 we're not actually going to shut it down right so to facilitate tiktok staying open the owning
00:08:10.180 company it's called bite dance and it's uh headquartered in china again not the chinese
00:08:14.900 government as you were saying but a chinese company that chinese company will be susceptible
00:08:19.620 to Chinese governmental pressure. 0.99
00:08:22.240 Yep, exactly.
00:08:23.120 So they've said and they've worked through
00:08:24.940 and Trump's actually brokered this deal
00:08:26.420 to sell it to a number of different firms
00:08:28.260 in the United States.
00:08:29.340 And so when you have something
00:08:30.080 that's worth in the billions and billions,
00:08:31.900 hundreds of billions of dollars,
00:08:33.060 that's not just going to be one investor
00:08:34.460 coming in and buying it.
00:08:35.440 It's not even going to be a government buying it,
00:08:37.140 but it's going to be a package deal
00:08:38.440 where some will manage handling,
00:08:39.920 some will manage, for example, moderation,
00:08:42.340 some will handle finances.
00:08:43.780 This is a huge sale of literally
00:08:45.660 one of the most popular social media platforms.
00:08:48.240 And where it comes in that we're saying Israel specifically has an interest in it.
00:08:52.520 Again, we're not talking about the Israeli government.
00:08:54.480 Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, he's not taking an ownership stake in TikTok.
00:08:59.000 But this has been something that we've got at a lot this year. 0.92
00:09:01.920 When you have people in a nation that you could call them hyphenated Americans, right?
00:09:05.900 So they have one allegiance, American. 0.55
00:09:09.280 We've got paperwork Americans. 0.54
00:09:10.140 We've got paperwork Americans.
00:09:11.440 We've got Tylenol Americans.
00:09:13.520 We've got all kinds of Americans. 0.99
00:09:15.060 It's like Somali American, right?
00:09:16.540 Ilhan Omar.
00:09:17.540 Well, you literally see her saying, well, I have duties to America, sure.
00:09:20.620 I'm literally representative.
00:09:22.180 But also, I kind of really like Somalia. 0.99
00:09:24.360 The reality is there should be no hyphenated American. 0.84
00:09:26.940 You're American or you're not.
00:09:27.960 So I would say that Somalia, you know, so it's not to say all the Somalians, you know, 0.96
00:09:32.000 let's just start calling them Americans instead of Somalian Americans.
00:09:34.660 I think they should be called Somalians.
00:09:36.280 I also think they should live in Somalia.
00:09:37.780 That was Teddy Roosevelt's point back at the early 1900s. 0.98
00:09:40.760 He's like, there is no such thing as a hyphenated American.
00:09:43.120 Do not come here.
00:09:43.760 I'm a French American. 0.98
00:09:44.960 I'm Japanese American.
00:09:46.100 I'm this American.
00:09:47.160 He's like, no, you leave all that behind.
00:09:48.940 It's Ruth back in the Old Testament.
00:09:50.440 Exactly.
00:09:50.840 We use this example all the time.
00:09:51.980 Your God, your nation.
00:09:52.360 So she doesn't say, hey, I'm going to set up little Chinatown,
00:09:55.260 little Moab town in the middle of Jerusalem.
00:09:58.660 No, when she makes the switch, 0.76
00:10:01.080 when she decides to follow her mother-in-law, Naomi,
00:10:03.320 and go back to Israel because now the famine has lifted,
00:10:05.680 there's grain in Israel, and her husband, Naomi's son, is now dead,
00:10:10.760 and her sister-in-law, her husband, Naomi's other son, is dead,
00:10:14.400 and Naomi's husband is dead.
00:10:16.380 She makes the decision, I'm not going to stay in Moab. 0.97
00:10:19.780 I'm going to go with my brother-in-law, Naomi, back to Israel, 0.97
00:10:22.900 and your people shall be my people, your God shall be my God. 0.96
00:10:25.420 She's not putting one foot, straddling the line, one foot in both camps. 0.65
00:10:29.920 She doesn't go back to Israel to be a Moab Israelite. 0.82
00:10:34.220 She goes to be an Israelite. 0.97
00:10:35.360 So there's a forsaking of her foreign gods from Moab. 1.00
00:10:39.160 There's a forsaking of her Moabite people, 1.00
00:10:41.800 and she's going to be fully bought into Israel. 1.00
00:10:44.440 Yep. And so when it comes to Jewish Americans, these are individuals that by descent, they would be racially, ethnically Jewish, a pattern that's emerged. And I mean, even a California professor, Kevin McDonald's written a huge book on this. He's a professor, University of California, evolutionary biologist. And he says, yeah, there's a certain in-group kind of preference that they have for one another. It's not anti-Semitic. It's not a conspiracy theory. Different people that originate from the same point before they move, they share a type of cohesion that they don't share with other people. 0.62
00:11:14.320 German-Americans.
00:11:15.120 German-Americans coming from Germany, moved to America.
00:11:18.000 A lot of them moved to the Midwest.
00:11:19.640 There's huge Dutch communities in Grand Rapids, Michigan.
00:11:22.920 Why?
00:11:23.180 Because a lot of Dutch people that left the Netherlands, moved to America, and then wanted 0.99
00:11:27.240 to be around, start stores for, go to church with other Dutch-Americans, for lack of a
00:11:32.720 They wanted to be with people who were going to have the same kind of religion.
00:11:35.480 They wanted to be with people who would speak the same language, the same foods, the same
00:11:38.280 customs, those kinds.
00:11:39.340 So that's natural.
00:11:40.780 Our job is to not let them come in.
00:11:43.260 Exactly.
00:11:44.080 So the point is, I don't blame them for doing that, for lack of a better word, our leaders
00:11:47.760 for opening the door.
00:11:48.740 Yeah, our immigration policy set this up.
00:11:51.880 So you have millions of, for lack of a better term, Jewish Americans, they live here, they're
00:11:56.340 citizens here, whatever that would mean on paper, but they very much so have a strong
00:12:01.020 allegiance to another country.
00:12:02.740 They care for its prime minister, they care for its wars, they donate money, and where
00:12:08.120 it really becomes a problem is when these people are worth billions of dollars.
00:12:11.700 It's one thing if I have an affinity for Germany
00:12:14.240 because I have ancestry there
00:12:15.320 or someone has an affinity for a certain tribe in Africa.
00:12:18.240 We talked about Vodibachum.
00:12:19.420 He goes back to Zambia.
00:12:21.020 That's one thing. 1.00
00:12:21.580 God bless him.
00:12:22.360 But when you're, for example, Larry Ellison,
00:12:24.600 chief technical officer of Oracle,
00:12:26.080 which is going to be the anchor of this deal, 0.62
00:12:28.440 and you are an avowed Zionist,
00:12:30.520 and you have, it was 2021,
00:12:32.940 he was reported to have even offered
00:12:34.860 now Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu
00:12:37.120 a seat on the board at Oracle.
00:12:39.480 You love Israel.
00:12:42.000 So you're American in one sense.
00:12:43.600 You're a CTO, chief technical officer of an American company.
00:12:47.020 But your whole life, it's like, all right, I got some extra money.
00:12:50.080 Israel, donate.
00:12:51.320 Here, this, that, or the other.
00:12:52.720 All of a sudden, it goes, well, you're about to own the biggest social media company that's existed in the last five years.
00:12:59.380 You'll see here on the screen, Ellison's close ties to Trump and Netanyahu.
00:13:03.060 Again, this is just an objective reporting of the facts.
00:13:05.060 I'm going to read it for anyone that's listening.
00:13:06.920 Larry Ellison, again, CTO at Oracle,
00:13:08.980 Oracle is going to be the anchor in this TikTok deal,
00:13:11.240 has had a decade-long history with the Republican Party
00:13:13.280 and a close relationship with Trump
00:13:14.760 going back to the president's first term.
00:13:16.780 Ellison has frequented Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort for dinner,
00:13:19.180 met him in the Oval Office,
00:13:20.700 as Trump has repeatedly postponed
00:13:22.180 complying with the Supreme Court's January ruling.
00:13:24.720 Supreme Court came in January this year.
00:13:27.060 They said, no, you have to ban TikTok.
00:13:28.780 Congress passed this.
00:13:29.940 As Trump has repeatedly postponed
00:13:31.300 complying with the ruling,
00:13:32.320 if it's not sold,
00:13:33.500 Oracle has emerged as a lead buyer
00:13:35.560 of the popular social media app.
00:13:37.960 In the case of Larry Ellison,
00:13:39.040 it's well beyond technology,
00:13:40.140 sort of CEO of everything Trump said
00:13:41.640 during a news conference
00:13:42.540 a day after he was inaugurated.
00:13:44.420 He's an amazing man,
00:13:45.360 an amazing business person.
00:13:46.980 Ellison is also close
00:13:47.980 to the Israeli prime minister,
00:13:49.520 Benjamin Netanyahu,
00:13:50.680 and has donated heavily
00:13:51.540 to the Israeli military
00:13:52.580 through the nonprofit
00:13:53.560 Friends of the Israel Defense Force.
00:13:55.540 In 2017, he gave the organization
00:13:57.300 his biggest ever donation at the time,
00:13:59.900 $16.6 million.
00:14:02.040 Oracle did not respond to questions
00:14:03.340 from The Guardian,
00:14:04.060 asking if Ellison had donated more recently.
00:14:08.120 The guy loves him some Israel.
00:14:10.240 He's from there.
00:14:11.240 That is his affinity.
00:14:14.500 Here's some of the other buyers.
00:14:15.760 Silver Lake, Private Equity, MGX.
00:14:17.960 So this is an Abu Dhabi-based AI investment group.
00:14:21.680 Andreessen Horowitz, A16Z.
00:14:24.020 So this was co-founded with Mark Andreessen.
00:14:25.980 And I forget his first name, but another Jewish individual.
00:14:28.500 I think maybe Alexander Horowitz.
00:14:30.900 So that's another private equity group that's in there.
00:14:32.900 Some of the other purchasers, Michael Dell, he's the founder of Dell, Jewish CEO, the Rupert and Lakin Murdoch.
00:14:40.300 So those have also been backed by Trump as potential buyers.
00:14:43.340 In short, you have a lot of people with an affinity for Israel.
00:14:45.920 So you're talking about media, which Jews have been overrepresented in. 0.62
00:14:49.220 And now we're talking about the most popular social media, right? 0.66
00:14:51.860 Legacy news is dying.
00:14:53.060 Your CBS, your Fox News, your CNN.
00:14:55.720 At a certain level, they just don't have the reach they did.
00:14:58.480 What does have the reach is TikTok.
00:15:00.020 And now as it's moving to the U.S., it's kind of like, oh, so it's coming to the U.S., so it'll be owned by Americans, right?
00:15:06.100 It'll be owned by Americans, right?
00:15:08.560 No, it's going to be owned by people that very much so have a vested interest. 0.88
00:15:12.180 Jews and Jews adjacent. 0.79
00:15:13.760 Who are making sure certain content isn't there.
00:15:15.580 Let's listen to Benjamin Netanyahu, Prime Minister of Israel.
00:15:18.040 Let's listen to his comments as he realizes they're actually losing the social media war.
00:15:22.740 Yep. 0.90
00:15:24.800 Christian influencers.
00:15:26.960 You said, you talked about the woke right. 0.73
00:15:30.020 And he said, I call it the woke Reich.
00:15:33.580 That's a brilliant, the woke Reich.
00:15:37.120 Because these people, you know, they're not any different from the woke left. 0.87
00:15:41.840 I mean, they're insane, they're the reason.
00:15:44.400 But they're actually meeting on some of the things.
00:15:47.320 And what we have to do is we have to secure that part of the base of our support in the United States.
00:15:53.700 That is being challenged systematically.
00:15:56.680 A lot of this is done with money.
00:15:58.560 money of NGOs vast money of governments vaster okay we have to fight back how do we fight back
00:16:08.100 our influencers I think you should also talk to them if you have a chance to that that community
00:16:14.580 they're very important and secondly we're going to have to use the tools of battle you know the
00:16:21.140 weapons change over time you can't fight today with swords that doesn't work very well okay
00:16:26.580 And you can't fight with cavalry. That doesn't work very well.
00:16:30.580 And you have these new things, you know, like drones, things like that.
00:16:34.580 I won't get into that. But we have to fight with the weapons that
00:16:38.580 apply to the battlefields in which we're engaged. And the most important ones
00:16:42.580 are the social media. And the most important purchase that is going on
00:16:46.580 right now is class...
00:16:50.580 TikTok. TikTok.
00:16:54.580 Number one. Number one. And I hope it goes through because it's, it can be consequential. And the other one, what's the other one that's most important? X. X. Very good. And, you know, so we have to talk to Elon. He's not an enemy. He's a friend. We should talk to him. Now, if we can get those two things, we get a lot. And I could go on on other things, but that's not the point right now.
00:17:19.260 We have to fight the fight, okay, to give direction to the Jewish people 0.95
00:17:25.720 and give direction to our non-Jewish friends or those who could be our Jewish friends. 0.79
00:17:31.340 Are we going to succeed with everyone? No. 0.90
00:17:33.460 Will there be a strong counterpart? Yes.
00:17:37.180 There you have it.
00:17:38.640 So going after TikTok, number two, X.
00:17:41.560 Elon is a friend. Don't like that.
00:17:44.640 We'll see. Pray for Elon.
00:17:46.860 pray that he resists the temptation to be a zionist shield uh i i can't help there's two 0.69
00:17:52.360 things i want to pick out of that video one uh he said you know the the weapons of warfare change
00:17:56.660 and that's what we were talking about fifth generation warfare the battle for information
00:17:59.820 uh propaganda right it's it's messaging uh and so he said you know the cavalry doesn't work
00:18:05.720 swords don't work uh drones don't work i'd be remiss if i did not uh mention at this juncture
00:18:11.240 that drones seem to be working just fine when it comes to Gaza.
00:18:16.320 So Israel is perfectly fine with cavalry, with tanks, with drones, with missiles.
00:18:21.760 But what they're saying is, well, we can't bomb America, at least not, you know. 0.59
00:18:27.780 Until their ships come into our bay, we can't.
00:18:29.660 At least not in an obvious way.
00:18:31.900 Maybe we could do it in a subversive way.
00:18:33.840 But, you know, so they're saying when it comes to the West,
00:18:36.760 when it comes to European nations and predominantly America,
00:18:39.340 because we're the most powerful out of the West,
00:18:42.680 we have to fight fire with fire.
00:18:45.860 So in this case, the weapons of warfare being information,
00:18:49.040 being social media platforms.
00:18:50.320 So going for TikTok, they've achieved that.
00:18:52.360 And then going after X.
00:18:53.880 If you think that X is invulnerable,
00:18:57.440 then you are being naive.
00:19:00.080 X could absolutely fall like this 0.78
00:19:02.220 into the hands of being pro-Israel,
00:19:05.660 shilling for Israel at every single turn. 0.78
00:19:08.420 So that's the first thing that I wanted to mention. The second is all the way back to the beginning of that clip that we just showed with Netanyahu, where he talks about the woke right. And he doesn't name this individual, but he says, you know, I've had, you know, people tell me, you know, the woke right or the woke Reich. And he laughs and like, I think that's perfect. That's a great name.
00:19:28.380 um i'll be honest i first saw that phrase woke right and woke right uh reich uh i both saw them
00:19:36.360 you know coined um in the first instance by james lindsey um and i i don't know about you but um
00:19:44.220 you know james lindsey has had some contributions in the past i think of you know 2019 2020 2021
00:19:50.320 but it's been about three straight years of posting cold like i mean everybody has some
00:19:56.640 cringe i have some like we all post cringe from time to time uh but there's a there's a certain
00:20:01.520 cringe quota that's permissible right that's allowable um but i'm i'm talking three years
00:20:07.380 of 100 cringe 100 coal and uh and yet still somehow has support from somewhere yeah right
00:20:15.940 still in the game still putting out material um still being listened to by someone and um
00:20:22.860 and i think we're starting to get our answers right everybody did this big thing about qatari
00:20:27.240 money qatari money have you seen any qatari money i've been looking for it i've been looking for it
00:20:31.700 i keep waiting you know with bated breath for the check to come in the mail it's never come
00:20:35.160 um but i think uh if we want to really be honest i think we need to point the guns in the other
00:20:41.120 direction so to speak and say uh who's getting zionist money who is getting and and we've seen
00:20:47.160 this it was just posted yesterday um receipts that netanyahu and israel's government is paying
00:20:53.100 seven i think it was like a 68 to uh 6800 to 7200 dollars per post to post positive things for
00:21:01.640 israel from certain you know influencers on the right which to be honest i'd do it because nobody
00:21:08.020 would believe me i would post it and they would be like wait a second you would not do it i would
00:21:11.980 not allow it uh he wouldn't do it ladies and gentlemen i will split it with joke 50 50 can't
00:21:16.580 do it uh can't do it um so this this is what's going on you need to be aware of it here's um
00:21:21.760 we need to get into tactics just briefly so um one there's you know paying uh to purchase a
00:21:28.460 platform two there's paying individual influencers to post things that are positive towards israel
00:21:32.500 to influence young people on the right three um a more subtle approach that uh certain individuals
00:21:38.860 in israel use on a regular basis it has become a tradition of sorts these past few years
00:21:46.220 is all right i'm not going to directly pay you to post something positive about israel and no i
00:21:51.120 don't you know have enough money to purchase you know tiktok or some major social media platform
00:21:55.340 but what i will do is me and my 501c3 organization we will fit the bill for a fully sponsored trip
00:22:03.800 to israel and you'll come to israel and we're not going to make you kiss the wall you know some guys
00:22:08.520 will just do that for free um but you know but we're not going to make you kiss the wall we're
00:22:11.820 not going to make you're running for office you do but if you're a christian minister yeah you're
00:22:15.720 a christian minister so we're not going to make you you know uh kiss the ball we're not going to
00:22:19.420 make you wear the tiny hat greg lock he'll do it for free you know but uh but we're not going to
00:22:23.600 make everybody else do that we just want you to come and think about this this is the pitch right
00:22:28.040 it's it's somewhat of a compelling pitch it's it's subtle it's it's not overt and there's some
00:22:32.100 incentive we're going to pay all expenses paid trip for you know a week or two weeks to israel
00:22:36.920 and you get to see the the holy sites you get to walk the streets that jesus walked right don't
00:22:42.100 you want to see where, right? You're a Christian. Don't you want to see where Jesus ministered and
00:22:45.840 where, you know, where he was baptized and where, you know, where he preached the Sermon on the
00:22:51.140 Mount and these kinds of things. And so a lot of guys will do that trip. And I'm not saying,
00:22:56.360 I want to be clear here, I'm not saying that it is inherently sinful to do that trip. But what
00:23:00.840 I've noticed is it seems as though there's a pipeline. So first you get approached to do this
00:23:07.280 trip all expenses paid uh second you do the trip and you come back and some of these guys come back
00:23:14.360 and will almost immediately start saying positive things about israel that are categorically false 0.72
00:23:19.040 right categorically false like israel being you know the front lines um against lgbt barbarism 0.71
00:23:26.940 that was a quote or islam you know or yeah or yeah even with islam it's like well uh they're
00:23:32.240 fighting islam um in in the middle east they are they are absolutely fighting islam in the middle
00:23:37.440 east man woman and child they are fighting them that's right uh whether all the way down to 0.81
00:23:41.820 starving you know islamic children at every level they are absolutely fighting and that's not fifth 0.86
00:23:46.220 generation warfare that's that i mean that's your good old-fashioned calvary and drones so they are 0.90
00:23:50.600 fighting islam in the middle east to keep islam out of israel but one of the ways they fight it
00:23:55.920 is they decimate Islamic countries and then open the doors in Western countries for immigration 0.99
00:24:03.120 and refugees. They hold open the door. So, like, I admit that the average Jewish person here in 0.99
00:24:10.060 America is not necessarily, you know, a violent person who's, you know, who's doing physical
00:24:17.000 blatant harm. And I do think that when it comes to individual people, I do think that in many ways
00:24:23.280 Muslims in America, there's, there's just way too many Muslims. That is a problem. They're 1.00
00:24:30.100 setting up 90 foot tall, you know, statues to demon gods right outside of Houston in our state
00:24:34.400 of Texas. Muslims are a problem. But when you look at how are Muslims getting in and you look at 1.00
00:24:40.040 the NGOs, right, non-government organizations, and you look at the politicians, American politicians 0.86
00:24:45.600 I'm talking about now, the ones who are opening the doors with, you know, to allow this, this 0.71
00:24:52.420 influx this invasion of muslims into the united states many of them have jewish ties they're 0.98
00:24:58.920 either ethnically jewish or religiously jewish or they're married their spouse is jewish or 0.99
00:25:04.360 they're a zionist and have ties with netanyahu the biggest groups is the hebrew immigrant aid
00:25:08.620 society they started in the late 1800s first for jews to resettle but now it's literally everyone
00:25:13.320 and it is one of the biggest groups for immigration right facilitating it paperwork sponsorship help
00:25:18.720 like we just got to be honest right these have been one of the biggest groups to resettle people
00:25:22.640 here in america so when guys you know make make claims and statements like you know uh jews in
00:25:27.420 america are not the problem it's muslims okay uh but you have to understand how the two groups work
00:25:32.960 in tandem um muslims flood in uh but jews in a general sense not each and every single one of
00:25:40.500 them but in this is a general statement and it is generally true um it is jewish people or those 0.55
00:25:46.580 with Jewish ties who hold the door open for the Muslims to come in. And so back to this pipeline 0.68
00:25:53.140 real quick. So it's, hey, we'll give you $7,000 to post something positive about Israel. All right.
00:25:57.740 Oh, that's too overt. Okay. You need something a little bit more subtle. Well, nevermind. Don't
00:26:01.520 do that. Hey, I would just like to invite you as a Christian, as a Christian influencer, as a
00:26:06.720 Christian, you know, minister to do a trip to Israel, just to see the Holy land and where Jesus,
00:26:11.700 you know where jesus walked um and it's all expenses paid it's a it's a sponsored trip some
00:26:17.200 guys go on that trip again i'm not saying it's inherently sinful to to go on that trip uh some
00:26:21.740 of them go on that trip and they go back and they're the same person and they're authentic
00:26:25.060 right uh other guys go on that trip and they come back and they immediately start saying uh wild
00:26:31.220 ridiculous things that are untrue like saying that you know that that uh israel is the front 0.56
00:26:36.780 lines against LGBT barbarism when Tel Aviv is one of the gay capitals of the world, right? You can't 1.00
00:26:42.840 walk down a single street without being bombarded by the Rainbow Mafia, flags and paraphernalia 1.00
00:26:50.100 everywhere. So some guys are going on this trip, and although it's not overtly said, hey, we'll pay 1.00
00:26:55.600 for this trip, but you have to post positive things on social media about Israel, some of the
00:26:59.440 guys do. They come back and they do that. Not all of them, some of them. Next step in the pipeline
00:27:04.380 is if you go on that trip and you, you know, network and make connections and you come back
00:27:11.520 and even if you don't say things, start posting things positive about Israel, especially things
00:27:15.600 that are blatantly false, but you at least just don't post negative things. You just kind of leave
00:27:20.160 Israel alone, right? You're posting against Muslims, right? You're posting against the 1.00
00:27:24.520 globalists, right? Whoever they are. We know who they're, you know, but we're posting against the
00:27:28.220 globalists, the Marxists, you know, maybe even the Bolsheviks, but we never say who the Bolsheviks 0.98
00:27:32.740 are either, and we certainly are posting against the Muslims. You do that, and you don't say 0.79
00:27:38.560 anything explicitly positive about Israel, but you also don't say anything explicitly negative.
00:27:43.260 Next step in the pipeline, all of a sudden you're invited to NatCon. And in NatCon, that's where
00:27:49.080 we're hearing some of these lines. This is a statement that is not just a throwaway. It's not
00:27:53.180 just a one-off. Many, more than one, many Christian ministers and non-Christian ministers have all
00:27:59.320 made this statement at NatCon recently, just a couple months ago at their latest conference,
00:28:03.500 NatCon 2025. NatCon stands for National Conservative. It's headed up by Yoram Harzoni.
00:28:08.320 One of the statements is that America must be a Christian nation again. We need Christian
00:28:13.380 nationalism. Who would be invited into this project of a Christian nation here in America? 1.00
00:28:20.080 And there are three groups that are explicitly listed, and it's said ad nauseum multiple times. 0.95
00:28:24.980 it's protestants catholics jews protestants catholics jews hindus no muslims no atheists
00:28:32.940 no protestants catholics jews and my problem is not with the rejection of hindus and muslims
00:28:40.180 or atheists for that matter my problem is the inclusion of jews and reformed ministers who i
00:28:46.320 believe should know better and this is one of the problems with the reformed tradition i i love the
00:28:50.700 reformed tradition. I am reformed in my theology. But one of the problems is that because John
00:28:56.860 Calvin and Martin Luther and Zwingli and these guys, one of the biggest battles at their time
00:29:01.920 and their place, right? We don't do theology in a vacuum, right? It's all a matter of providence,
00:29:08.020 time and place, and where God has set us. Well, at their time, the behemoth was Rome. It was Roman
00:29:15.220 Catholicism. So a lot of what Luther is railing against, now Luther does write a book called The
00:29:20.340 Jews and their lies at the end of his life. But early on, and what he's mostly remembered for,
00:29:24.880 is battling not against the Jews, but rather against Roman Catholicism. Same certainly with 0.55
00:29:29.660 Calvin and other reformers. Well, at that time, Rome, I believe, was a much bigger problem than
00:29:37.000 it poses today. Back then, they're selling indulgences, they're oppressing people. Today,
00:29:42.260 you know, you have the Pope blessing, you know, blocks of ice. Not great. Is it cringe? You bet
00:29:47.740 you, right? Like a Catholic Pope does something cringe, must be another day that ends in wine,
00:29:52.180 right? It's, you know, people be like, well, you got Paula White. Well, the beautiful thing about
00:29:55.720 Protestantism is that I have no formal ties to Paula White whatsoever. She has no ecclesiastical
00:30:01.840 authority in the Protestant church whatsoever. But if you're Catholic, then, I mean, you just,
00:30:08.160 you got to sit there and take, I mean, there's some wonderful things. There's some terrible 1.00
00:30:12.920 things. And one of the terrible things is it pretty much every single day you have to rack
00:30:16.920 cupels every single day you have to yep my pope blessed a block of ice yep this happened yep my
00:30:23.720 pope said if you're against abortion but for the death penalty you're not pro-life right you have
00:30:28.040 to say that's your pope and you are bound to him you have to say that is the vicar of christ on
00:30:33.260 earth the vicar of christ on earth is is posting coal and uh and i'm a based you know young catholic
00:30:40.820 who just converted you know three weeks ago and so obviously um i'm you know an expert in all
00:30:46.200 things Catholicism. Well, that's great, but you also have to sit there and say, yep, and the
00:30:51.940 Vicar of Christ is blessing blocks of ice at a climate change conference. So anyways, the point
00:30:57.600 is Catholicism, Roman Catholicism was a major problem in the 1500s, in the 1600s. I do not 0.64
00:31:07.160 view Roman Catholics, and this is where reform guys get mad at me. I do not view Roman Catholics 1.00
00:31:11.480 as a cultural and political enemy today.
00:31:14.940 I don't. 0.97
00:31:15.540 I believe they are co-belligerents. 1.00
00:31:17.320 So I would agree with the statement 1.00
00:31:18.820 that's made at NatCon and elsewhere, right?
00:31:21.300 There's three main groups
00:31:22.820 that are part of this Christian nationalism project.
00:31:25.460 It's Protestants, Catholics, and Jews.
00:31:27.060 I would agree with the inclusion of Catholics. 1.00
00:31:29.760 I don't think that we're going to win 1.00
00:31:31.080 in the United States
00:31:32.540 as we push back against the orcs. 1.00
00:31:35.360 If Protestants, if Reformed guys are being autistic 0.94
00:31:38.620 and saying that Catholics cannot... 0.99
00:31:41.580 I understand the theological issues, right? 0.99
00:31:44.160 I share those issues.
00:31:45.700 They matter.
00:31:46.620 But I'm talking about in the realm of the political and cultural, okay?
00:31:50.820 In the political and cultural realm,
00:31:52.460 I believe that Roman Catholics and Protestants must unite
00:31:55.280 if we're going to win.
00:31:56.600 I don't think we have enough numbers in isolation.
00:32:00.260 But between us, I think there's significant influence
00:32:02.780 and a significant force for good.
00:32:04.740 And that's the view of some of the Puritans, Baxter.
00:32:06.700 Herman Bovink wrote that as well, that the Roman Catholic Church, even as a Protestant,
00:32:10.960 he said they have errors, but they are, in the people in and of themselves, a true church.
00:32:16.140 And on Sunday morning when they gather together...
00:32:17.640 He wasn't necessarily speaking about the Pope in specific, but Catholics, not Catholicism,
00:32:21.940 but Catholics, they gather together, and that it's a true church in error.
00:32:27.440 Yes. And the errors are real, and they matter. 0.95
00:32:29.820 And they matter.
00:32:30.280 But you are consistent with a number of Reformed Protestant thinkers that also thought the same thing.
00:32:35.140 I am. And I honestly, guys, I don't know how to say it other than this. I've said it a few times,
00:32:39.220 but I'll say it again. I'm not interested in just, it's like just LARPing. It's like the
00:32:44.200 reenactment of the civil war, you know, at some, you know, annual festival where everyone dresses
00:32:48.400 up and pretends, you know, the, the South and the North, you know, hashing it out again and
00:32:52.980 everybody celebrates and then they all eat corn on the cob, you know, and, and some kind of
00:32:56.700 refreshment or whatever. Like I'm, I'm not interested in having the annual, you know,
00:33:00.880 Five Solas Conference, you know, every single year. We've been doing it for 500 years.
00:33:07.640 Like, we're going to battle against a dragon that has already, in many ways, had, you know,
00:33:17.120 all four of its legs, you know, bound and tied together, and a bucket of ice, maybe the same
00:33:23.060 ice that the Pope blessed, you know, like poured over its snout, you know, where it's no longer
00:33:27.120 able to breathe fire. It's not the threat that it once was. And yet we're going to pretend,
00:33:33.680 you know, it's like we make like a Roman Catholic piñata and all the Protestants stand in line 0.83
00:33:38.540 once a year at some festival and we hit it together. You know, like I'm just not in, I want 1.00
00:33:42.940 to fight living, breathing dragons. I want to fight the enemy of the day, not the enemy of
00:33:47.620 yesterday. And so that doesn't mean that Catholicism and the theological distinctions
00:33:52.840 between Protestants and Catholics doesn't matter. As a local pastor, I preach about those things as
00:33:57.980 they come up in the text. We do expositional preaching through books of the Bible. But in
00:34:01.740 the cultural and political realms, I believe that Catholics are a suitable, logical ally to fight
00:34:08.880 in those arenas. Jews are not. That was my whole point. My whole point was to say, I don't disagree 1.00
00:34:16.100 with the discluding of Muslims and Hindus and atheists, and I also don't disagree with some 0.92
00:34:23.820 of these guys and their inclusion of Catholics. What I disagree with is their inclusion of Jews. 0.60
00:34:30.400 Muslims are not a part of a Christian nationalist project. They're not. Catholics, I believe, are,
00:34:36.340 in a cultural and political sense, a part of a Christian nationalist project. Jews, though,
00:34:42.320 are not. Somehow Jews got lumped in. Think about that. Like Catholics, for all the disagreements
00:34:48.040 that we have, they believe in the Trinity. They believe that Jesus is the only begotten son of
00:34:53.020 the Father, born of the virgin birth, that he's sinless. They confess the Apostles' Creed.
00:34:57.560 They confess the Apostles' Creed, the Nicene Creed. They believe he died a substitutionary death,
00:35:03.260 that the blood of Christ atones for sin. He was bodily raised on the third day. He ascended in
00:35:07.860 glory and majesty is seated at the right hand of the father and will one day return to judge both
00:35:12.780 the living and the dead. Are there errors? Yes. But is there much agreement? Also, yes. Is there
00:35:21.480 any agreement? So Catholics believe all the things I just said. Jews believe that Jesus is a bastard 0.80
00:35:28.380 son of a whore and that he's currently burning in hell. And I won't be too graphic about how he's 1.00
00:35:33.640 burning, but you can look that up for yourself. They, they hate Christ. They absolutely hate
00:35:40.980 Christ. And so, no, I don't believe that Jews should be a part of this project. So my point is 1.00
00:35:45.620 sometimes it's overt. You're buying TikTok and then coming for X. And we'll talk about that a
00:35:49.860 little bit in the second segment. Sometimes it's overt, but more individual. I'm paying this
00:35:54.880 right-wing influencer $7,000 for a positive post about Israel to turn the tides among young people
00:36:02.200 on the right wing. And then sometimes it's subtle. It's, don't you want to see the streets where
00:36:06.580 Jesus walked? We have a sponsored full expense paid trip and you can come and there's no strings
00:36:12.520 attached. You don't have to say anything positive. You might be a fool and choose to say something
00:36:17.220 positive in your very next podcast, the moment you return, but you don't have to do that. And 0.99
00:36:21.880 if you just don't say anything negative, you might get an invitation to speak at a breakout session
00:36:26.500 at NatCon. And at NatCon, you'll hear one of the lines that is pushed again and again and again.
00:36:32.180 You know that it's overt.
00:36:33.480 You know that it's intentional
00:36:34.840 because multiple people say the exact same scripted thing. 0.59
00:36:38.480 Hey, Christian nationalism, that's what we need in America.
00:36:41.480 This project is an exclusive project. 0.80
00:36:43.960 Many people are not welcome,
00:36:45.020 but there's three groups that are Protestants, Catholics, 0.92
00:36:47.240 and oh, the guys who have nothing in agreement
00:36:50.640 with Protestants and Catholics whatsoever,
00:36:52.500 somehow they're also included.
00:36:54.220 We're a tiny group through the early,
00:36:56.080 it was only through a wave of immigration,
00:36:57.960 I think late in the 1800s,
00:36:59.240 that about 3.5 million Jews came.
00:37:00.880 They were not represented.
00:37:02.180 There was not states, Maryland, that were Catholic.
00:37:05.100 There were not Supreme Court justices that we had early on that were Jewish.
00:37:08.560 But there was a minority of Catholics early on in our heritage.
00:37:11.420 And a meaningful minority, enough to not just say five or ten.
00:37:14.480 A meaningful minority.
00:37:15.380 A meaningful minority.
00:37:17.200 That's my point. 0.94
00:37:18.340 Overall, Protestant. 0.95
00:37:19.580 That's America's history.
00:37:21.160 But a meaningful minority of Catholics present. 0.64
00:37:23.820 there was no minority of jews present until you're already a good hundred years removed not not a
00:37:32.280 hundred years into america right because we forget about you know the 13 colonies and everything you
00:37:36.220 know before the constitution before 1776 but i'm saying no now you're you're a century removed from 0.52
00:37:42.000 1776 and a very small group of jews are just now starting to arrive and yet somehow jews are a part
00:37:50.120 of this restoration, you know, American heritage project, how? And the only answer to that is not 0.52
00:37:57.520 because it's historically accurate, not because it's theologically accurate, because that's
00:38:02.140 certainly not the case. The answer is influence and money. They're getting to be included on the
00:38:08.940 team by many because of power, because they're powerful. And we think that that's wrong and
00:38:16.380 that that needs to be, you know, you don't have to be a jerk, you don't have to be a bigot, 0.98
00:38:20.060 but it does need to be said. It needs to be said publicly, and solid Christians who love the Lord 0.97
00:38:24.560 Jesus Christ and love America and its heritage need to be able to speak out against this.
00:38:30.300 NatCon, that you need to be willing to say that. NatCon, a lot of great stuff. A lot of great
00:38:34.660 stuff. We would agree with probably 95% of the things that are said and appreciated, but this
00:38:40.240 is one line of rhetoric that's being pushed at NatCon. A lot of good stuff, but there's this,
00:38:45.580 and it matters and it needs to be pointed out.
00:38:48.480 You must resist.
00:38:49.400 Yeah.
00:38:49.720 When it comes to money,
00:38:50.600 like we have to remember,
00:38:51.580 so TikTok, NatCon,
00:38:53.180 like we have whole legal categories
00:38:54.740 where people under penalty of perjury
00:38:56.980 have to disclose
00:38:58.340 if they were given money for certain things.
00:39:00.400 If you're brokering a sale of a company,
00:39:02.300 if you're part of a nonprofit,
00:39:04.000 you have to be very upfront.
00:39:05.500 I received money from X as an interested party
00:39:08.360 and I have to disclose it.
00:39:10.100 Judges have to recuse themselves from cases.
00:39:12.340 So maybe they were a client in the past
00:39:13.860 and they have to say,
00:39:14.300 hey, I can't handle this case because I could be biased.
00:39:17.460 We have a huge legal framework for people saying things and saying,
00:39:20.900 and I need to be forthright with you.
00:39:22.180 I need to be honest.
00:39:23.360 I was paid this amount.
00:39:24.740 So these guys that are saying these things, our hope would be,
00:39:27.620 all right, maybe you truly believe it.
00:39:29.040 We could get you a lie detector, push you in the corner.
00:39:31.540 Yeah, you really truly believe that.
00:39:32.980 But you also need to come out and say, and hey, I got about a $10,000 trip for free.
00:39:37.260 And hey, I was paid this amount of money to post.
00:39:39.660 And hey, this is the influence I would get.
00:39:41.540 Maybe it affected my thinking.
00:39:42.740 Maybe it didn't.
00:39:43.480 But I'm just going to be forthright with you and say, I got this money.
00:39:46.960 Be aware of that.
00:39:47.860 Yeah, especially with 501c3s.
00:39:50.100 I think that there should be an obligation, whether it's a church or whether it's a 501c3,
00:39:55.000 to say, yeah, we received donation in this format.
00:40:00.820 Whether it's that is a donation.
00:40:02.220 They're called in-kind gifts, I think.
00:40:03.280 Yeah, that's a donation, a $10,000 trip.
00:40:05.960 You need to mark that down and say, yes, I received $10,000 to go to Israel for a week
00:40:11.620 and a half and these are my positions this is what I'm saying and maybe I'm influenced by it
00:40:17.020 maybe I'm not but you need to be aware that this is a factor and um and apart from that I think that
00:40:22.320 uh that there is a problem so all that being said Israel is absolutely they're not going to just oh 0.79
00:40:27.940 you know what well we lost fair and square no no no no no Israel knows that the entire world
00:40:34.040 the entire world's population of young people um especially Gen Z, Gen Alpha, some Millennials,
00:40:40.280 some Gen X, is souring on Israel.
00:40:44.040 They've had enough. 0.89
00:40:44.760 They've had enough of foreign influence 0.81
00:40:46.800 in our domestic governments.
00:40:49.080 They've had enough of AIPAC.
00:40:50.440 They've had enough of the ADL
00:40:51.720 literally labeling Christian identity as a hate group.
00:40:55.800 Well, the ADL had to remove that glossary of hate
00:40:57.760 because they've gotten so much pushback
00:40:59.300 from a younger generation that says, 0.99
00:41:01.340 this is ridiculous. 1.00
00:41:02.700 It's okay to be white was a hate slogan. 1.00
00:41:05.200 Hey, Black Lives Matter, no problem. 1.00
00:41:07.280 It's okay to be white, bigot. 1.00
00:41:09.640 Bigot. Yep. So yeah, so Israel is not going to give up without a fight. It's not going to be a 0.99
00:41:16.000 whimper. It's going to be clawing and gnashing and giving it everything they got. Right now,
00:41:21.260 Israel in many ways is like a cornered animal, and they're desperate, and they're going to be
00:41:26.500 doing everything they can. They're going to be spending money. They're going to do everything
00:41:31.140 they can to gain back the favor of the West, to be able to manipulate the masses, to be able to
00:41:37.480 to seize the levers of influence that they've had for decades and decades and decades
00:41:43.700 and have recently, finally, began to let up.
00:41:47.600 And they're not going to just say, oh, okay, well, I guess our reign is over.
00:41:51.180 They're going to try to get it back.
00:41:53.040 And buying TikTok is just one way, and you heard it from Netanyahu himself.
00:41:57.340 They are coming for X.
00:41:59.220 So let's go to our first commercial break, and then we'll be right back in our second segment.
00:42:02.800 We'll talk a little bit more about that.
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00:46:17.500 WRITE15 today. All right, we're back. The power of censorship, as we mentioned earlier, is that
00:46:25.460 you can give the illusion of a consensus. We've talked about one of the ways, honestly, that you
00:46:29.320 could destroy the new Christian right, whatever you want to call it, is through banking, through 0.91
00:46:33.900 private institutions for finding jobs like indeed and linkedin social media that would be facebook 0.66
00:46:38.920 x instagram if you were able to algorithmically identify and then quarantine those people you
00:46:44.860 could very much so give the perception of a consensus that wherever someone got their news
00:46:48.960 wherever someone looked for jobs that you would kind of shut out a small proportion of people
00:46:53.060 and they'd be very very unable to make a difference x changed that this was 2023 when elon bought it
00:46:58.560 and it's still not a complete free speech platform and there's problems it hosts adult content it
00:47:03.340 shouldn't there's much about x that we would change but for all practical purposes it has
00:47:07.540 been a place where most of what um could be said most of what isn't illegal most of what isn't
00:47:13.780 egregiously perverse uh it flies and it's also not uh artificially suppressed and this has been
00:47:20.180 a big problem honestly like if you look at the rise there's anti-semitism that's like genuine
00:47:25.260 hatred but if we just want to use kind of the broad term like it's okay to be white that's
00:47:29.000 anti-semitic we just want to talk about kind of a sense of like well why are these people doing
00:47:33.600 this and historically they did this that type of just noticing well a big rise in it has been due
00:47:39.180 to x because now stories history different lessons we've learned through history people can access
00:47:45.080 them as they go for tiktok it's all x like that i mean when you think like what changed um x like
00:47:51.560 having one social media platform that was not suppressing speech like the receipts have come
00:47:56.260 out yeah i mean uh zuckerberg admitted that uh that they were taking directives from the biden
00:48:00.840 administration and suppressing uh major news stories including the hunter biden laptop they
00:48:06.080 suppressed millions of stories and you know he did this speech he's like well you know percentage
00:48:10.480 wise you know that means we were only suppressing you know like maybe 0.02 percent but that still
00:48:16.360 counts like his own admission he said for millions of posts millions of posts were being suppressed
00:48:21.440 we forget how dark of a time it was 2020 to 2024 and when you think like well what happened what
00:48:26.980 changed a major impetus like it's like well it's that trump was elected or it's because this
00:48:32.080 happened like you could actually track uh pretty much everything just to elon buying x including
00:48:37.800 it's like well trump was elected and so now x is better no no you could argue uh elon bought x and
00:48:43.540 that's the reason trump was elected right like yeah you don't have to take my word for it that's
00:48:47.820 huge you don't have to take my word for it that a monopoly of control of private institutions like
00:48:53.040 guys google is private but they effectively control the public square that's right and during
00:48:57.660 covid different treatments different science was suppressed and you literally felt it you're like
00:49:03.380 well i mean like the only information i can find on treatment and on the vaccine uh there's a study
00:49:08.440 i think it was somewhere in europe hey the covid vaccine is linked to an increased risk of cancer
00:49:13.100 for years studies uh headlines like that were suppressed and when they were suppressed across
00:49:18.640 the board you experienced it you couldn't find good data the best data you can find you're
00:49:23.640 pulling up like a website that like has like flashing lights at the top and it's talking
00:49:27.220 about nanotechnology because on the regular social media platforms all of it blanket banned
00:49:33.240 so you've experienced in your lifetime if you're watching this channel you probably agree with us
00:49:37.300 on covid you've experienced the difficulty of getting information of finding like-minded people
00:49:42.800 of getting the story out, of warning
00:49:45.040 others, and that's kind of, if you think
00:49:47.120 about, all right, if TikTok is controlled
00:49:48.980 and has these interests, we're seeing already
00:49:50.860 this is a screenshot, very
00:49:53.160 benign comment. Someone said, Democrats and Republicans
00:49:55.360 are both controlled by Israel
00:49:56.700 through AIPAC. Do some research.
00:49:59.080 That is not a hateful comment. That is literally just
00:50:01.140 saying, hey, objectively, 250
00:50:03.500 representatives, Democrat
00:50:05.460 and Republican, went on a 50
00:50:07.240 states-won Israel tour. Do some research.
00:50:09.400 They're two sides of the same coin.
00:50:10.980 This is a purported screenshot from TikTok
00:50:12.600 just from a day ago,
00:50:14.260 hey, comment removed.
00:50:15.640 This violates our community guidelines.
00:50:17.540 Crazy.
00:50:17.920 You take the biggest social media platform 0.99
00:50:19.460 for young people,
00:50:20.820 you take Facebook and Instagram,
00:50:22.620 if they crack down,
00:50:24.080 there's literally one remaining.
00:50:25.480 And we see this.
00:50:26.720 So a new report came out.
00:50:27.800 These are some of the headlines from it
00:50:29.020 for anyone that's listening.
00:50:30.700 Musk, Elon Musk is X.
00:50:32.460 Go-to platform for anti-Semitism study finds.
00:50:35.720 X posted anti-Semitism on X.
00:50:37.640 That's from the Jewish Council for Public Affairs. 1.00
00:50:40.120 X is among the most effective tools
00:50:41.600 for spreading. Anti-Semitism in history, research finds. Study. Anti-Semitism thriving in plain 0.93
00:50:47.020 sight on X. They're giving you the playbook. They lost control. The left overplayed its hand. It was 0.93
00:50:53.060 with wokeness. It was with BLM. It was with COVID. They overplayed, and there was some pushback.
00:50:57.520 Think about A New Hope. The empire strikes back. And so now the play is, all right, control through,
00:51:03.760 again, not Israel as a government, but private individuals with these allegiances, with these
00:51:09.680 goals control of tiktok privately through here we've got this these i mean zuckerberg you got
00:51:16.480 to connect like he's going to have this interest all the other like we got to be honest parlor
00:51:20.920 like nobody like we're going to go to parlor and connect the other ones are too small the major
00:51:25.500 ones controlled by people with the same set of interests guys there's like one platform remaining
00:51:30.040 there's only one major one yeah there's always going to be alternative platforms you know but
00:51:34.360 it's yeah it like you you lose a massive amount of momentum it's a fraction of the populace it
00:51:40.520 might be one percent maybe it's five percent of you look at the daily users of x and then compare
00:51:45.780 that with parlor or something else if they take the major platforms they win and x may very well
00:51:52.940 be the last man standing yeah so that's basically the play that they've given um be on the lookout
00:52:00.020 for that. 2028 is going to be a huge year. We've talked about this with the fourth turning. There's
00:52:05.240 a lot of momentum that can't be suppressed. Think about energy in a system. The energy has to go
00:52:09.760 somewhere, right? A moving train at 200 miles an hour that has all this energy and it doesn't
00:52:14.200 decide, well, I'm going to take all that energy and I'm just going to stop. Well, if it hits
00:52:17.900 something that it can't go beyond, all that energy dissipates and it goes everywhere. What we have
00:52:22.780 now is cultural momentum. We've been building it since, I think, 2023. There was that old article,
00:52:27.920 the vibe shift something changed in the water about two years ago and it really we've had
00:52:33.120 not not headwinds you've you've used this illustration before not headwinds like man
00:52:37.160 we're we're really having a fight uphill for every little bit no corporations are coming out and
00:52:43.180 celebrating our values uh you have the department of homeland security reposting our guys our cj
00:52:49.240 angle fox news and ron mcintyre we've had tailwinds and we've had support for the last two years so
00:52:54.520 we've made a lot of progress but this is going to be kind of that final backstop i think honestly
00:52:59.300 before you win you've used the idea nat con's the final boss there's going to be one final play
00:53:04.000 can we corral this young men older men some of the millennial these people that they want america
00:53:11.920 they want america back they want america first they're done with immigration they want to be
00:53:16.320 able to work a real job own a real home this is honestly probably the last shot you have to corral
00:53:21.240 They're a couple million strong at this point.
00:53:23.280 There's not nothing.
00:53:24.320 And they're everywhere.
00:53:25.220 And they're starting to accrue power.
00:53:27.300 You've got one shot. 0.99
00:53:28.620 Kick them out. 1.00
00:53:29.720 Isolate.
00:53:30.460 I mean, literally, we had, it was called a quarantine report or National Contagion Institute.
00:53:35.180 It's a contagion.
00:53:36.300 It's moving around.
00:53:37.480 We need algorithms.
00:53:38.340 We need AI to quarantine these people, to get them off.
00:53:41.740 This is what's going to be the play for the next two years.
00:53:43.800 And you have to develop, sure, X is great for finding people, but those people then need to be in person, in person networks.
00:53:50.360 you can lose someone on x forget about them you have their phone number their signal that's
00:53:54.800 actually a lot harder very well said um we've got a number of super chats i feel like we should go
00:54:01.220 ahead and try to get to them let's hit a couple and then do our our break and then uh do some
00:54:05.260 more yeah we'll do that all right uh nathan let's see uh some of the super chats here's one
00:54:09.500 uh we have 50 from not boring dad thank you not boring dad we appreciate your generosity that
00:54:15.540 means a lot uh he said 16 years ago today an absolutely terrified but head over heels and
00:54:22.400 love young man asked a beautiful christian woman to marry him she said yes and has blessed me with
00:54:28.760 many children and as a help mate please tell her um natie loves baby natie loves baby i'm glad you
00:54:38.740 got to read that one yep uh that i the last part was a little cringe but i'm sure it means a lot
00:54:44.240 to that one special someone and had 16 years a husband doing a 50 super chat so that his wife
00:54:51.620 would be honored on their anniversary 16th year anniversary publicly online you can't hate it
00:54:57.640 it's pretty pretty sweet gesture god bless you not boring dad i hope you have a wonderful
00:55:02.280 anniversary god bless your wife and may the lord grant the two of you many more years to come
00:55:07.260 all right this dude rocks sent 20 thanks so much he asked this is a good question why is it common
00:55:13.960 for American churches to criticize alcohol use but ignore gluttony, though Scripture warns about
00:55:19.020 both equally. Proverbs 23, 21 puts drunkenness and obesity side by side, yet only the first is
00:55:25.660 usually denounced. I will definitely say there's different time periods that have different
00:55:30.780 prevailing sins. In the early 1900s with the temperance movement, we have to be honest.
00:55:35.580 There's a lot of men that would work, and they would take all of their money, and they would
00:55:39.200 drink themselves into a stupor. They would not provide. They would not leave in the home, and
00:55:42.340 They would not go to church.
00:55:43.640 And at some level, I'm not justifying the temperance movement,
00:55:46.540 but at some level, it was saying, hey, we have men that are drunks.
00:55:50.500 They are not caring for their family.
00:55:52.540 They are addicted to alcohol.
00:55:54.740 And I would bet during that time, the early 1900s,
00:55:57.480 especially into the Great Depression,
00:55:59.200 you did not have a lot of people that were obese.
00:56:01.560 So at that time, I think the emphasis was correct.
00:56:04.160 That was not the time, like, all right, we're doing a 16-part series on gluttony.
00:56:08.060 But it would be appropriate for alcohol.
00:56:09.760 Now, what's funny is alcohol sales are actually going down a ton.
00:56:12.760 They are.
00:56:13.120 I saw that.
00:56:13.800 Unusual Whales just posted.
00:56:15.360 It's like at an all-time.
00:56:16.360 It's like a record low.
00:56:16.940 Record low, yep.
00:56:17.900 So we're at a time, I mean, practically in my Christian life.
00:56:21.100 I've known a couple people.
00:56:22.100 They're like, hey, I can't drink.
00:56:23.480 I just, whatever happens, I get one beer in me.
00:56:25.680 I can't do it.
00:56:26.580 They've said, hey, for my personal conscience, I won't even touch one.
00:56:29.780 But it's not been that many. 0.91
00:56:31.380 But of Christians that, to be honest, just by the appearance, 0.98
00:56:34.780 struggle with the sin of gluttony, 0.80
00:56:36.760 there have been many many more that i've known in my lifetime and so and i agree the question i agree
00:56:42.380 but in terms of the question why i mean the simple answer is um it's not preached against because the
00:56:48.040 preacher gets to determine the preaching and preachers are fat yep i don't think we have a
00:56:53.820 lot of drunk preachers so they're comfortable preaching against the sin that they themselves 0.90
00:56:57.920 don't struggle with but we do have a lot of fat preachers i i wish we could take you know pete 0.95
00:57:02.340 headset and uh and put them you know in like some pastor's conference and give the same speech
00:57:07.720 about you know bmi and some of these things subscribe to the westminster standards and
00:57:13.020 meet army heightened weight standards no i it is it is a serious sin like when a man gets to a
00:57:19.240 certain level of obesity and i'm not talking like 10 20 pounds overweight but like morbidly he gets
00:57:24.060 to the point where it's difficult to father children he will not live as long as far as
00:57:28.120 being a protector of the home there comes a point where you're inept you can't go up the stairs
00:57:32.180 without getting winded you couldn't chase you couldn't fight you couldn't heaven forbid your
00:57:36.740 your kid was snatched you couldn't move fast enough to do anything about them to over and
00:57:41.700 over again for years on end to the point where you are morbidly obese is a serious sin against
00:57:46.320 nature and it should be talked about yeah and it's also a visible sin so there are private sins
00:57:50.620 and in terms of your standing before god it's quite serious um but it's one thing to um it's
00:57:57.340 one thing to sin it's another to be actively sinning and um you know when you're publicly in
00:58:03.440 the presence of others in such a way that could uh cause others to stumble um so you know like
00:58:09.340 think of you know romans 14 you know anything that does not proceed from faith to sin or first
00:58:14.360 corinthians talking about you know the brother with a weaker conscience and the one with faith
00:58:18.300 um who's more mature we have these biblical texts that uh what i'm getting at is that whether it's
00:58:24.440 meat sacrifice to idols, or whether it's alcohol consumption, we have these biblical texts that
00:58:29.160 talk about how something may be, in the objective sense, morally permissible, meaning that it is
00:58:35.340 okay for you to do with a clean conscience, to do in faith, such as drinking alcohol. But in these
00:58:41.900 same passages, we have contexts, and context matters, where it says it is objectively permissible
00:58:47.880 for a Christian to, in moderation, drink alcohol.
00:58:52.520 But there are some contexts where you shouldn't. 0.95
00:58:56.080 For instance, there's contexts where you cause
00:58:57.820 a weaker brother to stumble.
00:58:59.020 Well, when it comes to gluttony, the visible,
00:59:01.100 it would be like having alcohol,
00:59:07.740 like taking a shower every morning in beer
00:59:10.940 and having a rank stench,
00:59:15.540 strong smell of alcohol on your person your breath your clothing every single day so it's like well
00:59:22.540 i'm not drinking in front of people right i'm not i'm not eating a full you know large size pizza
00:59:27.100 by myself you know like uh in front of a crowd of people yeah but but the visible signs of your
00:59:33.300 gluttony you're wearing them on your body in your waistline every second of the day so it would be
00:59:40.100 like well i'm not drinking a fifth in front of people yeah but you smell like you did um and so
00:59:45.960 in the same way that it would be improper right it is a it is morally permissible to in moderation
00:59:50.760 drink alcohol as a christian but it would be improper to douse yourself with a fifth of of
00:59:58.260 gin every morning on your way in to work and go to alcohol anonymous to observe right so in the
01:00:06.020 same way that's how gluttony is because it's it's it's this apparent constant continual visible
01:00:11.960 sign it's a constant publicly visible sign of sin so it's very serious and I can only guess
01:00:20.320 that the reason more pastors don't preach against it is because more pastors are guilty of it all
01:00:26.760 right next comment uh let's hit our second commercial break and then we'll finish out the
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01:03:57.800 regular donors and asking good questions, making good comments. We appreciate you, Nick. Thank you.
01:04:04.160 he gave us 10 bucks and said i pray that uh xi pin or uh zi zing zing yeah sorry the the
01:04:13.600 president of china right yeah okay president of china does not allow the usual suspects
01:04:18.440 to censor our glorious anti-semitism app i don't know if he cares whatsoever i don't think he cares
01:04:25.480 yeah and that's why like i tweeted out you know the other day and it got like 320 000 likes just
01:04:31.400 a little a little before lunch banger just a little before lunch banger 300 i think it's like
01:04:35.980 315 000 likes um but i said um i did you know the little image of the you know the rockefeller type
01:04:43.620 painting with the guy standing up in the chapel everyone's looking at him and he's saying something
01:04:47.400 courageous and you know it wasn't that courageous but you know i said uh i would rather china own 0.95
01:04:52.320 tiktok than israel yeah and um and the reason why is not because i don't think that china poses any
01:04:59.040 threat or any problem whatsoever. I'm not a big fan of the Chinese government, um, by any stretch
01:05:04.400 of the imagination. Uh, I don't think that they should be allies. Um, but I, I think for me, um, 0.97
01:05:11.380 I think that most, I think most Americans are kind of more aware of that. I think that most
01:05:16.780 Americans are pretty conscious of the fact that China is not an ally, that China doesn't have our
01:05:21.880 best interest at heart. Whereas with Israel, one of my concerns is that I actually think that
01:05:30.260 they're far more subversive. I really do. I think that a lot more people in America, especially 1.00
01:05:35.820 Christians, have the wool pulled over their eyes. And so I'm more concerned, especially as a
01:05:42.520 Christian and a Christian minister, I'm far more concerned about American Christians who are 0.75
01:05:46.920 deceived by israel than american christians who none of them really are fond of the chinese
01:05:52.180 government to begin with yeah uh we also had to practically say too it's kind of easy to tell if
01:05:57.920 you have someone that's obviously chinese or chinese american and they're advocating no we
01:06:01.900 should sell this land off to the chinese communist party well that i kind of see what's going on here
01:06:06.620 right but if i was to go to europe and learn german and then oh i think that we should uh 0.53
01:06:11.060 bring in these people or that it wouldn't be as easy to decipher and so with china
01:06:15.380 their probably next move is Taiwan. 0.95
01:06:17.180 They want to bring Taiwan and fold it underneath. 0.94
01:06:19.260 That's probably what they're going to do.
01:06:20.940 I don't think we're looking at a full-scale attack or nuclear war.
01:06:24.320 We kind of know their plan.
01:06:25.280 It's going to be very obvious if Taiwan, if they declare war in Taiwan, if they invade it.
01:06:29.180 But on the other end, you won't actually even notice if that friend that you used to hear from,
01:06:33.320 that page that you liked the posts from,
01:06:36.180 you're probably going to actually forget about them if they quietly get banned.
01:06:41.180 That is much more nefarious.
01:06:42.440 That one's much easier to kind of pull the wool over the eyes than, oh, we happen to capture the semiconductor capital of the world for manufacturing.
01:06:50.520 We all know what the play is there, and we can respond accordingly.
01:06:53.220 When that happens, well, who do I appeal to?
01:06:55.060 Who do I go to?
01:06:55.700 Who made this decision?
01:06:56.940 It's cloaked in secrecy.
01:06:58.440 Yep.
01:06:58.920 Well said.
01:07:00.200 Hal gave us a $10 super chat.
01:07:02.240 He doesn't have a comment or a question attached.
01:07:03.880 He just gave us $10 being generous.
01:07:05.620 Hal, we really appreciate that.
01:07:06.840 Thank you.
01:07:07.820 And then we've got one more super chat.
01:07:09.440 It's $100 from Dylan Harrington.
01:07:11.840 $100 from Dylan Harrington.
01:07:13.660 Dylan, thank you.
01:07:14.260 That's very generous.
01:07:15.140 We appreciate it very much.
01:07:17.060 Dylan says, how long before TPUSA comes out with a pro-Israel statement?
01:07:22.620 What do you think, Wes?
01:07:24.440 Charlie Kirk, he loved him some Israel.
01:07:26.500 He loved him some Israel.
01:07:27.460 And he was probably, honestly, the forefront.
01:07:29.600 You think of different apologists, one of the youngest,
01:07:32.760 and one of the most vocal supporters of Israel.
01:07:35.140 Like Dennis Prager is, what, like 1,500 years old at this point?
01:07:38.020 And paralyzed.
01:07:39.080 And at this point paralyzed.
01:07:40.880 So he was the youngest, which was really engaging.
01:07:43.300 And then TPUSA, I mean, he was the CEO.
01:07:45.600 He was the leader.
01:07:46.300 And so they reflected that vision.
01:07:48.680 How long before they come out with the pro-Israel statement?
01:07:50.960 We'll see.
01:07:52.840 It depends how, because Erica Kirk, she's aiming to kind of continue his legacy,
01:07:57.720 kind of continue the mission that he started.
01:08:00.260 We'll see how much of it came across in private.
01:08:01.880 So she thinks about the things that Charlie stood for.
01:08:04.600 Is that going to stand up there?
01:08:06.040 So she's going to say he wanted conservatives,
01:08:08.600 and he wanted people to have families 0.83
01:08:10.060 and he really wanted Israel to do X and Y and Z,
01:08:13.700 maybe that comes across
01:08:14.540 and maybe you'll see a podcast episode
01:08:17.740 with so-and-so talking about the dangers of anti-Semitism
01:08:20.740 or also practically she could carry on the vision
01:08:23.460 and just by virtue of the people that join it,
01:08:26.960 they kind of recognize, yeah, this is not the issue to die on.
01:08:29.360 It's not a winning issue.
01:08:30.200 Like Charlie studied for years
01:08:31.660 because he was literally saying towards the end
01:08:33.300 every single time he would set up on campus,
01:08:35.480 hey, why do you support Israel doing this?
01:08:37.180 do you know what the talmud says about this why but what about israel being involved in these or
01:08:41.440 jews being involved in these social movements he was literally like a full-time apologist for
01:08:45.080 israel he was conservatism on the side and like he loved him some israel he did whether that will
01:08:50.440 be continued depends on the people who take uh leadership different tp usa chapters the people
01:08:55.960 themselves like you start tp usa chapter and you break out the israel flag and 50 of the people
01:09:02.220 that just joined and they're excited about it walk out that sends kind of a message and so that
01:09:06.960 very much so remains to be seen the the inertia is certainly pro isu that's what tp usa has been
01:09:12.360 that's what charlie was for better for worse will that continue we'll see yeah so i think it's yet
01:09:18.260 to be determined we have to see you know erica has been appointed ceo of tp usa but you know who
01:09:23.840 actually comes alongside her um i'm hoping that you know the majority of her time is spent as a
01:09:28.920 mother with her two children uh who now have the deceased father um and so i i don't think that
01:09:34.220 you know, she'll be CEO and be making some decisions. But day in and day out, I think it's
01:09:39.760 probably going to be new leadership that fills the void. And so it depends on who those individuals
01:09:44.680 are and what their convictions are. But there's one other factor that I think we'd be, you know,
01:09:50.240 in the spirit of this overall episode, we'd be remiss if we didn't include. It also depends on
01:09:55.520 whether or not there's a handsome check. I do think that it's entirely, we know that Charlie,
01:10:01.360 at least from what we've heard allegedly he turned down 150 million dollars from israel
01:10:07.700 dylan followed up and said i was under the impression that his sentiment towards israel
01:10:12.120 changed shortly before yeah so i don't think i don't think so so i've heard a lot of people
01:10:16.860 saying that i think that charlie you know he did one of these and put his finger in the wind and
01:10:22.100 realized um i cannot be insufferable unapologetic shill for israel and keep you know a fraction
01:10:31.260 of the amount of influence that he had built up over the last 10 years. I think he just realized
01:10:35.640 this is a losing issue. And if I want to be effective on the right in conservative politics,
01:10:42.640 I've got to at least be willing to humor the other side. It seemed, at least appeared to be
01:10:50.580 a little bit more objective or, you know, or at least individually as the man, the person,
01:10:56.600 charlie kirk i can be pro israel uh but i at least you know need to score some points with
01:11:01.480 this massive growing you know population of people who really do not like israel score some points by
01:11:07.240 at least platforming some people who represent the other side of the aisle and and so that's
01:11:11.780 what you saw in the latest tp usa uh conference before charlie's assassination you saw dave smith
01:11:17.380 you saw tucker carlson and a lot of people put a lot of pressure on charlie and good on him
01:11:22.220 um you know like he even had i think with meg kelly or something you know there's clips from
01:11:26.560 a podcast uh where he you know was talking about how much pressure um he was under to drop tucker
01:11:33.500 carlson as one of the speakers at tp usa and he didn't and he even not only did he have dave smith
01:11:38.700 and tucker carlson and give tucker carlson a main session but he hosted a conversation about
01:11:42.920 what's happening you know in gaza and and what's going on with israel and iran with dave smith
01:11:48.280 through very outspoken against it. And so he actually had not just those individuals, but
01:11:53.680 that designated topic and discussion represented at TPUSA. So in that sense, I think Charlie was
01:12:00.200 pivoting his tactics. The way I see it, I don't think he was shifting his position. I really
01:12:06.340 don't. I think Charlie loved him some Israel to the day that he died. He loved Jesus and he loved
01:12:11.340 Israel. And I'm like, well, I would have preferred for you to pick a lane, you know, but like many,
01:12:18.280 I mean, let's just think, you know, the last 50, 60, 80 years, a lot of people have died just assuming that Israel is God's chosen people.
01:12:28.580 And, you know, and I think, you know, they died in ignorance.
01:12:32.660 So I don't think that Charlie was nefarious.
01:12:34.660 I'm not saying that he was malicious, but I think that he had the mainstream view that was common among conservatives in America at the time of his ascendancy.
01:12:45.180 Well, think about money, too.
01:12:46.060 I mean, Dennis Prager was a huge influence in his life.
01:12:48.280 who kind of gave him platforms and understandably there was more at play than just simply israel he
01:12:53.320 was a he was bright he was articulate he was well studied but practically the only way you were
01:12:57.900 going to make it a conservative media 10 years ago honestly even still to a degree today most
01:13:03.300 certainly 10 years ago well everyone there would have would have been pro-israel so it's also the
01:13:07.420 milieu he crew group came up in it was the money yeah here's from those people like just be honest
01:13:12.740 yeah let's just be honest like it's like everybody knows he's a household name right he's a household
01:13:17.180 name because he was pro-israel yeah if he was outspokenly against israel uh is talented so i'm
01:13:23.660 not i don't want to take away anything from him so i'm not saying he was just pro pro-israel there's
01:13:27.800 plenty of pro-israel people who are you know they don't have any talent to speak up you know so you
01:13:32.080 don't know their name charlie you know uh was pro-israel and he was talented he was gifted he
01:13:36.420 was sharp he was likable he was charismatic you know all these different things he was um he had
01:13:40.720 that protestant work ethic he was incredibly disciplined um you know vigilant and all these
01:13:45.300 different things. And so he was a rising star on his own merit, with his own giftings, his own
01:13:50.020 discipline, his own work. But his pro-Israel position may not have exactly, you know, put him
01:13:57.960 on the map. But if he was against Israel, it would have been an inhibitor. Well, Ben Shapiro would
01:14:04.060 never, like, nuke an intern just for asking questions, right? He would respond and give him
01:14:08.360 the reasons. Especially someone who only has a thousand Twitter followers at the time. Yeah.
01:14:13.260 webcam from his dorm room or or a uh secretly recorded uh cell phone from a random girl when
01:14:21.200 you don't even know you're being recorded and then that's put online and then retweeted by
01:14:24.720 ben shapiro so yeah charlie you you know of charlie because um he was gifted he was godly
01:14:31.120 a lot of great things hats off to charlie um you also know of charlie uh because he towed the line
01:14:38.440 on israel and uh if he had not um i i don't think i think he still would have been gifted and gone
01:14:44.680 far but in the climate on in conservative politics in america as it's been until very very recently
01:14:51.540 last couple years um it would not uh have allowed for um charlie to been outspoken against israel
01:14:58.760 and still have the degree of notoriety that he was able to achieve so no i don't think that charlie
01:15:04.460 was changing his position um i do think though that as the cultural winds have shifted and people
01:15:10.320 many young people because that's the thing charlie wasn't just a conservative his whole thing
01:15:14.460 was uh was reaching the youth right so he literally had his whole platform is not just
01:15:22.000 conservative politics but particularly you know college students and high school students the youth
01:15:26.360 and the youth is the exact demographic that has in you know before our eyes very quickly and
01:15:33.780 significantly soured on israel and so i think charlie knowing that um that the youth is his
01:15:39.420 target audience and that the youth are souring on israel i think he made some concessions in his
01:15:46.260 tactics right like a willingness to have dave smith tucker carlson have some of those conversations
01:15:51.300 i don't think that he actually changed in terms of his position that's that's my best guess and
01:15:57.540 that's the power of money glenn beck um dennis prager ben shapiro when you have money and
01:16:02.820 influence you get to be a kingmaker so you get to pick and choose hey i like this guy he's using
01:16:07.560 our rhetoric i like this this guy he's towing the line at least he's willing to oh this guy isn't
01:16:11.980 i'm going to demote him that's the power whether it be money enough to buy tiktok and own a
01:16:16.460 platform set your own moderation levels on it whether it's the ability to take up and coming
01:16:20.920 young stars and make them into household names that's the power of money money makes you a king
01:16:26.200 maker right media individuals for the kingmakers at the time uh that's what they saw in charlie
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01:17:23.600 final words Wes there's a good question are we justified by works I don't want to open the huge
01:17:28.460 we talked about Protestants and Catholics but it's really the distinction it's important and
01:17:33.100 it's fascinating so are we justified by works to be justified is this is what Luther captured in
01:17:37.960 the Protestant Reformation he actually went back to the Greek and in the Greek the word for
01:17:42.080 justification dikaiosune righteousness forensic it's declarative forensic it's judicial yeah so
01:17:49.580 justified in that sense in the greek the language that it was written in is the idea of am i declared
01:17:55.820 righteous based on what i do declaring me righteous in a court exactly now jerome not not being
01:18:02.940 righteous or becoming righteous but a moment justification is likened to a process of being
01:18:09.200 made righteous justification is likened to a declaration or pronouncement in a moment so
01:18:16.260 So it was a sanctification, a process being made righteous, justification, a moment being
01:18:20.800 declared righteous.
01:18:21.880 Yes.
01:18:22.400 But Jerome, when he translates the Latin Vulgate, the word in Latin that is used is more the
01:18:27.380 idea of to make just.
01:18:29.300 So this was what was burdening Luther's conscience.
01:18:31.700 He said, well, God justifies the righteous, but I have to be made just.
01:18:34.600 And I'm a sinner here and I'm a sinner there.
01:18:36.180 And that's the crucial distinction is that justification, it's a one-time thing.
01:18:40.300 And in the original language, the language Paul is using, it is a legal declaration.
01:18:45.560 So our works don't factor into it.
01:18:47.560 We are declared righteous because Jesus died for us.
01:18:50.340 God looks on Christ as if he was us.
01:18:52.980 Now, sanctification comes in because James says justification without works is dead.
01:18:57.620 What does he mean?
01:18:58.160 That we're justified by our works?
01:18:59.280 No, justification lacking the attending sanctification.
01:19:03.720 There is a sense in which justification also makes us righteous.
01:19:07.120 We're made by being declared righteous, made righteous in sanctification.
01:19:11.580 So we're not declared right with God because of works.
01:19:13.620 but in the final analysis our sanctification will be evidence of oh yeah they were legally declared
01:19:20.580 justified righteous before god right luther put it like this he said we're saved and justified
01:19:26.060 when he said saved he's primarily talking about justification there's a sense in which
01:19:30.180 we have been saved we're being saved ephesians says we are being saved and also we will be saved
01:19:35.420 i think of romans chapter seven where paul the apostle who i believe this is post-conversion
01:19:39.500 he's already a Christian, and yet he still writes, who will, right? Who will, future tense,
01:19:44.160 save me from this body of death. So he's not saying who will save my soul, his soul has already
01:19:48.600 been saved, justification. He's not saying who is saving me, present tense, the renewing of his
01:19:53.660 mind, sanctification, but who will save this body, speaking of a future tense element of salvation,
01:20:01.840 namely glorification, right? The salvation of the body. So you can look at it like this,
01:20:06.380 justification, sanctification, glorification. Justification past the soul having been declared
01:20:12.300 righteous, the soul being saved. Saintification, present and ongoing, that is the mind being
01:20:19.080 renewed, being sanctified, you're being saved. And then glorification, the body being fully
01:20:24.960 restored and redeemed and resurrected on the final day, the body and that future tense, you will be
01:20:30.660 saved. So we have been saved, we're being saved, we will be saved. Justification, sanctification,
01:20:34.780 glorification. And so back to the Luther quote, he said that we're saved by faith alone. And when
01:20:40.800 he says saved here, he's not speaking so much about sanctification or glorification, but namely
01:20:44.600 justification, that the salvation that for the Christian is already a past tense. It's a moment
01:20:49.840 of being declared righteous. So he's saying we're justified, saved in the sense of justification.
01:20:55.220 We are justified by faith alone, but true saving faith is never alone. So he says we're saved by
01:21:02.780 faith alone, but true saving faith is never alone. And so what he's saying is it is the faith alone
01:21:07.780 that saves, but if it be a saving faith, a real faith, a living faith, then it will always be
01:21:14.460 manifest with good works. Good works, I always think of Samwise Gougie, right? When Frodo is
01:21:21.640 hopping into the little boat and he's about to paddle down the river and he's leaving the rest
01:21:26.920 of the company, this is Fellowship of the Ring, leaving the rest of the company behind because he
01:21:31.280 realizes that, you know, the task that's been appointed to him to take the ring to Mordor so
01:21:36.380 that it could be unmade. He realizes that this is a great risk and that he is ultimately, he poses
01:21:42.100 a threat to everyone around him. And so he's not wanting to endanger the rest of his company,
01:21:46.860 the fellowship of the ring. And so he's going to set off alone. And so he climbs into the boat and
01:21:51.500 he's already, you know, pushed off from the shore and he's in the middle of the river starting to
01:21:56.100 paddle. And Samwise, you know, realizes that he's gone and he catches up to him. He's standing on
01:22:00.660 the shore. He said, Mr. Frodo, no, no, don't leave. Don't leave. And Frodo says, I'm sorry, Sam. I have
01:22:07.880 to do this alone. I have to go and destroy the ring. And Sam responds by saying, of course you
01:22:12.960 do. And I'm coming with you. And I think of that with faith and works. So it's like faith is on
01:22:20.100 the ship. Faith is like Frodo and works are like Sam. So Frodo is like, but I'm saved by faith
01:22:27.540 alone. And then good works. Sam's like, of course you are. And I'm coming with you. And that's kind
01:22:34.060 of the picture of the Christian life. It's like good works for the Christian. It's like, faith is
01:22:38.420 like, no, but I'm saved by faith alone. And good works are like, of course you are, but we're
01:22:42.320 coming with you. And so it is with every genuine Christian born again by the spirit of God,
01:22:47.820 by grace alone, through faith alone, in Christ alone, that person cannot help but have Samwise 0.96
01:22:53.720 gouging good works uh wading into the water and forcing himself onto the ship and coming with you
01:22:59.120 because if you truly have faith you will have good works we're saved by faith alone
01:23:03.680 but saving faith is never alone we have a catholic in the chat he said joel is quoting
01:23:09.300 catholic tolkien to shore up luther how disrespectful and to clarify we love tolkien
01:23:14.780 and he was catholic and we appreciate him very much we also love gk chesterton appreciate him
01:23:18.960 very much and to clarify when i said about jerome translating sometimes in different languages like
01:23:23.120 there's german words that don't have an english equivalent so i'm just practically saying that
01:23:26.820 one of the outworkings the greek into the vulgate into the latin was it had more of an idea of to
01:23:31.900 whereas i think in the greek and i think the way you espouse it is a much more helpful term instead
01:23:37.520 of feeling as though well i have to make luther called it forensic righteousness god has legally
01:23:43.220 declared me as if i've never seen imputed not infused right through a process or through
01:23:48.560 sacraments but imputed accredited to the account it's like a bank transfer all the righteousness
01:23:54.240 of christ transferred imputed not infused in a moment in a moment uh through faith forensic
01:24:01.760 righteousness judicial righteousness declared declarative righteousness and i can understand
01:24:07.340 what catholics can try to guard against well if you just make it about faith and it sounds like
01:24:11.100 someone says magic words or believe some intellectual ascent that they can be saved
01:24:15.560 and go on and we call that a paperwork christian paperwork america there's
01:24:19.320 paperwork americans like ilhan omar and then there's paperwork christians it's
01:24:23.380 like well where's the paperwork you know the billy graham crusade where
01:24:26.100 they literally signed a piece of paper when they walked down the aisle like
01:24:28.740 there's a like 99 of them stuck with it right
01:24:31.040 there is such a thing as a paperwork american there's also such a thing as a
01:24:35.120 paperwork christian and luther was not uh ever advocating for one of those uh
01:24:39.220 but for the catholics in the chatter they're saying yeah but there's a lot of
01:24:42.060 protestants today who are uh we would say uh-huh so true king you're absolutely right um and that
01:24:47.740 is a major problem um but we're not that's not who we are we want to see christians do good works
01:24:53.100 and i think of the book of hebrews it says uh that we should earnestly pursue holy holiness for
01:24:58.440 without which no one will see the lord even rc sproul who you know was a protestant died a
01:25:02.940 protestant faithful protestant um and was outspoken against roman catholicism uh pretty much every
01:25:08.840 every day that ended and why um even he said uh that that holiness that hebrew speaks of for
01:25:14.940 without holiness no one will see the lord he said um i bet my hat that the holiness being spoken of
01:25:20.760 here is a progressive righteousness belonging to sanctification and not the accredited imputed
01:25:26.820 righteousness holiness that comes through faith and justification from christ so and essentially
01:25:31.860 what Sproul was saying is, without good works, active, ongoing, progressive, sanctification,
01:25:39.100 good works, you will not see the Lord. Why? Because we're saved by works? No, because the absence,
01:25:44.080 the total absence of good works is proof positive that there's no justification.
01:25:48.780 And he also said, one more example from Sproul, he spoke of when Jesus says, but I tell you,
01:25:55.220 unless your righteousness exceeds that of the Pharisees. And a lot of Protestants will interpret 0.62
01:25:59.980 that and say, oh, well, he's, you know, Jesus is speaking of positional, not progressive righteousness,
01:26:05.340 right, with good works and sanctification, but positional righteousness, declarative righteousness,
01:26:09.540 belonging to justification, which is through faith alone. A lot of Protestants will preach
01:26:13.120 that text, and they'll say, when Jesus says, I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that
01:26:17.020 of the Pharisees, you will not see the kingdom of heaven, a lot of Protestants will say, oh,
01:26:21.460 well, Jesus is talking about positional righteousness, justification, and for every
01:26:25.420 Christian, every genuinely born-again Christian, your righteousness does exceed that of the
01:26:29.800 Pharisees, because you have the perfect righteousness of Christ, which has been
01:26:33.140 accredited to you through faith. Yeah, that is true. But Sproul, God bless him. He was one of
01:26:40.780 the Protestant pastors who said, that's true, that concept, that principle is true, and we can preach
01:26:45.000 it elsewhere from other texts of Scripture, but I don't believe that that's what Jesus had
01:26:48.280 in mind in that particular text. He says, no, I think the point that Jesus is making is that the
01:26:54.620 Pharisees, even in terms of their progressive righteousness, their actions, their works,
01:26:58.700 they're not that righteous. The favorite label that Jesus gave to these Jewish rabbis is not 1.00
01:27:06.360 legalist, right? Protestants always, the problem with the Pharisees were they were legalists. They 0.88
01:27:11.140 cared too much about good works. That's not what Jesus says. He literally says, do as they do,
01:27:16.360 or I'm sorry, do as they say, but do not do as they do. What's the number one word Jesus uses
01:27:21.260 to describe the Pharisees, Sadducees, the lawyers, the scribes. It's not legalist. The word he uses
01:27:27.780 is hypocrite. In other words, according to Jesus, exceeding the righteousness of the Pharisees was
01:27:33.760 not just a matter of having the perfect righteousness of Christ and justification.
01:27:37.160 It was actually being a better person and doing better works than the Pharisees, which was not
01:27:41.200 actually a high bar because the Pharisees were full of it. The Pharisees weren't actually
01:27:45.640 righteous. They were hypocrites. They talked a big game, but they could talk the talk, but they 1.00
01:27:50.040 didn't walk the walk. And I think Sproul is right, that when Jesus says, your righteousness
01:27:54.800 needs to exceed even the righteousness of the Pharisees, I don't believe, as Sproul did not
01:27:59.920 believe, that he's speaking, that Christ is speaking of the positional righteousness belonging
01:28:04.500 to justification in that instance. But he's saying, no, it should be normative for the Christian life
01:28:09.260 that his progressive, ongoing righteous works exceed that of the Pharisees, not because that's
01:28:14.660 what saves him, but as a proof, as a demonstration and evidence of the faith that does save. And the
01:28:21.160 faith that truly saves will manifest itself in good works. And those good works will actually
01:28:27.740 be superior good works to the Pharisees because the Pharisees, they taught good works, but they
01:28:32.980 did not do them. They were hypocrites. So we have ample examples, whether it's the book of James, 0.99
01:28:38.220 ample examples to stress the vital importance of good works without making good works necessary
01:28:44.600 for justification. So great question. I'm glad we had time to get to it. Again, make sure to
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01:29:34.700 shields um he's been kind to me we've had a couple conversations on the phone we might collaborate
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01:30:18.340 a venn diagram you know uh this this overlap this this sweet spot it's in this case um it's a sliver
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