The NXR Podcast - October 01, 2025


THE LIVESTREAM - Israel Buys Tik Tok | Social Media Crackdown

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Is Israel trying to take control of TikTok? TikTok is a social media platform run by people who are pro-Israel, and some of them are Jewish. What does this mean for the future of the platform?

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00:00:30 oy vey israel now has control over tiktok now it's not the government of israel in a formal
00:00:45 direct sense but it is many u.s companies making up about 80 percent of the ownership of tiktok
00:00:52 the social media platform and many of those companies especially the major shareholders
00:00:57 being run by guys who are explicitly Zionist, people who are very pro-Israel, and some of them
00:01:05 being Jewish in terms of their ethnicity. And the big concern previously that many people stated
00:01:10 was, in regards to TikTok, having a major power grab from China. Same kind of concept. It's not
00:01:19 that China, that the Chinese government formally and directly owned the platform of TikTok, but
00:01:24 it was a major Chinese company that comprised about 80% or the vast majority of ownership of
00:01:33 TikTok. And so the concern was, well, there's going to be Chinese interest, right? There's
00:01:39 going to be the government of China, even though they don't own the platform directly by a Chinese
00:01:44 company based in China owning TikTok, there's going to be this overlap. There's going to be
00:01:51 a conflict of interest. The Chinese government is going to put pressure on this Chinese business
00:01:56 to monitor and suppress certain forms of speech or boost the algo in a certain direction that
00:02:03 benefits China and their propaganda, the things that suit them, the things that favor them at
00:02:08 the cost of other countries like America. Well, it's the same principle now applied in a different
00:02:14 direction. It's American companies now that are the shareholders owning 80% of TikTok,
00:02:19 but with those companies, Oracle being one of them, one of the major companies, they are Zionist 0.78
00:02:26 and have been explicitly clear about this. And this isn't just speculation, right? So this is
00:02:31 not just your typical, you know, low IQ anti-Semitism. We're going to bring some of the
00:02:37 receipts and show you how TikTok just in the last few days is already suppressing some forms of
00:02:43 speech that previously were allowed and what forms of speech is it suppressing well you guessed it
00:02:49 the forms of speech that Israel doesn't like Netanyahu the prime minister of Israel has already
00:02:54 come out and is beginning to try to manipulate and influence and even pay off certain social
00:03:01 media influencers with a predominant presence on TikTok that are on the right to be pro-Israel
00:03:08 and to push pro-Israel rhetoric. Israel owns TikTok. That is a perfectly, it's a general
00:03:15 statement, but it is generally true. Israel, for all intents and purposes, now owns TikTok. 0.84
00:03:22 And here's the deal. They will not be content with merely owning TikTok. They're going to come 0.82
00:03:29 for everything. They're going to come for X. They're going to come for your favorite platform. 0.82
00:03:35 And when that happens, right now, criticism towards Israel, especially for pretty much everybody in our country, in America under the age of 45, on the left or the right, criticism towards Israel among young people, even on the right, is at an all-time high.
00:03:52 Israel knows this. Netanyahu knows this. Israeli intelligence and government, they know this, and they are making a major push to stop it.
00:04:00 They know that they're in trouble. They know that the pro-Israel, Israel-first gravy train in these
00:04:05 United States is coming to a screeching halt. It's coming to a screeching halt. They have 0.61
00:04:10 maybe 10, maybe 15 years left. The boomers are not going to be here forever. The relations that 1.00
00:04:17 the United States has had with Israel and a favorable view of Israel is coming to an end.
00:04:23 They know that they need to capitalize on the younger generation. They know that the left is
00:04:29 pretty much a lost cause, but maybe they could capitalize on young people on the right. So
00:04:34 they're paying influencers. They're buying social media platforms. This is the play. And they're
00:04:39 not going to be content with TikTok alone. They're going to push further. They're going to try to
00:04:43 take it all. That's the episode. We'll bring receipts. We'll show you what's happening and
00:04:48 some of our predictions for what's to come. Let's tune in.
00:05:00 A big theme for this year has been fifth generation warfare. 0.99
00:05:03 We think of first and second generation.
00:05:04 That's sticks and stones, right?
00:05:06 You go out, whoever's stronger, you just pulverize the opponent.
00:05:09 But we've reached the point where actually the real battle,
00:05:11 it isn't really even fought kinetically.
00:05:12 It's not even being fought entirely with drones and tanks and robots.
00:05:17 But it's a battle for information.
00:05:19 This is why Palantir and J.D. Vance and Peter Thiel, it's a big deal.
00:05:23 If you control information that people can see,
00:05:25 my goodness, you control entire narratives.
00:05:28 If people are just simply not allowed to say certain things, I mean, then you've effectively
00:05:32 made it so that certain conversations, ideas, thoughts, history can't even be discussed.
00:05:38 Think of the Chinese Communist Party. 0.88
00:05:40 They've censored the entire history of the Tiananmen Square when they murdered their 0.97
00:05:44 own citizens.
00:05:45 They've simply said, we don't want you to see that.
00:05:47 And so we've effectively, through our firewall, has meant that 1.3 billion people have no
00:05:51 access to this history.
00:05:53 Access to information is important.
00:05:55 And we're living in an information age.
00:05:57 And TikTok, like it or love it, and I hate it, I don't use it.
00:06:01 I think a lot of us would agree it's brain rot.
00:06:03 There's a huge generation, 10 years old to probably about 30,
00:06:07 they use this thing every day.
00:06:09 So you can love it or hate it, but the fact is,
00:06:12 maybe it's not your kids, maybe it's not even your church,
00:06:15 there's a lot of people that are on it.
00:06:17 And so your ability, if you could direct TikTok,
00:06:19 hey, this can be shown, this can be shown,
00:06:22 we'll allow, for example, this perverse thing,
00:06:24 We'll allow this material, but not this.
00:06:27 My goodness, you can shape an entire generation,
00:06:29 billions and billions of young people.
00:06:31 Kings could only dream of the power
00:06:33 to influence what 500 million young men are watching.
00:06:37 Think about that.
00:06:38 Back in the day, nobody had that level of control.
00:06:41 But with globalism, for one,
00:06:43 so a kind of universally accessible framework and internet,
00:06:46 and with corporations that are huge and massive in scale,
00:06:50 you can control an entire generation,
00:06:52 showing them this, not that.
00:06:54 And so that's why this matters.
00:06:56 Back in April 2024,
00:06:58 relating to these privacy concerns,
00:07:00 relating to the control
00:07:01 of foreign government could have,
00:07:02 Congress, the U.S. Congress,
00:07:04 passed a bill that said,
00:07:05 TikTok, unless they are sold
00:07:07 to a domestically owned
00:07:08 United States ownership,
00:07:10 they're going to have to shut down.
00:07:12 You can't take this data.
00:07:13 You can't be stationed 0.98
00:07:14 in a foreign country,
00:07:15 be collecting all this information.
00:07:17 I mean, your phone for certain iPhones,
00:07:20 they can track eye movement.
00:07:21 So it's not just, oh, I watched this for 1.2 seconds.
00:07:24 Where did their eyes go?
00:07:25 What colors were they looking at?
00:07:27 And so Congress came out, maybe one of the best things they've done in a year.
00:07:30 They haven't done a lot.
00:07:31 And they said, look, this has to be sold and be onshore.
00:07:34 This has to be in the United States.
00:07:35 You can't keep collecting this data.
00:07:37 This is a big deal, if you remember, towards the end of last year.
00:07:40 Is TikTok going to shut down?
00:07:41 You had a million Zoomers cried out in agony when there looked like, I think it was about 30 minutes.
00:07:45 It went offline.
00:07:46 And that was because our Congress, who we elected and the president signed it, said,
00:07:50 hey tiktok has to go this is being this is nefarious they're gathering data that they
00:07:55 shouldn't have well trump came out and they they formed a deal to basically extend the deadline
00:08:00 so even when congress does something good if it's too good they say well we didn't actually mean it
00:08:05 we're not actually going to shut it down right so to facilitate tiktok staying open the owning
00:08:10 company it's called bite dance and it's uh headquartered in china again not the chinese
00:08:14 government as you were saying but a chinese company that chinese company will be susceptible
00:08:19 to Chinese governmental pressure. 0.99
00:08:22 Yep, exactly.
00:08:23 So they've said and they've worked through
00:08:24 and Trump's actually brokered this deal
00:08:26 to sell it to a number of different firms
00:08:28 in the United States.
00:08:29 And so when you have something
00:08:30 that's worth in the billions and billions,
00:08:31 hundreds of billions of dollars,
00:08:33 that's not just going to be one investor
00:08:34 coming in and buying it.
00:08:35 It's not even going to be a government buying it,
00:08:37 but it's going to be a package deal
00:08:38 where some will manage handling,
00:08:39 some will manage, for example, moderation,
00:08:42 some will handle finances.
00:08:43 This is a huge sale of literally
00:08:45 one of the most popular social media platforms.
00:08:48 And where it comes in that we're saying Israel specifically has an interest in it.
00:08:52 Again, we're not talking about the Israeli government.
00:08:54 Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, he's not taking an ownership stake in TikTok.
00:08:59 But this has been something that we've got at a lot this year. 0.92
00:09:01 When you have people in a nation that you could call them hyphenated Americans, right?
00:09:05 So they have one allegiance, American. 0.55
00:09:09 We've got paperwork Americans. 0.54
00:09:10 We've got paperwork Americans.
00:09:11 We've got Tylenol Americans.
00:09:13 We've got all kinds of Americans. 0.99
00:09:15 It's like Somali American, right?
00:09:16 Ilhan Omar.
00:09:17 Well, you literally see her saying, well, I have duties to America, sure.
00:09:20 I'm literally representative.
00:09:22 But also, I kind of really like Somalia. 0.99
00:09:24 The reality is there should be no hyphenated American. 0.84
00:09:26 You're American or you're not.
00:09:27 So I would say that Somalia, you know, so it's not to say all the Somalians, you know, 0.96
00:09:32 let's just start calling them Americans instead of Somalian Americans.
00:09:34 I think they should be called Somalians.
00:09:36 I also think they should live in Somalia.
00:09:37 That was Teddy Roosevelt's point back at the early 1900s. 0.98
00:09:40 He's like, there is no such thing as a hyphenated American.
00:09:43 Do not come here.
00:09:43 I'm a French American. 0.98
00:09:44 I'm Japanese American.
00:09:46 I'm this American.
00:09:47 He's like, no, you leave all that behind.
00:09:48 It's Ruth back in the Old Testament.
00:09:50 Exactly.
00:09:50 We use this example all the time.
00:09:51 Your God, your nation.
00:09:52 So she doesn't say, hey, I'm going to set up little Chinatown,
00:09:55 little Moab town in the middle of Jerusalem.
00:09:58 No, when she makes the switch, 0.76
00:10:01 when she decides to follow her mother-in-law, Naomi,
00:10:03 and go back to Israel because now the famine has lifted,
00:10:05 there's grain in Israel, and her husband, Naomi's son, is now dead,
00:10:10 and her sister-in-law, her husband, Naomi's other son, is dead,
00:10:14 and Naomi's husband is dead.
00:10:16 She makes the decision, I'm not going to stay in Moab. 0.97
00:10:19 I'm going to go with my brother-in-law, Naomi, back to Israel, 0.97
00:10:22 and your people shall be my people, your God shall be my God. 0.96
00:10:25 She's not putting one foot, straddling the line, one foot in both camps. 0.65
00:10:29 She doesn't go back to Israel to be a Moab Israelite. 0.82
00:10:34 She goes to be an Israelite. 0.97
00:10:35 So there's a forsaking of her foreign gods from Moab. 1.00
00:10:39 There's a forsaking of her Moabite people, 1.00
00:10:41 and she's going to be fully bought into Israel. 1.00
00:10:44 Yep. And so when it comes to Jewish Americans, these are individuals that by descent, they would be racially, ethnically Jewish, a pattern that's emerged. And I mean, even a California professor, Kevin McDonald's written a huge book on this. He's a professor, University of California, evolutionary biologist. And he says, yeah, there's a certain in-group kind of preference that they have for one another. It's not anti-Semitic. It's not a conspiracy theory. Different people that originate from the same point before they move, they share a type of cohesion that they don't share with other people. 0.62
00:11:14 German-Americans.
00:11:15 German-Americans coming from Germany, moved to America.
00:11:18 A lot of them moved to the Midwest.
00:11:19 There's huge Dutch communities in Grand Rapids, Michigan.
00:11:22 Why?
00:11:23 Because a lot of Dutch people that left the Netherlands, moved to America, and then wanted 0.99
00:11:27 to be around, start stores for, go to church with other Dutch-Americans, for lack of a
00:11:32 They wanted to be with people who were going to have the same kind of religion.
00:11:35 They wanted to be with people who would speak the same language, the same foods, the same
00:11:38 customs, those kinds.
00:11:39 So that's natural.
00:11:40 Our job is to not let them come in.
00:11:43 Exactly.
00:11:44 So the point is, I don't blame them for doing that, for lack of a better word, our leaders
00:11:47 for opening the door.
00:11:48 Yeah, our immigration policy set this up.
00:11:51 So you have millions of, for lack of a better term, Jewish Americans, they live here, they're
00:11:56 citizens here, whatever that would mean on paper, but they very much so have a strong
00:12:01 allegiance to another country.
00:12:02 They care for its prime minister, they care for its wars, they donate money, and where
00:12:08 it really becomes a problem is when these people are worth billions of dollars.
00:12:11 It's one thing if I have an affinity for Germany
00:12:14 because I have ancestry there
00:12:15 or someone has an affinity for a certain tribe in Africa.
00:12:18 We talked about Vodibachum.
00:12:19 He goes back to Zambia.
00:12:21 That's one thing. 1.00
00:12:21 God bless him.
00:12:22 But when you're, for example, Larry Ellison,
00:12:24 chief technical officer of Oracle,
00:12:26 which is going to be the anchor of this deal, 0.62
00:12:28 and you are an avowed Zionist,
00:12:30 and you have, it was 2021,
00:12:32 he was reported to have even offered
00:12:34 now Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu
00:12:37 a seat on the board at Oracle.
00:12:39 You love Israel.
00:12:42 So you're American in one sense.
00:12:43 You're a CTO, chief technical officer of an American company.
00:12:47 But your whole life, it's like, all right, I got some extra money.
00:12:50 Israel, donate.
00:12:51 Here, this, that, or the other.
00:12:52 All of a sudden, it goes, well, you're about to own the biggest social media company that's existed in the last five years.
00:12:59 You'll see here on the screen, Ellison's close ties to Trump and Netanyahu.
00:13:03 Again, this is just an objective reporting of the facts.
00:13:05 I'm going to read it for anyone that's listening.
00:13:06 Larry Ellison, again, CTO at Oracle,
00:13:08 Oracle is going to be the anchor in this TikTok deal,
00:13:11 has had a decade-long history with the Republican Party
00:13:13 and a close relationship with Trump
00:13:14 going back to the president's first term.
00:13:16 Ellison has frequented Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort for dinner,
00:13:19 met him in the Oval Office,
00:13:20 as Trump has repeatedly postponed
00:13:22 complying with the Supreme Court's January ruling.
00:13:24 Supreme Court came in January this year.
00:13:27 They said, no, you have to ban TikTok.
00:13:28 Congress passed this.
00:13:29 As Trump has repeatedly postponed
00:13:31 complying with the ruling,
00:13:32 if it's not sold,
00:13:33 Oracle has emerged as a lead buyer
00:13:35 of the popular social media app.
00:13:37 In the case of Larry Ellison,
00:13:39 it's well beyond technology,
00:13:40 sort of CEO of everything Trump said
00:13:41 during a news conference
00:13:42 a day after he was inaugurated.
00:13:44 He's an amazing man,
00:13:45 an amazing business person.
00:13:46 Ellison is also close
00:13:47 to the Israeli prime minister,
00:13:49 Benjamin Netanyahu,
00:13:50 and has donated heavily
00:13:51 to the Israeli military
00:13:52 through the nonprofit
00:13:53 Friends of the Israel Defense Force.
00:13:55 In 2017, he gave the organization
00:13:57 his biggest ever donation at the time,
00:13:59 $16.6 million.
00:14:02 Oracle did not respond to questions
00:14:03 from The Guardian,
00:14:04 asking if Ellison had donated more recently.
00:14:08 The guy loves him some Israel.
00:14:10 He's from there.
00:14:11 That is his affinity.
00:14:14 Here's some of the other buyers.
00:14:15 Silver Lake, Private Equity, MGX.
00:14:17 So this is an Abu Dhabi-based AI investment group.
00:14:21 Andreessen Horowitz, A16Z.
00:14:24 So this was co-founded with Mark Andreessen.
00:14:25 And I forget his first name, but another Jewish individual.
00:14:28 I think maybe Alexander Horowitz.
00:14:30 So that's another private equity group that's in there.
00:14:32 Some of the other purchasers, Michael Dell, he's the founder of Dell, Jewish CEO, the Rupert and Lakin Murdoch.
00:14:40 So those have also been backed by Trump as potential buyers.
00:14:43 In short, you have a lot of people with an affinity for Israel.
00:14:45 So you're talking about media, which Jews have been overrepresented in. 0.62
00:14:49 And now we're talking about the most popular social media, right? 0.66
00:14:51 Legacy news is dying.
00:14:53 Your CBS, your Fox News, your CNN.
00:14:55 At a certain level, they just don't have the reach they did.
00:14:58 What does have the reach is TikTok.
00:15:00 And now as it's moving to the U.S., it's kind of like, oh, so it's coming to the U.S., so it'll be owned by Americans, right?
00:15:06 It'll be owned by Americans, right?
00:15:08 No, it's going to be owned by people that very much so have a vested interest. 0.88
00:15:12 Jews and Jews adjacent. 0.79
00:15:13 Who are making sure certain content isn't there.
00:15:15 Let's listen to Benjamin Netanyahu, Prime Minister of Israel.
00:15:18 Let's listen to his comments as he realizes they're actually losing the social media war.
00:15:22 Yep. 0.90
00:15:24 Christian influencers.
00:15:26 You said, you talked about the woke right. 0.73
00:15:30 And he said, I call it the woke Reich.
00:15:33 That's a brilliant, the woke Reich.
00:15:37 Because these people, you know, they're not any different from the woke left. 0.87
00:15:41 I mean, they're insane, they're the reason.
00:15:44 But they're actually meeting on some of the things.
00:15:47 And what we have to do is we have to secure that part of the base of our support in the United States.
00:15:53 That is being challenged systematically.
00:15:56 A lot of this is done with money.
00:15:58 money of NGOs vast money of governments vaster okay we have to fight back how do we fight back
00:16:08 our influencers I think you should also talk to them if you have a chance to that that community
00:16:14 they're very important and secondly we're going to have to use the tools of battle you know the
00:16:21 weapons change over time you can't fight today with swords that doesn't work very well okay
00:16:26 And you can't fight with cavalry. That doesn't work very well.
00:16:30 And you have these new things, you know, like drones, things like that.
00:16:34 I won't get into that. But we have to fight with the weapons that
00:16:38 apply to the battlefields in which we're engaged. And the most important ones
00:16:42 are the social media. And the most important purchase that is going on
00:16:46 right now is class...
00:16:50 TikTok. TikTok.
00:16:54 Number one. Number one. And I hope it goes through because it's, it can be consequential. And the other one, what's the other one that's most important? X. X. Very good. And, you know, so we have to talk to Elon. He's not an enemy. He's a friend. We should talk to him. Now, if we can get those two things, we get a lot. And I could go on on other things, but that's not the point right now.
00:17:19 We have to fight the fight, okay, to give direction to the Jewish people 0.95
00:17:25 and give direction to our non-Jewish friends or those who could be our Jewish friends. 0.79
00:17:31 Are we going to succeed with everyone? No. 0.90
00:17:33 Will there be a strong counterpart? Yes.
00:17:37 There you have it.
00:17:38 So going after TikTok, number two, X.
00:17:41 Elon is a friend. Don't like that.
00:17:44 We'll see. Pray for Elon.
00:17:46 pray that he resists the temptation to be a zionist shield uh i i can't help there's two 0.69
00:17:52 things i want to pick out of that video one uh he said you know the the weapons of warfare change
00:17:56 and that's what we were talking about fifth generation warfare the battle for information
00:17:59 uh propaganda right it's it's messaging uh and so he said you know the cavalry doesn't work
00:18:05 swords don't work uh drones don't work i'd be remiss if i did not uh mention at this juncture
00:18:11 that drones seem to be working just fine when it comes to Gaza.
00:18:16 So Israel is perfectly fine with cavalry, with tanks, with drones, with missiles.
00:18:21 But what they're saying is, well, we can't bomb America, at least not, you know. 0.59
00:18:27 Until their ships come into our bay, we can't.
00:18:29 At least not in an obvious way.
00:18:31 Maybe we could do it in a subversive way.
00:18:33 But, you know, so they're saying when it comes to the West,
00:18:36 when it comes to European nations and predominantly America,
00:18:39 because we're the most powerful out of the West,
00:18:42 we have to fight fire with fire.
00:18:45 So in this case, the weapons of warfare being information,
00:18:49 being social media platforms.
00:18:50 So going for TikTok, they've achieved that.
00:18:52 And then going after X.
00:18:53 If you think that X is invulnerable,
00:18:57 then you are being naive.
00:19:00 X could absolutely fall like this 0.78
00:19:02 into the hands of being pro-Israel,
00:19:05 shilling for Israel at every single turn. 0.78
00:19:08 So that's the first thing that I wanted to mention. The second is all the way back to the beginning of that clip that we just showed with Netanyahu, where he talks about the woke right. And he doesn't name this individual, but he says, you know, I've had, you know, people tell me, you know, the woke right or the woke Reich. And he laughs and like, I think that's perfect. That's a great name.
00:19:28 um i'll be honest i first saw that phrase woke right and woke right uh reich uh i both saw them
00:19:36 you know coined um in the first instance by james lindsey um and i i don't know about you but um
00:19:44 you know james lindsey has had some contributions in the past i think of you know 2019 2020 2021
00:19:50 but it's been about three straight years of posting cold like i mean everybody has some
00:19:56 cringe i have some like we all post cringe from time to time uh but there's a there's a certain
00:20:01 cringe quota that's permissible right that's allowable um but i'm i'm talking three years
00:20:07 of 100 cringe 100 coal and uh and yet still somehow has support from somewhere yeah right
00:20:15 still in the game still putting out material um still being listened to by someone and um
00:20:22 and i think we're starting to get our answers right everybody did this big thing about qatari
00:20:27 money qatari money have you seen any qatari money i've been looking for it i've been looking for it
00:20:31 i keep waiting you know with bated breath for the check to come in the mail it's never come
00:20:35 um but i think uh if we want to really be honest i think we need to point the guns in the other
00:20:41 direction so to speak and say uh who's getting zionist money who is getting and and we've seen
00:20:47 this it was just posted yesterday um receipts that netanyahu and israel's government is paying
00:20:53 seven i think it was like a 68 to uh 6800 to 7200 dollars per post to post positive things for
00:21:01 israel from certain you know influencers on the right which to be honest i'd do it because nobody
00:21:08 would believe me i would post it and they would be like wait a second you would not do it i would
00:21:11 not allow it uh he wouldn't do it ladies and gentlemen i will split it with joke 50 50 can't
00:21:16 do it uh can't do it um so this this is what's going on you need to be aware of it here's um
00:21:21 we need to get into tactics just briefly so um one there's you know paying uh to purchase a
00:21:28 platform two there's paying individual influencers to post things that are positive towards israel
00:21:32 to influence young people on the right three um a more subtle approach that uh certain individuals
00:21:38 in israel use on a regular basis it has become a tradition of sorts these past few years
00:21:46 is all right i'm not going to directly pay you to post something positive about israel and no i
00:21:51 don't you know have enough money to purchase you know tiktok or some major social media platform
00:21:55 but what i will do is me and my 501c3 organization we will fit the bill for a fully sponsored trip
00:22:03 to israel and you'll come to israel and we're not going to make you kiss the wall you know some guys
00:22:08 will just do that for free um but you know but we're not going to make you kiss the wall we're
00:22:11 not going to make you're running for office you do but if you're a christian minister yeah you're
00:22:15 a christian minister so we're not going to make you you know uh kiss the ball we're not going to
00:22:19 make you wear the tiny hat greg lock he'll do it for free you know but uh but we're not going to
00:22:23 make everybody else do that we just want you to come and think about this this is the pitch right
00:22:28 it's it's somewhat of a compelling pitch it's it's subtle it's it's not overt and there's some
00:22:32 incentive we're going to pay all expenses paid trip for you know a week or two weeks to israel
00:22:36 and you get to see the the holy sites you get to walk the streets that jesus walked right don't
00:22:42 you want to see where, right? You're a Christian. Don't you want to see where Jesus ministered and
00:22:45 where, you know, where he was baptized and where, you know, where he preached the Sermon on the
00:22:51 Mount and these kinds of things. And so a lot of guys will do that trip. And I'm not saying,
00:22:56 I want to be clear here, I'm not saying that it is inherently sinful to do that trip. But what
00:23:00 I've noticed is it seems as though there's a pipeline. So first you get approached to do this
00:23:07 trip all expenses paid uh second you do the trip and you come back and some of these guys come back
00:23:14 and will almost immediately start saying positive things about israel that are categorically false 0.72
00:23:19 right categorically false like israel being you know the front lines um against lgbt barbarism 0.71
00:23:26 that was a quote or islam you know or yeah or yeah even with islam it's like well uh they're
00:23:32 fighting islam um in in the middle east they are they are absolutely fighting islam in the middle
00:23:37 east man woman and child they are fighting them that's right uh whether all the way down to 0.81
00:23:41 starving you know islamic children at every level they are absolutely fighting and that's not fifth 0.86
00:23:46 generation warfare that's that i mean that's your good old-fashioned calvary and drones so they are 0.90
00:23:50 fighting islam in the middle east to keep islam out of israel but one of the ways they fight it
00:23:55 is they decimate Islamic countries and then open the doors in Western countries for immigration 0.99
00:24:03 and refugees. They hold open the door. So, like, I admit that the average Jewish person here in 0.99
00:24:10 America is not necessarily, you know, a violent person who's, you know, who's doing physical
00:24:17 blatant harm. And I do think that when it comes to individual people, I do think that in many ways
00:24:23 Muslims in America, there's, there's just way too many Muslims. That is a problem. They're 1.00
00:24:30 setting up 90 foot tall, you know, statues to demon gods right outside of Houston in our state
00:24:34 of Texas. Muslims are a problem. But when you look at how are Muslims getting in and you look at 1.00
00:24:40 the NGOs, right, non-government organizations, and you look at the politicians, American politicians 0.86
00:24:45 I'm talking about now, the ones who are opening the doors with, you know, to allow this, this 0.71
00:24:52 influx this invasion of muslims into the united states many of them have jewish ties they're 0.98
00:24:58 either ethnically jewish or religiously jewish or they're married their spouse is jewish or 0.99
00:25:04 they're a zionist and have ties with netanyahu the biggest groups is the hebrew immigrant aid
00:25:08 society they started in the late 1800s first for jews to resettle but now it's literally everyone
00:25:13 and it is one of the biggest groups for immigration right facilitating it paperwork sponsorship help
00:25:18 like we just got to be honest right these have been one of the biggest groups to resettle people
00:25:22 here in america so when guys you know make make claims and statements like you know uh jews in
00:25:27 america are not the problem it's muslims okay uh but you have to understand how the two groups work
00:25:32 in tandem um muslims flood in uh but jews in a general sense not each and every single one of
00:25:40 them but in this is a general statement and it is generally true um it is jewish people or those 0.55
00:25:46 with Jewish ties who hold the door open for the Muslims to come in. And so back to this pipeline 0.68
00:25:53 real quick. So it's, hey, we'll give you $7,000 to post something positive about Israel. All right.
00:25:57 Oh, that's too overt. Okay. You need something a little bit more subtle. Well, nevermind. Don't
00:26:01 do that. Hey, I would just like to invite you as a Christian, as a Christian influencer, as a
00:26:06 Christian, you know, minister to do a trip to Israel, just to see the Holy land and where Jesus,
00:26:11 you know where jesus walked um and it's all expenses paid it's a it's a sponsored trip some
00:26:17 guys go on that trip again i'm not saying it's inherently sinful to to go on that trip uh some
00:26:21 of them go on that trip and they go back and they're the same person and they're authentic
00:26:25 right uh other guys go on that trip and they come back and they immediately start saying uh wild
00:26:31 ridiculous things that are untrue like saying that you know that that uh israel is the front 0.56
00:26:36 lines against LGBT barbarism when Tel Aviv is one of the gay capitals of the world, right? You can't 1.00
00:26:42 walk down a single street without being bombarded by the Rainbow Mafia, flags and paraphernalia 1.00
00:26:50 everywhere. So some guys are going on this trip, and although it's not overtly said, hey, we'll pay 1.00
00:26:55 for this trip, but you have to post positive things on social media about Israel, some of the
00:26:59 guys do. They come back and they do that. Not all of them, some of them. Next step in the pipeline
00:27:04 is if you go on that trip and you, you know, network and make connections and you come back
00:27:11 and even if you don't say things, start posting things positive about Israel, especially things
00:27:15 that are blatantly false, but you at least just don't post negative things. You just kind of leave
00:27:20 Israel alone, right? You're posting against Muslims, right? You're posting against the 1.00
00:27:24 globalists, right? Whoever they are. We know who they're, you know, but we're posting against the
00:27:28 globalists, the Marxists, you know, maybe even the Bolsheviks, but we never say who the Bolsheviks 0.98
00:27:32 are either, and we certainly are posting against the Muslims. You do that, and you don't say 0.79
00:27:38 anything explicitly positive about Israel, but you also don't say anything explicitly negative.
00:27:43 Next step in the pipeline, all of a sudden you're invited to NatCon. And in NatCon, that's where
00:27:49 we're hearing some of these lines. This is a statement that is not just a throwaway. It's not
00:27:53 just a one-off. Many, more than one, many Christian ministers and non-Christian ministers have all
00:27:59 made this statement at NatCon recently, just a couple months ago at their latest conference,
00:28:03 NatCon 2025. NatCon stands for National Conservative. It's headed up by Yoram Harzoni.
00:28:08 One of the statements is that America must be a Christian nation again. We need Christian
00:28:13 nationalism. Who would be invited into this project of a Christian nation here in America? 1.00
00:28:20 And there are three groups that are explicitly listed, and it's said ad nauseum multiple times. 0.95
00:28:24 it's protestants catholics jews protestants catholics jews hindus no muslims no atheists
00:28:32 no protestants catholics jews and my problem is not with the rejection of hindus and muslims
00:28:40 or atheists for that matter my problem is the inclusion of jews and reformed ministers who i
00:28:46 believe should know better and this is one of the problems with the reformed tradition i i love the
00:28:50 reformed tradition. I am reformed in my theology. But one of the problems is that because John
00:28:56 Calvin and Martin Luther and Zwingli and these guys, one of the biggest battles at their time
00:29:01 and their place, right? We don't do theology in a vacuum, right? It's all a matter of providence,
00:29:08 time and place, and where God has set us. Well, at their time, the behemoth was Rome. It was Roman
00:29:15 Catholicism. So a lot of what Luther is railing against, now Luther does write a book called The
00:29:20 Jews and their lies at the end of his life. But early on, and what he's mostly remembered for,
00:29:24 is battling not against the Jews, but rather against Roman Catholicism. Same certainly with 0.55
00:29:29 Calvin and other reformers. Well, at that time, Rome, I believe, was a much bigger problem than
00:29:37 it poses today. Back then, they're selling indulgences, they're oppressing people. Today,
00:29:42 you know, you have the Pope blessing, you know, blocks of ice. Not great. Is it cringe? You bet
00:29:47 you, right? Like a Catholic Pope does something cringe, must be another day that ends in wine,
00:29:52 right? It's, you know, people be like, well, you got Paula White. Well, the beautiful thing about
00:29:55 Protestantism is that I have no formal ties to Paula White whatsoever. She has no ecclesiastical
00:30:01 authority in the Protestant church whatsoever. But if you're Catholic, then, I mean, you just,
00:30:08 you got to sit there and take, I mean, there's some wonderful things. There's some terrible 1.00
00:30:12 things. And one of the terrible things is it pretty much every single day you have to rack
00:30:16 cupels every single day you have to yep my pope blessed a block of ice yep this happened yep my
00:30:23 pope said if you're against abortion but for the death penalty you're not pro-life right you have
00:30:28 to say that's your pope and you are bound to him you have to say that is the vicar of christ on
00:30:33 earth the vicar of christ on earth is is posting coal and uh and i'm a based you know young catholic
00:30:40 who just converted you know three weeks ago and so obviously um i'm you know an expert in all
00:30:46 things Catholicism. Well, that's great, but you also have to sit there and say, yep, and the
00:30:51 Vicar of Christ is blessing blocks of ice at a climate change conference. So anyways, the point
00:30:57 is Catholicism, Roman Catholicism was a major problem in the 1500s, in the 1600s. I do not 0.64
00:31:07 view Roman Catholics, and this is where reform guys get mad at me. I do not view Roman Catholics 1.00
00:31:11 as a cultural and political enemy today.
00:31:14 I don't. 0.97
00:31:15 I believe they are co-belligerents. 1.00
00:31:17 So I would agree with the statement 1.00
00:31:18 that's made at NatCon and elsewhere, right?
00:31:21 There's three main groups
00:31:22 that are part of this Christian nationalism project.
00:31:25 It's Protestants, Catholics, and Jews.
00:31:27 I would agree with the inclusion of Catholics. 1.00
00:31:29 I don't think that we're going to win 1.00
00:31:31 in the United States
00:31:32 as we push back against the orcs. 1.00
00:31:35 If Protestants, if Reformed guys are being autistic 0.94
00:31:38 and saying that Catholics cannot... 0.99
00:31:41 I understand the theological issues, right? 0.99
00:31:44 I share those issues.
00:31:45 They matter.
00:31:46 But I'm talking about in the realm of the political and cultural, okay?
00:31:50 In the political and cultural realm,
00:31:52 I believe that Roman Catholics and Protestants must unite
00:31:55 if we're going to win.
00:31:56 I don't think we have enough numbers in isolation.
00:32:00 But between us, I think there's significant influence
00:32:02 and a significant force for good.
00:32:04 And that's the view of some of the Puritans, Baxter.
00:32:06 Herman Bovink wrote that as well, that the Roman Catholic Church, even as a Protestant,
00:32:10 he said they have errors, but they are, in the people in and of themselves, a true church.
00:32:16 And on Sunday morning when they gather together...
00:32:17 He wasn't necessarily speaking about the Pope in specific, but Catholics, not Catholicism,
00:32:21 but Catholics, they gather together, and that it's a true church in error.
00:32:27 Yes. And the errors are real, and they matter. 0.95
00:32:29 And they matter.
00:32:30 But you are consistent with a number of Reformed Protestant thinkers that also thought the same thing.
00:32:35 I am. And I honestly, guys, I don't know how to say it other than this. I've said it a few times,
00:32:39 but I'll say it again. I'm not interested in just, it's like just LARPing. It's like the
00:32:44 reenactment of the civil war, you know, at some, you know, annual festival where everyone dresses
00:32:48 up and pretends, you know, the, the South and the North, you know, hashing it out again and
00:32:52 everybody celebrates and then they all eat corn on the cob, you know, and, and some kind of
00:32:56 refreshment or whatever. Like I'm, I'm not interested in having the annual, you know,
00:33:00 Five Solas Conference, you know, every single year. We've been doing it for 500 years.
00:33:07 Like, we're going to battle against a dragon that has already, in many ways, had, you know,
00:33:17 all four of its legs, you know, bound and tied together, and a bucket of ice, maybe the same
00:33:23 ice that the Pope blessed, you know, like poured over its snout, you know, where it's no longer
00:33:27 able to breathe fire. It's not the threat that it once was. And yet we're going to pretend,
00:33:33 you know, it's like we make like a Roman Catholic piñata and all the Protestants stand in line 0.83
00:33:38 once a year at some festival and we hit it together. You know, like I'm just not in, I want 1.00
00:33:42 to fight living, breathing dragons. I want to fight the enemy of the day, not the enemy of
00:33:47 yesterday. And so that doesn't mean that Catholicism and the theological distinctions
00:33:52 between Protestants and Catholics doesn't matter. As a local pastor, I preach about those things as
00:33:57 they come up in the text. We do expositional preaching through books of the Bible. But in
00:34:01 the cultural and political realms, I believe that Catholics are a suitable, logical ally to fight
00:34:08 in those arenas. Jews are not. That was my whole point. My whole point was to say, I don't disagree 1.00
00:34:16 with the discluding of Muslims and Hindus and atheists, and I also don't disagree with some 0.92
00:34:23 of these guys and their inclusion of Catholics. What I disagree with is their inclusion of Jews. 0.60
00:34:30 Muslims are not a part of a Christian nationalist project. They're not. Catholics, I believe, are,
00:34:36 in a cultural and political sense, a part of a Christian nationalist project. Jews, though,
00:34:42 are not. Somehow Jews got lumped in. Think about that. Like Catholics, for all the disagreements
00:34:48 that we have, they believe in the Trinity. They believe that Jesus is the only begotten son of
00:34:53 the Father, born of the virgin birth, that he's sinless. They confess the Apostles' Creed.
00:34:57 They confess the Apostles' Creed, the Nicene Creed. They believe he died a substitutionary death,
00:35:03 that the blood of Christ atones for sin. He was bodily raised on the third day. He ascended in
00:35:07 glory and majesty is seated at the right hand of the father and will one day return to judge both
00:35:12 the living and the dead. Are there errors? Yes. But is there much agreement? Also, yes. Is there
00:35:21 any agreement? So Catholics believe all the things I just said. Jews believe that Jesus is a bastard 0.80
00:35:28 son of a whore and that he's currently burning in hell. And I won't be too graphic about how he's 1.00
00:35:33 burning, but you can look that up for yourself. They, they hate Christ. They absolutely hate
00:35:40 Christ. And so, no, I don't believe that Jews should be a part of this project. So my point is 1.00
00:35:45 sometimes it's overt. You're buying TikTok and then coming for X. And we'll talk about that a
00:35:49 little bit in the second segment. Sometimes it's overt, but more individual. I'm paying this
00:35:54 right-wing influencer $7,000 for a positive post about Israel to turn the tides among young people
00:36:02 on the right wing. And then sometimes it's subtle. It's, don't you want to see the streets where
00:36:06 Jesus walked? We have a sponsored full expense paid trip and you can come and there's no strings
00:36:12 attached. You don't have to say anything positive. You might be a fool and choose to say something
00:36:17 positive in your very next podcast, the moment you return, but you don't have to do that. And 0.99
00:36:21 if you just don't say anything negative, you might get an invitation to speak at a breakout session
00:36:26 at NatCon. And at NatCon, you'll hear one of the lines that is pushed again and again and again.
00:36:32 You know that it's overt.
00:36:33 You know that it's intentional
00:36:34 because multiple people say the exact same scripted thing. 0.59
00:36:38 Hey, Christian nationalism, that's what we need in America.
00:36:41 This project is an exclusive project. 0.80
00:36:43 Many people are not welcome,
00:36:45 but there's three groups that are Protestants, Catholics, 0.92
00:36:47 and oh, the guys who have nothing in agreement
00:36:50 with Protestants and Catholics whatsoever,
00:36:52 somehow they're also included.
00:36:54 We're a tiny group through the early,
00:36:56 it was only through a wave of immigration,
00:36:57 I think late in the 1800s,
00:36:59 that about 3.5 million Jews came.
00:37:00 They were not represented.
00:37:02 There was not states, Maryland, that were Catholic.
00:37:05 There were not Supreme Court justices that we had early on that were Jewish.
00:37:08 But there was a minority of Catholics early on in our heritage.
00:37:11 And a meaningful minority, enough to not just say five or ten.
00:37:14 A meaningful minority.
00:37:15 A meaningful minority.
00:37:17 That's my point. 0.94
00:37:18 Overall, Protestant. 0.95
00:37:19 That's America's history.
00:37:21 But a meaningful minority of Catholics present. 0.64
00:37:23 there was no minority of jews present until you're already a good hundred years removed not not a
00:37:32 hundred years into america right because we forget about you know the 13 colonies and everything you
00:37:36 know before the constitution before 1776 but i'm saying no now you're you're a century removed from 0.52
00:37:42 1776 and a very small group of jews are just now starting to arrive and yet somehow jews are a part
00:37:50 of this restoration, you know, American heritage project, how? And the only answer to that is not 0.52
00:37:57 because it's historically accurate, not because it's theologically accurate, because that's
00:38:02 certainly not the case. The answer is influence and money. They're getting to be included on the
00:38:08 team by many because of power, because they're powerful. And we think that that's wrong and
00:38:16 that that needs to be, you know, you don't have to be a jerk, you don't have to be a bigot, 0.98
00:38:20 but it does need to be said. It needs to be said publicly, and solid Christians who love the Lord 0.97
00:38:24 Jesus Christ and love America and its heritage need to be able to speak out against this.
00:38:30 NatCon, that you need to be willing to say that. NatCon, a lot of great stuff. A lot of great
00:38:34 stuff. We would agree with probably 95% of the things that are said and appreciated, but this
00:38:40 is one line of rhetoric that's being pushed at NatCon. A lot of good stuff, but there's this,
00:38:45 and it matters and it needs to be pointed out.
00:38:48 You must resist.
00:38:49 Yeah.
00:38:49 When it comes to money,
00:38:50 like we have to remember,
00:38:51 so TikTok, NatCon,
00:38:53 like we have whole legal categories
00:38:54 where people under penalty of perjury
00:38:56 have to disclose
00:38:58 if they were given money for certain things.
00:39:00 If you're brokering a sale of a company,
00:39:02 if you're part of a nonprofit,
00:39:04 you have to be very upfront.
00:39:05 I received money from X as an interested party
00:39:08 and I have to disclose it.
00:39:10 Judges have to recuse themselves from cases.
00:39:12 So maybe they were a client in the past
00:39:13 and they have to say,
00:39:14 hey, I can't handle this case because I could be biased.
00:39:17 We have a huge legal framework for people saying things and saying,
00:39:20 and I need to be forthright with you.
00:39:22 I need to be honest.
00:39:23 I was paid this amount.
00:39:24 So these guys that are saying these things, our hope would be,
00:39:27 all right, maybe you truly believe it.
00:39:29 We could get you a lie detector, push you in the corner.
00:39:31 Yeah, you really truly believe that.
00:39:32 But you also need to come out and say, and hey, I got about a $10,000 trip for free.
00:39:37 And hey, I was paid this amount of money to post.
00:39:39 And hey, this is the influence I would get.
00:39:41 Maybe it affected my thinking.
00:39:42 Maybe it didn't.
00:39:43 But I'm just going to be forthright with you and say, I got this money.
00:39:46 Be aware of that.
00:39:47 Yeah, especially with 501c3s.
00:39:50 I think that there should be an obligation, whether it's a church or whether it's a 501c3,
00:39:55 to say, yeah, we received donation in this format.
00:40:00 Whether it's that is a donation.
00:40:02 They're called in-kind gifts, I think.
00:40:03 Yeah, that's a donation, a $10,000 trip.
00:40:05 You need to mark that down and say, yes, I received $10,000 to go to Israel for a week
00:40:11 and a half and these are my positions this is what I'm saying and maybe I'm influenced by it
00:40:17 maybe I'm not but you need to be aware that this is a factor and um and apart from that I think that
00:40:22 uh that there is a problem so all that being said Israel is absolutely they're not going to just oh 0.79
00:40:27 you know what well we lost fair and square no no no no no Israel knows that the entire world
00:40:34 the entire world's population of young people um especially Gen Z, Gen Alpha, some Millennials,
00:40:40 some Gen X, is souring on Israel.
00:40:44 They've had enough. 0.89
00:40:44 They've had enough of foreign influence 0.81
00:40:46 in our domestic governments.
00:40:49 They've had enough of AIPAC.
00:40:50 They've had enough of the ADL
00:40:51 literally labeling Christian identity as a hate group.
00:40:55 Well, the ADL had to remove that glossary of hate
00:40:57 because they've gotten so much pushback
00:40:59 from a younger generation that says, 0.99
00:41:01 this is ridiculous. 1.00
00:41:02 It's okay to be white was a hate slogan. 1.00
00:41:05 Hey, Black Lives Matter, no problem. 1.00
00:41:07 It's okay to be white, bigot. 1.00
00:41:09 Bigot. Yep. So yeah, so Israel is not going to give up without a fight. It's not going to be a 0.99
00:41:16 whimper. It's going to be clawing and gnashing and giving it everything they got. Right now,
00:41:21 Israel in many ways is like a cornered animal, and they're desperate, and they're going to be
00:41:26 doing everything they can. They're going to be spending money. They're going to do everything
00:41:31 they can to gain back the favor of the West, to be able to manipulate the masses, to be able to
00:41:37 to seize the levers of influence that they've had for decades and decades and decades
00:41:43 and have recently, finally, began to let up.
00:41:47 And they're not going to just say, oh, okay, well, I guess our reign is over.
00:41:51 They're going to try to get it back.
00:41:53 And buying TikTok is just one way, and you heard it from Netanyahu himself.
00:41:57 They are coming for X.
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00:46:17 WRITE15 today. All right, we're back. The power of censorship, as we mentioned earlier, is that
00:46:25 you can give the illusion of a consensus. We've talked about one of the ways, honestly, that you
00:46:29 could destroy the new Christian right, whatever you want to call it, is through banking, through 0.91
00:46:33 private institutions for finding jobs like indeed and linkedin social media that would be facebook 0.66
00:46:38 x instagram if you were able to algorithmically identify and then quarantine those people you
00:46:44 could very much so give the perception of a consensus that wherever someone got their news
00:46:48 wherever someone looked for jobs that you would kind of shut out a small proportion of people
00:46:53 and they'd be very very unable to make a difference x changed that this was 2023 when elon bought it
00:46:58 and it's still not a complete free speech platform and there's problems it hosts adult content it
00:47:03 shouldn't there's much about x that we would change but for all practical purposes it has
00:47:07 been a place where most of what um could be said most of what isn't illegal most of what isn't
00:47:13 egregiously perverse uh it flies and it's also not uh artificially suppressed and this has been
00:47:20 a big problem honestly like if you look at the rise there's anti-semitism that's like genuine
00:47:25 hatred but if we just want to use kind of the broad term like it's okay to be white that's
00:47:29 anti-semitic we just want to talk about kind of a sense of like well why are these people doing
00:47:33 this and historically they did this that type of just noticing well a big rise in it has been due
00:47:39 to x because now stories history different lessons we've learned through history people can access
00:47:45 them as they go for tiktok it's all x like that i mean when you think like what changed um x like
00:47:51 having one social media platform that was not suppressing speech like the receipts have come
00:47:56 out yeah i mean uh zuckerberg admitted that uh that they were taking directives from the biden
00:48:00 administration and suppressing uh major news stories including the hunter biden laptop they
00:48:06 suppressed millions of stories and you know he did this speech he's like well you know percentage
00:48:10 wise you know that means we were only suppressing you know like maybe 0.02 percent but that still
00:48:16 counts like his own admission he said for millions of posts millions of posts were being suppressed
00:48:21 we forget how dark of a time it was 2020 to 2024 and when you think like well what happened what
00:48:26 changed a major impetus like it's like well it's that trump was elected or it's because this
00:48:32 happened like you could actually track uh pretty much everything just to elon buying x including
00:48:37 it's like well trump was elected and so now x is better no no you could argue uh elon bought x and
00:48:43 that's the reason trump was elected right like yeah you don't have to take my word for it that's
00:48:47 huge you don't have to take my word for it that a monopoly of control of private institutions like
00:48:53 guys google is private but they effectively control the public square that's right and during
00:48:57 covid different treatments different science was suppressed and you literally felt it you're like
00:49:03 well i mean like the only information i can find on treatment and on the vaccine uh there's a study
00:49:08 i think it was somewhere in europe hey the covid vaccine is linked to an increased risk of cancer
00:49:13 for years studies uh headlines like that were suppressed and when they were suppressed across
00:49:18 the board you experienced it you couldn't find good data the best data you can find you're
00:49:23 pulling up like a website that like has like flashing lights at the top and it's talking
00:49:27 about nanotechnology because on the regular social media platforms all of it blanket banned
00:49:33 so you've experienced in your lifetime if you're watching this channel you probably agree with us
00:49:37 on covid you've experienced the difficulty of getting information of finding like-minded people
00:49:42 of getting the story out, of warning
00:49:45 others, and that's kind of, if you think
00:49:47 about, all right, if TikTok is controlled
00:49:48 and has these interests, we're seeing already
00:49:50 this is a screenshot, very
00:49:53 benign comment. Someone said, Democrats and Republicans
00:49:55 are both controlled by Israel
00:49:56 through AIPAC. Do some research.
00:49:59 That is not a hateful comment. That is literally just
00:50:01 saying, hey, objectively, 250
00:50:03 representatives, Democrat
00:50:05 and Republican, went on a 50
00:50:07 states-won Israel tour. Do some research.
00:50:09 They're two sides of the same coin.
00:50:10 This is a purported screenshot from TikTok
00:50:12 just from a day ago,
00:50:14 hey, comment removed.
00:50:15 This violates our community guidelines.
00:50:17 Crazy.
00:50:17 You take the biggest social media platform 0.99
00:50:19 for young people,
00:50:20 you take Facebook and Instagram,
00:50:22 if they crack down,
00:50:24 there's literally one remaining.
00:50:25 And we see this.
00:50:26 So a new report came out.
00:50:27 These are some of the headlines from it
00:50:29 for anyone that's listening.
00:50:30 Musk, Elon Musk is X.
00:50:32 Go-to platform for anti-Semitism study finds.
00:50:35 X posted anti-Semitism on X.
00:50:37 That's from the Jewish Council for Public Affairs. 1.00
00:50:40 X is among the most effective tools
00:50:41 for spreading. Anti-Semitism in history, research finds. Study. Anti-Semitism thriving in plain 0.93
00:50:47 sight on X. They're giving you the playbook. They lost control. The left overplayed its hand. It was 0.93
00:50:53 with wokeness. It was with BLM. It was with COVID. They overplayed, and there was some pushback.
00:50:57 Think about A New Hope. The empire strikes back. And so now the play is, all right, control through,
00:51:03 again, not Israel as a government, but private individuals with these allegiances, with these
00:51:09 goals control of tiktok privately through here we've got this these i mean zuckerberg you got
00:51:16 to connect like he's going to have this interest all the other like we got to be honest parlor
00:51:20 like nobody like we're going to go to parlor and connect the other ones are too small the major
00:51:25 ones controlled by people with the same set of interests guys there's like one platform remaining
00:51:30 there's only one major one yeah there's always going to be alternative platforms you know but
00:51:34 it's yeah it like you you lose a massive amount of momentum it's a fraction of the populace it
00:51:40 might be one percent maybe it's five percent of you look at the daily users of x and then compare
00:51:45 that with parlor or something else if they take the major platforms they win and x may very well
00:51:52 be the last man standing yeah so that's basically the play that they've given um be on the lookout
00:52:00 for that. 2028 is going to be a huge year. We've talked about this with the fourth turning. There's
00:52:05 a lot of momentum that can't be suppressed. Think about energy in a system. The energy has to go
00:52:09 somewhere, right? A moving train at 200 miles an hour that has all this energy and it doesn't
00:52:14 decide, well, I'm going to take all that energy and I'm just going to stop. Well, if it hits
00:52:17 something that it can't go beyond, all that energy dissipates and it goes everywhere. What we have
00:52:22 now is cultural momentum. We've been building it since, I think, 2023. There was that old article,
00:52:27 the vibe shift something changed in the water about two years ago and it really we've had
00:52:33 not not headwinds you've you've used this illustration before not headwinds like man
00:52:37 we're we're really having a fight uphill for every little bit no corporations are coming out and
00:52:43 celebrating our values uh you have the department of homeland security reposting our guys our cj
00:52:49 angle fox news and ron mcintyre we've had tailwinds and we've had support for the last two years so
00:52:54 we've made a lot of progress but this is going to be kind of that final backstop i think honestly
00:52:59 before you win you've used the idea nat con's the final boss there's going to be one final play
00:53:04 can we corral this young men older men some of the millennial these people that they want america
00:53:11 they want america back they want america first they're done with immigration they want to be
00:53:16 able to work a real job own a real home this is honestly probably the last shot you have to corral
00:53:21 They're a couple million strong at this point.
00:53:23 There's not nothing.
00:53:24 And they're everywhere.
00:53:25 And they're starting to accrue power.
00:53:27 You've got one shot. 0.99
00:53:28 Kick them out. 1.00
00:53:29 Isolate.
00:53:30 I mean, literally, we had, it was called a quarantine report or National Contagion Institute.
00:53:35 It's a contagion.
00:53:36 It's moving around.
00:53:37 We need algorithms.
00:53:38 We need AI to quarantine these people, to get them off.
00:53:41 This is what's going to be the play for the next two years.
00:53:43 And you have to develop, sure, X is great for finding people, but those people then need to be in person, in person networks.
00:53:50 you can lose someone on x forget about them you have their phone number their signal that's
00:53:54 actually a lot harder very well said um we've got a number of super chats i feel like we should go
00:54:01 ahead and try to get to them let's hit a couple and then do our our break and then uh do some
00:54:05 more yeah we'll do that all right uh nathan let's see uh some of the super chats here's one
00:54:09 uh we have 50 from not boring dad thank you not boring dad we appreciate your generosity that
00:54:15 means a lot uh he said 16 years ago today an absolutely terrified but head over heels and
00:54:22 love young man asked a beautiful christian woman to marry him she said yes and has blessed me with
00:54:28 many children and as a help mate please tell her um natie loves baby natie loves baby i'm glad you
00:54:38 got to read that one yep uh that i the last part was a little cringe but i'm sure it means a lot
00:54:44 to that one special someone and had 16 years a husband doing a 50 super chat so that his wife
00:54:51 would be honored on their anniversary 16th year anniversary publicly online you can't hate it
00:54:57 it's pretty pretty sweet gesture god bless you not boring dad i hope you have a wonderful
00:55:02 anniversary god bless your wife and may the lord grant the two of you many more years to come
00:55:07 all right this dude rocks sent 20 thanks so much he asked this is a good question why is it common
00:55:13 for American churches to criticize alcohol use but ignore gluttony, though Scripture warns about
00:55:19 both equally. Proverbs 23, 21 puts drunkenness and obesity side by side, yet only the first is
00:55:25 usually denounced. I will definitely say there's different time periods that have different
00:55:30 prevailing sins. In the early 1900s with the temperance movement, we have to be honest.
00:55:35 There's a lot of men that would work, and they would take all of their money, and they would
00:55:39 drink themselves into a stupor. They would not provide. They would not leave in the home, and
00:55:42 They would not go to church.
00:55:43 And at some level, I'm not justifying the temperance movement,
00:55:46 but at some level, it was saying, hey, we have men that are drunks.
00:55:50 They are not caring for their family.
00:55:52 They are addicted to alcohol.
00:55:54 And I would bet during that time, the early 1900s,
00:55:57 especially into the Great Depression,
00:55:59 you did not have a lot of people that were obese.
00:56:01 So at that time, I think the emphasis was correct.
00:56:04 That was not the time, like, all right, we're doing a 16-part series on gluttony.
00:56:08 But it would be appropriate for alcohol.
00:56:09 Now, what's funny is alcohol sales are actually going down a ton.
00:56:12 They are.
00:56:13 I saw that.
00:56:13 Unusual Whales just posted.
00:56:15 It's like at an all-time.
00:56:16 It's like a record low.
00:56:16 Record low, yep.
00:56:17 So we're at a time, I mean, practically in my Christian life.
00:56:21 I've known a couple people.
00:56:22 They're like, hey, I can't drink.
00:56:23 I just, whatever happens, I get one beer in me.
00:56:25 I can't do it.
00:56:26 They've said, hey, for my personal conscience, I won't even touch one.
00:56:29 But it's not been that many. 0.91
00:56:31 But of Christians that, to be honest, just by the appearance, 0.98
00:56:34 struggle with the sin of gluttony, 0.80
00:56:36 there have been many many more that i've known in my lifetime and so and i agree the question i agree
00:56:42 but in terms of the question why i mean the simple answer is um it's not preached against because the
00:56:48 preacher gets to determine the preaching and preachers are fat yep i don't think we have a
00:56:53 lot of drunk preachers so they're comfortable preaching against the sin that they themselves 0.90
00:56:57 don't struggle with but we do have a lot of fat preachers i i wish we could take you know pete 0.95
00:57:02 headset and uh and put them you know in like some pastor's conference and give the same speech
00:57:07 about you know bmi and some of these things subscribe to the westminster standards and
00:57:13 meet army heightened weight standards no i it is it is a serious sin like when a man gets to a
00:57:19 certain level of obesity and i'm not talking like 10 20 pounds overweight but like morbidly he gets
00:57:24 to the point where it's difficult to father children he will not live as long as far as
00:57:28 being a protector of the home there comes a point where you're inept you can't go up the stairs
00:57:32 without getting winded you couldn't chase you couldn't fight you couldn't heaven forbid your
00:57:36 your kid was snatched you couldn't move fast enough to do anything about them to over and
00:57:41 over again for years on end to the point where you are morbidly obese is a serious sin against
00:57:46 nature and it should be talked about yeah and it's also a visible sin so there are private sins
00:57:50 and in terms of your standing before god it's quite serious um but it's one thing to um it's
00:57:57 one thing to sin it's another to be actively sinning and um you know when you're publicly in
00:58:03 the presence of others in such a way that could uh cause others to stumble um so you know like
00:58:09 think of you know romans 14 you know anything that does not proceed from faith to sin or first
00:58:14 corinthians talking about you know the brother with a weaker conscience and the one with faith
00:58:18 um who's more mature we have these biblical texts that uh what i'm getting at is that whether it's
00:58:24 meat sacrifice to idols, or whether it's alcohol consumption, we have these biblical texts that
00:58:29 talk about how something may be, in the objective sense, morally permissible, meaning that it is
00:58:35 okay for you to do with a clean conscience, to do in faith, such as drinking alcohol. But in these
00:58:41 same passages, we have contexts, and context matters, where it says it is objectively permissible
00:58:47 for a Christian to, in moderation, drink alcohol.
00:58:52 But there are some contexts where you shouldn't. 0.95
00:58:56 For instance, there's contexts where you cause
00:58:57 a weaker brother to stumble.
00:58:59 Well, when it comes to gluttony, the visible,
00:59:01 it would be like having alcohol,
00:59:07 like taking a shower every morning in beer
00:59:10 and having a rank stench,
00:59:15 strong smell of alcohol on your person your breath your clothing every single day so it's like well
00:59:22 i'm not drinking in front of people right i'm not i'm not eating a full you know large size pizza
00:59:27 by myself you know like uh in front of a crowd of people yeah but but the visible signs of your
00:59:33 gluttony you're wearing them on your body in your waistline every second of the day so it would be
00:59:40 like well i'm not drinking a fifth in front of people yeah but you smell like you did um and so
00:59:45 in the same way that it would be improper right it is a it is morally permissible to in moderation
00:59:50 drink alcohol as a christian but it would be improper to douse yourself with a fifth of of
00:59:58 gin every morning on your way in to work and go to alcohol anonymous to observe right so in the
01:00:06 same way that's how gluttony is because it's it's it's this apparent constant continual visible
01:00:11 sign it's a constant publicly visible sign of sin so it's very serious and I can only guess
01:00:20 that the reason more pastors don't preach against it is because more pastors are guilty of it all
01:00:26 right next comment uh let's hit our second commercial break and then we'll finish out the
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01:03:49 timeless treasure. All right, we're back. Next Super Chat is from Nick Bonner. He's one of our
01:03:57 regular donors and asking good questions, making good comments. We appreciate you, Nick. Thank you.
01:04:04 he gave us 10 bucks and said i pray that uh xi pin or uh zi zing zing yeah sorry the the
01:04:13 president of china right yeah okay president of china does not allow the usual suspects
01:04:18 to censor our glorious anti-semitism app i don't know if he cares whatsoever i don't think he cares
01:04:25 yeah and that's why like i tweeted out you know the other day and it got like 320 000 likes just
01:04:31 a little a little before lunch banger just a little before lunch banger 300 i think it's like
01:04:35 315 000 likes um but i said um i did you know the little image of the you know the rockefeller type
01:04:43 painting with the guy standing up in the chapel everyone's looking at him and he's saying something
01:04:47 courageous and you know it wasn't that courageous but you know i said uh i would rather china own 0.95
01:04:52 tiktok than israel yeah and um and the reason why is not because i don't think that china poses any
01:04:59 threat or any problem whatsoever. I'm not a big fan of the Chinese government, um, by any stretch
01:05:04 of the imagination. Uh, I don't think that they should be allies. Um, but I, I think for me, um, 0.97
01:05:11 I think that most, I think most Americans are kind of more aware of that. I think that most
01:05:16 Americans are pretty conscious of the fact that China is not an ally, that China doesn't have our
01:05:21 best interest at heart. Whereas with Israel, one of my concerns is that I actually think that
01:05:30 they're far more subversive. I really do. I think that a lot more people in America, especially 1.00
01:05:35 Christians, have the wool pulled over their eyes. And so I'm more concerned, especially as a
01:05:42 Christian and a Christian minister, I'm far more concerned about American Christians who are 0.75
01:05:46 deceived by israel than american christians who none of them really are fond of the chinese
01:05:52 government to begin with yeah uh we also had to practically say too it's kind of easy to tell if
01:05:57 you have someone that's obviously chinese or chinese american and they're advocating no we
01:06:01 should sell this land off to the chinese communist party well that i kind of see what's going on here
01:06:06 right but if i was to go to europe and learn german and then oh i think that we should uh 0.53
01:06:11 bring in these people or that it wouldn't be as easy to decipher and so with china
01:06:15 their probably next move is Taiwan. 0.95
01:06:17 They want to bring Taiwan and fold it underneath. 0.94
01:06:19 That's probably what they're going to do.
01:06:20 I don't think we're looking at a full-scale attack or nuclear war.
01:06:24 We kind of know their plan.
01:06:25 It's going to be very obvious if Taiwan, if they declare war in Taiwan, if they invade it.
01:06:29 But on the other end, you won't actually even notice if that friend that you used to hear from,
01:06:33 that page that you liked the posts from,
01:06:36 you're probably going to actually forget about them if they quietly get banned.
01:06:41 That is much more nefarious.
01:06:42 That one's much easier to kind of pull the wool over the eyes than, oh, we happen to capture the semiconductor capital of the world for manufacturing.
01:06:50 We all know what the play is there, and we can respond accordingly.
01:06:53 When that happens, well, who do I appeal to?
01:06:55 Who do I go to?
01:06:55 Who made this decision?
01:06:56 It's cloaked in secrecy.
01:06:58 Yep.
01:06:58 Well said.
01:07:00 Hal gave us a $10 super chat.
01:07:02 He doesn't have a comment or a question attached.
01:07:03 He just gave us $10 being generous.
01:07:05 Hal, we really appreciate that.
01:07:06 Thank you.
01:07:07 And then we've got one more super chat.
01:07:09 It's $100 from Dylan Harrington.
01:07:11 $100 from Dylan Harrington.
01:07:13 Dylan, thank you.
01:07:14 That's very generous.
01:07:15 We appreciate it very much.
01:07:17 Dylan says, how long before TPUSA comes out with a pro-Israel statement?
01:07:22 What do you think, Wes?
01:07:24 Charlie Kirk, he loved him some Israel.
01:07:26 He loved him some Israel.
01:07:27 And he was probably, honestly, the forefront.
01:07:29 You think of different apologists, one of the youngest,
01:07:32 and one of the most vocal supporters of Israel.
01:07:35 Like Dennis Prager is, what, like 1,500 years old at this point?
01:07:38 And paralyzed.
01:07:39 And at this point paralyzed.
01:07:40 So he was the youngest, which was really engaging.
01:07:43 And then TPUSA, I mean, he was the CEO.
01:07:45 He was the leader.
01:07:46 And so they reflected that vision.
01:07:48 How long before they come out with the pro-Israel statement?
01:07:50 We'll see.
01:07:52 It depends how, because Erica Kirk, she's aiming to kind of continue his legacy,
01:07:57 kind of continue the mission that he started.
01:08:00 We'll see how much of it came across in private.
01:08:01 So she thinks about the things that Charlie stood for.
01:08:04 Is that going to stand up there?
01:08:06 So she's going to say he wanted conservatives,
01:08:08 and he wanted people to have families 0.83
01:08:10 and he really wanted Israel to do X and Y and Z,
01:08:13 maybe that comes across
01:08:14 and maybe you'll see a podcast episode
01:08:17 with so-and-so talking about the dangers of anti-Semitism
01:08:20 or also practically she could carry on the vision
01:08:23 and just by virtue of the people that join it,
01:08:26 they kind of recognize, yeah, this is not the issue to die on.
01:08:29 It's not a winning issue.
01:08:30 Like Charlie studied for years
01:08:31 because he was literally saying towards the end
01:08:33 every single time he would set up on campus,
01:08:35 hey, why do you support Israel doing this?
01:08:37 do you know what the talmud says about this why but what about israel being involved in these or
01:08:41 jews being involved in these social movements he was literally like a full-time apologist for
01:08:45 israel he was conservatism on the side and like he loved him some israel he did whether that will
01:08:50 be continued depends on the people who take uh leadership different tp usa chapters the people
01:08:55 themselves like you start tp usa chapter and you break out the israel flag and 50 of the people
01:09:02 that just joined and they're excited about it walk out that sends kind of a message and so that
01:09:06 very much so remains to be seen the the inertia is certainly pro isu that's what tp usa has been
01:09:12 that's what charlie was for better for worse will that continue we'll see yeah so i think it's yet
01:09:18 to be determined we have to see you know erica has been appointed ceo of tp usa but you know who
01:09:23 actually comes alongside her um i'm hoping that you know the majority of her time is spent as a
01:09:28 mother with her two children uh who now have the deceased father um and so i i don't think that
01:09:34 you know, she'll be CEO and be making some decisions. But day in and day out, I think it's
01:09:39 probably going to be new leadership that fills the void. And so it depends on who those individuals
01:09:44 are and what their convictions are. But there's one other factor that I think we'd be, you know,
01:09:50 in the spirit of this overall episode, we'd be remiss if we didn't include. It also depends on
01:09:55 whether or not there's a handsome check. I do think that it's entirely, we know that Charlie,
01:10:01 at least from what we've heard allegedly he turned down 150 million dollars from israel
01:10:07 dylan followed up and said i was under the impression that his sentiment towards israel
01:10:12 changed shortly before yeah so i don't think i don't think so so i've heard a lot of people
01:10:16 saying that i think that charlie you know he did one of these and put his finger in the wind and
01:10:22 realized um i cannot be insufferable unapologetic shill for israel and keep you know a fraction
01:10:31 of the amount of influence that he had built up over the last 10 years. I think he just realized
01:10:35 this is a losing issue. And if I want to be effective on the right in conservative politics,
01:10:42 I've got to at least be willing to humor the other side. It seemed, at least appeared to be
01:10:50 a little bit more objective or, you know, or at least individually as the man, the person,
01:10:56 charlie kirk i can be pro israel uh but i at least you know need to score some points with
01:11:01 this massive growing you know population of people who really do not like israel score some points by
01:11:07 at least platforming some people who represent the other side of the aisle and and so that's
01:11:11 what you saw in the latest tp usa uh conference before charlie's assassination you saw dave smith
01:11:17 you saw tucker carlson and a lot of people put a lot of pressure on charlie and good on him
01:11:22 um you know like he even had i think with meg kelly or something you know there's clips from
01:11:26 a podcast uh where he you know was talking about how much pressure um he was under to drop tucker
01:11:33 carlson as one of the speakers at tp usa and he didn't and he even not only did he have dave smith
01:11:38 and tucker carlson and give tucker carlson a main session but he hosted a conversation about
01:11:42 what's happening you know in gaza and and what's going on with israel and iran with dave smith
01:11:48 through very outspoken against it. And so he actually had not just those individuals, but
01:11:53 that designated topic and discussion represented at TPUSA. So in that sense, I think Charlie was
01:12:00 pivoting his tactics. The way I see it, I don't think he was shifting his position. I really
01:12:06 don't. I think Charlie loved him some Israel to the day that he died. He loved Jesus and he loved
01:12:11 Israel. And I'm like, well, I would have preferred for you to pick a lane, you know, but like many,
01:12:18 I mean, let's just think, you know, the last 50, 60, 80 years, a lot of people have died just assuming that Israel is God's chosen people.
01:12:28 And, you know, and I think, you know, they died in ignorance.
01:12:32 So I don't think that Charlie was nefarious.
01:12:34 I'm not saying that he was malicious, but I think that he had the mainstream view that was common among conservatives in America at the time of his ascendancy.
01:12:45 Well, think about money, too.
01:12:46 I mean, Dennis Prager was a huge influence in his life.
01:12:48 who kind of gave him platforms and understandably there was more at play than just simply israel he
01:12:53 was a he was bright he was articulate he was well studied but practically the only way you were
01:12:57 going to make it a conservative media 10 years ago honestly even still to a degree today most
01:13:03 certainly 10 years ago well everyone there would have would have been pro-israel so it's also the
01:13:07 milieu he crew group came up in it was the money yeah here's from those people like just be honest
01:13:12 yeah let's just be honest like it's like everybody knows he's a household name right he's a household
01:13:17 name because he was pro-israel yeah if he was outspokenly against israel uh is talented so i'm
01:13:23 not i don't want to take away anything from him so i'm not saying he was just pro pro-israel there's
01:13:27 plenty of pro-israel people who are you know they don't have any talent to speak up you know so you
01:13:32 don't know their name charlie you know uh was pro-israel and he was talented he was gifted he
01:13:36 was sharp he was likable he was charismatic you know all these different things he was um he had
01:13:40 that protestant work ethic he was incredibly disciplined um you know vigilant and all these
01:13:45 different things. And so he was a rising star on his own merit, with his own giftings, his own
01:13:50 discipline, his own work. But his pro-Israel position may not have exactly, you know, put him
01:13:57 on the map. But if he was against Israel, it would have been an inhibitor. Well, Ben Shapiro would
01:14:04 never, like, nuke an intern just for asking questions, right? He would respond and give him
01:14:08 the reasons. Especially someone who only has a thousand Twitter followers at the time. Yeah.
01:14:13 webcam from his dorm room or or a uh secretly recorded uh cell phone from a random girl when
01:14:21 you don't even know you're being recorded and then that's put online and then retweeted by
01:14:24 ben shapiro so yeah charlie you you know of charlie because um he was gifted he was godly
01:14:31 a lot of great things hats off to charlie um you also know of charlie uh because he towed the line
01:14:38 on israel and uh if he had not um i i don't think i think he still would have been gifted and gone
01:14:44 far but in the climate on in conservative politics in america as it's been until very very recently
01:14:51 last couple years um it would not uh have allowed for um charlie to been outspoken against israel
01:14:58 and still have the degree of notoriety that he was able to achieve so no i don't think that charlie
01:15:04 was changing his position um i do think though that as the cultural winds have shifted and people
01:15:10 many young people because that's the thing charlie wasn't just a conservative his whole thing
01:15:14 was uh was reaching the youth right so he literally had his whole platform is not just
01:15:22 conservative politics but particularly you know college students and high school students the youth
01:15:26 and the youth is the exact demographic that has in you know before our eyes very quickly and
01:15:33 significantly soured on israel and so i think charlie knowing that um that the youth is his
01:15:39 target audience and that the youth are souring on israel i think he made some concessions in his
01:15:46 tactics right like a willingness to have dave smith tucker carlson have some of those conversations
01:15:51 i don't think that he actually changed in terms of his position that's that's my best guess and
01:15:57 that's the power of money glenn beck um dennis prager ben shapiro when you have money and
01:16:02 influence you get to be a kingmaker so you get to pick and choose hey i like this guy he's using
01:16:07 our rhetoric i like this this guy he's towing the line at least he's willing to oh this guy isn't
01:16:11 i'm going to demote him that's the power whether it be money enough to buy tiktok and own a
01:16:16 platform set your own moderation levels on it whether it's the ability to take up and coming
01:16:20 young stars and make them into household names that's the power of money money makes you a king
01:16:26 maker right media individuals for the kingmakers at the time uh that's what they saw in charlie
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01:17:23 final words Wes there's a good question are we justified by works I don't want to open the huge
01:17:28 we talked about Protestants and Catholics but it's really the distinction it's important and
01:17:33 it's fascinating so are we justified by works to be justified is this is what Luther captured in
01:17:37 the Protestant Reformation he actually went back to the Greek and in the Greek the word for
01:17:42 justification dikaiosune righteousness forensic it's declarative forensic it's judicial yeah so
01:17:49 justified in that sense in the greek the language that it was written in is the idea of am i declared
01:17:55 righteous based on what i do declaring me righteous in a court exactly now jerome not not being
01:18:02 righteous or becoming righteous but a moment justification is likened to a process of being
01:18:09 made righteous justification is likened to a declaration or pronouncement in a moment so
01:18:16 So it was a sanctification, a process being made righteous, justification, a moment being
01:18:20 declared righteous.
01:18:21 Yes.
01:18:22 But Jerome, when he translates the Latin Vulgate, the word in Latin that is used is more the
01:18:27 idea of to make just.
01:18:29 So this was what was burdening Luther's conscience.
01:18:31 He said, well, God justifies the righteous, but I have to be made just.
01:18:34 And I'm a sinner here and I'm a sinner there.
01:18:36 And that's the crucial distinction is that justification, it's a one-time thing.
01:18:40 And in the original language, the language Paul is using, it is a legal declaration.
01:18:45 So our works don't factor into it.
01:18:47 We are declared righteous because Jesus died for us.
01:18:50 God looks on Christ as if he was us.
01:18:52 Now, sanctification comes in because James says justification without works is dead.
01:18:57 What does he mean?
01:18:58 That we're justified by our works?
01:18:59 No, justification lacking the attending sanctification.
01:19:03 There is a sense in which justification also makes us righteous.
01:19:07 We're made by being declared righteous, made righteous in sanctification.
01:19:11 So we're not declared right with God because of works.
01:19:13 but in the final analysis our sanctification will be evidence of oh yeah they were legally declared
01:19:20 justified righteous before god right luther put it like this he said we're saved and justified
01:19:26 when he said saved he's primarily talking about justification there's a sense in which
01:19:30 we have been saved we're being saved ephesians says we are being saved and also we will be saved
01:19:35 i think of romans chapter seven where paul the apostle who i believe this is post-conversion
01:19:39 he's already a Christian, and yet he still writes, who will, right? Who will, future tense,
01:19:44 save me from this body of death. So he's not saying who will save my soul, his soul has already
01:19:48 been saved, justification. He's not saying who is saving me, present tense, the renewing of his
01:19:53 mind, sanctification, but who will save this body, speaking of a future tense element of salvation,
01:20:01 namely glorification, right? The salvation of the body. So you can look at it like this,
01:20:06 justification, sanctification, glorification. Justification past the soul having been declared
01:20:12 righteous, the soul being saved. Saintification, present and ongoing, that is the mind being
01:20:19 renewed, being sanctified, you're being saved. And then glorification, the body being fully
01:20:24 restored and redeemed and resurrected on the final day, the body and that future tense, you will be
01:20:30 saved. So we have been saved, we're being saved, we will be saved. Justification, sanctification,
01:20:34 glorification. And so back to the Luther quote, he said that we're saved by faith alone. And when
01:20:40 he says saved here, he's not speaking so much about sanctification or glorification, but namely
01:20:44 justification, that the salvation that for the Christian is already a past tense. It's a moment
01:20:49 of being declared righteous. So he's saying we're justified, saved in the sense of justification.
01:20:55 We are justified by faith alone, but true saving faith is never alone. So he says we're saved by
01:21:02 faith alone, but true saving faith is never alone. And so what he's saying is it is the faith alone
01:21:07 that saves, but if it be a saving faith, a real faith, a living faith, then it will always be
01:21:14 manifest with good works. Good works, I always think of Samwise Gougie, right? When Frodo is
01:21:21 hopping into the little boat and he's about to paddle down the river and he's leaving the rest
01:21:26 of the company, this is Fellowship of the Ring, leaving the rest of the company behind because he
01:21:31 realizes that, you know, the task that's been appointed to him to take the ring to Mordor so
01:21:36 that it could be unmade. He realizes that this is a great risk and that he is ultimately, he poses
01:21:42 a threat to everyone around him. And so he's not wanting to endanger the rest of his company,
01:21:46 the fellowship of the ring. And so he's going to set off alone. And so he climbs into the boat and
01:21:51 he's already, you know, pushed off from the shore and he's in the middle of the river starting to
01:21:56 paddle. And Samwise, you know, realizes that he's gone and he catches up to him. He's standing on
01:22:00 the shore. He said, Mr. Frodo, no, no, don't leave. Don't leave. And Frodo says, I'm sorry, Sam. I have
01:22:07 to do this alone. I have to go and destroy the ring. And Sam responds by saying, of course you
01:22:12 do. And I'm coming with you. And I think of that with faith and works. So it's like faith is on
01:22:20 the ship. Faith is like Frodo and works are like Sam. So Frodo is like, but I'm saved by faith
01:22:27 alone. And then good works. Sam's like, of course you are. And I'm coming with you. And that's kind
01:22:34 of the picture of the Christian life. It's like good works for the Christian. It's like, faith is
01:22:38 like, no, but I'm saved by faith alone. And good works are like, of course you are, but we're
01:22:42 coming with you. And so it is with every genuine Christian born again by the spirit of God,
01:22:47 by grace alone, through faith alone, in Christ alone, that person cannot help but have Samwise 0.96
01:22:53 gouging good works uh wading into the water and forcing himself onto the ship and coming with you
01:22:59 because if you truly have faith you will have good works we're saved by faith alone
01:23:03 but saving faith is never alone we have a catholic in the chat he said joel is quoting
01:23:09 catholic tolkien to shore up luther how disrespectful and to clarify we love tolkien
01:23:14 and he was catholic and we appreciate him very much we also love gk chesterton appreciate him
01:23:18 very much and to clarify when i said about jerome translating sometimes in different languages like
01:23:23 there's german words that don't have an english equivalent so i'm just practically saying that
01:23:26 one of the outworkings the greek into the vulgate into the latin was it had more of an idea of to
01:23:31 whereas i think in the greek and i think the way you espouse it is a much more helpful term instead
01:23:37 of feeling as though well i have to make luther called it forensic righteousness god has legally
01:23:43 declared me as if i've never seen imputed not infused right through a process or through
01:23:48 sacraments but imputed accredited to the account it's like a bank transfer all the righteousness
01:23:54 of christ transferred imputed not infused in a moment in a moment uh through faith forensic
01:24:01 righteousness judicial righteousness declared declarative righteousness and i can understand
01:24:07 what catholics can try to guard against well if you just make it about faith and it sounds like
01:24:11 someone says magic words or believe some intellectual ascent that they can be saved
01:24:15 and go on and we call that a paperwork christian paperwork america there's
01:24:19 paperwork americans like ilhan omar and then there's paperwork christians it's
01:24:23 like well where's the paperwork you know the billy graham crusade where
01:24:26 they literally signed a piece of paper when they walked down the aisle like
01:24:28 there's a like 99 of them stuck with it right
01:24:31 there is such a thing as a paperwork american there's also such a thing as a
01:24:35 paperwork christian and luther was not uh ever advocating for one of those uh
01:24:39 but for the catholics in the chatter they're saying yeah but there's a lot of
01:24:42 protestants today who are uh we would say uh-huh so true king you're absolutely right um and that
01:24:47 is a major problem um but we're not that's not who we are we want to see christians do good works
01:24:53 and i think of the book of hebrews it says uh that we should earnestly pursue holy holiness for
01:24:58 without which no one will see the lord even rc sproul who you know was a protestant died a
01:25:02 protestant faithful protestant um and was outspoken against roman catholicism uh pretty much every
01:25:08 every day that ended and why um even he said uh that that holiness that hebrew speaks of for
01:25:14 without holiness no one will see the lord he said um i bet my hat that the holiness being spoken of
01:25:20 here is a progressive righteousness belonging to sanctification and not the accredited imputed
01:25:26 righteousness holiness that comes through faith and justification from christ so and essentially
01:25:31 what Sproul was saying is, without good works, active, ongoing, progressive, sanctification,
01:25:39 good works, you will not see the Lord. Why? Because we're saved by works? No, because the absence,
01:25:44 the total absence of good works is proof positive that there's no justification.
01:25:48 And he also said, one more example from Sproul, he spoke of when Jesus says, but I tell you,
01:25:55 unless your righteousness exceeds that of the Pharisees. And a lot of Protestants will interpret 0.62
01:25:59 that and say, oh, well, he's, you know, Jesus is speaking of positional, not progressive righteousness,
01:26:05 right, with good works and sanctification, but positional righteousness, declarative righteousness,
01:26:09 belonging to justification, which is through faith alone. A lot of Protestants will preach
01:26:13 that text, and they'll say, when Jesus says, I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that
01:26:17 of the Pharisees, you will not see the kingdom of heaven, a lot of Protestants will say, oh,
01:26:21 well, Jesus is talking about positional righteousness, justification, and for every
01:26:25 Christian, every genuinely born-again Christian, your righteousness does exceed that of the
01:26:29 Pharisees, because you have the perfect righteousness of Christ, which has been
01:26:33 accredited to you through faith. Yeah, that is true. But Sproul, God bless him. He was one of
01:26:40 the Protestant pastors who said, that's true, that concept, that principle is true, and we can preach
01:26:45 it elsewhere from other texts of Scripture, but I don't believe that that's what Jesus had
01:26:48 in mind in that particular text. He says, no, I think the point that Jesus is making is that the
01:26:54 Pharisees, even in terms of their progressive righteousness, their actions, their works,
01:26:58 they're not that righteous. The favorite label that Jesus gave to these Jewish rabbis is not 1.00
01:27:06 legalist, right? Protestants always, the problem with the Pharisees were they were legalists. They 0.88
01:27:11 cared too much about good works. That's not what Jesus says. He literally says, do as they do,
01:27:16 or I'm sorry, do as they say, but do not do as they do. What's the number one word Jesus uses
01:27:21 to describe the Pharisees, Sadducees, the lawyers, the scribes. It's not legalist. The word he uses
01:27:27 is hypocrite. In other words, according to Jesus, exceeding the righteousness of the Pharisees was
01:27:33 not just a matter of having the perfect righteousness of Christ and justification.
01:27:37 It was actually being a better person and doing better works than the Pharisees, which was not
01:27:41 actually a high bar because the Pharisees were full of it. The Pharisees weren't actually
01:27:45 righteous. They were hypocrites. They talked a big game, but they could talk the talk, but they 1.00
01:27:50 didn't walk the walk. And I think Sproul is right, that when Jesus says, your righteousness
01:27:54 needs to exceed even the righteousness of the Pharisees, I don't believe, as Sproul did not
01:27:59 believe, that he's speaking, that Christ is speaking of the positional righteousness belonging
01:28:04 to justification in that instance. But he's saying, no, it should be normative for the Christian life
01:28:09 that his progressive, ongoing righteous works exceed that of the Pharisees, not because that's
01:28:14 what saves him, but as a proof, as a demonstration and evidence of the faith that does save. And the
01:28:21 faith that truly saves will manifest itself in good works. And those good works will actually
01:28:27 be superior good works to the Pharisees because the Pharisees, they taught good works, but they
01:28:32 did not do them. They were hypocrites. So we have ample examples, whether it's the book of James, 0.99
01:28:38 ample examples to stress the vital importance of good works without making good works necessary
01:28:44 for justification. So great question. I'm glad we had time to get to it. Again, make sure to
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