Students across the country are demanding that their university's endowment fund be divested from companies that profit from war, including companies that are based in or headquartered in Israel. They argue that if the endowment funds are invested in these companies, they are perpetuating genocide and are contributing to the perpetuation of the Israeli military's campaign of destruction in the Middle East.
00:04:26.240And the reason why it started on April 17th in particular is because while the attacks originally happened back in October, shortly after the attacks, there were many professors who sympathize with Hamas.
00:04:40.940But in particular, there was a professor at Colombia who publicly posted strong support for Hamas and I believe the attacks themselves, not just leave the people, the civilians in Hamas alone, but even even for the attacks of October 7th in particular.
00:04:58.820And the way the timeline played out was that Congress had a hearing on what was going on in particular at university campuses, and they called for the president of Colombia, Manoush Shafiq, to come and testify about, in particular, this particular faculty member who had voiced very public support for Hamas and the attacks.
00:05:22.760and due to scheduling and um shafiq being already was going on some travel for the university
00:05:31.880she was not actually able to go to those hearings and they scheduled the hearings for april and it
00:05:37.820was in april and particularly on april 17th that she finally was able to go to the hearing and in
00:05:43.740the house of representatives and she pledged then that she was going to fire that professor who had
00:05:50.820posted the public support for Hamas, even though that had been back in October, October 7th. And
00:05:58.000so while there was already a student sentiment of wanting to support Palestine, wanting to protest
00:06:04.320Israel, it was her testimony before Congress on April 17th that pushed it over the edge. And that's
00:06:11.160why it particularly started at Columbia. It's because it was the Columbia professor or president
00:06:15.960talking about a particular pro-Hamas professor at Columbia.
00:12:59.160We're going to get into Zionism a little bit and just make it abundantly clear, because0.98
00:13:03.520I think one of the things that I'm seeing from guys who are good guys, okay, so not
00:13:08.220Eric Erickson, not James Lindsay, but guys who are good guys on the right, Christians,
00:13:13.020conservatives, evangelical, biblical, you know, friends that I respect in many ways
00:13:18.900and are better men than me in many regards.
00:13:21.620But even some of these individuals are, they're underneath what I would say is an illusion.
00:13:28.840that the leftist kind of college protester, you know, so like the leftist Marxists that
00:13:35.340are protesting against the past, you know, the present leftist Marxist who's 20 years
00:13:40.620old and a college student who's protesting against the past leftist Marxists, aka, you
00:13:45.760know, Columbia, you know, the institutions and universities, you know, there are some
00:13:50.920good guys, Christian guys who are saying they're doing this because they're against
00:13:56.500Israel because Israel has the whiff of Christianity. It has, you know, yeah, no,
00:14:02.680it's not Christianity. And these people do need to repent. They need to believe the gospel and0.97
00:14:05.840they need to follow Jesus. But they're Christian adjacent. They're Christian adjacent. And I would
00:14:11.960profoundly reject that. It is not Christian adjacent. This is a strong statement, but1.00
00:14:20.700i'll go on record publicly saying it i i could make a more solid argument for islam being more
00:14:27.040christian adjacent i think uh than talmudic judaism um i really think that i can support
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00:17:48.940All right. So I'm going to hand it to Wes here in just a moment, but briefly I'm seeing in the
00:17:55.020comments during that commercial break that a few of you don't appreciate my statement about
00:18:00.320Islamic, you know, Islam being more Christian adjacent than Talmudic Judaism. So let me just
00:18:08.540clarify that. After careful consideration, I've decided to become worse. I stand by it. I'm
00:18:14.700doubling down. Again, you just have to take the statement for what I said. I didn't, I'm not
00:18:19.920saying that Islam is adjacent to Christianity. It's not. It's been a historic enemy of Christianity
00:18:27.820and one of the biggest. You know, so I, you know, I've been spending a lot of time this last1.00
00:18:32.860couple of years reading, you know, reading like God's Battalions, Defenders of the West,
00:18:40.140or Sword and Scimitar, or, you know, there's multiple different books that have been addressing
00:18:45.000the Crusades. And as you learn about the history of the Crusades, you find very quickly that
00:18:49.360Islam is no friend of Christianity. My point in making that comment is to say neither is1.00
00:18:55.740Talmudic Judaism. So it was not meant to elevate Islam towards the Christian faith and say, well,
00:19:02.680hey, you know what? They're not that far away. No, they're light years away. But Talmudic
00:19:07.400Judaism is just that far, if not more. That's my point. And that's why I think there's a1.00
00:19:12.140misconception for Christians, where they think, Christians often think, and I've thought like
00:19:17.940this, and Wes has a story about this, but they often think that Judaism is basically,
00:19:25.780it's half of Christianity, or two-thirds of Christianity, that it's the Bible minus the
00:19:32.780New Testament. But it's not. Think about this. I'll try to say it as concisely as possible.
00:19:37.4002,000 years ago. So this is a long time. 2,000 years ago, when Jesus appeared on the scene,
00:19:43.160after 400 years, according to the prophet Malachi, the skies had turned to bronze or brass.
00:19:49.420The word of the Lord was few in those days. So you have a rebellious people, namely Israel,0.96
00:19:54.900already. And then you have 400 years of virtual silence from the Lord, where Israel becomes even0.86
00:20:01.040more perverse and even more rebellious. And then you have the entrance of Jesus in his earthly0.86
00:20:05.900ministry 2,000 years ago, and he's constantly combating the Jewish religious rulers of his day,0.87
00:20:13.540the Pharisees, the Sadducees, the lawyers, the scribes. And what he's doing again and again0.90
00:20:19.060is dealing with their perversions of the Mosaic law that they had so taken. So my point is 2,000
00:20:27.280years ago at the time of Christ, the kind of Judaism that you had at that point was already,0.66
00:20:33.700it wasn't the Old Testament minus the New. It was the Old Testament minus the New, and then0.92
00:20:39.440just the Old Testament on its own perverted, twisted, tweaked.
00:20:43.860Let me read Mark 7 for you here. It's Mark 7, 11 through 13. This is when Jesus is talking with
00:20:49.200the Pharisees, and he says, but you say that if a man says to his father or mother, whatever you
00:20:55.180have received from me is korban, that is a gift devoted to God, that he is no longer permitted
00:21:00.920to do anything for his father or mother. So this was a tradition that the religious leaders had
00:21:05.680put on top of the law, right? Which is kind of what the Talmud is. It's a reinterpretation,
00:21:10.860adding of a tradition, building over time of tradition after tradition. And then Jesus
00:21:15.640comments on that addition that the religious leaders had made. He said, thus, you nullify
00:21:21.020the word of God by the tradition you have handed down. And so you do in many such matters.
00:21:27.180So when Jesus appears on the scene, the Jewish religion, Old Covenant Israel, was already so far gone, so far perverted and twisted that Jesus found it essentially unrecognizable.0.88
00:21:45.800And my point is this, 2,000 years later with Talmudic Judaism and modern Judaism that we have today, the Pharisees and scribes and Sadducees that Jesus was strongly opposed to, they would look at what the current state of Talmudic Judaism and they would say, what a perversion.0.96
00:22:04.440They would find it unrecognizable.0.83
00:30:30.860Something you brought up reminded me of something that Herman Bovink says, and it's a reason why as well Judaism was essentially over in 70 AD.
00:30:38.480Bovink writes, he goes to a good length to write about this, that the Jewish conception of eternal life was always bound up in the land.
00:30:44.180So when they're brought out of Egypt and out of slavery, all of the promises related to being established in a land, having their enemies defeated,
00:30:50.920the land itself would be abundant that their families would be fruitful and multiply and
00:30:56.360throughout the whole Old Testament you see the longing of the patriarchs of the kings of David
00:31:00.320for the land itself for the mountain of God Jerusalem for the temple and that system was
00:31:05.280always meant to be if the Jews had accepted their Messiah would have been that Christ would have
00:31:09.720returned there we can speculate about maybe what would have happened but the expectation of course
00:31:14.000that would give way to an eternal life over all of the earth but so when you have leading up to0.68
00:31:18.96070 AD, the destruction, the disbursement of the Jews, that functionally ends Judaism because you0.75
00:31:25.880have no conception of the Old Covenant and everything in that it described as blessing,
00:31:30.300as eternal life, as residing in the land, as having a temple to worship. There's nothing left
00:31:34.940for it to continue to be. Modern Jews, for example, today, Yom Kippur, the Day of Atonement,1.00
00:31:40.300they can't do it. They simply read Torah on that day. There is nowhere to offer sacrifices.0.95
00:31:44.580it functionally literally as a religion as we know judaism in the old testament had to end at0.96
00:31:50.680that point when they were kicked out of the land dispersed over all the earth and like you were
00:31:54.780saying what came in there was talmudic judaism simple way that i've i've thought about it because
00:31:59.560i grew up dispensationalist uh who didn't well there's left behind books then there's a teenager
00:32:04.300left behind book series and i read not just the adult ones but the teenager series on top of it
00:32:33.600No, I don't want anything to do with that.
00:32:35.380And eventually, Big Brother will show up, and he'll come to the gate, bring his admission ticket, and say, you know what, you were right all along.
00:32:41.840So that's when, growing up, and even probably a couple years ago, that would have been my conception.0.96
00:32:46.040Judeo-Christian, you know, the Jews on the outside looking in, but eventually brought back.0.94
00:32:50.720Now my conception would be much more, Big Brother was, again, invited to the wedding feast.
00:32:54.800Invited to come to their Messiah, to receive him.
00:32:57.800He came to his own, and they received him not.
00:32:59.400I feel like this is a parable of some sort.
00:33:34.600And that helped me think through, it's not Judeo-Christian, it's Christianity, the Old Testament fulfilled in Christ, the New Testament, the New Covenant age.
00:33:42.040Right, and we really do need to get that out of our language.
00:43:21.760That you have the Talmud added on top of it that obscures any type of whiff of Christ that theoretically some religion that tried to observe Old Testament practice, Old Testament piety, Old Testament religion,
00:43:32.760religion, if that was even possible, completely effaces, completely obscures.0.56
00:43:37.820Well, I don't, I still hold a reformed position on the future for Jews, still.1.00
00:44:07.620And not only that, but Christ has rejected them, which is more scary.0.88
00:44:11.800And so I don't see how you have a whiff of Christ in the practice of Judaism.0.85
00:44:19.340You have a whiff of Christ in the Old Testament, of course, right?0.53
00:44:22.640The Old Testament screen, there's much more than a whiff of Christ in the Old Testament.
00:44:25.720But in the practice of a religion that has separated itself from Christ, who is God, so has separated themselves from God, I don't understand the claim that there's still kind of a tendril or a whiff or anything of the beauty of Christ in the practice of Talmudic Judaism.
00:44:47.040I just, I don't understand how he can make that claim.
00:44:49.600And maybe he'll clarify, and maybe we'll be wrong about that.
00:44:52.940And maybe there is something there that we're not considering.
00:44:55.660But that's, to me, a hard argument to accept.
00:45:18.720So the partial preterist view as it pertains to Romans 11 in particular and some other New Testament texts as well is preterist, just a Latin word for past, meaning fulfilled.
00:45:29.440And so we would look, Wes and I would look at Romans 11 and say that there was a partial hardening over the Jewish people because of their rejection of Christ, and that was part of their judgment.
00:45:42.300partial meaning not every single Jewish person according to the flesh. There were some Jewish
00:45:47.280converts during the time of the apostles and during the time of Jesus in his earthly ministry
00:45:51.520and preaching. But for about 40 years, between the ascension of Christ and then AD 70, the
00:45:58.220destruction of the temple in Jerusalem and all these things, this final judgment that Jesus0.92
00:46:01.980promised in Matthew 24 and the Olivet Discourse, that this generation, not this type of generation,
00:46:07.700this kind of people, but know this literal generation, which in Jewish culture, and it
00:46:13.480would have been about 40 years. So this generation will not pass away until they see the son of man0.86
00:46:18.180coming on the clouds. The clouds is not representative of glory and heaven, but rather
00:46:24.000judgment. It's like Joel chapter two, that talks of the sun being blot out and turned to blood.
00:46:48.980So Jesus says that in Matthew 24, that this generation will not pass away.
00:46:53.600And so the partial preterist view is that Paul says that a partial hardening has come
00:46:58.380unto the Jews for this 40-year period.
00:47:00.540So some are saved, but most are hardened and reject Christ.0.74
00:47:04.120But then leading up towards the end, and then especially culminating and climaxing in this 80-70 judgment where Jesus does spiritually return.
00:47:13.840It is a parousia, a second coming of Christ, not in the flesh.
00:47:18.000That's his final physical return that is in our future that we still await.
00:47:21.940But Jesus, while physically at the right hand of God, the Father Almighty, he still spiritually, the spirit of the risen Christ,
00:47:28.840did in fact return in AD 70 on clouds representing judgment in the destruction of the temple just like
00:47:35.380he said not one stone left on another the destruction of Jerusalem and judged that
00:47:40.300generation of that particular people who chose right who chose to reject him and so the partial
00:47:46.820prejudice view would say not only are there not land promises anymore for Israel all that has
00:47:51.700been fulfilled see the end of the book of Joshua for that the last couple chapters of Joshua says
00:47:56.060everything that the Lord promised through the prophet Moses has come to pass and has been given
00:48:01.840to you. All the land, you got it. God gave it. So it's not that God, this is not saying God didn't
00:48:07.440keep his promises or he failed. God answered all the physical promises and Israel in their
00:48:12.520faithlessness lost them. And then according to this partial preterist view of Romans 11,
00:48:16.960even the spiritual promise, namely, because Paul says partial hardening, but he says Israel will
00:48:21.540be saved. And so he speaks of a future revival, a future spiritual revival among the Israelite
00:48:31.500people, according to the flesh, the ethnic Israelite people. He says that they will be
00:48:36.640saved. There's going to be this revival. And it was in Paul's future at the time of his writing,
00:48:41.960Romans chapter 11, but in our past. And so I would hold the position that that has actually,
00:48:47.520Paul was writing about a near future event instead of something far off, a near future event.
00:48:53.480And it was future for him, but it's long past for us that God did save many of the Jewish people.
00:49:00.000They actually, they saw, Josephus even talks about accounts over a dozen eyewitness accounts
00:49:05.960of people when Jerusalem was sacked in smoke and ashes. They saw silhouettes that looked like
00:49:13.780chariots running back and forth in the sky behind these clouds of smoke and ash, and that many
00:49:19.880people, it was as clear as day, they acknowledged, oh, this is spiritual. This is not just Titus
00:49:26.200coming and destroying the temple, but this is what Jesus precisely told us. And then we killed him0.98
00:49:34.560and rejected him, and he is now judging us. And many of them, seeing that judgment, that judgment
00:49:41.360was used in the providence of God and his mercy to soften their hearts and to bring about repentance.
00:49:46.240And so Israel actually was saved. And now, 1,950 years later, what is there now left for Israel?
00:49:56.740Nothing. What's left for Israel is, number one, Jewish people today, there's a strong debate to
00:50:04.420be had whether or not they have any ethnic claim to Abraham at all. And I'm not saying somebody
00:50:09.300else does. I'm just saying that's already, in my assessment, highly skeptical. Secondly,
00:50:15.960even if it was the same, these were Abraham's descendants, or even if they're not, it's a
00:50:22.880moot point. In my assessment, the promise for the nation state of Israel today, whether they're the
00:50:29.080offspring of Abraham according to the flesh or not, whoever they are, they are certainly, what we can
00:50:34.560say with all certainty is they are human beings, therefore created in the image of God, in a common
00:50:40.760grace sense, therefore loved by God, and they are a nation. Whether they should have been, whether
00:50:47.060we should have been involved back in the 1940s, it doesn't matter. In God's providence, it was
00:50:52.220brought about, and because they are people made in the image of God, and because they are a nation,
00:50:58.360then as a post-millennial, my belief is that what is in their future, what's promised to
00:51:04.220modern day Israel, the nation state of Israel, is the same thing promised to China and Brazil
00:51:09.160and Uganda and the Sudan and these United States of America, namely the promise being
00:51:15.000that all of the earth will flock to Mount Zion, that Jesus, that the nations ask of me and I will
00:51:23.760give the nations to you as an inheritance and that the son has indeed asked the father and that
00:51:28.480gradually throughout human history in this gospel age, the father is doing precisely that, answering
00:51:33.720the request of his son one by one, bringing the nations to him in salvation and belief in the
00:51:39.380gospel and Israel will be no different. That they will be saved too, but they're not going to be
00:51:44.540saved in some special dispensational Zionist category. They're going to be saved in just this
00:51:50.180global national category, just like any other nation on the planet.
00:51:58.140I don't necessarily disagree with much of what you said there, but I think that what0.67
00:52:02.680is unique about Israel is that there are nations who have ceased to exist from history entirely.
00:52:10.760And in fact, a lot of them ceased to exist around the time of Christ.
00:52:15.280God made promises to Old Testament nations,
00:52:18.560and then it seems like some of them were unachievable without the gospel.
00:52:23.280There are nations that did cease to exist.0.99
00:52:25.860We don't have the Ammonites around anymore,1.00
00:52:27.660even some that trace themselves back to an Abrahamic line.0.99
00:52:31.660And to me, the fulfillment for Israel is that there will be some sort of vestige0.53
00:52:35.500that carries on the name of Jew that will last until the end when all nations are saved,0.56
00:52:40.460so that it's not just Old Testament, you know, we know that all the nations of the earth will be
00:52:47.020blessed in Christ. And so there will be representatives from all the Old Testament
00:52:51.680nations in heaven, whether it's through elect infants who died as babies or in the womb or
00:52:58.200that sort of thing, or whether there was some sort of witness or faith given like the Ninevites.
00:53:03.120but they will not have participated in the belief in christ as messiah post cross death
00:53:12.800resurrection of christ and so to me the fact that israel has not faded from history or the
00:53:17.960a jewish identity of some sort has not faded from history to me is the promise they will not just be
00:53:23.420represented through old testament looking ahead at christ my my point is that they will be
00:53:28.980represented by actually being allowed to continue through history until the time when they are
00:53:34.440brought in through actual, the post-millennial faith that we all hold. So that's my take.
00:53:39.640Yeah, I think that's entirely possible. I'd have to think about it. But I definitely think that
00:53:44.100every nation will be included. I like what you said in the sense of, you know, it's like,
00:53:49.240where are the Romans? Well, have you met an Italian? You know, like, you know, so even like
00:53:54.980nations in God's providence, you know, Acts says this, the book of Acts says that God sets both
00:53:59.860the times and borders of nations. And so nations come and go, they rise and fall. And God does all
00:54:05.860that according to his sovereign will. He sets the times and borders of nations. But even those
00:54:10.920nations that fall and that seemingly, as far as we know, are lost to the annals of history
00:54:17.000are still not utterly lost. Those people, those descendants, their posterity carries on somewhere.
00:54:24.620So even if it's a nation that doesn't have a unique identity anymore because it was conquered, still their children do live on, their posterity.
00:54:34.220So Rome, there is still a sense in which the culture and the nation of Rome has continued for 2,000 years.
00:54:41.460And Rome, by golly, Rome has been saved, I would argue, in many ways.
00:54:46.520that rome um i think of greece also but athens you know and and rome these two very powerful
00:54:53.660cities and cultures and peoples um both of them have been uh thoroughly christianized they were
00:54:59.180plundered right like the idea of like plundering the egyptians you know not to burn all the books
00:55:04.140but to see because all truth is god's truth and whatever is there that aligns because of common
00:55:08.580grace and people made in the image of god whatever aligns with god's truth would be preserved and
00:55:12.900would be illuminated and would be expanded upon. I think, you know, both Rome and Greece are two
00:55:17.640good examples of ancient civilizations that no longer exist in the way that they once did,
00:55:25.000but there is a continuation, even in our day, in modern times, of their culture and their
00:55:31.360posterity, their people intermarried now and mingled and mixed and all these things. But
00:55:36.340there's a very real sense in which both Greece and Rome have continued, and by golly, they've
00:55:43.220been won by Christ. They have been worked into this Christendom milieu of Western civilization
00:55:51.820that right now is in the process of apostasy. So there's a lot of work to be done. But yeah,
00:55:57.660so I'm saying, one, I think your theory is absolutely plausible, and two, even if it
00:56:05.260wasn't i think it'd be something you you know similar to that kind of scenario that there's
00:56:09.280still a sense in which this continued um maybe maybe not the way it is today maybe it's but it's
00:56:16.300it's freeing it's freeing to um you know because there's a lot of christians right now like if
00:56:21.680israel ever ceased their mind yeah well and if israel ever ceased to be a country they'd like
00:56:27.580uh they i i know some some christians that um would just about lose their faith yeah like i
00:56:33.560mean it would rock them to the core they would question the validity of scripture the inerrancy
00:56:38.360of god's word it's a good point like there's far too much writing on this this thing on the other0.64
00:56:45.040side of the world that so you know and and then you throw in you know um yeah so zionism has not0.52
00:56:53.480been good for christianity it has not been good for western civilization um it has not been good0.97
00:56:59.200for evangelicalism, it is, I can't think of any positive fruits. And so I would love to see in0.99
00:57:06.780our lifetimes, if God would be so kind, I would like to see Zionism die. I would like to see it1.00
00:57:13.820die, be buried, and never resurrect from the grave. Because it has no place in biblical0.99
00:57:19.980Christianity. And it's not good for anyone, including modern Jews. You're not saying there1.00
00:57:24.580couldn't be a point in which politically it would make sense to ally with a nation in the middle
00:57:30.600east of course right that's not um but you're saying separating that from the from the mandate
00:57:36.980to uphold god's promises from eschological prophecies and that we have like that's how a
00:57:42.840lot of americans speaker mike johnson yes speaker mike johnson was literally i mean it's just him
00:57:47.660some israel that guy is he's watching nicholas cage left behind you know like that guy like
00:57:56.340It's not calculated like this is financially good for the United States because of trade agreements.
00:58:01.440And we also, it's good for us to have an outpost, a Western outpost over there in the East in order to keep tabs on Iran so that they don't have too many nuclear bombs in order to achieve.
00:58:14.540The mindset is we are a Christian people and we all know that we love God even though he only partially loves us because we are the redheaded stepchild at the table that dad kind of loves, but he really loves.