The NXR Podcast - February 26, 2025


THE LIVESTREAM - It's Time For Men To Be Strong Again.


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The future of our nation depends on the strength of its young men, not just their moral strength, but their physical, mental, and spiritual toughness. For decades, masculinity has been under attack, dismissed as toxic, treated as disposable, or outright vilified. And yet, when danger looms, when families need protecting, when civilizations need building, it's strong men who answer the call. Some might argue that traditional masculinity is outdated, a relic of a bygone era that needs to be reformed, tamed, softened, and made more acceptable to modern sensibilities. But reality tells a different story. Our bodies are weaker. Our testosterone levels are plummeting. Yet, despite this, something is stirring. It s something to be ashamed of.

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00:00:26.800 I told you that the future of our nation depends on the strength of its young men,
00:00:33.180 not just their moral strength, but their physical, mental, and spiritual toughness.
00:00:38.620 For decades, masculinity has been under attack, dismissed as toxic,
00:00:43.660 treated as disposable, or outright vilified.
00:00:47.540 And yet, when danger looms, when families need protecting,
00:00:51.440 when civilizations need building, it's strong men who answer the call.
00:00:56.800 Some might argue that traditional masculinity is outdated, a relic of a bygone era that
00:01:03.620 needs to be reformed, tamed, softened, made more acceptable to modern sensibilities.
00:01:11.560 But reality tells a different story.
00:01:14.500 Our bodies are weaker.
00:01:16.500 Our testosterone levels are plummeting.
00:01:19.520 Young men are more depressed and directionless than ever before.
00:01:23.980 And yet, despite this, something is stirring.
00:01:28.080 Young men are waiting to be ashamed of.
00:01:36.500 It's something to be cultivated.
00:01:38.920 Masculinity is not the problem. 0.85
00:01:41.200 Weak men are the problem.
00:01:43.540 And the way forward is not in suppressing the strength of young men,
00:01:47.440 but in directing it toward what God designed them for.
00:01:51.040 leadership, protection, provision, and dominion. The man who is strong physically, spiritually,
00:01:59.420 emotionally, mentally, that is the man who builds, defends, and secures the future for his family
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00:02:33.840 we're so back welcome ga good afternoon incredible things are happening incredible
00:02:47.820 things are happening um here we are one incredible thing that's not happening though that we need to
00:02:51.860 announce right off uh the get-go here is that uh we alerted everyone on monday that we would have
00:02:59.060 uh nick freda's joining us and that's not going to happen unfortunately uh he reached out just
00:03:05.140 about two hours ago and said that he was taking a last minute flight to dc for some things going
00:03:10.480 down and uh so he's not going to be able to be on the show but he said he would love to reschedule
00:03:14.440 so we'll announce that whenever we get it squared away um but we're going forward with today's
00:03:19.200 topic uh michael is the one who outlined it for us and so we have everything squared away
00:03:23.480 to discuss the topic with or without nick so we're going to do it without him and hopefully
00:03:28.340 we'll be able to have him again in the future uh real quick uh while we have everyone's attention
00:03:33.100 i just want to remind you that our conference is right around the corner we're about five weeks
00:03:37.820 away go to right response conference.com right response conference.com we're really excited
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00:04:07.040 80 robles dusty deavers i think that might be it i think so i don't know a lot of guys
00:04:15.760 it's all the boys so uh come and meet us we're i mean basically it's just going to be a
00:04:21.520 three-day party we're just getting to uh spend time together a lot of relationship
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00:05:55.340 blessed by it. And I think it'll be a fair trade. Okay. So all that being said, we're going to talk
00:06:02.720 about manhood. And Michael is going to lead us off. Okay, great. Well, excited for this
00:06:09.480 conversation, gentlemen. And it's a theme that we've hit a couple times already, and always a
00:06:15.240 lot of good engagement with it, and it's a theme that we need to continue to hit going forward.
00:06:21.960 This idea of manhood, specifically looking at physical fitness, I think is how we'll gear it,
00:06:28.600 although physical fitness is part of overall discipline, right? And what we want is men who
00:06:36.960 are disciplined in all the areas that God has called them to exert dominion. So they need to
00:06:42.500 be physically disciplined. They need to be mentally disciplined. They need to be spiritually
00:06:45.820 disciplined. They need to be emotionally disciplined. Right. So it all works together
00:06:50.960 and we never want to treat a conversation like this as presenting the idea that the only thing
00:06:57.640 that matters is your physical health. We are unified beings. We're body and soul. We're body
00:07:02.600 and spirit. And just even body and spirit, I've thought about it in the past. It's this spirit
00:07:09.780 just kind of inside the shell of a body correct no they're they're intimately integrated organically
00:07:14.640 yes so you could never separate the two of them outside of death and the lord taking the spirit
00:07:18.760 to him in the interim before he brings the spirit and reunites with the body back again
00:07:22.760 in the resurrection it's one of the reasons why death is so unnatural right when you think about
00:07:27.460 the curse of death um the curse of sin is death but the the curse where god cursed adam and eve
00:07:34.240 two eventually die yes they died spiritually on that day but death is is a curse and totally
00:07:41.720 unnatural because it separates um the body from the spirit like you said wes which is
00:07:46.840 we don't even understand how that could be possible if you understand that the that the
00:07:52.340 human is an in an ensouled body right right to separate those two requires an act of god which
00:07:59.480 is another reason why God is sovereign even over death, which is a punishment and a condemnation
00:08:05.620 and a curse. And yet even there, it's not just, you know, an egg breaking open and the yolk and
00:08:11.860 the white leaking out. It is a miraculous. Death even is something of a miraculous thing. If a
00:08:19.900 miracle is a breaking of the regular laws, right, to separate the soul from the body, even there
00:08:27.200 is a supernatural deed that God does in the interim
00:08:30.600 while we wait for the resurrection of the body.
00:08:33.160 Right.
00:08:33.480 In terms of personhood, you are not someone who has a body.
00:08:37.700 Right.
00:08:38.060 You are your body.
00:08:38.920 Like when we go to a funeral and there's an open casket
00:08:41.140 and a loved one passes away,
00:08:44.000 we're able to look at our children and say,
00:08:47.720 that's grandma.
00:08:49.140 Right.
00:08:49.900 It's not just, oh, that's not grandma.
00:08:53.240 That's just her empty.
00:08:53.960 No, that's her. 0.93
00:08:54.920 That's her.
00:08:55.300 and um you you don't just have a body you are a body now you're not uh less than a body that's
00:09:01.720 what we're arguing but you are more than a body so not less you are a body but you're also a soul
00:09:08.240 both of those things are true and we know that from scripture that to be absent in the body is
00:09:14.060 to be present with the lord so we know that there will be an existence for all those who have fallen
00:09:19.420 to sleep in the Lord before his final physical return. We believe that Jesus is coming back
00:09:25.760 physically, that there will be a final culmination and end to all things, that things won't just
00:09:30.780 spiral forever and ever and ever and onward. We're partial preterists and not full preterists. And so
00:09:37.300 we do believe that there'll be a final end to human history, that Christ will return and there'll
00:09:42.840 be an interim period for all those who have fallen asleep in Christ. He hasn't returned yet. And so
00:09:47.900 the resurrection of their physical body has not yet happened their body is still here on earth
00:09:52.860 it's either buried under the ground being eaten by worms or it was lost at sea and eaten by fish
00:09:58.780 you know or or whatever um but that body and we recognize it's a miracle but we're talking about
00:10:05.660 the lord jesus and he's i think he can i think he can pull it off um but that body wherever it is
00:10:11.280 when he returns um all those particles all those atoms and it'll all come back and uh your body
00:10:19.260 that you're living in right now which is you it's not just something you possess but it's who you
00:10:24.100 are a significant piece of who you are um you will have that body a physical bodily existence with
00:10:31.220 the lord jesus christ upon his return resurrected glorified forever yeah and so to to think that
00:10:38.420 the body doesn't matter um is is to miss a a significant piece of um eternity right but we're
00:10:47.800 not going to just be spirits floating around on clouds the most that you can even begin to argue
00:10:53.140 that is again during an interim period from the point of death for those who are in christ and
00:10:58.080 the point of christ's final physical return that you know to be absent of the body is to be present
00:11:02.500 with the Lord. So we would reject soul sleep is what some have coined the term. So we don't think
00:11:10.820 that you'll just be unconscious for the next 50, 500, 5,000, whatever it is, however much longer
00:11:17.200 the Lord tarries. No, we think that you will be in spirit immediately upon death, present with the
00:11:25.260 Lord, with the conscience, you know, reality, with the Lord in heaven. And the body's not yet
00:11:31.940 resurrected, so at most, my point is that at most, you could have a body-less existence temporarily
00:11:38.300 as we're awaiting the final physical resurrection. But even that, there are arguments to be made of
00:11:46.100 an interim, not this body, waiting on that, and that that would be kind of a final and most
00:11:52.220 glorious eschaton that we're waiting for but there could be some kind of temporary physical
00:11:57.600 element of our existence with the lord and of course there could not be and i lean towards not
00:12:02.640 because that seems to be the more orthodox position but the point is that um the physical
00:12:08.700 body our physical existence is not just a vapor it's not just a moment it's an eternal reality
00:12:16.440 and um and it's it's integral to what it means to be human like that like like we will so let's
00:12:23.280 let's say that there's there is no inner you know intermediate physical state from dying and waiting
00:12:30.420 for christ and his final return to resurrect our physical body and rejoin our spirit with
00:12:35.700 that body let's say there there's no interim physical existence and so we are just our soul
00:12:41.100 present with the lord body list um well it's not going to be miserable because we'll be with the
00:12:46.200 Lord and Paul himself. He says, you know, for me to die, I'm even now ready to be poured out like
00:12:51.120 a drink offering. He knows that his death is right around the corner. And he recognizes and says that
00:12:56.380 that would be far better. So, even that temporary bodiless existence is still an improvement from
00:13:03.000 our, you know, our life here on earth as fallen creatures with the presence of sin and all these
00:13:09.720 different things um but there will be uh i think like a joyous celebration and even and even almost
00:13:17.820 like a like a a relief a sigh of relief when jesus does finally return resurrect our bodies and our
00:13:26.880 soul is rejoined re-knit with our bodies and we and we pick back up we resume that physical now
00:13:33.900 now glorified perfect physical existence with the lord in eternity that will be even better so better
00:13:40.620 to be present with the lord now than here on earth with the presence of sin and suffering all these
00:13:45.280 different things better to be present with the lord in spirit only for time temporarily than to
00:13:50.600 have the body here on earth but with sin and suffering and sickness and all these things
00:13:55.800 but even better to be present with the lord and rejoined to the body now glorified um that that
00:14:03.060 will be an even greater eschaton and even greater celebration that people you can all see like
00:14:09.440 souls that have been you know not certainly not miserable nobody's miserable in heaven but but
00:14:13.960 joyfully and you know enjoying the presence of the triune god in heaven and then rejoined to
00:14:21.700 their bodies and somehow some way it's difficult to put words to you know not all this is revealed
00:14:27.020 exactly or precisely in scripture but um it'll be even more joyful right yeah in the in the
00:14:33.580 in the same way that we can say that a thousand ten thousand years into the eternal state we will
00:14:40.980 be more joyful more content than we were when we began that is not to diminish the amount of joy
00:14:48.980 and contentment and bliss that we had at the beginning and that's the same uh thing that
00:14:54.300 you're saying there joel where um to become more um real as the way c.s lewis puts it in the great
00:15:00.720 divorce to be to be uh always becoming more and more real uh doesn't mean it's a weird it's a
00:15:08.660 paradoxical thing that you were not real in the beginning or not joyful in the beginning but it
00:15:14.400 just becomes more and more and increasingly so for all of eternity yeah that's right so what's
00:15:20.520 I was pretty happy with three kids, and then I was really happy with four, and even happier
00:15:25.140 now with five.
00:15:25.940 So it's not like I'm miserable now, but if the Lord is so kind and gives me a six, I'll
00:15:30.560 probably have some moments where I'm like, I can't even, like our, it just felt like
00:15:35.580 what were we even doing when we had, you know, five kids?
00:15:38.380 Right, right, right.
00:15:39.120 We had two.
00:15:40.020 Megan and I, we look, you know, we'll look at each other all the time, and we're like,
00:15:43.120 it's kind of two, we go back and forth between two thoughts.
00:15:45.940 One is we regularly will ask the question, we'll be looking at our five kids, and they're
00:15:49.080 all talking to us you know about their day and you know excited and you know jumping around and
00:15:53.400 playing and we'll look at each other sometimes and we'll be like when did this happen yep where did
00:15:59.100 these people come from right how does this happen it keeps happening we don't we're not sure we
00:16:02.640 haven't figured it out yet we don't know where children come from you know we keep trying to
00:16:05.620 find the storks you know uh so like so sometimes it's like how did this happen and not like a bad
00:16:10.200 thing but it was just like it was so quick i remember it was just me and you you know and i
00:16:14.300 felt like yesterday um so sometimes it's like how did this happen uh but then there's uh regularly
00:16:19.720 also moments where um you know like uh the kids will you know will you know do a date night or
00:16:27.120 something and the kids are with grandma and grandpa and we're like this is like i i'm enjoying
00:16:33.040 i enjoy taking my wife out on a date but it's like this is weird i miss our kids you know like it
00:16:40.000 just you leave the kids to talk about the kids that's right exactly it just feels yeah it feels
00:16:44.080 empty so yeah yeah well the reality is what we're driving at with all of these comments is god
00:16:50.580 created us to be in sold bodies right and so we are to take seriously the idea of our fitness and
00:16:59.140 our spiritual discipline and our physical discipline um and the reality is modern life
00:17:04.460 And I think this is how I want to talk about it.
00:17:08.080 It's easy to be extremely critical, but there are just realities of modern life.
00:17:14.260 And every generation and every time and every place has things that they need to think through uniquely.
00:17:19.740 That's why God calls us to be wise.
00:17:22.060 And one of the realities of modern life is that it tends to create environments,
00:17:27.140 especially in well-developed countries,
00:17:29.360 it tends to create environments and systems that lend to physical laziness and weakness.
00:17:38.880 We have a lot of modern conveniences.
00:17:41.380 We're not chopping wood.
00:17:42.560 If you have a fireplace, probably all you do is you turn it on.
00:17:46.380 It's a gas fireplace, right?
00:17:47.900 You're not having to chop wood for four months of the year to make sure you have enough wood
00:17:52.400 to get through the winter.
00:17:53.300 modern life it's just one of the realities tends to lead towards weakness and a kind of laziness
00:18:02.020 that previous generations did not experience simply because their survival was attached to
00:18:07.360 their physical activity right and so that's just something that we have to say okay well we can
00:18:11.900 criticize all we want but we can we just have to say that is a reality of the modern times and it's
00:18:17.180 something that we have to think about just real quick somebody said uh philip in the chat said
00:18:21.500 no lie i kid you not i had a good friend quote paul one time saying i count my weakness as strength
00:18:27.080 as a reason why he doesn't go to the gym and why he thinks that others shouldn't either
00:18:31.840 skull face skull face skull face uh that is the correct uh reaction philip well done um your
00:18:38.200 friend is um is a midwit and uh we can pray for him and encourage him in loving ways and also 0.90
00:18:44.500 in some mocking ways and say hey that's a that's a bad take yep let's not do that go ahead so 1.00
00:18:51.320 it's interesting now um in high income countries 20 percent six percent of men and 35 percent of
00:19:00.420 women are not getting the recommended amount of physical activity 26 so this is something that
00:19:07.580 i added so i don't have a graph for it i'm sorry um but in high income countries 26 percent of men
00:19:15.560 and 35 percent of women are not getting enough physical activity but when you compare that to
00:19:21.360 low-income countries only 12 percent of men and 24 percent of women are not getting enough
00:19:27.700 physical activity okay the point being modern society that's just what i said yeah lens to
00:19:32.120 lens towards apathy weakness um sitting around sedentary lifestyles all of that which is a trend
00:19:38.640 to like in uh children for example like individuals that are more wealthy and of higher socioeconomic
00:19:43.040 status typically have less children and those that are of lower socioeconomic status generally
00:19:47.980 not of course every single instance typically have more and in a life that is high status it
00:19:54.160 typically has all the conveniences afforded to it it's tough for people to voluntarily take on
00:19:59.480 suffering to take the walk and then to say we're going to go for four five six children this is a
00:20:04.940 pattern that you've always had to deal with because you create a system of prosperity there's a lot
00:20:09.200 to go around there's a lot of convenience but then that begets the softness and the weakness
00:20:13.340 that leads to the difficulty and the lower status and ultimately takes you down a peg yeah it's like
00:20:18.300 a cycle that keeps going on yep um so in compared to in comparison to other developed countries
00:20:26.080 america tends to have much less activity part of it is the size of our country and most people
00:20:33.120 live quite far from where they work or where they buy their groceries or where they do their
00:20:37.720 activities and so they drive uh european countries since they're so much smaller people tend to walk
00:20:43.520 or they'll take a bus um and so there's just a lot more activity built into society in other
00:20:49.100 first world countries and in the u.s i mean here in texas we talk about driving 40 minutes somewhere
00:20:55.920 and it's like yeah it's not too bad not too bad it's not far yeah that's what we do in texas we
00:20:59.960 drive but like when i lived in taiwan driving 40 minutes was like a whole nother city like it was
00:21:06.180 Nobody would do that, like, if you didn't have to.
00:21:08.780 So in 1950, 30% of Americans worked physically demanding jobs.
00:21:15.620 So this is just the last 70 years.
00:21:17.220 By 2000, that number had dropped to 23%.
00:21:20.320 And then low-activity jobs in that time period increased from 23% of the work to 41% of the
00:21:28.340 work available.
00:21:28.880 So we've just seen with machines and modern life, less physically demanding jobs and less
00:21:35.980 people doing physically demanding jobs right nate let's go to quote number one this is from
00:21:42.380 um men's men's health and they're talking about modern life and they say modern life is less
00:21:49.840 physically demanding for many this starts in school where daily pe is no longer the norm
00:21:54.780 and continues in the workplace and then uh there's there's what i quoted um by 2000 that
00:22:00.320 proportion had dropped to 23 percent according to research from the st louis university school
00:22:04.780 public of health. So there we go. Modern life just lends itself to being less active and less
00:22:11.200 productive. And we can talk about how we should all go back to the good old days, but the reality is
00:22:16.620 most people are not going to be chopping their wood. It's just not going to happen. And so we
00:22:22.380 have to come up with Christian solutions to these problems. American strength training is at an
00:22:28.900 all-time low only about 30 percent of adults meet the recommended guidelines for resistance training
00:22:35.100 and 57.8 percent of americans get this 57 percent of americans report no strength training of any
00:22:43.860 kind at all part of their life the risk ratio so when you come uh go to strength training and then
00:22:50.020 all cause mortality so that's that's cancer that's car accidents any cause of mortality and then with
00:22:55.180 strength training the greater amount of muscle mass you have the they're called risk ratios in
00:22:59.460 science like the greater relative risk of dying to something the numbers are off the charts when
00:23:04.280 it comes to muscle mass and strength decreasing your risk of dying from anything so it's not as
00:23:10.040 though like well if you have a lot of muscle mass you'll avoid death from car accidents because
00:23:13.560 you'll be able to survive them more no it's cancer if you have to go through chemotherapy you have
00:23:17.480 more muscle mass that's able to endure through it every single possible means by which you could die
00:23:22.560 is aided and staved off at some level the more within reason muscle mass that you have which is
00:23:28.980 built by typically strength training or a very active lifestyle right yep um okay so just a
00:23:35.560 couple more things here to round out this section of what the situation is in modern life particularly
00:23:40.480 in america um okay so nate let's take a look at graph number one here so this is um average
00:23:48.880 self-reported weight among u.s adults from 1990 to 2023 so what's on the screen here is a graph
00:23:55.120 and it shows um by year what people reported their weight being and so the green one and
00:24:04.260 the blue one are really the ones that you that are interesting there um people are actually
00:24:09.060 reporting that they're much skinnier than they used to and much fatter than they used to but
00:24:13.340 the green one is really interesting to me because this is the number of adults who report their
00:24:19.020 weight being over 200 pounds. And originally on, it's 1980, 1990, that was pretty low. And now by
00:24:28.940 2023, that line is just going up and up and up. It looks like a stock line of a booming stock a
00:24:36.040 little bit um here's the irony though okay so as more and more people are actually overweight over
00:24:43.660 200 pounds and and again like i'm not whatever you could be very tall fine for the average person
00:24:49.080 yeah um but as that actual number has gone up the irony is that um oh where's my quote here
00:24:58.480 shoot i lost the quote but the the the the irony that the article reports is that people's
00:25:08.060 perception of themselves as fat or thin has almost gone the exact inverse really and so as people are
00:25:15.480 objectively more overweight their reported identity of are you obese are you fat would you consider
00:25:21.720 yourself fat would you consider yourself skinny has almost gone the exact opposite direction in
00:25:26.560 the last decade or so that's exactly like iq that's i mean the studies show that like yeah
00:25:32.580 basically like um if you have a lower iq you know you tend to think i have a really high iq literally
00:25:38.940 the dunning-kruger effect has been studied of the lower bands of smart of dumber people and they
00:25:44.600 think they perceive themselves right people that aren't as good at driving yeah i'm a pretty good
00:25:48.820 driver i'm better than average well 70 of people are saying they're better than average that's
00:25:52.780 right it's not quite possible same thing with iq math doesn't matter and with weight you know let
00:25:57.380 me say this too on body fat percentage so objectively body fat percentage is just a
00:26:02.160 measure of the percent of your weight that could be attributed to your visceral fat that is a huge
00:26:06.860 marker again for health so 20 is where you start getting into where it affects hormones like
00:26:11.340 testosterone and things like that this is where for some guys you'll you'll kind of look skinny
00:26:15.380 fat so you maybe would only be six foot you'd be 210 pounds but ultimately like you're just there's
00:26:21.040 no definition to your muscle and everything like that so especially if you're above 20 we can get
00:26:26.040 into some specifics later on you're going to want to you're going to want to be active and you're
00:26:30.520 going to want to do things that are going to decrease that body fat that's part of diet that's
00:26:34.000 part of exercise it's also just moving generally more 17 16 15 those are good ranges for males to
00:26:41.660 be in once you get lower than that that's only you're maybe a bodybuilder you're doing some type
00:26:45.260 of competition you can also go too extreme on the other end right being seven eight percent body
00:26:49.400 fat your diet would be so extreme to maintain that it would just it would not be conducive
00:26:52.980 to life it's also not as good for you but generally speaking as a man just look up what
00:26:58.060 does 20 body fat look like what does 25 body fat look like and if you're identifying with
00:27:02.480 some of those higher metrics for your health you need to bring it down for your testosterone for
00:27:07.040 your sleep for your energy for your focus your body fat is killer the more you're holding on
00:27:12.660 the more weight that's giving on your bones on your structure on your nervous system all that 0.60
00:27:17.380 yeah and so i'm i'm working downwards right now and to be honest you know my wife's like
00:27:24.820 telling me these kind of stats that west west is saying it's like it's bad on your bones it's bad
00:27:29.340 on your joints but okay great great great and then she says fat is where estrogen is stored
00:27:34.200 oh boy five alarm fire
00:27:38.640 so yeah what west says is 100 right yeah and then literally just go google and you will see like
00:27:46.560 Different comparisons, 15%, 16%, 17%, because it costs a decent amount of money to actually get scanned, or should you probably do that.
00:27:53.640 But generally speaking, if you can look yourself in the mirror or ask your spouse, honey, be honest, and, again, you're at some of those higher levels, that's the sign to go, ah, this needs to come down.
00:28:02.280 And then if you really care that much for a baseline, you can go to your YMCA or something and get an actual DEXA scan or something like that.
00:28:07.840 Yeah, good.
00:28:08.740 One last graph that I wanted to show, just kind of showing what is the trends in America.
00:28:15.460 Okay, so Nate, this is that second graph that I texted in.
00:28:19.100 This is participant rate, participation rate in fitness sports.
00:28:22.520 Now, again, this is not necessarily all a comprehensive picture of fitness,
00:28:28.580 but fitness sports, people who do jogging or running or working out
00:28:33.260 or biking or playing tennis or things like that.
00:28:36.160 And so this is by generation.
00:28:37.660 So the boomers, about 64% of them report some sort of fitness sport.
00:28:42.300 It's almost exactly the same with Gen X.
00:28:44.280 and still millennials are the highest about 70 percent of them report some sort of fitness sport
00:28:50.220 and then gen z is um is moving upwards um gen z is well they're the lowest but there's a caveat
00:28:59.680 there in that i think that they're the ones that are are increasing the the quickest um gen z and
00:29:06.500 gen x are are quickly going to be overtaking the other groups in their fitness care and and value
00:29:13.280 of being fit and healthy with their with their bodies so that's kind of the picture of where we 0.99
00:29:18.700 are now in the u.s in modern life and when we come back for our commercial break we're going to talk
00:29:24.740 about are there some signs of change um and are there any positive steps that are being taken
00:29:30.940 and then uh and then we'll we'll hit section three where we'll talk about where we go from here
00:29:36.540 and take questions i'll just add to that so big picture for this segment you get kind of it's a
00:29:42.320 Pick three, pick two of them.
00:29:43.840 So good eating, sedentary job, sedentary lifestyle, and physical fitness, like actually going to the gym.
00:29:51.180 You can cheat on, you need to have at least two, as in you need to have some type of active lifestyle and eat well.
00:29:56.520 And say you do those things, you don't actually have to go to the gym.
00:29:59.640 Same thing if you go to the gym and you eat well.
00:30:01.640 Well, you could actually have a sedentary job, you work from home or whatever, but it's when you start to stack up all three.
00:30:06.120 I work a sedentary job and I don't eat well.
00:30:09.220 I work a sedentary job and I don't go to the gym.
00:30:11.420 just eating well enough if you're just not even burning that many calories it's just even if
00:30:16.300 you're eating well at the same time it's just right i don't burn enough calories that that's
00:30:19.780 actually not going to start accumulating to fat so out of the three working out and going to the gym
00:30:24.420 being active daily as part of your job being on your feet and eating well you gotta have at least
00:30:29.700 two broadly speaking and again those are not clear exact categories sometimes you may move for your
00:30:34.880 work more than other but don't start getting into well i've only got one of these i have zero i
00:30:40.360 don't i'm sedentary i don't go to the gym and i don't even eat well that just mathematically right
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00:32:26.020 all right welcome back we want to dive into not just doom and gloom we try and white pill at every
00:32:36.300 possible uh chance here on this show and sometimes on wednesdays i was gonna say
00:32:41.480 sometimes we're white pillin when uh when maybe we should not be that's okay that's that's okay
00:32:47.420 if you work with joel uh at all uh life is is is one white pill after another for joel so
00:32:53.480 that's true so a couple of things about uh gen z and even gen x a little bit but gen z mostly okay
00:33:02.300 um are we seeing a shift is is america working on becoming more healthy more fit i think
00:33:11.480 generally speaking the conversation is much more uh part of the public discourse right even with
00:33:18.160 the RFK and his Maha movement and him trying to work on diet and the things that we put
00:33:24.400 in our body, the chemicals, all of these things, it is definitely something that is more on
00:33:29.260 the consciousness, the public consciousness, the public discourse than it has been in a
00:33:33.320 really long time.
00:33:35.400 In fact, I remember I've traveled a couple of times in my life as an adult, and I remember
00:33:41.760 what a shock it was going to some other countries, both in Asia and in Europe, where people were
00:33:47.340 very interested in health they were getting out in the morning they were running they were doing
00:33:51.260 stretching they were doing things like that or or in italy um people just they were they didn't
00:33:56.960 want to drive places they wanted to walk to me i think that in the u.s this is becoming more and
00:34:01.360 more common right the young people especially not just in the i'm going to be a 16 year old guy and
00:34:07.700 i'm getting a buff to impress the girls but um just in general it's it's more part of the public
00:34:14.220 discourse um so like a great example is andrew huberman's podcast he started it around 2020
00:34:20.020 around covid and it's rapidly become one of the most well listened to podcasts in the world under
00:34:24.820 ours of course but uh literally people's interest not in like 10 15 20 years just in the last five
00:34:30.960 if not the last three i'm sitting there for three hours a professor of neuroscience talking about
00:34:35.380 getting sunlight early on in the morning and the effects of muscle mass that's where i've heard
00:34:39.640 part of that emotional regulation hormone health people have gotten really really really into it
00:34:44.320 which i think is an awesome thing but that's some grounding some grounding touching grass
00:34:49.480 getting good sleep it gives a lot of great info i don't know if you guys know this but a guy that
00:34:53.240 goes to our church is is writing a book on health and nutrition right now and i read the first draft
00:34:57.440 and it's got a lot of really practical like the sunlight thing in the morning yep he really
00:35:00.920 hammers hard on that like did i know that i don't know i don't think kevin is oh nice yeah so cool
00:35:06.420 And it's great. It's really, really practical. And when it comes out, you guys should get it because it's not long. And I was just amazed at how practical it was.
00:35:15.220 Cool. 0.94
00:35:15.840 Okay, so what's going on with Gen Z? Well, Nate, I don't have this on the screen, so don't be scrambling. I just added this when we found out about Mr. Freitas. 0.78
00:35:27.140 So this is a report from Fortune Magazine.
00:35:30.940 ABC Fitness says Gen Zers are more invested in their physical and mental health.
00:35:35.280 29% of new gym joiners are Gen Zers, and 30% of Gen Z respondents use traditional health clubs.
00:35:42.720 Gen Z is more apt to seek out personal trainers or coaches by 38% than the general population.
00:35:48.320 Though ABC Trainers has seen, this particular group, has seen a 78% increase in personal training clients year over year.
00:35:56.480 um they also index higher in recreational sports and small group training however and this is
00:36:02.140 really interesting to me the majority of gen z respondents 68 of them still opt to work out on
00:36:07.940 their own um so it's not just they're doing it to be part of a club or to be with their friends or
00:36:14.840 peer groups uh 68 of them are just committed to doing this as a lifestyle right yep um and that's
00:36:20.300 that is encouraging that is encouraging and the gen z cutoff this is up to about 28 years old
00:36:24.740 ourselves if you're listening like wait what am i if you're 29 and older into your early 40s that
00:36:28.880 would be millennial than gen x but uh 28 and under that would be gen z so maybe a couple kids at most
00:36:34.400 but mostly younger individuals newly married etc here's the only catch with that is um one of the
00:36:41.280 reasons why gen z is much more active is they're spending a lot more money on um fitness products
00:36:49.760 and subscriptions and so wes and i were talking before the episode started of if this is a chicken
00:36:53.900 or an egg thing.
00:36:54.760 And it's not even really bad if it's one or the other.
00:36:57.900 People are getting healthier.
00:36:59.820 Just the question is, is this a product of the market realizing people are interested
00:37:04.900 in this, so we're going to make apps and podcasts and subscription services for them?
00:37:11.080 Or did the younger generation become more interested in this, and so it drove the market?
00:37:17.400 My opinion is it's a net win if people are getting healthy.
00:37:21.120 We are all susceptible to advertising.
00:37:23.020 we need to be aware of it, but that doesn't mean that all advertising or even propaganda or
00:37:27.700 colloquial sayings are necessarily bad. I remember talking once with Stephen Wolf about the fact
00:37:34.780 that he said, we need to reclaim the aphorisms of the nation. And it used to be the aphorisms
00:37:40.520 were aphorisms of wisdom. A penny saved is a penny earned, and an apple a day keeps the doctor away.
00:37:45.140 And he said, now the popular wisdom of America is dumb trivialities.
00:37:51.460 Well, so maybe the market has convinced young people that they need to be healthier and fitter.
00:37:57.600 And maybe there's some advertising or some psychology or some behind-the-scenes manipulation going on there.
00:38:03.180 I'm okay with that, right?
00:38:04.620 If we're getting healthier, we're getting fitter.
00:38:06.580 I would say it doesn't require rocket science.
00:38:10.780 It doesn't require, you know, buying always the next latest, greatest thing.
00:38:15.340 Like just be active, do strength training, watch your diet, eat healthy food.
00:38:19.980 There is a sense where people can go too far.
00:38:22.220 They can spend a lot more money than they need to on it.
00:38:25.060 But even if they are, like if they have the disposable income and they're spending it on that, honestly, not the end of the world.
00:38:31.740 We've talked about the studies before too, though.
00:38:33.720 So they've taken control groups of different individuals across the political spectrum, very conservative, somewhat conservative, very progressive, somewhat progressive, and an administration of testosterone in men introduced what the study author said was a red shift, that their policies became less progressive and lean more, obviously not from socialist all the way to the far right, but inducing testosterone, raising a man's testosterone literally affects his ability to go against the status quo, to question the zeitgeist of the moment.
00:39:03.160 it makes it more conservative so if on average take body fat for instance like being strong
00:39:09.000 makes him more conservative being right being strong being healthy being a man on average you
00:39:14.460 take a man here and he gets healthier stronger on average every single case like well i have you
00:39:21.160 know a family member who's a bodybuilder and he's a lib in general on average if you take down men's
00:39:26.520 body fat their average body body fat percentage and it's lower so their hormone health is better
00:39:31.480 so they have higher testosterone you introduce to them strength training and on average more than
00:39:35.640 strength training you will see population and voting block shifts like we we know this and so
00:39:42.120 we know if on average a group of people they get healthier over a couple years covid locks them
00:39:46.520 indoors they get fat sick and unhealthy they hate how they feel they hate the pre-diabetes
00:39:50.920 and they say that's it i don't even care if i'm alone i'm going to the gym like there's actually 0.71
00:39:55.000 ramifications down the road of how those people vote and the things that they support their
00:39:59.400 their willingness to say, eh, the emperor has no clothes,
00:40:01.640 I'm not down with that.
00:40:02.780 Like, that's why this all matters, and it's all interconnected.
00:40:05.100 This is not just an isolated bubble of, well, look better
00:40:08.720 because maybe you'll find a more attractive spouse,
00:40:10.740 or look better because your clothes will feel better.
00:40:13.400 No, this is intimately connected because healthy people
00:40:15.840 support healthy policies and healthier lifestyles
00:40:19.420 and ultimately are better members of society.
00:40:22.180 I think that's a really good point that you bring up, Wes,
00:40:24.360 because, you know, I try and give the benefit of the doubt. 0.99
00:40:27.160 I'm the one that's the closest to the boomers, right? 0.99
00:40:29.400 So I try and give the benefit of the doubt whenever I can. 0.99
00:40:32.020 Not that close.
00:40:32.500 Not that much closer.
00:40:34.480 But I think about like when my father grew up, when he was a young man, he didn't need
00:40:40.480 a lot of training in masculinity.
00:40:43.200 He didn't need a lot of training in what it means to be physically fit.
00:40:47.940 He was very active just because that was life back then.
00:40:51.280 And men back then acted like men.
00:40:53.960 and so i think for a lot of boomers when they think about working out or going to a gym the
00:41:00.180 only reason they can ascribe that someone would do that is out of vanity or to get the girl or
00:41:05.300 that sort of thing and what we're saying is no no no no like this is actually part of being a
00:41:10.900 a robust person being not just um a slob and a cog in the wheel but being uh as as the as the
00:41:20.320 puritans would have put it like living in the freedom that the gospel brings us as christian
00:41:23.980 men like christian men are called to be free and part of that what we're saying is that means we
00:41:29.820 have to take steps that previous generations didn't have to take we have to do things like
00:41:33.540 work out and make that part of our routine or go to the gym or do some sort of thing which in the
00:41:38.440 past they would have said like well you can be healthy just with life right and maybe that was
00:41:42.560 true but the point is that's not the case and and to wes's point um i i don't know it would be
00:41:48.920 interesting to do an episode some week on this idea, Wes, of how much of the social programming
00:41:56.040 that's gone on in America has been designed to make Americans fat and lazy. I don't know if
00:42:02.360 you've done any research on that. If you have, you can talk about it. If not, we'll save it.
00:42:05.880 But it certainly seems like, whether it was by design or not, the powers that be have the citizens
00:42:13.200 of the U.S. in a place where they are so apathetic and fat and out of shape that they can't imagine
00:42:20.240 what life ought to be like if they were doing hard things and challenging themselves and 0.64
00:42:26.260 active and full of the amount of testosterone that they should have. 0.96
00:42:31.760 Even for women, they should have a little bit or full of the estrogen that women should 0.99
00:42:35.100 have, not doing all the manly things. 1.00
00:42:37.600 It seems like what has happened, whether by design or just by, you know, happenstance 0.63
00:42:43.020 in God's providence, is we have become a people who are so lazy and so fat that we
00:42:48.440 can't even imagine desiring strong nations, strong culture, godly practices and habits
00:42:57.800 throughout our body politic.
00:43:00.080 So I have an example of this that we're going to look at here in a minute, but any comments
00:43:04.120 on that before we go to the example?
00:43:05.280 i just for men it just we're talking about men this episode it comes back to testosterone
00:43:09.260 like that's risk so like a man could imagine a world where he says i don't want this in my town
00:43:14.640 like i don't want this casino coming in i don't want this this bar i don't want this that or the
00:43:18.540 other i'm going to buck the status quo those are risks and risk is a function at some level not
00:43:23.740 literally the only measure of it but uh it's a measure of testosterone men with higher testosterone
00:43:28.620 are then men that are more willing to take risks so you take a man that's placated that isn't
00:43:32.980 healthy and that is a man who won't risk thinking i should go against the status quo or i think that's
00:43:38.700 stupid and i should call it out like at a biological chemical level he's less disposed and again courage
00:43:44.420 is also a spiritual component but it's helped by i mean richard the lionheart he like he of course 1.00
00:43:50.220 had a spirit and vigor and vitality and he was trained in war right right and he had confidence
00:43:56.940 and courage to do it and so you you take that that physical component out and you you castrate
00:44:01.920 men and you just sedate them and of course they're not even going to imagine and think to
00:44:06.560 the dreams and the risks that they could take including like disagreeing with the government
00:44:12.400 right right you know like pushing back against elites and all those you know it's just like
00:44:19.040 to pass laws where they make where everybody you know gets high and everybody you know is just as
00:44:25.280 a you know they're apathetic they're not working out they're not active they're you know smoking
00:44:30.480 they're watching Netflix, the water, you know,
00:44:35.540 even our drinking water is like, is, you know,
00:44:38.240 giving us more estrogen and all these different things.
00:44:41.200 And, and then, yeah.
00:44:43.080 And then you can just kind of like force down policy,
00:44:46.040 more and more progressive policy and no one,
00:44:49.280 no one's going to push back.
00:44:50.740 Like we really were like our whole society really was
00:44:53.860 in many ways, the frog that was slowly boiling for decades,
00:44:56.980 you know, in the water. 0.99
00:44:58.420 And getting gay. 0.90
00:44:59.420 yeah the frogs actually became gay and so did americans but like but you know the water's 0.77
00:45:04.240 slowly heating up and the frog is being you know boiled alive and doesn't even realize it because
00:45:08.240 the temperature is changing you know ever so slightly and you know our elites you know they
00:45:13.920 they were doing a pretty good job for you know the last 40 years and arguably longer and then
00:45:19.180 you know their kind of quintessential mistake was in 2020 they got cocky you know and they
00:45:26.140 said all right you know like we're already at like 160 degrees let's go ahead and just
00:45:31.760 turn it up to let's full send to 210 yeah to 212 and like um and we'll and we'll get this done and
00:45:39.220 you know and and it did work for about half the country like the nerve endings were already shot
00:45:43.560 you know and the frogs were just you know they were basically dead anyways and so they put on
00:45:47.920 you know three masks and you know got 17 different boosters and you know and you know they did they 0.76
00:45:53.960 did the the gay thing but but about half of the country to varying degrees not not all with the
00:45:59.740 same you know measure of courage but to some degree or another about half the country said 0.62
00:46:04.540 wait a second this is this is insane um they still had some nerve endings and they actually
00:46:10.780 felt that temperature bump you know from 160 to 212 and um and i don't you know i'm not saying
00:46:17.580 like like west has already you know we've given the disclaimers and the caveats we're not saying
00:46:21.200 it's an exact science right we're not saying you can't find one fat conservative and we're not
00:46:26.580 saying you can find many unfortunately unfortunately yeah but um not unfortunate that they're
00:46:31.340 conservative but unfortunately that they're fat because we'd like them to be conservative and
00:46:34.720 and healthy but and live long because we'd like them to live yeah exactly we love them um but
00:46:39.440 on the flip side you know like you can find you know plenty of people who are progressive and
00:46:44.060 they're in shape um maybe not plenty but but some yeah especially farther along than that
00:46:51.320 well especially also i think for women um women and gay men tend to have want to have that
00:46:58.180 perception of being you know fit and um work out but what i was gonna say for like liberal women
00:47:04.780 it's it's almost like i don't know it feels like there's like some kind of there should be a chart
00:47:08.720 that shows like with every pound added,
00:47:15.120 like another quarter inch of the hair is cut back.
00:47:19.500 Oh, yes, yes. 1.00
00:47:20.680 The fatter a woman gets, the shorter her hair gets. 0.99
00:47:23.500 And then it also begins to turn like a bright orange or magenta 0.99
00:47:29.020 or a green or a purple, which I appreciate.
00:47:32.100 That's even God in his, I think, his kindness and mercy in nature,
00:47:35.860 like poison dart frogs.
00:47:37.300 They're really colorful.
00:47:38.280 and so you know that they're dangerous well liberals likewise you know they put you know
00:47:42.280 poison dart frog you know color in their hair so that you know i'm toxic i'm dangerous stay away 0.99
00:47:46.920 don't touch me because you'll die i appreciate that overweight women do vote democrat more 1.00
00:47:51.240 often so again there are women that maybe you know if they're struggling with weight but they 0.83
00:47:54.280 would they're conservative god bless but on average women are overweight vote for democrat 0.98
00:48:01.000 yeah there are exceptions but on on average yeah people who are who are healthy um
00:48:08.280 healthy bodies tend to tend to you know come in a pair with a healthy mind you know and that's
00:48:15.740 that's the whole point that we're saying and and the only reason we talk about these things just
00:48:19.800 for the record because people are like haven't you done like a number of episodes on a similar
00:48:24.420 topic and the answer is yes and lord willing we'll continue to do so and continue to provide
00:48:29.720 more and more information and get better and better and more compelling as we do it but the
00:48:33.300 the reason why we're doing this like if it was the 1950s i don't think we'd be doing this right
00:48:38.420 right you know what i mean like like we wouldn't be podcasting you know but there's a lot of things
00:48:42.800 we wouldn't be doing but um but let's say you know like we were you know radio show you know
00:48:47.740 host or something like that we probably wouldn't be doing you know multiple episodes on this
00:48:52.340 subject the reason why we do it is because um not necessarily among conservatives but within the
00:48:59.280 church and especially for evangelicals it's an epidemic of um a like a overly spiritualized
00:49:09.840 pietistic uh even like smug kind of talking down to like attitude towards physical fitness like
00:49:18.620 you talk about like you say hey on average just in a general sense i think men should be strong
00:49:23.680 And immediately you'll get backlash from boomer pastors who are 100 pounds overweight saying, well, a strong man, masculinity and then what true biblical masculinity is. 0.58
00:49:37.560 And then immediately you can bet the house that what's about to come out of his mouth when he says true biblical masculinity is a definition that your Christian grandmother should embody.
00:49:50.800 it's it's a generic ambiguous um kind of controlled kind yeah a true biblical manhood
00:49:57.920 is kindness and love it's like yes but also um we're not androgynous creatures we like we're not
00:50:06.840 just we're not just embodied souls we god created a world with distinctions and there is a a sharp
00:50:14.300 distinction between male and female and and and both the man and woman are called to godliness
00:50:20.900 what we're saying though is that godliness looks different this is why i love the last two chapters
00:50:26.120 of ephesians um the latter half of chapter five and then chapter six especially but paul you know
00:50:32.300 we always say we need to think in categories well here we have in new testament you know apostolic
00:50:37.120 writing we have the apostle paul um teaching us in categories and so he's like here's a category
00:50:44.680 Male, female, husband, wife.
00:50:47.320 Husband, godliness looks like this. 0.86
00:50:49.960 Wife, godliness, well, godliness is a one-size-fits-all.
00:50:53.240 It looks exactly the same.
00:50:54.380 No, no, that's not what he, a godly husband, sacrificial love,
00:50:59.400 laying his life down as Christ, willingness to do so as Christ laid his life down for the church.
00:51:04.920 And then, you know, what does godliness look like for the wife?
00:51:08.480 Well, same thing, sacrificial love.
00:51:10.580 And so a godly Christian woman, she, you know, she goes and fights a war in Ukraine.
00:51:14.480 You know, no, submission.
00:51:16.820 It's distinct, right?
00:51:18.100 It's both, in both cases, it's godliness.
00:51:21.480 But godliness is as expressed through men, has a different manifestation and different
00:51:27.420 tangible applications and implications than godliness for a woman.
00:51:31.460 And then he talks about children and adults, parents, and then, you know, another two more
00:51:36.740 categories.
00:51:37.280 And then he looks at slaves and masters, you know, and, you know, still even with our culture today, we can talk about those who, you know, those who are the, you know, the owner of a company versus employees, you know, or owner of property versus, you know, a tenant and like that nature of relationship.
00:51:57.200 But the point is that in each of these categories, male, female, husband, wife, adult, child, parents, and children, and slave master or employees and, you know, employers and employees, the Apostle Paul, the general theme is godliness for all of them, all six of these categories, godliness.
00:52:17.340 And yet godliness in all six of these categories is distinct.
00:52:21.240 It's unique.
00:52:21.980 It's not androgynous.
00:52:23.060 It's not just one size fits all.
00:52:25.460 And back to the point I was making today, I really think that not just among conservatives in a general sense, but specifically among the church and especially older pastors, they, I mean, the moment that you say that, you know, manhood has anything, anything to do with something tangible, something defined, something specific and something physical in the physical world,
00:52:54.620 something beyond just the fruit of the spirit in a general abstract kind of way the moment you say
00:53:01.160 well i think it's good if a man knows how to change a tire he's like well that's that's vain
00:53:07.600 that's shallow that's my true you know true godly man manliness is uh if you get a flat tire on the
00:53:14.640 side of the highway and cars are speeding by a true godly christian man will open up his bible
00:53:20.540 app on his phone and began to read scripture to his family you know it's like yeah but it'd be
00:53:25.500 great if he could also change the tire instead of to call triple a yeah so anyways yeah i i was
00:53:31.520 going to say like on that in the 1950s we wouldn't be having this conversation i remember talking to
00:53:35.540 a guy from church we were just driving he said you know i never really had anyone need to teach
00:53:39.440 me like men are the head of their wives like there really is a time and place where you would not
00:53:44.180 have to teach on patriarchy and you wouldn't have to teach on physical fitness the reason we're
00:53:48.700 talking about them today for all the reasons you just mentioned Joel in this particular time in
00:53:53.000 this particular place not everybody maybe not even the majority but there's a good amount of
00:53:57.780 individuals in the church somewhere along the line it got missed and so you have to say hey
00:54:03.120 40 years ago we did not have to tell anyone we didn't have to tell women or men husbands are the
00:54:07.200 head wives are to submit in the home we didn't have to tell them hey you shouldn't be 40 50 60
00:54:12.140 pounds overweight legitimately did not have to say that but today there are those saying it doesn't
00:54:17.000 matter. It's not a difference. If you go back and you watch the original Willy Wonka and the
00:54:23.260 Chocolate Factory, it kind of startles me a little bit because I remember I'd watched that movie as
00:54:29.060 a child. And then a number of years ago, I played the movie for my two older kids. And I had not
00:54:38.240 seen the movie. I had not even thought about it for decades. And it shocked me that the kid that
00:54:43.720 they have in the movie who's the fat kid who can't stop eating candy looked like normal kids
00:54:48.960 running yeah i know right like i was like oh my word and it was kind of that moment i was like wow
00:54:54.120 we really do have a problem yeah every now and then you'll see like on uh social media or x or
00:54:58.720 something you'll see a picture of uh george costanza you know and that's not even that long
00:55:03.580 ago like 90s and they'll say this was comically comically fat right in the 90s right you know
00:55:09.440 Yep.
00:55:10.820 Nate, feel free to go ahead and push enter on that comment.
00:55:16.560 You had a banger.
00:55:17.020 Yeah, I thought it was a great comment, Nate.
00:55:18.520 Nathan's over there.
00:55:19.460 He's tempted to address somebody in the chat,
00:55:22.940 but I give you my full permission.
00:55:25.560 Let the lib know.
00:55:28.260 All right.
00:55:28.560 I'll hit this question just from Leigh.
00:55:29.960 She said, you should research the public water supply,
00:55:32.340 all of the pharmaceuticals, including birth control pills,
00:55:34.680 abortifacients, hormones, and essentially all drugs
00:55:37.100 are too small to be removed.
00:55:38.160 that's absolutely the case in many ways as we remember with uh the golden talked about that
00:55:43.240 with the hormonal birth control pill our sin of hormonal birth control which is a sin the hormonal
00:55:48.740 birth control pill it often gets into the water supply through waste and also through being
00:55:53.520 flushed down and it gets in and it's retaken back up and it's very toxic especially to men but also
00:55:59.500 to women at a hormonal level and so it's a judgment for our sins that's coming back to us and the way
00:56:05.100 get around that you should be filtering the water that comes in your home if you have any control
00:56:08.860 of it at all especially with what you drink we have you know three four five filters in my house
00:56:13.100 i don't know right yeah that reference briefly that west made to the golden calf um for those
00:56:19.020 who aren't familiar it's the story where you know moses comes down from the mountain and meeting
00:56:23.500 with god and he'd been gone for some time and israel got restless and gave in to their idolatry
00:56:29.820 and said all right well we you know we need to pivot and go a different direction you know we 0.55
00:56:33.980 we don't know where moses is we don't know if he's ever coming back and so they they go and you
00:56:37.920 know put pressure on aaron and aaron caves it's not just you know he blames the people but he he
00:56:43.700 willfully chooses to cave and they create you know fashion this golden calf as an idol to worship
00:56:49.640 and say behold you know the god that brought you you know the part of the red sea and brought you
00:56:53.640 out of egypt and so they're worshiping an idol this golden calf and as a consequence for their
00:56:58.800 sin what moses does is he um he actually grinds the calf into dust and then puts it into the water
00:57:06.540 and makes the israelites drink it um as their consequence and so that's um not not a hype
00:57:13.180 hyperbolic you know like wes is making i think a really insightful connection there and saying
00:57:17.820 and thousands died and thousands died right um and so these days like because of our sin
00:57:23.960 of the sexual revolution, and a hatred of children, the murder of children, and sodomy, 0.83
00:57:31.620 and the LGBT mafia alphabet people, with all those things. And as a society, not everybody's 0.97
00:57:39.160 gay, but so much of our society has celebrated these things. And so because of that, the embrace
00:57:45.720 and celebration of abortion, and homosexuality, and these kinds of things, that God in his
00:57:51.500 sovereignty has allowed the hormonal birth control pill to poison the water recap and so it's like 0.99
00:57:58.480 well you um instead of confronting and rebuking um those who are sodomites and sexually perverse
00:58:06.500 in society uh you chose to celebrate it and now um your punishment is that uh because you didn't 0.99
00:58:14.400 rebuke the gays now you're gay yeah wait what how are you going to do that uh the water yeah 0.99
00:58:20.360 the hormones in the water it's going to poison you make you more effeminate um yeah and i mean 0.99
00:58:26.720 it's funny like alex jones he's gotten a couple things wrong but i think he's gotten a lot more
00:58:33.300 right and uh that was one man i remember like all the memes of people making fun of him you know
00:58:38.640 about the frogs it didn't get you know like he said atrazine the chemical in the water was inducing
00:58:43.300 them to change from male to female yep he was right and it happened now imagine what that would
00:58:48.200 do in boys and girls about to go through puberty right ingesting amounts of that and drinking water
00:58:53.900 and everything that they terrible terrible for your hormone health and all that's a chemical
00:58:58.600 thing it's a physical thing it's a health thing but it's also i praise god for rfk jr you know
00:59:05.220 and and i think he's going to make some great you know uh reforms um but lest we forget
00:59:11.820 fundamentally it is a spiritual thing yeah um it's it's not just like oh there's you know this
00:59:17.780 chemical problem and you know that you know food dies and all these kinds of things yeah and also
00:59:23.100 um also we we have been rebelling against the lord right for decades and decades and decades
00:59:28.840 and you could figure out how he's punished us how he's disciplined us and and then try to mitigate
00:59:36.060 there's a difference in figuring out the means of god's judgment and then trying to mitigate
00:59:40.440 the means of judgment versus repentance right mitigate figuring out the the agency of how god
00:59:47.600 is disciplining us for sin and then trying to mitigate that agency is not the same as repentance
00:59:53.780 and yes i am also talking about trying to cure aids yep that's different i'm not saying you
01:00:01.560 shouldn't try to help people who are hurting even when there's sin i think that's what mercy
01:00:07.120 dictates. But also, lest we, you know, strain gnats and swallow camels, let's also as a nation
01:00:14.980 repent of sodomy and perversion. Let's do both. So, yeah. Okay. All right. We'll go to our second
01:00:22.180 commercial break. And when we come back, we have two videos for you. The first one will make you
01:00:25.540 puke and make you angry. And the second one has a little bit of hope. This is your barf bag warning.
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01:02:45.800 and then we'll get into the clips all right uh just before we jump into the clips pastor
01:02:51.180 don elborn we got a chuckle out of your comment the cure for aids is to drink filtered water
01:02:56.020 and heterosexual monogamy yeah we all we all had a good laugh yeah in that sense we we've all been
01:03:01.760 vaccinated yeah i guess monkey pox yeah monkey pox vaccine confirmed there's a vaccine you have
01:03:07.200 a vaccine against aids yes it's called heterosexual marriage we've all received the vax we're we're
01:03:12.560 safe yeah um okay okay good so we're gonna go um we've been talking about is the tide changing 0.92
01:03:18.740 we've talked about some statistics and just the general conversation going on in the nation
01:03:23.040 it seems that people are more aware of these problems and working um to try and alleviate
01:03:29.060 some of them at least with our physical fitness and our drive and our ability to achieve and
01:03:33.860 create which really if you if you want to talk about a decline in the nation like we have been
01:03:38.780 the most creative nation ever, and that is what is missing, and as Wes says, it's related to our
01:03:46.100 self-discipline, our testosterone, all of those things. So there's another sign that maybe we are
01:03:52.800 turning a corner a little bit on this, and that is in military advertising and marketing. So the
01:03:59.680 first video that we're going to watch, it's a little bit longer. It's a comparison of an ad
01:04:04.900 from i think 2022 is this the american one versus the russian one yep okay that's a good that's a
01:04:10.700 good time this one is an ad from 2022 i think from the u.s army and then right on the heels of it
01:04:16.560 like without it's it's been merged into the same video is an advertisement from the russian army
01:04:22.040 a recruitment advertisement trying to get people to join then we'll we'll all throw up for a little
01:04:27.500 bit. And then we have a second video, um, that is new from the U S army. Yeah. Yeah. And that's,
01:04:34.240 that's, um, your Whitefield Wednesday. Yeah. Yeah. That's encouraging. All right. Let's take it.
01:04:46.600 This is the story of a soldier who operates your nation's Patriot missile defense systems.
01:04:57.500 It begins in California, with a little girl raised by two moms.
01:05:12.500 Although I had a fairly typical childhood, took ballet, played violin, I also marched for equality.
01:05:21.500 I like to think I've been defending freedom from an early age.
01:05:27.500 When I was six years old, one of my moms had an accident that left her paralyzed.
01:05:32.400 Doctors said she might never walk again.
01:05:35.160 But she tapped into my family's pride to get back on her feet, 0.99
01:05:39.420 eventually standing at the altar to marry my other mom.
01:05:43.480 With such powerful role models, I finished high school at the top of my class 0.96
01:05:47.740 and then attended UC Davis, where I joined a sorority full of other strong women.
01:05:54.280 But as graduation approached, I began feeling like I'd been handed so much in life.
01:05:59.920 A sorority girl stereotype.
01:06:02.400 Sure, I'd spent my life around inspiring women.
01:06:05.600 But what had I really achieved on my own?
01:06:09.060 One of my sorority sisters was studying abroad in Italy.
01:06:12.380 Another was climbing Mount Everest.
01:06:14.860 I needed my own adventures.
01:06:17.300 My own challenge.
01:06:19.920 And after meeting with an Army recruiter,
01:06:21.940 I found it. A way to prove my inner strength, and maybe shatter some stereotypes along the way.
01:06:33.120 I'm U.S. Army Corporal Emma Malone-Lord, and I answered my calling.
01:06:37.440 this is the first day of your new life what was yesterday means nothing now who you were before
01:06:55.960 no one cares now what's important now is who you'll be today what do you know about yourself
01:07:02.560 what are you capable of? Questions may remain unanswered, but can you sleep soundly later on?
01:07:10.240 Knowing yourself, knowing the limit of your possibilities, to hell with limits. Are you
01:07:15.200 ready to break yourself? Every day pain hardens you here. It was you who decided to prove something
01:07:21.580 to yourself. The commander is here only for you to see an enemy in him because without the enemy
01:07:26.580 there is no battle because without battle there is no victory but in reality the main enemy is you
01:07:33.540 the you of yesterday your task is to track the enemy down catch up to him outperform him become
01:07:40.680 better than him and return the victor because tomorrow is the first day of your new life
01:07:46.960 sorry for that last part right there we uh did not know that that was in the video um but you
01:08:00.820 get the point and i will say this uh the video from the russians i kept thinking the whole time
01:08:06.640 uh yeah that that looks like a military recruitment ad for a christian nation yeah
01:08:11.740 and then you see what it looks like from a gay nation like ours that we hope by god's grace
01:08:17.360 might be christian again and then i i just wanted to point out because i thought it was insightful
01:08:21.720 um the mollusk man in our chat he comments on our youtube uh channel fairly often and shares
01:08:28.100 our material and i know him personally and obviously i'm not going to say who he is but
01:08:32.100 he's a great guy and from time to time is a part of the church a good christian man but he had an
01:08:36.640 insightful comment. Um, cause we're about to show, you know, a more recent, um, military
01:08:41.880 recruitment ad for America that it takes a very different tune from the, Hey, both of my parents,
01:08:47.920 you know, I have two moms and, um, and I've been fighting, you know, fighting against hate, you
01:08:53.320 know, by going to gay pride parades where dudes, you know, have their dong hanging out in front
01:08:57.800 of children. You know, I've been fighting for that, you know, uh, debauchery and perversion my 1.00
01:09:01.460 whole life. And now the U S army has lowered its, you know, physical fitness standards so that I can
01:09:05.920 go and jeopardize men and get them killed because I'll be captured and abused and will put people
01:09:10.280 in danger. So you have that ad, right? Tell us how you really feel, Joel. And that's how I really 0.94
01:09:14.300 feel for gay America. But America is getting a little bit less gay, at least in the military. 0.74
01:09:20.960 And Moleskman said, the army ads only show straight white men with guns when Israel is in 0.79
01:09:27.580 trouble. I thought that was pretty good. It's like when Ukraine's in trouble, let's run the gay girl 0.93
01:09:33.540 ads you know now that now that our you know our greatest allies in trouble it's time to get serious 0.99
01:09:38.400 and send some healthy men to go die um okay hopefully not lord please please don't let us 0.58
01:09:46.060 go into world war three amen because of israel in the name of jesus amen okay wes you were going to
01:09:51.760 say something about military women yeah so i did four years in the marine corps uh 2013 2017 and i
01:09:58.260 was deployed once and of all the drama that would go on in units of things that had happened maybe 0.56
01:10:03.320 harassment or whatever not every single woman but uh 90 of the time if there's some type of woman 1.00
01:10:09.140 in the unit just about whatever rank it was that woman in some way or another was sleeping around 1.00
01:10:14.680 she was impacting mission readiness and just distracting men from the mission we were deployed 0.94
01:10:20.220 we were in the middle east and there was literally women who were married to men back home and there
01:10:24.900 was all this drama about well we think so-and-so hooked up with so-and-so and that's actually
01:10:28.600 technically fraternization and now it has to be an investigation when you're supposed to be
01:10:33.140 on mission doing actual things same thing when we were back home i remember well oh there's this
01:10:37.560 cute girl that works up at the the admin shop and it was all the rumor mill like who was dating who
01:10:42.780 it impacts mission readiness not every single woman but over and over again this is not just
01:10:48.200 my story tons and tons of people have said this whenever you have actually anything meaningful
01:10:52.360 to do having women in your unit distracts because men are attracted to women that's that's what men
01:10:57.880 are and so you have especially when it relates to combat and the military and all those different
01:11:02.320 things it is a distraction and it does not work right yeah right all right well um we do we hope
01:11:10.920 we think that the culture is turning in this area we hope that the military is turning a corner in
01:11:16.880 this area um main mailer says do actual generals in our military meet the standards that's the real
01:11:21.760 issue well pete hegseth certainly does i don't know if you guys saw that video of him doing the
01:11:26.000 workout routine with the marines in germany that was pretty impressive and i've heard through you
01:11:31.140 know social media that that has gone like wildfire through the troops like almost immediately they
01:11:36.500 were texting their buddies calling their buddies all through the armed services this guy can do
01:11:40.680 the the morning pt with us without breaking the sweat and you know it was really incredible so
01:11:45.620 uh to that end we have a more encouraging um very short but pretty brand new army recruiting video
01:11:53.640 and this is hopefully not just the face of the military but hopefully the face of what
01:11:58.060 American men are wanting to be, not that we're all going to be as ripped as this guy,
01:12:04.440 but the idea of being self-disciplined, strong, resilient, all of those things.
01:12:10.180 So Nate, let's play the second video of the new Army recruitment video.
01:12:25.640 Stronger people are harder to kill.
01:12:28.060 so not a great actor but he says we don't need him to be a good actor we already have those uh
01:12:36.980 we've got zelinski over there yep he's a great actor he says stronger people are harder to kill
01:12:41.580 and i remember eric khan has famously said i think he's the one that originated it um part of part of
01:12:47.240 being a man is being hard to kill right masculinity is being hard to kill and so even the fact that
01:12:52.420 that is now what uh the military is coming out with i wish he would have said strong men are
01:12:56.420 harder to kill but i suppose in general it's true even you know if you're a stronger woman you're
01:13:01.400 probably harder to kill too hopefully you're not in the military trying to be killed though so right
01:13:05.880 yep a little a little encouragement there seems like the tide is turning a little bit yeah yeah
01:13:11.280 definitely i i think too the reason gen z men so those younger men rather really they're just
01:13:16.920 keyed into it there's just they're watching edits and masculinity stuff and that's because there's
01:13:21.760 one thing that truly at some level cannot be bought and that is a good muscular physique and
01:13:28.020 it's not everything but uh there is no shortcut to it you cannot purchase it there's no equipment
01:13:33.180 or whatever it test or steroids obviously help but there is no replacement for being in the gym
01:13:39.220 consistently eating right sleeping well not just for a week or two for months and months to years
01:13:44.680 on end to have a decent muscular physique and so in a world where there's crypto and everything and
01:13:49.540 like what is wealth anymore and what is cars and what are watches uh here's one thing uh that you
01:13:54.240 just you for sure have discipline and it's being decently in shape you know taking care of yourself
01:14:00.560 looking composed you can't fake that you can't buy that and so in a world of fakeness i want to
01:14:06.420 say a lot of young men they say hey here's one thing that if i get it nobody will be able to
01:14:11.640 discredit or take that away from me yeah yeah that's a good point want to uh deal with some
01:14:16.720 questions yep so we'll take a couple questions nate if we have them and i'll just i'll be joel
01:14:22.260 today i don't know i'm i'm feeling i'm i was in the mood for all my classes today i was i was in
01:14:27.300 the mood for all my classes i'm still in the mood so i'm gonna be joel today we'll definitely
01:14:31.700 respond to the super chats oh there's no super chats
01:14:35.520 yeah that's all right call it there we go question number one what's oh there we go
01:14:43.520 what's wes's workout routine um here's what i would just say so uh if people have asked like oh
01:14:51.480 like how much these guys lift or whatever like i won't speak for you but i'm getting close to
01:14:54.700 probably benching about 300 pounds that was one of my goals for this year same thing squat and
01:14:58.420 deadlift in the 300s close to high 300s uh run under a nine minute mile which isn't the fastest
01:15:03.660 so my individual workout routine right now i'm doing five by five to work up my bench press
01:15:07.620 so that's five sets of five repetitions so it's not as many you're not burning out you're not
01:15:11.620 getting up your heart rate is high right but you're moving a decent amount of weight and what
01:15:14.620 you do is you just incrementally increase it so if you do 205 for five sets of five reps
01:15:18.720 this week the next week you do 210 and the next week 215 it's a great way to not injure yourself
01:15:23.520 as far as workout routines in general what i would say is it's you don't help yourself if you can move
01:15:29.920 a lot of weight a little distance and then you go 500 meters and you're out of breath nor does it
01:15:35.100 help if you can go 25 miles you know at seven minutes a mile but also you can't pick up your
01:15:41.160 wife on your back and carry her for 500 meters you have to be able to move weight and you have
01:15:45.100 to be able to move and so generally speaking that would mean some type of strength some type of
01:15:49.560 lifting actual physical weights and then an ability to actually move your body with a decent
01:15:54.080 bit of weight so whatever workout routine you're doing try to orient it around those things you
01:15:57.980 got to move some weight if you're a man it's good for you it's healthy it builds muscle mass
01:16:01.120 and also the same time you should be able to walk to the end of the road at decent risk pace
01:16:05.200 with your kids play football with them chase them around and not be out of breath and waited for the
01:16:09.900 next 30 minutes. Yep. Pastor Don Elborn says, so will we need to work out in the eternal state?
01:16:18.860 That's a good question. I think the key word there is the word need, right? Like, I think we will be,
01:16:26.020 first of all, there's quite a debate or an issue to think through of what it means to
01:16:31.040 enter Christ's rest, right? Does that mean a state of no physical exertion? It could be.
01:16:39.900 It could be a state of no physical exertion, or does it mean no futile work like the curse has
01:16:46.020 given to us? And theologians have debated about that question. Wes and I have talked about that
01:16:50.060 quite a bit. If we have physical tasks in heaven similar to what God gave us here on earth, I think
01:16:56.440 there will be a wisdom where we will live a lifestyle that is proper to keep our bodies
01:17:02.180 in optimal condition. I don't know that necessarily we would need to go to the gym
01:17:07.420 any more than, you know, the man who is cutting wood for his family and farming his land would
01:17:15.120 have necessarily had to go to the gym. I think my personal opinion is I think there will be some
01:17:20.580 physical activity and that we will steward our bodies perfectly in heaven because there will
01:17:25.500 be no sin and there will be no cellular degradation. So I think that our lifestyle as we serve Christ
01:17:32.600 in the new heavens and the new earth will be such that our bodies will be optimally healthy.
01:17:38.680 Yeah, that's well said.
01:17:40.320 Josh Rocha, he said, sometimes I flirt a bit with a cute woman at my gym.
01:17:44.980 We talk about getting drinks together, and then what we're going to do after we put the
01:17:50.020 kids down for bed.
01:17:51.500 My gym is in my garage.
01:17:53.420 He's talking about his wife.
01:17:54.480 Well done, Josh.
01:17:55.240 Well said.
01:17:56.200 That's good.
01:17:57.600 Let's see, real quick.
01:17:59.820 I get at Neville's question.
01:18:01.000 I'll be discreet.
01:18:02.020 so neville said do you think that obscene material reduces testosterone and contributes to
01:18:07.640 feminization and gayification of men i've looked at some of the literature on this it is not a
01:18:12.540 direct one-to-one that when a man sends that it just step down step down step down you could
01:18:17.740 almost liken it to smoking weed like it's literally not like you smoke one weed you become
01:18:23.160 gay or something like that just a single smoke that's a guy who does not smoke weed your
01:18:28.900 credentials are off the chart you know i was joking smoking weed just in and of itself just 0.92
01:18:36.020 it doesn't immediately have this mechanical mechanistic effect and so too it is within
01:18:40.100 this sin but what this sin does is it compounds over time and it creates a man that is pacified
01:18:46.100 so why why would he have ambition why would he go out and conquer why would he strive why would he
01:18:51.380 discipline himself why would he buffet his body when all the things that he's kind of striving
01:18:55.620 after and looking for he has in his bedroom on his laptop yeah and so in and of itself it's not
01:19:00.700 this mechanistic means but most certainly unleashed on society it creates men that have no ambition to
01:19:07.180 actually be men which chicken or the egg which comes first definitely creates a a mode of living
01:19:13.740 that is conducive to lower testosterone and then with lower testosterone you have less ambition
01:19:18.280 and less drive you win less which decreases your testosterone further which then you're not winning
01:19:23.860 and you continue to go back to at least that thing
01:19:25.940 that will give you dopamine and reward
01:19:27.920 and it's a self-defeating cycle.
01:19:32.420 Watch Zealot, the Watch Zealot.
01:19:34.540 He says, what are your thoughts
01:19:35.660 or comments on Doug's new term, hatriarchy?
01:19:41.480 I did see that in my feed,
01:19:44.400 blog and made blog video on the hatriarchy.
01:19:47.720 I think it was his take on the fiasco
01:19:49.580 with Patriarchy Hannah.
01:19:51.680 Yeah, I'm not turning out to...
01:19:53.860 Um, the problem though is, uh, I don't, I did not watch it.
01:20:00.620 I don't really, I didn't watch it either.
01:20:02.200 I don't really, uh, read or watch Doug Wilson anymore.
01:20:06.120 Uh, love him, still respect him, but, uh, yeah, just, uh, don't really follow his ministry
01:20:12.920 much, um, for the past little while.
01:20:15.660 And I think, uh, for those of you who've been following along, you know, for the last few
01:20:19.480 months, probably know why.
01:20:20.560 and i think it's um i think it's justified and perfectly fine so but from what i could tell
01:20:26.660 which is like the little caption uh it basically seemed like doug was going to do what what you
01:20:32.540 would expect these days from doug that he was going to somehow tie a random person that none
01:20:38.300 of us personally know and say that that somehow i don't some somehow means that ogden and eric
01:20:47.560 con and joel webin and everybody else right the little bit of the caption that as i was just
01:20:52.700 scrolling past it it said um something about egg on your face i don't really know i don't know what
01:20:59.220 that egg would be um it's not like hannah patriarchy or patriarchy hannah um you know
01:21:06.220 people were trying to say well you guys platformed her and said well we didn't um i went on her
01:21:13.160 podcast that she told me she had her husband's permission for which that obviously turned out
01:21:18.980 to be a lie i did that one time over a year ago two years ago something like that eric did the
01:21:23.200 same thing one time um that's pretty much about it i mean i don't see a whole lot of people picking
01:21:30.080 on michael foster but he did probably 20 different you know twitter spaces with her he had far more
01:21:35.740 engagement um with patriarchy hannah than eric or i did um and if you know if just one time
01:21:44.880 going on her audio only podcast to her audience of you know maybe a hundred women is um platforming
01:21:52.500 her and i have egg on my face then i guess doug wilson has egg on his face since he helped build
01:21:59.700 the platform of a revoice for nazis joel webin by speaking at our conference i never spoke at any
01:22:06.740 conference of hannah patriarchy you know but um but doug wilson he's i mean i guess does he have
01:22:14.180 egg on his face for helping the nazis out in all of the ways that he's partnered with us so anyways 0.95
01:22:20.260 i just think it's a it's a stupid argument uh which sadly is what i've come to expect um i think 0.98
01:22:25.320 that doug wilson is still brilliant in many ways his contribution to christendom over decades has 0.94
01:22:29.900 been um incredible i i i've grown a lot from him and so i think he's a brother in christ
01:22:37.400 i still love him um but yeah his more recent commentary on you know issues like this
01:22:45.380 uh seem like for the most part it's it's just another video of how i'm burning bridges that
01:22:52.020 actually in the video actually catch myself on fire and burn down both of the towns it was a
01:22:57.720 really prophetic video that's what he did or i'm writing blogs about you know young men and i'm
01:23:03.700 closing the submarine door so that the young men drown out at sea without like if that's if you
01:23:10.680 know that's not always who he was but that's the direction for whatever reason in god's providence
01:23:14.980 he's decided to go he's he's made the calculus and um cost benefit analysis we're always you know
01:23:21.480 we're always concluding. We're always determining, making decisions. And over the last six months,
01:23:26.720 that's kind of the decision that he's made is, um, he's pretty much, he's, he's done with young
01:23:32.920 men. Young men are, um, too much of a liability and, uh, he's in his seventies now. He's got a
01:23:39.220 40 year record of a lot of really helpful things. And I think he's kind of just ready to, um,
01:23:45.720 he, he fought dragons. He did. And, and nobody can take that away from him. And we shouldn't
01:23:49.720 so so quickly forget he fought a lot of dragons and he taught young men of a next generation uh
01:23:55.540 how to fight dragons the problem is that he said well dragons look like this they have scales and
01:24:00.400 they have claws and fangs you know and wings and they have smoke coming out of their nose and they
01:24:04.740 breathe fire and then me and the ogden boys and others you know we just were looking you know
01:24:10.500 surveying the land and and we thought we saw one we're like here's a dragon let's let's slay it
01:24:16.500 it's literally it's the biggest dragon we've ever seen it has wings and it breathes fire and it's
01:24:20.760 got scales and its fangs are huge and its claws are massive and you know like this is a dragon
01:24:27.020 and then we were told no that that's not a dragon that's um that's our pet and of course what i'm
01:24:32.780 speaking of is zionism and israel um i was taught to kill things that breathe fire and we found one
01:24:41.340 we found a live one not not a dead dragon those are easy you know not the dead dragon of you know
01:24:45.700 racism and you know jim crow laws that ended decades ago those like it's always fun you know
01:24:50.960 to go kick the you know the carcass of a dragon that somebody with courage has already slayed but
01:24:55.360 um but living dragons are tough and um that dragon for whatever reason has been declared to be not a
01:25:01.460 dragon not a threat not an enemy but a pet and a friend and um so a long story short to answer
01:25:09.540 your question the watch zealot um any questions about you know what doug is up to i'm probably
01:25:16.700 not the best guy to answer them because i'm not really paying attention anymore okay i am qualified
01:25:22.820 to answer this next question how many miles a week west three i have a 1.5 mile loop that i've
01:25:28.600 paced out around my house so i run that twice a week and i'm trying to decrease my time on it
01:25:32.640 about five to ten seconds each time with a goal of running about like a sub seven minute mile
01:25:37.380 for that mile and a half by the end of the year.
01:25:41.180 All right, two super chats.
01:25:42.920 Thanks very much, Presbyterianon.
01:25:45.160 That's a great name.
01:25:46.860 Didn't he used to be the seminarian?
01:25:50.340 Seminarianon?
01:25:51.080 Yeah, he was the seminarian, and then when he graduated,
01:25:53.420 he was like, oh, snap, I've got to change my profile.
01:25:56.720 $2, thank you very much, from Presbyterianon.
01:25:59.340 Here's a super chat for you boys, love you all.
01:26:01.680 Thank you very much.
01:26:02.820 And then he says, Pastor Webin,
01:26:04.980 what are your favorite commentaries?
01:26:06.260 and i think every member of joel's church for sure at least for the book of matthew yeah so
01:26:13.060 matthew henry is is great the tony evans study bible no but matthew um oh yeah presbyterian he
01:26:19.280 said i was seminarian yeah i thought so uh he's he's a great follow by the way what's your handle
01:26:23.980 presbyterian on um presbyterian on x what's your handle i'll wait for you to type it in real quick
01:26:30.360 and we'll give you a shout out you can get some follows some extra follows i think i follow you
01:26:34.680 on x and yeah i think i've seen him and you've had uh some good good content we appreciate it
01:26:39.960 all right it'll be coming uh but in the meantime i'll try to answer the question so yeah matthew
01:26:44.160 henry is just he's so accessible i mean you just the simplest of google searches and you can get
01:26:49.220 leather bound you know commentaries if you want to have physical copies which i get i think that's
01:26:53.020 awesome um but just you know there's only a few guys i mean there are several but by comparison
01:26:59.520 there's only a few guys that have a commentary of the entire bible matthew henry is one of them
01:27:03.480 uh another one that uh that you know for me being baptist i think he's kind of you know he's the
01:27:09.140 quintessential you know giant of the baptist uh is john gill and john gill was a pastor
01:27:14.820 of the same church that uh about a hundred years later that charles spurgeon became the pastor of
01:27:20.220 and uh john gill john gill's great like because oh he is he um like for instance like he believed
01:27:26.480 you know you can find all these quotes like he believed that um that both tables of the law of
01:27:31.040 God, the Decalogue, Exodus 20, not just, you know, don't murder and don't steal as it pertains to our
01:27:36.780 love for our neighbor, but including our, you know, loving the Lord our God with all our heart,
01:27:40.920 soul, mind, and strength, you know, blue laws, Sabbath laws, you know, blaspheming laws, the
01:27:44.460 first table of law. He believed that that should be legislated and enforced by the civil magistrate
01:27:50.380 in a society, in a nation state, that it wasn't just something that belonged, you know, to the,
01:27:55.820 you know, to the kingdom of grace or the, you know, the church, you know, but it also belonged
01:28:01.640 to nature and it was good for all people, even outside of the realm of the church. So John Gill
01:28:07.260 and Matthew Henry gives you kind of, you know, a little bit of the Baptist and the Presbyterian
01:28:12.460 perspective, but both reformed, both covenantals, covenant, John Gill's as covenantal as a Baptist
01:28:17.720 could be, you know, and I know, you know, the Presbyterian, you know, on here. And so he's
01:28:22.600 that's not very covenantal fair whatever but um but yeah those i think those are just and and then
01:28:27.600 again accessibility in terms of just the ease of access um you know if you if you want to buy the
01:28:34.160 copies i think that's a benefit but you could spend zero dollars and utilize both of those
01:28:39.480 commentaries every verse in the bible baptist reformed baptist perspective reformed presbyterian
01:28:45.360 puritan perspective with with matthew henry and um and it'll always you know pretty much everything
01:28:52.120 to have a good take yep yep yep you got a couple more questions we're pretty early so okay we can
01:28:58.900 hit him did he give us his handle he did what is it the same thing presbyterian so at presbyterian
01:29:05.240 so okay there it is at uh p-r-e-s-b-y-t-e-r-i-a-n-o-n at presbyterian on
01:29:18.260 presbyterian on is that how you would say yeah give him a follow you remember chris pena where
01:29:24.140 he's in the chat go back nate oh hey
01:29:28.200 literally i got doxed like a month ago yeah i know so yeah but here's the deal six months ago
01:29:36.520 they could have done something now they can't yeah i'm untouchable in god's grace in god's mercy
01:29:40.600 my real name is out my real last name is known but uh there's nothing they can do
01:29:45.460 yep you were able to uh fortify yourself just in time that's that's a goal that's you know that
01:29:51.220 kind of brings up a sidebar but part of my advice to every young man is um don't be foolish but at
01:29:58.100 the same time um we need courage and uh and in order to exercise courage properly without it
01:30:04.680 coming at a deep cost to you know your wife and your children um every man needs to do everything
01:30:10.320 he can to be bulletproof like we're talking about the physical side of it today you know so like
01:30:13.700 being healthy. Be hard to kill, bulletproof. Well, also financially, like in every single
01:30:20.760 realm of your life, economically and physically and spiritually, like relationally, also like
01:30:26.020 at every single level. But be bulletproof. And the reason why, here's the reason, it's not just
01:30:33.080 so that you can be tough. It's not so that you can like look at yourself in the mirror or things
01:30:36.500 like that it's um you need to be bulletproof because um we live in a world where people
01:30:43.440 shoot bullets um we live in a world where like people people hate they hate you and you just
01:30:50.480 you have to come to terms with that you can't kid yourself and be naive like if if if people 0.69
01:30:56.420 when i say people i don't just mean libs and progressives i mean christians and some of them
01:31:01.060 are reformed christians if they could they they would do everything they can to make sure not just
01:31:07.520 that you uh are disqualified from ministry or have to step down from the past like they they will
01:31:13.060 make sure that your children starve they want your family to starve it's like what are you talking
01:31:19.400 about i i don't even want to say his name there will be some stuff that will come out about this
01:31:26.000 in the future and we'll leave it there but there's a reformed guy fairly well known not a huge name
01:31:32.340 but fairly well known who a couple years ago got doxed by christians allegedly reformed christians
01:31:39.440 and and he didn't just lose his his job that was kind of you know in the realm of ministry in a
01:31:45.720 christian vocation that that i think you know may have made sense um that might have been the right
01:31:52.400 call i don't i'm not privy to all the details so i can't say definitively but it's somewhat
01:31:56.500 reasonable that he lost that job that's one thing but then for the last two years these people
01:32:02.560 followed him around when he was working you know menial jobs outside well outside of the realm of
01:32:09.080 ministry just whether it's you know like working a fedex truck or whatever you know just normal jobs
01:32:15.040 and they followed they would follow him after doxing him and him losing his ministry job they
01:32:20.040 would follow him months after the fact and find out where his next employment was in order to get
01:32:25.840 him fired again. And I'm talking about Reformed Christians. I'm talking about people that it's 1.00
01:32:31.020 not just that, oh, well, we want to uphold the purity of Christ's church and biblical qualifications.
01:32:35.540 No, they want your kids to starve, guys. You need to hear that. These people want your kids to
01:32:42.800 starve. They hate you because you've embarrassed them. You've embarrassed them by going back 0.99
01:32:49.740 and doing the reading and realizing that all our christian forefathers disagree with them
01:32:55.760 and that the anomaly is not the new dissident right but that the blip on the map the anomaly
01:33:02.780 is the 20th century modern christianity modern liberalism is the anomaly you're not crazy you
01:33:12.240 think like every single human being christian and even non-christians in many aspects have thought
01:33:17.760 since the beginning of the world in every place in every time and and when you make those arguments
01:33:25.960 and you and you dust off right you dust off these old writings and then a lot of them aren't even
01:33:32.720 that old but just you know before 1945 things you know before the post-liberal order and and you
01:33:38.860 and you start posting that publicly online you start challenging the status quo and challenging
01:33:44.300 the post-war consensus and these things um you are you're humiliating um people you are
01:33:52.100 threatening entire and it's all it's all money let's just be honest it's a lot of it is money
01:33:58.340 you're challenging um and and potentially threatening and crippling um whole uh christian
01:34:06.260 economies like like you think of like what happened you know just in the last 10 years
01:34:10.600 with like a lot of the exposing of big eva with tgc you know and and these kinds of you know
01:34:17.080 groups and uh yeah they're not going to they're not going to go quietly you know ride off into
01:34:22.660 the sunset russell moore's not going to do that it's it's life or death for him you are threatening
01:34:28.720 his way of life he's he's got he's got a scam to run you know what i mean he's got he's got a
01:34:36.840 he's got a good thing going and uh and you know and you're ruining it you know it's like the
01:34:43.140 scooby-doo episodes you know you pull off the mask and it's like and i would have gotten away
01:34:46.260 with it too if it wasn't for you pesky kids um that's that's all you guys on on x you're the
01:34:53.260 pesky kids and you're and you're pointing out that the emperor has no clothes and you're
01:34:58.040 pulling off the mask and showing like you know that big eva is a joke and turns out most of
01:35:03.660 medieval is too. And when you do that, even if you're doing it for righteous motives, it doesn't
01:35:10.120 matter. In the tangible sense, it is a threat. It affects the bottom line of these entities,
01:35:17.640 these ministries, these operations. And when you affect the bottom line of some of these communities,
01:35:23.540 they don't want to just defend the purity of the church because they think that you're extreme or
01:35:27.880 that you're heretical. They know you're not heretical. So they're not just going to try to
01:35:33.040 dox you or to knock you, you know, de-platform you, de-frock you. They will follow you around
01:35:38.740 for two years to every single job that you go to to make sure you cannot feed your wife and kids.
01:35:43.440 That's the type of people that we're talking about. We're talking about wicked, wicked people. 0.70
01:35:49.680 So all that being said, back to, you know, Wes, you know, being doxed, by God's grace,
01:35:56.100 they can't do anything. And I'm just using that as an opportunity to give a little pastoral
01:36:01.280 counsel here. You need to be, you need to be working overtime as fast as you can in the grace
01:36:08.520 and strength that the Lord generously provides in order to make yourself bulletproof, to fortify
01:36:16.100 every aspect of your life, your family, your relationships, where you live. You do not need
01:36:21.380 to be renting. You don't. I know that it's hard, but as much as you can, like what Paul would say
01:36:27.100 to slaves, if you can gain your freedom, right, be content. But if you can gain your freedom,
01:36:30.580 avail yourself to do so dude like the the the debtor is lender a slave to the lender so um
01:36:37.420 as much as you can try to own a home uh make sure that your marriage is rock solid that your wife
01:36:42.940 could not be um that your wife would not be able the the the caliber of marriage and relationship
01:36:50.680 that you have with your wife is is strong enough to where she could not be manipulated against you 0.99
01:36:55.840 that she couldn't watch a video. I don't know, this is hypothetical, but for instance,
01:37:02.800 she couldn't just find one video about Abigail and Nabal and be, in a moment, convinced that
01:37:10.720 you're Nabal and be persuaded to go against her own husband. So you need to be bulletproof in
01:37:18.160 your marriage, that the trust that she has in you, her husband, far out seats to where
01:37:25.760 she can see a video like that online where they say, you need to be enabled because your husband's
01:37:30.200 too far right wing and that she would, without even needing any instruction, you've already
01:37:35.260 discipled her enough to where she sees something like that and she just laughs or gets angry
01:37:41.420 because she realizes that it's actually wicked and it's wrong. So fortify, bulletproof your
01:37:47.000 marriage, bulletproof your finances. If you can, be self-employed or work for a trustworthy,
01:37:54.800 conservative christian um bulletproof yourself in terms of your housing and and try to own
01:38:02.040 your own house bulletproof yourself in terms of physical fitness and health make sure that you
01:38:07.120 can't just kill over i mean we can all get hit by a truck tomorrow god is sovereign he owes us
01:38:12.400 nothing we're entitled to nothing apart from god's grace we're entitled to nothing but hell
01:38:16.240 um but as far as it depends on you try to be in the kind of physical shape to where
01:38:22.520 where you, you know, if you wouldn't maybe have a heart attack, if you had to go up three flights
01:38:28.640 of stairs, you know, like, so at all these levels, physically, financially, relationally,
01:38:35.340 be, be bulletproof, because if you're going to be courageous, they hate you, they hate you,
01:38:42.540 the world hates you, and sadly, a decent amount of the church also hates you, and if they can,
01:38:48.220 they will ruin you and so you need to be in a place to where you can't be ruined it's imperative
01:38:53.900 okay we have a super chat that came in right at the end there this is from luke mclam he says
01:39:02.140 author book recommendations for someone wanting to learn more about church history luke i have one
01:39:06.720 that my disclaimer is it's been highly recommended to me it's on my list but i have not read it yet
01:39:12.160 But it is 2,000 Years of Christ's Power by Nick Needham.
01:39:18.220 So people that I know and trust have recommended that High Leafs.
01:39:21.780 That it's really, really great.
01:39:23.440 So that's one out there.
01:39:25.680 Awesome.
01:39:26.320 Church History and Planned Language is another good one.
01:39:28.300 That one's really good.
01:39:28.880 I've gone through that one.
01:39:29.800 Yep.
01:39:30.300 Is it true that beer has estrogen?
01:39:31.740 Yes.
01:39:32.160 I can hit three questions.
01:39:33.520 Especially IPAs.
01:39:34.040 Right here.
01:39:34.520 You hit those up your alley.
01:39:35.740 So it's true they have a compound called a phytoestrogen,
01:39:38.920 which is a estrogen-similar compound.
01:39:41.000 so it's not literally estrogen but it is chemically similar which activates estrogen receptor alpha
01:39:46.200 and beta which would then mimic the effects of estrogen in men now it's lower quantities with
01:39:53.560 almost all of these things it's like well apple seeds of this this has the other okay don't eat
01:39:57.720 100 pounds of them in a given year so the same thing for beer and it is especially a byproduct
01:40:02.120 of hops if you drink a lot of beer ipas yep you drink a lot of beer especially ipas for one it's
01:40:08.600 it's bread you're drinking a loaf of bread it's a lot of calories it's empty calories
01:40:12.520 nathan how long have i been saying drinking a loaf of bread 15 years okay yep yep long um
01:40:18.840 actually porter porter is called that because it was so thick with the the the yeast or not the
01:40:25.960 yeast but the the wheat that um they would give it to the porters who were carrying uh luggage
01:40:31.640 off the ships because they needed the calories right yep and san diego has like makes you know
01:40:37.480 brews a lot of great beer there's a lot of great breweries and so we would you know we would go to
01:40:41.160 like there'd be you know like pizza port was a place that like they had good pizza and they also
01:40:45.720 brewed their own beer and i remember like we would go all the time and it was fine when i was like in
01:40:49.840 my mid-20s and then right around the time i hit like 27 years old i remember it was just like
01:40:54.580 just the way i would feel it was just like a cliff and i'd be like i'm going i'm going to pizza port
01:41:00.680 to eat a loaf of bread it was like super thick crust with you know and so it's like i'm eating
01:41:05.740 a loaf of bread and then thinking you know what would really complement this loaf of bread a
01:41:10.060 liquid loaf of bread and you know by the time it was like 27 especially like 28 29 i was like all
01:41:16.040 right like i can't do this anymore yep yeah if you are a man and i mentioned earlier about body
01:41:20.800 fat percentage like i'm trying to get it down trying to get it down drink six to eight beers
01:41:24.440 a week like that is a great place to start you don't have to cut it out i mean i love a good
01:41:30.040 beer but it like that's just a lot of empty calories and there's some estrogenic effects
01:41:34.480 like you see guys get man boobs and that is it's a product of fatty tissue and estrogen-like
01:41:40.260 hormonal activity so as much as you can limit it whiskey's great is cholesterol bad or good 0.79
01:41:45.000 way bigger topic that we can get to but i will say this um cholesterol is a fatty substance that
01:41:49.980 also helps make the myelin sheath in your brain so alzheimer's is a degeneration of the way that
01:41:55.700 the axons communicate and when they communicate they're supposed to be insulated by this fatty
01:41:59.840 layer and cholesterol is a component of that so is it a coincidence that we pushed a low cholesterol
01:42:05.520 diet for decades and decades and decades and now we have alzheimer's on the rise you deprive the
01:42:10.780 body of one of the building blocks of some of the essential components now again all things in
01:42:14.980 moderation it's not to say that all types of cholesterol low density high density they're all
01:42:18.900 good but cholesterol is an important part of the diet and don't freak out if you're eating a
01:42:23.220 moderately healthy diet and something has high cholesterol yeah one of my friends stacy who is a
01:42:27.740 dude um dude with the chick's name uh but great dude and we've been friends forever and um but
01:42:35.640 i mean he has talked to me and and several times i have not wanted to talk because it's just so
01:42:42.420 much conversation and i've just not cared um but but he has talked to me for years like for like
01:42:50.480 sometimes like like we're hanging out it's like two hour conversation i was like man i like this
01:42:54.380 it's not what i imagined us doing um but he was right but he taught for years he was like i can't
01:43:00.280 say all the things like he did so much research and looked into so many different things and i
01:43:03.380 i can't repeat it what west knows what he's talking about but in a nutshell he said um yeah
01:43:08.480 all this stuff about you're gonna get a heart attack if you eat steak you know and bacon and
01:43:12.200 you know if you have a big one in the 90s yeah they were saying one of the healthiest things
01:43:16.420 you can eat for your body and your brain but i remember like stacy he deserves the credit he
01:43:20.720 told me like 10 years ago he was like it's sugar it's sugar he said cholesterol yeah it's fine
01:43:28.400 stay away from sugar and he said raw milk eggs steak you'll live forever even broadly speaking
01:43:35.820 yeah absolutely i was like okay he was right yep someone asked about intermittent fasting
01:43:40.360 especially for cellular muscular repair yes intermittent fasting induces a thing called
01:43:44.400 autophagy which helps to repair cellular mechanisms it's with everything i would say like keto
01:43:49.080 intermittent fasting carnivore there are some people they literally have to do keto because
01:43:52.520 they get some type of seizure or they react they're very sensitive to allergens and so they
01:43:56.840 have to do carnivore great great thing to do for a little while hey i want to hit the reset button
01:44:01.480 hey i think this would help me lose some weight but as much as you can your workout routine your
01:44:06.180 activity your fitness and your diet sustainable is so much better something you will do for 10
01:44:11.700 years is so much better than the thing you do really well for six months so maybe it's not
01:44:16.100 quite keto, but it is heavier on protein, heavier on the fats, less on the beer, less
01:44:19.960 on the sugar.
01:44:20.980 Sustaining that for 10 years is better than you do in carnivore for one.
01:44:24.620 So intermittent fasting is great.
01:44:26.440 Your life isn't really built around not eating until like, I don't know, like 10 p.m. or
01:44:29.560 something or 4 p.m.
01:44:32.040 Don't necessarily have to start there or say, hey, I'm going to do it for two months with
01:44:35.300 the goal of long term eating in this pattern in this way.
01:44:38.180 I will say I saw a comment about that same question. 1.00
01:44:42.620 This is actually a whole nother animal when it comes to women. 1.00
01:44:45.200 And if you're a woman jumping into intermittent fasting, it's actually, you need to be very careful. 0.99
01:44:50.100 Your wife's talked about that, like in the church, like not for women.
01:44:53.200 It can be, just depending on the phase in the cycle and what your very short-term goals are.
01:44:59.940 It's a very short-term tool that can have some benefits, but it can really mess up hormonal health long-term.
01:45:07.260 Yep.
01:45:07.680 Yep.
01:45:08.000 So we'll end it with this. 0.86
01:45:09.120 Don't do drugs, kids.
01:45:10.460 There's a real pipeline.
01:45:12.580 So it's kind of like three dots, right? 0.97
01:45:14.540 and you just they're they're directly correlated you drink too many ipas you will grow man boobs 0.69
01:45:20.780 and then you will find yourself whether you like it or not like involuntary you will find yourself
01:45:26.100 on social media trying to dox good men like zach garris like i mean the pipeline is real
01:45:32.060 one to one man boobs i'm now doxing good reformed men like it's i mean it's uncanny the pipeline's
01:45:38.840 real stay away from it i'm seeing a euro symbol in the super chat i don't think that money works 0.94
01:45:42.800 here that's pounds that's pounds uh yeah so it's probably does that mean it's more money or less
01:45:47.060 money it's more money it's more money it's more yeah the pound is more than pounds the pound is
01:45:51.720 more than the dollar i think all right you want to read it wes all right uh this is from philip
01:45:55.680 modesty in the gym question mark obviously women are dressed awfully absolutely even christians but
01:46:01.400 men wearing tank tops and being topples etc in public gyms and just in public in general yeah
01:46:06.440 you should be modest in my opinion honestly like as much as you can i think like i liked the
01:46:11.920 comment or the guy who's like yeah my workout partner you know uh this cute girl that i'm you 1.00
01:46:15.840 know flirting with at the gym and in the gym is in my garage and that girl happens to be my wife
01:46:20.160 yeah like i think as much as you can work out at home i i did exactly that i have a home gym because
01:46:25.480 like gold gym the brothel like it's corporate wants you to see the two pictures oh it's the
01:46:30.200 same place brothel the gym same thing i would say if you're in mixed company though like i've even
01:46:35.400 taken if we go to the beach or something like that i i like wearing a shirt now um so i think
01:46:41.240 mixed company um yeah like what's the point if you're at the gym as a guy of taking your shirt
01:46:46.960 off or like you're there to work out if your shirt is off you're probably communicating something
01:46:52.300 else um so i think there's a modesty principle for men and for women obviously and you're talking
01:46:56.660 in public yeah the home gym company yes you and the boys of course a.m yeah i'm not you and the
01:47:01.220 boys yeah that's fine yes 100 yep okay your body shaming at 6 a.m it's you and your boys squatting
01:47:08.120 in the gym you're you're roasting you're just that's what i'm doing at least i i do i do last 0.97
01:47:15.660 comment on this i do like the idea of going back to um separated gyms by sex yes um west and i 0.92
01:47:23.300 schools and yep fair enough west and i were talking like in the modern world that we live in
01:47:28.340 um men and women probably need a place to get that sort of exercise that we're not getting anymore
01:47:33.560 Jim is not inherently wrong
01:47:35.500 but it would be great if we would 0.96
01:47:37.500 segregate those again
01:47:38.640 the Civil Rights Act
01:47:41.300 that's one of the reasons you can't do it 0.93
01:47:43.040 that's right, the Civil Rights Act 0.95
01:47:45.180 ruined everything
01:47:46.060 well thank you guys for tuning in
01:47:49.200 and Lord willing we'll see you again on Friday
01:47:51.140 do we know what the topic is on Friday?
01:47:53.320 oh we do, J.D. Hall
01:47:55.360 he's going to come on the show, we're excited about that
01:47:57.200 we're going to talk about
01:47:58.020 he's going to share some of his own
01:48:01.400 experience with
01:48:02.960 gatekeepers especially within the reformed world and um and how they're losing power and and what
01:48:10.520 we can do do about it uh the the gatekeeping phenomenon so that'll be on friday with jd
01:48:16.620 hall thank you guys for tuning in and god bless
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