The NXR Podcast - THE LIVESTREAM - Joe Rogan, Ian Carroll, & The Jews

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00:00:26.800 power is not what they tell you it is see it's not merely politicians that give speeches or

00:00:35.800 elections shifting hands no real power operates behind the scenes often through intelligence

00:00:42.500 agencies corporate interests and financial networks that manipulate nations without ever

00:00:48.620 stepping into the light this isn't new the british east india company didn't just trade

00:00:54.920 It ran entire nations, toppling rulers who got in its way.

00:00:59.560 The CIA, for instance, didn't just fight communism.

00:01:02.740 It overthrew governments that threatened corporate profits,

00:01:05.880 like in Guatemala with United Fruit Company. 0.70

00:01:08.840 From the House of Fuguer bankrolling kings in the 1500s

00:01:12.760 to Israel's intelligence operations blackmailing American elites, 0.52

00:01:17.680 the same tactics repeat over and over again.

00:01:21.320 Control the leadership, control the money, control the story.

00:01:26.320 Now recently, Joe Rogan sat down with Ian Carroll to discuss a subject that gets people de-platformed. 0.81

00:01:33.820 Elite Jewish influence in the realm of finance, media, and geopolitics. 0.98

00:01:40.040 The response was predictable. 0.97

00:01:42.220 Outrage, accusations, and the usual demand that some topics remain off-limits.

00:01:47.920 But why is this conversation so radioactive?

00:01:51.320 Why is scrutiny of elite power labeled as bigotry while real intelligence operations, like Epstein's network, are ignored?

00:02:01.220 And what about Israel?

00:02:02.940 Why does a foreign nation wield such massive influence over American politics?

00:02:08.600 Why do U.S. politicians fall over themselves to fund Israel's military, defend its intelligence operations, and suppress criticism?

00:02:19.060 Epstein's blackmail ring is just the surface.

00:02:22.420 But how deep does this control actually go?

00:02:25.540 This isn't about one group.

00:02:27.400 It's about a system.

00:02:28.660 And today, we're breaking that system down.

00:02:31.880 Epstein, Israeli intelligence, deep state alliances, and the weaponization of conspiracy theories. 0.54

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00:03:07.460 See, if you control the narrative, you control the people.

00:03:11.180 that's why some stories are silenced while others are amplified that brings us to joe rogan ian

00:03:18.120 carroll and the conversation that they just had what did they get right what did they perhaps

00:03:24.000 miss and what deeper connections remain unexplored let's get into it

00:03:29.420 all right welcome happy friday we're going to go ahead and hop right in we are going to address

00:03:45.040 what was said in this infamous interview between joe rogan and ian carroll so we're going to deal

00:03:51.020 with the what the substance uh like i just said in the cold open what we think is right what we

00:03:55.240 think is wrong, where they may have missed something, and where they perhaps nailed it.

00:03:59.700 So we're going to get into the substance answering the question, what?

00:04:02.740 But first, I want to address how and why.

00:04:05.820 Just briefly, right here from the outset, there's something that I think we need to

00:04:10.320 be aware of.

00:04:11.680 Two main individuals come to mind.

00:04:13.460 There's a lot of guys who've talked about Israel in the last couple years.

00:04:17.280 As suppression of speech has lessened from Elon buying Twitter, turning it into X, with Trump winning and the Biden regime, all these different things, there are certain things that we are able to talk about in the public sphere with a little bit more liberty than we would have been able to just a short while ago.

00:04:40.540 So you're seeing a spike in these kinds of topics, especially around Israel, especially, you know, the Jews and all these kinds of things.

00:04:49.400 So a lot of guys are talking about it.

00:04:50.920 That's my point.

00:04:52.200 But there are two guys in particular that I think have gotten a very unusually wide audience.

00:04:58.780 But I think there's a reason why.

00:05:00.140 Now, obviously, I think the first thing that people are going to say is they're going to say, well, the reason why is because they're controlled opposition and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:05:08.720 Yeah, maybe.

00:05:09.380 That's always a possibility. Controlled opposition is a real thing. I don't want to diminish that at all. That's that's real. There are there are guys who are bought and paid for to to appear to have a thin veneer of being, you know, opposition, being conservative.

00:05:27.280 but they're not. They're still on the side of the regime and everything like that,

00:05:34.660 still a part of the status quo. That's absolutely a reality. But in the case of two individuals,

00:05:41.340 Ian Carroll and Marta Maid, Daryl Cooper. So Daryl Cooper, he went on Tucker Carlson

00:05:48.680 a few months back. And then Ian Carroll, he just, you know, a couple of days ago,

00:05:52.660 went on joe rogan uh these are two massive platforms massive tucker carlson and joe rogan

00:05:59.080 and daryl's going on rogan's show he's coming down in austin he said he's going to be on

00:06:02.860 so you're going to see us right here on monday run it back no just kidding but he is going to

00:06:06.640 be on rogan oh he is this weekend yeah he's coming down and i don't know when it'll come out oh yeah

00:06:11.600 that's exciting um so so why these guys why daryl cooper and ian carroll again controlled

00:06:18.760 opposition is something that you know i've been seeing online you know from a lot of different

00:06:22.760 voices uh and platforms on x you know well it's just because you know blah blah blah blah blah

00:06:28.040 um maybe that's possible i think there's a lot of controlled opposition it's a real thing in the

00:06:34.040 case of these two individuals um ian carroll i know less about uh daryl cooper i actually do know

00:06:39.660 a little bit because i am friends with some of the guys who are friends you know personally

00:06:43.800 friends with him and have known him for uh several years before he caught his big break before he

00:06:48.820 went on tucker long before any of that um so i i will speak with more confidence in the case of

00:06:54.280 uh daryl cooper than uh ian carroll uh but i think that both there is a common denominator

00:07:01.340 all right there's a thread that runs through both of these two guys that i think um is at least part

00:07:07.060 of the reason why they're um they're getting so much limelight and uh and able to speak to such

00:07:12.040 a large audience on this very controversial topic of Israel. And here it is. One is because

00:07:22.180 both of them postured themselves with a disposition, just a general disposition of

00:07:27.020 humility. The number of times that Ian Carroll said on this interview with Joe Rogan,

00:07:31.100 I could be wrong, was a lot, a lot. And that goes a long way. And so I want to pick up on some of

00:07:40.760 these things that I observed in terms of before we get into what, the substance, looking at why

00:07:45.480 and how. And the reason why I think it's worth our brief investigation right here on the front end

00:07:52.500 is because if there are some profound, deep, sinister corruptions that need to be exposed,

00:08:01.360 right, the scripture even tells us, you know, take no part in the deeds of wickedness that

00:08:06.240 are done in darkness, but rather avoid them, no, expose them. The Bible actually says that we should

00:08:12.140 expose these things. So for the good of the righteous, for the good of our families, our

00:08:17.780 wives, our children, for the good of our nation, if it is true that the relationship with America

00:08:24.380 and Israel at a political level, all these different things, if that really is harmful and

00:08:31.040 negative, then as a patriot and loving your country and loving your wife and your children,

00:08:37.060 wanting the best future for your family, for your posterity, for your fellow citizens,

00:08:43.680 then we want to expose these things. We want to expose evil that righteousness might prevail.

00:08:50.440 And yes, I do think that there is a massively negative impact at a political level with Israel 1.00

00:08:58.740 and America, and then certainly at a religious and spiritual level, the whole Judeo-Christian 1.00

00:09:04.840 oxymoron, because that's what it is, it's an oxymoron, it's incredibly unhelpful. There are 0.95

00:09:12.160 so many Christians that, whether they would verbalize this and say it out loud, at least 0.59

00:09:17.680 at some subconscious level, they treat Jews, and at this point I'm saying Jews in a religious sense,

00:09:25.120 religious practicing jews as though it's some uh christian adjacent category it's not there there

00:09:33.560 are children of god and children of satan john chapter 8 is very clear with this um if god is

00:09:39.060 not your father and just for the record god you know people who say we're all god's children no

00:09:44.000 the bible doesn't teach that the bible does not teach we're all children of god the whole idea

00:09:47.720 of christianity is that upon conversion being saved by grace alone through faith alone in christ

00:09:52.400 alone. There's the ministry of adoption, the ministry of adoption, meaning I was adopted in

00:09:58.380 a literal sense as a baby. And if my birth parents took me to the courthouse, you know, as a baby and

00:10:07.060 said, we want to adopt this child, you know, they would look at my birth parents as though they 0.54

00:10:10.760 were, well, actually, we need to take this child away because you're intellectually so deficient.

00:10:16.980 You're not fit for raising the child. What do you mean you want to adopt this child? He's already

00:10:20.600 yours. So, the mere presence of the doctrine, theological Christian doctrine of adoption,

00:10:26.880 what it presupposes is if God is adopting people as his children, that assumes that not all people

00:10:34.820 are his children. I'll say that again. If God is adopting people as his children,

00:10:39.340 it presupposes that not all people are his children. And so, we are born into sin,

00:10:45.440 is what the Bible teaches. Now, that's not to say that people don't have a father.

00:10:51.880 The Bible is clear. Everybody has a father. But if God is not your father, then you still have

00:10:58.960 a father, but your father is the devil. That's what John chapter 8 teaches. And so until you

00:11:05.780 are born again and saved by the grace of God and his grace alone and have union with Christ,

00:11:10.660 the only begotten Son of God, we're adopted as sons of God by virtue of our union with the Son

00:11:16.960 of God, who is Jesus Christ. Apart from that, God is not your father. The devil is your father. And

00:11:23.720 so my whole point in saying that is to say that there are only two categories. You're either in

00:11:29.360 Adam and spiritually dead in sin, or you're in the second Adam, who is Jesus Christ and spiritually

00:11:35.300 alive and forgiven. And in a positional sense, you are righteous because of the imputed righteousness

00:11:42.360 of Christ, which comes by faith. And so, you're either wicked or you're righteous. You're either

00:11:48.500 in Adam or you're in Christ. You're either a child of God or you're a child of the devil. There is no

00:11:53.680 third Christian-adjacent category. Those who are practicing false religions, be it Islam or be it 1.00

00:12:01.800 you know, Buddhism or Hinduism or Judaism are lost. They are lost. They are not Christian 0.98

00:12:10.300 adjacent. They're not our brothers in Christ. They're not our allies. They are lost. They are 0.99

00:12:17.960 enemies of God, children of his wrath. And by virtue of being enemies of God, they are enemies

00:12:22.960 of God's people. And that doesn't mean that we can't pray for their conversion. It doesn't mean 0.98

00:12:27.040 that we don't do the work of evangelists. It doesn't mean that we need to be unnecessarily

00:12:31.400 Rood or any of these things, but we do need to recognize whatever concerns you might have of 0.93

00:12:38.360 Islam taking over Europe, you should have those concerns about Judaism. You should. Islam has 0.99

00:12:45.920 been one of the greatest, most formidable enemies of the church, the Christian church, for at least, 1.00

00:12:52.580 what, 13 centuries? I mean, all the Crusades, I mean, centuries of wars between Christians and

00:13:00.100 and Muslims. And so, Islam is a formidable enemy. The only difference between Islam and Judaism, 1.00

00:13:05.600 as far as I'm concerned, is that one of those enemies is overt and the other one is subvert. 0.87

00:13:11.260 One of them is overt and attacks from without, from the outside. The other one is subvert

00:13:16.460 and attacks, I believe, in many ways from within. Now, here's the point. As it pertains to Ian

00:13:22.660 Carroll and the interview that he just did two days ago on Joe Rogan and also with Daryl Cooper,

00:13:28.760 one of the reasons why they're getting such a massive stage to have these conversations

00:13:33.700 is because of the disclaimers, the qualifiers, the carefulness. So when I say that Judaism is

00:13:39.660 an enemy, and I think that Israel poses a religious and political and even cultural threat

00:13:46.160 to Christianity and to the West and to America, both of these guys, Ian Carroll especially,

00:13:52.980 he qualified that by saying, I don't mean each and every individual Jewish person at an ethnic

00:13:59.240 level. He's saying, no, no, no. You know, it's like Warren McIntyre, I think is good in terms of,

00:14:06.660 you know, Italian elite theory. Here's the reality. Is every individual American citizen

00:14:14.220 responsible for, to whatever degree they've embraced the degenerate values that we find

00:14:25.000 in the modern Western culture? Yes. To give a really specific example, is an individual person,

00:14:36.780 a man, let's just use a man, is he responsible under God and is he going to have to stand before

00:14:43.260 God and give an account for looking at pornography and being lustful, being perverted, being a pervert

00:14:51.400 according to the Word of God? Yes. But biblically speaking, so not just tactics and strategy,

00:14:56.920 but even morally and biblically, is he equally culpable, equally morally responsible as somebody

00:15:05.700 who is peddling pornography? And the answer is no. This is a clear biblical principle. Jesus

00:15:14.120 talks about this. He talks about there is a difference in degree of moral culpability for

00:15:21.000 the one who stumbles and the one who causes another to stumble. There's a difference in

00:15:26.560 stumbling. That is sin. So it's not to say, oh, you're absolved of guilt. No, no, you're guilty.

00:15:33.760 You're guilty of stumbling. 0.99

00:15:35.660 You're a sinner.

00:15:36.560 And the only salvation there is, is by grace alone, through faith alone, and Christ alone. 0.75

00:15:40.500 And apart from that, you will go to hell for stumbling.

00:15:43.620 But there is a distinction, a difference of degrees of moral culpability between the one

00:15:50.060 who stumbles and the one who causes another to stumble.

00:15:53.540 And so as it pertains to elite theory, one of the things that's catching on when you

00:15:58.540 look at just the globe and and modern phenomenons what is what is the lord perhaps doing and and

00:16:04.340 what what's going on populism is is one of those things that's going on whether it's al salvador

00:16:09.700 or whether it's um argentina or whether it's these united states we see a resurgence of populism

00:16:16.520 and um and and what you see in terms of people winning elections and ideas that are going

00:16:21.680 mainstream and all these kinds of things one of the common denominators is um saying hey you know

00:16:27.300 what? We're not going to just bash the American people. We're going to bash the elites, especially

00:16:33.860 the leftist Marxist regime in America that is more responsible. It's not that the American

00:16:42.460 people have done no wrong, but it's more responsible, morally responsible for the

00:16:48.520 downgrade in virtues and values in America over the past few decades. And so if you're speaking

00:16:54.860 of Argentina, if you're speaking of El Salvador, if you're speaking of America, it's one thing to

00:17:01.840 say, hey, you know what? The whole country sucks and the people are awful. That doesn't get a lot 1.00

00:17:07.660 of steam, doesn't get you a lot of traction. But to say, you know what? The people, yes,

00:17:12.900 they're morally responsible. They're not innocent people. They're not perfect people. There are

00:17:17.580 problems and they are responsible for those problems, but they are not equally responsible

00:17:22.260 to their leaders who have betrayed them, who've done this, who've done that.

00:17:25.100 If you're speaking of Great Britain, there should be a distinction in your rhetoric towards

00:17:32.240 the prime minister who right now is making the conscious decision to take the 70,000 0.68

00:17:39.320 predominantly white men in Great Britain and send them to die for Ukraine versus those 0.53

00:17:45.740 men themselves, right? 0.83

00:17:47.460 So if you're speaking of Great Britain, you just say, you know, England is just, they 1.00

00:17:51.060 deserve it, you know, and they're, you know, they're just they're cowardly, and they're weak, 1.00

00:17:54.520 and they're pathetic. There's some truth to that. But that dog won't hunt for the most part. That's 1.00

00:18:01.580 that's, but if you say, no, that the English elite, the elite politicians in England sold out

00:18:08.520 their native citizens and people, and allowed their country without any popular vote, nobody

00:18:14.340 voted for it, to be overrun by foreigners and particularly Muslims, and now are sending some 1.00

00:18:21.320 of the few native citizens, because it's not like, it's not 70,000 Muslims that are citizens now in 0.90

00:18:27.280 Great Britain that are filling, you know, the ranks of the military that are going to go to

00:18:31.240 Ukraine's aid. No, it's primarily the native citizens, the native people of Great Britain

00:18:37.420 that are going to go and pay this cost with their lives. And so it's like, no, the people are

00:18:42.060 actually being oppressed. The people are being replaced in real time, right before our eyes.

00:18:49.380 And the elites are the ones who are most responsible, most guilty. And so my point is,

00:18:57.420 Ian Carroll used that kind of rhetoric. He said, I could be wrong several times. He also,

00:19:02.300 the difference between just propaganda. Could it be propaganda, this whole interview? Sure.

00:19:07.120 but if so at minimum we can say this it is more effective propaganda because he admitted that he

00:19:14.780 could be wrong on multiple occasions he also cited sources and he also told people to come to their

00:19:20.940 own conclusions you go look it up you what do you think you you check it out you make your own

00:19:26.060 conclusion you make your own decision so so doing that instead of just saying this is how it is for

00:19:31.100 sure, 100%. That's another thing. And then lastly, as he spoke about Israel and the Jews, he didn't

00:19:37.700 say, and all Jewish people are X, Y, and Z. No, he specified, he used disclaimers and he said,

00:19:44.500 no, I think it's a lot of elites. It's a lot of leaders that are doing these things and it needs

00:19:52.160 to be exposed. And by just having those three disclaimers, I could be wrong. You feel free to

00:19:58.920 research this yourself and come to your own conclusions, and then specifying, distinguishing

00:20:04.420 between elites and each and every individual Jewish person. That right there, and Marta May,

00:20:12.120 Daryl Cooper, same kind of strategy. I think it's strategically superior and will get you into much

00:20:20.700 larger spaces to make a much larger impact. But it's also, I believe, not just strategically,

00:20:25.600 but i think morally and biblically it's it's it's more true it actually is true jesus talks about

00:20:33.680 you know to one will be given a light beating in eternity in terms of eternal consequences for sin

00:20:38.640 to another will be given a severe beating and there are degrees of sin not all sin is equal

00:20:43.840 that's a misnomer that is a common christian myth modern myth not all sin is equal and leaders are

00:20:51.900 always more morally responsible than those who are not privy to the information that they have

00:20:57.920 and who are following and don't necessarily know everything that's going on. And so as we have

00:21:03.020 these kinds of conversations, utilizing, you know, we're going to get into what the substance of what

00:21:09.140 was said, and we're going to be playing some clips from the interview, but first talking about why

00:21:12.500 and how, why is Ian Carroll on such a massive platform? Why is Daryl Cooper on such a massive

00:21:18.340 platform. Well, one, they both, and Daryl Cooper, I think much more, but they've done a ton of the

00:21:24.040 reading. They've done a lot of research. That's one. And two, they're painting both sides.

00:21:32.200 The last thing I'll say about the Ian Carroll interview that stood out to me was there was a

00:21:36.720 point, and I've said this in the past, but it's been a while since I've said it. There was a point

00:21:40.540 where he basically said, look, I don't think it's just some Jewish cabal where everybody is meeting

00:21:46.680 in a room together and you know has a whiteboard and is going over you know 10 different steps for

00:21:52.480 global domination the elders of zion or something that's right um instead he said no here's the

00:21:57.140 deal you've got you know you've got corporate you know uh entities and you've got politicians and

00:22:02.880 you've got you know this and that you know and and uh and three-letter agencies and all these

00:22:07.820 different major players and billionaires and x y and z and he said um but the reality is you don't

00:22:13.580 have to be, you don't have to get everybody in a room with some kind of cabal. The reality of just

00:22:21.760 the way that the world works, and he didn't say this because he's not a Christian, but I'll say

00:22:26.540 it as a Christian minister. It's either 1 or 2 Peter, one of Peter's epistles, where he says,

00:22:33.500 there is sin which is common to man. You don't have to get everybody in a room to collaborate

00:22:39.700 and scheme together. When the reality is, according to scripture and fallen nature of

00:22:46.740 humanity, apart from grace and salvation, which is in Christ alone, for the unregenerate person,

00:22:51.520 for the sinner in a world that is marred by sin, nobody is that special. Nobody is that unique.

00:23:01.480 People are not that unique. There are some common sins, which are common to all men,

00:23:06.580 according to the scripture and so you don't have to have the politicians meet with every head of

00:23:12.160 every fortune 500 company and and then have the companies meet with you know these guys over here

00:23:17.240 and those guys over there and get them all together and you know in the back room um that's

00:23:22.420 that's not my position it's never been my position um what i'm saying is no uh sin is common to man

00:23:29.100 and when people have power a lot of power whether it's political or economic or whatever it might be

00:23:35.300 when they have or media they just have a visibility is power if they have a lot of power

00:23:41.080 then then there are some common interests that you don't have to call someone and say hey i just

00:23:48.860 want to make sure um remember we're trying to make a lot of money and i want to just you know

00:23:52.980 make sure that you're staying committed to the goal of making a lot of money like you don't have

00:23:56.860 to call bill gates and and make sure that he's no no like he sees an opportunity um for money

00:24:03.220 and nobody has to call him he's just he'll be there right if he's like the vaccines to africa

00:24:09.300 i'm in yeah he's like oh yeah no more no more detail needed american yeah american tax dollars

00:24:13.840 nobody had to say like hey we've got this scheme or whatever no it's just like oh i can exploit

00:24:19.100 american tax dollars by pushing out vaccines and maybe they're good and maybe they're bad you know

00:24:24.340 to to third world countries i'm there nobody had to give him that you know that call um no it's it's

00:24:30.860 sin which is common to man he has the means right as a billionaire to sin at a much higher level

00:24:37.100 and the desire is there because the desire is common to all men apart from saving grace which

00:24:43.460 is found in christ alone and so um ian didn't put it into those theological terms but that's kind of

00:24:48.840 what he was expressing is just saying look like whether it's pizzagate which we'll get into a

00:24:54.020 little bit um or whether it's the epstein files or whether it's this that or the other um there are

00:24:58.920 some forms of wickedness that are really, at the end of the day, they might seem crazy

00:25:07.960 to us, but they're actually common. Sexual perversion is tale as old as time. Greed is

00:25:16.660 tale as old as time. These are things, and we're going to talk about this today, that are not

00:25:22.100 novel. They're not new. Different entities have committed certain sins over the ages. Maybe it

00:25:28.180 was this country, or maybe it was the government, or maybe it was these feudal lords, or maybe it

00:25:32.400 was, you know, at different times, different people were guilty. But there are certain things

00:25:36.240 that have happened throughout human history again, and again, and again, there's nothing new under

00:25:41.280 the sun. There's nothing new under the sun. And, and you don't have to prove that everybody's in

00:25:47.760 on it, in on it, meaning that they all meet once a year underground, you know, and do certain

00:25:53.680 animal sacrifices and that it's you know this in-person you know cabal of it is some of it

00:25:59.600 may be and we're going to get into that um but it doesn't have to be it doesn't so when you just

00:26:04.460 say look um this does not necessitate a formal official jewish cabal and you say look you can

00:26:10.580 do your own research and you don't have to believe everything i'm saying you say look i'm a fallible

00:26:13.960 person and i could be wrong and also let me distinguish between elites versus every single

00:26:19.160 individual Jewish person. You make those few kathiyots at the beginning and all of a sudden

00:26:24.460 that can make the difference in a million viewers versus 14 people on 4chan. So that's where I

00:26:32.740 wanted to start with in the beginning. I think that those are some lessons that Christians can

00:26:36.160 take away. And I think that they're lessons that aren't just strategically superior, but they

00:26:41.700 actually have biblical backing. There's actually a biblical reason for us to utilize those same

00:26:48.780 strategies okay good okay so that's a good transition um one of the things i wanted to

00:26:54.480 make sure we we say here at the beginning is some of the stuff that we're going to talk about in

00:26:58.220 this episode oh yeah is not going to be appropriate for children all right so not all of it um that

00:27:04.860 intro fine but some of the stuff we're going to talk about in later segments um is this is just

00:27:09.800 not a good episode for children to be listening to one of the things that joel you just said that

00:27:15.320 I want to pick up on, and then I'm going to hand it to Wes for a comment you made right before

00:27:18.780 we went live, and then maybe we'll hit our break and then jump into the clips.

00:27:23.780 One of the things that, Joel, you were talking about is the sins that are common to men

00:27:27.840 throughout history. And the reality is that the sort of things that are going on in our world now

00:27:33.680 with Jewish influence, or if you wanted to say, quote-unquote, Jewish conspiracies,

00:27:40.220 these sorts of things have happened many, many times. In the cold open, we mentioned the

00:27:45.240 The Fugger family, Jacob Fugger in the 15th century was a German textile manufacturer and trader.

00:27:53.740 And he took a different approach.

00:27:56.260 Once he made a little bit of money, what he did instead of developing more textile factories and more trading routes was he began to lend that money to politicians.

00:28:05.740 And he started lower with Dukes and things like that.

00:28:08.460 And then once he would lend them the money, then he would exert a measure of control on them.

00:28:13.840 And it got to the point where he actually, the Holy Roman Empire needed a new ruler.

00:28:22.980 And there were two main candidates.

00:28:24.680 The one was Francis I of France, and the second one was Charles of Habsburg, Charles V.

00:28:31.240 And the problem was that the empire's electors were notoriously corrupt.

00:28:36.080 And so what happened was that Jacob Fugger, because he had loaned money and made a lot

00:28:41.800 of money on interest. 0.85

00:28:42.600 Now, he was not Jewish. 1.00

00:28:43.680 That's the point of this. 1.00

00:28:44.680 But then we're going to tie it all back together here in a minute.

00:28:47.880 He loaned money.

00:28:49.060 He got a lot more money and interest.

00:28:50.920 He got a lot of power.

00:28:53.260 When the Roman Empire, the Holy Roman Empire, was looking for a new emperor, Fugger lent 850,000 florins, which was almost like you couldn't even imagine that kind of wealth at the time, to Charles V.

00:29:08.580 I actually can't imagine that kind of wealth because we just got a $300 super chat.

00:29:12.900 But go ahead.

00:29:13.360 okay okay no no that's fine we'll get to it yeah that's amazing i feel like an emperor right now

00:29:18.120 three hundred dollars super chat i'm i plan to buy up a bunch of land and there we go i'm gonna

00:29:23.740 make you guys serfs um so he because he was involved in getting charles v elected he then

00:29:33.780 actually exerted a stunning amount of control over not just the political but the religious

00:29:39.260 because this was the Holy Roman Empire,

00:29:41.000 he himself was influential in pushing the Catholic doctrine of selling indulgences.

00:29:46.360 And so his control, his purchasing of elections, his putting people—

00:29:53.440 they weren't necessarily elected officials,

00:29:56.480 but putting political personalities in power

00:30:00.260 ended up determining the rulers of nations, the rulers of the Roman Empire,

00:30:06.220 church doctrine like indulgences,

00:30:08.820 And he went on to just fund war after war, conflict after conflict, and basically had his way with Europe for decades.

00:30:18.680 Now, here's the point.

00:30:21.020 Most of us, when we look at these sorts of actors in history, when the light of history exposes what happened back then, most of us look back and we say it's good that we know that that's happening.

00:30:33.000 And at the time, probably the educated people would have liked to have known what was going

00:30:38.620 on as well.

00:30:39.600 The priests who are now selling indulgences probably would have liked to know that it

00:30:44.120 was because of a German textile trader that the Catholic Church largely changed its position

00:30:50.360 on selling indulgences.

00:30:51.840 The point is, when these sorts of things happen, yes, they've happened for all time, but it's

00:30:58.580 good when they get exposed, when the corruption and the backroom and the manipulation gets

00:31:03.840 exposed, as you said, Joel.

00:31:05.680 And Wes, I don't want to steal your thunder, but you said one of the problems in our modern 0.67

00:31:10.000 time, and the reason we talk about Israel, is that this seems to be the area where we 0.94

00:31:15.140 are not allowed to expose these backroom machinations.

00:31:19.340 And so, Wes, before we go to our super chat and then the break, I want you to kind of

00:31:25.260 unpack what you said about the darkness in this area that we live in now and why it's important

00:31:30.520 that we talk about it yeah well let's just rewind right to 2016 2017 trump wins the election and

00:31:36.940 what did we hear about for close to two to three years afterwards russiagate the interference of

00:31:43.540 russia russian intelligence allegedly into our election system i mean people were hauled in front

00:31:49.140 of the senate people were investigated people lost their livelihoods it was a huge deal that

00:31:54.500 dominated the headlines and at the core of it what was really being discussed was like probably

00:31:58.900 about 10 to 15 some of them just straight up memes like of jesus versus the devil and it's

00:32:03.480 like my child will vote for trump and my child will vote for clinton that's how conservative 0.71

00:32:07.320 we're about interference from russia intelligence into our election it's the same thing with china 0.97

00:32:11.780 right we've been saying for how many decades got to get ahead of china we're scared of china 1.00

00:32:15.140 chinese infiltration right we can't have tiktok which i'm in favor of so we have this standard 0.96

00:32:20.560 for all of these other countries and intelligence 1.00

00:32:22.620 because we recognize how damaging they can be.

00:32:25.100 They can do things to election.

00:32:26.140 They can sway the populace.

00:32:27.180 They can subvert, et cetera.

00:32:28.600 And yet there's this one country in the Middle East, 0.94

00:32:30.460 and it's not Iraq. 0.53

00:32:31.380 There's a country in the Middle East.

00:32:32.460 Is that Iran?

00:32:33.800 It's also not Iran either, or Afghanistan.

00:32:36.240 The country of Israel, where we never talk in those ways,

00:32:39.260 that we're worried that there could be the sharing of secrets.

00:32:42.020 They're worried there could be quid pro quo.

00:32:43.680 And why is that?

00:32:45.080 And I thought about it, like, why?

00:32:46.820 Okay, so we're talking about the elites,

00:32:48.340 specifically not necessarily all of the Jewish people.

00:32:50.560 But we claw it back, like, why is this such a sensitive topic?

00:32:54.180 And, guys, it is the post-war consensus.

00:32:56.860 There are people right now saying this episode that Ian did with Joe Rogan.

00:33:01.180 Jeremy Boring.

00:33:01.860 They're freaking out about it.

00:33:02.800 Yeah, Jeremy Boring.

00:33:03.500 CEO of Daily Wire.

00:33:04.540 Which I've just about ratioed him, but it was a retweet.

00:33:07.680 So I retweeted him, and I think he has, like, 7,500 likes on his,

00:33:13.180 and I've got 6,500 on mine.

00:33:14.520 I'm getting there.

00:33:15.460 That's incredible.

00:33:16.080 Go find it and help me out, guys.

00:33:17.200 but but they're they're freaking out over the criticism that they trafficked children right

00:33:22.900 and why why is it that this criticism could be seen as leading to something worse and going down

00:33:27.400 a dark path well that's how he started his tweet jeremy boring world war two the god king lower

00:33:32.000 case g god king which i'm not a fan of that title of the daily wire uh he said um today is a terrible

00:33:38.760 day that's how he started his tweet today is a terrible day for jews in america and so then i

00:33:44.680 retweeted it and said uh in quotation marks today is a terrible day in quotation marks and i said

00:33:49.900 oh my goodness what happened a terrorist attack um another you know another shooting you know like

00:33:55.380 you know and i i gave a few examples and then i underneath it i said nope a podcast today's a

00:34:02.020 terrible day yep because what happened a podcast that um there's two there because candace owens

00:34:10.700 at the same time i remember we got out of the studio on wednesday she was on theo von's show 0.74

00:34:14.740 and she brought up that typically a lot of pedophiles have found legal safe harbor in israel

00:34:19.240 true so it's that piece of information and then the ian carroll interview right right which again

00:34:23.520 are related to child sex crimes right we're not talking about influencing elections we're not

00:34:28.280 talking about memes we're not talking about money like terrible terrible things and these people

00:34:32.540 were very careful to say a limited subgroup within this not of course all american jews not of course

00:34:37.140 all israeli jews a small subset are doing terrible things and even to have that said like hey israeli

00:34:43.080 intelligence they were doing these terrible things guys we can't go down that path we can't do that

00:34:47.580 this is a dark day we have to like like hundreds of thousands of children trafficked whole

00:34:54.440 governments set up propped up torn down resulting in terrible devastation all across the world if

00:35:01.160 you're going to stand there and your position is going to be we can't talk about this because 80

00:35:05.120 years ago some terrible things happened if you're going to do that people are going to say thanks

00:35:09.180 for the warning we're going right by you two things happen one you end up like england where

00:35:14.600 you can't investigate rape gangs two the people who might be inclined to be reasonable and not 0.86

00:35:23.480 assume it's all jews get radicalized by the fact that they can't even talk about it they can't find

00:35:29.680 google search results about it it does no good point michael it does no good to say the conversation 0.54

00:35:35.960 cannot even happen you're absolutely right it actually makes it worse because it will

00:35:39.740 guys not having it is actually well it's funny because like one of the most uh frequent emails

00:35:46.020 that i've received throughout uh these last you know nine weeks of this series that i did with

00:35:52.580 pastor andrew isker on israel and judaism and the whole judeo-christian psyop and all these problems

00:35:58.880 the political side, the covenantal, you know, biblical side, ethnically, like, are these

00:36:03.840 actually, are they ethnically the descendants of Abraham or even the descendants of the

00:36:08.280 Jews at the time of Christ in the first century?

00:36:10.700 Spoiler, we actually don't think so.

00:36:12.900 You don't think so.

00:36:13.820 I don't think so.

00:36:14.640 I could be wrong.

00:36:15.680 There you go.

00:36:16.200 I could be wrong.

00:36:17.640 But that, you know, for Andrew and I, we don't think so.

00:36:20.840 And that's not to say that they don't have any, you know, any blood.

00:36:23.760 But we think that a lot of the first century Jews were destroyed in AD 70 with the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple.

00:36:32.600 And then many other ones who got out of Dodge and actually physically survived and were able to repopulate.

00:36:38.700 Many of them, they did so because they listened to the words of Jesus when he foretold exactly what would happen.

00:36:44.520 Not one stone of the temple left on another.

00:36:46.340 In Matthew 24, his Olivet Discourse, 40 years before AD 70, the destruction took place. 0.59

00:36:51.480 And so it was, in large part, the Jewish Christians who converted to Christ and Christianity who listened to Jesus and who survived.

00:36:59.860 And because they survived, and they survived because of trusting Jesus and his words and his prophecy and converted to Christianity,

00:37:08.100 it's very likely that they probably had embraced more the apostolic teaching of neither Jew nor Gentile and were comfortable with intermarrying.

00:37:18.240 and through intermarriage. So Ashkenazi Jews today may, it's possible. There's not a lot

00:37:24.960 of research on this. They've found catacombs underneath Jerusalem that they think are 2,000

00:37:30.060 years old. And they've done DNA swabs and tried to match it up. And like, okay, 87% match with

00:37:39.000 the average Ashkenazi Jew in Israel today. But then they match it up with Christians in one 1.00

00:37:47.760 certain, you know, geographic area in Palestine and found, oh, it's a 93% or 94% match. And so

00:37:54.220 they actually have more of this blood. And so the point is, we did this series, this nine-part

00:38:00.980 series, you know, ethnically, you know, what does this even mean? You know, that they're ethnically

00:38:05.560 Jewish, you know, what does it mean covenantally? What does it mean biblically? What does it mean

00:38:08.840 theologically? What does it mean politically? What does it mean nationally, right? That's the

00:38:12.420 problem when you say Jew. Are you talking about Israel the state as a national entity? 0.76

00:38:17.760 are you talking about um the jewish people ethnically and and what does that even mean

00:38:22.800 you know and are you talking about jews religiously you know those who practice

00:38:27.100 judaism are you talking like there's real jews christians right god's actual chosen people you

00:38:33.280 know those who uh by god god's grace have put faith in jesus christ but here's the point we

00:38:38.040 did that series all this back to what you said michael we did that series and it's been coming

00:38:42.660 out weekly and the most frequent email that i've received in terms of feedback to that series

00:38:47.680 was actually guys to the right of me to the right of me saying this actually helped me to pull back

00:38:54.520 a little bit right um it actually helped me to pull back a little bit and and why all this back

00:39:00.220 to your point the point that michael made just you know to remind the listener um because i've

00:39:04.840 been rambling for the last five minutes but um michael said that that when you when you say you're

00:39:10.120 not allowed to go there and uh and you know the epstein files will never be released and uh you

00:39:15.880 can't look into this and you can't make any criticism of that and and um we're going to

00:39:20.500 actually uh put forward bills that would make this kind of speech land you in jail or get you

00:39:26.540 fined in like 25 28 states in the united states right like your rfk junior is like hey i wanted

00:39:31.900 you to get seed oils out of my food and he's like best i can do is uh put you in jail for

00:39:35.820 anti-semitism he came out like anti-semitism is a public health risk right what what we wanted you

00:39:41.440 take care like i wanted you to make sure that we got tallow fries you know back back in you know

00:39:46.980 in all the fast food restaurants he's like yeah you know what best i can do is put you and here's

00:39:51.560 the question what do they have on him that's a great question we don't know for sure we're not

00:39:55.960 claiming yeah for sure they've got it over his head but see that's the point is the fact that

00:40:00.300 you just had that thought which is a perfectly valid thought um that's michael's point that's

00:40:06.880 the point all three of us are making, is when that's the way that you react, it does not make

00:40:13.900 people say, oh, well, you know what, I can criticize every nation on earth except this one,

00:40:20.640 because if I criticize them, I'll go to jail, right? And the reaction, if you think the reaction

00:40:27.420 is going to be, oh, well, then, you know, I'm going to be very hinged and very, very reasonable

00:40:32.540 and moderate on my position. Like, you're an idiot if you think that that's going to be the 1.00

00:40:37.500 response. No, the response is, what are they hiding? It must be even worse than I thought, 1.00

00:40:41.320 blah, blah, blah. And so when Andrew and I, by just virtue of two pastors, Christian pastors, 0.97

00:40:46.120 having this conversation and not sugarcoating it and saying, no, no, no, no, Judeo-Christian 0.84

00:40:52.360 is a psyop and it's bad. But also, disclaimer, here's a statistic, here's a quote, here's a

00:41:00.480 this, here's that. It actually helped a lot of guys who were further to our right say, okay,

00:41:07.160 you know what, that's all I want. I just wanted somebody to be willing to talk about it, somebody

00:41:11.220 to give a little bit of validation, you know, and stop telling me that I'm going to hell and

00:41:15.900 that I'm a Nazi, because I actually think that Israel might have some problems. And by virtue 0.81

00:41:21.740 of you guys being willing to talk about this, not willing to anathematize me and, you know,

00:41:27.600 damn me to hell over my views has actually made me step back. I actually feel more comfortable now

00:41:35.540 taking a more moderate position. But when you do the opposite, like the rise of anti-Semitism,

00:41:41.280 oh, it's because guys like, you know, Candace Owens, and it's because of like,

00:41:46.060 guys like Joel Webb. No, no, no. The rise of anti-Semitism is because Elon Musk bought Twitter

00:41:52.240 and and speech is freer than it's and then it's been in decades it is freer and people can read

00:42:00.740 statistics and people can find information and um everyone's telling them don't look there don't

00:42:08.320 look there don't it's a combat i think it's it's very simple um it is the combination of of everyone

00:42:15.320 telling you that criticizing israel is the is the worst moral thing you could possibly do

00:42:20.340 combined with elon musk buying twitter and a bunch of this information being prevalent let's show

00:42:26.120 the graph that actually shows support for israel is the lowest it's been at in about two decades

00:42:30.020 yeah nate let's do that gotta get a graph in um so this is a gallup poll that's been tracking

00:42:35.500 sentiment since the 2001 is when they started and so this is just a kind of it's a snapshot this is

00:42:41.800 in uh the middle east and what you can notice is it's not as though just since october 7th and

00:42:47.140 And then Israel's retaliation has been going down.

00:42:49.600 From its peak in about 2018, support for, sympathies for Israel,

00:42:55.680 they've declined to their lowest level in about two and a half decades.

00:42:58.980 Specifically in the Israel-Palestine situation.

00:43:00.920 Yeah, with the Israel-Palestine.

00:43:01.620 We are not just like this little microcosm and bubble.

00:43:04.240 I was red-pilled on this in about 2017.

00:43:07.200 So I've been following this now for about eight years.

00:43:09.460 This stuff has never been talked about to the mainstream level

00:43:11.740 that has been being talked about right now.

00:43:13.560 The phrase, nothing to see here, has convinced literally no one at any point in history.

00:43:20.060 So, all right, I think now's a good time to hit that super chat from Ben, and then we'll

00:43:24.240 hit our first commercial break.

00:43:25.500 So, Nate, if you could pull that up.

00:43:27.000 Ben, incredible.

00:43:28.340 Joel, you should read it.

00:43:29.560 Okay.

00:43:30.200 Ben Huffsteadler, he gave us $300.

00:43:32.740 Ben, thank you so much.

00:43:33.580 That's incredibly generous.

00:43:34.720 He says this, have to post in parts, part one, two, and three.

00:43:39.200 Part one, we lost our church home this last Sunday.

00:43:42.460 We are Reformed, and they are faithful, KJV, King James Version, the King Jimmy.

00:43:49.420 Wonderful people and faithful to the gospel.

00:43:52.720 There was a sermon, though, that was preached speaking about people who use other biblical

00:43:57.560 translations being of the devil.

00:44:00.900 In part two, the pastor prayed in the pulpit for anyone that uses those translations to

00:44:07.260 never step foot behind the pulpit of that church.

00:44:10.860 And then part three, he says, there are very few churches in our area.

00:44:15.440 We are actively working on relocating to Kentucky to be closer to our kind of people.

00:44:21.060 That's a good move.

00:44:22.220 Currently reside in Wyoming.

00:44:24.300 It's not the worst state. 0.84

00:44:25.620 But FYI, for your information, Wyoming is more Mormon even than Utah. 1.00

00:44:32.020 Don't love that. 0.98

00:44:32.400 And then one more of his part two that got put down over here, part 2.1.

00:44:36.900 he says, guidance on what that conversation would look like. I'm assuming he's saying,

00:44:42.240 if I confront my pastor and talk to him about this, guidance on that conversation would be

00:44:47.240 greatly appreciated. The area where we live is 98% Mormon. So again, he's emphasizing there are

00:44:53.440 not a lot of churches around. Go back down. King James Version, I think he says, is a disease. I

00:45:01.100 think what he means is the strict KJV-onlyism is a disease. I grew up in a church like that. 1.00

00:45:08.140 Okay, Ben, again, thank you for generosity. I'll try to make it quick. This is what I would say.

00:45:12.140 Number one, there is a distinction theologically between KJV-onlyism versus guys who hold to the

00:45:18.340 TR, the Texas Receptus, meaning it's the critical text versus the Texas Receptus. Meaning, do you

00:45:28.120 believe, right? So the Holy Spirit inspired the writing of the Bible. So the Bible is Holy Spirit

00:45:34.140 inspired. The theological argument for textus receptus is that the same spirit who inspired

00:45:40.980 the text also preserved it. And so it's saying, okay, what text? And the textus receptus is just

00:45:47.440 the received text. So there's critical text versus received text. The received text is the

00:45:53.300 manuscripts that we had available for hundreds of years of Chrysidom for a very long time before

00:45:58.960 we found other texts and were able to say, well, actually, you know what, these particular

00:46:05.860 manuscripts might not be the most accurate. There might be other manuscripts that we discovered

00:46:09.780 later that could be more accurate than the textus receptus, the received text. But the guys who are

00:46:16.660 on the TR side of the theological debate, they would say a big part, in a nutshell,

00:46:22.000 So their argument would just to say, it's Holy Spirit inspiration and Holy Spirit preservation.

00:46:28.300 So the same spirit that inspired the writing of the text, he also preserved the text.

00:46:32.680 And you're talking about hundreds of years, centuries, where these critical, these other

00:46:37.000 texts that have come in were not available, but this one manuscript was, one set of manuscripts

00:46:45.840 was, and that's the received text, the Texas Receptus, this one set of manuscripts that was

00:46:52.480 available before all these other ones were discovered and found, that's the received text

00:46:58.040 that was used to write the King James Version. The King James Version is not the only version

00:47:03.680 from the received text, the Texas Receptus. You also have the Geneva Bible was written from that,

00:47:10.240 but the King James is certainly the most popular, especially at the time and also today.

00:47:15.580 And so the argument is just saying, look, we talk about Christendom.

00:47:18.980 We talk about a golden age of the church and all these kinds of things.

00:47:22.420 If we've ever had a golden age of the church, it probably was during these time periods.

00:47:27.720 And the Bible that they had, the Bible that built the Christian empire of Great Britain

00:47:33.180 and that built America and that built all it was for the large part.

00:47:39.040 Go ahead.

00:47:39.840 The Puritans did not like the King James.

00:47:42.320 They did not use that one.

00:47:43.780 So the Bible that they brought with them was called the Great Bible.

00:47:47.000 But what text did it come from?

00:47:47.960 It was still Texas Receptus.

00:47:49.300 So the TR, yeah, okay.

00:47:50.480 That's still helpful.

00:47:51.260 Yes, yes.

00:47:52.120 So different, like I said, different versions.

00:47:54.240 Geneva, King James, and then the Great Bible.

00:47:57.040 And then the Great Bible, but all from the TR, the Texas Receptus. 0.82

00:48:00.760 And that built, I mean, you can argue that that was the text that built Christian empires

00:48:06.400 like Great Britain and America.

00:48:08.360 and so guys saying like look if if this other text is actually better critical text and some

00:48:15.040 of these newer manuscripts um then then the holy spirit would have would have made sure that we

00:48:20.440 didn't have you know a 500 or 700 or a thousand year period uh with it not being available um

00:48:26.960 this other text is what the holy spirit chose to preserve for centuries and it was sufficient

00:48:32.880 for chrysidom for building chrysidom that's the argument so my point is this i've got guys on

00:48:38.320 both sides of the aisle, friends, close friends. So, if you're a TR guy, this is my whole point,

00:48:42.860 there's a theological distinction from being a King James onlyist versus a Texas Receptus

00:48:48.900 appreciator. If you're a TR guy and you say, yeah, that received text, those manuscripts

00:48:58.320 were preserved by the Holy Spirit for centuries where we did not have an alternative and they

00:49:03.160 were sufficient for building Christendom. Um, if the King James was good enough, uh, for, you know,

00:49:08.940 for the reformers and it was good enough for this person and that person, uh, then it's good enough

00:49:13.000 for me. And that's my preferred, my preferred text that I would like to use instead of a more

00:49:19.300 modern text like the ESV or the NASB or the NIV or, you know, whatever. Um, that's a perfectly

00:49:25.840 legitimate position to hold. And I'm kind of partial to it. I think it's, I, I, if I had to

00:49:31.520 choose. I use, I, I got, here's the deal. It's like, it's hard to teach an old dog new tricks.

00:49:36.200 I, you know, with a young reformed and restless movement because of guys like John Piper and

00:49:40.520 others who were all about the ESV, I've been using the ESV and preaching from the ESV for 10 years.

00:49:47.140 And so I'm just, I know the ESV. I like most of the scripture that I've memorized. I memorized

00:49:51.880 in the ESV. And so it's, you know, so I still use the ESV a lot, but I'm trying to supplement with

00:49:57.040 the KJV, even in my preaching and stuff like that, as much as I can. But if I had to just say,

00:50:02.740 you know, like right now, gun to the head, you know, you have to answer it. Yeah, I think the

00:50:06.600 TR position makes sense. I think it makes sense. I'm a little bit partial to it. But there's a

00:50:12.520 difference in saying, I'm a TR guy, but if somebody preaches from the ESV, I still recognize

00:50:18.420 that as being the Word of God. There are others, though, who would say, not just the TR, they would

00:50:24.400 say, Geneva doesn't count. Great Bible doesn't count. It must, NKGV doesn't count, New King

00:50:31.000 James Version. It's got to be the King Jimmy. And anything else besides the King Jimmy is not even

00:50:37.220 the Bible. It's not even the Bible. It sounds like Ben's pastor's position. It sounds like

00:50:41.820 your pastor's, and I'm going to pray against those people. My parents had supporting churches that

00:50:47.140 when we went to visit them, we had to have a King James Bible, because if they found out

00:50:51.520 that that was not we were used the nkjb actually like for family devotions and whatnot if they had

00:50:56.640 found out which comes from the tr yes but if they had found out that we were not adhering to the

00:51:01.600 king james they would have cut all financial support by parents as missionaries yeah so

00:51:06.260 and it sounds like that's where ben's pastor is at so i that's my whole point is just i wanted to

00:51:10.640 give a little bit of nuance guys who are tr respecters um i think are good guys especially

00:51:16.820 if they say look we think this is superior it's better uh the fact that this is what was preserved

00:51:21.440 for hundreds of years and it built Christendom. That's a pretty strong argument. It means

00:51:25.480 something. You could even argue confessionally. Like I've heard guys make the confessional

00:51:29.220 argument both from the 1689 as well as the Westminster on doctrine of the word on that

00:51:33.840 particular chapter. It cites, both confessions cite multiple reasons, factors for how we know,

00:51:42.280 how we can affirm that the word of God is in fact the word of God. Now the highest reason

00:51:48.620 is the Holy Spirit bearing witness in our hearts. It's the Holy Spirit testifying within us for the

00:51:54.240 Christian, the one who's regenerate. The Holy Spirit bears witness that this is in fact the

00:51:58.540 Word of God. But it also then cites lesser reasons, but there's still reasons. And one of them

00:52:03.020 is the majesty of its style. Both the 1689, and this was compelling for me when I was looking

00:52:08.980 into this whole debate years ago, but both the 1689 and the Westminster site, one of the reasons

00:52:15.280 that we know that the word of god is the word of god is the majesty of its style um well what

00:52:20.000 what version of the bible at the time of the writing of these confessions were they probably

00:52:25.280 referencing well the people were probably reading the latin to be honest the vulgate sure yes that

00:52:31.680 that's probably true but but which also would be the tr with some with some papal corruptions

00:52:37.620 within it you know like they literally changed and in repentance to do penance in one particular

00:52:42.560 verse of the Bible. So it would have had a corrupted TR, but it still would have been

00:52:47.220 a variation of the TR, not critical text, but the received text. But my point is, even a high

00:52:55.820 school football team in flyover country in some conservative podunk town with their football

00:53:01.500 coaches, Christian, God bless them, and they recite the Lord's Prayer on Friday nights before

00:53:07.360 going out on the field when they recite when that texas football team recites the lord's prayer on

00:53:13.400 friday night before going out on the field for their big game uh they they don't use the message

00:53:18.460 right they're not they're not quoting eugene peterson right that it's it's our father who art

00:53:26.020 in heaven hallowed be thy yeah thy name thy kingdom come thy will be done um because it's

00:53:33.600 the majesty of the style. And so all that being said, I think there's a difference between a TR

00:53:40.240 guy, I think he has good reasons for the position that he holds, but still affirming these other

00:53:45.100 versions of scripture that come from the critical text rather than the received text are still

00:53:48.980 legitimate, but I believe inferior. Inferior is different than saying not the Bible. But a guy who

00:53:56.120 is more than TR, he wouldn't even understand the theological arguments that I just made. He knows

00:54:00.800 nothing about the confessions the majesty of his style they know like he's just the king james is

00:54:05.720 the bible and everything else is a perversion and it's not even the word of god it's not just

00:54:09.460 less accurate but it's it's literally not the word of god um i would just say at that level 0.66

00:54:14.760 it's not even because you could use the king james like you could go to that church and just

00:54:18.940 use the king james the rest of your life and be fine because it is a great version of the bible

00:54:22.660 but it's more so the attitude of that minister and and i would say one one part of that attitude

00:54:30.500 is it is a bit cultish it is a bit arrogant also besides just the moral side of the character side

00:54:39.020 of of that's a bit of an arrogant position to take and so i'd have some red flags about his 0.99

00:54:43.920 character there's also the intellectual side it's uh that's dumb your pastor uh is probably a little 1.00

00:54:49.940 bit dumb. And I do think that it's important for pastors, not every pastor is going to be a genius, 0.99

00:54:58.680 Lord knows I'm not, but I don't think that it's helpful if the pastor of a church is a full

00:55:07.640 deviation lower than the average congregant in terms of his intelligence. Pastors should be,

00:55:16.720 relatively speaking they should be intelligent um in order for the average congregant to actually

00:55:26.020 benefit from their teaching right i mean it's just i think that makes sense right if you have

00:55:30.520 a congregation the average iq is 100 you you know it probably wouldn't be in the congregation's best

00:55:35.440 interest to pick the guy in the room who has the lowest iq and say we would all like for you to

00:55:40.160 publicly speak to us weekly for 30 30 to 60 minutes what like that's just i think that's

00:55:47.780 silly it's like well that's not about intellect it's about the spirit of god yeah and i'm just

00:55:51.560 saying why not both right why not both um that he's that he loves the lord he has zeal for god 0.86

00:55:57.220 that he's anointed by the holy spirit uh gifted for the task and um and he's intelligent and so

00:56:04.380 I just think that the strict King James only position where anything else is not the Bible

00:56:11.840 and you're praying against them, it reflects two things. At the character level, I think bad

00:56:17.760 character, arrogance. At the intellectual level, the only people I know who hold that position,

00:56:23.200 I'm not trying to be rude, but I'll just say they all, everyone that I've ever met who holds

00:56:29.860 that position, I've never been impressed. I've never met a guy who holds that position. I'm like,

00:56:36.080 man, you are a titan intellect. And I think just in a general sense, you'd like to have a pastor

00:56:41.900 who is at least equally your peer intellectually or your intellectual superior, because he's someone

00:56:48.840 that you want to learn from. You'd like for him to at least be in the ballpark. So those would be

00:56:53.900 good reasons to maybe consider, the last thing I'll say though, those are good reasons to consider

00:56:59.580 a conversation i would not immediately leave especially ben said it sounds like he's looking

00:57:05.620 to move to kentucky right you're a couple months out there's something to be said for lord there's

00:57:09.980 not a lot of good churches in the area amen and he said they're good people don't burn the bridges

00:57:14.380 right yep yep don't end badly there's so don't leave badly i've seen so many people who were

00:57:20.060 moving anyways yep and not just with with you know my church but other friends who are ministers

00:57:25.540 and it's like this person um was was everyone knew he was military or he was whatever and he

00:57:30.900 was going to be moving geographically half by you know forced to leave the church in six months

00:57:36.600 but he got angry you know and and formally left the church two months before he moved that's just

00:57:42.780 that's just a foolish decision so especially if you're moving anyways wes and michael are

00:57:47.940 absolutely right hang in there yep hang in there and if it comes to the point we can't make this 0.89

00:57:53.060 move. So it doesn't sound like it's a done deal. The house is signed, but we're not going to be

00:57:56.840 able to make this move to Kentucky. In the reasonable future, we are here. That's when

00:58:00.680 you do say, okay, now we have to have the conversation. We got to go, got to find a good

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01:00:00.020 So here's something that we want to hit with our first reaction segment here.

01:00:04.620 So the idea in the Joe Rogan podcast, and it's all over the news, Epstein, Epstein files, Epstein's involvement, was he a CIA asset? Was he a Mossad asset? All of those questions.

01:00:17.580 One of the things that is, I think, I guess that we're trying to get across here, probably

01:00:22.540 not news to any of you all who are regular listeners, but the idea that Jeffrey Epstein

01:00:28.660 was not just like a lone wolf predator.

01:00:33.560 Likely, I think that the record, the historical record will show that his operation functioned

01:00:39.540 as an intelligence blackmail network.

01:00:43.600 And for whoever was controlling him, it was leverage to control a lot of American elites,

01:00:49.120 which has happened in the U.S. before. 0.96

01:00:52.620 In the 80s, it happened with the Franklin situation where they had a Republican, a black 0.96

01:00:59.920 Republican who was hosting sex parties and then using that even with underage children 0.97

01:01:05.600 and then using that as blackmail.

01:01:07.260 So this sort of play has been run before.

01:01:10.560 It's not new.

01:01:12.320 But the question is, who was Epstein connected with?

01:01:15.480 So we're going to actually jump over to a martyr-made clip that provides a little bit of context.

01:01:20.480 And then we're going to jump into what Ian Carroll and Joe Rogan talked about with that.

01:01:24.320 This is from 2022.

01:01:25.920 Yeah, the martyr-made clip.

01:01:26.980 This is not stuff that's come out since Trump has gotten off us.

01:01:29.120 This is from 2022.

01:01:30.340 We can roll it.

01:01:31.760 And said that Robert Maxwell had, quote, done more for the state of Israel than can today be said, end quote.

01:01:38.700 and his body was buried in the most prestigious plot in Jerusalem

01:01:43.260 on the Mount of Olives facing the Western Wall.

01:01:50.160 So you have this guy, Jeffrey Epstein.

01:01:54.840 His closest friend, girlfriend, procurer of young girls,

01:01:59.480 co-abuser of young girls,

01:02:01.160 is the favorite daughter of Robert Maxwell,

01:02:03.740 a lifelong, highly placed Israeli intelligence agent.

01:02:09.680 Epstein's patron is Les Wexner, a billionaire with ties to Israeli intelligence through the

01:02:15.300 mega group and a lot more further involvement with other Zionist causes. And Wexner, for reasons

01:02:20.680 nobody can understand, turns his entire operation over to Jeffrey Epstein. Epstein, according to

01:02:29.540 several people who knew him back in the 1990s, used to claim to be working with intelligence

01:02:34.560 agencies the u.s attorney who oversaw his initial case that put him in jail which included dozens

01:02:43.200 of girls claiming that he had molested them cut him a sweetheart deal guaranteeing there wouldn't

01:02:49.380 be no federal prosecution of his crimes for him or anybody who was involved even if those people

01:02:54.880 weren't named yet and it came out later cut him that sweetheart deal and is on the record saying

01:03:01.940 that he did it because he was told by his bosses that Epstein belonged to intelligence.

01:03:08.300 Epstein was closely connected with Ehud Barak, former head of Israeli military intelligence.

01:03:14.460 He dispensed money to Barak through the Wexner Foundation and later funded a business Barak

01:03:19.420 set up with other former Israeli intel officers. Epstein got his first job teaching math at an

01:03:27.300 elite high school from a former OSS agent, and was later arrested and committed suicide

01:03:33.760 under the watch of that guy's son, Bill Barr, who also worked for the CIA.

01:03:40.400 Early on, he had associations with international arms brokers like Douglas Lees and Adnan Khashoggi,

01:03:46.720 which reminds me, I haven't even mentioned the fake Austrian passport from the 1980s that

01:03:52.600 had epstein under a false name as a saudi citizen which was found in his safe along with many of the

01:03:58.240 thousands of images of underage girls

01:04:00.480 wes clipped that one wes i love how you just dropped that uh the clip to end right at the

01:04:09.600 end there with wait the fake passport it's like but wait there's more this is at the end of a

01:04:13.760 five hour episode and someone jeremiah mentioned it it's a brutal listen but it's it's incredible

01:04:19.600 because and we'll move on quickly but what he's describing is in all of these countries at the

01:04:25.040 high levels the elites trafficked children right abused even murdered in many cases literally like

01:04:32.040 that was the sport was murder and then we have jeffrey epstein he traveled with bill clinton

01:04:37.440 like 50 times the president of the united states the one whose wife almost beat trump in 2016

01:04:44.920 so there's this idea and that's it's what would be wanted to believed there's this guy jeffrey

01:04:50.180 epstein man he was a pedophile and even his girlfriend uh elaine maxwell was in on it no no

01:04:55.760 no no no no no this man had decades and billions of dollars doing something way bigger than himself

01:05:01.800 and and the point is 2022 we've known this yep this is this is on apple podcast this is now on

01:05:09.180 joe rogan and that fact needs to make you angry there are there are hundreds of families in

01:05:14.860 florida where he had a lot of his estate and did a lot of this their kids went missing their kids

01:05:19.700 died and the post-war consensus that runs cover the first time he gets arrested nope cover for

01:05:25.280 him well he's an israeli intelligence why can't we question israeli israeli intelligence operations

01:05:29.620 trace it all the way back post-war consensus and real family we've talked about it real children

01:05:34.740 but we have new listeners every single week when you say post-war consensus what you're saying is

01:05:38.740 it. Um, it's the whole, it's, what is the post-war consensus? It's everything that I don't

01:05:43.420 like is Hitler. Uh, what is the post-war consensus? It's, um, it's the, the, the never again

01:05:49.000 sentiment. It's, uh, if we criticize Jeffrey Epstein and recognize that it's more than just

01:05:54.640 him as an individual, but that he was standing in as representative as Israeli intelligence with,

01:06:00.360 with strong connections to our own American elite, uh, leaders and politicians, but also

01:06:05.340 israeli you know politicians and that it's beyond just him as an individual it's the same kind of

01:06:10.640 strategy honestly it's it's similar to what they did with biden right all of a sudden the the trump

01:06:15.240 and biden debate happens and and everybody you know just starts feigning ignorance they're like

01:06:21.080 oh my gosh i can't believe that uh did you i had no clue that biden had dementia it's like

01:06:26.120 everyone knew he had dementia we've been saying it in the primaries in 2020 everyone knew and it's

01:06:32.180 like oh i i had like who's the guy there's some some guy who literally talked about how he was

01:06:36.400 sharp as a tech and how it was a conspiracy theory and now he's writing a book yeah about how people

01:06:41.540 covered up biden's dementia not jake tapper you covered up biden's dementia but here's my point

01:06:47.100 when when all of a sudden you know the winds uh shifted and there was no longer a public sentiment

01:06:53.040 and favoritism for biden they couldn't they couldn't manufacture it anymore because because

01:06:57.300 it just became too obvious and plain for all to see then what did they do they said you know what

01:07:02.160 And this is the nail in the coffin that reveals that the Democrats as a whole have all been corrupt and in lockstep together, you know, using Biden as, you know, Bernie's weekend, you know, weekend at Bernie's, you know, in the White House for the last, you know, three years.

01:07:18.660 Like, no, they didn't do that.

01:07:20.240 They all said, oh, my goodness, I can't believe that one guy has been fooling us and there's a problem with him, but all of us are innocent.

01:07:30.220 And it's the same thing.

01:07:31.220 that's what they want to do with they want to say oh my goodness i can't believe that one guy

01:07:34.680 jeffrey epstein was uh a pedophile yep um no island no by virtue of his position and his

01:07:41.920 connections and his money and his funding and his funding and like no no jeffrey epstein does not

01:07:47.880 there's no scenario where he stands alone right the reason he had his connections who he indicts

01:07:54.820 was his mentor les wexner a russian jewish man who was part of the foundational group that found

01:08:00.140 of what was called the mega group and the mega group was literally a conglomerate of billionaires

01:08:04.660 and business owners or owners all with jewish influence and that's how epstein got the

01:08:09.320 connections he did that's how he got introduced les wexner signed over to him power of attorney

01:08:14.000 for his estate for victoria's secret les wexner bought victoria's secret early on that's not great

01:08:20.200 literally signed over power of attorney epstein used that actually to abuse different women and

01:08:25.320 Power of attorney allows him to make decisions for the company without having to have Les Wexler's permission.

01:08:31.760 So what it does is it allows Wexler to plead ignorance, to claim ignorance.

01:08:37.380 Joel's not signing power of attorney for right response over to me.

01:08:39.540 Let's just say that.

01:08:41.480 Well, it's interesting because, and I've said this on the podcast before, but it bears repeating here.

01:08:48.000 The Democrats were upset that Trump ran as a Republican.

01:08:52.180 He had been a lifelong kind of New York Democrat.

01:08:55.140 He kind of turned on them and ran as a Republican in 2016.

01:08:59.060 However, the vitriol against him turned up to an 11 when he started announcing that he was going to be going after child trafficking rings.

01:09:09.860 Before that, it had just been, you know, basic politics.

01:09:13.280 But I vividly remember he came out and he just said, there's all this child trafficking stuff going on.

01:09:19.860 We've got to shut this down.

01:09:20.820 Children are missing.

01:09:21.460 And he shut down several of them, and it was almost the next day that the media and the hatred against him moved from just political animosity to real vitriol, real hatred.

01:09:37.020 And I don't know.

01:09:38.220 Someone said in the comment Trump was friends with Epstein.

01:09:41.940 I don't know that they were friends.

01:09:43.160 There are pictures of them together.

01:09:44.940 Yep.

01:09:45.060 The reason I don't think that Trump, by the way, for the record, if Trump is on the Epstein

01:09:48.820 list and can be proven to have been involved in that, then we are going to condemn him

01:09:53.200 as much as we would condemn anyone else.

01:09:55.920 But you think if they had that on Trump, they wouldn't have run that?

01:10:00.160 Well, the only reason they wouldn't is if it's like a bomb, like it takes him out.

01:10:06.900 Maybe, but at that point, they had all the media.

01:10:09.360 They could have spun that in a whole lot of ways.

01:10:12.180 They were both socialites in New York City in the late 90s.

01:10:14.820 and it's well known about donald trump and this is terrible he liked not young girls as an underage

01:10:20.320 but he loved loved some models he was a playboy yeah that's a terrible abhorrent lifestyle they

01:10:25.660 had a falling out it seems like about 2004 so they were friends they'd go to each other's mansions

01:10:29.640 what have you but about at this point 2004 is 21 years ago about 21 years ago it seems like there

01:10:35.300 was a split and rumor are rumors are it was because uh trump wanted nothing to do with it

01:10:39.780 Nothing to do with the stuff that Epstein was soliciting and offering and all of that.

01:10:44.200 So we acknowledge the pictures are out there.

01:10:46.020 It's true they were friends.

01:10:46.920 They ran in the same circles.

01:10:48.200 But they didn't have a fallout, and it was not three months before he ran for president.

01:10:51.600 It was 21 years ago from today.

01:10:53.580 Yeah, that's a good point.

01:10:54.440 All right, so on the Joe Rogan episode, Ian Carroll gets into this question of Epstein.

01:10:59.420 So, Nate, let's go ahead and run that clip in relation to the martyr major.

01:11:03.400 All right, we've got over 1,000 people that are currently watching, and we have 80 likes.

01:11:08.040 what in the world guys get it together some of that is x which doesn't take it the same way

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01:11:24.320 okay what do we think about that clip i think that well personally i don't think we're ever

01:11:30.280 going to see the epstein list i don't think so it's more valuable even i don't know if it even

01:11:34.540 exists i mean we'll see it like with you know like the like thomas jefferson's version of the bible

01:11:39.720 you know like half of it's cut out i'm not even convinced it exists i think the idea of the epstein

01:11:44.320 list is a is a better political tool for manipulating people who think that they're on that list than

01:11:50.980 any tool that that they could possibly have i think the trump administration over promised we

01:11:56.200 were talking about this in the group chat earlier today but like like what's why now the slow roll

01:12:00.980 out and it's easy one thing on the campaign trail right you're just you're throwing everything

01:12:05.120 against the wall i'll give you all a million dollars you say hey we'll declassify with this

01:12:09.400 side or the other you get into it and you're like holy cow if all of this comes out this

01:12:14.820 allyship that we have that the whole world is witness to and that a certain country is going

01:12:21.040 to be very mad it falls apart if we publish this list and all of this is laid out and it's clear

01:12:26.380 how interconnected this all was where even possibly he was funded gilane maxwell his

01:12:31.700 girlfriend robert maxwell was massad her father if that comes out that endangers it and so i think

01:12:37.960 trump pam bondi as the attorney general cash patel like shoot we promised this but i don't know how

01:12:43.740 we get this out without it either again being 95 redacted which is people unlike or if it's

01:12:48.660 unredacted or less censored it'll destroy our relationship with israel imagine that best case

01:12:55.800 scenario not for us but in the political calculus imagine the best case scenario is that the cia was

01:13:02.520 behind it right that that would be the best because if if it was israeli intelligence from osad

01:13:09.000 the funding coming through uh lex uh wexler less wexler that like you said west that will

01:13:15.600 completely undo the the political trajectory that the u.s has been on at least with the middle east

01:13:22.180 It would just uproot that 0.78

01:13:24.700 And tear that plant out of the ground 0.94

01:13:27.200 Let's play clip one because that talks about

01:13:29.080 How getting into these intelligence agencies

01:13:31.080 You guys should know how they operate

01:13:32.940 A lot of dark power and dark money

01:13:34.400 So let's play clip one Nate

01:13:35.720 This is the one if you need to know

01:13:38.000 That starts with

01:13:40.960 It became this thing with multinational corporations

01:13:43.400 It became this thing with multinational corporations

01:13:44.800 He's looking for it

01:13:47.620 We're throwing Nate a curveball right now

01:13:49.360 Nathan's looking for it

01:13:50.280 Okay he's got it here we go

01:13:52.180 Right there. That's what I was talking about at the beginning of the episode. Some of you are

01:13:57.060 tuning in right now, so maybe you didn't see that part, but I think that's vital as Christians that

01:14:02.500 we understand this because there's a very clear biblical and theological principle here. Notice

01:14:07.320 he says, you know, well, the bankers and politicians and crime syndicates and, you know,

01:14:13.500 all these different parties, he says, but it's not some formal Jewish cabal. It's not that they're

01:14:20.240 all getting in a back room with the lights turned down, you know, and they're twisting their, you

01:14:25.860 know, their evil mustaches and twiddling their fingers. He says, no, their interests align.

01:14:32.360 And that right there, Ian Carroll is not a Christian. And so, you know, he's not going to

01:14:36.600 cite the scripture, but that's actually a biblical principle. That's exactly what I was talking about

01:14:40.880 where Peter, inspired by the Holy Spirit, he talks about sin, which is common to man, right? So

01:14:47.140 evil entities, multiple entities that are not necessarily formally in an alliance, not necessarily

01:14:55.200 formally partnered, but informally, they are working towards the same aim because they all

01:15:01.220 stand to benefit and they all have the same internal desire towards something that is morally

01:15:07.780 reprehensible. Well, what is that in theological biblical terms? That's called sin, which is common

01:15:14.320 to man. That's what Peter says. There is sin, which is common to man. Romans 1 talks about how

01:15:21.640 there is a progression of sin, and eventually, at later stages of sin progressed, and this can

01:15:29.860 happen at an individual level. This can also happen at a societal level. But there are later

01:15:35.880 stages within the progression of sin where you have individuals, the phrase is used in Romans

01:15:41.040 chapter 1, it says, inventors of evil. So there are various, I would argue, various individuals,

01:15:48.660 like a Jeffrey Dahmer, or there are certain groups of individuals, peoples, in various 0.93

01:15:56.000 places and periods of time that were particularly malevolent, like the Ninevites. When the king 0.56

01:16:06.080 repents at the preaching of Jonah and calls the whole nation, Nineveh was one of the five capital 0.62

01:16:11.940 cities of the Assyrians, and he calls the whole city to repentance. The only sin in particular 0.80

01:16:19.280 that's named specifically is the violence in your hands. And the Ninevites, archaeologists have

01:16:25.460 discovered that they would fillet their victims, and as far as we know, alive even, brutal forms 0.92

01:16:31.760 of torture, filleting their victims and different peoples that they conquered alive, skinning them

01:16:37.540 and then hanging their skin on the outer walls that surrounded and fortified their cities as a

01:16:43.840 sign of dominance and to strike fear into any of their opponents who would seek to rise up against

01:16:50.420 them, to dissuade them from that ambition. And so I would argue the Ninevites or the Assyrians at 0.94

01:16:57.480 that particular time. So particular people in a particular place at a particular time

01:17:01.660 that they corporately at a societal level had in this progression of sin had progressed to the point

01:17:07.600 of being particularly sinful or uniquely sinful and even innovating unique forms and degrees

01:17:17.220 of sin that is not common to all people in all places in all times. So there are particular

01:17:24.480 peoples and people, peoples and individuals, people that in various places and in various

01:17:32.520 times do ascend to higher degrees or even what is at least somewhat novel categories

01:17:42.780 of sin throughout history.

01:17:45.640 That does happen, but that's unusual.

01:17:48.680 That's why we would look at certain peoples and say the Mongols, you know, or this person 0.90

01:17:54.960 were uniquely sinister, uniquely evil. 0.94

01:18:01.320 You know, they're committing sins that, you know, everyone's a sinner, but this, man,

01:18:06.040 this is too far.

01:18:07.100 This is just absurd.

01:18:08.260 Or I can't believe that so-and-so did this or this people did that.

01:18:13.040 That does happen.

01:18:14.340 But what makes it absurd, what makes it unique is that it does not happen often.

01:18:18.680 It's unusual. But Peter uses the language of sin, which is common to man. And what Ian Carroll,

01:18:24.600 I believe what he's describing, he doesn't have the theological framework for it or the vernacular,

01:18:29.500 but what he's describing is the principle that is rooted in scripture, that there is sin,

01:18:34.040 which is common to man. And so, you know, that's one of, you know, noticers, for lack of a better

01:18:40.840 words, you know, one of the pushback that they often receive from guys who are like,

01:18:48.060 oh, this is anti-Semitism, this is, you know, hateful, the hate speech, this is racism,

01:18:52.760 this is whatever.

01:18:53.720 They'll say like, well, you're giving yourself over to unproven conspiracies of, for instance,

01:19:02.220 things such as a Jewish cabal. 0.65

01:19:04.380 And I think one of the great arguments, and this is one of the reasons, this is back to

01:19:07.820 the first segment of the episode in terms of not just what was said in this interview with Joe

01:19:11.640 Rogan and Ian Carroll, but in terms of how it was said and some of the strategies and tactics

01:19:16.760 that we can employ as Christians so that we can be heard by a larger audience and be more

01:19:22.320 compelling and more persuasive so that we can obey the scripture and take no part in deeds that

01:19:27.840 are done in darkness, but rather not just avoid them, but expose them. Well, one of the ways to

01:19:32.400 expose successfully, expose deeds that are done in darkness is by being persuasive, by being

01:19:39.060 compelling. And one of the ways to be compelling and persuasive to where you can't easily be

01:19:43.640 swatted down or dismissed is by avoiding grandiose claims, hyperbolic language that can

01:19:53.680 easily be disproven. Some kind of widespread secret Jewish cabal is difficult to prove.

01:20:02.400 but saying you know what there doesn't require some jewish cabal because there are sins which

01:20:09.560 are common to man right meaning that everybody doesn't have to formally uh get in a room you

01:20:15.460 know three times a year you know and perform rituals and i for the record we actually think

01:20:20.340 some of those things do happen and not necessarily exclusive have happened in the past and not

01:20:25.320 necessarily exclusive to Israel, but there have been evil entities and formal alliances and groups,

01:20:33.920 you know, cults that get together, you know, in the woods, you know, with a full moon and do this

01:20:38.340 blood ritual. Like, those things have happened. So, we're not saying it never has happened and

01:20:42.820 it couldn't happen again. But what we are saying is that that's not necessary to prove the point.

01:20:49.220 The point is that you can, because sin is common to man, we're not talking about filleting people alive, we're talking about sexual perversion, that is a common sin, and financial greed, it's a common sin.

01:21:04.720 right um those two alone um uh girls and gold perversion and greed those are sins which are

01:21:14.680 common to every man uh but the reality is that every man doesn't have the same means by his

01:21:19.780 station in life is not every man is a billionaire not every man is a prime minister not every man

01:21:25.780 is a part of of some kind of you know three-letter agency with with access to this and access to that

01:21:32.300 an ability to to cover his trail and all like so what we're saying is these are sins which are

01:21:36.780 common to man and men of means will be able to you know have those same temptations that all of us

01:21:43.360 have but achieve them um in in a much more um you know higher degree much much more uh widespread

01:21:52.440 ways and you don't have to pick up the phone and all meet in a in a secret underground layer

01:21:57.840 in order to make sure that you're on the same page like hey i just want to make sure that

01:22:02.020 you're greedy i'm greedy and i want to make sure you're greedy too you don't have to make that

01:22:05.480 phone call you can just bank on it right you know no pun intended you know but like you can bank on 0.68

01:22:10.740 greed um you absolutely can of course you can um you can bank on perversion you can bank on this 0.63

01:22:17.240 you can bank on that and uh and so unregenerate men unbelievers especially unbelievers from a 0.90

01:22:26.120 nation that's known in terms of the religion not everybody practices but but for those who do 0.70

01:22:30.540 is Judaism, which is specifically known as rejecting Christ and believing not only that

01:22:37.100 he wasn't God, he's a prophet, but he's not a deity. No, but that he was a blasphemer. He was

01:22:42.140 a liar and that he's not just lacking in deity, but that he's terrible. Judaism has a very, 1.00

01:22:50.480 very negative view of Christ. And so, if we're talking about a nation that has been shaped by 1.00

01:22:55.640 religion that's not just something other than Jesus, but something that is anti-Jesus,

01:23:02.940 against Jesus, anti-Christ. If you're talking about that nation that's been shaped by that 0.97

01:23:08.180 religion, and then just because they're human beings that are fallen in Adam, like all of us,

01:23:13.920 apart from grace in Christ, and have sin which is common to man, and if you're talking about 0.71

01:23:19.420 not every, each and every individual Jewish person, he gave that disclaimer and covered

01:23:24.060 basis in an earlier clip that we showed, but particularly the elites, those who have means,

01:23:29.680 then yes, of course, like, none of this is preposterous, none of this is far-fetched,

01:23:34.600 none of this is impossible. Yeah, it's, all of that is perfectly reasonable, and when you frame it

01:23:42.400 with that kind of language, not only is it theologically accurate, because you can quote

01:23:47.800 scripture, but it also is, I think it's the morally superior way to frame the argument,

01:23:53.560 because it's biblically faithful, but it's also the strategically superior way to frame the

01:23:58.860 argument. And by framing it like this, that's what will allow you to have these kinds of

01:24:05.200 conversations that need to happen, because if there is real evil, it really does need to be

01:24:09.560 exposed. We have a biblical mandate to do precisely that, but it'll allow you to have

01:24:14.120 those conversations instead of with 14 people, you know, on some secret chat, it'll allow you

01:24:20.360 to have that conversation with 14 million people on Joe Rogan. And I think that that matters. I

01:24:27.140 don't just think that Ian got the call, and not the shut it down call, but the call from Joe Rogan.

01:24:34.280 I don't think he got that call because Joe Rogan is bought and paid for, and Ian is bought and

01:24:39.220 paid for, and it's just a classic case of controlled opposition. I think he got the call

01:24:45.000 because he has proven a short trajectory.

01:24:49.280 He's only been doing this by his own admission for a while,

01:24:51.860 but for the time that he has been doing this

01:24:54.080 in the spotlight with a fairly large following,

01:24:57.800 he has been doing it in a way that is not unhinged.

01:25:01.140 He's been giving the disclaimers,

01:25:02.980 not every single Jewish person,

01:25:04.480 or I don't necessarily think it requires a Jewish cabal, right?

01:25:07.480 It's just aligned interest, right? 0.93

01:25:09.960 Or we would say sin, which is common to man,

01:25:12.740 or the disclaimer of, I could be wrong, or you look into it for yourself.

01:25:17.640 That we need, as Christians, we need to embody that language.

01:25:22.360 Because one, I think it's faithful to Scripture, so I think it's morally superior.

01:25:26.080 Two, because it's compelling, and it is strategically superior,

01:25:30.560 so that we can be compelling to more people and not just 14 people in an echo chamber

01:25:36.320 who already think the same things that we think.

01:25:39.420 So I wanted to point that out.

01:25:40.800 Yeah, let's have our last commercial break

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01:27:55.280 and all of finance for chrysidom all right welcome back we we got the call so not really but

01:28:04.680 so joe rogan experienced that content when it's hosted he actually does copyright strike it this

01:28:10.440 is something that's come up before so we tried playing other streamers and uh as you guys

01:28:15.300 experience at least on the youtube side of things they basically shut it down cooled it off for a

01:28:19.540 couple minutes so we can't play any more clips i recommend going to watch it it's you know two

01:28:24.580 hours 45 minutes language warning language warning not with kids in the car um so we'll hit we'll hit

01:28:29.860 the content from the last two clips that we had hit the super chats alex fick put up a great great

01:28:34.540 short comment here he donated 9.99 thank you alex and he said getting back to joel what you talked

01:28:39.360 about different people are they necessarily all in league you know around the table he said different

01:28:43.540 people who are separated never communicate coming to the same ideas and committing terrible things

01:28:48.380 is also evidence of the demonic at play that's a great point yeah and what's profound is les

01:28:53.260 wexner literally this is a i think it was a new yorker profile article he's like yeah i'm followed

01:28:58.500 around by this jewish demon that drives me to greed he's like it came to me later in life

01:29:02.840 it's demonic i know it i feel it inhabit me and it drives me to be greedy greedy greedy his own 0.92

01:29:09.280 words freely admitted was totally like yep this is uh this is what follows me around this is what

01:29:15.400 motivates me this is the guy who bought it was victoria's secret abercrombie and fitch and then

01:29:20.400 bed bath and body works made them into what they were gave epstein his millions built the mega group

01:29:25.820 that actually connected a lot of these jewish and zionist motivated groups so that's a great

01:29:30.980 question um often the demonic is at play too physically the people may not be together that's

01:29:35.760 a great spiritually uh right yeah you don't you don't need to um yeah one you just have the fallen

01:29:41.940 sin nature and uh and sin which is common to man uh that that was the theological argument i'm

01:29:47.780 making. And Alex Fick just presented another equally valid argument. There's two, sin is

01:29:56.560 common to man, the fallen nature. Two, demons are real. And they, in some cases, will possess

01:30:03.260 people. I don't believe a Christian can be possessed, but unbelievers. And certainly, 1.00

01:30:07.700 if not full-on demonic possession, they certainly push and prod and influence people. And so,

01:30:16.120 having demonic powers that are influencing multiple people, even in different places

01:30:22.160 around the world, but all in a similar direction, is absolutely plausible within a biblical

01:30:28.040 framework.

01:30:28.860 And a third quick explanation is, I don't care who you are talking about this issue,

01:30:36.020 even the Zionists or the pro-Jewish side, all sides are going to recognize and acknowledge

01:30:42.720 that Jews, Jewish people are disproportionately represented

01:30:46.860 in some of these positions of financial and media power, right?

01:30:51.260 And so if what we're saying is these sorts of positions have aligned interests

01:30:58.040 and Jewish people are disproportionately represented,

01:31:02.740 then, of course, there's going to be a sense where they're bringing their interests,

01:31:06.660 the interests of their nation, the interests of their religion,

01:31:09.780 the interests of their personal—

01:31:12.260 Well, they themselves might be the bankers.

01:31:14.900 They're going to be bringing all of that with them into this kind of dark undercurrent of networking and global relations.

01:31:25.440 Right.

01:31:25.720 Yep.

01:31:26.080 Let's skip Pizzagate.

01:31:27.220 He mentions it briefly.

01:31:28.300 I actually was following it at the time.

01:31:30.120 Pizzagate, if you're not familiar, 30 seconds.

01:31:32.400 It was basically a lot of emails through WikiLeaks were leaked.

01:31:35.260 Right.

01:31:35.420 And it seemed like the subject matter that they were talking about was much worse than simply dinner parties that had nothing else going on.

01:31:43.720 And these are things, too, we never got answers for.

01:31:46.160 Why are you ordering $65,000 worth of hot dogs?

01:31:49.500 And why is this art and this entertainment?

01:31:52.800 Yeah, for the White House.

01:31:53.720 This was John Podesta was his key emails that were leaked.

01:31:56.640 i remember back in the day 2021 uh wayfarer had listed for like ten thousand dollars yep hundreds

01:32:01.920 and hundreds of filing cabinets that had names of children that had gone missing we never got

01:32:07.420 an answer for sale they were for sale right so they had listed on the website they were for

01:32:10.320 tens of thousands tens of thousands of dollars yeah these just cabinets and they would have names

01:32:14.600 like gracie and rodney like and people were going like wait there's kids that have been missing for

01:32:19.880 a couple years yeah we never happened to get an answer for that one either why why were those

01:32:23.960 listed on their wayfair yeah so someday maybe we'll do a full episode on it the last piece we

01:32:28.460 wanted to talk about and michael handed over to you was uh how this relates to some modern families

01:32:33.000 the netanyahu's adelson's and others uh that are still working and donating today well uh yeah we

01:32:40.620 were gonna play a clip here and react to it so you guys are gonna have to help me out recalling

01:32:44.640 everything that the clip talked about but we're trying not to play the clip because we just got

01:32:48.800 we don't want to get another copyright strike yeah yeah not because we're afraid to mention the

01:32:53.420 the topic but just jerry copyright strikes um in the in the episode um ian carroll talks about how

01:33:02.280 uh it seems like maybe some of the uh i guess we would say legacy israeli influence and the newer

01:33:11.140 israeli influence i don't even know if that's the the right way to frame it but um he talks about

01:33:16.400 how trump might be at odds with bb netanyahu and kind of the more old guard push um and obviously

01:33:23.180 trump's son-in-law is jerry kushner and then what's the name addelrods is that right the

01:33:28.800 addelson family family yeah which just briefly on them they're trying to bring a casino right to

01:33:33.600 texas right so they made their money in las vegas through gambling texas has no casinos and they're

01:33:39.160 trying to bring one to irving texas and none of the people want it because that's money and then

01:33:43.700 they also purchased the dallas maverick so it's going to be kind of like a sports casino megaplex

01:33:48.320 or whatever like we're talking about like on the ground like practically speaking right in our

01:33:52.000 backyard these families are trying to make money and trying to invest in these things

01:33:56.020 and really just overrule the will of the local people yeah yeah you mentioned earlier you

01:34:00.380 mentioned earlier in the in the stream west about the fact that when october 7th happened

01:34:05.200 it was quickly labeled um a a terrorist attack by hamas on israel which i mean i think is true

01:34:13.760 but there was a large growing sentiment in israel against by israelis against netanyahu

01:34:23.640 and the establishment or the established government and the i don't know what we want

01:34:31.440 to call it i guess the main line israeli way of doing things and leadership has actually been

01:34:37.560 facing increased criticism within Israel, and even around the world. And it seems like maybe

01:34:45.520 what we're in the middle of with Israel, and I don't know if this is for the good or for the bad, 0.93

01:34:49.300 I don't know. But it seems like what we're in the middle of is a bit of a change of guard, 0.87

01:34:53.800 possibly, or the old guard exerting itself and digging in for longer. I don't know that the

01:35:00.680 Adelson's or the Kushner wing would be, in some ways, they're more connected with America. So

01:35:06.140 from an american point of view um that would probably just ingratiate themselves more with

01:35:11.000 our politics um yeah i don't know there's a lot there that that needs to be uncovered still

01:35:16.540 yeah we're just in a brave new world yep like what's going to happen in the next few years

01:35:20.740 regarding all of these topics and more it's going to be fascinating yeah yeah yeah um joel was there

01:35:27.420 anything else you wanted to say that was the one clip that you asked us to make sure we included

01:35:30.660 that now we can't include because of the copyright thing the one about bivy yeah

01:35:34.160 no okay i don't like him yeah you know but if we were able to play the clip that would trigger my

01:35:43.920 memory and i you know have more specific things to say but yeah yeah all right we already got

01:35:48.920 one copy strike uh let's go ahead we're gonna hit some super chats then yeah we've got a lot

01:35:52.620 of super chats today so let's look at those all right this is acts of boniface he gave us five

01:35:57.100 bucks thanks acts of boniface we appreciate it he said revelation 17 16 arc incoming thanks to

01:36:03.580 their overstepping in the american empire and i just looked it up when he left the comment that's

01:36:09.740 when the beast turns on the harlot so rome symbolically and then jerusalem drunk with the

01:36:14.200 blood of the saints the beast turns on her and devours her right she lived off its prosperity

01:36:18.720 she wrote it she committed wickedness with it at a certain point the beast says oh i don't i don't

01:36:25.900 like you anymore right yeah okay all right jeremy kerns 999 thank you very much jeremy good to see 0.59

01:36:31.420 you again uh the reformed and even aquinas spoke on how to deal with jews and never giving them 0.98

01:36:37.600 political power or have equality in society uh he says today we're dealing with the consequences 0.98

01:36:43.600 of that samuel rutherford said the same thing that this should not be suffered to hold office

01:36:48.540 or participate wasn't advocating cruelty but some of them said that yeah yeah that's undeniable that

01:36:53.880 And the Reformed, many of the Reformed did hold the position, the lion's share position for the Reformed.

01:37:01.280 It's the position that Michael holds and not the position that I hold.

01:37:04.180 I recognize that I am departing from the mainline consensus within Reformed tradition on this fact.

01:37:12.360 But they did hold that there was not land promises or anything like that, but that there was still a future promise to be fulfilled for Israel according to the flesh, namely a spiritual revival.

01:37:23.880 And so they did hold that. And so they thought that the Jews were integral in that regard, not necessarily that they should have had a nation state or anything like that, but that the Jews dispersed between various nations that they eventually would, there would be a revival where they would come to Christ and finally receive the Messiah that they had rejected and that that would kickstart.

01:37:46.460 not all the reformers thought this, but especially the Puritans, many of them being post-millennial

01:37:52.620 in their eschatology, they believed that that would be a catalyst and kickstart a golden age

01:37:57.740 for the church. And so that was their position. So I want to paint that clearly. They believed

01:38:05.220 in a future spiritual revival among ethnic Jewish people. So they believed that the ethnic Jewish

01:38:10.640 people, number one, that they were preserved, that they continued. And that's something that

01:38:14.740 I would have some nuances and disagree with in many ways. But the Reformers and the Puritans, 0.55

01:38:20.740 I believe that they were preserved and that these ethnic Jewish people would eventually,

01:38:25.280 you know, a great many of them would convert to Christ and that that would be a significant

01:38:31.460 latter-day revival that would also work as a catalyst and kickstart an even greater revival 0.55

01:38:38.420 among non-Jewish people, Gentiles.

01:38:41.420 That said, so in that regard, they were charitable towards the Jews.

01:38:46.220 And many of the Reformers even partnered with some Jewish rabbis in terms of being able

01:38:52.440 to learn Hebrew and go back to original manuscripts when it came to textual studies and their

01:38:58.320 commentaries and translating the Bible, you know, and these kinds of things.

01:39:03.460 Even before the Reformation that was happening, there were various, the Jesuits and the Franciscans

01:39:07.640 were doing the same thing right so um all those things are true so uh they didn't necessarily

01:39:12.460 have a hateful view and we're not saying that um some did but many did not have like a there wasn't

01:39:19.020 like any kind of racial animus or anything like that however so they believed that the jews would

01:39:23.240 eventually be saved that would be a good thing they wanted to evangelize the jews and they even

01:39:27.160 wanted to um to utilize some of those who were knowledgeable who could help them with the

01:39:31.640 original hebrew and aramaic and these kinds of things in order to do some of their textual

01:39:35.620 analysis and study and translating the Bible and writing commentaries, all those things. So in that

01:39:42.500 sense, charitable. But while being charitable, these things aren't in contradiction, at least

01:39:47.940 not directly. I don't think that it necessitates a contradiction. They held that view of the Jews

01:39:52.200 that they eventually are going to be saved and they can be helpful when it comes to

01:39:57.120 our understanding of the Christian Bible. That and simultaneously, both and, not either or,

01:40:04.220 They also, as it currently rests...

01:40:06.300 Joel, can I just...

01:40:07.240 The reason why Joel's saying this and that it's important is you'll read Gil or even older,

01:40:13.220 you'll read some of them, and they'll refer to Rabbi so-and-so said this.

01:40:17.480 Like, they were trying to, in some ways, catch up on the language.

01:40:21.160 They were.

01:40:21.680 And so they actually were referencing some of what they learned from the Jewish rabbis.

01:40:27.400 Yes.

01:40:28.120 And so they had that view.

01:40:30.180 And so in that regard to the Jews' future salvation and their knowledge of the original language, they viewed them charitably and were pretty adamant about no mistreatment or anything like that.

01:40:45.480 And yet, simultaneously, without animus, racial animus, they also were just able to say, no, America is for Americans, and it is predominantly an Anglo-Protestant project, Anglo-Protestant project.

01:40:59.860 And so the same kind of view that they would have towards Catholics in the early days of America, especially the colonies, you know, before the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence, before 1776, but in, you know, the 1600s. 0.87

01:41:13.420 And they're like, no, Jews cannot hold public office.

01:41:18.740 They, yeah, they can live here and they can live here peacefully and all these kinds of things.

01:41:24.620 But no, this is a Christian nation and those who reject Christ and hate Christ, they can

01:41:32.920 be in the car and we shouldn't mistreat them, but they don't get to drive. 0.99

01:41:37.360 And that's a perfectly fair.

01:41:38.880 So going back, Nathan, if you can scroll up, this is our response to, scroll up, this is

01:41:46.360 our response to Jeremy Kearns.

01:41:48.080 And so we agree with largely that sentiment with the Reformers, but just fleshing it out and giving a more holistic view that the Reformers, for the most part, believed in a future spiritual revival for the Jewish people.

01:42:04.120 And that necessarily assumes that they believe that ethnically the Jewish people were preserved and that they would eventually be saved.

01:42:12.620 They also partnered with them in some ways when it came to learning the original texts and the original languages so that they could help translate and also commentate on the Bible, the scripture, and did all that while simultaneously recognizing that the Jews were against Christ and that they were not Christians.

01:42:32.100 They were very much anti-Christ and that they had no place in leadership in America and several European nations took the same stance. 0.69

01:42:40.980 And we think that that is, well, I won't say we, I'll say me. I think that that is perfectly 1.00

01:42:48.440 permissible. That is not, that does not necessitate hatred. That doesn't mean, oh, so you hate these

01:42:56.840 people? No, it is okay. It's okay to have a country. You are allowed, listen to me, Christian,

01:43:05.060 you are allowed to have a country you are um it is okay to say no that this is this country this 1.00

01:43:13.320 nation is for us and our posterity it's not for hindus it's not for muslims and it's not for jews 0.96

01:43:20.780 um it belongs to uh christians and and it's okay uh to have a country you go to islamic nations

01:43:29.500 and they're not going to be putting a bunch of christians in positions of political power

01:43:33.520 everybody else is allowed to have an in-group preference. Everybody else is allowed to have

01:43:39.740 an in-group preference, except for Christians, and let's be real for a second, white people. 0.66

01:43:47.880 Because there actually are some Christian nations that are allowed to have an in-group preference,

01:43:52.200 but there are Christian nations that, in terms of their race or ethnicity, they're not European.

01:43:59.940 They're a Christian nation in South America, or like Uganda.

01:44:05.220 Uganda is largely a Christian nation, and they're allowed to have an in-group preference.

01:44:09.160 Uganda is for Ugandans, and it's for Christ. 0.81

01:44:12.140 It's for Christians. 0.99

01:44:13.880 But they're allowed to do that because, well, how come they can have a Christian nation? 1.00

01:44:18.300 Because they're black. 1.00

01:44:19.960 That's what it is. 0.99

01:44:21.780 So there is a war on Christianity, but there's also a war on white people. 0.80

01:44:28.380 There is.

01:44:28.860 And these two wars, this is where a lot of guys get it wrong.

01:44:32.380 They conflate it.

01:44:33.240 These two wars are not the same war.

01:44:36.080 They are two distinct wars with a great degree of overlap, albeit.

01:44:40.720 Venn diagram, love a good Venn diagram, just like Kamala Harris.

01:44:44.560 But it's two distinct circles.

01:44:47.500 Those two circles overlap in a large fashion.

01:44:51.640 But you can't just say, oh, there's no war against white people or white nations or Europeans. 0.69

01:44:56.800 It's just a war on Christ. 0.79

01:44:58.320 and the reason they hate Europe is because of its Christian heritage 0.86

01:45:00.800 and they hate America because of its Christian heritage.

01:45:02.760 It's only because of Christ. 0.94

01:45:04.020 Well, if that was the case, then they would hate Uganda. 0.84

01:45:06.960 They would hate Zambia.

01:45:08.040 There are plenty of African nations and South American nations

01:45:11.280 that in terms of statistically, they're actually more Christian

01:45:14.760 than a lot of European nations are today.

01:45:17.480 And yet they do not receive the world's vitriol and animus

01:45:22.540 in the way that European nations and North American nations do

01:45:27.760 and it's because it's nothing less than a war against Christ. So, there is the spiritual war,

01:45:34.400 but there also is a cultural war. Those are two different wars with overlap. There's a spiritual

01:45:40.820 war and a political war, two different wars with overlap. And you just have to say it. You have to

01:45:47.720 say it because it's true. There is a spiritual war and a racial war. There is. There is a war 0.99

01:45:55.080 on white people. If you are a white man, particularly a white, young, heterosexual 0.98

01:46:01.500 Christian man, the world hates you. And you need to know that it hates you because of your faith 0.99

01:46:08.360 in Jesus. It also hates you because you're white. And you need to be aware of that so that you can 0.99

01:46:16.580 live life with prudence, with wisdom, and act accordingly. Because if you're a white man

01:46:22.340 and you choose to marry a Christian white woman, you're going to have white babies. 1.00

01:46:28.920 And as a father, you need to be aware that your children are hated. And a father, as his duty to 0.99

01:46:36.480 provide and protect for his posterity, his children, he needs to know what kind of potential

01:46:42.020 threats are out there. He needs to know, do my children have, every child has threats, but do my

01:46:47.260 my children have any particular threats any unique threats that i as a father who has been

01:46:53.200 who has been uh tasked by god to provide and protect are there any particular threats that

01:47:00.040 i should be aware of and so you need to be aware if you are a christian you have enemies if you

01:47:05.320 are a white christian you have even more enemies that's worth saying okay okay we had a couple more

01:47:12.300 super chats and let's hit those i don't think there were questions as much as just comments so 0.80

01:47:16.140 uh oh granddad farms super chat 499 thanks granddad farms uh good afternoon from idaho

01:47:22.560 the conversation has almost reached critical mass in on jre tate on nelk candace on theo

01:47:28.660 and now cooper on joe brogan experience vance massey 2028 that'd be awesome yeah that's the

01:47:37.500 most realistic best kind of outcome in the future yeah like thomas massey like there's there's not

01:47:43.480 a scenario i don't think short term where too many good things happen but that could be one of

01:47:48.320 them yeah yep daniel bardos uh he didn't say anything but he just was generous and gave us

01:47:52.660 a twenty dollar super chat uh thank you daniel we appreciate that axa boniface again another

01:47:57.560 five dollar super chat said uh gonna need everyone to hit that like button for the algo amen so true

01:48:03.320 king so true king uh hit the like button hit the share button let's get it out uh then we have

01:48:08.260 alex flick we read his we already did okay he just said uh it's it's you don't have to it doesn't

01:48:14.520 necessitate it could include but it doesn't necessitate some kind of jewish cabal in a

01:48:18.420 formal sense because there's sin that's common to man that's one theological argument number two

01:48:22.780 alex flick he also added uh because there are we we live there are principalities and powers and

01:48:28.640 demonic uh entities that they can drive different people who have no connection to each other in

01:48:33.900 any visible way on different parts of the world towards the same malevolent ends. That's certainly

01:48:39.360 a theological reality. And then, because I can, here's the last super chat. He gave us $5. Because

01:48:46.660 I can, thank you. He said, Ian Carroll stole from my friend. Look up Marantz Rance interview.

01:48:54.400 That could be entirely possible. We can't speak to that. Say it again.

01:48:58.480 m-a-r-m-a-r-a-n-t-z rants rants rants yeah so go ahead and feel free to check that out that's

01:49:06.920 entirely possible but we can't speak to it we have no idea uh any other super chats for today

01:49:11.520 nathan no okay that's it uh i hope you guys have found this episode helpful and hopefully we don't

01:49:17.340 get any extra copy uh right strikes i i thought that the rule was that you can show clips uh

01:49:23.160 provided that you're actually commentating on it and uh it was just too long okay all right so uh

01:49:29.080 nathan are you gonna take the video down and re-upload it then without the clips what are

01:49:32.980 you gonna do he said don't make me answer right now so nathan will find some way to make sure that

01:49:40.160 um that the algorithm does not throttle this video because we want it to uh yeah to get as

01:49:45.580 many views as possible and it may just mean nathan that you have to take it down delete the clips

01:49:50.300 and just put like, you know,

01:49:53.000 just put like a little text that says

01:49:54.540 we had to remove the clip because of X, Y, and Z.

01:49:57.660 But here's, you know, here's the feedback

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