The NXR Podcast - THE LIVESTREAM - MAGA Is Dead, America First Is Rising

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00:00:30.000 america's got talent well in the case of donald trump america does not have talent yes your

00:00:37.760 country will continue to be flooded by h1b visas indians from all over because well you suck you

00:00:47.160 don't know what you're doing you're not talented you're not gifted you're not impressive and the

00:00:51.300 rest of the world is better now that's the probably the strongest way that i could rehash

00:00:58.220 the clip that's been going viral of Donald Trump over the last 24 hours.

00:01:02.620 We're going to get into the context, get into some of his meaning.

00:01:06.120 But the way that I just said it still has at least some measure of truth to it.

00:01:11.740 At best, Donald Trump may have actually been getting towards something that might be needed in some regard,

00:01:18.860 but his messaging is way off base.

00:01:21.820 He is, at minimum, deeply out of touch.

00:01:25.020 And the biggest thing that we're going to prove in today's episode is that at the end of the day, it's not just that you and I perhaps changed over the last, whatever it is, 10 years, becoming more and more right wing.

00:01:39.040 No, it's not just that you changed.

00:01:41.280 MAGA changed.

00:01:42.860 Trump is not the same man.

00:01:44.760 It's not just that you became more radical.

00:01:47.320 No, Trump became more liberal.

00:01:49.540 It is objective.

00:01:50.540 objective and we are going to show you from 2016 right now to 2025 the year of our lord the

00:01:57.620 objective definitive change from trump he is pulling back he is compromising whether it's on

00:02:06.120 abortion back in 2016 saying yeah the woman who gets an abortion well i don't know how else to

00:02:12.600 think about it other than there must be some kind of penalty for her she's committing murder

00:02:16.740 she's doing something wrong to where his campaign in 2024 he was way off of that rhetoric he was

00:02:24.400 about as pro-abortion in his campaign in 2024 as any democrats all the way up until i don't know

00:02:33.080 maybe the last eight years and then with h1b's we'll show you a clip from 2016 where he's like

00:02:40.360 no, it's not good for the American worker. Here's where we are. MAGA is dying. It is.

00:02:48.280 I mean, I think that I'm actually, we're going to present to you a balanced, tempered, moderate view

00:02:56.220 because I'm inclined to say MAGA is dead. It's not just dying. It's dead. But we'll go ahead

00:03:03.260 and do our best. We'll steel man everything that we can. Do our best to provide the moderate

00:03:09.820 position without the hyperbole at minimum MAGA is dying and the single issue that is going to win

00:03:18.120 not just the next presidential election but arguably elections whether it be midterms

00:03:24.700 or the presidential for decades to come will be this America first and America first means

00:03:34.060 Americans first. Make Americans first again. That's going to be the slogan. It's not just

00:03:42.920 America being great again. It's America being first again. And America means Americans.

00:03:50.760 If America is first with GDP, if America is first to land on Mars, if America is first in the AI

00:03:58.160 race but we accomplish all this by ultimately replacing americans heritage real americans

00:04:07.140 with paper americans who just showed up 15 minutes ago and call them just as american as anyone else

00:04:14.580 then the leaders of our country they're not just neocons they're not just democrats

00:04:19.560 they should be tried and hung for treason they are traitors to their citizens they are traitors

00:04:29.020 to their people they are monsters of the most vile variety and we need to speak in these terms

00:04:38.440 today's episode it's going to be it's going to be quite a journey we're going to show you a lot

00:04:44.700 We're going to talk about a lot, but we're also going to talk about solutions.

00:04:48.100 Where do we go from here?

00:04:50.100 Let's tune in now.

00:04:57.340 All right.

00:05:01.680 Well, happy Wednesday.

00:05:03.340 Happy Wednesday.

00:05:04.720 GA.

00:05:05.780 GA.

00:05:07.020 Let's take a trip down memory lane.

00:05:08.760 I feel like I've been doing this a lot lately, but it's important to, when it comes to criticizing

00:05:12.820 trump i think we could all would be happy to go on the record i mean especially for me and joel

00:05:17.420 like we were on there for a good six months oh yeah what's the live stream today vote for trump

00:05:21.140 vote for trump uh yeah we're not scrubbing we're not hiding we're not doing it was a year ago we

00:05:26.620 were here in this one year ago election live stream one year ago hype videos we were shilling

00:05:32.160 for trump and here's the thing we actually weren't we were getting it's like the the meme where

00:05:35.760 there's like you guys are getting paid we weren't getting paid for free we were shilling for trump

00:05:40.540 and we were doing it because we really did believe it yeah and now on the one thing he's

00:05:45.320 done is close the border he's closed the border and if we had kamala i think we would have had

00:05:51.120 40 million more and i live in a border state my family i have four daughters and a wife living

00:05:57.520 in the border state and a kamala presidency it is quite possible by the time we got to 20 28 that i

00:06:03.760 would be um i'd be a single man my wife would be dead my children dead like i mean really what like

00:06:10.040 i'm not just being extreme it really was that severe so i don't regret it i don't regret it

00:06:15.320 yet at the same time at this point um i'm never i'm never doing it again and i don't mean never

00:06:21.680 doing it again just voting for trump what i mean is that um i i can't i can't we can't just keep

00:06:28.840 saying well this would be a little better than that this would be a little better than that

00:06:32.520 the only thing we have to sway politicians is our vote and if they know if the gop knows they can

00:06:41.200 get our vote by simply being just a little bit better than a communist then then that's what

00:06:48.360 we will because they have an r beside their name right that's what we'll forever get is someone

00:06:52.400 just a little bit better than a communist and honestly if that's what it takes i'm ready i'm

00:06:56.660 ready to just go out i feel like it's sink or swim if that's what it takes is um i'm going to

00:07:01.360 withhold my vote because you actually have to serve me. You actually have to do better. And I

00:07:06.320 know that if I withhold my vote, I'm going to get this other person who's going to bring 40 more

00:07:10.200 million people and will never win an election again. So it's either this, the GDP or GOP has

00:07:17.760 one shot in this election to get it together, or I will not give them my vote. The opponent wins

00:07:25.640 and America is done. I think that's honest. I don't know another strategy at this point.

00:07:30.340 i feel like that's that's what it is so i have to have my plane ticket ready

00:07:33.600 seriously i i gotta be ready to move to poland you know move to whatever costa rica el salvador

00:07:40.120 whatever it is and uh and withhold my vote because i can't keep sending the message all you have to

00:07:46.920 do is be an inch better than the communist we can drive off the cliff but by golly 25 miles an hour

00:07:52.680 maximum you can still do it but we need to get there slower that's all it is that's all it ever

00:07:58.040 so i say hey a year ago we were in trump's corner we still want him to do good we're still rooting

00:08:03.300 for him but a year ago we supported him and you go back to 2016 i could speak for myself guys i was

00:08:09.600 trump's top guy there was a point where my phone wallpaper was trump fully supportive i've been to

00:08:15.920 the rallies january 6th i showed up to support him i felt the election had been stolen he deserved

00:08:20.760 justice he was showing up his office i was not in nancy pelosi's office the whole time um i nearly

00:08:27.980 got pictures yeah i was nearly assaulted in baltimore for wearing a maga hat like i was

00:08:33.660 trump's guy a lot of us i think joel you were a little bit later but antonio you said it too

00:08:37.880 i was a little speak for yourself at one point i have always known trump wasn't our guy

00:08:42.280 i remember in october before the election you were like he's the great man he is no i i thought that

00:08:48.280 yeah i think i think and we can get into this further but i think a lot of what's happening is

00:08:53.180 the GOP just frankly is not prepared for the demographic change that's happening to the

00:08:59.940 base of the party in terms of the under 30 white man being incredibly far right, incredibly far

00:09:07.860 right. Like you still got the GOP comprised predominantly of boomers and particularly in

00:09:13.460 the influence of the party. And those are the people like one of the things that I loved about

00:09:17.700 Trump and I still think is actually a decent quality is how collaborative he is, how he wants

00:09:22.460 to hear what everyone has to say in the room but the problem is when everyone in the room is a you

00:09:28.560 know 2015 boomer gop george bush lookalike george bush lookalike exactly it's like that's that's

00:09:37.020 where trump fails so uh i think i think that's what we're kind of getting at is like we're seeing

00:09:41.580 the fruits of that that that reality in this administration in a way that they it was present

00:09:46.800 it was present in the first administration um but uh but trump just wasn't as established he

00:09:52.520 wasn't as like rooted in it as he is now right he truly is in a lot of ways the swamp the donor

00:09:57.760 story is huge the big donors that came out that he is much more beholden to since they supported

00:10:03.060 his campaign in 2024 like you guys you have to recognize that is a big difference yeah trump was

00:10:07.560 not supported by establishment trump was not as much supported by none of them the republican

00:10:11.680 party apparatus right he wasn't supported by those in 2016 and his message all that to say

00:10:16.880 his message was actually good uh his message america first that slogan uh nick fuentes actually

00:10:22.640 coined it right he took it from a trump speech trump saying it needs to be america first trump

00:10:27.920 said things you alluded to it in the cold open hey uh women that procure abortions are murderers

00:10:32.680 and they should be charged and prosecuted as such that's great rhetoric i remember him saying hey

00:10:38.120 you take manufacturing out of the United States, I'm going to slap you with tariffs for taking

00:10:42.500 these manufacturing, these jobs out of here. Let's go ahead and play a clip. This is from

00:10:46.060 the 2016 debate. This is him talking about the H-1B program. Super quick, 30, 40 seconds.

00:10:52.080 Play it now.

00:10:52.940 Well, first of all, I think, and I know the H-1B very well, and it's something that I frankly use,

00:10:58.260 and I shouldn't be allowed to use. We shouldn't have it. Very, very bad for workers. And second

00:11:02.880 of all, I think it's very important to say, well, I'm a businessman and I have to do what I have

00:11:07.600 to do and it's sitting there waiting for you but it's very bad it's very bad for business and in

00:11:13.140 terms of it's very bad for our workers and it's unfair for our workers and we should end it

00:11:17.740 look at that where did that guy go remember him man i love that guy notice the crowd cheering

00:11:23.900 yep 10 years ago they loved it this is awesome we support ending this you did not just become

00:11:30.600 more radical donald trump objectively changed he moved to the left and he did it for i think

00:11:36.900 a few reasons one because in 2016 he was not beholden to a bunch of jewish donors who have

00:11:43.960 given him hundreds of millions of dollars combined he had a hundred million just from the edelsons

00:11:48.420 secondly um in 2016 uh the truth still would have been the truth but there didn't seem to be

00:11:58.860 any looming moment of uh donald j trump's name being revealed in the epstein files

00:12:07.240 like let's just be honest uh when i think of this term those are the two main differences that i

00:12:13.420 think of i think beholden to donors and epstein files i feel i feel like the epstein files is a

00:12:21.100 big thing and and we could just gloss over it i think a lot of us including myself we were you

00:12:25.380 know we didn't know what to think but we're inclined to think you know well elon's just he's

00:12:29.120 just being emotional he's just mad because his bromance you know with trump ended the way that

00:12:33.900 he didn't like and blah blah blah and at the end of the day i'm gonna side with trump over elon

00:12:37.280 because elon's a foreigner you know he's south african he's not america um now i'm actually

00:12:44.420 looking back and i'm thinking remember when elon tweeted out the reason why trump blah blah blah

00:12:50.580 blah blah is because he's in the epstein files uh i think i think bro cooked i think i think

00:12:59.460 there was something there when was the last time you mentioned early antonio that trump claimed he

00:13:04.240 had relations uh like connection saw jeffrey epstein what was the last time he said he said

00:13:09.300 on record 2008 is what he said was the last time he had ever really which was prior to i think

00:13:14.500 jeffrey epstein's first conviction for what was going down on it would have been around or just

00:13:18.820 before that time yeah exactly and what do we know now the emails that are coming out so a whole trove

00:13:23.400 of them uh from the uh jeffrey epstein committee the house committee house committee on oh i'm not

00:13:30.080 sure i believe anyway a trove of epstein emails released and to the through the 2010s most

00:13:35.680 certainly the early parts people are referencing trump in relation to epstein i saw one email

00:13:40.040 now this is just this is very quickly seeing it i of course i'm not verifying i'll bet my life on

00:13:44.560 It seems one email said, hey, are you home?

00:13:47.620 I don't want to walk in on Trump in Epstein's house again.

00:13:51.100 So Trump claimed, 2007, 2008, last relations I had with the man.

00:13:55.760 Well, here's emails from years later.

00:13:58.580 Oh, and Trump was at his house.

00:14:00.280 People asking about pictures of Trump with underage girls in bikinis.

00:14:03.900 Those are just coming out.

00:14:05.080 They're just being unrolled now.

00:14:06.320 We don't know how true they are.

00:14:07.680 We don't know the veracity of them.

00:14:09.300 But it doesn't look good.

00:14:11.900 There are no emails out there of me.

00:14:13.860 hey I don't want to walk into Epstein's house

00:14:16.080 because I might see your guy Wes.

00:14:17.700 Those don't exist. So at the very least

00:14:20.080 the evidence is not looking good.

00:14:22.380 And the point is I think we had a

00:14:24.080 reason to believe Trump. You can only go off

00:14:26.080 someone's word when they're a politician. The next

00:14:27.940 politician coming in will not have a track record

00:14:29.800 of having been president of another country

00:14:32.000 and successfully completed a program over

00:14:34.100 there and telling us he can do it again.

00:14:36.240 You do have to go off the word of a politician.

00:14:38.520 And we trusted Trump and he did

00:14:40.120 some good things. We can't

00:14:42.160 exactly we trusted him because um he was a blessing from god and i and this just needs to

00:14:49.060 be said i feel like the best way i can say it clear is most concise is that um you know the

00:14:53.440 chimp praise chimp praise chimp you know you get bad trump one day he was like h1b's millions of

00:14:58.240 them they're coming in because america's you know doesn't have talent and we need you know the

00:15:02.820 geniuses in india india you know to replace the dumb dumbs in america okay well that's a chimp

00:15:07.100 day you know where you you rally and you're like stop that trump you know and then there's days

00:15:11.760 where he does something good and you praise um no uh we're past that we are past that um

00:15:17.720 what we need now is not praising and chimping what we need now is um no praise for trump at all

00:15:23.820 we can praise god for old trump and what trump has done not what he's doing and not what he will do

00:15:31.880 but what he has done so i have no praise for trump um i have praise to the lord for using

00:15:39.160 providentially trump as a cyrus type figure he was never our guy but as a precursor paving the way

00:15:45.820 for someone who truly is america first so i praise god not trump for what god did through trump

00:15:53.220 before it's not happening anymore and then from here on out we just have to realize uh what do

00:15:59.640 we do so we chimp you know so that trump you know changes his tune he serves america no this is what

00:16:05.260 you have to realize is um the ship sailed right it's too late trump had one year one year he

00:16:12.500 didn't get it done we will be slaughtered in the midterms it will be a it already is and it will

00:16:17.940 just be confirmed as a lame duck presidency for the rest of his term uh trump blew it and half

00:16:24.940 of his cabinet in 2027 are going to leave to go and run for president yes marco rubio and jd

00:16:30.160 they're all going to run against each other they're not going to be in the white house

00:16:32.680 come 2027 it's basically 60 over so you might get one more bill passed or two correct so it's

00:16:38.340 so my point is praise not trump praise god for what trump did the doors that he opened

00:16:43.380 or for someone else to walk through as someone who is truly america first but what should we

00:16:50.840 be doing now chimping and praising because maybe maggot will come through for what we should be

00:16:55.580 doing now is pivoting and organizing and building as fast as possible because MAGA ain't it. Why?

00:17:05.360 Because it's too extreme. No, because it's liberal. We need something far worse. After careful

00:17:10.780 consideration, we've decided that MAGA is faking gay and we need something far worse.

00:17:15.920 Yeah. Let's go to the comments he made yesterday. I have never seen the narrative shift on the Trump

00:17:21.620 administration like it has in the last 24 hours. Longtime supporters, plan trusters,

00:17:27.340 all sorts of people came out and said, this is the last straw. This is not just us here. We kind

00:17:32.200 of privately felt it. Fire up the live stream. We're going after him. Across the breadth of the

00:17:37.480 Republican Party, the conservative movement, tons and tons of people saying, this is the final straw

00:17:42.260 for me. Trump sat down for an interview with Megyn Kelly. And this immigration issue, America first,

00:17:48.120 immigration downstream of that it's probably the biggest single issue if you can think of america

00:17:52.680 first as the umbrella immigration is honestly the biggest issue underneath it and it's like oh well

00:17:57.200 you mean illegal immigration right no immigration high like cj angley says i do not distinguish

00:18:02.400 between legal and illegal immigration no both are often tools like the ron swanson thing it's like

00:18:06.940 bring me all the eggs and bacon that you have wait wait wait wait wait i'm concerned that what you

00:18:11.520 heard me say is bring me a lot of eggs and bacon but what i said was bring me all the eggs and

00:18:17.780 bacon you have so when it comes to immigration it's like we need to get rid of all immigration

00:18:23.580 it's like what i'm concerned that you heard me say illegal immigration but i said we need to stop

00:18:29.300 all immigration and this is another l uh dhs secretary christy noem it was just today she

00:18:35.960 said uh i'll have her quote right here uh we're going to keep using our visa program so this is

00:18:40.680 the work visa program but also more people are becoming naturalized under this admin than ever

00:18:46.540 before. More people are becoming citizens. So it's like, well, 600,000 people have been deported

00:18:51.260 this year. A million more have self-deported. 1.6 million illegal immigrants gone. Well, as best we

00:18:58.240 can tell, more people are being naturalized than ever. Two million people might have just come in

00:19:02.300 legally anyway. And it's in the backdrop of all this. Immigration is the key problem. Trump under

00:19:07.980 a lot of fire. Guys, he is more unpopular than ever. And that has not become because men under

00:19:13.220 30 are more liberal than ever. Trump is deeply unpopular. He's deeply unpopular with the people

00:19:18.420 he should be popular with. And Megyn Kelly presses him on the immigration issue as it relates to

00:19:23.360 workers. Because the big issue under fire, yes, illegal immigration, but the biggest way that

00:19:27.480 people are coming into this nation is through the H-1B visa program, which is skilled laborers.

00:19:32.480 You have a highly skilled laborer, which is the O-1 program. This would be your Elon Musk. So

00:19:36.460 we're not talking about, well, this is bringing in the Elon Musks and it's bringing in these guys

00:19:40.460 in that no h1b visa is a huge program that's ostensibly supposedly for skilled labor coming

00:19:47.860 in to do jobs that americans can't do we forget that the h1b program is to fill slots in jobs

00:19:55.780 that americans are not equipped to do correct bilingual for example hey we need someone on

00:20:00.760 our team uh familiar with uh american and korean legal defense they need to speak the language

00:20:06.240 they need to be familiar with this portion of law let's be honest like if it comes if it's

00:20:10.080 language if that's a that's a great example sure but if that actually is what it is at this point

00:20:14.920 the year of our lord 2025 if it's language then we don't need anybody who's not already here

00:20:19.600 because we've already imported the entire world to our country exactly like well we need somebody

00:20:24.740 who's fluent and uh you know to to be able to speak um vietnamese you know or be able to speak

00:20:30.740 you know mandarin or like they're all here yeah already here and with the christy gnome quote

00:20:36.580 there specifically. If you think back, this actually isn't the first time. This is one of

00:20:41.460 many, many times that the Trump administration kind of accepts leftist framing. So whether it's

00:20:46.720 about race, Trump says, no, I'm actually the president for the blacks. The blacks love me.

00:20:51.180 Whether it's about gays, no, actually the gays love me. And then here it is on immigration. No,

00:20:56.520 actually, if you're an immigrant, you're going to love Trump. You're going to love what we do for

00:21:00.120 you. And so it's a pattern with this administration, both in the first term even, but also certainly in

00:21:05.600 this second term to just accept kind of the framing around immigration, around race, around

00:21:11.080 sexuality, and then just slightly frame it so that, no, no, no, the truth is the Republicans

00:21:18.340 actually are more liberal in this way than the left. So it's a pattern. It's just something that

00:21:25.840 you pick up on time and time again. You see what they're actually trying to do and you walk away

00:21:30.140 thinking that's not what i voted for that's not that's not what i want so as the interview goes

00:21:36.200 on it gets down to immigration and uh she says we have plenty of talented people here getting at

00:21:42.700 exactly what we're saying there's 330 million people 350 million people here in these united

00:21:47.240 states bilingual spanish rocket engineer we've got the people we don't need to import more

00:21:52.420 trump's words we have plenty of talented people here trump no you don't no you don't no you don't

00:21:59.500 have you don't have certain talents and you have to import them people have to learn and he goes

00:22:04.860 on this illustration of saying imagine a foreign company they're headquartered in a foreign nation

00:22:09.180 they built their wealth there and they say you know what we're going to come to america and we're

00:22:12.460 going to build a 10 billion dollar manufacturing plant there and so some of the concern is okay

00:22:17.120 you're building this plant who will get the jobs will americans get the jobs will people from china

00:22:20.980 get the job where you're headquartered and he's saying hey um when that plant comes up there are

00:22:26.120 going to be people that you need that have a skill set for technology, for missiles, for language

00:22:31.980 that you don't have here. I'm doing my best to kind of steal man Trump's argument, to defend him.

00:22:37.180 You don't have those people here. And so you're going to need to have at some level use work

00:22:41.400 visas, skilled labor program, to bring those people in to train people to do the job. The

00:22:47.020 example he uses, you can't take people off of an unemployment line to build missiles. So if

00:22:51.400 unemployment is rising, which it is, and by the way, for October, we're probably going to never

00:22:54.940 know the job numbers. Because of the shutdown, apparently CPI and job numbers for October will

00:22:59.980 never be released. So we don't really know now. We're flying blind. It's going to be two months.

00:23:03.620 We don't have any idea how the economy is doing on the jobs front. But practically speaking,

00:23:07.140 if a lot of people are unemployed, you can't actually just take them off the street and use

00:23:11.200 them to manufacture chips, use them to manufacture missiles. And that was Trump's point. And we'll go

00:23:16.740 on record to say that actually is a reasonable point. There are, of course, some unique skills

00:23:21.860 You're going to have to bring people from overseas in to do.

00:23:25.320 There's going to be skills that they have, abilities they have, things that they know.

00:23:28.660 You're going to need them at a small scale.

00:23:31.040 But this is what's so frustrating.

00:23:33.060 This is why we're coming out and saying enough is enough.

00:23:36.140 Here's how you actually lead that conversation.

00:23:38.200 Hey, President Trump, the American citizens who voted you into office are deeply concerned

00:23:44.200 that these programs are replacing the American worker.

00:23:47.840 they're taking jobs, they're taking money, they're taking spots that could be used,

00:23:52.320 they're consuming housing. It's eroding the core population of these United States.

00:23:57.560 Here's what you say as a president. If you're in touch, if you understand the issues,

00:24:01.800 you know what? I totally get that. Let me give you my personal guarantee, an investment here,

00:24:06.620 manufacturing growing here. These are jobs that will primarily go to Americans. I share your

00:24:12.020 concern. We are not going to be importing thousands and thousands of people to do jobs

00:24:17.580 that americans can do americans want to do americans should be paid for and that may be

00:24:22.600 true but the reason why he didn't answer that way you can tell is because he was personally

00:24:26.700 offended in the interview and he was being stubborn and proud now that is your 2016 trump

00:24:33.440 that element has always been trump that's true that has not changed at all um trump has always

00:24:39.820 been a arrogant prideful man yes he reaches these conclusions behind the scenes but he'll never

00:24:47.140 once he won't come back and admit he'll yeah he'll never he'll never he will double down

00:24:52.260 yep and that's the beauty when he's right he'll never let go it's what we loved about him but

00:24:56.880 when he's wrong he will never let go it's uh it's rough it's it's really rough i will say though

00:25:05.260 in that regard being like never coming back never admitting you know maybe behind the scenes you

00:25:10.620 back off but you can never publicly set the record straight in that regard um trump is like

00:25:16.940 every single pastor in america and if there's two groups of people that do not publicly apologize

00:25:23.160 even when they make a public mistake it's america's politicians and america's pastors

00:25:27.980 they're both arrogant all right let's go to our first commercial break let's do it and then we

00:25:34.260 will come that's the context and people are done with it the 50-year mortgage for the record uh

00:25:39.200 how did that come about well bill pulte pitched that to trump this is the story that we're hearing

00:25:43.240 and he showed trump an image of uh franklin roosevelt who pioneered the 30-year mortgage

00:25:47.540 next to trump and he put the 50-year mortgage yeah trump loved it in fact he loved it so much

00:25:52.820 10 minutes later he posted it because he's proud exactly isn't that crazy like he liked it being

00:26:00.040 he just liked the optic it said great presidents up top great president that that's what he loved

00:26:04.520 which even that is insane i like my son is named franklin every single time new people come to the

00:26:11.560 church you know and he's standing beside me they're like oh is that your son yeah what's his

00:26:15.100 name frankly i literally always assure people that it's not named after frank he's not named

00:26:19.500 after franklin roosevelt so like i'm over here i'm like franklin roosevelt named after francisco

00:26:23.880 yeah i'm like i'm like franklin no relation to franklin roosevelt whatsoever trump sees that

00:26:30.060 and he's like great president franklin roosevelt and me 30 was good a 50 could be better 50 could

00:26:36.820 be even better that said though if we get a portable mortgage that's actually so we could

00:26:42.020 talk about let's talk about real quick yeah to save face that one the administration is by the

00:26:46.040 way furious about the backlash we did a video of it on monday it's a terrible idea it's debt

00:26:51.080 slavery it's you'll own nothing and be happy tons of people hate it all it does is empower usury

00:26:55.400 the united states of usury we're already steeped in usury which is a sin but it is a policy to to

00:27:01.920 accomplish more usury you'll save two 250 bucks a month on your mortgage the centralized banks and

00:27:08.400 i'll give you a guess who's behind them go ahead and you know do a little history early life check

00:27:12.520 they will make hundreds of thousands of dollars more in interest you save 200 bucks a month they

00:27:18.960 make hundreds of thousands of dollars more and that's just off of your loan and then that's

00:27:24.600 combined with everybody who's doing everybody's so no we are not going to support more usury go

00:27:31.320 it no so the administration go figure furious at the backlash conservatives didn't want it they're

00:27:38.060 like we gave you a 50-year mortgage you didn't want it and you weren't grateful you say thank

00:27:42.820 you yeah you say thank you have you said thank you jv vance came out 50-year mortgage uh we

00:27:47.720 promised 50 million deportations we gave you a 50 uh 50 years of debt slavery and usury have you

00:27:53.300 said thank you have you said thankful yet so to save face they floated the idea of a portable

00:27:57.740 mortgage so say you have a $300,000 home you have a $300,000 mortgage and you go and you purchase

00:28:03.320 another home well that $300,000 home you pay it off that pays off the mortgage but you keep the

00:28:08.940 same terms the same interest rate the same payments as the new home you purchased that is a

00:28:16.040 great idea that's a good I can't believe we didn't think of that on Monday but it's a great idea so

00:28:20.340 we will recognize and say that is actually a great idea to help increase home ownership keep people

00:28:25.280 collateral as people move they then have homes and that's why they can buy more that's why you

00:28:29.040 that said there is no amount of chimping in the world that can save maga at this point so maybe

00:28:34.880 we get a portable mortgage out of it before the ship goes down and that'd be great right so the

00:28:38.780 chimping you know there's there's still some purpose in that but the biggest thing that we

00:28:42.460 need to be doing is repositioning building and preparing uh because something is going to have

00:28:48.180 to follow maga um it is dying now and i think um it will be fully dead come 2028 i'll be honest um

00:28:56.920 if it's jd i think he gets slaughtered at at this point i think he gets crushed i actually do

00:29:05.320 all right uh let's go to our first commercial break and we will be right back hey friends

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00:32:50.260 you said it the time to pivot is now yes guys to 2028 for president for governor for senate

00:32:56.160 it really isn't that far away and it is enough time to actually find the guys for the guys to

00:33:01.640 put a campaign together and the guys to run you have to start thinking post mega you have to start

00:33:07.300 thinking um these are the issues that are going to be important and what you can do even if you're

00:33:11.460 not going to win so like running for president yeah if people if you're not a household name

00:33:15.740 right now let's be honest you don't have a chance that's right you're not going to discover yourself

00:33:19.620 no yeah would i take it sure uh can i get it no chance in hell it's like president think about

00:33:29.540 this kanye west like just about everybody would at least recognize his name what did he get three

00:33:36.980 percent something like that when he ran i think it was something like two two yeah it's a big deal

00:33:42.480 it is a big you must be really really known so there's no new face that's just going to come in

00:33:47.420 and sweep it yeah you'll probably have marco rubio he's likely to run for president

00:33:51.660 if not just to position for a vice president you have vance who christy gnome as would

00:33:57.640 would potentially run marjorie taylor green yeah would potentially looks like she's starting to

00:34:02.620 make a play on an america first platform thomas massey has he said anything uh yeah he wouldn't

00:34:09.260 shock me desantis would he try again um i don't know i he wouldn't get it for sure and we like

00:34:16.860 de santis in many ways we do he he loves him israel he's just not that is one thing about

00:34:21.940 de santis he does um but he's very stiff and awkward uh here's an exciting uh development

00:34:26.760 james fishback for governor of florida he recently announced his candidacy ron de santis can't run

00:34:33.340 anymore in florida he's termed out right that's how it kind of works like the best states the

00:34:37.080 best governors uh it's like all right you've had a great three years now someone else has to run

00:34:42.060 that's what happened in virginia glenn youngkin uh termed out he's not the greatest but termed

00:34:46.480 out and virginia lost the governorship to the democrats right gavin newsom will probably be

00:34:51.440 governor of california if not president of the united states for like 80 years but santa's can't

00:34:56.860 run again in florida and the heir apparent with trump's endorsement gross is byron donalds

00:35:04.420 the guy is he seems like a nice guy he seems like a christian guy sure i'm sure uninspiring

00:35:12.180 to say the least yeah not just that but like i mean he he wants to keep import importing people

00:35:16.960 to america he's like it's it's all the old tropes of like we you know need no illegal immigration

00:35:22.460 but we need even more legal immigration he's he's terrible he's out of touch he doesn't get it and

00:35:28.100 he'll destroy the state yep but james fishbank has come out and he's really running on the platform

00:35:33.060 that's everything we're talking about yep it's nationalistic it's america first it's christian

00:35:38.580 that is a huge element of it he wants to restore christian values ending the h1b visa program

00:35:44.700 these guys are actually appearing that's what's going to happen is as maga retreats as maga fades

00:35:50.700 out the good news is that actually paves the way for the people that probably are actually going to

00:35:55.480 do the real work all along the last 10 years believe it or not in many ways that could have

00:36:00.380 been the lobby the pre-game lobby the preparation the pre-season you can think in those terms for

00:36:06.160 the last 10 years uh we've actually finally now gotten down to what the fight is really about what

00:36:12.240 it means to be an american what does america need what does it mean to be um america first yeah

00:36:18.720 real quick cosmic treason uh in the chat he said i see your desantis objection and i raise you

00:36:23.940 he actually made it illegal for chinese nationals to own um to own land in florida he's more likely

00:36:32.580 to end foreign aid than trump i would agree i think he is more likely to end foreign aid i think

00:36:38.300 we can do better yep i think we can do better but uh but if you're saying on that issue he might be

00:36:43.300 better than trump no argument yep de santis he wants to abolish property tax in florida he's

00:36:48.540 actually taken a good bit of the the cudgel to uh the left in florida firing uh district attorneys

00:36:53.960 uh using basically the weight of the law to say you're leftist you're violent you're teaching

00:36:58.720 indoctrination in schools year out DeSantis in many ways has done a wonderful job in Florida

00:37:03.120 and hopefully so this means DeSantis has done great Florida is deep red James Fishbank now he's

00:37:10.200 a former hedge fund manager manager 30 years old brilliant guy super sharp these guys are coming

00:37:15.900 out of the woodwork you didn't know who I didn't know who James Fishbank was a week ago but these

00:37:20.200 guys exist and they've been working we just haven't met them yet exactly and the same way that like

00:37:24.560 there's a ton of people who don't know about us you know there are new people every day who are

00:37:28.140 finding our podcast and like who are these guys this is awesome i'm encouraged um i i think that

00:37:32.980 like in the same way that trump has objectively changed he's moved left he has he's not the same

00:37:40.040 trump he has moved left in the same way um a lot of young guys in the last i mean very recently i'm

00:37:46.280 not just saying the last 15 years or the last 20 no in the last two to four years a bunch of young

00:37:52.220 guys under the age of 40 have moved right. So it's like, so who are our future heroes? Who's

00:37:58.720 going to be our future president? Who are our guys? Our guys are being forged in the fire of

00:38:04.240 adversity right now. So I think we have a lot of our guys, but they're being made today. They'll

00:38:10.640 be revealed tomorrow and they'll be leading the way in the near future. We just can't see all of

00:38:16.780 them yet, but they are appearing day by day. And that's super encouraging to me. You could look at

00:38:21.220 as a black belt and MAGA is over 10 years a huge populist movement the whole world was watching

00:38:26.680 when Trump was elected in the UK everywhere like we can't believe this this is terrible

00:38:30.660 you have this incredible movement and really it's it's going to have about 10 years and you go look

00:38:35.960 at that and go man we've got no shot the left is always going to win they're always going to keep

00:38:41.220 turning things to the left but if you pan out and you look on the other side you can see they were

00:38:46.260 only just for many of us kind of actually the introduction trump introduced the ideas he put

00:38:51.440 them into the public consciousness that now the next generation is saying we're going to take them

00:38:55.740 and run with them yeah 2016 no h1bs right i like that trump was the precursor he was someone who

00:39:02.260 just he served to um activate to radicalize to uh to to spur people on trump was the catalyst

00:39:11.280 but he's not he's not going to be the the american caesar you know who crosses the rubicon and

00:39:17.280 changes you know gets us back causes us to return as the kids say like that's just not who he is so

00:39:22.880 trump for who he is and and more importantly who he was and what he's been praise god praise god

00:39:29.560 uh but maga moving forward no way and honestly um guys have said it nick fuentes said it but he's

00:39:36.720 not the only one other guys have said it and i think it's true um as bad as trump is now as low

00:39:42.520 as his approval ratings are now as much as i feel like he really has stepped left and compromised

00:39:46.880 uh based off of today versus where he was at in 2016 uh anyone else in maga would actually be

00:39:54.860 even worse if trump can't do it or won't do it there's no way that jd vance will you think jd

00:40:03.280 vance is going to well you know jd vance uh yeah trump has been a little bit of a disappointment

00:40:08.280 but you know he's still really great we just need someone slightly better than trump and when i look

00:40:13.120 at the lay of the land and think you know who's who's to the right of trump you know i think of

00:40:17.640 the guy who has done nothing and whose son's name is vivek and who married an indian and uh and only

00:40:26.200 came into prominence because of millions of dollars from peter thiel wait what what how so

00:40:32.780 you're saying trump the like the self-made billionaire couldn't do multiple times over he

00:40:37.940 like lost his net worth multiple times right rebuilt it and rebuilt incredible so that guy

00:40:43.920 american made he couldn't do it but jd vance made by the sodomite peter thiel he'll do it

00:40:52.660 no way so that that's the point is that trump is the best of maggot right so we're not just saying

00:40:59.460 hey Trump is he's not our guy not anymore we're not just saying that about Trump the point is to

00:41:05.220 say Trump is he was the best of MAGA and and MAGA overall has slid left but even in sliding left

00:41:12.560 and Trump sliding left with it Trump's still the best of MAGA which means MAGA has nothing to offer

00:41:18.400 when we say Trump can't do it we mean no one in MAGA can do it we need something else we need

00:41:26.140 something distinct we need something new not just make america great again but we need america first

00:41:32.040 we need make americans first again it's going to be a new coalition a new movement new leaders

00:41:38.140 new people inspiring new people taking the helm and they're going to be for the most part young

00:41:44.120 they're going to be young they're going to appear radical they're going to have intense charisma

00:41:50.800 and these are the guys that i'm looking for these are the guys that i'll vote for and if the gop

00:41:57.320 won't present any of these guys as a candidate to vote for then the the gop will not receive my vote

00:42:04.740 it's as simple as that it's as simple and that's where i think a lot of the criticism is coming

00:42:08.900 from i mean obviously they're the administration's actually just been bad on policy whether it's

00:42:13.880 h1b's or now the 50-year mortgage or not releasing the epstein files or i mean you can the list goes

00:42:18.640 on and on in terms of policy or not doing the mass deportations right the immigration exactly

00:42:23.360 but but i think the other the other side of the coin in terms of real criticism is that

00:42:28.260 they're actually in the way they've become an obstacle to exactly what you did just

00:42:31.960 just described joel which is actually continuing to move the party in the direction carrying the

00:42:37.380 momentum forward into 2028 and it's and if you have this maga coalition that is a strong coalition

00:42:43.960 that was a force in elections, if you're trying to copycat that and have a playbook, run that

00:42:50.660 exact same playbook in 2028, you are going to lose. We are calling that now. That's exactly

00:42:56.980 what we're saying. And so MAGA now has not only just been an object of criticism because they're

00:43:01.880 making bad decisions and governing poorly, but they've become an object because they're an

00:43:06.800 obstacle, they're a hurdle to actually what we're trying to accomplish now. And so that's something

00:43:13.040 that has to be understood and and uh there's the reality is is like we have to focus on 2028 we

00:43:19.840 are like to the point of turning away from maga already starting to get on the ground like running

00:43:24.660 for president you talked about popularity it's not just popularity these are massive these are

00:43:30.140 massive apparatuses right that that have to be organized and and formed years and years in

00:43:36.500 advance grassroots getting i mean lots of money involved state to state county to county all over

00:43:41.920 america these are massive organizations and and movements and they don't spring up overnight

00:43:47.020 you've got to be thinking about that now and here's the reality on the ground we're already

00:43:51.080 behind yeah yeah so if that was the white pill that wasn't as much of one but earlier

00:43:56.240 mag is dying something new is rising yep here's the warning don't fall for the rhetoric so this

00:44:02.240 was trump for example he said all of the good things jd vance you can even see i've i just

00:44:07.280 saw today someone calling him a kind of america first moment as he talked about appalachia and

00:44:12.480 all of the americans there that have been left behind which is awesome jd vance is also the

00:44:17.060 president of the united states don't settle for someone just repeating the words this is what

00:44:21.200 happens with a movement right uh it grows people don't like it then it becomes popular and people

00:44:26.340 go and they adopt the language and they steal from it that is going to happen with america first

00:44:31.480 yeah but all you need to do all right let's go ahead and take a look at the tail of the tape

00:44:35.720 correct brian donalds for instance uh running for governor in florida mr pro h1b he's actually

00:44:41.360 come out because of james fishbang putting pressure on him he's like well i'm actually

00:44:45.220 in favor of ending it well he was in congress for i think four years never authored a bill

00:44:49.800 and never did anything to move anywhere close towards ending the program now some guys truly

00:44:54.840 they don't have a record in public office you're gonna have to at some level take them at their

00:44:58.740 word okay you're promising to do this uh you seem to be upstanding in these areas successful in these

00:45:03.200 areas i'm going to have to trust you but other guys that have been in office before they're

00:45:07.540 going to they're going to stick their finger in the wind hmm mag is not where it is anymore

00:45:11.340 i want to win an election i'm an america first patriot right well hang on i can look at where

00:45:16.460 you voted here you voted here you voted here oh jd vance like he's probably going to adopt that

00:45:20.600 language he'll probably cool it a little bit on the israel rhetoric he'll use the america first

00:45:24.440 language but when he runs in 2027 it is up to you to hold them accountable and say you were vice

00:45:30.600 president for three years what did you do for us show me on paper yeah who was prosecuted what

00:45:38.220 leftists were thrown in prison what programs did you pilot you can't show any of them and and you're

00:45:43.580 you're the america first guy no you're not but you had your chance and and here's going to be the

00:45:48.440 the interesting litmus test i think there's two i think in in terms of really like are you really

00:45:53.520 willing to break because even when it's like i can look at your record look i'll give some grace

00:45:57.840 and some charity here like perhaps you can change over 10 years in terms of what coming through the

00:46:03.340 seeing through the fog seeing the forest through the trees right but but the litmus test will be

00:46:08.040 what's your stance on israel are you willing to criticize israel or not and the second is are you

00:46:13.540 willing to break with trump so that's a big one if you remember in the gop primary one of the i mean

00:46:18.920 you had so many candidates trump wasn't even showing up to the debates and the reality was

00:46:22.500 he was always going to win. He was a shoo-in. And the case and point of that fact was that no one

00:46:28.040 would criticize him. No one would criticize him because they knew he is the standard bearer. Now

00:46:33.260 the question will become in 2028, who's willing to break with Trump? Who's willing to leave him

00:46:38.980 behind and say, you know what? Actually, he was wrong on that issue. He was wrong on that. And

00:46:44.360 for the folks in his administration, so many of which we're going to see in that 2028 primary,

00:46:49.440 that's going to be a big litmus test no you're right I tweeted that out actually this morning

00:46:54.600 like this almost I don't know 7 30 or 8 o'clock I just dropped the girls off at their Christian

00:47:01.380 school and I said it's long past time to admit that Donald Trump is not our guy he was merely

00:47:07.440 the precursor to another MAGA is dead America first is ascendant this is the new litmus test

00:47:14.720 if anyone refuses to say this they're not on the team and what i mean by that is the same thing you

00:47:20.680 just said antonio when i say this is the new litmus test i don't mean just say america first

00:47:26.000 and define it as americans first putting americans first but i mean say the whole thing the the whole

00:47:33.280 tweet that i just put out which is uh the second half is america first uh the first half is maga

00:47:40.300 ain't it right maga ain't it and um and so as you're looking to new candidates you need to you

00:47:45.440 need to be able to see who is willing um to i you can be shrewd you can be strategic i understand

00:47:51.480 how politicians work i i get that uh but if if the rubber meets the road if it comes down to it

00:47:57.740 who's willing to uh to give up a a trump endorsement yep to stand on america first principles

00:48:04.740 that's your guy and you don't have to be rude about it if you're a politician you're listening

00:48:08.880 to this now, you're running for office. Be shrewd. You don't have to come out if you're

00:48:12.180 running for local mayor. I denounce Donald Trump. Like, that's silly. But you can say,

00:48:16.420 hey, he did a lot of good, but these policies have had an expiration point. I don't think he's

00:48:20.700 the future. There's tactical ways to go about it. But like all things with courage, it'll be

00:48:25.060 costly up front. There are people that won't win the election because they stand up and they say,

00:48:28.780 no, actually, this type of MAGA, propositional nationhood, we're done with it. And they might

00:48:34.100 early on lose some elections lose friendships lose endorsements but uh we've been following

00:48:39.140 this for about two years now this is the direction things are headed so the early courage now i'm

00:48:44.840 telling you guys it's going to pay off it's going to pay off in 2028 much less 2030 midterms yeah

00:48:52.220 2032 i think by 2028 i'm i'm gonna be praying we're gonna be working we're gonna be doing

00:48:57.960 everything we can but if i had to predict i'm going to say we're in trouble um 2028 but i do

00:49:05.240 believe by the grace of god 2030 midterms and 2032 um i think you will see maga completely replaced

00:49:14.140 america first completely ascendant and uh some really good candidates the only question is

00:49:20.860 will it be too late like will we still have the country uh let's go to our last commercial break

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00:55:38.320 we're back all right we are back all right so this comment has come up tons in the chat not

00:55:45.860 super chats but people just saying even even some of them in good faith you know good friends

00:55:49.560 they're picking on us like this is so funny these guys are sitting here and they think

00:55:53.260 there are political solutions to a nation that's 30 foreigners that has been invaded at our border

00:55:59.480 that has no sense of identity there are always political solutions right well first of all for

00:56:03.640 one we're not idiots and we know history i think of the meme where the guy says you know look

00:56:06.880 violence is never the answer he's like the answer is action he picks up a history book

00:56:11.260 the answer is uh uh uh uh like yeah we recognize that history is replete with tons of different

00:56:17.840 movements that have happened that's still political for one that's still political

00:56:21.200 for two we're aware of history i've used this illustration because people say that a lot guys

00:56:25.500 in our church have said that you know like you're not doing anything you're screaming into the void

00:56:29.320 you're really going to vote for this guy and this guy and for one we're going to stop the pity votes

00:56:34.520 I'm not voting for Ted Cruz again.

00:56:36.260 Well, we're going to lose the Senate.

00:56:37.740 Okay.

00:56:38.460 You gave me a terrible candidate.

00:56:39.860 I'm not voting for him.

00:56:41.080 He represents America more than he represents Texas.

00:56:43.460 I'm done with that.

00:56:44.420 No, you mean he represents Israel more than he represents Texas.

00:56:48.840 That's right.

00:56:49.720 I'm not voting for him.

00:56:50.680 So all that aside, though, when a movement gets, when our movement gains enough speed,

00:56:55.920 enough people, enough voices, and enough influence, there actually isn't going to be any stopping

00:56:59.920 it.

00:57:00.260 Like demographics is destiny.

00:57:01.900 Yes, for voting, but practically speaking, if you had 20 million men, loved Christ, honored

00:57:07.180 him, they were convicted of the need to take back our country, they saw the way to do it,

00:57:11.760 the necessity of the moment, they could do it.

00:57:14.120 It doesn't really matter if they're outnumbered or whatever it would be.

00:57:17.160 It's totally possible when you have the amount of people, and I don't think the amount of

00:57:20.220 people needs to be 60, 70, 80%.

00:57:22.300 You're never going to get that.

00:57:24.000 A small, convicted minority leading the way for the rest.

00:57:27.820 Now, what you do need is time.

00:57:29.680 Think of a plane going to take off of a runway, and the runway itself is disintegrating.

00:57:34.900 The plane can take off if you have enough distance.

00:57:37.240 It really can.

00:57:38.100 That plane, as it gets enough speed, enough momentum, enough propulsion, it will take

00:57:41.860 off and it will fly and it will be fine.

00:57:44.520 It has to have enough runway.

00:57:46.420 So one of the reasons we put all this effort into voting and revolve behind the scenes

00:57:50.180 politically is to give enough runway for this movement to grow, for people to wake up, to

00:57:56.200 see what they've lost and say, for one, Christ is the answer.

00:57:59.300 We need Christ. And two, here's what we need to do about it. So we're assembling the runway.

00:58:05.200 We're getting people stuffed into the plane. You guys, hopefully, you're helping to man the

00:58:09.080 engines. If we have enough runway, we will take off. That's why we're involved in politics. Not

00:58:14.380 because we're going to vote our way out of this. Not because, well, if we just vote even harder

00:58:18.800 and just keep doing the right thing in 25 years, we'll be good. No, we'll probably have rough years

00:58:22.820 ahead of us. But if we can survive long enough, I think we're going to win. Yeah, I think so too.

00:58:27.880 All right, next super chat.

00:58:29.320 So that was this DuRox.

00:58:30.320 Yeah, so this DuRox, he sent $10.

00:58:32.060 I'll just read it for context.

00:58:33.340 He's kind of summing up the whole chat.

00:58:34.700 He said, chat today says

00:58:35.920 there's no political solutions without Christ.

00:58:38.380 What are your thoughts on this?

00:58:39.300 And how do you think this is?

00:58:40.660 Thought is discounting El Salvador

00:58:42.180 or rather evidence of chat being right.

00:58:44.560 Yeah, there's no long-term

00:58:46.020 indefinite political solutions without Christ,

00:58:48.220 but there are absolutely political solutions with Christ.

00:58:51.340 That's the thing.

00:58:51.840 It's not, that's a false dichotomy.

00:58:53.440 So it's either Christ or political solutions.

00:58:55.880 Now you can be, you must be Christian.

00:58:57.880 right? We must make America Christian again, right? Macca. We've got to make it Christian again.

00:59:02.720 Otherwise, you know, you have a good life here on earth, temporally like a vapor, and then you,

00:59:06.800 you know, you die and go to hell. That's not loving anyone. And so it's not less than Christ,

00:59:12.900 but it's not Christ or political solutions. Because if it's just Christ, then sure,

00:59:20.620 people will go to heaven, and that's what matters most. That's most important.

00:59:23.700 but life on earth will be terrible there are plenty of christians in north korea who die and

00:59:28.280 go to heaven but their life in north korea is really really rough and we would like to avoid

00:59:32.680 that if possible so there is this is what i think people miss there is a very real category of

00:59:40.600 america being christian but still being a terrible place to live so it's it can't just be christ it

00:59:47.640 has to be christ all of christ for all of life it has to be christ applied it has to be theology

00:59:52.820 applied and and so all we're arguing we're not arguing hey political solutions um other than

00:59:59.460 christ instead of christ no we're saying it's got to be christ and political solutions it can't just

01:00:04.740 be you know what uh we're going to have more national days of prayer and also more h1b visas

01:00:10.100 no no no it's got to be more prayer more conversion more preaching and also more deportations also

01:00:18.400 not doing 50-year mortgages also uh getting out of the national debt like it it is it's both it's

01:00:25.880 both that's all we're saying okay uh let's go to here's a 10th generation american s o a sons of

01:00:33.240 the american revolution all right all right he gave us five dollars we appreciate that he said

01:00:37.300 steps to guide fam and community in growing nat uh nat ethnic national ethnic pride without

01:00:46.360 seeming to overshadow our identity in christ thanks for all you do um thank you we appreciate

01:00:53.600 that so again he's asking what are some steps to guide people into uh growing a sense of national

01:01:00.380 slash ethnic pride uh but without ultimately abandoning our christian principles our our

01:01:07.120 chief identity highest identity being in christ what do you guys say um i don't know i'll be

01:01:14.500 honest, I don't know that I've met the person, they're probably out there, that at this point

01:01:17.880 in time in these United States, their identity as an American is truly overshadowing them,

01:01:23.720 their identity as a Christian. And I say that to say, to whatever degree you want to emphasize

01:01:28.340 that, which is good and right, I do think it would be hard in our time to actually succeed in like

01:01:33.800 truly getting to the point where it's like, this guy loves America more than he loves Jesus. It's

01:01:38.080 possible, it could happen, but we have been so deficient in that, in our natural affection,

01:01:42.500 in our pride. Remember when it comes to the nation and patriotism. Patriotism is rooted in

01:01:47.560 the word father. You're having pride in your fathers and what they did, and we've had such

01:01:51.600 a deficiency of it that I would struggle to imagine. Say you put the American flag out back,

01:01:56.800 and it's Memorial Day, and it's July 4th, and you're telling stories, and the bedtime stories

01:02:00.760 you read at night. This is actually what I do with my son. I'm reading them from an American

01:02:04.380 folklore book. It's Paul Bunyan, and it's George Washington, and it's Robert E. Lee. I would find

01:02:09.020 of difficult to find someone who's, they've infused their life with a lot of these things,

01:02:12.780 and they're still a Christian, that actually has gotten to the point of sinful idolatry. So I would

01:02:17.600 say take those things as much as you can. What flag do we fly? The American flag. Maybe it's the

01:02:22.600 Texas flag, if you live in Texas, for example. So pride in your nation, pride in your state. It's

01:02:27.240 the stories you tell. It's the songs that you sing. It's the people you look up to. There's a dear

01:02:31.860 family in our church, and they just have quotes from Robert E. Lee on the wall as a remembrance of,

01:02:36.600 here's a great incredible American who did incredible things and I want my sons and daughters

01:02:41.160 when they think of great men to think of him and the encouragements that he had um so doing that

01:02:47.020 I agree in a nutshell I think what Wes is saying he's absolutely right is that um we are much

01:02:52.700 further off the rails than people are willing to admit right um like you just have to recognize

01:02:58.200 that virtually every single Christian in the west is a full-blown gnostic they really are by by any

01:03:05.420 theological standard, virtually any theologian from 100 years or older, if they were to come

01:03:11.940 and arrive and visit today, they'd say, oh my goodness, you guys, you're not even orthodox

01:03:17.900 anymore. You are Gnostics. You have come to the place that natural affections, the temporal,

01:03:24.400 the earthly life, the physical is of not less account than the spiritual, but of no account.

01:03:30.660 you have embraced the Gnostic heresy, that the body is, you know, the flesh is simply just a prison,

01:03:36.420 that it's something to be despised, and your spirit, your soul is just, you know, captured,

01:03:41.940 subdued within this prison of the flesh, and it's good to just scourge yourself and to, you know,

01:03:47.360 to be accelerationist, to work towards the destruction of your nation, the destruction

01:03:51.920 of your flesh, the breakdown of marriages. You're Gnostics, and they would arrive at this

01:03:58.560 because of what christians have said for decades and decades and decades i mean think of the gospel

01:04:03.160 coalition virtually every single article for the last 20 years has been you love your family well

01:04:08.960 sounds a bit like idolatry you love your country sounds a bit like idolatry you love anything

01:04:15.300 natural anything physical anything temporal um never is that spoken of positively it's always

01:04:21.980 uh simply pushed back against as though um you're an idolater and so it's just i i guess the answer

01:04:28.800 is just um that danger that concern that 10th generation american soar brought up um is we're

01:04:36.640 just so far from overcompensating in the other direction that um that's not even i i take this

01:04:43.460 in the same here's another example um the guys are like well we're just you know i'm um i believe

01:04:50.300 in male headship but i'm just really concerned about toxic um patriarchy i'm i'm afraid about

01:04:56.440 uh i'm worried i'm just concerned about hyper patriarchy guys um we are immersed in feminism

01:05:03.480 we are nowhere near hyper patriarchy we're not even close if there even is such a thing

01:05:09.000 um and so the idea well i'm worried about hyper nationalism i'm worried about um idolatrous

01:05:16.260 patriotism there's i think that those actually could be things and have been things in the past

01:05:22.360 we have been nowhere close we have been on the full opposite end of the spectrum for a century

01:05:27.880 so we're just uh i i don't know like uh yeah come come back come see me in 100 years right

01:05:35.240 and and we'll see if maybe it's a concern worth talking about we're nowhere close right now yep

01:05:41.100 and they were just asking for steps and so like i said earlier uh adorning everyday life with

01:05:45.180 things that call to mind that celebrate that speak highly of your heritage without fear of i don't

01:05:50.520 want to overshadow you know my relationship to christ yeah and i'm saying that not because i

01:05:54.300 know this is our guy yeah 10th generation american he's our guy great guy um one of the best guys i

01:06:00.060 know him great guy the best guy um i know his swing um he's great guy uh so i know he's you

01:06:07.200 know he's on our side i'm saying that um as an answer to equip him um because i i felt like in

01:06:12.700 the question that you know part of what he's trying to get at is um he's heard that objection

01:06:17.380 himself exactly equip me with some rhetoric when i get this objection from you know grandma or from

01:06:22.320 you know this person or that person and that's that's my suggestion that's my recommendation is

01:06:26.640 that you tell them hey look at the big picture pan out get the 30 000 foot view we are all the

01:06:32.000 way on the other end of the spectrum and so when you're there wholesale as a country uh worrying

01:06:38.700 about the opposite air that you're not even close to is silly yeah and i would just say i would just

01:06:44.860 add that what i think you alluded to this west but like what's wonderful about being an american i

01:06:49.520 think specifically is that the two things your your ethnic and national identity aren't aren't

01:06:55.760 divorced from christ actually so when you think about adorning your life with uh you know songs

01:07:01.940 and art and history from your nation,

01:07:05.760 it's actually, I think you can have an emphasis

01:07:08.300 with respect to the Christian identity

01:07:11.460 that has existed in America.

01:07:13.360 And so, I mean, to the extent that you can tailor it

01:07:16.380 even within your national identity and ethnic identity

01:07:19.800 to the things that the Christian faith has done through them,

01:07:24.840 I think you won't be hard-pressed in America.

01:07:27.620 It's George Washington praying.

01:07:29.200 It's American and Christian.

01:07:30.860 you're bringing those together exactly i love it okay this dude rocks that's the next one five

01:07:34.780 dollars we appreciate it um this guy this guy's racking up like i kid you not 10 super chats a

01:07:41.360 live stream he probably has a second job like he's saying in the last commercial break he was like

01:07:46.620 are you this dude dude rocks are you sitting in these super chats um no we appreciate you thank

01:07:52.160 you he said uh why won't trump as an elderly lame duck president right he's saying like the dude is

01:07:58.420 80 something years old he won't have the house so he can't pass one again he's yeah exactly he's

01:08:04.200 about to lose the house um so he's got nothing to lose is what he's saying so why would he a lame

01:08:09.380 elderly lame duck president refuse to just turn on his owners and foreign interests and do his

01:08:16.100 own thing and then he suggests he said is it contracts blackmail pride to which i would

01:08:21.480 respond by saying i think all the above i think all the that's our whole question why what does

01:08:27.340 you owe the Adelsons you can't give people money and say you have to sign in the dotted line you'll

01:08:31.100 do this what are they gonna do you can turn on them yeah unless unless there really is like

01:08:36.720 something that people could expose yeah I I think I think that's certainly on the table I I I think

01:08:43.320 there's a you know you can think about it from the political uh sort of view first and say look at

01:08:49.440 the end of the day he wants to be a good president he cares about his legacy as all men would in that

01:08:53.800 situation and if you turn on your donors as you turn on the people who got you in office

01:08:58.080 your your life's going to be hell you're not going to get anything accomplished day to day

01:09:03.100 you're going to be fighting you're going to get you know smeared and that's not fun i and trump

01:09:07.780 knows that better than anyone and so i think there's an element of just the political reality

01:09:11.540 being like look i want to i want to go along to get along i think the there's certainly the the

01:09:16.800 personal element as well in terms of just pride i i don't think we can divorce the things trump does

01:09:22.240 from personal conviction like we we disagree with him but i think i think to be charitable he

01:09:27.900 actually does believe things that that we disagree with and he he has conviction about them and he

01:09:32.420 wants to stand by them and wants to see them come to fruition and so i i think his highest conviction

01:09:37.560 is honestly it's it's surrounding economic policies yeah i think his highest conviction is like the

01:09:42.600 tariffs and things like that and for the record i think that actually had some america first spirit

01:09:47.860 behind it that was honestly one in his second best area business exactly so like he's a 1990s

01:09:53.920 liberal new york democrat who was and is a very savvy businessman so i think that's really his

01:10:00.880 his highest conviction i mean we are talking about the guy at the end of the day and i voted for him

01:10:05.040 so i'm not i'm not trying to give people a hard time but we are talking about the guy who is what

01:10:09.040 on his third marriage serial adulterer uh posed you know for pictures with hugh hefner is arguably

01:10:15.000 on the epstein list you know all those kinds of things uh we're talking about that guy um so the

01:10:20.440 if we think that his ideology that his convictions are going to be in a moral arena then i i think

01:10:26.860 we're just we're being naive and we're expecting we're expecting something from a guy who's just

01:10:31.500 not that guy uh but he has had i think if trump has so one i think he is very much you know what

01:10:38.480 do the people like i love people who love me i hate people who hate me you know like i think

01:10:42.520 he's guided a lot by the masses and what the mass is saying wanting to be liked um and other than

01:10:48.320 that in terms of does he have any convictions of his own i think most of them are in regards to

01:10:53.880 economic business policies and i think in his first term there were also were some genuine

01:10:59.280 convictions when it came to foreign affairs um that's about it and the reason why that made him

01:11:05.420 so look and made otherwise liberal exactly on the on the culture war on the moral issues liberal

01:11:10.960 and america first on some of the economic policies and those kinds of things um and the reality is

01:11:17.140 that uh that things were so so so so bad for decades and decades and decades with you know

01:11:23.540 the gop that um it was just such a low bar that trump looked amazing by comparison he really he

01:11:29.800 really did so all right uh let's let's skip down so this is jesse esp he gave us 300 super chat

01:11:36.920 take note of that guys that's a new bar everybody shooting for 300 new high score new high score

01:11:43.580 man no we appreciate it very generous very kind he said when an extended family member is actively

01:11:49.140 sinning and it is endorsed by the rest of the family for the sake of family unity parentheses

01:11:55.380 or at least they tell me uh there's nothing that they can do close parentheses is it wrong to not

01:12:03.120 want to participate in the thanksgiving supper when you have to pretend for the sake of family

01:12:09.620 that you have a unity that's really not there i don't know uh man i don't know i've i've done

01:12:17.120 many many many counselings with people who have struggled with you know in-laws and outlaws and

01:12:22.760 all those kinds of things that they've come to uh traditional biblical convictions and you know

01:12:28.080 their family is christian and they're either regenerate but just you're kind of modern christian

01:12:33.280 today which isn't great or they're you know christian in name only but in either case

01:12:37.520 they're normie christians and uh so this is one first thing i would say is you're not alone this

01:12:43.560 is uh very common uh pretty much everybody i feel like every young you know traditional guy who's

01:12:49.600 patriarchal who's a nationalist who's you know who's reformed in his convictions and this that

01:12:55.400 and the other, has some element of this struggle, whether it's with his mother-in-law or whether

01:13:01.160 it's with his father or whether it's with a brother. So this is very, very common.

01:13:07.160 My best advice is to strive to be at peace with all men as so far as it depends on you. As

01:13:14.980 the scripture says, family is a different category. I would remind you of that. Family is

01:13:20.860 a different category right so if it's not family or extended family then uh yeah you're not really

01:13:27.060 under any obligation to uh to pretend um you know as though there's peace peace when there is no

01:13:34.180 peace but when it comes to family uh it's just family is weighty family is significant it's not

01:13:41.260 trivial it's not a small thing and so uh family really is worth um bearing love bears all things

01:13:49.620 hopes all things um you only have one family and i understand people be like well my local church

01:13:55.020 is my family or me and the boys or you know i'm in the group chat you know we we say gm every

01:13:59.740 single morning um those things are awesome they're awesome it's not family family you only get one

01:14:05.180 family and it matters it matters even if it's hard um we should not be um we should not be casting

01:14:13.000 that off lightly and here's the deal you sit thanksgiving out that's not small you sit out

01:14:17.800 thanksgiving and uh and you i mean the message that you're that's a big strong message you've

01:14:23.580 just you've just given two middle fingers to the family um and uh that's a really big deal i had

01:14:29.020 one other thing because i've been praying about this thinking about this myself um you have an

01:14:33.760 obligation to honor thy father and mother um and that's on both sides so that that would also apply

01:14:39.580 to your your father-in-law and mother-in-law um so you have an obligation for your parents and

01:14:44.900 your wife's parents to show honor. You have that command of honor and respect. There is no such

01:14:50.820 command when it comes to siblings. So your brothers and sisters or your brothers-in-law

01:14:55.660 and your sisters-in-law, you do not have to respect them. There's only two different categories

01:15:01.940 of a biblically mandated respect when it comes to people. One is by virtue of their person. The

01:15:09.240 other is by virtue of their position. Now, ideally, you know, you're respecting the person who is

01:15:15.120 respectable in both regards, meaning position, it's someone who is in a position of authority,

01:15:20.580 like a father or a mother or the emperor, the king, a civil magistrate or a pastor or a teacher,

01:15:26.100 right? Somebody in a position of authority. So there are people who are not respectable in terms

01:15:31.180 of their person. They don't have character. They don't have virtue. They're not a respectable

01:15:34.440 person but they are in a position that mandates respect and the bible tells us it commands us

01:15:40.200 that we respect them regardless by virtue of their position even if their person is not

01:15:45.000 respectable that said if someone has no authority they're not a father or a mother or a civil

01:15:49.900 magistrate or a teacher or a pastor or anything like that they're a pauper they're a peasant

01:15:54.820 they're on the bottom of the totem pole in terms of their their position their status in society

01:16:01.480 but they're virtuous, they're godly, they're Christian, they're wise, then that person actually

01:16:06.200 is still worthy of respect because they're respectable by virtue of their person. Do you

01:16:11.960 see what I'm saying? So when it comes to your brothers and sisters, right, parents and in-laws,

01:16:16.720 when it comes to parents-in-law, so your parents and your wife's parents, if they're not respectable,

01:16:23.600 virtuous, wise, godly, courageous, these kinds of things, by virtue of their person,

01:16:29.960 you still must show honor to them or god's not going to bless you because their position aside

01:16:37.380 from their person you would hope that in their person they'd be respectable but even if they're

01:16:41.440 not by position alone they mandate respect god commands you to it when it comes though to your

01:16:47.760 siblings right so not mother and father-in-law and mother and father but now we're talking about

01:16:53.020 brothers and sisters-in-law and brothers and sisters they do not have biblically speaking

01:16:57.800 any mandated respect owed to them by virtue of their position so then it only falls on their

01:17:05.960 person and if in their person they're a libtard then you do not you are not obligated to show them

01:17:13.100 any respect at all they're family and so you should have love love bears all things so you

01:17:19.000 can have patience you can have hope you can have kindness but but you at the same time and you don't

01:17:26.100 I'm not saying advocating for saying this out loud, but privately you can just know between you

01:17:31.480 and your wife, your immediate family and the Lord. Um, yeah, when it comes to my brother or when it

01:17:36.440 comes to my sister-in-law or when it comes to this person or that person, um, they're not in a

01:17:40.380 position that requires respect and in their person, they do not have anything outstanding

01:17:46.140 in their character that mandates respect. And so you can know privately, I don't have any respect

01:17:52.140 for them at all. But I still love them. So I love them, but I don't respect them. And so then what

01:17:58.640 does love obligate? I think love obligates patience. It obligates kindness. It obligates

01:18:06.520 long-suffering, bearing all things. But love does not obligate. In fact, love prohibits flattery,

01:18:16.040 right? Saying things that you would say to someone who is respectable, to a person who's not

01:18:20.500 respectable is a lie. It's a form of flattery, which is a sin. So in love, you can exercise

01:18:27.760 kindness and patience, but not respect. Respect is a separate category. Respect must be earned.

01:18:35.460 We freely love because we're freely loved by God. While we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

01:18:41.640 But respect is a separate category. And so I would say with the family, you got to respect mom and

01:18:48.800 dad. You got to respect mom-in-law, dad-in-law. And if you got a problem with one of your brothers,

01:18:57.700 one of your sisters, brother-in-law, sister-in-law, I would strongly encourage you, one, to love them,

01:19:04.640 but then also to love them even more by proxy of honoring mom and dad. Because mom and dad

01:19:13.180 are going to be really really hurt if you don't go to thanksgiving dinner yeah and so you're not

01:19:19.780 doing it for your libtard brother you know your feminist sister-in-law or your whatever you're

01:19:26.380 doing it for mom and dad i'm going to honor mom and dad i'm going to show up i'm going to be like

01:19:31.180 the meme with the kid who's holding in the fart you know the veins busting over his head you know

01:19:34.580 as they're talking about something that's so stupid and you know it's stupid and you could

01:19:38.620 just obliterate them right there with facts and logic but you don't because you're going to honor

01:19:43.420 your your father your mother your father-in-law your mother-in-law and so you're going to show

01:19:48.540 in love not respect respect to them but in love you're going to bear all things and show kindness

01:19:53.380 and patience to the siblings well said yeah i i just to add to that or i mean i guess package it

01:19:59.400 differently is is to say um i don't think it's a it's not pretend unity when you show up to a

01:20:08.160 thanksgiving with family members that you disagree with that's not uh i think there's real unity

01:20:12.660 there outside of the specific uh and i think this is what you were basically describing is there's

01:20:17.200 actual unity that's to be had and i would just say on the topics or the specific lifestyle or

01:20:22.920 whatever it is don't feign unity in those in that in that environment right be kind be charitable

01:20:28.380 but don't pretend like you agree with it in in the presence of the things right there's a way to

01:20:33.840 both be present and say, I love you to your point and show unity in the familial sense.

01:20:39.860 A unity of presence, but not unity on a particular point that you know is wrong.

01:20:44.060 Right. And then the specific case, right? He says, it sounds like they've endorsed the

01:20:49.040 act of sinning from this person for the sake of family unity, which praise God for that,

01:20:53.320 that they at least value family unity. Now your job is to actually go into that atmosphere and

01:20:59.600 say look i value it too and i can i can disagree with it and so hopefully by that you actually can

01:21:05.580 convict the the other person right showing unity despite disagreement exactly instead of a fake

01:21:11.160 unity by feigning agreement that's that's a really good point um but just your your prep that is

01:21:17.500 unity like people say well we want unity but what they're demanding is affirmation they're demanding

01:21:22.240 that you agree even when they're blatantly wrong um you don't actually have to agree to have real

01:21:28.120 genuine that doesn't make it a fake love or a fake unity um love bears all things right there

01:21:34.060 what's implied is it bears a lot of retardation a lot of frustrating objectively wrong things being

01:21:41.260 bared with real love wrong things being bared with real love or i think of elsewhere in the scripture

01:21:47.060 was um love covers an offense there really is an offense and so it's like oh well you're just

01:21:52.620 feigning unity by showing up you know even though there's this offense and you're not talking about

01:21:57.000 it. No, one of the options with offenses, you have two options as a Christian. One is to go to your

01:22:01.800 brother with the offense. The other though is to cover an offense. You actually don't have to go,

01:22:07.600 believe it or not, crazy, big if true. Okay, this is big if true. You actually don't have to go to

01:22:12.220 your brother with every single offense. You actually have a second option available, which

01:22:18.680 is you can let love cover an offense. But here's the deal. If you choose that second option and you

01:22:24.480 let love cover the offense. You actually have to truly let love cover the offense. And what I mean

01:22:30.120 by that is you can't still just bury the offense, but allow the offense to continue living on.

01:22:36.580 Love covering the offense means I'm letting go of the offense. I am not offended. I'm no longer

01:22:42.600 offended. They did something that's offensive, but I truly, without even bringing it up,

01:22:47.480 I have freely forgiven them. I'm overlooking it. I'm not counting against them. Love keeps

01:22:53.600 no records are wronged um so that is like so then how do i go in with my family with certain members

01:22:59.340 that i profoundly disagree with on x y and z and sing kumbaya and have you know a merry christmas

01:23:06.020 how do i do that uh well the way that you do that is you pick your battles very few and far between

01:23:12.860 very selectively to actually bring up an offense in the most charitable way possible you do that

01:23:18.660 with probably a ratio of one in 10. The other nine, you don't bring the offense, you cover it.

01:23:26.800 And when I say cover it, I don't mean hide it, bury it, sequester it. I mean, you actually

01:23:33.860 let it go. You cover the offense to where there is no more offense, which means what do I need?

01:23:40.760 Well, I need a better family. No, what you need is to be a better man. More patience. God make me

01:23:46.340 more patient, more gracious, more kind. Now, I'm not saying that this is the same strategy that you

01:23:53.200 employ with every relationship you have. No, I think, you know, after careful consideration

01:24:00.640 with the vast majority of your relationships, you should become worse. You should bring the

01:24:05.700 offense. You should not tolerate compromising this, that, and the other. But I'm telling you,

01:24:10.800 family is. We're fooling ourselves if we don't say this. Family is a unique category. It is a

01:24:19.360 unique category. And what I've realized, honestly, it's kind of weird, but as I'm embracing more of

01:24:25.900 what we're talking about on this episode, America first, a return to natural affections,

01:24:31.400 not being spiritual Gnostics, recognizing that the temporal and these familial bonds actually

01:24:36.940 are significant that they matter uh one of the things that i've had to embrace is this because

01:24:41.740 there was a time you know if you talked to me 10 years ago i would have said the family of god is

01:24:46.160 my family you know and the the local church is all i need my here here are my brothers and sisters

01:24:52.860 you know uh these people who um who hold to the five solos you know and uh and you know my my

01:25:00.240 actual family because uh we had one conversation for 15 minutes a year and a half ago and uh and

01:25:07.440 it was questionable whether or not they were a calvinist and so you know what i they may be

01:25:12.120 related to me by blood but they mean nothing the people of god are like you just have to understand

01:25:18.040 you're you're a lib foolish you want it you want to be a real paleo conservative real america first

01:25:23.900 it means going to thanksgiving and being miserable for the glory of god that's part of what it means

01:25:29.640 so suck it up and uh be a man and go in there smile honor your father and your mother your

01:25:37.080 father-in-law your mother-in-law tolerate some of the siblings and do it as kindly as you can

01:25:43.140 okay next inevitable kerfuffle $20 super chat thank you sir i'm guessing sir it's a picture

01:25:50.660 of larry from veggie tale that's got to be one of our guys that's old school he said this uh

01:25:56.040 Thanks for endorsing James Fishback for Florida governor.

01:25:59.340 The Orange County GOP, led by a woman, big shocker,

01:26:02.680 recently hosted a Trump-supporting Muslim speaker.

01:26:05.260 Muslims for Trump.

01:26:06.140 Love it.

01:26:06.940 True America First candidates can have a bright future

01:26:09.300 if they don't get compromised along the way.

01:26:11.400 Amen.

01:26:11.600 Absolutely.

01:26:12.420 Amen.

01:26:13.400 Next one, Danny Boy.

01:26:14.700 He gave us $12, and he said,

01:26:16.680 Make Americans first again.

01:26:18.420 Keep doing the Lord's work, my brothers.

01:26:20.600 keep defaming the globo homo tards the uh the gay race communist amen yes and amen a thousand

01:26:27.960 times danny boy appreciate your generosity thank you so much all right next one and tonu yeah to

01:26:32.660 the chicken sent five dollars thanks for that and says uh desantis counter made it illegal for

01:26:36.920 florida to not buy israel junk bonds made us floridians slaves making us floridians slaves

01:26:44.580 say it again one more time what say it one more time uh uh de santis counter so countering what

01:26:50.800 against being uh countering not us i don't think but uh cosmic treason that we read criticism which

01:26:56.360 just for the record cosmic treason long time supporter we have some disagreements great guy

01:27:01.840 though i want to respect him go ahead but they're saying uh de santis made it illegal for florida

01:27:06.520 uh to not buy israel junk bonds which were which makes floridian slaves so i think okay so this is

01:27:14.100 actually a counter not this is a counter to the counter to the counter this is a counter to us

01:27:18.240 in agreement with cosmic trees and saying here's another positive point no negative so so desantis

01:27:23.840 uh isn't allowing foreign investment in the state of florida i think that was the point yep uh they're

01:27:29.020 saying well but he is also making illegal for to not buy israel bonds so i think that is you have

01:27:36.520 to buy you have to buy it not illegal it was a double negative illegal to not buy yeah okay

01:27:43.320 okay i gave a disclaimer desantis there is an issue that keeps him from being perfect you said

01:27:49.260 it you're right and that is that man loves him he loves him some israel uh not necessarily like

01:27:54.560 tel aviv ted level but not quite but close it's up there and a lot of american jews do live in

01:27:59.980 florida it's new york florida and i think one other place he's got a lot of them in south

01:28:03.780 ben shapiro lives in florida my goodness does he or is it tennessee with no no no no he went

01:28:08.680 he wouldn't be down there with the plebeians no exactly yeah when he left california they all

01:28:12.220 left california and he was like hey i want the team over here in tennessee yep but i'm living

01:28:16.180 in florida by myself i'm living with the boys i think he lives in uh near or in boca raton which

01:28:21.720 is a very predominantly jewish hey that's where elijah schaefer lives maybe they can be friends

01:28:26.180 maybe yeah yeah yeah all right i'll do the next one here so renee dean sent uh four dollars and

01:28:33.500 99 it's five dollars and says repeal the 19th exclamation mark uh from a wife who got this

01:28:39.780 approved by her husband and has a pie in the oven what a champ so true goodness gracious a woman

01:28:46.520 who fears the lord is to be praised god bless you uh the other paul he gave us five dollars uh he's

01:28:52.360 a great friend we've had him on the stream a couple times now great guy uh he said when is the nick

01:28:57.360 collab uh nick who who's who's nick saint nicholas uh i don't know old saint nick um going through

01:29:04.200 all the nicks here uh so he's talking about when are you going to do a collab with nick fuentes

01:29:07.720 he's been praising you uh heaps he said so nick fuentes on his live stream has been giving you

01:29:12.660 shout outs joel um when are you going to do a collab and i have an answer the answer is stay

01:29:18.780 tuned all right next garrett mazel he gave us five dollars and he said how far does first timothy

01:29:27.380 chapter two go for women's apparel right not braided hair those kinds of things uh women's

01:29:32.860 apparel regarding jewelry my young girl is wanting her ears pierced this is a good question and i

01:29:39.100 want to steward her correctly great question that's a godly father he loves his girl he's probably

01:29:45.460 just for the record defending him he's probably inclined his little girl wants earrings he

01:29:49.800 probably wants to get her earrings you know make his little girl happy but at the same time she's

01:29:54.180 a little girl right her chief you know premier occupation right now should be butterflies it

01:29:59.540 should be rainbows it should be unicorns you know it's those kinds of things and uh and we don't

01:30:04.400 want to make our little girls uh look like grown women too soon and so that that is um the fact

01:30:09.920 that he's even mindful of that is a good thing and that being mindful of of that ditch on one

01:30:15.180 side does not even begin to imply or necessitate that he doesn't have the father's heart who wants

01:30:21.000 to make his little girl smile um great question worded really well um also so i i've you know

01:30:28.060 gone through the gambit you know on this particular issue i i'm i'm a girl dad i've got one son

01:30:33.400 four daughters um which is like who radicalized you did you not hear me i said i have four

01:30:40.660 daughters with each one i became more of a far-right extremist um and i have to for their

01:30:46.460 well-being um so with this um my wife and i you know we we've kind of thought and rethought you

01:30:53.880 know these kinds of things um i think part of it depends on what the earrings are so i don't think

01:30:59.420 it's a pass fail system i guess is what i'm getting i don't think it's just like um no ear

01:31:03.620 piercings um until they're 12 or until until they're 14 or until they're 16 or 18 um i think

01:31:10.620 a big part of it is just it's it's everything combined it's it's the um it's the the full

01:31:16.720 comprehensive sum um so it's like is it gaudy earrings and full makeup and mascara and lipstick

01:31:26.580 and you know and uh shoes and all like um is it is it the whole nine yards to where your seven

01:31:32.440 year old is is very just visibly trying to to present herself as though she's an 18 year old

01:31:40.380 woman then then you need to scale back she's not an 18 year old woman um but i think you know it's

01:31:46.820 weighing one thing against another so if it's hey we're not you know we're not going to do makeup

01:31:51.420 at six years old okay but um i you know some tasteful earrings you know for christmas we're

01:31:58.280 going to get our ears pierced and do some you know some kid childlike earrings um i i don't

01:32:03.760 think there's anything i don't think that first sympathy chapter two is saying that that's a sin

01:32:08.060 that's my position that's all right next reformed farmer sent five dollars uh he said this there's

01:32:14.960 a couple super chats nate is that a two-parter okay so five dollars first of all thank you

01:32:22.020 i said this hey guys i have become convinced of nations and nationalities by reading dr

01:32:26.720 stephen wolf's book many such cases the reformers and the series you did would me a white reformed

01:32:32.620 canadian be accepted in a community like ogden or ridge runner yes work 60 to 90 hours a week

01:32:38.640 and make 100 000 a year still can't buy a house absolutely he would be accepted of course he would

01:32:43.700 um here's the deal like it's like well wait a second that seems like a contradiction that's

01:32:49.300 you know like isn't that hypocritical uh no uh for my friends anything for my enemies the law

01:32:55.520 no it's it's not a contradiction um i love america i want america to succeed so uh public

01:33:03.700 facing at the the corporate hole no more immigration period period at a local level

01:33:12.480 uh this guy of european descent in canada who fears the lord and is paleo conservative and

01:33:21.740 speaks english and shares 99 of all of our traditions who wants to come over here and be

01:33:26.920 a part of our local church and be generous uh yeah yeah he can come well but what about the

01:33:32.840 christian in uganda no he can't come wait well that that that's not fair um it's not about

01:33:38.620 fairness we have a country to save we have a country to save one person here's the deal

01:33:43.060 um not every country is not all cultures are equal not all countries are equal um not all

01:33:50.480 religions are equal not all peoples are equal there are distinctions distinctions necessarily

01:33:56.520 create disparities. And because of that, you are allowed to be selective. Now, if in your

01:34:03.400 selectivity, you've gone to the point where you're like, well, I hate anybody in the world who's not

01:34:10.160 Western, you know, or I hate anybody in the world who's not white. Well, then that, I think that's

01:34:15.480 hateful. That's, that's not good. That's not a good impulse. I don't believe that's Christian.

01:34:19.920 I think that's wrong. An unjustified, without cause, without basis, just raw, unjustified

01:34:28.620 hatred for an entire people based off of whatever, their culture, their race, their religion,

01:34:37.640 then yeah, I think you need to repent. But here's the deal. You can be selective about who enters

01:34:43.140 your country without hating those who you don't allow to enter. And it's just a fact.

01:34:49.020 there are peoples multiple different peoples cultures religions races in the world some are

01:34:55.580 more compatible with america some are less compatible with america we know this right

01:35:00.320 this came up with the south africa thing remember that i remember getting some pushback when 49

01:35:05.000 it was like 49 south africa thousand no 49 that's a full number right less than 50 south african

01:35:13.500 people waving american flags most of them uh protestant christians and white european descent

01:35:22.520 came over to america as refugees and we're like yeah we'll take them and we said it publicly we'll

01:35:27.560 take them and we're glad that they're here and people that's hypocritical if you take 49 white

01:35:33.400 christian conservative south africans then you must take 49 million haitians no no that's not

01:35:43.660 a contradiction that's just logic there are some cultures some peoples some religions that are more

01:35:52.700 compatible with ours right catholic for instance i believe that america is a protestant nation it's

01:35:59.400 certainly our heritage. And I think still to this day, it is more Protestant than Catholic.

01:36:04.660 So will you take Catholics? Well, are they conservative? Are they compatible with European

01:36:13.840 descent and virtue and heritage? And then, okay, I think that we can take some of those and say,

01:36:23.640 well, why Catholic but not the Muslim? Because Catholicism is more compatible.

01:36:29.860 But the Catholic Pope is an antichrist. Aren't you reformed? I'm reformed. I'm aware of the

01:36:36.480 confessions. But are you really going to sit here and tell me that Catholics are less compatible

01:36:42.400 with Protestants than Muslims or Jews? That's just stupid, guys. When your convictions become just

01:36:49.880 raw ideology that defies logic and common sense, then you are embarrassing yourself.

01:36:57.960 You need to grow up. You do. You need to grow up. Muslims are less compatible with America

01:37:04.760 than Catholics. And if you're going to sit here and tell me, well, you know what? Catholics,

01:37:09.260 I guess they're compatible. Muslims definitely aren't compatible, but Jews are also compatible.

01:37:14.660 Wait, what?

01:37:15.280 Come again, please?

01:37:17.240 No.

01:37:18.080 Jews would fall into the Muslim category.

01:37:22.140 If anything, would be further than the Muslim category.

01:37:25.560 Catholic, Jesus Christ, Son of God.

01:37:29.080 Muslim, Jesus Christ, not Son of God, but an esteemed prophet.

01:37:33.520 Jew, Jesus Christ, boiling in hell.

01:37:37.180 Right?

01:37:37.640 This is objective.

01:37:39.360 This is not anti-Semitic.

01:37:40.840 This is facts.

01:37:42.100 That's Judaism.

01:37:42.900 That is the tenets of Judaism, the tenets of Islam, the tenets of Roman Catholicism.

01:37:49.100 So on the religion level, some religions are more compatible.

01:37:52.140 With a Protestant in America, some are less.

01:37:54.440 On the race level, some peoples are more compatible, some are less.

01:37:58.200 On the cultural level, political level, every single level, you have a sliding scale.

01:38:03.400 More compatible, less compatible, which means you're allowed to be selective and there is

01:38:08.040 no contradiction.

01:38:08.800 And anybody who says there is a contradiction is just trying to set a trap to have a gotcha

01:38:15.060 moment because in their heart of hearts, what they really want to do, what they really want

01:38:18.720 to do is destroy your country with infinity immigration and replace Christians and replace

01:38:26.400 white people.

01:38:27.560 You need to know that that's the play.

01:38:29.300 You don't need to fall for the trap.

01:38:31.100 You don't need to apologize.

01:38:32.860 You don't have to give them an explanation.

01:38:34.660 You can just say, I know what you're doing.

01:38:36.340 you hate white people and you hate christians and i don't have to play yes i'll take this person i

01:38:42.140 won't take this person i don't care i don't care i know my conscience before the lord is clear

01:38:48.500 there's no hate in my heart i just want to have a country that is reminiscent that is that is in

01:38:55.920 line with the founding of this country i want america to be america and that is not sin it's

01:39:04.020 not sin you don't have to apologize for that young white christian male you do not have to

01:39:09.080 apologize for that it does not make you a racist it does not make you hateful it's perfectly just

01:39:14.120 it's pleasing to the lord handle that position with maturity handle it with grace but also wield

01:39:19.860 it with courage and do not back down no matter how much guilt is heaped on you all right he just

01:39:25.920 followed up with a two dollar super chat and just to add to his comment from farmer he said my wife

01:39:30.640 is american i have asked questions before great great that's even more compatible yeah if your

01:39:35.600 wife even more and we had pretty much the same question like three streams ago where someone was

01:39:40.180 like yeah you know but uh you know it's it's two spouses one of them is american okay well then that

01:39:44.900 all makes you all the more compatible um i think that that's legitimate okay uh antonio yep uh

01:39:50.660 jd peabody sent ten dollars no comment just to support so thank you for that thanks um the next

01:39:56.060 one savad atokad sent uh ten dollars thanks for that and says i'm a white happily married homeowner

01:40:02.580 with three kids and one on the way i have strong male friendships and a great church and i'm only

01:40:07.860 29 i am an anomaly and i hate it americans first make me average again well said the other day he

01:40:15.800 said in the chat oh okay backwards is dakota dakota davis okay dakota davis and we just

01:40:23.960 doxed him he's losing his job okay um no that man great comment uh one thanks for the ten dollars

01:40:31.560 and two uh great comment so he's saying um all the things that you guys talk about that are

01:40:38.100 nearly impossible for young white christian men uh by the grace of god that's not me yeah that's

01:40:44.560 not can't be done but he's saying so number one have hope it could be done but number two he's

01:40:49.380 not just saying well why don't you try harder why don't you you know solo bootstrap you even more

01:40:53.620 Why don't you, you know, why can't you be like me?

01:40:55.620 Look at, notice the attitude here, right?

01:40:57.980 This young men will lend their ear to.

01:41:00.840 He's saying, I'm not like that.

01:41:02.360 I worked really hard by the grace of God.

01:41:04.040 I accomplished it, but I know that I'm an anomaly

01:41:06.800 and I don't want to be.

01:41:08.720 I want my brothers to be able to experience

01:41:10.880 the same kindness, the same ability,

01:41:13.180 the same availability that I've had.

01:41:15.360 That is a great attitude.

01:41:17.420 I commend it.

01:41:18.760 All right, next.

01:41:19.240 All right, John Inman, 1999.

01:41:22.180 That's our boy.

01:41:23.000 my guy he said what's up boys love you guys i think of uh megamind he's like and i love you

01:41:28.900 random citizen and we love you john we love you john and we do great guy uh john inman just just

01:41:35.860 saying it is a movie night he's going out there it is a movie night text for details uh but just

01:41:43.660 saying john john's a local guy great guy and it is a movie night all right uh brown anglo-saxon

01:41:49.240 protestant he gave us 10 bucks we appreciate that he said my father-in-law is a major narcissist

01:41:55.420 okay uh he doesn't respect my wife or our boundaries and we've tried reasoning with him

01:42:03.460 he and my wife are now estranged that's really sad sorry to hear that uh how do we show him honor

01:42:10.920 you know what i addressed this years ago and you know by god's grace i've changed on some things

01:42:17.700 it's like well you changed you changed isn't it funny when people are like you changed and they

01:42:21.980 and they assume that that's a gotcha like that somehow discredits what you're saying it's like

01:42:25.680 like okay show me the guy who in 15 years hasn't changed aka has never repented has never been

01:42:31.220 sanctified has never grown has never thought has never improved has never developed and tell me

01:42:35.740 again why that's a brag so yes i have changed on many things this one i haven't i answered it years

01:42:42.480 ago and i'm going to give the same answer now because i think it's right one way to honor

01:42:46.560 someone who by position mandates honor. You're commanded. And a father-in-law is in that

01:42:52.600 position like I talked earlier. So the position, regardless of his person, his position mandates

01:42:57.600 honor. So you must show it. So how do you honor a man who is in a position of honor but in his

01:43:03.500 person is dishonorable? How do you honor them? I think the way that you honor them is by covering

01:43:11.160 the things that are not honorable so i think of the two sons not not the third the bad one but

01:43:18.080 the two sons of noah how do you honor your your father when he's laying naked drunk in a tent

01:43:24.980 not a good look right well that particular moment is not an honorable moment right so so you don't

01:43:32.860 flatter because that requires deceit lying which is a sin so you don't go in you say uh like the

01:43:38.640 emperor has no clothes dad you must have invisible thread to make this new outfit and it's gorgeous

01:43:43.240 and lovely and oh my good like oh that's a lie so so how do you honor dad if in his person he's

01:43:50.040 dishonorable or in that particular moment or season or whatever he's become dishonorable or

01:43:55.440 committed a particular action or said a particular thing that is dishonorable the way you do it is

01:44:01.140 like the two sons of Noah they don't um the way they honor their dishonorable father but they

01:44:07.300 know by virtue of his position, he mandates honor. By virtue of that recent action, there's no honor

01:44:13.420 that can be given. So what do they do? They cover his shame. They cover his shame. They don't flatter

01:44:18.300 it. They don't lie about it. They don't try to pivot or tweak or twist. They don't rebrand.

01:44:24.060 They don't try to put a positive spin. What they do is they conceal. They cover. And I think that's

01:44:30.660 what you can do if you have a parent or a parent-in-law somebody like that in your life who

01:44:37.240 by virtue of their position mandates honor but is behaving dishonorably what you can do is not lie

01:44:45.260 and say well my my father or my mother-in-law or my so-and-so such and such is just so amazing and

01:44:52.680 so incredible sometimes objectively they're just not they're not amazing they're not incredible

01:44:56.760 but if that be the case what you can do is you can cover it you can just cover it and i think

01:45:03.540 i think of our local church i think there are um a lot of men in our local church and the women for

01:45:09.140 that matter but especially the men because i spend more time with them obviously um all the time man

01:45:15.120 when when we're talking and and one of our fathers comes up in the discussion or one of our fathers

01:45:20.840 is in town around the holidays visiting or something like that it's just you can just see

01:45:25.340 Like that son, whether he's talking about his dad or introducing his dad to, you know, a men's hangout, you know, guys night or something like that, because he's in town for the weekend.

01:45:33.880 It's just that guy, that grown adult son who's a member in our church is just bending over backwards to honor his dad.

01:45:42.700 And the reality, and I know, not because later on behind their father's back, they whisper, whisper, say this, say that.

01:45:49.520 No, they never do.

01:45:51.960 They cover him.

01:45:52.840 they cover him not just when he's there not just when he comes up in conversation but all the time

01:45:57.460 but i know in many cases it's like yeah that guy's dad is a raging zionist you know or that

01:46:04.380 guy's dad is like the most normie dispensationalist you could possibly imagine like that guy's you

01:46:10.580 know that guy's dad um when he thinks of a far-right ultra conservative he thinks of steve

01:46:16.040 days you know like that guy like you know um but here's the deal his son his son you'll never hear

01:46:23.240 the words out of his mouth hey you know my dad i remember when i was a kid he did x y and z

01:46:27.940 my dad is uh a rock star or hey my dad's in town and uh we're doing cigars and uh here he is want

01:46:35.500 you guys to meet him and just nothing but positive things to say so i think you know that's that's

01:46:40.640 how you do it how do you um how do you honor a dishonorable person who by virtue of their

01:46:45.420 position mandates honor well sometimes there's not a whole lot of positive things to highlight

01:46:51.380 so then what you can do is have negative things that you can seal and that's the show for today

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The NXR Podcast - November 12, 2025

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