THE LIVESTREAM - MAGA Is Dead, America First Is Rising
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Summary
In this episode, we re-visit a clip that has been going viral on social media over the past 24 hours. We discuss the context of the clip and where it comes from, and where we need to go from here.
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america's got talent well in the case of donald trump america does not have talent yes your
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country will continue to be flooded by h1b visas indians from all over because well you suck you
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don't know what you're doing you're not talented you're not gifted you're not impressive and the
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rest of the world is better now that's the probably the strongest way that i could rehash
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the clip that's been going viral of Donald Trump over the last 24 hours.
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We're going to get into the context, get into some of his meaning.
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But the way that I just said it still has at least some measure of truth to it.
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At best, Donald Trump may have actually been getting towards something that might be needed in some regard,
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And the biggest thing that we're going to prove in today's episode is that at the end of the day, it's not just that you and I perhaps changed over the last, whatever it is, 10 years, becoming more and more right wing.
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objective and we are going to show you from 2016 right now to 2025 the year of our lord the
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objective definitive change from trump he is pulling back he is compromising whether it's on
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abortion back in 2016 saying yeah the woman who gets an abortion well i don't know how else to
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think about it other than there must be some kind of penalty for her she's committing murder
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she's doing something wrong to where his campaign in 2024 he was way off of that rhetoric he was
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about as pro-abortion in his campaign in 2024 as any democrats all the way up until i don't know
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maybe the last eight years and then with h1b's we'll show you a clip from 2016 where he's like
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no, it's not good for the American worker. Here's where we are. MAGA is dying. It is.
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I mean, I think that I'm actually, we're going to present to you a balanced, tempered, moderate view
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because I'm inclined to say MAGA is dead. It's not just dying. It's dead. But we'll go ahead
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and do our best. We'll steel man everything that we can. Do our best to provide the moderate
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position without the hyperbole at minimum MAGA is dying and the single issue that is going to win
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not just the next presidential election but arguably elections whether it be midterms
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or the presidential for decades to come will be this America first and America first means
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Americans first. Make Americans first again. That's going to be the slogan. It's not just
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America being great again. It's America being first again. And America means Americans.
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If America is first with GDP, if America is first to land on Mars, if America is first in the AI
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race but we accomplish all this by ultimately replacing americans heritage real americans
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with paper americans who just showed up 15 minutes ago and call them just as american as anyone else
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then the leaders of our country they're not just neocons they're not just democrats
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they should be tried and hung for treason they are traitors to their citizens they are traitors
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to their people they are monsters of the most vile variety and we need to speak in these terms
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today's episode it's going to be it's going to be quite a journey we're going to show you a lot
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We're going to talk about a lot, but we're also going to talk about solutions.
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I feel like I've been doing this a lot lately, but it's important to, when it comes to criticizing
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trump i think we could all would be happy to go on the record i mean especially for me and joel
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like we were on there for a good six months oh yeah what's the live stream today vote for trump
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vote for trump uh yeah we're not scrubbing we're not hiding we're not doing it was a year ago we
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were here in this one year ago election live stream one year ago hype videos we were shilling
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for trump and here's the thing we actually weren't we were getting it's like the the meme where
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there's like you guys are getting paid we weren't getting paid for free we were shilling for trump
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and we were doing it because we really did believe it yeah and now on the one thing he's
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done is close the border he's closed the border and if we had kamala i think we would have had
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40 million more and i live in a border state my family i have four daughters and a wife living
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in the border state and a kamala presidency it is quite possible by the time we got to 20 28 that i
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would be um i'd be a single man my wife would be dead my children dead like i mean really what like
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i'm not just being extreme it really was that severe so i don't regret it i don't regret it
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yet at the same time at this point um i'm never i'm never doing it again and i don't mean never
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doing it again just voting for trump what i mean is that um i i can't i can't we can't just keep
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saying well this would be a little better than that this would be a little better than that
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the only thing we have to sway politicians is our vote and if they know if the gop knows they can
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get our vote by simply being just a little bit better than a communist then then that's what
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we will because they have an r beside their name right that's what we'll forever get is someone
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just a little bit better than a communist and honestly if that's what it takes i'm ready i'm
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ready to just go out i feel like it's sink or swim if that's what it takes is um i'm going to
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withhold my vote because you actually have to serve me. You actually have to do better. And I
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know that if I withhold my vote, I'm going to get this other person who's going to bring 40 more
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million people and will never win an election again. So it's either this, the GDP or GOP has
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one shot in this election to get it together, or I will not give them my vote. The opponent wins
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and America is done. I think that's honest. I don't know another strategy at this point.
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i feel like that's that's what it is so i have to have my plane ticket ready
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seriously i i gotta be ready to move to poland you know move to whatever costa rica el salvador
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whatever it is and uh and withhold my vote because i can't keep sending the message all you have to
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do is be an inch better than the communist we can drive off the cliff but by golly 25 miles an hour
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maximum you can still do it but we need to get there slower that's all it is that's all it ever
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so i say hey a year ago we were in trump's corner we still want him to do good we're still rooting
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for him but a year ago we supported him and you go back to 2016 i could speak for myself guys i was
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trump's top guy there was a point where my phone wallpaper was trump fully supportive i've been to
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the rallies january 6th i showed up to support him i felt the election had been stolen he deserved
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justice he was showing up his office i was not in nancy pelosi's office the whole time um i nearly
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got pictures yeah i was nearly assaulted in baltimore for wearing a maga hat like i was
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trump's guy a lot of us i think joel you were a little bit later but antonio you said it too
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i was a little speak for yourself at one point i have always known trump wasn't our guy
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i remember in october before the election you were like he's the great man he is no i i thought that
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yeah i think i think and we can get into this further but i think a lot of what's happening is
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the GOP just frankly is not prepared for the demographic change that's happening to the
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base of the party in terms of the under 30 white man being incredibly far right, incredibly far
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right. Like you still got the GOP comprised predominantly of boomers and particularly in
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the influence of the party. And those are the people like one of the things that I loved about
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Trump and I still think is actually a decent quality is how collaborative he is, how he wants
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to hear what everyone has to say in the room but the problem is when everyone in the room is a you
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know 2015 boomer gop george bush lookalike george bush lookalike exactly it's like that's that's
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where trump fails so uh i think i think that's what we're kind of getting at is like we're seeing
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the fruits of that that that reality in this administration in a way that they it was present
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it was present in the first administration um but uh but trump just wasn't as established he
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wasn't as like rooted in it as he is now right he truly is in a lot of ways the swamp the donor
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story is huge the big donors that came out that he is much more beholden to since they supported
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his campaign in 2024 like you guys you have to recognize that is a big difference yeah trump was
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not supported by establishment trump was not as much supported by none of them the republican
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party apparatus right he wasn't supported by those in 2016 and his message all that to say
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his message was actually good uh his message america first that slogan uh nick fuentes actually
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coined it right he took it from a trump speech trump saying it needs to be america first trump
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said things you alluded to it in the cold open hey uh women that procure abortions are murderers
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and they should be charged and prosecuted as such that's great rhetoric i remember him saying hey
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you take manufacturing out of the United States, I'm going to slap you with tariffs for taking
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these manufacturing, these jobs out of here. Let's go ahead and play a clip. This is from
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the 2016 debate. This is him talking about the H-1B program. Super quick, 30, 40 seconds.
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Well, first of all, I think, and I know the H-1B very well, and it's something that I frankly use,
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and I shouldn't be allowed to use. We shouldn't have it. Very, very bad for workers. And second
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of all, I think it's very important to say, well, I'm a businessman and I have to do what I have
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to do and it's sitting there waiting for you but it's very bad it's very bad for business and in
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terms of it's very bad for our workers and it's unfair for our workers and we should end it
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look at that where did that guy go remember him man i love that guy notice the crowd cheering
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yep 10 years ago they loved it this is awesome we support ending this you did not just become
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more radical donald trump objectively changed he moved to the left and he did it for i think
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a few reasons one because in 2016 he was not beholden to a bunch of jewish donors who have
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given him hundreds of millions of dollars combined he had a hundred million just from the edelsons
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secondly um in 2016 uh the truth still would have been the truth but there didn't seem to be
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any looming moment of uh donald j trump's name being revealed in the epstein files
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like let's just be honest uh when i think of this term those are the two main differences that i
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think of i think beholden to donors and epstein files i feel i feel like the epstein files is a
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big thing and and we could just gloss over it i think a lot of us including myself we were you
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know we didn't know what to think but we're inclined to think you know well elon's just he's
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just being emotional he's just mad because his bromance you know with trump ended the way that
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he didn't like and blah blah blah and at the end of the day i'm gonna side with trump over elon
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because elon's a foreigner you know he's south african he's not america um now i'm actually
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looking back and i'm thinking remember when elon tweeted out the reason why trump blah blah blah
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blah blah is because he's in the epstein files uh i think i think bro cooked i think i think
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there was something there when was the last time you mentioned early antonio that trump claimed he
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had relations uh like connection saw jeffrey epstein what was the last time he said he said
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on record 2008 is what he said was the last time he had ever really which was prior to i think
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jeffrey epstein's first conviction for what was going down on it would have been around or just
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before that time yeah exactly and what do we know now the emails that are coming out so a whole trove
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of them uh from the uh jeffrey epstein committee the house committee house committee on oh i'm not
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sure i believe anyway a trove of epstein emails released and to the through the 2010s most
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certainly the early parts people are referencing trump in relation to epstein i saw one email
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now this is just this is very quickly seeing it i of course i'm not verifying i'll bet my life on
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I don't want to walk in on Trump in Epstein's house again.
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So Trump claimed, 2007, 2008, last relations I had with the man.
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People asking about pictures of Trump with underage girls in bikinis.
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someone's word when they're a politician. The next
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politician coming in will not have a track record
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You do have to go off the word of a politician.
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exactly we trusted him because um he was a blessing from god and i and this just needs to
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be said i feel like the best way i can say it clear is most concise is that um you know the
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chimp praise chimp praise chimp you know you get bad trump one day he was like h1b's millions of
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them they're coming in because america's you know doesn't have talent and we need you know the
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geniuses in india india you know to replace the dumb dumbs in america okay well that's a chimp
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day you know where you you rally and you're like stop that trump you know and then there's days
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where he does something good and you praise um no uh we're past that we are past that um
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what we need now is not praising and chimping what we need now is um no praise for trump at all
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we can praise god for old trump and what trump has done not what he's doing and not what he will do
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but what he has done so i have no praise for trump um i have praise to the lord for using
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providentially trump as a cyrus type figure he was never our guy but as a precursor paving the way
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for someone who truly is america first so i praise god not trump for what god did through trump
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before it's not happening anymore and then from here on out we just have to realize uh what do
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we do so we chimp you know so that trump you know changes his tune he serves america no this is what
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you have to realize is um the ship sailed right it's too late trump had one year one year he
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didn't get it done we will be slaughtered in the midterms it will be a it already is and it will
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just be confirmed as a lame duck presidency for the rest of his term uh trump blew it and half
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of his cabinet in 2027 are going to leave to go and run for president yes marco rubio and jd
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they're all going to run against each other they're not going to be in the white house
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come 2027 it's basically 60 over so you might get one more bill passed or two correct so it's
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so my point is praise not trump praise god for what trump did the doors that he opened
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or for someone else to walk through as someone who is truly america first but what should we
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be doing now chimping and praising because maybe maggot will come through for what we should be
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doing now is pivoting and organizing and building as fast as possible because MAGA ain't it. Why?
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Because it's too extreme. No, because it's liberal. We need something far worse. After careful
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consideration, we've decided that MAGA is faking gay and we need something far worse.
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Yeah. Let's go to the comments he made yesterday. I have never seen the narrative shift on the Trump
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administration like it has in the last 24 hours. Longtime supporters, plan trusters,
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all sorts of people came out and said, this is the last straw. This is not just us here. We kind
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of privately felt it. Fire up the live stream. We're going after him. Across the breadth of the
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Republican Party, the conservative movement, tons and tons of people saying, this is the final straw
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for me. Trump sat down for an interview with Megyn Kelly. And this immigration issue, America first,
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immigration downstream of that it's probably the biggest single issue if you can think of america
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first as the umbrella immigration is honestly the biggest issue underneath it and it's like oh well
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you mean illegal immigration right no immigration high like cj angley says i do not distinguish
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between legal and illegal immigration no both are often tools like the ron swanson thing it's like
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bring me all the eggs and bacon that you have wait wait wait wait wait i'm concerned that what you
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heard me say is bring me a lot of eggs and bacon but what i said was bring me all the eggs and
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bacon you have so when it comes to immigration it's like we need to get rid of all immigration
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it's like what i'm concerned that you heard me say illegal immigration but i said we need to stop
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all immigration and this is another l uh dhs secretary christy noem it was just today she
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said uh i'll have her quote right here uh we're going to keep using our visa program so this is
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the work visa program but also more people are becoming naturalized under this admin than ever
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before. More people are becoming citizens. So it's like, well, 600,000 people have been deported
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this year. A million more have self-deported. 1.6 million illegal immigrants gone. Well, as best we
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can tell, more people are being naturalized than ever. Two million people might have just come in
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legally anyway. And it's in the backdrop of all this. Immigration is the key problem. Trump under
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a lot of fire. Guys, he is more unpopular than ever. And that has not become because men under
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30 are more liberal than ever. Trump is deeply unpopular. He's deeply unpopular with the people
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he should be popular with. And Megyn Kelly presses him on the immigration issue as it relates to
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workers. Because the big issue under fire, yes, illegal immigration, but the biggest way that
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people are coming into this nation is through the H-1B visa program, which is skilled laborers.
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You have a highly skilled laborer, which is the O-1 program. This would be your Elon Musk. So
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we're not talking about, well, this is bringing in the Elon Musks and it's bringing in these guys
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in that no h1b visa is a huge program that's ostensibly supposedly for skilled labor coming
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in to do jobs that americans can't do we forget that the h1b program is to fill slots in jobs
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that americans are not equipped to do correct bilingual for example hey we need someone on
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our team uh familiar with uh american and korean legal defense they need to speak the language
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they need to be familiar with this portion of law let's be honest like if it comes if it's
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language if that's a that's a great example sure but if that actually is what it is at this point
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the year of our lord 2025 if it's language then we don't need anybody who's not already here
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because we've already imported the entire world to our country exactly like well we need somebody
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who's fluent and uh you know to to be able to speak um vietnamese you know or be able to speak
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you know mandarin or like they're all here yeah already here and with the christy gnome quote
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there specifically. If you think back, this actually isn't the first time. This is one of
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many, many times that the Trump administration kind of accepts leftist framing. So whether it's
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about race, Trump says, no, I'm actually the president for the blacks. The blacks love me.
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Whether it's about gays, no, actually the gays love me. And then here it is on immigration. No,
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actually, if you're an immigrant, you're going to love Trump. You're going to love what we do for
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you. And so it's a pattern with this administration, both in the first term even, but also certainly in
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this second term to just accept kind of the framing around immigration, around race, around
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sexuality, and then just slightly frame it so that, no, no, no, the truth is the Republicans
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actually are more liberal in this way than the left. So it's a pattern. It's just something that
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you pick up on time and time again. You see what they're actually trying to do and you walk away
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thinking that's not what i voted for that's not that's not what i want so as the interview goes
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on it gets down to immigration and uh she says we have plenty of talented people here getting at
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exactly what we're saying there's 330 million people 350 million people here in these united
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states bilingual spanish rocket engineer we've got the people we don't need to import more
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trump's words we have plenty of talented people here trump no you don't no you don't no you don't
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have you don't have certain talents and you have to import them people have to learn and he goes
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on this illustration of saying imagine a foreign company they're headquartered in a foreign nation
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they built their wealth there and they say you know what we're going to come to america and we're
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going to build a 10 billion dollar manufacturing plant there and so some of the concern is okay
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you're building this plant who will get the jobs will americans get the jobs will people from china
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get the job where you're headquartered and he's saying hey um when that plant comes up there are
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going to be people that you need that have a skill set for technology, for missiles, for language
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that you don't have here. I'm doing my best to kind of steal man Trump's argument, to defend him.
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You don't have those people here. And so you're going to need to have at some level use work
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visas, skilled labor program, to bring those people in to train people to do the job. The
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example he uses, you can't take people off of an unemployment line to build missiles. So if
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unemployment is rising, which it is, and by the way, for October, we're probably going to never
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know the job numbers. Because of the shutdown, apparently CPI and job numbers for October will
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never be released. So we don't really know now. We're flying blind. It's going to be two months.
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We don't have any idea how the economy is doing on the jobs front. But practically speaking,
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if a lot of people are unemployed, you can't actually just take them off the street and use
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them to manufacture chips, use them to manufacture missiles. And that was Trump's point. And we'll go
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on record to say that actually is a reasonable point. There are, of course, some unique skills
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You're going to have to bring people from overseas in to do.
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There's going to be skills that they have, abilities they have, things that they know.
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This is why we're coming out and saying enough is enough.
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Here's how you actually lead that conversation.
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Hey, President Trump, the American citizens who voted you into office are deeply concerned
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that these programs are replacing the American worker.
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they're taking jobs, they're taking money, they're taking spots that could be used,
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they're consuming housing. It's eroding the core population of these United States.
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Here's what you say as a president. If you're in touch, if you understand the issues,
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you know what? I totally get that. Let me give you my personal guarantee, an investment here,
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manufacturing growing here. These are jobs that will primarily go to Americans. I share your
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concern. We are not going to be importing thousands and thousands of people to do jobs
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that americans can do americans want to do americans should be paid for and that may be
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true but the reason why he didn't answer that way you can tell is because he was personally
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offended in the interview and he was being stubborn and proud now that is your 2016 trump
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that element has always been trump that's true that has not changed at all um trump has always
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been a arrogant prideful man yes he reaches these conclusions behind the scenes but he'll never
00:24:47.140
once he won't come back and admit he'll yeah he'll never he'll never he will double down
00:24:52.260
yep and that's the beauty when he's right he'll never let go it's what we loved about him but
00:24:56.880
when he's wrong he will never let go it's uh it's rough it's it's really rough i will say though
00:25:05.260
in that regard being like never coming back never admitting you know maybe behind the scenes you
00:25:10.620
back off but you can never publicly set the record straight in that regard um trump is like
00:25:16.940
every single pastor in america and if there's two groups of people that do not publicly apologize
00:25:23.160
even when they make a public mistake it's america's politicians and america's pastors
00:25:27.980
they're both arrogant all right let's go to our first commercial break let's do it and then we
00:25:34.260
will come that's the context and people are done with it the 50-year mortgage for the record uh
00:25:39.200
how did that come about well bill pulte pitched that to trump this is the story that we're hearing
00:25:43.240
and he showed trump an image of uh franklin roosevelt who pioneered the 30-year mortgage
00:25:47.540
next to trump and he put the 50-year mortgage yeah trump loved it in fact he loved it so much
00:25:52.820
10 minutes later he posted it because he's proud exactly isn't that crazy like he liked it being
00:26:00.040
he just liked the optic it said great presidents up top great president that that's what he loved
00:26:04.520
which even that is insane i like my son is named franklin every single time new people come to the
00:26:11.560
church you know and he's standing beside me they're like oh is that your son yeah what's his
00:26:15.100
name frankly i literally always assure people that it's not named after frank he's not named
00:26:19.500
after franklin roosevelt so like i'm over here i'm like franklin roosevelt named after francisco
00:26:23.880
yeah i'm like i'm like franklin no relation to franklin roosevelt whatsoever trump sees that
00:26:30.060
and he's like great president franklin roosevelt and me 30 was good a 50 could be better 50 could
00:26:36.820
be even better that said though if we get a portable mortgage that's actually so we could
00:26:42.020
talk about let's talk about real quick yeah to save face that one the administration is by the
00:26:46.040
way furious about the backlash we did a video of it on monday it's a terrible idea it's debt
00:26:51.080
slavery it's you'll own nothing and be happy tons of people hate it all it does is empower usury
00:26:55.400
the united states of usury we're already steeped in usury which is a sin but it is a policy to to
00:27:01.920
accomplish more usury you'll save two 250 bucks a month on your mortgage the centralized banks and
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i'll give you a guess who's behind them go ahead and you know do a little history early life check
00:27:12.520
they will make hundreds of thousands of dollars more in interest you save 200 bucks a month they
00:27:18.960
make hundreds of thousands of dollars more and that's just off of your loan and then that's
00:27:24.600
combined with everybody who's doing everybody's so no we are not going to support more usury go
00:27:31.320
it no so the administration go figure furious at the backlash conservatives didn't want it they're
00:27:38.060
like we gave you a 50-year mortgage you didn't want it and you weren't grateful you say thank
00:27:42.820
you yeah you say thank you have you said thank you jv vance came out 50-year mortgage uh we
00:27:47.720
promised 50 million deportations we gave you a 50 uh 50 years of debt slavery and usury have you
00:27:53.300
said thank you have you said thankful yet so to save face they floated the idea of a portable
00:27:57.740
mortgage so say you have a $300,000 home you have a $300,000 mortgage and you go and you purchase
00:28:03.320
another home well that $300,000 home you pay it off that pays off the mortgage but you keep the
00:28:08.940
same terms the same interest rate the same payments as the new home you purchased that is a
00:28:16.040
great idea that's a good I can't believe we didn't think of that on Monday but it's a great idea so
00:28:20.340
we will recognize and say that is actually a great idea to help increase home ownership keep people
00:28:25.280
collateral as people move they then have homes and that's why they can buy more that's why you
00:28:29.040
that said there is no amount of chimping in the world that can save maga at this point so maybe
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we get a portable mortgage out of it before the ship goes down and that'd be great right so the
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chimping you know there's there's still some purpose in that but the biggest thing that we
00:28:42.460
need to be doing is repositioning building and preparing uh because something is going to have
00:28:48.180
to follow maga um it is dying now and i think um it will be fully dead come 2028 i'll be honest um
00:28:56.920
if it's jd i think he gets slaughtered at at this point i think he gets crushed i actually do
00:29:05.320
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you said it the time to pivot is now yes guys to 2028 for president for governor for senate
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it really isn't that far away and it is enough time to actually find the guys for the guys to
00:33:01.640
put a campaign together and the guys to run you have to start thinking post mega you have to start
00:33:07.300
thinking um these are the issues that are going to be important and what you can do even if you're
00:33:11.460
not going to win so like running for president yeah if people if you're not a household name
00:33:15.740
right now let's be honest you don't have a chance that's right you're not going to discover yourself
00:33:19.620
no yeah would i take it sure uh can i get it no chance in hell it's like president think about
00:33:29.540
this kanye west like just about everybody would at least recognize his name what did he get three
00:33:36.980
percent something like that when he ran i think it was something like two two yeah it's a big deal
00:33:42.480
it is a big you must be really really known so there's no new face that's just going to come in
00:33:47.420
and sweep it yeah you'll probably have marco rubio he's likely to run for president
00:33:51.660
if not just to position for a vice president you have vance who christy gnome as would
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would potentially run marjorie taylor green yeah would potentially looks like she's starting to
00:34:02.620
make a play on an america first platform thomas massey has he said anything uh yeah he wouldn't
00:34:09.260
shock me desantis would he try again um i don't know i he wouldn't get it for sure and we like
00:34:16.860
de santis in many ways we do he he loves him israel he's just not that is one thing about
00:34:21.940
de santis he does um but he's very stiff and awkward uh here's an exciting uh development
00:34:26.760
james fishback for governor of florida he recently announced his candidacy ron de santis can't run
00:34:33.340
anymore in florida he's termed out right that's how it kind of works like the best states the
00:34:37.080
best governors uh it's like all right you've had a great three years now someone else has to run
00:34:42.060
that's what happened in virginia glenn youngkin uh termed out he's not the greatest but termed
00:34:46.480
out and virginia lost the governorship to the democrats right gavin newsom will probably be
00:34:51.440
governor of california if not president of the united states for like 80 years but santa's can't
00:34:56.860
run again in florida and the heir apparent with trump's endorsement gross is byron donalds
00:35:04.420
the guy is he seems like a nice guy he seems like a christian guy sure i'm sure uninspiring
00:35:12.180
to say the least yeah not just that but like i mean he he wants to keep import importing people
00:35:16.960
to america he's like it's it's all the old tropes of like we you know need no illegal immigration
00:35:22.460
but we need even more legal immigration he's he's terrible he's out of touch he doesn't get it and
00:35:28.100
he'll destroy the state yep but james fishbank has come out and he's really running on the platform
00:35:33.060
that's everything we're talking about yep it's nationalistic it's america first it's christian
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that is a huge element of it he wants to restore christian values ending the h1b visa program
00:35:44.700
these guys are actually appearing that's what's going to happen is as maga retreats as maga fades
00:35:50.700
out the good news is that actually paves the way for the people that probably are actually going to
00:35:55.480
do the real work all along the last 10 years believe it or not in many ways that could have
00:36:00.380
been the lobby the pre-game lobby the preparation the pre-season you can think in those terms for
00:36:06.160
the last 10 years uh we've actually finally now gotten down to what the fight is really about what
00:36:12.240
it means to be an american what does america need what does it mean to be um america first yeah
00:36:18.720
real quick cosmic treason uh in the chat he said i see your desantis objection and i raise you
00:36:23.940
he actually made it illegal for chinese nationals to own um to own land in florida he's more likely
00:36:32.580
to end foreign aid than trump i would agree i think he is more likely to end foreign aid i think
00:36:38.300
we can do better yep i think we can do better but uh but if you're saying on that issue he might be
00:36:43.300
better than trump no argument yep de santis he wants to abolish property tax in florida he's
00:36:48.540
actually taken a good bit of the the cudgel to uh the left in florida firing uh district attorneys
00:36:53.960
uh using basically the weight of the law to say you're leftist you're violent you're teaching
00:36:58.720
indoctrination in schools year out DeSantis in many ways has done a wonderful job in Florida
00:37:03.120
and hopefully so this means DeSantis has done great Florida is deep red James Fishbank now he's
00:37:10.200
a former hedge fund manager manager 30 years old brilliant guy super sharp these guys are coming
00:37:15.900
out of the woodwork you didn't know who I didn't know who James Fishbank was a week ago but these
00:37:20.200
guys exist and they've been working we just haven't met them yet exactly and the same way that like
00:37:24.560
there's a ton of people who don't know about us you know there are new people every day who are
00:37:28.140
finding our podcast and like who are these guys this is awesome i'm encouraged um i i think that
00:37:32.980
like in the same way that trump has objectively changed he's moved left he has he's not the same
00:37:40.040
trump he has moved left in the same way um a lot of young guys in the last i mean very recently i'm
00:37:46.280
not just saying the last 15 years or the last 20 no in the last two to four years a bunch of young
00:37:52.220
guys under the age of 40 have moved right. So it's like, so who are our future heroes? Who's
00:37:58.720
going to be our future president? Who are our guys? Our guys are being forged in the fire of
00:38:04.240
adversity right now. So I think we have a lot of our guys, but they're being made today. They'll
00:38:10.640
be revealed tomorrow and they'll be leading the way in the near future. We just can't see all of
00:38:16.780
them yet, but they are appearing day by day. And that's super encouraging to me. You could look at
00:38:21.220
as a black belt and MAGA is over 10 years a huge populist movement the whole world was watching
00:38:26.680
when Trump was elected in the UK everywhere like we can't believe this this is terrible
00:38:30.660
you have this incredible movement and really it's it's going to have about 10 years and you go look
00:38:35.960
at that and go man we've got no shot the left is always going to win they're always going to keep
00:38:41.220
turning things to the left but if you pan out and you look on the other side you can see they were
00:38:46.260
only just for many of us kind of actually the introduction trump introduced the ideas he put
00:38:51.440
them into the public consciousness that now the next generation is saying we're going to take them
00:38:55.740
and run with them yeah 2016 no h1bs right i like that trump was the precursor he was someone who
00:39:02.260
just he served to um activate to radicalize to uh to to spur people on trump was the catalyst
00:39:11.280
but he's not he's not going to be the the american caesar you know who crosses the rubicon and
00:39:17.280
changes you know gets us back causes us to return as the kids say like that's just not who he is so
00:39:22.880
trump for who he is and and more importantly who he was and what he's been praise god praise god
00:39:29.560
uh but maga moving forward no way and honestly um guys have said it nick fuentes said it but he's
00:39:36.720
not the only one other guys have said it and i think it's true um as bad as trump is now as low
00:39:42.520
as his approval ratings are now as much as i feel like he really has stepped left and compromised
00:39:46.880
uh based off of today versus where he was at in 2016 uh anyone else in maga would actually be
00:39:54.860
even worse if trump can't do it or won't do it there's no way that jd vance will you think jd
00:40:03.280
vance is going to well you know jd vance uh yeah trump has been a little bit of a disappointment
00:40:08.280
but you know he's still really great we just need someone slightly better than trump and when i look
00:40:13.120
at the lay of the land and think you know who's who's to the right of trump you know i think of
00:40:17.640
the guy who has done nothing and whose son's name is vivek and who married an indian and uh and only
00:40:26.200
came into prominence because of millions of dollars from peter thiel wait what what how so
00:40:32.780
you're saying trump the like the self-made billionaire couldn't do multiple times over he
00:40:37.940
like lost his net worth multiple times right rebuilt it and rebuilt incredible so that guy
00:40:43.920
american made he couldn't do it but jd vance made by the sodomite peter thiel he'll do it
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00:40:52.660
no way so that that's the point is that trump is the best of maggot right so we're not just saying
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00:40:59.460
hey Trump is he's not our guy not anymore we're not just saying that about Trump the point is to
00:41:05.220
say Trump is he was the best of MAGA and and MAGA overall has slid left but even in sliding left
00:41:12.560
and Trump sliding left with it Trump's still the best of MAGA which means MAGA has nothing to offer
00:41:18.400
when we say Trump can't do it we mean no one in MAGA can do it we need something else we need
00:41:26.140
something distinct we need something new not just make america great again but we need america first
00:41:32.040
we need make americans first again it's going to be a new coalition a new movement new leaders
00:41:38.140
new people inspiring new people taking the helm and they're going to be for the most part young
00:41:44.120
they're going to be young they're going to appear radical they're going to have intense charisma
00:41:50.800
and these are the guys that i'm looking for these are the guys that i'll vote for and if the gop
00:41:57.320
won't present any of these guys as a candidate to vote for then the the gop will not receive my vote
00:42:04.740
it's as simple as that it's as simple and that's where i think a lot of the criticism is coming
00:42:08.900
from i mean obviously they're the administration's actually just been bad on policy whether it's
00:42:13.880
h1b's or now the 50-year mortgage or not releasing the epstein files or i mean you can the list goes
00:42:18.640
on and on in terms of policy or not doing the mass deportations right the immigration exactly
00:42:23.360
but but i think the other the other side of the coin in terms of real criticism is that
00:42:28.260
they're actually in the way they've become an obstacle to exactly what you did just
00:42:31.960
just described joel which is actually continuing to move the party in the direction carrying the
00:42:37.380
momentum forward into 2028 and it's and if you have this maga coalition that is a strong coalition
00:42:43.960
that was a force in elections, if you're trying to copycat that and have a playbook, run that
00:42:50.660
exact same playbook in 2028, you are going to lose. We are calling that now. That's exactly
00:42:56.980
what we're saying. And so MAGA now has not only just been an object of criticism because they're
00:43:01.880
making bad decisions and governing poorly, but they've become an object because they're an
00:43:06.800
obstacle, they're a hurdle to actually what we're trying to accomplish now. And so that's something
00:43:13.040
that has to be understood and and uh there's the reality is is like we have to focus on 2028 we
00:43:19.840
are like to the point of turning away from maga already starting to get on the ground like running
00:43:24.660
for president you talked about popularity it's not just popularity these are massive these are
00:43:30.140
massive apparatuses right that that have to be organized and and formed years and years in
00:43:36.500
advance grassroots getting i mean lots of money involved state to state county to county all over
00:43:41.920
america these are massive organizations and and movements and they don't spring up overnight
00:43:47.020
you've got to be thinking about that now and here's the reality on the ground we're already
00:43:51.080
behind yeah yeah so if that was the white pill that wasn't as much of one but earlier
00:43:56.240
mag is dying something new is rising yep here's the warning don't fall for the rhetoric so this
00:44:02.240
was trump for example he said all of the good things jd vance you can even see i've i just
00:44:07.280
saw today someone calling him a kind of america first moment as he talked about appalachia and
00:44:12.480
all of the americans there that have been left behind which is awesome jd vance is also the
00:44:17.060
president of the united states don't settle for someone just repeating the words this is what
00:44:21.200
happens with a movement right uh it grows people don't like it then it becomes popular and people
00:44:26.340
go and they adopt the language and they steal from it that is going to happen with america first
00:44:31.480
yeah but all you need to do all right let's go ahead and take a look at the tail of the tape
00:44:35.720
correct brian donalds for instance uh running for governor in florida mr pro h1b he's actually
00:44:41.360
come out because of james fishbang putting pressure on him he's like well i'm actually
00:44:45.220
in favor of ending it well he was in congress for i think four years never authored a bill
00:44:49.800
and never did anything to move anywhere close towards ending the program now some guys truly
00:44:54.840
they don't have a record in public office you're gonna have to at some level take them at their
00:44:58.740
word okay you're promising to do this uh you seem to be upstanding in these areas successful in these
00:45:03.200
areas i'm going to have to trust you but other guys that have been in office before they're
00:45:07.540
going to they're going to stick their finger in the wind hmm mag is not where it is anymore
00:45:11.340
i want to win an election i'm an america first patriot right well hang on i can look at where
00:45:16.460
you voted here you voted here you voted here oh jd vance like he's probably going to adopt that
00:45:20.600
language he'll probably cool it a little bit on the israel rhetoric he'll use the america first
00:45:24.440
language but when he runs in 2027 it is up to you to hold them accountable and say you were vice
00:45:30.600
president for three years what did you do for us show me on paper yeah who was prosecuted what
00:45:38.220
leftists were thrown in prison what programs did you pilot you can't show any of them and and you're
00:45:43.580
you're the america first guy no you're not but you had your chance and and here's going to be the
00:45:48.440
the interesting litmus test i think there's two i think in in terms of really like are you really
00:45:53.520
willing to break because even when it's like i can look at your record look i'll give some grace
00:45:57.840
and some charity here like perhaps you can change over 10 years in terms of what coming through the
00:46:03.340
seeing through the fog seeing the forest through the trees right but but the litmus test will be
00:46:08.040
what's your stance on israel are you willing to criticize israel or not and the second is are you
00:46:13.540
willing to break with trump so that's a big one if you remember in the gop primary one of the i mean
00:46:18.920
you had so many candidates trump wasn't even showing up to the debates and the reality was
00:46:22.500
he was always going to win. He was a shoo-in. And the case and point of that fact was that no one
00:46:28.040
would criticize him. No one would criticize him because they knew he is the standard bearer. Now
00:46:33.260
the question will become in 2028, who's willing to break with Trump? Who's willing to leave him
00:46:38.980
behind and say, you know what? Actually, he was wrong on that issue. He was wrong on that. And
00:46:44.360
for the folks in his administration, so many of which we're going to see in that 2028 primary,
00:46:49.440
that's going to be a big litmus test no you're right I tweeted that out actually this morning
00:46:54.600
like this almost I don't know 7 30 or 8 o'clock I just dropped the girls off at their Christian
00:47:01.380
school and I said it's long past time to admit that Donald Trump is not our guy he was merely
00:47:07.440
the precursor to another MAGA is dead America first is ascendant this is the new litmus test
00:47:14.720
if anyone refuses to say this they're not on the team and what i mean by that is the same thing you
00:47:20.680
just said antonio when i say this is the new litmus test i don't mean just say america first
00:47:26.000
and define it as americans first putting americans first but i mean say the whole thing the the whole
00:47:33.280
tweet that i just put out which is uh the second half is america first uh the first half is maga
00:47:40.300
ain't it right maga ain't it and um and so as you're looking to new candidates you need to you
00:47:45.440
need to be able to see who is willing um to i you can be shrewd you can be strategic i understand
00:47:51.480
how politicians work i i get that uh but if if the rubber meets the road if it comes down to it
00:47:57.740
who's willing to uh to give up a a trump endorsement yep to stand on america first principles
00:48:04.740
that's your guy and you don't have to be rude about it if you're a politician you're listening
00:48:08.880
to this now, you're running for office. Be shrewd. You don't have to come out if you're
00:48:12.180
running for local mayor. I denounce Donald Trump. Like, that's silly. But you can say,
00:48:16.420
hey, he did a lot of good, but these policies have had an expiration point. I don't think he's
00:48:20.700
the future. There's tactical ways to go about it. But like all things with courage, it'll be
00:48:25.060
costly up front. There are people that won't win the election because they stand up and they say,
00:48:28.780
no, actually, this type of MAGA, propositional nationhood, we're done with it. And they might
00:48:34.100
early on lose some elections lose friendships lose endorsements but uh we've been following
00:48:39.140
this for about two years now this is the direction things are headed so the early courage now i'm
00:48:44.840
telling you guys it's going to pay off it's going to pay off in 2028 much less 2030 midterms yeah
00:48:52.220
2032 i think by 2028 i'm i'm gonna be praying we're gonna be working we're gonna be doing
00:48:57.960
everything we can but if i had to predict i'm going to say we're in trouble um 2028 but i do
00:49:05.240
believe by the grace of god 2030 midterms and 2032 um i think you will see maga completely replaced
00:49:14.140
america first completely ascendant and uh some really good candidates the only question is
00:49:20.860
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we're back all right we are back all right so this comment has come up tons in the chat not
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super chats but people just saying even even some of them in good faith you know good friends
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they're picking on us like this is so funny these guys are sitting here and they think
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there are political solutions to a nation that's 30 foreigners that has been invaded at our border
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that has no sense of identity there are always political solutions right well first of all for
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one we're not idiots and we know history i think of the meme where the guy says you know look
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violence is never the answer he's like the answer is action he picks up a history book
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the answer is uh uh uh uh like yeah we recognize that history is replete with tons of different
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movements that have happened that's still political for one that's still political
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for two we're aware of history i've used this illustration because people say that a lot guys
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in our church have said that you know like you're not doing anything you're screaming into the void
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you're really going to vote for this guy and this guy and for one we're going to stop the pity votes
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He represents America more than he represents Texas.
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No, you mean he represents Israel more than he represents Texas.
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So all that aside, though, when a movement gets, when our movement gains enough speed,
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enough people, enough voices, and enough influence, there actually isn't going to be any stopping
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Yes, for voting, but practically speaking, if you had 20 million men, loved Christ, honored
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him, they were convicted of the need to take back our country, they saw the way to do it,
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It doesn't really matter if they're outnumbered or whatever it would be.
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It's totally possible when you have the amount of people, and I don't think the amount of
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A small, convicted minority leading the way for the rest.
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Think of a plane going to take off of a runway, and the runway itself is disintegrating.
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The plane can take off if you have enough distance.
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That plane, as it gets enough speed, enough momentum, enough propulsion, it will take
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So one of the reasons we put all this effort into voting and revolve behind the scenes
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politically is to give enough runway for this movement to grow, for people to wake up, to
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see what they've lost and say, for one, Christ is the answer.
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We need Christ. And two, here's what we need to do about it. So we're assembling the runway.
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We're getting people stuffed into the plane. You guys, hopefully, you're helping to man the
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engines. If we have enough runway, we will take off. That's why we're involved in politics. Not
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because we're going to vote our way out of this. Not because, well, if we just vote even harder
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and just keep doing the right thing in 25 years, we'll be good. No, we'll probably have rough years
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ahead of us. But if we can survive long enough, I think we're going to win. Yeah, I think so too.
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but there are absolutely political solutions with Christ.
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So it's either Christ or political solutions.
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right? We must make America Christian again, right? Macca. We've got to make it Christian again.
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Otherwise, you know, you have a good life here on earth, temporally like a vapor, and then you,
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you know, you die and go to hell. That's not loving anyone. And so it's not less than Christ,
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but it's not Christ or political solutions. Because if it's just Christ, then sure,
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people will go to heaven, and that's what matters most. That's most important.
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but life on earth will be terrible there are plenty of christians in north korea who die and
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go to heaven but their life in north korea is really really rough and we would like to avoid
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that if possible so there is this is what i think people miss there is a very real category of
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america being christian but still being a terrible place to live so it's it can't just be christ it
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has to be christ all of christ for all of life it has to be christ applied it has to be theology
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applied and and so all we're arguing we're not arguing hey political solutions um other than
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christ instead of christ no we're saying it's got to be christ and political solutions it can't just
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be you know what uh we're going to have more national days of prayer and also more h1b visas
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no no no it's got to be more prayer more conversion more preaching and also more deportations also
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not doing 50-year mortgages also uh getting out of the national debt like it it is it's both it's
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both that's all we're saying okay uh let's go to here's a 10th generation american s o a sons of
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the american revolution all right all right he gave us five dollars we appreciate that he said
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steps to guide fam and community in growing nat uh nat ethnic national ethnic pride without
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seeming to overshadow our identity in christ thanks for all you do um thank you we appreciate
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that so again he's asking what are some steps to guide people into uh growing a sense of national
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slash ethnic pride uh but without ultimately abandoning our christian principles our our
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chief identity highest identity being in christ what do you guys say um i don't know i'll be
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honest, I don't know that I've met the person, they're probably out there, that at this point
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in time in these United States, their identity as an American is truly overshadowing them,
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their identity as a Christian. And I say that to say, to whatever degree you want to emphasize
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that, which is good and right, I do think it would be hard in our time to actually succeed in like
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truly getting to the point where it's like, this guy loves America more than he loves Jesus. It's
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possible, it could happen, but we have been so deficient in that, in our natural affection,
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in our pride. Remember when it comes to the nation and patriotism. Patriotism is rooted in
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the word father. You're having pride in your fathers and what they did, and we've had such
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a deficiency of it that I would struggle to imagine. Say you put the American flag out back,
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and it's Memorial Day, and it's July 4th, and you're telling stories, and the bedtime stories
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you read at night. This is actually what I do with my son. I'm reading them from an American
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folklore book. It's Paul Bunyan, and it's George Washington, and it's Robert E. Lee. I would find
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of difficult to find someone who's, they've infused their life with a lot of these things,
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and they're still a Christian, that actually has gotten to the point of sinful idolatry. So I would
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say take those things as much as you can. What flag do we fly? The American flag. Maybe it's the
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Texas flag, if you live in Texas, for example. So pride in your nation, pride in your state. It's
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the stories you tell. It's the songs that you sing. It's the people you look up to. There's a dear
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family in our church, and they just have quotes from Robert E. Lee on the wall as a remembrance of,
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here's a great incredible American who did incredible things and I want my sons and daughters
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when they think of great men to think of him and the encouragements that he had um so doing that
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I agree in a nutshell I think what Wes is saying he's absolutely right is that um we are much
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further off the rails than people are willing to admit right um like you just have to recognize
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that virtually every single Christian in the west is a full-blown gnostic they really are by by any
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theological standard, virtually any theologian from 100 years or older, if they were to come
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and arrive and visit today, they'd say, oh my goodness, you guys, you're not even orthodox
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anymore. You are Gnostics. You have come to the place that natural affections, the temporal,
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the earthly life, the physical is of not less account than the spiritual, but of no account.
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you have embraced the Gnostic heresy, that the body is, you know, the flesh is simply just a prison,
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that it's something to be despised, and your spirit, your soul is just, you know, captured,
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subdued within this prison of the flesh, and it's good to just scourge yourself and to, you know,
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to be accelerationist, to work towards the destruction of your nation, the destruction
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of your flesh, the breakdown of marriages. You're Gnostics, and they would arrive at this
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because of what christians have said for decades and decades and decades i mean think of the gospel
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coalition virtually every single article for the last 20 years has been you love your family well
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sounds a bit like idolatry you love your country sounds a bit like idolatry you love anything
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natural anything physical anything temporal um never is that spoken of positively it's always
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uh simply pushed back against as though um you're an idolater and so it's just i i guess the answer
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is just um that danger that concern that 10th generation american soar brought up um is we're
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just so far from overcompensating in the other direction that um that's not even i i take this
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in the same here's another example um the guys are like well we're just you know i'm um i believe
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in male headship but i'm just really concerned about toxic um patriarchy i'm i'm afraid about
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uh i'm worried i'm just concerned about hyper patriarchy guys um we are immersed in feminism
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we are nowhere near hyper patriarchy we're not even close if there even is such a thing
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um and so the idea well i'm worried about hyper nationalism i'm worried about um idolatrous
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patriotism there's i think that those actually could be things and have been things in the past
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we have been nowhere close we have been on the full opposite end of the spectrum for a century
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so we're just uh i i don't know like uh yeah come come back come see me in 100 years right
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and and we'll see if maybe it's a concern worth talking about we're nowhere close right now yep
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and they were just asking for steps and so like i said earlier uh adorning everyday life with
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things that call to mind that celebrate that speak highly of your heritage without fear of i don't
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want to overshadow you know my relationship to christ yeah and i'm saying that not because i
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know this is our guy yeah 10th generation american he's our guy great guy um one of the best guys i
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know him great guy the best guy um i know his swing um he's great guy uh so i know he's you
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know he's on our side i'm saying that um as an answer to equip him um because i i felt like in
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the question that you know part of what he's trying to get at is um he's heard that objection
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himself exactly equip me with some rhetoric when i get this objection from you know grandma or from
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you know this person or that person and that's that's my suggestion that's my recommendation is
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that you tell them hey look at the big picture pan out get the 30 000 foot view we are all the
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way on the other end of the spectrum and so when you're there wholesale as a country uh worrying
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about the opposite air that you're not even close to is silly yeah and i would just say i would just
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add that what i think you alluded to this west but like what's wonderful about being an american i
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think specifically is that the two things your your ethnic and national identity aren't aren't
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divorced from christ actually so when you think about adorning your life with uh you know songs
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it's actually, I think you can have an emphasis
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And so, I mean, to the extent that you can tailor it
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even within your national identity and ethnic identity
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to the things that the Christian faith has done through them,
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you're bringing those together exactly i love it okay this dude rocks that's the next one five
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dollars we appreciate it um this guy this guy's racking up like i kid you not 10 super chats a
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live stream he probably has a second job like he's saying in the last commercial break he was like
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are you this dude dude rocks are you sitting in these super chats um no we appreciate you thank
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you he said uh why won't trump as an elderly lame duck president right he's saying like the dude is
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80 something years old he won't have the house so he can't pass one again he's yeah exactly he's
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about to lose the house um so he's got nothing to lose is what he's saying so why would he a lame
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elderly lame duck president refuse to just turn on his owners and foreign interests and do his
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own thing and then he suggests he said is it contracts blackmail pride to which i would
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respond by saying i think all the above i think all the that's our whole question why what does
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you owe the Adelsons you can't give people money and say you have to sign in the dotted line you'll
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do this what are they gonna do you can turn on them yeah unless unless there really is like
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something that people could expose yeah I I think I think that's certainly on the table I I I think
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there's a you know you can think about it from the political uh sort of view first and say look at
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the end of the day he wants to be a good president he cares about his legacy as all men would in that
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situation and if you turn on your donors as you turn on the people who got you in office
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your your life's going to be hell you're not going to get anything accomplished day to day
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you're going to be fighting you're going to get you know smeared and that's not fun i and trump
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knows that better than anyone and so i think there's an element of just the political reality
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being like look i want to i want to go along to get along i think the there's certainly the the
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personal element as well in terms of just pride i i don't think we can divorce the things trump does
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from personal conviction like we we disagree with him but i think i think to be charitable he
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actually does believe things that that we disagree with and he he has conviction about them and he
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wants to stand by them and wants to see them come to fruition and so i i think his highest conviction
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is honestly it's it's surrounding economic policies yeah i think his highest conviction is like the
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tariffs and things like that and for the record i think that actually had some america first spirit
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behind it that was honestly one in his second best area business exactly so like he's a 1990s
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liberal new york democrat who was and is a very savvy businessman so i think that's really his
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his highest conviction i mean we are talking about the guy at the end of the day and i voted for him
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so i'm not i'm not trying to give people a hard time but we are talking about the guy who is what
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on his third marriage serial adulterer uh posed you know for pictures with hugh hefner is arguably
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on the epstein list you know all those kinds of things uh we're talking about that guy um so the
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if we think that his ideology that his convictions are going to be in a moral arena then i i think
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we're just we're being naive and we're expecting we're expecting something from a guy who's just
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not that guy uh but he has had i think if trump has so one i think he is very much you know what
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do the people like i love people who love me i hate people who hate me you know like i think
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he's guided a lot by the masses and what the mass is saying wanting to be liked um and other than
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that in terms of does he have any convictions of his own i think most of them are in regards to
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economic business policies and i think in his first term there were also were some genuine
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convictions when it came to foreign affairs um that's about it and the reason why that made him
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so look and made otherwise liberal exactly on the on the culture war on the moral issues liberal
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and america first on some of the economic policies and those kinds of things um and the reality is
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that uh that things were so so so so bad for decades and decades and decades with you know
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the gop that um it was just such a low bar that trump looked amazing by comparison he really he
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really did so all right uh let's let's skip down so this is jesse esp he gave us 300 super chat
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take note of that guys that's a new bar everybody shooting for 300 new high score new high score
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man no we appreciate it very generous very kind he said when an extended family member is actively
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sinning and it is endorsed by the rest of the family for the sake of family unity parentheses
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or at least they tell me uh there's nothing that they can do close parentheses is it wrong to not
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want to participate in the thanksgiving supper when you have to pretend for the sake of family
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that you have a unity that's really not there i don't know uh man i don't know i've i've done
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many many many counselings with people who have struggled with you know in-laws and outlaws and
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all those kinds of things that they've come to uh traditional biblical convictions and you know
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their family is christian and they're either regenerate but just you're kind of modern christian
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today which isn't great or they're you know christian in name only but in either case
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they're normie christians and uh so this is one first thing i would say is you're not alone this
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is uh very common uh pretty much everybody i feel like every young you know traditional guy who's
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patriarchal who's a nationalist who's you know who's reformed in his convictions and this that
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and the other, has some element of this struggle, whether it's with his mother-in-law or whether
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it's with his father or whether it's with a brother. So this is very, very common.
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My best advice is to strive to be at peace with all men as so far as it depends on you. As
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the scripture says, family is a different category. I would remind you of that. Family is
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a different category right so if it's not family or extended family then uh yeah you're not really
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under any obligation to uh to pretend um you know as though there's peace peace when there is no
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peace but when it comes to family uh it's just family is weighty family is significant it's not
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trivial it's not a small thing and so uh family really is worth um bearing love bears all things
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hopes all things um you only have one family and i understand people be like well my local church
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is my family or me and the boys or you know i'm in the group chat you know we we say gm every
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single morning um those things are awesome they're awesome it's not family family you only get one
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family and it matters it matters even if it's hard um we should not be um we should not be casting
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that off lightly and here's the deal you sit thanksgiving out that's not small you sit out
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thanksgiving and uh and you i mean the message that you're that's a big strong message you've
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just you've just given two middle fingers to the family um and uh that's a really big deal i had
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one other thing because i've been praying about this thinking about this myself um you have an
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obligation to honor thy father and mother um and that's on both sides so that that would also apply
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to your your father-in-law and mother-in-law um so you have an obligation for your parents and
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your wife's parents to show honor. You have that command of honor and respect. There is no such
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command when it comes to siblings. So your brothers and sisters or your brothers-in-law
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and your sisters-in-law, you do not have to respect them. There's only two different categories
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of a biblically mandated respect when it comes to people. One is by virtue of their person. The
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other is by virtue of their position. Now, ideally, you know, you're respecting the person who is
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respectable in both regards, meaning position, it's someone who is in a position of authority,
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like a father or a mother or the emperor, the king, a civil magistrate or a pastor or a teacher,
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right? Somebody in a position of authority. So there are people who are not respectable in terms
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of their person. They don't have character. They don't have virtue. They're not a respectable
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person but they are in a position that mandates respect and the bible tells us it commands us
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that we respect them regardless by virtue of their position even if their person is not
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respectable that said if someone has no authority they're not a father or a mother or a civil
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magistrate or a teacher or a pastor or anything like that they're a pauper they're a peasant
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they're on the bottom of the totem pole in terms of their their position their status in society
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but they're virtuous, they're godly, they're Christian, they're wise, then that person actually
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is still worthy of respect because they're respectable by virtue of their person. Do you
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see what I'm saying? So when it comes to your brothers and sisters, right, parents and in-laws,
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when it comes to parents-in-law, so your parents and your wife's parents, if they're not respectable,
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virtuous, wise, godly, courageous, these kinds of things, by virtue of their person,
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you still must show honor to them or god's not going to bless you because their position aside
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from their person you would hope that in their person they'd be respectable but even if they're
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not by position alone they mandate respect god commands you to it when it comes though to your
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siblings right so not mother and father-in-law and mother and father but now we're talking about
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brothers and sisters-in-law and brothers and sisters they do not have biblically speaking
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any mandated respect owed to them by virtue of their position so then it only falls on their
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person and if in their person they're a libtard then you do not you are not obligated to show them
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any respect at all they're family and so you should have love love bears all things so you
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can have patience you can have hope you can have kindness but but you at the same time and you don't
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I'm not saying advocating for saying this out loud, but privately you can just know between you
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and your wife, your immediate family and the Lord. Um, yeah, when it comes to my brother or when it
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comes to my sister-in-law or when it comes to this person or that person, um, they're not in a
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position that requires respect and in their person, they do not have anything outstanding
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in their character that mandates respect. And so you can know privately, I don't have any respect
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for them at all. But I still love them. So I love them, but I don't respect them. And so then what
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does love obligate? I think love obligates patience. It obligates kindness. It obligates
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long-suffering, bearing all things. But love does not obligate. In fact, love prohibits flattery,
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right? Saying things that you would say to someone who is respectable, to a person who's not
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respectable is a lie. It's a form of flattery, which is a sin. So in love, you can exercise
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kindness and patience, but not respect. Respect is a separate category. Respect must be earned.
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We freely love because we're freely loved by God. While we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
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But respect is a separate category. And so I would say with the family, you got to respect mom and
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dad. You got to respect mom-in-law, dad-in-law. And if you got a problem with one of your brothers,
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one of your sisters, brother-in-law, sister-in-law, I would strongly encourage you, one, to love them,
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but then also to love them even more by proxy of honoring mom and dad. Because mom and dad
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are going to be really really hurt if you don't go to thanksgiving dinner yeah and so you're not
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doing it for your libtard brother you know your feminist sister-in-law or your whatever you're
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doing it for mom and dad i'm going to honor mom and dad i'm going to show up i'm going to be like
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the meme with the kid who's holding in the fart you know the veins busting over his head you know
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as they're talking about something that's so stupid and you know it's stupid and you could
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just obliterate them right there with facts and logic but you don't because you're going to honor
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your your father your mother your father-in-law your mother-in-law and so you're going to show
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in love not respect respect to them but in love you're going to bear all things and show kindness
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and patience to the siblings well said yeah i i just to add to that or i mean i guess package it
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differently is is to say um i don't think it's a it's not pretend unity when you show up to a
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thanksgiving with family members that you disagree with that's not uh i think there's real unity
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there outside of the specific uh and i think this is what you were basically describing is there's
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actual unity that's to be had and i would just say on the topics or the specific lifestyle or
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whatever it is don't feign unity in those in that in that environment right be kind be charitable
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but don't pretend like you agree with it in in the presence of the things right there's a way to
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both be present and say, I love you to your point and show unity in the familial sense.
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A unity of presence, but not unity on a particular point that you know is wrong.
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Right. And then the specific case, right? He says, it sounds like they've endorsed the
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act of sinning from this person for the sake of family unity, which praise God for that,
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that they at least value family unity. Now your job is to actually go into that atmosphere and
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say look i value it too and i can i can disagree with it and so hopefully by that you actually can
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convict the the other person right showing unity despite disagreement exactly instead of a fake
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unity by feigning agreement that's that's a really good point um but just your your prep that is
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unity like people say well we want unity but what they're demanding is affirmation they're demanding
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that you agree even when they're blatantly wrong um you don't actually have to agree to have real
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genuine that doesn't make it a fake love or a fake unity um love bears all things right there
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what's implied is it bears a lot of retardation a lot of frustrating objectively wrong things being
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bared with real love wrong things being bared with real love or i think of elsewhere in the scripture
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was um love covers an offense there really is an offense and so it's like oh well you're just
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feigning unity by showing up you know even though there's this offense and you're not talking about
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it. No, one of the options with offenses, you have two options as a Christian. One is to go to your
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brother with the offense. The other though is to cover an offense. You actually don't have to go,
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believe it or not, crazy, big if true. Okay, this is big if true. You actually don't have to go to
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your brother with every single offense. You actually have a second option available, which
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is you can let love cover an offense. But here's the deal. If you choose that second option and you
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let love cover the offense. You actually have to truly let love cover the offense. And what I mean
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by that is you can't still just bury the offense, but allow the offense to continue living on.
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Love covering the offense means I'm letting go of the offense. I am not offended. I'm no longer
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offended. They did something that's offensive, but I truly, without even bringing it up,
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I have freely forgiven them. I'm overlooking it. I'm not counting against them. Love keeps
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no records are wronged um so that is like so then how do i go in with my family with certain members
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that i profoundly disagree with on x y and z and sing kumbaya and have you know a merry christmas
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how do i do that uh well the way that you do that is you pick your battles very few and far between
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very selectively to actually bring up an offense in the most charitable way possible you do that
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with probably a ratio of one in 10. The other nine, you don't bring the offense, you cover it.
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And when I say cover it, I don't mean hide it, bury it, sequester it. I mean, you actually
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let it go. You cover the offense to where there is no more offense, which means what do I need?
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Well, I need a better family. No, what you need is to be a better man. More patience. God make me
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more patient, more gracious, more kind. Now, I'm not saying that this is the same strategy that you
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employ with every relationship you have. No, I think, you know, after careful consideration
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with the vast majority of your relationships, you should become worse. You should bring the
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offense. You should not tolerate compromising this, that, and the other. But I'm telling you,
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family is. We're fooling ourselves if we don't say this. Family is a unique category. It is a
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unique category. And what I've realized, honestly, it's kind of weird, but as I'm embracing more of
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what we're talking about on this episode, America first, a return to natural affections,
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not being spiritual Gnostics, recognizing that the temporal and these familial bonds actually
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are significant that they matter uh one of the things that i've had to embrace is this because
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there was a time you know if you talked to me 10 years ago i would have said the family of god is
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my family you know and the the local church is all i need my here here are my brothers and sisters
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you know uh these people who um who hold to the five solos you know and uh and you know my my
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actual family because uh we had one conversation for 15 minutes a year and a half ago and uh and
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it was questionable whether or not they were a calvinist and so you know what i they may be
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related to me by blood but they mean nothing the people of god are like you just have to understand
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you're you're a lib foolish you want it you want to be a real paleo conservative real america first
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it means going to thanksgiving and being miserable for the glory of god that's part of what it means
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so suck it up and uh be a man and go in there smile honor your father and your mother your
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father-in-law your mother-in-law tolerate some of the siblings and do it as kindly as you can
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okay next inevitable kerfuffle $20 super chat thank you sir i'm guessing sir it's a picture
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of larry from veggie tale that's got to be one of our guys that's old school he said this uh
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Thanks for endorsing James Fishback for Florida governor.
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The Orange County GOP, led by a woman, big shocker,
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recently hosted a Trump-supporting Muslim speaker.
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True America First candidates can have a bright future
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keep defaming the globo homo tards the uh the gay race communist amen yes and amen a thousand
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times danny boy appreciate your generosity thank you so much all right next one and tonu yeah to
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the chicken sent five dollars thanks for that and says uh desantis counter made it illegal for
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florida to not buy israel junk bonds made us floridians slaves making us floridians slaves
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say it again one more time what say it one more time uh uh de santis counter so countering what
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against being uh countering not us i don't think but uh cosmic treason that we read criticism which
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just for the record cosmic treason long time supporter we have some disagreements great guy
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though i want to respect him go ahead but they're saying uh de santis made it illegal for florida
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uh to not buy israel junk bonds which were which makes floridian slaves so i think okay so this is
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actually a counter not this is a counter to the counter to the counter this is a counter to us
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in agreement with cosmic trees and saying here's another positive point no negative so so desantis
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uh isn't allowing foreign investment in the state of florida i think that was the point yep uh they're
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saying well but he is also making illegal for to not buy israel bonds so i think that is you have
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to buy you have to buy it not illegal it was a double negative illegal to not buy yeah okay
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okay i gave a disclaimer desantis there is an issue that keeps him from being perfect you said
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it you're right and that is that man loves him he loves him some israel uh not necessarily like
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tel aviv ted level but not quite but close it's up there and a lot of american jews do live in
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florida it's new york florida and i think one other place he's got a lot of them in south
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ben shapiro lives in florida my goodness does he or is it tennessee with no no no no he went
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he wouldn't be down there with the plebeians no exactly yeah when he left california they all
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left california and he was like hey i want the team over here in tennessee yep but i'm living
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in florida by myself i'm living with the boys i think he lives in uh near or in boca raton which
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is a very predominantly jewish hey that's where elijah schaefer lives maybe they can be friends
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maybe yeah yeah yeah all right i'll do the next one here so renee dean sent uh four dollars and
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99 it's five dollars and says repeal the 19th exclamation mark uh from a wife who got this
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approved by her husband and has a pie in the oven what a champ so true goodness gracious a woman
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who fears the lord is to be praised god bless you uh the other paul he gave us five dollars uh he's
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a great friend we've had him on the stream a couple times now great guy uh he said when is the nick
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collab uh nick who who's who's nick saint nicholas uh i don't know old saint nick um going through
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all the nicks here uh so he's talking about when are you going to do a collab with nick fuentes
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he's been praising you uh heaps he said so nick fuentes on his live stream has been giving you
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shout outs joel um when are you going to do a collab and i have an answer the answer is stay
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tuned all right next garrett mazel he gave us five dollars and he said how far does first timothy
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chapter two go for women's apparel right not braided hair those kinds of things uh women's
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apparel regarding jewelry my young girl is wanting her ears pierced this is a good question and i
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want to steward her correctly great question that's a godly father he loves his girl he's probably
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just for the record defending him he's probably inclined his little girl wants earrings he
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probably wants to get her earrings you know make his little girl happy but at the same time she's
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a little girl right her chief you know premier occupation right now should be butterflies it
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should be rainbows it should be unicorns you know it's those kinds of things and uh and we don't
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want to make our little girls uh look like grown women too soon and so that that is um the fact
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that he's even mindful of that is a good thing and that being mindful of of that ditch on one
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side does not even begin to imply or necessitate that he doesn't have the father's heart who wants
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to make his little girl smile um great question worded really well um also so i i've you know
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gone through the gambit you know on this particular issue i i'm i'm a girl dad i've got one son
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four daughters um which is like who radicalized you did you not hear me i said i have four
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daughters with each one i became more of a far-right extremist um and i have to for their
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well-being um so with this um my wife and i you know we we've kind of thought and rethought you
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know these kinds of things um i think part of it depends on what the earrings are so i don't think
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it's a pass fail system i guess is what i'm getting i don't think it's just like um no ear
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piercings um until they're 12 or until until they're 14 or until they're 16 or 18 um i think
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a big part of it is just it's it's everything combined it's it's the um it's the the full
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comprehensive sum um so it's like is it gaudy earrings and full makeup and mascara and lipstick
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and you know and uh shoes and all like um is it is it the whole nine yards to where your seven
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year old is is very just visibly trying to to present herself as though she's an 18 year old
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woman then then you need to scale back she's not an 18 year old woman um but i think you know it's
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weighing one thing against another so if it's hey we're not you know we're not going to do makeup
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at six years old okay but um i you know some tasteful earrings you know for christmas we're
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going to get our ears pierced and do some you know some kid childlike earrings um i i don't
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think there's anything i don't think that first sympathy chapter two is saying that that's a sin
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that's my position that's all right next reformed farmer sent five dollars uh he said this there's
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a couple super chats nate is that a two-parter okay so five dollars first of all thank you
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i said this hey guys i have become convinced of nations and nationalities by reading dr
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stephen wolf's book many such cases the reformers and the series you did would me a white reformed
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canadian be accepted in a community like ogden or ridge runner yes work 60 to 90 hours a week
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and make 100 000 a year still can't buy a house absolutely he would be accepted of course he would
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um here's the deal like it's like well wait a second that seems like a contradiction that's
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you know like isn't that hypocritical uh no uh for my friends anything for my enemies the law
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no it's it's not a contradiction um i love america i want america to succeed so uh public
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facing at the the corporate hole no more immigration period period at a local level
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uh this guy of european descent in canada who fears the lord and is paleo conservative and
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speaks english and shares 99 of all of our traditions who wants to come over here and be
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a part of our local church and be generous uh yeah yeah he can come well but what about the
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christian in uganda no he can't come wait well that that that's not fair um it's not about
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fairness we have a country to save we have a country to save one person here's the deal
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um not every country is not all cultures are equal not all countries are equal um not all
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religions are equal not all peoples are equal there are distinctions distinctions necessarily
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create disparities. And because of that, you are allowed to be selective. Now, if in your
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selectivity, you've gone to the point where you're like, well, I hate anybody in the world who's not
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Western, you know, or I hate anybody in the world who's not white. Well, then that, I think that's
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hateful. That's, that's not good. That's not a good impulse. I don't believe that's Christian.
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I think that's wrong. An unjustified, without cause, without basis, just raw, unjustified
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hatred for an entire people based off of whatever, their culture, their race, their religion,
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then yeah, I think you need to repent. But here's the deal. You can be selective about who enters
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your country without hating those who you don't allow to enter. And it's just a fact.
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there are peoples multiple different peoples cultures religions races in the world some are
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more compatible with america some are less compatible with america we know this right
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this came up with the south africa thing remember that i remember getting some pushback when 49
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it was like 49 south africa thousand no 49 that's a full number right less than 50 south african
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people waving american flags most of them uh protestant christians and white european descent
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came over to america as refugees and we're like yeah we'll take them and we said it publicly we'll
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take them and we're glad that they're here and people that's hypocritical if you take 49 white
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christian conservative south africans then you must take 49 million haitians no no that's not
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a contradiction that's just logic there are some cultures some peoples some religions that are more
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compatible with ours right catholic for instance i believe that america is a protestant nation it's
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certainly our heritage. And I think still to this day, it is more Protestant than Catholic.
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So will you take Catholics? Well, are they conservative? Are they compatible with European
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descent and virtue and heritage? And then, okay, I think that we can take some of those and say,
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well, why Catholic but not the Muslim? Because Catholicism is more compatible.
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But the Catholic Pope is an antichrist. Aren't you reformed? I'm reformed. I'm aware of the
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confessions. But are you really going to sit here and tell me that Catholics are less compatible
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with Protestants than Muslims or Jews? That's just stupid, guys. When your convictions become just
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raw ideology that defies logic and common sense, then you are embarrassing yourself.
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You need to grow up. You do. You need to grow up. Muslims are less compatible with America
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than Catholics. And if you're going to sit here and tell me, well, you know what? Catholics,
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I guess they're compatible. Muslims definitely aren't compatible, but Jews are also compatible.
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If anything, would be further than the Muslim category.
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Muslim, Jesus Christ, not Son of God, but an esteemed prophet.
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That is the tenets of Judaism, the tenets of Islam, the tenets of Roman Catholicism.
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So on the religion level, some religions are more compatible.
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With a Protestant in America, some are less.
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On the race level, some peoples are more compatible, some are less.
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On the cultural level, political level, every single level, you have a sliding scale.
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More compatible, less compatible, which means you're allowed to be selective and there is
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And anybody who says there is a contradiction is just trying to set a trap to have a gotcha
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moment because in their heart of hearts, what they really want to do, what they really want
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to do is destroy your country with infinity immigration and replace Christians and replace
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You can just say, I know what you're doing.
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you hate white people and you hate christians and i don't have to play yes i'll take this person i
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won't take this person i don't care i don't care i know my conscience before the lord is clear
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there's no hate in my heart i just want to have a country that is reminiscent that is that is in
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line with the founding of this country i want america to be america and that is not sin it's
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not sin you don't have to apologize for that young white christian male you do not have to
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apologize for that it does not make you a racist it does not make you hateful it's perfectly just
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it's pleasing to the lord handle that position with maturity handle it with grace but also wield
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it with courage and do not back down no matter how much guilt is heaped on you all right he just
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followed up with a two dollar super chat and just to add to his comment from farmer he said my wife
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is american i have asked questions before great great that's even more compatible yeah if your
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wife even more and we had pretty much the same question like three streams ago where someone was
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like yeah you know but uh you know it's it's two spouses one of them is american okay well then that
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all makes you all the more compatible um i think that that's legitimate okay uh antonio yep uh
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jd peabody sent ten dollars no comment just to support so thank you for that thanks um the next
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one savad atokad sent uh ten dollars thanks for that and says i'm a white happily married homeowner
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with three kids and one on the way i have strong male friendships and a great church and i'm only
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29 i am an anomaly and i hate it americans first make me average again well said the other day he
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said in the chat oh okay backwards is dakota dakota davis okay dakota davis and we just
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doxed him he's losing his job okay um no that man great comment uh one thanks for the ten dollars
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and two uh great comment so he's saying um all the things that you guys talk about that are
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nearly impossible for young white christian men uh by the grace of god that's not me yeah that's
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not can't be done but he's saying so number one have hope it could be done but number two he's
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not just saying well why don't you try harder why don't you you know solo bootstrap you even more
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Why don't you, you know, why can't you be like me?
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I accomplished it, but I know that I'm an anomaly
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my guy he said what's up boys love you guys i think of uh megamind he's like and i love you
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random citizen and we love you john we love you john and we do great guy uh john inman just just
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saying it is a movie night he's going out there it is a movie night text for details uh but just
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saying john john's a local guy great guy and it is a movie night all right uh brown anglo-saxon
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protestant he gave us 10 bucks we appreciate that he said my father-in-law is a major narcissist
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okay uh he doesn't respect my wife or our boundaries and we've tried reasoning with him
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he and my wife are now estranged that's really sad sorry to hear that uh how do we show him honor
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you know what i addressed this years ago and you know by god's grace i've changed on some things
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it's like well you changed you changed isn't it funny when people are like you changed and they
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and they assume that that's a gotcha like that somehow discredits what you're saying it's like
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like okay show me the guy who in 15 years hasn't changed aka has never repented has never been
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sanctified has never grown has never thought has never improved has never developed and tell me
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again why that's a brag so yes i have changed on many things this one i haven't i answered it years
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ago and i'm going to give the same answer now because i think it's right one way to honor
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someone who by position mandates honor. You're commanded. And a father-in-law is in that
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position like I talked earlier. So the position, regardless of his person, his position mandates
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honor. So you must show it. So how do you honor a man who is in a position of honor but in his
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person is dishonorable? How do you honor them? I think the way that you honor them is by covering
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the things that are not honorable so i think of the two sons not not the third the bad one but
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the two sons of noah how do you honor your your father when he's laying naked drunk in a tent
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not a good look right well that particular moment is not an honorable moment right so so you don't
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flatter because that requires deceit lying which is a sin so you don't go in you say uh like the
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emperor has no clothes dad you must have invisible thread to make this new outfit and it's gorgeous
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and lovely and oh my good like oh that's a lie so so how do you honor dad if in his person he's
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dishonorable or in that particular moment or season or whatever he's become dishonorable or
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committed a particular action or said a particular thing that is dishonorable the way you do it is
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like the two sons of Noah they don't um the way they honor their dishonorable father but they
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know by virtue of his position, he mandates honor. By virtue of that recent action, there's no honor
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that can be given. So what do they do? They cover his shame. They cover his shame. They don't flatter
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it. They don't lie about it. They don't try to pivot or tweak or twist. They don't rebrand.
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They don't try to put a positive spin. What they do is they conceal. They cover. And I think that's
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what you can do if you have a parent or a parent-in-law somebody like that in your life who
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by virtue of their position mandates honor but is behaving dishonorably what you can do is not lie
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and say well my my father or my mother-in-law or my so-and-so such and such is just so amazing and
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so incredible sometimes objectively they're just not they're not amazing they're not incredible
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but if that be the case what you can do is you can cover it you can just cover it and i think
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i think of our local church i think there are um a lot of men in our local church and the women for
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that matter but especially the men because i spend more time with them obviously um all the time man
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when when we're talking and and one of our fathers comes up in the discussion or one of our fathers
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is in town around the holidays visiting or something like that it's just you can just see
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Like that son, whether he's talking about his dad or introducing his dad to, you know, a men's hangout, you know, guys night or something like that, because he's in town for the weekend.
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It's just that guy, that grown adult son who's a member in our church is just bending over backwards to honor his dad.
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And the reality, and I know, not because later on behind their father's back, they whisper, whisper, say this, say that.
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they cover him not just when he's there not just when he comes up in conversation but all the time
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but i know in many cases it's like yeah that guy's dad is a raging zionist you know or that
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guy's dad is like the most normie dispensationalist you could possibly imagine like that guy's you
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know that guy's dad um when he thinks of a far-right ultra conservative he thinks of steve
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days you know like that guy like you know um but here's the deal his son his son you'll never hear
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the words out of his mouth hey you know my dad i remember when i was a kid he did x y and z
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my dad is uh a rock star or hey my dad's in town and uh we're doing cigars and uh here he is want
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you guys to meet him and just nothing but positive things to say so i think you know that's that's
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how you do it how do you um how do you honor a dishonorable person who by virtue of their
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position mandates honor well sometimes there's not a whole lot of positive things to highlight
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so then what you can do is have negative things that you can seal and that's the show for today
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