In the cultural war zones of corporate America, something strange is happening. Pride month, once the high holy season of the modern west, looks less like a parade this year and more like a retreat. But is this merely a tactical withdrawal, a marketing pause in response to conservative backlash, or something deeper?
00:08:54.600Well, if it'll sell us 10 more widgets, then we'll do this.
00:08:57.860Right. I think that the people who are in the HR offices, they might be true believers, maybe some of the CEOs, but really a lot of it is just a slave to mammon, a slave to money.
00:09:08.600So what we want to do, though, what I want to do here first is look at some previous historical examples and just kind of compare.
00:09:16.900There are times when true, lasting and enduring change has happened through reformation or even violent, not revolution, but state intervention.
00:09:28.220And then there have been times where there has been a groundswell of movement, but it has been just mainly a pendulum swing.
00:09:33.760And our prayer and our hope for America and the West is that this would not just be a pendulum swing.
00:09:42.220We went too far with the trans stuff.1.00
00:09:44.040Okay, let's get back to the late 90s, early 2000s.1.00
00:09:47.080Like our prayer and our hope is that there would be real change, positive change, enduring decades and decades long change, that we would not repeat this error in the West ever, ever again.
00:09:58.320I'm a little skeptical about that, but we'll see.
00:10:00.700So what I wanted to do is just show a graph, a chart of some of the, this was just kind
00:13:39.520So the question the question is, what do we think is going on? Is this and it doesn't actually have to be one or the other. There can be cultural pendulum swings, because we're always reacting against what came before. That's that's always the context. But those pendulum swings can also, I think, and I hope, lead to an actual seed of true change.
00:14:06.360And the question is going to be, are we going to recover in the West a true biblical sexual ethic, or are we just going to put the crazy back in the closet and leave everything else just fine?
00:14:16.320And so, gentlemen, any thoughts on kind of that, where we're at, what you think?
00:27:03.260those counter movements took to accomplish.
00:27:08.480And some of them were a century or two
00:27:10.940and some of them even the shortest ones were like a decade or two that was the effort by the more i
00:27:16.700guess for lack of a better term conservative or biblical counter push to kind of marshal its
00:27:23.740strength and push back against even in pendulum swings those didn't happen overnight right so i
00:27:30.140think i think if you count the last five years well 10 since a burger fell um if you if we go
00:27:36.940with your 10 or 15 years Joel that would be 20 to 25 years I think that's pretty reasonable
00:27:43.740at least for some sort of meaningful pushback it's not going to happen overnight right um
00:27:50.200because like like Joel you've talked about before the the the girls on their phones just checking
00:27:56.600Instagram and they've got the chip they can replace be replaced the the NCPs the NPCs
00:28:03.000npc sorry they they it could the the pride movement could fall out of disfavor pretty easily
00:28:09.480yeah well with half the population it can fall out of favor in 15 minutes yes yes because half
00:28:15.260the population my you know my theory on that but i i truly believe that it's not like oh women are
00:28:20.000no longer submissive and their entire disposition in nature has been changed and but like yeah no
00:28:24.800women submit to authority yes and the reigning authority has been the global gay you know the0.97
00:28:29.780g-a-e you know like so like women it's not that women have been you know sticking it to the man0.99
00:28:34.420no like women have been saying yes sir i'm a woman and i will follow men and the men are evil
00:28:38.880that's that's why so like so what you've seen for the last 40 50 years is men leaving the church
00:28:44.840and uh and women you know remain because the the reigning authority was still at some point you
00:28:51.280know uh or at least uh to some degree you know um this moral christian traditional religious
00:28:58.920authority. So like men rebelled, right? That's what men do. They think for themselves. They
00:29:04.020make their own choices for better and for worse. And so men left the church and women and children
00:29:09.000stayed. Well, this is the first time in the last couple of years, we talked about this a couple
00:29:13.100of weeks ago and showed a graph. It's the first time that men are actually, young men particularly
00:29:18.080are returning to the church and women are the ones who are the most liberal, the most progressive
00:29:22.740and the ones who are leaving. And I think it's, again, it's not because women all of a sudden
00:29:26.980and changed their tune. And we're like, now we're going to think for ourselves and we're going to
00:29:30.860rebel against the man, you know, and we're going to stand up and be independent. No, it's because
00:29:35.520the transition of authorities from old traditional Christian to new progressive secular has fully
00:29:47.360taken place. And so the female population is actually still just doing the same thing,
00:29:53.480namely submitting to authority it's just a different authority it used to be a christian0.78
00:29:58.140authority and now it's a gay authority uh whereas the men are doing precisely what they've always0.66
00:30:02.440done which is rebelling against the authority and because the authority these days is super0.97
00:30:07.080liberal and super progressive and super duper gay uh men are like uh-uh wait you're like the0.99
00:30:13.240reigning authority is saying that i should be a homo well i hate homos i'm going to church gosh0.99
00:30:19.560darn it right just to stick it to the man and that's kind of where we're at but i say that0.98
00:30:24.380that's hopeful in the sense that um men will always lead the way so in the same way that men0.96
00:30:30.700left the church and then the women eventually became progressive and liberal you know in the
00:30:35.560same way i think if men come back to the church women will eventually fall i uh people can be
00:30:40.760reset to factory settings i think really pretty easily it was a video that went viral it was
00:30:45.540probably about six months ago there was a girl in la who she was just self self-professed like
00:30:50.280i'm progressive i'm a feminist she said but here's the deal guys i went out last night on a date with1.00
00:30:54.780like a manly man and he gave me his credit card and said get whatever and literally she was like
00:30:59.120i literally felt the feminism leave my body we're talking about like a six hour evening for drinks1.00
00:31:04.100together in la and she's like you know all that crap that i spent all my time in college learning
00:31:08.260and becoming my personality went away when i literally just encountered a man in los angeles
00:31:13.840with testosterone above 500 yeah like people can be reset so easily so to your point joel it's not
00:31:18.840like women have had a hundred years psyop run on them that fundamentally all traces of it are gone
00:31:23.340like no this could all be undone in a couple years 51 of the population i think that's what
00:31:28.580you know women are they can change on a dime um so it really comes down to the men yep and i'm
00:31:34.420hopeful for the men because um they've been so disparaged and so beaten down um that they're
00:31:40.880angry yeah and my you know you know and now there's you know obviously like in your anger do
00:31:46.160not sin there can be certain pitfalls but on the whole young men in america being angry my response
00:31:53.420is good and they can be reset to factory too by watching some david goggins videos right by
00:32:00.260getting up early by getting into shape and seeing the results of it same thing for them like you
00:32:04.940take a young man that has just been you know nothing a consumer sitting at home doing nothing
00:32:09.800get him a job get him some sunlight get him some weights boom that man will be a far-right
00:32:14.760revolutionary in a year yeah yeah the real question before we go to our commercial break
00:32:19.120will be um the the ideology is still very entrenched in the republican party as it as it
00:32:25.580exists now you know yes talked already at length this year about how a number of the people that
00:32:30.700trump's appointed are openly gay or supposedly married to gay partners etc so there's there's
00:32:37.200a long way to go but the the the point of this first section is um we are in the middle of
00:32:44.160something it's either a pendulum shift a little ways or a major return to god's natural order
00:32:53.240and we're praying it's the second one but even if it's just the first one it's better than what
00:32:58.180like you said joel it's better than what it has been and we're grateful yeah some things that
00:33:02.440help just real quick is um what was it is it david greenwald who's uh glenn glenn glenn that's right
00:33:08.480glenn yeah so like some things that do help because i was going to say like so the gop is
00:33:13.720super gay like what you were saying it's it's entrenched in uh the republican party but i think
00:33:18.860a lot of that is not so much ideological um like trump for instance i don't think he's an ideologue
00:33:24.020i don't think he really has much conviction one way the other i think he has convictions on he's
00:33:29.320he's you know a 1990s liberal democrat and uh has been a businessman his whole life so so i think
00:33:35.400he like he genuinely has convictions on like some of the financial pieces like tariffs right uh but
00:33:40.440other than that like i think he's like i'm for israel and then you know if netanyahu offends
00:33:45.800him he's like i'm not for israel you know like and he you know what i mean like i don't think
00:33:49.220he has a deep entrenched like true conviction one way or the other he's like you know the the
00:33:53.980Adelson's gave me a hundred million dollars for Israel, you know, and then this guy's doing his0.95
00:33:59.740laundry, you know, this Jew's doing his laundry at the white house, you know, I'm not for Israel,1.00
00:34:04.560you know? And so I, so my point is with the gay thing, especially when I think of the, you know,0.99
00:34:09.440the, the present GOP thinking of Trump and MAGA, I don't think it's like ideologically,0.55
00:34:15.640we've studied the issue and we're genuinely convicted that, you know, gay is good. I don't1.00
00:34:21.020think that's it i think a lot of it really is with trump and and maga as a whole it's just
00:34:25.560relationships and we're all to you know to not just pick on trump we're all kind of like that
00:34:29.800like if uh we're all tempted to make concessions uh for the people that we love like we just are
00:34:35.880and so i think we uh letting so many uh gays into the republican party um over time like they've
00:34:45.740they've made friendships and relationships and so now when you think of you're like okay well0.87
00:34:50.700we'll start we'll stop the most progressive you know crazy extreme versions of the lgbt mafia but0.90
00:34:57.520but so and so is my friend and so in the province of god i i thank god i mean it's absolutely0.99
00:35:02.800disgusting but i thank god that in his mercy that the good gays are having videos released where it's0.82
00:35:08.580like okay here's a good gay and uh who is a single father so as far as we can tell children are in0.97
00:35:17.860the home probably asleep but in the same house there are children and he's got hard drugs right0.71
00:35:25.180in the background you can see it in the video and is doing you know this this dominant humiliation
00:35:31.740ritual and recording it and i what i love about that is um it's like man that's a really unique
00:35:38.280case nope uh that's uh like i mean you know that's i mean that's one in a thousand nope that's every0.94
00:35:45.940gay dude ever they're all pervs yep you don't you don't it's not just like oh i have a gay gene or0.96
00:35:53.460like no no no no um you're you're talking about you can read the statistics uh the the average1.00
00:36:00.000gay man has 500 plus partners over his lifetime uh time and i think it's like 25 a quarter of gay
00:36:06.320men have a thousand plus and to be fair that's a study from the 70s in san francisco so its
00:36:11.160applicability is going to vary across you know take a young man that just is in high school
00:36:15.040it's going to vary up and down but there are whole groups of gay men that they've interviewed
00:36:18.460and like yeah about half of us have had 500 or more sexual partners in our lifetime yes yeah
00:36:23.620and the type you know the manner of sexual engagement that they're you know that they're0.56
00:36:29.880taking part in is um immensely perverse and so yeah i mean even when you know two gay men you0.97
00:36:38.620know uh purchase a baby you know through surrogacy which is just absolutely ridiculous that we're0.98
00:36:44.980you know human trafficking right for gay men to live out their you know their pleasure how come0.99
00:36:49.700it's always a boy like two gay dudes always adopt uh let me guess is it going to be a little girl0.93
00:36:56.240oh it's a boy oh it's another boy oh it's another boy oh it's another every time every time every0.76
00:37:02.600single time this is every single time situation greenwald is jewish as well as dave rubin and
00:37:06.760his partner so as yep so as this continues to to happen and more of this stuff gets released
00:37:12.240i i think that this is my theory i'll stop here but i think that you know the left overplayed
00:37:17.080its hand 2020 to 2022 was kind of the high watermark you saw it through tyranny and covid0.73
00:37:22.640and blm and you know and you know super duper gayness you know with target with like like0.76
00:37:28.400what were they the the things that like hide your breast chest binders for little girls yeah and so0.81
00:37:34.900all so they overplayed their hand what we need now i think in in the providence of god if he
00:37:40.120would be so kind is to show us oh these weren't just the one-off rare occasions for you know the0.59
00:37:46.200extreme you know manifestations of the lgbt mafia but we need is uh for more glenn greenwalds to0.98
00:37:53.780come out like even the good guys who are teaming up with the conservatives they're super duper0.91
00:38:00.060gross um and and i think with enough of those uh people realize oh this is just par for the course0.90
00:38:06.700this is just the lifestyle this is what it means to be gay like i i people think i'm just trying to0.92
00:38:13.780be funny when i'm trying to get a rise i'm not um like there's been a 40 year psyop to propagandize
00:38:20.400people to think that you know will and grace you know or modern family with um mitch and cam or
00:38:26.260something you know like this there's been this very intentional deliberate psyop and and i mean
00:38:31.700millions and millions of dollars poured into it billions um to say they're just like you
00:38:37.060right they um in fact they're better than you because um they're artistic and creative and
00:38:44.380compassionate and and i just think like the general public needs to be reminded both christians and
00:38:49.420non-christians alike um that you know like there's all these characteristics of the gay community you
00:38:54.360know creativity and artistic and yeah but the key defining characteristic of the gay community is0.99
00:39:01.060butt sex with a sprinkle of child abuse and until the average person is ready to admit that and has1.00
00:39:09.340seen it so pervasively that they can't make it go away it's etched in their brains then we're not1.00
00:39:14.380going to be able to put the gay away and we must put the gay away um homosexuals there's only two1.00
00:39:18.920places for them to go in a healthy viable society and that's either the cross or the closet so um1.00
00:39:26.960at anywhere else on the public square with parades, then that society is committing suicide.
00:39:33.720A healthy society will always have some individuals who have chosen a perverse lifestyle,
00:39:39.720but it should only reserve for them two options, that it's sequestered, it's in the closet,
00:39:45.840it's private, it's not celebrated, it's not approved of publicly, or go to the cross and
00:39:52.940believe upon the Lord Jesus Christ and repent of your sin and, and then come back and be praised
00:39:57.940for your repentance and your love for Christ. But, um, so long as we praise sin, um, then we're,
00:40:05.280yeah, we're, we're doomed. And, and I think part of the reason we're praising sin is because we
00:40:11.240have found a way very intentionally and deliberately over decades to make that sin
00:40:17.000look into we like we have really we have really been working hard to polish a turd like a 40 year
00:40:24.140long turd polishing campaign we're like like all right so it's gonna be hard to get around the0.97
00:40:30.080butt sex but how can we somehow you know make this look great it's like well look at look at1.00
00:40:36.820their taste in in the curtains and drapes and interior design you know and like oh and they0.97
00:40:42.420adopted a sweet little asian girl a modern family and look at how kind they are as parents and i
00:40:47.840mean we've like we've had to do triple axles and jumping through hoops and um and i think you know
00:40:53.520the antidote is uh just you know for it to be exposed more and more nope that actually is just0.56
00:41:00.200a thin veneer and and the real the real descriptive of of a homosexual lifestyle is disease promiscuity
00:41:11.280um infidelity abuse uh drug and alcohol addiction drug and alcohol substance abuse
00:41:18.700um that's i mean that that is the defining characteristics so yeah all right we'll go to
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00:46:47.120it has a lobbying arm um for lobbying the the government the u.s government and and state
00:46:52.660governments but primarily what it has done it has gone to corporations and companies and human
00:46:59.860resource divisions and universities and has put pressure on them to make it um desirable
00:47:09.040for them to quote unquote be an ally of the gay rights movement the lgbtq movement and so
00:47:16.360that one of the most powerful things that they have in their disposal is their what they call
00:47:21.620their equality score i think that's what it is and it's a rating that they give to major companies
00:47:29.280and and universities around the country and they rate these corporations and companies
00:47:35.720based on how affirming and supportive and how much of an ally they are to the lgbtq movement
00:47:43.440And that score, that desire to have a high score on that has led many, many companies
00:47:52.740who have really nothing, like their business doesn't even run in the sectors that would
00:47:59.320be somewhat adjacent to what you said, Joel, earlier, the stereotype of gay rights.
00:48:04.560So it's not a fashion company, it's a finance company, BlackRock.
00:48:08.040um what's the uh the airplane manufacturer not boeing um anyway um delta no no no they fly
00:48:17.820airplanes um like so so i'll remember it in a minute um companies that have really no0.80
00:48:27.360adjacent space with the gay culture they get told look we are going to assign you a score this year
00:48:34.380And it's going to rate how much of an ally you are to the gay community.
00:48:39.080And then we're going to publicize this score.0.91
00:48:41.280And that threat or incentive, however you want to look at it, has been enough to convince
00:48:46.300many corporations to, for instance, in June, put things on their website or to design a
00:48:53.880line of clothing just for June that's pride, gay affirming, et cetera.
00:48:58.000So there's two ways that companies manifest their support.0.86
00:49:02.240One is if they're in a sector like Nike, they might design a line that is all about pride and it has their disgusting flag and colors on it.
00:49:15.200And so they'll run that line for all of June.
00:49:17.600So if it's a company that makes sense in kind of some sort of space where they can kind of brand the pride colors and logo all over the place, then they'll do that.
00:49:26.960But there are other companies that that doesn't make as much sense with, like Comcast, the telecom company.
00:49:35.920But what they do is they get pressured into being major sponsors of the big pride festivals in major cities around America.
00:49:47.380And so each of the cities has its own kind of independent organization.
00:49:51.580So the San Francisco Pride Festival is its own organization.
00:49:55.520there's one in toronto there's one in new york there's one in dc chicago all over the all over
00:50:00.160the country but the equal rights commission comes in and they say look it's not like you can release
00:50:05.520a line of clothing that will support pride but you can become one of our premier donors and for most
00:50:11.600of these uh organizations that is 175 000 or more to the monthly pride festival going on in that
00:50:20.640city and so what we're going to see are some examples of companies who have either stopped
00:50:27.760some sort of clothing line or what they've done is they've stopped being one of the kind of the
00:50:32.980diamond level donors of these independent city pride festivals and the big ones of course are
00:50:39.460new york um san francisco chicago uh some of the other ones and so it's not that um you know
00:50:48.100So Anheuser-Busch is funding all of it.
00:50:51.760They might just be a donor to the pride parade or festival in their local city.
00:50:57.560But that's enough to get them this score of extreme ally or the highest possible ranking that you could get.
00:51:04.520And so when we say that brands are pulling back from their support of the LGBTQ movement, they're either not releasing all the products they did in previous years or they have withdrawn their financial support.
00:51:18.100of these local pride parades and pride celebrations.
00:51:22.540So the one that really I think we have to start with
00:57:27.280It didn't cost you anything to carry debt.
00:57:29.540And so companies were doing these big expansions, whether it was in manufacturing, whether it was in hiring, whether it was in investments.
00:57:34.600And so you have just tons and tons of cash, honestly, floating around.
00:57:37.540And so that's when you're much more likely to say, hey, you want $200,000, the city of pride, Biden's in the office, we're all in on this.
00:57:44.280I think a big part of it, not the only thing, but a big part was a couple of years ago,
00:57:48.420money, cheap money, no borrowing rates.
00:58:43.260sponsor that that isn't funding it at all target target is this is a really interesting one
00:58:48.200the target last year pulled way back right and then there was backlash against them from the
00:58:54.360lgbtq community this year target actually approached the um the new york pride um
00:59:02.500foundation or committee and said hey we'd like to sponsor you and they said no go pound sand you
00:59:08.000turned you back on us last year we don't want your money anymore so i love it it's fantastic
00:59:12.980yep um and i said mastercard already um comcast um that's just a smattering of them so
00:59:20.520yep um nate let's look at quote number two here if you don't mind
00:59:26.200so this is um this is going to lead into what i think is really the interesting story here
00:59:34.640this is from an article talking about why major companies are stepping away from pride this year
00:59:45.020and the article says this it's not like big business and the government ushered us this is
00:59:50.680someone speaking on behalf of the lgbtq community it's not like big business and the government
00:59:56.440ushered us to a place of progress and then suddenly abandoned us lgbtq plus communities
01:00:01.580imagined a better life for themselves, communicated their expectations and hopes to audiences,
01:00:07.360architected structures for community connection and equity, and then co-created a better world
01:00:12.580with increased value and equity. What I find so interesting here is this is actually the veil
01:00:17.200pulled back a little bit. They really are creating an alternate reality and have been
01:00:22.240from the beginning. And in a lot of the articles I read, it was a, well, Target dropped us,
01:00:29.800anheuser-busch dropped us but we managed to create a false reality once and we're just going to do it
01:00:35.920again and what i find so interesting about that is they the organizers of these things know what's
01:00:41.420going on this really is a clash between reality and non-reality or two visions of what reality is
01:00:47.300and they are resolved to push their view of reality regardless of whether or not they lose sponsors or
01:00:53.960The black pill on this is that most of these cities, these pride organizations in these cities, made up what they lost from the corporate donations by going to private donors.
01:01:06.140And most of them were able to make up their entire budget for the year.
01:01:09.780Right. The companies aren't ideological.
01:03:37.360OK, so this is a chart that the line, what it shows is the perceived risk to a corporation if it puts a statement out in support of that particular issue.
01:03:53.720So it has various social issues, racial equity and DEI, LGBTQ and equality, climate sustainability, et cetera, et cetera.
01:04:02.680So the top three are the ones that are interesting, at least for this episode.
01:04:07.360racial equity and dei lgbtq and then well i guess climate is a different issue so if you see the
01:04:15.040graph going up what that means is companies according to their own polling and data perceive
01:04:21.340that taking a stand on a particular issue is increasingly risky for their bottom line so the
01:04:28.140higher the number is on the chart the more company says if we say that we're going to lose money and
01:04:35.760that's the confidence that the companies have that if they take that stand it will affect their
01:04:41.120bottom line so this is over the last three years uh no not even that one year q1 2024 to q1 2025
01:04:49.900and it's gone um with the lgbtq issue it's gone up three points which doesn't sound like a lot
01:04:58.020but it's on a 10 point scale so that's like the 30 percent increase on the lgbtq issue that
01:05:05.840fortune 500 companies have just said if we take a stand on this it is going to affect our bottom
01:05:11.880line at least in the u.s which 8.6 out of 10 yes this is close to the biggest issue yes that would
01:05:18.020impact our bottom line so lgbtq if i understand what you're saying lgbtq plus on that issue
01:05:24.040companies are saying it's more risky and over the last year yes they've big time they they're
01:05:30.040saying it's far more risky like a 50 year ago there was like almost zero risk at least in their
01:05:36.360opinion i think that's speak out in favor of lgbtq oh it starts with six you're right so so i i view
01:05:42.220that from basically like six to almost nine so like almost a 50 percent increase so like a year
01:05:46.660ago they're saying whatever let's say it's like um there's a moderate risk and now it's um it's
01:05:53.06050 percent more risky in their assessment so now it's like a high risk you know or moderate to
01:05:59.340high risk on that issue and then racial equity and dei yeah say it's a little higher yeah well
01:06:06.140it's higher overall but it started higher yes it started higher so uh that one increase hasn't
01:06:10.400been as much yeah so that one started higher but again this is uh this isn't the last 20 years
01:06:14.860Q1 2020. So that kind of makes sense to me on the heels of BLM so overplaying its hand
01:06:22.000that by the beginning of 2024, they were basically saying this is already risky to push racial equity
01:06:29.800in DEI. And then a year later, beginning of 2025, they're like, this is a suicide basically to push
01:06:36.800this. Climate change looks like it went up just slightly briefly, and then it became a little
01:06:42.960more risky you know maybe people were uh tired briefly you know for a quarter with the climate
01:06:47.920you know uh worship but then kind of went right back down so climate has stayed the same
01:06:52.320uh but what's what i'm not understanding about the chart is it seems like um
01:06:57.520it seems like immigration has become less risky slightly but um but over from from q1 2024 to q1
01:07:08.9802025 um that like them emphasizing positively immigration um is or it could be negative not as
01:07:17.100risky so it could be viewed as less risky to speak negatively of immigration same thing with crime
01:07:21.580and safety here so speaking negatively like high crime is impacting us it's becoming less risky
01:07:26.480for stores just to come up and say hey we're closing x y and z like walgreens we're closing
01:07:30.500these locations it's high crime it's a lot of our products okay that was my question and maybe
01:07:35.160maybe that's the answer yep um the other issue is immigration i don't feel like has been as
01:07:42.860pushed onto the corporate world um i don't feel like a year ago there were massive you know nike
01:07:49.800wasn't really getting involved with immigration to the scale to the degree that it was pride or
01:07:54.220dei or things like that so i don't know yeah well i mean for nike it's like i don't see how
01:08:00.440immigration would be profitable like for them it's like i'd like to keep these eight-year-old
01:08:06.180children in china right so that i can pay them you know 50 cents a day why are you if they moved
01:08:11.900to the u.s yeah we might have to pay them like like five bucks an hour that's right so i can see
01:08:17.120why nike would not find it profitable and hey you play a role in this i email stores in my local
01:08:20.880town if i see pride balloon stuff like that yeah i am disgusted i was here with my kids why is this
01:08:26.240here you literally you should be taking out your email you see a store in your town especially
01:08:30.800locally owned so not a chain not necessarily your walmart although you can certainly email the
01:08:34.640manager but local stores hey i saw this here i will not be shopping again i'm disgusted with it
01:08:39.640you get 10 emails like that a local store in a month let me tell you what they're not doing it
01:08:44.020again like practically speaking it's free it is completely legal as a customer to voice your
01:08:49.440complaints i'm not advocating anything illegal and you can go and you can blast them and say i am
01:08:53.840disgusted to celebrate this and i will not be shopping again right i i demand bigotry yeah
01:09:01.260that's right you will my town where you will not get my patron let's hit this second chart and
01:09:07.760that'll wrap up this segment i found this one particularly interesting as well actually sorry
01:09:11.700this is the third chart it's the second chart of the segment yeah that's the one thanks nate so
01:09:17.460this one i need to explain for a minute this is the title says the share of executives who said
01:09:22.820each stakeholder is driving their company to change its pride engagement in 2025. Okay, the
01:09:29.700font, the words are a little small on the screen. So the top row is, sorry, the columns are what
01:09:37.580kind of business it was. So the first column is all companies who responded or the CEOs of
01:09:44.360companies who responded. The second two, B2B and B2C, these are companies whose business is
01:09:51.920in what sector. So B2B is business to business. They provide products for businesses. The B2C
01:09:58.800is companies or corporations who provide products and services to consumers. It's a different thing.
01:10:04.800Okay. So these CEOs of these companies were polled and asked, why did you change your pride
01:10:12.200engagement in 2025? The number one reason, the top row is pressure from the new administration.
01:10:19.880so when you combine all respondents together on average 61 percent of ceos who made a change
01:10:27.600to what they were doing with their company with pride in 2025 said they did so because of pressure
01:10:34.180from president trump's administration now not to toot our own horn here but this is exactly what
01:10:42.900we're saying is the option when the state gets involved imagine if this was actually a godly
01:16:33.300But many, many, many of the prestigious awards that are given out in culture are given to people who promote filth.0.82
01:16:41.820And one of the things that I think a Christian society will have is we will, the government is told to punish what is evil, but it's also told to reward, to praise what is good.0.76
01:16:55.020And we need a society, again, where we are affirming, publicly affirming, of those individuals and people and corporations who affirm and promote and produce that which is good.
01:17:10.000Now, that's a couple steps down the road, I think.
01:17:13.100I mean, we don't take over the academy and even building new awards.
01:17:15.980But this ERC, they were able to give their equity score within about a decade of them beginning the Equal Rights Campaign.
01:17:24.000i mean that would it really not that long and that score became a major factor to convince
01:17:30.640corporations you guys need to jump on board with this even though you're in a sector that
01:17:35.500doesn't seem to have any connection to our movement at all we need a new index but it's for0.62
01:17:40.280how likely they are to hire heritage americans right you'd shoot for a 99 like we are the place
01:17:45.560that will hire americans yeah work american buy american manufacture american yeah and and men
01:17:51.340prioritizing men with livable wages so that their wives can actually have children um i so i have a
01:17:58.480question that i'm just curious what you guys think and in the chat maybe you guys could respond those
01:18:03.600of you who are watching it live um i don't even like part of me doesn't even want to ask the
01:18:08.120question um because it's it goes against you know my convictions and uh and or not even my
01:18:14.460convictions that's not true um it goes against my hopes what i hope would be the reality but i'm
01:18:20.000not convinced it is the real reality hence the question so here's the question i wonder from
01:18:24.580like 2020 to 2024 because basically what we're saying is that you know 2020 to 2022 is kind of0.94
01:18:31.040like the high watermark on all things gay and we're starting to put the gay away uh praise god0.90
01:18:37.200and um and i guess my question is um on one hand because i could see multiple factors you know so0.85
01:18:45.780why like what's happened so one we're entertaining like is there a return to christian values is a
01:18:51.800return to christ that's number one so does this represent at least in part um a genuine bona fide
01:18:58.340christian revival you know or reformation and and we hope so and i think that that could be
01:19:02.920one characteristic we do see young men returning to the church so i'm gonna i'm gonna go ahead and
01:19:07.400put a couple tallies in that category um but but i i think all three of us would agree that we can't
01:19:13.780say that's the exclusive cause right that's that's kind of the point of the episode we're
01:19:17.320talking about well there's corporations incentives and there's economic incentives and there's all
01:19:21.700these other things so part of it um a return to christ i think at least part of it um we hope for0.94
01:19:27.020more but um but at least part of it and so praise god for that uh so why are we putting the gay0.88
01:19:31.720away um partly a return to christ um partly uh because gay is just not as profitable as it once0.92
01:19:38.400was uh partly we're also saying because of the arrogance of the lgbt communion uh community0.70
01:19:43.300communion um community and uh there is like an lgbt communion i've seen the the blue-haired
01:19:49.600feminist priestess you know uh you know yeah pretty pretty terrible blasphemy but um so part
01:19:56.240of it is uh they overplayed their hands so part of his return to christ part of it is economic
01:19:59.900incentives and corporations following the dollar part of it is um the bad guys overplaying their
01:20:04.620hand getting too cocky and um and people you know it's just them going you know uh crossing the line
01:20:10.320and going a step too far and it just you know um causing disgust in uh the public here's here's
01:20:17.500another factor that i just thought of that i'm just going to pose as a question i don't really
01:20:21.760like you know because uh and just for the record when i say i don't like it what i mean is um i
01:20:28.120i'm an american and so i like my hope is that heritage americans um that they would actually0.91
01:20:36.320be revolting against um the the perversion of lgbt and that they're actually changing and0.81
01:20:45.440and perhaps even repenting um i hope that it's not some other cause um that's lending towards
01:20:52.520this transition but there's one big one that i can't help thinking of which is from 2024 yes0.60
01:20:59.300the left overplayed its hand with you know gay this they gayed everything everything was gay
01:21:03.480but also something else happened from 20 to 24 that's fairly significant which is by my assessment
01:21:10.080and some of the things i've read about 40 million immigrants came into the country um about um i
01:21:17.540think it was about um i forget like three to five million that were legal about nine to twelve
01:21:23.920million that were illegal and so about 20 million legal and ill illegal that are on the books and
01:21:30.700then i'm i'm doubling that which i think even that might be conservative for gotaways and people that
01:21:36.740weren't recorded um well here's the thing um immigrants are going to vote for democrats for
01:21:43.940financial incentives and handouts and welfare and all these kinds of things and for loose borders
01:21:49.220so that like you know if you're an immigrant whether it be legal or illegal you're like well
01:21:53.900i'm going to vote for the guy who's going to let in my cousin you know or my you know 47 cousins
01:21:58.780you know whatever it might be um but so uh immigrants aren't are no bueno um but um from
01:22:09.200some of the things that i've read although they they do um like a 90 10 ratio vote democrat there
01:22:15.420are some exceptions like cubans and things like that but for the most part um immigrants vote
01:22:20.500democrat like a nine to one ratio versus republican but from what i've read it's primarily
01:22:26.040for financial incentives welfare free free cash and loose borders for their friends and family to
01:22:32.460come um it's not uh because uh all these immigrants from other places in the world
01:22:38.520are you know super gay affirming and so i'm wondering here's my question i'm wondering
01:22:43.720is part of the tide turning on on america's acceptance of lgbt all things rainbow um is
01:22:54.660part of it because we have 40 million new people in the country who come from third world countries
01:23:02.000that have plenty of problems but like rampant homosexuality may not be one of them what do0.98
01:23:09.960you guys think my inclination is low due to the political and social capital the most newly1.00
01:23:16.120arrived immigrants have so when i think of those that are leading the charge against gay rights0.98
01:23:20.300for instance uh like andrew tate is a good example of one dan blazerian there's a bunch of guys that
01:23:25.280are not at all like immigrant immigrants whatsoever that are really public voices so
01:23:29.600you think about like well who's talking about this who's disgusted by it who's really you know0.86
01:23:34.260catalyzing people to be they're fed up with it it's guys like you joel it's guys like those others
01:23:39.240i just mentioned so i think those that are people are then listening to them and going oh this this0.99
01:23:45.000isn't good we don't want it those definitely aren't immigrants and i also don't think they0.94
01:23:48.560have a lot of uh economic capital as well to drive those decisions so like anheuser bush0.98
01:23:53.480like i just practically i don't think that was and it certainly could have been but um i just
01:23:59.240don't think it was the mexican roofers that spoke spanish they're all drinking the ones you know
01:24:03.400like uh boycotting bud light it was people that were plugged into america's cultural and political0.93
01:24:08.780yeah you're right movements okay and so my guess is because of their lack of capital i'm sure it
01:24:14.300it is somewhat of a factor and certainly islam like they don't like gays and right like i mean0.67
01:24:19.620we've had a ton of muslims come in and they're not gay friendly enemy on my enemy they're doing
01:24:23.520some good work uh so certainly some i just don't think they have the capital that even with that0.50
01:24:27.920size i don't know if they've been able to move yeah well just for the record that's i mean i
01:24:33.120don't know if that's true but that's the answer i was hoping to hear because i like that's my guess
01:24:37.260that's what i want to be true i i think the same because i want to think that my fellow americans
01:24:41.760have actually changed i think so because the people who are pushing on it like i thought of
01:24:45.600robbie starbuck um who's been pushing on it as well and the other thing the other reason why
01:24:53.340i don't think it is is if immigrants are voting democrat for the financial incentives they'll
01:25:00.620continue to vote democrat for the financial incentives right they're not it's not like
01:25:04.320they're they're okay well we've hit this issue and that's well my thought was it wouldn't change
01:25:10.420their voting patterns um but it would uh in terms of like corporations shifting like so maybe that
01:25:15.980like yeah like a bunch of immigrants are still going to vote for democrats in the next election
01:25:20.180but maybe they stopped drinking the anheuser bush and so then that pushed on the corporation and
01:25:25.180the corporation stopped funding and and that caused some cultural change although politically
01:25:29.360they're still going to have the same allegiance but but like what you gave wes although that's
01:25:34.500like um anecdotal evidence like it's it's it's just telling a story it's not like conclusive
01:25:41.940but it is compelling like when i think of you know a bunch of you know um uh spanish-speaking
01:25:48.640like immigrants that probably are still buying i think they could have a lot of they just also
01:25:54.820don't know who dylan mulvaney is well yeah right i think they could have a lot of influence in a
01:25:58.980local like a school board or something like that and we have seen that where um muslim or mexican
01:26:05.680immigrants have have basically taken over the school board and and run for school board and
01:26:12.120gotten rid of a lot of the woke ideology in their local school i'm not sure that's translating to a
01:26:17.980movement though and i can give an anecdote like my neighborhood i don't know there was some
01:26:22.280instance somebody called someone a name and so some white woman was like we got a band together0.84
01:26:26.780and so she made signs that have all the colors of rainbow including brown they're super ugly
01:26:31.200it's like equality is equality or something and there's a lot of people who ordered them and put
01:26:35.120them up so practically speaking i'm not saying like this is at the corporate level and at the
01:26:39.380personal level the neighborhood level every single person is turning against it there is an1.00
01:26:43.440entrenched probably 20 to 30 percent of americans that are like nope and it's a lot of women like1.00
01:26:48.540i said the facebook was where this kind of originated so a lot of women and they are for0.93
01:26:53.480sure they're like no we doubled down it went badly we got routed in the election have you heard of0.83
01:26:58.880the triple down we can do this that's right um so they're not going to go away quietly yeah yeah
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01:28:04.240The danger of centralized power is often represented by the word king.
01:50:16.700So if this is like somebody and it's not their MO and they voice like thoughtful disagreement on one episode that Right Response Ministries does, then they might just be right.
01:53:48.060why do we see it so strongly now i i don't know i suppose it's possible but i'm inclined to think
01:53:54.080that it's it's probably not intrinsic yeah so 100 my thoughts on this because i've thought about it
01:54:01.260for a while and i you know i there's plenty of things i've thought about for a while and uh
01:54:05.940and after careful thought and consideration i land on the wrong conclusion so so i could still
01:54:10.400be wrong but um first i would say 100 agreement with michael in terms of um moral culpability
01:54:15.600So in terms of like, well, if a person is, you know, born gay, then it's not their fault, you know, and they're morally, you know, innocent.
02:06:52.680I just think that the church at large and myself personally, I just, I gave way too much into over-spiritualizing everything where nature was not just of little account, but of no account to where, but it's like God created a physical world and it's real and it matters and it has significance.
02:07:13.660So the spiritual, of course, is of greater account.
02:07:17.540What's eternal is, of course, more important than what's temporal and physical.