The NXR Podcast - THE LIVESTREAM - Return of the King ｜ 2024 Presidential Election Livestream

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00:03:00.080 cheers the donald is returning g n not m

00:03:15.080 but in good night uh brothers and sisters uh so far man we are off with a bang we would have

00:03:22.620 started live streaming sooner uh but you know there's guys like andrew isker and cj they were

00:03:28.440 holding down the fort um you know they hate their kids we love our kids so we were doing you know

00:03:33.620 things like family worship and bedtime and reading those kinds of things and so and in a responsible

00:03:38.400 fatherly way we are now live streaming the kids are in bed it's 8 p.m uh central time here in the

00:03:44.320 great republic of texas west how are we doing in texas right now uh up by 10 points projected to

00:03:49.040 win which is fantastic um obviously texas has been stronger in the past we want to see it stronger in

00:03:55.600 the future um but there's two big factors as i'm concerned you guys feel free to to add another one

00:04:01.000 if you think but uh one we are a border state and we have a full-blown invasion and um and that is

00:04:07.040 part of the problem uh immigration is absolutely part of the problem in terms of worry about that

00:04:10.500 later in terms of you know texas and it turning uh you know purplish by god's grace it's still

00:04:15.500 it's still red it's not as deep red as it once was uh but the purplish in texas and this is one

00:04:20.360 of the reasons this has been our argument for months now at this point right so we recognize

00:04:23.940 uh that there are problems with trump of course there are um and just for the record i you know

00:04:28.560 like i i've seen you know some some guys on you know the more abolitionist side of the aisle who

00:04:33.600 we love uh but uh there was one in particular who said um you know you guys are calling the

00:04:38.840 christian nationalists are calling donald trump the christian prince i don't know anybody who said

00:04:41.940 that right so we don't think that uh the donald is the christian prince uh but we will take him

00:04:47.420 over kamla uh every day of the week and twice on sunday um so we're we're grateful for a donald

00:04:52.540 trump scenario and part of the argumentation for why is because uh texas is deep red as it once was

00:04:58.580 texas will go blue if we don't stop immigration california was red for a long time you look at

00:05:04.120 old electoral colleges california's blood red yep and a lot of that was sadly uh reagan's fault

00:05:10.220 reagan set the preconditions with some of the bills and legislation that allowed california

00:05:15.840 not only to go blue but to go blue in such a way that it is um apart from the miracle

00:05:19.860 it'll never go back and so you had like i mean right california was a republican conservative

00:05:25.740 stronghold you have ronald reagan he was the governor there and then you know very conservative

00:05:29.920 president uh but he messed up at least in two regards probably more but uh two of them one

00:05:35.460 being no fault divorce which in his defense towards the end of his life he said was the

00:05:39.460 biggest mistake he ever made and um and i think it haunted him to the grave he realized that he

00:05:43.620 messed up big time bigly as trump would say uh but in addition to that he set the conditions

00:05:49.240 uh through immigration and those kinds of things for uh california to turn blue and the same thing

00:05:54.220 we just we need to you know uh be careful if any man thinks he stands lest he fall right and so

00:05:59.840 like we just have to recognize that uh the same thing that happened to california could happen

00:06:03.940 to texas could happen uh to the whole country and so that's part of the reason why we unapologetically

00:06:09.200 voted for trump uh here i am a 19th amendment um repealing guy not a respecter but a repealer

00:06:18.140 disrespector of the 19th amendment. And yet, uh, without any hypocrisy, uh, hypocrisy at all

00:06:24.940 whatsoever, uh, happily went into the voting booth with my wife and, uh, and we both cast our vote

00:06:31.560 for Trump. And I heard, you know, somebody, you know, was like, this is hypocrisy. He wants to

00:06:34.840 repeal the 19th, but he, uh, he has his wife voting for Trump. Um, no, half of my vote was

00:06:41.260 stolen from me before I was ever born. Um, that's what the 19th amendment did. It took the household

00:06:45.720 vote that didn't just belong to men. It belonged to families. It belonged to families, belonged to

00:06:50.940 the household. And we believe in representative government. Right now, there are people who

00:06:54.880 represent me in my county, in my state, in my country, whether I like it or not, but they still

00:06:59.360 represent me. And so we believe in representative government. The individual is not the basic

00:07:05.800 building block or the atom, but ultimately it boils down not to the atomic level, but the

00:07:11.020 molecular level the basic building block of any society any healthy society is not the individual

00:07:15.940 but the family and each family each household had one vote so it wasn't you know the male vote it

00:07:21.940 was the family vote as representative representative government even at the level of the household

00:07:26.860 by by the father by my husband slash father and before i was ever born because of the 19th

00:07:33.320 amendment the way i see it is half of my household vote was stolen from me and my loving godly

00:07:40.700 wonderful wife um she uh what we're practicing is not hypocrisy what we're practicing is

00:07:46.980 restitution my loving wife said um wicked people stole half of your vote husband and i would like

00:07:54.220 to uh give it back to you so there you go so we voted for donald trump noses were not plugged we

00:07:59.560 slept my nose was plugged for ted cruz though let me tell you yeah that's fair that's fair we need a

00:08:03.360 better candidate 2028 whenever he comes back again so all that being said real quick and then i'll

00:08:08.200 throw it to you uh we voted for trump but my point is part of it is because of the full-blown

00:08:12.320 invasion when it comes to our southern border when it comes to immigration and the point that i'm

00:08:16.980 trying to make is that uh texas were up 10 points praise god uh but texas not only could it go purple

00:08:22.240 it could absolutely go blue and and stay blue forever um if we don't fix immigration so part

00:08:27.780 of the the logic for voting for trump is um because we we've got you know 20 million immigrants

00:08:33.480 many of them illegal and thousands of them literally guilty of homicide before crossing

00:08:38.520 the border. And they knew it and they let them cross the border anyways. And so in loving our 0.58

00:08:43.040 neighbors, loving our wives, loving our children, we're saying, look, we're not going to allow this

00:08:48.400 invasion to continue. There's political reasons for that. There's physical safety reasons for

00:08:52.780 that. And we've got 20 million and we've got some guys, you know, who work the border. We've talked

00:08:56.960 to us personally said, nah, 20 million is low. They're not counting all of it. So some guys are

00:09:01.840 saying it's 30 or even 40 million. If we get four more years of Democrats, you're going to have

00:09:06.860 another 30, 40 million and the country will never recover. And that's part of the logic.

00:09:11.520 Yeah, absolutely. All right. So lay the land for anyone just joining in like us. You put your kids

00:09:16.520 to the bed, you hop on. Now that the results are getting interesting, some of the early calls,

00:09:20.620 they're states like Kentucky, like if Kentucky went for Harris, there wouldn't be a live stream

00:09:23.560 tonight. So you have kind of those states that are the core. Then you have the states that are

00:09:28.140 the swing states and not just in the swing states but what you want to track is trends so compared

00:09:32.900 to 2020 the safest election of our lifetimes compared to 2020 what's changing are more people

00:09:38.560 coming out to the polls are less are trump voters republican voters are they more energized are they

00:09:43.040 less energized and so i have a graph here this is as of like five minutes ago from the new york times

00:09:47.900 and this is a directional showing directionally blue to the left being democrat red to the right

00:09:54.420 These are the trends right now of counties, how they voted.

00:09:58.400 And you can see all of those red.

00:10:00.380 Those are arrows indicating that these counties compared to 2020.

00:10:04.580 So Trump versus Biden in 2020, Trump to now 2024, that these counties are trending red.

00:10:11.240 I can count maybe, maybe like eight arrows on this screen that are trending blue.

00:10:18.000 That is counties that that compared to their vote in 2020.

00:10:20.960 again the safest election of our lifetime they're trending blue you have here probably i don't know

00:10:27.500 100 150 counties trending red florida went florida's been called for trump it's gone much

00:10:34.000 farther uh than it did in 2020 so it's not like trump won i think he won it by like eight points

00:10:38.240 in 2020 he's won by much more we should make mention praise god amendment three man and

00:10:43.780 amendment four have failed amen in florida three was recreational marijuana correct yes i praise

00:10:49.140 god for that one too amendment four was abortion much more important but uh both of those failed

00:10:53.540 to meet yep 60 threshold which is significant because there's been a number since uh the end

00:10:58.840 of roe v wade there's been a number of abortion initiatives yep even in red states yep so these

00:11:04.020 are where voters petition they get enough signatures it goes to an election and they

00:11:08.040 actually and the general election they get to ask uh do you want this enshrined into the

00:11:13.100 constitution i think of ohio i was a red state and uh voters did pass the proposition yep that

00:11:18.460 enshrined some level of right to access to abortion in ohio but even compared to that i want to say

00:11:23.580 that was 2022 yes in 2022 ohio that measure passed successfully just tonight amendment four in

00:11:31.200 florida did not pass and not meet the requirement and hopefully that's that's part of a trend what

00:11:36.020 you should be seeing here and thinking isn't just isolated on this single turnout did we win did we

00:11:41.300 get more votes right what's the trend where are people going how are people thinking that's what

00:11:46.060 you should be thinking about in the big picture we had trump in 2016 you can kind of think of that

00:11:50.140 we've joked that was the uh a new hope in the star wars that's right you know it's bright

00:11:54.500 everything's awesome i remember when i was like i think i was like a fresh like kind of like

00:11:58.460 romney republican i was like trump he's awesome he's great he's saying good things and then it's

00:12:02.920 the empire strikes back it's 2020 it's a rough four years yep but fitting in with the saga would

00:12:09.040 be uh was probably the best movie in the series though and i will say for right response ministries

00:12:14.740 empire strikes back was uh that that four-year uh leg of the race has been fantastic yeah that

00:12:20.560 is true yeah that's uh the years of plenty um so what's the trend and again based on the image i

00:12:28.620 just showed the trend seems to be trump over performing compared to 2020 you're here right

00:12:34.480 now what am i looking at what's things shaping up trump is doing great and he's over performing

00:12:39.200 compared to 2020 i think he's over performing compared to 2016 yeah it's really possible

00:12:44.500 There was a county, I don't know which one in Florida, it was plus 29 Clinton in 2016.

00:12:49.540 Now, Florida on the whole has actually gone to the right, which I think Ron DeSantis'

00:12:52.820 great leadership has done a good job of that.

00:12:54.760 It was plus 29 in 2016 for Clinton, and it was something like plus 10 for Trump tonight.

00:13:00.120 That's the degree of shifts that we're seeing in some of these electorates.

00:13:03.720 So Deep Red County, excited to vote, getting out to the polls.

00:13:08.360 What we've seen in early voting, what we're even seeing tonight, Democrats stronghold, 0.60

00:13:12.440 black voters that would typically vote democrat they're not as excited 25 in georgia 25 of black 0.57

00:13:19.260 males exit polling shows are voting for trump 25 which is amazing that's if that held yep

00:13:25.920 we'll be calling this by 10 well and part of this i've heard some really insightful commentary part

00:13:30.420 of it is what we're seeing is a shift in the political landscape of um the the uh severing

00:13:35.560 um the separations and the dividing walls uh that historically have been between race are now

00:13:44.520 shifting to being between gender yep um and i actually am very white pilled about that um like

00:13:50.860 i think that that is a very positive development uh that it would be less you know um white versus

00:13:56.100 black you know people of color you know uh going just 100 for democrats you know and and then the 0.81

00:14:02.260 lone bulwark yeah like steven wolf is actually right i mean it's statistically true it's undeniable

00:14:06.520 so white evangelicals as a lone bulwark that has been historic um but what we're now seeing is

00:14:12.500 my prediction is over the next 10 years i think you actually see a more stark divide between men

00:14:17.760 and women than you see between white and black yeah and um and the reason why i see that ultimately

00:14:23.120 the big scheme as a white pill as a um a positive development is because um because i think by the

00:14:29.500 grace of god that men can lead in such a way to eventually uh the hearts and minds of women will

00:14:34.960 be changed um i i really think so um i i'm not uh nearly as confident of uh white people being

00:14:41.960 able to change black people right i am very confident of husbands being able to change

00:14:46.140 wives well nate do you have that graph i'll give you a second to pull it up young men are 0.80

00:14:49.800 radicalizing yes they are women are getting more liberal you love to see it you love to see it

00:14:53.920 but young men i think uh it was nate i'm not gonna try to pronounce his name pastor in virginia

00:14:58.880 shulman oh yeah yeah he's a great guy and he said uh you have no idea how right-wing young men are

00:15:04.800 yep like all of you that are sitting back and thinking that you have just this look at that

00:15:08.820 graph yeah oh my moderate group of guys if only men voted this is 2020 right so they've had another

00:15:14.720 four years of covid radicalization and everything else so top is if only men voted in the most

00:15:21.200 secure election of our lifetimes trump 326 electoral votes takes it handily if only women

00:15:26.860 voted i guarantee you real quick with the men there you'll see like you know a few blue states

00:15:31.060 i guarantee you um if it was this year 2024 only men voting yeah some of those states would shift

00:15:38.620 to red yep that's 100 go ahead yep no absolutely uh do you have the other graph too that even just

00:15:43.880 shows uh men and women's divergence this wasn't always the case either this is like 2010 2015

00:15:49.200 somebody's asking what my hat says r-e-c-c oh yeah it's one of my friends i won't say his name

00:15:55.600 because he's a fantastic guy.

00:15:59.580 But, you know, like he's involved in some awesome stuff

00:16:03.960 and probably would like to remain anonymous.

00:16:06.360 But anyways, it's a coffee company that he started.

00:16:08.920 Can you guys believe it? 0.96

00:16:09.760 A Christian started a coffee company. 0.98

00:16:13.180 One of millions, but Ranger Essentials.

00:16:17.440 Feel free to check it out.

00:16:18.260 Rangers Essentials Coffee Company, R-E-C-C.

00:16:21.320 He closed it down.

00:16:22.280 Oh, he closed it down, bummer.

00:16:23.460 He did a great job, but I get it.

00:16:26.040 It's hard.

00:16:26.760 It's hard to, let's just say that the market is saturated when it comes to coffee.

00:16:34.740 Oh, got to do a quick shout out. 0.81

00:16:36.820 We've got Southern Stalwart in the chat. 0.99

00:16:40.940 Southern Stalwart.

00:16:41.940 That's kidding.

00:16:42.460 I'll be watching.

00:16:43.420 I'm watching you in the chat right now.

00:16:44.860 So feel free to let me know.

00:16:46.260 Are you, I mean, you've got your picture, but are you anonymous?

00:16:48.680 If I say your name, I don't want to get you into any trouble, but Southern Stalwart.

00:16:53.460 great friend he was a member of our church for uh since the very beginning on the couch in my

00:16:57.780 living room and then i ended up moving to tennessee who could blame him yeah his family's

00:17:02.240 there his wife's family's there but he's uh gosh one of the best christian men that i know yes

00:17:07.800 great guy okay oh real quick just to let you guys know so we're gonna have some visitors come on yes

00:17:12.260 we are we've got cj wants us to say we're gonna try to have Nate wants yeah so so we're not gonna

00:17:17.980 try we're going to do it it's going to be perfect and if nathan fails you're done you are dead to

00:17:23.340 me um okay so uh just kidding we love nate uh and lord knows i can't do anything about him there was

00:17:29.080 it was funny i saw a meme going around uh from some of my uh detractors on uh x the other day

00:17:34.740 it was a picture of me in front of all these different computer screens and it was like uh

00:17:38.460 there's a right response from his command center on twitter and uh and nathan like texted to me 0.94

00:17:43.540 and immediately he said like uh your your enemies uh have no idea how technologically ignorant you

00:17:50.460 you couldn't do this in a million years even if you tried yep um okay let's give a quick

00:17:56.460 electoral college update well real quick what i was gonna say we're gonna try have some guys on

00:17:59.980 here here's some of the guys so andrew isker and cj we're thinking about doing a joint thing they're

00:18:03.780 doing their live stream i think they've been at it for like 17 hours uh but you know uh just you

00:18:08.700 know the more the merrier you know just a happy party so they would be streaming so on their

00:18:12.280 platform feel free to leave their platform of course and come over and watch our platform

00:18:16.320 uh but so we're probably going to try to get uh isker and cj in the mix a little bit later we've

00:18:21.880 got steven wolf on standby um and so he's he's gonna uh hop in we've got uh the christian prince

00:18:28.260 donald trump just kidding the christian prince the real one dusty deavers um he's gonna hop on

00:18:33.480 so you may see me throughout the stream i'm like the chats are blowing up as i'm sure uh for all

00:18:38.720 of you guys and so um so anyway so i'm gonna be making phone calls off and on and luckily i've

00:18:43.360 got michael and wes and they're both smarter than i am so we're we're in good hands by the

00:18:47.240 way gondor's plumber wants you to tell uh andrew to stop blackpilling so wait isker's blackpilling

00:18:52.940 that's what gondor's plumber says cj was whitepilling and andrew was blackpilling weird

00:18:57.440 what is happening you can't white pill for years on end and not have a week or a day or a moment 0.94

00:19:02.560 isker has been whitepilling since uh since he was a a ignorant normie libertarian all the way back 0.96

00:19:09.460 in like 2011 um and now you're black when it was actually so over it was 2011 right yeah 0.96

00:19:15.940 romney ryan yeah yeah oh man romney those were dark days jeb bushes yeah um yeah so it's good 0.58

00:19:21.480 get it together dude uh we believe in you pull it together if cj can white pill cj is the most 0.67

00:19:26.060 pessimist he's brilliant that's the problem is that's why he's black with much with much wisdom 0.94

00:19:30.540 comes much sorrow you know king solomon said that uh cj is just smart enough to be miserable every 0.86

00:19:35.980 single day of his life i i feel terrible for him yeah meanwhile you know isker and me are over here

00:19:41.140 and we're like hey everything's great so cj's drinking perrier or perrier and we're drinking

00:19:46.020 bourbons so there might be there's a correlation uh cameron stevenson yes i was there did uh did

00:19:52.280 uh did we get southern stalwart say whether or not i can drop his name he just said he loves us

00:19:57.400 okay all right whatever he's deep undercover he's doing the lower work all right we won't say his

00:20:01.800 name but uh great guy follow him on x uh if you get a chance real quick dane robert says joel how's

00:20:06.880 the baby um the the baby knew that uh she's a sweetheart from the womb absolute sweetheart

00:20:13.060 she knew that her dad was in trouble and so she decided to uh hang out with mom inside the womb

00:20:17.900 a little bit longer let dad get out of trouble and uh hopefully we'll see her in the next couple

00:20:21.780 days when trump hits 270 electoral votes the water's gonna break yeah exactly she's gonna be

00:20:25.620 Like, it's time.

00:20:26.540 That's it.

00:20:27.140 That's what she's waiting for.

00:20:28.400 Due date was Friday.

00:20:29.900 It's now Tuesday. 1.00

00:20:31.880 My wife is usually pretty on time, like the German freight trains, right? 0.74

00:20:36.740 She's just right on schedule.

00:20:37.660 But we did have our second-born, Ruth.

00:20:42.960 She was one week late, and there were claw marks on the inside of the womb.

00:20:48.760 She was one week late.

00:20:50.600 So it is possible. 0.85

00:20:51.640 There's a precedent that little Ruthie girl set for us.

00:20:54.380 so uh we could go all the way up to friday was one of your daughter's birthday around november

00:20:58.560 like right on election day so olive was uh on the lord's day uh november 3rd uh when it fallen on

00:21:05.160 uh the lord's day you know it's like um and she she was a good sport about it because she loves

00:21:09.460 jesus she's uh just turned seven she's been baptized and uh and she woke up and uh mom and

00:21:15.400 dad said we do every week we said happy lord's day and uh and we sang a quick hymn and then we said

00:21:21.940 and happy birthday and then we started opening some presents nice okay i gotta give a shout out

00:21:26.960 to nolan he specifically requested one in the chat and here nolan from church nolan from church oh

00:21:32.140 god bless him we love nolan uh all right nolan was so funny on sunday him and another guy i don't

00:21:37.960 know if he wants me to share his name but two of the guys in the church uh one one is uh he's half

00:21:42.260 black half white and then nolan he's he's as is uh as white as as you could possibly be uh but uh

00:21:48.680 both of them are in inter-ethnic marriages and uh nolan his wife is brazilian and um and so but

00:21:54.740 both of them came up to me and they were laughing they're like um like joel do you want us to come

00:21:58.440 up uh with our wife and kids in the middle of the sermon this sunday just just everybody you know

00:22:03.080 all the detractors could be horrified oh we thought we had him accidentally pans the crowd with the

00:22:08.100 camera yeah yeah yeah um uh good to see you no thanks for coming on okay all right let's do an

00:22:12.540 electoral college vote update um so nate you can just pull up i think the cnn skirt stream

00:22:17.360 different groups will based on their algorithms based on the counties that are still outstanding

00:22:21.940 they'll call it differently so right now as it stands new york times for example trump has

00:22:27.280 confirmed secured 177 electoral votes kamala harris has secured 99 this cnn stream shows trump at 154

00:22:36.560 kamala harris at 30 uh some of the big ones that are forthcoming would be new jersey kamala harris

00:22:42.600 appears to have won by nine percent some outlets are beginning to call virginia for kamala harris

00:22:48.740 uh this one's really close and this is a bellwether this is how you know i think we're in for a good

00:22:53.260 night yeah virginia is not a swing state it's not supposed to be close and now uh crazy dude we could

00:22:58.200 win virginia that's so cool some let's go some groups are projecting it to go to harris but it's

00:23:03.700 close and even in being close yep that's that's really the victory that's already a victory um so

00:23:08.900 So Virginia, some groups are calling for Harris.

00:23:10.920 Illinois, big surprise.

00:23:12.320 That went for Harris.

00:23:13.320 Trump's locked up.

00:23:14.160 North Dakota, South Dakota, Wyoming, all two electoral college votes there.

00:23:19.340 Nebraska.

00:23:20.200 Calling Stephen Wolf.

00:23:21.560 Oh, coming on.

00:23:22.760 Got him on speed dial.

00:23:23.720 He's coming in hot.

00:23:24.540 In Georgia, Georgia's a key swing state.

00:23:26.640 73% of the vote is in.

00:23:28.040 Donald Trump leads 53% to 47%.

00:23:31.120 My guy, I'm live streaming right now.

00:23:33.100 And most of Atlanta's in.

00:23:35.320 Okay, most of Atlanta's in, which is huge.

00:23:37.620 and we called this out earlier black turnout does appear to be down they're not excited to vote for

00:23:42.320 her i don't know if you remember uh donald or uh barack obama yeah he's lecturing the black men

00:23:49.000 he's like some of you brothers you're not very excited to vote for her so if that holds that's

00:23:54.180 um that's really bad for the campaign yep north carolina 51 of the vote in so a little bit less

00:24:00.740 uh trump 51 percent kamala 48 but that's been going because the way they started the counting

00:24:08.020 she was up like 60 to 40 or something like that so it's it's going the exact opposite way like

00:24:13.900 he's just been rising for the last hour hour and a half or so great so uh good buddy just said in

00:24:19.540 the chat 75 of atlanta is in so okay there's not too much left of atlanta within the largest state

00:24:25.000 of georgia and that's the bluest and that would be the bluest so there are here's the thing it's

00:24:29.080 important to remember there's no such thing in in all 50 states there's not one uh blue state

00:24:33.160 there are only blue cities right that's true yeah like that's and like you guys have probably heard

00:24:37.900 me talk about this before are you uh remember the the concept we talked about a few weeks back

00:24:41.560 iq uh iq shredders yes uh well in the same way that there are iq shredders big cities um i think

00:24:47.800 that it also plays it doesn't just shred your mind but it shreds your soul yeah and there are

00:24:51.820 soul shredders and the concept just to say it really quick is uh basically um it's a you know

00:24:57.480 it's a it's a practical but also like um has biological implications uh to it but the argument

00:25:02.660 is just saying that the highest iq people um tend to gravitate towards cities cities tend to be very

00:25:08.860 progressive and liberal in their politics and their culture and they gravitate there because

00:25:13.240 they're an engineer or they're in software right and so you're gonna you know you're gonna live in

00:25:17.700 austin you know or you're gonna live in san francisco you know or they're um musicians you

00:25:22.500 know like nathan's big brother um is uh my nathan's my cousin so it's you know my cousin um just

00:25:28.780 brilliant fantastic talented uh wonderful guy um and he's you know phd and uh in piano performance

00:25:35.880 and it but it's like if you're going to be playing piano um and and accompanying you know symphonies

00:25:41.460 and things like that which is what he does um on a very high level uh you're not going to live in

00:25:46.660 oklahoma you know so you're going to go to these you know these um it's not so much states it's

00:25:51.320 cities. You're going to go to cities, big cities, New York, San Francisco, places where there's a

00:25:56.900 symphony. And so people head there for jobs, they head there for vocation, they head there for

00:26:00.440 universities, right? Some of the most prestigious universities in the country. And they also head

00:26:05.940 there for cuisine and food and culture and arts and opera and symphony and all these different

00:26:12.740 things. So it takes your best and your brightest, brings them into a city where they are

00:26:20.380 propagandized they are um constantly uh being pushed culturally and politically and spiritually

00:26:27.520 even uh towards like even if they find a church it's probably a liberal church you know all those

00:26:32.060 kinds of things um and and then what ends up happening is that they uh it's not just the

00:26:37.120 spiritual side but on the biological side uh they often end up in a lifestyle where they uh they

00:26:43.860 don't have children they don't have children like they they don't finish school until they're 30

00:26:48.700 years old, you know, and they have residencies and all this kind of stuff. And then they're

00:26:51.760 working on their career. Now they're 40, you know, and a lot of times they don't even get married.

00:26:55.880 And if they do get married by the time they're there, it's too late to have children. So your

00:26:59.200 best and your brightest, highest IQ people actually are not producing children. And so the IQ

00:27:04.540 shredder of cities, that's the concept. And it's basically, and you can track this as a nation,

00:27:10.940 IQ has gone down in recent decades. And that's part of it is because your brightest people

00:27:16.500 are the ones who are most susceptible

00:27:19.040 towards the lie of children being a burden

00:27:21.320 and standing in the way of a career.

00:27:22.860 So your brightest people aren't procreating.

00:27:25.640 They're not reproducing.

00:27:26.880 And in the same way that cities,

00:27:28.380 there's no blue states, there's only blue cities.

00:27:30.280 In the same way that cities function as an IQ shredder,

00:27:32.940 they also, I think, very much function

00:27:35.180 as a morality soul shredder.

00:27:37.600 And so cities have been the problem.

00:27:41.640 There really is not such a thing as a blue state.

00:27:44.360 And so it's really, in many ways,

00:27:45.740 It's not black versus white as much as it has been voting-wise, politically-wise in the past. 0.70

00:27:52.180 It's becoming man versus woman.

00:27:54.540 And at the geographic level, it's cities versus rural.

00:27:58.400 People that touch grass versus people that don't.

00:28:00.360 Yes.

00:28:00.800 Breaking news.

00:28:01.700 North Carolina has been called for Trump.

00:28:03.320 All right.

00:28:03.800 Which is awesome.

00:28:04.520 Let's go.

00:28:04.980 Trump needs to win.

00:28:05.760 He needs to win the Sun Belt.

00:28:07.000 So this is Georgia.

00:28:08.100 This is North Carolina, Arizona, Nevada.

00:28:10.400 Everything's looking good there.

00:28:11.340 Yep.

00:28:11.520 And then he has to pick off either Pennsylvania or Wisconsin and Mission in some combination, and that will get him over.

00:28:17.540 The hard thing about Pennsylvania is we're probably not going to know because they had several polling locations in very red counties that had major tech glitches, and the whole system was shut down for several hours today.

00:28:29.200 I think they switched to paper ballots.

00:28:30.760 Yeah, and they extended the—well, some of them they said you can write the paper ballots and we can submit it to the courthouse.

00:28:36.340 Some of them just waited and they got it fixed.

00:28:37.860 But they extended the polling hours until 10 o'clock p.m.

00:28:41.700 It was 7 o'clock p.m.

00:28:43.360 And so at least in those counties, which could figure heavily because they're deep red counties, they might not even be done with the polls until 10 o'clock p.m. Eastern time.

00:28:52.660 Someone had a comment.

00:28:53.760 Why can't we all count like Florida?

00:28:55.480 Florida is an example of good, strong male leadership. 0.78

00:28:59.380 I saw a tweet earlier, and not to counteract your point, but it was the lady who's running the counting for the state.

00:29:06.500 And she said, it's nine o'clock, Florida's done counting, every state can do this, it's

00:29:12.660 just a choice that they make not to do it this way.

00:29:15.360 Wolf just texted, he's ready.

00:29:16.820 All right.

00:29:18.800 Yep.

00:29:19.240 Nate, we got him?

00:29:21.100 Nope.

00:29:23.220 Well, he just texted me that he's ready, but we're talking about Stephen Wolf.

00:29:27.200 You guys, most of you probably don't know, you know Stephen Wolf, the PhD and author

00:29:31.680 of The Case for Christian Nationalism.

00:29:33.160 And what you don't know is Stephen Wolfe, the other side of him, who lives on a farm and herds goats and builds sheds in the backyard with his boys and shoots guns and also will probably struggle to hop on a live show.

00:29:44.620 I was going to say, Joel and Stephen Wolfe are kindred spirits in this way.

00:29:48.520 We are kindred spirits in our ignorance of technology and sadly for me, not kindred spirits in our brilliance and having a PhD in political philosophy.

00:30:03.160 all right all right all right all right on it i was gonna say though florida great male but i

00:30:10.380 republican leadership and the state itself it's not just like he's done a good job and the state's

00:30:15.300 just been kind of like steady red it's shifted dramatically it used to be like the closest state

00:30:21.180 every year all the money was dumped by both campaigns into that state and it was pretty

00:30:27.580 much like every other election cycle it went democrat or republican 2000s right the hanging

00:30:32.260 chad thing the dimple chads the hanging i mean they get like three hurricanes a week yep the

00:30:36.460 bridges are like back like they get knocked over 24 hours they're back up florida is an example

00:30:40.900 like you do not have to live in incompetency here we go here we go

00:30:47.080 all right okay one of the great uh christian princes steven wolf he won there was a straw

00:30:55.460 poll someone did on twitter oh he did he won and he was selected did it come down to a wolf versus

00:31:00.280 wolf it was wolf wolf and dusty deavers ah that makes three of them dusty here and die yep yep

00:31:07.240 all right what is any more updates i'll throw this stat out there which is really interesting

00:31:14.380 go for trump according to exit polling so this is not the final numbers but according to exit

00:31:18.320 polling trump has set the record for the most the highest percentage of hispanic voters in gop 0.95

00:31:24.000 history all that while running on a platform of deporting all the illegal immigrants because they

00:31:31.460 want the people that have not done it they do right and done it right that's that's a little

00:31:36.600 generous with the terminology yes but they recognize that people just pouring over the

00:31:40.680 border with no connection not even able to work to rent this ever the other is destructive not

00:31:45.760 just to other people the other countrymen yep to them themselves yep yep yep it's true and um this

00:31:52.680 is, according to Steve Dace, Bush set the record before that, W, 44% in 2004. And that

00:32:00.480 was a massive win. The GOP won the popular vote that year, too.

00:32:06.220 Nice. All right. Here we go.

00:32:13.140 Mr. Wolf. Dr. Wolf. I apologize. I'm so sorry. Can you hear us?

00:32:19.360 i can't i oh nathan we don't have earphones but no my fault my fault oh there we go

00:32:26.600 okay i can hear you now all right just talk for a second steven what what you can hear me

00:32:37.280 oh yeah i can hear you yep you're good background but yeah yeah i i called you mr wolf instead of

00:32:42.940 dr wolf but now i'm remembering that um i think it's only the libs that you that you make use

00:32:48.060 uh the doctor title right yeah that's right that's right okay yeah cool how are you doing

00:32:53.700 call me steven and uh and yeah the enemy call me doctor amen that was so funny dude the mother

00:33:01.020 jones article did you end up reading it the one with that had like me and you and william and

00:33:05.500 everybody oh yeah did you read it yeah it was so funny when they quoted you the journalist

00:33:10.960 and like i talked to uh this is how you know they're like this is how ridiculous these uh

00:33:15.240 these you know uh far alt-right you know men are uh i talked to uh steven he said that uh he would

00:33:21.940 only uh take an interview if i if i agreed to call him dr wolf who is an expert on christian

00:33:28.080 nationalism i've done that i think i've done that with like four or five journalists and she's the

00:33:36.020 only one who said yes um you didn't actually meet the deal though because she only said it once and

00:33:42.760 it was only basically but but yeah actually i was surprised she replied back and said okay i'll do

00:33:49.340 that and i was like well now i'm stuck i said i'd do it a few that's the only reason why i took that

00:33:56.820 interview was because of that yeah yeah i i like a hilarious interview so i was like you know so

00:34:03.080 i'm glad that i did i kind of wish i rambled on about like sophocles or like aristotle or something

00:34:09.120 like that but i'll do that next time next journalist lecture and like you know aerosol

00:34:14.300 beautiful i um yeah i i refused the interview they reached out to me and asked and um

00:34:20.480 and then i got like a an email the day that they were about to publish and said this is your last

00:34:25.500 i got multiple emails and i kept ignoring them and this is your last time to correct the record

00:34:29.640 you know uh i'm we're gonna print this you know blah blah blah blah blah and um and and so i you

00:34:35.660 know i i gave my clarifying answers but um but the truth i gave them the truth but the truth was uh

00:34:41.260 what they had seen in clips like uh they're like is this really your position in my position on

00:34:45.740 all four of their questions was actually worse than what they thought so they're like you don't

00:34:51.300 actually think that uh you know that uh women shouldn't vote do you and i was like um well

00:34:55.520 yes i absolutely do so anyways it was funny cool so how are you feeling do you feel uh 0.99

00:35:02.200 white-pilled are you black-pilled what were you thinking no it's white pill all the way even

00:35:06.860 okay so there is a there's a site i don't know if you guys have been showing it but they're the

00:35:11.980 new york times of all places has the best like metric on their website best set of metrics

00:35:19.520 and even the new york times right now is predicting so it's like an overall victory i don't know how

00:35:25.020 they put the data together and all that but they're saying that right now essentially trump

00:35:29.240 is in it to win like on the little indicator thing says says that it's leaning to trump and

00:35:34.480 it's been moving that way since i opened about an hour ago so and now it's predicting 287 for

00:35:41.480 his electoral votes his uh points 27 and i think uh let's see i have it right here

00:35:49.000 went from too close to call to lean trump and then to uh yep 284 uh electoral college with

00:35:54.880 they're projecting nice now i only a little bit because i watched this they had actually i thought

00:36:00.680 a better one in 2016 and uh i remember watching it started off as like 90 for hillary and it

00:36:10.660 slowly over an hour just did one of these things a little little meter thing and it went all the

00:36:16.420 way 90 to trump and i was just like losing my mind because i was a you know i've been a i've

00:36:21.120 been a, I'm a three-time Trump voter, uh, supporter from the beginning. So, um, so yeah,

00:36:26.840 it was amazing. Yeah. And I, well, you know, what's great about that day? If I, I just give

00:36:31.260 a little story is my father was like a hardcore Trump fan, like the sort of guy who has like a

00:36:37.100 Trump hat in every room just in case he needs to put it on for some reason. And he was absolutely

00:36:41.740 that, that kind of guy. And I was in Louisiana at the time and he was in California and I called

00:36:47.380 to him and and he was just in shock i was in shock he like teared up and was so excited it was one of

00:36:53.380 those like moments of father son where we was just a wonderful little moment so um yeah he he would

00:37:01.740 definitely be he'd have twice the trump hats right now so it's pretty great to see trump winning

00:37:07.560 did he pass away he's he's no longer with us yeah he yeah he did about about year and a half ago so

00:37:13.340 okay um real real quick what um give us three reasons um why you voted for trump

00:37:21.060 how do you see it what are the biggest things christians should be thinking about like this is

00:37:26.580 why you needed to vote for trump yeah i mean one would be immigration uh that's kind of obvious

00:37:34.200 the other one would be foreign policy so um that's a big one and the third one is probably more i

00:37:40.420 don't know phil soft i suppose but he he i i see trump as like apart from the man he's like type

00:37:46.500 of event in history you know kind of like this might be exaggerated but kind of like the french

00:37:51.560 revolution sort of thing that it opened up like a lot of bad ways you know but it's it changed the

00:37:57.440 course of history and it opened up all these possibilities liberalism other things you know

00:38:02.440 so some things that are bad but but it was the sort of thing you you you reinterpret over time

00:38:07.460 um and uh i think trump is that as the man is going to be this figure who's interpreted

00:38:13.740 for a century or two centuries from now or more as like uh someone who's shaped history which is

00:38:20.880 very ironic given it's you know it's trump it's got it's one of those weird like funny ironies

00:38:25.960 um but i think because of him in 2016 like he opened up the possibility to think outside of

00:38:33.600 the mainstream mainstream conservatism that was locked in a type of reaganism but but but more

00:38:40.740 than that like a more of a post uh soviet type conservative liberalism exemplified in george

00:38:46.880 bush and mitt romney and sean mccain uh and he shattered all that and that's why i think he

00:38:54.400 his victory in 2016 was um opened up the doors for people like you and myself and myself to

00:39:03.380 to say things uh and to argue for ideas that are not new but old but he just made that possible

00:39:10.460 so i think a third term even more could is part of that overall movement so that's my third reason

00:39:16.300 that's great go ahead uh steven i we were talking uh ron mcintyre he had a great episode

00:39:21.740 nationalism is on the rise not just here like if trump wins tonight and it's a resounding blowout

00:39:27.500 i know he hasn't ran on an explicit explicitly nationalistic program which you could talk about

00:39:32.700 like it seems like uh like the alternative for deutschland party out in europe that's gaining

00:39:36.500 ground uh russia i mean they were they were communists the wall falls in 89 they're a full

00:39:42.060 blown nationalistic uh they banned lgbtq groups as terrorist organizations so it seems almost

00:39:47.660 globally there's a move and a swing towards nationalism uh i don't know if you could speak

00:39:53.300 to that or what you would say if you're seeing the same thing or there's some caveats there

00:39:56.280 there certainly is like a reaction uh going on and that's why uh the the the far right

00:40:04.220 well i say far right but the the right wing party from uh marine le pen in france i forget they

00:40:09.840 changed their name i don't know what it's called now but that's gaining ground and a significant

00:40:13.700 force as you said uh the what is alternative for germany um or uh what is it uh well what's their

00:40:20.700 acronym i forget now but afd afd thank you they are a significant force in in germany and other

00:40:29.100 places as well so i mean even in like england you have uh you have the the what is it called

00:40:34.360 the reform party has caused some trouble as well yes um in england and so yeah there is this rise

00:40:41.000 of uh it certainly is a reaction to mass immigration largely i think that's the main reason and he

00:40:48.720 mentioned hungary as well so hungary is a very much a working class response to immigration

00:40:54.820 because they they uh they want to maintain their wages they know that the immigration depresses

00:41:02.020 wages so that that's like that's why hungary has a right-wing part uh right-wing power um but yeah

00:41:07.560 in the u.s as well we're seeing a similar uh reaction and it is a type of nationalism and

00:41:12.980 it's exemplified in like in someone in jd vance i mean some of his rhetoric you never you don't

00:41:18.700 hear stuff like that in mainstream politics his idea of a home the idea that people would fight

00:41:24.720 for a home not for ideas um that it's that the america is a place with a people and a history

00:41:31.120 he even talked about on joe rogan just the other night remember uh uh towards the end of the

00:41:36.600 interview with joe rogan he mentioned the post-war consensus yeah did you hear vance uh talking about

00:41:41.840 that yeah so that's making it through um which is so interesting that that comes from rusty

00:41:48.540 he's our guy yeah like that comes from rusty reno and uh it's now it's like a protestant

00:41:54.740 thing that's making its way in the new right i really think that jd vance is connected to

00:42:00.520 the new right in ways that like in the the left says this and i think they're right like he is

00:42:05.320 He's connected and he's influenced by that crowd, maybe more of a Roman Catholic crowd, but still he's influenced in that way.

00:42:15.780 So that kind of rhetoric is, I mean, you can call it nationalism, I don't know, whatever you want to call it, but the emphasis away from ideas that were an economic zone and more towards where people in a place, that is something occurring all across the world.

00:42:33.620 And in Europe, that sort of stuff was kind of natural to them in a way.

00:42:37.540 But in America, I mean, you just listen to the rhetoric of Reagan from the 80s and his speeches.

00:42:43.460 And he's he's more emphasizing that people come here and it's an idea and they can and they can be one of us and they contribute economically.

00:42:51.220 It's as if the the the pilgrims came here for economic freedom as opposed to founding a place where they can worship God.

00:43:00.120 but now that is being rejected and the type of reaganism might have served us well in the 80s

00:43:06.360 like perhaps um but uh but now that's all uh starting to change and i think if you know trump

00:43:12.760 wins and i expect him trump to win vance is like the successor to to trump and and uh so we'll see

00:43:19.720 he's most likely going to be a president or at least run right yeah i was just gonna say like

00:43:26.440 if nothing else you know if four years of you know the last four years of biden harris um it'll

00:43:33.120 have all been worth it if it means that um that we get you know our eight years of trump followed

00:43:39.140 by you know eight years of vance instead of um right four or eight years of uh of pence i mean

00:43:46.760 yep mike pence just perfectly embodies you know you're just you're you're boomer con um it's it's

00:43:53.860 the lip service that evangelicals have supported for decade after decade after decade of giving

00:44:01.220 lip service to the things that evangelicals want and rightly want, like the end of abortion and

00:44:07.760 those kinds of things. But there's not action. Like these guys, all these guys, they were hiding

00:44:14.980 behind Roe. Now that Roe's actually gone, these guys aren't going for the jugular. They're not

00:44:20.400 making any headway. If you felt comfortable voting for George Bush, then you should have

00:44:25.420 no problem voting for Trump. If you got out there and voted for Romney, you should vote for Trump.

00:44:31.600 And so I think, if nothing else, in God's providence and kindness towards us, which we

00:44:36.560 don't deserve, the last four years allowed us just to switch up the team a little bit to get

00:44:42.640 a second term of Trump, but with a better administration. And I do think that Vance

00:44:50.800 is our guy. I think he's following some of us, honestly. And here's the thing.

00:44:57.260 It's not just that we think it, our enemies think it. And I love, like one of my consistent

00:45:02.200 prayers, you know, wake up in the morning, I say, God, what our enemies are saying in your

00:45:08.260 kindness, make it true. You know, make Trump the man that our enemies think he is, you know, and

00:45:14.460 Mother Jones, you know, like, this is what you got to understand the Theo bros, understand JD Vance,

00:45:19.000 you know, he's best friends, you know, with Nate Fisher, and he's reading, you know, the case for

00:45:24.200 Christian nationalism by Wolf. And I think I saw him playing poker the other night, you know,

00:45:28.560 with Joel Webin, and I'm just sitting here and I'm like, well, make it true, God. Make it true.

00:45:34.820 go ahead were you gonna say something i i can say that um yeah that there

00:45:42.840 you know our separation from vance is not is not that far um i i can't say that he listens to us

00:45:51.260 or you or reads me or anything like that but i think the within the network of friends um in the

00:45:56.860 kind of new right uh you know network i think he's he's connected to that so so that that's

00:46:04.800 And in this way, though, the left, I think the left is right, that they're correct, that there is a, you know, that there is a right wing movement and it is influencing people, including people of power, especially younger people who are largely rejecting.

00:46:21.880 I mean, another thing about Trump, again, is like he opened up the possibility that we can get over the kind of George Bush mentality of conservatism.

00:46:30.640 Like he got over that. And now younger people who are not stuck in the ways of the rhetoric of television and what they learned from the 80s.

00:46:38.380 Now they can actually adopt ideas that, again, are older and kind of predate Reagan that are American.

00:46:47.100 But now they're possible. Now you can affirm them.

00:46:49.300 And, you know, next 10, 20 years, we're going to see them even more as these guys who are wisely maybe keeping their head down eventually pop up and do great things.

00:46:58.720 Absolutely.

00:46:59.920 Go ahead.

00:47:01.040 Stephen, I have a question that's in kind of a couple parts.

00:47:04.740 So a couple years ago in one of the articles you wrote about, yes, it's okay to love your nation, you mentioned just the simple idea of fly your flag, right?

00:47:16.140 Don't be afraid to and, in fact, be proud of flying your flag.

00:47:19.300 Secondly, Trump has talked some, although not as recently, about the fact that America's 250th anniversary is right around the corner and that if he were to win, he would throw the biggest celebration and birthday party for America that you can imagine.

00:47:35.720 Thirdly, I saw, I think it was Michael Foster today say on Twitter, that the coalition that's gathering around Trump, while it might be good in the short term, will probably open the door to a secular kind of secular conservatism.

00:47:49.780 I'm curious what you think about the spirit of America.

00:47:53.020 Does Trump embody it?

00:47:54.020 Does he embody parts of it?

00:47:56.140 Is he, because when I listened to him,

00:47:59.300 we played a video at the beginning of the episode

00:48:01.600 of him really speaking highly and loving America.

00:48:05.620 I get the sense that he loves the nation.

00:48:07.460 Does he, is he a person that can help us embody America again?

00:48:11.260 Or is he going to lead us down some potentially secular

00:48:15.540 and maybe unwise paths as we try and regain what America is?

00:48:20.300 yeah i i think there there is the danger yeah that we could i understand where michael foster

00:48:29.960 is coming from there there there is that danger because it's not as if trump kind of

00:48:35.500 exemplifies a type of christian prince i think he he's a type of prince

00:48:39.800 um as i describe it just not a christian one um in in a sense that he has a type of gravitas

00:48:46.380 that inspires people.

00:48:47.800 I mean, you can see the rallies with these people

00:48:50.020 are just kind of rallied behind him

00:48:52.520 and they want to follow him.

00:48:54.780 So he is that kind of figure.

00:48:56.860 And in that way, he opens up,

00:48:58.860 like he opens up the possibility

00:49:00.680 of a Christian prince in the future.

00:49:03.120 But I don't agree with Foster

00:49:05.820 on that Christian nationalism

00:49:08.320 or the kind of Christian new right

00:49:10.300 is going to be drowned out

00:49:12.860 by a type of secular conservatism.

00:49:15.040 I understand the fear of that. But at least for our part, my response would be that the left is going to remain radical.

00:49:23.360 They're still going to control most of the institutions, the media, academia, journalism and other places and a lot of a lot of local and state, you know, appointments and politics.

00:49:32.800 So they're not going to go anywhere. And one of the reasons the new right exists is because of reaction to those guys.

00:49:39.740 and then you add to it the fact that a lot of what we're doing is just trying to recover an old

00:49:44.880 reformed political view or old protestant views and that's just beginning i think i really think

00:49:50.980 we're at the beginning of a new era of uh of protestant thought because we're recovering

00:49:55.820 things that were lost so that that's not going to end um also trump getting elected he still

00:50:01.780 continues to uh because i think that the the mainstream the center right wants trump to lose

00:50:09.340 This is why David French wants him to lose, because they know that he represents a change of conservatism.

00:50:15.920 And if he loses, that means it failed.

00:50:20.420 This is why they wanted him to lose in 2016.

00:50:23.120 This is why him winning was a catastrophe for them, because him winning opened the door, like I said.

00:50:28.720 And him winning this year will also be a type of it will continue that on.

00:50:33.380 So even though I think, you know, things are going to change, I don't think it's going to change a lot of what we're doing. And yeah, I think you're right in a broad sense. He is positive about our country. He positively affirms the history of it and the people.

00:50:49.440 and even though like george w bush did that he did it in a in a way that was economic zone like

00:50:56.900 we're just a powerful economic and we're a force for good in the world and we get taken advantage

00:51:02.000 of and you know as trump says and and uh that but trump is more like we have our own concerns that

00:51:09.180 this is this goes back to the early 90s with pat pucannon pat pucannon said look we defeated the

00:51:14.140 soviets um we should disengage from the world uh stop trying to be don't beat the policeman of the

00:51:20.180 world don't try to liberalize the world we got our own issues here and we have a culture war

00:51:25.820 happening now and he was absolutely right but instead i mean we had clinton largely did police

00:51:32.560 policing the world of course george bush did that that's what mit romney and and mccain wanted to do

00:51:37.660 And Obama essentially continued Bush's policies. So that's what we had. But now Trump is different. Now it's like we as a people, as Americans, we need to take care of ourselves and not be not not think as if we are like our mission in life is to invade the world and then invite the world.

00:52:00.080 That's the neocon mantra right there, invade, invite the world. And Trump's the opposite. He says, no, disinvite and don't invade. And that's definitely different.

00:52:12.980 So, you know, to all that being said, yeah, I think Trump reinstills in Americans this love of home and love of place and saying we need to return to looking to ourselves to kind of rebuild what is America and not try to bomb and rebuild other country.

00:52:31.700 Yeah. Real quick, is there an update that you want to give?

00:52:35.000 I was going to say, what does your shirt say? A lot of people are asking.

00:52:37.120 Oh, yeah. What's the bottom of your shirt say?

00:52:38.560 Oh, it says a country of our own.

00:52:42.060 so a country of our own what a novel idea what what brand is that who makes do you know who

00:52:47.620 makes it i don't i don't know i saw it someone shared it on twitter and was like that's a cool

00:52:51.200 shirt i'm gonna get that i think it was swollis william swollis shared it if you guys know that

00:52:55.720 guy he's a good guy yeah yeah nice uh real quick i was gonna say with jd vance uh one other thought

00:53:02.380 that i you know i've had people uh push back and say like yeah but uh like joel you know joel you're

00:53:09.740 normie you're for jd vance uh don't you know that he's uh he's a romanist he's married to a hindu

00:53:16.700 and uh and um and don't you know his connections with peter thiel and uh peter thiel and um and

00:53:24.700 and uh and didn't you see him in the tiny hat you know kissing the wall and um and i'm like

00:53:29.680 i i think like one of the things i'm hoping that christians can maybe

00:53:34.400 begin to grasp is, um, knowing, knowing what time it is, knowing where we're at and, um, and saying,

00:53:41.400 okay, here's the ideal. This is where we're headed. This is how we want to get there. And,

00:53:44.700 you know, or, uh, this is where we want to get, uh, but we need to talk seriously about how to

00:53:49.400 get there. And you have to, um, you have to start from where you are. You can't just end

00:53:53.140 in the final destination. You have to start from where you are. And one of the things that like,

00:53:57.140 you know, that, that I've been thinking is just, uh, like, you know, with, with this election.

00:54:01.360 So I think like 2016, 2020, 2020, 24, the true outcome of the election is every single

00:54:08.800 electoral vote, every single state, ultimately the true winner is Bibby.

00:54:15.740 Bibby always wins American elections, you know, and that's just the reality.

00:54:19.500 That's where we are. 0.96

00:54:21.080 You know, the winner of the election will be Israel.

00:54:23.980 But if the Democrats win, it's going to be Israel and Ukraine.

00:54:27.480 at least at least this way you know i like i'm gonna vote for the guy uh to where israel wins

00:54:31.760 but ukraine at least loses you know like praise god so i think that's like that's where we're at

00:54:36.560 i understand that you know jd vance is a catholic and uh and we can pray and and and ask that the

00:54:41.940 lord would um would would change his heart on some of those things and i understand you know with

00:54:46.220 this why is in terms of her i don't know if she is do you know if she's a practicing hindu i know

00:54:49.980 she was but i don't know if she really is anymore she's indian in terms of her ethnicity but i would

00:54:55.440 imagine that she's probably followed her husband into, into Christian faith. What, what do you

00:55:01.720 think? Well, I don't think she's converted. I don't know if she's a practicing Hindu,

00:55:06.720 but I don't think she's not converted. Okay. All right. So anyways, but my point is like,

00:55:15.120 guys are, you know, concerned about Zionism and those kinds of things. And I'm, I'm no fan of

00:55:18.740 zionism i get in trouble about it fairly often but um but i just that like i just you you tell

00:55:26.080 me if you think i'm wrong but i would just say that the lay of the land right now in the year

00:55:29.400 of our lord 2024 there is no uh serious political candidate at uh the federal level especially not

00:55:35.060 the presidential level that's not going to be um some some form you know uh color or stripe of

00:55:42.520 zionist that's just that's where we're at and so you take the best option that you can

00:55:46.320 and make the political arguments and things change over time what do you think yeah i mean i think 0.94

00:55:52.980 yeah wearing the hat and going to the wall is like a humiliation ritual and it it's uh it's

00:55:57.340 it's uh it's very it's very cringy and and and and frankly idolatrous like no christian should

00:56:05.080 do that um and um but yeah i think you're right though that given the way politics are given the

00:56:12.440 sort of people who fund campaigns then it's absolutely you have to you have to appeal to

00:56:18.620 the the jewish demographic and that's and there's been a lot there's a lot of money

00:56:22.380 um donated not only just not only to trump's campaign but also to the whole stop the steal 0.76

00:56:30.000 2.0 thing so there's been like 140 million dollars given over to make sure that there's no

00:56:36.380 meddling with the election through laws

00:56:39.780 and other decisions.

00:56:41.340 So there's just a lot of money going around.

00:56:43.580 So I mean, yeah, no matter what,

00:56:47.320 they should not do the wailing wall thing.

00:56:50.780 But I understand in terms of in pragmatic politics,

00:56:54.980 what you have to do to at the very least avoid a reaction,

00:57:00.340 if not also to...

00:57:02.760 That's where I'm at.

00:57:03.640 That's what I figured you would say.

00:57:04.900 That's the same position I'm at.

00:57:06.380 um and i i think you know part of the way that maybe is helpful to a helpful way to explain it

00:57:11.720 is that politicians in general this is a generalization but they're more of um

00:57:17.340 they're more of like a thermometer than they are a thermostat you know it's it's more of a so it's

00:57:24.200 like well trump is um changing you know he's retracting and moving left in his rhetoric on

00:57:28.920 the issue of uh the sanctity of life and and i'm not sitting here saying no he's uh he's absolutely

00:57:34.640 pro-life like that that wouldn't be my argument i would say yep you're right um the dude has um

00:57:39.220 has compromised in his rhetoric i'm hoping here's the thing though i have it on good authority

00:57:43.340 steven that uh sometimes politicians lie did you know that sometimes politicians will say something

00:57:48.380 to get elected and then actually govern in a different way so i feel like in 2016 like

00:57:52.720 trump was one every single republican gop guy that we get you know he he campaigns to the right and

00:57:58.140 he governs to the left trump was one of the first guys who like who ran to the left you know he

00:58:02.580 campaign to the left and actually govern to the right. And so I feel like there's no reason to

00:58:06.480 think that he wouldn't do that again. In some ways, he might even do it harder, because he's

00:58:10.780 not up for re-election, you know, and some of the blockades aren't there anymore. I think he'll

00:58:15.920 definitely govern further to the right than he did his first term on immigration and on foreign

00:58:20.580 policy. On the issue of life, though, sadly, nobody's happy about this, certainly not Christians, 0.63

00:58:27.300 but i think you know that trump is much more of uh the thermostat than he is um or the thermometer

00:58:33.280 than he is the thermostat he's he's um he's measuring that he's a measure of the temperature

00:58:38.320 he's not setting the temperature and uh and and what we're seeing is that america people just

00:58:44.280 you have to come to terms with it you certainly don't need to like it and and you certainly have

00:58:48.480 to give everything you got to push back against it but you have to acknowledge it is what i'm

00:58:53.120 saying when i say come to terms i don't i don't mean accept it but acknowledge it as we fight

00:58:57.420 against it america loves her some abortion my goodness this country we our country loves abortion

00:59:05.060 and and i and you just at at the current you know discourse the lay of the land as as it stands

00:59:11.520 today um you you don't get a politician who doesn't have to go through the humiliation ritual

00:59:16.980 the idolatrous ritual of wearing the tiny hat and kissing the wall um and and likewise you don't

00:59:23.120 You're not going to get, at least not at the president, people like, well, Dusty Devers, okay, and we're all very proud of Dusty Devers.

00:59:29.900 I think he's going to hop on here in a moment, and Dusty Devers is the man.

00:59:33.080 Love Dusty Devers.

00:59:34.720 But Oklahoma State Senator is a little bit different than President of the United States.

00:59:39.160 It's just, it's a little bit different.

00:59:40.460 And so my hope is that, you know, with a Trump presidency, and especially not just Trump himself, but with a Trump administration, and guys like Vance, and not just Vance, but, I mean, you're talking thousands of people.

00:59:52.100 all the different people that would not be able to touch the levers of power with a 500-foot pole

00:59:57.740 if Kamala got the election. All of a sudden, they get a voice. They get a seat. They get

01:00:06.440 to influence. And so that's my hope, is that Trump, on one hand, he serves as a tourniquet.

01:00:13.280 He stops the bleeding. He buys his time. But I think it's more than just that. I'm a little bit,

01:00:17.200 I don't know. It's election night. I've got a baby coming on the way. I'm stoked about that.

01:00:22.100 got a little bourbon in the glass. And so I'm a little bit more white pill than to say that

01:00:26.120 Trump is merely a tourniquet. Not only is he a tourniquet, Trump is a door. He's not going to

01:00:32.800 go in and fix everything personally himself. But Trump is a door that not only stops the bleeding

01:00:38.980 as a tourniquet, but he also opens a door and allows guys like us to be much more influential

01:00:46.740 than we would be otherwise.

01:00:48.180 And I'm excited about that.

01:00:49.800 Any thoughts or, Wes?

01:00:51.920 We got updates, but I'll let Stephen have the last word.

01:00:54.580 Okay, Stephen, go ahead.

01:00:56.400 Oh, yeah, sure.

01:00:56.820 Yeah, on the abortion thing, I mean,

01:00:59.200 I think one area we haven't on the right thought,

01:01:04.860 commented enough, maybe people have.

01:01:06.800 I don't follow the abortion thing as much

01:01:08.760 just because there's so many people who do.

01:01:10.380 I'd focus on other things.

01:01:12.000 But I think that if you watch the ads 0.59

01:01:15.340 that the democrats have put out it's it's completely a a an exploitation of women's

01:01:20.800 anxieties so you already have a mental health crisis among women um just in general um and 0.98

01:01:27.680 then the democratic party is going to exploit uh the anxieties of women to uh for the abortion

01:01:34.720 issue and so i i do wonder if there's going to be a point where enough is enough and people are

01:01:40.720 going to start reacting against that. I don't know exactly if that's going to happen, but at the very

01:01:45.680 least, I think the right should point out, I mean, the left is morally degenerate, but it might be

01:01:51.560 effective to say, look, these people are playing on your fears, they're exploiting mental health

01:01:58.740 crises, and they are making you unhappy and worse. So I'm hoping that that might be a way to

01:02:07.800 convince some women to vote um on the opposite side i i would say if i could jump back to

01:02:13.480 something else on on israel just to jump back on that um i think that like the the state of israel

01:02:20.980 if if trump treated israel like a geopolitical entity instead of like a the the the holy land

01:02:29.200 with the holy people there but just treat it as a state among states and as a means of a balance

01:02:37.280 of power i mean israel is the only country that can now bomb iran so if iran's aggressive i mean

01:02:43.040 iran is is hated by most of its neighbors so but saudi arabia doesn't want to bomb iran

01:02:49.740 and nor do some of the other arabic countries so israel as a geopolitical matter could actually

01:02:56.500 be a good ally in bringing balance of power to the region so in that sense if if trump treated

01:03:03.080 it like that that would i think be acceptable but treating as like a special sort of group of people

01:03:08.440 that we must die to defend at all costs that's that's obviously going to be a problem so i'm

01:03:13.360 hoping he'll move away from that sort of thing um and just use just treat it as just an ally

01:03:18.180 in a region so that's that's what i'd say about about that if that's helpful yeah no that's super

01:03:24.040 helpful i agree uh we had somebody in the chat uh always gives me a chuckle i appreciate it but uh

01:03:30.120 someone said there sure is a lot of anti-semitism oozing out for a christian channel and then and

01:03:36.660 then all the boys uh in the chat uh hopped on god bless you you know who you are real patriots

01:03:41.480 uh they they hopped on and they're like uh your illegitimate claims of anti-semitism have no power

01:03:47.100 your magic words have lost their power um all right give us an update real quick west and then

01:03:54.360 uh steven you're welcome to stay on with us dusty devers is going to join the party if you want to

01:03:59.060 stay on but if you if you got to get back to you know to your own celebrations we totally understand

01:04:03.860 your call but wes is going to give us a quick update and then you let us know if you want to

01:04:07.340 stay or hang around all right so things are continuing to trend well uh trump has won montana

01:04:12.080 trump has won utah as to be expected there georgia continues to hold for trump the counting slowing

01:04:18.140 down it's about 77 percent reported um i've got 83 percent and 83 percent reported lead by leads

01:04:24.340 by about five percent pennsylvania is going to take a long time i wish it wasn't so but trump

01:04:29.560 has just taken the lead there yep new york times uh steven you were mentioning that earlier they've

01:04:34.600 got trump right now 73 chance of victory yep an estimate of a 288 electoral college and even in

01:04:41.820 the popular vote 0.1 0.1 for harris is about what they're projecting so for what for harris popular

01:04:49.500 vote their estimated margin nationwide is just not even one point point i don't i think point

01:04:56.680 one yeah that's how close they have it wow that's great everything's going good for trump remember

01:05:01.840 though in 2020 yeah this is right about the point so stay vigilant and i know obviously we're not

01:05:07.540 the ones that would do it but the gop is on standby their attorneys their poll watchers

01:05:11.960 this is the point where things out the window shades went up yep the polls closed down the

01:05:17.520 counting stopped people went to resume at 3 a.m uh so stay vigilant uh this is the point these are

01:05:23.040 the next few hours the crucial ones hold leads in pennsylvania he's got the lead in wisconsin as

01:05:28.420 well i believe um yeah 5.5 he's got the lead in wisconsin the lead in pennsylvania still really

01:05:36.500 close in virginia doing really well he has a uh oh it's tightened up but uh literally neck and

01:05:43.640 neck in arizona right now yep so neck and neck in arizona he's winning in iowa winning in new

01:05:49.260 mexico actually which is a potential dark horse candidate that'll change that'll change um so

01:05:54.960 doing good uh we'll see if this continues all right cool uh i think we got dusty deavers on

01:06:00.580 standby oh he's in i don't see him oh there he is the christian prince the deeves deavers you

01:06:08.360 You can't call me that anymore

01:06:09.640 because I lost to Stephen Wolfe.

01:06:14.200 Stephen Wolfe. 1.00

01:06:15.220 They flipped the Baptist home. 0.99

01:06:16.720 Oh, we still have Stephen Wolfe. 0.99

01:06:17.880 There you go.

01:06:18.460 Between the two of you,

01:06:22.760 I'm sure we have at least

01:06:23.840 one Christian prince. 1.00

01:06:24.800 We could call it two. 0.81

01:06:25.880 Princes.

01:06:27.000 That's fine.

01:06:27.740 Northern and Southern states.

01:06:28.820 Right, Stephen, is that allowed?

01:06:30.400 Is that allowed to plural?

01:06:31.960 You know, that's how the Romans

01:06:32.960 did it for a while.

01:06:33.880 So we'll just, you know.

01:06:35.540 Yeah.

01:06:35.980 Not to be confused

01:06:37.080 with Christian princes.

01:06:38.360 princesses i've got four little christian princesses in my home oh dude this is so funny

01:06:45.940 you guys will like this so my kids go to a classical school uh christian classical school

01:06:50.480 and they did like a mock election today and so all the kids were voting and i you know i'm gonna

01:06:55.360 have to talk uh obviously to the head of school because uh he let my daughters vote and uh you

01:07:01.140 guys call yourself a christian school it should have just been the boys voting but uh no i'm just

01:07:04.920 you uh well i'm not really kidding but but anyways so they they all voted and uh my two girls uh one's

01:07:12.160 kindergarten one's first grade uh olive and ruth they came home and uh and we're you know we're

01:07:16.580 out in public and we're like we're celebrating because we're we're completely white-pilled and

01:07:19.680 we just we we believe uh the donald's coming back in and uh and so we uh we're at dinner and uh my

01:07:26.340 girls are like everyone's sitting around us we're in a public restaurant and uh and they're like

01:07:30.520 uh we voted donald trump we voted donald trump and uh and people are like looking over at us

01:07:37.060 and there was like an older couple and they're like they're smiling and gave like a thumbs up

01:07:40.420 to the girls and nathan did you just say i had permission to tell the story okay this is so

01:07:45.280 funny so uh nathan's daughter also goes uh to the school with my girls and she she just didn't know

01:07:51.140 it was an honest mistake but she uh she uh she voted for kamala and uh and so all the kids are

01:07:58.400 like just just tearing into her you know uh and their little mock mock vote thing and giving her

01:08:04.060 uh and so she came home and nathan said she was like uh the most ashamed they've ever seen and

01:08:09.660 she told her mom and dad she was like i didn't mean to mom and dad but i voted for the wicked

01:08:14.140 woman um i voted for her on accident it was an accident and so uh nathan and his wife they ended 0.98

01:08:20.120 up having to do another you know with the family mock election and help her to to uh to color the

01:08:25.660 the circle by donald trump and nathan said that uh his his little princess is feeling much better

01:08:30.560 now so we're okay all right anyways that's the story dusty what are you thinking how are you

01:08:35.320 feeling oh man look polymarket has trump breaking his own records over and over i think they're at

01:08:43.760 85 percent right now uh that he's gonna win i think that's that's pretty much the direction

01:08:49.600 i wouldn't be surprised if it's 312 plus for trump wow that's great yeah yeah dusty okay so

01:08:58.280 you are a christian prince state senator um putting forth uh incredible abolitionist bills

01:09:06.180 long-time abolitionist i'm not going to put you on the spot to say that like you've i think you've

01:09:10.580 navigated all this really well and i and i'm not gonna um i'm not gonna mess up your record

01:09:15.280 here you are at the bottom of the ninth and joel levin's not gonna you know mess it up for you

01:09:19.020 But, so I'm not going to ask you, you know, did you vote or who you voted for, anything like that.

01:09:24.140 I respect your conscience, and I know that's a sensitive topic.

01:09:27.280 But you are friends with many guys who, you know, according to their conscience, guys that I love too.

01:09:33.000 Ben Zysloff, man of God, great guy.

01:09:36.280 I'd love to.

01:09:37.160 Ben Zysloff, I'm going to get right back into GC with him as soon as Trump wins.

01:09:42.040 And Ben Zysloff can stop being insufferable on Twitter.

01:09:46.260 I think he's wrong.

01:09:47.360 and in all fairness, he thinks that I'm absolutely wrong

01:09:50.060 and he loves me and I love him.

01:09:52.240 James Silberman, awesome guy.

01:09:54.460 David Reese, I had him on the show just the other day

01:09:57.020 and we duped it out and he loves me,

01:09:59.640 supports our ministry, I love him.

01:10:02.000 And so for you, I'm not gonna ask you who you voted for,

01:10:04.380 but give me a steel man argument,

01:10:06.820 play the devil's advocate here.

01:10:08.420 For you, even as a staunch abolitionist

01:10:11.240 who's done phenomenal work,

01:10:12.900 if you were gonna vote for Trump

01:10:14.600 or if you were gonna say,

01:10:17.080 well i do think maybe uh if there was give me the best app the closest so you may not even agree

01:10:22.620 with it right let's play hypothetical what's the best abolitionist argument that you could make

01:10:27.840 in a steel man case for why an abolitionist could maybe vote for trump could you do that for me is

01:10:32.760 does that put you in a precarious spot uh no i mean i voted today for sure i'm not gonna not

01:10:39.700 vote uh we have too many uh beyond beyond just the presidential vote we've got too many down

01:10:45.900 down ballot votes that are extremely important in our state. And so I'll just make this kind of

01:10:54.400 like, I said it on Twitter earlier today that Paul says to pray for our rulers and our leaders,

01:11:02.140 that they would lead us to, you know, let us have peaceful lives. And I see that as a means for

01:11:08.980 for orienting people towards our Lord and for continually preaching Christ.

01:11:14.520 And so with that said, can you hear me? Okay. I'm getting a phone call.

01:11:17.920 I should have put it on airplane mode. Can you hear me? Okay. Yes, sir.

01:11:24.060 Okay. Okay. So pray in accordance with what Paul says,

01:11:30.720 and then I think you should vote in accordance with how you pray. Now that doesn't,

01:11:34.260 That doesn't tell you that it's not a total steal, man, but we had several meetings with guys in our church.

01:11:41.400 Guys are on both sides.

01:11:42.380 They're going to vote for Trump because they see a future under him, at least for the next four years.

01:11:47.340 It's going to be a love-your-neighbor issue, that their conscience is bound to, right now, protect their own born children.

01:11:54.900 None of them are going to kill their children in the womb.

01:11:59.360 And they see that probably for them, the most important position is to vote in such a way where we retain our constitutional republic, at least for another four years, and we are able to not see us not have an election in four years.

01:12:18.460 That's part of their argument, and I think retaining the constitutional republic for them is an extremely important position.

01:12:27.060 Otherwise, we move into a total despotic tyranny, and they don't want to see that.

01:12:34.140 So, you know, I understand that position for those guys.

01:12:38.040 On the other hand, the guys are saying, well, look, they're going to make some of the similar arguments about where their conscience leads them and what they see in the scriptures as to the right position to take and why.

01:12:51.060 And look, I'm very sensitive to that.

01:12:53.160 And we as men in our church, we've left it with this.

01:12:57.120 Guys, you have to be eager to maintain the unity of the spirit and the bond of peace.

01:13:01.940 You have to let brotherly love continue.

01:13:03.740 You have to outdo one another in showing honor in how you argue and hold your position.

01:13:11.940 And you have to ultimately be able to come to the Lord's table with each other every Lord's Day without any ought against your brother.

01:13:19.620 Because Jesus says, through the Apostle Paul, Christ is telling us that when we come to the table, we should not have division against the body.

01:13:30.200 And that division is against each other because we are the body of Christ.

01:13:35.420 And if we are going to aim our biggest artillery at brothers in Christ rather than at what we see as the existential threat,

01:13:45.040 it's really not—we are playing into what the devil is attempting to do in dividing the church

01:13:53.020 at a time where we must, you know, hold your positions, but hold them in such a way where

01:13:58.380 you can take the supper together and you're not dividing the body and thereby lying about Christ.

01:14:04.880 Christ is not divided in himself. He's not at odds with himself. He's not at odds with the Father.

01:14:10.440 He and the Father are one by the love of the Spirit. And so have that Spirit that is in the

01:14:17.720 triune God that is the spirit of love between the Father and the Son, have that spirit among you

01:14:24.300 and be eager to maintain that. So, you know, again, that's not going to necessarily win

01:14:31.580 arguments on either side. And I, at the same time, want to say, look, the conscience

01:14:37.060 is not infallible. The conscience must be trained. We're still fallen. Sometimes the

01:14:44.000 conscience can be seared due to sin and due to immaturity. It can just be uneducated or untrained

01:14:51.740 in certain areas. And it can be, it must be trained in accordance with the scriptures and

01:14:57.520 through wise counsel and walking with brothers in Christ in the church. So, you know, the conscience

01:15:04.920 is not infallible. And I hold positions now that I didn't hold five or 10 years ago. And that just

01:15:11.800 means i'm being trained by the word of god and the spirit of god and the brothers and sisters in

01:15:16.120 christ uh through the preaching of the word and you you need to have humility towards others and

01:15:22.400 a humility towards even where your conscience is right now and the conscience of your brothers

01:15:26.560 amen i've got um jacob biller i know that you're friends with him he's a faithful member in our

01:15:33.260 church and uh every lord's day um giving each other a hug taking the supper together uh one 0.67

01:15:39.420 body of christ he thinks that uh that i'm compromised and i think that he's dumb yeah

01:15:43.980 and uh we both love each other we both said it to each other's face and uh and give each other a

01:15:48.440 hug right afterwards and uh he he said publicly just the other day on x he was like uh um said

01:15:54.700 something honoring me you know like so grateful for my pastor and um it can be done it can be done

01:16:00.100 believe it or not you can uh you can actually disagree and love someone so go ahead i was

01:16:04.860 going to say that's the one remedy like online relationships you can keep them but for the local

01:16:09.440 ones where you're with people right every single sunday we come to the same table as you're saying

01:16:13.900 dusty the same bread and the same wine we're equal there where we're told not to bring those

01:16:18.340 grievances not to bring if we have ought against our brother like specifically you got to live in

01:16:23.120 person you got to live in the same county you got to live in the same street you got to attend the

01:16:26.500 same building every single week again unlike relationships with you know pastors that are

01:16:30.560 across the country people that are online even celebrities when you're local that supper is given

01:16:35.620 to keep you together because those are more important than uh than those online relationships

01:16:39.880 yeah that's one of the things that got me in trouble um early on where i upset you know some

01:16:44.720 of the abolitionists was um i'm trying to find it uh because one of the abolitionists um and he did

01:16:51.640 it not not with hostility but um as a courtesy towards me he said uh he messaged me um a week

01:16:58.520 ago or so and said um oh he just said hey man is there any way you could walk uh walk this back a

01:17:06.780 little bit because i'm i'm doing some um some damage control you know behind the scenes with

01:17:11.220 the abolitionist guys and a lot of them really do love you but um they strongly disagree with you

01:17:17.240 and there was one of your tweets early on a few months ago i've i've i've been um i've been trying

01:17:21.380 to be a lot more respectful uh that you know but early on in the in the debate uh something that

01:17:26.100 you tweeted out that just you know some of the guys just can't get over it and and are bothered

01:17:29.820 by it and uh he said um here's the here's the tweet that i put out uh um oh no that's not it

01:17:38.960 um it was basically i can't find it but it was it was basically i said i i support trump because

01:17:47.180 i love my children more than my i love my born children more than i love my uh enemy's unborn

01:17:53.220 children and that you know that definitely provoked uh the abolitionist world um but

01:18:00.340 you know and to clarify that i can't take it back because i meant it um and and i still mean it um

01:18:06.380 but i can flesh it out and clarify it a little bit more um because i think that the natural

01:18:11.320 question that is immediately asked or raised uh from that is uh to what degree so do you like when

01:18:18.200 you say you love your born children more than your enemy's unborn children um are you saying

01:18:23.940 that uh like economically like if your children you know might get a couple extra tax cuts 20

01:18:30.500 years down the line when they're adults you know and uh maybe a little bit more economic ease that

01:18:35.820 you would vote um for for somebody to uh to give a an inch of economic ease for your born children

01:18:43.640 at the cost of the murder of your enemy's children and so i was able to clarify with this guy

01:18:50.320 and say no no no that's not what i'm saying what i'm saying is as far as i see it uh you got two

01:18:55.780 candidates and the death toll for unborn babies sadly if we're talking about numbers in principle

01:19:01.460 there are some distinct principles between lying on a steel table and crying for your mother and

01:19:07.200 left to die versus uh abortion in the womb um they they are both murder uh both images of god

01:19:14.840 but there are in principle those kinds of things do play in but i'm the first guy to be willing to

01:19:19.200 admit in terms of raw numbers of of the lives of children unborn children the difference in numbers

01:19:24.880 between trump and kamala is negligible it really is uh but that's the basis of my argument is in

01:19:30.380 that landscape so i'm not so if kamala on the one hand was like gonna abolish abortion and then

01:19:36.460 trump on the other hand is going to say you can abort all the way up to seven months uh but i'll

01:19:40.820 give uh tax breaks and uh help you know uh help the you know the bottom line of the gdp for uh

01:19:46.700 your kids 20 years down the road well that's that's that's not my point that in that scenario

01:19:51.660 then i'd have to vote for kamala i'm gonna i'm gonna have to vote for children not being murdered

01:19:55.460 but what i'm saying is in um in a world that i think we're currently in our current landscape

01:20:00.000 where um unborn children are uh the the difference uh numerically is negligible between the two

01:20:07.080 candidates um but then but then the other candidate like you said dusty uh holds the republic together

01:20:13.020 um maybe staves off world war three where our sons and daughters daughters which is is wicked

01:20:19.340 in itself would uh would have to to go and die on foreign soil so uh foreign affairs holding off 0.82

01:20:25.740 World War III, stopping a full-blown invasion at our southern border that changes the political

01:20:31.160 and cultural and spiritual landscape of the country forever, where you maybe can't get it 1.00

01:20:35.940 back because of too many illegal immigrants coming into the country. So immigration, foreign affairs, 1.00

01:20:41.300 and then just our republic as it is in all those ways. With the abortion being, again, 0.97

01:20:48.660 in many ways awash, negligible in terms of raw numbers. In that scenario, yes, I am willing to

01:20:56.020 vote for Trump over, not even, of course, it's over Kamala, but over a third party or a write-in

01:21:02.360 or non-vote to send a message because my highest, it's a natural affection argument,

01:21:08.860 my highest moral obligation is, I see it with my conscience, which could be wrong,

01:21:13.140 um is is to my children and not to uh and not to my enemy's children or my neighbor's children

01:21:19.600 that's the last piece is like why why not just call them your neighbors why why call them your

01:21:24.040 enemies um well because people who murder their children are enemies of god they've chosen to be

01:21:29.920 in rebellion against god and the enemies of god are the enemies of god's people uh they are also

01:21:34.460 neighbors so it's not enemy or neighbor the large category is neighbor and then in neighbors there

01:21:40.360 are some of those neighbors are neighbors and brothers and some of those neighbors are neighbors

01:21:44.280 and enemies and that's and that's the language i was trying to use any thoughts on that can i ask

01:21:48.560 you a clarifying question yeah go for it all right when you talk about uh your enemies are

01:21:55.900 you saying that you do that you think that they are beyond the uh beyond salvation that they can't

01:22:04.840 come to christ are you saying that not until they're dead as long as there's breath in their

01:22:09.420 lungs, there's the hope of Jesus Christ that can save a wretch. Yeah, yeah. Well, I think that's 0.68

01:22:14.960 important to make that clarification, distinction, because I think a lot of people, when they hear

01:22:21.040 someone talk about someone as an enemy, they think, well, they are gone. They're too far

01:22:27.520 gone from the gospel. There's no hope for them. And I knew you were going to answer it. 0.99

01:22:33.520 I both know that person, theologically, that category doesn't exist. And in the land of the

01:22:38.400 living until that person goes to meet their maker and breathes their last. That category of an enemy

01:22:45.140 and always an enemy without hope, that's a theological category that doesn't exist.

01:22:50.100 So certainly I don't believe that. Yeah, yeah. Well, that's an important

01:22:54.160 distinction to make. And sometimes, you even said it in one of your posts here very recently,

01:23:01.980 maybe today or yesterday, that sometimes you say things, you're doing long podcasts,

01:23:07.480 And this is part of the danger of of the long form.

01:23:11.160 You end up saying some things that are kind of tongue in cheek, but then they get taken to mean something that you don't.

01:23:17.300 And you don't want to you know, you don't want your argument to die the death of 10,000 qualifications.

01:23:21.860 At the same time, we have to be very careful and make sure that we're clarifying whenever we can without killing an argument and recognizing that we have to be patient with each other on one side and believe the best of a brother.

01:23:42.300 And we really need to be having these conversations about if we hear something that we think is off, really having that conversation with someone behind the scenes, especially because we are not enemies.

01:23:55.020 You know, the abolitionists who have been making these arguments and those who have been making the arguments against abolitionists, it's gotten to such a fever pitch.

01:24:02.560 And it's just it's just at a choke point now, now that it's the day of.

01:24:08.400 I've really been disgusted by a lot of it.

01:24:10.660 And I've told a lot of folks that we have to treat each other with love and brotherly affection,

01:24:18.440 because really, we're not the ones who are going to be the existential threat.

01:24:26.340 We are not the existential threat to each other.

01:24:28.560 And when one hand says, well, this is the path of repentance for our nation,

01:24:33.760 and the other says, well, this is the path of repentance,

01:24:35.920 We're still talking about the path of repentance. We both want repentance. We don't want our enemies to be ultimately away from the preaching of the gospel.

01:24:47.060 That's something that we both need to agree and then posture our arguments toward each other like that and towards like, even though we're not in the same church, we're in the same body, the same universal church.

01:24:59.720 And we've got to be able to argue with each other and make make our positions clear with brotherly affection.

01:25:10.060 Sadly, and you know this, we both know it, but sadly, there are some guys, not all of them, but there are some guys on both sides of the aisle, abolitionists and non abolitionists, that they did get to a fever pitch to such a degree that I you know, we got the hope of the gospel, the biggest white pill there is.

01:25:29.260 so you know god can do anything and so in that sense i am hopeful but at a practical level

01:25:34.200 relational level uh reconciliation for some of these guys is going to be real hard and and and

01:25:39.940 in human terms looks unlikely and that is an absolute uh that's a loss that's an l that's a

01:25:46.120 defeat and um and that's really sad i'm curious and you don't have to you know you're live and

01:25:50.620 you're welcome to disagree with me um initially i came in hot that's kind of my mo sometimes i

01:25:55.840 come in hot uh but over the last few months um what do you think as an abolitionist i've tried to

01:26:01.120 clarify some of my things and treat the abolitionist with respect uh has that gone

01:26:05.820 unnoticed or do you feel like do you feel like um as a guy who you know who's voted for trump

01:26:12.400 um do you feel like uh is there anything you think i could have maybe done better or do you

01:26:18.340 think like i think the abolitionists will be willing to partner with joel again in the future

01:26:22.900 I think that they'll be willing to partner with you for sure. And I think some of this is.

01:26:30.220 It's kind of like in a marriage, even, you know, we have to apologize to our wives more often than we should.

01:26:37.580 And we recognize in the heat of the moment, we allowed ourselves to go places we shouldn't have.

01:26:45.460 And we have to apologize after the fact. I think some of this with this election is going to be like that.

01:26:50.440 I don't think that, again, that our relationships are beyond the gospel, beyond working out the implications of the life, death and resurrection of Christ and his current reign, that he can reconcile us and we can be ambassadors for Christ who are locked arm in arm.

01:27:07.000 And with no you can't slide a piece of paper between us.

01:27:11.100 I think that we can get there.

01:27:12.520 But I do think that that needs to happen.

01:27:14.120 I think initially you said some things that, you know, you probably got caught up in some things.

01:27:20.440 Uh, and I think that you've, you've pulled back on that rhetoric quite a lot.

01:27:26.060 And I think that that's, that's, I think that's been evident from, uh, folks that I know on

01:27:31.520 the abolitionist side, they're recognizing that and they're appreciating that.

01:27:35.100 So, uh, you know, I think, uh, the Lord is, is, is, um, refining some of us, especially

01:27:43.300 through this season, because this hit, this has been a fever pitch season, but the Lord

01:27:47.860 is refining us. And I see him doing that with you. And I praise God for that. I see him doing it in

01:27:53.560 me. Look, I'm not even saying that the position that I'm holding is going to be the position that

01:28:01.420 I hold next time around. I could be persuaded because my conscience isn't infallible. It's not

01:28:10.360 impeccable. And I pray that the Lord will continue to humble us by his word and spirit. And I think

01:28:16.800 that's that's what's happening all right uh real quick if you want to stay on west is going to give

01:28:21.780 us an update and uh we can we'll talk a little bit more election here all right what do you got

01:28:26.300 yeah so 30 minutes ago like i said things were trending good trump in the roughly the 70 chance

01:28:30.980 of winning range now you can pull that graphic i just sent you we could go into like all the states

01:28:35.720 and the breakdowns we'll we'll definitely continue to get to those but here's really the big picture

01:28:40.200 um everything's leaning trump around 80 chance of winning favored now as of our last update uh

01:28:46.360 Kamala was actually leading the estimated, the projected popular vote that was projected 1.00

01:28:50.940 that she would come out on top. 0.97

01:28:52.040 By 0.1.

01:28:53.000 By 0.1.

01:28:53.800 So 30, 40 minutes ago, that's where we sat.

01:28:56.780 As of right now, Trump by half a point.

01:28:59.160 They just updated it to 0.8 as you were speaking.

01:29:03.140 0.8?

01:29:03.580 It just ticked.

01:29:04.260 Oh, snap.

01:29:05.760 So again, Joe Biden won popular vote.

01:29:08.200 I want to say it was by four points.

01:29:10.040 Clinton won it two or three points.

01:29:12.520 Trump still won, obviously, in 2016.

01:29:13.840 we're talking the popular vote on a raw numerical level which republicans have not won for a long

01:29:19.620 time trump projected at this time all else being equal everything continues how it's trending

01:29:25.420 uh that he would take that really um virginia's still very very close uh harris has taken the

01:29:32.100 lead there new hampshire close it's gonna come down to these six swing states but he's ran a

01:29:37.340 very targeted very efficient campaign got lots of air time remember kamala harris is she's hidden

01:29:42.740 from a lot of supporters, a lot of media coverage.

01:29:45.680 It's looking like he did what he needed to do in those states.

01:29:49.220 One prayer, the state of Arizona, it's close, Kamala Trump,

01:29:52.400 but more important, there's a ballot initiative,

01:29:54.020 ballot initiative 139, that enshrines the right to abortion

01:29:58.040 into the Constitution.

01:29:59.760 That one right now is looking like it's going to pass,

01:30:01.940 I think 64% to 36%.

01:30:03.940 So be praying in God's favor that that would fail,

01:30:06.920 just like the amendment failed in Florida.

01:30:09.580 be praying arizona proposition 139 that that would fail so that's where we stand a real quick list

01:30:15.380 uh for the listener uh what are the six swing states that are uh still in play yeah nevada

01:30:21.140 arizona georgia georgia's looking great trump's up 51 to 48 with 91 of the vote in and then

01:30:27.520 wisconsin michigan and pa and in all of those states in pennsylvania trump's leading by three

01:30:33.040 percent with 56 percent of the vote in trump's leading in wisconsin uh by about 20 000 votes

01:30:39.720 yeah by a percent and a half 51 percent of the vote in and then uh she's leading in michigan by

01:30:44.980 0.3 percent by literally 4 000 votes every single state nationally broadly at every single state

01:30:52.300 uh checking the senate quick the republicans so far they just flipped one in west virginia

01:30:59.340 all right everything's trending good yep so so far what we are learning is that uh turns out

01:31:04.380 in the final analysis one of the strongest arguments from for trump was uh four years of

01:31:08.300 biden so sometimes you know sometimes it's like oh he's racist and oh he's mean in his twitter

01:31:14.920 account and and then it's like four years of inflation immigration and you're like oh my

01:31:20.860 goodness give me the mean tweets back please for the love of god i'm curious in oklahoma

01:31:25.100 how much the immigration topic is playing into things locally

01:31:30.560 and then both their perspective on the national election.

01:31:34.260 Yeah, we had a bill that went through session this past session,

01:31:40.460 and it was on immigration. 0.70

01:31:42.720 It would have criminalized illegals.

01:31:47.060 And, I mean, the fines were small, but there was a deportation.

01:31:52.180 But we couldn't we couldn't flex on it per the state constitution. So that might come up as a as a referendum, a ballot initiative in the future, because, you know, and I think that's going to be the case in a lot of states, especially if if Kamala were to win.

01:32:11.220 And I think the states would flex their their powers. States have rights. We don't we don't fight for states rights.

01:32:17.200 We flex state powers per the 10th Amendment and due process for for all of our citizens.

01:32:24.480 And that that was an issue on that day of the vote.

01:32:28.300 And the week before, there were maybe 2000, you know, folks who were pro illegal immigration that were at the Capitol.

01:32:39.540 And they were that was probably the most raucous group that came to the Capitol.

01:32:45.560 I'm not probably it was absolutely the most raucous group that came to the Capitol.

01:32:49.820 There was security everywhere. The troopers were all over plainclothes officers were there.

01:32:56.120 And the governor signed it in and then he created a task force to to see what we could do to strengthen our the rights for those who were here legally.

01:33:08.820 And there was some some real bad headlines that came out about that. And I wrote against it several times and talked with the governor and several leaders in his office about this task force.

01:33:21.740 So it is an issue for sure. And, you know, we'll we'll have to we'll have to wait and see.

01:33:30.060 But I think under a Trump presidency, I don't think it will be as a hot as hot button an issue because he he's he's signaling that he's going to to to have a have a strong immigration and illegal immigration policy.

01:33:44.540 So I think the states will probably pull back from that. Great. We just breaking news.

01:33:49.800 yep georgia has been called for trump which is huge got georgia got him coach we got him and one

01:33:56.660 um cool all right does he any other thoughts um we'll probably move on to another guest here in

01:34:02.760 just a moment any other thoughts about the election or just the larger landscape the next

01:34:06.720 four years what maybe this uh what you know what do we i mean much of our marching orders remain

01:34:11.800 the same regardless of who wins the presidential election but in light of what seems to be likely

01:34:17.000 with a trump victory um any particular strategies any particular things that christians should be

01:34:22.560 focusing our energies toward over the next four years yeah for sure i mean what what what we should

01:34:29.860 recognize is that we get the leaders that we deserve and that we ultimately want uh and if

01:34:35.060 you have a a a citizenship that is largely you're going to have you're going to get the citizenship

01:34:42.960 that's engaged. You're going to get the citizens that are most engaged are going to provide

01:34:48.920 your civil service. So I think what we're seeing, not only since this year with the primaries in

01:34:59.560 these various states, there were massive landslide wins for real right conservatives in numerous

01:35:08.180 states. If you just look at the Freedom Caucus as an example, they had at least 106 candidates out

01:35:13.680 of their 122 or so that won, which is a major win. The Freedom Caucus is the furthest right

01:35:20.720 of all the conservative groups. And that was massive in Oklahoma. We saw the same, several

01:35:27.180 very important candidates who were grassroots candidates in races that were projected they'll

01:35:34.840 never win. Well, you saw strong Christian and real-right candidates winning those races. And I

01:35:42.280 think, you know, I get calls nearly every day from folks around the country who are saying,

01:35:47.780 hey, what can I do? I've seen since COVID, we were back on our heels. We were complacent. We

01:35:53.560 were apathetic towards the rule of Christ in our nation and really governing not according to

01:35:58.840 tyranny, but governing according to God's word. And we are seeing a massive uptick of real

01:36:06.140 Christian men with backbones who are saying they're going to run for office. And that's got 0.99

01:36:10.700 to be at the local levels, whether it's the precinct or the county or the district and to

01:36:15.440 the state levels. And I think the most important aspect since 2020, and especially in this race,

01:36:22.000 is that the states are going to rise up

01:36:26.920 and you're going to see more strong Christian legislators

01:36:31.460 be voting into office, more candidates running for office.

01:36:36.040 And that's where this really has to head.

01:36:38.480 We're not going to see things change on a federal level

01:36:42.000 until we see things change at the very most local levels.

01:36:46.700 And I'm encouraged by that.

01:36:48.580 If you look at the next generation of leaders

01:36:50.580 that are coming up. They're hearing the call. And I perceive that by 28, we'll have a whole

01:36:58.600 lot more real-right Christian candidates who are running and winning in offices. And I'm not saying

01:37:05.340 that 28 is going to provide us a different presidential outlook than J.D. Vance or someone

01:37:10.920 like him. But I do think when we look to 32 and even 36, you're going to see, I think it'll change.

01:37:18.680 yeah great all right cool thanks for hopping on the show hey my pleasure it's an honor to be with

01:37:26.280 you guys thank you for what you do yeah thank you too god bless god bless all right uh wes any uh

01:37:33.800 any further updates so the new york times has have you seen their live forecast one that's what i'm

01:37:41.600 looking at a little bit that's wild so they've bumped their estimate of trump because remember

01:37:45.100 different counties will vote different ways right philadelphia county pennsylvania the city like

01:37:50.260 you're not going to expect ballot trumps that are 60 trump based on different counties they can

01:37:54.600 project we expect it to be this or that so right now new york times is projecting trump up to now

01:38:00.560 to win by two percentage points remember joe biden only won by about 80 000 votes there in

01:38:04.960 pennsylvania so new york times projecting trump to win pennsylvania yeah they haven't called it yet

01:38:09.700 But as of now, if everything continues how it will continue, win by two, Michigan to Trump, 2.3 percentage points.

01:38:17.380 That's what they're predicting.

01:38:18.560 Which would mean he would pretty much sweep the Rust Belt states.

01:38:21.080 Well, they're predicting Wisconsin, too.

01:38:22.420 Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, which would be 312 electoral votes.

01:38:26.760 And the Senate races in those states are close.

01:38:29.660 Because if Trump takes, if he wins handily in electoral vote, for one, praise God, there's not going to be a lot of violence.

01:38:34.920 There's going to be no contesting.

01:38:35.900 It's not going to be like, well, no, there's just one state he won by, and it got shady.

01:38:39.700 uh for one it secures against violence but then if he secures down ballot so people came out to

01:38:44.840 vote for trump they filled it out for republican and he gets senate and house if he takes the

01:38:49.860 senate it's probably going to be six years before based on what seats come available democrats will

01:38:54.480 have a chance to take the senate again well the next the next cycle is unfavorable for us because

01:39:00.200 the ones that are somewhat unfavorable but here's the thing if you take five or six seat lead even

01:39:06.580 if the next unfavorable cycle you lose two or three six yeah absolutely you're right so that's

01:39:10.700 what you're looking at is not just a senate majority but a house majority yeah you control

01:39:14.440 all three chambers yeah and this would be called a mandate to rule right it's not just the people

01:39:19.200 delivered you bottom of the ninth razor thin margin 50 plus one wants you the nation wants you

01:39:26.820 in any individual state they want this party governing that would give trump so much more

01:39:31.680 leeway than he had with it was a pretty narrow senate i think it was 51 to 49 that he had in

01:39:36.700 2016 until he lost the house and in the 2018 he had it narrowly you're right right so if he takes

01:39:41.740 the senate and the house he would have a mandate and when you have more than a majority of just

01:39:46.880 one you can then actually do in the senate things that would be close because if you have a majority

01:39:52.260 of one and there's one defector a mitt romney type of this that or the other well you can't

01:39:56.800 get through what you want but if you have room for two three four defectors still push your

01:40:01.360 program through threatened to primary those who don't go with you that's huge and so we're looking

01:40:05.780 at i mean obamacare 2008 obama had a super majority in the senate he had it in the house that's how

01:40:11.420 he's able to get through his medicare reform in obamacare yeah trump is looking at this if

01:40:16.760 everything continues how it's trending yeah he's uh the senate seats are dragging a little behind

01:40:21.700 like even the ones where republicans are winning they're winning by less percentage points than

01:40:26.000 trump might be winning in that state and even a few of them kind of are flipping back and forth

01:40:30.120 between Democrats and Republicans

01:40:31.940 for the Senate races.

01:40:33.300 Go ahead.

01:40:35.020 I was just going to say real quick,

01:40:36.000 we got an update from Barack Obama

01:40:38.400 trying to set the stage for the cheating.

01:40:43.740 He said on X,

01:40:46.420 it took several days to count every ballot in 2020,

01:40:49.160 and it's very likely we won't know

01:40:51.040 the outcome tonight either.

01:40:52.780 So please keep a few things in mind

01:40:54.420 as you make your voice heard today.

01:40:56.500 Thousands of election workers around the country

01:40:58.880 are working hard today respect them thank them uh don't share things before checking your sources

01:41:04.200 let the process run its course by the process of course he means let the let the stealing run its

01:41:10.220 course um it takes time to count every ballot um thank you barack obama and how long ago was that

01:41:17.840 like very very recently oh my word no thanks no we're gonna find out tonight and uh i think we

01:41:24.220 Your wicked reign is over.

01:41:27.120 Barack Obama, I mean, really, this last four years has been his third term.

01:41:31.120 Yeah.

01:41:31.200 So you are done being president, sir.

01:41:34.140 Thank you.

01:41:35.540 All right.

01:41:35.760 So Arizona. 0.61

01:41:36.920 Carrie Lake is the candidate for governor there, correct?

01:41:39.780 Or is it Senate, Michael? 0.86

01:41:40.880 I think she's running Senate this time. 0.99

01:41:42.160 She lost the governorship two years ago. 1.00

01:41:43.640 Yep. 1.00

01:41:43.800 She's running for Senate. 1.00

01:41:45.020 She's running behind by seven points.

01:41:48.200 She has fallen off a cliff.

01:41:50.220 She's kind of gone. 1.00

01:41:51.300 For one, this is why you don't put women up.

01:41:53.020 But for two, this is why it's so important to run good candidates.

01:41:58.060 Like these races are not just, well, we'll win if Trump brings people out.

01:42:02.380 If you don't feel good candidates, the candidate for the North Carolina governor,

01:42:07.800 he had a major scandal, and it's probably going to cost us governorship of that state.

01:42:12.100 The Republicans need to run moral men that are highly qualified,

01:42:17.280 that are highly capable to have, especially in these close races,

01:42:20.340 where you can't afford a scandal

01:42:22.440 like Mark Robinson in North Carolina.

01:42:24.520 I'm seeing real quick in the chat, Iowa just

01:42:26.480 got called for Trump. Can we get a confirmation on that?

01:42:28.620 Iowa got called for Trump. New York Times says yes.

01:42:30.220 And what's huge is there's a very accurate

01:42:31.800 poll called the Selzer poll, and it

01:42:34.480 showed Kamala Harris winning over the weekend.

01:42:37.020 What was it, like plus nine or something

01:42:38.480 like that? Plus nine in Iowa

01:42:40.580 for Kamala? Plus three it was.

01:42:42.260 This one particular poll. That's like kind of a bell

01:42:44.500 weapon. But it was like a nine point swing or something

01:42:46.380 like that. It was completely off. None of that

01:42:48.540 to be expected if you're just joining us right now the night so far is going for trump yep

01:42:54.200 everything's looking good don't sleep though don't let them pull the shades down that's no

01:42:58.480 continuing counting in the back room disregard obama's uh his uh tweet that he just put out

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01:50:46.640 formal 90 minute debate i'm going to moderate and it's not going to be a discussion because

01:50:51.040 if it's a discussion. You guys know the drill. I'll talk too much. So I'm going to moderate a

01:50:55.380 debate that actually gives them time where Joel Webin can't interrupt them. God bless. It'll help

01:51:01.180 me, you know, have self-control. So a 90-minute debate between David Reese arguing for theonomy

01:51:08.160 and Stephen Wolf arguing from a Protestant, you know, magisterial position in the classical two

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01:51:19.560 there will also be profound disagreement may the best man win um and so uh we're going to be able

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01:51:29.680 um let's hash out this natural law uh theonomy thing and um and the reality is here's the deal

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01:51:40.580 won't talk to steven wolf right um but this is i love steven wolf i also i want to go on record

01:51:46.660 saying i love david reese yeah yeah um david reese uh when jeff durbin and no harm no foul nobody's

01:51:51.720 mad at jeff durbin i'm well some people probably are you know but i'm not mad at jeff durbin uh

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01:52:01.240 in mind james white is jeff durbin's co-eldrum right i mean so it's like it shouldn't be a

01:52:06.220 surprise you know that um if steven wolf you know his rhetoric on x he's spicy just like i am and

01:52:11.620 you know and i try to be probably more careful than steven wolf um especially when it comes

01:52:16.540 to people, individuals, and especially some of the guys that I would see as fathers in the faith.

01:52:22.780 And so I'm very appreciative of Dr. White, very appreciative of Doug Wilson. And so with those

01:52:27.700 guys, I'm always going to do my best to go above and beyond and be respectful. Stephen Wolf, a

01:52:32.920 little bit less so. And so Stephen Wolf, he used some sharp rhetoric. I think he even said more on

01:52:37.860 at one point and frustrated Dr. White. And I don't think Dr. White is wrong with that. And I don't

01:52:42.880 think steven wolf is a jerk i really don't i think that he's spicy um anyways love dr white i also

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01:52:58.540 harm no foul we love apologia uh but he dropped the conference and i thought for a second you know

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01:53:11.600 about dropping too uh i won't be upset if you are and he laughed and said no he's like i profoundly

01:53:16.840 disagree uh he said but honestly with jeff durbin dropping uh he said i actually kind of got a little

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01:54:02.400 That'd be great. All right. When you get those out of the way,

01:54:04.520 give us an update Wes. All right.

01:54:06.540 Actually some people have been asking for a map.

01:54:08.480 I don't know if it's the map of the election, but, Nate, I did text you one if you could put it up, and Wes can talk us through some of these updates.

01:54:15.620 Yeah, so it looks like this is the decision desk headquarters.

01:54:18.960 They're projecting Bernie Moreno, Republican, wins the U.S. Senate race in Ohio, which would be a GOP flip.

01:54:24.940 So we just talked 20 minutes ago how important the Senate is.

01:54:27.880 You can't just—we're not a monarchy.

01:54:30.000 We're not just the president's rule of law, although executive action has taken that down.

01:54:34.780 Winning the Senate, winning the House are also important, too.

01:54:36.740 looks like according to decision desk headquarters uh another gop senate seat flip so that's awesome

01:54:43.720 trump's estimated 87 chance of victory per new york times at this point a 300 electoral college

01:54:50.560 votes with a one percent popular vote margin so the projections right now he's up by three points

01:54:57.760 i think over two points in wisconsin and pennsylvania jose vega see you in the chat there's

01:55:04.040 map but you got it bro yep you're welcome yep so this is uh as current as i could uh screenshot it

01:55:11.020 and nate can put it up from the new york times website yes you'll see right there pennsylvania

01:55:15.880 wisconsin michigan wisconsin's 58 of the vote in pennsylvania's 67 percent now here's a difference

01:55:21.860 and what's what's the uh wisconsin's uh pennsylvania's 51 for trump 48 for kamala

01:55:27.200 and wisconsin's 50 48 for trump okay here's the difference too we're seeing between 2020 and now

01:55:33.780 in georgia in 2020 fulton county that was where the pipe burst right it was so close i mean i think

01:55:40.200 the margin was something like 10 000 votes that's where you had that phone call trump's hunting with

01:55:44.320 the governor he's like i just need you to find me 10 000 super close counting goes on for days

01:55:49.260 there will be probably some counting and some ballots still opened but it's been called now

01:55:53.420 the margin of victory it's three percent at this point is such that um it's not that close anymore

01:55:58.420 that even outstanding ballots remaining aren't going to be enough to overcome the deficit so

01:56:04.140 this is not all the signs seem to be pointing to because i i'm sure we all have ptsd right yep

01:56:08.760 looking good estimates are in you go to bed you wake up what in the world happened right michigan

01:56:15.420 pennsylvania but i mean in georgia where we know fraud looked very suspicious that was the suitcase

01:56:20.660 gate hauling that suitcase and pulling out ballots scanning them again and again yep that was in

01:56:25.860 georgia there appears no possible way that would happen now because the margins of votes already

01:56:30.180 counted mean it wouldn't even be possible to get that many and if they did it elon musk would

01:56:35.480 probably be there personally he'd call this jet guy and be like we're going to georgia

01:56:39.860 fulton county so georgia looking good yeah and the point is with pennsylvania uh i think the

01:56:45.060 mayor or secretary of state about philadelphia county he said well it could be a couple days

01:56:49.400 till philadelphia county results are in right lame white pill it might not matter yeah he's

01:56:54.860 already won most of the other state by three percent there wouldn't be enough votes to be

01:56:58.740 found there to overcome the difference yep yep uh i saw in the chat somebody was asking about you

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01:59:06.680 and in april you will be able to live stream um you'll be able to live stream the conference and

01:59:12.080 uh and that'll be really cool yeah all right people are begging for ad they want to see ad

01:59:16.360 they want to see ad huh the reasonable latino some other have asked what bourbon are we drinking

01:59:21.820 this is walking stick single barrel bourbon it's a good bourbon i like it all right the people have

01:59:26.720 spoken i'm putting it on speakerphone i'm calling ad right now your call has been forwarded

01:59:31.460 he said i'm going to bed airplane mode nope i'm trying again

01:59:38.520 oh we got a ring your call has been

01:59:44.020 i got one ring it's 11 there right he might he might be i don't know if he's doing his

01:59:50.840 own live stream or maybe he hopped on with somebody else

01:59:53.340 um i'll call yeah i'll call brian it's top of the hour we could take a quick break and

02:00:01.720 yeah we can take a quick break i'm gonna call brian survey i'll do it right now because it's

02:00:05.960 you know it's always fun just to embarrass myself like i just did with uh calling ad

02:00:09.380 and he just completely ignored my call sent it straight to voicemail um all right so here we go

02:00:15.760 we've got uh brian sovei where are you where are you i'm already seeing tweets i've got

02:00:27.800 answer the phone yeah get them guys get them just hound them hound them on x here we go

02:00:35.600 Brian Sauve, give him a call.

02:00:38.100 He's only got like 17 kids, so I'm sure he's available.

02:00:41.860 Oh, we've got a ring.

02:00:43.620 Let's see.

02:00:45.760 Let me take him off speaker in case he makes a spicy joke.

02:00:54.600 You really don't have to be that careful, Brian.

02:00:56.640 Brian's the same guy online as he is in person, which is a blessing.

02:01:01.140 Sounds like I'm seeing reports.

02:01:02.800 The Kamala campaign.

02:01:03.800 so campaigns will send out official announcements and everything sounds like they've gone dark

02:01:08.280 they're not putting a spin on it you know like well we see strong turnout in florida but we're

02:01:12.620 excited for the turnout yep they're not saying much which may they haven't said much the entire

02:01:17.060 campaign so i know brian i i called uh eric con uh right before we started live streaming we talked

02:01:22.700 for a little bit i don't know if i can read that he just texted me brian did he said he's in the

02:01:30.540 bath okay so all right so we'll leave brian alone uh he's he's celebrating the trump victory in his

02:01:37.240 own way um but uh yeah we'll uh we'll probably take a quick break and i will call uh the reasonable

02:01:43.800 latino um again i'll call brian again uh i'll give eric a call anybody in the chat uh tell us uh

02:01:51.040 anybody else that you want us to grab on the stream um anybody else that you uh think would

02:01:57.420 be fun to interact we can reach out i'll call uh andrew uh isker give him a call you guys can you

02:02:04.320 think of anybody else those are my suggestions all right so isker cj we've already had wolf we've

02:02:10.660 already had deavers uh i could call william william oh yeah you know we had wolf the greater we could

02:02:16.240 get wolf the lesser he'll have some great analysis for sure yeah william wolf will be fantastic this

02:02:22.660 is his domain um he was in the trump administration back in 2016 um all right so william wolf

02:02:29.080 ad robles eric con brian survey andrew isker cj so i'll call them we'll take a quick uh water break

02:02:37.640 man shall not live by bourbon alone we'll take a quick water break um call some guys get some

02:02:45.120 reinforcements and uh come back on keep on trucking at least for a little while it'd be

02:02:50.120 great if we could get a decision tonight we'll see see that escalator ride one more time live

02:02:54.840 with all of you that'd be beautiful yeah i don't know that we'll i don't know maybe maybe we will

02:02:59.480 somebody said uh x uh 80 just posted on x 20 minutes ago so we know he's awake we know

02:03:05.380 20 minutes ago he was we will get him 80's my guy 80 loves me he will do it he'll come on 80 i just

02:03:14.020 i gotta say this man 80 robles um you know i i tweeted out like uh middle of of last week i said

02:03:22.040 can you feel it the vibe shift is coming yeah and and it came and i got a lot of support and i'm

02:03:28.420 really grateful for all of you guys um but there were some guys who uh before the vibe shift came

02:03:33.620 that's right they're like we know joel we know his character and um and we're with him and uh

02:03:39.600 and one of those guys was ad robles ad robles was just i mean that guy i'll say this uh find you a

02:03:48.260 friend like ad robles amen that that guy he he came to my defense and he swing it was it wasn't

02:03:54.580 even about him you know and he was way more upset than i was yep like i remember talking to him

02:04:00.000 after i was like hey man like i don't want to burn you know bridges i know doug just did his

02:04:03.880 burn bridges video for no quarter like that's if doug wants to do that that's fine i would like to

02:04:08.720 not burn the bridges um especially since i watched doug's video and the bridge is burning and some

02:04:13.900 of the fire catches onto the sweat is that like prophetic symbolism there you burn the bridge and

02:04:18.620 the whole town ends up burning down and you also set yourself on fire maybe not a good idea uh but

02:04:22.760 i you know i called ad and i was like hey man you know let's let's you know um i'd like to still be

02:04:28.160 friends with all these guys and um uh but the point is ad um he's the kind of guy that um if

02:04:35.540 He sticks with his gut, with his convictions.

02:04:38.400 If he feels as though he's found the truth,

02:04:41.540 he grabs on and he will not let go. 0.51

02:04:43.700 He is a bulldog.

02:04:44.300 And if he's outnumbered 10 to one,

02:04:46.460 he's like, I like my odds.

02:04:47.760 Yep.

02:04:48.940 And he just goes.

02:04:50.440 So it wasn't even him.

02:04:51.440 It was me that was in the hot seat.

02:04:53.500 And yet AD was, he was more upset than I was

02:04:57.540 because he loves truth.

02:05:00.280 But also, I'd like to think,

02:05:02.840 I don't know if he could say it out loud.

02:05:04.200 He's probably, probably make him a little bit uncomfortable.

02:05:07.920 I'm more mushy than he is.

02:05:10.060 But I think, I think that whether he says it or not,

02:05:13.460 Aidy loves the truth and he also loves Joel Webber.

02:05:15.500 I think he would say it.

02:05:16.200 He does.

02:05:16.720 He loves me.

02:05:17.540 We know he loves me.

02:05:18.680 All right.

02:05:19.320 Let's take a quick break.

02:05:20.900 Real quick, let's just pray.

02:05:22.300 Father God, we thank you that you're sovereign over all things,

02:05:25.080 that there's no king but Christ in the truest ultimate sense,

02:05:28.240 that he is ruling and reigning right now over every single molecule in the universe.

02:05:33.100 nothing happens outside of your control and even suffering and even sin is something that is

02:05:40.400 preordained by you the greatest sin that's ever been committed in all of human history

02:05:44.360 was the murder of a perfectly sinless innocent man the lord jesus christ and even this you say 0.69

02:05:50.340 in the book of acts that uh that uh the jews and the romans and all these people from all over

02:05:56.460 they gathered together to participate in what your hand and your plan predestined to come about. 0.63

02:06:05.200 So Pilate is responsible for the murder of Jesus. The Romans are responsible for the murder of 0.94

02:06:09.840 Jesus. The Jews are responsible for the murder of Jesus. And us, 2,000 years later, because of our 1.00

02:06:16.440 sin that made the cross necessary, are responsible for the murder of Jesus. And yet also, you

02:06:22.360 ordained it. Both of those things are true at once. You ordained it. Human agency, human moral

02:06:29.100 culpability, and the absolute sovereignty of God reigning supreme over all of it. And if you were

02:06:34.680 sovereign over that, then we know that you are sovereign over this. You're sovereign over this

02:06:39.760 election, and you will give to your people. You work, Romans chapter 8, you work all things

02:06:46.280 together for the good of those who love you. Sorry, guys, I should have taken off my hat.

02:06:50.200 You work all things together for the good of those who love you and are called according

02:06:54.480 to your purpose.

02:06:55.600 You are going to do, you are going to a cause and you have ordained the outcome of this

02:07:01.540 election for two reasons.

02:07:02.740 Number one, to garner for yourself the absolute maximal optimal amount of glory possible for

02:07:10.020 your glory.

02:07:10.920 But secondly, for the good of your people.

02:07:13.580 You do everything for your glory and for the eternal good of your people.

02:07:18.760 and so we know that the outcome of the election is in your hands and it will be for our good

02:07:23.980 regardless of the outcome and you are infinitely wise you know better than us all that being said

02:07:29.460 lastly lord um even though you're sovereign even though you've already made up your mind

02:07:35.160 prayer is not a a way for human beings uh to change the mind of the god of the universe

02:07:41.020 you've already made up your mind we're not changing your mind and yet prayer still matters

02:07:45.860 and it doesn't just matter for us, it matters to you.

02:07:48.960 You, although you've already made up your mind

02:07:51.260 and although you do all things well

02:07:53.260 according to your good and perfect counsel,

02:07:55.500 you have told us in your holy word

02:07:57.740 that you love your children to come to you

02:08:01.760 and to make our petitions known,

02:08:04.140 to be anxious about nothing,

02:08:06.080 but in prayer and supplication

02:08:07.820 to make our requests known to you.

02:08:09.900 Like the widow who knocks on the wicked judge

02:08:13.080 on his door 10 times again and again,

02:08:15.560 petitioning, so too you use that as a parable, as an example of how we should come to you and

02:08:23.520 not only petition once or twice, but again and again, you love to hear the prayers of your

02:08:29.420 people. So we ask you, Lord, we know you're sovereign. We know you do what's good. We know

02:08:33.220 you do what's right. But we do bring a petition, a specific petition. We pray that if it's your will

02:08:39.940 that you would give to us Donald J. Trump as our president, not because he's the savior,

02:08:46.580 not because he's the Christian prince, but because he brings less destruction than Kamala Harris.

02:08:53.540 And we love our nation and we love our children. We love our families. We love our churches.

02:08:59.040 And we would like to have as much blessing, as much peace as possible. We know that Trump

02:09:04.360 does bring. He is a judgment, and he does bring judgment. But we believe that he is less of a

02:09:12.200 judgment and brings less judgment than Kamala. And because we love our country and our families

02:09:17.620 and our churches, we pray that you would be so kind and merciful to give us less destruction

02:09:23.040 and less judgment than what we really deserve. So Lord, we pray, if it be your will, would you

02:09:28.640 cause Donald J. Trump to be our president, to be elected, and that it would happen tonight.

02:09:33.220 we pray this in jesus name amen amen all right stay in the chat help us out like the video

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02:09:44.940 get your friends we'll be back here in just a little bit all right

02:10:03.220 The mountains are magnets and you are steel

02:10:25.480 The dangerous peaks and the heady thin air

02:10:29.280 Beckoning, calling in, waving their hands

02:10:32.960 Saying, come on boys, come further up, further in

02:10:51.300 Oh, Neptune is roaring and shaking his face

02:10:55.640 Swallowing islands and timbered ships

02:10:59.260 But look to the glory, it's there to be had

02:11:02.980 And take to the oars or you'll wish that you did

02:11:07.420 Come on boys, don't you know

02:11:12.200 The dragon's out there, dragon's out there

02:11:16.720 Come on boys, don't be slow

02:11:19.720 Cut down the vice and go get the girl 0.99

02:11:23.880 Come on boys, don't you know The dragon's out there, dragon's out there 0.98

02:11:31.680 Come on boys, don't be slow Cut down the vibe and go get the girl

02:11:53.880 She's prettier than any sunset or sky 1.00

02:12:12.360 Bright as a flower, all slender and wild

02:12:16.080 You swear that you've never seen anything more

02:12:19.860 Lovely is this river daughter before

02:12:23.720 She's a glorious thing, she's a glorious man

02:12:30.180 Born out of Adam, a garden again

02:12:33.920 So some take your strength and your courage in it

02:12:37.820 Since she won't be a crown on your head

02:12:42.060 Come on boys, don't you know

02:12:46.940 The dragon's out there

02:12:49.180 Dragons out there

02:12:51.400 Come on boys, don't be slow

02:12:54.420 Cut down Leviathan 1.00

02:12:56.680 Go get the girl 0.79

02:12:58.400 Come on boys, don't you know

02:13:01.780 Dragons out there

02:13:04.180 Dragons out there

02:13:06.400 Come on boys, don't be slow

02:13:09.340 Cut down Leviathan 1.00

02:13:11.600 Go get the girl 0.98

02:13:13.480 Don't give any 1.00

02:13:19.180 To cowardly tongues

02:13:22.220 There's glory out there 1.00

02:13:25.940 Out there to be one

02:13:29.520 Look to the king

02:13:33.240 He's thrown down Goliath 0.70

02:13:37.580 And cut off his head

02:13:41.060 Take courage now, son 1.00

02:13:44.540 Don't give any heed 0.99

02:13:48.620 To cowardly tongues

02:13:52.220 There's holy out there 1.00

02:13:56.020 Out there to be one

02:13:59.800 Look to the king 1.00

02:14:04.900 He's thrown down galah 0.99

02:14:07.380 And cut off his head 0.99

02:14:11.000 Take us now, son 1.00

02:14:14.540 Come on boys, don't you know

02:14:19.660 Dragons out there, dragons out there

02:14:44.540 You were seventeen

02:14:57.480 And I was thinking I would lose my mind

02:15:02.660 Cause you were sun bright 0.98

02:15:06.820 In that long dress

02:15:10.160 River, valley, green and wild

02:15:13.220 Running violent through the pines

02:15:19.020 I saw you laughing with your hair down

02:15:26.040 Oh, you taught me how to burn

02:15:29.020 And I was wondering if I could have you

02:15:36.420 If I could take that river home

02:15:40.020 You were nervous.

02:16:10.020 all right we are back are we live nate we're live okay here we are we're so back whenever

02:16:18.280 whenever you feel the we're so over just know that it will always inevitably be swallowed up

02:16:25.100 by the unstoppable we're so bad that's right here we are um okay update so things are looking good

02:16:31.500 washington and california called for kamala harris no surprise there colorado uh chase davis

02:16:36.600 hardest hit uh called for kamala harris as well pennsylvania 76 of the vote in donald trump's

02:16:42.360 still leading 51 to 48 i'm gonna read a breakdown so uh this is twitter account christian hayans

02:16:49.080 h-e-i-e-n-s don't don't vouch for everything on their profile don't know what it is but they have

02:16:53.940 some good analysis why trump is going to win in pennsylvania this is just literally eight minutes

02:16:57.820 ago philly philadelphia county is only coming in for harris by 57 points when biden carried it by

02:17:03.140 over 63 almost all of pittsburgh is in that's still steel country trump country trump still

02:17:08.340 leads by three percent over 140 000 votes statewide and hardly any of cambria county is in yet trump

02:17:14.560 carried it by 26 000 votes in 2020 just about every path to victory runs through pennsylvania

02:17:20.040 trump is in a great position to win it um which is awesome trump is leading in wisconsin 51 48 with

02:17:26.300 66 percent of the vote in and then michigan 52 to 46 trump is winning only 33 percent of the vote

02:17:33.540 in three yep uh a lead of like 2 000 votes in arizona very very close in arizona that's not

02:17:41.620 good that's if trump takes the rust belt it doesn't matter it doesn't matter but if trump

02:17:46.680 was to only take pennsylvania for instance so if he loses arizona or say even nevada

02:17:51.360 but sweeps wisconsin michigan pennsylvania uh doesn't really matter but that's the closest

02:17:56.980 actually i would i'm glad arizona is the closest pennsylvania is the closest that's a little bit

02:18:02.200 worse yeah um what's pennsylvania is what like uh 22 19 electoral votes got re uh reproportioned

02:18:09.120 after census okay so what arizona is less than that right yep arizona is 12 11 11 and then

02:18:16.200 nevada's six yeah michigan 16 what do you think why do you think i mean arizona used to be pretty

02:18:21.020 deep red uh just california spillover or what california bleed over and it's a border state

02:18:26.420 too ah yeah yep that'll do it yep and places like they're balkanizing it's funny when you look at

02:18:32.840 this map um lots of places have turned red and some blue red red places in the country they're

02:18:39.140 getting redder florida yeah blue places are in this election is not showing up as much but i

02:18:44.600 have to think like they're getting bluer i was in downtown austin today for work and uh my goodness

02:18:49.800 the amount of harris wall signs yeah in a deep red state a state that trump is about to carry

02:18:54.840 downtown austin oh well yeah yeah but terrible but i'll tell you the blue are going to the cities

02:19:00.360 texas is texas is trump's winning by 14 points in texas right now so that's that's pretty

02:19:09.080 that's that's much better than because it only went i can't remember but i think it was like

02:19:13.400 52 to 48 percent something like that uh on 2020 trump let me check what ted cruz i was just

02:19:21.060 checking that so they haven't called it yet but he's up by four by 10 percent yep so that's great

02:19:25.860 we'll hold the senate seat there uh we mentioned earlier it looks like the republicans will flip

02:19:30.140 a senate seat in ohio right um so that would be two flip seats they would only need one more seat

02:19:34.680 then to have a majority in the senate assuming jd vance takes the vice presidency um house is

02:19:41.140 looking good live forecast trump now with an 89 chance of victory i said earlier one of the things

02:19:47.860 to be worried about the odds creep up the things look good early 75 chance of winning we all saw

02:19:54.160 we went to bed that 75 evaporated in this case instead of the evaporation as it's gotten later

02:19:59.720 into the night it's continued to go up yeah that's huge now estimated 1.1 popular vote margin

02:20:06.460 wow uh which would be say that again what was 1.1 1.1 popular vote margin projected 1.1 percent

02:20:13.360 a 1.1 then it was 0.5 now it's 1.1 yep yep so breaking records i had a little bit to share on

02:20:21.600 how disappointing some of these measures and some of these races were it's not a black pill

02:20:25.260 anything else to add before that no no all right so delaware democrat sarah mcbride

02:20:34.200 sarah mcbride quote you're listening wins u.s house seat the first trans identifying person

02:20:40.740 to do so so we have just elected the first transgender individual the abortion amendment

02:20:48.200 in florida amendment four it was 57 for 43 against yep more than half so more than more

02:20:56.340 than half the state wanted it and when i voted for it but it required a 60 percent threshold to pass

02:21:01.940 wow like say everything holds trump wins take senate takes house there's so much more work to

02:21:09.440 do yep to seize power to crush our enemies legally of course um in the institutions but it's it's not

02:21:18.460 just like you don't get out of 60 years of rebellion with a good election night and a shrewd

02:21:24.180 campaign that's right that the repentance that's needed i i was comparing with someone on the phone

02:21:28.520 And like the repentance, if you got into some sin and you came out of it on your own, like there's repentance and restoration needed there, depending on the damage you did.

02:21:36.260 But compared to a years long affair, for instance, if you get into sin that far, the repentance process is not some counseling, some walking together and some healing.

02:21:45.380 It's going to be years of building back trust.

02:21:47.680 And so bring that to a national level, not just some change, not just some apostasy, but decades upon decades upon decades in all these different areas.

02:21:57.140 none of that is changed by a great night tonight so praise god as we just prayed as seems to be

02:22:03.940 the case donald j trump elected president a senate a house uh amendment for failing in florida

02:22:10.420 praise god amen so much more work to do ben marsh posted a graph um this is religious uh attendance

02:22:20.280 uh from gallup poll and it's gone down from 76 percent in 1945 to 47 percent in 2020

02:22:28.540 so nationally more people than not do not now this is all religious attendance but to your point

02:22:35.860 wes like we i think a lot of us have said for a while if trump wins what it does is it gives us

02:22:45.280 a window for the church to become more purified more insistent more passionate more vocal more

02:22:54.220 insistent on righteousness more evangelistic um and it's it's it really just buys us time to do

02:23:00.340 the work that we that we need to be doing yep right okay um so do you think we're going to get

02:23:09.440 an answer tonight an answer answer unless an escalator ride i don't think so apparently

02:23:17.680 per fox news the harris campaign i just mentioned this a little bit ago they stopped giving comments

02:23:22.060 gone dark the campaign's not you know sending out like we're looking good we're looking strong

02:23:26.800 they've gone dark like nothing nothing is going their direction the common one become the harris

02:23:32.960 campaign yeah so if you were to call them up like how was the campaign feeling about the path to

02:23:37.980 click 80 robles style this call has been forwarded oh man that's great trump at 91

02:23:46.040 chance of victory now on new york times wow wow i mean because he's up by three percent

02:23:52.200 in pennsylvania he's up by three percent in wisconsin yeah he's definitely you know have

02:24:01.320 georgia i don't know why i haven't called it yet but and let me tell you what too there's a lot of

02:24:05.300 republicans i know it feels like well what did we fix about the voting fraud last time this that or

02:24:09.780 the other praise god there's a lot of salt of the earth republicans i was getting phone calls from

02:24:14.000 like here in the republican county going through voter rolls hey your address doesn't match and

02:24:18.280 says you're suspended do you need to fix that a lot of good people yeah uh and again maybe they

02:24:23.280 wouldn't be attending necessarily our churches in our camps but they really did get on their feet

02:24:27.460 and they got out there and they said something went way wrong in 2020 yeah charlie kirk great

02:24:32.380 guy yeah he went on the ground in pennsylvania he said i'm my mission is to find a hundred thousand

02:24:37.080 votes i'm going to go there the margin of victory for the victory for biden was 80 000 in 2020 i'm

02:24:43.560 going to get on the ground personally get money involved i'm going to find 100k votes to make a

02:24:47.620 difference so praise god for people that um again they recognize there's more to be done than a

02:24:52.640 presidential victory they said i'm going to roll up my sleeves and i'm going to be a poll watcher

02:24:56.280 i'm going to volunteer i'm going to be a precinct chair i'm going to get out the vote i'm going to

02:24:59.520 door knock that really in many ways other things too definitely move the needle on this election

02:25:04.540 yeah wow wow that's good i wonder um sorry nate we've got a couple comments in audio is cutting

02:25:12.220 in and out every five seconds yep um i wonder if you know like with all the

02:25:18.980 indictments that have been brought against trump i wonder if uh if democrats will bring a new

02:25:25.200 indictment uh for him uh just uh beating women you know it's like like he doesn't beat men

02:25:33.700 but now it looks like it's like you beat two women you can be beat you you know you beat

02:25:39.480 hillary clinton it's like he's a woman beater you know my word that's too funny that's a tough

02:25:44.820 campaign it is kind of funny like trump like uh like three three different campaigns and uh and

02:25:52.180 the one thing that he uh did 100 of the time was beat beat the women yeah uh that same account

02:26:00.520 christian christian heinz 75 of philadelphia is already in there's an estimated 172 000 votes

02:26:06.280 remaining in philly even if harris won 100 of these votes he would only lead trump by less than

02:26:11.380 8 000 votes statewide hardly any of a couple other big pro-trump counties are in uh meaning

02:26:17.280 there's really not a great path to victory in pennsylvania which almost all the election rests

02:26:22.040 on pennsylvania right so lots of reasons to be optimistic they said before the election that if

02:26:26.360 uh trump won pennsylvania harris only had a four percent chance of winning the general election

02:26:31.600 if trump won pennsylvania wow yep wow i didn't know that you're telling me that for the first

02:26:37.900 time great yeah awesome well joel do you think we're going to get a hold of any of these uh

02:26:45.280 these other guys uh i don't know it's i i um i went out there and i checked on megan to see

02:26:51.200 how she's doing if there's any development on the on the on the the baby horizon um

02:26:58.400 which i don't know i kind of have a feeling uh baby might be coming could could happen tonight

02:27:04.080 salutary birth yeah it could happen tonight could happen tomorrow but definitely i think soon she's

02:27:10.460 um she said she started to feel like a little bit of tightness we always you know like we we try to

02:27:16.640 labor as much at home as possible so she's laying down and just trying to rest because it's not

02:27:22.420 not that uncomfortable at this point um but uh yeah so i checked on her i got some water i didn't

02:27:28.120 end up calling anybody send a few more texts and it seems like most most of the guys are

02:27:33.940 feeling pretty because they started you know at five o'clock this morning right exactly and they're

02:27:38.580 And I think they're feeling optimistic and they're like, all right, we got it.

02:27:41.040 We got the win.

02:27:41.800 And a lot of guys are going to bed.

02:27:43.540 So I didn't really have anybody lined up to join.

02:27:47.900 How many people do we have on X right now, Nate?

02:27:59.360 Okay, 1,500 on X.

02:28:00.160 We're down to 284 on YouTube.

02:28:02.020 Okay, how many?

02:28:03.080 284.

02:28:03.640 Yeah.

02:28:03.780 i think uh my you know i think we you know say a few more things if we have a few more thoughts

02:28:09.760 but i think it's starting to i think people are starting to go to bed and it's i think what west

02:28:15.580 said was uh really helpful that the difference uh with this go-around versus 2020 election

02:28:21.080 yeah is it 2020 election started strong and then started to evaporate you know so it's like this

02:28:26.740 75 percent you know um slated to win with the percentages for trump 75 chance and then you

02:28:34.540 know all of a sudden in an hour you know it just starts to tank yep um so as it got later in the

02:28:40.020 night the victory um began to evaporate and what we're seeing now is uh with each passing hour it

02:28:47.880 just gets higher yeah you know so it's like went from like you know 75 to you know 85 to now we're

02:28:54.980 at what 91 percent 89 chance right now went to 91 now it's 89 now it's at 89 so looking pretty good

02:29:03.000 um and i do probably need to sleep some tonight because you guys are going to have a baby yeah

02:29:10.080 maybe we may be my prediction is maybe uh maybe early in the a.m might be making a drive to the

02:29:17.300 hospital um all right uh somebody uh jy reformer said thought you guys were going to do a simulcast

02:29:26.560 with isker and cj we would have loved that uh we were never quite confident though uh that the on

02:29:35.860 the tech side that we could quite pull it off so that was part of the problem andrew uh he texted

02:29:41.160 me and said yeah we're down let's you know and um we you know tried a little bit and i i just i

02:29:47.700 don't think i don't think it's going to happen but i hear that they did a great job with their stream

02:29:51.820 they had some great guests um good political uh commentary um all right wes michael any other

02:30:01.000 thoughts ad uh tweeted he said i'm a simple man all i want uh is to watch compilation videos of

02:30:09.740 unhinged women crying and sad tweets from big eva for the rest of the week is not too much to ask

02:30:14.800 yep amen he said the same thing about something similar about david french yeah yeah yeah and

02:30:20.040 russell moore like i'm a simple man all i want is for russell moore to be in tears that's right

02:30:24.720 yeah yeah do you have anything michael i think we've got most of it i'm i'm really um i told

02:30:32.400 my kids before we went into the election today i said look um we talk about politics a lot we

02:30:37.640 talk about the election we think it's important but uh legitimately um there's no there's no

02:30:43.120 worry there's no fear right there's no room for that at this point in history either way you know

02:30:48.880 even though tonight seems like it's going towards trump and that's you know that's great um there's

02:30:53.880 no room for cowardice or mamsy pamsy or it's it's it's time to to work it's time to gird up our

02:31:00.500 loins and act like men and um regardless of what happens if trump wins we don't get the next four

02:31:06.680 years of not doing anything right right we if anything we work harder because we have a window

02:31:11.480 right so yep yep yep time to get to work um if we win uh and it looks like we will praise god

02:31:18.460 but uh if we get the win uh at the presidential level then uh that just means at the local level

02:31:24.160 we've got lots and lots and lots of work to do planting churches starting businesses um starting

02:31:31.140 families households trying to build wealth getting involved in local politics running for office

02:31:36.980 um all those different things uh to actually uh cause change um for too long christians have been

02:31:44.620 relatively uninterested in this world you know that we've misquoted and mis-exegeted so many of

02:31:51.200 so much of the scripture and so many of the particular things that have been said by

02:31:56.100 our lord jesus himself you know like my kingdom is not of this world and christians you know have

02:32:01.080 twisted that and taken that as a license to say. Spoiler alert, I have a whole chapter on that

02:32:05.040 verse. Oh, nice. But we've just taken that and used it as a license to say, well,

02:32:11.380 Jesus doesn't really care about the world and neither do I. But the world matters. God loves

02:32:17.500 the world and he made the world. He's redeeming the world. And we should be involved as his hands

02:32:24.640 and feet. Christ is the head of the church. The church is his body. And he's been appointed head

02:32:30.540 not just of the church, he's head of the church in a unique sense that the church is the only

02:32:34.380 entity for which he died. But in an authoritative sense, Jesus has been set up by God the Father as

02:32:42.280 head of all things for the benefit of the church. So the church is his agency to be used in the

02:32:49.140 world and not just within the church institute, but the church as a body is to affect all the

02:32:56.760 institutions. So we want pure, godly, righteous churches, but then we want Christians to also

02:33:05.920 not just have good, healthy churches as the church institute, but to be the church and to go out and

02:33:13.700 to redeem all the other different realms of society as well, not just the church, but also

02:33:19.760 the home the family but then also the political sphere also uh media medicine um you know

02:33:27.720 economics and markets and all all these different things and so there's a lot of work to be done

02:33:32.060 and uh with four years of trump vance and a more favorable political landscape available to us

02:33:39.880 that will create maybe not perfect or optimal but it will create undoubtedly better conditions

02:33:47.960 cultural political and economic conditions for building yeah and so these next four years

02:33:55.840 it will be much much more feasible for you at every practical level right to start that business

02:34:05.800 that you've been thinking about than it would have been with the common presidency it will be

02:34:10.280 easier for you um to run at the local level for uh city council um to run for office um it will be

02:34:18.400 easier for you to uh start your media company or to start you know whatever it is that you're doing

02:34:24.100 um investments i think at an economic level investments will be better all these different

02:34:28.740 things um it'll be easier for you and more profitable for you to buy some bitcoin these

02:34:34.620 next four years than it would have been with comla like at every level you know the list goes on and

02:34:39.540 on and on um so so think strategize pray dream um but then get to work and do something um don't

02:34:49.780 just say oh yay we want a trump victory um is um that doesn't mean that it's over like like the

02:34:57.340 war is up uh it means uh it means now now um it's time to get started gain some ground yep gain some

02:35:04.240 ground one of the big x factors like north carolina the governor he just the republicans

02:35:09.400 lost the race they feel that a bad candidate that had demons in his closet like why is dusty deavers

02:35:14.440 i mean he got mocked on the jimmy kimmel show like a nationally syndicated program mocked and

02:35:19.800 and all of these different things we can stand up to it because he has character where we've run bad

02:35:24.600 candidates we've run women like carrie lake where we've run the mark robinsons we lose and we lose

02:35:29.980 tight important elections run good candidates find good candidates find the dusty deavers

02:35:36.080 they're truly he could be out there he's pastoring he's building a business he's laboring he doesn't

02:35:41.220 have any idea that he could be for this i think of thomas massey that built his own home like

02:35:46.280 off the grid and like the people in his district were begging him hey there's an opening there's

02:35:50.360 a vacancy run for office so find those guys if you're not that guy put them up let's have good

02:35:56.580 candidates, I don't want to plug my nose to have to vote for Ted Cruz again in 2028. People will

02:36:03.160 get out to the polls. They'll be more excited. We'll seize more power when we put up Christian

02:36:08.580 men of good character. That is so critical to all of this. Amen. All right. Well, thank you guys

02:36:15.240 for tuning in. Appreciate all the patriots in the chat. Thank you for loving Christ, loving his

02:36:21.080 kingdom uh wanting the best for our nation uh we are our constant prayer is that uh that god

02:36:27.760 would be so merciful that he would give us um significantly better than what we deserve um

02:36:32.920 so we we deserve a kamala presidency yeah we do yeah and uh but god may be gracious enough to

02:36:40.540 give us trump and trump is a judgment in and of itself and he brings because trump is not uh the

02:36:47.600 righteous man that we wish he was. So he is a judgment and he brings judgment. But by God's

02:36:53.180 grace, we believe that he's a less severe judgment and that he also brings and garners less future

02:37:00.420 judgment. And so that is, for that reason alone, that is a blessing and a mercy from the Lord.

02:37:08.600 It's a mercy to our families, to our local churches, to our children. It's a mercy to our

02:37:14.180 tax dollars it's a mercy to you know all those kinds and it's a mercy to the world when you

02:37:18.080 think of loving neighbors and even you know we obviously have a higher moral obligation to um

02:37:23.820 to our fellow citizens uh than we do people on the other side of the world but we do love people

02:37:29.020 on the other side of the world natural affections doesn't mean i love this group of people and hate

02:37:33.000 everyone else um it just means that uh and the order of morris the order of loves that there is

02:37:38.660 a hierarchy there's a prioritization if i love everyone equally that's essentially all that is

02:37:43.340 is really just saying that I don't love anyone at all.

02:37:46.580 Because not even because of our fallenness and sin,

02:37:49.020 but because of our finitude.

02:37:50.300 We are finite creatures.

02:37:52.440 We're not omnibenevolent and we're not omnipresent

02:37:55.240 and we're not omniscient.

02:37:56.680 And so we're not capable of fully loving 8.2 billion people.

02:38:03.240 But that said, order remorse matters,

02:38:07.520 natural affections matter,

02:38:08.620 um a hierarchy of of loves and and um and familial obligations and all these kinds of things matter

02:38:14.800 um but none of that means that we don't love the world and people on the other side of the world

02:38:21.020 and um trump's not just better for our churches and our families and our nation

02:38:25.560 uh he's he is better for the world the world right now is rooting for donald trump to win

02:38:32.000 there will be more peace with Donald Trump than there would be without him.

02:38:39.960 And so for the sake of not just our families, that comes first,

02:38:44.840 but not just our families and our churches and our nation,

02:38:47.500 but for the sake of war-torn countries and foreign conflicts

02:38:52.260 and everything with Russia and Ukraine to Iran and Israel

02:38:57.500 and all at every single level.

02:39:00.960 It is better for the world.

02:39:04.000 It's not perfect.

02:39:04.760 There's plenty of problems,

02:39:05.760 but it is an improvement.

02:39:07.160 It is better for the world

02:39:08.200 to have the next four years

02:39:10.280 with Trump in office

02:39:11.420 than the last four years without him.

02:39:13.260 And so for all those reasons,

02:39:15.060 I think that there's much

02:39:16.380 to be encouraged about.

02:39:18.380 And let's keep praying

02:39:19.540 because the funny business

02:39:20.940 happened before.

02:39:21.860 It could happen again.

02:39:23.440 But let's keep praying.

02:39:24.580 But this time,

02:39:25.200 it looks a lot better.

02:39:25.940 Can we get one last update before we close out?

02:39:29.480 What's the overall percentage?

02:39:31.280 It was 89%.

02:39:32.300 So New York Times has the overall percentage at 89 still.

02:39:35.160 Okay, 89%.

02:39:36.080 Popular vote prediction is one point exactly on the nose.

02:39:43.800 Okay, so we were 0.1%, then we got to 0.5%.

02:39:47.380 We got all the way up to 1.5%.

02:39:49.320 1.1, I think that was our age.

02:39:50.400 Or 1.1, and now we're at just one.

02:39:52.940 Yep.

02:39:53.720 So still, just to put it into perspective for the listener,

02:39:57.760 in a presidential race, it's exceedingly rare.

02:40:02.500 Has it happened since Reagan that Republicans have won the popular vote?

02:40:05.920 Bush might have won.

02:40:06.720 Bush did.

02:40:07.760 Yep.

02:40:08.320 He did?

02:40:08.680 Okay.

02:40:09.540 One of the years.

02:40:10.780 Senior or?

02:40:11.800 No, W.

02:40:12.540 W.

02:40:12.820 Okay, so one of his terms, Bush won the popular vote.

02:40:16.600 But the point still stands that the vast majority of the time,

02:40:20.100 over at least the last 30 years or so um republicans you know they they do win sometimes but uh rarely

02:40:26.220 do they win the popular vote it's usually um falls to the electoral college so for trump to be up

02:40:31.260 um one percent which doesn't sound like a lot but just keep in perspective it's a lot usually the

02:40:37.640 the republican candidate doesn't win the popular vote at all and right now he's up by a full

02:40:41.920 percentage point projected to keep it too and projected to keep it yep uh and that's in the

02:40:46.960 popular vote and uh and then that will um absolutely mean um maybe not a landslide but a

02:40:53.520 solid solid victory in the electoral college uh last state update so pennsylvania 81 of the vote

02:41:00.080 in trump the lead by three percent 200 000 votes uh michigan 40 in trump leading by five percent

02:41:07.960 almost 110 000 votes trump in wisconsin 70 of the vote in up by three percent about 75 000 votes as

02:41:16.600 well there new york times is all of them leaning republican all of them okay so go back real quick

02:41:21.560 so this is the rust belt go back to minnesota is the only one that's not really leaning trump okay

02:41:26.060 go back to um pennsylvania what was it pennsylvania 81 of the vote is in so a lot four-fifths and

02:41:32.820 trump is up 51 to 48 for a total of about 200 oh we just extended it about 210 000 votes

02:41:40.840 that would have to be made up from philadelphia county michigan 40 of the vote is in trump up by

02:41:48.020 five percent 115 000 votes wisconsin 70 of the vote in trump's up by three percent if he takes

02:41:55.760 these wisconsin's 10 michigan is 15 pennsylvania is 19 he's one with georgia where georgia isn't

02:42:03.780 called yet by new york times but it's gonna go for trump so just those three plus georgia uh even if

02:42:09.660 they take arizona and nevada he's still got it yep which he likely won't uh the way early voting

02:42:14.500 looks but uh if those are wrapped up he won't what uh arizona it doesn't look too close for

02:42:20.420 to trump he's pulling ahead it's still pretty close but um let me check once just quickly on

02:42:26.520 that ballot on elect abortion that i mentioned earlier oh the arizona one yep yeah arizona this

02:42:31.380 is proposition 139 uh carrie lake is losing by about six percent we called attention to that

02:42:37.820 earlier proposition 139 is yes to 130 yes 63 this proposition would amend the state of arizona's

02:42:47.580 constitution to establish a fundamental right to the procedure limiting the state's power to

02:42:51.520 interfere with this right before fetal viability which on the books and jeff durbin and those guys

02:42:55.920 they fought it it was on the books that abortion was illegal i remember in arizona like it's still

02:43:00.620 on the books and this is going to remove it in a state that's about to vote for trump yeah likely

02:43:05.160 or it'll be very close which state arizona um wicked yeah and you said florida that uh

02:43:13.800 it did not pass did not pass but it needed uh not a simple majority but a 60 percent to pass

02:43:18.920 and it got 57 percent and it barely that was with ron desantis who is he fought tooth and nail for

02:43:27.960 that thing i heard steve day saying today um that ron desantis fought by himself with the group of

02:43:34.440 ragtag grassroots people and none of the pro-life uh organizations did anything to help with that

02:43:39.880 right really yeah uh dave logan said um uh bush won the popular vote after 9 11. that checks out

02:43:47.320 the context oh that makes sense yeah and trump won florida at this point all the votes are in

02:43:51.080 pretty much he won it by 13 wow yeah so by 57 56 he won and 56 7 voted for the ballot trump was

02:44:01.160 against it and he didn't do a great job fighting he could have fought it more uh de santis fought

02:44:05.140 it well dave said that of the ballots cast so far 22 to 23 percent of all total ballots have

02:44:15.140 been from evangelicals which is very very low yep 25 normally yep if not higher yep and you're

02:44:22.460 talking about with uh the amendment no just in this election white turnout is down it's way down

02:44:28.840 Yeah, it's down. A lot of them feel betrayed. And I get it. I understand. And yet, here's the sad reality. Again, this is just descriptive, you know, just acknowledging the lay of the land. We're not saying that, oh, yeah, this is great. But Trump is getting, you know, big picture is Trump is getting less of the evangelical turnout. And yet is more than moderate is more poised to win.

02:44:57.340 yep yep um and so you know like all all the guys who you know and i remember thinking this

02:45:03.800 for several months now uh but all the guys saying like you know um you know if trump loses the

02:45:10.340 election because he it's because he lost the evangelical vote he has no one to blame but

02:45:14.560 himself well it turns out um trump did the calculus and he made the right decision um i'm not i'm not

02:45:21.640 saying he made the morally right decision the politically right but yeah but what i'm saying

02:45:25.320 is that, sadly, that's where we are right now, 0.98

02:45:28.720 is that evangelicals are so puny and so weak 0.98

02:45:35.020 that Trump said, 0.96

02:45:36.640 if I lean to the evangelicals, I may lose.

02:45:42.640 And if I do a big tent and entertain a bunch of,

02:45:48.340 have a Sikh prayer at the GOP, whatever,

02:45:55.060 event, you know, and I do this and I do that, I'll have a better chance of winning.

02:46:01.540 Hey, Nate, move that down a bit, because we can't see it with the, sorry, is this saying

02:46:08.180 that Missouri, they had a ban on abortion, and the constitutional amendment is going

02:46:12.880 to overturn it, and it looks like it's going to pass?

02:46:15.440 Maybe, it's at 69%, somebody asked about it.

02:46:18.400 Yeah, so Missouri Amendment 3 is at...

02:46:22.140 Do they have to get 60%?

02:46:25.060 it's probably 50 percent uh right now missouri amendment three for the individual that asked

02:46:30.300 is trending towards yes this would approve the amendment which would rescind the band as i

02:46:36.580 understand it 54 percent passing right now no we're in trouble yep good news white pills

02:46:47.880 yeah uh the senate races in nebraska in wisconsin in michigan and pa the republican is leading in

02:46:54.460 of them okay nice which if that holds would give trump a 54 46 senate with also jd vance as a

02:47:00.940 tiebreaker yep wow which would be awesome yep cary lake will lose in arizona um montana still

02:47:09.980 too little to sell north carolina just called trump is that true yep yep north carolina's for

02:47:14.860 trump so he's taken georgia he's taken north carolina um rust belt states okay where it sits

02:47:21.260 all righty well um me and my wife need to go have a baby

02:47:28.580 i feel like it's i feel like tonight could be the night you're having babies lots of people

02:47:34.840 are making babies tonight yeah that's true celebrating yeah that's true all right well

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The NXR Podcast - November 06, 2024

THE LIVESTREAM - Return of the King ｜ 2024 Presidential Election Livestream

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