The NXR Podcast - November 14, 2024


THE LIVESTREAM - "Sinful Ethnic Partiality?" - The Statement on CN & The Reveal Of Baby Mabel


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00:00:44.640 The final version of the statement on Christian nationalism and the gospel has been released,
00:00:51.040 and it is already taking fire from those on the left, which is, of course, to be expected,
00:00:55.920 but also those on the right. Now at the heart of the hubbub is a question of how much blood
00:01:02.760 and a bloodline affects the definition of a nation. Some have objected that ancestral lineage
00:01:10.340 doesn't matter at all, which is not our position. And others have said that the statement is simply
00:01:16.320 a form of globalist propaganda, which is also not our position. So how should we think about
00:01:23.580 this question in our time. What is a nation? What is also, we're going to be getting into what people
00:01:30.000 are really bothered by, what is sinful ethnic partiality? And also at the very end, Lord willing,
00:01:36.980 we will have a little bit of a visit from my daughter, Mabel. All right, tune in now.
00:01:42.260 all right i'm gonna be honest with you this one it's going behind the paywall it's not something
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00:02:43.660 in order to discredit this ministry
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00:02:48.620 And honestly, I'm not willing to let that happen.
00:02:51.480 What conversation am I even talking about?
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00:03:15.700 here's a couple clips just to whet your appetite and so our entire moral framework is based around
00:03:20.920 1930 and 1940 and every every bad thing is hitler every every failure to confront the bad thing is
00:03:28.880 Neville Chamberlain and, you know, Saddam Hussein, Hitler, Vladimir Putin, Hitler, Donald Trump, 0.50
00:03:35.480 Hitler, right? That's the only moral framework that we have that is operable.
00:03:40.400 So the moment that a young man crosses the aisle and the don't believe your lying eyes rhetoric
00:03:46.680 doesn't work any longer and he, you know, he's just noticed too much because it really is that
00:03:51.500 blatantly obvious. And he has nowhere else to go. And he crosses the aisle. Well, the moment he
00:03:54.400 crosses the aisle, there's no reasonable, wise, mature leader over there.
00:03:57.560 You would just have the guys on the TV telling them, this is what the Bible says.
00:04:02.480 You have to believe this, right?
00:04:04.020 On the radio, the Christian radio stations, you'd only hear those guys preaching that particular thing.
00:04:10.300 When that is actually, when you look at all of church history, that's the minority view, a tiny minority view.
00:04:18.700 The rest of theological history in the church is the kind of stuff that we're saying.
00:04:26.480 Yeah.
00:04:26.700 this one's a banger. Again, go to patreon.com forward slash right response ministries to get
00:04:33.340 all nine parts ad free right now, available today. Good afternoon, gentlemen. GA. GA, as they say,
00:04:45.860 as the kids say. As the cool kids say. How long has Trump been president now? Three, four months,
00:04:50.200 it feels like? Feels like, yeah. We're almost at the end of his term, right? We're ready for the
00:04:53.880 actually yeah no man what a whirlwind of a week and just a week ago well i guess a week and a day
00:05:00.620 we did the election night coverage and right yeah seems like uh seems like the future is a little
00:05:05.900 brighter this week it does especially if you bought bitcoin a week and a half ago when do
00:05:10.800 you guys think it'll hit a 100k is that what 89 88 something like that it's by today 93 and then
00:05:16.340 it's made to 89 right now about 88 um i think thanksgiving yeah if it becomes a strategic
00:05:21.560 reserve asset yep i think 100k so you know you had all-time highs which was like 67 and it actually
00:05:27.640 beat that before the having because you had blackrock and all these major investors coming
00:05:30.720 in before um so it got up to new all-time high 74 before the having in april and then just kind of
00:05:36.500 went sideways forever which honestly follows the four-year cycle but um 100k i think you know so
00:05:42.260 then 74 became the new all-time high that's a barrier broke through that shattered that um
00:05:47.880 uh but i think 100k so now it's all psychological kind of barriers you know and then just of course
00:05:53.440 like uh the the practical parameters of like market cap and stuff like that like you because
00:05:58.020 you need like 10 trillion right um you know into flowing into crypto not all in bitcoin but but like
00:06:04.540 the lion's share of that you know 60 70 you know 75 percent of that would be in bitcoin with a 10
00:06:09.700 trillion dollar you know market cap in order for it to hit what some guys are projecting you know
00:06:13.820 in this four-year cycle but uh anyways all that being said i think 100k will be a psychological
00:06:18.520 barrier i think it'll hit 100k um i think it'll hit it before thanksgiving i think so and then
00:06:24.260 i hope you're right yeah and then and then uh by end of year i think um i think will be i hope it's
00:06:31.440 like 100k because i have some other things that i want to move over to bitcoin i'm kind of like
00:06:35.400 with bitcoin i'm like wait wait hold on because i'm i'm doing some uh some stuff with with tesla
00:06:40.840 right now so um anyways but i think uh i think by end of year um my prediction is is like 110
00:06:47.560 but i'm i'm i'm wary that it'll be like already like 120k and the reason why i don't want that
00:06:52.620 is because in terms of like multiples and stuff like that um i think i think this cycle by end
00:06:57.260 of 2025 i think you're looking at uh like peak bull cycle for this four-year run i think you're
00:07:02.380 looking at 170 to 250 bitcoin and uh and i would love to come in at like 100k and get that potential
00:07:08.340 get your 100 percent two and a half ratio you know uh two and a half x instead of come in at
00:07:12.860 like 120 130 140 and then it goes to 200 instead of you know and i got like a you know whatever
00:07:19.240 that is 45 right okay so all right that's enough what does that have to do with the nations we are
00:07:24.000 not sure yeah well it gets to your analogy that you were giving us like you know like money and
00:07:29.980 bitcoin versus like yeah you know nations but anyways um okay great so we're going to be talking
00:07:35.460 about the newly finalized, not newly released. There've been drafts out for quite a while,
00:07:41.180 but the newly finalized, so the final draft of the statement on Christian nationalism and the
00:07:45.960 gospel. And by the way, Joel, is that back up on the internet? Do we know?
00:07:48.860 Yeah, we got it up today. So what happened was that, you know, it's been sitting in draft form
00:07:53.840 forever and the domain expired and it cost money and Dusty Devers actually hosts the domain and
00:08:00.440 we didn't want it to all fall on him. So then I reached out to James Silverman who works with
00:08:03.880 dusty and said uh write responsible write a check to you know if if you guys just put it back up we'll
00:08:08.880 mail you a check so that's back up now and just for the record everybody who was like you said it
00:08:12.960 was going to come out you know like a long time ago i did say that um uh we announced at our
00:08:17.480 conference all the way back in march um that it was going to come out uh like in within two weeks
00:08:23.420 of our conference so still in the month of march and the only reason it didn't is because um some
00:08:28.380 of the guys who were uh signers on the statement reached out to me privately and said that um it
00:08:32.780 was right before um that timeline we would have been dropping it right before the southern baptist
00:08:37.180 convention and some of these guys were really you know william wolf being one of them and i don't
00:08:41.220 think he would mind me naming him because it's all positive there's nothing bad about it william
00:08:44.400 wolf is a stud but he was working really hard with cbl which was brand new organization at the time
00:08:50.100 conservative baptist leaders and um and the southern baptist conventions coming up and he
00:08:55.940 didn't want to be seen um as as um over the top radical um you know or more radical than he needs
00:09:02.540 to it's like i want to have um a strong conservative position but i don't want to be
00:09:06.540 viewed as a ridiculous radical and so so anyway so he gave me um permission ahead of time uh with
00:09:12.380 the conference and said yeah we can release it on this date you know which was two weeks from
00:09:15.460 the conference so then i get up in front of 850 uh 850 people live at the conference and say we're
00:09:21.040 releasing it march whatever it was i can't remember march 17th or you know um and then
00:09:25.620 william uh and and some other guys too you know reached back out and was like uh we changed our
00:09:30.440 mind it's gonna like we're we're already getting flack um with the sbc and people are pushing on
00:09:36.020 saying that we're too radical i can't have the statement drop with my name so then we waited
00:09:39.360 and then um it started getting closer to the national election um and so um so uh mother
00:09:46.520 jones as a lot of you guys saw uh are you saying there was an effort to link christian nationalism
00:09:51.720 with the republican party or donald trump 100 and not just not just the the generic you know
00:09:57.620 marjorie taylor green christian nationalism but but a very oh yeah full-throated joel levin stephen
00:10:02.600 wolf andrew riskier brian sauvet you know eric protestant uh you know yeah and and we were named 0.86
00:10:07.780 and so mother jones you know which is a large organization they're they're libtards but but
00:10:12.920 they're still large um and so you know they write this article of uh if you want to know jd vance 0.91
00:10:18.220 so it was right when trump picked jd vance so we're thinking about launching you know as well
00:10:21.900 after southern bathroom's convention really let's launch the statement but um but then you know trump
00:10:26.120 made his pick of jd vance for vp which we're all super excited about um and and when that happened
00:10:31.580 mother jones said if you want to understand jd vance you need to meet the theo bros yeah and
00:10:35.860 started tying you know newfounding nate fisher and santiago pliego and all all these different guys
00:10:40.400 um to uh jd vance and to be honest those ties are real and we can acknowledge them a little
00:10:46.300 bit more now because we won so take that you know so it doesn't like you write as many articles as
00:10:54.580 you want mother jones we won you lost praise god christ is king and trump is president-elect and so
00:11:00.600 um so yeah there are ties uh mother jones uh they nailed it on the head there actually are some
00:11:05.080 ties uh there with jd vance and and there's just a couple steps away from uh president of the
00:11:09.840 united states praise god and uh so we waited because here's the other thing uh like william
00:11:14.840 wolf um you know he's like let's not drop the statement because it's going to mess up what i'm
00:11:19.100 doing the sbc and that matters and then you know at the national stage it's like all right let's
00:11:23.580 not drop this state so we dropped it on november 6th after trump was elected which was a great day
00:11:29.040 it was the uh uh trump becomes president-elect the statement drops and my daughter mabel uh our
00:11:34.340 fifth child was born i thought it was trumpolina heck yeah a little trumpolina uh mabel uh mabel
00:11:39.400 donald uh we haven't uh uh maybe we actually her middle name is joy uh the kamala's campaign was
00:11:44.660 all about joy but it was a fake joy there was no joy whatsoever and uh so we named her on the day
00:11:50.480 that uh kamala um uh completely tanked and uh has to go away in shame uh lord willing never to be
00:11:57.680 heard of again on that day um i you know gave my daughter uh her middle name true joy joy actually
00:12:03.720 does come in the morning, but it's a real joy. And Kamala knows nothing of that joy because she
00:12:08.080 rejected that joy in her prime when she could have had a family and she could have had children. 0.95
00:12:14.240 She said no to that joy and chose tyranny instead. But God is merciful and he gives us often as
00:12:21.540 Americans far more than we deserve. And he sent Kamala packing her and her filth and her grime 0.99
00:12:27.620 and her evil. And my daughter was born on that day. Mabel, Joy, Webin, true joy. And the statement
00:12:35.620 was launched because it'll still, you know, it'll still be viewed as controversial. But
00:12:42.320 on the foreseeable horizon, there's nothing to mess up. Good. For the, you know, the new future,
00:12:48.260 the near future. So that's why we dropped it. All right. So what we're going to do is we're
00:12:52.400 going to jump in and we're going to look at two really phrases. I mean, we're going to read two
00:12:56.440 paragraphs, but we're really looking at two phrases in particular, uh, that people have
00:13:00.060 questioned, uh, legitimately have had questions about, and also have reacted to before we do.
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00:14:37.320 so we're going to pull up a couple of the pieces of the statement on christian nationalism and the
00:14:42.080 gospel and uh we'll read through what the uh what the controversy is about nate do you have that
00:14:48.900 there we go. So this is from Article 4. This is the definition of a nation, and it says,
00:14:52.920 We affirm that a nation is not merely an idea, abstract principle, or ideology, but tangibly
00:14:57.540 defined by a particular body of people in a particular place. We affirm that a particular
00:15:01.880 people are necessarily bound together by shared culture, customs, history, and lineage, while
00:15:06.940 sharing common interests, virtues, languages, and worship. We affirm in regards to place that a
00:15:11.920 nation is definitively set by both its borders and times, physically defined by God, Acts 17.26.
00:15:17.760 Thus, we affirm that nations should rightly maintain autonomous government of their people in place with the necessary rights and duties to, one, prioritize the security of its people by maintaining its borders, providing for its common defense, and repelling invasions from without and insurrections from within, and two, promote the prosperity of its citizens, and three, enforce justice.
00:15:40.360 And then the next slide, and this is the denial, and this is the first thing that we'll touch on
00:15:46.280 then. We deny that a nation should cede its sovereignty to international bodies that may
00:15:51.120 subvert the will of the national interest for a global order. We deny any efforts to establish a
00:15:56.240 one-world governmental system before the return of Christ, as such efforts are a reenactment of 0.91
00:16:01.860 the Tower of Babel. We further deny that sovereign nations must only be composed of monoethnic
00:16:08.080 populations to be united under god therefore as christian nationalists we utterly repudiate
00:16:12.800 sinful ethnic partiality in all its various forms and so we're going to take up that last phrase
00:16:17.940 um about utterly repudiating sinful ethnic partiality in all of its various forms first
00:16:23.920 and then we'll come back and pick up a few other things right so for guys on the right when they
00:16:27.740 read this they were they were frustrated and uh i i'm thinking of uh talladega nights uh when will
00:16:33.840 ferrell um his character ricky bobby he's uh there's the french dude uh and in typical french
00:16:40.680 fashion uh he's he's uh f-o-t-r uh he's he's gay and um and so uh you know will ferrell yeah he 0.72
00:16:49.340 walks in the room and he's like he's like i'm getting dizzy from all the games i feel like 0.93
00:16:55.540 some of the guys on the right you know read this uh sinful ethnic partiality and they're like 0.91
00:16:59.500 like faking gay alarms are going off like crazy i'm getting i'm getting dizzy from all the gayness
00:17:04.820 and the statement um so we want to do our best to define that uh and explain and we recognize uh 0.93
00:17:10.720 right out of the gate we want to uh say yeah we recognize that there's uh there's no historic
00:17:14.760 precedent for uh for this phrase for this term um because there never had to be and and not there
00:17:21.440 never had to be because uh now people are racist and blah blah blah um we don't want to we don't
00:17:26.620 want to prop up and promote fake sins. We don't want to do that because it's unhelpful, it's
00:17:33.000 unbiblical, and it's just a weapon to bludgeon people who are faithful to Christ and try to
00:17:38.280 shut them up. So we don't want to sit here and do the devil's bidding by championing fake sins.
00:17:47.580 But the problem, part of the difficulty is because of globalism. Globalism has won the day,
00:17:55.140 And we'd like to push back on that.
00:17:57.520 And by God's grace, we'd like to eradicate globalism
00:18:00.520 because we really do believe
00:18:01.880 in the technical sense of the word that it is satanic.
00:18:04.400 It is, it's exactly,
00:18:07.000 that what God did at the Tower of Babel was not,
00:18:10.560 it was a judgment
00:18:12.820 because they were seeking to make a name for themselves
00:18:16.460 and exalt a structure that reached to the heavens.
00:18:19.400 They were trying to be,
00:18:20.340 they were trying to garner for themselves greater glory than god so the sin was pride the sin was
00:18:25.840 arrogance um but but god didn't just uh deliver to them a judgment for sin but contained within
00:18:32.760 this judgment was also his providence and mercy um uh god's divisions and dispersions of the nations
00:18:41.980 at babel was not merely a judgment um but but it was also a plan it was his plan and it was good
00:18:49.760 and it actually contained mercy within it.
00:18:51.880 Because here's the thing that we forget
00:18:53.120 about leading up to Babel. 0.91
00:18:55.080 The sin is not only arrogance. 0.65
00:18:57.460 I already stated that,
00:18:58.180 trying to make a name for themselves
00:18:59.180 and trying to exalt a structure up to the heavens
00:19:01.380 to be as God.
00:19:02.600 But it wasn't only the sin of arrogance,
00:19:04.840 but it was also the sin of not spreading out
00:19:07.520 and filling the earth.
00:19:08.620 The original plan, right,
00:19:10.400 the cultural mandate that's given 0.60
00:19:12.220 is that they would go and disperse and fill the earth. 0.90
00:19:14.280 And here's the deal.
00:19:15.340 Practically, what would have happened
00:19:16.740 if they had obeyed?
00:19:18.660 They weren't obeying.
00:19:19.300 they were saying, God told us to fill the earth and subdue it, to spread out, and to be fruitful
00:19:24.040 and multiply, and to fill the whole earth, to spread out. And they were saying, no, they were
00:19:30.040 being disobedient. They weren't just being arrogant. They were disobeying God's clear
00:19:35.040 commandment. They're saying, instead of spreading out and filling the whole earth, we're going to
00:19:39.020 congregate, and we're going to stay right here, and we're going to speak one language and have
00:19:44.840 one culture and one set of values and priorities and all these kinds of things, and our ultimate
00:19:51.000 value and priority is going to be to exalt ourselves, to exalt man over and against God,
00:19:55.840 the Creator. Now, the problem, when you think about it logically, what would have happened
00:20:00.800 if they didn't disobey? What would have happened in a prelapsarian world if sin had never ended,
00:20:05.480 not just disobedience with Babel, but the Tower of Babel, but what if Adam and Eve had never even 0.71
00:20:11.240 sin to begin with. Well, if they had obeyed God, were fruitful, multiplied, and spread out and
00:20:16.200 filled the whole earth, over time, people from one family still would have had distinctions.
00:20:24.780 They would have eventually developed different dialects, which would eventually have become
00:20:28.740 different languages. They would have had different cultures and customs and cuisines
00:20:35.500 and all these kinds of things. And death never would enter the world, so nobody would have
00:20:41.100 died. So you'd have a tribe that eventually would have been, a clan that became a tribe that
00:20:46.080 eventually would have become a nation and spoke even entirely different language that would
00:20:50.160 maybe go on a pilgrimage, you know, once every century to go and visit their great, great,
00:20:55.360 great, great, great, great grandfather, Adam. But they would have been distinct from Adam.
00:21:00.540 And it would have been good. There would have been nations. So the point is,
00:21:04.400 nations are not a judgment. Distinct nations are not a judgment of Babel. But they're actually,
00:21:11.100 the original plan and commandment that God gave in the cultural mandate that Babel was rebelling
00:21:15.400 against, and God doesn't just punish everyone gathered there at the Tower of Babel by saying,
00:21:22.400 well, you were being arrogant and prideful, and so therefore I'm going to slap you on the wrist 0.93
00:21:27.420 by giving you different languages. It is a punishment, but it's not merely a punishment, 0.99
00:21:31.960 it's actually a mercy. They were directly disobeying God's command to spread out,
00:21:37.140 and and then god says in his judgment he says i'm going to get you i'm you've derailed yourself
00:21:42.820 with rebellion to my commandment and my judgment is i'm going to put you back on the rails and i'm
00:21:47.880 actually going to expedite uh your obedience that should have been there yeah i'm going to make your
00:21:53.220 obedience happen i'm going to cause you to walk in my ways and to do what i originally planned and
00:21:58.240 all this is good so but all that being said we do live in unprecedented times america it's it's
00:22:06.340 it's complicated it's hard what do you do when you when you discover a landmass the third the
00:22:11.380 size of asia um and and you discover in terms of human history like 15 minutes ago um and and a
00:22:18.380 bunch of people different people from different nations actual nations with different languages
00:22:22.560 and different customs and different um ethnos and all these different things move here right
00:22:28.420 that that's the problem that um that we have to figure out and it is a very modern problem so
00:22:34.160 so when you say well calvin uh calvin didn't talk about uh uh sinful ethnic partiality yeah uh-huh
00:22:40.080 yeah calvin didn't talk about it uh calvin uh was not dealing with some of the novel problems
00:22:45.760 and complexities that we're dealing with today and talk about pornography right but like
00:22:51.520 yeah and i was gonna say calvin didn't say you know when he was exegeting the love of money is
00:22:55.440 the root of all evil he doesn't say the love of bitcoin what's wrong with calvin yeah you know yeah
00:23:00.460 Well, it wasn't a thing.
00:23:01.860 Well, so much of globalism, too.
00:23:03.380 Some of it is nefarious, but some of it is just we've advanced in technology.
00:23:07.180 I can take out an app on my phone and learn a foreign language enough that I could be an exchange student or go visit or study abroad in a time of six months.
00:23:15.280 That never existed before.
00:23:17.460 It was not possible if you were an Israelite simply to pick up another language, especially half the world away.
00:23:22.640 I can be in China right now.
00:23:24.660 I could book a flight, Austin International, 12 hours.
00:23:28.420 I could be anywhere in the world.
00:23:30.300 And that changes things.
00:23:32.140 Like people, when you came to like grew up
00:23:35.380 and you grew up in a land that you worked hard at,
00:23:37.800 you didn't travel far,
00:23:39.120 that shaped your perception of the world.
00:23:41.080 Your sphere of interest, it was local.
00:23:44.060 But now when we're able to see news
00:23:45.520 that's happening all over the world,
00:23:46.920 send money instantly via Bitcoin, for example,
00:23:49.840 anywhere in the world,
00:23:51.100 human beings have a much more internal,
00:23:54.600 broad sense of things than we ever used to have.
00:23:57.380 and i don't even know that that's necessarily nefarious right i don't think it's good we've
00:24:01.800 talked about this before should you know everything that's going on in the world every tragedy every
00:24:05.840 natural disaster right no probably not your fallenness can't handle it yeah yep and your
00:24:10.400 finitude can't handle it even if we were unfallen it's still not good for us even if we were sinless
00:24:17.140 we're not god we're always going to we're not always going to be fallen for those who are in
00:24:21.300 christ jesus when we see him we will be like him for we shall see him as he is first john uh we
00:24:26.480 will be sinless like christ so sin one day um you know the power is broken the penalty is paid and
00:24:31.500 the very presence of sin one day will be no more but even then we'll still be creaturely we'll still
00:24:36.820 be finite and and as finite creatures yeah i can't i don't need to know what's going on in lebanon
00:24:43.420 maybe a little bit you know but like but there's you know like if it's if it's massive and it really
00:24:48.760 does affect america um but there's a ton of things where it's just like i'm you know i'm happy for
00:24:54.600 You know, like this news story, the proper response is,
00:24:57.700 I'm happy for you or I'm sorry that happened, whichever one.
00:25:00.060 I'm not reading all that.
00:25:00.940 Whichever one feels, you know?
00:25:02.400 I care, yeah.
00:25:03.040 The other thing to say is global trade is not even necessarily inherently bad.
00:25:07.880 I mean, Ezekiel 28, I know there's some, who is the king of Tyre?
00:25:12.260 Is God talking about Satan?
00:25:14.220 But there is a sense there where God laments the fact that this king
00:25:19.040 is going to be judged and it's going to decimate global trade.
00:25:22.500 And he speaks very highly in Ezekiel 28.
00:25:24.600 of how good for the world at that time
00:25:27.120 the global trade that had been established was. 0.95
00:25:29.660 Real quick, somebody in the chat is either being silly 0.93
00:25:33.140 or is just misinformed. 0.91
00:25:34.920 And so I'm gonna give them the benefit of the doubt
00:25:36.600 and not treat them disrespectfully.
00:25:39.680 But he said, the question is, can you affirm,
00:25:42.320 I think he just doesn't understand our position.
00:25:44.560 And that's why we're doing this episode.
00:25:47.060 He must think we're libs.
00:25:48.840 The question is, can you affirm the right
00:25:50.760 of a mono-ethnic nation to exist?
00:25:53.100 or will you behave like egalitarian liberals
00:25:56.620 and deny thousands of years
00:25:58.400 of white Christian European nationhood?
00:26:00.340 So I'll answer it like this.
00:26:03.600 Right Response Ministries fully affirms
00:26:06.800 the legitimate nationhood of Japan. 1.00
00:26:10.120 It's monoethnic. 0.98
00:26:11.680 There's no debate.
00:26:13.060 Zambia is 99% African. 0.86
00:26:14.780 Yeah, Zambia.
00:26:16.180 We think that Zambia is a legit nation.
00:26:19.880 And if Zambia wants to stay that way,
00:26:22.000 they're allowed to do it.
00:26:23.100 and it's perfectly permissible it is not a sin uh 100 yep and european nations like england
00:26:30.460 that actually were 100 brits right um once upon a time sadly not anymore but once upon a time uh
00:26:38.980 they were uh it would have uh that was a legitimate it's still a legitimate nation
00:26:42.980 although there are major problems that need to be sorted through it was when it was 100 you know
00:26:48.020 white british people it was also um a legitimate nation uh at that time and at that time they uh
00:26:55.140 would have had the right sadly they didn't do it but they would have had the right to say uh yeah 0.65
00:27:00.020 no uh muslim invasions into our country we're going to stay this way so absolutely 100 we support 0.95
00:27:05.700 that um in the statement we say we deny uh what we're saying is we believe america is a nation 1.00
00:27:11.540 if we don't deny if when we say uh we uh i forget how we word it but maybe we can pull it back up
00:27:20.940 again but when we say um uh we deny uh that uh here it is that a nation should cede blah blah
00:27:27.540 we deny second sense now any efforts to establish one world we further deny that sovereign nations
00:27:32.640 must only be composed of mono-ethnic populations to be united under god uh what we're saying there
00:27:38.600 is that america is a legitimate nation state america has problems and complexes uh complexities
00:27:43.860 but um if a nation uh so do we um do we deny that uh uh that you can have a legitimate nation
00:27:51.740 and and that it's not inherently sinful for a nation to be mono-ethnic no of course of course
00:27:56.380 japan is a legitimate nation right now we'd like to see japan be christian amen i don't care if
00:28:01.760 japan is ever diverse ethnically right i i think it's kind of cool that japan is japan yeah i think
00:28:07.280 that's great if i ever visit japan which i don't intend on doing but if i ever visited japan um i
00:28:12.980 would like to see a bunch of japanese people and eat japanese food you know and and i'd like to
00:28:18.400 you know try to uh visit some japanese samurai you know museum and stuff like that and if i show up
00:28:24.940 in japan and half of the people are white you know and 40 of them are black and you know and
00:28:28.960 8 are mexicans and 2 are japan japanese i'm going to be disappointed you know so so 100 of course
00:28:35.820 we affirm i don't i don't know who this guy is he obviously doesn't watch our show but of course
00:28:39.880 we affirm that um that a nation can be mono-ethnic um not only can it be but in many cases it's
00:28:46.600 actually um positive right and and there are some incredible but here's the deal um the guys who
00:28:53.220 wrote the statement live in america and guys i i don't know what to tell you uh but for america
00:28:58.660 look around i went to costco today right nothing radicalizes me like going to costco i just had
00:29:05.760 my fifth kid fourth girl right okay so you're talking to a guy who um uh in less than uh
00:29:13.060 two weeks uh just watched trump win in a landslide had his fourth daughter born and then and then uh
00:29:21.880 went on a trip to costco uh this life-changing events so i am as radicalized and red-pilled as
00:29:27.180 a man could possibly be right now okay so i'm i'm not gonna be squishy uh for anybody on this
00:29:31.840 episode. But here's the deal. At Costco, I see what you see in Costco. Dude, America is a ton
00:29:43.260 of different nations. And so we can talk about America as an empire, and there certainly are
00:29:48.600 empirical elements and characteristics of America. But I love America, and I want America to be a
00:29:56.280 country not just an empire but a nation um and but for us to to get back to some of that um one
00:30:04.360 we need mass deportations which is one of the reasons why i voted for trump um every every
00:30:09.100 start with the criminals you can start with the homeless you know the murderers first and
00:30:12.740 work your way down then those who are on welfare who are here illegally and all this kind of stuff
00:30:16.720 but eventually here's the deal eventually you're going to get um to uh heritage america right that's
00:30:24.120 the way you look at cj you know angle or um isker you know like heritage america steven wolf it's a
00:30:30.520 good term but here's the deal heritage america is it predominantly white is it more white than
00:30:35.020 america's current population yes yes of course it is of course we acknowledge that um but but even
00:30:40.920 heritage america is not exclusively white it's just not that's just not the the founding of our
00:30:47.340 country you read alexis de tocqueville i'm working through democracy in america which is the
00:30:51.060 foundational text for a lot of our political studies and in the book he has a chapter on the
00:30:55.240 three races in america and he speaks of the white man the negro and the indian and they're recognizing
00:31:00.080 it just always was composed like that so you just talk about japan what's 97 japanese what happens
00:31:05.720 when you when you live in a in an era of technological advance and i'm talking about
00:31:09.960 400 years ago 500 years ago massive technological advances namely uh able ability to chart stars and
00:31:16.580 and compasses and all these kinds of things and and ships you know and and so when you live in
00:31:21.340 in a boom of technological innovation and there also happens to be a massive land mass that's
00:31:29.420 unsettled right and and just for the record that is the correct term unsettled the indigenous people
00:31:34.620 who were here were not uh they had not settled the land they were nomads who were who were doing
00:31:39.880 drugs worshiping demons um eating each other not just killing each other but eating each other
00:31:45.720 constantly especially in the north america yep and and i'm from texas i remember learning about
00:31:50.540 the calico indians but the cannibalistic on the south the central american aztecs that was yes
00:31:55.140 yes human sacrifices piled mounds of skulls so um so here's the deal um uh the land was not theirs
00:32:03.080 it wasn't um we came our ancestors came settled the land and and then what i would argue is around
00:32:11.220 about 1890 for let me add slavery was a big one like in the 1800s so japan 99 japanese right in
00:32:19.280 1800 the united states was about 20 black most of them were enslaved 20 a couple million that 0.88
00:32:25.420 were free blacks those were brought to us by the slave trade which jews were actually complicit in
00:32:30.480 so we had people brought over i love how you just worked that i just i got the research right here
00:32:36.500 There was a Theo Vaughn moment right there.
00:32:38.260 But you have the people that with money
00:32:40.360 and everything like that,
00:32:41.280 they had a trade
00:32:41.960 and they brought a bunch of people here.
00:32:43.680 They've been here for 200 years. 1.00
00:32:45.460 Like they're blacks. 1.00
00:32:46.140 They don't have anywhere to go back.
00:32:47.500 They're part of America.
00:32:48.880 And the substantial part.
00:32:50.420 They're not like 1% or like a little colony.
00:32:52.100 And that doesn't mean all black people.
00:32:53.160 If somebody comes over here from Nigeria 0.99
00:32:55.420 and they came literally yesterday
00:32:56.980 and they're here illegally for whatever reason,
00:32:59.680 I'm not saying all Nigerians. 0.90
00:33:00.720 I'm just giving a hypothetical example. 0.95
00:33:02.460 But if it's an illegal Nigerian person 0.92
00:33:04.960 who immigrated here 15 minutes ago you need to go back um you you have to go back yeah um but
00:33:11.060 but if if you can uh track back your your lineage 200 years yeah 400 years then you are part of
00:33:19.840 heritage america and so that that's our whole point and in the statement is saying the mono
00:33:24.220 ethnic part we're saying we deny that a nation must be mono ethic ethnic one ethnicity in order
00:33:31.100 to be legitimate or pleasing to god um we're denying that and ultimately i guess part of what
00:33:37.380 we're saying is we're saying there's hope for our nation for america because america here's the deal
00:33:41.920 spoiler alert um yeah i'm about as far right as you can come but some of you guys who are a little
00:33:48.460 bit further right than me spoiler alert america is never going to be exclusively white yeah it's
00:33:53.640 not going to happen yeah it's not our history it's not our heritage and real quick what i was
00:33:58.100 going to say about the settler thing um uh there is so so different people came and there were
00:34:03.280 waves and everybody was upset every time it happened right everybody was upset about the
00:34:06.660 irish everybody was upset about you know every time there's a new way the italians everybody was 0.92
00:34:11.380 upset you know who can blame them you know the italians get out of here michael knowles you know 0.94
00:34:17.080 are you kidding me um so i like michael knowles but um anyways all that being said um every wave
00:34:22.820 of people coming there was frustration um but there was i think a dynamic historical real
00:34:30.060 moment tangible moment where um it's no longer waves of settlers right uh there are no no one's
00:34:36.580 coming to settle america anymore it's settled so you said the other day but the distinction between
00:34:41.640 a settler and an immigrant yes do you remember what you said um you said a settler is someone
00:34:46.700 who comes to build and to establish right an immigrant comes for the benefits yep for the
00:34:51.700 benefits that have already been built and already been established and just for the record we're
00:34:55.020 not saying and therefore immigration is right unbiblical right you can have some level of
00:34:59.220 immigration now because we've gone so overboard i would argue for america for the next 20 to 50
00:35:04.540 years there should be virtually zero immigration right and i'm not talking about uh illegal i'm
00:35:11.160 talking about legal no immigration um if it's illegal we need a wall there need to be and this
00:35:16.960 is merciful by the way i'm not just trying to be unhinged we need a wall we need guys on that wall
00:35:21.540 standing on top of that wall and if someone starts to to approach the wall there needs to be a 0.92
00:35:27.160 warning back away if they don't listen to the warning they need to be shot they need to be 0.96
00:35:31.700 killed and and my point in saying that is because um that will be the more merciful option because 0.96
00:35:39.460 what will end up happening is you'll have a handful of people that get killed and then
00:35:44.360 thousands of people that don't experience the misery of coming and then having to be removed
00:35:49.320 families split up and all this kind of stuff um that is the more merciful option that is the way
00:35:54.940 biblical justice is done one or two die one is punished and the rest stand in fear that's the
00:35:59.180 bible's that'll be way fewer than the number that die of uh dehydration trying to cross the desert
00:36:04.020 amen so no illegal immigration absolutely zero upon threat of death um and then virtually no
00:36:11.480 uh legal immigration that means a few acceptance exceptions if i was king for the day it would be
00:36:17.220 you'd have to be christian you'd have to be compatible christian's not enough okay so let's
00:36:21.760 pause for a second there's so many jokes i want to say here's one okay um i was just skimming the
00:36:26.020 internet and uh and came up with this uh joke because um apparently some people don't don't
00:36:32.520 quite understand this um i'll pose it as a question all right so it's it's multiple choice
00:36:37.600 there's just two options a and b right so you got a 50 chance now if you are a christian and you
00:36:43.180 live in America and you're over the age of 50, then there's about 100% chance that you'll get
00:36:47.780 this wrong. Even though it's a 50-50. Even though it's 50-50, there's a 100% chance you'll get the
00:36:51.460 question wrong. But for the two of you, you're both under the age of 50, and so I feel like you
00:36:56.380 have a bright future. I'm hopeful. Here's the question. If I make a credible profession of
00:37:02.940 faith, Christian profession of faith, I am entitled to A, membership in a biblical church,
00:37:10.380 or b legal universal citizenship in every nation on the planet which one man
00:37:17.040 by virtue of being a christian in other words i immediately am entitled to belonging to a local
00:37:24.740 church and membership or being a legal citizen i'm gonna have to phone a friend yeah the reason
00:37:31.280 i you know and i'm it's a little facetious sadly it's not even that facetious it's like
00:37:35.400 like it it's um some guys really will fail that question um they they they pretend as though
00:37:42.060 nature doesn't exist that christ just supersedes uh all of nature and that the grace destroys
00:37:48.600 nature rather than elevating restoring nature and and they would basically just say that um if so
00:37:54.240 and so is a christian um if he's uh if there's a christian man in haiti um and he moves here
00:37:59.820 and and he's not a citizen but but he did come legally and he moves here and he's a good christian
00:38:05.800 man then why wouldn't we want him like that like he should be able to be here and if there's a
00:38:10.700 christian guy uh from china if there's a christian guy and uh no that's not the way that's not the
00:38:16.280 way nations work right no he's a christian praise god we praise god for that he's our brother in
00:38:21.780 christ but i don't have a universal right i don't have citizenship in china i can't just walk into
00:38:28.000 china and say hey it's okay i'm a christian don't worry don't worry guys i'm a christian nor could
00:38:34.880 you fit in the church there they would have no ability to minister to you you go for dinners
00:38:39.020 it would be awkward you're trying to translate through google translate because by five years
00:38:42.980 learning the language you still wouldn't be there you wouldn't fit and vice versa they also wouldn't
00:38:48.860 fit even in the church the gathering of the saints who will all be on the final day united and one 0.68
00:38:53.980 together still maintaining our distinctions as revelation says like you just you wouldn't fit
00:38:58.460 because there's natural categories like language and food and culture and habit and loves and
00:39:02.700 history that matter yep yep and so all that being said no illegal uh immigration and then with legal
00:39:08.720 immigration christian absolutely would be first for me yep um if joel was king for a day you'd
00:39:13.220 have to be a christian but be but but it would not be only for me it's not enough it's not enough
00:39:18.720 um so christian yes but then furthermore are you compatible with america are you compatible with
00:39:26.100 america haiti is not compatible with america right it's not it's just not um whereas england is
00:39:33.620 well maybe not used to be you know you know but it's more it's more compatible and so it'd be
00:39:42.080 are you christian are you compatible with america um you know and that would be first and foremost
00:39:47.320 do you speak english um do you have a english european history yeah um and then beyond that
00:39:54.520 um okay and what can you contribute are you an engineer are you a doctor yeah oh you're a pastor
00:40:01.860 we've got enough of those please go back do you know that many other nations do this australia
00:40:07.420 regularly does this they update what they need as a nation and then they give preference to those
00:40:13.720 kind of visa seekers and then if you're not what they need that year or that batch of three years
00:40:18.640 sorry you're going to go to the bottom of the list for consideration like this is not at all
00:40:22.920 abnormal no it's not the interchangeable in this too when stalin came into power in soviet russia
00:40:27.420 one of the things he did was he killed a lot of the bards in ukraine so these were local traveling
00:40:31.880 individuals that maybe had folk religion they sold wares because they gave the local area a flavor
00:40:37.540 of individuality it's not just i live somewhere but i live in this town yeah this is my bard and
00:40:42.260 this is my priest. And communism came in and killed them because for communism, all it is,
00:40:46.680 it's not individuality, it's not culture, it's not lineage, it's not any of these things.
00:40:50.560 It's mechanical economic pieces in a cog. And you can swap them out. You just assign people
00:40:56.460 capacity, IQ for a doctor, who cares? We'll assign X, Y, and Z to that. And so if you have
00:41:01.540 this mindset of like a country is just this place and you can plug in X and you can plug in Z,
00:41:06.460 all that'll work fine uh you have been drastically impacted by the ideology of marxism and communism
00:41:12.880 that thinks of people not again as made by god man woman lineage history you're just you plug in
00:41:19.720 i'm so happy that elon musk like i'm grateful head of doge and he's red pilling by the day
00:41:27.240 but he still doesn't get this you know and part of it he may not get it because he's south african
00:41:32.300 but um he had a tweet not that long ago he's like we need uh no illegal uh immigration but even more
00:41:39.420 legal immigration is like no you know and trump will say similar things because
00:41:45.100 it's it's this this is this is what it is so i'm going to keep saying it it's the post-war
00:41:50.960 consensus it is tear down we're afraid that hitler will come back one day and so anything
00:41:56.560 that hitler liked must be bad uh hitler drank water stop drinking water hitler liked nations 0.86
00:42:01.120 get rid of nationalism so you have to have gay weak inclusivism globalism across the board for 0.84
00:42:07.460 now and forever um that's what it is that is what it is it is the post-war consensus um and and it's 0.98
00:42:13.480 it's got to die it has to die um so when elon he recently said uh he compared america to a football
00:42:19.860 team right and just like putting on a jersey and no nations are not are not sports uh teams and
00:42:27.200 you know what's funny is if you try and do that with an actual football team or a soccer team in
00:42:31.560 england that doesn't go well they're like no no no you don't get to wear our jersey right right
00:42:36.140 you're actually that you're from that city you're not from this city you don't get to root for our
00:42:40.720 team like yeah nor are you even if you wanted to try to play football yeah you haven't trained if
00:42:45.060 you're not that's a good point too on the right stock yeah right you don't really belong on the
00:42:48.900 team either it'll be a disaster yeah they killed on the football team yeah so all that being said
00:42:53.440 let's let's go back to the statement bring it up again uh the denial about the ethnic partiality
00:42:59.000 yeah so now let's get into ethnic partiality so so first when we when we said um further we deny
00:43:06.440 we further deny that uh sovereign nations must only be composed of mono ethnic populations to
00:43:11.840 be united under god um what we're saying there is um uh we're saying that uh we're not saying
00:43:18.740 that there's anything illegitimate about japan right but we're saying that uh but america also
00:43:24.020 is a nation it is and i understand that it functions and has the trappings and in some
00:43:29.600 sense more of an empire but it is a nation and in the ways that it's not a nation we want it to
00:43:35.340 become the founding fathers thought they were birthing a nation they thought they were very
00:43:38.700 explicitly about that and we'd like to get back to that and what we're saying is that in the
00:43:42.320 meantime until we get back to that and when we get back to that um america will never be like japan
00:43:48.440 because it's not the history of america because that's just that's the reality when uh when you
00:43:55.160 discover a massive land mass and spain is coming in and france is coming in and england is coming
00:44:00.980 in and we're transporting slaves and all these different like then then you just you don't get
00:44:06.820 to have a mono-ethnic nation you can have a predominantly mono-ethnic nation because it
00:44:11.340 was predominantly great britain right right so anglo-protestant we must have a mono-culture
00:44:16.140 We've said that a million times as Right Response Ministries.
00:44:19.840 The monoculture, not ethnos, not ethnicity, but culture is Anglo-Protestant, meaning it
00:44:26.680 is Protestant, but not just any kind of Protestant.
00:44:28.820 It is a British Protestant.
00:44:30.700 It is the Protestantism of the Puritans, of the Reformers that came from England with
00:44:36.240 the founders and the Covenanters here in America.
00:44:38.240 That is our culture. 0.58
00:44:39.880 And that does need to be mono.
00:44:41.980 We don't need any other culture. 0.99
00:44:43.120 We need that mono-culture of Anglo-Protestant. 0.95
00:44:48.300 Now, in terms of Anglo-Saxon, in terms of mono-ethnic, we're not going to have that because it's not the beginning of our nation. 0.99
00:44:55.420 However, that said, I do think that we can make improvements, and we must.
00:44:59.680 We must.
00:45:00.760 And what do you mean, improvements?
00:45:02.780 Why do you have to say it like that? 1.00
00:45:04.600 Look, if Japan is kicking out white people, it's an improvement. 1.00
00:45:08.600 For Japan. 1.00
00:45:08.960 For Japan. 0.87
00:45:09.760 so i'm not saying it's an improvement because uh the the percentage of whiteness goes up and and 0.94
00:45:16.100 so whiteness is just an improvement across the board no it's an improvement here because that's 0.85
00:45:20.660 our heritage that's our nation's heritage it would not be an improvement for ghana it would not be an
00:45:26.140 improvement for zambia it would not that's not this is not a white supremacy thing this is just
00:45:31.560 saying that people are allowed to have nations yep and if they're not what the hell are we talking 0.84
00:45:36.620 about i don't we have bought so deep into this fake and gay globalism that that we we can't even 0.98
00:45:44.420 see straight anymore so yeah america needs to kick a bunch of people out and you start with 0.93
00:45:50.120 people who are here illegally you start with that beyond that there may be people who are here
00:45:55.440 legally and i'm not talking about citizens but people with gully what did you say illegally
00:46:00.500 legally legally legally no ill just legally legally but but um but they're not citizens they
00:46:07.160 have a work visa they have a green card they have something like that uh but but they really
00:46:11.060 shouldn't be here they're not here to bolster america they don't love the lord jesus christ
00:46:16.060 that's first and foremost second they're not compatible with america they don't love apple
00:46:20.400 pie they don't love george washington they don't they don't know our history they don't know our
00:46:24.400 heritage they don't they're not they're not american they're not european they're not they're
00:46:28.620 not anything close well to our heritage the thing is like even the idea of the work visa like when
00:46:33.980 you look at when solomon built the temple he had workers come from lebanon because they were the
00:46:38.520 most skilled in the world they came and they did their thing and you know what they did they went
00:46:43.280 back home they went back i'm sure they missed their wives and their children the entire time
00:46:46.780 they were in israel because they actually love their nation part of the reason that we have
00:46:51.000 what's going on in the world today is uh it's not just because america has a problem the world has 1.00
00:46:55.340 a problem everybody hates their nation yes yep it's really sad it's really sad but like haitians 0.90
00:47:01.440 hate their nation and to be fair who could blame them there's a word haiti is it donald trump was 0.99
00:47:10.260 right when he said it was what did he say a hellscape or something i won't say it on stream 0.93
00:47:14.280 but it was oh okay yeah it was worse than that it was it was literally oh he said he went that far
00:47:18.700 okay so i i wouldn't use that link i wouldn't have used i know what you mean yeah um the shi
00:47:23.700 idea um so i wouldn't have used that language but here's the thing though here's the thing
00:47:27.420 and there's reasons for it even for people who live in very disadvantaged nations we'll put it
00:47:32.660 that way yes they love their nation they still should there's a proper love they should it's
00:47:37.520 it's obligatory yes one of the things paul accuses he says of wicked men this is in romans 1 and in
00:47:42.020 second timothy 3 he says they are without and the king james renders it without natural affection
00:47:47.360 the greek word there is astorgos yeah and it means without familial love the nation is the family
00:47:52.800 writ large is when he says and he's describing wicked men they're haughty they're insolent
00:47:57.680 they're idolatrous they're immoral and they are without natural affection they are astorgos
00:48:03.840 that's beautiful and so helpful and it's just the the best alley-oop uh and for another one of my 0.63
00:48:09.660 jokes so let me get the guys uh to my right uh those who are further on my right so nathan pull
00:48:14.520 back up the denial let's go to ethnic uh our sinful ethnic partiality real quick um so the
00:48:20.820 last sentence therefore as christian nationalists we utterly repudiate sinful ethnic partiality in
00:48:25.360 all its various forms so i saw some of the guys on my right saying that's not a thing it doesn't
00:48:28.980 exist he's just trying to you know basically he knows that if he says uh we we utterly repudiate
00:48:34.580 racism in all its various forms uh he knows that that's uh that's f-o-t-r you know that that's about 0.97
00:48:40.780 as fake and gay as you can get um and so he's smart enough not to uh not to say the magical 0.98
00:48:45.400 spell you know racism the fake sin of racism so he's making up a term you know sinful ethnic 0.98
00:48:50.440 parsiatic i hear you i honestly i've been watching on twitter and uh you know x and um i
00:48:57.260 actually i actually enjoy reading it like the comments but the comments on the right
00:49:01.980 because i'm like because i appreciate the sentiment some of the guys go too far i think
00:49:05.860 but a lot of the guys on the right they're saying joel this is gay don't be joel come on man like
00:49:10.940 we just defended farther right and still be a christian yes yes you're not the gatekeeper yeah
00:49:15.060 there are there are guys to my right who are brothers in christ and i love them good men um
00:49:19.380 yep good man uh so um so some of the guys to my right uh you know giving me a hard time um
00:49:24.720 and i and i'm reading it i'm like i'm here for it i love it i love that you guys are giving me
00:49:29.960 a hard time i get it so um uh and because i get what you're saying but here's back to wes's point
00:49:35.980 here um so wes said that uh paul literally says that if there's not this familial love uh spell
00:49:41.780 it out again for us so storgos would be familial love and then a is the negation so the greek word
00:49:46.420 be a store goes without natural so if a man doesn't a man who hates his own nation right
00:49:51.460 okay so with that phrase now to the guys on my right let me pose this as a question sinful
00:49:55.960 ethnic partiality sinful ethnic partiality the thing that you don't think exists or it's not a
00:50:01.400 thing it's just he's just using a a witty placeholder for racism so that we'll call him 0.93
00:50:06.820 gay once instead of calling him gay twice um online uh okay so uh what if what if a brit
00:50:13.580 uh english white dude um uh says you know what um since early childhood is as early as i can 0.61
00:50:23.860 remember i've always loved japan more than england would that be sinful ethnic partiality
00:50:31.140 would it be sinful yeah so you guys on my right and i love you guys you hear all the disclaimers
00:50:38.680 who just said i love you guys but you guys on my right you would be the first to say that a guy
00:50:44.600 who is showing partiality to a nation that's not his own is being sinful yep and and if he's showing
00:50:51.680 partiality on the basis of ethnos ethnic partiality and it's it is a partiality towards a particular
00:51:00.240 ethnicity that is not his own and he's loving and preferring over his own to even the cost
00:51:06.620 in detriment of his own people preferring those um uh of another nation's sending he's the first 0.69
00:51:13.740 guy to uh to so for instance here would be an example you know what sinful uh ethnic partiality
00:51:18.960 is here's an example um guys in the united states government with dual citizenship and you know what
00:51:24.900 the other country is it's israel i suppose they do israel don't do the uk or japan no it's israel
00:51:30.380 let's do it let's go there because it's none of this is anti-semitic it's perfectly perfectly
00:51:34.560 logical and perfectly righteous we should not have anyone in a federal position of government 0.90
00:51:40.440 in these united states who has dual citizenship right that's my opinion you should uh your
00:51:45.180 loyalties your fidelity your allegiances should lie exclusively not just a prioritize but
00:51:52.020 exclusively with these united states of america we should not be in a position of power you have
00:51:57.140 been appointed as a civil father over a civil family to care as calvin and thomas watson said
00:52:03.240 as a nursing father to your civil children and if you're taking the children's bread from your
00:52:09.580 children and giving it to somebody else's children that is sinful ethnic partiality
00:52:14.800 yep so so uh mike johnson you know saying how can we squeeze out another billion for israel you
00:52:21.920 know or um and all while while a christian i remember people were getting excited they're
00:52:25.660 like is this christian nationalism you know the me that's right you know because uh mike johnson
00:52:30.300 praise you know uh every morning in his office you know with his team before they start the day and
00:52:34.820 blah blah blah and i remember all the way back then i was like like because people were coming
00:52:39.400 up to me because i was the christian nationalist guy and they're like joel you're probably stoked
00:52:42.360 right zero retweets from joy i was like because i knew that as much as the guy um may be a christian
00:52:51.940 he may generally be a brother in christ um but whatever allegiance he has to christian he also
00:52:56.740 has to israel right uh mike johnson is a judeo-christian and there is a difference between
00:53:02.840 christian and judeo-christian he is a judeo-christian in the same way he is not just america first he
00:53:09.540 is an america hyphen israel so at the national level political level there's america and then
00:53:15.060 there's america slash israel um at the religious level there's christian and then there's judeo
00:53:20.800 christian and and when i signed up just for the record when i signed up two and a half years ago
00:53:25.500 for this whole Christian nationalism thing.
00:53:27.300 I signed up because I thought
00:53:28.720 that I was signing up for Christian nationalism.
00:53:32.440 If I had been told that I was signing up
00:53:34.660 for Judeo-Christian nationalism,
00:53:36.440 I wouldn't have enlisted.
00:53:38.980 I, two and a half years later,
00:53:40.680 all this time has passed,
00:53:42.460 and I still care about Christian nationalism. 0.53
00:53:45.960 I have no interest in Judeo-Christian nationalism.
00:53:49.500 Zero.
00:53:50.820 So I care about my country.
00:53:53.020 i care about first and foremost my lord jesus christ and my lord he did actually there was a
00:54:01.100 second coming a spiritual second coming a parousia my lord came and visited israel and he did come
00:54:08.080 a second time in 80 70 and he raised it r-a-i-z right he he raised it to the ground he leveled 0.95
00:54:17.400 he used titus as his instrument he destroyed the temple so that not one stone was left on it
00:54:23.260 destroyed all the birth records so they couldn't even prove lineage anymore if they tried to right
00:54:29.200 he destroyed it all the lord jesus did that my lord he did that um because jesus has no interest
00:54:37.200 in judeo-christian nationalism um because jesus does not share glory in a pantheon of false gods 0.54
00:54:45.280 judaism is a lying false religion from the pit of hell and so all that being said you don't think 0.85
00:54:53.180 sinful ethnic partiality is a thing all you guys on my right okay well pastor joel gotcha i got you 0.97
00:54:59.820 guys right because mike johnson preferring israel over his nation that he's been elected to serve
00:55:08.420 is an ethnic
00:55:10.440 partiality for another
00:55:12.040 people that is sinful.
00:55:15.120 It's wrong. So ethnic 1.00
00:55:16.380 partiality can actually be 0.74
00:55:18.600 sinful. Let me give you one more too
00:55:20.440 historically.
00:55:22.320 W's in the chat. TKO.
00:55:24.540 It's confirmed. I won. Okay, go ahead.
00:55:27.200 This was 1930s Germany. 0.83
00:55:28.520 Law for the prevention of genetically diseased 1.00
00:55:30.340 offsprings. It was a law requiring sterilization 0.99
00:55:32.440 of individuals that had diseases.
00:55:34.520 It was expanded by amendment in 1935 1.00
00:55:36.700 and it required sterilization of what was a group called the Rhineland bastards so it was the mixed
00:55:41.400 race children of German civilians and French African soldiers who helped occupy the Rhineland 0.79
00:55:46.040 so it took an ethnos a group of people and it said you will be sterilized it's not hey we have 1.00
00:55:51.420 to deport you you belong elsewhere sterilizing you will never have kids and that's wicked right 0.72
00:55:55.860 that's on the basis of ethnos doing something wicked and Christians should repudiate that 0.93
00:56:00.260 that's not on the table for a Christian magistrate to just sterilize a portion of your population 0.54
00:56:05.060 because of that children are wonderful children are a blessing that that is not permissible
00:56:09.720 yeah helpful yep yep so all that being said um yeah that uh when we say sinful ethnic partiality
00:56:17.960 what we're saying is that there there actually is a way of of treating one whole people group
00:56:24.720 sinfully based solely on the fact that they're a people group so when paul quotes accretion 0.98
00:56:31.160 prophet one of their own they're all liars and lazy gluttons paul is not committing sinful 0.97
00:56:37.400 partiality of course not because he's saying something number one he's quoting one of their 0.98
00:56:42.500 prophets and uh but he's not just quoting a prophet he's not just using he's not just being
00:56:49.160 satirical or this or that you know so and so said uh because he does you have to finish the text he
00:56:53.800 does follow it up and say and this is true yep paul affirms it he says one of your own guys said
00:57:00.300 this about your people and he nailed it he nailed it now did was the apostle paul sinning and i
00:57:09.740 would say absolutely not right so sinful ethnic partiality one way to commit that sin um would be
00:57:16.080 to love another people at the cost of your own right uh aka if you need examples again just look
00:57:24.220 at u.s politicians right especially the ones who are in bed with ukraine and israel okay that's one
00:57:31.300 way to commit this in another way to commit this in is um if paul had said that about crete um
00:57:38.800 but it'd be slander and it's actually not true yeah if the cretans were actually stand up christian
00:57:44.560 people yeah who were not liars who held truth as their highest virtue and then hard work and
00:57:50.980 diligence as their second greatest virtue um and then paul uh and it was actually one of their own
00:57:56.260 a prophet who who was slandering his people and then paul uh took a slanderer of the cretins um
00:58:03.280 and then paul boosted him let's say let's say for instance paul uh retweeted this guy on x you know 0.63
00:58:10.160 like this guy one of the cretan prophets uh slanders cretins are salt of the earth people
00:58:15.060 this guy completely slanders them says something that's totally untrue and then paul you know and
00:58:19.380 does does it in a video and then paul um uh you know goes ahead and pushes it out right well that
00:58:24.580 would be a sin certainly that would be a sin i'm on fire today i told you i'm radical i went to
00:58:29.800 costco we need to talk to your wife to get your costco trips every day every week every week on
00:58:36.020 baby mabel is going to be coming in in a second i mean there's just dub so many w's in the chat
00:58:39.980 we can't even we can't wait a commercial break uh yes we should but but i hope that you see my
00:58:44.200 point so um paul did not sin when he said that about um about the cretins because it was true
00:58:49.700 the cretins and that doesn't mean that they couldn't be converted because remember paul
00:58:55.660 leaves titus in crete for that's how he starts the book yeah for this reason i've left you in
00:58:59.840 crete to put what so paul he was not saying and therefore the cretins are a special class of
00:59:04.580 people that are are actually subhuman and actually don't even have souls and can't be saved
00:59:10.300 now that's sinful paul doesn't say that he leaves one of his top dudes top dudes timothy and titus 0.56
00:59:17.220 he leaves them in crete to do what to plant churches and and to set up elders in these 0.96
00:59:23.960 churches cretins so paul actually thinks they'll be at least on the whole cretins kind of suck
00:59:30.440 right now right that's paul's view um but individually right because we can speak in 0.83
00:59:35.100 group dynamics in generalities it doesn't mean every paul still says titus you need to put some
00:59:40.660 guys as elders so what is paul what can we assume from that he believes that there are at least some
00:59:45.400 individual cretins who are qualified to be pastors right good men and titus needs to identify them
00:59:51.220 he needs to appoint them and they're going to be preaching the gospel and what does paul
00:59:55.700 fully anticipate will happen in the island of crete people will get saved and it'll change
01:00:01.120 that this prophet one of their own who said these negative things about crete paul comes behind him
01:00:05.520 says it's true i've been there they kind of suck but they won't always suck because the gospel 0.76
01:00:11.780 changes things the gospel so all that being said sinful part uh ethnic partiality one way you can 0.88
01:00:17.120 do it is uh loving foreigners over your own people and at the cost of your people i think
01:00:23.980 that that's simple and wrong i actually do and all the reformers would have thought that that was
01:00:28.300 wrong we're to love our own first and that doesn't here's the deal loving your own doesn't
01:00:34.520 necessitate that you hate anybody else right so the other way so one way you can sin is a lack
01:00:40.660 of love for your own another way you can sin is a presence of unfounded unjustifiable hatred for 0.98
01:00:50.300 those who are not your own right um so again if all those things were not true of the cretins
01:00:55.820 and paul had just um had just put in holy scripture uh talk about i mean that's like
01:01:02.160 the retweet of all retweets you know like you take their profit and you put it in the bible
01:01:05.800 if he just uh if he just boosted uh and gave oxygen to a slanderer saying something that
01:01:13.040 was untrue about the cretins then i think that that would be sinful ethnic partiality you are 0.84
01:01:17.280 hating the cretins and saying something about them um that's not true right and you're saying
01:01:23.720 it about an entire what makes it ethnic you're saying it about an entire ethnos an entire ethnic 0.99
01:01:28.500 group of people okay so when someone says the last thing i'll say real quick um because it gets into
01:01:33.800 the anti-semitism you know kind of stuff and whatever um but but if somebody says if somebody's
01:01:38.840 in my church and he says um i believe that talmudic judaism as an ideology not running in the veins
01:01:46.660 not the blood of the jewish people in terms of ethnos ethnicity but in terms of the ideology
01:01:53.300 the religion of talmudic judaism which is is uniquely pernicious against christ it is 1.00
01:01:59.940 quran send you to hell right buddhism will send you to hell hinduism will send you to hell 1.00
01:02:05.100 um every major world religion um other than christianity is false and therefore evil and 1.00
01:02:13.880 therefore a lie and therefore if believed will send you to hell um they're all bad in other words 0.89
01:02:19.240 but talmudic judaism um is uniquely it stands out above it is uniquely pernicious um in its 0.82
01:02:27.140 in its hostility its blatant hostility towards the person and work of jesus christ 0.53
01:02:31.080 the quran denies jesus deity you believe it you'll go to hell buddhists deny his deity you'll go to 0.99
01:02:37.400 hell hindus deny like you'll go to hell with any of those um but they all esteem christ to some 0.98
01:02:44.540 degree yeah they either say he's a good guy or a good teacher a good prophet or they say he 0.65
01:02:48.860 actually was a miracle worker or this they just don't say he's the son of god right um but talmudic
01:02:54.560 judaism doesn't say hey he's a good guy we're just denying his deity no talmudic judaism hates
01:02:59.680 jesus so here's the deal not not ethnic running in blood okay not by by way of dna but in by way
01:03:07.740 of religion and ideology ideas have consequence consequences if there's a religion that is
01:03:14.960 particular to one ethnic group certainly other people can convert right i'm not denying that
01:03:20.220 but but there's one country one plot of land that says this is our religion and and most of those
01:03:28.380 who adhere to the religion a lot of them live in that country right and and then in that country
01:03:33.440 okay because i'm going to be fair here let's say the majority don't actually practice talmud
01:03:38.560 judaism because a lot of people don't right well here this is the way that i would argue it's the
01:03:44.180 same as christianity right now i believe that less than half oh yeah i would bet on this far less than
01:03:49.800 half of our country is actually regenerate right yep in other words well over half of americans
01:03:55.360 are not christians in the truest sense right although i would still argue though that america
01:04:00.280 by its heritage by its customs by its culture by its history by all these things by its law system
01:04:06.280 is a christian nation right so um that's why richard dawkins can call himself a cultural
01:04:13.480 christian that's why elon musk recently called himself a cultural christian and that's why they
01:04:18.160 can get upset about foreign invasion of muslims particularly because wait a second it's like you
01:04:24.700 you might be tempted as a regenerate christian as a true christian say you don't have a dog in the 0.55
01:04:27.880 fight shut up you know but you don't get to have a say but even they recognize and i think at some
01:04:32.500 degree they're right elon musk is not a christian not in the true sense not regenerate neither is
01:04:37.600 richard dawkins or any of these guys but they're saying no no no we don't want to be invaded by
01:04:41.360 muslims because we're cultural christians and that matters to us well likewise there is such a thing 0.98
01:04:46.620 as cultural judy judaism and and a false religion any major false religion is pernicious it has
01:04:54.540 far-reaching lies but that false religion i believe is uniquely pernicious due to its unique 0.94
01:05:02.660 hostility of christ which islam does not share buddhism doesn't share hinduism doesn't share 0.97
01:05:07.720 only talmudic judaism and even if so for all those who would play the devil's advocate advocate
01:05:13.760 but only 20 percent is less than half that actually practice talmudic okay see everything
01:05:19.520 i just said about how it works with christianity yeah um israel and and now talking about it
01:05:26.280 according to ethnic not just religious um but those who are are ethnically jewish even if they
01:05:33.640 don't practice talmudic judaism have been influenced by a talmudic judaic culture that
01:05:40.960 is uniquely hostile towards christ and christian values so if i have someone in my church all the
01:05:47.940 way back to this example and he says um i believe that jewish people in general in general not each
01:05:57.920 and every individual one and they can be converted and i love them and want their conversion i wish
01:06:02.480 them a very pleasant conversion to christianity and they're worthy of our evangelistic efforts
01:06:06.660 and i don't wish physical harm on any of them blah blah blah blah all those things
01:06:10.680 but he says but i do believe as a people group even those who don't practice talmudic judaism
01:06:16.360 They've been shaped by that ideology and that religion so that on the whole, in a general sense, not each and every individual, but a general sense, there is a unique subversion, desire to subvert, specifically Western Christian countries in some harmful ways.
01:06:35.820 and i'm concerned about that and i'm definitely concerned about a guy with israeli citizenship
01:06:43.720 serving at the federal level in my government i would like to not have that dual citizenship
01:06:49.700 guys and i'd also like to stop sending trillions of dollars if a guy says that that is not sinful 0.91
01:06:57.180 ethnic partiality and it's not racist and it's not anti-semitic and yes that guy i will go to bat
01:07:04.360 for that guy will not be under church discipline and i will defend him even if all of medieval
01:07:11.040 comes comes at me so when we say sinful ethnic partiality that's an example of what it's not
01:07:17.760 that would actually be a permissible view to halt because it's defensible it's not a pure hatred
01:07:24.100 wishing someone harm people harm but it is believing something in general something generally
01:07:29.860 negative negative about a general group um but something that i believe can be defended
01:07:37.660 i like to be defended i like that you said earlier justice unjustified hatred specifically
01:07:42.640 because there is a biblical category and it's not the main the main event or the main focus but
01:07:47.240 there is a category of hate and as far as the public enemy goes like the crusaders like they
01:07:51.740 hated the invading muslim arab hordes they were coming in they were they were ravishing their 0.74
01:07:56.660 women destroying their cities pillaging the land and they had a justified hatred towards them now 0.99
01:08:02.240 not everyone has acted so violently and combatively against people groups there has to be a reason but
01:08:07.400 i would even say maybe you would disagree with me there is a category even of justified hatred of a 0.90
01:08:11.540 people group now the individuals we are called to love our enemies so an individual muslim perhaps
01:08:16.700 that's captive you share with him the gospel of jesus christ and if he's holding a category if
01:08:21.380 he's beaten up and left for dead you and and proximity is part of the the argument and the
01:08:25.880 ethical argument here and you cross his path um you you should be willing to take him to a doctor
01:08:31.580 your medic would try and treat him on the battlefield right exactly uh-huh so individually
01:08:35.880 as individual people not a personal enemy but a public enemy yes public enemy is a thing
01:08:41.980 and part of the reason evangelicals can't understand this is they don't understand
01:08:45.400 politics right and we had an evangelical who tried to help us understand politics about two
01:08:49.980 and a half years ago and they all called him a heretic and started burning his book namely
01:08:54.340 stephen wolf yep uh we are man we're in poor shape all right let's um
01:08:59.640 last thing i'll say um but if you if you slander a people group it's not it's unjustifiable it's
01:09:10.620 like no that's not so let's say um let's say zambians um are particularly generous now it's 0.92
01:09:17.080 it's on it works on the flip side also so some individual zambians um are thieves and steal
01:09:23.160 they're not generous at all but on the whole group dynamics in general zambians are known for
01:09:29.240 immense generosity well if other peoples other nations americans or whatever ugandans start 0.69
01:09:36.280 saying uh zambians are um are stingy uh then i would say that that's sinful ethnic partiality
01:09:44.440 um you're you're taking an entire ethnos ethnic group and slandering them you're slandering them
01:09:52.980 And that's wrong.
01:09:56.220 So I don't know.
01:09:57.540 Have we addressed it enough at this point?
01:09:59.320 Sinful ethnic partiality, what it is, what it's not?
01:10:02.120 I think so. 0.85
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01:13:24.880 So this is what we're gonna have to do 0.88
01:13:26.500 because we went long on the whole sinful ethnic partiality clause and on the mono-ethnic nations 0.90
01:13:33.640 and whether or not that's legitimate so we're going to have to what is a nation to find it
01:13:37.940 we're going to have to do that not just next week but in the next weeks so we're going to continue
01:13:43.740 to deal with the statement and we're going to start dealing also with michael's book he literally
01:13:48.440 has written a 400 page book called what is a nation well that's not the name of it but that's
01:13:52.800 oh i'm sorry well that's a that's a great name what's the name it's called um in defense of
01:13:57.400 christian nations beautiful amen um and so um but real quick just to tease because we're going to
01:14:02.620 start doing this a multiple part series uh for for weeks for the coming future like we need to
01:14:07.940 we'll probably also hit some big you know there'll be some cultural events and stuff like that you
01:14:12.160 know going on with you know trump and everything but uh what are the five components five components
01:14:16.460 of a nation are uh and they all start with l which is convenient lineage matters that is
01:14:20.880 people blood family when he says lineage he means yep yep so it's lineage land language laws and
01:14:28.520 shared loves okay let's say one more time lineage land land language laws and shared loves great
01:14:38.100 and worship goes in there but i couldn't figure out an l for it so it's in the expanded definition
01:14:42.320 okay so but the point here is that um we do not believe that a nation is anything less than blood
01:14:48.740 yeah what we're saying though is that it's more than blood and additionally what we're also having
01:14:55.620 to get into the weeds with is the complexity of the unique situation of our nation which is america
01:15:02.400 right uh and our history and our origin um you you have to you just you have to deal with that
01:15:10.020 you can't just pretend that uh america is great britain right it's not like i remember daryl
01:15:16.280 cooper you know talking on tucker carlson saying like how he's like uniquely grieved and the
01:15:21.740 displacing even more than like the great replacement is happening everywhere it's happening
01:15:26.160 in america no doubt i mean they've literally come out you know the leftists our own politicians
01:15:31.560 chuck schumer you know literally came out and said yeah we're doing it and it's a and it's good
01:15:35.040 like we've reached that point whereas at first it's like we're not doing it and then it's like
01:15:38.380 okay we're doing you know now it's like we're doing it it's good um and so the great replacement
01:15:42.800 is happening here in america but daryl cooper you know he especially lamented um the great
01:15:48.540 replacement as it's going on in great britain because he said like for a thousand years over
01:15:54.360 a thousand you know but like a thousand years um that's been the only little spot of land
01:16:00.960 on planet earth right yeah they belong to these people and it's not like america's history it
01:16:08.020 didn't start with you know 20 black people you know and indigenous people they're like um you
01:16:13.940 know and then the irish come in and the scott like no no for a thousand years it's been the englishman
01:16:19.040 it's been that guy it's been his home it's his home yep and um and if england decided like we're
01:16:26.780 just going to be englishmen um that would be permissible and that would be a legitimate and
01:16:32.140 so he's grieving you know daryl cooper was grieving that saying that this replacement of
01:16:35.560 this nation is an act of war nobody voted on this nobody asked you're right can you displace us from
01:16:40.800 our own homeland you don't have a muslim call to prayer wake us up every morning right they they 0.99
01:16:45.360 have been warred by their own by their own people their own magistrates and it's wicked it's a 1.00
01:16:50.060 wicked betrayal it's treason it's treason against the people of great britain so my point is back
01:16:54.160 to michael's um no one with right response ministries is denying lineage as one of the
01:17:00.880 key components of nationhood right of course um and no one is denying land uh nations are not a
01:17:07.960 set of propositions nations are not economic zones nations are particular people particular place
01:17:14.260 particular people particular place um but it's also more than that and so we'll get into you
01:17:20.440 know biblically we'll talk about israel and those it's like well what about israel you know you have
01:17:24.280 rahab and ruth and not just rahab and ruth but you have you have literally hundreds and thousands
01:17:28.020 that graft in from other and we we're aware of that we're aware of the tribe of benjamin we're
01:17:32.600 aware of all these things we're we're aware um but here's the deal um you can pack on
01:17:38.860 to a framework to a skeleton but you you can't have no framework to begin with you can't have
01:17:46.220 no skeleton to begin with so um anyway so we'll get into more of those things what is a nation
01:17:51.700 and we'll break down those five components talk more about lineage and land loves and law and
01:17:56.760 language, all those kinds of things. But for today, we want to try to get to the questions,
01:18:02.600 and I'm going to bring Mabel in, and then I guess we'll have to save the rest for this series.
01:18:06.360 Yeah, that'd be great. All right, let's do some questions.
01:18:13.420 Does Joel believe God has a specific covenant with America? I believe America has a specific
01:18:19.700 covenant with God, is the way that I would word it. I believe that we still make covenants. So
01:18:25.720 the marriage covenant is, all I need is one example to prove the principle. The marriage covenant is
01:18:30.860 not the new covenant. Here's the problem with Baptists, okay? I'm a Baptist. The problem with 1.00
01:18:34.820 Presbyterians is that they take the new covenant and they stretch it so thin and so far as to 0.70
01:18:39.680 envelop and cover everything. The problem with Baptists is that they don't overstretch the new 0.93
01:18:45.460 covenant, but they pretend as though the new covenant is the only covenant that there is
01:18:48.640 during this gospel age. And that's just not biblical. The Bible doesn't say, you know,
01:18:54.920 there was this covenant and this covenant and this covenant and then there's the new covenant
01:18:58.040 and once you have the new covenant there can be no other covenants whatsoever there's just one
01:19:02.920 covenant in existence throughout the entire entirety of the gospel age that is the new
01:19:07.000 covenant that's that's just not what the bible says so one example would be the covenant of
01:19:11.380 marriage marriage is a covenant it's not the new covenant jesus expressly says even that people
01:19:17.760 will not be married nor given a marriage in the life to come so marriage won't transcend like the
01:19:23.140 new covenant does it's not eternal um earthly marriage is not eternal although it's still
01:19:27.340 although it's not eternal and therefore it is not part of the new covenant earthly marriage
01:19:31.160 it is still a covenant it's a covenant um well i believe that there is such a thing in this gospel
01:19:36.720 age as national covenants um i think that nations can uh be uh they can covenant with uh satan
01:19:42.920 they can throw their lot in with uh demons and with false gods and but they also can covenant
01:19:50.000 with christ and i believe that our founders did that they covenanted with christ so i don't believe
01:19:54.840 that god has a special covenant with america um uh i i do i do believe that but i think the better
01:20:00.660 way to word it is that america has a special covenant with god that our fathers our founders
01:20:05.100 made a covenant with god a national covenant it's not the new covenant it's not a saving covenant
01:20:09.500 like the new it's not an eternal covenant it's a temporal earthly um covenant that america made
01:20:15.920 with God and currently we are breaking that covenant and have been doing so for a very very
01:20:23.140 long time and that's part of why we're under judgment and because we are breaking a covenant
01:20:29.220 that our fathers made with God that this land would be and this people would be a people and
01:20:34.400 a land a nation that loved him and served him and upheld righteousness and justice and we've
01:20:40.440 turned our back on the Lord Jesus Christ. But America, it's the judgment that we see on America
01:20:47.620 is not because America is not a Christian nation. It's because America has had a covenant with God
01:20:53.080 and we've been in the process of breaking it. I'll tease out one of the chapters in the books,
01:20:57.640 but Isaiah 24, 5 says, the earth lies defiled under its inhabitants. So this is all of the
01:21:04.580 earth, not just Israel. For they have transgressed the laws, violated the statutes, and broken the 0.98
01:21:10.100 everlasting covenant. And I think, Sam O'Ranahan points out that when God makes a covenant with,
01:21:16.980 every time there's a covenant between God and a human entity, God initiates it. So people can
01:21:22.380 make covenants together, like I can initiate a covenant with you or the marriage covenant,
01:21:26.300 but biblically God always initiates the covenant. One of the things I argue in the book is that
01:21:30.240 nations are covenantal structures, and every nation has the choice or not to uphold the
01:21:37.660 covenant that god establishes when he gives it the status of a nation because that comes with
01:21:43.260 certain privileges certain duties certain rights um in god's eyes and so every the reason why god
01:21:49.560 is just in wiping out wicked nations is because they violate the covenant that he establishes
01:21:55.240 with them in bringing them into being in the first place i like that yeah like acts i think it's 17
01:22:02.120 He sets their borders and their times.
01:22:03.800 And so you're saying every nation upon its origin, upon its creation by God,
01:22:10.440 which is a sovereign providential work that he does,
01:22:13.800 that every nation is kind of brought up by God,
01:22:18.200 and therefore, because God brings him up with the moral obligation of,
01:22:23.320 as all things that God's created,
01:22:25.040 everything that God created has the moral obligation to glorify him.
01:22:29.640 a bird has to glorify god by being a bird and a mountain and a tree and and then human you know
01:22:35.600 individual image bears of the living god um but then also collectively in a corporate sense as
01:22:41.920 nations god doesn't just create individuals knitting us together in their womb but he also
01:22:45.780 knits nations together um in time and history and place and uh and because he is also the author and
01:22:53.380 creator of of nations also yes nations uh therefore like all other piece of creation
01:22:58.780 have a moral obligation a binding effect to glorify him and so in a sense you could say that
01:23:03.560 nations like america what they've done is they've actually taken that obligation seriously and
01:23:08.160 they've sought to ratify it under the name of christ even i like it yep that's good michael
01:23:12.980 there's one question you should write a book it's not highland but uh it's not out yet by the way
01:23:17.400 when it's out we will you will hear about it i'll be in the center of the table you'll hear about it
01:23:21.700 yeah we'll put it on the center of the table that'd be great yeah uh someone asked a question
01:23:24.860 is not up there but uh so i don't have your name what is talmudic judaism so they understand kind
01:23:28.940 of the judaism part the jews the old testament hit us west and that's a great question i grew
01:23:33.760 up using the word judeo-christian and in my mind it was yeah me testament me too i didn't know
01:23:38.100 yeah it was christian yeah and so you would think like well they kind of have the first half they're
01:23:44.160 just kind of missing the second half what's been laid over the old testament specifically the law
01:23:48.320 and the torah right so for christianity we now understand the old testament in light of the new
01:23:52.280 through christ christ illuminates the old testament for judaism the work is the talmud
01:23:58.200 the talmud is this it's a running commentary it's huge it's a commentary on the laws and the
01:24:03.720 customs and it i don't know how you would describe it michael so much of it is is getting into the
01:24:09.120 minutiae and just like pharisaicalism yeah they went through and they said well you can get out
01:24:13.540 of this requirement exactly it's exactly what the pharisees were doing jesus day except imagine
01:24:19.060 two thousand years written down and followed by many people for a long time and made worse and
01:24:24.600 worse and worse and worse yeah it's just worse i'll try to be like discreet about it but like
01:24:27.880 there's like on laws regarding relations there's page after page of commentary on some of the most
01:24:33.380 gross perverse thing now you can technically get out of the requirement there's lots of hatred for
01:24:38.920 i'll go there gentile go for it uh isn't uh what what is was it six years of age or nine years of
01:24:44.780 age nine years of age in terms of imputing guilt right and it talks about a fully grown man if a
01:24:52.600 fully grown man sleeps with a boy and he's I think nine or under that age then because of his
01:25:05.720 youthfulness and it like that basically guilt can't be imputed to the man not to the boy right
01:25:12.080 who was raped right but to the full-grown man who raped him yep so you're good there's another
01:25:17.880 passage where you're not allowed to um hashtag talmud where you're not allowed a classic verse
01:25:24.000 a lot of uh vitriol for gentiles goyim and uh you're not allowed to lie to them but uh say one 0.76
01:25:29.960 of them falls in a pit and they're distressed what you can do to them is you can say like oh 0.99
01:25:33.620 i'm going to get help and leave them there so you can say like oh i was going to get help you
01:25:37.640 haven't technically lied you reassure them you leave them in distress and you can leave them
01:25:41.480 to die in the pit so it's a comment your intention when he left may have been i'm going to go get
01:25:45.440 help and oops i re-diverted and went and there's a wire that runs all through new york city uh that 0.53
01:25:51.040 helps lay out it expands the interior of a home right so that on sabbath jews can go outside new
01:25:55.940 york city but because there's a wire that encircles it it's all considered the interior of a home
01:26:00.360 and this is what the talmud is it's laid on top of the old testament as a commentary and a lens
01:26:05.900 perverting and distorting mixing up and negating all the teachings of course of christ of the old
01:26:11.840 testament but of moses so when we talk of talmudic judaism yeah we're not talking about the torah
01:26:16.120 we're not talking about god's law we're talking about centuries of laid on top of it that utterly
01:26:21.800 destroys it right so one of the easiest way i can explain is it's i you know i mean when i was 0.97
01:26:27.400 younger i thought um judaism is just christianity um minus the new testament right um because they
01:26:34.280 have the we both share the old testament the torah you know but the problem this is the problem is
01:26:39.000 both christianity and judaism both have their own new testament new and it's our new testament
01:26:44.980 that helps us to exegete and properly interpret and understand the old testament right we understand
01:26:51.480 isaiah because we read paul right you know we understand you know it's it's the apostles um
01:26:58.260 commissioned by christ writing under inspiration of the holy spirit that that um draw so many of
01:27:05.620 the riches out of the old testament to to draw out their ultimate meaning their uh their truest
01:27:11.280 interpretation the highest uh the highest um sense and so um and so my point is i forget who the
01:27:19.500 theologian was but he said the old testament is like a richly furnished room but dimly lit
01:27:25.560 and that it can only be truly seen in the light of christ in the new testament and so the new
01:27:32.600 testament shows you it's like the new testament is like the light or like what you said the lens
01:27:38.000 that uh illuminates or clarifies the old testament to where all of its riches can be appreciated
01:27:45.220 well judaism has its new testament right it has its lens it has its light it's the talmud
01:27:52.760 and what the talmud does is it takes the old testament we both have the same old testament
01:27:57.460 but our new testament that focuses on christ our new testament illuminates the old and draws out
01:28:05.820 its riches their new testament the talmud perverts the old right so it's not that um my point is
01:28:12.440 judaism is not half of christianity the bible minus the new testament just one testament the 0.99
01:28:17.400 old no it's it's none of christianity right it's one of the greatest perversions of christianity 0.96
01:28:23.700 it's taking the old testament um it's not the old testament missing the new it's the old testament 0.91
01:28:29.340 perverted and twisted beyond recognition by their new testament right namely the talmud right and
01:28:36.000 and you just you have you need to understand that you need to understand this is talmudic judaism
01:28:41.360 so then this uh should be the way that you understand those who practice talmudic judaism
01:28:46.480 But then in a broader sense, that should also be the way you understand Israel as a whole and the Jewish people as a whole.
01:28:53.980 Again, not each and every individual.
01:28:55.760 Because, well, Jews can get saved, praise God. 0.99
01:28:59.000 And they do, somewhat regularly. 0.98
01:29:01.340 But they renounce all of that. 0.89
01:29:03.540 But when they do get saved, they renounce Judaism. 1.00
01:29:06.120 Amen. 1.00
01:29:06.480 Praise God.
01:29:06.840 But my point is, this is how you should understand Talmud of Judaism and those Jews who practice it.
01:29:11.520 and those jews who um don't practice talmudic judaism but um are not converted to christianity
01:29:18.320 either and especially those who live in israel um they they may not be practicing talmud
01:29:23.200 judaism but just like richard dawkins has some cultural christianity um characteristics
01:29:30.800 there is such a thing as a cultural uh judaism characteristics judaism has shaped that people
01:29:38.720 Just like our people have been shaped by Christianity.
01:29:41.260 Even those who say, I'm an atheist, I'm not a Christian. 0.66
01:29:44.320 So too, likewise, I would argue for Jews.
01:29:47.480 I'm an atheist Jew. 0.73
01:29:48.940 I'm not a Talmudist.
01:29:50.680 And I would say, well, but you've still been shaped by it. 0.71
01:29:55.360 You've still been shaped by it.
01:29:57.880 Okay.
01:29:59.040 I want to go back up there real quick.
01:30:02.220 Andrew Perry says, what about missionaries coming here versus going to other countries?
01:30:05.480 um and this is a good uh this is a good question and you hear a lot the statement well everyone's
01:30:13.060 a missionary right and i grew up in a missionary family my parents were missionaries my grandparents
01:30:18.300 were missionaries i was a missionary um but that statement everyone's a missionary is not true
01:30:24.740 yeah everyone ought to be an evangelist right right we we bring the aroma of christ with us
01:30:30.160 yes yes we bring the aroma of christ wherever we go to some of death to death of
01:30:35.400 for others of life to life.
01:30:36.940 Like 100%, we're all to be the salt and the light.
01:30:40.000 We're to bring the testimony
01:30:41.740 and the presence of Christ wherever we go.
01:30:43.480 Yes, but a missionary is a unique category.
01:30:46.500 It is someone who God, I think,
01:30:48.700 supernaturally enables to have a love
01:30:51.660 for people that's not his own.
01:30:53.920 Such that, and that gets recognized, qualified man,
01:30:57.160 and then a church recognizes that he's a qualified man
01:31:01.180 and that God really has given him a love,
01:31:03.760 a supernatural love for people that's not his own, such that he is permitted to leave behind
01:31:10.260 the natural ministry that he would have to his own people, to go to a separate people, and really,
01:31:16.940 if done well, to try to become like them in a sense, to try to love them as closely as he can
01:31:26.200 to his own, at least for a while, so that he can understand how to bring the gospel to them. I mean,
01:31:31.040 one of the unique advantages that Paul had was he understood, even though he was a missionary
01:31:35.120 to the Greeks, he still understood their culture. He read their poets. He knew their philosophy.
01:31:42.320 A missionary in modern context to a different country, in some ways, it's almost better if
01:31:47.780 the gospel goes in chains, right? Where you reach out to a country that's near you that you might
01:31:54.160 already know something about, and they reach a country that's near them. That's not always the
01:31:59.200 case but but a missionary is a special category and i think there's a special sense where
01:32:04.280 missionaries only are permitted for a time to give up the natural ministry and duty that they have to
01:32:09.520 their own people for the sake of taking the gospel to another people but even then i'll tell you guys
01:32:14.480 i i grew up in a missionary household in a foreign country and i inherited from my father a love for
01:32:20.860 america that rivals almost almost none of my friend i mean you guys yeah right but the but
01:32:26.460 like he loved america and he was sad to have left it right and he was always happy to go back
01:32:32.140 vody bacham uh by the way is coming back home you know oh really yeah interesting i've seen
01:32:38.880 that announced like he's coming back home and uh to america and vody bacham same kind of thing like
01:32:44.980 he loves america he's from texas he's from yeah from houston like uh yeah from texas that loves
01:32:52.080 football yeah played played college ball yeah and uh loves you mean that hulk of a man played
01:32:56.880 college football of course but loves america and and never stopped loving it when he went to zambia
01:33:02.760 you know and um but yeah that's yeah um yeah people like jd vance said it well like people
01:33:10.380 aren't going to die for uh an economic zone or a set of proposition they die people will
01:33:16.360 defend a home yeah a nation can't be anything less than a home and a home can't be anything
01:33:21.760 less than land a place and a family people yeah um and and our nation america is unique and so
01:33:30.280 all those people aren't going to have the same pigment but but they do need to have be able to
01:33:36.200 say this is my people and they haven't just been my people for 15 minutes right they've been my
01:33:40.180 people for a while and i and and i can track them back to those who settled america and not just
01:33:45.120 those who immigrated, you know, and are reaping the benefits of it. And then if you are more
01:33:51.840 recent, but you did it through the right channels, and you love the Lord Jesus Christ, and you love
01:33:56.800 America, then you need to earn your keep a little bit. You need to contribute something. You need to
01:34:03.460 come here to do something that's not just good for you and your family, but good for our country.
01:34:08.840 It's good for our country. And there are a lot of people who do that, for the record.
01:34:12.320 and praise god for them they need to assimilate in right they need to make this people their 0.98
01:34:16.940 people yes um yep yep but those who are here illegally must must go back and and some of
01:34:23.840 those who are here legally but not citizens will also um not all but many of those will also have
01:34:30.240 to go i would say even some citizens who are here for the legal benefits but not for the for the
01:34:35.900 people to become part of the people ideally we will push our culture in a way not because we
01:34:40.700 hate them but they'll just be suited in another culture in another nation okay mabel's here we're
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01:37:13.840 all right we are back this is baby mabel she's sleeping right now 0.99
01:37:22.060 she's probably going to get a little bit upset but she was uh eight pounds six ounces
01:37:28.320 when she was born she was born uh on november 6th we woke up found that uh we got trump coming back
01:37:35.720 and then uh my wife it's like mabel knew she's like it's safe to come out 0.63
01:37:40.060 so she because she was due on friday which would have been yeah before first uh the first yeah she
01:37:45.740 was due on the first so she stuck around for six days it's not nothing but she just she's like that
01:37:51.660 wicked woman i can't come into the world with that wicked woman uh so as soon as we knew we 1.00
01:37:56.920 had trump and she was like it's safe it's safe to come out um so eight pounds six ounces she's 0.98
01:38:01.720 been doing really good um be praying for my wife she's super healthy had a great delivery doing
01:38:07.480 good um but um just pray for eating all of our kids are just skinny little minis and struggle
01:38:15.460 sometimes with nursing and eating those kinds of things and just for the record um i don't ever
01:38:19.920 show my kids uh just i get death threats people hate me um it's just not a good idea i think on
01:38:26.360 social media, especially with big followings. But the reason why I'm willing to do it is because
01:38:30.680 I've done it with a couple of my kids when they were this age, when they were babies. I did it
01:38:35.520 with Franklin too. But it's because in two weeks, I won't recognize her and neither will you.
01:38:43.020 The newborn baby is just, you know, they just change. People are asking about Franklin's cough
01:38:47.740 too. Oh, Franklin is doing much better, much, much better. That was another thing. It's like,
01:38:53.200 god god was so kind it's like i was in there's so many things i was in huge controversy you know
01:38:59.060 all of all of uh mid eva was trying to cancel me over uh hating jews which is not true um or
01:39:06.920 defending a jew hater in my church which is also not true he doesn't hate jews well you did defend
01:39:11.240 him i did defend him yeah i did defend him but he doesn't hate jews yeah he's not a jew hater um
01:39:16.220 he just he would he just said the same things that i said in this podcast today basically you
01:39:21.300 know um hey uh you're talking about a people that are influenced by a religion that hates christ you
01:39:27.000 don't think that has an effect which is john calvin martin buser samuel rutherford yeah yeah
01:39:31.440 they all talk this way we would not excommunicate um this man in our church for the same reason that
01:39:37.320 we would not excommunicate every single one of the reformers right but apparently a lot of guys
01:39:43.700 a lot of reform pastors would so um we're not that ministry if you're looking for a ministry
01:39:47.620 that, uh, is reformed, but hates the reformers. We're not the ministry for you. Um, so all that
01:39:53.820 being said, um, Mabel waited for her dad to get out of trouble, which I don't think I'm ever really
01:39:59.320 out of trouble. You can tell like, uh, cause apologies are, uh, here's the thing about apologies.
01:40:03.680 They're easy. It doesn't take a week to craft an apology. Um, if they're easy, why have they been
01:40:09.340 so few and far between? Uh, apologies are easy. And so therefore they come quickly. Um, but, uh,
01:40:15.420 moving goalposts and uh the other shoe dropping right with a new tactic well yeah okay so he
01:40:22.800 caught us on you know the church discipline yeah we did actually say that like eight times you know
01:40:26.780 uh and so you know caught us there but what's really going on you can tell that you know blah
01:40:31.640 blah blah um apologies are are easy and therefore they're quick um when they don't come and things
01:40:39.080 are quiet for a week i've just gotten to the point in ministry at this point from experience
01:40:43.700 where i just uh assume that the uh the second shoe is dropping and that's why it's uh silent
01:40:50.160 is because um they're regrouping so i expect um another attack and uh and the thing is there's
01:40:58.980 nothing else that can be attacked in the case of this member um because he hasn't had any contact
01:41:04.620 um with these guys uh since the zoom call that we did and the zoom call's been released to
01:41:10.940 everybody, you know, at this point it leaked, you know, I
01:41:13.320 shared it with some and then they leaked it and everybody's
01:41:16.040 got it. So all that can happen is they have to go before the
01:41:22.340 zoom call. So they have to say, well, here are original text
01:41:25.520 messages from even before the zoom call from four months ago,
01:41:29.160 five months ago, six months ago, seven months ago. And my
01:41:33.540 response, I can give you my response right now, I don't have
01:41:35.520 to wait for another video to drop. My response is, yeah,
01:41:40.940 You're talking about a young German man who wants to believe the best about his fathers, his people.
01:41:49.880 And Elon bought Twitter.
01:41:53.220 And all of a sudden, there's a flood of content that before then was suppressed.
01:41:59.420 He starts reading.
01:42:00.580 He starts watching.
01:42:01.540 He starts listening.
01:42:04.860 And for a hot minute, he did go too far.
01:42:09.240 and that's why i talked to him um and it wasn't a 15 minute chat we talked again and again and
01:42:16.020 again multiple times and here's the whole deal uh he changed he changed i thought that's what i
01:42:23.420 thought that's what we were all about as ministers of the gospel was repentance so uh what you heard
01:42:29.900 on the zoom call um that's after the change and since the zoom call there's been more change more
01:42:35.980 positive change um and the only content that could drop the second shoe dropping would be
01:42:41.780 content before the zoom call um aka before he started changing before all of my pastoral work
01:42:48.920 with him and conversations and the holy spirit working on his heart um so you you would have to
01:42:54.140 say well but this is still very very concerning why um because he's changed you'd have to say
01:42:59.960 very very concerning because uh he used to be sinful um in other words you literally have to
01:43:07.260 engage in the very ministry of satan you have to dredge up forgiven sins that have been repented of
01:43:14.840 it's a remarkable thing for any reformed minister of the gospel to do so i i hope that that's not
01:43:20.820 what happened i've just learned a thing or two and over the last few years and being a lightning
01:43:27.000 rod for controversy and having all of reformed evangelicals mad at me all the time. I've just
01:43:34.640 learned to expect the worst, because that's usually what you get. I've never been in a more
01:43:41.960 vicious world than reformed evangelicalism. I'll say that. Mark Driscoll, I think, had his problems 0.75
01:43:49.420 back in the day. I don't know anything about him personally now, so I won't speak to that.
01:43:53.020 but the freedom of mark driscoll looks pretty good right like what what if it's uh what if
01:44:00.380 it's not envy i'll i'll confess right now uh there are days where i feel like i'm uh look you know
01:44:06.460 sitting in the reformed house looking through the window watching mark driscoll you know whistling
01:44:10.460 and skipping down the street you know he's meeting with trump he's perfectly happy i'm like calling
01:44:15.360 out weak pastors yeah yeah i'm like that guy looks gosh what would it be like to be mark driscoll
01:44:20.740 he's probably so happy so free do you think you think mark just the reformed you know the whole
01:44:25.560 reform camp canceled mark driscoll right and i think a lot of it was legitimate um but do you
01:44:30.700 think mark driscoll was like man i wish they'd welcome me back only act 29 would give me one
01:44:36.880 more shot right guys you just have to realize like the reform camp we are the the meanest
01:44:42.440 heart most heartless vicious people ever and and here's the deal how to bring it all the way back
01:44:49.200 to the episode it should not surprise you at all why how do you know that a group is going to be
01:44:53.680 mean to its own um well when they dishonor their own fathers if a group if a culture
01:45:02.300 hates their own fathers then they'll also hate their own people and uh i don't i really don't
01:45:09.920 know any i don't know any community that is more vicious than reformed evangelicals so i expect
01:45:16.380 another shoe to drop um and now you you know you don't have to waste your time uh watching whatever
01:45:23.060 the next shoe is uh because the answer is uh there is no bombshell there is no smoking gun there is
01:45:28.560 no evidence um other than that which predates the zoom call which would mean um earlier sins
01:45:36.180 that uh that have been talked about prayed about uh taught um and most importantly repented of
01:45:45.600 Amen. So praise God for the gospel that, um, that, uh, whatever elements of, of real hatred,
01:45:53.540 not made up sin, but real hatred was actually there in this young man's heart. Um, those aren't
01:46:00.120 that, that hatred is not there anymore. And, um, we're good. I saw, um, it was a CREC pastor. I
01:46:08.360 think it's Joshua Hames pastor. I forget his name. Um, but, uh, the secretary of defense was,
01:46:14.600 uh is a member of their church and just selected by yeah very awesome yeah w's in the chat praise
01:46:21.760 god so you got a secretary of defense uh pete something forget his last name oh yeah um and
01:46:28.120 he's a member at uh joshua hames church and joshua hames is not the pastor but um um anyways it seems
01:46:34.700 like a great church and uh but a lot of christians you know mainly reformed christians again c.a most
01:46:41.500 vicious people in the world um but uh we're you know jumping on and saying you know um this guy's
01:46:47.660 not a christian he's a serial adulterer and blah blah blah because he's he's had affairs in the
01:46:52.400 past um but his pastor came out and said um uh yeah he has sinned and he's talked about it openly
01:47:01.240 and publicly like he he has a sinful past um but he's been faithful now for years and uh but then
01:47:08.880 the main thing he said was uh his CREC pastor said uh he's a member of good standing in my church
01:47:15.040 and that should be enough and I remember thinking man yeah I like that yeah uh can I say that he
01:47:22.020 should be a Baptist um I I like that how come I couldn't say that right a CREC pastor says look
01:47:30.120 the guy's a member in my church we've extended to him the right hand of fellowship as a member
01:47:35.300 in good standing uh whatever sin he had is done and um and yeah like uh i you know we he's good
01:47:46.800 so move on yeah these are not the joys you're looking for um and i and i i read that today
01:47:52.960 and i just thought like amen amen good on you crc pastor yep um i tried saying that recently
01:48:02.220 but joel you don't know what the lord does that maybe maybe the fact that you said it recently
01:48:06.180 made a sin you could say it recently maybe i like that i'll tell you what i believe instead
01:48:13.540 i wish you were right um i think instead unfortunately um
01:48:19.380 serial affairs are more forgivable than breaching the post-war consensus
01:48:25.600 respectable sins like oh i understand how you get frustrated traffic oh you looked at this
01:48:31.660 I understand that you cheated on your wife multiple times.
01:48:36.820 That is a respectable sin.
01:48:40.360 Seriously. 1.00
01:48:42.380 Serial adultery is respectable by reformed evangelicals 0.52
01:48:48.640 when compared with breaching the post-war consensus. 0.58
01:48:55.460 And if that doesn't make you see that maybe there's a problem,
01:48:59.480 and I understand you can go too far.
01:49:00.860 there are there really are guys who have gone too far i believe that there are guys who have
01:49:04.980 gone too far and i don't associate with those guys right i love those guys i think some of them
01:49:10.820 are brothers some of them might not be god god sees the heart man looks the outward appearance
01:49:14.740 um but in terms of those that i associate with and partner with andrew risker steven wolf ogden
01:49:21.200 like right uh 80 robles um none of us are are jew haters it's not like so so number one even if we
01:49:32.200 were it'd be tough to make a case for that being a worse sin than serial adultery yeah right number
01:49:39.060 two and this one don't miss this one it's a big one we're not even if yes but it's not it's not
01:49:46.760 true and the closest that you could even say is that a guy in my church started to flirt with it
01:49:53.380 started to flirt with it because he got he took the whole bottle of red pills at once you know
01:49:59.800 i mean he like he had more freedom than he elon buys twitter and this guy moves out of germany
01:50:04.600 to america like i mean this is a guy who's never he never even breathed a single breath of freedom
01:50:09.460 before and then all of a sudden he gets like you know a huge you know just overwhelmed by it and
01:50:16.300 Yeah, and he goes a little bit hardcore, but he's a great guy.
01:50:20.760 Loves the Lord.
01:50:21.300 Great theology.
01:50:22.720 And I think he went too far, and he came back.
01:50:26.580 And his previous pastor, I did him the courtesy.
01:50:28.740 He was concerned because he loves him.
01:50:30.740 He used to be a member of his church.
01:50:32.160 I think he's gone too far.
01:50:33.220 I said, okay, well, I've been working on it, and I think we're okay now.
01:50:38.260 Well, me and my elders want to hear, okay, great, let's do a meeting.
01:50:42.840 We did it.
01:50:44.200 It should have been done.
01:50:44.960 it was never done and sadly i think it's still not done yep and and i'm just the only reason
01:50:50.380 i'm saying all this is just um though there there's your sign there was some uh comedian
01:50:56.900 back in the day that was his tagline he says it there's your sign awesome with a southern draw
01:51:02.260 um but yeah that like when we say there's a problem this judeo-christianity this um post-war 0.86
01:51:09.240 consensus and we say like there really is idolatry here it really is idolatry it's foreign
01:51:14.900 it's foreign to uh the historic christian faith it's foreign to the reformers and the way they
01:51:20.860 thought about things it's foreign and it's and it's scary um the reason i only mention
01:51:25.700 this is just to say that that would be an example it's like serial adulterer and you say hey
01:51:31.960 stop commenting on this this is not your business he's a member of my church
01:51:36.580 we've examined it we've settled it he's repented that's enough
01:51:41.020 shove off right pound sand and i'm sitting here saying amen well said so we can do that for serial
01:51:50.000 adultery can can we do that you get you get the point you get the point and the answer is no we
01:51:58.100 can't the reformed uh the reformed world cannot but by god's grace one day they will be able to
01:52:03.860 if you want to find out more about my views on israel the modern state of israel today how
01:52:08.640 Christians should think about it, about Talmudic Judaism, about whether or not Israel today,
01:52:15.580 God still has a covenant with them, yes or no, whether or not Israel today ethnically
01:52:20.000 is actually even tied to the Israel of the Bible, tied to Abraham. All those things are important
01:52:27.560 and fascinating, and they matter for what's going on in our culture today. It's really relevant.
01:52:33.840 And so if you want to check that out, go to patreon.com forward slash Right Response Ministries.
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01:52:42.840 I've got a nine-part series with me and Pastor Andrew Isker on that topic, and it's fantastic.
01:52:48.840 All right.
01:52:49.480 Thank you guys so much.
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01:52:55.960 Say bye-bye to Mabel.
01:52:57.540 She's doing good.
01:52:58.660 We're going to go see Mama.
01:53:00.520 All right.
01:53:01.720 Bye-bye.
01:53:03.840 We'll be right back.