The NXR Podcast - June 27, 2025


THE LIVESTREAM - Supreme Court NUKES Rogue Judges | Is We Getting Mass Deportations?


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In this episode, Pastor Ken continues to discuss the problem of judges overstepping their authority and holding up President Trump's executive orders. The Supreme Court has now ruled that district judges cannot issue nationwide injunctions against Trump's immigration policies. What does this mean for the future of our nation?

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00:01:00.400 episode, Trump has now been in office for approximately six months. And during this
00:01:05.080 time, his hands have been tied behind his back in large part due to district judges that continue
00:01:10.940 to overrule his executive orders. We've seen this happen again and again. One example recently is
00:01:17.400 Trump wanting to put an end to birthright citizenship, which is the correct decision 1.00
00:01:22.820 to make. Now, the good news is that the Supreme Court has just ruled that district judges cannot 1.00
00:01:28.680 issue nationwide injunctions alone. Due to this ruling, for instance, in my home state,
00:01:35.200 the state of Texas, there has been a law to restrict the use of pornography from minors
00:01:41.500 that requires for them to provide identification.
00:01:44.720 Granted, we'd like to see porn banned altogether,
00:01:47.600 but this is a step in the right direction 1.00
00:01:50.020 that those who are under the age of 18
00:01:52.060 would have to provide some kind of identification
00:01:55.180 before they're able to access pornography.
00:01:57.960 This law has been passed for two years,
00:02:00.620 but it has not gone into effect
00:02:02.420 because it has been held up by district judges.
00:02:05.660 This will no longer be the case.
00:02:07.360 Another example would be LGBTQ curriculum in schools in the state of Maryland.
00:02:13.040 A school board, actually, instead of a district judge.
00:02:15.660 In this case, it was a school board that went against a law that was passed in Maryland
00:02:20.180 that allowed for parents to withdraw their students, withdraw their children to opt out
00:02:26.560 of certain lessons that contained LGBTQ propaganda.
00:02:31.800 And now that law will go into effect and the parents will have that right over their children.
00:02:36.860 It's been held up in the meantime. So this is a massive decision from the Supreme Court that allows our executive officials who are actually elected by the populace to be able to rule and carry out their job and push back on wickedness, particularly as it pertains to Donald Trump and ending birthright citizenship and hopefully, by God's grace, getting mass deportations.
00:02:59.700 So where do we go from here? What are the next steps? We need more aggressive policies moving
00:03:05.360 ahead. Now, the last thing that I'll mention is this, the dissenting judges. It was a 6-3 decision
00:03:10.820 in the Supreme Court. Dissenting judges were Jackson, Kagan, and Sotomayor. And I would be
00:03:17.120 remiss if I did not remind the listener, we're a Christian podcast. Isaiah says that one of the
00:03:24.020 forms of God's judgment upon a conquered and rebellious people, God judging that nation,
00:03:30.480 is that they would be ruled by women and children. I am aware that Coney Amy Barrett, she took the 0.95
00:03:36.200 right position. She even wrote the majority opinion on this matter. I'd like to see her go
00:03:41.700 home too, right? Equal weights, equal measures. I'm going to be fair across the board, but it 0.96
00:03:46.220 should not come to us as a coincidence that you have three dissenting opinions, three people
00:03:50.440 saying, no, let's keep the anchor babies, let's keep the immigrants, let's keep, you know, LGBT,
00:03:56.640 you know, in schools, all these kinds of things. And the president, that the people of this nation
00:04:00.940 actually chose to elect, he should have his hands tied behind his back. The three judges who
00:04:07.240 dissented, again, Jackson, Kagan, Sotomayor, all three of them women, one of them, Kagan, is a Jew,
00:04:13.760 and Sotomayor is a second-generation Puerto Rican immigrant. What we need, if we're going
00:04:21.620 to succeed as a nation, we need many things. First and foremost, we need repentance of our sin and
00:04:26.460 turning in faith to the Lord Jesus Christ. But in terms of practicalities, political solutions,
00:04:32.420 we need men in office. We need them not to be Jewish or Islamic or anything else but Christian 0.89
00:04:37.920 men in office, and we need them to be American Christian men in office. I have a dream, brothers
00:04:44.140 and sisters. It's a simple dream. I don't feel like it's that big of an ask, right? There's other
00:04:48.400 things we could get more technical. I've talked in more specificities about my position in the past,
00:04:53.620 but if I could just have three things, it would be this. When it comes to the political rulers,
00:04:57.360 the civil magistrate in our nation, I would like them to be Christian American men. Christian
00:05:04.220 American men. Think about how crazy that is. It's not just, oh, we're missing the Christian 1.00
00:05:10.900 piece because we're more of a secular. No, we don't have any of those three things. They're
00:05:15.220 not men. They're not American. They're not American. We're looking at a mayor in New York 0.99
00:05:21.260 who is not an American. So we're looking at immigrants and women and Muslims and Jews and
00:05:29.000 atheists as the rulers of our nation and wondering, what happened? What's the problem? What's going on
00:05:35.040 here? It should not be a surprise. So let's tune into this episode now.
00:05:48.140 All right, here we are, GA. Happy Friday. Happy Friday. We are going to do our best,
00:05:53.720 and when I say we, I mean mostly me, to keep this episode on the short end. We all have
00:05:58.580 obligations that we need to get to uh and it's friday and uh there's just a lot going on so i'm
00:06:03.840 going to go ahead and let either michael or wes start off with this episode i'll jump right into
00:06:09.060 the huge news i mean this ruling is incredible because what has happened so let's let's pull
00:06:14.400 apart the executive order demanding an end to birthright citizenship so that was written in
00:06:18.680 february and a number of different plaintiffs then filed suit saying hey we're seeking relief from
00:06:23.880 what we view as an infringement upon our constitutional rights.
00:06:27.980 These are people who were going to be deported
00:06:30.720 or who were not going to be given citizenship.
00:06:32.720 They're somehow going to be affected by it.
00:06:34.300 So they said, we're somehow going to be affected by it.
00:06:36.280 They appealed to the 14th Amendment, equal protection,
00:06:38.380 and said, you need to put a halt on this.
00:06:40.080 And we remember we talked about it.
00:06:41.640 Literally, there was like people being deported in the air.
00:06:44.420 There was Judge Bosenberg.
00:06:46.060 He's like, you need to bring them back.
00:06:47.840 Literally ordering the administration from the bench.
00:06:50.540 Here's what you need to do.
00:06:51.480 You need to do it now.
00:06:52.320 if you don't do it you need to tell me why you haven't done it and this was the story for the
00:06:56.460 last five months and it was infuriating like you guys have to understand this model of the
00:07:01.440 judiciary ruling from the bench is not at all how the separation of powers how the constitution
00:07:06.380 how all the articles this was not how it was designed to function there's a reason the
00:07:10.920 judiciary has no enforcement ability right they don't have an army they don't have a guard they
00:07:16.220 don't have a sergeant they're simply meant to be there to assist with interpretation and framing
00:07:21.860 but the executive has a lot of power and for five months that has been hamstrung yeah well we just
00:07:27.120 got a slate the supreme court they've been releasing decisions throughout the week and it
00:07:30.600 was today that they released an opinion with justice amy comey barrett she wrote the majority
00:07:36.700 so this was a 6-3 decision so herself and the five other conservative justices on the court
00:07:41.460 with a with katanji brown jackson writing the dissenting opinion right so 6-3 opinion
00:07:47.540 Jackson writing the dissenting
00:07:49.560 Barrett writing the majority
00:07:51.540 and they didn't really address necessarily
00:07:53.520 the 14th amendment so can you end
00:07:55.560 birthright citizenship can you not
00:07:57.100 are these people eligible what they got
00:07:59.520 into was to basically say listen
00:08:01.380 on behalf of these individuals
00:08:03.380 a judge cannot simply say
00:08:05.220 there's an 82 year old grandmother
00:08:07.460 who has a chihuahua that's dying
00:08:09.360 and lives in a trailer home and so on behalf
00:08:11.480 of her across the nation 1.00
00:08:13.340 I'm going to order an end to X 1.00
00:08:15.480 Y and Z they came 1.00
00:08:17.480 down hard with an incredible ruling saying okay sure maybe for that individual you can say listen
00:08:22.460 she's been here so long we think she is is eligible for equal protection but it's for her only right
00:08:29.400 all the rest of the people that is what the executive said and the executive has that power
00:08:34.600 and so this is really an incredible ruling we're going to play a clip here from trump in a minute
00:08:39.040 talking about it that all sudden opens up tons of other things and then we have of course the big
00:08:44.260 beautiful bill senators are staying in dc over the weekend it mandates a minimum of a million
00:08:49.300 deportations a year now that million a year is about 10 of what we really need correct right but
00:08:55.920 but guys we've got to start somewhere and we can get into this in the end all of these these
00:09:00.860 elections so putting at time money and effort into elections time and money into judicial review
00:09:05.660 time in legal battles it can sometimes feel very frustrating you put all the money into an election
00:09:10.680 and you don't win it or you elect someone and they get up and they betray you or you put money
00:09:15.560 into a supreme court case and they end up ruling against a good example would be the abortion pills
00:09:19.900 which the supreme court basically declined to say yeah they should stop being legal but we need time
00:09:26.460 and these rulings today regardless of what you think about trump and we know the problems with
00:09:30.900 the supreme court they're giving us time in god's grace if practically speaking we're talking about
00:09:37.200 hundreds of thousands, if not a couple million people a year that are no longer eligible for
00:09:41.440 citizenship just because they took a vacation in the United States. That's huge. That's millions
00:09:47.120 more people over the next couple of years, even if we only have it for three years. That's millions
00:09:51.520 more people that just simply won't be able to claim citizenship, won't be able to get the roots
00:09:56.000 in here, won't be able to begin taking your social security, your this, your that. I'm white-pilled.
00:10:01.540 It's Friday. I think this is great. And it kind of provides, all right, that was the next step.
00:10:06.080 now we keep moving forward from there yeah right it's great yeah we we've talked about this before
00:10:10.740 um i'll at least speak for myself um i i don't think i think the problems that we've created
00:10:15.280 are too big i don't think we're going to be able to uh to fix them within the system uh not entirely
00:10:20.020 so i don't i don't think we can just democracy our way out of this um i don't think we just got
00:10:24.220 elect good people yeah yeah exactly i've thought that um you know when i was younger and and knew
00:10:30.180 less of what was going on but i i just i don't think that's going to happen uh because i think
00:10:34.840 that just even our system of government and you know a constitutional republic is what we're
00:10:39.300 supposed to have uh that like all of our founders said that's that's fit for a particular type of
00:10:43.900 person namely a moral upstanding religious person and we don't have that type of person today we are
00:10:49.680 a nation filled with degenerates that said uh that that doesn't mean we shouldn't be accelerationist
00:10:55.520 right so even if we think that this isn't going to get fixed um by just you know democracy you
00:11:00.940 you know, even harder. And instead, it's probably going to get fixed by some kind of cataclysmic
00:11:06.340 event, you know, some Cromwellian figure that takes power or balkanizing, you know, where
00:11:11.100 the country ends up getting split up into three or four or five different countries. Even if you
00:11:17.140 think that that's more likely, and you're a student of history, and you see that as being
00:11:22.020 the most probable solution to the problems and what will likely occur, still, I don't want the
00:11:28.400 nation. I have children. I don't want the nation to crash and burn. I don't want there to be blood
00:11:31.900 in the streets. I don't want a civil war. Exactly. I don't want any of those things. And so if we
00:11:36.140 keep heading that direction towards some kind of American Caesar or Balkanizing or whatever it is, 0.87
00:11:41.540 I would still like that to be as clean and peaceful of a process towards that switch 0.94
00:11:46.960 as possible. I would like it to be as few casualties, as few deaths as absolutely possible.
00:11:54.300 So if we can, you know, give ourselves, buy ourselves a little bit of time by slowing immigration and deporting a bunch of people and these kinds of things as we continue to battle out, I think that that is a positive and that that's something that all of us, regardless of where you're at on the right, pretty much everybody who's right wing should be able to say, yeah, this is a win, we need more, but this is a win and we're grateful.
00:12:22.280 Yeah. And I wanted to mention, this is a really important ruling that has needed to happen for a long time, because this little maneuver where a district judge gives a national injunction on an executive order or something like that, this is a newer idea.
00:12:41.820 And it actually was never, you know, like if some of you are familiar with something like Robert's Rules of Order, which is how a board has to conduct itself.
00:12:52.120 They agree these are the rules that we're going to use whenever we meet.
00:12:55.760 We'll have motions, we'll have seconds, all of those sorts of things.
00:12:58.900 Organizations have rules that they use to conduct their business.
00:13:03.180 and there are certain rules for what judges are allowed to do what they're allowed to strike down
00:13:10.800 that have just been built up over time that weren't part of the constitution but just over time they
00:13:15.740 decided like this would be a good rule i'm not saying all of them have been good rules like
00:13:19.420 judicial review i think was a problem but my point is this this thing where a small district judge
00:13:26.860 can give an injunction that applies to a national group, a national class, a national
00:13:33.500 kind of target is new. And it's never been introduced into the rules for how the government
00:13:41.460 runs itself. And so we have actually needed clarity on this point for a long time. It was
00:13:46.260 in the 1960s with the Civil Rights Act that judges first, they weren't giving national injunctions,
00:13:53.620 but they were giving large injunctions to a school district.
00:13:57.860 That was where it started.
00:13:59.240 One district judge, instead of speaking just to a teacher or a principal,
00:14:03.680 would say to an entire school district, you must all do this.
00:14:08.040 Even though the student who may or may not have been affected by the law
00:14:12.220 was not in that other school, the judge was able to start applying it broadly
00:14:16.720 and saying all you schools over there that don't have someone who's suing
00:14:19.200 have to follow this.
00:14:21.040 So from the 60s, and then it has just branched out until in the early 2000s and the 2010s was really when judges started giving national injunctions that would countermand an executive order for the entire country.
00:14:36.480 And so this is something that that has done a lot of damage to just how presidents are able to.
00:14:44.540 And and to be fair, conservative judges and liberal judges have done this against Republican presidents and Democratic presidents through the 2010s.
00:14:53.140 nevertheless this is something that has that has yet to be decided and has really been kind of a
00:14:59.760 loophole that courts have been able to exploit to have one judge basically impose his own view of
00:15:06.400 the law or politics on the entire country which which when when i think uh uh amy coney barrett
00:15:13.380 quoted ketanji brown jackson ketanji brown jackson had said at one point that we don't want um
00:15:21.500 presidents to have um unlimited authority and we don't want judges to have it what really happens
00:15:27.420 is we've just replaced the unlimited authority that the president is not supposed to have
00:15:31.760 with a district judge who now speaks for for the entire country yeah i think amy said something
00:15:38.280 along the lines of like um you know the this uh uh unharnessed uh executive power yeah it's like
00:15:45.780 yeah so let's read this quote from her this is why we put on the flip side it's just unharnessed
00:15:50.560 judicial power yeah there it is this is one of the greatest dunks yeah just two sentence dunks
00:15:55.900 that you've probably i'd prefer to see it from a legal side i know you know honestly probably
00:16:00.780 clarence thomas wrote that that's true i'll include that makes it better and it's because
00:16:04.820 the majority collaborate clarence thomas they do collaborate he would be the guy on the supreme
00:16:09.380 court well he's dunk a ball you know so i feel like i i would like to believe it's from clarence
00:16:14.460 on the texas porn bill right oh good for him on the majority and kagan on the dissent he's my guy
00:16:19.020 But listen to this dunk.
00:16:20.820 So this is from the majority opinion of the court from the decision just came down today.
00:16:25.300 If you're just joining us saying that district judges cannot injunct nationwide.
00:16:30.140 Barrett says this.
00:16:31.000 We will not dwell on Justice Jackson's argument, which is at odds with more than two centuries worth of precedent, not to mention the Constitution itself.
00:16:40.600 We observe only this.
00:16:41.860 Justice Jackson decries an imperial executive, a powerful, all-powerful executive, while embracing an imperial judiciary.
00:16:51.440 Nobody should have unlimited power unilaterally across the nation.
00:16:55.420 The judiciary should. 1.00
00:16:56.700 That's literally what she's doing. 0.99
00:16:57.920 It's crazy.
00:16:58.460 Listen to her.
00:16:59.420 I'm going to keep reading it and continue a little bit.
00:17:01.680 She continues, nobody disputes that the executive has a duty to follow the law.
00:17:05.380 No one's saying he doesn't.
00:17:06.280 But the judiciary does not have unbridled authority to enforce this obligation.
00:17:12.760 In fact, sometimes the law prohibits the judiciary from doing so.
00:17:15.920 See, for example, Mayberry versus Madison.
00:17:18.140 Observing, going down, observing the limits on judicial authority, including as relevant here, the boundaries of the Judiciary Act of 1789 is required by a judge's oath to follow that law.
00:17:28.900 And it's funny, she says again, Justice Jackson skips over that part because analyzing the governing statutes involves boring legalese.
00:17:35.580 And she literally quotes her as in, guys, the weight of the Constitution, the weight of the original setup of judges, the weight even of the judge's oath of office, all testify against.
00:17:47.140 You cannot have a judge in Hawaii at 2 a.m. in the morning say you can't deport 2 million people that are here illegally.
00:17:54.120 That is insane.
00:17:55.240 Turn the plane around.
00:17:56.860 Right.
00:17:57.120 Yep.
00:17:57.260 Yep. Yeah. So really an important rule that I guess what we're saying is it seems most likely that this will unclog or unblockade a lot of the executive orders in other areas that Trump has has put into place.
00:18:16.720 So he theoretically will be able to issue an executive order, and it won't be able to be blocked nationally by one district judge.
00:18:26.840 So it's beyond, even though the deportation case that this came from is an important one that we want to win, it's much bigger than that.
00:18:35.200 It really, you know, we need to get spending still, like you mentioned, Wes.
00:18:40.820 But this is a huge impediment to the president being able to carry out what he's trying to do that theoretically has been lifted at this point.
00:18:50.380 Let's watch a clip from him and then we'll go to our commercial break.
00:18:52.500 But it's kind of called we do a little Caesar.
00:18:54.820 Basically for three years now.
00:18:56.200 Sure, he can't literally spend money at will.
00:18:58.300 Right.
00:18:58.620 But he can kind of do what he wants.
00:19:00.280 We just have to get our guy in here in 2028.
00:19:02.140 Right.
00:19:02.720 For the next three years, Trump can do what he wants.
00:19:04.560 and I hope that he wants to do some great stuff for this country.
00:19:07.820 We can do what we want, man.
00:19:09.500 $800 billion more to Israel.
00:19:11.600 It's like we finally got the freedom that we need.
00:19:13.580 We have the power. 0.91
00:19:14.600 $1 trillion to Israel.
00:19:16.580 We're going to rescue Bibby from international court that he's going up to.
00:19:19.620 Send in the Marines.
00:19:21.000 Let's watch this clip from him responding to this decision.
00:19:22.940 The court has delivered a monumental victory for the Constitution,
00:19:28.040 the separation of powers, and the rule of law.
00:19:30.640 this decision and thanks to this decision we can now promptly file to proceed with numerous
00:19:37.960 policies that have been wrongly enjoined on a nationwide basis and some of the cases we're
00:19:44.100 talking about would be ending birthright citizenship which now comes to the fore
00:19:49.820 that was meant for the babies of slaves it wasn't meant for people trying to scam the system and
00:19:54.920 come into the country on a vacation do you believe this ends the power of the lower court
00:20:00.380 judges to stop your agenda do you see this as a full green light for your
00:20:04.040 agenda going forward well you'd have to really speak to the lawyers about that
00:20:07.280 but this is really also a decision based on common sense so yes yes he does see 0.98
00:20:14.300 it that way which is wonderful yeah and he just needs to keep the American
00:20:18.940 people in mind I remember we go ham we and birthright citizenship that is a
00:20:22.700 pro-america policy it is through and through we speculated and we were not
00:20:26.720 the only ones but people were speculating that he was intentionally doing orders and trying to
00:20:33.660 enforce him in a way that would that would require that the supreme court get involved
00:20:37.980 specifically to ask and answer this question that they ruled on today and so i can see that we we on
00:20:44.820 this show said it seems like maybe that's what he's doing he's poking here in such a way it's
00:20:50.660 it's like you know when mom and dad the kids are just kind of squabbling a little bit they kind of
00:20:55.720 ignore them but then when one like smacks the other one in the back of the head then mom and
00:20:59.560 dad have to get involved i'm not saying that right supreme court is mom and dad but we speculated on
00:21:03.960 the show that he's poking strong enough that it's going to provoke the supreme court having to take
00:21:09.220 action on this to deal with the actual principle of who's in charge is is it the executive president
00:21:16.060 that was elected by the people or is the person in charge these random district judges yeah and
00:21:21.900 the conflict will probably come but you can imagine if in like first 30 days a judge said
00:21:26.520 hey you can't do that and trump straight up defied it the left would have chimped they would have
00:21:31.720 freaked out and still probably there will come a conflict yeah but every single day i really
00:21:36.180 believe this more young men are waking up more families are having children more churches are
00:21:40.440 growing the longer you can delay that inevitable inevitable conflict i really think plays in our
00:21:45.520 favor and so practically thinking politically this is not like oh it was a 16d chess plan all along
00:21:51.640 but practically speaking in this case by not defying and miller was furious steven miller
00:21:56.780 he was furious about the deportations and what the judges were doing yeah but practically by
00:22:01.320 working through these avenues and working to exhaust them first you avoid a type of cataclysmic
00:22:06.160 confrontation that would have burned cities that would have stalled spending bills for instance
00:22:10.780 like this is politics it's tough your base is mad at you it's three months in you're like why is he
00:22:15.720 letting this rogue judiciary just roll over him we'll look at this now we have a green light if
00:22:22.000 the supreme court had voted the other way like if coney barrett and roberts had gone with the three
00:22:27.780 that's would have been the liberals then it would have been really a question of if trump is going
00:22:32.060 to but but that really would have been the time to pull out all the stops and say yeah no you're
00:22:36.240 not in charge and um i'm going to show you that you're not in charge right let's go to our first
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00:26:36.960 Okay. So one of the things that was notable about that decision was that it was six to three.
00:26:43.240 And so all the quote and West, you said this already, the quote unquote conservative judges sided with with the administration on this question.
00:26:52.000 Sometimes a legal case will come through the Supreme Court and it'll be a nine to zero decision.
00:26:57.880 And that's usually on some procedure that, you know, all sides have to just agree.
00:27:02.620 Yeah, like that was being misapplied. That was a procedure that clearly is wrong.
00:27:06.380 But when you see a six to three decision, usually with the court that we have right now, that's an indication of sanity versus insanity, right?
00:27:16.520 Even with our liberal, quote unquote, conservative justices, if all six of them side on one side of an issue, we don't get one or two of them going with the liberals.
00:27:25.600 That's usually a pretty clear sign that even they have to recognize that this has to be the way that life and society and reality works.
00:27:37.620 So the reason I'm bringing that up is the Supreme Court hears a lot of cases and then it issues rulings in batches.
00:27:44.540 Well, a lot of rulings came out today, today, Friday the 27th.
00:27:49.180 And so we're going to highlight a few of them that just came through.
00:27:52.820 But the thing to note with this, these are not all of them that came through.
00:27:56.480 I think there were like 20 or something like that.
00:27:59.000 But the thing to note with this is all of these that we have on the screen were also 6-3 decisions.
00:28:05.780 All the conservatives sided against the liberal judges in deciding this.
00:28:10.360 So the first one—
00:28:11.260 Just a couple months ago, we were highlighting Barrett's terrible decision on a different immigration-related case.
00:28:15.900 So even that signifies a transition.
00:28:19.940 Mahmoud versus Taylor.
00:28:21.080 this was the one that uh joel mentioned in the opening monologue um where um parents were not
00:28:28.620 allowed to opt their children out of this lgbtq indoctrination in in schools and so the supreme
00:28:34.940 court said no they have to be able to do this and um i think it was alito or thomas who wrote the
00:28:39.940 decision on this or the the opinion said this is a violation of the freedom of religion because
00:28:44.960 parents ought to be able to um got it's so interesting like nowhere in our constitution
00:28:51.520 is there a right of parents over their children that was so assumed for all of history right
00:28:57.640 so this didn't actually give parents a right over their children but it did say
00:29:01.740 parents have the right to instruct their children in religious matters yeah i like the bringing of
00:29:08.540 the lgbtq into the question of uh like hey this is a religious thing because back with dobbs versus
00:29:15.980 jackson the women's health decision yep it was thomas that also mentioned hey there's a potential
00:29:20.580 there that we revisit uh bergefell versus hodges that's a good point on revisit this as hey maybe
00:29:26.580 this wasn't the best thing and we're seeing it infringing on religious rights right now yep
00:29:30.140 good the second one um was the free speech coalition versus paxton this is the one that
00:29:35.680 we mentioned earlier where our attorney general here in texas has been suing to allow texas to
00:29:41.100 put its law into place requiring id verification for people to access pornography online so again
00:29:48.020 six to three it's insane three women like no uh you yeah think about that you the state yeah it's 0.53
00:29:54.800 crazy are uh we don't think that you're allowed to just make sure minors don't access this yeah 1.00
00:29:59.740 and it was kagan a jewish woman she's a practicing conservative jew was like no children need to
00:30:05.660 be you can't put up a barrier from what i've seen that's an actual position conservative
00:30:11.340 judaism yeah it is in conservative judaism i'm sure there are exceptions as there always are but
00:30:17.540 by and large seems pretty perversion friendly i mean imagine like we talk about the motherly
00:30:24.340 instinct i know that women have and sometimes that's why their decisions legal decisions are
00:30:30.160 squishy we know how damaging pornography is well to all people but to children especially that in 1.00
00:30:37.080 her dissent like we know it's bad yeah but literally like it would infringe because what
00:30:41.420 happens is when you have something like this it's called the chilling effect so like if you have to
00:30:45.580 put an id and the same thing if you visit like a liquor website and if it were to ask you like you
00:30:49.420 need to put your id it makes you rethink the decision exactly to prove you're 21 someone's
00:30:53.300 like i don't have my id on me i don't want my info being given and so they don't do it so all
00:30:57.700 of these these terrible sites are coming saying hey this law it infringes on our free speech
00:31:02.320 because it's being chilled and three court justices were basically like yeah we agree
00:31:07.040 nobody should at any point be encumbered before viewing x y and z well the irony here is that
00:31:12.780 liberals oppose that sort of law when it comes to showing ultrasounds before abortions correct
00:31:18.800 you know and so not that it's any surprise now but the double standard is is incredible
00:31:24.300 yeah so yeah all right okay number uh three this was this was an interesting one yesterday yeah
00:31:30.600 medicaid versus planned parenthood uh this allows um states to withhold medicaid reimbursements or
00:31:39.700 to bar plant parenthood services and treatment which we know is is abortion um from medicaid
00:31:45.700 reimbursement and so up to this point um you were allowed to get an abortion if you were low income
00:31:51.640 you can have the state pay for it through medicaid and i forget which state um withdrew
00:31:57.540 funding from planned parenthood reimbursements and then of course it went up to the supreme court
00:32:02.220 and now states but this is this is going to open the door to a lot of things states will be able
00:32:07.580 to now start saying with our state money we basically are allowed to do what we want we
00:32:12.760 don't have to fund everything that you tell us or would like us to fund right well the ruling too
00:32:18.420 was that they're not subject to judicial challenge.
00:32:20.940 So a judge can't come into Medicaid and say,
00:32:22.740 you have to cover Ozempic or you can't cover this, that, or the other.
00:32:25.660 No, the states have the leeway, which is what it was intended to be.
00:32:29.080 It was Robert E. Lee who warned,
00:32:30.860 if you gather all these states under one big federal government,
00:32:33.360 it's going to get despotic.
00:32:34.740 It's going to come into a state with their Medicaid and their budget
00:32:37.120 and tell them they have to cover this.
00:32:39.060 And the Supreme Court rightly saying, 0.98
00:32:40.980 no, a judge doesn't have authority over that budget area
00:32:43.900 of what a state spends its money on.
00:32:45.280 um united states versus scrumetti um this was the one in tennessee that made a lot of headlines
00:32:52.180 this one came out a week or two ago um where tennessee was trying to ban
00:32:57.380 puberty blockers and hormone therapy for minors i originally thought west that it
00:33:02.600 also blocked um surgeries transition surgeries um but i didn't see that when i read back over
00:33:09.140 it today so if it blocks the hormone therapy yes then i'm sure basically de facto i mean that's an
00:33:14.760 argument for the from the lesser to the greater yeah i feel like yeah again it's only for minors
00:33:19.460 but like what like you said earlier west politics and steps and if it blocks chemical castration
00:33:25.540 it blocks physical castration yep yep so that was that was really encouraging and and i guess the
00:33:32.240 other thing that the listener needs to realize is you know that happened in tennessee but but like
00:33:37.720 we said earlier all of these decisions the way our law works in the u.s there's a domino effect
00:33:42.420 a partially common law situation that we inherited from the english common law system and a written
00:33:48.900 out legal code and the the decisions that are made open the door it's kind of you know alternate
00:33:55.780 pathways and they open the door for other people or states or entities to then try and pass similar
00:34:03.060 legislation in their own state without their without the ability for people to challenge
00:34:08.260 um when oklahoma does it or texas does it or things like that so this this this would potentially
00:34:13.380 open the door for all states to ban um hormone therapy and things like that within their state
00:34:20.260 for minors right it's not just about tennessee it's it's a much bigger thing yep and then i won't
00:34:25.380 we really mentioned number five this is the one that we spent our first segment talking about
00:34:28.500 most of all the deportation to third countries um no this is actually a different oh this is a
00:34:34.660 a different one this was from about a week ago now yes yes you're right it was an injunction that
00:34:39.580 was like hey you can't deport them without requiring to show that they have a risk of
00:34:43.000 potential harm yeah and it just released relieved them from the injunction said no like you you don't 0.61
00:34:47.660 have to necessarily show this when you're deporting illegal immigrants you can send them in this case
00:34:52.480 to third world countries i remember now because you're not going to sweden because what try what
00:34:56.680 trump was trying to do was you know if if people immigrated from nicaragua and he wanted to deport
00:35:02.500 them back to nicaragua we have to have deportation arrangements with these countries and so i don't
00:35:08.600 remember if it was nicaragua or not i don't mean to to demean nicaragua if this is another policy
00:35:13.300 but i'm using it as an example there were countries who were saying yeah we know that we sent a bunch
00:35:19.340 of illegal immigrants aliens to the united states but we are not going to allow you to fly them back
00:35:26.680 and drop them off in our country we're not going to sign that deal so trump's solution was okay 0.86
00:35:31.100 well we'll send them to a different country that is more near to where they are um and maybe more
00:35:37.380 culturally or linguistically similar like it was doing with el salvador putting them in the prisons
00:35:42.020 in el salvador and so trump's solution was that country is not going to allow us to send people
00:35:47.000 back to them we're going to send those those aliens back to just some other country and this
00:35:52.480 decision allows trump because that was a big another big roadblock to deportations is we could 0.98
00:35:58.460 intend to deport them all along, but legally we have to have an arrangement with the receiving
00:36:03.440 country to receive them. And so if you've got, you know, a million people from Nicaragua and 0.98
00:36:08.220 Nicaragua says you can't bring them back for all intents and purposes, they would just be stuck 1.00
00:36:12.080 here. Being able to send them to a third country is a good workaround. And now it's, it's a legal 0.70
00:36:17.980 workaround. Like what's Sudan going to do? Like go to war with us and be like, we're not taking
00:36:21.760 them. Right. Right. Yeah. Okay. So this is what we want to do. We're going to go early to our 0.97
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00:36:32.000 and some future directions and big announcements, exciting things coming down the pipeline for the
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00:41:06.400 all right here we are all right welcome back uh so um joel mentioned some um exciting news and
00:41:14.480 actually you know there will be more exciting news over the next months and things like that
00:41:19.440 plans always trying to make the show better and um more available all of those things uh this is a
00:41:25.880 little bit of a sad news today yeah uh i am moving on from right response ministries in my official
00:41:31.300 capacity here and we want to be up front there are two primary reasons uh the first reason is
00:41:37.500 i have had growing for a while a desire to do a creative project and i wrote a book a couple years
00:41:46.000 ago but what i have in mind for this creative project is going to be almost all-consuming you
00:41:51.340 know it's it's i've been with teaching schedule in the summer i've been putting about 30 hours a
00:41:57.640 week into it recently, just getting this going. And so I'm excited about this project. It's not
00:42:02.860 going to be coming out till the fall, Lord willing. But I'm trying to recapture the myths and stories
00:42:09.180 that created the American identity from even, even from, from the European legends that we
00:42:16.100 inherited from the Dutch and the English and the French and things like that. We actually, as
00:42:20.980 Americans, as we started writing our own stories, we just kind of iterated on the themes and the
00:42:25.880 stories, and even some of the characters that we inherited from our European forefathers.
00:42:30.360 And so I've had a great desire to take those stories and legends, put them in a slightly
00:42:37.520 more modern form, and get them back out into circulation.
00:42:41.040 So examples of really well-known ones would be things like The Legend of Sleepy Hollow
00:42:45.100 or Rip Van Winkle, things like that.
00:42:47.420 So I'm going to be releasing those in audio form with slightly modernized language and
00:42:52.720 sound and you know spooky things a little bit haunted cosmos style or if any of you know the
00:42:59.600 podcast creep cast they do this with ghost stories um so if any of you know that that's
00:43:04.940 kind of the inspiration and then at the end of each season of that putting those stories
00:43:09.500 that are slightly modernized so that maybe a 12 year old can read it and not be confused by the
00:43:14.380 language put all of the stories into collections bound collections and and release those and so
00:43:19.860 i want to spend um maybe maybe a year 18 months going through all the regions of kind of the
00:43:26.360 earlier parts of america they all develop what's really interesting to me is they all develop their
00:43:30.980 own stories and legends but they're all kind of connected with what the american identity is and
00:43:35.380 so i want to be able to throw myself into that project with um a lot of commitment a lot of
00:43:41.120 focus um so i'll just give a plug now uh the the publishing company that i have that i publish my
00:43:47.940 book through is called iron screw publishing. And like I said, this won't be coming out until
00:43:52.400 probably September, but, um, you know, down the road, if you check out iron screw publishing,
00:43:56.420 that's where things will be released through. Um, now I want to also be upfront and make sure it
00:44:02.500 doesn't sound like, uh, I think, I think the, the, the listener and the watcher knows I'm
00:44:07.580 a little bit more of the dissenting voice on some of the things that we talk about here on the show.
00:44:11.780 So I'm not being pushed out. Joel's not being pushed out. In fact, um, Joel and I have been
00:44:16.100 having the conversation of when i transition out for a little while now yeah and each time it comes
00:44:19.800 up he's like yeah yeah but but not yet right but but hold on just wait you know and so joel has
00:44:24.640 actually um tried to to hold on to me so i'm incredibly grateful for that uh but in the same
00:44:30.040 way that with paul and barnabas uh kind of different perspectives and you can imagine if
00:44:34.880 if paul and barnabas if they had gone together and they'd taken john mark with them paul would
00:44:38.980 have just spent the whole time grumbling about john mark right right rather than focusing on
00:44:42.920 he was supposed to do so because i'm i'm a little bit different in in some of the views and um i i
00:44:48.440 just don't want to be pushing back all the time i don't necessarily want to be always having the
00:44:53.400 conversations on the stream or even behind um the the closed doors of uh you know disagreement
00:44:59.880 or dissent i i want you guys to be able to also focus on your project really really well and um
00:45:06.120 you know pursue forward with with as much vigor and enthusiasm and energy as you can so
00:45:11.400 So the last couple months, there are a couple times where I felt like a little bit of an anchor.
00:45:16.420 I don't think you guys ever made me feel that way, but just knowing the reality of it.
00:45:20.380 And it's a tough spot.
00:45:21.420 So Michael and I are good friends and we have, you know, offline, we have regular meetups and we'll talk about where we're at and the whole voice, you know, like if he has a different opinion or if he's, you know, I just, I don't know if that's right, you know, and then I'll give my reasoning and sometimes we'll agree.
00:45:39.140 But then there's other times where we disagree, but neither of us anathematizing either one,
00:45:44.040 both of us with immense respect for one another as brothers in Christ.
00:45:49.120 But it puts him in this, it's kind of an unfair situation is what I've come to realize,
00:45:54.520 because I have kind of, I just haven't wanted you to go.
00:45:57.480 So I keep saying like, yeah, okay, you want to transition out and I'll start working on
00:46:02.400 that transition first thing in 2030, you know, I'll get right on it, you know, in the year
00:46:06.420 of our lord 2035 you know um so i've been you know kind of dragging my feet and uh and he's like
00:46:11.560 joel i i feel like i need to go and and one of the things that's helped me is him helping me see
00:46:16.360 that when he does have a dissenting opinion and he could be right and we could be wrong or vice
00:46:21.180 versa but when he does have a dissenting opinion he's he's trying like and i have never gave you
00:46:26.120 know said you know like to west or michael that they can't ever disagree with me so i want to be
00:46:30.460 clear with that but still even though that's not like some law of the land it's not a requirement
00:46:35.180 it he's he's still you know he's just torn in this space of like i don't want the whole podcast to
00:46:41.400 end up becoming a debate and so so he's sitting there trying not to argue but then if he doesn't
00:46:47.680 voice his dissent if he doesn't voice that he disagrees then it's like he's on camera um right
00:46:54.000 alongside us and if he's not dissenting then it then it comes across as though he has all the
00:46:59.000 same views as we do and he doesn't and so it's not fair for you know when i'm going viral you
00:47:04.660 know right wing watch a couple times but it's not fair if like right wing watch is picking me up you
00:47:09.660 know and i'm going uber viral and the camera happens in that clip to shift to the wide shot
00:47:15.080 and michael's sitting next to me he's like and he's trying his best yeah exactly he's trying his
00:47:21.860 best not to like not to be argumentative and he doesn't want to be a concern bro because he's not
00:47:26.800 he always voices these things very maturely and he never anathematizes or anything like that so
00:47:32.920 he's trying not to be a concern bro but on the other hand he's like yeah Joel I don't know if I
00:47:36.180 necessarily want to um want you to to uh drag me in front of millions of people on your viral
00:47:42.440 circuits when I don't even agree with the position that you're espousing you know so it's not really
00:47:47.500 fair for him to um you know it's it's either so I'm either either a concern bro on the show you
00:47:55.360 know designated concern bro uh so now I have voiced my dissent so now I'm I'm not you know
00:48:00.200 getting dragged you know when you get dragged on the internet i'm not getting dragged for an opinion
00:48:04.060 that i don't even hold uh but then i'm a concerned bro and i'm kind of dragging back the show and it
00:48:09.500 becomes more of a debate and less of like a positive vision of we think this and we're trying
00:48:14.560 to push forward towards that um and so yeah so the more we've talked about it michael has been
00:48:19.360 very gracious and helped me to see um he's basically kind of like a genie in aladdin he's
00:48:25.380 like you know free me you know yeah you have a third wish like set me free joel let me let me
00:48:31.040 just do my thing and so anyway so we love each other my wife loves his wife our families are
00:48:35.640 close all those kinds of things his oldest daughter will occasionally babysit our kids
00:48:39.220 and so um everything is my kids do piano lessons with your mom that's right my mom teaches piano
00:48:44.080 lessons with your kids so uh so everything is good uh over here there was one thing that tipped it
00:48:48.640 over the edge though that i just want to address the rumors i bought a subaru no that's not true
00:48:54.060 i did not buy a subaru yeah he's like the one thing that uh tipped it over edge you would think
00:48:58.220 it was nick fuentes in the thumbnail but it was actually the fact that he bought a subaru and we
00:49:02.680 kicked him off and i bought a tesla last week and he's just like this is going too many different 0.70
00:49:06.620 directions west is tesla i'm tesla maxing and i'm super maxing too many gay cars out there um so 0.62
00:49:12.020 anyway so that we wanted to let you guys know about that and then a lot of these things we want
00:49:16.020 to keep close to the chest uh because uh there's more specificity that we're not ready to include
00:49:22.500 at this juncture and so we're going to wait a little bit later but i'll give you kind of some
00:49:26.660 generalities of future vision for right response um we are going to continue kind of much the same
00:49:32.480 so what will the show be like starting next week um it's going to be me and wesley todd and then
00:49:38.040 occasionally we're going to be piping in different guys you guys have seen when we have people
00:49:41.080 remotely uh join and then there'll be other times where uh you guys saw when michael was out on
00:49:46.120 vacation this last week we had uh antonio uh join us antonio's a member of good standing in our
00:49:51.300 church and um and and so uh antonio kind of michael now is officially going to be transitioning out
00:49:57.640 and antonio is not a full transition in but kind of um coming coming in a little bit uh because he's
00:50:05.140 he still has other endeavors and and other um uh work responsibilities and things like that but we
00:50:10.380 are going to be moving towards uh antonio being more of kind of our our third host and so for the
00:50:17.100 remainder of this year you'll see more of him but you won't necessarily see him every episode but
00:50:21.540 you'll see more of Antonio and we think he's done a great job and has some good things to say
00:50:25.980 and then you also will see us you know probably piping in some more guests getting some more
00:50:30.320 voices outside of right response ministries and then in terms of topics and themes much the same
00:50:35.580 political cultural theological that said the new year this is what I can't really divulge at this
00:50:42.140 point, but we have massive plans for the year of our Lord, 2026. And we're going to be starting
00:50:48.080 the very first week of January. And we have secured funds, funding, and all these different
00:50:56.260 things that we need in order to do some things that I think will be shocking and surprising
00:51:03.160 for everyone. And I think incredibly exciting for everyone. So Right Response is going to be taking
00:51:09.900 it um to a whole nother level and not just you know a new studio although it actually does
00:51:14.640 involve a new studio but not just like uh we've in the past it's like we upgrade our studio you
00:51:18.980 know or we move to you know back in the day it was just me you know we moved to co-host
00:51:23.500 but this is going to be uh blow all that out of the water so it's not just a studio change and
00:51:28.880 not just maybe a new co-host um but some some big changes um big projects uh for uh for right
00:51:37.360 response. And so we're excited about that. And we will probably and we'll give more announcements as
00:51:42.680 we get closer. We still have, you know, six months, we're only halfway through this year. And this
00:51:46.740 won't be until again, the first week of January. But we probably just kind of preparing you guys
00:51:52.000 ahead of time. We're going to just keep doing what we're doing with Antonio popping in with guests,
00:51:57.040 you know, piping in remotely, and probably go all the way through November. And then we will probably
00:52:03.860 for the month of december go dark as the kids say not completely we'll probably do some reruns
00:52:09.720 maybe have a few pre-recorded episodes uh but kind of take a break for instead of just the
00:52:15.080 holidays at the end of the month um pretty much the entirety of that month to set everything in
00:52:20.960 order and then uh and then launch uh with our our brand new idea that we have our vision that we have
00:52:28.740 the first week of January in
00:52:30.460 2026. So that's
00:52:32.680 where we're at. Wes, do you have anything you want to add?
00:52:35.060 No. I mean, I can just back up
00:52:36.480 ever since... When did you first start coming to
00:52:38.540 Covenant? Would it have been
00:52:39.960 2022? It was October of 22.
00:52:43.000 Since 2022, almost immediately
00:52:44.460 you've come. We've been good friends, close friends,
00:52:46.520 not just me and you, but our wives.
00:52:48.360 We love your children and all that continues.
00:52:50.840 We love the Belches and it's been great
00:52:52.660 co-hosting with you.
00:52:54.180 Yep.
00:52:56.140 There was one question that somebody asked earlier
00:52:58.540 that I forget who it was.
00:53:00.120 They asked what part of Washington I'm from.
00:53:01.740 So I was just going to mention that.
00:53:03.360 You said you were from Spokane.
00:53:05.200 I also was born in Spokane
00:53:06.940 and went to college in Spokane,
00:53:08.320 but I didn't really grow up there.
00:53:10.300 And there's lots of love in the chat for you, Michael.
00:53:12.060 You were talking, so I'm not sure if you saw it,
00:53:13.640 but people really appreciate it.
00:53:14.940 Appreciate that very much, yeah.
00:53:15.680 Your time here.
00:53:16.560 Yeah, thanks guys.
00:53:17.820 Okay, so we have one super chat for today.
00:53:21.240 If it was just a question,
00:53:22.540 I probably wouldn't even address it
00:53:23.880 just because I have already addressed this
00:53:26.160 and this is no shade on the person who sent it.
00:53:28.440 it's philip schneider we appreciate it perfectly fair question but since he put uh put it as a
00:53:33.640 super chat we want to do our best to always answer all the super chats so he says uh joel did you
00:53:38.300 hear what nick f that's it's fuentes nick fuentes said um about you yesterday he thinks that you
00:53:44.680 are phenomenal very well spoken he said that he wants to reach out maybe do a collaboration
00:53:49.840 on a different platform um he put af that's uh nick's platform uh so maybe on his own platform
00:53:56.920 america first um which we got to bump our numbers up guys that's a four-hour podcast that's a four
00:54:02.840 yeah joel you could do it though i could do it yeah you could stop holding me back guys now
00:54:08.300 yeah um so i i appreciate the question so i'll just give kind of the same answer that i did
00:54:14.200 uh with the episode that we did i believe that episode was on monday of this week is that right
00:54:19.040 on monday of this week so we did an episode and we said um basically just saying we think nick
00:54:24.680 has been right about geopolitics in the Middle East, particularly as it pertains to Israel and
00:54:31.840 the recent conflict with Iran. And so we did a whole episode on that and we gave him, you know,
00:54:36.900 we publicly said his name. From my perspective, obviously people disagree with me. We got flack
00:54:41.940 for that. We got appreciation. We got, you know, people dissenting, you know, all across the board
00:54:47.060 per usual. But we, you know, to be fair, not exactly usual. We got the same kind of response.
00:54:53.060 we're for it we're against it but multiplied by 10 in terms of the numbers just a lot of people
00:54:57.760 a lot of eyeballs got a lot of eyeballs and so um so uh same thing that we said like in that episode
00:55:04.440 um you know my my opinion right or wrong my opinion is um i i feel like i have um there's
00:55:12.300 been times where it's it's nothing to brag about it's not because of me it's all the mercy and
00:55:16.800 grace of God. But there's been times where I've seen something a little bit ahead of the eight
00:55:22.900 ball, a little bit ahead of the curve. And, and, and, you know, then, you know, everybody changes
00:55:31.580 their tune, you know, six months later, or three years later, or whatever it may be. But, but in my
00:55:37.860 personal experience, over the course of my life, a lot of times people will eventually, they'll
00:55:42.760 strongly disagree with you at the time and even try to ruin your life and give you a lot of flack
00:55:48.680 and all those kinds of things and then eventually come around to your position but not come around
00:55:53.100 to you in terms of your person so that they'll end up holding the same position but not actually
00:55:59.520 give you credit. COVID is one of the probably the strongest examples etched in my mind for probably
00:56:05.180 the rest of my life. All of us probably have you know PTSD from all the tyranny and the insanity
00:56:10.120 of COVID. But with that, I remember having, you know, sharp disputes with people that I loved and
00:56:16.880 still love and sharp disagreements and them thinking that I was just absolutely retarded 0.88
00:56:22.340 and foolish for thinking that the church should gather during that time. And because we're in
00:56:28.280 California, it would have been, you know, technically defying orders, you know, from
00:56:32.660 Gavin Newsom and all these different things. And then eventually those people changed their
00:56:36.580 position. But this is what I've noticed is the funny thing is that people will change the
00:56:41.360 position, but still maintain that they were right to hold the opposite position previously. So
00:56:47.620 they're basically will say, I believe X, Y, and Z. I now believe A, B, and C. And A, B, and C
00:56:54.560 directly contradicts X, Y, and Z. However, I'm right now. And somehow I was also right then.
00:57:02.300 it's amazing it truly is amazing you know with covid the way you know the most common way that
00:57:07.140 people did it you'll remember this maybe you had parents who made these arguments where they'll say
00:57:11.320 well i was right to be as fearful as i was and to uh to comply with you know tyrannical orders and
00:57:18.940 to forsake the gathering of the brethren with the church and to do this and do that and to you know
00:57:23.420 to get i was right to get my seventh booster and all these things because that was the data at the
00:57:28.520 time but now we have better data and so i've actually changed my opinion but i'm right now
00:57:33.140 and i was right then uh because the science changed you know where the medical science
00:57:38.160 did not in fact change it was the political science that changed uh people finally got fed
00:57:42.820 up and as soon as they were fed up lo and behold um all of a sudden the tyranny went away and so
00:57:48.220 um that's actually my mind probably for the rest of my life and so with that uh you know we did
00:57:53.260 that episode uh with with nick um you know he wasn't on the on the show but um about nick and
00:57:59.120 really you know covering stuff in the middle east but um but giving him credit uh because i i think
00:58:05.900 that uh that it's it's worth giving someone credit it's one thing if if um there's plenty of times
00:58:11.720 where there's a hundred different voices all saying something and you kind of can pick and
00:58:16.120 choose which person you want to quote right which name you want to actually publicize and there are
00:58:21.840 good discerning wise reasons why um you know 100 people might be saying this thing that's true
00:58:27.760 and you quote these three of them and not these other 97 of them because you don't necessarily
00:58:32.860 want to boost this particular person's profile for this reason because yes they were right about
00:58:38.200 this but maybe they're really bad on this and this and this um and and so there's there's
00:58:43.240 occasions where i think it's perfectly like you don't have to uh give public credence to every
00:58:48.460 single person who took the right position on every single issue that you cover there's no there's no
00:58:54.060 rule that says you have to do that um in the case of the conflict with israel and iran um i i'm sure
00:59:01.420 you know there's nothing new under the sun i'm sure that nick was not the only one but i think
00:59:05.520 he was one of the only ones who didn't just see this coming you know a week in advance or a month
00:59:12.420 in advance. But very early on, October 8th, this is what we said in the episode, we showed
00:59:17.220 a clip where, you know, October 8th, he was saying, not that Israel actually, you know,
00:59:23.740 attacked themselves, but we're talking about Israeli intelligence, which is the most sophisticated
00:59:27.820 in the world, even arguably superior to our own. You got hang gliders, right? They're moving pretty
00:59:34.220 slow, you know, like you see them in the sky and, you know, 45 minutes later, they'll touch the
00:59:38.460 ground. And yet Israel isn't able to stop it. It seems a little bit suspicious. And then that has 0.59
00:59:44.640 been used for the last year and a half, almost a year now, as the total moral justification
00:59:51.240 for Israel to do just about anything they want to their enemies, and particularly Iran. And so then 0.53
00:59:59.380 he talked about this will be used in moral justification. There'll be this attack from
01:00:03.520 Israel to Iran, and then Iran will retaliate in this way, and then the U.S. will be involved,
01:00:08.080 and we'll drop bombs and he kind of nailed it and so anyway so that that was the show
01:00:13.400 and somebody asked me you know on that live stream from monday whether or not we would have nick come
01:00:18.740 on to the show and and i said um it depends on the topic and what we would talk about whether
01:00:23.940 or not we would collaborate you know those kinds of things uh but in general my answer is uh yes
01:00:29.140 my answer is yes that i would be willing to have a conversation um i don't like cancel culture um
01:00:35.920 i you know and that doesn't mean that i'm willing to talk to anybody about anything um but yeah i
01:00:41.580 think that uh the answer is yes and that's how we framed it so you uh sent a super chat so i wanted
01:00:47.140 to honor that and give you an answer west do you have any follow-up thoughts to that at all
01:00:51.880 no no okay uh any other super chats nathan i think that's it okay uh that's all we got for
01:00:59.400 the show uh let's enjoy the weekend we will be back on monday friday a week from today is july
01:01:06.440 4th and so that's a holiday so we're not going to be live streaming on a friday uh but we're
01:01:10.740 going to come in west and i will come in uh probably with antonio on monday and then on
01:01:15.700 wednesday we have a special guest that'll be joining us uh so we're excited about that so
01:01:19.680 thank you guys is it nick fuentes no so thank you guys for uh tuning in we appreciate all the
01:01:26.420 support and obviously uh we all greatly appreciate you michael and the way that you've served us for
01:01:31.520 about a year and a half now uh michael last year it was just the wednesday live stream so it was
01:01:35.700 one day a week wild yeah i know that table too everything feels longer everything feels longer
01:01:41.900 you know but it really has not been that long but anyway so a year and a half uh ago is when
01:01:47.280 both michael and wes joined us and it was just weekly on wednesdays just once a week uh all of
01:01:52.560 last year and then this year is the first time that we went to three times a week with all three
01:01:56.320 of us monday and wednesday and friday uh so it's been about six months of doing it three times and
01:02:02.120 then a week and then a year of doing it once but the whole time you've been great yeah i've provided
01:02:07.280 a lot of good insight and we appreciate it yeah absolutely same all right cool well thank you
01:02:11.460 guys for tuning in uh much love and we will see you lord willing on monday
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