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00:05:31.360 All right. This is one of my favorite topics. I love talking about strength and men. The Proverbs

00:05:35.880 go so far as to say the glory, in a good way, the glory of young men is their strength. They're

00:05:41.460 strong and that's a good thing. I don't know who I heard this from, but this is how I want to frame

00:05:45.300 the discussion. Men should pursue strength. Women should pursue beauty. We've said that before. So

00:05:50.140 men should pursue strength. Women pursue beauty. And both of these qualities in the early years 0.96

00:05:55.080 of life, they are the most on display. So young men at their 20s and their 30s, they're the

00:05:59.900 strongest. They recover the best. They have the most energy, aggression, ambition, all of those

00:06:04.920 things. And it's the same thing for women. Women are most physically beautiful in their early years 1.00

00:06:09.980 of life with attractiveness, all of those different things. So you have physical strength and physical 1.00

00:06:14.500 beauty, but they fade. If the goal for life was the glory of young men as their strength, and

00:06:19.860 that's all there is to attain to, all there is to look at, well, what do you do as you're 50, 60,

00:06:24.480 70? You don't recover like you used to, and you can't lift like you used to. If the goal was just

00:06:29.180 physical strength, and that was the only quality that we could describe men as, well, we'd end up,

00:06:33.840 well, as you get older, you just wouldn't be of much worth. If the worth of men is in their strength,

00:06:37.600 worth of women is their beauty. As they get old, they wouldn't have any use in society. 1.00

00:06:41.280 But someone framed it this way. They said, okay, there's that physical strength and physical beauty

00:06:44.880 at the beginning. What they're meant to translate into is a spiritual strength and a spiritual

00:06:49.920 beauty. Now, you can put this first graph on the screen. And I think this is profound because it

00:06:54.480 helps us avoid falling into a very truncated, simplistic idea of men when we say only physical

00:07:01.200 strength all right real quick is this a chart that you made this is a chart i made right from

00:07:05.640 the right from the top look here's the deal right from the top rope uh wes's chart game it's is it's

00:07:11.660 off the charts it's off his chart game is off the charts and remember uh literally the whole world

00:07:17.420 has improved because of charts all right chart saved the life seriously if anybody belittles

00:07:23.440 charts just remember uh that the reason why there is hope for the next generation right now

00:07:28.680 is because a chart saved Donald J. Trump's life.

00:07:31.780 And since then, Wes has been chart-maxing.

00:07:33.160 You have to see this.

00:07:34.260 You've got to be chart-maxing.

00:07:35.560 All right, so in this chart, I just graphed it. 0.81

00:07:39.040 You've got on the red, you see for men on the left and for women on the right,

00:07:42.480 you've got the physical strength and beauty, and it just declines.

00:07:45.380 But spiritual strength is a quality and a virtue that you'll be cultivating your entire life.

00:07:50.880 So for men, that's discipline.

00:07:52.520 That's self-control.

00:07:54.040 That's strength of character.

00:07:55.660 And that's courage.

00:07:56.400 so that physical strength is meant to give way to.

00:07:59.360 As you get older, as you mature,

00:08:01.040 as you are more sanctified into being a godly man,

00:08:03.960 you have incredible strength,

00:08:05.480 not physical grip strength or squat strength,

00:08:07.760 incredible strength of character.

00:08:09.580 That's what you pass on.

00:08:10.800 The Proverbs, when it says,

00:08:11.800 the glory of young men is their strength,

00:08:13.460 it then says the splendor of old men is their gray hair.

00:08:16.340 It's their wisdom.

00:08:17.340 It's their character.

00:08:18.220 It's all that they have to pass on.

00:08:20.260 We're not talking about women as much in this episode, 0.95

00:08:21.800 but it's the same for women. 1.00

00:08:23.360 Women will cultivate as they mature, 1.00

00:08:24.920 are not physical beauty, but spiritual beauty, the beauty of the soul. They're warm, they're 0.99

00:08:29.680 inviting, they're patient, they're charitable, they're delightful to be around. And so as you

00:08:33.900 think about men and the physical strength, all that to say, some men just won't be. I've come

00:08:39.000 to realize this when I was younger, I didn't think of these categories. Just some men won't

00:08:42.360 necessarily have that high level of physical strength. The Apostle Paul and the Apostle John,

00:08:47.340 like I just, they just, they didn't have Planet Fitness memberships at the end of the day. And if

00:08:51.600 We're so simple as to kind of think of only those categories of physical achievement,

00:08:57.180 of endurance, and all of that.

00:08:58.740 We're just going to miss, God has designed masculinity, manliness, to have a little bit

00:09:03.580 of variety to it.

00:09:04.680 Now, there's Paul, there's John, there's also David, and there's also Joshua, and there's

00:09:09.920 also Christ.

00:09:10.680 Men of war, strong, and that's awesome.

00:09:13.480 But at the end of the day, there'll be men that can't be strong for some reason.

00:09:15.980 There'll also be women that are not as beautiful in their youth.

00:09:18.700 So those aren't meant to be the enduring only mark, masculinity, femininity.

00:09:23.880 Now, they are good, and they are virtues in early life to have, but they are intended

00:09:27.900 to give way to those virtues later on.

00:09:30.360 That's a good point.

00:09:31.080 So beauty for women, strength for men are not the exclusive mark of femininity and masculinity,

00:09:37.820 and they're certainly not the enduring mark.

00:09:40.660 So not exclusive and not enduring.

00:09:42.580 But they are, we could argue, they are the initial mark, and they're also the most natural

00:09:48.560 mark. And I think the point that Wes is making is a good point, is that by virtue of these things

00:09:54.420 coming first in life, coming early in life, in youth, and coming most naturally, it's one of

00:10:01.560 God's way. If it's natural, then it's something that He made, He designed. It's a part of the

00:10:07.100 natural order. And nature is the second book. We have special revelation, but we also have natural

00:10:12.860 revelation. That's one of the ways that God speaks to us. So, the fact that beauty for women

00:10:18.240 comes early and comes naturally, and strength for men comes early and comes naturally, in a sense,

00:10:24.060 it's not that they're the exclusive marks of being a man and being a woman, or the enduring marks,

00:10:29.620 but they're the initial and natural marks, and they're meant to signify. It's like God's flare,

00:10:36.980 you know, shooting up. It's God's signal, His message to us that sets the course of what to

00:10:42.100 pursue in the spiritual realm. Men, you are by nature physically strong early in life. And then

00:10:49.360 that's God cuing us in to pursue spiritual strength, to pursue that direction in the

00:10:57.460 spiritual realm. Women, you are beautiful by nature, early and naturally. And that's God 0.73

00:11:04.040 cuing you in, directing you of what direction to pursue in the spiritual category. And for women, 0.98

00:11:11.660 And spiritually speaking, we're going to focus on men today, but just to get it out right

00:11:15.360 here at the beginning, 1 Peter addresses this.

00:11:18.900 1 Peter, I believe it's chapter 3, that says that women should be beautiful in the sight

00:11:24.280 of God with an imperishable beauty.

00:11:26.920 So beauty is fading, right?

00:11:28.480 Beauty is fading.

00:11:29.400 Charm is deceptive.

00:11:30.320 Beauty is fading. 1.00

00:11:30.920 But a woman who fears the Lord is to be praised.

00:11:33.400 And so we're not saying that these are enduring, and we're not saying they're exclusive qualities, 0.68

00:11:36.940 but they're natural and initial, and they set the course of what direction to pursue in the

00:11:41.840 spiritual regard. And so for women, it is beauty. It's a lifelong pursuit of beauty. It's not always 0.97

00:11:47.480 going to be physical at the same degree and the same ways that it was when you were 30.

00:11:53.500 It's not going to be the same when you're 70, but it is still going to be beauty. That's the path

00:11:59.720 that you're going to pursue. And so then it's, well, what is enduring, imperishable beauty look

00:12:05.140 like for a woman. And God is incredibly, exceedingly kind and merciful. He spells it out

00:12:10.540 with immense clarity in 1 Peter and says that the imperishable beauty of the heart, not just skin

00:12:17.800 deep, but this internal, so now we're talking not external and perishable, but internal and

00:12:23.660 imperishable, that kind of beauty in the sight of God, an internal imperishable beauty is defined

00:12:29.920 by two primary characteristics, a gentle and quiet spirit. And so what is it that a woman is 0.85

00:12:36.560 pursuing? She's pursuing gentleness, and she's pursuing a quiet spirit. She's not pursuing 0.98

00:12:43.700 being aggressive, B-E, aggressive, B-E. No, that is not her pursuit. Her pursuit is not to take

00:12:52.100 down the libs in the public square. Her pursuit is not winning all the debates. Here's something 1.00

00:13:02.680 that we've talked about, Michael and I, as we've talked about classical education and what we want

00:13:07.740 that to look like for our children, should it be the same for men and boys? I think of C.S. Lewis

00:13:15.920 at the very beginning of, I believe it's The Silver Chair. It's Jill Pohl and Eustace. And

00:13:23.580 it's like the first few pages where they're going to this school. He calls it the experiment house

00:13:28.800 or the experiment school. And of course, your headmaster is a woman and he's saying that she's

00:13:39.300 terrible you know and that checks out um and and and the part of the experiment is that they are

00:13:45.920 educating boys and girls together and so and c.s lewis is mocking this and saying this um this

00:13:52.140 novel modern you know um drivel of you know boys and girls going to the same school with a female

00:13:59.600 headmaster this is um this is insane and and so i think about that like even with you know as 0.65

00:14:05.260 there's been a resurgence of classical Christian education. Do we want, for instance, in the realm

00:14:12.860 of debate, rhetoric, do we want to train girls, 16-, 17-year-old girls, to take down their

00:14:23.780 opponents with facts and logic on a public platform as there's an audience and everybody's

00:14:28.540 watching? I don't think we do. I don't think that we want girls to be wise.

00:14:35.100 we want them to be intelligent, we want them to be learned, but do we want them to engage 1.00

00:14:40.880 in polemics? Do we want a woman to be publicly polemical? I don't think so. I think that we 1.00

00:14:51.140 would prefer to see men do that. The last thing I'll say on this, and I want to be careful because

00:14:56.880 I am grateful in the providence of God, he has used women, and I'm grateful because right now,

00:15:02.340 desperate times call for desperate measures. Things have gotten way off the rails, and there 0.67

00:15:07.800 have been some courageous women who have helped. But I'll just, I'll say it like this. I really

00:15:15.240 loved Shepherds for Sale the first time I read it, when it was written by John Harris.

00:15:21.740 By Meg Basham.

00:15:23.080 And I think it's a shame, I think it's a shame that, and I'm not trying to disparage Meg,

00:15:28.940 appreciate what she's done. But I think it's a shame that John Harris didn't get more credit

00:15:34.960 for his book when he wrote it. We currently live in a world where even the conservatives,

00:15:40.120 if the conservatives want to make a point, they put forward a woman. And if they want to make a 0.97

00:15:44.900 point about race, they put forward a black guy. And I've said this before, and I'm going to keep 1.00

00:15:49.640 saying it until conservatives can actually be conservative. If a white male has the goods,

00:15:57.000 he's got the goods he's got the and john harris had the goods he kept all the receipts and meg

00:16:02.000 basham to her credit she acknowledged publicly acknowledged john because when she was writing

00:16:07.400 her book she was reaching out to john harris you know left and right because john harris had the

00:16:12.520 receipts but my point is um i'm grateful for what she did i i don't want to disparage her um but how

00:16:18.700 come how come john didn't get as much notoriety um it's because conservatives aren't conservative

00:16:26.220 we're just we're not and so all that back to my primary point is um yes we we want women to go to

00:16:32.940 school um but but as they're being trained um do they need to be trained in the direction of um 1.00

00:16:40.520 aggressive polemical fighting you know taking down the libs with facts and logic or is that

00:16:47.460 something that is inherently masculine. And so that's, that's my point is that God sets the

00:16:53.140 course. You're right, Wes. God sets the course initially and naturally for men by giving them

00:16:59.120 physical strength with women by giving them physical beauty. And then that is God's indicator

00:17:03.640 should be God's indicator to us of what then to pursue with a lifelong pursuit in the spiritual

00:17:10.200 realm, men pursuing spiritual strength, women pursuing spiritual beauty. And in the case of

00:17:15.260 women pursuing spiritual, imperishable, internal beauty of the heart, God spelled, he literally 0.83

00:17:21.060 spells that out for women, saying that it is the quintessential marks of that spiritual feminine

00:17:28.500 beauty is ambition. No, it's quietness and gentleness. So, Michael? Yeah, the other thing 0.65

00:17:38.100 with John, and this is not to dismiss what you said, Joel, but part of it, too, is that Megan

00:17:41.920 worked for the Daily Wire and had inroads into the established conservative community.

00:17:46.980 And all I would say to that is, maybe I should just leave it.

00:17:52.300 Okay. I was going to say about your chart, Wes, the other thing that that chart helps us with

00:17:56.540 is we are going to be prioritizing and commending strength and health, right? So

00:18:05.180 that's the thrust of this episode. But there is, I know there's the concern,

00:18:10.520 the concern bros who say, well, if you focus on strength, then that's just worldly, that just

00:18:17.340 leads to tyranny, that just leads to toxic masculinity. And the thing about that chart is

00:18:23.340 that we know if a Christian man's strength has been virtuous strength, if it leads him to that

00:18:33.200 increase of spiritual strength as the two decline and then cross, and then the spiritual strength

00:18:38.700 increases. Like, God has given the Christian man and the Christian woman an indicator of whether

00:18:45.000 they were exercising the natural virtues of strength and beauty properly, and that is if

00:18:49.920 they lead into spiritual strength and spiritual beauty properly. And I think it's just—it's

00:18:56.220 really a beautiful picture that God has given. And you can look at a man's life. We're so

00:19:00.000 short-sighted. We think, well, that guy worked out for, you know, this long for half a year,

00:19:05.840 So he's going to be, you know, beating his wife and kids.

00:19:08.720 Well, no, we actually, we evaluate people over their lifespan.

00:19:13.060 Right.

00:19:13.280 And so you look at a man who disciplines himself in his youth for strength and for virtue,

00:19:18.120 and then you see, oh, lo and behold, he's a spiritually strong and resolute man in his

00:19:24.200 age.

00:19:24.720 And that's how you know if that man was pursuing virtue and strength in the proper way in his

00:19:30.580 youth.

00:19:31.460 That's a good point.

00:19:32.780 All right.

00:19:33.560 So if you asked me a couple of years ago then.

00:19:35.340 All right, I'm a man, and I just, it sounds a little pop, a little clickbaity, but I just

00:19:41.780 want to be happy, healthy, and flourishing.

00:19:44.360 A couple years ago, my advice would have been like, well, it would be physical strength.

00:19:47.340 It would be the gym, this side or the other.

00:19:49.100 But as I've gotten older, what I've come to realize is that what's more important than 0.60

00:19:53.660 cultivating physical strength and health necessarily, men have to win. 0.98

00:19:57.840 If you take one idea away from this episode, if you remember one thing, let it be in this 0.88

00:20:01.540 first segment that you as a man, you have to win somewhere. Testosterone is the molecule that makes

00:20:08.320 men, men. It gives them, it doesn't just give them like their strength and recovery. So your

00:20:12.400 strength and recovery is better if you have higher testosterone. It also gives them their ambition.

00:20:16.300 It gives them risk taking. So men that have lower testosterone take less risks. It's not just purely 0.53

00:20:21.680 a molecule that helps them lift heavy weights and puts them down. It gives you focus. It gives you

00:20:26.180 drive. It gives you libido. It gives you energy. It gives you ambition, aggression, everything that

00:20:30.640 makes men men is tied up in testosterone. The same thing for estrogen for women. So when it 0.59

00:20:36.420 comes to testosterone, again, you can have higher or lower. And it's not just genetic and it's not

00:20:41.020 just diet or everything like that. Men winning gets them higher testosterone. I'm going to read

00:20:46.220 a study here. This is from 1992 in the journal Hormones and Behavior. Winning, losing mood and

00:20:52.920 testosterone. I'm just going to read. You can see the DOI down there. So you want to look at the

00:20:56.620 full article. This is from the abstract. This is a summary of what they found. So they did two

00:21:01.020 experiments. In two experiments, male college students either won or lost $5 on a task controlled

00:21:06.860 entirely by chance. So this isn't even, I'm putting skill, I'm putting training, I'm putting energy in.

00:21:12.120 Task controlled entirely by chance. After the task was completed, winners exhibited significantly

00:21:17.120 higher testosterone levels than losers. Levels of cortisol, hormone associated with stress and

00:21:22.800 arousal did not differ among the groups, suggesting that a hormone behavior response pattern for

00:21:26.900 winning and losing is specific to testosterone. These data suggest that winning can alter

00:21:32.140 testosterone levels in men, and that mood may mediate such changes. This research is played

00:21:37.240 out. You look at dopamine studies of actually lobsters. Jordan Peterson's written a lot on that.

00:21:41.500 And the key idea is that men are meant to take dominion, and you have to take dominion somewhere.

00:21:46.680 If you worked a dead-end job, and you worked it for a nagging woman who was a manager, 0.90

00:21:51.260 so you hate life there. You're not doing anything productive. And you come home and you're in a home 0.99

00:21:55.480 where your wife and kids don't respect you. And then you do a hobby that's forgettable like video

00:21:59.980 games you're not very good at. And you repeat that cycle for years and years and years. You lose at

00:22:04.600 work. You lose at home. You lose in your hobby. You have no ambition. You don't take dominion,

00:22:08.580 control, anything, anywhere. You are going to be miserable, unmotivated, undriven, and forgettable. 0.99

00:22:15.880 that is just a fact of life.

00:22:18.580 God created men to take dominion.

00:22:21.100 As they conquer, as they win, 0.78

00:22:22.960 some men, you're not going to win everywhere.

00:22:24.860 You live in a small town,

00:22:26.580 just the job you inherited,

00:22:28.000 it provides your family.

00:22:29.400 Okay, maybe you don't do something

00:22:30.480 necessarily important in your job.

00:22:32.160 But then in personal life,

00:22:33.480 is your family run well?

00:22:35.440 You're having kids that love you.

00:22:36.740 You're doing once a year,

00:22:38.040 something backpacking, ambitious, travel.

00:22:40.440 Are you starting a side hustle?

00:22:41.960 You have to win somewhere to be a man.

00:22:45.440 I think that's part of the reason why guys do play video games.

00:22:50.320 I don't, but I am sympathetic to guys who do. 0.95

00:22:54.800 I think obviously you can play too many video games and be an utter loser,

00:22:58.960 but I think part of the reason they do it is because they're losing so much in real life

00:23:03.820 that they want to win somewhere, right?

00:23:06.380 And so because their real life is they're working for the cackling hens 0.94

00:23:11.640 in the HR department at their woke company. 0.96

00:23:14.220 that you know that makes the charts yeah so then they come home yeah and so then they come home

00:23:19.500 and they're doing something you know even though it's virtual you know something with swords you

00:23:23.660 know and fighting dragons and right that like they're trying to find some place where they can

00:23:27.860 win in a world that um that has made it very difficult for men to win question wes um because

00:23:36.100 and it might be the case so so set me right if it is if i'm wrong but what i would hear some guys

00:23:43.280 or what I would think some guys would hear

00:23:45.140 from what you just said

00:23:45.840 is I have to be actually winning

00:23:48.080 some sort of physical or mental contest against men.

00:23:51.180 And I'm wondering if you think like,

00:23:53.820 even I'm gonna set out to climb that mountain, right?

00:23:57.220 And achieving something.

00:23:58.560 Is that tangential?

00:23:59.900 Is that related?

00:24:00.560 Is that the same sort of like I'm winning a goal

00:24:02.980 or I had an accomplished or a task

00:24:05.500 that I was going to learn woodworking

00:24:07.680 and now I've made a bed for me and my wife

00:24:10.300 and like that sense of accomplishment.

00:24:11.820 mean i've like are those related are they different do you think i regret to inform you it is some

00:24:16.540 level of competition against others because men sort well into hierarchies so if you had a team

00:24:21.720 like a sports team or whatever um men would self-select and they recognize who's team captain

00:24:26.520 men do this really well it's one thing that women don't do well but men do well and so there is a

00:24:31.200 certain level like i'm trying to lift this much if you just did it and your goal was like i'm only

00:24:35.740 going to be well actually be competing against yourself but if it was really just kind of like

00:24:39.540 I'm just going to do this. Nobody else knows. Nobody else cares. It's actually tougher to

00:24:42.780 motivate yourself than if you were to compete against others to say, I want to do better than

00:24:47.860 this person at work. I want to lift more. I want to be better at this, better at that. Typically,

00:24:53.600 it is comparative against other men. Men recognize you're not putting them down. If you train and

00:24:59.440 you run faster or do a MRF quick or whatever, it's not necessarily putting them down, but it's

00:25:04.180 how men kind of recognize, yeah, he put in the work. He's a champion. He's disciplined. Continue.

00:25:09.160 Well, I was just, Scottie Pippen was never going to be Michael Jordan, right?

00:25:13.840 But that didn't mean, I would imagine, that his satisfaction in being the right-hand man to Michael Jordan would have been incredibly motivating to him.

00:25:27.640 David and Jonathan.

00:25:28.700 Yep.

00:25:29.320 At the end of the day, David's going to hold the throne.

00:25:32.980 And that's the thing, is men that are mature, they can say, man, I see what my CEO does.

00:25:37.160 I can't do that.

00:25:37.940 but man if i'm not a good operations it's it's one like there is what you're saying michael i

00:25:44.080 think like some level of contentment of just being on the team and maybe you're a second you know a

00:25:48.540 third uh but it's also i think like um self not just um recognizing hierarchy um instinctively

00:25:55.760 but also uh self um self uh selecting and and uh categorizing that like like because of that drive

00:26:04.360 towards competition what i think men instinctively do is they'll see someone who's better than them

00:26:09.420 and um and at one level it'll that sense of competition will rise up within them and so it'll

00:26:14.920 spur them on to try uh harder so that they can um beat their opponent and be better um on the other

00:26:21.540 hand though if if it becomes clear and it usually becomes for many men clear early on they're able

00:26:26.440 to to self-select early um okay i'm never going to beat him in this well then they'll quickly

00:26:31.820 Instead of wasting a life, you know, a lifetime on mediocrity in one field, they'll, they'll go ahead and move to something else where they can be great, because men want to be great, they want to be great at something. Whereas, you know, like the alternative to that would be just being content to be mediocre. And so, you know, so everybody's kind of doing the same thing. And there's, you know, and, and obviously, not everybody can be the best, certainly not at the same thing in the same category.

00:27:00.540 so then the vast majority of men would have to settle for being second-rate. But the beauty of

00:27:06.680 the world that God designed is that it's a multifaceted world. And so, not every man can win 0.97

00:27:13.840 in one category. But, you know, barring, obviously, there are, you know, some exceptions,

00:27:21.300 and, you know, like with certain, you know, diseases, or, you know, like there are always

00:27:26.660 exceptions. Well, you know, I'm a quadriplegic, and I'm listening to this, and I don't feel like

00:27:30.240 you were sympathetic. And look, we understand there are exceptions, but I'm saying in a general

00:27:35.280 sense, God has so designed the world to have so many distinctions and to be so multifaceted.

00:27:42.400 And he has also created people to have a variety and to have distinctions and differences.

00:27:49.260 And because of God's good and wise design, the majority of men can win somewhere. They can't

00:27:56.540 everywhere but they can win somewhere so it's finding that place finding early in life you know

00:28:02.080 better sooner than later but as early as possible um being able to to identify where it is that you

00:28:08.800 fit and where you thrive and where what you're best suited for um and then and then pursuing that

00:28:14.400 with everything you have to be the very best of that um and you know and so i i won't be able to

00:28:19.720 compete with so and so on on this field um on this plane but but i can do this thing over here

00:28:26.380 yeah absolutely and uh the things that we use we mentioned video games but tv is another big one

00:28:32.940 social media especially an infinite scroll feature where you can scroll to your heart's content

00:28:37.240 uh those give little bits of dopamine so you can imagine someone that's starving what they really

00:28:41.840 want is dinner but there's kind of a breadcrumb trail of crackers right like it's food it's

00:28:46.460 something what i really wanted what i really needed was a big meal but it gives little bits

00:28:50.840 of dopamine and you'll get like fake achievements like you'll get it'll be a mobile game it will be

00:28:55.520 I watch a TV show and vicariously through the character in that I get the dopamine the enjoyment

00:29:01.200 of watching someone conquer and do that and there are millions and millions of men even Christian

00:29:05.480 men and that's all the satisfaction all the victory they get they watch TV they watch movies

00:29:10.780 it's the bug man hooked up he scrolls infinitely he never challenges himself never expands outside

00:29:16.260 of his comfort zone never takes risks and then he gets to the end of his life and it's just

00:29:21.200 there's not much to show for it he didn't win it much and then his kids look and they're like

00:29:25.480 don't really want to be like dad dad never tried to do anything different dad never tried to leave

00:29:29.160 his job dad never tried to get anything for us and instead of you leading and demonstrating that and

00:29:34.440 kids being like man grandpa he was awesome you've robbed them of teaching them that instructing them

00:29:41.000 that cultivating a good work ethic and so don't settle for the crumbs the little bits the iv drip

00:29:47.960 of dopamine but do the hard work that has the payoff of literally biologically testosterone

00:29:53.640 dopamine, drive, ambition, etc. All right, we'll go to our first commercial break and we come back

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00:32:34.140 all right uh jonathan johnson was like literally working out right now love it

00:32:48.300 and so we're gonna talk about muscle mass so we gave all our caveats in the beginning at the end

00:32:53.340 of the day it's not literally about you have to physically be able to bench 225 although it is

00:32:58.240 good. But the way God has made the world, again, not in every case, at the end of the day, having

00:33:04.220 muscle mass as a man is going to be better for your health, better for your body, better for

00:33:08.300 your longevity. We'll play a clip here from a Sean Ryan show. Just very briefly set the stage

00:33:13.240 for what we're about to talk about. It's coming. So sitting is the new smoking. Sedentary lifestyle

00:33:20.960 is now the leading cause of all cause mortality. Wow. The leading cause? It is the leading cause

00:33:27.040 of all-cause mortality, meaning the greatest impact on the total number of deaths, what's

00:33:34.400 called a modifiable risk factor, is sedentary lifestyle. I have a saying that aging is the

00:33:39.440 aggressive pursuit of comfort. And most of us are aggressively pursuing comfort. We are accelerating

00:33:45.320 the rate at which we age. We have to stop thinking about stress as being a negative, right? Stress can

00:33:51.240 be very good for us. If you don't actually load your bones, they will not strengthen. I don't care

00:33:55.940 much calcium you take if you don't actually tear a muscle it won't grow if you don't challenge the

00:34:00.660 immune system it will weaken the worst thing that came out of the pandemic second maybe only to the

00:34:06.180 vaccine itself and we can talk about that but um was residential quarantining massing and social

00:34:11.620 distancing you took human being beings out of contact with other human beings so what happens

00:34:16.020 when that occurs the immune system weakens right the body's very efficient if you stop using

00:34:21.860 something it will forget about it all right you put it all right so that was the episode with gary

00:34:28.260 brecca if you don't watch the full thing that's the sean ryan show episode 163 with gary brecca

00:34:33.620 but he just brings up the point muscle mass at the end of the day it is something necessary at

00:34:39.300 some level that's how god has made men and i want to tie this quickly to depression now with

00:34:43.460 depression there are some cases so i'm gonna i would go out on a limb and say i could cure 90

00:34:48.420 of depression cases with a gym membership with some sunlight some outdoor activity and hard work

00:34:53.860 they can also cure about 90 percent of liberal uh politic cases the same way like seriously like

00:35:00.180 you know it's you you try to persuade and convince people through facts and logic and all the you

00:35:04.580 know it's like uh facts don't care about your feelings well feelings also tend to not care 0.99

00:35:08.900 about your facts but you get somebody who's a libtard and um and you just raise their testosterone 0.96

00:35:14.660 level it's like we weren't even talking about politics we weren't talking about any of these 0.99

00:35:17.700 these things all we were doing is uh raising your testosterone level by doing some exercises and

00:35:22.420 doing this and you know putting in some good habits and good diet and then lo and behold um

00:35:27.520 they start you know voting republican instead of democrat so what what changed um well you

00:35:32.800 became a man they broke a sweat they got some sunlight they touched grass and they're normal

00:35:38.480 again uh so i think a lot of depression can be cured by that there is some depression however

00:35:43.680 and there are men that have gone out and they've been active engaged and they do have chronic

00:35:48.340 lifelong depression probably spiritual nature so i talk about depression talk about all of these

00:35:52.940 different things but i recognize this is not truly something one size fits all uh so this is i'm going

00:35:58.260 to pull up the the second quote here this is from a meta-analysis meta-analysis is not just a single

00:36:02.720 study someone goes out they do a study with 100 people they come back and say this is what helped

00:36:06.180 it this is actually taking the average effect size from multiple studies often across decades so this

00:36:11.500 is a meta-analysis, a study of studies on the effects of muscular strength and depressive

00:36:17.460 symptoms. So this is from 2020, the effect of muscular strength and depression symptoms in

00:36:21.840 adult. A total of 21 studies were included in the review, totaling 87,000 adults aged 18 years from

00:36:27.960 26 different countries. A lot, a lot, a lot of people. The systematic review findings suggest

00:36:33.140 that muscular strength had a positive effect on reducing depression symptoms. Meta-analysis

00:36:38.100 findings indicate that MS, muscular strength, is inversely and significantly related to depressive

00:36:44.620 symptoms. And so you have right there the confidence interface association. Interventions

00:36:48.520 aiming to improve muscular strength have the potential to promote mental health and prevent

00:36:52.640 depression. This is all over the literature. You have to understand God made men specifically

00:36:58.240 that at the end of the day, strength is going to help keep them from depression, weakness,

00:37:04.260 and just a lack of loving life, a lack of vigor, a lack of vitality, a lack of ambition.

00:37:10.100 And so there will be men, they have less muscular strength, they're not depressed.

00:37:13.580 We're not saying, of course, every single one.

00:37:15.340 But the idea is, at the end of the day, that does show there is a relationship,

00:37:19.560 that if you're experiencing this, it could be fixed by.

00:37:23.560 That's not a coincidence.

00:37:24.680 It's not like, well, God could have made it one or the other. 0.58

00:37:27.100 Could have been men preaching, could have been women preaching, flip a coin. 0.75

00:37:29.860 No, it's designed that way. 0.94

00:37:31.420 God made the world and he said, this is what's going to be necessary for men to flourish and

00:37:36.180 thrive. All right. I want to tie this to, to all cause mortality. So all cause mortality is not

00:37:42.600 just like mortality from cancer or accidents, this that or the other. This is mortality across

00:37:47.200 every single category of deaths. So same thing. This is another meta analysis. This one from

00:37:53.540 2023, a study of 12,000 deaths among 81,000 participants with three to 14 years of follow-up.

00:38:01.640 So looking at 12,000 people that died out of 80,000, what was true of them? What patterns

00:38:06.720 can we pull out? Subgroup analysis showed that low skeletal muscle mass index, so low amounts

00:38:12.160 of muscle that was attached to your frame, was significantly associated with an increased risk

00:38:18.000 of all-cause mortality in studies with a body mass index between 18 to 25. So 18 to 25 is kind

00:38:24.260 of the average weight. It's around 200 pounds, depending on your height. So for guys in there

00:38:28.620 especially, all-cause mortality was much lower the greater muscle mass you have. This means you

00:38:34.840 survived accidents better. This means cancer, if you underwent chemotherapy, you had more muscle

00:38:39.520 mass that the chemo was able to hit and to target before you ultimately wasted away. So muscle mass,

00:38:46.280 all cause mortality. Same thing 25 to 30 and over 30. The statistical association strength gets a

00:38:52.280 little bit less as it goes up. But the main idea is still holds through. Same thing with depression.

00:38:57.160 Same thing with all cause mortality. Men have to do something. They've got to walk. They've got to

00:39:02.140 work with their hands, work the garden and model it too. So I love working out. One of the big

00:39:07.180 reasons is my dad taught me how to do it. He was the one that we were always going on hikes. We

00:39:11.420 were always climbing trees. We were always outside doing something. So even if it's for yourself,

00:39:16.280 like, man, I recognize that I want to live long. I recognize I want to be healthy. Wes,

00:39:20.080 recognize I want to be vigorous, but it's tough. Don't just do it for you. Do it for your children

00:39:24.980 and your grandchildren that are going to see that and go, oh, I know how to work out and I know how

00:39:28.820 to hike. And I feel confident enough doing that because dad showed me how to. Yep. Anything to

00:39:34.700 add? The only thing that I want to add is, and I know it's random, but Wes, you're about 10 years

00:39:41.600 younger than me and physically you could probably beat me in just about every category except

00:39:46.520 don't say i think i think that we uh we should record this and literally just show it in an

00:39:53.620 episode michael could record it but i think i could beat you in tree climbing as a 38 year old

00:39:59.560 grown man um and i know it's ridiculous i mean but i think were you there when we were camping

00:40:06.540 were you on that camping trip and i just and i scaled that monkey mode i remember connor my

00:40:11.120 brother-in-law he was like what yeah what because he was climbing at first and kind of like just

00:40:15.380 slowly going up the limbs and i was just sitting there kind of watching i was like that's cute you

00:40:19.740 know i remember my sister you know a very good uh wifely instinct she was like all right now you

00:40:26.620 should uh race connor because connor's like a marathon yeah because she knew she instinctively 0.97

00:40:32.200 knew what wes has been uh advocating this whole episode she was like connor needs he just got

00:40:36.900 whooped in tree con and he needs to win at something so now you guys go run yeah because

00:40:40.560 he would definitely beat me in that category i thought you were about to say chess we played a

00:40:43.460 good amount of chess you have never beat me in chess it's not close it's not like he wins some

00:40:47.680 and i almost win others it's just brian uh whenever i go visit ogden um brian silvey you

00:40:56.060 know i'll just randomly uh pop into his office and sit down and play him in chess and um

00:41:00.880 he's he's pretty good he beats me um that said though i always beat him

00:41:08.320 um while we're playing chess not in chess but in my mind there's another game that he's not even

00:41:14.840 aware of another competition it's the competition of uh of who has the most nicotine passes

00:41:20.240 while playing this game with the most pouches in exactly so here's the point you gotta just you

00:41:27.880 gotta be able to win at something yep you gotta be able to win at something yeah um the thing i

00:41:33.040 was going to add and i'm i'm um a culprit of this is some of what we're talking about so i i did a

00:41:40.340 little bit of research as as to what the church has said about this topic historically and we do

00:41:46.840 have to admit that the church has not said a lot about this historically um like there were even

00:41:52.860 times right in the early church uh the patristic era where even physical fitness and and bodily

00:42:00.520 discipline was somewhat denigrated. You know, you've got like the desert monks and things like

00:42:04.940 that going on. But the church has not often said very strong and very positive things

00:42:13.920 about manly strength. And I think we just have to recognize that my theory is one of the reasons

00:42:20.640 for that is this has not been a problem for a lot of history. Most men worked a job that at least

00:42:28.720 kept them mobile and active you know um this is something that is is one of the things that

00:42:34.440 is related to the time that we live in and so it's not that we're going against what the church has

00:42:40.460 said obviously we would all agree that paul said bodily discipline is of some value but godliness

00:42:46.020 is of great gain right none of us are going to disagree with that but also we live in a time

00:42:51.160 that is unique in history where most people sit for their jobs and even the people that don't sit

00:42:56.600 for their jobs. They drive to their work. You know, if you're working at a factory, you're still

00:43:00.580 driving to work, and then you're working at the factory. Right. We're living in a culture today,

00:43:04.620 and sadly, a lot of the culture is actually not like this. So if I'm to be a little bit more

00:43:08.780 specific, we're living in a Christian church culture today that would take the words of Paul 0.92

00:43:14.520 and actually twist and pervert the scripture. He says that physical training is of some value.

00:43:20.460 The church often either outright explicitly says, I've heard guys explicitly say this, guys in the Reformed world, or they at least implicitly communicate it, but they essentially convey that physical training is of no value.

00:43:36.820 and we're talking about during a period of time historically right when um when you cannot depend

00:43:42.780 on um the physical training that would come naturally by uh your you know assumed manual

00:43:49.220 labor position uh so you're talking about a time where um like the uh what was that movie

00:43:55.060 wally yeah oh yeah it's all the you know all the people are obese and overweight and they're

00:44:01.780 sitting in there, you know, floating motorized chairs. And, um, we're living in, in that kind

00:44:06.760 of era where because of technology and advancements and innovation, all these kinds of things,

00:44:11.480 um, you don't have to be by necessity, physically active. And so, um, and so what happens is that

00:44:19.260 we're killing ourselves. And I think the culture is recognizing this, the broader culture, um,

00:44:24.340 and, and making some healthy adjustments and even at a national political level with RFK Jr.

00:44:30.480 and these kinds of things. 0.99

00:44:32.780 But per usual, the church sucks 0.99

00:44:36.500 and is last to the game. 0.99

00:44:39.260 I think the church will probably really care

00:44:41.680 and be doing podcasts like we're doing right now

00:44:44.100 10 years from now.

00:44:46.020 Right.

00:44:46.600 Right? 1.00

00:44:46.840 Like the church will put the woke away 0.98

00:44:48.640 10 years from now.

00:44:50.440 The church will say that men should be physically strong,

00:44:52.920 especially young men, 10 years from now.

00:44:57.120 In a nutshell, if you're wondering,

00:44:58.500 what is Right Response Ministries about?

00:45:00.480 in a nutshell i'll tell you what it's about um what we're trying to do is uncover what the bible

00:45:06.400 actually says and apply it in relevant applicable ways for our time our place and to do it um and

00:45:15.520 maybe actually do it before the culture right to actually beat the culture for once for once

00:45:22.000 the church has been following the culture for decades or at least part of the conversation

00:45:25.920 while it's happening yes and and like guys will be like well yeah but you're leading people astray

00:45:30.680 and what they don't realize and we've used this analogy a million times the rubber band you know

00:45:35.020 it's been overstretched and then eventually it inevitably will snap back um there is nature is

00:45:41.180 healing you know as the kids say nature is healing uh there is an inevitable snap back and it's not

00:45:46.160 just something that will happen it's something that's happening right now it's happening and

00:45:50.280 was snapping back into God's natural order, there's a return to nationalism over globalism,

00:45:56.880 a return to patriarchy over feminism, a return to a hierarchy over egalitarianism, and all these

00:46:03.260 ways that the rubber band is snapping back. And if the church is still just holding the line

00:46:11.320 with enshrining the victories of 10 years ago, then what will happen is the church

00:46:20.240 will be over here saying, nationalism is bad. You know, the last guy who was a nationalist,

00:46:24.660 you know, like also, you know, he drank water. So you probably shouldn't drink water either.

00:46:29.640 You know, patriarchy is bad. It's degrading. It's misogynistic, you know. And so if the church is

00:46:36.100 doing that, but the broader culture is snapping back, what will happen is that as there's this

00:46:41.580 inevitable snapback that we're witnessing in real time, I mean, the Overton window is shifting at

00:46:46.120 the speed of light. And as that happens, people will realize that feminism was a psyop, that it's 1.00

00:46:52.940 a joke. And they'll snap back into God's natural design of patriarchy. But all the Christians, 1.00

00:47:00.220 the church, because it's always lagging behind, will be over here saying, patriarchy is bad.

00:47:05.500 Well, why? Because my wife told me. Well, the elders of our church don't agree with patriarchy.

00:47:11.360 why well because their wives told them you know and and so then what will happen is the culture

00:47:16.220 will snap back to patriarchy but but the question is it's not whether but which there will be a

00:47:21.660 return to patriarchy the question is which patriarchy it'll either be a pagan patriarchy

00:47:27.680 it'll be islamic patriot like andrew tate he went to patriarchy right because there was no christians

00:47:34.320 in that space to be found uh he knew he needed something tried and true and old something um

00:47:41.340 religious he realized okay secularism atheism is gay right because he's masculine i'm not saying 0.94

00:47:47.380 he's holy the dude's the dude's a pervert he's a sinner but he is masculine naturally masculine 0.96

00:47:53.940 and young men love him for that they love the ambition the competition the drive and so when 0.96

00:47:59.480 he when his his natural propensity masculine propensity snapped him back into patriarch he

00:48:05.760 you realize feminism is gay and also not embracing religion 0.98

00:48:11.360 being anti-religion is also gay. 1.00

00:48:13.620 Atheism is super effeminate and gay. 0.99

00:48:17.400 That's cool if you're 14 years old and it's the 1990s. 0.98

00:48:20.360 You just read Nietzsche for the first time.

00:48:21.820 And you're shooting videos of playing with a sword

00:48:25.160 and it's like-

00:48:26.000 Who would do that?

00:48:26.820 Who would do that?

00:48:27.660 Now Joel's describing someone very specific.

00:48:29.360 Careful, there was a more base guy that did that recently.

00:48:31.200 That's true.

00:48:32.360 But he actually looked like he knew what he was doing.

00:48:34.060 He actually looked like he could use a sword. Yeah. So, there was a difference. But the point,

00:48:37.500 yeah, that was not a reference to Wes Huff. I'm sorry. I didn't think about the fact that that

00:48:41.520 video landed today as we're recording that. I'm thinking about the other guy. Anyways,

00:48:46.480 but the point is that atheism is gay and feminism is gay. Andrew Tate and a million other young men 0.99

00:48:52.920 like him, following him, they realize that and they're like, we want to go to patriarchy.

00:48:57.760 And so, it's like, all right, we want to embrace religion and we want to embrace masculinity,

00:49:02.880 a masculine religion and so then they survey the the lay of the land and it's like all right what's

00:49:08.620 the christian option zero there is none don't don't look there is none right so then it's like

00:49:15.240 okay well what's the islamic option oh there is there actually are masculine muslims right and

00:49:21.540 so then he picked that and so like that's that's what we're trying to do is i feel like the

00:49:25.200 evangelical church is like gandalf standing in the middle of the bridge right the third way the

00:49:29.760 middle way you know trying to to um to hold back the bell rock right and and you shall not pass

00:49:37.540 from globalism to nationalism it's got to be a third way something in between you know you shall

00:49:42.140 not pass from feminism to where feminism is bad but so is patriarchy it's got to be some kind of 0.92

00:49:47.960 a feminine third way option and you shall not pass from you know like egalitarianism is bad 0.78

00:49:52.880 but hierarchy you know that's terrible too and you know and so they're trying to uh hold back 0.54

00:49:58.020 the world, the culture at large, the entire world in this middleweight position. The problem is that

00:50:04.540 they're not standing on anything. There's no ground under their legs because God didn't

00:50:10.700 create that world. The world that they're trying to salvage, the world they're trying to sustain

00:50:14.700 is a world that doesn't exist. It's not God's world. God's world is hierarchical, it is patriarchal,

00:50:20.460 and it is national. And so there's this return to nature. And one of my concerns with this

00:50:27.420 ministry, and a large part of what we're trying to do is we're saying there are Christian options

00:50:32.280 in all these categories. You want nationalism? Christian nationalism. You want patriarchy?

00:50:37.380 Biblical patriarchy. You want hierarchy? Well, look at God's natural order. There's actually 0.96

00:50:42.960 categories for all this, and the Bible, not only does the Bible teach us, but we have 2,000 years

00:50:48.000 of church history that affirm these things. These things have been outlined by all the guys that we

00:50:53.380 quote, when it comes to soteriology, salvation, but we ignore them and think that they're racist,

00:50:59.060 chauvinistic, you know, whatever, when it comes to all their other views. And so, there is a

00:51:05.320 Christian position, but modern Christians are working really hard to convince you that there's 0.89

00:51:10.660 not. But what will happen is you're not going to persuade 50 million young men to be somewhere in 0.99

00:51:23.160 between egalitarianism and hierarchy somewhere in between feminism and you're not you're not

00:51:27.900 going to win that battle you're not going to win against nature nature finds a way right the prophet

00:51:32.920 from jurassic park you know life finds a way nature finds a way nature will win and christians

00:51:38.560 are literally going to get bulldozed over by by um the vengeance of nature the vengeance of nature

00:51:46.180 and so we're trying to say no no no no don't fight against nature uh but rather shape and direct

00:51:52.560 nature so as nature which god designed does its natural thing and shifts back into masculinity

00:51:58.880 nationalism distinctions hierarchy um just don't work against nature work with it but but but coax

00:52:07.140 it into the right position christian nationalism christian patriarchy and um and that's like when

00:52:14.280 people like i you know people hate our ministry they hate it oh my gosh they hate it um and they

00:52:19.740 and they just can't figure it, figure it out. They're like, I don't understand why you're

00:52:22.960 succeeding. Why? I don't understand why anybody watches Joel. You know, I don't, um, it's because

00:52:28.340 you're going against the grain and we're going with it. Um, and, and when I say the grain,

00:52:33.400 I mean the natural order that God designed, not the culture you, that's what you, that's how you

00:52:38.800 sleep at night. You console yourself and, uh, Joel's only getting views because he's compromised

00:52:43.580 and he's going with the world that's that's cute um no i'm getting views because i'm going with i

00:52:50.600 am going with the world but not worldly mess but the world insofar as it represents the created

00:52:56.500 cosmos the world that god made i'm going with god i'm going with his design his order his plan

00:53:02.960 and i'm and i'm providing distinctly christian versions of these things which are inevitable

00:53:09.700 And if you're not, I'm telling you, Christian minister, Christian pastor, Christian theological, you know, seminary professor, you are literally working overtime to make yourself obsolete.

00:53:28.320 You are.

00:53:30.420 And not 50 years from now.

00:53:32.720 There was a time where it's like, well, we can stay here inevitably, you know, or indefinitely.

00:53:37.440 That time has ended.

00:53:38.700 The Overton window is shifting so quickly that I predict in five years, in just five

00:53:45.860 years, and maybe two, two to five years, there are entire ministries that literally will

00:53:53.140 be a walking contradiction.

00:53:55.560 Like, they won't even make sense anymore.

00:53:58.860 I wanted to mention, Joel, you talked about, sadly, the lack of masculine examples when

00:54:06.520 people look at Christianity.

00:54:07.560 and that that is true uh 100 true but it has not always been the case in christendom so i did a

00:54:15.080 little research into the uh the knighthood system and the the chivalry system that was started

00:54:21.120 actually by uh you will not be surprised to hear this but by charlemagne um the the knightly system

00:54:27.500 in the 8th and 9th century was when knights were developed and then this chivalric system

00:54:33.560 was really in its heyday from the 12th to the 14th century

00:54:37.220 with leading up to it and then its legacy

00:54:40.440 enduring for a really long time.

00:54:42.120 And for a lot of Christendom,

00:54:44.440 the male masculine examples that were held up

00:54:48.620 as this is a man to esteem and to honor

00:54:50.700 were the knights in various forms,

00:54:53.740 whether it's the mythological knights

00:54:56.020 with King Arthur and the Knights of the Round Table.

00:54:58.340 St. George.

00:54:59.140 Yes, or St. George, who goes way back,

00:55:01.280 actually, like 400s even.

00:55:03.560 um or uh actual you know historical figures like charlemagne or or other notable men but what's

00:55:10.440 interesting to me is that the the high chivalry what the code was for men and for knights in

00:55:17.520 particular and this was the what was esteemed by men at the time uh was one martial skill so they

00:55:23.860 had to be able to fight they had to not only be able to fight but they had to have some knowledge

00:55:28.620 right a knight could command troops also he wasn't just on his own so they had to have martial

00:55:33.380 skill and ability they had to have loyalty to one's lord which i think is really interesting

00:55:38.080 that was a super high value for a knight um they had to have religious piety also right so not you

00:55:44.800 mean these men who were who were hacking people up in battle were religiously pious yes yes yes

00:55:50.560 absolutely david yes that's right taking foreskins just man after god's own heart they had to have

00:55:57.120 courtly and proper behavior toward women which is self-control right like if they had the strength 0.51

00:56:03.200 and the influence and even the, the, the armies, they could have gone around raping and pillaging,

00:56:09.080 but they were commanded to be self-restrained and to treat women, um, in an honorable and

00:56:14.060 virtuous way. And then the last one was protection of the weak. And, um, this is something that we

00:56:19.120 just, we, we totally forget, like how, for all the liberals and the liberal Christians who talk

00:56:24.840 about protecting the oppressed and the cry of the oppressed and all of that, like, like biblically,

00:56:29.440 do you know who is supposed to actually carry out that command? It's the strong. You don't

00:56:35.720 actually get the biblical virtue of compassion and mercy for the poor without the strength to

00:56:42.280 be able to do something about those things. And care for the weak has always been the duty and

00:56:47.400 the privilege of the strong. But in our time, most men are not strong or wealthy or resourceful

00:56:55.220 enough to actually do something about the problems in their society. And so it's sad to me how far

00:57:00.240 we fall. I remember growing up reading books about the knights and being really inspired about them,

00:57:05.200 but it's sad to me that the knightly figure, the masculine, virtuous, martial figure has

00:57:12.020 disappeared really from the Christian conception. When people think about Christianity, that's not

00:57:16.920 what they think about anymore. Yeah. Teddy Roosevelt, like a president in our recent history,

00:57:21.280 he soft a little bit on women's rights and labor unions which i credit more to the time but man

00:57:27.000 that dude was masculine cold plunges like him and his buddies would just get a big sticks and just

00:57:31.920 fight one another bloodied and bruised goes and explores the amazon after he loses his third bid

00:57:36.840 for president like this isn't hundreds of years ago these were men that we loved like a century

00:57:42.220 ago and we didn't just love them because they spoke well we loved them because they were strong

00:57:46.180 but good. Strong and assertive, but kind. Let's hit our last commercial break and then we're

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00:59:21.640 free you heard it been said once or twice uh you should cut out and it's a lot of different

00:59:27.800 lifestyle things we talk all the time about toxins that are in our food they're in literally

00:59:32.240 your water supply so fluoride being added the very first episode we did actually fluoride lowering

00:59:37.120 iq this is out of the other there's lots of toxins and i think of i think it's in the office where

00:59:41.840 like someone's like at this point i'm afraid to ask so you hear about seed oils you hear about uh

00:59:46.160 sunblock all these different things you think to yourself like what why are they bad like i know

00:59:50.560 they're bad people tell me about it all the time but why are they again and so i'm going to play

00:59:55.040 a little bit just for the record my bona fides i have a degree from columbia university in biology

01:00:00.320 and I have a master's in epidemiology from University of Texas. I'm qualified to talk

01:00:05.020 about this. But I want to get into why. And I think what's interesting is when you get underneath,

01:00:09.240 like what's happening? Why are these things toxic? It really covers a cool aspect of God's

01:00:13.060 sovereignty and just accepting how long God says we're going to live. And so the key thing,

01:00:19.860 we talk about these different toxins, we'll get into them in a moment, that you want to reduce.

01:00:23.680 the key thing that that leads to lower life expectancy is a thing called oxidative stress

01:00:29.800 oxidative stress big word i'm going to play a video you'll also hear an explanation that'll

01:00:34.360 explain a little bit more we'll dive into what that means for men for strength for health longevity

01:00:38.620 all of that a free radical is an unstable molecule that wants to steal an electron from

01:00:45.700 other molecules or give its own away this makes it highly reactive and destructive to important

01:00:52.540 proteins and cellular structures, including your DNA. Free radical damage is also known

01:00:59.340 as oxidative stress. Free radicals are normal by-products of molecular processes in the

01:01:05.420 body, and the delicate balance of their presence is beneficial for normal cellular responses

01:01:11.260 and healthy immune function. But stressful lifestyles, poor diets and toxicity in the

01:01:16.700 environment increase free radical activity runaway oxidative stress

01:01:21.740 disrupts many important cellular processes and is a factor in many

01:01:26.060 unhealthy conditions your body keeps oxidative stress under control with

01:01:31.340 antioxidants which are molecules that neutralize free radicals you can get

01:01:36.620 many antioxidants through healthy nutrition and even more through

01:01:40.320 supplementation and your cells are designed to produce their own all right so the point and the

01:01:49.200 idea is that we talk about things that are not healthy for you and a big one is uh seed oils

01:01:53.780 would be your canola oil this would be your vegetable oil this would be uh processed like

01:01:57.380 peanut oil soybean oil sunflower oil corn oil things like that palm oil palm oil um sunscreen

01:02:03.620 as well that contains different endocrine disruptors what they build up in the body is a

01:02:07.760 abundance of these things called free radicals. They're these destructive, highly charged things,

01:02:12.600 and they can disrupt your DNA and your mitochondrial functions. Well, why does that matter?

01:02:16.660 Well, P53, for example, is a gene encoded in your DNA that suppresses uncontrolled tumor growth.

01:02:22.500 So if P53 has damage done to it, the cell mechanisms that are there don't repair it

01:02:27.860 for one reason or another, you would get a tumor that grows and grows and grows, and that's cancer.

01:02:32.260 So all of these different things coming in, the more you add to them, it's not adding a binary.

01:02:37.680 Yes, I'll get cancer.

01:02:38.620 No, I won't.

01:02:39.520 Yes, I'll get sick.

01:02:40.380 No, I won't.

01:02:41.180 But what you're adding to it is probability.

01:02:43.800 So a healthy lifestyle, it's not I'm healthy or I'm not.

01:02:47.000 I'm eating good or I'm not.

01:02:48.880 I'm active or I'm not.

01:02:50.720 But think of all of these things, men's health, men's strength, all this on a continuum.

01:02:55.640 And what you do is you do the best you can to give yourself the best chances, not a guaranteed

01:03:00.120 outcome, but the best chances of living a healthy life.

01:03:03.500 Nate, can you pull this graphic up?

01:03:04.940 the big things that men you just, you got to learn to avoid, you got to learn to keep under control

01:03:10.640 is really a poor diet, eating a poor diet. You've also got to chronic stress is a big one. Now,

01:03:17.920 stress, it can be good or bad depending on how you respond to it. Same thing for sleep. God made

01:03:25.000 sleep to repair, to get rid of toxins, to build up those body's defenses, the antioxidants that

01:03:30.880 body has. Same thing for environmental pollutions. This would be your pesticides, so food that's not 0.92

01:03:35.660 organic. This would be your smoking, excessive alcohol consumption. You can go down the list.

01:03:40.700 These are things that add oxidative stress to your body. And again, the goal is not I can get rid of

01:03:47.200 all of them and have none of that coming in, or they're just going to be coming in whatsoever.

01:03:50.760 The goal is how can I minimize that? And then you go to what mitigates that, what gives me

01:03:55.140 antioxidants, what helps take care of that. And that would be things like a healthy diet. We're

01:03:59.460 talking your good fats and some fruits and vegetables,

01:04:02.660 managing stress effectively.

01:04:04.680 So saying at the end of the day,

01:04:05.720 hey, I'm stressed out about this job, this interview.

01:04:09.380 I'm gonna leave it to the Lord.

01:04:10.480 I'm gonna get a good night's sleep.

01:04:13.260 Alcohol, smoking, limiting them,

01:04:16.180 maybe not cutting them out in entirety,

01:04:17.300 but limiting them, quality sleep and good exercise

01:04:19.760 are factors that mitigate this.

01:04:22.200 Now, at the end of the day, like I said, it's probabilities.

01:04:24.420 There are people who smoke a pack of cigarettes a day.

01:04:26.740 They get no lung cancer, no throat cancer.

01:04:28.780 They lived till 90.

01:04:30.020 And there are people, I had a good friend, his mom was in her 60s.

01:04:32.880 She ate grass-fed beef all the time.

01:04:34.480 They had a garden out back.

01:04:35.840 And she had a rare aggressive form of cancer and passed away before she even saw many of

01:04:39.860 her grandkids.

01:04:41.040 At the end of the day, it is up to the Lord.

01:04:43.520 But typically speaking, on average, the means that God generally is going to give longevity

01:04:47.920 to an individual is they live the way God intended.

01:04:50.900 and in that way of living reduces the risk of cancer,

01:04:57.080 immune sickness, organ failure,

01:04:59.180 all of these different things,

01:05:00.220 reduces the risk of that

01:05:01.440 and they go on to live a much more healthy,

01:05:04.700 much more productive life.

01:05:06.420 And so when you think about,

01:05:07.460 well, you're talking about these toxins,

01:05:08.580 you're talking about all that,

01:05:09.740 what's actually at the core of it?

01:05:10.780 What's happening in my body?

01:05:12.240 How do I get rid of it?

01:05:13.180 What do I avoid?

01:05:14.440 Reduce these things as much as you can.

01:05:16.280 Reduce that stress.

01:05:17.500 Have good habits, which aren't pills.

01:05:19.960 Like our Western medicine idea is, well, I take a pill for something.

01:05:22.380 I take a supplement for something.

01:05:24.180 There's not a pill to go out in the sun and touch grass.

01:05:27.600 There's not a pill that can duplicate the effects of exercise, like Ozempic.

01:05:32.200 It doesn't do it.

01:05:33.080 It shortcuts a critical circuit in the body and people.

01:05:36.480 There's a lot of side effects from it.

01:05:38.080 There is no substitute.

01:05:39.480 Ozempic is a weight loss drug, right?

01:05:40.920 Exactly.

01:05:41.220 Quote, unquote.

01:05:42.400 But the good news is, eat steak, eat eggs, eat milk, go outside, love life.

01:05:48.320 like donald trump does not exercise eats a terrible diet but he is energetic engaged

01:05:54.640 high energy a lot of golf plays a lot of golf stays active he's flourishing you know so there's

01:06:00.660 no excuse for you in your 30s he's 79 playing golf working he doesn't sleep much either no he

01:06:07.360 doesn't so these are not rules that like if i follow these things i'm just gonna make it happen

01:06:11.220 you also gotta love life and uh and be an active person yeah right yeah real quick can we talk

01:06:17.140 about um could you talk to the listener a little bit about epigenetics yes i love i love this topic

01:06:25.040 yeah because basically i'll just say something real quick and then i'll say more later but

01:06:29.500 um so you know in proverbs where it says you know that a good man or some translations will say a

01:06:35.480 wise man leaves um an inheritance for his children's children and of course you know the typical reformed

01:06:41.920 pietist. That's a gospel inheritance. Nobody's arguing that it's less than a spiritual inheritance.

01:06:48.360 Certainly, we should be training our children and our children's children in the things of the Lord.

01:06:55.420 And so, yes, take your kids to church, catechize your children, lead family worship in the home,

01:06:59.780 get your kids out of public school, give them a distinctly Christian education.

01:07:03.700 All those things are a bare minimum. And so it's nothing less than a spiritual gospel

01:07:10.780 inheritance. But I do think that that particular proverb is involving including more in addition

01:07:18.400 to a spiritual inheritance that we would also leave a financial monetary inheritance, not just

01:07:25.380 for one generation to our children, but to our children's children, our grandchildren. But

01:07:31.480 I never thought about this before talking with you, Wes, about the subject, but I actually have

01:07:37.620 come to the conviction that I think that it's actually possible, and none of this for the

01:07:42.680 record is the prosperity gospel, the prosperity gospel of, you know, healthy and wealthy and wise.

01:07:49.220 Health and wealth, prosperity gospel, just in a nutshell, the problem with it is, one,

01:07:55.560 that it asserts that these things are guaranteed and that they're entitled to us, that God owes us.

01:08:00.760 And number two, another big problem is it asserts that there's a shortcut outside of the world that God actually established, that you can achieve wealth and health simply by faith, and not real genuine Christian faith, which has as its exclusive object the Lord Jesus Christ, but where faith becomes an end in itself, where I have faith in my faith instead of faith in Jesus.

01:08:29.720 So I'm not really trusting in Jesus.

01:08:31.360 I'm actually trusting in trust.

01:08:32.800 I'm trusting in the power of positivity.

01:08:35.440 You know, it gets into weird things like manifesting, you know, just by, you know, putting out positive thoughts into the universe.

01:08:42.940 And then you just give it a thin Christian veneer and you call it Christian doctrine.

01:08:46.080 But it's the prosperity gospel, which is a heresy.

01:08:48.880 So we're not asserting that.

01:08:50.140 We're not saying health and wealth in your Kenneth Copeland kind of fashion.

01:08:55.140 fashion. But we are saying that, yes, we do want to be healthy, and we do want to be wealthy.

01:09:00.240 But we want to do those things as a means to an end, the highest end being glorifying God and

01:09:05.960 enjoying Him forever. We want to do that not just for ourselves, but for future generations,

01:09:10.160 for our children and our children's children. And then in terms of the means of achieving these

01:09:14.740 things of health and wealth, we want to do it God's way, in God's world, according to the

01:09:18.940 natural order that He designed. So in terms of wealth, we want to do it by wise investments and

01:09:24.360 hard work and being frugal in our spending and those kinds of things. That's not bad. That's

01:09:31.740 good. The absence of that would actually be bad. And so too, we also want to do that with health.

01:09:37.520 But the whole point that I'm building up to is this, in the same way that wealth can be transferred,

01:09:43.320 right? So it's not just making yourself rich, but there's such a thing as generational wealth,

01:09:48.720 that you can leave that after you're gone to someone else, namely your children and your

01:09:53.000 children's children, I really have come to believe that both biologically and biblically that there's

01:10:01.180 a way of passing on not only wealth to our children's children, but health to our children's

01:10:05.960 children. Can you spell that out a little bit? Can I, before, because that's gonna, we're gonna

01:10:09.540 focus down on that. I wanted to make just a tangential comment about what you said, Joel,

01:10:13.760 about how when the Bible says the righteous man, the godly man, leaves an inheritance to his third

01:10:20.320 and fourth generation, or second, third generation.

01:10:22.720 And you said, oh, there's even more applications

01:10:25.400 than just gospel, right?

01:10:27.860 Or even, which was what we're gonna get into in a moment,

01:10:30.220 just money.

01:10:31.800 I actually have a theory that the more we understand

01:10:36.480 about the world over time and about ourselves and about God,

01:10:40.380 the more we're going to realize that the things

01:10:42.320 that he says are manifold in their application.

01:10:46.320 And I'll give you one example.

01:10:47.360 I remember I was listening to a scientist

01:10:49.360 who was talking about the passage in Psalms

01:10:52.600 that describes that the earth is established on pillars.

01:10:56.280 And he was saying, for a lot of my life,

01:10:58.040 I thought this was beautiful poetry.

01:11:00.000 He said, and then I studied astrophysics

01:11:01.880 and I found out that there literally are

01:11:03.800 two gravitational pillars

01:11:05.660 that are holding the earth exactly in place.

01:11:09.680 Jupiter's pole and the sun's pole.

01:11:11.820 And without those two gravitational pillars

01:11:14.380 literally holding the earth,

01:11:16.500 it would be spinning off into space.

01:11:18.220 and he said the point is of course it means that the lord sustains it but he said the more we dig

01:11:23.580 into nature and the more we dig into the word and the way that god has made the world the more we

01:11:27.500 will find that when god said something it probably is rippling with many applications throughout all

01:11:33.260 of the universe and so to that point which you said the the verse about living in inheritance

01:11:38.060 it is a spiritual inheritance it is a monetary inheritance and wes you're going to talk about

01:11:42.220 how it's also biological and and health inheritance yep so i'm going to dive in we'll

01:11:46.860 do this i'll dive in quick word about the conference and we'll take questions i've seen a

01:11:50.220 couple already and that's we'll finish up today with so the field of epigenetics is what you're

01:11:54.300 talking about and specifically transgenerational so across generations your dna most of it goes

01:12:00.540 unused in the day today so it's not as though you have this entire genome and all of it at every

01:12:05.740 single moment is being transcribed and used to make proteins and everything like that there's

01:12:09.500 whole sections of it that are not in use at one time or another and then this dna the discover

01:12:14.060 has been this is a great book called uh deep nutrition so you can read this is about nutrition

01:12:18.260 by katherine shanahan deep nutrition katherine shanahan um genes can be turned on and off

01:12:24.880 sometimes truly off so for example like your hair like the reason your hair turns white

01:12:29.080 is because the protein that deposits the dye can no longer be made because of genetic damage so as

01:12:35.020 you age genetic damage accumulates you lose the protein that makes the dye or whatever so they can

01:12:40.260 be turned and it's happening with up top with me real quick close up on the

01:12:44.520 beginning this is not a present progressive for me yeah yeah zoom zoom in enhance enhance uh no

01:12:52.460 that's good um so one of the funniest comments that we get regularly is uh people will say that

01:12:58.280 i dye my beard and i'm like they have never watched the show you're dying it's yeah at this point

01:13:05.000 at this point i'm not 50 50 salt and pepper yet but i don't know maybe the audience can weigh in

01:13:09.840 but I think I'm about 25% there.

01:13:11.600 In the stinger too,

01:13:12.340 you can tell there's like 50% less white hair. 0.84

01:13:14.060 Yeah, because that was about a year ago.

01:13:15.580 And shamefully, I'm getting a lot up top

01:13:17.320 and I'm only 29.

01:13:17.760 All right, back to you, I'm sorry.

01:13:18.580 All right, so genes can be turned off on,

01:13:21.160 totally binary, it's on-off,

01:13:22.900 but they can also be turned on and off

01:13:24.320 to varying degrees.

01:13:25.640 This is accomplished when DNA,

01:13:27.140 it's wrapped around what are called histones,

01:13:29.020 that it can be wrapped around and turned off.

01:13:31.220 Now, what you can do, what happens,

01:13:33.160 we're understanding now,

01:13:34.480 as some of that DNA is taken in the man and the woman

01:13:36.780 and then packaged together for reproduction,

01:13:39.200 is you pass on what has been turned on and turned off.

01:13:43.080 So genes, for example, for inflammation.

01:13:45.480 Inflammation is mediated by these different biomarkers,

01:13:48.480 and you can have a greater propensity that gene can be turned on,

01:13:51.900 and you can experience chronic inflammation.

01:13:54.240 And this would happen because of DNA damage.

01:13:56.620 This would happen because of oxidative stress that we talked about.

01:13:59.400 It would happen because of lifestyle.

01:14:01.360 You would do different things.

01:14:02.400 You would live a certain way, and that would contribute either to flourishing,

01:14:05.960 so to genes that are repairing well, because there's genes that make proteins that repair

01:14:11.020 genes. So you can live a healthy lifestyle, they're not experiencing much damage, the genes

01:14:15.160 that repair genes are working well, or you could destroy your life through your living. This would

01:14:19.640 be alcohol, smoking, drug abuse, promiscuity, these things at a genetic level, right, destroy

01:14:25.060 people. And the point that Joel's talking about is it doesn't just happen in you. So it's not as

01:14:29.440 though I could destroy my life, sire five children, and it would have no impact on them. IQ, 60 to 80%

01:14:36.800 just straight up inherited from their parents. Longevity, a lot of it is genes, like literally

01:14:42.120 living long. When you said the lady who smokes, you know, a pack a day and then never, never, 0.90

01:14:47.460 never gets lung cancer, anything like that, that likely is because of the genetic material or

01:14:53.120 legacy that she inherited. Exactly. Like living long, a lot of it is genetic. So we're not just

01:14:58.980 talking about like, I pass on eye color and hair color. You will literally be passing on to the

01:15:04.320 degree of faithfulness that you exhibit and that God grants you in this life will then be carried

01:15:09.220 by your children. And they will either have an inheritance that they can build on, build from

01:15:14.280 to live longer, be smarter, live healthier, flourish more, or you pass them down something

01:15:19.040 that can lead to like a, like bone, like lower bone density, worse vision, increased aging.

01:15:26.500 you can ruin not ruin your kid's life but you can really set them up worse or you can set them up

01:15:32.600 better and what's cool like you were saying michael nobody knew this in proverbs solomon did

01:15:37.540 not have this idea of like well i've got my guys in the lab they're cranking look what we come up

01:15:42.040 with but you just you live right the way god made man to live that even in the fall but they said

01:15:47.980 it inspired by the holy spirit and it was true he and the holy spirit knew they couldn't exactly

01:15:51.980 they couldn't tell you how but they knew what they knew that this principle that i'm that i'm

01:15:57.920 conveying right now is true the holy spirit knows that it's true and later generations of people

01:16:03.440 will find out how you know like it's it's the glory of god to conceal um a mystery but it's

01:16:09.140 the glory of kings to search it out and exactly and um solomon searched out as a king a literal

01:16:14.600 king searched out many mysteries in his lifetime and many more kings have come later and have

01:16:19.860 searched out further but it but it is true and and everything that you're saying um it it compounds

01:16:25.560 you correct me if i'm wrong um you're the biologist but it compounds uh uh even more

01:16:32.180 over generations and so not just with one individual so i i can have some effect but

01:16:38.460 it'll be relatively minor in terms of my immediate posterity um that the very next generation of my

01:16:44.780 children in terms of of my life habits and diet and exercise and all these kinds of things

01:16:50.500 but if you have for instance if you have 10 or let's say even 20 or 30 consecutive generations

01:16:58.960 of healthy living good diet and and it's not just diet but it's diet it's exercise it's sunlight

01:17:06.360 also with that would be the avoidance of sexual promiscuity all these things are going to affect

01:17:13.620 your health. So if you have like 30 generations of, well, really what we're describing is 30

01:17:20.500 generations of Christian living. I know I've given this example ad nauseum, but it's so good and I

01:17:26.320 like it. So Treasure Island, right? So right now, we're always reading books to our kids.

01:17:34.360 And I think it was about a year ago, we read Treasure Island. It was a year ago, right,

01:17:39.060 Nate? Because we went, our families together, we went and visited Ogden and I was reading it with

01:17:43.240 your kids and mine yeah it was a year ago and uh which by the way my kids are tiny tots we've got

01:17:50.120 five of them uh we're in the little years and um treasure island is um i'll just say this uh to to

01:17:58.240 make it uh to make it land home we had to go and watch treasure planet you know a few times

01:18:04.720 throughout the series uh because it's actually like probably like a seventh or eighth grade

01:18:08.640 reading level treasure island it's you know it's old some old english but anyways um the the point

01:18:14.480 in the book where jim hawkins uh finds the cabin boy he um they're on treasure island and and he

01:18:21.260 finds the the marauder um ben gun gun um who had been marauded by captain flint uh previously

01:18:29.660 marooned uh six years prior by captain flint um he had survived on the island but he one of the

01:18:37.980 first things that he does when he finds another living, you know, breathing human being, namely

01:18:42.560 Jim Hawkins, is he says, please, sir, these six years I have been without a Christian diet. And

01:18:50.000 he calls it a Christian diet. And I understand that it's obviously, it's fiction. But the author 0.60

01:18:57.860 who wrote it at the time still had some semblance of like that term, Christian diet, came from

01:19:03.540 somewhere and so that that was a real concept in the mind of if no one else the author um you know

01:19:10.460 to say nothing of these fictional characters but uh so then he begins to ask for eggs and uh cheese

01:19:17.000 and milk um a christian diet because he's he's been without these things for six years and then

01:19:22.720 he furthermore he goes and says my mother did not raise me to be a pagan yeah but she raised me to

01:19:28.580 a good christian man and uh and i've been without you know a christian diet and so my point is what

01:19:35.140 just theoretically you know let me cook for a second let him cook theoretically if you had

01:19:41.700 a christian civilization let's say in large part europeans for centuries so it's hypothetical

01:19:50.220 purely hypothetical purely hypothetical this i'm sure this has never happened but let's just say

01:19:54.780 that like there's one continent in the world almost exclusively for centuries not just decades

01:20:02.040 but centuries to where you're talking more than 10 generations you're talking 20 30 generations

01:20:06.900 from you know king alfred which i'm sure he wasn't a real person this is all this is hypothetical but

01:20:11.740 you know for a thousand years chrysidom if that was a thing you know and and it touched one

01:20:18.320 particular part of the world namely western europeans and and their religion um they actually

01:20:26.320 applied it and it wasn't just it wasn't just uh spiritualized they weren't just pietist but they

01:20:32.980 applied it um more than just the abstract but in the real world so that it affected everything

01:20:38.480 their parenting their marriages family but also even uh their physicality their lifestyle their

01:20:45.080 habits and their diet, what they ate. Let's just say religion maybe has something to say about diet,

01:20:51.720 like all the dietary restrictions in the book of Leviticus and Numbers. So let's just, you know,

01:20:56.500 just go with me for a second. Let's say that a society, a civilization, embrace these things,

01:21:01.120 put them into practice, not just for one generation, but my whole point is that it

01:21:06.200 compounds over consecutive generations. Let's say that happened for a thousand years.

01:21:10.840 if that happened for a thousand years um would there be higher lifespans for that people and

01:21:22.240 that part of the world and let's say that there were other peoples in the world where instead of

01:21:28.060 for instance eating cow um they used in their diet cow dung you know or they were cannibalistic

01:21:35.920 or um vegetarian you know vegetarian or they um or there was a lot of substance abuse and you know

01:21:44.600 they worshiped demon gods and used drugs to do it like peyote and things like that or let's say that

01:21:50.220 they were sexually promiscuous you know and had multiple different partners and um would would

01:21:56.320 that affect the physical body and here's the thing if that has an effect on the physical body with

01:22:01.160 epigenetics and shutting down certain genes and unlocking others in positive ways and negative

01:22:06.960 ways, and it happens in a compounding exponential fashion over multiple consecutive generations,

01:22:13.540 would that affect, in affecting the physical body, would the results of that be perhaps even more

01:22:19.120 than just lifespan, how long you live? But would it affect even strength, for instance? Or is,

01:22:29.500 i'll go a little bit further is the brain the mind is the brain a part of the physical body

01:22:35.580 could the brain be affected over a thousand years of consecutive generations of not eating poop

01:22:41.860 literal poop because there are people who do this but eating things that are healthy and practicing

01:22:48.520 monogamy and and then in addition to that furthermore getting rid of rat infants infestations 0.75

01:22:56.060 and creating sanitation processes and sewers, which was a Christian innovation, sewers.

01:23:02.980 So through sanitation, medical advancements, good diet, good exercise, and doing this consecutively,

01:23:10.440 all stemming from the Christian faith over the course of a thousand years.

01:23:14.020 Not only, strictly theory of course, not only would those people per capita perhaps have

01:23:20.140 elongated lifespans where they live longer, but because the brain is a part of the body,

01:23:24.900 could they even also have higher IQ than other parts of the world? Just throwing it out there.

01:23:32.780 In other words, here's the point. God did not create a bland, ugly, homogenous world.

01:23:39.420 God created a world that includes distinctions in every fabric of the natural order,

01:23:44.260 including people at an individual level, but also not just people, but peoples.

01:23:49.760 However, this can be affected, I believe, this is my theory, over time by bowing the knee to King

01:23:58.520 Jesus. I believe that over time, not just in your lifetime, but a wise man, right, transferred wealth,

01:24:06.000 generational wealth, he leaves an inheritance to his children's children. You can also do that

01:24:10.600 with health, not just leaving an inheritance of wealth, but also health to your children's

01:24:15.180 children, and if you have consecutive faithful generations that have applied all of Christ to

01:24:21.800 all of life, even the physical body, through diet, exercise, all these different things,

01:24:28.120 and you do that for 10 generations, 20 generations, 30 generations, I believe that your posterity

01:24:35.780 will live long in the earth, right? The first commandment with a blessing that comes with a

01:24:42.200 promise, the fifth commandment, honor thy father and mother, looking to your father and mother and

01:24:46.600 the wisdom that they had and embodying that in your generation and passing that down to the next

01:24:51.360 generation by honoring your father and mother and chiefly honoring your heavenly father and applying

01:24:57.140 his word to every realm of your life, that you would actually live a long, relatively longer

01:25:02.500 life in the earth than other peoples. And I think that you could be stronger and I think that you

01:25:11.180 could have a higher iq i think that all those things are possible and uh and note none of that

01:25:17.940 is racist for two reasons one because racist is a made-up word and we shouldn't use a left's

01:25:23.320 framework and two because what we're ultimately saying is we're giving all the glory and honor

01:25:29.140 to god and saying that god's word is true and it works and if any people called by his name would

01:25:36.060 humble themselves and, and look to him in obedience and faith, um, then they will be blessed

01:25:44.060 in, in eternal ways guaranteed, but very often because God will not be mocked. A man reaps what

01:25:50.120 he sows. They will be blessed even in earthly temporal ways as well. I don't think that that's

01:25:55.020 a crazy theory. CJ Engel was saying he was looking at, uh, high school pictures from like his

01:26:00.200 grandparents and you could just see in the people a healthiness sturdy stern strong like good jaws

01:26:08.180 like we eat a very soft processed diet and it's resulted in a lot of recessed jaw lines which

01:26:13.900 then teeth get crowded so people have to pull teeth and do braces like there was a generation

01:26:18.360 before that they didn't need that because they had a christian diet they eat meat which developed

01:26:23.160 strong muscles which led to palate expansion so many things you don't even think i'm just feeding

01:26:28.280 my kids fruit loops i know it's sugary i know all of that what's the damage it could do well it turns

01:26:33.720 out bad even that to their kids to that level well my last comment uh before we i guess we maybe go

01:26:41.320 into some questions if there are some is i guess it's two number one this is why i still remember

01:26:46.040 when a pastor told me i said something to the effect of i don't think i had the term christendom

01:26:50.440 at the time but i had the you know the the christian culture that has been established

01:26:54.600 by the west i said it's i said don't you see that it's fading and he said well so what i just thought

01:27:01.320 like how do you like this is why christian culture which we talked about last episode matters because

01:27:06.520 you're sending your children into the future and hopefully you're sending them into a future

01:27:10.520 christian culture which is going to safeguard their children and their eating habits and their

01:27:15.960 work ethic and their sexual practices and the second thing i was going to say is if we haven't

01:27:21.560 And I haven't made this point clear to the listener.

01:27:24.620 We want to be healthy and live a long lifespan

01:27:28.380 in order to see our grandchildren

01:27:29.780 and our great-grandchildren.

01:27:31.400 But if you're a young person,

01:27:33.660 it is really critical that as you're coming

01:27:36.300 into childbearing ages,

01:27:37.960 that you really take this seriously, right?

01:27:40.680 Because your health as a man,

01:27:44.540 when you conceive your child,

01:27:46.120 and then your health as a mom,

01:27:47.540 as you bear that child,

01:27:49.060 and even as you nurse that child,

01:27:50.300 breast milk plays a lot into it is really critical and so if you're still young before your child

01:27:56.360 during age um take this seriously now because it will reap tremendous benefits to your children and

01:28:02.980 your children's children there's a in that book deep nutrition she talks about uh mothers that

01:28:08.960 are under have a lack of nutrition for like the first one and then it's a boy versus a girl like 0.97

01:28:14.340 the girl can actually get uh higher doses of testosterone resulting in masculine features you

01:28:19.840 wouldn't even think like it would be birth order and under nutrition all these things yeah then 1.00

01:28:23.740 you have women that struggle with pcos for instance like that's not something natural it's 0.76

01:28:27.600 the result of a deficiency at some level and a lifestyle choice maybe that wasn't even immoral 0.75

01:28:32.160 i didn't know what was this and you set someone up for a lifetime of i'm gonna have to deal with

01:28:37.900 you know slightly more masculine features it can affect fertility like it all really does matter

01:28:42.780 and saying, I didn't know, is not a valid excuse. Joel? I wrote this just a couple of days ago on

01:28:51.160 X, but I just wanted to share it with our listeners because not everybody follows me on X.

01:28:55.500 But for those of you who are watching live, if you're not just listening to Apple or Spotify

01:29:00.620 after the fact, we put up our handles from time to time. Nathan does a cool little nifty graphic.

01:29:07.560 I'm sure he could do it now. So if you want to follow, all three of us are on X. Michael,

01:29:12.140 has recently succumbed to peer pressure and joined us. So I would encourage you guys,

01:29:18.060 it's at M Belch, that's for Michael. M L. At M L Belch. And then for me, it's at right response M.

01:29:27.160 And then for Wesley Todd, it's Wesley underscore Todd underscore. Great. So anyways, I wrote this

01:29:33.440 for those of you who don't follow us on X. If you are curious, I said, God did not create a bland,

01:29:39.660 homogeneous world. Instead, he made a beautiful world filled with distinctions, order, and natural

01:29:45.900 hierarchy. And the fabric of this design runs through every part of God's creation. Inevitably,

01:29:52.620 distinctions will produce certain disparities. Responding to these disparities with jealousy

01:29:58.780 and bitterness is sin. Likewise, responding with baseless animus, rooted in pride, is also sin.

01:30:07.340 However, recognizing the mere existence of disparities and understanding that many of them,

01:30:13.540 though not all, since oppression and exploitation are real categories, but many of them are simply

01:30:20.120 the effects of natural distinctions created by God, is not sin. Both humility and charity embody

01:30:28.240 the proper Christian response. Humility on one side, charity on the other. Disparities do not, 0.69

01:30:35.420 nor have they ever necessitated injustice. The mere existence of disparities, they do not,

01:30:43.560 nor have they ever necessitated injustice. Disparity can be created by injustice,

01:30:49.720 but it also can exist simply because someone has chosen to be faithful, someone else has chosen to

01:30:57.220 be disobedient. It also can exist because God, he has his prerogative. Now this one is not even

01:31:03.800 necessarily my view, but I will say in terms of arguing from a principle, it is also well within

01:31:13.440 God's rights to create unequally. He does this, we see, with plants, with animals. He can do this

01:31:21.180 in any fabric of creation that he chooses to, and it would not be unjust or immoral for God to do so.

01:31:28.140 Now, whether or not that is the case ultimately is up to God, and I think you would have to do

01:31:33.760 a lot of study and a lot of research in order to come to that conclusion thoughtfully. And if you

01:31:38.220 do come to that conclusion, in terms of your heart posture and disposition, having come to that

01:31:43.420 conclusion should be a posture of both charity and humility. And if that's the case, then it would

01:31:50.940 not be sin. It would not be sin for you to hold to that view. But for me, for myself personally,

01:31:56.740 and I'm not saying I'm right, but this is just my view, I absolutely do believe there are

01:32:01.740 distinctions in every single element of the created order, including peoples that come by

01:32:07.440 faithfulness and faithlessness. I absolutely believe that at a bare minimum. And I think that 1.00

01:32:15.280 to not acknowledge these distinctions and their corresponding disparities as they exist amongst

01:32:22.580 peoples um is is ultimately um a level of ignorance that i think bears moral culpability

01:32:30.740 um at this point i think there's too much evidence to not recognize disparities

01:32:37.960 stemming from distinctions among peoples there's too much evidence to the contrary

01:32:43.320 that to not recognize this is not mere ignorance but i think um a form of lying i i think that it's

01:32:52.120 deceitful in order to appease the spirit of the age, our world that holds as the highest grievance

01:33:00.500 that anyone could ever commit being racially biased. And to give in to that spirit of the age,

01:33:09.160 I think is a sin, a sin of which I have been guilty of in the past. And I want to be courageous.

01:33:19.480 I don't want to be unhinged, and I also don't want to be obsessed, but I do want to be

01:33:26.680 courageous in that area.

01:33:28.900 And I think that biology and epigenetics and diet and all the things we're talking about

01:33:33.100 today do have something to do with that subject, and that's why I brought it up.

01:33:38.380 Amen.

01:33:38.820 I'm going to say a brief word about the conference, and then we're going to hit comments.

01:33:42.120 Okay, conference.

01:33:43.120 So we are, some people have asked, we are going to have a singles event, and it's going

01:33:47.280 to be organized.

01:33:48.600 We've done this in the past, but it's been just a little bit more organic.

01:33:52.600 This one's going to be organized.

01:33:54.120 We have our administrator who's going to be heading it up.

01:33:57.580 And the whole purpose, it's going to be designed not just to, you know, just ad lib and, you know.

01:34:06.040 Throw a bunch of people in a room together.

01:34:07.320 Yeah.

01:34:07.600 Hit the blend button.

01:34:08.260 It's going to be kind of like a speed dating scenario where you're actually getting to have one-on-one conversations and intentionally even the seating.

01:34:16.780 We're not going to do a big circle because that kind of invites group discussion.

01:34:20.460 Instead, it's going to be tables.

01:34:22.420 We are we just looked at the venue this last week and did a tour and we're making decisions

01:34:28.080 with with the venue coordinators.

01:34:31.440 And so we've actually booked a room just for this function.

01:34:35.580 And we're going to be setting up tables and chairs facing each other.

01:34:39.500 And you're going to be going down the line and get to talk to every single single person

01:34:44.480 of the opposite sex.

01:34:45.940 that's there and have a couple minutes with each in order to um to dialogue and to see if there's

01:34:52.320 a spark to see if there's interest there and so um we're really excited about this event

01:34:56.920 nathan are we are we charging anything for our singles event

01:35:00.600 okay okay so nathan said that um that what we're doing is for them yeah so we're we're uh taking

01:35:15.560 a page out of New Christendom's book, which for the record, they've done their conference.

01:35:21.280 When I went in June, I thought, this is great. And I love this conference so much. It's great

01:35:25.440 to go to this conference twice, the first time when we did it, and then the second time when

01:35:29.740 New Christendom did. But in this case, we are taking a page out of their book. And so what

01:35:35.100 they did was they charged $50 for men and $1 for women. And the reason for this, part of it is

01:35:41.040 men bearing responsibility and those things.

01:35:43.420 But also part of it is just practically the ratio.

01:35:46.320 We're going to have a lot more men

01:35:47.580 at our conference than women. 1.00

01:35:49.100 If you're a single young lady and you're on the fence, 1.00

01:35:52.140 come out and check out the conference. 0.82

01:35:53.080 Yeah, come out. 1.00

01:35:54.140 And so for the women, it's $1.

01:35:56.160 For the men, it's $50. 0.53

01:35:57.880 And the hope is that that would maybe

01:35:59.660 even the playing field a little bit.

01:36:02.900 But we've already, I've already officiated one wedding

01:36:06.580 from a man and a woman who met each other

01:36:09.720 at one of our conferences.

01:36:11.040 And I have no doubt that in God's merciful providence, there'll be more.

01:36:15.160 So the answer to the question is yes, we are going to have a singles event.

01:36:20.240 Do they need to register ahead of time for that, Nathan?

01:36:22.460 Just on my site, there's a separate ticket.

01:36:25.440 So even if they're registered for the main conference, they can go back and register.

01:36:29.300 Okay, so if you've already...

01:36:30.800 You have to come to the conference.

01:36:31.940 Okay, so you have to come to the conference.

01:36:34.120 You can't come to just this event.

01:36:35.960 So you have to register for the conference.

01:36:37.400 And then on that same page for registering for the conference, which is Right Response Conference, not ministries, but RightResponseConference.com.

01:36:46.980 If you scroll down, you'll also find where you can register for the singles event.

01:36:50.700 If you guys registered months ago for the conference, God bless you.

01:36:54.280 But you're just now hearing about the singles event and you'd like to participate in that as well, then you need to go back.

01:36:59.060 So go back to RightResponseConference.com.

01:37:02.100 You're already registered for the conference.

01:37:03.600 That's great.

01:37:04.040 But in addition, go ahead and register for the singles event as well.

01:37:08.120 And again, both the conference itself and the singles event,

01:37:11.800 you can register for both by going to rightresponseconference.com.

01:37:16.900 There's also a cap for the singles event, and it's filling up

01:37:20.320 because the room is fairly large but still limited.

01:37:25.480 And so are we close to meeting that cap, Nathan?

01:37:29.820 Are we halfway there?

01:37:31.580 What's up? 1.00

01:37:32.240 so we need more women right now so if you're a single woman uh men is almost capped yep so for

01:37:39.140 the men uh it is just about capped uh we need more uh women um so so that the men um are not

01:37:46.480 just uh hanging out with each other so um yeah if you're a single woman and you want to get married

01:37:52.420 your chances are fantastic um by coming to this conference because there will be a lot of men

01:37:58.380 okay all right i'll hit the first one i know it by heart is does west have a course i would sign

01:38:05.160 up for it if it's on patreon for making charts i don't it's called the crucible of management

01:38:09.160 consulting where i made powerpoints for a living don't know what to tell you you gotta learn that

01:38:14.740 one on your own i don't have a course so they're gonna go to this other company where you know it's

01:38:20.340 what he's saying he did that for a living that's how i learned to make charts he was like west you

01:38:25.860 have a course on charts i go to your patreon i regret to inform you it's not that easy gotcha

01:38:31.340 this is school of hard knocks folks yep uh what say it again nate oh nathan wants me to read a

01:38:40.320 super chat um just nathan wants me to read a super chat just so that i can tell a generous

01:38:45.120 donor that he's wrong uh so baptist 702 uh we do appreciate you baptist 702 thank you for this

01:38:51.840 uh he gave us five bucks and said charging men uh more than the women is just going to take away

01:38:57.500 incentive for men to attend women actually attend uh these things more than men so men should be

01:39:03.500 charged less uh nathan what do you think do we have significantly more men registered than the

01:39:08.860 women yeah so general networking so we will take your five dollars and also uh if it was like a 0.91

01:39:14.560 dating thing or just a speed dating thing yes in general women came out right women do go to those

01:39:19.680 more but yeah you're right that's a good base conference yeah baptist 702 exactly so if this

01:39:25.540 was only a singles event being put on by just some neutral group in the city of austin texas

01:39:31.140 then then you're right but it's this is a um a microcosm it's a subculture of a conference that's

01:39:38.240 going to probably be 80 percent attendant attended by men so that's that's why you're wrong but um

01:39:44.140 we appreciate you giving us five dollars and then also paying the fifty dollars for the singles

01:39:47.960 event so uh thank you all right uh there was another super chat that was from the beginning

01:39:53.440 okay all right okay go ahead wes i don't know if he's being funny but what if you start out weak

01:39:58.840 and ugly do you get more spiritual beauty and strength by the end me uh it'll be the school

01:40:03.720 of hard knocks you have to learn it one way or the other you can't absolutely i yeah i i do believe

01:40:08.600 that uh there's such a thing as the late bloomer and uh but the question is just what do you do

01:40:14.300 with weakness. Like if you just get a bad line. Yeah. So like if you start off as a man. Captain

01:40:19.820 America. Right. If you start off as a man and just genetically. Speaking of genetics and

01:40:25.080 faithfulness. Right. Genetically. Yep. If genetically as a man, you're 25 years old and

01:40:30.820 you're one of the weaker guys in your peer group, you know, or you're a woman who's 25 years old

01:40:36.440 and you're not as physically attractive as many other women your age. Well, the answer I think 1.00

01:40:43.520 to that question is just, what do you do with the providence of God? The providence of God...

01:40:49.100 So you know the old expression that says, time heals all wounds. That's true and false. Jesus

01:40:58.040 heals all wounds, not time. However, Jesus tends to take time to do it. So time, it does not heal

01:41:06.960 all wounds, but Jesus, who does heal all wounds, heals all wounds in time. And so the question is,

01:41:14.640 are you clinging to Jesus? So the woman who is less physically attractive or the man who is 0.88

01:41:21.000 less physically strong, the question is just, that's the providence of God in your life for

01:41:28.140 whatever reason. He's sovereign and infinitely wise. And everything He does, everything that

01:41:32.720 he ordains, Romans chapter 8, he does for the good of those who love him and are called according to

01:41:37.100 his purposes. So the question is, what do you do with that providence? So receiving that providence

01:41:42.820 alone, just having the providence alone does not guarantee that because I'm a woman who's

01:41:51.680 less attractive than many other women my age, that I'll therefore have just by default, when I'm

01:41:57.720 older, I'll have more spiritual beauty than those other women, and they'll just by default be more 0.83

01:42:02.600 vain no you can be a physically beautiful woman in your 20s and a spiritually beautiful woman in 0.71

01:42:09.340 your 70s and you can be a physically strong man in your 20s and a spiritually strong man

01:42:14.780 in your 70s and the reverse is i would say by today's standards the reverse i think is sadly

01:42:23.720 true more often than not that um so when you think of of like culturally and politically

01:42:29.700 um when you think of the left like there's something to be said for physiognomy um there's

01:42:35.300 a lot to be said there's a lot to be said like so you know like um for those of you who are

01:42:40.280 unfamiliar with that you know think like old disney you know like a snow white right so snow

01:42:45.960 white she's fair-skinned and she's beautiful and she's innocent and like the physical portrays um

01:42:53.220 The external portrays the internal, right? 0.52

01:42:56.200 So externally, she's fair, the fairest of all in all the land.

01:43:00.980 And internally, she also has virtue.

01:43:03.820 And then the witch, it's not just that the witch is evil, but there's a portion of the 0.76

01:43:10.300 film where she also, she looks externally hideous and ugly. 0.80

01:43:15.140 And there's something to be said for that.

01:43:16.900 Like when you think of who's on the left?

01:43:19.700 well um there are some hollywood actresses and movie stars and supermodels there's the truth to

01:43:26.300 that but there's also a lot of 300 pound blue haired trolls there's a lot of those too there 0.98

01:43:34.820 is a lot of like i even when you think more like um have you noticed like with lesbians for instance 0.98

01:43:41.320 so that is inherently immoral internally it's ugly it's immoral it's against god's law but 1.00

01:43:48.040 externally, lesbianism does tend to appeal to women who are externally less attractive. 0.99

01:43:55.180 More masculine. They have more masculine features. 0.97

01:43:56.980 More masculine external features. And then internally, they also then choose to embody

01:44:02.720 that. So the question is, am I going to allow the external to dictate the internal? So if I am a man

01:44:10.600 in my 20s and I'm less physically strong for whatever reason, genetically, it's not just

01:44:14.640 because I'm lazy. But it really is God's providence. What am I going to do with that

01:44:21.160 providence? How am I going to respond? Am I going to lean into Christ and pursue spiritual strength?

01:44:27.280 Or am I going to be bitter and angry and pursue effeminacy? And then same for the woman. So it's 1.00

01:44:35.660 not a default mechanism. Because I think the church has kind of said that. Not explicitly.

01:44:40.860 i don't know anybody who's explicitly said it but i think that that message has been generally

01:44:45.580 conveyed that if you're a woman who is physically externally um unattractive in your youth well um

01:44:53.040 that will just automatically uh produce virtue uh in your in your old age and that's not true

01:45:01.140 there are a lot of women who are physically unattractive and then they grow in to becoming

01:45:07.120 older women who are internally unattractive this this is something i think it's maybe newer because 0.92

01:45:13.140 i remember my grandparents and even my parents talking about how single women who never marry 0.82

01:45:19.500 can become very ugly women in their old age you know i think this is something that older 1.00

01:45:24.720 generations had a better handle on than we do now and physical health leads to if you're healthy 1.00

01:45:30.120 you're not in pain you're active that's also going to lead you to generally speaking you're

01:45:35.580 probably going to be you're going to be more patient you're going to be more charitable

01:45:38.160 inviting generous we always have this idea of the jock well there's the jock and he's strong

01:45:42.700 and he's handsome he's good looking but he's rude the reality is most people that are generally

01:45:47.360 good looking successful they're often pretty kind and generous at some level every single one but

01:45:53.180 at some level that's why physical health often lends itself towards type of spiritual warmth

01:45:57.960 and kindness well and that's honestly like you know people have used this phrase before and i

01:46:02.140 think it's it's again not in every individual case but generally true um that a lot of the

01:46:08.400 oppression that we've experienced has been um the results of living underneath a theater kid

01:46:14.760 occupied government right you've probably heard that phrase theater kid occupied government

01:46:19.540 that um at some point what happened i said this in a sermon months ago and people loved it people

01:46:26.260 hated it i got i got a ton of flack so naturally i'll go ahead and say it again um but you know

01:46:31.620 how we've used the phrase nature is healing you know the rubber band is snapping back into place

01:46:36.140 um the anti-bullying campaign in america that has been very popular through pop modern psychology

01:46:46.000 and all these and christians have adopted it as well um there's a way of being mean-spirited

01:46:50.980 that is immoral it's wrong um but there's also a way of of god's natural order being asserted

01:46:58.200 among human society and and what what we did through basically every every film through

01:47:07.900 hollywood and social media and at every level in our culture what we did over the last couple

01:47:16.520 recent decades is we have um we have glorified the the nerd and uh demonized the jock right

01:47:29.320 right like that's that's because you've got 19 year old nerds running around absolutely trashing

01:47:33.960 the treasury department right now yeah that's true um but like i remember it was a few years ago but

01:47:40.280 but there was a TV show called,

01:47:45.800 what was it called?

01:47:46.680 Pied Piper was the name of the business that the guy started. 0.87

01:47:51.280 It was a nerd.

01:47:53.600 I don't watch Slop, so I wouldn't know.

01:47:55.680 Yeah, but I'm trying to remember the name.

01:47:58.000 He started a company called Pied Piper.

01:48:00.120 Somebody's gonna put it in the chat, I'm sure.

01:48:02.640 I hope somebody's gonna put it in the chat.

01:48:04.440 They don't watch Slop, so they don't know.

01:48:05.960 Yeah, they don't watch Slop.

01:48:06.800 And they're a tiny bit delayed.

01:48:07.880 But anyways, the point is, I think it was Vogue magazine or something showed.

01:48:13.420 Oh, Silicon Valley.

01:48:14.380 Silicon Valley.

01:48:15.260 There you go.

01:48:15.980 Silicon Valley.

01:48:17.180 So I think it was Vogue magazine did as a cover on one of their issues, the four male characters from that show, those actors.

01:48:26.080 And they were all standing in a line, like basically spooning each other, but in a standing position.

01:48:33.580 and they each had their hand in the guy directly in front of them his pocket instead of their own

01:48:40.200 and the the caption if i remember correctly because it was it was iconic it was iconic in

01:48:45.720 a disgusting way but it you know it's iconic nonetheless it stood out uh but the caption was

01:48:51.740 um the year of the beta male the rise of the triumph of the triumph of the beta male and the

01:48:57.400 triumph of the they're wearing like sweater vests and like they're half balding up top it's rough

01:49:02.260 And so the triumph of that timeline, when Vogue issued that magazine and that TV show was in its heyday, the triumph, that time period in our nation, where the beta male triumph also happened to correspond just perfectly with the time of COVID lockdowns, BLM, transgenderism, abortion at an all-time high, pretty much the worst things you could possibly imagine. 0.99

01:49:31.940 yeah um yeah the god did not design the world to be ruled by um women children geriatric elders 0.57

01:49:43.220 with dementia mitch mcconnell harstad talking to you mitch mcconnell talking to you joe biden 0.99

01:49:47.940 or weak pathetic men yeah um who would struggle to bench press a pencil with two fruit loops on 0.98

01:49:57.600 either end that like god didn't design the world that way so there is my point is you know people 0.97

01:50:03.900 say physiognomy is undefeated i wouldn't say it's undefeated but um but there is something to that

01:50:09.660 principle i don't think it's just ridiculous uh and that's part of what we're trying to argue is

01:50:13.760 that a true beauty for a woman is internal not external it's imperishable doesn't fade um and

01:50:22.460 it's beauty of the heart that is pleasing in the sight of god which is defined by a quiet and gentle

01:50:27.020 spirit however we acknowledge all that but what the whole point of this episode if you go all the

01:50:31.940 way back to the beginning is and i think west did a wonderful job of kind of setting the tone

01:50:35.620 is saying that these two things beauty in the external and beauty in the internal

01:50:41.120 there it is gosh that's gay that's okay is that gospel coalition that's yeah yeah i think that

01:50:49.220 might be so anyways um but the point is that that for men physical uh strength in the physical 0.57

01:50:56.280 and strength spiritually and for women beauty externally and beauty internally what we're

01:51:03.100 saying is that god's natural his good and natural design um it's not that these would be opposed to

01:51:09.600 one another but that there would be a correlation between the two um that there would be a natural

01:51:15.520 transition from external beauty as it fades there's also this uptake and increase in spiritual

01:51:21.900 internal beauty. And for men, as your physical strength begins to fade, that it's also in real

01:51:27.780 time in God's design being replaced with that, that crown, the silver crown of gray hair and

01:51:34.160 spiritual strength and wisdom. And, and so, yeah, I think that physiognomy is not completely

01:51:42.740 undefeated because I want to play the devil's advocate for a moment. Even Satan masquerades as

01:51:48.560 an angel of light, right? And there are plenty of Hollywood actors that are externally beautiful

01:51:54.480 or externally strong who are degenerates. So we're not saying that it's a 100% guarantee,

01:52:02.480 but I think that the church has embraced that the opposite is a guarantee, and that's what I'm

01:52:09.220 trying to push back on. I think the church has assumed that because you can be good-looking

01:52:14.000 and spiritually immature and immoral, 1.00

01:52:17.820 then that somehow guarantees that the ugliest woman 1.00

01:52:23.860 is going to be the most spiritually mature. 1.00

01:52:26.640 And the reality is, like I said,

01:52:29.320 time heals all wounds is not true.

01:52:32.500 Jesus heals all wounds, but he does so in time.

01:52:35.940 Likewise, difficult providence

01:52:38.980 that includes suffering and challenge, 0.90

01:52:41.820 like a woman being less attractive physically than she would want to be, or a man being less

01:52:46.340 strong physically than he would want to be, that does not guarantee that what you're lacking

01:52:52.620 externally would just be automatically made up for internally, spiritually. It's what you do

01:52:59.080 with the providence of God. What the proper message of the church should be was that does not determine

01:53:05.260 whether you can be spiritually strong or whether you can be spiritually beautiful. So there is a

01:53:10.620 hope for the downcast, right?

01:53:13.800 Which is predominantly the message of scripture.

01:53:16.160 But that's a different thing than what you're saying.

01:53:18.740 There's a, yeah, exactly.

01:53:19.680 There's a hope.

01:53:20.520 So you're not, your life isn't over

01:53:23.020 if you're a quadriplegic.

01:53:24.300 Your life isn't over if you're physically unattractive.

01:53:29.640 There is a hope, a deeper hope.

01:53:32.300 But that hope, just like the external, the physical,

01:53:36.720 those things still have to be pursued.

01:53:39.220 And so, too, with the internal, the spiritual, virtue has to be pursued.

01:53:44.360 Virtue does not come automatically.

01:53:46.740 So any other questions that we want to address?

01:53:48.560 There's a couple more.

01:53:49.260 Let's see if we can go rapid fire through them.

01:53:52.140 Kenton Little, great guy, asked a question.

01:53:54.740 What do y'all think about athletes as role models in the arena of physical fitness,

01:53:58.080 specifically MMA fighters?

01:53:59.840 Love it.

01:54:01.240 They're strong.

01:54:02.320 They're disciplined.

01:54:03.340 They buffet their body the way Paul did.

01:54:05.160 Obviously, of course, ideally, that's married to spiritual virtue.

01:54:07.900 but even when not, I think it's a good role model of just being disciplined. I'm going to do

01:54:12.720 something. I'm going to strive. I'm going to compete. Chasta Elaine, do you all have some

01:54:18.140 book recommendations on Christian nationalism for a 30-something pastor who thinks it's

01:54:21.560 anti-biblical? There's a short book by Andrew Torba and Andrew Isker that's really good on

01:54:25.720 Christian nationalism. Very high-level introduction. Then Stephen Mulf's Magnum Opus,

01:54:30.600 The Case for Christian Nationalism. Michael, Joel, any other books maybe that are older

01:54:34.580 that would just well there's one that's so new that it's not even on the shelves yet but i do

01:54:39.000 that's going to be coming out in the next couple months and uh specifically i think steven wolf's

01:54:43.100 book is better than mine in every way but mine is a biblical defense for it where his was a

01:54:48.740 classical right theology defense for it yeah his was political philosophy from theologians from

01:54:54.540 the reformers and the reformed tradition but yours is going to be more of the exegesis that's great

01:54:59.240 yep yeah all right cory jesus christ is your god amen how do you protect exposed sin in extreme

01:55:06.580 uv areas skin what i said that right you said sin yeah you said sin i meant skin skin in extreme

01:55:13.560 uv areas without using sunblocks i'm speaking of uh endocrine disruptors that are in the most

01:55:18.200 mainstream sunblocks my experience is only a ti o2 and or zinc oxide you know are effective here

01:55:24.680 in the desert other than dressing like the i think that's from um is it from dune yeah the bedouin

01:55:31.840 the bedouin no bedouins just live in benegeseret northern africa oh okay my bad call it nate call

01:55:38.160 it we're done shut it down you can build up a tolerance uh so one way to do it would be using

01:55:47.580 clothes but then uh building up your resistance to it using zinc oxide is much much much more

01:55:52.820 healthy than the endocrine disruptors. I would also add cutting out seed oils. So what causes

01:55:57.320 a lot of the inflammation is the unstable omega-6s that are in these seed oils. The UV comes in and

01:56:03.080 it's knocking off those unstable molecules, forming free radicals, which leads to inflammation,

01:56:07.680 sunburn, all of that. So a good diet, moderated exposure. So not out for eight hours, landscaping,

01:56:14.020 nothing going on, no sunblock, no hat, no nothing. Moderate exposure, good diet,

01:56:19.800 types of sunscreen when you need it the old the old-fashioned ones where you see the lifeguard

01:56:24.860 with the white nose that's better right like that's a better product that older yes um i don't

01:56:30.060 remember what the then the summer translucent stuff that you would rub on yeah um yeah that's

01:56:34.460 where you have to start and you're gonna have to test your own tolerances for sun and everything

01:56:37.800 like that joel joss's question is for you where is it oh josh pulver he said joel is a purple shirt

01:56:45.200 retired uh josh it absolutely should be it is years old it is tattered it's worn michael we

01:56:52.640 have a job to do it's a good shirt on camera but it is not retired it will never be retired

01:56:56.820 much to uh to my wife's chagrin much to west's chagrin um i will be busting out the purple shirt

01:57:03.800 not as often though uh you might have noticed i i've seen a few people in the comments saying

01:57:07.760 hey joel is dressing a little bit better um that uh west deserves all the credit for that

01:57:12.840 um what happened was uh i'm just going to share this i i've told some people privately and they

01:57:18.960 got a kick out of it i'll share it publicly at my own expense this is bold that's okay because i'm

01:57:22.980 willing to laugh at myself but uh this is what we did was uh we decided all right joel you don't own

01:57:28.220 a single decent suit and um you know you just you look like a ragamuffin and so uh wes has a keen

01:57:36.480 fashion sense and so he came over uh to the studio we met up one day and i did not want to go shopping 0.55

01:57:41.820 um because that's just not what i do uh so he was like we can order online i've got these different

01:57:46.960 companies that i use uh but we'll have to take measurements so west showed up with his measuring

01:57:51.140 tape and uh and i think it's fitting for this episode because we're talking about masculinity

01:57:55.160 and physical strength and uh west is um uh wonderfully gifted at motivating through mock

01:58:00.820 and so um so he measured every single part of my body for these custom suits and shirts

01:58:06.960 all it wanted was chest and waist and i'm just doing all of it it's chest waist uh it was it

01:58:12.720 was asking for arms it was asking biceps yeah so arm length but also uh biceps you know and all

01:58:18.780 like every single measurement your thighs everything you could imagine and uh with each

01:58:23.880 measurement uh wes would uh he'd take out the tape he'd measure and then he would go

01:58:28.280 he'd measure the bicep looking rough there chief you know he measured and then we got done he said

01:58:36.380 uh joel you only beat me on one measurement um waist and then i said i bet you i beat you on

01:58:43.100 two measurements waist but also crotch so there you go there's a story you know there's a certain

01:58:53.060 point in the live stream where you just got to end oh man here we are all right any more questions

01:58:57.100 let's see is all the winning via trump executive orders increased testosterone yes winning

01:59:01.660 vicariously through a sports team through national politics does at some level you're not going to

01:59:06.820 turn into a chat overnight uh but it does help promote it all right yep any other ones striker

01:59:12.640 nope uh nate answered that how can i find others to network with from my state of your conference

01:59:17.380 sounds like that's something yeah okay so nathan said on the opening night and i think what we'll

01:59:24.100 do is we've done like raising hands from states and stuff in the past but i think we'll try to

01:59:28.040 make it more helpful like go to corners of the room or something like that maybe even like maybe

01:59:33.400 we can even have nathan a bunch of like name tags you know so like on that night people can um

01:59:39.400 well their badge has their location on it their badge has their location but nobody wants to read

01:59:45.160 like cal grove arizona or like yeah but once you're in the area once you're in the area trim it down

01:59:51.000 yeah okay so on the first night we're going to have an after party and during that after party

01:59:55.520 what we'll do is we'll say all right everybody from this state go over here everybody from that

01:59:59.760 state go over there and we'll and we'll split up and then everyone will be able to you know discuss

02:00:04.460 with each other and also see the badges that get more specific down to you know city um yeah okay

02:00:09.660 any other questions that's good that's it go conquer uh go win go conquer go go fight win

02:00:15.440 nathan go back to the main chat real quick i just want to see um uh was did we get any uh pushback

02:00:22.080 for the end there with uh the saga of wes and i ordering clothes nope we're good the people love

02:00:29.240 it they love it it's a great it's a it's an endearing charming story that my enemies will

02:00:34.720 use to try to uh to ruin my life but here's try unsuccessfully they are going to try no matter

02:00:39.680 what i say so might as well have some fun all right thank you guys for tuning in and lord

02:00:44.000 willing we will see you guys again this wednesday at 3 p.m central time

02:00:52.080 Thank you.

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