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00:00:26.860 history's christian education stood as a pillar of western civilization the puritans the reformers

00:00:34.560 the founding fathers they all understood that education was more than the transmission

00:00:40.060 of knowledge it was about forming souls shaping virtue and training minds to discern truth

00:00:46.880 from falsehood harvard's original mission statement put it plainly let every student

00:00:52.620 be plainly instructed to know God and Jesus Christ, which is eternal life, and therefore

00:00:59.780 to lay Christ in the bottom as the only foundation of all sound knowledge and learning, end quote.

00:01:08.160 Education wasn't only about making a living. It was preparing individual souls for earthly

00:01:14.200 and heavenly good, and it was intended to preserve the soul of a nation. Fast forward to today,

00:01:22.020 America's public schools are a dumpster fire.

00:01:24.660 The Federal Department of Education, founded in 1979 as a political payoff to the teachers' unions,

00:01:32.360 has failed in every possible way.

00:01:35.000 Literacy and math scores are plummeting.

00:01:38.040 Civics education is non-existent.

00:01:41.100 And instead of teaching students how to think, 0.56

00:01:43.860 the public school system indoctrinates them with radical gender ideology,

00:01:49.180 radical grievance politics, and historical ignorance. 0.89

00:01:53.840 We are producing a generation that cannot read, cannot reason,

00:01:57.900 and does not love their own country or their heritage.

00:02:02.200 Donald Trump is right.

00:02:04.120 The Department of Education needs to go, not just defunded, not just restructured,

00:02:10.000 but absolutely abolished.

00:02:12.580 It has no constitutional mandate, no biblical legitimacy,

00:02:16.280 and no moral authority to dictate what children should be taught.

00:02:20.880 The only path forward is the one laid out in scripture and history.

00:02:26.060 Parents taking responsibility, churches stepping up,

00:02:30.400 and local communities reclaiming education from the clutches of federal bureaucrats.

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00:03:01.620 Today, we're going to expose the failures of the modern education system,

00:03:06.360 trace the rich history of Christian education, and plot a course for the future.

00:03:11.540 because the answer is not more government intervention.

00:03:15.440 It's a return to biblical principles and local control.

00:03:19.740 It's time to take back education. 0.82

00:03:22.400 So let's get into it.

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00:06:29.660 Okay, Department of Education, let's get it destroyed.

00:06:33.500 Michael, lead us off.

00:06:35.100 Well, thanks, Joel. Excited for this topic.

00:06:37.680 I work in education, and I work in Christian education,

00:06:41.280 and the reason that we're talking about this right now is because

00:06:46.940 while it's been a talking point for a while

00:06:49.660 that MAGA, Trump, Project 2025 would seek to abolish the Department of Education.

00:06:56.480 Some events have happened this week that while the Department of Education is not officially

00:07:01.580 being abolished, he did tell everyone to go home.

00:07:04.420 Likely Doge is in there today doing their work.

00:07:07.640 And then the word came out yesterday that they are going to be firing at least half

00:07:11.600 of the Department of Education employees.

00:07:14.880 Now, this is a little bit trickier than, you know, just Trump waving a magic wand and abolishing the department.

00:07:24.760 This probably would require an act of Congress to completely get rid of the entire Department of Education.

00:07:30.080 In its current iteration, this was signed into law, so it's split from Health and Human Services.

00:07:34.960 It's the Department of Education Organization Act.

00:07:37.440 Jimmy Carter signed it into law.

00:07:38.660 So because it's established by an act of Congress, the executive branch can't come in and just say,

00:07:43.660 well, we're putting this thing through the shredder.

00:07:45.500 Yeah.

00:07:46.220 But what Trump is trying to do, he told the secretary for the cabinet position,

00:07:51.980 I forget her name, that he hopes that that will be the smallest department

00:07:57.100 in federal government before too long.

00:07:59.060 And so they're trying to cut it down, cut it down, cut it down.

00:08:02.540 And it's interesting because the Department of Education is both, on the one hand,

00:08:07.260 not all that influential, and on the other hand, extremely influential.

00:08:10.360 They only provide, depending on the numbers you look at, between 9% and 14% of all the funding that goes to public schools.

00:08:17.640 That's including universities and K-12.

00:08:21.680 So their actual funding is not super high.

00:08:25.720 In some cases, 9%.

00:08:26.840 Most of the funding for your local public school still comes from the state, still comes from bonds and levies, and it still comes from property taxes.

00:08:35.380 That's the lion's share of the funding.

00:08:36.980 So their budget is $270 million and about most of that, but really it's a drop in the bucket compared to all the schools that exist in our nation.

00:08:45.360 But what the Department of Education has is the ability, first of all, to promise or withhold grant money, especially from universities, and also it has the ability to tie Title I funding to compliance with national standards.

00:09:04.220 Title I is money that the federal government provides for low-income schools.

00:09:09.680 So these are schools that, for whatever reason and by whatever metric is being used, quote-unquote, don't have enough money to function.

00:09:17.840 And so the federal government comes in and says, look, there's a disparity here.

00:09:21.740 This low-income school does not have as much money.

00:09:24.240 It can't hire teachers.

00:09:25.520 It can't, you know, whatever it is.

00:09:27.460 And so we are going to kind of even out the difference by providing federal money.

00:09:31.340 And a lot of the Department of Education money goes towards those low-income schools.

00:09:38.520 Now, what they do then is they say, okay, well, you're funded by the state.

00:09:43.280 However, we've got this new idea.

00:09:45.060 We've got this No Child Left Behind.

00:09:47.000 We've got this Common Core.

00:09:48.980 We've got these initiatives of civil rights policies that have to be enacted.

00:09:55.340 And we can't force you to do that because it's up to the state still.

00:09:59.460 But what we can do is we can say, we're not giving you any grants.

00:10:03.640 We're not giving you any Title I funding.

00:10:05.240 We're not going to give any other sort of aid or money unless you agree to implement No Child Left Behind, which was a series of targeted achievement tests that were really a disaster or Common Core was never required.

00:10:24.100 That was a movement away from the classics and the great books in the U.S. education system.

00:10:29.460 to more what they call college-ready.

00:10:32.420 But this has happened with DEI.

00:10:34.700 This has happened with civil rights.

00:10:36.300 And so they are not only just changing the mechanism of how we teach, 0.79

00:10:39.580 but they're also able to say,

00:10:41.280 until you put some of these different methodologies and perspectives into your school,

00:10:48.840 we will be withholding funding.

00:10:51.600 Now, for the record, this is one of the reasons why the federal government is so dangerous.

00:10:55.980 The federal government did this same thing during World War II,

00:10:59.460 with speed limits. They had decided at the time the technology, and who knows if this is even

00:11:04.220 what it was, but the story was at the time, the most fuel efficient that a car can drive

00:11:09.260 is 55 miles an hour. And so they said, we're trying to save fuel. We're in a war. So we cannot

00:11:15.280 mandate that states implement a speed limit, but we can say, we're not funding any more of your

00:11:20.680 highway projects unless you implement a 55 mile an hour speed limit. So this sort of, the purse

00:11:26.720 power is why at some point someone would say, well, they only give 10% of the funding. And

00:11:33.200 that's not that big of a deal. Why are you trying to get rid of the Department of Education? Well,

00:11:36.380 the reality is that 10% is what's holding up a lot of the lower income schools. And they use

00:11:44.460 that money that they give or give to grants, research grants to universities as their leverage.

00:11:50.940 And you've heard the old saying, there's no such thing as a free lunch. It's 100% true in this

00:11:56.420 case. And so the Department of Education has really transformed, this is what I want people,

00:12:01.780 people see the DEI in classrooms, they see the trans, they see the woke, they see the

00:12:06.740 diversity, all of that. But they have even more than that transformed even how we teach

00:12:12.520 our children. The fact that we don't read the classics, many high school students graduate

00:12:18.020 from high school now never having read a Shakespeare play, right? And so they transform

00:12:22.860 not just the surface level, the easiest stuff to see, the DEI, but what is being taught? What are

00:12:29.520 the stories and the legends and the myths? Well, a lot of high school English classes are focusing

00:12:34.500 more on how to read technical manuals so you can go work in a factory somewhere than how to read

00:12:39.120 Shakespeare or Dante or things like that. And that has a profound, subtle effect and transforms the

00:12:47.000 population of a people in ways that we don't always see immediately. Well, we talked about

00:12:51.600 this we talked about seminaries but seminaries in order to receive federal funding had to be

00:12:55.580 compliant with title nine yes which means they don't discriminate between men and women so one

00:12:59.800 of the big reasons you'll have programs in even a reformed presbyterian seminary where it'd be like

00:13:05.800 a master's in counseling for women and they're putting women in a lot of these classes is 0.75

00:13:09.460 because they need those federal dollars at the end of the day if you have you know your budget

00:13:13.360 is two million dollars ten percent two hundred grand is a huge difference even if it's that

00:13:18.860 small sometimes it's even bigger and so that funding that's on the seminary side obviously

00:13:22.960 we're talking about public schools but that got a lot of women into rts was a big example that's

00:13:27.880 what i was gonna say it was rts like they put out that promo video a while back and it was like

00:13:32.640 easily 50 it was like the cafeteria and outside it was easily 50 of the students were young women

00:13:39.500 yeah um and so like once upon a time in our country you know the seminaries were training

00:13:45.980 men for the ministry and rts would would technically affirm i think that they would affirm 0.87

00:13:52.580 that men are qualified to be pastors right they don't let the women take for example the pastoral 0.65

00:13:58.900 studies tracks right but then what they do is they open up some kind of new avenue right to get those

00:14:04.440 dollars yeah so that they're adherent with title nine so they can get the federal funds and but

00:14:11.580 But then what you're doing in many cases is you're giving a woman a degree and sacking

00:14:17.080 her with debt to enter into a marriage, you know, so now this young minister is going

00:14:22.000 to meet, you know, this young single man training for the ministry is going to also meet this

00:14:25.760 young single woman who's at his seminary with him and they're going to fall in love and

00:14:29.380 they're going to get married and all that's wonderful, but now they're going to have two

00:14:31.820 sets of loans to pay off instead of one, you know, and his degree was necessary and his

00:14:38.180 vocation and hers was not um and so yeah it's weird good so that's and that's exactly how the

00:14:46.260 department of education has used its federal um standing to for enforce things like civil rights

00:14:54.200 title nine things like that so uh the question just use a switch i think that's what that is

00:14:59.080 um no he did not dissolve the department of education he probably does not have the authority

00:15:05.520 to do that since it was enacted by or it was put in place by an act of congress what he's doing is

00:15:10.380 he's gutting it he's cutting the workforce way down and um i even heard that they're canceling

00:15:15.700 a bunch of leases on the properties that they own around the country like they are they're

00:15:20.080 clearing house they're making it as small i think as possible and then wes you said they're going to

00:15:24.980 try and permanently furlough a bunch of people and hope that congress will just kind of well they

00:15:30.520 haven't been working now for several months we're just gonna okay yeah clearly we don't need the

00:15:34.300 department we'll just stamp it and you know maybe it would go away legally to go from 40 employees

00:15:39.440 to zero is a lot easier than they employ about 4 000 before yesterday yeah they furloughed close

00:15:44.560 to 2 000 of them yeah and the president her name is linda mac mac mahone trump literally told her

00:15:50.780 he's like i'm putting you in there and your goal is to make this thing as small as possible now

00:15:54.600 whether it will actually be fully abolished is a question up to the senate right and the filibuster

00:15:59.920 means they need 60 votes you would need to bring on about four or five democratic senators and so

00:16:04.840 trump's they're fighting uphill but i love what he's doing in that saying like well in the meantime

00:16:10.340 until i can get congress and i might not even get them but in the meantime i can save billions and

00:16:14.500 billions of dollars by cutting these employees by cutting these grants by cutting what they're

00:16:18.240 doing decreasing their influence so they become a hollow shell of what they used to be yeah right

00:16:22.580 the question then comes well do you hate education you want to get rid of the department of

00:16:29.820 education and so um you know shockingly christians have thought about education before 1979 when

00:16:37.700 carter uh signed the order that that created the department of education and christian societies

00:16:44.020 have had ways of educating educating people and citizens for a long time probably in the u.s what

00:16:50.120 would happen is the states which are already funding 90 some of the money would maybe just

00:16:55.060 be granted. Trump wants to just grant some of the money that's been taken in federally, just break

00:17:01.160 it up evenly by population between the states in no strings attached grants, right? So the states

00:17:06.180 could say, we need the money here, we need the money there. I want to take a few minutes and go

00:17:10.960 through the history of Christian education. And I'm going to go pretty quick, we're going to have

00:17:15.520 some quotes, I'm going to read fast. But the reality is, Christian societies have produced 0.99

00:17:22.520 educated citizenry for a very long time. And in fact, it's been a hallmark and a defining

00:17:29.660 characteristic of Christian societies, particularly Protestant societies. Although the Catholics, 0.74

00:17:35.560 I'm going to mention here to begin with, before the Reformation, were already moving in that

00:17:40.900 direction. So really, I want to go back to about 1200, coming out of the supposed dark ages,

00:17:48.920 as things in Europe were stabilizing,

00:17:53.100 the Catholic Church founded the Dominican Order.

00:17:57.140 And one of the things that they were tasked with

00:17:59.360 was to educate clergy, yes, but also laity.

00:18:04.300 So they began schools,

00:18:06.080 the Dominicans began schools all over Europe

00:18:08.120 to educate people who needed education.

00:18:11.240 And the goal of this was so that

00:18:14.540 the people could read and write,

00:18:17.160 they could be literate.

00:18:18.920 And this gave rise, you know, you think about 1200s, this bubbled for a couple hundred years,

00:18:24.220 and this gave rise to the Renaissance, it gave rise to thinkers like Thomas Aquinas.

00:18:29.900 This directly led to the explosion of European art, literature, music, commerce, a lot of these

00:18:39.180 things, because even the laity was getting, a lot of them were getting an education that taught them

00:18:44.900 arithmetic, taught them to read, taught them to write, taught them history, things like this.

00:18:49.300 Now, this was not a college-level education. This was done maybe in a matter of a couple of years,

00:18:54.380 but the Catholic Church at that time said people need to be able to read. We need

00:18:59.640 a civilization where people are competent, not just cutting down the tree in their backyard,

00:19:05.300 but doing accounting, reckoning the books, reading, writing, being able to write letters,

00:19:10.160 things like that. This was a big transition. It's hard for us to imagine where we send text

00:19:14.360 messages, but letter writing was not even popular back then, right? So the fact that a businessman

00:19:19.140 or a small shop guy could write a letter or could send an order to another town or another city by

00:19:25.440 paper, this was a big deal. It really, really changed European structure a lot. Going from

00:19:32.840 there into the 1400s, 1450s was when Gutenberg's press was released, but it was really the

00:19:38.860 Reformation, it's funny because Gutenberg's press enabled the Reformation to happen with

00:19:44.820 printing the memes and the pamphlets and things like that, but it was the Reformation then

00:19:50.580 capitalizing on the press that began to really push for educating Protestant societies. And

00:19:56.580 there's some really interesting numbers here. Because of the Reformation and because of their

00:20:00.740 belief that Christians should be able to read the Bible, they sought to raise literacy rates

00:20:07.840 all throughout protestant nations okay so by the by the six in the about the middle of the 1600s

00:20:13.600 protestant nations like england and like the netherlands saw literacy rates soar to above 50

00:20:19.080 of the general population i mean that that's staggering for that time 50 of the population

00:20:24.400 was literate uh dutch literacy rates rose from 12 to 53 in one century um and this was the first

00:20:32.900 time in human history that a nation achieved literacy for a majority of its citizens. And

00:20:38.080 this was because of the Reformation's belief that people should be productive and they

00:20:43.420 should be able to read the Bible. Now, contrast that with Catholic countries like France and

00:20:47.900 Italy, literacy rates remained well below 50% until even the 19th century. So the 15th

00:20:56.000 century, the Protestant nations were hitting 50% literacy rates, and this did not happen

00:21:00.460 and Catholic countries until the 19th century.

00:21:03.920 If you compare that to other nations around the world, 0.78

00:21:07.160 non-Christian nations like India, Muslim-majority countries,

00:21:11.100 some of them all the way up until the 1980s,

00:21:13.680 in India at least, in 1981,

00:21:16.460 India's literacy was estimated to be at 41%. 0.99

00:21:19.320 And so really it's been a Christian-Protestant drive 0.66

00:21:22.960 to educate the citizenry.

00:21:26.500 I like that Protestant angle

00:21:28.120 because we there's a lot wrong with protestant protestantism but even like the statistics about

00:21:32.840 like support for gay marriage and support for abortion and literacy like in every statistic

00:21:37.180 evangelicals specifically white evangelicals they beat out catholics consistently and this is not 0.59

00:21:43.100 just like by a significant last five years you know like evangelicals don't get me wrong 0.99

00:21:47.900 evangelicals are gay but statistically speaking catholics are super gay we went over just on 0.94

00:21:54.640 monday i i don't want to speak out of turn but i think it was in terms of those who disapprove of 0.96

00:21:59.820 same sex not just marriage but also just relationships in general they they disapprove

00:22:04.080 of same-sex relationships for evangelicals i think it was like like 60 70 disapprove for catholics so

00:22:10.860 it was like 73 approve yep a little bit lower than the main lines but evangelicals below half

00:22:16.740 right so yeah so and and we do need to specify that when we say evangelicals there's think of

00:22:22.000 like this christendom right so like christianity and then there's you know eo eastern orthodox

00:22:27.280 roman catholic protestants and then a subcategory of protestantism would be evangelicals and that

00:22:33.040 would be just about everybody who's not one of the main lines united the main lines would be

00:22:37.840 episcopalian yeah methodist uh anglican some forms of anglican luther some forms of like very

00:22:44.480 progressive lutheran dominations and progressive presbyterian denominations right which is from the

00:22:49.760 the main line in philadelphia where a lot of these churches were that first began to embrace

00:22:53.480 theological liberalism so to be fair within the protestant category the main three categories

00:22:57.900 eastern orthodox roman catholicism and protestantism within the protestant category all the main lines

00:23:03.680 are actually worse than eastern orthodoxy and roman catholicism yes so if you take that which

00:23:09.240 is in the protestant category to be fair if you take that um and then you take evangelicals

00:23:14.720 evangelicals are substantially better than eastern orthodoxy a bigger group roman catholicism better

00:23:19.060 it's but it's also bigger exactly so i could see like you know some of our roman catholic friends

00:23:23.780 and eo in eo friends they could be you know say like well yeah but protestantism you know like

00:23:28.940 yeah evangelicals might be better on you know same-sex mirage marriage you know or on this or

00:23:34.360 that or the other abortion um but you know you've got your mainline protestant denominations and

00:23:39.580 they're actually worse and that's true but um they are the minority of the the overarching

00:23:45.320 protestant category so you're talking like 20 percent of all protestants in these mainline 0.84

00:23:50.960 denominations and they'd be like 90 gay you know and then catholics would be like 71 gay you know

00:23:57.080 and well they're actually comparable that's what we're looking at monday the youth are only 70

00:24:01.760 approval which is about equal if i remember to the roman catholic maybe it was very four percent

00:24:06.820 So Catholics, mainline, holding hands together on the same level of being gay.

00:24:13.500 And then evangelicals are like winning a landslide, which is why that's why Stephen Wolf had his infamous tweet two years ago where he said white evangelicals are the lone bulwark holding back the moral insanity of America. 0.71

00:24:28.200 and he's right like it it's um that's absolutely true if you're looking at like a voting block

00:24:33.720 um evangelicals not protestants you got to be a little bit more specific because that if it's

00:24:38.940 just protestants it includes the evangelicals is mostly your baptist and non-denominational

00:24:43.260 exactly yeah it's southern baptist it's you know conservative presbyterians pca uh opc um and it's

00:24:51.480 a lot of evangelical catholics even they would call themselves uh calvary chapels you know and

00:24:56.000 And then it's a bunch of independent...

00:24:58.660 Bible churches, evangelical free. 0.78

00:25:00.720 EV free, Bible churches, exactly. 0.97

00:25:04.800 It's churches like ours. 0.94

00:25:07.180 And some of those churches will be the first to admit that their doctrine is not so robust.

00:25:15.760 It's pretty shallow.

00:25:17.560 But on culture and politics, they're far more conservative than a bunch of guys who have gone to the Ivy League schools.

00:25:26.000 and can dot the I's and cross the T's doctrinally and academically,

00:25:30.680 but then they go to, you know, Sister Susan's church, you know,

00:25:36.900 who's the minister, and she has purple hair.

00:25:39.440 And so, anyways, yeah, so that white evangelicals.

00:25:42.060 But that disparity, to Michael's point, has been a long time,

00:25:44.480 that Protestants have been on the forefront of education,

00:25:47.340 the forefront of cultural issues, the forefront of work ethic.

00:25:50.080 America's a Protestant nation for hundreds of years. 1.00

00:25:52.720 So things are rough, but take that, Catholics. 1.00

00:25:54.560 So a lot of this comes through the Puritans. 1.00

00:25:58.000 I want to read a couple things about the Puritans before we hit our first break.

00:26:01.260 And by the way, guys, if you want a new Puritan hero that you didn't know as much about, maybe some of you did.

00:26:07.700 You're probably well-read.

00:26:09.960 But Cotton Mather and Increase Mather, oh my word.

00:26:12.920 What they did for education in America was incredible.

00:26:16.460 So the Puritans saw immediately as they began developing towns and cities, as the American colony was growing, they actually thought we need to educate our people.

00:26:27.200 And so they required that if a town had more than 50 families, the town had to pool its resources and hire a teacher.

00:26:34.420 And that would be basically just teaching grammar school, like the lowest level, elementary school.

00:26:39.040 If they had more than 100 families, they were required to establish a former grammar school,

00:26:44.940 not just one teacher, but multiple teachers where they were training through multiple

00:26:48.540 years.

00:26:49.340 And the purpose of this was to ensure that all children could read the Bible and defend

00:26:54.440 against deception.

00:26:55.940 Is this the Great Deceiver Satan Act?

00:26:57.960 I'm going to get there.

00:26:58.900 Yeah, I'm going to get there.

00:27:00.700 So the New England's first fruits, this is quote number one, Nate.

00:27:05.500 This is what they said about themselves and the importance of education in this is 1600s New England.

00:27:13.660 After God had carried us safe to New England and we had built our houses, provided necessaries for our livelihood, reared convenient places for God's worship, and settled the civil government,

00:27:25.480 one of the next things we longed for and looked after was to advance learning

00:27:29.300 and to perpetuate it to posterity,

00:27:31.940 dreading to leave an illiterate ministry to the churches

00:27:35.200 when our present ministers shall lie in the dust.

00:27:38.060 And so they thought that educating the citizenry was actually a service to the church,

00:27:42.440 that the ministers would have educated, rational, reasonable people to preach to and shepherd.

00:27:49.800 I do want to get to the old deceiver quote.

00:27:53.060 quote so let's go to the next quote nate this is from um the old deluder satan act of 1647

00:27:59.020 and and look at that on the bottom it's a great title so this is why they wanted to educate the

00:28:05.080 people it being one chief project of that old deluder satan to keep men from the knowledge

00:28:11.160 of the scriptures as in former times by keeping them in an unknown tongue it is therefore ordered

00:28:17.480 that every township in this jurisdiction after the lord hath increased them to 50 households

00:28:22.480 shall forthwith appoint one within their town

00:28:26.240 to teach all such children to write and read.

00:28:29.720 And so...

00:28:30.140 So real quick, explain to me why the name

00:28:32.160 the old deluder Satan.

00:28:33.200 They said Satan's tactic is to delude people.

00:28:36.040 And his tactic previously was to not allow

00:28:38.520 the word of God to be in their language.

00:28:41.160 Now that it's in their language,

00:28:42.560 his tactic would be to keep people from being literate

00:28:44.720 and able to read.

00:28:45.400 Through ignorance.

00:28:46.340 So we would today, we call it like the anti-ADL act

00:28:49.300 or something like that.

00:28:51.140 Against the AIPAC act or something like that.

00:28:54.380 And then quote three, Nate, let's do this,

00:28:56.740 and then we'll probably hit our next commercial break.

00:28:58.780 This was the Puritan perspective on what education was supposed to do.

00:29:04.500 So they had eight bullet points.

00:29:07.980 Education was supposed to reflect larger beliefs or worldview.

00:29:11.840 Education is an ordinary mean that God uses to convey his grace

00:29:15.420 to sanctify and save the individual.

00:29:17.700 This was an incredible point, actually.

00:29:19.580 They said that God will probably save people by having them be educated in reading the Bible.

00:29:26.440 Shocking idea there.

00:29:27.680 Yeah.

00:29:27.880 Right?

00:29:28.440 Number three, there's no opposition between faith and reason.

00:29:32.020 That was one of their tenets.

00:29:33.420 Number four, there's no distinction between sacred and secular because all of life is held captive to God.

00:29:38.540 Number five, education serves a religious purpose and even combats evil.

00:29:44.220 Number six, a general education, learning, reading the classics, things like that.

00:29:47.720 Number six, the goal of education is to prepare the individual for anything and everything God might call him to, whether vocation, trade, ministry, whatever it is.

00:29:57.800 And number seven, education should be broadly based.

00:30:00.440 It begins with the Bible, but it extends into many other areas as well.

00:30:04.500 And number eight, all truth is God's truth.

00:30:06.560 And this was the foundation of Puritan education in America.

00:30:09.760 That's so good.

00:30:10.680 I love like multiple of those.

00:30:12.940 Nathan, can you bring it back up on the screen one more time?

00:30:14.920 i like how uh saying that it um it equips the goal of education is to prepare the individual

00:30:21.220 for anything and everything that god might call him to do uh and that's that's the idea of being

00:30:25.980 a generalist and having like a classical liberal education not liberal and like being a lib but

00:30:31.740 um but having this this general education of reading you know the great books and and uh

00:30:37.980 and and shaping virtue like it's not just uh i'm going to be uniquely trained in this specific

00:30:43.900 field of i'm going to learn how to code you know or i'm going to like that's fine there's nothing

00:30:48.620 wrong with learning how to code if that's what you feel called to do right and you're going to

00:30:52.540 do that well to the glory of god then great um but but just but only learning vocations or like

00:30:59.240 the trades like the trades are that that's great to again go to like a two-year welding school or

00:31:04.420 something we need people in the trades and i think that that's probably in many many ways uh a wiser

00:31:09.780 course of action than sacking yourself with a ton of student loans you know and and going and

00:31:14.880 getting a worthless degree because most of our universities today put out worthless degrees but

00:31:19.340 if they were good then it wouldn't teach you to weld and it wouldn't teach you to code and so

00:31:24.120 uh it may not you may still require specific equipping to get a specific vocation but but

00:31:30.880 what education and universities were supposed to do at least initially they they weren't um they

00:31:36.740 weren't specifically training welders or coders. They were training virtue. They were training

00:31:42.120 just well-rounded generalists, people who could reason and think, and knowing that these basic

00:31:49.860 building blocks of education is going to make this person, no matter what field they go into,

00:31:55.560 going to make them better. It's going to make them more suitable for any field. And that's,

00:32:01.720 I mean, that's like with our kids. That's why we're, you know, we're doing classical Christian

00:32:05.160 education for our children. Now, I'm not going to say it. I get in enough trouble.

00:32:11.660 Well, I'll just read this last quote because this is a little bit controversial. So Nate,

00:32:17.180 let's play quote four, or let's show quote four. This is the New Haven Code of 1655. So this is a

00:32:24.820 civil code for this township. It is ordered that all parents and masters do duly endeavor either

00:32:31.560 by their own ability and labor to provide that all their children and apprentices, as

00:32:37.500 they grow capable, may, through God's blessing, attain at least so much as to be able to duly

00:32:43.080 read the scriptures, to understand the main grounds and principles of the Christian religion

00:32:47.220 necessary to salvation.

00:32:48.920 And in fact, if parents were not able to provide a sort of education where their children could

00:32:55.800 become literate in reading and writing in the scripture and in Christian doctrine, they

00:33:00.600 actually could be taken away from those parents and placed with a family that could educate them 1.00

00:33:06.160 that could afford to or have the discipline to do so which is absolutely crazy that's the puritans

00:33:12.100 that's the puritans that sounds pretty uh pretty puritanical i mean the puritans were also known

00:33:17.900 for like if a husband wasn't pleasing his wife they'd pull him up publicly in front of the

00:33:21.960 congregation like historical charges like that and mock him publicly i you know i i could get

00:33:27.520 behind it we need to return just a brief note on the classical school education and learning to

00:33:31.680 think there's a theory for a while in statistics you read like nate silver the signal and the noise

00:33:36.340 that it was the hedgehog which is kind of the specialist that did a really good job of things

00:33:40.640 so if you get someone and all they think and study and read about is political polling then

00:33:45.640 they're going to be the best individual to predict to you who's going to win the next presidential

00:33:49.300 election but what actually turned out happening which is kind of contrary you wouldn't think it

00:33:53.380 would be this way instead of the hedgehog and the specialist being the one that's really good in

00:33:57.180 their field is actually generalists and foxes that are better able to predict different outcomes so

00:34:02.640 exactly like the election like hillary clinton there's a lot of guys that they didn't necessarily

00:34:06.620 spend their entire life in political polling but they're like no i think trump has that intangible

00:34:11.740 energy they they had a a much more rounded perception understanding of things same thing

00:34:17.220 with people in covid like who was deceived epidemiologists scientists doctors you got to

00:34:22.260 trust the science i mean they spent decades learning and studying all this missed it completely

00:34:27.320 And then the farmer, with no degree, was like, eh, seems like the flu.

00:34:31.120 I'll be fine.

00:34:31.900 The generalist, literally.

00:34:33.580 And then all the leftists are like, source.

00:34:36.100 And then the proper response, of course, is it's a blood memory.

00:34:39.140 I just, yep.

00:34:40.480 Intuition, blood memory.

00:34:42.180 We got it.

00:34:42.540 I made it up.

00:34:43.400 Yep.

00:34:44.360 We got it.

00:34:45.180 All right.

00:34:45.380 Well, let's hit our first commercial break.

00:34:46.580 And when we come back, we're going to start looking at some statistics about the damage

00:34:50.200 that has been done through the education system,

00:34:53.900 the Department of Education over the last 50 years or so.

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00:36:34.940 all right well from the puritans on um even jefferson wrote very uh passionately about

00:36:44.580 needing to provide a basic education for um the the the common citizen and we're talking like

00:36:50.760 just enough to be literate and do arithmetic um the u.s uh government has in the past had

00:36:57.020 positions or departments that sought to aid educating the populace. And

00:37:04.420 do you remember the name of it originally? I had researched it, but I didn't type it down.

00:37:10.380 I don't remember.

00:37:10.880 It was something that Andrew Jackson, in his time, they put together an organization,

00:37:16.440 and basically it just ran statistics and provided recommendations to the government about what

00:37:23.460 parts of the nation were lagging behind or doing well with education.

00:37:27.780 It was really an advisory role.

00:37:29.760 And it wasn't, like Wes said earlier, until 1979 that Jimmy Carter's administration pushed

00:37:35.460 for the creation of the Department of Education.

00:37:37.440 Now, one quick note with that is the reason they pushed for the creation of the Department

00:37:42.360 of Education in 1979 is that it was a campaign promise that Carter made to the teachers unions.

00:37:48.800 He said, if you back me, if you get all your members to vote for me, if you fund my campaign,

00:37:53.460 I promise we will create a new cabinet department, the Department of Education, and give you

00:37:59.700 a ton of access to what we're doing nationally.

00:38:03.480 The department, the teachers unions have always, pretty much since their beginning, been bad

00:38:08.060 news.

00:38:08.380 In fact, my mother-in-law, my mother-in-law was an educator for deaf children. 0.92

00:38:13.840 Who's real quick?

00:38:14.440 Who's on the teachers unions?

00:38:16.400 Is it like a lot of men?

00:38:21.760 Okay, go ahead. 0.84

00:38:22.560 i didn't think so i just when they when they started getting power my mother-in-law actually

00:38:26.660 refused to join the union and she had to go to court and it was like a 20-year battle and she

00:38:31.180 finally won and after 20 years of that all it meant was she didn't have to pay those back union

00:38:36.020 dues i mean she didn't get any sort of you know but the teachers unions are really like they're

00:38:43.900 the reason why you have these rooms in new york districts where there are people who have been

00:38:51.580 accused and and pretty much demonstrably shown to have abused students or done inappropriate things

00:38:56.880 in classrooms and all these um union regulations are so stringent that they can't fire these

00:39:03.300 teachers and so i remember reading a story a number of years ago where there were 400 teachers

00:39:07.560 in new york who would report to this building and they would just go sit in a room and they had to

00:39:11.260 be there for eight hours because they couldn't be fired but they weren't going to put them back in

00:39:14.500 the classroom when was it covet no no it was before covet i think um i remember hearing yeah

00:39:19.400 many stories like that and i remember hearing stories of like teachers who um even you know

00:39:26.640 sadly like did did something sexual and illegal with uh a student and but still didn't get fired

00:39:36.120 right and like sat in an office yeah that's what i'm saying there were 400 of these in new york

00:39:40.520 for that reason for yes oh man i missed that part they couldn't and they couldn't be fired because

00:39:45.720 of the union regulation so they just kept collecting that sounds like episcopalian ministers

00:39:50.300 they did the same thing empty rooms for eight hours yeah same thing catholics i'll say too

00:39:55.400 in my experience in politics and hearing stories from other representatives and senators when you

00:40:00.080 cross education yes and you even demand i don't know a dime back or you say like maybe this you

00:40:06.800 know this rule or law you've gotten accustomed to there is no group as vitriolic as teachers

00:40:12.700 unions that will come after you for even like the most mundane things yeah give more details than

00:40:19.760 that but uh they're incredibly powerful yeah politically and they make you feel it when uh

00:40:24.480 you cross them yeah it's interesting because reagan when he ran one of his uh the things

00:40:30.000 that he ran on was carter had just established the department of education and he said one of

00:40:35.380 the goals of my administration will be to get rid of it he said at the time he said it's only been

00:40:40.160 here for two years or a couple of years we can get rid of it and we can just move on like it

00:40:45.180 never happened well he was not able to get rid of it um and it's been there since but but actually

00:40:50.260 79 like it hasn't been around that long this has not been the model for how we do education in

00:40:55.200 america right for all that long it was states and local communities entirely before that point

00:41:01.820 yeah under the department of education edgy uh are are americans so the someone asked earlier

00:41:08.380 about statistics this the statistics in this episode are all going to be about the u.s today

00:41:13.560 and our catholic protestant ones earlier i think they were asking those are all oh yeah those are

00:41:17.360 all the u.s too yep um but we have not done well since the department of education entered uh

00:41:23.860 entered the chat as it were um we have plummeting literacy rates so some general things before i go

00:41:31.460 to some graphs um only and this was 2023 only 58 percent of fourth graders were performing at grade

00:41:37.840 level in math. Now, this is partly COVID. That was down from 69 in 2019. Only 24% of 13-year-olds

00:41:45.440 were taking algebra compared to 10 years before that, 34% were taking algebra. So this means that

00:41:52.740 their mathematics progression was slow enough that they could not be taking algebra at that age. They

00:41:57.820 had to take a more remedial at math. So that had dropped 10% by 2023. And then in international

00:42:03.880 comparisons currently, or this was 2023 as well, the U.S. was ranking 38th in math, 24th in science,

00:42:12.260 and 20th in reading. Singapore students are currently, when they graduate from high school,

00:42:17.980 they're three years ahead of American students in math. Now, one thing that is not factored into

00:42:25.700 some of these statistics is that our best and brightest are actually still competing pretty

00:42:30.560 well on the global level. So when you take the people, the students in America who are quite

00:42:35.720 good in their area, they still are about even with what the rest of the world is doing. But our

00:42:42.220 average citizen is dropping behind very, very quickly as compared to other nations around the

00:42:47.800 world. Are the best and the brightest in our nation, though, going to public school? Probably

00:42:52.220 not. So our best are probably doing it because they're not being influenced by the Board of

00:43:00.040 education all right let's look at um a couple other general things um in science the u.s is

00:43:06.080 20th in the world we're in the bottom half compared to the um kind of the first world nations

00:43:11.300 um in literacy uh of 54 of u.s adults now this is 24 24 numbers um lack basic proficience in

00:43:21.520 literacy they read below the equivalent of a sixth grade level this is 54 of adults in america

00:43:27.200 are reading below a sixth grade level go to any drive-thru in america and honestly i believe it

00:43:32.340 yep if anything that sounds low yep uh that is a hundred a hundred percent what you say there wes

00:43:38.420 and that means 130 million americans who are not reading above an elementary level an elementary

00:43:43.560 school level that's they talk about the what the reformation and the protestant movement education

00:43:49.780 did and we are going the exact opposite direction it's absolutely stunning um in 2022 studies found

00:43:56.640 that only 29% of 8th grade public school students

00:43:59.760 were deemed proficient in reading skills.

00:44:02.160 So not even a third of 8th graders

00:44:04.380 in American public schools were proficient.

00:44:06.640 This is not excellent.

00:44:07.440 This is just can read at the grade level,

00:44:10.860 which is absolutely shocking.

00:44:13.060 We can look at a lot of things.

00:44:14.640 In geography, we're terrible.

00:44:17.640 But one thing that to me is really interesting

00:44:20.420 that they've also measured was civic pride.

00:44:23.540 So in 2013, Gallup found,

00:44:25.440 Now, 2013 is before BLM and a lot of the really vitriolic anti-America 1619 project.

00:44:33.560 This is before that.

00:44:34.760 And even by 2013, Gallup found that 85% of older American adults consider themselves

00:44:41.380 to be very proud to be an American, whereas Americans 18 to 34, the number was 18%.

00:44:51.240 So it's no great shock to discover that the U.S. military has been facing serious recruitment challenges.

00:44:58.840 Nate, let's look at some of the graphs.

00:45:00.680 I want to power through the data, and then we'll just kind of open it up to discussion here with the two of you.

00:45:04.980 So let's look at chart number one.

00:45:08.400 On average, the U.S. spends more per student on education than every nation in the world except for Luxembourg.

00:45:16.600 And Luxembourg is a tiny little city-state.

00:45:19.360 so by state you can see some of them there this is thousands in washington state um 20.7 thousand

00:45:27.760 dollars per year are spent on the average student that is that's crazy what that's washington that's

00:45:35.180 washington top left but they're all really high i mean florida's florida is one of the lowest

00:45:39.600 and it's twelve thousand dollars a year per student but but like if you think about work

00:45:44.060 is thirty three thousand thirty three new york is incredibly high wow incredibly high if you put

00:45:50.300 your kid in a private christian school you might be spending five or six thousand dollars a year

00:45:54.740 right um what is going on with this to get the result that abysmal correct right correct this

00:46:03.220 level of money for the results that we're getting is shocking right and it's it's why i mean i know

00:46:09.000 that most we just said most of the money is coming from states not from the federal government but

00:46:13.080 but guys this is this is crazy well this is the same problem because i worked in health care and

00:46:17.900 consulting this is the same problem with the health care system is that administrative costs

00:46:22.540 have exploded and so it's very easy you don't need specialization or degrees or anything but

00:46:28.640 you can add it administration and administration does you know paperwork and shuffle things around

00:46:32.960 because of bureaucracy and you add all these regulations you have to have the administration

00:46:37.000 to jump through all these hoops and stuff and so it's like it's like a drug they're addicted to

00:46:41.300 right you can't work without it gets to a point where only like half of your employees are actually

00:46:45.380 teachers and half of them are if even that that's the same thing like nursing and doctors like a

00:46:50.820 tiny fraction of the staff and that's i think narrow iai and stuff will be helpful you know

00:46:56.220 like that like a lot of those kinds of meaningless jobs will be replaced you know like you can cut

00:47:01.420 the red tape you know and get rid of some of the bureaucracy and some of the regulations and the

00:47:05.460 hoops but then also you can get bots that can do those meaning menial tasks uh for you so that

00:47:12.680 like so you reserve your manpower and salaries for people who are actually teaching yep and then

00:47:17.720 you can get good teachers and but i as i was looking at the map there i was thinking like

00:47:21.380 all right so that much money for those poor that poor results and i think you know part of it is

00:47:27.800 is certainly the people i mean like the teachers unions are are i think some of the worst people

00:47:32.980 in the country um you know so and then a lot of the bureaucracy and the administration those

00:47:38.100 kinds of things but there are like i know i don't want to be overly negative i know that there are

00:47:43.220 some really great teachers the teachers themselves but they can't they're a fraction of the cost so

00:47:50.080 if it's like you know 33 000 per student per year in new york for instance um you know the teachers

00:47:56.760 who are actually teaching the student are probably only seeing a fraction of that probably less than

00:48:01.180 20 you know it's actually going um you know to to the teacher um and so so i think it i think it's

00:48:09.140 you know it's administration it's bureaucracy it's it's the system it's um it's it's all those

00:48:16.240 things um i don't want to be too hard some of the teachers i'm sure are lousy but i think a lot of

00:48:20.540 the teachers you know they could do something else that would be a lot easier less hours and uh and

00:48:26.400 more pay and so i i do think that some of the teachers really are salt of the earth people a

00:48:30.880 lot of them are christians um you know or mcintyre he was teaching you know for several years and

00:48:36.820 like he was a good one my dad is is currently teaching like he's he's a good one so um i you

00:48:41.700 know and both were in the public school district so i think you know again i guess what i'm trying

00:48:46.540 to say is like if i'm accounting for such poor results with so much money i think it's not so

00:48:53.060 much like that you know just the worst teachers you could possibly imagine but it's the bureaucracy

00:48:56.900 it's the administration and i'm going to say it um i i do think that it it's uh probably

00:49:03.940 challenging uh like you don't you don't get everyone to rise up to a higher level you

00:49:11.080 instead what usually happens is that you take everyone down to the lowest common denominator

00:49:16.040 like and um and when you're when you're doing school based off of um it's like there's one

00:49:23.620 school and everybody goes to it because there's no other schooling options you know like you're

00:49:28.020 you're already paying taxes so this is the option you're already paying for and the only other

00:49:32.760 options are going to cost you know seven eight nine ten grand a lot of classical schools are

00:49:36.940 like 20 grand easy or higher a year per per student um and and so it's like a lot of people

00:49:43.680 can't they just can't afford to send their kids anywhere else so you you send them to the public

00:49:48.820 school it's the only option it's geographically based it's based off of what neighborhood you live

00:49:53.820 in um and so then and and and so then if you live in a certain demographic then it's like okay you

00:50:01.540 know yeah the the board of education is a problem the teachers union is a problem that the bureaucracy

00:50:06.160 is a problem but it's also a problem that like your kids are are going to school with other kids

00:50:13.040 who don't want to learn a lot of times and who are have you know are constantly misbehaving or

00:50:19.700 being distracting and like that's i mean that is a big part of it i remember you know i like i went

00:50:25.640 to public school and i remember um you know constantly just being concerned about um what

00:50:33.020 was what was you know like like fights would break out in the school you know and this would be

00:50:37.620 happening this that would be happening it would be like i would you know there were plenty of

00:50:41.980 moments where i was not thinking about academics i wasn't thinking about learning i was you know

00:50:46.160 i yeah it's like there are some really rough kids like really rough kids who um do terrible things

00:50:54.720 at school to teachers to other to other students and the idea that um you know you have to send

00:51:01.640 your kids there and you can't you know afford to send them anywhere else uh everybody you don't

00:51:07.360 All the ships don't rise.

00:51:08.860 They all sink.

00:51:10.180 And so, which is why, you know, I think there's so many things that are broken with our current system.

00:51:16.500 But I feel like the first way to get out of it is, as much as you can, being frugal and trimming your budget and trying to pick up, you know, hustle and pick up some extra whatever you can to get your wife back into the home.

00:51:33.080 As much as you can. 0.96

00:51:34.260 The first thing that I would encourage any Christian family is whatever it takes, if it's downsizing your house, if it's going back to one car instead of two, whatever it takes to have a single income household. 0.76

00:51:48.100 Because the moment that you've done that, that doesn't mean that you have an extra nine, ten grand lying around for a classical school.

00:51:54.380 But what you can do is you can homeschool.

00:51:57.020 And it's like, well, my wife has never homeschooled before.

00:51:59.880 Guarantee she'll be better than a public school. 0.92

00:52:02.400 Guarantee. 1.00

00:52:02.760 It's like, my wife can't even read. 1.00

00:52:04.260 it'll still be better than a public school. 1.00

00:52:07.100 Immediately.

00:52:08.060 Immediate.

00:52:09.000 Immediate improvement.

00:52:10.500 Because what you're doing at bare minimum is,

00:52:13.060 all right, so what do your children get day one?

00:52:15.780 Well, day one, they're not afraid for their lives.

00:52:20.120 Like in a school with some of the most degenerate people

00:52:23.800 who are dangerous.

00:52:27.600 Public schools are dangerous.

00:52:28.860 Public high schools are dangerous.

00:52:30.840 Kids are afraid.

00:52:32.400 Physically dangerous, but also dangerous to your school.

00:52:34.260 to your soul how many of those kids have cell phones that show right kids on the bus kids in

00:52:40.100 class take a look at this i've heard so many stories constantly if not in christian schools

00:52:44.580 that happening forget public school yeah yeah even in christian you're right but in public schools

00:52:48.960 yeah it's infested with pornography there's tons of gangs and fighting and the libraries aren't you

00:52:53.420 and it's not just the phones it's what's the no you're right yeah some of it's some of it's uh

00:52:58.780 impromptu pornography on the phones and some of it's approved pornography if you survive the bus

00:53:03.440 ride yeah then you get to the library so so day one it's like well my wife's never been a teacher

00:53:08.380 and i don't know if we're going to be able to do this um there's so many resources there are so

00:53:13.680 many resources just staying at home it's not like it used to be with the with the internet now

00:53:18.460 exactly it is so much easier to homeschool than it was 20 years ago right i was listening to a guy

00:53:24.020 just the other day i wish i could remember what the program was but it's like like everything's

00:53:28.440 like a simulation in like games like where you're basically like you're um and it's primarily it's

00:53:33.140 not so much for literature so you would still have to supplement in other you know um in other

00:53:37.300 subjects but like with mathematics and science and a lot of these like think like ender's game

00:53:41.940 right um and it's you know and they're scoring like the kids who have gone through it it's been

00:53:46.660 a few years now so they have some longer term results that they're able to show for their

00:53:50.320 product and the kids um are are like dominating in um and there's their sat scores and all this

00:53:57.820 kind of stuff. And it requires like zero parent, like the mom doesn't have to teach. I'm not saying

00:54:04.420 that parents shouldn't still be a part of it and be involved. I think that's one of the great

00:54:08.020 benefits of being home is being with the family. So I'm not saying mom can just go do her thing,

00:54:12.720 but I'm saying just getting your kids out of public school, just getting them out of public 0.93

00:54:17.340 school. And to do that, dads, the first thing you have to do is you have to get your wife 0.89

00:54:21.660 out of work. Right now, she is a helpmeet to some other man, and you want her to be your helpmeet,

00:54:28.380 not somebody else's. And so, doing whatever it is, downsizing, picking up some extra work,

00:54:33.720 figuring out a side hustle, whatever it takes to bring your wife back to you. The first thing is

00:54:39.660 wives returning to their husbands and being the helpmeet for their husband, their man, 0.97

00:54:44.400 instead of the helpmeet for the man. And then as soon as you've done that, as soon as you can get 0.74

00:54:49.360 your wife back to you husband then you can get your children back to you husband and wife mother

00:54:54.520 and father and bringing them back in the home it's like well we don't have experience we've never 0.74

00:54:58.000 taught there are a ton of resources and immediately overnight just by virtue of your kids not being

00:55:04.460 in a hell hole aka a public school not being afraid for their lives you as a parent not having

00:55:11.200 to be afraid for their soul not being indoctrinated not being brainwashed not being around dangerous

00:55:17.120 children dangerous adults um immediately you can start using resources for very cheap and most of

00:55:24.280 them for free online and your kids will be light years above everybody else i just looked up the

00:55:31.120 statistics uh 25 mothers in the u.s identify as stay at home and that's up 10 from 2022 in the 0.95

00:55:38.520 wake of covid a lot of moms have hung up whatever it would be the doctor's jacket you know the

00:55:43.340 teachers the teacher's cap so that's about a quarter of women that are doing that now praise

00:55:47.700 god it is difficult uh someone mentioned income tax for sure that's a huge factor in it but um

00:55:52.940 like what what else matters what are you working for if it's not to see your kids raised in the

00:55:58.880 nurture and the admonition of the lord to love you to love their mother like what are we doing

00:56:03.620 all this for like what we're doing this for if you unpack it it's like what's underneath here

00:56:07.900 oh carnival cruises to europe like that's why we're a lot of times not always but a lot of

00:56:12.600 times it's really underneath it is material desires do you have to say yeah we'll forego

00:56:16.120 the money we'll forego this that or the other that we could have because the more important

00:56:20.260 thing is the souls and the life of our children michael laudermilch said in the you know in the

00:56:25.560 property tax which funds the schools he's right for like for us in texas in our county um our

00:56:31.960 our property taxes i think it's over 50 goes to uh public school right if it wasn't for public

00:56:37.540 schools um our property tax would immediately be less than half something i want to say i could be

00:56:43.740 totally off base but i think this is correct the public school funding is 80 billion dollars in

00:56:49.320 texas and we have a problem department of education is a problem we have in our constitution that

00:56:54.300 texas will provide a state level free education all of its students which when the state is tiny

00:57:01.400 in a different era in a different time with different demographics that's actually not the

00:57:07.040 worst thing in the world right these were not evil satanic people right that had this idea there was

00:57:11.160 a time when they said we want to have something affordable so the sons and daughters of a blue

00:57:15.700 collar oil field worker can go and get a good education right a lot of these people are not

00:57:20.360 all that yeah but well today it's just totally different you're right yeah the original texans

00:57:26.980 you know setting up a constitution and thinking yeah for the you know for the maybe a hundred

00:57:32.940 thousand people in our state you know like we're gonna have this program and we're all protestants

00:57:38.780 and we're all you know we're we're all anglo protestants and of european stock you know and

00:57:43.960 blah blah blah like that that's you know and there's a hundred thousand of us and like that's

00:57:48.240 different than they couldn't conceive of the possibility that oh and you know um but decades 1.00

00:57:55.120 and decades from now we're going to ship uh by the millions third world foreigners to your doorstep 0.96

00:58:02.140 and you're going to have atheists and hindus and muslims and jews and all these different people 1.00

00:58:07.980 from the administrative state is going to bloat yeah it's going to bloat and it's going to be 0.98

00:58:11.660 millions and millions of people that have virtually nothing in common nothing like religiously

00:58:16.980 culturally um and oh and by the way in your public schools you're also um be prepared for a a fairly

00:58:23.980 sizable swath of your student base to not even speak english right yeah like yep like and and

00:58:30.440 yes and the state's going to pay for it yeah that was not on the horizon that was that was

00:58:34.680 that was not on their mind when when jefferson jefferson people objected jefferson was like

00:58:41.300 one of the he was opposed to the central bank like he was not a progressive or live in any way

00:58:47.700 but he he argued that tax some tax money should go to fund schools and what he said was funding

00:58:55.320 the school will keep tyranny at bay now when he was suggesting funding a school it was three to

00:59:02.620 five years of public education for free it was a one room schoolhouse or at best a grammar school

00:59:08.320 with a couple of teachers it was not it departments for the school groundskeepers for the school um

00:59:14.760 like that's when people when people look at europe and they say well europe has free university

00:59:19.440 like have you seen european universities it's a building where they go to a classroom and they

00:59:24.260 learn it's not huge football stadiums it's not gourmet cafeterias um like like we're comparing

00:59:30.740 apples to oranges here texas like like we're paying 2.65 property tax my wife and i with our

00:59:37.800 oh 2.65 uh percent property tax and uh and luckily we got our home you know back in in 2020 and we

00:59:45.960 got a decent deal but we're we're still paying like i think it's over ten thousand dollars like

00:59:52.740 11 grand something like that annually and then you look at like what number one it uh i think

00:59:58.260 it's like 55 of that uh last time i checked goes to public schools and uh our kids don't use that

01:00:05.280 school so i'm spending i'm spending like six grand a year five hundred dollars a month

01:00:09.960 towards uh somebody else's kids that aren't closer to 750 and not even it i might be persuaded of it

01:00:18.760 if uh if it was going towards their education but then every time i i get my car and drive

01:00:24.740 i see the uh the high school football stadium that they've been building for the last five years right

01:00:30.120 right you know near my house and i know that that is where the bulk of my money's it's like state

01:00:35.880 of the art right for a high school texas football team right so it's not to it's not to make sure

01:00:41.840 that these kids you know uh can read and it's certainly not to shape virtue it's so that these

01:00:47.720 kids can play sports ball yep you know and and they're not even my kids and and and so yeah so

01:00:55.100 it's absolutely insane your your point is a good one to say it was for education and now i would

01:01:00.120 look at it and i would just say we have the internet like honestly like yeah we have the

01:01:06.040 internet it's like hey i you know well we need this much administration we have the internet we

01:01:10.760 have we have narrow ai that's right like well we need you need uh admin nope um you're replaced

01:01:16.760 well we need uh we need public education no we have the internet like i i know it's gonna be

01:01:22.400 it's gonna shake things up it's gonna get a little messy um but i actually am am very optimistic

01:01:29.260 white pill wednesday i'm bullish on um on the internet like i okay i'm just you know just gonna

01:01:36.980 be frank right so one of the questions that democrats have always been asking is who's

01:01:41.160 gonna pick the cotton right that's like and it has democrats like let's let's not you know get

01:01:46.080 our history wrong right so they well we can't release the slaves you know because we need

01:01:49.540 somebody to you know bring in the harvest and now it's the same thing we can't uh we can't export 1.00

01:01:54.900 immigrants and we have to have porous borders because we need somebody to go into you know

01:01:58.660 the oranges right pick oranges and uh democrats have literally like that has been their number

01:02:03.240 one concern is uh how can how can we have somebody uh who isn't white to uh to go and work the field

01:02:10.120 that is a democrat value it has been for a long time right so everybody's like you're a racist

01:02:16.060 well you know like let's but let's get our history right so whether it's slaves or whether

01:02:20.540 it's immigrants uh democrats have always been concerned about cheap free if you can or at

01:02:26.040 least cheap manual labor that said uh whether it's admin which is you know menial labor it's

01:02:33.700 not manual but it's menial labor whether it's um admin type jobs or like there's so much bureaucracy

01:02:39.740 like there are people so many people who are full-time employment um just to to write you a

01:02:46.580 will you know um and and now it's like oh well you can actually there's an app for that and there's

01:02:51.880 a this and like i can instead of hiring a lawyer for fifteen hundred dollars you know uh because

01:02:57.740 he's going to give me four and a half hours of his time and but i need him because because our

01:03:02.740 bureaucracy has made it so impossible they've made whether it's from tax code or to to this

01:03:08.480 legal language like no no one can do it they intentionally make it to where it's like a

01:03:14.460 learning a foreign language and and you have to have exactly the the dotted i's and the cross t's

01:03:19.600 in their way or it doesn't count and it's intentional it is to make sure that the layman

01:03:23.720 can't do it so that you have to uh pay someone else and you create this whole this whole wing

01:03:29.080 of of you know this whole field of of workers that that really are unnecessary well modern

01:03:36.100 innovation is getting rid of all that like elon musk we talked about him just recently i i have

01:03:42.460 some serious concerns but if he figures out robots now ai i i think there's a great chance you know

01:03:48.400 that um it ends up you know killing all of us so there's there's that you know so i'll be fair

01:03:52.840 downsides there are some downsides like the end of the human race you know that's entirely possible

01:03:56.720 it actually is um but in terms of narrow ai if it can be done well and i'm not i'm not necessarily

01:04:03.160 convinced it can but if it if it can um then then being able to have a bunch of robots

01:04:09.300 you know that are able to do manual labor type jobs um then yeah then like okay um millions

01:04:18.100 millions should go back period but now you know now definitely millions can come back tens of

01:04:23.960 millions tens of millions can go back and and you can strip away one just one more democrat excuse

01:04:29.600 of like yeah but who's gonna who's gonna work and pick the oranges you know and so uh well robots

01:04:35.100 are um there you go and so um and and then and then on top of that with all the all your hr 0.95

01:04:41.940 all your school moms you know doing um menial pencil pushing bean counting labor that like 1.00

01:04:50.680 really they don't do anything except for walk around and frown at men um and you know and make 1.00

01:04:56.660 the workplace hell on earth this statistic is shocking but like 65 of black women who graduate 0.70

01:05:01.500 college go into state or federal jobs yeah that's not 65 of these jobs are occupied by black women

01:05:06.880 but 65 65 college graduate every black woman that graduates as i understand it according to this

01:05:12.860 statistic go into state and federal jobs like the department of education which is that's that's 0.94

01:05:18.180 there's one there's one element we can get rid of all of that like if ai can take care of that

01:05:23.760 whether it's physical ai with robots and then it's you know things like chat gpt you know

01:05:27.980 continues to develop you can get rid of admin and you can get rid of the manual labor type jobs

01:05:32.440 um and then and then back to education like um all these different programs that you could

01:05:37.260 literally do for free at home so long as mom's able to be there too and dad can make a livable

01:05:42.600 wage a single income for his family then um you don't need any of this you you don't you don't 0.99

01:05:49.200 need a bunch of um you don't need illegal immigrants you don't need public schools you 1.00

01:05:54.380 don't like it could literally change the world like we could have you really could have like a 1.00

01:05:59.500 golden age in america the the one thing that we have to and i'm not i'm not saying it can't happen

01:06:04.620 but the one thing that we have to think about is we can't reduce the true purpose of education

01:06:10.140 to knowing math facts faster right yeah right part of the purpose of edgy and mom moms could 0.96

01:06:15.820 be trained say they could train the dad could get involved in this too but education has to train 0.93

01:06:21.300 in virtue in the affections all of these things and so um it can't just be ai is teaching my kid

01:06:27.420 geography and math facts faster that could be a tool but that's not the the root of what education

01:06:34.340 is however there are churches in india that um they're they're not wealthy churches but what

01:06:41.400 they've decided to do the the Indian government has put all of their curriculum online with videos

01:06:47.420 and what they have done is they've pooled resources and they said we're going to buy 15

01:06:52.500 tablets and then what we're going to do is we're just going to allow we can just take 15 right now

01:06:58.800 but we're going to allow 15 students to come they don't have anywhere to get internet they don't

01:07:02.640 have any sort of adult to supervise them because mom and dad are working these are very poor

01:07:07.180 conditions in india so they say we can take 15 students and they're tapping into even just the

01:07:11.640 secular indian curriculum and they're letting 15 kids just sit there on tablets and learn and it's

01:07:19.940 not perhaps the best option but it's actually having a dramatic increase in the population

01:07:26.000 of india that just over the country churches are just buying a couple tablets here and there

01:07:31.140 and students are getting educated kind of similar to what you're saying because it's out there it's

01:07:35.740 on the internet it's available um so that's cool yeah it's encouraging all right we'll hit our

01:07:42.120 second commercial break and uh we'll come back and uh i've got one or two more graphs to talk

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01:10:00.560 and all of finance for Christendom. All right. I want to, I want to hit one

01:10:07.220 common theme that is sometimes it seems like a knockout argument from people on the left,

01:10:13.920 And that is simply that, well, education is – the poor results of education in America clearly continue to show either systemic racism or class inequity, mistreatment of rich people to poor people.

01:10:33.280 And what I'm trying to make the case for here is – and it's a pretty simple case.

01:10:37.860 It's not that profound, but just money is not the issue in our education system right now.

01:10:42.480 It is not money.

01:10:43.440 in the last since 1960 uh education spending has increased 350 percent 350 percent since 1960 now

01:10:52.740 my um wife's grandmother is that a grandmother-in-law i don't even know what that is she

01:10:59.220 she only went to uh to school through seventh grade right she read the new york times every day 1.00

01:11:05.060 she did the new york times crossword puzzle every day she knew history geography she was

01:11:10.440 sharp as a tack mentally until the day she died at 92.

01:11:14.100 I mean, it was incredible.

01:11:15.400 Just like Joe Biden.

01:11:17.120 Sharp as a tack.

01:11:17.920 Her seventh grade education pre-1960 was, it served her in her entire life.

01:11:25.380 It prepared her to do everything that she needed to do.

01:11:28.320 Nate, let's go ahead and look at chart three.

01:11:32.020 This is the global education spending per pupil.

01:11:35.460 I mentioned this earlier, the one before that.

01:11:37.960 yep that's the one okay so the u.s spends an average of seventeen thousand dollars per year

01:11:45.820 on education um and uh up to twenty thousand dollars a year for secondary schools we're

01:11:50.680 second in the world luxembourg's the only one that's higher than us okay uh nate let's look

01:11:56.060 at chart number four that's the one that you had up just a moment ago um so this is 2024 just a

01:12:01.360 very basic metric, reading and math in American public schools. So the percentage of students

01:12:08.700 that were advanced, 4% of our students were advanced in reading, and 8% of them were advanced

01:12:14.640 in math. Proficient, like barely a quarter, less than a quarter in math. Basic, basic understanding

01:12:21.160 is still below the target, over a third of American public school students. And then below basic,

01:12:28.960 This is kids who are way below what they should be at to even be considered at grade level.

01:12:34.500 So we've had a 350% explosion in spending on education.

01:12:39.700 And last one, Nate, I think this one helps visualize it really well.

01:12:43.940 This is how much we're spending versus how well we've been doing.

01:12:47.180 So the red line is per pupil expenditure.

01:12:52.000 And you see that since 1975, it has just gone up and up and up.

01:12:55.560 and then you see how our performance has flatlined and then there was a dip and they're trying to say

01:13:02.320 that the dip is being corrected a little bit but basically we have nothing to show in improvement

01:13:07.500 in um result for the increase of money that we've been spending so when the argument comes up that

01:13:16.040 what we need to do is tax more and give more money i mean i think it's similar to the poverty i think

01:13:21.680 i've heard it's either three trillion or 30 trillion dollars have been spent to fight poverty

01:13:25.940 in america well at that point why didn't you just cut them all a check yeah you know like that's

01:13:31.880 that's astounding the amount of money being spent on education in the u.s is so high and what what

01:13:38.600 is interesting to me is that there's a lot of data showing that until about 1970 1975 education

01:13:45.600 results in minority groups and in white groups were increasing steadily. And from about that

01:13:52.840 point on, it's plateaued and gotten worse. And there is something to be said for the inner city,

01:13:58.620 minority populations, black populations, they're doing worse on average educationally. But my

01:14:03.980 mother-in-law taught at a white high school in eastern Washington. And she said by the end of

01:14:09.660 her career, she finally retired, not because she didn't have energy, but because she'd walk down

01:14:14.020 the hall and there's students making out in the hallway and when she would ask students to do 0.92

01:14:18.720 something they would swear like like this was a regular eastern washington public high school

01:14:25.520 and something has happened in our nation um it's not about funding education like our issues are

01:14:32.680 so much deeper than that when it comes to education we don't have a civic pride we don't

01:14:37.360 aspire to be great as a people anymore. This is where my heart goes out to teachers. I know

01:14:44.920 the chat was mixed on whether there are good teachers or bad teachers. There are a lot of

01:14:49.480 good teachers and there are a lot of bad teachers. But I know teachers personally, this is anecdotal,

01:14:54.480 who said, I'm no longer teaching. I'm parenting and I'm failing at parenting because the parents

01:15:00.940 at home are no longer parenting. So much of a teacher's day now is conflict management,

01:15:05.940 trying to keep the students from fighting um you want to talk about like giving an assignment and

01:15:11.120 expecting the students to actually do it and bring it back that is less and less likely yeah um and

01:15:16.780 so schools have really become um it's funny the same companies that design prisons are often

01:15:24.780 contracted to design schools because it's a lot of people in people out organized schools have

01:15:31.200 have stopped being schools in large part and they have just been corralling people managing them for

01:15:37.500 eight hours a day it's government child care yes it's a hundred percent yeah and so it's like you're

01:15:42.360 right so there's there's no hope in sight if um the school can't fix what god has ordained parents

01:15:48.480 to correct and so if parents aren't parenting and the first thing that you need um i mean there's a

01:15:53.580 million different things where parents need to repent um and be sanctified and grow uh but but

01:15:58.800 the first thing that you need is parents to be present right so for the first step towards

01:16:03.480 improvement in parenting is the parents have to you know actually even be there and you can't do

01:16:08.680 that because of our economy like so much of this is like a it's an economic nightmare that um

01:16:15.940 nobody you know hardly anybody can afford um to to actually have their wife be at home right and

01:16:24.040 And so the parents aren't there, so then they've got to do something with the kids.

01:16:28.860 So they put them in government child care.

01:16:31.860 And when every single kid is in government child care, and then they go to some after-school program,

01:16:37.920 and then they only see their parents for a few hours in the evening,

01:16:40.960 and both of them are exhausted from some kind of corporate job.

01:16:44.600 Mom hasn't been making the home.

01:16:46.280 She picks up fast food on the way home.

01:16:49.100 There's no home-cooked meal.

01:16:50.640 The house is disarrayed, and it's a wreck.

01:16:53.040 And both of the parents are tired and, you know, like, and the kids get virtually no attention.

01:17:00.740 And so they go from government, you know, child care with the school to now child care in the home by being in front of the television, you know.

01:17:07.460 And then with our television, because of Hollywood and media and entertainment, it's the most degenerate filth you could possibly imagine.

01:17:14.500 And then they take that filth back with them and spread it with all the other kids, you know, the next morning at school.

01:17:20.400 And if you can just break out of the system, which I want to be extremely compassionate because it's much easier said than done.

01:17:29.200 I know that that's hard.

01:17:30.460 Just financially, it's very, very hard to do.

01:17:34.680 But if you can break out of that mold by being a single income family and freeing your wife from the corporate world and having her at home,

01:17:47.100 Then you can, by having her at home, you can then free your children from public indoctrination, you know, camps, a.k.a. public schools.

01:17:58.080 And they can come back home and then having rules and having guidelines in the home.

01:18:03.760 Like, we're not going to watch, you know, filthy, degenerate TV shows.

01:18:07.680 And we're going to limit our screen time.

01:18:09.360 And we're going to learn.

01:18:10.240 And we're going to do this.

01:18:11.020 And we're going to do that.

01:18:11.640 and all of a sudden like your family your home becomes like an oasis in a desert um the rest of

01:18:18.740 the population still is declining in many ways but your family has sanity and warmth and joy

01:18:25.340 and um and you know the kids are all right you mentioned 1970 1975 that's also the period when

01:18:33.740 public trust began to decline even christianity well what came about five ten years before

01:18:38.620 civil rights act and heart cellar immigration act yep so high immigration and then and government

01:18:43.960 force and welfare and the welfare state lindaby johnson and uh forced uh not assimilation but

01:18:49.200 association that the government will tell you who you can associate not associate with those things

01:18:54.060 as they created the milieu and then you add the department of education on top of that in 79

01:18:58.360 that's what gets us to where we are today these different pieces coming together and then you

01:19:03.280 arrive at something and it's all well and good that you know like 10 of us we break off and form

01:19:07.360 our own christian classical school we homeschool we get the kids out in the woods but uh but

01:19:12.260 something's got to be done about millions and millions of people in the public schools and

01:19:15.640 what they're learning like you said joel the the filth that's swapped between them the lack of

01:19:20.340 education that they're getting so trump disbanding the department of education is great we've gone

01:19:26.120 over that that's awesome he needs to to gut it thoroughly hopefully congress will finish the job

01:19:30.060 but that was simply an edifice that manufactured or appeared on top of what was already the

01:19:38.120 crumbling foundation of a lack of a national cohesion and identity that again came on the

01:19:42.880 heels of hartzeller immigration act the civil rights act type of new constitution atop our

01:19:48.060 old constitution and so right read the age of entitlement by christopher carl it's a really

01:19:53.200 helpful book he's um he's very hinged he's not like flying off off the handle and uh but he

01:20:00.800 just talks about how the civil rights act was um it replaced it became a de facto constitution

01:20:06.600 yep and so um department of education has to go but there are deeper problems with education that

01:20:12.200 we have to address that ending that type of federal program is just not going to fix in to

01:20:16.680 some degree the department of education when you when you when you look at it from a big picture

01:20:22.320 like it actually is something of a logical attempt to deal with what was going on right in a different

01:20:27.460 time it could have worked well i'm not even saying in a different time it could have worked like

01:20:30.400 what they were seeing is like well they're like like when you get when you insist that everyone

01:20:37.940 be educated to the same degree i don't know i my point is because of the multiculturalism that we

01:20:45.360 have to hold things like that together you need big huge organizations like the department of

01:20:53.100 education that's all i'm trying to say and so while we're trying to while we're applauding

01:20:57.420 trump for trying to break that down you're right west there are deeper issues um at play so

01:21:02.480 we're gonna hit some questions we had a couple super chats earlier and um well

01:21:07.720 okay so west you want to read super chats here all right granddad farms a regular great friend

01:21:14.300 great supporter ten dollar super chat happy white pill wednesday from emmett idaho gentlemen thank

01:21:20.420 you very much granddad farms evan davies five year pounds euros euros no that's pounds five pounds

01:21:29.520 all right what does that convert to more than five dollars it's like based love it all right

01:21:35.480 uh evan davies probably said this thank you evan dabney said public schools inevitably become

01:21:41.260 secular he was prescient when he said that bibles and catechisms would be removed from the schools

01:21:46.640 yeah absolutely yeah dabney is incredible on women's rights and public education his prophetic

01:21:53.800 understanding of where all these things would go someday we're going to do an episode and it's

01:21:58.100 going to be two hours just reading based dabney quotes literally about education and women and

01:22:03.180 the home and all those different things yeah all right and then one more from neville he said

01:22:08.200 is it true that if the department of education were eliminated it would not shut down public

01:22:12.740 schools but the federal government would no longer influence curriculum policy etc yes yep exactly

01:22:18.560 the the education has always since very early on been run by states um that's basically what

01:22:27.020 would happen the public schools exist mostly because of state funding so they would continue

01:22:32.440 It would just, states technically even still control the curriculum.

01:22:38.180 So the Texas State Department of Education is what, and in fact, they authorized a Christian slanted curriculum as one of the available options for public schools to choose here in Texas.

01:22:51.120 They didn't mandate it.

01:22:52.080 There's several options.

01:22:52.900 But state-to-state can determine curriculum, it can determine graduation requirements, and it can determine accreditation.

01:23:03.600 What the federal government does, though, is it forces states to adopt policies, curriculum, and, well, like the policies of DEI or like kind of meta policies by playing with the funding that they offer.

01:23:23.960 So the public school would not be going away if Trump did this.

01:23:27.260 Nope.

01:23:27.440 Right. It would just return to the states, which seems to actually be a theme of his.

01:23:31.920 I remember even in covid, like he kept saying, I'm not doing a federal lockdown.

01:23:36.740 It's a state's issue. And the crazy thing about Trump, even as frustrating as it is with abortion, is he is a federalist through and through.

01:23:43.500 It's unbelievable how much of a federalist he is.

01:23:47.180 He returns things to the states. And that's that's a step in the right direction.

01:23:51.740 A serious step, which I'm really grateful for.

01:23:54.560 um somebody on here posted uh i can't remember which comment it was but said something along

01:24:00.780 the lines of like jfk uh files i was just thinking about that comment yeah jfk files epstein files

01:24:08.160 uh mlk uh files you know all these things that were promised and um it's kind of like the meme

01:24:14.180 the uh the pawn shot where it's like best i can do is uh more anti-semitism bills like and and it

01:24:21.440 is yeah it is frustrating i was blackpilling in the group chat yesterday joel you were there i 0.89

01:24:25.280 was like these immigration numbers like if we even average a thousand a day right they're pathetic

01:24:29.600 they're not great like we're fully aware to be fair on the jfk and the right now we're on track

01:24:35.960 i think for 1.5 million over trump's term which to be fair like he could ramp it up substantially

01:24:41.260 we want to give him a shot but 1.5 million is nothing right like 20 million probably came in

01:24:47.900 under biden just under biden i i've heard people say more like 30 yep but take the low estimate of

01:24:53.540 that 1.5 rounded up the two double it of people that self-deport you're at 20 percent of the

01:25:00.020 people that need to go back yep and that's charitable it'll probably be closer to best

01:25:04.300 case scenario at this rate best case scenario that's uh that's 20 with jfk and mlk they did

01:25:10.060 say it was going to be 45 days it's been i think yesterday was 46

01:25:13.960 it's white hill wednesday jordan i know yeah well here's what has to happen like and we always knew

01:25:21.340 this was the play guys guys look look we are kidding guys guys guys guys look there's a lot

01:25:26.540 of things that we want but we are getting more anti-semitism bills i mean let's go rfk jr

01:25:33.640 hey israel first that's what we voted for what do you think israel first meant

01:25:37.700 so we can count on that you know we can all be grateful those who bless israel will be blessed

01:25:44.580 ever since we've been blessing israel as a country i have seen nothing but us be blessed you know

01:25:49.460 like like everything that we're talking about our you know literacy has gone up right

01:25:53.540 incarceration has gone down lifespans have elongated iq has gone up since we've been

01:25:58.540 blessing israel everything has been heading in the right direction the blessing of multiculturalism

01:26:03.280 we've gotten that one in space yeah um i wasn't gonna say sorry oh but we always knew the play

01:26:09.680 was maga now which is cover fire for a new right-wing movement to come out of maga that's

01:26:15.200 always been the play and that still is the play that's and that's what we told people even you

01:26:19.720 know during the campaign and during you know the election cycle is we kept saying look if if we get

01:26:24.660 kamla you won't you won't have a bible believing christian within a 500 mile radius of of the

01:26:32.020 White House. Like you, you, you'll have zero access. If you get Trump, you get, uh, yeah, 0.70

01:26:37.500 you, you get AIPAC, um, and you also get Paula White. Um, but you also get, um, there are some,

01:26:44.720 some serious, and some of them I don't even want to name because some of it's a little bit, you

01:26:49.020 know, off the record, but there are, um, some serious evangelical Bible believing, deeply

01:26:55.720 conservative american first patriots um who have access to the most powerful man in the world

01:27:02.380 yep and uh and that wouldn't have happened any other way so there's the point is it doesn't fix

01:27:06.600 it the uh the point is that it gives um some reprieve so that we can build catch our breath

01:27:12.780 reinforce um you know re-fortify at a family private level and local communities and churches

01:27:19.920 But then second, it's not just reprieve, but it also gives at least a chance of what could maybe come out of it, what could come next.

01:27:29.820 I think MAGA, we talked about this on Monday, but MAGA won the day.

01:27:33.460 The left has been so thoroughly destroyed.

01:27:36.480 I mean, it's marvelous to witness.

01:27:38.880 It's beautiful.

01:27:40.500 There are just rivers of leftist tears.

01:27:43.200 It's amazing.

01:27:43.720 um but they're so thoroughly destroyed that um and and not just leftist uh but the neocons the

01:27:50.000 you know the the rhinos um are just like the jeb bushes of the world will never literally never see

01:27:56.560 see the light of day again yeah i mean it is amazing liz cheney she's gone you know the

01:28:02.640 bushes are gone um you know mitt romney's are gone and um and that's super encouraging so leftists

01:28:08.560 are gone and and neocons and rhinos are gone and so what you have is maga is maga um maga is not

01:28:16.060 the end game it's not the end solution uh maga gets you um a lot of great things but it also 0.69

01:28:22.040 gets you israel first it also gets you a ton of gay stuff it gets you still a ton of abortion it 0.67

01:28:27.780 gets you like no epstein files no epstein files no you know like because it probably let's be 0.79

01:28:32.980 honest it'll indict israel very likely that's that's my prediction and so um so that said um 0.65

01:28:40.500 maggot is not the solution but it's better than the neocons the rhinos and it's better than leftists 0.88

01:28:45.020 it is and um our two-party system i'm not even saying it's a good thing but it's not going to 0.91

01:28:50.240 go away and uh and so because maggot has so beaten out there were two parties and maggot just destroyed

01:28:56.400 both of them and so our prediction white pill wednesday our prediction that we said on monday

01:29:01.180 I'll repeat it now, is that MAGA will inevitably give birth to at least something. One other party

01:29:08.800 will come out of it. And right now what we have is we have an opportunity. So MAGA will continue

01:29:14.660 and the rhinos and the leftists are gone. So now it's one party, but we do have a two-party system

01:29:22.140 that something else will run against MAGA in 2028. But what we have for the first time ever is you

01:29:29.320 had two parties you had the leftist and then you had the rhinos and you have something to the right

01:29:33.220 of both of them is it far enough right no of course not it's not even but it but it's it was

01:29:38.180 an improvement further right than both leftist and the neocons that that gives you MAGA and now

01:29:43.920 we also have the opportunity for this next something has to come out and distinguish itself

01:29:48.840 from MAGA and it's possible that it could be to the right of MAGA and that's that's what I voted

01:29:56.100 for you know i think the three things it has to be i said this yesterday but uh male-led

01:30:00.280 anti-immigration anti-israel yeah those three things if we can get a right-wing party in the

01:30:05.380 next four years in the primaries where people represent that we're anti-israel we're anti-immigration

01:30:10.600 including legal and mostly male-led we can work with it yeah there's christian primarily

01:30:16.260 other different things and those are the three big words like i did a post just yesterday where

01:30:20.320 I said, you know, I'm, I'm regularly, you know, uh, labeled indicted as a racist and anti-Semite

01:30:26.940 and, uh, uh, a misogynist. I've had protesters at my house. Um, I've received, uh, ample, uh,

01:30:36.000 death threats, not just, Hey, I hate you. And I hope you die, but like, no, I'm coming for you. 0.99

01:30:40.700 This is what we're going to do to you, your wife, your children. Um, and yet I can, I can tell you, 1.00

01:30:46.780 I can assure you, you know, because people actually, right now, there's a pretty big,

01:30:50.720 you know, populist movement against Israel that's becoming mainstream.

01:30:55.260 It really is from Ian Carroll on Joe Rogan to Daryl Cooper on Tucker Carlson.

01:30:59.460 Daryl Cooper is going on Joe Rogan.

01:31:01.100 That's going to be coming out soon.

01:31:02.380 And so, and I'm here for it.

01:31:03.780 I'm down. 1.00

01:31:05.020 But out of those three things, you're a racist, you're an anti-Semi, you're a misogynist. 0.99

01:31:10.640 I can tell you from personal experience for multiple years now, the vitriol for that third 0.98

01:31:16.840 one, misogyny, sexist, being against feminism, that is by far the most intense. You go against

01:31:25.480 Israel, like people think if you go against Israel, that's the most cutting edge, that's

01:31:31.380 the most egregious thing. You go against Israel and about half of the country will agree with you. 0.94

01:31:37.340 everyone who's gen z whether they're on the left or the right will agree with you pretty much 0.96

01:31:40.860 everybody under the age of 45 it's like based right like they'll be in your dm saying yeah man

01:31:46.260 like you're one of the real ones yeah dude like um you actually get a lot of support like you go

01:31:51.240 against israel and all of a sudden your podcast numbers will boost uh you'll get more views you'll

01:31:56.220 get more donations like you you won't be invited to um some of the institutional gala yeah exactly

01:32:02.600 you won't like or cpac for that matter like you won't be invited to some of the institutional

01:32:06.260 stuff um but but all that's quickly changing all those things are they're older they're older and

01:32:13.500 and within 10 20 years um all these millennials and gen z that's i mean that those will be the

01:32:20.300 leaders in the nation and the gravy train for israel is coming to a screeching halt and everybody 0.91

01:32:25.720 knows it and that's why they're well that's why they're screeching that's why they're freaking 0.99

01:32:29.380 out and so my point is i'm not saying there's there's no pushback there i've gotten plenty

01:32:32.620 a pushback for my alleged anti-semitism um and and wanting to stop immigration you know my alleged

01:32:39.260 you know racism um being against multiculturalism um but the biggest the the biggest one where you

01:32:46.780 get the least support in my opinion where like when i think of like where what is america

01:32:50.460 potentially ready for or could do or could be ready for in 10 years from now you know or or 20

01:32:56.040 years from now um male-led that's the only reason i'm bringing up you said three things against

01:33:01.640 immigration against israel and mail-led we're not even close to that third one i will give a white

01:33:07.360 pill uh we were at an event and i was talking to a guy who knows the president of a conservative

01:33:13.440 group here in texas that is big and he said privately the president and all them like yeah

01:33:17.500 women shouldn't vote now they're not going on the record because they realize right now that's not

01:33:21.240 tactical right but i wouldn't be surprised if the iceberg of people that are saying it out loud 1.00

01:33:25.240 and then the people that are influential and they think it they can tell the overton window is not

01:33:29.040 there yet i would bet in the next five ten years a lot more of those people that we begin to see

01:33:33.140 like oh actually underneath 30 40 percent of the population agreed with this you're taking the first

01:33:39.080 bit of heat you know is the first the first one to stand up and say hey the emperor has no clothes

01:33:43.940 but i don't know i've heard of very influential people privately politically influential you're

01:33:49.200 right and that is encouraging but i guess what i would say you're right um no certainly i'm

01:33:54.480 Post-millennial, I'm hopeful. So I think that we're going to have a return to things that are right. And having our sovereign nation that's not controlled by any foreign entity or body is morally right. It doesn't even mean that you have to be against Israel. That's not what I'm saying.

01:34:14.920 But what I am saying is that we should not, we should not be controlled by a foreign entity. Like the fact that every, every federal, you know, constituent has an APAC handler except for Thomas Massey is insane. That's absolutely insane. So my point is, you're right, that's encouraging.

01:34:33.540 So I guess what I would say is I think like 10 years from now, we'll be able to clinch some of these things on like not just that it's there's some popularity in the mainstream and in the discourse, but we'll be able to clinch like real victories over being America first instead of Israel first and really being against immigration.

01:34:54.080 um but i think you know 10 years from now when we're clinching those victories uh we'll just

01:35:00.060 we'll just then be at the point of being able to the conversations we're having today about israel

01:35:06.360 um i think 10 years from now we'll we'll have achieved some things there um but we'll be at

01:35:12.440 the level of just having those conversations about um male leadership jeff halfley that's a good

01:35:17.460 point it's in a super chat and a great point jeff 499 thank you joel's point jews represent

01:35:22.780 two percent of the population blacks represent 12 of the population but women represent over 50

01:35:28.120 he's absolutely right that's my point is like like um when you think when you think about it 0.99

01:35:33.700 it's like because if i come out and i say something about israel like there's there's you know there'll

01:35:38.140 be a bunch of you know a bunch of women who you know will flock into the comments you know on on

01:35:43.980 x and be like yeah you're one of the real ones i appreciate your courage and you know like i mean 0.99

01:35:51.260 right now like we oh man i'm gonna say but like we have a lot of loud women our nation is filled 0.72

01:35:58.840 with like it is it's it's a gyneocracy it's like we are the leadership is either is either female 0.95

01:36:06.120 or female adjacent at like there is no ascendancy to real positions of power in our nation apart 0.79

01:36:14.340 from being a woman or being adjacent to what like being pro woman um and uh that's and like

01:36:21.900 everything in the church the nation is just it's just a representative of the church and and vice

01:36:27.900 versa like the church appeals to feminine sensibilities uh christianity has been warped

01:36:35.220 and and twisted to it's been feminized um that's that's why someone like andrew tate who none of us

01:36:41.960 support we think that he's a degenerate but part of his part of his popularity in his ascendancy

01:36:48.260 is you know you think of like he you know he's this young man he wants to be masculine um he's

01:36:54.340 he's a terrible sinner there's no question about that he's he's not virtuous but he wants to be

01:36:59.680 masculine and and then he realizes okay like being agnostic or atheist you know secular he realizes 0.98

01:37:05.780 secularism is not masculine it's gay um and so he realizes like okay like you can't really it's a 0.81

01:37:11.720 you're a walking um contradiction it's it's irony um it to to try to be masculine and not be 0.90

01:37:19.240 religious so then so then he looks at the religious landscape and and which religion does he adopt 0.77

01:37:23.980 islam because islam at least has some appearance of of a muscular masculine you know and christianity

01:37:33.600 is western it's been modernized and feminized and um and so yeah so i think jeff halfley 0.96

01:37:40.720 I think it's a numbers game

01:37:42.660 I really do

01:37:43.380 when you're saying

01:37:45.860 hey we shouldn't be sending billions

01:37:48.720 of our tax dollars to Israel

01:37:50.680 and Israel

01:37:53.020 makes up 2%

01:37:54.060 Jews make up 2% of our population

01:37:56.220 you can actually get a groundswell of support for that

01:37:58.700 you know what I mean

01:37:59.620 you're talking 98%

01:38:01.640 this is what you're trying to sell

01:38:03.020 you're basically saying hey 98% of the population of America

01:38:05.840 would you like to keep more of your money

01:38:07.360 like that's not that controversial

01:38:10.420 right it's not like it's it's really only controversial to a bunch of boomers who are

01:38:14.620 going to be gone in 10 years you know and they still hold the institution so so they appear to

01:38:18.900 have like more of a voice it appears like there's more people you know behind them than there really 0.86

01:38:23.100 is but it's boomers and dispensationalists that's that's all it is and that and that's a lot of

01:38:27.840 people but but like dispensationalism is on its way out boomers are on their way out and uh and

01:38:33.860 so that landscape is going to change rapidly and then all it's going to be is 98 of the country 0.55

01:38:38.660 that would like to pay less in taxes

01:38:40.720 and 2% of the country that's saying,

01:38:42.400 well, we're your greatest ally

01:38:43.640 and yet anybody with eyes can tell

01:38:45.660 this has never been a mutual relationship.

01:38:47.660 So that's an easy win.

01:38:50.060 That's an easy win.

01:38:51.020 And then beyond that, you look at immigration

01:38:53.220 and it's like, hey, would you like to keep your country?

01:38:56.400 And again, that one's money too.

01:38:59.780 You're paying tax dollars for immigrants.

01:39:03.160 You are paying for their healthcare.

01:39:05.000 You're paying for their housing.

01:39:06.120 You're paying for this.

01:39:06.920 They're not paying taxes. 1.00

01:39:08.660 people who are illegally coming into the country. 1.00

01:39:11.360 And so that's an easy win in many ways. 1.00

01:39:15.720 But to say then, because now you're talking about your core citizenship.

01:39:21.600 You're talking about heritage Americans.

01:39:23.220 You're talking about 50% of them, technically 51%, I think, last time I checked.

01:39:29.040 Hey, also, by the way, half of you patriots, who we love and appreciate greatly,

01:39:37.420 we love and appreciate you greatly um we also would love for you to go home

01:39:42.340 that dog won't hunt that's that's where i get in trouble like seriously even the people who

01:39:50.540 hate me for you know alleged anti-semitism and alleged racism um i i promise because i

01:39:56.900 sat here and watched the sequence of events over the last you know few years um what put me on the

01:40:02.700 map um because most of them are are you know they they when it comes to racism or anti-semitism

01:40:09.080 it's very clearly because i'll have the disclaimers i'll say this i'll say that um it's so clearly a

01:40:14.940 um a confirmation bias it's a bad faith uh hearing bad faith listening um and and i'm like what but

01:40:22.420 why why is there why did people start with like their starting disposition was um to just assume

01:40:29.860 that i'm nefarious to assume that i'm racist or assume that i'm anti-semitic and blah blah blah

01:40:34.720 especially as there's simultaneously it's like such a groundswell of support for joe rogan and

01:40:39.380 tucker carlson all these other guys who are stepping out um and saying the same things i'm

01:40:43.640 not i'm not i haven't said anything further than tucker carlson has tucker carlson is mainstream

01:40:48.040 as it gets on on the the jewish question or whatever like and and then i realized oh that's

01:40:54.880 because I got on the naughty list first, and they've never made these statements. I was first

01:41:02.500 on the naughty list, not for alleged anti-Semitism or alleged racism, but for alleged misogyny.

01:41:10.800 My positions on biblical gender roles between male and female, that's what got me on the naughty

01:41:18.140 list. And so anyway, so I think all that back to, you know, the white pill, like MAGA has beat,

01:41:24.780 it's to the right of both leftist and the rhinos, and it's definitively crushed both of those

01:41:32.020 parties. But because we have a two party system, something will emerge. And, and the hope is that

01:41:38.600 something would emerge to the right of MAGA. And, and the way to distinguish yourself to have a lot

01:41:44.880 the best of MAGA, to keep the good, because that's the only way it would stand a chance,

01:41:49.400 and it should keep the good, because if it's good, it's good. All truth is God's truth.

01:41:52.620 So keep the good, but still be clearly distinct to where it's like, it makes sense why so-and-so

01:41:59.020 is running against, you know, whoever the MAGA successor is. The way to distinguish, I think,

01:42:04.700 is, you're right, Wes, on those three issues, stricter on immigration, a, like, very strict

01:42:11.640 policy on israel like like to the point of like no dual citizenship for uh for congress and for

01:42:17.420 the senate like um no you're an american citizen only you want to serve here you need to give up

01:42:22.800 your citizenship um in another country uh we demand fidelity and uh single allegiance to

01:42:28.900 america first uh we're not sending billions of dollars anymore we're not doing this no more

01:42:32.740 apac that's disbanded the adl you're done like no no influence in america like those guys and

01:42:38.060 I think you could do that. And that would be distinct from MAGA because MAGA is very, very much

01:42:43.640 Israel first, you know, but you could do that. And I think you'd have mass appeal and mass

01:42:50.100 popularity. And then I think you could be even stronger than Trump on immigration. He's had good

01:42:56.120 rhetoric, but his numbers as of now, maybe they pick up, but as of now are not impressive. Biden,

01:43:01.200 not biden but uh obama deported more people like obama deported more people so um so you could

01:43:08.820 distinguish yourself on both of those but if the third piece is and also um unapologetically

01:43:14.180 masculine uh that's that's where uh you don't currently in my assessment you don't have the

01:43:20.540 american base to support that that one um that's where you need your joel weapons um for another

01:43:28.000 decade to keep pushing the overton until until the people are ready any any other super chats

01:43:33.560 jeff asked 499 a different one thanks jeff he said when you say a new party do you mean like

01:43:38.040 the dems will rebrand like they did with carter in 76 and clinton in 92 yes exactly it's too hard

01:43:44.300 to form a new party to win any type of constituency at the state and the federal level right it's

01:43:48.340 going to have to be under the banner of the republican party but as trump showed you can

01:43:51.920 move it and you can rebrand so 100 jeff great great to point out logan howlett

01:43:57.460 came in with super chat ten dollars thanks logan he said i love you guys post no reform let's go 0.96

01:44:03.080 my only disagreement with you is israel islam is over 10 times as large and violent we should 0.99

01:44:08.120 stop sending them money but i pray god saves them yeah so we are no fans of islam islam has been a 1.00

01:44:15.000 horrendous enemy of the church for what 13 1400 years like we we are uh we're fans of the crusades 1.00

01:44:22.260 You know, we've been Raymond, Ibrahim, Maxine, you know, like reading, you know, Defenders of the West and, you know, Swords and Scimitar and all those, all those works and appreciate King Alfred and appreciate, you know, Duke Gregory and all the guys, Skanderbeg. 0.97

01:44:40.040 And so, we recognize that still today, and then historically especially, like anybody who's cozying up to Islam, like, so if you're getting red-pilled on Judaism to the point where you now think that Muslims are your friend, then you've lost the thread.

01:44:56.880 um you like you you need to you need to look at a little bit of history so with you 100 percent um 0.84

01:45:02.660 uh islam is a formidable long-standing centuries old enemy of christ and his church and um and 0.87

01:45:11.760 right now is slaughtering christians in syria um so absolutely so uh it's kind of like the meme you 1.00

01:45:18.820 know the little girl who's like why not both you know so like when it comes to uh my distaste um

01:45:25.120 I'm an equal offender. 0.94

01:45:26.820 I have plenty of room in my heart to despise Islam and despise Judaism because, and here's 1.00

01:45:36.060 the point, I would never say that, yeah, you know, Jews are blatantly and overtly killing 1.00

01:45:45.120 Christians the way that Muslims are. 0.97

01:45:47.320 That's just not true. 0.99

01:45:48.360 Statistically, you can't bear that out.

01:45:50.080 And anybody who would try to make that argument, that's when it's like, okay, this person is biased, and you're not going to be taken seriously.

01:45:57.360 So that's not the case.

01:45:58.780 However, I would say that Israel was integral in our dismantling, like, so was America. 0.78

01:46:05.040 So I'm not saying America wasn't involved. 0.76

01:46:06.880 But in many ways, you could draw an argument that it's America's subservience to Israel and our partnership with Israel,

01:46:12.800 and Israel's insistence that removed Assad that ultimately,

01:46:18.620 and to Donald Trump's credit, he said this years ago.

01:46:21.320 There's a clip that's been going around where he's like,

01:46:23.140 why do we do this?

01:46:23.920 We go in because there's a bad guy in foreign affairs

01:46:26.760 and we involve ourselves in matters that aren't our business

01:46:29.980 on the other side of the planet.

01:46:31.660 And we remove somebody because we think that they're bad

01:46:34.160 because they don't support our sacred democracy.

01:46:37.000 And then nine times out of ten, they get replaced by somebody worse.

01:46:40.860 like Assad 0.91

01:46:41.960 he wasn't a Christian

01:46:45.060 he didn't necessarily like Christians

01:46:47.120 but he was a little bit more agnostic

01:46:49.120 on the issue

01:46:49.740 he didn't care a whole lot

01:46:52.080 and now what he's been replaced with

01:46:53.980 Muslim leadership in Syria 0.95

01:46:56.380 is they're chopping off 1.00

01:46:58.820 Christians heads 0.99

01:46:59.560 like I just saw pictures of a guy 1.00

01:47:02.160 who refused to remove his cross

01:47:04.060 and deny Christ

01:47:05.000 and he's sitting there crying

01:47:07.180 and he's clinging to his cross

01:47:08.540 he's a Christian brother in Christ

01:47:10.100 We love him. We're going to be in heaven with that guy forever. And he lost his head because

01:47:14.700 he refused to bow the knee to Allah and to worship demon gods. And he held true to the end. The one 0.92

01:47:22.340 who perseveres to the end will receive the crown of life. Thank you, God, for these bold Christians

01:47:29.000 in Syria. Real quick, let me pray. Father, please be with our Christian brothers and sisters in

01:47:33.820 Syria. Protect them, guide them, and spare them, Lord. In the name of Jesus, amen. Here's my point. 0.99

01:47:40.880 My point is, that's Islam, but that is also Israel. Israel, I'm just going to say it, 0.66

01:47:50.480 Islam chops the heads off of Christians. Israel opens the door for Islam to do that. 1.00

01:47:56.960 one is an overt enemy of the church one is a subvert enemy of the church and they do work 0.95

01:48:04.520 in concert many times many times and so one is a more obvious enemy and because it's true and 0.92

01:48:12.480 obvious we shouldn't ever pretend that like islam's not really the problem it's just the 0.93

01:48:16.280 jews that that's not true islam is a massive problem it has been for centuries it will continue 1.00

01:48:21.620 to be until Christ gives us the grace to conquer and hopefully for many to convert 0.99

01:48:28.580 Muslims who have been made in the image of God, that many of them would convert and become

01:48:35.700 Christians. And until that day comes, Islam has been and will continue to be a formidable, 1.00

01:48:42.240 one of the most powerful and violent enemies of Christian peoples and Christian countries and 1.00

01:48:49.840 Christian nations and the great Christian Western tradition. And there's no denying that. 1.00

01:48:55.940 That's overt. That's obvious. But what's subvert and subtle is that Israel has had a hand in that.

01:49:05.300 And that's not quite as obvious and not quite as apparent. But Israel doesn't do the beheading,

01:49:14.020 but what they do is in their own self-preservation. And I'm not even saying 0.83

01:49:18.240 that it's always sinister motives or something like that. Certainly, I wouldn't say that for

01:49:21.620 each and every Jew, you know, but it may be sinister motives for many in positions of power 0.73

01:49:26.240 and leadership for elites in Israel, but even for the elites. We talked about this last week. 0.87

01:49:33.080 There's sin, Peter, in one of his epistles, he talks about sin which is common to man. Well,

01:49:38.520 like there are common desires. It's not always that people, you know, some secret cabal where

01:49:42.600 people get together and it's meticulous and it's intentional and it's coordinated. Sometimes

01:49:48.020 I would argue oftentimes it's just clear, common incentives that every single sinner, fallen people,

01:49:56.920 apart from grace that's found in Christ alone, have the same sinful motives. And some of the

01:50:05.540 motives aren't even inherently sinful. And so, for Israel, a lot of it is self-preservation.

01:50:10.060 We, the United States and other Western countries, Great Britain, we chose deliberately,

01:50:16.320 wouldn't have happened without us. We chose to create a nation state in 1948 and to plop it down

01:50:24.320 right in the middle of a sea of Muslims. Like, like we, I mean, surely we could have known 1.00

01:50:32.240 that that was going to be a recipe for unending war, forever wars. It all ties back to that.

01:50:40.840 It really does. You take a group of non-Muslims who don't like Muslims, and you put them in a sea of Muslim countries and displace a bunch of Muslim people, and yeah, that's a recipe for disaster. It's not going to go well. 1.00

01:51:02.280 And so then in the name of self-preservation, which I get, I'm not even, I'm not, I'm not

01:51:06.800 even demonizing that, but like Jews, they, like they have a right to, to, to, to defense 0.98

01:51:13.980 and to self-preserve, but then in that self-preservation, they are going to rope in their

01:51:21.020 Western allies, um, to, to help them take out threats to them, but then, but then at

01:51:29.060 times, not always, but at times, some of those threats to them get taken out and then replaced

01:51:33.860 with someone who is actually a greater threat to Christians in places like Syria. And so Jews are 0.99

01:51:40.640 preserved and Christian Syrians are in jeopardy. And that has happened again and again and again

01:51:47.580 and again. And so in that sense, none of our stuff on Israel should ever be interpreted for us to say,

01:51:54.140 you know, so there's this little thing called Islam and that's not really a big deal, you know, 0.90

01:51:57.580 and then there's the jews no that's that's ridiculous if you want to get faithful pastor 0.96

01:52:02.660 out of the pulpit which all false religions hate the proper teaching of the word there is the 0.98

01:52:06.860 bomb the church now that's defended physically you have a security force but another way to do 0.86

01:52:12.000 it is to get anti-semitism laws into the books and have the state do it both are attacks on the

01:52:18.000 church that's right one is through the front door and honestly probably more easily repelled the

01:52:22.360 other one is backdoor dealings and money and donations and then the state goes and does the

01:52:26.860 thing so you don't even have to get your hands dirty and the christians stuck under the the

01:52:31.180 the command of romans 13 obey to the state and they're like well shoot like the state saying this

01:52:36.120 the state's doing the dirty work of subverting it's just different strategies different tactics

01:52:41.880 one is you're right overt and and through the front door and the other is through the back

01:52:46.680 you could say tunneling under the floorboard so to speak but but we saw those bills last year i

01:52:51.500 I remember looking at the bills and then looking, you know, like, okay, so, you know, if this bill passes about, you know, anti-Semitism and Speaker Mike Johnson was right at the front of it.

01:53:02.820 And if this passes, I remember looking like, okay, but like, who defines anti-Semitism?

01:53:07.640 And it's a foreign body.

01:53:09.140 It's not even our own civil magistrates.

01:53:10.800 It's this old foreign body definition that has all sorts of things.

01:53:13.940 It's like a group of Jewish people that aren't even a part of our country now defining for us what constitutes anti-Semitism.

01:53:24.320 And so, then I looked at the definition.

01:53:25.680 I pulled up the website, and it gave multiple different examples.

01:53:29.800 But one of the examples that was given, if it was consistently applied, and I don't know how they would apply it, but if it was consistently applied,

01:53:39.780 um you would there are certain bible verses that not not just you couldn't take a certain

01:53:45.320 interpretation you couldn't read them like there there were whole swaths of the bible that would

01:53:50.360 be a breach of what they were purporting in this bill um like like i think of what is it first

01:53:56.560 thessalonians chapter 2 um or it might be second thessalonians 2 yeah that says like that talks

01:54:03.420 about like the jewish people who who killed um the prophets killed the uh um the lord jesus are 0.57

01:54:10.820 persecuting us and have become um opponents of all mankind it is basically what the verse says 0.70

01:54:18.280 and according to this bill if it had passed uh you could not say that the jews it would be a valid

01:54:24.860 category for discrimination so if you had someone in your office or you employed them and then you

01:54:30.880 said something like that they could then sue but as we all know be it taxes or be a department of

01:54:35.940 education once something gets into law it never just stays there like oh well this will only be

01:54:39.880 used for discrimination it gets a foothold it's it's subtle at first but then it just builds out

01:54:44.260 like that's why you have to resist it yeah yeah and so so then all the and and yeah so like that

01:54:49.940 was one of the clear things that it specified that even if it was scripture if you're saying

01:54:53.560 that the jews killed jesus and then you know and you saw all the discourse on social media well

01:54:57.880 well, the Jews didn't kill Jesus, the Romans did. Here's the deal. I said it then, I'll say it again 0.80

01:55:03.400 right now, but there's at least four or five, biblically speaking, who killed Jesus. The Father

01:55:09.180 killed Jesus. He was pleased to crush him before the foundations of the world were laid. The Father

01:55:13.940 ordained the death of Jesus. So, there's a sense in which the Father killed Jesus and poured out

01:55:17.660 his wrath on Christ on the cross. You could also say Jesus killed Jesus. Jesus says in the Gospel

01:55:23.040 of John. No man takes my life from me, but I freely lay it down. You couldn't kill Jesus

01:55:28.760 unless he allowed it to happen by choosing to submit to his Father's will. So, God the Father

01:55:34.100 killed Jesus. Jesus killed Jesus. You killed Jesus. You and I, we killed Jesus because it's 0.64

01:55:40.600 only our sin that made his death necessary. Behold, here comes the Lamb of God who takes

01:55:45.480 away the sins of the world. So, we killed Jesus. Also, the Romans killed Jesus in the literal 0.87

01:55:51.180 physical sins. They were the ones who drove the nails through his hands. And Pilate killed Jesus, 0.83

01:55:56.920 right? So, that was a fifth example. He tried to wash his hands of the guilt, you know, but at the

01:56:01.500 end of the day, it couldn't have been done without him. The Jews, according to their law, they 0.95

01:56:05.840 couldn't do it. They needed the Romans to execute Jesus for them. And so, they gave it to Pilate, 0.76

01:56:11.440 and he was up for re-election in this district that had a lot of, you know, Jewish people in

01:56:15.640 his district. He wanted to be re-elected. He wanted favoritism, you know, politically speaking.

01:56:20.440 And so, he said, well, I find no fault in him, but he still ultimately pulled the trigger

01:56:24.780 and allowed it to happen and made that decision.

01:56:28.160 So, God the Father, by providence, by ordination, killed Jesus.

01:56:31.740 Jesus, by laying down his own life, killed Jesus.

01:56:34.160 You and I killed Jesus by our sin. 0.79

01:56:36.500 The Romans killed Jesus by physically driving the nails through his hands and the spear 0.73

01:56:40.320 in his side, but he was already dead.

01:56:43.320 Pilate killed Jesus by ultimately having the political authority to make the decision,

01:56:47.520 and he did make the decision. 0.85

01:56:48.620 And also the Jews killed Jesus by trapping him, by producing a kangaroo court in the middle of the night, producing false witnesses, stirring up the crowds with animus against him, crying out, crucify him, crucify him, give us Barabbas, give us Barabbas, not Jesus, crucify him. 0.86

01:57:06.460 So the Jews also killed Jesus. 0.88

01:57:08.840 And here's my point. 1.00

01:57:10.060 All those statements are true.

01:57:11.820 So it's not that I'm taking one statement over the other.

01:57:15.180 All those statements are true.

01:57:16.440 um but but only one of those statements has been threatened to become illegal

01:57:21.520 that's the point like that's the point of attack that's the point of attack exactly if if there

01:57:27.900 was a bill on the books that was they were going to say um it is illegal to say that um that uh

01:57:34.800 that individual people's sin is what killed jesus by making his death necessary then i would be

01:57:41.640 objecting to that. That's the heart of the gospel. I'd be objecting to that. I'm going to object

01:57:47.080 to any kind of bill and proposed legislation, especially from a foreign body that seeks to 1.00

01:57:54.800 dictate the truth of God's Word and tells me what I can and can't say, especially when it's things

01:58:01.040 in the Bible. And so, Wes is absolutely right. There are cases where Muslims will shoot up

01:58:07.160 churches. That's overt threat. Um, and then there are cases where, uh, Jews, not all Jews, but some 0.99

01:58:14.880 Jews will, um, they won't, uh, they won't show up physically and shoot up a church, uh, but they try 0.88

01:58:20.440 to push legislation, um, that where you would have to rip, you know, portions of, of, of the 0.99

01:58:27.240 Thessalonians out of your Bible. And that's also, um, a threat to the church. And so that's, that's

01:58:33.280 the point. In your noticing, don't ever come to the point where you're like, yeah, Islam's probably

01:58:43.960 not that bad. No, Islam is a formidable, longstanding enemy of the church, and it is a 1.00

01:58:50.260 threat to everything that we know and love and hold dear. But so is Judaism. It is. And the latter, 1.00

01:59:01.520 namely Judaism, seems to be far less talked about in America, and that's part of why we've given

01:59:08.980 it some of the attention that we have. Okay, well, I think that's it for today. Thank you

01:59:13.320 guys for tuning in, and we hope to see you again next week. God bless.

01:59:31.520 Thank you.

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