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00:00:26.820 donald trump is federalizing dc i can think of a few more cities in the union that might need a

00:00:36.500 little bit of this extra care as well detroit comes to mind atlanta comes to mind los angeles

00:00:41.620 certainly comes to mind i wouldn't mind even you know with san francisco i think there's a few

00:00:46.040 a few mainline protestant churches that need to have their property seized you know there's a

00:00:50.820 few different things you know law and order it needs let's make law and order great again

00:00:55.360 That's what we're going to be talking about on this episode. 0.91

00:00:58.200 D.C. has long been an absolute poop hole. 0.96

00:01:03.500 I will say that. 1.00

00:01:05.020 It is a terrible place.

00:01:07.360 Everybody knows that.

00:01:08.300 Absolutely terrible place.

00:01:09.820 And not just because of the politicians.

00:01:11.680 I mean, that already makes it terrible.

00:01:13.720 But beyond that, just the degree of crime,

00:01:16.720 and not just the crimes being committed by congressmen,

00:01:19.200 but crimes on the streets.

00:01:21.020 There's the high-level treasonous crimes, of course.

00:01:23.760 got to figure those out. But there's also the petty crimes on the street, like stealing people's

00:01:28.480 car or pushing someone into a subway and killing them, those kinds of things, stealing people's

00:01:34.780 kids. It's out of control. And Donald Trump is right to do something to take the city back. 0.97

00:01:41.320 And hopefully this can become a kind of the guinea pig in a larger national equation where

00:01:49.500 the federal government goes to certain states and cities that ultimately are refusing to instill

00:01:56.500 law and order and say, all right, well, if you won't do it, then we will. That's what we're

00:02:00.100 going to be talking about in this episode. Tune in now. All right. So I think this is a pretty

00:02:14.300 interesting one i think uh for the left certainly the democrats uh they this this story has really

00:02:19.920 uh alarmed them i think more we'll talk about why it's alarming them probably more than it ought to

00:02:25.020 but in the sense that they've always accused trump of being an authoritarian and here we see

00:02:29.780 the militarization of um you know the district of columbia and they're like okay this is this is it

00:02:35.240 this is him planning to really it's happening guys it's happening finally um but in reality

00:02:41.120 And I think it would be a little fun exercise to talk a little bit about why this is really a no-brainer.

00:02:46.320 I think specifically with D.C., this is straight out of the Constitution.

00:02:51.140 This is totally within the remit of the executive branch to do, and Trump knows that.

00:02:56.820 And so I think this is a really powerful move to get some political capital.

00:03:00.120 This was actually included in the 2024 campaign or party platform for the Republican Party was to retake, I think it was language akin to retaking the federal district or retaking D.C.

00:03:15.500 And so obviously it's, I think, particular for politicians who have to live in this place and all of the bureaucrats who have to deal with these things.

00:03:25.220 They're getting mugged as they're going to their cars.

00:03:27.020 They're getting things stolen out of their vehicles, so on and so forth.

00:03:29.940 there are total you know complete wards of dc that are just you can't even i mean just wouldn't

00:03:36.280 be wise to visit um you know we'll talk about homicide the homicide rate and so on and so forth

00:03:41.160 which are true it's truly third world stuff um and so all of this is going on and trump uh trump

00:03:47.400 is staying true to the party platform and saying enough is enough we're going to deploy 800 national

00:03:52.600 Guard troops. We have plans to potentially deploy active duty troops as well. And I think the last

00:04:00.420 thing he said, which really freaked people out was, and I'm also considering doing this in places

00:04:05.180 like Baltimore. And I think New York was another one, so on and so forth. So like you mentioned,

00:04:10.960 Joel, this could really become the blueprint for what it looks like to retake some of our

00:04:15.280 great American cities. And so I think we should just open it up. We have a couple clips we'll

00:04:20.160 watch from the press conference that was given this morning. One is from Trump, and then we'll

00:04:23.880 watch another one from Hexeth. It should be pretty short. So let's look at the one from Trump and see

00:04:28.560 what he had to say. We have other cities that are very bad. New York has a problem. And then you

00:04:34.560 have, of course, Baltimore and Oakland. We don't even mention that anymore. They're so far gone.

00:04:41.300 We're not going to let it happen. We're not going to lose our cities over this.

00:04:44.060 and this will go further we're starting very strongly with dc and we're going to clean it

00:04:51.140 up real quick very quickly as they say the way he talks yeah very quick very quickly and then let's

00:05:01.140 before we really start to open it up let's look at the hexeth one too because i think one hexeth

00:05:05.600 brings a little bit more energy energy to this thing obviously partly because it's sort of in

00:05:10.460 his sort of purview. But let's look at this clip from from Hegseth. At your direction this morning,

00:05:17.700 we've mobilized the D.C. National Guard. It'll be operationalized by the Secretary of the Army,

00:05:22.080 Dan Driscoll, through the D.C. Guard. You will see them flowing into the streets of Washington

00:05:26.780 in the coming week. At your direction as well, sir, there are other units we are prepared to

00:05:31.340 bring in. Other National Guard units, other specialized units, they will be strong,

00:05:35.820 they will be tough and they will stand with their law enforcement partners this is nothing new for

00:05:40.780 dod as the president noted at the border we've got 10 000 troops down there who've been operating

00:05:47.140 in defense cooperation areas defense zones where there's zero zero illegal crossings because of

00:05:55.020 troops on strikers scanning the border we've been protecting other people's borders for 20 years

00:05:59.600 it's about time we protect our own and we're working with ice and cbp in los angeles we did

00:06:05.520 the same thing working with the california national guard working with ice officers ice

00:06:10.280 officers deserve to do their job and not be attacked we will work alongside all dc police

00:06:17.160 and federal law enforcement to ensure this city is safe this city is beautiful and as i always say

00:06:24.320 about president trump to the troops he has their back and my message to the national guard and

00:06:28.740 federal law enforcement in washington is we have your back as well be tough be strong we're right

00:06:34.240 behind it. I like the comment just Christian Imperialist left. D.C. is a ghetto. It's a

00:06:40.560 historical icon of the West. I mean, we are the premier nation in the world. We're the biggest,

00:06:45.700 we're the best. And it looks like garbage go to the capital city of any other country and they 0.92

00:06:49.580 protect the beauty of those places. And we do not. I think he's absolutely right. It's a shame

00:06:53.500 that our capital city of America is dangerous and a trash heap. Yeah, I remember like the exact 0.94

00:06:59.660 opposite rhetoric was used by many you know allegedly conservative individuals um even

00:07:07.780 conservative pastors even reformed pastors uh in regards to russia but it was the exact opposite

00:07:13.800 so there's you know when tucker remember when tucker went there and he filmed you know he

00:07:17.180 visited russia he interviewed putin and he filmed the subway and he's like what in the world is

00:07:21.980 going on this is like this is pristine right you could eat off the ground in the subway you know

00:07:27.120 it's beautiful the architecture the painting um all all the beauty um and then he showed you know

00:07:32.980 the capital in in russia and showed capital buildings and this monument this statue and

00:07:37.780 all these different things and the retort from conservatives was yeah but look at the rest of

00:07:43.780 russia it's uh you know it's impoverished it's you know it's terrible and there's a truth there

00:07:49.140 i'm not saying that that's not true right that was the whole thing with the cold war it's like

00:07:52.300 okay, like we're neck and neck, you know, seemingly on the big stage in the global stage,

00:07:56.860 America and Russia's neck and neck. Who's going to make it to the moon? Who's going to do this

00:08:00.240 first? Who's going to do that first? But the difference was that America was accomplishing

00:08:04.600 all these feats of art and philosophy and politics and discovery and innovation and

00:08:09.900 all these things. Meanwhile, also the people, Americans themselves were prospering and getting

00:08:14.760 ahead. And, and, you know, and meanwhile, Russia is like, you know, seemingly on the global stage

00:08:21.220 neck and neck with us in terms of all these national feats but their people are like trying 0.59

00:08:26.120 to grow vegetables on their roofs you know and and starving um that said so there's a truth there

00:08:32.020 that said um it's it's not a boast right so to say okay but the average american is doing well

00:08:39.640 meanwhile russia all of its national uh monuments are beautiful but uh but then you know there's

00:08:46.140 places in russia in terms of the people where it's you know it's absolutely you know terrible

00:08:51.400 and the people are barely scraping by meanwhile in america the average american is living you know

00:08:56.700 at this level um yeah that that's great um but but the fact that you can say the reverse that

00:09:03.920 uh russia actually cares about its capital it actually cares about its national monuments it

00:09:09.040 actually cares about its history and its public places meanwhile all the public places in america

00:09:14.420 there's graffiti on our statues uh you can't even you can't take your kids to dc to go and see

00:09:20.120 you know uh some monument or go and see you know a museum because heaven forbid new york city

00:09:26.140 the quintessential american city right i would never take my kids there right so that's that's

00:09:31.520 a failure on the other side that's a ditch on the other side of the road right to say well the

00:09:36.120 average american but here's the deal we can't even say that the average american is financing

00:09:40.020 burritos and and if they're under the age of 40 can't own a home you know um and and so now it's

00:09:48.360 like uh we're rivaling russia you know it's like a race to the bottom in terms of the actual citizens 0.60

00:09:54.480 um in what they can't afford and and the fact well we can't afford to get married we can't

00:09:59.180 afford to own a home we can't afford to do this and at least russia has a nice subway

00:10:03.700 so now it's like okay well you know at the american citizen level at the citizen level it's uh yeah

00:10:10.780 they can't afford homes and they're financing burritos and then at the you know national

00:10:14.820 monuments they're filled with graffiti and uh your subway is pristine and it's a work of art

00:10:20.700 and our subway uh we have to clean up you know the blood off of the rails after you know somebody

00:10:25.860 gets pushed in front of a train yeah not great yeah yeah and it really is sad d i think there's

00:10:32.340 a lot a lot to love about dc i think particularly just it being the seat of our government for

00:10:37.880 you know uh i would almost 200 years i guess over 200 years actually yeah to over 200 years

00:10:43.700 as the seat of the government we've obviously poured millions and billions of dollars really

00:10:48.320 frankly into the architecture there so on and so forth so it truly should be a city to your

00:10:53.020 point joel that we should be able to enjoy that people coming from texas when they could take

00:10:57.800 their children there on a vacation and feel safe and and sort of admires i think the founding of

00:11:04.480 our of our government and what we stand for as a nation or we at least stood for um but it's just

00:11:09.680 yeah it's just not the case there's been no uh will i think in dc from any of the residents from

00:11:15.460 the metro police so on and so forth to change any of that of course there have been times where the

00:11:20.540 national guard has been deployed in dc before namely the george either george floyd uh riots

00:11:25.620 obviously during inaugurations and so so forth they've they've had efforts where the national

00:11:32.500 guards deployed but there's never really been a concerted and consistent effort to clean the city

00:11:37.700 up echo pass outpost said uh sent the national guard for the epstein files i appreciate that

00:11:44.320 yeah yeah but i was just going to say uh i think it's a little uh helpful to talk through the

00:11:50.640 history a little bit of why dc is the way that it is and i think it it is the way that it is in a

00:11:54.900 unique way from cities like Baltimore and Oakland and New York City. So you could start all the way

00:12:01.040 back. You could go to say, why is there a district of Columbia? Why is there a distinct state that

00:12:05.460 sits in which the national government sits? And it really goes back to sort of pre-Constitution

00:12:11.280 days. There was a, shortly after the revolution, essentially there was a mutiny. It's called the

00:12:17.160 Philadelphia Mutiny of 1783. And essentially a bunch of soldiers who fought in the Continental

00:12:22.540 Army and hadn't been paid. They marched on Independence Hall. At the time, the Confederate

00:12:27.720 government was in Independence Hall in Philadelphia, and the Continental Congress called on the state

00:12:35.200 of Philadelphia to help, and they didn't help. And so from that moment on, they fled, they went

00:12:39.840 to Princeton, New Jersey, and they bounced around in temporary capitals for a long time.

00:12:43.460 So at the time where they're ratifying the Constitution, a clause was included,

00:12:46.980 which basically established the state, now we call it the District of Columbia. And in that clause,

00:12:52.400 they give all of the power to govern that state to the legislature. So that is the national

00:12:57.880 legislature, the federal Congress. And the executing clause or the take care clause,

00:13:04.100 as it's known in the constitution, is given to the chief executive. In other words, it is truly

00:13:09.680 the president who exercises all of the laws of the District of Columbia. In 1973, something

00:13:17.480 called the Home Rule. So the D.C. Home Rule was passed in National Congress or in the U.S.

00:13:23.460 Congress, which gave D.C. its own governing power. So it's very recent. Only in the past

00:13:28.840 50 years has D.C. ever had a mayor, has D.C. ever had a city council that could control their

00:13:35.000 police department, for example, and refuse to crack down on crime, to institute laws like

00:13:40.180 cashless bail, which allows murderers to walk around the street shortly after having killed

00:13:45.060 someone. And all of these silly policies are very, very new. And so, of course, Trump does 0.91

00:13:51.180 have the right by the Constitution to federalize the military, sorry, the National Guard, to

00:13:56.440 federalize the police department, the Metro City Police Department in D.C. And so all of these

00:14:02.300 things are completely within his constitutional sort of rights. And I will just pull up a quote

00:14:10.000 quickly i like this this is from the article 2 section 3 of of the constitution it says he

00:14:15.880 referring to the district of columbia the president shall take care that the laws be faithfully

00:14:21.520 executed in other words he is the chief uh the chief legal officer the chief um law enforcement

00:14:28.180 officer of the district of columbia again totally within his right um to uh to crack down on crime

00:14:35.360 and he should and it's good that he's doing we should call spade spade yeah the tough thing will

00:14:39.640 be i think he can do it with dc um not i know he can do it uh legally and i think he can pull it

00:14:47.220 off the tough thing will be then uh because i'd like to see a little franchising um in this in

00:14:53.420 this effort uh you know like let's take this show on the road you know and uh go clean up some other

00:14:58.160 cities as well and that's when they'll probably will be a showdown you know like if he goes into

00:15:03.500 new york and tries to pull it off there yep and is having to fight against the mayor and the governor

00:15:08.600 and these kinds of things but that will be i don't know if we'll get there i'd like if we get there

00:15:13.580 because i think um it could be it could be huge um you know i'd like to see what happens yeah yeah

00:15:20.140 well speaking of dc it depends on the source you pull whether you're pulling murders whether you're

00:15:24.360 whether you're pulling felonies you guys have to remember that in the 90s our major cities were

00:15:28.220 like this as well new york city you did not take your family to times square in new york city in

00:15:33.340 the 90s. And it was Giuliani, Rudy Giuliani, that came in as mayor and was tough on crime,

00:15:39.000 hard on crime, crackdown. And we actually enjoyed through the 2000s and the 2010s,

00:15:44.080 a decent amount of reprieve. The cities were pretty safe. I remember visiting New York City

00:15:48.020 as a kid. I remember visiting DC, Philadelphia, been there a decent bit. But I would think what

00:15:52.660 people have to realize is that some of this crime is coming back. So if you look at this graph right

00:15:56.580 here. This is from 2024. New York City's crime rates, we've grown on the second from the right,

00:16:03.880 the column. That's the percent increase in crime as far as violent crime, murder, shootings,

00:16:09.060 felony assaults, and property crime. They're all on the rise in 2023 compared to 2019.

00:16:15.580 In the same way, major felonies have not been this high in New York City since 2007. And again,

00:16:20.300 some metrics, crime is maybe even, it's going down a little bit. We could certainly say that

00:16:24.660 post-COVID, and as well, immigration being another big factor in violent crime, that there is an

00:16:30.600 increase in crime. People feel less safe. They feel less social cohesion. They feel less trust.

00:16:35.980 And it very quickly, I mean, the crime that was big, the late 80s, the 90s, it wasn't overnight

00:16:41.160 that all of a sudden you realize I can't walk down my street and be safe. But little by little,

00:16:44.960 it crept up, it crept up, it crept up. Nobody did anything about it. And then you get to the point

00:16:48.960 where you're like, holy cow, crime is fostering more crime and it's spawning off, be it gangs,

00:16:54.660 It's incentivizing this.

00:16:55.840 It's financing more of this violence.

00:16:57.980 And so I think Trump's right to get ahead of it.

00:17:00.320 And to your point, I think there's going to have to come

00:17:03.480 just a point where you say, look, the federal government,

00:17:07.000 we're going to have to help with D.C. 0.94

00:17:08.560 Like as Christians, Romans 13, that is the job of the state. 0.92

00:17:13.120 Like one job he's given explicitly. 0.75

00:17:14.400 There's many things he can permissively do.

00:17:16.600 But I mean, my goodness, his one thing is to make a nation safe

00:17:19.360 for the people that live in that nation.

00:17:21.520 So if it's not safe to walk down the street, I mean, in D.C.,

00:17:24.120 the big story that kind of blew this up there's a girl getting assaulted by i think four or five

00:17:28.400 black teens and a doge staffer rushed in he saved her got beat to a pulp in the process

00:17:34.220 and this is just like a friday night that's a friday night he lived up to his name though

00:17:38.580 he did honestly what a chad like praise him for his courage yeah but when that becomes the

00:17:44.160 ordinary thing this is absolutely the response for the government to come in and say i'm sorry

00:17:48.740 You don't just get to have people robbed, crime, theft.

00:17:52.760 We're shutting it down, and we've been given the right by God to do this.

00:17:56.600 Yeah.

00:17:56.940 Amen.

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00:21:16.720 We're going to go ahead and be a little shorter on today's episode because this is actually our second live stream of the day.

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00:21:24.440 We decided to split it up instead of just doing one big show

00:21:26.900 because they're two very different stories.

00:21:28.640 So we hit the story of the breaking news in regards to the Supreme Court

00:21:32.920 potentially taking up Bergerfeld

00:21:36.780 and considering overturning it because of, what is her name?

00:21:41.940 What's the chick's name? 1.00

00:21:42.960 Kim Davis. 1.00

00:21:43.560 Kim Davis.

00:21:44.260 Because of Kim Davis from basically a decade ago 0.99

00:21:47.640 who was thrown in jail for six days because she would not issue. 1.00

00:21:51.160 She was a county clerk. 1.00

00:21:52.500 want to issue a marriage license to a same-sex couple on the basis of religious grounds and her 1.00

00:21:58.660 conscience. And so she actually has, she's one of the only people in America who does have

00:22:02.960 the legal standing and all the lower courts have rejected this case and went all the way up to the

00:22:08.020 Supreme Court. And we're going to find out if they take it up. And at least three of the Supreme

00:22:12.040 Court justices have already been public in saying that they do want to take up this case and

00:22:17.420 reevaluate Burgerfell. So we did a stream on that. Go ahead and check it out if you haven't seen it

00:22:21.320 already, and the stream that we're in right now is all things regarded Trump federalizing

00:22:26.800 D.C., and so we're going to go ahead and keep this short because it's our second stream

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00:24:06.400 right now we are in season three of the friday special the next episode will air on friday at

00:24:11.520 8 p.m central time both on youtube and x and our special guest is dr stephen wolf and we are

00:24:17.840 talking about all things related to christian nationalism all right so letter grades for trump

00:24:23.340 first category i think let's go economics first all right let's start with you antonio what do

00:24:27.960 you think economically his policy how's he executing what do you think yeah well i would

00:24:32.260 just i'll start and say it's it's still a little hard to tell and in terms of what the tariffs

00:24:36.960 specifically which have been his sort of just got extended on china today for 90 days yeah so he's

00:24:42.600 i i think they're playing their cards a little bit close in terms of what their what their end

00:24:47.440 goal is uh with some of these different tariff or trade negotiations but um i would say the

00:24:53.380 economies where trump probably is the strongest i think culture we'll talk about another category

00:24:57.380 but i think culture and economy are where he's strongest i would say on the economy specifically

00:25:01.760 I'll probably give him, as it stands now, probably a B, a B to B plus, simply because I think there's

00:25:09.060 still a lot to show in terms of the tariffs and their effects. And obviously, a lot of that is

00:25:13.180 long term. Obviously, you look at the one big, beautiful bill, which was passed, which includes

00:25:20.520 a lot of investment, the federal government dumping money into infrastructure, so on and so

00:25:25.120 forth. So those things could help sort of spurn the economy a little bit. But yeah, overall,

00:25:31.120 I think his rhetoric on the economy, his focus, obviously we've, we've talked on prior episodes

00:25:36.080 about egg prices and gas prices, all of these things being down from peaks, you know, inflation

00:25:41.140 peaks in February and March. So we're only a few months into the administration. We're already

00:25:45.080 seeing the real world impact of some of the policies. So, so yeah, I think B, B plus is fair.

00:25:52.380 Yep. Yeah. I think the same, I would say B plus, maybe even an A minus. I think that is

00:25:57.100 probably his best area is uh economics you're right um in terms of the verdict it's still out

00:26:03.280 it hasn't come back in in regards to you know what the results will be in terms of tariffs um

00:26:08.240 and then in terms of racking up you know more national debt with the you know the big beautiful

00:26:12.680 bill uh that that has you know obviously that that is an economic issue uh taking on more debt uh

00:26:19.500 but before i penalize him for that it's it's it's tough because it's like on one hand i really

00:26:24.440 appreciate thomas massey i appreciate that he's not a zionist shill and he's one of the only guys

00:26:28.300 um in dc who's not and so i i very much appreciate him in that regard and i think he's doing right by

00:26:34.540 his constituents i mean he went in you know with a lot of you know what he ran on was to uh to keep

00:26:41.000 us out of debt to make the debt go down and so of course you know he was going against uh the big

00:26:45.280 beautiful bill which i understand and then he's also really trying to hold uh dc's feet to the

00:26:51.380 in regards to the epstein files and i very much appreciate that so i think thomas massey is great

00:26:56.880 on uh the epstein files and accountability and not selling out to israel and being america first in 0.82

00:27:03.440 those regards that said thomas massey is um he is a libertarian right so he is retarded at the end 0.86

00:27:11.700 of the day um and you know we we do our best to to be gracious and to forgive him for that a libertarian 0.88

00:27:17.920 it's like it's like you know thomas massey he's he's the best of the libertarians but at the end 0.54

00:27:23.060 of the day it's like being the world's tallest midget you know it's like you just you're still

00:27:26.420 kind of short um so a libertarian can only do so much um and so on the big beautiful bill my point 0.79

00:27:32.380 is as it pertains to trump i would say that even there it is not an economic blunder if he passes

00:27:39.740 this bill racks up our debt but uses it to deport 20 to 50 million people right so you know if he

00:27:46.980 can do that over the next three and a half years then it was worth it if we get you know two three

00:27:52.280 four million deportations over the course of his entire presidency um and all we ultimately it's

00:27:59.540 like look i'll give you two million deportations and four trillion added to the debt well then

00:28:05.600 economically i'm going to say uh trump was terrible and then i will what is we doing here i will have

00:28:11.120 to give a new grade and it will be um it will be an f uh so as of now i would say b plus a minus

00:28:18.680 but with some some pretty weighty constituencies conditions um in terms of uh let's see if we get

00:28:27.920 you know if this big beautiful bill actually gets us law and order and actually gets us mass

00:28:32.040 deportations uh the things that we need and let's also find out you know what uh what the

00:28:37.180 consequences are of these tariffs, right? Yeah. I'll be the most bearish one here. I'm going to

00:28:41.140 give it a B minus. There's been a couple of trade bills at one point, OpenAI. They're looking at

00:28:45.100 putting $500 billion investing into the economy. Stargate. Stargate. They realized it actually

00:28:49.960 would be a lot more challenging. They're only opening a couple of sites. This is outside of

00:28:53.620 his control, but the Fed has continued to not cut rates, which I think is also the economy is

00:28:58.180 suffering. Tariff policy, the messaging on it has been a little bit confusing. We mentioned Trump

00:29:02.320 is sending it for 90 days. I'll be honest, past the first like week, I had no idea what the

00:29:06.700 tariffs were what was still in place what wasn't what deals we made so practically a lot of prices

00:29:13.540 are down so inflation I think has been tamed and under control doing good there but I don't know

00:29:18.800 that I've seen huge wins necessarily yet that we've seen now Apple manufacturing Kentucky I

00:29:24.240 think that's good I think he's definitely doing his best at being bring business here but if we're

00:29:29.060 talking practically I mean like like home sales like prices are down but they're also down because

00:29:33.680 people can't afford them with the interest rates so it's not like home prices are down and rates

00:29:37.760 are low and people are scooping up houses and families are finally getting into affordable

00:29:41.740 housing and i know that trump does not have a button on his desk to make them lower but

00:29:45.800 practically i'm not looking out at the economy and seeing tons of different metrics by which

00:29:49.900 man we're we're excelling here and we're doing great here and there's all this money coming in

00:29:54.200 here one bright spot which is why he deserves to be native-born workers adding more jobs while

00:29:59.140 foreign-born workers are decreasing that's definitely been a metric that's trending up 0.51

00:30:02.780 which is a good thing native-born workers to the united states they're adding jobs as foreign-born 0.97

00:30:07.200 workers are decreasing whether they're self-deporting whether they're exiting the

00:30:10.460 workforce whatever it would be so b minus on my end all right what's the next category uh let's

00:30:15.580 talk uh foreign policy all right a plus for israel i mean my goodness i gotta i gotta hand it to him

00:30:22.220 uh his like we wrote that check and you did what we needed you to do he ran on a mega platform

00:30:27.060 he is governing on amiga platform and he is nailing it um i i think a plus netanyahu has

00:30:32.940 got to be so proud um a plus on bombing iran a plus on a lot of that um no all right to be more

00:30:41.060 serious um yeah i i think i think i would give him a d or an f honestly uh not just with israel

00:30:50.240 it's not just that he bombed iran and then he literally he he posted all right so i'm gonna

00:30:55.360 to use his own words i'm not trying to you know i'm not putting on the tinfoil hat and speculating

00:30:58.820 on truth so social uh he went from well it's just a you know a teensy little bunker buster to uh

00:31:04.780 nope uh regime change we actually have to change the regime um and say are you are you kidding me

00:31:10.880 you you ran on no more forever wars you ran on that we've done enough regime change we every

00:31:17.520 time we do a regime change it's always worse um and so uh that i think was absolutely atrocious

00:31:23.220 he just you know just agreed to funding Ukraine more so that they can continue the war in Russia

00:31:31.000 that was supposed to stop right the Middle East stuff was supposed to stop Russia and Ukraine

00:31:36.180 was supposed to stop so on both those fronts not not good at all I don't feel like he's

00:31:42.600 fixing relations with with Russia he's still funding Zelensky he's still getting you know

00:31:48.620 our money to fund this endless war where a ton of people are dying. And then, you know, what happened

00:31:56.020 with Israel and Iran is terrible. You can tell Trump is frustrated, even with Israel. He's like,

00:32:00.460 I don't know that clip, you know, that surfaced where, you know, he's like, I don't know what

00:32:04.340 they're effing doing, you know, and he was talking about both sides. Or he said, they don't know what

00:32:09.040 they're effing doing, Israel and Iran. And so it's like, yeah, I see that you're frustrated.

00:32:14.840 and i guess i can take a little heart in the fact that i mean if he was you know if he felt great

00:32:18.700 about it that'd be even more concerning so the fact that he's frustrated is somewhat reassuring

00:32:23.060 um but we should have stayed out of it uh we we had no business getting involved um and then

00:32:28.940 with china china might be between russia ukraine iran and israel and then you know china china

00:32:36.420 probably is his best um at this point you know trying to trying to play tough guy a little bit

00:32:42.380 which I think that's the best of Trump.

00:32:44.140 I think that's like one of the best cards he has in his hand

00:32:46.860 is being a bully on the global stage

00:32:51.060 and putting different superpowers in check. 0.85

00:32:54.100 And the fact that he's doing some of that with China,

00:32:56.060 I think there's some guys who think

00:32:58.440 that he's just going to provoke them unnecessarily.

00:33:02.160 I don't think so.

00:33:03.080 I actually think that that's going to settle down. 0.86

00:33:06.300 I think China is a threat long-term, 0.92

00:33:08.300 but I actually think that in the near term,

00:33:11.760 I'm not really concerned about China.

00:33:13.560 Yeah.

00:33:13.980 Yeah, my biggest disappointment is that the Ukraine-Russian war is still going on.

00:33:17.440 Practically, Israel and Iran, the death count was pretty low.

00:33:19.920 I think it was probably in total about a couple thousand people,

00:33:22.540 definitely some damage as far as to the cities and everything.

00:33:25.060 But we're not talking.

00:33:26.340 At this point, I mean, I think the death toll is in the hundreds of thousands,

00:33:29.620 Ukraine and Russia.

00:33:30.760 It's brutal drone warfare over there, drones just chopping people's limbs off, 0.97

00:33:36.480 suicide bombs.

00:33:37.740 And one of his big promises was, I want to come in and end this war.

00:33:40.180 The senseless war has to end.

00:33:41.440 he said quickly too i think he promised he would do it he would do it and very early on it was a

00:33:45.880 strong show they said hey zelinski you were here acting like you own the place who do you think we

00:33:49.940 are we've given you a ton of stuff we haven't seen a return on it but practically at the end of the

00:33:53.940 day this is what goes into being a leader the war is still going on now someone else brought it up

00:33:58.220 and i think it's a good point the south african the africaners the settlement program i think we

00:34:02.160 could categorize that under foreign policy i think that's strong um and practically i mean as far as

00:34:07.700 iran goes we're about two months from it and i don't think it's going to escalate even though

00:34:12.140 it's bad it could have it definitely risked escalation on iran's part yeah we at the end

00:34:17.140 of the day we didn't get it unless there's something i'm not aware of and so i'll give

00:34:20.460 him a c um wish the war in russia would end russia and ukraine one way or another don't like the iran

00:34:26.100 stuff but some good stuff as far as the south african farmers and uh yeah yeah i'm right there

00:34:30.920 with you wes i'd say c um i think you didn't you don't get us in any new wars and i don't think

00:34:36.300 you fail. So you can at least say that about Trump. I think he's been strong on rhetoric

00:34:41.860 more than he has on action. You think about continuation from his first term with respect

00:34:48.920 to NATO and in Europe's not, you know, Europe has all of these discriminatory policies versus

00:34:54.700 U.S. companies, so on and so forth. And he's done things behind the scenes to sort of change

00:34:58.840 the tune a little bit for American companies operating in Europe. And so in Europe has

00:35:04.020 acquiesced on a lot of, a lot of, uh, of those sort of policies. I think I saw something the

00:35:08.720 other, other day that said, uh, much of the major Western nations are now spending a greater

00:35:13.720 percentage of their GDP on, uh, defense. And so that is, uh, you know, of course, something that

00:35:19.800 Trump's said from day one, really back in 2015, 2016, when he was running saying things like,

00:35:25.700 uh, America can't subsidize, uh, the defense of, of Europe. And so a lot of that stuff has really

00:35:30.320 come to fruition here a decade later and so uh he's obviously continues to still push on those

00:35:35.700 things i think i'll just you know i'll repeat what you said wes with respect to iran thought it was

00:35:41.380 gonna i thought it was a bad call didn't get us in a war i was chimping i'll be honest uh but uh so

00:35:47.100 he didn't get us in a war and so i have to give him the benefit of the doubt on that one obviously

00:35:50.480 he made a call had information that we weren't privy to that there's nothing he can do to make

00:35:55.020 putin stop uh well there's nothing that he should do right he does not need to provoke putin he

00:36:00.880 doesn't need to start a war with russia or anything like that so um i actually appreciate

00:36:05.360 that he's not like trying to put russia in its place or make you know make russia stop in terms

00:36:10.780 of you know by force um but uh what he could do is and i understand easier said than done but he

00:36:18.620 could uh stop funding ukraine you know and i i think uh that to me that's the big thing is like

00:36:25.180 let it let it end and i i i understand that for the ukrainian people um i i can't imagine it's

00:36:33.300 it's devastating um but i'm sorry you're not you are not in a place um to play hardball you don't

00:36:40.120 you don't get what you want um russia is bigger and stronger and um and yeah you're going to have

00:36:47.660 to make concessions and uh and get peace any way you can and and getting peace for ukraine

00:36:54.660 means losing um losing you know giving up more than they wanted to give up um but it's it's

00:37:01.960 time for the alternative to end yeah what's the whole west goes back to war again right exactly

00:37:06.720 we're not we're not doing this we're not doing another civil war uh we you know we had an american

00:37:11.600 civil war that was a mistake uh we had a uh european you know a civil war in the west um i

00:37:18.940 think that that in many regards was a mistake and uh to do world war you know three uh another civil

00:37:25.560 war over russia and ukraine no um like putin is invading ukraine he believes there are historic

00:37:33.780 lands that rightly belong to the russian people and uh i just i feel like we've seen this story

00:37:39.780 before a guy you know says i think that this are these are historic lands and they belong to us

00:37:44.700 and the entire you know the entire west gets involved in that war and britain gets uppity

00:37:50.400 yeah and it doesn't go well um so no i don't i i think stay out of it leave it alone um it's

00:37:56.680 it's ukraine it's uh it's their problem it's not our problem they're going to have to make uh some

00:38:03.040 steep concessions and i you know it's like it's like playing poker you know it's like once you

00:38:08.480 you know, half of your chips are in, uh, and then a guy, you know, he goes all in and you're

00:38:13.420 already, you know, it's like, man, I, I'm, I'm pot committed, I think is the term. Like I'm already

00:38:18.140 pot committed. And, um, and that's where, you know, most people make some fatal mistakes is

00:38:24.540 they feel like they've, they've already committed so much. And so they feel like they can't fold.

00:38:29.080 Uh, when the reality is like, you're thinking, well, I'd lose half my chips. Uh, but the better

00:38:33.360 way to think is, um, I can protect half of the chips that I still have. And, um, and so I

00:38:39.100 understand that, you know, for Zelensky, he's thinking like, but we've already paid such a

00:38:43.240 tremendous cost. Um, and, and for it to be in the final analysis for nothing, um, you know,

00:38:50.060 or less than nothing to lose, uh, these lands just is more than we can bear. Uh, but the reality is

00:38:55.700 that's actually not the worst scenario. The worst scenario is that you keep going to war, more people 0.98

00:39:01.000 die and you still lose those lands yep so all right domestically yeah let's do domestic and

00:39:08.840 culture i think those kind of so think about some of the cultural issues and blend those together

00:39:12.860 and then some of the domestic policies obviously the big ones that fall on this is uh obviously

00:39:16.400 the border i think there's the biggest one that he ran on um i see i think we're net failing there

00:39:22.040 i think uh i mean we've seen early signs of uh some real will to do something i don't think it's

00:39:29.760 come to fruition yet, but in terms of investment, in terms of deploying ICE, um, obviously we've

00:39:35.000 seen ICE, ICE now has a massive budget. And so they're going to be hiring so on and so forth.

00:39:39.220 And they're going to get some of the resourcement that I think really will get us to where we need

00:39:42.480 to go. Um, but, uh, but certainly, uh, the rhetoric obviously has always been strong on

00:39:47.800 the border. Um, uh, probably the reason he won, frankly. Um, and, and, but all that to say for

00:39:53.900 the border alone, I'm, I just have to, I can't give him anything higher than a, a, a B. So I'll

00:40:00.040 probably say like a C plus, uh, frankly, just because we, again, we haven't seen that stuff

00:40:04.420 come to fruition. I think on the culture war issues. So you think about where the momentum

00:40:08.340 has gone culturally with respect to, um, you know, draining the swamp, so on and so forth.

00:40:13.540 I think that, I think a lot of what Trump's about has lost momentum from his first term.

00:40:18.260 and just sort of being seen as this sort of explorer

00:40:22.380 or maverick on the front end of fighting the culture.

00:40:27.900 I don't see him that way anymore.

00:40:29.780 I think a lot of it is just age.

00:40:31.560 You can just sense that he's just less,

00:40:34.200 he just has less vitality, frankly.

00:40:36.320 And so he's less willing to step out there.

00:40:38.820 I think he's got other things that he wants to accomplish

00:40:40.700 as it relates to legacies, economy, so on and so forth.

00:40:43.800 And so he's not really focused on calling out 1.00

00:40:45.700 um, that which is gay and that which is stupid and culture anymore. Um, but every now and then 1.00

00:40:50.720 he does dip into the, those issues and we appreciate it. But yeah, so I'll just say

00:40:55.320 domestically border. He's really suffered. Um, obviously consumer sentiment, uh, is another big

00:41:01.760 one with respect to domestic policy. So how do people feel? Do people feel like they're in a

00:41:06.260 better state than they were under Biden? I think that without a doubt is true. Um, although it

00:41:11.920 wasn't a swing. It wasn't a swing that I expected. So if you look at like the stock market, for

00:41:16.080 example, which is a good, I would say actually a pretty good measure of consumer sentiment stock

00:41:20.060 markets at record highs, um, where obviously people are feeling better overall about the

00:41:24.960 trajectory, whether we, you know, our ability to combat inflation, so on and so forth. Um, and so

00:41:30.460 that, that, that can be palpable, I think when you're, when you're coming from such a bad

00:41:35.180 presidency like Biden Harris. Um, and so there's a little bit of credit that that's due there.

00:41:39.780 um but overall uh could do a lot better domestically yeah he has i mean we have uh

00:41:47.320 for the first time in 50 years we have uh net negative immigration yeah so first time in 50

00:41:53.860 years so in terms of closing the border um you know i've got to give him credit he's done an

00:41:59.600 incredible job in terms of mass deportations no i can't give him an f because of net immigration

00:42:06.880 that that is zero there's been three major failings here domestically epstein has been a

00:42:11.840 big one and it was the first occasion where he's actually attacked his base it's not great that

00:42:16.000 was one of the promises on the campaign trail we're going to release these files he reneged on

00:42:19.740 that he threw his attorney general on the bus that has been terrible and it's garnered a lot

00:42:23.880 of backlash for him on deportations unfortunately he's flip-flopped a ton we're going to deport

00:42:28.320 farm workers not going to deport them he's floated the idea of amnesty um now who knows what we

00:42:33.580 actually get but practically speaking what we're looking at now is most workers are kind of free

00:42:39.100 from it so sure you pick up these people along the fringes but you're not looking at getting out

00:42:43.460 millions and millions of people even if you have that funding which leads to the third failure

00:42:47.320 which has been doge i mean initially and some of that's elon musk but i mean practically he brought

00:42:51.480 him in he was promising two trillion dollars worth of cuts to the deficit to the budget uh we ended

00:42:56.660 up maybe around 30 billion now what we did get in there thankfully is palantir software within

00:43:02.780 all of the major information structures within the government, which is also not great.

00:43:07.940 So you've had some pretty big failures that are public, like Doge was a failure,

00:43:10.720 and then he had a falling out with Elon Musk.

00:43:12.520 You've had failure on the Epstein side of things.

00:43:14.400 And deportation, the signaling, same thing back to the tariffs,

00:43:17.480 it just hasn't been concise, clear, and consistent.

00:43:20.620 And so for those reasons, again, there's some help for immigration for sure.

00:43:23.860 Early on with some of the culture stuff, did a good job. 0.99

00:43:26.420 It's going to have to be like a D to a D minus,

00:43:28.720 one of his biggest problems right now, I think, keeping the base happy.

00:43:32.780 and i'm not the only one saying this like young men by and large it's like i've had a 40 point

00:43:36.840 change in approval i'm one of millions of people that said hold on i signed up for x but i do not

00:43:43.000 seem to be getting it and that shift in approval is uh not that they've shifted like that trump is

00:43:47.540 too far to the right it's all these young men they're not going left no they are going past

00:43:52.660 trump uh further to the right so there yeah there's been a massive shift in his approval

00:43:56.720 um even just in the last couple months uh especially for everyone but especially young

00:44:02.840 men and it's young men who are going further right yep yep okay any other categories we

00:44:08.480 did economics who did foreign affairs what's an overall all right so overall overall is probably

00:44:14.240 a b b minus okay c plus for me i think i said b minus or a plus on economics i said

00:44:21.140 f what did i say f f on foreign policy yeah uh and then i said um did i ever give one for culture

00:44:28.040 i don't think i did uh because of because of net negative for the first time in 50 years on the

00:44:33.660 border in terms of new people coming in i appreciate that the mass deportation is not having

00:44:38.260 happening jeffrey epstein files uh that's a huge uh huge elk um that i feel like he's just having

00:44:45.420 to wear across his neck. And that is tanking his approval. So for Jeffrey Epstein, give him an F

00:44:52.580 there for sure. Mass deportations. I mean, he had to get the funding, those kinds of things. And so

00:44:58.760 we'll give him some time. We'll give him a C there. And then stopping immigration altogether

00:45:02.560 in terms of, you know, more people coming in with the border. He's doing really good there. We'll

00:45:07.200 give him an A. So I'd say C all the way around for me on the domestic cultural immigration type 1.00

00:45:13.920 issues and then i said f uh when it came to foreign affairs and i said b minus or a a minus

00:45:20.500 or b plus we'll give it an a minus um when it comes to economy so i'm going to say c overall

00:45:25.580 yep what about you you said b overall probably c plus all right yeah cool so he's uh he's got

00:45:33.760 three and a half more years you know he could turn it around trump has surprised people you

00:45:37.540 gotta you gotta give him there's a lot of people who counted him out they're like this is it his

00:45:40.980 business is done oh yeah his presidency is done trump they got some egg on their face trump excels

00:45:46.740 at uh at proving people wrong yeah and so and that's awesome when you trust in him sometimes

00:45:51.400 and and of course that's true there's obviously a lot they're trying to get done i think in this

00:45:56.520 in this term and so we're six months in and you just have starting pains like it's it's going to

00:46:01.420 be tough to get these big initiatives off the ground and so you've got to get a give a little

00:46:06.620 bit of credit there as well we've still got three years for some of this stuff to start playing out

00:46:11.060 so and as a leader like things literally happen that are not in your purview but the buck stops

00:46:15.820 here like i was arguing with a friend yesterday about jimmy carter and carter inherited a number

00:46:19.460 of problems with going off the gold standard the oil shock in the early 70s so you can make all

00:46:23.520 these excuses for him it doesn't matter like he was president the president sets policy and so

00:46:28.140 if you feel we're being a little bit unfair like this is kind of what you take on when you be a

00:46:31.720 leader i own it whether it was my fault whether i inherited it or not right uh do we have any

00:46:36.540 questions nathan we have at least one okay here we go one question this is from history admiral

00:46:43.680 um 9461 he wrote in and said how will power be centralized in the u.s will we see something like

00:46:52.920 a monarchy will we see why weimar solutions etc we were just talking about this over lunch

00:46:59.880 any thoughts i i think the u.s is too big to centralize yeah i think actually the the what

00:47:06.400 we'll see is actually decentralization i think we're at the government's actually pretty

00:47:09.860 centralized as it stands now as it relates to most of the power most of the policies that are

00:47:14.520 affecting day-to-day life here in texas for example or anywhere else around the country

00:47:18.780 are actually federal policies and a lot of people look to uh you know the federal judiciaries or the

00:47:24.920 federal congress to um to sort of lay lay down the the law so um i actually think the force will be

00:47:32.140 predominantly federalization and decentralization yeah in the future i could see balkanizing um

00:47:38.580 yeah it's just it's just too big too big of a country and and it's not even so much that it's

00:47:43.720 too many people although it you know it is too many people if um it's multiculturalism so many

00:47:49.640 different kinds of people um but just the land mass itself i mean you think of the eu you know

00:47:57.540 it's just i mean we are a massive country just geographically we are a massive country uh that

00:48:03.980 was always going to be a challenge it was not as challenging when there were substantially less

00:48:08.620 people and um although yes there were challenges when the italians came and the irish came and you

00:48:14.300 know with each wave of immigration there were growing pains but we were still in this basic

00:48:19.260 stage of the development of our country where we we had a massive land mass that needed to be

00:48:24.540 settled we actually needed hands we needed guys to come and put them to work there's all this

00:48:29.580 rugged terrain you know the wild wild west and you know all these things where it's like hey come

00:48:35.040 and uh and you're coming you're coming for uh not a handout but you're coming for a job you're

00:48:41.520 coming to be put to work and it's like hey you can have this land uh if you can tame it right

00:48:46.980 there was no job board in early uh new england nobody came there and like all right i'm gonna

00:48:51.380 go to the unemployment office yeah so early on when you're looking at settlers not immigrants

00:48:55.780 but settlers and yes there are you know the irish are very different than the italians and you know

00:49:01.500 and then both of them are very different from the english and so there are differences uh but the

00:49:05.800 differences between you know the italians and the english were not as pronounced as the differences

00:49:10.760 you know between English and Haitians right that's like that's just a whole other ball game

00:49:16.820 and so I would say that you still had um at least some commonality in terms of the stock of the

00:49:22.220 people um you know Italians were Catholic uh but but Catholic is a lot closer to Protestant there

00:49:28.440 are you know serious distinctions but it's a lot closer to Protestant than voodoo you know or

00:49:33.300 Hinduism or all the Muslims who are now coming into the country right so I think religiously

00:49:38.640 um uh racially um in many different ways you just you had um you had more solidarity 0.99

00:49:45.240 um and you had a massive country where we needed people uh we don't need people now and so now it's

00:49:52.260 it's like we have more people we have more diversity of people and diversity is not a strength

00:49:57.060 um and and yeah the the idea that it could all be held together at the federal level um seems

00:50:04.560 seems impossible it seems like we're uh we're just continuing to um to larp this uh this failed

00:50:12.000 experiment like we're not admitting to ourselves um you know like benjamin franklin like what did

00:50:17.300 you give us mr franklin a republic if you can keep it um and i think at some point we've got

00:50:21.820 to just admit we did not keep it um we didn't keep it so i think balkanization um there there

00:50:28.400 are challenges and problems and potential pitfalls with that um but that seems the most likely it's

00:50:35.140 either going to be uh that we balkanize um or uh it's going to have to be some kind of strong man

00:50:41.720 like cromwellian type you know figure america is you know just because of our tradition and our

00:50:47.080 heritage we're never going to call him king uh but it would have to be someone who functionally

00:50:50.800 uh he functions as a king even though we will refuse to use the term and we'll continue to say

00:50:56.160 no king but christ you know and those kinds of things but you would have to it'd have to be like

00:51:00.000 a bukele type type figure um cromwellian figure who comes in and uh and unites the nation but does

00:51:06.900 it painfully it will not be it will not be peaceful um so it's either that or it's uh we break we break

00:51:14.860 off and um and some places will thrive and other places will be terrible yep i don't know i think

00:51:21.340 there's one i'll just quickly say like i think there's one federal you know scenario where the

00:51:26.500 federal government is centralized and it's it's peaceful and i think that is packing the courts

00:51:31.240 i think it's just a leader comes along and says my initiative is to expand the supreme court

00:51:36.520 put a bunch bunch of uh you know people who love me on the supreme court to you know remove impeach

00:51:42.600 judges around uh the country and reinstate you know judges who are friendly to me so on and so

00:51:49.100 forth because at this point you even see this with trump like the only thing standing in the way

00:51:53.740 of his political will is a corrupt judiciary right yep okay uh last minute we had one more

00:52:02.660 question this is from striker 5573 he says for a small based church uh what tools do you think

00:52:10.660 are most impactful for attracting other based people uh f facebook ads podcast ads grassroots

00:52:17.320 only um i don't know man uh it's it's tough like for us the podcast has been a blessing

00:52:25.100 it's it's difficult because it has attracted you know uh an immense amount of opposition and so

00:52:31.120 that you know that poses its own challenges but one thing that helps tremendously is there are

00:52:35.780 very very few people who arrive at our church um who don't who who don't know what they're in for

00:52:41.960 you know most people know preemptively they've seen the podcast those kinds of things so they're

00:52:46.420 not showing up and saying what you don't believe that women can be pastors you know or something 0.99

00:52:51.760 like that um they you know they're coming we did have two women i think just straight up walked

00:52:56.220 out this sunday we did they were like not what i signed up yeah yep um very early though you

00:53:04.420 got to hand it to them they uh they made a snap judgment um then in the i uh yeah we didn't even

00:53:10.720 start the liturgy i think i was i was explaining family integrated worship oh and i was saying you

00:53:15.640 know it it can be difficult um it is a challenge this is how we're training our children to we

00:53:20.900 don't want to just drop them off in christian child care but we actually want our children

00:53:25.480 to be in church with us families worshiping together and then i may right i can neither

00:53:31.340 confirm nor deny but i may have made a comment about um if uh if you can train your dog uh then

00:53:40.080 I don't want to hear that it's impossible to train a child. We are a church that views children

00:53:46.840 higher than animals. We actually believe that a three-year-old can be trained to be obedient and

00:53:53.920 honor their mother and father and to sit quietly and to worship the Lord alongside their parents.

00:53:59.600 And I think that might have been what did it. I can't believe you said that.

00:54:04.060 i was i was so real for that um okay well uh i i don't know what do you do

00:54:10.060 i like the foxhound said word of mouth like practically word of mouth yeah i think so with

00:54:14.400 ads you're paying money for you're just you're hitting a lot of people that just have no interest

00:54:17.640 in right but by being 60 80 people strong those are 60 80 people that when people ask them what

00:54:23.340 do you do who do you know oh are you religious they're saying yeah i go to this church and this

00:54:27.420 is what we're about and i'm a conservative i think word of mouth just being in the community and

00:54:31.680 and attracting people who are also there and you got to narrow it down like you you need an elevator

00:54:35.980 pitch right it can't just be like well our church you know and then like spongebob you know three

00:54:40.660 hours later you know so like it has to be narrow uh so that you can just elevator pitch tell

00:54:46.380 somebody you know in 30 to 45 seconds hey i'm a part of this church and our church is like x y

00:54:52.060 and z um and you know i think i think it kind of like the four pillars episode that we did last

00:54:57.840 week a lot of people were blessed by that i think you know telling people like all right we're um

00:55:02.580 we're unapologetically christian and what kind of like we're reformed whatever you know whatever

00:55:08.240 you are so like we are uh reformed protestant christian um and then you know beyond that we're

00:55:15.360 patriarchal um male-led we believe that men should be masculine and uh that they should be leaders

00:55:20.140 uh we um are you know conservative you know culturally right you know in explaining what

00:55:27.220 you in a conservative politically uh we're america first you could say that uh we're america first

00:55:32.920 uh we are not zionist um you know we're not dispensational um say you know just a few a few

00:55:40.080 little things like that that you can just you could be at the park kids are playing there's

00:55:45.020 another family there and the conversation comes up you know what church do you go to well we go

00:55:49.980 to a trip what's it like it's like this you know so if if you have an elevator pitch word of mouth

00:55:54.320 could be really good any thoughts yeah no i think it's word of mouth i think uh as particularly with

00:55:59.360 the really as it relates to the elevator pitch like finding specific topics that you you feel

00:56:05.040 like your your church is attractive on right so you know it could have been your stance on covid

00:56:08.900 or something like that like you know finding those fault lines and saying hey this is what you know

00:56:13.540 our church feel this is how our church feels about this particular issue can i think be a little bit

00:56:19.080 more um galvanizing for people yeah when you're giving pitches so just keep that in mind but i

00:56:23.500 think word of mouth will definitely particularly in the early stages uh be the most impactful

00:56:28.140 yeah you can say our church was stood the test of covet 19 blm and george floyd and the antioch

00:56:36.000 declaration it's like listen for about 17 people it was a really big deal and we stood the test

00:56:45.140 all right well thanks for tuning in we hope this episode has been helpful for you

00:56:48.700 and what day is it it's monday all right so we will see you lord willing on wednesday

00:56:53.480 and it'll be all three of us antonio wesley myself in the studio and then i think friday we're going

00:56:58.580 to try to get a guest and that one will be just uh me and wesley so antonio you guys have probably

00:57:04.040 seen so michael uh has transitioned out and we did a whole episode explaining you know what why

00:57:09.360 he's transitioned and what he's working on some of his private projects how you guys can support

00:57:13.840 him uh he preached yesterday at church um and so we you know we're still good friends he's still a

00:57:18.500 part of uh the church you can check out the sermon online he did a great job it was a matthew

00:57:23.100 chapter 11, verse 16 through 24, where Jesus is pronouncing woes on all these Jewish cities in

00:57:30.100 Israel and saying, it'll be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrah on the day of judgment than

00:57:33.900 for you because of the miracles that he had done there. So he did a really good job with the

00:57:38.360 sermon. So if you want to hear from Michael, he preached just yesterday. You can check out that

00:57:42.600 sermon online. It should be up. But Michael is transitioning and working on other things,

00:57:48.020 other projects and antonio is transitioning in and basically what we're doing is you're here

00:57:53.600 about half the time yep because you still have some other obligations uh but just so you know

00:57:58.880 so that people know uh the plan is that uh you know wes and i are going to hold down the fort

00:58:03.800 antonio is uh hopping on you know once or twice a week and uh and working towards the end of this

00:58:09.180 year where antonio would come on with us full-time and be the three of us so uh we will see you uh

00:58:14.620 with all three of us on Wednesday and then Wes and I may be a guest on Friday. God bless and we'll see you soon.

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