THE LIVESTREAM - Trump & Rogan Promote Biblical Principles!?
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Summary
In a shocking display of being normal, President Trump went on the Joe Rogan Experience and promoted some ideas that you might actually think are God s standards. In particular, he proposed that the government, in the income tax and secure our government, our markets, shore them up through tariffs instead. Also, he seems willing to allow people like RFK Jr to promote health in ways that fly in the face of big pharma. Do these ideas mean that Trump would be, to some degree, good for America? Spoiler alert: Yes. Tune in now to find out why.
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Today's episode, in a shocking display of being normal, President Trump went on the
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Joe Rogan experience and promoted some ideas that you might actually think are God's standards.
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In particular, he proposed that the government, in the income tax and secure, our government,
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our markets, shore them up through tariffs instead.
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Also, he seems willing to allow people like RFK Jr. to promote health in ways that
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fly in the face of big pharma. Do these ideas mean that Trump would be, to some degree, good
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for America? Spoiler alert, yes. Tune in now to find out why.
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Good to see you. Good to be back. Yep. I always love the Wednesdays. Looking forward to it all
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week so today we're talking about uh trump on the joe rogan experience and if you are one of the 35
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million or so people that have last i checked i think it was like 37 okay 37 yep i i was like in
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the first minute i saw it posted it was 60 000 already so just a little bit less popular than
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theology applied right yeah pretty close pretty close yeah yeah they're not bad they're not bad
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it's about as 37 million it's about as popular as uh the clips of theology apply
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i was gonna say if you are someone who has not seen it yet good luck finding it on youtube
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because they are suppressing that bad boy hard i did see that they came out um i think yesterday
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maybe the day before saying we're trying to fix you know blah blah so yeah it's always an error
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something happens we're not sure but they did release some kind of statement saying that's
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interesting we're working on it okay but yeah i think it was intentional we'll have it fixed uh
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So what we wanted to do today is there were some things in the interview that were, you know, interesting and fun.
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Talking boxing, talking MMA, just two guys talking, which was kind of refreshing to see from both of them.
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But there were a few things in that episode that I think the thinking Christian may have come away with thinking,
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wait a minute, they didn't name Christ, they didn't name the Bible, they didn't name natural law or theonomy.
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but those ideas seem strangely biblical, strangely in line with God's standards. And so what we
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wanted to do is explore two of those in particular and talk about, well, even if we have a ruler who
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is not a Christian, he's not doing what the law commanded the king to do, which was to write his
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own copy of the law and to base his rulings on God's justice, if he were to apply some of these
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things would it benefit america right and that's the question that we want to tackle today so any
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general comments about this before we dump it jump into some of the clips well i was just gonna say
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like in terms of newsworthy things uh with kamala the details on that as i've been able to store
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them out is uh because you know a lot of people on the left are saying that you know democrats are
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saying well joe rogan you know he turned her down right he invited her to do the joe rogan experience
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i've looked i looked back and checked it out um from what i can tell he's um the joe rogan
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experience is in austin texas in his studio in person for an unlimited amount of time usually
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somewhere anywhere from like maybe an hour and 45 minutes all the way up to three four hours
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that is the joe rogan experience that's the podcast he doesn't go on the road some shows
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go on the road he doesn't go on the road um and so uh what kamala's you know uh team said to joe
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was uh kamala is willing to do it but it needs to be here so he has to go and meet her and uh
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and she can only do one hour right and he and he said no so some people are trying to kind of like
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twist it and say well uh kamala didn't say no joe said no uh no joe made an offer yep uh to which
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she said no to he said do you want to come on the joe rogan experience and she said no i don't want
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to come on the joe rogan experience and then she gave a counter offer which is um do you want to
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to come interview me for an hour wherever i am you know and he's like no i don't do that i'm not
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a reporter i asked if you wanted to come on my podcast so she let the record stand she did uh
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say no to his offer so he made the offer to trump and trump i mean it's the most famous person in
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the world and joe rogan did not go to trump right trump had to put his butt on a plane and go over
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to austin texas and sit down and do the joe rogan experience just like a bow hunter in the early
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days did it. And just anybody who's ever been on the show, same standards for Donald Trump.
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And that's the same offer that was presented to her. She turned it down, made a counter offer
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that it's not the Joe Rogan experience. And she said, I don't want to come on the Joe Rogan
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experience, but would you like to travel and be a news reporter? And he said, no, that's not what
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I do. I was going to say from the outset, we've said this before, big Trump fans, I've cast my
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a voter and already for him i did not plug my nose uh but if you're a christian and in your
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conscience you just you're not down with it you feel like either way uh our country's on fire
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whichever one wins we don't show that opinion we respectfully disagree but if you do hold that
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opinion your brother in christ probably won't be the episode that you'll enjoy the most yeah
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like i understand you know some people just committed to an hour you know two hours of
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hate watching but just just do yourself a favor spare yourself spare us yeah um if you if you
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don't like uh the idea of voting for trump that's that's perfectly fine that's um your conscience
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is you're allowed to come to that conclusion but this episode is uh we are not going to be casting
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trump as the christian prince i for the record i don't know anybody who said that do you know
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anybody who said trump is the christian prince some of the charismatic circles the paul oh that's
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true they really have this sense of anointment but they're not reformed they're like barely
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protestant but none of like none of our guys like the christian nationalists because i saw that you
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know, on, I think it was Abolitionist Rising, who just for the record, I love them. I'm rooting for
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them. I'm praying for them. I think they do good work. T. Russell Hunter, I think is a brother in
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Christ. I think he has slandered multiple people this year over this issue, and that's frustrating,
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but I think he's a brother in Christ. I love him too. And then the other guys who are involved with
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it are their own men, you know, like Ben Zysloft has been. Well, Abolish Abortion Texas is a
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is a sponsor at fight left east this weekend i mean like right exactly yeah so uh ben size loft
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is great um i i disagree with him on the trump thing and you know i sometimes i think like ah
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did we need 10 tweets today about not voting for trump like could could it have been nine you know
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but uh so like we have our disagreements but like james silberman just want to go on the record
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incredible guy love him dusty deavers love him uh jacob miller in our church you know he's he's
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he's an abolitionist he's in the you know abolitionist rising you know uh milieu and
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and knows personally uh russell t hunter and jacob miller strongly disagrees with me and says
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um i i think you should not be voting for right donald trump and he's even aired that publicly
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on uh twitter and he was promptly excommunicated i'm just kidding no he was uh he was loved and
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i said hey brother i love you and um this is not this is not a this is not a a a big a big issue
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it matters it matters but this is not something to divide over so um anyways so lots of good guys
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i you know t russell hunter i do kind of put in a different category i'm not saying he's not a good
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guy but but he has objectively slandered guys and i i say all that just back to the um setting up
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our episode we're not saying that trump is the christian prince and i just noticed that t russell
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hunter said that i think in a video or on twitter um a while back maybe a week or two ago said that
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like um you guys are saying that he's the christian prince and i personally just don't know anybody
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saying that except for maybe paula white you know what but that's i don't think he was talking to
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paula white one of my uh one of my son's friends my son is 18 told him that um he's convinced that
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we think that Trump is the second coming of Jesus Christ. So there's wild theories out there. None
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of us definitely hold those theories. Just for the record, too, the Reformers, like they spoke
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very, very highly of kings and magistrates when they rule. Well, Calvin or Rutherford even said
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it's like God being near to us when there's a kingly rule. So if anything, we're more moderate
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in our praise and our excitement for someone who you think would do a lot of good, even than the
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reformers who lauded them yeah with uh almost heavenly titles in some ways yeah hey real quick
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who do we got in the chat nate i'm seeing some of the boys in here the boys are back the boys
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are back in town trottle i see you what's up too legit to quit god bless you faithful remnant right
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there brandon let's go brandon my guy let's go brandon uh paul how do you even say that last name
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we've tried it before audio manco audio manco okay um m dubs god bless you welcome to see you
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um who else do we have mike johnny john john johnny johnston it's not johnny johnston it's
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johnny johnson john johnsonston johnsonston which is absolutely that's ridiculous that cannot be his
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real name and if it is i'm so sorry for laughing uh mb east god bless you uh go down real quick
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there was somebody that i saw uh oh right there go up go up the guy's picture uh joshua michael
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too said sup boys good to see you thanks for tuning in appreciate it striker i'm sure brandon's like
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i'm sure i'm sure he's never heard that before i just i wanted to see who's in the chat because
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here's the deal like you know i at this point it's not unusual it's just kind of like hey it's
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another week you know it's another tuesday you know but uh but definitely been going viral a
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little bit uh with some things that you know i usually go viral for my spicy takes that are true
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but are out of context and right wing watch you know leftists take it up in this case it was
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brothers in christ who we love but we think are wrong and and it wasn't just taken out of context
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but it was actually it was actually false and so you know on the heels of that you know seeing you
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guys in the chat uh hey we're still gonna watch right response um you know like some of you guys
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probably don't even know what's going on and and yet you know you've seen glimpses and you're still
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like i've been following joel webin for three years and i know his character i know that can't
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be true there must be an explanation and then other you guys you know have maybe uh watched
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you know ad robles the reasonable latino getting a little less reasonable he's very close to being
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the unreasonable doug wilson's going to do no quarter november and and ad robles might do uh
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no reasonable yeah november yeah he might go full scorched earth um he's been talking to me today
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back and forth and so uh some of you have seen that you know some of the things that are going
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on and uh i appreciate your support but some of you haven't seen that right and you just you just
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see the glimpses of bad and yet you're still you're still here um and i don't think it's still
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you're here because you don't care i don't think it's like we're still here because uh we don't
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care because if joel is a terrible guy then great no you're saying like no it's not because you're
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terrible and so therefore you're okay with me being terrible it's uh you actually care about
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god's word you care about biblical standards and um and you've just been supportive of this
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ministry for long enough to where you're like uh that smells fishy i don't believe it and man i
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just want to take a second say that it means the world thank you guys all right all right so we're
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going to jump in give a like yeah give a like to the video um subscribe share the video yep all the
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all the usual things uh so here we go first clip go ahead nathan more beautiful than love it's more
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beautiful than anything it's the most beautiful word this country can become rich with the use
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the proper use of tariffs it'll keep you just float out the idea of getting rid of income taxes
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A president who was assassinated named McKinley,
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and take our workers and take our families
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they switched over stupidly to, frankly, an income tax.
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Because countries were putting a lot of pressure on America.
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You know, believe me, they control our politicians.
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If you look at the kind of numbers that these guys make
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then and now. But we had a commission meeting in the eight, I think it was 1887. Think of this
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problem. We were so rich. We had so much money. We didn't know what to do. So they set up a blue
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ribbon commission on tariffs. And the sole purpose is what to do with all the money we had.
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We were so rich because we were taxing other people for coming in and taking our jobs.
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If you want to open a factory and sell cars, if you build a factory or have a factory, they don't take our cars.
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But if you build a plant in China, you can do that.
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When you're talking about – one of the criticisms of your administration was with tax cuts and with tariffs, you increased the deficit.
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So was the – what was the strategy behind that?
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And did you think it was going to increase the deficit by a substantial amount?
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So I took it from almost 40 percent down to 21 percent.
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Now I'm bringing it from 21 down to 15, but only if you make your product in the United States, which is great.
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I don't care if they make the product in Japan.
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At 21, in the first year, we took in much more revenue than we did at almost 40.
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We were able to get people to bring back their money.
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the bureaucracy, the documents, the whole thing.
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You know, they wanted like half of it or something.
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So they leave their money in Japan and they spend their money there.
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So how does the deficit increase because of that?
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We were ready to rock and roll and then we had the COVID thing.
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All right. Great. So we want to say here at the beginning that we're not economists. And the purpose of this section is not to dive into whether or not tariffs are X percent better than taxes or how much of the deficit a tariff is going to offset as compared to income tax. That's not really the purpose.
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The reason I picked this clip was because, according to Trump, his motivation for wanting to try something like tariffs, lower the income tax, lower even the corporate tax, it sounds like, there at the end, is because he loves this country.
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And he wants the business and the manufacturing and the benefit and the wealth to be circulating in our markets rather than overseas markets.
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And I found some interesting quotes as I was researching.
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I'm not going to read this quote, but it's from the American Compass, an article called So What If Tariffs or Taxes?
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And in it, they talk about how to the globalist, they don't care where a product is made.
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The bottom line for a globalist is, can I produce it as cheaply as possible?
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And the article says that it's only patriotic people that care if products are built in their country by their people and at advantage for their people.
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And the neoliberal order that came out of World War I and World War II, really, it viewed the world as the stage.
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rather than we need to have closed nation states where a country a company benefits that country
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no it doesn't matter there's no borders i'm so glad you brought that up michael because
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world war ii is something that we should probably talk about
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no but you're right that's i mean i i know people at this point they're like the post-war
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consensus isn't real is the post-war consensus with us in the room right now you know right it's
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like look maybe we come up with a better term later on i understand if you're getting a little
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bit tired of it but um but but the reason it keeps getting mentioned is because uh unlike you know
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neil shinby and the woke right it actually is real which by the way i just got to say that was
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absolutely ridiculous um meg basham god bless her heart um she she won't say it so i'll say it for
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um but uh i saw there was a picture of michael knolls with neil shinby and it was like uh basically
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you know like michael knowles giving some of his credentialism you know like like popping you know
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it was giving him some props uh to neil shinvey and neil shinvey has been insufferable for the last
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what's at least six months if not you know a full year talking about the woke right i mean forever
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i know but but especially insufferable right beyond the usual insufferability and so um it's
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just for you guys who don't know about neil shinvey the frustration that guys have with
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with neil shimpy is because he's been um writing against crt and wokeness while being a member
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in jd greer's church who literally is responsible for um for smuggling in crt and wokeness into the
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sbc yep much less just his local church that's been the whole thing about that people are
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frustrated with neil shimpy whether it's william wolf or meg dash and like um got you know jeff
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right has you know like you know all those guys great guys you know um come against neil shimpy
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for that because they're saying like dude you're not and so anyways uh but he found a new thing to
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be insufferable extra insufferable about the woke right um but the woke right you know a lot of
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things that he would point to is like well there's christians on x who are positively talking about
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franco and the irony is that like uh michael knowles um did a whole thing yeah talking about
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franco positively and mussolini like right yeah and 50 and and neil sanfee is happy for a photo
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with michael knowles because he has clout right you know and so uh but by neil shimby's own
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definition of what it means to be woke right i i i hope that you know michael knowles sees this
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you know like that uh um neil shimby thinks that um that you are a crt race hustling leftist just
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on the other side of the aisle so anyways i can't even remember how i got there post-war consensus
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oh yeah so neil shimby's like post-war consensus it's ridiculous you know blah blah that's just
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woke right language and um look the reason why it matters is because the world really did change
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it really did change and and and theologically uh the church really did change i mean we've
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talked about eschatology in the past that was a big change it's like and i'm sympathetic right
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you're so you're the greatest generation you come back from war you've seen all these atrocities
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regardless of of different war crimes and who was perfectly right about this or that but you come
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back from war and it's like you've just seen guys get their heads blown off you know and uh and so
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then you come back and you're not particularly white-pilled and optimistic about about the future
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that that checks out i i get that and so out of that's where you see a lot of the uptick yes the
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scofield bible in the mid you know 1800s and those kind of but you you know the the seeds were
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already planted for dispensational premillennialism it kind of a hopeless like yes jesus does win in
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the final analysis but not until the church gets the crap beat out of it and she's sitting there
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and she's been pruned and she you know there's like 14 christians left on the earth you know
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144,000, yeah. And so, you know, and then Jesus comes back. It's not that Christ as the head of
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the church actually wins in real human history through his body on earth in temporal, tangible
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ways, as well as eternal. No, no, no. It's Christ wins on behest of the church after the church
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sufficiently loses and goes all nine rounds, you know, or 12 rounds, and I'm thinking nine
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innings, all 12 rounds, and just is on the ropes getting pummeled. But eventually the bell comes
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and Christ, you know, Christ comes in and saves us.
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say you're like, I want to manufacture X, Y, and Z
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in switzerland well there's correspondence getting the money what do you transfer it into
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but as global markets emerged and information and money and all of these things move not only
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faster but more frequently like there's 24 hour markets now you can trade x y and z stock 24 hours
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a day across the world so you have a technology that it's neutral but it emerges as we have this
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post-war consensus as this disdain towards nationalism so moving towards globalism
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empowered by global financial markets that enable trade and then all of a sudden you have now the
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2000s especially big companies the forbs the auto manufacturers toys electronics wait pennies on
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the dollar i can get this in from china right just by way of definition too for anyone not familiar
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with tariffs all the tariff is is it's a tax imposed by a government on goods or services
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that are imported or exported between countries right so a tariff on electronics from china for
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example, says 15% of the value, 20%, 100%. You could do 200% tariffs. Whatever value you're
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importing, you have to pay this because the labor was done overseas. The labor wasn't done here in
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our country. So Trump is talking about income tax as it is now, produces tons of money for the
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government, runs their programs, runs the military, all of that. And he's floating the idea, what if
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all of our dependence on offshore manufacturing, on offshore vehicle creation, electronics and
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goods and all of that. What if we started taxing them much heavier, making these foreign nations
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that are taking our labor pay for it? What if that was the income that then generated the engine
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that drove our government? That's really important because one of the things that I was
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reading in preparation for here was that the U.S. government looked at the income generated from
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tariffs, which in the 1900s at some points was up to 95 percent of all the money that they brought
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in you know and so they're looking at the money that we generate from tariffs and they're kind
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of forecasting and calculating how much could we make from income tax and the calculus hit a level
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where the money that they could get from income tax equaled or exceeded in their mind the money
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that they would get from tariffs but the problem with the with that perspective is that it assumes
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that both streams of income for the government are equally appropriate or acceptable to impose
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One is we're going to impose this income stream on other nations.
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We're going to tax them if they want to bring their goods here.
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That's a privilege to you to be able to sell in our market.
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If you want to be able to have that benefit of reaching our market, then there's a tax.
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And so it's not just going to be the cost of making your product and then the profit margin.
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You're going to have the cost of making your product and shipping and those things.
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And then also eating out part of your profits is going to be a tax.
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And the tax is because you get to sell to a market that's not yours.
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You don't have a right to Americans to sell your product to Americans.
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America is our country, and we give you this right.
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So in the same way that's not just, well, anybody can enter our country today.
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but you know back in the good old days you know when we actually had laws and things like that
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um just in the same way that not just anyone can enter the the whole world doesn't have a right to
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enter our country to be citizens of our country to live in our country also to sell in our country
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and we see this scripturally even i think of nehemiah i believe it's chapter 13 which is
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part of the reason why i'm my sabbatarianism you know goes to the the extent of wanting to
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avoid the marketplace i do believe that there are occasional exceptions i try not to be overly
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legalistic about it but um you know like on on the lord's day we try to come home for lunch and
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things like that and not visit the marketplace we don't hold that as a standard for our church
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members but that is my position um in in the an application of my sabbatarianism but the reason
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why is because uh nehemiah chapter 13 is where you know people are coming on the sabbath day
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right they're not um citizens of israel they're not native citizens and so it's foreigners
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from other nations who are coming they come all the way up to the gates you know of of of jerusalem
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and uh and they're like kind of like you know pounding on the door with all their carts and
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all their goods you know they're kind of their portable market that they brought on the road
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and they bring it up to israel to sell they want to take advantage of israel's market share you
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know their their citizens and uh and the leaders say um quit coming on the sabbath we don't buy
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or sell goods and this is nehemiah 13 is right cited both in the westminster and the 1689 on
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the sabbath in regards to not visiting the marketplace that uh because the sabbath requires
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uh the fourth commandment is not just that you rest but it also says your male servants and your
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female servants and so and the sojourner sojourner who is within your gates exactly and so you're
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trying to end your your oxen for that matter and so you're it's a day of rest unto the lord a day
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for worship and a day of rest and so you're saying um not only am i not going to work but i'm also
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i'm not going to obligate others to work for me right um and if they want to work for me um i'm
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not going to let them um you know if they go work for somebody else they break the sabbath but i'm
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not going to um i'm not going to give them the basis for sabbath sabbath breaking and so anyways
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all that being said the point is from that that's you know particular to the sabbath but i think
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there's a larger application to that um nehemiah and the leaders in israel uh absolutely believe
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and there's no correction there's nothing in the text that indicates that they're wrong about this
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they absolutely are convicted and believe that foreign nations wanting to sell goods in Israel
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is their prerogative. It's the leaders of Israel's prerogative. They get to make that decision. And
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it's not just some universal citizen of the world right. So in the same way that the whole world
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doesn't have a right to come to America, much less live in America, certainly not vote in our
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elections, although they do, they also don't have a right to sell to America. That is a modern
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thought. That is a post-war thought. That was not the way that everybody thought. Like, I can sell
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my product anywhere in the world, and I don't need anybody's permission. I'm entitled to that.
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That's not the way the world works. Although, I will tell you that one of the reasons that
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the tariffs went away is because the U.S. was the powerhouse of production in the early 1900s.
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They surpassed Britain. They surpassed Europe. They were the global powerhouse of production.
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And so part of the reason why they moved away from tariffs was they thought, well, if we aren't charging you, then we can tell you, smaller country, you can't charge us any taxes, and we're just going to have the ability to sell all our goods to you that we can produce faster or cheaper or whatever.
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So we actually kind of were the ones in some ways who instigated this and said, we have the upper hand now, and so you have to not have control over whether we can bring our goods into your country also.
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But all that back to, if we're talking the two,
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I think I can make a biblical argument for tariffs
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And why a universal right to sell to any people,
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any place anything does not exist um i cannot make a biblical argument for income taxes i can
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make a biblical argument for why it's theft yeah i could do that so here you have donald j trump
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uh who is the christian prince he's not but but a blind squirrel can find an acorn from time to
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time and this is i think a biblical principle and i'm grateful for it yeah and it would be
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at the end of the day we have two choices we have two choices and i understand that yes you can vote
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third party and yes you can abstain or you can vote down the ballot but leave you know the
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president uh blank in order to send a message to the gop so that you know the gop produces for you
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a better candidate four years from now when there's 40 more um illegal you know immigrants
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have come into the country and are voting in our elections and we never have hope of winning again
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i understand that strategy obviously you can hear i'm being a bit facetious i obviously don't think
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that strategy is wise now that said um the point is uh that uh i think we only have um my view of
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voting is um that that you want to ward off uh the most destruction and evil that can be done to your
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nation right you want to use your vote to love your neighbors to protect as many of your neighbors as
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you possibly can um how you know how many of my neighbors will be protected um and and then and
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So with that, I think that, you know, you're going to have one of these two individuals
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I agree with the Exodus 18 principles or qualifications, standard, but I think it's
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misapplied to be applied to a general federal presidential election.
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I think, you know, Exodus 18 is, you know, fine men of this caliber, those who hate a
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bribe, you know, they hate covetousness, all these different things.
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they fear god but then they're going to bring them to to moses and moses is going to have vetoing
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power and so israel as the people right there's kind of your democratic representative government
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kind of sense it's not democratic like we have because it would be the men making this decision
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and not each and every individual so households are making a decision about men over tens and
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fifties and hundreds and thousands but then they bring them this is i think the necessary you know
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inference from the text they bring them to moses and moses has the power to say ah that guy doesn't
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meet the standard you know and he can hit the buzzer and veto somebody and send them away
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um i i think that exodus 18 for us applies to our primaries especially in local elections but
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even in a national election our primaries that's when we bring bring your best man bring your best
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man who meets the exodus 18 standard but then eventually it is determined um whether or not
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your man uh makes it down to the two horse race right you know and and all the ron de santis bros
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I think he's a fantastic governor, and I'd like to see him there as long as possible.
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But Ron DeSantis, when he was turned away, Ron DeSantis cannot win.
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Dusty Deavers, writing Dusty Deavers in on your ballot, I love Dusty Deavers.
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That guy is a Christian prince, but he cannot win.
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He cannot win president of the United States in this election.
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maybe in the future maybe but not this election so all that being said um there's two people who
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can win and uh and moses had the video in power you you could bring two guys and moses could say
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not neither of them and send them both away in this case uh we got to bring our guys exodus 18
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in the primaries we're down now to two um neither one of them i agree neither one of them meet the
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exodus 18 standard but they don't fail the standard equally right one fails the standard i think far
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more than the other they both failed the standard but one fails more than the other and here's the
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deal one of them will be president right one of them will be president and i have some kind of
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sway to say which one and so then i'm going to be looking at other issues right right i i think on
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on abortion sadly trump is is now politicians do lie in order to get elected so we'll see what he
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does and how he governs but in terms of his rhetoric he's certainly much further to the left
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than he was when when he was uh governing um his his last term and that absolutely disappoints me
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as a christian um who who wants to stand for the sanctity of life that that is i think that's sin
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i think it's wrong that said um the difference between uh trump and kamala i'm willing to admit
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on the issue of life is somewhat negligible in terms of real numbers the principles there is
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i think a distinct difference still to the child who who is laying there crying by themselves on
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on stainless steel table left to die as tim waltz has done with six children in his state
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right and wants to do now with the whole nation i think in principle there's a difference in kamala
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reinstating row but she has explicitly said that's what she wants to do so i think in principle there
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are some big differences i understand the abolitionist argument that in terms of raw
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numbers of babies that would die versus babies that would live the numbers there's a negligible
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difference in numbers between kamala and harris that's true so that's when you pan out
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and and i think it's hard for us as evangelicals for the longest time all of us myself included
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have been for the most part one issue voters right right you know and because that is i mean
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what issue could be bigger than that i and i get it i i get it and i i've said it and i i still
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say it i i agree with it um but when you have two candidates and neither one of them are champions
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for pro-life and their rhetoric um i think trump was in many ways but right now that he's not
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talking like that so neither one of them is is uh champions for uh then you have to look are there
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other issues and this is just one example i think it's just one example with the tariffs there's an
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income tax that the bible would call theft and there's a tariff that that nehemiah 13 and and
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several other texts that i could use um make an argument for um that is a more biblical direction
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kamala is not going to take us that direction and there's reasons why we'll get to those in a moment
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but that that right there uh is is already okay so one seems better than the other i i need to love
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my neighbors um i want to uh to ward off as much harm as possible for my neighbors who will harm
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my neighbors more kamala or trump and that's that's what we're doing immigration so if not
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pro-life let's look at immigration is one of them better on that who's the borders are right how
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many people like how many women have been r-a-p-e-d and murdered children murdered that uh that were
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known felons that karma let across the border you know and so so i'm looking at my neighbors and i'm
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looking at other issues and we haven't had to do that for a long time i want to add one thing there
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i don't know if someone should investigate this maybe no one can because you would you would be
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Epstein but I remember when Trump came into power the Democrats and the left were surprised by it
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but they did not immediately hate him do you know when the hate turned up to 10 when when he said
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we need to close our borders to child trafficking wow it was almost instantaneous and I think
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someone you know someone's got to look into that Hollywood wouldn't like that no there's someone
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put it in the comments and it is a good comment they said really all candidates candidates float
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these ideas a lot and for the record we're aware i'm reading a good book on the reconstruction
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movement in the 70s and 80s and the same thing we're sounding the alarm bells about now right
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government influence in schools government propaganda um illegal immigration like in the
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70s and the 80s rj rush dunia is sounding the warning bell like hang on this is the the
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degradation of our nation it's incredible uh in the late 1800s early 1900s the big movement they
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gathered millions actually in new york called the men's forward movement they were concerned about
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when I was doing research on it a long time ago.
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wait, but conservatives have always rang this bell.
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Conservative candidates, Republican candidates too,
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When I get in, we're gonna end the Department of Education.
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actually bush second bush jr promised to do tariffs almost at the measure or the level trump
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is wanting to do it now and as soon as he got elected boom so i get the skepticism which could
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happen with trump yeah we'll see yep i was gonna say i get the skepticism but how things change
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is is not just a one-time thing so so first you normalize that's true the discourse you have a
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serious conversation that's viewed by i don't know 40 million people hey there's actually the
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possibility here that this could be substituted in you normalize the discussion you make moves
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towards it like as trump has talked about decreasing the federal income tax we're going
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to get into some projections here in the third segment for the election trump could have a senate
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majority for his whole term and the house and so he could actually make meaningful progress
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towards rolling back income tax so i get the black pill of wait but republicans have been
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promising forever and complaining about immigration forever and saying we'll end income tax forever
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and to that to an extent yes that's true but i don't know i like to believe things are changing
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i think there's hope that um there's nothing ever happens bros right and you know it depends what
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day of the week he catches you know like sometimes i'm like yep nothing ever happens yep uh but man
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right now i feel like things are happening yeah like like every not just the presidential election
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but like in so many different ways i'm like things are happening my wife's about to have a baby i
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think that's that one's happening that one's going to another joel we might get kicked out of our
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church building you know because of the campaign thanks to write home watch and all the phone
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calls i i think that one might happen you know so like something's happening i'd like to think
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maybe also some good things some taxes being rolled back nate real quick go up in the chat
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i want to call somebody out um positively uh up up up up there you go daniel daniel uh shout out
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yeah daniel woodward uh woodward he said uh even as a one issue voter the fact that we are likely
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replacing two supreme court justices in this term would favor trump as he has a history of putting
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better candidates in place and he's right like that's what did you see the ruling this afternoon
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supreme court ruled that virginia is allowed to remove the illegal aliens from their voter rules
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good which the local court had said they're not allowed to do so there's the supreme court
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yeah five four decision but still amazing six three plus three lives i wanted to let
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insane so but like if trump hadn't appointed three justices his last term we want to get that
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ruling yep and uh those are the things that elevate to the supreme court there's a lot of
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other things that we don't even see because they get a better uh local ruling right because uh
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trump has appointed uh it's not just supreme court justices but he he appointed it with something
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200 something different you know justices around uh the country and so for him to be able to get
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two more um is just i like really it's just a mercy from god that we don't deserve and we
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replace at least alito and thomas the oldest but most conservative uh judges on the supreme court
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so you're looking at it you're thinking long term well who's going to replace these guys they've
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been stalwart conservative well the election of trump would give the opportunity uh i like
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blanking on his name the one who had the allegations kavanaugh like brett kavanaugh
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good appointment amy barrett 50 50 on but the point is we would get to replace these not with
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liberal judges is the point that whatever would be appointed there would not be liberals all right
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do we want to say anything else about taxes and tariffs well the only thing that i want to say
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just as a like i'm not an economist but um although i might give some economic predictions
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eventually here because i do think i i the nothing ever happens bros are going to be i think very
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disappointing for the remainder of 2024 the next two months i think some crazy things are going to
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happen with markets as well um but all that being said this is my economic sense take it for what
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it's worth um i think that uh because a lot of times with covid i remember like i what i try to
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do is i'll try to pan out and and um get answers for something that that i can't find because it's
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like i'm not an epidemiologist i'm not going to be able to to be you know study viruses and like i
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just there's not enough time in the day to be an expert in everything you know so that's why
00:41:59.260
typically so you know division of labor and society has experts in different fields and
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you're supposed to be able to trust them so what do you do when you can't you know and well you
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have to be able to at least get like a the smell test you know a general sense of um is this poison
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that i'm going to be putting in my wife's uh in children's veins um or is it not you know and i i
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i decided it was poison and so we did not do it you know with the mrna uh vaccines but like i
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needed to at least know that and i couldn't trust a lot of the experts in order to give me you know
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an honest answer so then i'll rely on the smell test here's the smell test this is how i i do it
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sometimes. Cause people will sometimes say, you've said this before, Michael, like, like, man,
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Joel, you have like this sixth sense of being able to, you know, pan out, get the 30,000 foot view
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and somehow just call it. And one of the ways that I call it is if, if I can't answer the question,
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what I I'll, I'll just skip that for a moment and move on to the question why. And so I'll try to
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get to motive. And so I'll, I'll think of who are, I don't know exactly. I'm not an expert with the
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issue, but instead of the, what let's look at the who and try to determine the why. So who are the
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players on the field what are the different sides who are they what do they represent um and and why
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would one side want this is there an incentive right so just like a court case you're trying to
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you know if it's a homicide or whatever you're trying to establish um motive you have to have
00:43:19.380
it to convict them yeah exactly yep and so all that being said um when i think of who who doesn't
00:43:25.360
want tariffs i guess is my right you know who doesn't want tariffs um who who would prefer
00:43:30.480
income taxes who would prefer to tax um every single citizen of these united states and and
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make us carry uh the the uh the government burden um versus um corporations having a choice because
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here's the thing there's no tax on the corporations if you do it here in america um but if you do it
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in america you have to pay american wages right and so that does eat into your profit margins
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you're going to have less profit you know to be fair i think he did say down to 15 for american
00:44:02.000
corporations yeah you're right yeah yeah so okay down to 15 so you're gonna have a smaller tax
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for any corporation here in america that does you know that manufactures and distributes here in
00:44:10.500
america um they're going to pay less of a tax they're going to have a tax incentive far less
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of a tax um and so uh they're you know but they're going to have less of a tax but higher wages
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because they're going to be paying americans and americans need to meet a certain standard of you
00:44:24.020
know a cost of living and those kinds of things um and and are going to expect a higher wage and so
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um but or you can take it overseas and um take it to china or take it wherever and pay you know
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pay people you know pennies you know peanuts uh you know two dollars an hour and blah blah blah
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and do those kinds of things uh uh but you're gonna have in that case you're gonna have to pay
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the tariff is is what trump was saying and it could be a 200 percent tariff or whatever um so
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why would kamala why would like the pelosis why would the bidens why would uh chuck schumer why
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would you know because when you think about like who doesn't want a tariff and it's not you know
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those are all democrats but like let's name the other democrats liz cheney you know and like um
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whoever whoever else who are um who are the guys who switch yeah and the bushes and you know blah
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blah blah um all these people they're all they're just it's just controlled opposition two sides of
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one coin it's it's it's the total state it's uh it's the regime why do they all like uh income
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tax because they're rich not by actually creating anything none of these people like it's not that
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they have their own businesses and um and we're we're making a good you know a good uh american
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product you know the old-fashioned way and selling it you know here in american markets
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i know these people are rich from um the global gdp they're rich from uh stock the stock market
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they're they're rich from investments and um these kinds of things and so for them um for them to
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keep and continue to build their wealth uh they need uh companies that my point is they're betting
00:45:59.660
on on bezos and and amazon they're not betting on the american people that's right the american
00:46:05.040
people thriving and going up the ladder economically doesn't make them richer what makes
00:46:10.660
them richer is not people but companies they need amazon to be able to constantly go and here's the
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thing if we did this uh initially uh the stock market might go down a little bit the gdp might
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go down a little bit it would take some getting used to there would be an economic breather i
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don't want to say crash necessarily there could be but definitely a um a breath in the market and
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there would be corrections and there would be these because companies would have to get used to
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all right we have thinner profit margins now because we have to pay bigger wages or we have
00:46:42.320
higher taxes now because we're doing it overseas but now we have this tariff and so any way you
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slice it the american people would thrive um but these fortune 500 companies or like the magnificent
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seven like the magnificent seven that you know um nancy pelosi you see her moving you know making
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her stock trades and these kinds of things and buying more in video but you know um these kinds
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of companies would would uh the people who work for them would do better the company as a machine
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as as this you know non-person personless entity would do worse its profit margins would be
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smaller and the wealth of our elite is built off of companies not people it's built off of machines
00:47:26.920
not human beings they actually they need the american public the citizenry to suffer so that
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the show must go on so that the gdp keeps going up so that amazon the machine they need amazon
00:47:41.320
the machine to succeed with the highest profit margins possible with the lowest wages and the
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lowest you know this that and the other cost the lowest bottom line for the highest profit margins
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that's what nancy pelosi needs um and what she uh for her wealth to continue and to build um
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but what trump is talking about who already has wealth right you know trump is saying i just i
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just want my people my kinsmen my fellow americans i'd like for them to be able to share in some of
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this wealth too like we once had like we once had that's a better person do you know that the
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one of the very first things that the u.s government did in 1786 was pass um the tariff
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act or sorry 1789 that was one of the very first things that they did as a government and that was
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how they thought fit to fund the operations of the government right interestingly this discussion
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goes back to medieval um england where there was such a thing as an income tax but it was
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a tax on what comes in to an estate it was never ever ever an english common law designed to be a
00:48:45.500
tax on the worker for his daily wages it was just you have an estate the king or the lord has to be
00:48:52.760
supported so what comes into the estate some of that is going to go to the lord the income tax
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and when they passed the income tax originally actually some of the people who passed it
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originally had no conception that this would be leveraged against the average daily worker for his
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for his labor and his wages right there is one entity that can demand of your labor that is god
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because god is the one who gives you the ability to work and the land and blesses it that's the
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only entity that at a core level can make that demand of you 10 of what you make will come to
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me god can make that because he gives it to you but the government not so much right
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we obviously titled this video trump and rogan they're they're kind of talking about biblical
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principles and too many christians have yet to put the puzzle piece in on health right so we think
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about training and exercising everyone's favorite verse where paul says to timothy that bodily
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training is of some value some account but godliness is of infinite value for the life
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ahead and so they use that to kind of say like yeah you work out do your pilates but godliness
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and piety and all of these things, those are the real value. And that is true. That is in
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scripture, that godliness is of infinite worth for all of eternity. But Paul doesn't say physical
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training is of no value, minimal value. He's like, it is of some value. And the Bible is not a book
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of several, three or four letters from Paul. It's 2,000 pages, and there's so much in the Bible.
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I'm going to read about seven verses here from the Old Testament, especially. The default
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assumption of the bible is that health fertility strength vitality endurance that these things
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are blessings that they are a good that they're to be pursued um you know another blessing
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a legacy a good name oh my word i i just real fast real fast just real fast and on the flip side
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one of the harshest and most severe judgments temporal earthly judgments that god ever
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deals out to people is um that they would be forgotten yeah that he would wipe out
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the remembrance of their name and the earth so certainly we care first and foremost that our
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name is written in the lamb's book of life for the life to come um but everything that you're
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listing if i was to put like one heading on that right so fertility right so that you would have
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what descendants posterity you know uh so whether it's fertility or physical strength or or being
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able to achieve wealth so that you could pass it down to your children's children. As Proverbs
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says, a wise man leaves an inheritance to his children's children. What you're talking about,
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all those things wrapped up in a nutshell with one word is legacy. And part of legacy is earthly
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remembrance. Not just that your name's written in the Lamb's Book of Life. We never want anything
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less than that. That's first, of course. Seek ye first the kingdom of heaven and all these earthly
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things will be added unto you but there are earthly things and they are a blessing and they
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are added unto us and one of them is godly offspring that would continue the remembrance
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and the legacy the glory of our name it's the glory of christ's name first and foremost but
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there is a glory of kings and a glory of men and a glory for women and a glory for children
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there's a glory for trees for goodness sake there's a glory the glory of every single element
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of god's created order is doing righteously rightly that which god has has designed them to
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do and so we yes we want to pursue glory we want eternal rewards in the life to come salvation
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which is received by grace alone through faith alone in christ alone name in the book of life
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in heaven but i also make no apologies i want my name if god would be so gracious it would have to
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be his grace and not just me and my own strength it'll have to be god's grace and it would be for
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the purpose of achieving god's glory predominantly supremely but i hope that god would use me in such
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a way to live in a way to parent in a way to pastor in a way um that 500 years from now that
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that my name would not be completely eradicated from the earth that it wouldn't be forgotten
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and also last thing i'll say troy is a great movie and movie quotes are fun and you know what
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um in certain serious contexts probably not always best to use a movie quote i'll own that one but
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um the meme it's like he's doing the meme right now sometimes i find myself doing the meme and
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For the record, my bachelor's is in biology, neuroscience, and my master's is in public
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Your genes, what you pass down to your children, is not just eye color, pin color.
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You pass down, the mother passes down, for instance, mitochondrial health.
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So if you destroy your health in your 20s, and then you have three or four children,
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you're passing on to them worse genetic material for their mitochondrial health if you abuse drugs
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and alcohol in your 20s as a man for example you can affect your sperm health and what's passed on
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down to them you talk about leaving a legacy your children literally will bear some of the physical
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legacy of the way you live your life of whether you live it godly right whether you destroy your
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body so wes real quick just let the listeners know i know you've said in the past but we always have
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new people tuning in what do you do um uh so i work in life sciences research and and where did
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you you never brag about this i'm i'm going i'm making west say this i'm making him brag this is
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not him where did you go to school uh columbia for neuroscience and behavior and you're a military
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man yep four years in the marine corps west is a good dude um and west is more credentialed than i
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I have the silver tongue and a silver tongue and should we say balls of steel those are my
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characteristics and by God's grace it's gotten me far in life it's gotten me in plenty of trouble
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but it but God has used it for his glory in many ways and and I hope by God's grace to continue to
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be sanctified and that there would be more good and less and less bad but I've never been a
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credentialed guy and you are Wes is highly intelligent so is Michael both of them very
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well read um but you're you're highly intelligent and i remember talking to you and it's just
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fascinating so i'd like you to flesh it out a little bit more but i remember you applying it
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to uh churchill um the chief villain of war no i'm just kidding he was a warmonger i really you
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know we like pat buchanan's book we think that he has a lot of good insights there uh hitler
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churchill and the unnecessary war uh we wouldn't go quite as far maybe you know as as um marty
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made daryl cooper i like daryl cooper too just for the record but uh when he was on talker he
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said the chief villain of world war ii and that upset a lot of people i don't think that um i
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think that he was a warmonger and i think he uh he extended the war um and crushed uh germany in
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ways that didn't have to happen that said i don't think he was the chief villain i would probably
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lay that at the feet of stalin and and hitler and a few others so all that being said here's the
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point churchill is not quite a hero for me he's just not um but he's also not um some arch villain
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um but this is one thing that he is um he was a very eccentric man who like played with action
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figures as he's doing this war kind of thing and sometimes wouldn't wear pants you know and would
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take you know regular naps about the day optional and smoke like a chimney you know spurgeon famously
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said you know every single sunday he'd come out of the church and he'd be smoking like as he's
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giving the uh the pastoral you know he would do the benediction and then run out so that he could
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catch the congregation each person and shake their hand you know give them a blessing as they're
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leaving the church and he'd always have a cigar in his hand and one time an elderly woman asked
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every single sunday i see you with a cigar don't you think that's excessive and he said no
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and uh and she said well then what would be excessive it's every single time i see you
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you have a cigar what what could be more excessive than that and he said if i had two cigars
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so um but my point is churchill he he might have had two cigars he's the dude smoked like a chimney
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he drank like a fish generally his first drink it was a mix of scotch and water or whiskey and
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water right when he woke up but he was in his 90s right well he lived to 90 so he does he has
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amphetamines during the war smokes five to ten cigars a day is drinking whiskey all throughout
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the day and i mean some of you you like you're millennials and you just turn 30 and uh and you
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have an ipa and you're hurting last morning oh yeah i can't drink ipa one i the hardest thing
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drinking ipas is you have to tell your dad look them in the eyes and tell him you're gay so i
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don't you know for that reason i can't i can't do it um but beyond that beyond just uh it literally
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has estrogen um it is the most estrogenic of all beers to nate that is true i'm so sorry but beyond
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that nate's back that nate loves ipas and he's like i can't believe they're just dragging me
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right now publicly this stream is going off um so but all that being said nathan let me just say
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it again nathan drinks ipa okay so um all that being said the point is you're right like it's
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like i remember telling people i when i hit uh 30 i was like because we would go to pizza you know
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pizzerias and so you're eating pizza and then you know they have craft beer and drinking ipas
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and i was like dude i cannot eat a loaf of bread and then drink a loaf of bread right like i just
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that's that those years of my life are done i can't i can't live like this yeah so well the
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point being man how does how does churchill smoke and drink and do stimulants and live a very
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stressful life and live till 90 years old and then you have people in the best of health and
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there's a coming to cancer this that or the other and my argument that i would make there's a great
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book deep nutrition that talks about epigenetics we can build up through generations of faithful
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godly living that is harmonious with the world that god has made you can build up a type of bank
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account of good health and so you think about churchill he came from a line of lords and strong
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men and they built up resilience at not just a psychological level or training level at a
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biological chemical genetic level that faithfulness and strength and stalwartness and undergoing
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difficulty and persevering through it actually builds up at the genetic level so genes genes
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can be turned on and off they can be down regulated they can be upregulated so like proteins that help
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your eyes see all of these things they can be expressed to greater degrees or they can be
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destroyed through genetic degradation and not express it as well. And you're going blind by
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your thirties. So Churchill, as an example, I'm guessing his ancestors and the way they lived,
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healthy, robust, took on challenges, conquered, overcame them. And so he was able to live his
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whole life and drink and smoke to a greater degree than the average millennial and across
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New York city and lived in better health than individuals that in their lifetime took great
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care but were passed down a empty bank account so to speak but that faithfulness again from
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generations leading up to it affects you and it's not just everyone starts off with a blank slate
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and they can just muscle through it like no it how your grandparents live how your parents live
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matter and then you will be a great great grandparent if god blesses you with children
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great grandparent a parent like then that actually matters to you so faithfulness
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is so much more than just, well, this impacts me,
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No, it's a cross to your children, to your grandchildren,
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Do not be wise, this is Proverbs 3, 7 through 8.
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Praise the Lord, my soul, and forget not all his benefits, skipping ahead,
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who satisfies your desires with good things so that your youth is renewed like the eagles.
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For through wisdom your days will be many and years will be added to your life.
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When we say make America healthy again, getting the poison out of the food supply,
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the poison out of these fabrics, the poison out of the air, the vaccines out of the body,
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that stuff matters it impacts real people so rfk junior not a christian but by god i think he's
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going to do a lot of good if he's appointed to take over public health and that's what joe and
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and donald trump are going to say so we've already talked economically now we're going to talk about
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biologically the physical component and i've got a few thoughts on this like so we're going to watch
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the clip but then i want to demonstrate for the audience how um all this is rooted in the gospel
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the gospel affects everything and i remember when i was coming into you know post-millennial
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um all of christ for all of life kind of thought process you know and like i i that i was like well
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man like it's not just uh you know uh the home and the church you know but like wow like god's
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design for men and women actually um actually extends to the civil magistrate and the public
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sphere and oh wow like um uh even uh economics and when it comes to money and these kinds of
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things that like biblical principles actually generate wealth. And that's not a prosperity
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gospel. This is one of the things I remember I had to caveat so many times, and I'll do it again
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because there's always new people who are jumping on the train. Here's the deal. The prosperity
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gospel in a nutshell is this. The prosperity gospel is not that Joel Osteen teaches people
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if you work really hard and you study really hard and you do this and you do that, and here's all
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these principles you will be wealthy that's not that's not the prosperity gospel but joel osteen
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and kenneth copeland and these kinds of guys what they're telling people is um if you just have faith
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in your faith they're they're actually saying um you can be lazy right you don't it's not about
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hard work um the uh hard work bringing about not always so it's not a guarantee the bible doesn't
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guarantee this uh here's the key word remember this word ordinarily right okay because you can
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work hard and if you're in a corrupt system if you're a citizen of north korea and you work hard
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right you might still be poor yeah but in in america a country like ours that's really got
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some problems but still has a lot of freedom and a lot of blessing by god's grace in a country like
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ours if you're poor most often it's because you're lazy yep it's because you're lazy now that doesn't
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mean everybody's going to be a millionaire but when i say poor i mean if you're homeless if
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you're on the street it's probably because you either have some kind of psychotic uh like
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legitimate mental issue, or you're a drug addict, or you're lazy. That pretty much comprises all
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the homeless. It's not people who are like, I'm working as hard as I can, you know, 50 hours a
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week, you know, and I have to live outside. Like, I don't know anybody like that in America. So my
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point is, when we talk about the gospel affecting everything, and as it affects economics, biblical
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principles actually do ordinarily generate wealth. And what we're talking about is hard work
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brings uh hard work is just one example uh hard work in the realm of vocation is just one example
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of obedience and what the bible teaches is the the overarching 30 000 foot principle again and
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again is that obedience brings blessing it brings blessing in the life to come guaranteed and it
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brings blessing temporally in this life ordinarily so guaranteed blessing in life to come ordinarily
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blessing in this life as well and that's across the board uh and that includes economic it also
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includes physical so you can obey god and get hit by a truck that's true you can obey god and get
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cancer that's true and anybody who says you know if you just have enough faith then you know health
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you'll you'll be wealthy you don't have to work hard you can be wealthy by just believing you can
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be healthy by just believing that's not what we're saying here right what we're saying is um ordinarily
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there are always extenuating circumstances god is sovereign and he does what he determines is right
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and sometimes he determines that we suffer for his glory and for our eternal good and and at
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at the cost of our temporal good we acknowledge that 100 we would never say anything against that
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but what we're saying essentially is we're now taking the conversation from economics and we're
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applying it to health but it's the same principle where ultimately what we're talking about is
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obedience obedience in the economic realm means hard work in your vocation ordinarily generates
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wealth now what we're going to talk about is hard work in in the realm of your health will
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ordinarily generate um lasting health and here's the crazy thing that that wes is bringing in with
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the epigenetic conversation is we would think that well but with wealth that can at least be passed
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down so it's not just that i can be wealthy but a good man like like the problem say a wise man
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leaves an inheritance for his children's children there's a financial piece that certainly that's
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spiritual certainly a wise man leaves a spiritual inheritance we're not saying it's anything less
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we're just saying it's i think it's more and so leaving a spiritual inheritance first leaving a
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monetary inheritance also but the crazy thing is now we are discovering actively discovering in
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the realm of science that there's a way to even live leave a physical health uh um inheritance
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that you actually by the way you live your life and the health decisions you make your diet
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your exercise all these kinds of things what what poison you put in your body what poison you don't
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put in your body um you actually can be setting the stage not just for you to live a long life
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but for your great great grandchildren to live a long life yeah and my point is this god will not
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be mocked a man reaps what he sows though all we're discovering in the realm of economics in
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the realm of science and all these different things is oh my goodness uh god was right god
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was right god was right the gospel affects everything and the flip side is also true the
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last thing i'll say real quick if you're in a country that for a thousand years has worshiped
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demons and instead of eating cows which are nutritious and good beef you use cow feces
01:10:07.580
in order to cook with and things like that and the cows roam free because
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they're a deity of sorts and you worship them um or if you're a country that uh is practicing
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cannibalism right you know or these kinds of things and or if if you're a people that drugs
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are are are a core staple of your people's rituals and customs and pyote and all these
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kinds of things and opium and um and and it's not just you did it and it affected your health
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as an individual person but but uh you did it and your your parents did it and your grandparents
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did your great-grandparents your ancestors for a thousand years have been eating things that are
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not good to eat and living in ways that are not good and that doesn't even bring into the case
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like we did the whole episode of statistics on sexual behaviors and how that affects your health
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men receiving within their own bodies the due penalty for their sin romans one that's a thing
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that is a thing god will not be mocked his word is true so if you are living in uh sexually
01:11:12.600
unhealthy ways um eating uh unhealthy things um chemicals that are unhealthy um vaccines that are
01:11:20.740
unhealthy drug use that like and there's all these kinds of things and and if you're a part of a
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culture and people that has done these kinds of things for a thousand years would there be an
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effect like would would there would there be an effect on your health would there be an effect
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on your lifespan where there also is a question that is, I think, biblically permissible to ask
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because you're not talking about something that God wrote in the stars as a biased favoritism
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of one people over another, but you're talking about habits and behaviors in God's world with
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rules that God set that ultimately all stems from worship. It all stems from worship. It is
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religious you know what's super religious diet diet is extremely religious um and every religion
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has their dietary restrictions some are good some are bad and so the way that you live sexually the
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way you live with food and diet and all these kinds of things and with drugs um if if you don't
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worship demons and your ancestors for 1500 years all the way back to constantine you know or a
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thousand years at least going back to king alfred if your ancestors have worshipped the triune god
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i remember reading and i'm so sorry i remember reading to my girls just just a few months back
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i was reading to the treasure island and ben uh who is it ben dunn or ben gunn ben gunn he's he's
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you know marauded uh um on the island for six years and as soon as he's found because you know
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jim hawkins and everybody lands on the island as soon as he finds jim hawkins the first one of the
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first things he asked he said i wasn't raised to be a pagan you know my mom raised me as a good
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christian boy and he said and for six uh these six years i've been without a christian diet
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yep please do you have any cheese i remember that or or um butter or eggs yep um he and he calls it
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in the writing christian diet this was just the normal way and i and i it's like well that's
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fantastic yeah but but a real person wrote the book and that's my point is that within european
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particularly an anglo conception for a thousand years um with european christian nations they
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wouldn't just say a good diet or a healthy diet a christian diet they viewed it as as worship it
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was worship affects everything how you invest how you work how you build wealth how you eat what you
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don't eat how monogamy monogamy in marriage that's not going to spread diseases and all these kinds
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of things and and if you don't have that because your culture it all stems from worship and your
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culture worships demons and that affects eating the diet of demons sharing in the table of demons
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having orgies to appease the demons and human sacrifice all these kinds of things then guess
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what um you're not it's not just oh spiritually um there's a problem no physically there's going
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to be physical results of that physically you're going to have lower lifespans physically you're
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not going to be as healthy physically there's going to be more diseases and physically because
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you are quite literally what you eat. And over a thousand years, not just, you know, it happens in
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15 minutes, but over generations, your diet and all these things constructs your body, your health.
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It also affects your mind. It affects your mind. And so those who have been worshiping the triune
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God with good dietary practices and good customs and practicing monogamy in marriage and not doing
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a bunch of drugs and having a christian diet um and and and engaging in exercise over a thousand
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years with whatever that would be i don't know 40 generations 50 like um yeah i i don't think
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it's crazy to say your descendants would be healthier and they might even have um they might
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they might even be a little smarter actually at a biological level that's something and not because
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is written in the stars, not that it always has to be that way. The debt can be shuffled. It can
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be rearranged. In God's providence, if the West apostatizes, then over time, you mess around,
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you find out. And I think the West will suffer greatly. We will be unhealthy, we'll be poor,
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and we'll be dumb. And if, by God's grace, Vodibachum is successful in Zambia,
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it's not going to happen in his generation. But I think over 200 years, 300, over time,
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zambia could be uh not just a powerhouse for theology but a titan of civilization right
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period across the board with with uh higher intelligence and innovation and all the that's
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so the point is it matters the gospel affects everything our faith affects everything who you
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worship affects everything and we're not just leaving inheritance for our children's children
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spiritually but also monetarily and also even physically it's crazy to think it's crazy to
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think how and that's why yes over the last few years as i've come into these convictions from
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reading the bible that's why yeah i got passionate about talking about these things and that's why
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we do podcasts on these topics and while we're talking we're going to show this clip with rfk
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why it matters for trump to win because you get rfk and your kids might live longer and i'd like
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my kids not to die sooner crazy you know crazy right these things matter so do you guys have
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anything before we share the clip nope let's go for it there are chemicals and ingredients that
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are our food that are illegal in other countries because they've been shown to be toxic there's
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pesticides and herbicides and there's a lot of shit that's been sprayed on our food that really
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is unnecessary and there's a lot of health consequences that people are suffering from
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a lot of these things and to this chart for you beautiful because i had a feeling you'd be asking
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me thank you look at this chart these are healthier countries look where the united
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states is i'm going to send this to rfk jr so this is uh well something along the i was actually
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talking to rfk today and he told me that more than 70 percent of young men are ineligible for
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the military because of their health i could see it that's crazy a lot of it's obesity here's the
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But RFK is going to be very, you know, I think he's a great guy.
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And are you guys, are you completely committed to have him a part of your administration?
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But the only thing I want to be a little careful about with him is the environmental.
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So I'm going to sort of keep him out of a little.
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But I've got to be a little bit careful with the liquid gold, you know?
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But listen, there's plenty of good work that could be done if you focus on health.
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Here's the one that's my all-time favorite, though.
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Do you have anyone that is pressuring you to not work with him?
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Have there been people that are reaching RFK Jr.?
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I would say that, and I think in many ways they've done a good job, in many ways they've done a bad job.
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But I would say that the big pharma wasn't thrilled when they heard that, you know, I have a relationship.
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I've actually always gotten along very well with him.
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I mean, he really is, you know, he thinks we spend a fortune on pesticides and all this stuff.
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And then you end up with that chart is a terrible chart.
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When you look at where we are compared to other countries that don't spend 10 cents.
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But, yeah, I've had some people that aren't exactly thrilled.
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Well, certainly if there have been some pharmaceutical drugs that have been prescribed that have negative consequences that these people have been profiting off of.
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And then you have a guy like RFK Jr. who spends an enormous amount of time highlighting those things.
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you could see how they'd be very reluctant to have you support him i would say that's an
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understatement yeah all right we actually have that chart that uh he my favorite thing about
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that clip was when he was amazed that joe rogan's producer was able to pull that chart and put it
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on the screen i'm amazed yeah yeah there it is just pulled it up nathan nathan just got but no
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trump is like he's just i was looking at michael we were talking to he's just your typical grandpa
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you know he's like oh wow you're uh your guy look at that he just pulled up that chart wow amazing
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trump probably to be fair he probably has a newfound like an almost unhuman appreciation
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for charts oh yes you know since he saved his life yeah all right all right so here's here's
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this chart that he referenced and you know for what it's worth here it is and it shows um i think
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this goes through 2018, that if you move to the right, that's the amount of money that's spent
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on average per person per year on healthcare, on healthcare-related things to keep them healthy,
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to keep them living a long time. And then it shows what the life expectancy, the average life
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expectancy is. So this goes from 1970 to 2018. And what this shows is that we spend, I mean,
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almost twice as much as the next uh nation behind us switzerland and then twice as much or more
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than almost every other developed nation these are developed nations guys this is not you know
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some third world country these are developed nations we spend way more per person in america
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and our average life expectancy at least as of 2018 was what is that five five years less right
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yeah if you are a good that's you know uh watson talks about this in um his book the ten commandments
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and all the reformers i i you know watson's one of them i like watson because he's easier to read
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everybody wants to start with john owen john owen's probably the hardest puritan to read i mean
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one sentence is like two and a half pages long and so um god bless john owen i've read mortification
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of sin um he's great but uh start start with somebody like watson so thomas watson uh in the
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10 commandments and the fifth commandment he talks about honoring fathers and he talks about
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different types of fathers familial fathers ancient fathers because everybody thinks you know
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uh your generation isn't obeying the fifth commandment because they think that fathers
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honoring fathers must mean and only mean our immediate fathers aka uh the older generation
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like boomers and uh you guys disagree with boomers a lot you know and some of you blue-eyed you know
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red avatar guys uh you're disrespectful to boomers on x and i would say hey guys try to be respectful
01:22:50.240
but you absolutely can't disagree um and a lot of times here's the irony in disagreeing with our
01:22:55.160
immediate fathers we're doing what watson actually says he's baked into the fifth commandment a part
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of the commandment of god is we're agreeing with um ancient fathers like what do you do if if your
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immediate fathers are actually standing in rebellion um to every single father that preceded
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them um then the only way to honor um all of your fathers is actually um to you're going to have to
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disagree now how you do that you need to be charitable but you're going to have to disagree
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with your immediate father so there's familial fathers there's ancient father there's spiritual
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fathers ecclesiastical fathers in the church um but then also thomas watson gets to um
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civil fathers and calvin you know talks about this calvin talks about like as a nursing father
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um that you know the civil magistrate uh is supposed to be a father and and i'm watching
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this and again trump is not the christian prince uh there's a lot of problems with trump but i'm
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watching this clip as i listened to the interview you know i listened to the whole thing but i
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remember thinking like yeah that's that's what a father would think he'd think um how can my people
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yep that god has ordained me an authority over um their their um quality of life is my
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responsibility um and they're dying sooner than they used to yep and it's costing more of their
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money as we tax them to keep them alive to keep them from dying than it ever did and more than
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it's costing all the other civil fathers of all their citizens what is going on here we've got
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to fix this my children are dying i'm a civil father i have an obligation more obligation to
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preserve their that's how that's how fathers think he it's it's the it's the freaking meme dude it's
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the uh it's the heat the heat map yeah um kamala harris you know who she she thinks like a mother
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too she's not one that's a that's another difference trump actually has children and
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grandchildren she doesn't um because she opted for wearing you know a pantsuit via a boss lady
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you know and instead of actually being a mother but um but she has still that she can't help she's
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created in the image of god as a female she has a motherly instinct uh here's the problem you know
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who it's applied to everyone except for you right she she has motherly concern deep motherly concern
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um for those who are illegally crossing your border yeah she has deep motherly concern for um
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for you know anyone like her who also doesn't want to be a literal mother and wants to murder
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their baby um she has deep motherly concern for ukraine deep motherly concern for pretty much
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anybody except for you trump actually talks about me he talks about america when i say me i don't
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just mean me and i don't just mean men and i don't just mean white men i mean americans trump
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actually cares about americans and thinks like a civil father is he is he wrong on certain things
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yes but there's two choices and trump is so much better yeah yeah yeah so i mean some of the some
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of the reasons why the american life expectancy is declining the big one is obesity right and
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i you know i'm the pot calling the cuddle black here i have some weight to lose but obesity is
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is over 70 percent of americans overweight more than a third of them are obese and obesity is
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linked to so many other health risks, right? And so this has more to do than just diet, but certainly
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not getting nutritious foods, not getting exercise, not using our bodies the way that God designed
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them to. The one thing that I do want to point out that is a little bit in our favor is our infant
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mortality rate is the highest of any developed nation in the world. One of the reasons for that
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is number one, we have the most advanced NICUs where we can deliver babies at 26 weeks and keep
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them alive and number two we still to some degree have a value of trying to preserve those young
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lives at least if the mother wants our mortality rate is the lowest you're saying the fewest
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infants nope we lose more babies than any other nation our nick use because we're willing to try
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and deliver a baby at 26 weeks um or we're not going to just abort like like even though we are
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aborting nation a lot of women still love the child in their womb and would say no let's try
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it let's not just abort it it has down syndrome you know there are there are developed nations
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who have claimed that they've eradicated down syndrome eradicated birth defects they don't
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have children who die young part of it is because they just abort them as soon as they find and
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that those and those abortions do not count as infant mortality rate yeah so that's good to know
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i just wanted to say too i don't think it's a coincidence that you because any society is run
01:27:44.160
by men even if supposedly angela merkel is president of like it's men that make laws it's
01:27:49.680
men that build societies it's men that protect it with the military every society is run by men i
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don't think it's coincidence 80s the 90s the 2000s that as men have been systematically under attack
01:27:59.680
through these things like diet through these things like um like smut and stuff that comes
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across on television that pacify and placate as they've been forced to take middle management
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positions and sit there under fluorescent lights for eight hours a day and be lectured by the hr
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lady i don't think it's coincidence as you downgrade men you make them weaker you make them
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fatter you make them softer you make them less assertive you make them less aggressive you take
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away their do that you take away their nicotine you ban their flavors you got to talk about
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nicotine a little bit we're going to talk about guys in the chat asking so hold on um but you do
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that and then you get a bunch of men that are willing to let a kamala harris take the reins
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of their party that are willing to let women take the lead that won't stand up and fight against
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the illegal immigrant that's coming into their neighborhood taking it over executing violence
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got guys coming onto the subway harassing haranguing there's women complaining like why
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aren't men standing up doing anything well the policies that you support for the last 30 years
01:28:57.040
have made sure that there is no man strong enough aggressive enough and manly enough
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to do something and the one who was because he was a united states marine is about to go on trial
01:29:07.520
daniel penny and so all that to say why would men stand up but you stand up and uh you got a good
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chance of going to jail yeah so make america healthy again man if men were stronger if you
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got men back to even just health levels we had i don't know 50 years ago you would not just see men
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being more fit and living longer lives you'd see them voting more conservative you'd see them more
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active in civil office because it's all connected soft men that love proverbs talks so much about
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gluttony and laziness soft men that love comfort are not going to do uncomfortable things like
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dusty deavers getting on his feet knocking on doors fighting taking all the flack that he did
01:29:48.840
to be senators they're going to sit back they're going to say oh there's a lion in the street
01:29:52.320
they're going to put their hand in the ball someone else has got to do that job so it's it's
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not just a matter of well we want people to live longer we do want people to have kids yep we do
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but also when you fix those things you know who you know who gets really right wing men who have
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families they go from being single to then married having children it's also the trajectory as they
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get more right wing they realize how important these things are they realize that their children
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will inhabit and inherit the world that they set up for them so it all encompassing make america
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healthy again and i think it's going to have a lot of great benefits in the years to come
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all right well so i mean we could really go on and on and um we're not going to uh shockingly
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but the point is it was remarkable to me that these two issues in particular stood out as such
01:33:21.860
biblical ideas right such godly principles and not that again they're not the godly men
01:33:28.120
but god's principles are timeless and they apply and so i was just really surprised to hear man
01:33:34.140
trump and joe rogan are sounding more christian than a lot of christian pastors on some of these
01:33:38.940
practical issues of wealth and economics the christian pastors are pietists they just can't
01:33:43.940
go there like every time i you see you know it's like there's like a calendar like like protestants
01:33:50.820
the reform world we have our own church calendar apparently it's unspoken it's not written down
01:33:55.120
but it's like um you know each month it's like uh this is the month for posting of uh why men
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and women should dress nicely for church yeah and and the usual suspects are going to come out and
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like uh you uh god come as you are and blah blah blah you know and then like guys will literally
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do like little videos of wearing like short pink shorts going going into church and thinking that
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like it like they're owning yeah they're owning that yeah i'm like oh my good and these are like
01:34:22.980
conservative guys and i'm like my yeah i yeah like 95 degrees two weeks ago and i wore a suit
01:34:30.020
to church amen like um yeah so like and then you'll see the things about like why a man should
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own a gun right you know and then you'll see the things about like um women making sourdough or
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you'll see the thing about um eating healthy or working out you know all those kinds of things
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and but my point is it's always the same guys right and they're christian pastors yeah they're
01:34:52.660
christian pastors who will come out and just disparage it um and i've yet to see the post
01:34:59.660
where somebody's saying um uh working out gets you to heaven i get you to heaven or matters more
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than a relationship with christ or i i've never but they're just saying guys these things matter
01:35:10.740
yep and so and you know when we when we talk about how christendom is falling apart
01:35:14.820
i still remember i won't say who but a guy in my past who was like well what's the big deal about
01:35:19.420
that. Like, we don't understand what we're losing. We're losing a system that aligned largely with
01:35:25.560
God's order that was designed for human prosperity, right? And so, we're losing that. And it doesn't
01:35:31.900
just come back overnight. It doesn't come back in the generation. So, anyway, we didn't want to
01:35:35.780
leave you all just there. We have, Wes has done a little bit of research, some White Pill Wednesday
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research, potentially. And so, just going to talk about the election next week. By the way,
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it is next Tuesday, in case you didn't know. Go out and vote if you haven't done so already.
01:35:49.420
and if joel's baby doesn't show up there's not conflicting circumstances we will be live streaming
01:35:54.140
in the evening as results come in lord willing yeah so please don't clear all your plans right
01:35:59.420
clear most of them the plan is to live stream uh the election um so so yeah it's tentative so the
01:36:05.820
the due date please be praying a couple things due date is november 1st so friday uh we'll see
01:36:09.980
what happens but friday is the due date um for mabel is um her name and then um also we really
01:36:17.420
need um our our youngest um oh yeah uh franklin to get better because he's still um having to like
01:36:23.500
sleep in bed with us and because he's just uh waking up and choking um he's just got the he's
01:36:29.500
been sick he's been sick yeah he's just got this deep deep cough and uh really deep cough so please
01:36:35.300
pray uh for safe delivery um for mabel uh healing for franklin and then i you know i said it as a
01:36:41.740
throwaway kind of joking, but it is serious. Please pray for just protection and favor that
01:36:47.600
there's just a lot of people have, they've found where our church meets online and we're in the
01:36:55.760
process, Lord willing, of getting a building, but we're not there yet. And so they found where
01:37:00.660
our church meets and they started trying to boycott that business to where they're losing
01:37:04.600
business. It's hurting them and just incessantly calling them on the phone and cursing at
01:37:11.620
them and telling them you need to uh kick kick them out and that's been happening for a year
01:37:16.340
off and on but just relentlessly for the last few weeks as i've been going by the clips from
01:37:22.480
right wing watch have gotten like yeah you you correct me i don't look at it i try not to look
01:37:26.780
at it all the time like i like i you know my name every now and then will like even trend and i'm
01:37:32.920
like i just i'm not gonna search joel levin but i think it was at least five million maybe
01:37:37.900
yeah the one five million then a couple others that circulated the older ones no only two million
01:37:43.560
a piece so together together i mean 10 million is is in the ballpark it's not a crazy um crazy
01:37:49.960
number and um and so with that uh there's just as you guys can probably imagine just incredible
01:37:55.280
pressure uh shout out to some of the guys who are here in the chat today but um a group of guys are
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actually trying to raise money for my wife and I to help us purchase a security system because
01:38:09.620
the uptick in death threats has been extraordinary recently. We have had protesters at the house.
01:38:16.320
We've never had anybody try to break in, but all it takes is one. And so there, I really appreciate
01:38:21.620
that. I just want to say thank you to, you guys know who you are, but guys who are raising money
01:38:25.660
to help uh in my home personally the weapons um by a security system and uh but if you guys could
01:38:32.140
also pray for this business um pray that they get business pray that they prosper and pray that
01:38:37.280
yeah the business that we meet uh pray that people leave them alone us because otherwise
01:38:42.380
they're gonna they and they were so kind about it they said joel we have defended you and ignored
01:38:46.700
the pressure campaign for a year um but but the last few has been so severe that uh if it doesn't
01:38:53.460
let up we're gonna have to kick you guys out and i have no hard feelings i get it like they can't
01:38:58.660
go under as a business um i get it and um and i've i have nothing but appreciation and respect
01:39:04.160
for these people they've been very kind to us it's your salt of the earth it's like an 86 year
01:39:09.480
old man owns the restaurant um and there's on the marquee outside you know there's a bible verse
01:39:15.180
you know every sunday when we come and he's a baptist who's gone to church you know his whole
01:39:19.900
life and loves jesus and um yeah he's he's he's a great guy and uh and his daughter is very kind
01:39:27.100
and so anyways um but we we might lose our our church and uh and the thing is like oh well you
01:39:33.280
just rent somewhere else uh you guys you guys don't get it like i understand i was i was a
01:39:38.140
church planter once upon a time uh and and didn't have much of a public profile and and just like
01:39:44.020
yeah we'll talk to this coffee shop we'll talk to this whatever you know movie theater but um
01:39:48.740
um everybody knows who i am like they um nobody will let us meet we've talked to churches we've
01:39:55.380
talked to dozens of churches this is churches much less public schools and private schools and
01:40:00.300
um they won't you know they're not going to let our church meet so we have to have our own property
01:40:06.000
because we basically we have to have security we have to be able to um we have to be able to tell
01:40:11.120
um the enemies of god pound sand and you can't tell the enemies of god pound sand if you're at
01:40:16.500
their mercy right that's why that's in some sense you could link that to this whole episode that's
01:40:20.600
why yeah let's be healthy um yeah let's uh let's try to be financially independent yeah let's try
01:40:26.660
to um to be physically strong let's try to uh yeah like um for for home defense own a gun like all
01:40:33.960
these kinds of things um so so that you are not at the mercy of the wicked you don't want to be
01:40:39.340
at the mercy of the wicked you're always at the mercy of god of course but as far as you can help
01:40:44.100
it yeah man um try to insulate yourself in the province of god trusting in him alone but also
01:40:51.160
having some dry powder on the side and so pray for our church pray for my son franklin to be
01:40:55.960
healed pray for my wife and and our daughter to be born to be healthy and safe and please pray for
01:41:01.080
our church covenant bible um that we wouldn't lose our space as we're trying uh to get our
01:41:06.680
own building all right all right wednesday white pill on the state of elections and then we'll
01:41:11.680
hit nicotine and i think that'll be a wrap all right um so i'm optimistic so take what i have
01:41:18.160
to say with a grain of grain of salt like i said grain of sand um which one is it salt grain of
01:41:23.760
salt uh i'm optimistic um based on we're looking at so the election comes down to swing states
01:41:35.040
texas it's going red california is going blue generally speaking so it's really a handful of
01:41:39.880
states are called the Sun Belt and the Rust Belt. And some of these states now, as you've noticed,
01:41:43.800
election is not a day. It's not even an election week. It's more like election month, election
01:41:48.580
season. It's a long period of time. And there's certain states that allow early voting, whether
01:41:53.900
that be people bringing in absentee ballots, mailing them in or doing in person. Now, the
01:41:58.400
cool thing is, is that you can take those and you can look at the party identifications. You can
01:42:02.220
look at so-and-so returned their ballot. They're a registered Democrat. So-and-so returned their
01:42:05.900
ballot they're a registered republican you can look at that you can get an estimate how are we
01:42:10.240
looking compared to midterms how are we looking compared to general elections and so this will be
01:42:16.260
outdated i would say in like five days we'll know the results but really we all know it'll be like
01:42:20.240
two weeks right but in a couple weeks uh won't spend too long on this this will be outdated
01:42:24.220
but i think if you're a christian and you're optimistic that trump would be uh elected and
01:42:28.680
everything that comes with it that we've been talking about in this episode from taxes to rfk
01:42:32.340
uh elon musk a department of government efficiency right we're pumped about that uh so if you're
01:42:37.380
along with that you're hoping gets elected i think there's reason to be optimistic i'm going
01:42:40.820
to show you statistics from two swing states and i'm going to compare 2020 and 2024 for the record
01:42:46.320
uh 2020 most secure election of our lifetime if you believe that i have some wonderful property
01:42:51.920
oceanfront in kansas call immediately there were shenanigans uh there were data dumps vote dumps
01:42:58.200
in the middle of the night there were people hanging up you know like blocking windows stuff
01:43:02.000
like that i know all of those existed we don't have time to get into all of those but at least
01:43:06.520
as it stands assuming that stuff doesn't happen again or even if it does that the margin is too
01:43:11.100
wide here's kind of where we stand so this is pennsylvania uh if you're listening i have some
01:43:16.780
charts on the screen i'll go ahead and explain them democrats vote more early and via mail so
01:43:22.460
democrats in pennsylvania especially they're going to return more ballots so on the left side of the
01:43:27.300
total ballots returned prior to election day prior to election day or all ballot ballots all
01:43:33.680
ballot returns prior to election day 65 were democrat 24 roughly were republican and the
01:43:40.640
other 12 were independent so the firewall total the lead the democrats had november 7th the day
01:43:47.480
before election was 1.1 million so that means election day you need not just 50 plus one right
01:43:56.320
Pennsylvania was only decided, you'll see on the right side, the margin of victory.
01:44:04.520
Almost 7 million individuals voted in Pennsylvania.
01:44:10.340
And what you're looking at here then, so you have on the left side, 65% Democrat.
01:44:14.360
Well, now of the returns to date, as of October 28th, two days ago, it's only 58% Democrat.
01:44:22.660
we're talking hundreds of thousands of votes and republican is up by 7.8 percent that's huge so as
01:44:29.180
a relative share of the early vote huge huge in 2020 65 down to 58 republican was 23 up to 31
01:44:39.120
percent now i'm going to go ahead and i'm going to show nevada so pennsylvania is a rust belt state
01:44:43.040
really big one 19 electoral votes here's nevada nevada since 2004 was the last time we went
01:44:48.320
Republican. So it's been blue. 2020, early vote by party, 39% Democrat, 40% Democrat, 36%
01:44:56.720
Republican. So kind of even, but the Democrats had at the end of the early vote, a 4% lead on
01:45:02.600
the ballots returned. The margin of victory was only 2.4%. On the right side, you'll see right
01:45:08.100
here, right now, Republicans now have an early vote lead. There's been a shift of 9%. Democrats
01:45:15.260
were 40% of the return ballots and early vote. Now, 35%. Republicans were 36% of the return vote
01:45:22.680
in 2020, right before election day. As of right now, they are 39%. Now, trends can change. We
01:45:29.200
don't literally know what's in the ballots. We're looking at registered voters. But here's the
01:45:32.920
trend. This bears out in Georgia, for example, the white and black voting data. This bears out
01:45:37.460
in North Carolina, even Virginia. There is enthusiasm for Republicans, especially Republicans,
01:45:43.320
if you look at the data that don't typically vote they didn't come out in 2022 for the midterms they
01:45:47.320
didn't even come out in 2020. republicans are getting people to the polls that don't typically
01:45:52.520
vote they're getting them earlier and the democrat turnout is suppressed and if that pattern holds
01:45:58.360
and that's a big if if that pattern holds it could be an early night you could see states
01:46:02.360
like new mexico you could see states like um virginia new hampshire uh tim maul minnesota
01:46:10.760
minnesota yep some of those states could even be in jeopardy because all you're talking about again
01:46:15.000
couple states and then our population six seven million people those who you're trying to get
01:46:20.880
out and enthuse so white put wednesday i think there's a lot of reason to think uh on election
01:46:25.740
night uh that we see a solid trump victory republican or the democrats fielded a horrific
01:46:30.500
candidate nobody ever voted for her nobody did she was not chosen in the democratic process
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01:46:36.000
to be put up there and it's probably going to bite them because the wicked can't get out of
01:46:40.580
their own way the wicked proverb says they set traps we got them now we're going to bring in
01:46:45.680
kamala harris and they fall in the very trap they set they fall into it yeah i mean part of the the
01:46:50.760
trap was the whole i mean she was a dei hire she was a black woman or indian woman whatever whatever
01:46:56.940
race she you know like the former mcdollins employee whatever race serves her best given
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01:47:00.860
that particular you know season and election but uh you know but she was a a woman of color
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01:47:06.120
and that's why she was selected as the vp i mean she lied even in the uh the primaries uh the debate
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about joe joe biden i remember seeing stephen colbert say like but she bold-faced lied and
01:47:18.540
she's like it was a debate lying is fine in a debate yeah um it's fine when you're trying to
01:47:24.340
win and yet she was still chosen how do you get to lie about joe biden and uh have like she was
01:47:31.280
pulling it like two percent in the primaries and they get selected as the vp right how in the world
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01:47:36.500
because you're a woman of color right and and so they set that trap for themselves what they used
01:47:42.640
or not for themselves but for the gop by calling them racist and calling you know trump hitler and
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01:47:48.340
all this kind of stuff and you you hate women you're misogynist you hate people of color you
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01:47:52.220
know you're racist and all that kind of stuff and that forced them that trap forced them to have to
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01:47:57.400
you know to make a selection like kamala and then with biden being you know like 170 years old
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01:48:03.680
uh well now it comes down to the vp and they're stuck with an idiot i mean she is not bright
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01:48:09.800
yeah they're stuck with it they made their bed and now they have to lay in it and i think they're
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01:48:14.020
gonna get crushed yeah i think it's gonna be too big to rig yes i i am aware of the 2020
01:48:19.500
shenanigans and i think there will be that level of shenanigans plus more shenanigans um but i
01:48:26.500
think at the end of the day uh you're gonna have to quite literally um on a live trump yeah and
01:48:33.880
that's the only way yeah if that doesn't happen um and they tried they did but if you come for the
01:48:40.740
king that's right uh i think he's gonna miss twice yeah i think i don't think they're gonna stop him
01:48:47.080
and um and the nice thing is that uh it'll be four years of some reprieve for christians to build
01:49:01.060
And then, Lord willing, we could get eight years advance,
01:49:10.640
Well, I'm thinking, and then, like, honestly,
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after four years of Trump and then eight years advance,
01:49:30.940
Okay, so the question was, what about smoking a pipe?
01:49:36.880
So we don't have time to get into all types of drugs.
01:49:44.600
There is a categorical difference between drugs that put you in a stupor,
01:49:58.160
It doesn't make you feel necessarily a pleasure.
01:50:00.180
It increases the rate of your central nervous system.
01:50:03.380
And it appears to have a number of great properties.
01:50:07.880
So if you were looking to lose weight, that is a way.
01:50:12.860
It's in tomatoes, potatoes, eggplants, cauliflower.
01:50:17.460
It's a naturally occurring substance the same way.
01:50:19.440
caffeine is the same way vitamins are the same way all these different things so you have nicotine
01:50:24.260
it's a stimulant suppresses appetite um it has a number of cool properties that are almost being
01:50:29.580
explored starting to be explored now there was someone who mentioned uh nicotine for brain cancer
01:50:34.020
treatment i've sat down and watched a whole episode and there is promise that it's antiviral
01:50:38.780
properties which it also has could be potentially advantageous for cancer just like ivermectin
01:50:45.000
it's antiviral nicotine also increases testosterone now some of it is a little bit
01:50:50.520
did the chicken come first to the eggs you take guys that smoke and it's like were they the bad
01:50:53.640
boy right high t anyway and so they take up this habit i've looked at some of the studies but we
01:50:58.440
do see a positive increase of nicotine consumption and testosterone levels in men now there's different
01:51:06.280
forms of consuming nicotine here's the one thing to be aware of your uh your marblo reds are yes
01:51:11.800
from a tobacco leaf and that thing is caked in pesticides i'm sorry to say and with cigarettes
01:51:17.000
at the very least you're also inhaling it so you're bringing into your lungs with cigars you're not
01:51:21.240
doing that with dip or with uh like zin pouches you're not so be aware of the method that you're
01:51:25.880
taking cigarettes probably being the worst but something that maybe you uh just it's your lip or
01:51:32.040
even patches are a very very safe way to get it in those would be more safe think about the source
01:51:37.560
of it source of your cigars source of your cigarettes if you're smoking them mb east oh
01:51:41.640
yeah her husband for uh for his um brain cancer yes uses a patch uh ivermectin is being explored
01:51:48.360
for that too and how we're being told so terrible don't do it well turns out it's antiviral turns
01:51:53.640
out it could have some great uh anti-cancer properties right um this country is built in
01:51:58.200
many ways on nicotine it was built on tobacco tobacco it like it it helps men be productive
01:52:04.120
i don't think things like this they occur naturally they're in our plants they're not
01:52:08.680
destructive to us i don't think god put them there to be ignored and abstain from now they're not
01:52:13.480
there to be addicted to they're not there to worship but they are categorically different
01:52:18.760
from why haska where you i don't know commune with interdimensional being the machine elves
01:52:24.600
yep it's in this category of drugs i think you really do commune with demons i mean you look at
01:52:29.800
all these pagan societies whether you know the mayans the aztecs you know or you know native
01:52:34.700
indians you know and uh indigenous peoples here in america um before we arrived and you know when
01:52:39.840
we first arrived um they they weren't just doing these recreational it was all attached to worship
01:52:45.780
they were doing it to commune with spirits and ancestors and gods and all all these kinds of
01:52:50.800
things uh one last thing just just because i i want to be you know responsible for um morally
01:52:56.420
responsible for our audience and our listeners and make sure we're being careful um i could just
01:53:01.900
i could just see somebody saying well uh nicotine it grows naturally and you know and so does
01:53:05.740
marijuana right and i i think that there's a difference between i think marijuana is given
01:53:09.860
to us by god uh for many purposes and uses uh but i don't think for recreational um so i i think
01:53:15.760
there are many purposes and uses uh people you know like for pain for instance um people say
01:53:20.860
well you know you should you know uh but it it could be addictive or you're you're not going to
01:53:25.580
be sober-minded if you know all the painkillers like yeah like you're going to be sober-minded
01:53:30.120
on vicodin you know like like you know like so every painkiller is going to do that there's a
01:53:34.900
proverb that says in a man's grief to give him hard strong strong wine strong drink yep um in
01:53:41.000
in a certain moment and there's a certain man and the bible also says that it's uh strong drink is
01:53:45.600
not for kings right um you know so there's there is a certain um seasons and there's also a certain
01:53:51.420
role uh that um it's like no this person needs to be particularly sober-minded um and we all want to
01:53:58.400
be you know a kingdom of priests we want to be little kings um and we want to be sober-minded
01:54:04.340
because that actually is a moral biblical command so all that being said i would put that in a
01:54:08.320
separate category marijuana but i it is natural i don't think that it should be demonized um but i
01:54:13.080
also um i think that you know like making marijuana legal for instance uh so that we can tax it you
01:54:18.740
know and it's going to be good for the you know the gdp like um i mean you just you just look at
01:54:23.540
uh the trajectory we've been on the country since making those kinds of decisions and it's been
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nothing but we're going to talk about gut instinct it smells bad so i don't want it yeah i don't need
01:54:32.820
to complicate it you can get into that but like it smells bad it dirties up the place yep you feel
01:54:37.220
weird when you do it why do we need this this shouldn't be legal so i think there are many
01:54:41.180
medical purposes that really are legitimate and i think it's um a gift from god praise god but i
01:54:46.440
don't think um we're not advocating for a recreational use of marijuana in the way that
01:54:52.040
we would say that um recreational use of nicotine i think is permissible yep um in the same way that
01:54:57.560
you know a lot of you drink coffee in the morning with caffeine i think also uh nicotine use on a
01:55:02.480
regular basis everything needs to be done um in moderation everything with self-control um but
01:55:08.180
nicotine uh doesn't make you uh lack sober-mindedness um if anything it makes you lean in
01:55:15.320
you become even more focused and um all the stats that i've read tucker carlson talked about it
01:55:20.640
also you know but it's like uh you'll become uh more manly and uh more ambitious and more focused
01:55:26.440
and and debatably more healthy and debatably more healthy yep yeah so all right well thank you guys
01:55:32.140
for tuning in um keep us in your prayers i'm sure uh you've probably seen a little bit of drama
01:55:37.500
on X. I don't really have any statement about that. I'm trying to do some stuff behind the
01:55:43.080
scenes, talking to the other party involved and some of the guys who retweeted and publicly
01:55:53.260
supported the other party involved and said, hey, you should check out this video from so-and-so
01:56:01.360
is it's really great well um that you know what i can say is um a lot of those people are realizing
01:56:08.560
that it actually wasn't really great and that there were um some categorical not just like oh
01:56:13.160
i would have said it differently or that wasn't exactly clear or that was a slight exaggeration
01:56:17.040
but categorical falsehoods um in other words uh downright lies and um and by god's grace uh i have
01:56:27.000
um the evidence and i've shared it with um um many people and um i would like to not go public with
01:56:34.060
it um i'll just say that i would like to not go public with it um out of charity for brothers in
01:56:39.280
christ and because uh the goal is not to destroy but the goal is actually unity i'd like it to be
01:56:44.240
done i'd like to be friends i really would so uh but i do have um uh the meeting the audio recording
01:56:51.440
of the meeting over two hours where many things that you guys have heard this man say, the opposite
01:56:59.260
is recorded. And so I've shared that with some big names and behind the scenes that have taken
01:57:05.760
his side in the matter. And they've all kind of pulled back some publicly. You might see some
01:57:10.540
tweets being deleted or retractions being offered. And I'm going to try to go to the source. That's
01:57:17.080
the counsel I've gotten from these guys. I want to honor them. I'm going to try to go to the source.
01:57:20.060
i'm praying right now uh pray for wisdom i want to determine a mediator that i can trust
01:57:26.080
because i feel like i've been ganged up on a little bit and so it's hard to find someone
01:57:31.940
in the reformed world to trust um i think i might have sometimes i feel like i might have more hope
01:57:39.100
at a democrat rally the reformed world might be the most vicious community that i've personally
01:57:44.880
ever experienced in my life um to put it nicely it is a vicious community sometimes it really
01:57:52.520
breaks my heart um because it dishonors christ it's so sad like i look at mark driscoll and i
01:57:59.320
know that driscoll had problems but um yeah do you think mark driscoll is missing the reformed
01:58:03.800
community that dude is like like a tweety bird flying free you know just like he's probably has
01:58:11.800
so much peace so much joy so much uh of of that weight lifted off of his chest uh the rest of
01:58:21.040
the christian world doesn't behave the way that we do you guys you need to know that you need to
01:58:25.120
know that the rest of the christian world does not behave the way that we do um it's very unique
01:58:29.920
to the reformed world um just the uh the viciousness so anyways um no official comment
01:58:36.380
the in-house viciousness the in-house let's let's be let's be vicious towards the orcs
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yes we want to chop off the genitals of kids and murder babies sure i'm i thought that's you know
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01:58:48.500
i thought that was what we were doing um but yeah so anyways no official comment for today i know
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that you know we have um i say it because we have more people watching than normal and so um no
01:58:58.200
official comment today and i'd like to just i'd like to move past it so i'm going to try to handle
01:59:03.080
it behind the scenes and um pray that god would give me wisdom for a mediator that is trustworthy
01:59:18.440
i don't know that um they could could hear my position a guy like me or a guy like andrew
01:59:24.360
risker or a guy like steven wolf or a guy like ogden and um and not uh clutch to his uh zionist
01:59:33.380
pearls and begin to scream um so like it's not a lot of guys like that to be honest it's it's
01:59:39.080
slim pickings um so pray that god would provide a guy um prefer preferably an older man uh who's
01:59:46.140
mature and preferably a minister a pastor uh that um has some measure of relationship with
01:59:52.120
the other party so that there's trust there and with me so there's trust on both sides and that
01:59:57.760
the gospel of jesus christ would win the day and that they're actually we had the ministry
02:00:03.440
of reconciliation that we've been given according to the apostle paul uh would be carried out and
02:00:09.040
that there would be real reconciliation i am uh ready to forgive but one day we'll have to do a
02:00:14.280
whole thing on forgiveness but um um forgiveness what about if my brother sins against me seven
02:00:20.900
times. So I tell you, not just seven times, but 70 times, seven times, if your brother sins against
02:00:25.700
you and goes to you and repents, forgiveness has to be asked for. Biblically, it needs to be asked
02:00:32.700
for. And so that being said, there's a way of being begrudging and wanting to not forgive and
02:00:39.660
being bitter. I really don't feel that way. I feel like my forgiveness is wrapped up like a Christmas
02:00:46.540
And I can't wait for the potential of so-and-so
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to walk through the front door and get to edit.
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I need him to admit, and because it was public,
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I need him to publicly admit the bold-faced lies.
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I appreciate that the video has been retracted.
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There were two videos, and we believe that whichever
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videos contained lies needed to be retracted, which means that ours stays up, and the other
02:01:18.580
one comes down, because we didn't lie. So. I'm getting intel right now. Oh, really? Wow. Okay,
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I missed that. Okay, thank you. Thank you for telling me. So Nathan just informed us,
02:01:39.260
he's our tech uh technician that uh because i didn't see it because we've been live streaming
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for seven hours and uh and always my fault getting started um but uh it sounds like eschatology did
02:01:51.520
like a brief kind of thing like um kind of like what we saw on covid like when um when uh francis
02:01:57.780
collins and got yeah bring it to me francis collins and guys like that you know were like
02:02:01.160
when they finally realized like oh we you know we killed a bunch of people and ruined businesses and
02:02:05.660
you know and all this kind of stuff you know they're like uh there's but there were fault on
02:02:09.220
both sides yeah like have you seen the meme where it's like they burn they burn the witches the
02:02:12.680
witches and they're tied to the stake and they're on fire um and they uh a guy comes up and says
02:02:17.760
actually they weren't witches and he says there were faults on both sides and so eschatology
02:02:23.640
matters kind of did one of those tweets earlier today that i was really disappointed by because i
02:02:28.060
i strongly respect those men i really do they're solid guys they're solid brothers uh solid theology
02:02:34.020
but also just really great character and so it was just uh like there's there are problems on
02:02:38.600
both sides when like one side explicitly right um and they know it because i gave them the evidence
02:02:44.040
um so that bummed me out but nathan thank you for catching us while we're still on the air before
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concluding uh they posted a statement we want to honor eschatology matters for taking on the video
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here's their new statement uh finding yourself caught in a conflict between parties who have
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uh both benefited you is terrible and that's the situation we recreate we created when we
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released the video regarding okay i'll say his name because they say it here uh tobias um and i
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really i'm not trying to be funny or disrespect i can't pronounce his last name do you know how
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to pronounce it no i don't it's yeah it's german it's it's honestly every time i've heard it i'm
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like that's awesome i i love it i you know i feel like we're singing a mighty fortress is our god
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you know in germ so it's a great name but i can't quite pronounce i think reiman schneider
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right maybe that's it reimer schneider uh tobias and uh joel weapon and just for the record i i
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love tobias i do um we regret this deeply uh our regret isn't only due to the conflict it's brought
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to the body of christ but also because we didn't have all the facts uh there still may be more
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information needed to resolve it fully that's probably true and hopefully we can do it behind
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the scenes um we recognize that our action led to unnecessary slander and speculation against
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of fellow Christian pastor, Joel Webin, and Covenant Bible Church. We repent and ask for
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forgiveness. The issue and facts in this situation are complex and private in nature. We hope for
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peace and resolution between the parties involved. For our part, we've decided to step back from
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this conversation. I get it. Praying that everyone involved can continue to bless the body of Christ.
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Really appreciate that. Eschatology Matters. You guys are good dudes. Godly, godly brothers. Tim
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bush on um is uh a friend and i and he's an older man maybe he'd be uh willing to he could be a good
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mediator because um he hasn't taken the side of like steven wolf is a heretic and joel levin has
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gone to the dark side uh but he's also tim bush on is very favorable to uh the the theonomic side
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and loves moscow and loves you know like he's he's you know um so maybe tim would be a good
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idea as a third-party mediator but um but tim is a part of eschatology matters right and uh the
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highest caliber that dude like william wolf and andrew isker just spoke at his conference fantastic
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conference um he puts out great music by the way great music and tim bushong i would trust with my
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life the dude is just he's high caliber so uh try guys hear my voice um try not to take it out on
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eschatology matters they just i think it was a bad bad move just to debut a brand new show with
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like a a takedown piece on somebody who's who's so close you know like it'd be one thing if it's
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like if the show is going to be a discernment ministry and the first thing is on kenneth
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copeland you know or something he was far outside of the reformed world so that was kind of probably
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not uh best strategy on their part um but aside from that they didn't they didn't really know
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anything else and uh they took down the video right and here's the deal let me just brag on
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them one more time i have been slandered more times than i can count no one has ever taken
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down the video you think andy woodard who divorced his wife and and i i'm in the spotlight there's
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like look i always knew that joel would have this this great moral failure and turns out he's an
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anti-semite and a racist and everyone's just gleeful i mean they came out and drove scott
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annual came out owen strand like everybody comes out everybody comes out and they're i mean they're
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like they're elated it's it's ecstasy they love it they've been i mean they've been hoping for my
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downfall um andy woodard was one of the first guys to make me go viral calls my wife shame
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took me out of context um and andy woodard has been dismissed from ministry in disgrace
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grace and he literally said of me mark my words this is an abuser the way he talks about patriarchy
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and blah blah you'll see him you know fall from ministry and he literally fell had a moral failure
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and is now going to ministering in the nar new apostolic reformation crew because they don't
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have standards and and how much have you i mean think about it this week how much have you seen
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of joel webin going viral for his deep concerning sins how much have you seen in the last month of
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andy woodard going viral the guys that are trying to sound the alarm are struggling to get traction
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they can't get any traction they've publiced it's it's a statement it was posted on x nobody cares
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do you know why they don't care because andy woodard was on their side of the great cn wars
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of 2022 because andy woodard was one of the first guys to bring to light the the very troubling and
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very concerning dangers of joel levin that's right um and so it doesn't help their side
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This part of this video that we're doing right now,
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He loved it because it was getting him millions of views.
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That clip, that was his most viral post on Twitter.
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Other guys who have slandered me, they never take it down.
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Eschatology Matters is the only thing that I can remember to date,
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the only Christian Brothers ministry that has ever retracted something
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when they realized they got it wrong wow so guys eschatology matters uh do not hold it against
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them that is honorable yeah um and but i will say and this is not about eschatology matters i i honor
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them uh but in general though um the lie travels halfway across the world well before the truth
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before the truth can even get laced up its boots um the clips from that episode they're they're
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gone yes the video was taken down but the clips are still up anybody who clipped them out they're
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still up those people uh methodist ministries yep method ministries method ministries he won't take
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his clip down um it's still up it's got 400 000 views the the retraction will never the retraction
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might get for every thousand people for every thousand people 400 000 just on his clip much
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that's the other for every thousand people who now think that um that i am a a monster anti-semite
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and and flagrant racist k-dub uh wasted no time to share it um he's uh consistent consistent um
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accuser of the brethren consistent oh my goodness that man um but the point is uh for every that's
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400 000 just on that clip just on one one one person's account um for every thousand views
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a thousand people these are real it represents real people for what every 1 000 people real
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people in the world who think that i'm a monster a monster anti-semite and flagrant racist and uh
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and thinks that our church is demonic and that is uh making members in our church actually worried
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and thinking they should leave for every thousand people who think that the retraction will reach
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one yeah that's the ratio that i've discovered for years now as i've been in this um this rodeo
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um it is a one to 100 ratio um that uh one to 100 all right franklin needs some help
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thank you guys for tuning in please pray and god bless