The NXR Podcast - THE LIVESTREAM - Trump & Rogan Promote Biblical Principles!？

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00:00:46.180 Here we are. Let's get some controversy going.

00:00:48.160 Today's episode, in a shocking display of being normal, President Trump went on the

00:00:54.240 Joe Rogan experience and promoted some ideas that you might actually think are God's standards.

00:01:00.900 In particular, he proposed that the government, in the income tax and secure, our government,

00:01:09.120 our markets, shore them up through tariffs instead.

00:01:12.620 Also, he seems willing to allow people like RFK Jr. to promote health in ways that

00:01:17.900 fly in the face of big pharma. Do these ideas mean that Trump would be, to some degree, good

00:01:24.260 for America? Spoiler alert, yes. Tune in now to find out why.

00:01:41.680 Good to see you. Good to be back. Yep. I always love the Wednesdays. Looking forward to it all

00:01:46.600 week so today we're talking about uh trump on the joe rogan experience and if you are one of the 35

00:01:52.940 million or so people that have last i checked i think it was like 37 okay 37 yep i i was like in

00:01:58.920 the first minute i saw it posted it was 60 000 already so just a little bit less popular than

00:02:04.960 theology applied right yeah pretty close pretty close yeah yeah they're not bad they're not bad

00:02:09.320 it's about as 37 million it's about as popular as uh the clips of theology apply

00:02:13.980 i was gonna say if you are someone who has not seen it yet good luck finding it on youtube

00:02:21.140 because they are suppressing that bad boy hard i did see that they came out um i think yesterday

00:02:26.900 maybe the day before saying we're trying to fix you know blah blah so yeah it's always an error

00:02:31.260 something happens we're not sure but they did release some kind of statement saying that's

00:02:35.520 interesting we're working on it okay but yeah i think it was intentional we'll have it fixed uh

00:02:39.460 November 6th at 8 a.m.

00:02:42.000 It is live and ready to go.

00:02:44.620 So what we wanted to do today is there were some things in the interview that were, you know, interesting and fun.

00:02:52.440 Talking boxing, talking MMA, just two guys talking, which was kind of refreshing to see from both of them.

00:02:59.000 But there were a few things in that episode that I think the thinking Christian may have come away with thinking,

00:03:04.680 wait a minute, they didn't name Christ, they didn't name the Bible, they didn't name natural law or theonomy.

00:03:09.460 but those ideas seem strangely biblical, strangely in line with God's standards. And so what we

00:03:17.380 wanted to do is explore two of those in particular and talk about, well, even if we have a ruler who 0.55

00:03:24.860 is not a Christian, he's not doing what the law commanded the king to do, which was to write his

00:03:29.060 own copy of the law and to base his rulings on God's justice, if he were to apply some of these

00:03:36.780 things would it benefit america right and that's the question that we want to tackle today so any

00:03:42.140 general comments about this before we dump it jump into some of the clips well i was just gonna say

00:03:45.740 like in terms of newsworthy things uh with kamala the details on that as i've been able to store

00:03:51.260 them out is uh because you know a lot of people on the left are saying that you know democrats are

00:03:55.900 saying well joe rogan you know he turned her down right he invited her to do the joe rogan experience

00:04:00.860 i've looked i looked back and checked it out um from what i can tell he's um the joe rogan

00:04:06.380 experience is in austin texas in his studio in person for an unlimited amount of time usually

00:04:12.600 somewhere anywhere from like maybe an hour and 45 minutes all the way up to three four hours

00:04:16.540 that is the joe rogan experience that's the podcast he doesn't go on the road some shows

00:04:20.740 go on the road he doesn't go on the road um and so uh what kamala's you know uh team said to joe

00:04:26.660 was uh kamala is willing to do it but it needs to be here so he has to go and meet her and uh

00:04:33.380 and she can only do one hour right and he and he said no so some people are trying to kind of like

00:04:37.740 twist it and say well uh kamala didn't say no joe said no uh no joe made an offer yep uh to which

00:04:44.440 she said no to he said do you want to come on the joe rogan experience and she said no i don't want

00:04:49.740 to come on the joe rogan experience and then she gave a counter offer which is um do you want to

00:04:54.880 to come interview me for an hour wherever i am you know and he's like no i don't do that i'm not

00:05:00.320 a reporter i asked if you wanted to come on my podcast so she let the record stand she did uh

00:05:05.300 say no to his offer so he made the offer to trump and trump i mean it's the most famous person in 0.76

00:05:10.700 the world and joe rogan did not go to trump right trump had to put his butt on a plane and go over

00:05:16.460 to austin texas and sit down and do the joe rogan experience just like a bow hunter in the early

00:05:21.420 days did it. And just anybody who's ever been on the show, same standards for Donald Trump.

00:05:26.080 And that's the same offer that was presented to her. She turned it down, made a counter offer

00:05:30.820 that it's not the Joe Rogan experience. And she said, I don't want to come on the Joe Rogan

00:05:35.920 experience, but would you like to travel and be a news reporter? And he said, no, that's not what

00:05:41.200 I do. I was going to say from the outset, we've said this before, big Trump fans, I've cast my

00:05:46.880 a voter and already for him i did not plug my nose uh but if you're a christian and in your

00:05:51.400 conscience you just you're not down with it you feel like either way uh our country's on fire

00:05:55.340 whichever one wins we don't show that opinion we respectfully disagree but if you do hold that

00:05:59.900 opinion your brother in christ probably won't be the episode that you'll enjoy the most yeah

00:06:04.140 like i understand you know some people just committed to an hour you know two hours of

00:06:09.360 hate watching but just just do yourself a favor spare yourself spare us yeah um if you if you

00:06:15.700 don't like uh the idea of voting for trump that's that's perfectly fine that's um your conscience

00:06:20.760 is you're allowed to come to that conclusion but this episode is uh we are not going to be casting

00:06:26.020 trump as the christian prince i for the record i don't know anybody who said that do you know

00:06:30.380 anybody who said trump is the christian prince some of the charismatic circles the paul oh that's

00:06:34.460 true they really have this sense of anointment but they're not reformed they're like barely

00:06:38.720 protestant but none of like none of our guys like the christian nationalists because i saw that you

00:06:44.300 know, on, I think it was Abolitionist Rising, who just for the record, I love them. I'm rooting for

00:06:49.780 them. I'm praying for them. I think they do good work. T. Russell Hunter, I think is a brother in

00:06:54.540 Christ. I think he has slandered multiple people this year over this issue, and that's frustrating,

00:06:59.600 but I think he's a brother in Christ. I love him too. And then the other guys who are involved with

00:07:04.420 it are their own men, you know, like Ben Zysloft has been. Well, Abolish Abortion Texas is a

00:07:12.540 is a sponsor at fight left east this weekend i mean like right exactly yeah so uh ben size loft

00:07:18.140 is great um i i disagree with him on the trump thing and you know i sometimes i think like ah

00:07:23.260 did we need 10 tweets today about not voting for trump like could could it have been nine you know

00:07:28.380 but uh so like we have our disagreements but like james silberman just want to go on the record

00:07:32.940 incredible guy love him dusty deavers love him uh jacob miller in our church you know he's he's

00:07:38.140 he's an abolitionist he's in the you know abolitionist rising you know uh milieu and

00:07:43.100 and knows personally uh russell t hunter and jacob miller strongly disagrees with me and says

00:07:47.920 um i i think you should not be voting for right donald trump and he's even aired that publicly

00:07:53.820 on uh twitter and he was promptly excommunicated i'm just kidding no he was uh he was loved and

00:08:00.760 i said hey brother i love you and um this is not this is not a this is not a a a big a big issue

00:08:09.300 it matters it matters but this is not something to divide over so um anyways so lots of good guys

00:08:15.540 i you know t russell hunter i do kind of put in a different category i'm not saying he's not a good

00:08:21.380 guy but but he has objectively slandered guys and i i say all that just back to the um setting up

00:08:27.920 our episode we're not saying that trump is the christian prince and i just noticed that t russell

00:08:31.860 hunter said that i think in a video or on twitter um a while back maybe a week or two ago said that

00:08:37.780 like um you guys are saying that he's the christian prince and i personally just don't know anybody

00:08:41.920 saying that except for maybe paula white you know what but that's i don't think he was talking to

00:08:46.000 paula white one of my uh one of my son's friends my son is 18 told him that um he's convinced that

00:08:51.920 we think that Trump is the second coming of Jesus Christ. So there's wild theories out there. None

00:08:58.620 of us definitely hold those theories. Just for the record, too, the Reformers, like they spoke

00:09:01.680 very, very highly of kings and magistrates when they rule. Well, Calvin or Rutherford even said

00:09:06.780 it's like God being near to us when there's a kingly rule. So if anything, we're more moderate 0.81

00:09:11.280 in our praise and our excitement for someone who you think would do a lot of good, even than the

00:09:17.260 reformers who lauded them yeah with uh almost heavenly titles in some ways yeah hey real quick

00:09:22.360 who do we got in the chat nate i'm seeing some of the boys in here the boys are back the boys

00:09:29.040 are back in town trottle i see you what's up too legit to quit god bless you faithful remnant right

00:09:37.360 there brandon let's go brandon my guy let's go brandon uh paul how do you even say that last name

00:09:46.900 we've tried it before audio manco audio manco okay um m dubs god bless you welcome to see you

00:09:55.520 um who else do we have mike johnny john john johnny johnston it's not johnny johnston it's

00:10:03.360 johnny johnson john johnsonston johnsonston which is absolutely that's ridiculous that cannot be his

00:10:10.960 real name and if it is i'm so sorry for laughing uh mb east god bless you uh go down real quick

00:10:16.940 there was somebody that i saw uh oh right there go up go up the guy's picture uh joshua michael

00:10:23.060 too said sup boys good to see you thanks for tuning in appreciate it striker i'm sure brandon's like

00:10:30.820 i'm sure i'm sure he's never heard that before i just i wanted to see who's in the chat because

00:10:34.920 here's the deal like you know i at this point it's not unusual it's just kind of like hey it's

00:10:42.340 another week you know it's another tuesday you know but uh but definitely been going viral a

00:10:46.700 little bit uh with some things that you know i usually go viral for my spicy takes that are true

00:10:51.080 but are out of context and right wing watch you know leftists take it up in this case it was

00:10:55.320 brothers in christ who we love but we think are wrong and and it wasn't just taken out of context

00:10:59.740 but it was actually it was actually false and so you know on the heels of that you know seeing you

00:11:05.540 guys in the chat uh hey we're still gonna watch right response um you know like some of you guys

00:11:10.780 probably don't even know what's going on and and yet you know you've seen glimpses and you're still

00:11:15.400 like i've been following joel webin for three years and i know his character i know that can't

00:11:21.080 be true there must be an explanation and then other you guys you know have maybe uh watched

00:11:25.460 you know ad robles the reasonable latino getting a little less reasonable he's very close to being

00:11:30.160 the unreasonable doug wilson's going to do no quarter november and and ad robles might do uh

00:11:35.120 no reasonable yeah november yeah he might go full scorched earth um he's been talking to me today

00:11:39.960 back and forth and so uh some of you have seen that you know some of the things that are going

00:11:43.420 on and uh i appreciate your support but some of you haven't seen that right and you just you just

00:11:47.940 see the glimpses of bad and yet you're still you're still here um and i don't think it's still

00:11:53.420 you're here because you don't care i don't think it's like we're still here because uh we don't

00:11:57.560 care because if joel is a terrible guy then great no you're saying like no it's not because you're

00:12:03.160 terrible and so therefore you're okay with me being terrible it's uh you actually care about

00:12:07.160 god's word you care about biblical standards and um and you've just been supportive of this

00:12:11.780 ministry for long enough to where you're like uh that smells fishy i don't believe it and man i

00:12:17.720 just want to take a second say that it means the world thank you guys all right all right so we're

00:12:22.320 going to jump in give a like yeah give a like to the video um subscribe share the video yep all the

00:12:27.620 all the usual things uh so here we go first clip go ahead nathan more beautiful than love it's more

00:12:34.860 beautiful than anything it's the most beautiful word this country can become rich with the use

00:12:41.740 the proper use of tariffs it'll keep you just float out the idea of getting rid of income taxes

00:12:48.260 and replacing it with tariffs?

00:12:49.920 Well, okay.

00:12:50.680 Were we serious about that?

00:12:51.780 Yeah, sure.

00:12:52.380 But why not?

00:12:53.020 Because we, ready?

00:12:54.380 Our country was the richest in the,

00:12:57.120 relatively, in the 1880s and 1890s.

00:13:01.160 A president who was assassinated named McKinley,

00:13:04.560 he was the tariff king.

00:13:05.920 He spoke beautifully of tariffs.

00:13:07.660 His language was really beautiful.

00:13:10.980 We will not allow the enemy to come in

00:13:14.720 and take our jobs and take our factories

00:13:17.140 and take our workers and take our families 0.56

00:13:19.400 unless they pay a big price,

00:13:21.920 and the big price is tariffs.

00:13:24.100 And he'd speak like that, but he was right.

00:13:27.100 And then around in the early 1900s, 0.90

00:13:29.320 they switched over stupidly to, frankly, an income tax. 0.97

00:13:32.580 And you know why? 0.99

00:13:33.700 Because countries were putting a lot of pressure on America.

00:13:36.080 We don't want to pay tariffs.

00:13:37.100 Please don't.

00:13:37.640 You know, believe me, they control our politicians.

00:13:41.220 If you look at the kind of numbers that these guys make

00:13:44.740 then and now. But we had a commission meeting in the eight, I think it was 1887. Think of this

00:13:54.300 problem. We were so rich. We had so much money. We didn't know what to do. So they set up a blue

00:14:01.260 ribbon commission on tariffs. And the sole purpose is what to do with all the money we had.

00:14:08.520 We were so rich because we were taxing other people for coming in and taking our jobs. 0.91

00:14:14.740 And China does it. 0.90

00:14:16.300 That's what China did.

00:14:17.140 If you want to open a factory and sell cars, if you build a factory or have a factory, they don't take our cars. 0.85

00:14:23.460 They wouldn't take our cars. 0.55

00:14:24.880 But if you build a plant in China, you can do that.

00:14:29.400 Elon did that.

00:14:30.100 Let's get back to tariffs.

00:14:30.860 When you're talking about – one of the criticisms of your administration was with tax cuts and with tariffs, you increased the deficit.

00:14:39.120 So was the – what was the strategy behind that?

00:14:43.220 And did you think it was going to increase the deficit by a substantial amount?

00:14:47.540 Okay.

00:14:47.840 We were ready to rock.

00:14:49.840 It was all – you know, I had a bad system.

00:14:52.040 We had horrible tax policy.

00:14:54.260 I made it great with a much lower tax rate.

00:14:58.360 So I took it from almost 40 percent down to 21 percent.

00:15:02.400 Now I'm bringing it from 21 down to 15, but only if you make your product in the United States, which is great.

00:15:09.800 People call me.

00:15:10.480 They said, what a great idea.

00:15:11.560 Nobody ever heard of that before.

00:15:12.840 I don't care if they make the product in Japan.

00:15:14.880 Why should I give up?

00:15:16.240 So it's at 21.

00:15:18.360 At 21, in the first year, we took in much more revenue than we did at almost 40.

00:15:24.940 Think of that.

00:15:26.320 It inspired.

00:15:27.200 Now, we had other things, too.

00:15:28.560 We were able to get people to bring back their money.

00:15:31.360 You couldn't bring back your money.

00:15:33.440 If you had money in Europe, like Apple.

00:15:37.220 Apple had many billions of dollars outside.

00:15:40.220 They couldn't bring it.

00:15:40.780 There was no way to bring it back in.

00:15:42.840 the bureaucracy, the documents, the whole thing.

00:15:45.540 And also the tax was too high.

00:15:47.000 You know, they wanted like half of it or something.

00:15:48.700 Nobody's going to do that.

00:15:49.560 So they leave their money in Japan and they spend their money there. 0.91

00:15:54.360 That was part of what I did.

00:15:56.160 The money came pouring back in.

00:15:57.980 Apple took in hundreds of billions of dollars.

00:15:59.980 They brought it back from overseas.

00:16:01.500 They brought it in.

00:16:02.020 So how does the deficit increase because of that?

00:16:03.760 So what happened is this.

00:16:05.260 We were ready to rock and roll and then we had the COVID thing.

00:16:09.220 And we had to focus on that.

00:16:12.260 All right.

00:16:12.840 All right. Great. So we want to say here at the beginning that we're not economists. And the purpose of this section is not to dive into whether or not tariffs are X percent better than taxes or how much of the deficit a tariff is going to offset as compared to income tax. That's not really the purpose.

00:16:31.760 The reason I picked this clip was because, according to Trump, his motivation for wanting to try something like tariffs, lower the income tax, lower even the corporate tax, it sounds like, there at the end, is because he loves this country.

00:16:48.940 And he wants the business and the manufacturing and the benefit and the wealth to be circulating in our markets rather than overseas markets.

00:17:00.440 Right.

00:17:00.940 Right.

00:17:01.140 And I found some interesting quotes as I was researching.

00:17:06.920 I'm not going to read this quote, but it's from the American Compass, an article called So What If Tariffs or Taxes?

00:17:11.820 And in it, they talk about how to the globalist, they don't care where a product is made.

00:17:20.080 The bottom line for a globalist is, can I produce it as cheaply as possible?

00:17:25.080 And the article says that it's only patriotic people that care if products are built in their country by their people and at advantage for their people.

00:17:37.780 And the neoliberal order that came out of World War I and World War II, really, it viewed the world as the stage.

00:17:48.300 rather than we need to have closed nation states where a country a company benefits that country

00:17:58.400 no it doesn't matter there's no borders i'm so glad you brought that up michael because

00:18:02.440 world war ii is something that we should probably talk about

00:18:04.920 no but you're right that's i mean i i know people at this point they're like the post-war

00:18:10.860 consensus isn't real is the post-war consensus with us in the room right now you know right it's

00:18:15.520 like look maybe we come up with a better term later on i understand if you're getting a little

00:18:19.440 bit tired of it but um but but the reason it keeps getting mentioned is because uh unlike you know

00:18:24.800 neil shinby and the woke right it actually is real which by the way i just got to say that was

00:18:28.460 absolutely ridiculous um meg basham god bless her heart um she she won't say it so i'll say it for

00:18:34.640 um but uh i saw there was a picture of michael knolls with neil shinby and it was like uh basically 0.61

00:18:43.200 you know like michael knowles giving some of his credentialism you know like like popping you know

00:18:48.240 it was giving him some props uh to neil shinvey and neil shinvey has been insufferable for the last

00:18:53.760 what's at least six months if not you know a full year talking about the woke right i mean forever

00:18:58.800 i know but but especially insufferable right beyond the usual insufferability and so um it's

00:19:04.320 just for you guys who don't know about neil shinvey the frustration that guys have with

00:19:07.520 with neil shimpy is because he's been um writing against crt and wokeness while being a member

00:19:13.960 in jd greer's church who literally is responsible for um for smuggling in crt and wokeness into the

00:19:22.360 sbc yep much less just his local church that's been the whole thing about that people are

00:19:27.020 frustrated with neil shimpy whether it's william wolf or meg dash and like um got you know jeff

00:19:31.380 right has you know like you know all those guys great guys you know um come against neil shimpy

00:19:36.460 for that because they're saying like dude you're not and so anyways uh but he found a new thing to

00:19:41.280 be insufferable extra insufferable about the woke right um but the woke right you know a lot of

00:19:46.120 things that he would point to is like well there's christians on x who are positively talking about

00:19:50.300 franco and the irony is that like uh michael knowles um did a whole thing yeah talking about

00:19:57.240 franco positively and mussolini like right yeah and 50 and and neil sanfee is happy for a photo

00:20:04.840 with michael knowles because he has clout right you know and so uh but by neil shimby's own

00:20:10.400 definition of what it means to be woke right i i i hope that you know michael knowles sees this

00:20:15.360 you know like that uh um neil shimby thinks that um that you are a crt race hustling leftist just

00:20:23.120 on the other side of the aisle so anyways i can't even remember how i got there post-war consensus 0.92

00:20:28.060 oh yeah so neil shimby's like post-war consensus it's ridiculous you know blah blah that's just

00:20:33.040 woke right language and um look the reason why it matters is because the world really did change

00:20:38.740 it really did change and and and theologically uh the church really did change i mean we've

00:20:43.700 talked about eschatology in the past that was a big change it's like and i'm sympathetic right

00:20:47.960 you're so you're the greatest generation you come back from war you've seen all these atrocities

00:20:52.060 regardless of of different war crimes and who was perfectly right about this or that but you come

00:20:57.540 back from war and it's like you've just seen guys get their heads blown off you know and uh and so

00:21:02.640 then you come back and you're not particularly white-pilled and optimistic about about the future

00:21:06.620 that that checks out i i get that and so out of that's where you see a lot of the uptick yes the

00:21:13.380 scofield bible in the mid you know 1800s and those kind of but you you know the the seeds were

00:21:17.920 already planted for dispensational premillennialism it kind of a hopeless like yes jesus does win in

00:21:22.880 the final analysis but not until the church gets the crap beat out of it and she's sitting there 0.74

00:21:27.020 and she's been pruned and she you know there's like 14 christians left on the earth you know 0.73

00:21:30.560 144,000, yeah. And so, you know, and then Jesus comes back. It's not that Christ as the head of

00:21:37.360 the church actually wins in real human history through his body on earth in temporal, tangible

00:21:43.420 ways, as well as eternal. No, no, no. It's Christ wins on behest of the church after the church

00:21:49.500 sufficiently loses and goes all nine rounds, you know, or 12 rounds, and I'm thinking nine

00:21:54.660 innings, all 12 rounds, and just is on the ropes getting pummeled. But eventually the bell comes

00:21:59.960 and Christ, you know, Christ comes in and saves us.

00:22:02.600 And so that kind of, you know,

00:22:04.320 there was the basis theologically for that

00:22:06.280 in the mid 1800s,

00:22:07.160 but it really wasn't until the World War I

00:22:09.660 and World War II that that really seeped over,

00:22:12.700 you know, in European nations,

00:22:14.380 but especially here in America,

00:22:15.540 where it just became a very, like, yeah,

00:22:18.300 the world is a terrible place

00:22:19.460 and things are getting worse.

00:22:20.460 You got to add to it too,

00:22:21.280 the emergence of global financial markets

00:22:23.540 in the 80s and the 90s.

00:22:25.140 Because think about that in the past,

00:22:26.560 say you're like, I want to manufacture X, Y, and Z

00:22:28.980 in switzerland well there's correspondence getting the money what do you transfer it into

00:22:33.260 but as global markets emerged and information and money and all of these things move not only

00:22:38.500 faster but more frequently like there's 24 hour markets now you can trade x y and z stock 24 hours

00:22:45.380 a day across the world so you have a technology that it's neutral but it emerges as we have this

00:22:51.500 post-war consensus as this disdain towards nationalism so moving towards globalism

00:22:56.580 empowered by global financial markets that enable trade and then all of a sudden you have now the

00:23:02.100 2000s especially big companies the forbs the auto manufacturers toys electronics wait pennies on

00:23:08.800 the dollar i can get this in from china right just by way of definition too for anyone not familiar

00:23:13.800 with tariffs all the tariff is is it's a tax imposed by a government on goods or services

00:23:18.780 that are imported or exported between countries right so a tariff on electronics from china for

00:23:23.660 example, says 15% of the value, 20%, 100%. You could do 200% tariffs. Whatever value you're

00:23:31.100 importing, you have to pay this because the labor was done overseas. The labor wasn't done here in 0.75

00:23:37.060 our country. So Trump is talking about income tax as it is now, produces tons of money for the

00:23:41.900 government, runs their programs, runs the military, all of that. And he's floating the idea, what if

00:23:47.120 all of our dependence on offshore manufacturing, on offshore vehicle creation, electronics and

00:23:52.340 goods and all of that. What if we started taxing them much heavier, making these foreign nations 1.00

00:23:56.740 that are taking our labor pay for it? What if that was the income that then generated the engine 0.95

00:24:01.980 that drove our government? That's really important because one of the things that I was

00:24:07.280 reading in preparation for here was that the U.S. government looked at the income generated from

00:24:14.060 tariffs, which in the 1900s at some points was up to 95 percent of all the money that they brought

00:24:19.480 in you know and so they're looking at the money that we generate from tariffs and they're kind

00:24:24.020 of forecasting and calculating how much could we make from income tax and the calculus hit a level

00:24:30.660 where the money that they could get from income tax equaled or exceeded in their mind the money

00:24:37.340 that they would get from tariffs but the problem with the with that perspective is that it assumes

00:24:42.680 that both streams of income for the government are equally appropriate or acceptable to impose

00:24:49.520 One is we're going to impose this income stream on other nations.

00:24:54.460 We're going to tax them if they want to bring their goods here. 0.98

00:24:57.260 Which makes sense.

00:24:57.780 The other is, yes, it makes perfect sense.

00:24:59.480 You want to sell to our citizens.

00:25:00.440 It makes perfect sense.

00:25:01.000 That is a benefit to you that is not a right.

00:25:03.320 That's a privilege to you to be able to sell in our market.

00:25:06.400 This is our market and it's our citizens.

00:25:08.500 If you want to be able to have that benefit of reaching our market, then there's a tax.

00:25:14.680 And so it's not just going to be the cost of making your product and then the profit margin.

00:25:22.220 You're going to have the cost of making your product and shipping and those things.

00:25:25.240 And then also eating out part of your profits is going to be a tax.

00:25:29.180 And the tax is because you get to sell to a market that's not yours.

00:25:32.760 You don't have a right to Americans to sell your product to Americans.

00:25:36.800 America is our country, and we give you this right.

00:25:39.940 So in the same way that's not just, well, anybody can enter our country today.

00:25:43.480 but you know back in the good old days you know when we actually had laws and things like that

00:25:47.180 um just in the same way that not just anyone can enter the the whole world doesn't have a right to

00:25:52.880 enter our country to be citizens of our country to live in our country also to sell in our country

00:25:57.880 and we see this scripturally even i think of nehemiah i believe it's chapter 13 which is

00:26:01.860 part of the reason why i'm my sabbatarianism you know goes to the the extent of wanting to

00:26:06.940 avoid the marketplace i do believe that there are occasional exceptions i try not to be overly

00:26:11.660 legalistic about it but um you know like on on the lord's day we try to come home for lunch and

00:26:16.120 things like that and not visit the marketplace we don't hold that as a standard for our church

00:26:20.140 members but that is my position um in in the an application of my sabbatarianism but the reason

00:26:24.640 why is because uh nehemiah chapter 13 is where you know people are coming on the sabbath day

00:26:30.680 right they're not um citizens of israel they're not native citizens and so it's foreigners

00:26:35.340 from other nations who are coming they come all the way up to the gates you know of of of jerusalem

00:26:40.980 and uh and they're like kind of like you know pounding on the door with all their carts and

00:26:46.480 all their goods you know they're kind of their portable market that they brought on the road

00:26:50.120 and they bring it up to israel to sell they want to take advantage of israel's market share you

00:26:55.020 know their their citizens and uh and the leaders say um quit coming on the sabbath we don't buy

00:27:01.800 or sell goods and this is nehemiah 13 is right cited both in the westminster and the 1689 on

00:27:06.680 the sabbath in regards to not visiting the marketplace that uh because the sabbath requires

00:27:10.880 uh the fourth commandment is not just that you rest but it also says your male servants and your

00:27:15.080 female servants and so and the sojourner sojourner who is within your gates exactly and so you're

00:27:19.880 trying to end your your oxen for that matter and so you're it's a day of rest unto the lord a day

00:27:24.640 for worship and a day of rest and so you're saying um not only am i not going to work but i'm also

00:27:29.140 i'm not going to obligate others to work for me right um and if they want to work for me um i'm

00:27:34.900 not going to let them um you know if they go work for somebody else they break the sabbath but i'm

00:27:39.300 not going to um i'm not going to give them the basis for sabbath sabbath breaking and so anyways

00:27:44.620 all that being said the point is from that that's you know particular to the sabbath but i think

00:27:48.760 there's a larger application to that um nehemiah and the leaders in israel uh absolutely believe

00:27:55.680 and there's no correction there's nothing in the text that indicates that they're wrong about this

00:28:00.040 they absolutely are convicted and believe that foreign nations wanting to sell goods in Israel

00:28:07.000 is their prerogative. It's the leaders of Israel's prerogative. They get to make that decision. And 0.81

00:28:12.340 it's not just some universal citizen of the world right. So in the same way that the whole world

00:28:18.260 doesn't have a right to come to America, much less live in America, certainly not vote in our 0.98

00:28:22.980 elections, although they do, they also don't have a right to sell to America. That is a modern 0.78

00:28:28.180 thought. That is a post-war thought. That was not the way that everybody thought. Like, I can sell

00:28:33.880 my product anywhere in the world, and I don't need anybody's permission. I'm entitled to that.

00:28:37.860 That's not the way the world works. Although, I will tell you that one of the reasons that

00:28:40.760 the tariffs went away is because the U.S. was the powerhouse of production in the early 1900s.

00:28:47.720 They surpassed Britain. They surpassed Europe. They were the global powerhouse of production.

00:28:54.300 And so part of the reason why they moved away from tariffs was they thought, well, if we aren't charging you, then we can tell you, smaller country, you can't charge us any taxes, and we're just going to have the ability to sell all our goods to you that we can produce faster or cheaper or whatever.

00:29:10.680 So we actually kind of were the ones in some ways who instigated this and said, we have the upper hand now, and so you have to not have control over whether we can bring our goods into your country also.

00:29:23.560 So the principle we think is true,

00:29:25.760 and what Michael's saying is that

00:29:27.280 America hasn't always done it the right way.

00:29:29.460 Yeah, shocker.

00:29:30.600 Shocker.

00:29:31.520 But all that back to, if we're talking the two,

00:29:34.440 if it's a dichotomy of two choices,

00:29:36.980 and this is oversimplification,

00:29:39.140 but if we're talking tariffs or income tax,

00:29:41.720 my point of bringing up Nehemiah 13 is to say,

00:29:43.940 I think I can make a biblical argument for tariffs

00:29:46.320 and why that's permissible.

00:29:47.660 And why a universal right to sell to any people,

00:29:52.040 any place anything does not exist um i cannot make a biblical argument for income taxes i can

00:29:58.380 make a biblical argument for why it's theft yeah i could do that so here you have donald j trump

00:30:04.220 uh who is the christian prince he's not but but a blind squirrel can find an acorn from time to

00:30:12.640 time and this is i think a biblical principle and i'm grateful for it yeah and it would be

00:30:16.720 at the end of the day we have two choices we have two choices and i understand that yes you can vote

00:30:21.200 third party and yes you can abstain or you can vote down the ballot but leave you know the

00:30:25.160 president uh blank in order to send a message to the gop so that you know the gop produces for you 0.68

00:30:30.340 a better candidate four years from now when there's 40 more um illegal you know immigrants 0.63

00:30:34.700 have come into the country and are voting in our elections and we never have hope of winning again 1.00

00:30:38.580 i understand that strategy obviously you can hear i'm being a bit facetious i obviously don't think

00:30:43.380 that strategy is wise now that said um the point is uh that uh i think we only have um my view of

00:30:52.180 voting is um that that you want to ward off uh the most destruction and evil that can be done to your

00:30:59.120 nation right you want to use your vote to love your neighbors to protect as many of your neighbors as

00:31:03.840 you possibly can um how you know how many of my neighbors will be protected um and and then and

00:31:10.620 So with that, I think that, you know, you're going to have one of these two individuals

00:31:14.940 are going to win.

00:31:16.500 It's different than Exodus 18.

00:31:18.260 I agree with the Exodus 18 principles or qualifications, standard, but I think it's

00:31:24.480 misapplied to be applied to a general federal presidential election.

00:31:30.860 I think, you know, Exodus 18 is, you know, fine men of this caliber, those who hate a

00:31:34.980 bribe, you know, they hate covetousness, all these different things.

00:31:37.260 they fear god but then they're going to bring them to to moses and moses is going to have vetoing 0.64

00:31:41.920 power and so israel as the people right there's kind of your democratic representative government

00:31:46.560 kind of sense it's not democratic like we have because it would be the men making this decision

00:31:50.640 and not each and every individual so households are making a decision about men over tens and

00:31:55.480 fifties and hundreds and thousands but then they bring them this is i think the necessary you know

00:32:00.500 inference from the text they bring them to moses and moses has the power to say ah that guy doesn't

00:32:05.500 meet the standard you know and he can hit the buzzer and veto somebody and send them away

00:32:09.160 um i i think that exodus 18 for us applies to our primaries especially in local elections but

00:32:14.560 even in a national election our primaries that's when we bring bring your best man bring your best

00:32:19.100 man who meets the exodus 18 standard but then eventually it is determined um whether or not

00:32:25.360 your man uh makes it down to the two horse race right you know and and all the ron de santis bros

00:32:31.260 I get it. 0.98

00:32:32.480 I don't think you're ridiculous. 0.83

00:32:33.660 I understand. 0.83

00:32:34.340 I understand the logic there.

00:32:35.460 I see what you were doing.

00:32:36.740 I appreciate Ron DeSantis.

00:32:38.080 I think he's a fantastic governor, and I'd like to see him there as long as possible.

00:32:42.500 But Ron DeSantis, when he was turned away, Ron DeSantis cannot win.

00:32:47.540 Dusty Deavers, writing Dusty Deavers in on your ballot, I love Dusty Deavers.

00:32:51.980 That guy is a Christian prince, but he cannot win.

00:32:55.300 Dusty would be the first guy to tell you that.

00:32:57.240 He cannot win president of the United States in this election.

00:33:01.260 maybe in the future maybe but not this election so all that being said um there's two people who

00:33:06.120 can win and uh and moses had the video in power you you could bring two guys and moses could say

00:33:11.160 not neither of them and send them both away in this case uh we got to bring our guys exodus 18

00:33:16.620 in the primaries we're down now to two um neither one of them i agree neither one of them meet the

00:33:22.480 exodus 18 standard but they don't fail the standard equally right one fails the standard i think far

00:33:29.340 more than the other they both failed the standard but one fails more than the other and here's the

00:33:33.080 deal one of them will be president right one of them will be president and i have some kind of

00:33:38.600 sway to say which one and so then i'm going to be looking at other issues right right i i think on

00:33:44.620 on abortion sadly trump is is now politicians do lie in order to get elected so we'll see what he

00:33:50.460 does and how he governs but in terms of his rhetoric he's certainly much further to the left

00:33:55.100 than he was when when he was uh governing um his his last term and that absolutely disappoints me

00:34:01.960 as a christian um who who wants to stand for the sanctity of life that that is i think that's sin

00:34:07.500 i think it's wrong that said um the difference between uh trump and kamala i'm willing to admit

00:34:12.960 on the issue of life is somewhat negligible in terms of real numbers the principles there is

00:34:19.260 i think a distinct difference still to the child who who is laying there crying by themselves on

00:34:24.640 on stainless steel table left to die as tim waltz has done with six children in his state

00:34:29.760 right and wants to do now with the whole nation i think in principle there's a difference in kamala

00:34:34.320 reinstating row but she has explicitly said that's what she wants to do so i think in principle there

00:34:39.580 are some big differences i understand the abolitionist argument that in terms of raw

00:34:43.180 numbers of babies that would die versus babies that would live the numbers there's a negligible

00:34:48.700 difference in numbers between kamala and harris that's true so that's when you pan out

00:34:54.060 and and i think it's hard for us as evangelicals for the longest time all of us myself included

00:34:58.780 have been for the most part one issue voters right right you know and because that is i mean

00:35:03.620 what issue could be bigger than that i and i get it i i get it and i i've said it and i i still

00:35:08.880 say it i i agree with it um but when you have two candidates and neither one of them are champions

00:35:14.080 for pro-life and their rhetoric um i think trump was in many ways but right now that he's not

00:35:20.320 talking like that so neither one of them is is uh champions for uh then you have to look are there

00:35:25.800 other issues and this is just one example i think it's just one example with the tariffs there's an

00:35:30.700 income tax that the bible would call theft and there's a tariff that that nehemiah 13 and and

00:35:36.360 several other texts that i could use um make an argument for um that is a more biblical direction

00:35:42.580 kamala is not going to take us that direction and there's reasons why we'll get to those in a moment

00:35:47.020 but that that right there uh is is already okay so one seems better than the other i i need to love

00:35:53.540 my neighbors um i want to uh to ward off as much harm as possible for my neighbors who will harm

00:36:01.360 my neighbors more kamala or trump and that's that's what we're doing immigration so if not

00:36:06.640 pro-life let's look at immigration is one of them better on that who's the borders are right how 0.71

00:36:11.560 many people like how many women have been r-a-p-e-d and murdered children murdered that uh that were

00:36:19.440 known felons that karma let across the border you know and so so i'm looking at my neighbors and i'm

00:36:25.980 looking at other issues and we haven't had to do that for a long time i want to add one thing there

00:36:30.020 i don't know if someone should investigate this maybe no one can because you would you would be

00:36:36.520 Epstein but I remember when Trump came into power the Democrats and the left were surprised by it

00:36:43.900 but they did not immediately hate him do you know when the hate turned up to 10 when when he said

00:36:50.300 we need to close our borders to child trafficking wow it was almost instantaneous and I think

00:36:56.960 someone you know someone's got to look into that Hollywood wouldn't like that no there's someone

00:37:01.160 put it in the comments and it is a good comment they said really all candidates candidates float

00:37:06.100 these ideas a lot and for the record we're aware i'm reading a good book on the reconstruction

00:37:10.340 movement in the 70s and 80s and the same thing we're sounding the alarm bells about now right

00:37:14.340 government influence in schools government propaganda um illegal immigration like in the

00:37:19.300 70s and the 80s rj rush dunia is sounding the warning bell like hang on this is the the

00:37:24.180 degradation of our nation it's incredible uh in the late 1800s early 1900s the big movement they

00:37:30.580 gathered millions actually in new york called the men's forward movement they were concerned about

00:37:34.260 about women participating in the workforce,

00:37:36.420 men leaving the church.

00:37:38.100 Like I was reading the tenets of it

00:37:39.320 when I was doing research on it a long time ago.

00:37:41.220 We're talking 120 years ago,

00:37:42.860 there was guys and pastors and leaders

00:37:44.880 sounding the warning bell like,

00:37:45.880 hey, be concerned about this.

00:37:47.380 So it can feel a little bit like,

00:37:49.100 wait, but conservatives have always rang this bell.

00:37:51.080 We've always been concerned about immigration.

00:37:53.020 Conservative candidates, Republican candidates too,

00:37:55.900 many times through the years they've promised.

00:37:57.340 When I get in, we're gonna end the Department of Education.

00:37:59.980 actually bush second bush jr promised to do tariffs almost at the measure or the level trump

00:38:07.080 is wanting to do it now and as soon as he got elected boom so i get the skepticism which could

00:38:12.240 happen with trump yeah we'll see yep i was gonna say i get the skepticism but how things change

00:38:16.720 is is not just a one-time thing so so first you normalize that's true the discourse you have a

00:38:23.580 serious conversation that's viewed by i don't know 40 million people hey there's actually the

00:38:27.780 possibility here that this could be substituted in you normalize the discussion you make moves

00:38:32.720 towards it like as trump has talked about decreasing the federal income tax we're going

00:38:36.460 to get into some projections here in the third segment for the election trump could have a senate

00:38:40.860 majority for his whole term and the house and so he could actually make meaningful progress

00:38:45.180 towards rolling back income tax so i get the black pill of wait but republicans have been

00:38:50.140 promising forever and complaining about immigration forever and saying we'll end income tax forever

00:38:54.260 and to that to an extent yes that's true but i don't know i like to believe things are changing

00:38:59.460 i think there's hope that um there's nothing ever happens bros right and you know it depends what

00:39:04.640 day of the week he catches you know like sometimes i'm like yep nothing ever happens yep uh but man

00:39:09.460 right now i feel like things are happening yeah like like every not just the presidential election

00:39:14.620 but like in so many different ways i'm like things are happening my wife's about to have a baby i

00:39:19.040 think that's that one's happening that one's going to another joel we might get kicked out of our

00:39:23.520 church building you know because of the campaign thanks to write home watch and all the phone

00:39:26.980 calls i i think that one might happen you know so like something's happening i'd like to think

00:39:30.820 maybe also some good things some taxes being rolled back nate real quick go up in the chat

00:39:35.200 i want to call somebody out um positively uh up up up up there you go daniel daniel uh shout out

00:39:41.740 yeah daniel woodward uh woodward he said uh even as a one issue voter the fact that we are likely

00:39:47.720 replacing two supreme court justices in this term would favor trump as he has a history of putting

00:39:53.420 better candidates in place and he's right like that's what did you see the ruling this afternoon 0.77

00:39:58.020 supreme court ruled that virginia is allowed to remove the illegal aliens from their voter rules

00:40:04.940 good which the local court had said they're not allowed to do so there's the supreme court

00:40:08.840 yeah five four decision but still amazing six three plus three lives i wanted to let

00:40:13.700 insane so but like if trump hadn't appointed three justices his last term we want to get that

00:40:19.440 ruling yep and uh those are the things that elevate to the supreme court there's a lot of

00:40:23.660 other things that we don't even see because they get a better uh local ruling right because uh

00:40:28.040 trump has appointed uh it's not just supreme court justices but he he appointed it with something

00:40:32.600 200 something different you know justices around uh the country and so for him to be able to get

00:40:38.800 two more um is just i like really it's just a mercy from god that we don't deserve and we

00:40:44.800 replace at least alito and thomas the oldest but most conservative uh judges on the supreme court

00:40:50.800 so you're looking at it you're thinking long term well who's going to replace these guys they've

00:40:54.320 been stalwart conservative well the election of trump would give the opportunity uh i like

00:40:59.120 blanking on his name the one who had the allegations kavanaugh like brett kavanaugh

00:41:03.240 good appointment amy barrett 50 50 on but the point is we would get to replace these not with

00:41:09.020 liberal judges is the point that whatever would be appointed there would not be liberals all right

00:41:13.860 do we want to say anything else about taxes and tariffs well the only thing that i want to say

00:41:18.560 just as a like i'm not an economist but um although i might give some economic predictions

00:41:24.460 eventually here because i do think i i the nothing ever happens bros are going to be i think very

00:41:29.880 disappointing for the remainder of 2024 the next two months i think some crazy things are going to

00:41:33.980 happen with markets as well um but all that being said this is my economic sense take it for what

00:41:39.040 it's worth um i think that uh because a lot of times with covid i remember like i what i try to

00:41:45.260 do is i'll try to pan out and and um get answers for something that that i can't find because it's

00:41:50.720 like i'm not an epidemiologist i'm not going to be able to to be you know study viruses and like i

00:41:55.820 just there's not enough time in the day to be an expert in everything you know so that's why

00:41:59.260 typically so you know division of labor and society has experts in different fields and

00:42:02.980 you're supposed to be able to trust them so what do you do when you can't you know and well you

00:42:08.020 have to be able to at least get like a the smell test you know a general sense of um is this poison

00:42:13.180 that i'm going to be putting in my wife's uh in children's veins um or is it not you know and i i

00:42:20.300 i decided it was poison and so we did not do it you know with the mrna uh vaccines but like i

00:42:25.860 needed to at least know that and i couldn't trust a lot of the experts in order to give me you know

00:42:29.700 an honest answer so then i'll rely on the smell test here's the smell test this is how i i do it

00:42:34.600 sometimes. Cause people will sometimes say, you've said this before, Michael, like, like, man,

00:42:37.840 Joel, you have like this sixth sense of being able to, you know, pan out, get the 30,000 foot view

00:42:41.400 and somehow just call it. And one of the ways that I call it is if, if I can't answer the question,

00:42:46.860 what I I'll, I'll just skip that for a moment and move on to the question why. And so I'll try to

00:42:52.640 get to motive. And so I'll, I'll think of who are, I don't know exactly. I'm not an expert with the

00:42:58.220 issue, but instead of the, what let's look at the who and try to determine the why. So who are the

00:43:03.580 players on the field what are the different sides who are they what do they represent um and and why

00:43:09.280 would one side want this is there an incentive right so just like a court case you're trying to

00:43:14.220 you know if it's a homicide or whatever you're trying to establish um motive you have to have

00:43:19.380 it to convict them yeah exactly yep and so all that being said um when i think of who who doesn't

00:43:25.360 want tariffs i guess is my right you know who doesn't want tariffs um who who would prefer

00:43:30.480 income taxes who would prefer to tax um every single citizen of these united states and and

00:43:36.960 make us carry uh the the uh the government burden um versus um corporations having a choice because

00:43:46.900 here's the thing there's no tax on the corporations if you do it here in america um but if you do it

00:43:52.260 in america you have to pay american wages right and so that does eat into your profit margins

00:43:57.000 you're going to have less profit you know to be fair i think he did say down to 15 for american

00:44:02.000 corporations yeah you're right yeah yeah so okay down to 15 so you're gonna have a smaller tax

00:44:06.200 for any corporation here in america that does you know that manufactures and distributes here in

00:44:10.500 america um they're going to pay less of a tax they're going to have a tax incentive far less

00:44:14.460 of a tax um and so uh they're you know but they're going to have less of a tax but higher wages

00:44:19.900 because they're going to be paying americans and americans need to meet a certain standard of you

00:44:24.020 know a cost of living and those kinds of things um and and are going to expect a higher wage and so

00:44:29.520 um but or you can take it overseas and um take it to china or take it wherever and pay you know

00:44:36.420 pay people you know pennies you know peanuts uh you know two dollars an hour and blah blah blah

00:44:41.200 and do those kinds of things uh uh but you're gonna have in that case you're gonna have to pay

00:44:45.460 the tariff is is what trump was saying and it could be a 200 percent tariff or whatever um so

00:44:50.420 why would kamala why would like the pelosis why would the bidens why would uh chuck schumer why

00:44:55.900 would you know because when you think about like who doesn't want a tariff and it's not you know

00:44:59.520 those are all democrats but like let's name the other democrats liz cheney you know and like um

00:45:03.980 whoever whoever else who are um who are the guys who switch yeah and the bushes and you know blah

00:45:10.500 blah blah um all these people they're all they're just it's just controlled opposition two sides of

00:45:15.380 one coin it's it's it's the total state it's uh it's the regime why do they all like uh income

00:45:21.680 tax because they're rich not by actually creating anything none of these people like it's not that

00:45:28.580 they have their own businesses and um and we're we're making a good you know a good uh american

00:45:34.760 product you know the old-fashioned way and selling it you know here in american markets

00:45:38.440 i know these people are rich from um the global gdp they're rich from uh stock the stock market

00:45:45.640 they're they're rich from investments and um these kinds of things and so for them um for them to

00:45:52.800 keep and continue to build their wealth uh they need uh companies that my point is they're betting

00:45:59.660 on on bezos and and amazon they're not betting on the american people that's right the american

00:46:05.040 people thriving and going up the ladder economically doesn't make them richer what makes

00:46:10.660 them richer is not people but companies they need amazon to be able to constantly go and here's the

00:46:17.300 thing if we did this uh initially uh the stock market might go down a little bit the gdp might

00:46:23.660 go down a little bit it would take some getting used to there would be an economic breather i

00:46:28.640 don't want to say crash necessarily there could be but definitely a um a breath in the market and

00:46:34.360 there would be corrections and there would be these because companies would have to get used to

00:46:38.180 all right we have thinner profit margins now because we have to pay bigger wages or we have

00:46:42.320 higher taxes now because we're doing it overseas but now we have this tariff and so any way you

00:46:48.080 slice it the american people would thrive um but these fortune 500 companies or like the magnificent

00:46:54.740 seven like the magnificent seven that you know um nancy pelosi you see her moving you know making

00:47:00.380 her stock trades and these kinds of things and buying more in video but you know um these kinds

00:47:04.920 of companies would would uh the people who work for them would do better the company as a machine

00:47:12.760 as as this you know non-person personless entity would do worse its profit margins would be

00:47:20.480 smaller and the wealth of our elite is built off of companies not people it's built off of machines

00:47:26.920 not human beings they actually they need the american public the citizenry to suffer so that

00:47:35.600 the show must go on so that the gdp keeps going up so that amazon the machine they need amazon

00:47:41.320 the machine to succeed with the highest profit margins possible with the lowest wages and the

00:47:46.800 lowest you know this that and the other cost the lowest bottom line for the highest profit margins 1.00

00:47:51.540 that's what nancy pelosi needs um and what she uh for her wealth to continue and to build um

00:47:58.480 but what trump is talking about who already has wealth right you know trump is saying i just i

00:48:04.140 just want my people my kinsmen my fellow americans i'd like for them to be able to share in some of

00:48:09.160 this wealth too like we once had like we once had that's a better person do you know that the

00:48:13.860 one of the very first things that the u.s government did in 1786 was pass um the tariff

00:48:21.640 act or sorry 1789 that was one of the very first things that they did as a government and that was

00:48:26.340 how they thought fit to fund the operations of the government right interestingly this discussion

00:48:31.580 goes back to medieval um england where there was such a thing as an income tax but it was

00:48:37.580 a tax on what comes in to an estate it was never ever ever an english common law designed to be a

00:48:45.500 tax on the worker for his daily wages it was just you have an estate the king or the lord has to be

00:48:52.760 supported so what comes into the estate some of that is going to go to the lord the income tax

00:48:59.460 and when they passed the income tax originally actually some of the people who passed it

00:49:05.140 originally had no conception that this would be leveraged against the average daily worker for his

00:49:11.040 for his labor and his wages right there is one entity that can demand of your labor that is god

00:49:16.820 because god is the one who gives you the ability to work and the land and blesses it that's the

00:49:21.380 only entity that at a core level can make that demand of you 10 of what you make will come to

00:49:28.400 me god can make that because he gives it to you but the government not so much right

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00:52:51.380 we obviously titled this video trump and rogan they're they're kind of talking about biblical

00:52:54.880 principles and too many christians have yet to put the puzzle piece in on health right so we think

00:53:00.060 about training and exercising everyone's favorite verse where paul says to timothy that bodily

00:53:04.880 training is of some value some account but godliness is of infinite value for the life

00:53:09.360 ahead and so they use that to kind of say like yeah you work out do your pilates but godliness

00:53:13.700 and piety and all of these things, those are the real value. And that is true. That is in

00:53:18.320 scripture, that godliness is of infinite worth for all of eternity. But Paul doesn't say physical

00:53:23.160 training is of no value, minimal value. He's like, it is of some value. And the Bible is not a book

00:53:29.200 of several, three or four letters from Paul. It's 2,000 pages, and there's so much in the Bible.

00:53:34.300 I'm going to read about seven verses here from the Old Testament, especially. The default

00:53:39.600 assumption of the bible is that health fertility strength vitality endurance that these things

00:53:48.120 are blessings that they are a good that they're to be pursued um you know another blessing

00:53:54.200 a legacy a good name oh my word i i just real fast real fast just real fast and on the flip side

00:54:03.400 one of the harshest and most severe judgments temporal earthly judgments that god ever

00:54:07.740 deals out to people is um that they would be forgotten yeah that he would wipe out

00:54:14.300 the remembrance of their name and the earth so certainly we care first and foremost that our

00:54:20.460 name is written in the lamb's book of life for the life to come um but everything that you're

00:54:25.400 listing if i was to put like one heading on that right so fertility right so that you would have

00:54:30.960 what descendants posterity you know uh so whether it's fertility or physical strength or or being

00:54:37.180 able to achieve wealth so that you could pass it down to your children's children. As Proverbs

00:54:42.160 says, a wise man leaves an inheritance to his children's children. What you're talking about,

00:54:45.800 all those things wrapped up in a nutshell with one word is legacy. And part of legacy is earthly

00:54:52.740 remembrance. Not just that your name's written in the Lamb's Book of Life. We never want anything

00:54:57.360 less than that. That's first, of course. Seek ye first the kingdom of heaven and all these earthly

00:55:03.080 things will be added unto you but there are earthly things and they are a blessing and they

00:55:07.820 are added unto us and one of them is godly offspring that would continue the remembrance

00:55:14.220 and the legacy the glory of our name it's the glory of christ's name first and foremost but

00:55:21.200 there is a glory of kings and a glory of men and a glory for women and a glory for children

00:55:27.360 there's a glory for trees for goodness sake there's a glory the glory of every single element

00:55:33.140 of god's created order is doing righteously rightly that which god has has designed them to

00:55:39.280 do and so we yes we want to pursue glory we want eternal rewards in the life to come salvation

00:55:46.160 which is received by grace alone through faith alone in christ alone name in the book of life

00:55:51.020 in heaven but i also make no apologies i want my name if god would be so gracious it would have to

00:55:57.360 be his grace and not just me and my own strength it'll have to be god's grace and it would be for

00:56:02.860 the purpose of achieving god's glory predominantly supremely but i hope that god would use me in such

00:56:11.780 a way to live in a way to parent in a way to pastor in a way um that 500 years from now that

00:56:18.000 that my name would not be completely eradicated from the earth that it wouldn't be forgotten

00:56:23.080 and also last thing i'll say troy is a great movie and movie quotes are fun and you know what

00:56:31.920 um in certain serious contexts probably not always best to use a movie quote i'll own that one but

00:56:39.540 um the meme it's like he's doing the meme right now sometimes i find myself doing the meme and

00:56:44.640 I just can't help it.

00:56:45.560 So, all right.

00:56:46.180 Yeah.

00:56:48.540 Well, we've talked about it before.

00:56:50.360 For the record, my bachelor's is in biology, neuroscience, and my master's is in public

00:56:54.640 health.

00:56:55.020 I am qualified to talk about this.

00:56:56.560 I have the credentials.

00:56:57.500 I've authored the papers.

00:56:59.480 Your genes, what you pass down to your children, is not just eye color, pin color.

00:57:04.620 You pass down, the mother passes down, for instance, mitochondrial health.

00:57:08.380 So if you destroy your health in your 20s, and then you have three or four children,

00:57:11.420 you're passing on to them worse genetic material for their mitochondrial health if you abuse drugs

00:57:18.940 and alcohol in your 20s as a man for example you can affect your sperm health and what's passed on

00:57:23.800 down to them you talk about leaving a legacy your children literally will bear some of the physical

00:57:28.280 legacy of the way you live your life of whether you live it godly right whether you destroy your

00:57:34.620 body so wes real quick just let the listeners know i know you've said in the past but we always have

00:57:38.960 new people tuning in what do you do um uh so i work in life sciences research and and where did

00:57:46.040 you you never brag about this i'm i'm going i'm making west say this i'm making him brag this is

00:57:50.940 not him where did you go to school uh columbia for neuroscience and behavior and you're a military

00:57:55.720 man yep four years in the marine corps west is a good dude um and west is more credentialed than i

00:58:02.020 I have the silver tongue and a silver tongue and should we say balls of steel those are my

00:58:10.260 characteristics and by God's grace it's gotten me far in life it's gotten me in plenty of trouble

00:58:13.860 but it but God has used it for his glory in many ways and and I hope by God's grace to continue to

00:58:18.700 be sanctified and that there would be more good and less and less bad but I've never been a

00:58:23.800 credentialed guy and you are Wes is highly intelligent so is Michael both of them very

00:58:29.740 well read um but you're you're highly intelligent and i remember talking to you and it's just

00:58:34.340 fascinating so i'd like you to flesh it out a little bit more but i remember you applying it

00:58:37.500 to uh churchill um the chief villain of war no i'm just kidding he was a warmonger i really you

00:58:43.660 know we like pat buchanan's book we think that he has a lot of good insights there uh hitler

00:58:47.560 churchill and the unnecessary war uh we wouldn't go quite as far maybe you know as as um marty

00:58:52.780 made daryl cooper i like daryl cooper too just for the record but uh when he was on talker he

00:58:56.500 said the chief villain of world war ii and that upset a lot of people i don't think that um i

00:59:01.440 think that he was a warmonger and i think he uh he extended the war um and crushed uh germany in

00:59:06.440 ways that didn't have to happen that said i don't think he was the chief villain i would probably

00:59:10.500 lay that at the feet of stalin and and hitler and a few others so all that being said here's the

00:59:15.720 point churchill is not quite a hero for me he's just not um but he's also not um some arch villain

00:59:23.860 um but this is one thing that he is um he was a very eccentric man who like played with action

00:59:33.480 figures as he's doing this war kind of thing and sometimes wouldn't wear pants you know and would

00:59:38.780 take you know regular naps about the day optional and smoke like a chimney you know spurgeon famously

00:59:44.380 said you know every single sunday he'd come out of the church and he'd be smoking like as he's

00:59:47.760 giving the uh the pastoral you know he would do the benediction and then run out so that he could

00:59:52.560 catch the congregation each person and shake their hand you know give them a blessing as they're

00:59:56.200 leaving the church and he'd always have a cigar in his hand and one time an elderly woman asked

01:00:00.120 every single sunday i see you with a cigar don't you think that's excessive and he said no

01:00:04.380 and uh and she said well then what would be excessive it's every single time i see you

01:00:10.600 you have a cigar what what could be more excessive than that and he said if i had two cigars

01:00:13.860 so um but my point is churchill he he might have had two cigars he's the dude smoked like a chimney

01:00:20.620 he drank like a fish generally his first drink it was a mix of scotch and water or whiskey and

01:00:25.540 water right when he woke up but he was in his 90s right well he lived to 90 so he does he has

01:00:31.040 amphetamines during the war smokes five to ten cigars a day is drinking whiskey all throughout

01:00:36.300 the day and i mean some of you you like you're millennials and you just turn 30 and uh and you

01:00:41.260 have an ipa and you're hurting last morning oh yeah i can't drink ipa one i the hardest thing 0.87

01:00:47.960 drinking ipas is you have to tell your dad look them in the eyes and tell him you're gay so i

01:00:51.640 don't you know for that reason i can't i can't do it um but beyond that beyond just uh it literally

01:00:57.300 has estrogen um it is the most estrogenic of all beers to nate that is true i'm so sorry but beyond

01:01:02.460 that nate's back that nate loves ipas and he's like i can't believe they're just dragging me

01:01:06.860 right now publicly this stream is going off um so but all that being said nathan let me just say

01:01:11.880 it again nathan drinks ipa okay so um all that being said the point is you're right like it's

01:01:16.980 like i remember telling people i when i hit uh 30 i was like because we would go to pizza you know

01:01:21.780 pizzerias and so you're eating pizza and then you know they have craft beer and drinking ipas

01:01:25.440 and i was like dude i cannot eat a loaf of bread and then drink a loaf of bread right like i just

01:01:31.640 that's that those years of my life are done i can't i can't live like this yeah so well the

01:01:37.300 point being man how does how does churchill smoke and drink and do stimulants and live a very

01:01:43.540 stressful life and live till 90 years old and then you have people in the best of health and

01:01:48.940 there's a coming to cancer this that or the other and my argument that i would make there's a great

01:01:53.100 book deep nutrition that talks about epigenetics we can build up through generations of faithful

01:01:58.560 godly living that is harmonious with the world that god has made you can build up a type of bank

01:02:05.040 account of good health and so you think about churchill he came from a line of lords and strong

01:02:10.440 men and they built up resilience at not just a psychological level or training level at a

01:02:17.240 biological chemical genetic level that faithfulness and strength and stalwartness and undergoing

01:02:24.420 difficulty and persevering through it actually builds up at the genetic level so genes genes

01:02:29.360 can be turned on and off they can be down regulated they can be upregulated so like proteins that help

01:02:35.060 your eyes see all of these things they can be expressed to greater degrees or they can be

01:02:38.900 destroyed through genetic degradation and not express it as well. And you're going blind by

01:02:43.580 your thirties. So Churchill, as an example, I'm guessing his ancestors and the way they lived,

01:02:48.620 healthy, robust, took on challenges, conquered, overcame them. And so he was able to live his

01:02:53.940 whole life and drink and smoke to a greater degree than the average millennial and across

01:02:58.460 New York city and lived in better health than individuals that in their lifetime took great

01:03:04.080 care but were passed down a empty bank account so to speak but that faithfulness again from

01:03:11.080 generations leading up to it affects you and it's not just everyone starts off with a blank slate

01:03:16.140 and they can just muscle through it like no it how your grandparents live how your parents live

01:03:21.700 matter and then you will be a great great grandparent if god blesses you with children

01:03:25.300 great grandparent a parent like then that actually matters to you so faithfulness

01:03:29.820 is so much more than just, well, this impacts me,

01:03:33.660 has value for the life to come.

01:03:35.360 No, it's a cross to your children, to your grandchildren,

01:03:38.420 maybe even to a thousand generations

01:03:40.760 that God would bless the faithfulness

01:03:42.660 of those who live rightly.

01:03:44.160 Let me, I'll just do a couple of verses

01:03:45.720 and then we'll hit the clip.

01:03:48.100 Do not be wise, this is Proverbs 3, 7 through 8.

01:03:50.480 Do not be wise in your own eyes,

01:03:51.940 fear the Lord and shun evil.

01:03:53.540 This will bring health to your body

01:03:55.600 and nourishment to your bones.

01:03:56.520 What you're saying, spiritual disciplines

01:03:58.080 bring physical health.

01:03:59.820 You're telling me we should be healthy?

01:04:03.000 Praise the Lord, my soul.

01:04:04.960 Psalm 103, 2 through 5.

01:04:06.460 Praise the Lord, my soul, and forget not all his benefits, skipping ahead,

01:04:09.660 who satisfies your desires with good things so that your youth is renewed like the eagles.

01:04:15.660 Proverbs 9, 11.

01:04:16.620 For through wisdom your days will be many and years will be added to your life.

01:04:20.480 When we say make America healthy again, getting the poison out of the food supply,

01:04:24.860 the poison out of these fabrics, the poison out of the air, the vaccines out of the body, 0.58

01:04:29.220 that stuff matters it impacts real people so rfk junior not a christian but by god i think he's

01:04:38.380 going to do a lot of good if he's appointed to take over public health and that's what joe and

01:04:42.380 and donald trump are going to say so we've already talked economically now we're going to talk about

01:04:45.840 biologically the physical component and i've got a few thoughts on this like so we're going to watch

01:04:50.340 the clip but then i want to demonstrate for the audience how um all this is rooted in the gospel

01:04:55.060 the gospel affects everything and i remember when i was coming into you know post-millennial

01:04:58.860 um all of christ for all of life kind of thought process you know and like i i that i was like well

01:05:05.120 man like it's not just uh you know uh the home and the church you know but like wow like god's

01:05:11.220 design for men and women actually um actually extends to the civil magistrate and the public

01:05:16.000 sphere and oh wow like um uh even uh economics and when it comes to money and these kinds of

01:05:21.360 things that like biblical principles actually generate wealth. And that's not a prosperity

01:05:25.780 gospel. This is one of the things I remember I had to caveat so many times, and I'll do it again

01:05:30.300 because there's always new people who are jumping on the train. Here's the deal. The prosperity

01:05:36.220 gospel in a nutshell is this. The prosperity gospel is not that Joel Osteen teaches people

01:05:40.800 if you work really hard and you study really hard and you do this and you do that, and here's all

01:05:47.400 these principles you will be wealthy that's not that's not the prosperity gospel but joel osteen

01:05:51.680 and kenneth copeland and these kinds of guys what they're telling people is um if you just have faith

01:05:56.300 in your faith they're they're actually saying um you can be lazy right you don't it's not about

01:06:01.880 hard work um the uh hard work bringing about not always so it's not a guarantee the bible doesn't

01:06:08.580 guarantee this uh here's the key word remember this word ordinarily right okay because you can

01:06:13.320 work hard and if you're in a corrupt system if you're a citizen of north korea and you work hard

01:06:18.720 right you might still be poor yeah but in in america a country like ours that's really got

01:06:23.820 some problems but still has a lot of freedom and a lot of blessing by god's grace in a country like

01:06:28.520 ours if you're poor most often it's because you're lazy yep it's because you're lazy now that doesn't

01:06:34.860 mean everybody's going to be a millionaire but when i say poor i mean if you're homeless if

01:06:38.240 you're on the street it's probably because you either have some kind of psychotic uh like 0.97

01:06:42.180 legitimate mental issue, or you're a drug addict, or you're lazy. That pretty much comprises all 0.97

01:06:48.700 the homeless. It's not people who are like, I'm working as hard as I can, you know, 50 hours a

01:06:54.100 week, you know, and I have to live outside. Like, I don't know anybody like that in America. So my

01:06:59.820 point is, when we talk about the gospel affecting everything, and as it affects economics, biblical

01:07:04.660 principles actually do ordinarily generate wealth. And what we're talking about is hard work

01:07:11.340 brings uh hard work is just one example uh hard work in the realm of vocation is just one example

01:07:17.020 of obedience and what the bible teaches is the the overarching 30 000 foot principle again and

01:07:22.340 again is that obedience brings blessing it brings blessing in the life to come guaranteed and it

01:07:28.600 brings blessing temporally in this life ordinarily so guaranteed blessing in life to come ordinarily

01:07:34.640 blessing in this life as well and that's across the board uh and that includes economic it also

01:07:38.860 includes physical so you can obey god and get hit by a truck that's true you can obey god and get

01:07:43.340 cancer that's true and anybody who says you know if you just have enough faith then you know health

01:07:48.420 you'll you'll be wealthy you don't have to work hard you can be wealthy by just believing you can

01:07:52.240 be healthy by just believing that's not what we're saying here right what we're saying is um ordinarily

01:07:58.100 there are always extenuating circumstances god is sovereign and he does what he determines is right

01:08:04.200 and sometimes he determines that we suffer for his glory and for our eternal good and and at

01:08:10.680 at the cost of our temporal good we acknowledge that 100 we would never say anything against that

01:08:16.500 but what we're saying essentially is we're now taking the conversation from economics and we're

01:08:20.960 applying it to health but it's the same principle where ultimately what we're talking about is

01:08:24.800 obedience obedience in the economic realm means hard work in your vocation ordinarily generates

01:08:30.980 wealth now what we're going to talk about is hard work in in the realm of your health will

01:08:35.660 ordinarily generate um lasting health and here's the crazy thing that that wes is bringing in with

01:08:42.640 the epigenetic conversation is we would think that well but with wealth that can at least be passed

01:08:48.040 down so it's not just that i can be wealthy but a good man like like the problem say a wise man

01:08:52.720 leaves an inheritance for his children's children there's a financial piece that certainly that's

01:08:56.640 spiritual certainly a wise man leaves a spiritual inheritance we're not saying it's anything less

01:09:01.980 we're just saying it's i think it's more and so leaving a spiritual inheritance first leaving a

01:09:06.580 monetary inheritance also but the crazy thing is now we are discovering actively discovering in

01:09:12.840 the realm of science that there's a way to even live leave a physical health uh um inheritance

01:09:18.880 that you actually by the way you live your life and the health decisions you make your diet

01:09:24.240 your exercise all these kinds of things what what poison you put in your body what poison you don't

01:09:29.660 put in your body um you actually can be setting the stage not just for you to live a long life

01:09:35.500 but for your great great grandchildren to live a long life yeah and my point is this god will not

01:09:40.920 be mocked a man reaps what he sows though all we're discovering in the realm of economics in

01:09:45.520 the realm of science and all these different things is oh my goodness uh god was right god

01:09:50.480 was right god was right the gospel affects everything and the flip side is also true the

01:09:55.200 last thing i'll say real quick if you're in a country that for a thousand years has worshiped

01:10:00.560 demons and instead of eating cows which are nutritious and good beef you use cow feces

01:10:07.580 in order to cook with and things like that and the cows roam free because

01:10:12.140 they're a deity of sorts and you worship them um or if you're a country that uh is practicing

01:10:19.960 cannibalism right you know or these kinds of things and or if if you're a people that drugs

01:10:25.220 are are are a core staple of your people's rituals and customs and pyote and all these

01:10:31.820 kinds of things and opium and um and and it's not just you did it and it affected your health 0.58

01:10:37.480 as an individual person but but uh you did it and your your parents did it and your grandparents

01:10:42.920 did your great-grandparents your ancestors for a thousand years have been eating things that are

01:10:48.740 not good to eat and living in ways that are not good and that doesn't even bring into the case

01:10:53.360 like we did the whole episode of statistics on sexual behaviors and how that affects your health

01:10:58.320 men receiving within their own bodies the due penalty for their sin romans one that's a thing

01:11:06.280 that is a thing god will not be mocked his word is true so if you are living in uh sexually

01:11:12.600 unhealthy ways um eating uh unhealthy things um chemicals that are unhealthy um vaccines that are

01:11:20.740 unhealthy drug use that like and there's all these kinds of things and and if you're a part of a

01:11:27.220 culture and people that has done these kinds of things for a thousand years would there be an

01:11:33.240 effect like would would there would there be an effect on your health would there be an effect

01:11:38.940 on your lifespan where there also is a question that is, I think, biblically permissible to ask

01:11:45.080 because you're not talking about something that God wrote in the stars as a biased favoritism

01:11:53.180 of one people over another, but you're talking about habits and behaviors in God's world with

01:11:58.800 rules that God set that ultimately all stems from worship. It all stems from worship. It is

01:12:04.820 religious you know what's super religious diet diet is extremely religious um and every religion

01:12:11.560 has their dietary restrictions some are good some are bad and so the way that you live sexually the

01:12:16.400 way you live with food and diet and all these kinds of things and with drugs um if if you don't

01:12:21.060 worship demons and your ancestors for 1500 years all the way back to constantine you know or a

01:12:26.420 thousand years at least going back to king alfred if your ancestors have worshipped the triune god

01:12:31.180 i remember reading and i'm so sorry i remember reading to my girls just just a few months back

01:12:38.720 i was reading to the treasure island and ben uh who is it ben dunn or ben gunn ben gunn he's he's

01:12:45.800 you know marauded uh um on the island for six years and as soon as he's found because you know

01:12:52.220 jim hawkins and everybody lands on the island as soon as he finds jim hawkins the first one of the

01:12:56.420 first things he asked he said i wasn't raised to be a pagan you know my mom raised me as a good

01:13:00.340 christian boy and he said and for six uh these six years i've been without a christian diet

01:13:04.340 yep please do you have any cheese i remember that or or um butter or eggs yep um he and he calls it

01:13:11.800 in the writing christian diet this was just the normal way and i and i it's like well that's

01:13:15.520 fantastic yeah but but a real person wrote the book and that's my point is that within european

01:13:21.360 particularly an anglo conception for a thousand years um with european christian nations they

01:13:28.160 wouldn't just say a good diet or a healthy diet a christian diet they viewed it as as worship it

01:13:34.940 was worship affects everything how you invest how you work how you build wealth how you eat what you

01:13:40.480 don't eat how monogamy monogamy in marriage that's not going to spread diseases and all these kinds

01:13:47.340 of things and and if you don't have that because your culture it all stems from worship and your

01:13:52.540 culture worships demons and that affects eating the diet of demons sharing in the table of demons

01:13:58.700 having orgies to appease the demons and human sacrifice all these kinds of things then guess

01:14:04.420 what um you're not it's not just oh spiritually um there's a problem no physically there's going

01:14:10.920 to be physical results of that physically you're going to have lower lifespans physically you're

01:14:15.100 not going to be as healthy physically there's going to be more diseases and physically because

01:14:18.800 you are quite literally what you eat. And over a thousand years, not just, you know, it happens in

01:14:24.360 15 minutes, but over generations, your diet and all these things constructs your body, your health.

01:14:29.640 It also affects your mind. It affects your mind. And so those who have been worshiping the triune

01:14:36.100 God with good dietary practices and good customs and practicing monogamy in marriage and not doing

01:14:45.000 a bunch of drugs and having a christian diet um and and and engaging in exercise over a thousand

01:14:51.600 years with whatever that would be i don't know 40 generations 50 like um yeah i i don't think

01:14:59.540 it's crazy to say your descendants would be healthier and they might even have um they might

01:15:06.240 they might even be a little smarter actually at a biological level that's something and not because

01:15:12.100 is written in the stars, not that it always has to be that way. The debt can be shuffled. It can

01:15:15.260 be rearranged. In God's providence, if the West apostatizes, then over time, you mess around,

01:15:23.640 you find out. And I think the West will suffer greatly. We will be unhealthy, we'll be poor,

01:15:29.320 and we'll be dumb. And if, by God's grace, Vodibachum is successful in Zambia,

01:15:34.640 it's not going to happen in his generation. But I think over 200 years, 300, over time,

01:15:39.920 zambia could be uh not just a powerhouse for theology but a titan of civilization right

01:15:46.420 period across the board with with uh higher intelligence and innovation and all the that's

01:15:53.040 so the point is it matters the gospel affects everything our faith affects everything who you

01:16:00.720 worship affects everything and we're not just leaving inheritance for our children's children

01:16:04.340 spiritually but also monetarily and also even physically it's crazy to think it's crazy to

01:16:10.600 think how and that's why yes over the last few years as i've come into these convictions from

01:16:16.420 reading the bible that's why yeah i got passionate about talking about these things and that's why

01:16:22.240 we do podcasts on these topics and while we're talking we're going to show this clip with rfk

01:16:26.380 why it matters for trump to win because you get rfk and your kids might live longer and i'd like

01:16:32.400 my kids not to die sooner crazy you know crazy right these things matter so do you guys have

01:16:38.760 anything before we share the clip nope let's go for it there are chemicals and ingredients that

01:16:45.300 are our food that are illegal in other countries because they've been shown to be toxic there's 0.96

01:16:50.880 pesticides and herbicides and there's a lot of shit that's been sprayed on our food that really 0.94

01:16:56.520 is unnecessary and there's a lot of health consequences that people are suffering from 0.93

01:17:01.300 a lot of these things and to this chart for you beautiful because i had a feeling you'd be asking

01:17:05.920 me thank you look at this chart these are healthier countries look where the united

01:17:09.820 states is i'm going to send this to rfk jr so this is uh well something along the i was actually

01:17:17.380 talking to rfk today and he told me that more than 70 percent of young men are ineligible for

01:17:24.180 the military because of their health i could see it that's crazy a lot of it's obesity here's the

01:17:29.680 Life expectancy versus health expenditure.

01:17:33.100 Same chart.

01:17:34.120 Yeah.

01:17:34.420 Did you see that?

01:17:35.340 USA.

01:17:35.820 Wow.

01:17:36.260 That's pretty good.

01:17:37.080 Jamie's the best.

01:17:37.760 He's very good.

01:17:38.560 He's the best.

01:17:40.020 But look at that.

01:17:40.840 Look at the USA.

01:17:41.920 Not good.

01:17:42.620 And that's our food.

01:17:43.620 That's our diet.

01:17:44.580 That's sedentary lifestyle.

01:17:46.180 That's our diet.

01:17:46.900 That's the chemicals we ingest.

01:17:48.900 That's what that is.

01:17:49.600 But RFK is going to be very, you know, I think he's a great guy.

01:17:54.080 I think he's great.

01:17:54.740 I love the fact that you guys teamed up.

01:17:55.980 Yeah.

01:17:56.120 And are you guys, are you completely committed to have him a part of your administration?

01:18:00.020 Oh, I am.

01:18:00.500 But the only thing I want to be a little careful about with him is the environmental.

01:18:05.520 Because, you know, he doesn't like oil.

01:18:06.840 I love oil and gas.

01:18:08.120 I think, you know, I think.

01:18:08.900 Just keep him out of that.

01:18:09.540 To fire.

01:18:10.160 So I'm going to sort of keep him out of a little.

01:18:11.980 I said, focus on health.

01:18:13.860 Focus.

01:18:14.340 You can do whatever you want.

01:18:15.800 But I've got to be a little bit careful with the liquid gold, you know?

01:18:19.280 I understand.

01:18:20.520 But listen, there's plenty of good work that could be done if you focus on health.

01:18:23.740 Here's the one that's my all-time favorite, though.

01:18:26.760 What is that?

01:18:27.220 See the arrow right here?

01:18:28.440 That's when I left.

01:18:29.040 Do you have anyone that is pressuring you to not work with him?

01:18:33.700 Have there been people that are reaching RFK Jr.?

01:18:37.560 Yes.

01:18:38.240 Yes, I would imagine.

01:18:39.800 Because financially, he can put a dent.

01:18:41.640 I would say that, and I think in many ways they've done a good job, in many ways they've done a bad job.

01:18:48.520 But I would say that the big pharma wasn't thrilled when they heard that, you know, I have a relationship.

01:18:55.880 I've actually always gotten along very well with him.

01:18:58.240 I've known him a long time.

01:19:00.040 He's a different kind of a guy.

01:19:01.320 He's very smart, great guy.

01:19:03.240 And he's very sincere about this.

01:19:04.920 I mean, he really is, you know, he thinks we spend a fortune on pesticides and all this stuff.

01:19:10.220 And then you end up with that chart is a terrible chart.

01:19:12.740 The one previous.

01:19:14.200 It's such a bad chart.

01:19:15.460 When you look at where we are compared to other countries that don't spend 10 cents.

01:19:19.640 So, you know, and you save a lot of money.

01:19:21.400 But, yeah, I've had some people that aren't exactly thrilled.

01:19:25.300 You can imagine, right?

01:19:26.620 Sure.

01:19:27.100 It's a good question, actually.

01:19:28.160 Well, certainly if there have been some pharmaceutical drugs that have been prescribed that have negative consequences that these people have been profiting off of.

01:19:38.420 And then you have a guy like RFK Jr. who spends an enormous amount of time highlighting those things.

01:19:42.920 you could see how they'd be very reluctant to have you support him i would say that's an

01:19:47.400 understatement yeah all right we actually have that chart that uh he my favorite thing about

01:19:55.300 that clip was when he was amazed that joe rogan's producer was able to pull that chart and put it

01:20:01.280 on the screen i'm amazed yeah yeah there it is just pulled it up nathan nathan just got but no

01:20:05.960 trump is like he's just i was looking at michael we were talking to he's just your typical grandpa

01:20:10.400 you know he's like oh wow you're uh your guy look at that he just pulled up that chart wow amazing

01:20:15.560 trump probably to be fair he probably has a newfound like an almost unhuman appreciation

01:20:22.360 for charts oh yes you know since he saved his life yeah all right all right so here's here's

01:20:28.420 this chart that he referenced and you know for what it's worth here it is and it shows um i think

01:20:33.520 this goes through 2018, that if you move to the right, that's the amount of money that's spent

01:20:40.540 on average per person per year on healthcare, on healthcare-related things to keep them healthy,

01:20:47.360 to keep them living a long time. And then it shows what the life expectancy, the average life

01:20:52.200 expectancy is. So this goes from 1970 to 2018. And what this shows is that we spend, I mean,

01:20:58.620 almost twice as much as the next uh nation behind us switzerland and then twice as much or more

01:21:05.900 than almost every other developed nation these are developed nations guys this is not you know

01:21:10.680 some third world country these are developed nations we spend way more per person in america

01:21:16.600 and our average life expectancy at least as of 2018 was what is that five five years less right

01:21:25.080 and we were shooting up at about the same rate

01:21:28.420 that the other countries were in the 85.

01:21:34.240 And then we've kind of tipped over,

01:21:36.660 our growth, our acceleration decreased

01:21:39.280 and now we're kind of plateauing

01:21:40.500 and we're even dropping down, okay?

01:21:42.920 And so I would think as a politician,

01:21:44.760 as a governor, as a president, whatever,

01:21:47.960 you would look at a chart like this

01:21:49.060 and this would be concerning, right?

01:21:50.740 This would be extremely, extremely concerning.

01:21:52.460 yeah if you are a good that's you know uh watson talks about this in um his book the ten commandments

01:21:59.700 and all the reformers i i you know watson's one of them i like watson because he's easier to read

01:22:05.720 everybody wants to start with john owen john owen's probably the hardest puritan to read i mean

01:22:09.420 one sentence is like two and a half pages long and so um god bless john owen i've read mortification

01:22:15.160 of sin um he's great but uh start start with somebody like watson so thomas watson uh in the

01:22:20.980 10 commandments and the fifth commandment he talks about honoring fathers and he talks about

01:22:24.080 different types of fathers familial fathers ancient fathers because everybody thinks you know

01:22:28.420 uh your generation isn't obeying the fifth commandment because they think that fathers

01:22:32.800 honoring fathers must mean and only mean our immediate fathers aka uh the older generation

01:22:38.260 like boomers and uh you guys disagree with boomers a lot you know and some of you blue-eyed you know

01:22:43.480 red avatar guys uh you're disrespectful to boomers on x and i would say hey guys try to be respectful

01:22:50.240 but you absolutely can't disagree um and a lot of times here's the irony in disagreeing with our

01:22:55.160 immediate fathers we're doing what watson actually says he's baked into the fifth commandment a part

01:23:00.580 of the commandment of god is we're agreeing with um ancient fathers like what do you do if if your

01:23:07.040 immediate fathers are actually standing in rebellion um to every single father that preceded

01:23:13.680 them um then the only way to honor um all of your fathers is actually um to you're going to have to

01:23:21.260 disagree now how you do that you need to be charitable but you're going to have to disagree

01:23:25.060 with your immediate father so there's familial fathers there's ancient father there's spiritual

01:23:29.160 fathers ecclesiastical fathers in the church um but then also thomas watson gets to um

01:23:35.200 civil fathers and calvin you know talks about this calvin talks about like as a nursing father

01:23:42.060 um that you know the civil magistrate uh is supposed to be a father and and i'm watching

01:23:47.600 this and again trump is not the christian prince uh there's a lot of problems with trump but i'm

01:23:53.880 watching this clip as i listened to the interview you know i listened to the whole thing but i

01:23:58.420 remember thinking like yeah that's that's what a father would think he'd think um how can my people

01:24:04.180 yep that god has ordained me an authority over um their their um quality of life is my

01:24:13.560 responsibility um and they're dying sooner than they used to yep and it's costing more of their

01:24:20.660 money as we tax them to keep them alive to keep them from dying than it ever did and more than

01:24:25.740 it's costing all the other civil fathers of all their citizens what is going on here we've got

01:24:31.880 to fix this my children are dying i'm a civil father i have an obligation more obligation to 0.92

01:24:38.900 preserve their that's how that's how fathers think he it's it's the it's the freaking meme dude it's

01:24:45.740 the uh it's the heat the heat map yeah um kamala harris you know who she she thinks like a mother

01:24:51.340 too she's not one that's a that's another difference trump actually has children and 1.00

01:24:55.260 grandchildren she doesn't um because she opted for wearing you know a pantsuit via a boss lady 1.00

01:25:00.140 you know and instead of actually being a mother but um but she has still that she can't help she's 1.00

01:25:06.420 created in the image of god as a female she has a motherly instinct uh here's the problem you know 0.99

01:25:10.580 who it's applied to everyone except for you right she she has motherly concern deep motherly concern 0.83

01:25:17.780 um for those who are illegally crossing your border yeah she has deep motherly concern for um 0.99

01:25:25.120 for you know anyone like her who also doesn't want to be a literal mother and wants to murder

01:25:30.500 their baby um she has deep motherly concern for ukraine deep motherly concern for pretty much

01:25:36.780 anybody except for you trump actually talks about me he talks about america when i say me i don't

01:25:42.980 just mean me and i don't just mean men and i don't just mean white men i mean americans trump

01:25:48.220 actually cares about americans and thinks like a civil father is he is he wrong on certain things

01:25:54.740 yes but there's two choices and trump is so much better yeah yeah yeah so i mean some of the some

01:26:03.800 of the reasons why the american life expectancy is declining the big one is obesity right and

01:26:10.080 i you know i'm the pot calling the cuddle black here i have some weight to lose but obesity is

01:26:16.800 is over 70 percent of americans overweight more than a third of them are obese and obesity is

01:26:22.760 linked to so many other health risks, right? And so this has more to do than just diet, but certainly

01:26:27.920 not getting nutritious foods, not getting exercise, not using our bodies the way that God designed

01:26:33.040 them to. The one thing that I do want to point out that is a little bit in our favor is our infant

01:26:37.920 mortality rate is the highest of any developed nation in the world. One of the reasons for that

01:26:43.020 is number one, we have the most advanced NICUs where we can deliver babies at 26 weeks and keep

01:26:49.540 them alive and number two we still to some degree have a value of trying to preserve those young

01:26:57.140 lives at least if the mother wants our mortality rate is the lowest you're saying the fewest

01:27:00.800 infants nope we lose more babies than any other nation our nick use because we're willing to try

01:27:06.500 and deliver a baby at 26 weeks um or we're not going to just abort like like even though we are

01:27:11.740 aborting nation a lot of women still love the child in their womb and would say no let's try

01:27:19.660 it let's not just abort it it has down syndrome you know there are there are developed nations 0.94

01:27:24.460 who have claimed that they've eradicated down syndrome eradicated birth defects they don't

01:27:29.100 have children who die young part of it is because they just abort them as soon as they find and

01:27:32.860 that those and those abortions do not count as infant mortality rate yeah so that's good to know

01:27:39.440 i just wanted to say too i don't think it's a coincidence that you because any society is run

01:27:44.160 by men even if supposedly angela merkel is president of like it's men that make laws it's

01:27:49.680 men that build societies it's men that protect it with the military every society is run by men i

01:27:54.160 don't think it's coincidence 80s the 90s the 2000s that as men have been systematically under attack

01:27:59.680 through these things like diet through these things like um like smut and stuff that comes

01:28:05.520 across on television that pacify and placate as they've been forced to take middle management

01:28:10.400 positions and sit there under fluorescent lights for eight hours a day and be lectured by the hr

01:28:14.880 lady i don't think it's coincidence as you downgrade men you make them weaker you make them

01:28:19.360 fatter you make them softer you make them less assertive you make them less aggressive you take

01:28:23.200 away their do that you take away their nicotine you ban their flavors you got to talk about

01:28:28.720 nicotine a little bit we're going to talk about guys in the chat asking so hold on um but you do 1.00

01:28:33.600 that and then you get a bunch of men that are willing to let a kamala harris take the reins

01:28:38.160 of their party that are willing to let women take the lead that won't stand up and fight against 0.99

01:28:42.880 the illegal immigrant that's coming into their neighborhood taking it over executing violence 1.00

01:28:47.440 got guys coming onto the subway harassing haranguing there's women complaining like why 0.72

01:28:51.920 aren't men standing up doing anything well the policies that you support for the last 30 years

01:28:57.040 have made sure that there is no man strong enough aggressive enough and manly enough

01:29:02.880 to do something and the one who was because he was a united states marine is about to go on trial

01:29:07.520 daniel penny and so all that to say why would men stand up but you stand up and uh you got a good

01:29:14.160 chance of going to jail yeah so make america healthy again man if men were stronger if you

01:29:21.280 got men back to even just health levels we had i don't know 50 years ago you would not just see men

01:29:26.800 being more fit and living longer lives you'd see them voting more conservative you'd see them more

01:29:32.080 active in civil office because it's all connected soft men that love proverbs talks so much about

01:29:38.480 gluttony and laziness soft men that love comfort are not going to do uncomfortable things like

01:29:43.800 dusty deavers getting on his feet knocking on doors fighting taking all the flack that he did

01:29:48.840 to be senators they're going to sit back they're going to say oh there's a lion in the street

01:29:52.320 they're going to put their hand in the ball someone else has got to do that job so it's it's

01:29:56.720 not just a matter of well we want people to live longer we do want people to have kids yep we do

01:30:01.580 but also when you fix those things you know who you know who gets really right wing men who have

01:30:06.860 families they go from being single to then married having children it's also the trajectory as they

01:30:13.300 get more right wing they realize how important these things are they realize that their children

01:30:17.540 will inhabit and inherit the world that they set up for them so it all encompassing make america

01:30:23.100 healthy again and i think it's going to have a lot of great benefits in the years to come

01:30:27.120 If, by God's grace, we see, I would say, even half of this enacted, put into practice, et cetera.

01:30:32.960 I agree.

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01:33:03.560 all right well so i mean we could really go on and on and um we're not going to uh shockingly

01:33:14.360 but the point is it was remarkable to me that these two issues in particular stood out as such

01:33:21.860 biblical ideas right such godly principles and not that again they're not the godly men

01:33:28.120 but god's principles are timeless and they apply and so i was just really surprised to hear man

01:33:34.140 trump and joe rogan are sounding more christian than a lot of christian pastors on some of these

01:33:38.940 practical issues of wealth and economics the christian pastors are pietists they just can't

01:33:43.940 go there like every time i you see you know it's like there's like a calendar like like protestants

01:33:50.820 the reform world we have our own church calendar apparently it's unspoken it's not written down

01:33:55.120 but it's like um you know each month it's like uh this is the month for posting of uh why men

01:34:01.060 and women should dress nicely for church yeah and and the usual suspects are going to come out and

01:34:06.320 like uh you uh god come as you are and blah blah blah you know and then like guys will literally

01:34:11.180 do like little videos of wearing like short pink shorts going going into church and thinking that

01:34:17.940 like it like they're owning yeah they're owning that yeah i'm like oh my good and these are like

01:34:22.980 conservative guys and i'm like my yeah i yeah like 95 degrees two weeks ago and i wore a suit

01:34:30.020 to church amen like um yeah so like and then you'll see the things about like why a man should

01:34:35.040 own a gun right you know and then you'll see the things about like um women making sourdough or

01:34:41.980 you'll see the thing about um eating healthy or working out you know all those kinds of things 0.60

01:34:46.480 and but my point is it's always the same guys right and they're christian pastors yeah they're

01:34:52.660 christian pastors who will come out and just disparage it um and i've yet to see the post

01:34:59.660 where somebody's saying um uh working out gets you to heaven i get you to heaven or matters more

01:35:05.720 than a relationship with christ or i i've never but they're just saying guys these things matter

01:35:10.740 yep and so and you know when we when we talk about how christendom is falling apart

01:35:14.820 i still remember i won't say who but a guy in my past who was like well what's the big deal about

01:35:19.420 that. Like, we don't understand what we're losing. We're losing a system that aligned largely with

01:35:25.560 God's order that was designed for human prosperity, right? And so, we're losing that. And it doesn't

01:35:31.900 just come back overnight. It doesn't come back in the generation. So, anyway, we didn't want to

01:35:35.780 leave you all just there. We have, Wes has done a little bit of research, some White Pill Wednesday 0.72

01:35:39.840 research, potentially. And so, just going to talk about the election next week. By the way,

01:35:45.040 it is next Tuesday, in case you didn't know. Go out and vote if you haven't done so already.

01:35:49.420 and if joel's baby doesn't show up there's not conflicting circumstances we will be live streaming

01:35:54.140 in the evening as results come in lord willing yeah so please don't clear all your plans right

01:35:59.420 clear most of them the plan is to live stream uh the election um so so yeah it's tentative so the

01:36:05.820 the due date please be praying a couple things due date is november 1st so friday uh we'll see

01:36:09.980 what happens but friday is the due date um for mabel is um her name and then um also we really

01:36:17.420 need um our our youngest um oh yeah uh franklin to get better because he's still um having to like

01:36:23.500 sleep in bed with us and because he's just uh waking up and choking um he's just got the he's

01:36:29.500 been sick he's been sick yeah he's just got this deep deep cough and uh really deep cough so please

01:36:35.300 pray uh for safe delivery um for mabel uh healing for franklin and then i you know i said it as a

01:36:41.740 throwaway kind of joking, but it is serious. Please pray for just protection and favor that

01:36:47.600 there's just a lot of people have, they've found where our church meets online and we're in the

01:36:55.760 process, Lord willing, of getting a building, but we're not there yet. And so they found where

01:37:00.660 our church meets and they started trying to boycott that business to where they're losing

01:37:04.600 business. It's hurting them and just incessantly calling them on the phone and cursing at

01:37:11.620 them and telling them you need to uh kick kick them out and that's been happening for a year

01:37:16.340 off and on but just relentlessly for the last few weeks as i've been going by the clips from

01:37:22.480 right wing watch have gotten like yeah you you correct me i don't look at it i try not to look

01:37:26.780 at it all the time like i like i you know my name every now and then will like even trend and i'm

01:37:32.920 like i just i'm not gonna search joel levin but i think it was at least five million maybe

01:37:37.900 yeah the one five million then a couple others that circulated the older ones no only two million

01:37:43.560 a piece so together together i mean 10 million is is in the ballpark it's not a crazy um crazy

01:37:49.960 number and um and so with that uh there's just as you guys can probably imagine just incredible

01:37:55.280 pressure uh shout out to some of the guys who are here in the chat today but um a group of guys are

01:38:01.200 actually trying to raise money for my wife and I to help us purchase a security system because

01:38:09.620 the uptick in death threats has been extraordinary recently. We have had protesters at the house.

01:38:16.320 We've never had anybody try to break in, but all it takes is one. And so there, I really appreciate

01:38:21.620 that. I just want to say thank you to, you guys know who you are, but guys who are raising money

01:38:25.660 to help uh in my home personally the weapons um by a security system and uh but if you guys could

01:38:32.140 also pray for this business um pray that they get business pray that they prosper and pray that

01:38:37.280 yeah the business that we meet uh pray that people leave them alone us because otherwise

01:38:42.380 they're gonna they and they were so kind about it they said joel we have defended you and ignored

01:38:46.700 the pressure campaign for a year um but but the last few has been so severe that uh if it doesn't

01:38:53.460 let up we're gonna have to kick you guys out and i have no hard feelings i get it like they can't

01:38:58.660 go under as a business um i get it and um and i've i have nothing but appreciation and respect

01:39:04.160 for these people they've been very kind to us it's your salt of the earth it's like an 86 year

01:39:09.480 old man owns the restaurant um and there's on the marquee outside you know there's a bible verse

01:39:15.180 you know every sunday when we come and he's a baptist who's gone to church you know his whole

01:39:19.900 life and loves jesus and um yeah he's he's he's a great guy and uh and his daughter is very kind

01:39:27.100 and so anyways um but we we might lose our our church and uh and the thing is like oh well you

01:39:33.280 just rent somewhere else uh you guys you guys don't get it like i understand i was i was a

01:39:38.140 church planter once upon a time uh and and didn't have much of a public profile and and just like

01:39:44.020 yeah we'll talk to this coffee shop we'll talk to this whatever you know movie theater but um

01:39:48.740 um everybody knows who i am like they um nobody will let us meet we've talked to churches we've

01:39:55.380 talked to dozens of churches this is churches much less public schools and private schools and

01:40:00.300 um they won't you know they're not going to let our church meet so we have to have our own property

01:40:06.000 because we basically we have to have security we have to be able to um we have to be able to tell

01:40:11.120 um the enemies of god pound sand and you can't tell the enemies of god pound sand if you're at

01:40:16.500 their mercy right that's why that's in some sense you could link that to this whole episode that's

01:40:20.600 why yeah let's be healthy um yeah let's uh let's try to be financially independent yeah let's try

01:40:26.660 to um to be physically strong let's try to uh yeah like um for for home defense own a gun like all

01:40:33.960 these kinds of things um so so that you are not at the mercy of the wicked you don't want to be

01:40:39.340 at the mercy of the wicked you're always at the mercy of god of course but as far as you can help

01:40:44.100 it yeah man um try to insulate yourself in the province of god trusting in him alone but also

01:40:51.160 having some dry powder on the side and so pray for our church pray for my son franklin to be

01:40:55.960 healed pray for my wife and and our daughter to be born to be healthy and safe and please pray for

01:41:01.080 our church covenant bible um that we wouldn't lose our space as we're trying uh to get our

01:41:06.680 own building all right all right wednesday white pill on the state of elections and then we'll

01:41:11.680 hit nicotine and i think that'll be a wrap all right um so i'm optimistic so take what i have

01:41:18.160 to say with a grain of grain of salt like i said grain of sand um which one is it salt grain of

01:41:23.760 salt uh i'm optimistic um based on we're looking at so the election comes down to swing states

01:41:35.040 texas it's going red california is going blue generally speaking so it's really a handful of

01:41:39.880 states are called the Sun Belt and the Rust Belt. And some of these states now, as you've noticed,

01:41:43.800 election is not a day. It's not even an election week. It's more like election month, election

01:41:48.580 season. It's a long period of time. And there's certain states that allow early voting, whether

01:41:53.900 that be people bringing in absentee ballots, mailing them in or doing in person. Now, the

01:41:58.400 cool thing is, is that you can take those and you can look at the party identifications. You can

01:42:02.220 look at so-and-so returned their ballot. They're a registered Democrat. So-and-so returned their

01:42:05.900 ballot they're a registered republican you can look at that you can get an estimate how are we

01:42:10.240 looking compared to midterms how are we looking compared to general elections and so this will be

01:42:16.260 outdated i would say in like five days we'll know the results but really we all know it'll be like

01:42:20.240 two weeks right but in a couple weeks uh won't spend too long on this this will be outdated

01:42:24.220 but i think if you're a christian and you're optimistic that trump would be uh elected and

01:42:28.680 everything that comes with it that we've been talking about in this episode from taxes to rfk

01:42:32.340 uh elon musk a department of government efficiency right we're pumped about that uh so if you're

01:42:37.380 along with that you're hoping gets elected i think there's reason to be optimistic i'm going

01:42:40.820 to show you statistics from two swing states and i'm going to compare 2020 and 2024 for the record

01:42:46.320 uh 2020 most secure election of our lifetime if you believe that i have some wonderful property

01:42:51.920 oceanfront in kansas call immediately there were shenanigans uh there were data dumps vote dumps

01:42:58.200 in the middle of the night there were people hanging up you know like blocking windows stuff

01:43:02.000 like that i know all of those existed we don't have time to get into all of those but at least

01:43:06.520 as it stands assuming that stuff doesn't happen again or even if it does that the margin is too

01:43:11.100 wide here's kind of where we stand so this is pennsylvania uh if you're listening i have some

01:43:16.780 charts on the screen i'll go ahead and explain them democrats vote more early and via mail so

01:43:22.460 democrats in pennsylvania especially they're going to return more ballots so on the left side of the

01:43:27.300 total ballots returned prior to election day prior to election day or all ballot ballots all

01:43:33.680 ballot returns prior to election day 65 were democrat 24 roughly were republican and the

01:43:40.640 other 12 were independent so the firewall total the lead the democrats had november 7th the day

01:43:47.480 before election was 1.1 million so that means election day you need not just 50 plus one right

01:43:53.300 But then another 1.1 million on top.

01:43:56.320 Pennsylvania was only decided, you'll see on the right side, the margin of victory.

01:43:59.820 I'll put victory in quotes there.

01:44:02.140 81,000 votes.

01:44:03.680 Small.

01:44:04.520 Almost 7 million individuals voted in Pennsylvania.

01:44:07.160 It's a key swing state.

01:44:08.140 Decided by a very small margin.

01:44:10.340 And what you're looking at here then, so you have on the left side, 65% Democrat.

01:44:14.360 Well, now of the returns to date, as of October 28th, two days ago, it's only 58% Democrat.

01:44:20.380 So it's down 6.5%.

01:44:22.660 we're talking hundreds of thousands of votes and republican is up by 7.8 percent that's huge so as

01:44:29.180 a relative share of the early vote huge huge in 2020 65 down to 58 republican was 23 up to 31

01:44:39.120 percent now i'm going to go ahead and i'm going to show nevada so pennsylvania is a rust belt state

01:44:43.040 really big one 19 electoral votes here's nevada nevada since 2004 was the last time we went

01:44:48.320 Republican. So it's been blue. 2020, early vote by party, 39% Democrat, 40% Democrat, 36%

01:44:56.720 Republican. So kind of even, but the Democrats had at the end of the early vote, a 4% lead on

01:45:02.600 the ballots returned. The margin of victory was only 2.4%. On the right side, you'll see right

01:45:08.100 here, right now, Republicans now have an early vote lead. There's been a shift of 9%. Democrats

01:45:15.260 were 40% of the return ballots and early vote. Now, 35%. Republicans were 36% of the return vote

01:45:22.680 in 2020, right before election day. As of right now, they are 39%. Now, trends can change. We

01:45:29.200 don't literally know what's in the ballots. We're looking at registered voters. But here's the

01:45:32.920 trend. This bears out in Georgia, for example, the white and black voting data. This bears out

01:45:37.460 in North Carolina, even Virginia. There is enthusiasm for Republicans, especially Republicans,

01:45:43.320 if you look at the data that don't typically vote they didn't come out in 2022 for the midterms they

01:45:47.320 didn't even come out in 2020. republicans are getting people to the polls that don't typically

01:45:52.520 vote they're getting them earlier and the democrat turnout is suppressed and if that pattern holds

01:45:58.360 and that's a big if if that pattern holds it could be an early night you could see states

01:46:02.360 like new mexico you could see states like um virginia new hampshire uh tim maul minnesota

01:46:10.760 minnesota yep some of those states could even be in jeopardy because all you're talking about again

01:46:15.000 couple states and then our population six seven million people those who you're trying to get

01:46:20.880 out and enthuse so white put wednesday i think there's a lot of reason to think uh on election

01:46:25.740 night uh that we see a solid trump victory republican or the democrats fielded a horrific

01:46:30.500 candidate nobody ever voted for her nobody did she was not chosen in the democratic process 1.00

01:46:36.000 to be put up there and it's probably going to bite them because the wicked can't get out of

01:46:40.580 their own way the wicked proverb says they set traps we got them now we're going to bring in

01:46:45.680 kamala harris and they fall in the very trap they set they fall into it yeah i mean part of the the

01:46:50.760 trap was the whole i mean she was a dei hire she was a black woman or indian woman whatever whatever

01:46:56.940 race she you know like the former mcdollins employee whatever race serves her best given 1.00

01:47:00.860 that particular you know season and election but uh you know but she was a a woman of color 1.00

01:47:06.120 and that's why she was selected as the vp i mean she lied even in the uh the primaries uh the debate 0.99

01:47:13.060 about joe joe biden i remember seeing stephen colbert say like but she bold-faced lied and

01:47:18.540 she's like it was a debate lying is fine in a debate yeah um it's fine when you're trying to

01:47:24.340 win and yet she was still chosen how do you get to lie about joe biden and uh have like she was

01:47:31.280 pulling it like two percent in the primaries and they get selected as the vp right how in the world 1.00

01:47:36.500 because you're a woman of color right and and so they set that trap for themselves what they used

01:47:42.640 or not for themselves but for the gop by calling them racist and calling you know trump hitler and 0.98

01:47:48.340 all this kind of stuff and you you hate women you're misogynist you hate people of color you 0.88

01:47:52.220 know you're racist and all that kind of stuff and that forced them that trap forced them to have to 0.90

01:47:57.400 you know to make a selection like kamala and then with biden being you know like 170 years old 1.00

01:48:03.680 uh well now it comes down to the vp and they're stuck with an idiot i mean she is not bright 0.99

01:48:09.800 yeah they're stuck with it they made their bed and now they have to lay in it and i think they're 0.99

01:48:14.020 gonna get crushed yeah i think it's gonna be too big to rig yes i i am aware of the 2020

01:48:19.500 shenanigans and i think there will be that level of shenanigans plus more shenanigans um but i

01:48:26.500 think at the end of the day uh you're gonna have to quite literally um on a live trump yeah and

01:48:33.880 that's the only way yeah if that doesn't happen um and they tried they did but if you come for the

01:48:40.740 king that's right uh i think he's gonna miss twice yeah i think i don't think they're gonna stop him

01:48:47.080 and um and the nice thing is that uh it'll be four years of some reprieve for christians to build

01:48:54.180 and locally keep staying at work

01:48:57.220 and work towards better than Trump.

01:49:01.060 And then, Lord willing, we could get eight years advance,

01:49:04.860 who I think is better than Trump.

01:49:07.300 And then we get barren.

01:49:09.000 And then you get barren. 0.96

01:49:10.640 Well, I'm thinking, and then, like, honestly, 0.97

01:49:12.640 after four years of Trump and then eight years advance,

01:49:14.720 we actually, who knows?

01:49:16.440 Yes.

01:49:16.940 Who knows what God and his mercy might do?

01:49:18.860 You might be ready for a Dusty Devers. 1.00

01:49:20.880 Yep. 0.99

01:49:21.400 Yeah.

01:49:21.900 Never know.

01:49:23.160 We had a good question about nicotine.

01:49:24.640 We're close to the end.

01:49:25.480 Yeah, let's do it real quick.

01:49:26.920 I hear my kiddos out there.

01:49:28.380 Yep.

01:49:28.900 No, I'll make it quick.

01:49:30.940 Okay, so the question was, what about smoking a pipe?

01:49:33.740 What about nicotine?

01:49:35.220 Nicotine is great for you.

01:49:36.880 So we don't have time to get into all types of drugs.

01:49:39.080 There are drugs like heroin.

01:49:39.720 My pearls are clutched.

01:49:40.520 My pearls are clutched.

01:49:41.860 Get ready.

01:49:42.760 Heroin is disassociative, for instance.

01:49:44.600 There is a categorical difference between drugs that put you in a stupor,

01:49:47.740 disassociate, cause you to see visions,

01:49:49.440 versus drugs like caffeine and nicotine

01:49:51.700 that increase productivity.

01:49:53.160 So nicotine is a stimulant.

01:49:54.860 It doesn't put you in a disassociative state.

01:49:56.700 It doesn't dull you to the world.

01:49:58.160 It doesn't make you feel necessarily a pleasure.

01:50:00.180 It increases the rate of your central nervous system.

01:50:03.380 And it appears to have a number of great properties.

01:50:05.960 It's an appetite suppressant for one.

01:50:07.880 So if you were looking to lose weight, that is a way.

01:50:10.740 Just for the record, nicotine,

01:50:11.780 it's not just in tobacco plants.

01:50:12.860 It's in tomatoes, potatoes, eggplants, cauliflower.

01:50:15.980 They're nightshade vegetables.

01:50:17.460 It's a naturally occurring substance the same way.

01:50:19.440 caffeine is the same way vitamins are the same way all these different things so you have nicotine

01:50:24.260 it's a stimulant suppresses appetite um it has a number of cool properties that are almost being

01:50:29.580 explored starting to be explored now there was someone who mentioned uh nicotine for brain cancer

01:50:34.020 treatment i've sat down and watched a whole episode and there is promise that it's antiviral

01:50:38.780 properties which it also has could be potentially advantageous for cancer just like ivermectin

01:50:45.000 it's antiviral nicotine also increases testosterone now some of it is a little bit

01:50:50.520 did the chicken come first to the eggs you take guys that smoke and it's like were they the bad

01:50:53.640 boy right high t anyway and so they take up this habit i've looked at some of the studies but we

01:50:58.440 do see a positive increase of nicotine consumption and testosterone levels in men now there's different

01:51:06.280 forms of consuming nicotine here's the one thing to be aware of your uh your marblo reds are yes

01:51:11.800 from a tobacco leaf and that thing is caked in pesticides i'm sorry to say and with cigarettes

01:51:17.000 at the very least you're also inhaling it so you're bringing into your lungs with cigars you're not

01:51:21.240 doing that with dip or with uh like zin pouches you're not so be aware of the method that you're

01:51:25.880 taking cigarettes probably being the worst but something that maybe you uh just it's your lip or

01:51:32.040 even patches are a very very safe way to get it in those would be more safe think about the source

01:51:37.560 of it source of your cigars source of your cigarettes if you're smoking them mb east oh

01:51:41.640 yeah her husband for uh for his um brain cancer yes uses a patch uh ivermectin is being explored

01:51:48.360 for that too and how we're being told so terrible don't do it well turns out it's antiviral turns

01:51:53.640 out it could have some great uh anti-cancer properties right um this country is built in

01:51:58.200 many ways on nicotine it was built on tobacco tobacco it like it it helps men be productive

01:52:04.120 i don't think things like this they occur naturally they're in our plants they're not

01:52:08.680 destructive to us i don't think god put them there to be ignored and abstain from now they're not

01:52:13.480 there to be addicted to they're not there to worship but they are categorically different

01:52:18.760 from why haska where you i don't know commune with interdimensional being the machine elves

01:52:24.600 yep it's in this category of drugs i think you really do commune with demons i mean you look at

01:52:29.800 all these pagan societies whether you know the mayans the aztecs you know or you know native

01:52:34.700 indians you know and uh indigenous peoples here in america um before we arrived and you know when

01:52:39.840 we first arrived um they they weren't just doing these recreational it was all attached to worship

01:52:45.780 they were doing it to commune with spirits and ancestors and gods and all all these kinds of

01:52:50.800 things uh one last thing just just because i i want to be you know responsible for um morally

01:52:56.420 responsible for our audience and our listeners and make sure we're being careful um i could just

01:53:01.900 i could just see somebody saying well uh nicotine it grows naturally and you know and so does

01:53:05.740 marijuana right and i i think that there's a difference between i think marijuana is given

01:53:09.860 to us by god uh for many purposes and uses uh but i don't think for recreational um so i i think

01:53:15.760 there are many purposes and uses uh people you know like for pain for instance um people say

01:53:20.860 well you know you should you know uh but it it could be addictive or you're you're not going to

01:53:25.580 be sober-minded if you know all the painkillers like yeah like you're going to be sober-minded

01:53:30.120 on vicodin you know like like you know like so every painkiller is going to do that there's a

01:53:34.900 proverb that says in a man's grief to give him hard strong strong wine strong drink yep um in

01:53:41.000 in a certain moment and there's a certain man and the bible also says that it's uh strong drink is

01:53:45.600 not for kings right um you know so there's there is a certain um seasons and there's also a certain

01:53:51.420 role uh that um it's like no this person needs to be particularly sober-minded um and we all want to

01:53:58.400 be you know a kingdom of priests we want to be little kings um and we want to be sober-minded

01:54:04.340 because that actually is a moral biblical command so all that being said i would put that in a

01:54:08.320 separate category marijuana but i it is natural i don't think that it should be demonized um but i

01:54:13.080 also um i think that you know like making marijuana legal for instance uh so that we can tax it you

01:54:18.740 know and it's going to be good for the you know the gdp like um i mean you just you just look at

01:54:23.540 uh the trajectory we've been on the country since making those kinds of decisions and it's been 0.82

01:54:27.440 nothing but we're going to talk about gut instinct it smells bad so i don't want it yeah i don't need

01:54:32.820 to complicate it you can get into that but like it smells bad it dirties up the place yep you feel

01:54:37.220 weird when you do it why do we need this this shouldn't be legal so i think there are many

01:54:41.180 medical purposes that really are legitimate and i think it's um a gift from god praise god but i

01:54:46.440 don't think um we're not advocating for a recreational use of marijuana in the way that

01:54:52.040 we would say that um recreational use of nicotine i think is permissible yep um in the same way that

01:54:57.560 you know a lot of you drink coffee in the morning with caffeine i think also uh nicotine use on a

01:55:02.480 regular basis everything needs to be done um in moderation everything with self-control um but

01:55:08.180 nicotine uh doesn't make you uh lack sober-mindedness um if anything it makes you lean in

01:55:15.320 you become even more focused and um all the stats that i've read tucker carlson talked about it

01:55:20.640 also you know but it's like uh you'll become uh more manly and uh more ambitious and more focused

01:55:26.440 and and debatably more healthy and debatably more healthy yep yeah so all right well thank you guys

01:55:32.140 for tuning in um keep us in your prayers i'm sure uh you've probably seen a little bit of drama

01:55:37.500 on X. I don't really have any statement about that. I'm trying to do some stuff behind the

01:55:43.080 scenes, talking to the other party involved and some of the guys who retweeted and publicly

01:55:53.260 supported the other party involved and said, hey, you should check out this video from so-and-so

01:56:01.360 is it's really great well um that you know what i can say is um a lot of those people are realizing

01:56:08.560 that it actually wasn't really great and that there were um some categorical not just like oh

01:56:13.160 i would have said it differently or that wasn't exactly clear or that was a slight exaggeration

01:56:17.040 but categorical falsehoods um in other words uh downright lies and um and by god's grace uh i have

01:56:27.000 um the evidence and i've shared it with um um many people and um i would like to not go public with

01:56:34.060 it um i'll just say that i would like to not go public with it um out of charity for brothers in

01:56:39.280 christ and because uh the goal is not to destroy but the goal is actually unity i'd like it to be

01:56:44.240 done i'd like to be friends i really would so uh but i do have um uh the meeting the audio recording

01:56:51.440 of the meeting over two hours where many things that you guys have heard this man say, the opposite

01:56:59.260 is recorded. And so I've shared that with some big names and behind the scenes that have taken

01:57:05.760 his side in the matter. And they've all kind of pulled back some publicly. You might see some

01:57:10.540 tweets being deleted or retractions being offered. And I'm going to try to go to the source. That's

01:57:17.080 the counsel I've gotten from these guys. I want to honor them. I'm going to try to go to the source.

01:57:20.060 i'm praying right now uh pray for wisdom i want to determine a mediator that i can trust

01:57:26.080 because i feel like i've been ganged up on a little bit and so it's hard to find someone

01:57:31.940 in the reformed world to trust um i think i might have sometimes i feel like i might have more hope

01:57:39.100 at a democrat rally the reformed world might be the most vicious community that i've personally

01:57:44.880 ever experienced in my life um to put it nicely it is a vicious community sometimes it really

01:57:52.520 breaks my heart um because it dishonors christ it's so sad like i look at mark driscoll and i

01:57:59.320 know that driscoll had problems but um yeah do you think mark driscoll is missing the reformed

01:58:03.800 community that dude is like like a tweety bird flying free you know just like he's probably has

01:58:11.800 so much peace so much joy so much uh of of that weight lifted off of his chest uh the rest of

01:58:21.040 the christian world doesn't behave the way that we do you guys you need to know that you need to

01:58:25.120 know that the rest of the christian world does not behave the way that we do um it's very unique

01:58:29.920 to the reformed world um just the uh the viciousness so anyways um no official comment

01:58:36.380 the in-house viciousness the in-house let's let's be let's be vicious towards the orcs 0.99

01:58:43.800 yes we want to chop off the genitals of kids and murder babies sure i'm i thought that's you know 0.99

01:58:48.500 i thought that was what we were doing um but yeah so anyways no official comment for today i know 0.99

01:58:53.080 that you know we have um i say it because we have more people watching than normal and so um no

01:58:58.200 official comment today and i'd like to just i'd like to move past it so i'm going to try to handle

01:59:03.080 it behind the scenes and um pray that god would give me wisdom for a mediator that is trustworthy

01:59:09.480 somebody in the reformed world um that

01:59:18.440 i don't know that um they could could hear my position a guy like me or a guy like andrew

01:59:24.360 risker or a guy like steven wolf or a guy like ogden and um and not uh clutch to his uh zionist

01:59:33.380 pearls and begin to scream um so like it's not a lot of guys like that to be honest it's it's

01:59:39.080 slim pickings um so pray that god would provide a guy um prefer preferably an older man uh who's

01:59:46.140 mature and preferably a minister a pastor uh that um has some measure of relationship with

01:59:52.120 the other party so that there's trust there and with me so there's trust on both sides and that

01:59:57.760 the gospel of jesus christ would win the day and that they're actually we had the ministry

02:00:03.440 of reconciliation that we've been given according to the apostle paul uh would be carried out and

02:00:09.040 that there would be real reconciliation i am uh ready to forgive but one day we'll have to do a

02:00:14.280 whole thing on forgiveness but um um forgiveness what about if my brother sins against me seven

02:00:20.900 times. So I tell you, not just seven times, but 70 times, seven times, if your brother sins against

02:00:25.700 you and goes to you and repents, forgiveness has to be asked for. Biblically, it needs to be asked

02:00:32.700 for. And so that being said, there's a way of being begrudging and wanting to not forgive and

02:00:39.660 being bitter. I really don't feel that way. I feel like my forgiveness is wrapped up like a Christmas

02:00:45.060 was present under the tree.

02:00:46.540 And I can't wait for the potential of so-and-so

02:00:50.680 to walk through the front door and get to edit.

02:00:53.220 But I need him to walk through the front door.

02:00:56.000 I need him to admit, and because it was public,

02:00:58.180 I need him to publicly admit the bold-faced lies.

02:01:01.880 I appreciate that the video has been retracted.

02:01:05.080 Our video will not be retracted.

02:01:06.700 Some have asked about that because-

02:01:09.420 Yeah, you said that on Twitter.

02:01:10.380 There were two videos, and we believe that whichever

02:01:12.920 videos contained lies needed to be retracted, which means that ours stays up, and the other

02:01:18.580 one comes down, because we didn't lie. So. I'm getting intel right now. Oh, really? Wow. Okay,

02:01:35.080 I missed that. Okay, thank you. Thank you for telling me. So Nathan just informed us,

02:01:39.260 he's our tech uh technician that uh because i didn't see it because we've been live streaming

02:01:43.880 for seven hours and uh and always my fault getting started um but uh it sounds like eschatology did

02:01:51.520 like a brief kind of thing like um kind of like what we saw on covid like when um when uh francis

02:01:57.780 collins and got yeah bring it to me francis collins and guys like that you know were like

02:02:01.160 when they finally realized like oh we you know we killed a bunch of people and ruined businesses and

02:02:05.660 you know and all this kind of stuff you know they're like uh there's but there were fault on

02:02:09.220 both sides yeah like have you seen the meme where it's like they burn they burn the witches the

02:02:12.680 witches and they're tied to the stake and they're on fire um and they uh a guy comes up and says

02:02:17.760 actually they weren't witches and he says there were faults on both sides and so eschatology

02:02:23.640 matters kind of did one of those tweets earlier today that i was really disappointed by because i

02:02:28.060 i strongly respect those men i really do they're solid guys they're solid brothers uh solid theology

02:02:34.020 but also just really great character and so it was just uh like there's there are problems on

02:02:38.600 both sides when like one side explicitly right um and they know it because i gave them the evidence

02:02:44.040 um so that bummed me out but nathan thank you for catching us while we're still on the air before

02:02:48.640 concluding uh they posted a statement we want to honor eschatology matters for taking on the video

02:02:52.860 here's their new statement uh finding yourself caught in a conflict between parties who have

02:02:57.240 uh both benefited you is terrible and that's the situation we recreate we created when we

02:03:03.500 released the video regarding okay i'll say his name because they say it here uh tobias um and i

02:03:09.280 really i'm not trying to be funny or disrespect i can't pronounce his last name do you know how

02:03:13.800 to pronounce it no i don't it's yeah it's german it's it's honestly every time i've heard it i'm

02:03:19.820 like that's awesome i i love it i you know i feel like we're singing a mighty fortress is our god

02:03:24.320 you know in germ so it's a great name but i can't quite pronounce i think reiman schneider

02:03:27.860 right maybe that's it reimer schneider uh tobias and uh joel weapon and just for the record i i

02:03:34.860 love tobias i do um we regret this deeply uh our regret isn't only due to the conflict it's brought

02:03:42.000 to the body of christ but also because we didn't have all the facts uh there still may be more

02:03:46.800 information needed to resolve it fully that's probably true and hopefully we can do it behind

02:03:50.800 the scenes um we recognize that our action led to unnecessary slander and speculation against

02:03:57.260 of fellow Christian pastor, Joel Webin, and Covenant Bible Church. We repent and ask for

02:04:02.000 forgiveness. The issue and facts in this situation are complex and private in nature. We hope for

02:04:07.480 peace and resolution between the parties involved. For our part, we've decided to step back from

02:04:12.600 this conversation. I get it. Praying that everyone involved can continue to bless the body of Christ.

02:04:19.360 Really appreciate that. Eschatology Matters. You guys are good dudes. Godly, godly brothers. Tim

02:04:24.860 bush on um is uh a friend and i and he's an older man maybe he'd be uh willing to he could be a good

02:04:31.360 mediator because um he hasn't taken the side of like steven wolf is a heretic and joel levin has

02:04:37.140 gone to the dark side uh but he's also tim bush on is very favorable to uh the the theonomic side

02:04:43.740 and loves moscow and loves you know like he's he's you know um so maybe tim would be a good

02:04:50.080 idea as a third-party mediator but um but tim is a part of eschatology matters right and uh the

02:04:56.300 highest caliber that dude like william wolf and andrew isker just spoke at his conference fantastic

02:05:01.040 conference um he puts out great music by the way great music and tim bushong i would trust with my

02:05:07.540 life the dude is just he's high caliber so uh try guys hear my voice um try not to take it out on

02:05:15.660 eschatology matters they just i think it was a bad bad move just to debut a brand new show with

02:05:21.520 like a a takedown piece on somebody who's who's so close you know like it'd be one thing if it's

02:05:29.580 like if the show is going to be a discernment ministry and the first thing is on kenneth

02:05:33.280 copeland you know or something he was far outside of the reformed world so that was kind of probably

02:05:37.080 not uh best strategy on their part um but aside from that they didn't they didn't really know

02:05:41.680 anything else and uh they took down the video right and here's the deal let me just brag on

02:05:46.520 them one more time i have been slandered more times than i can count no one has ever taken

02:05:53.800 down the video you think andy woodard who divorced his wife and and i i'm in the spotlight there's

02:06:00.020 like look i always knew that joel would have this this great moral failure and turns out he's an

02:06:04.640 anti-semite and a racist and everyone's just gleeful i mean they came out and drove scott

02:06:09.300 annual came out owen strand like everybody comes out everybody comes out and they're i mean they're

02:06:14.780 like they're elated it's it's ecstasy they love it they've been i mean they've been hoping for my

02:06:20.800 downfall um andy woodard was one of the first guys to make me go viral calls my wife shame

02:06:28.840 took me out of context um and andy woodard has been dismissed from ministry in disgrace

02:06:37.020 grace and he literally said of me mark my words this is an abuser the way he talks about patriarchy

02:06:43.680 and blah blah you'll see him you know fall from ministry and he literally fell had a moral failure

02:06:48.700 and is now going to ministering in the nar new apostolic reformation crew because they don't

02:06:54.240 have standards and and how much have you i mean think about it this week how much have you seen

02:07:00.580 of joel webin going viral for his deep concerning sins how much have you seen in the last month of

02:07:05.780 andy woodard going viral the guys that are trying to sound the alarm are struggling to get traction

02:07:10.940 they can't get any traction they've publiced it's it's a statement it was posted on x nobody cares

02:07:16.760 do you know why they don't care because andy woodard was on their side of the great cn wars

02:07:21.820 of 2022 because andy woodard was one of the first guys to bring to light the the very troubling and

02:07:28.400 very concerning dangers of joel levin that's right um and so it doesn't help their side

02:07:33.400 that the guy who said Joel Webin is a snake

02:07:36.740 and one day he'll be found out

02:07:38.040 turns out to be a snake and was found out.

02:07:42.000 That doesn't really, it's not really helpful.

02:07:44.300 So just things to consider.

02:07:47.260 And here's the deal.

02:07:48.460 This part of this video that we're doing right now,

02:07:51.520 how many people will watch

02:07:53.320 through the end of this episode?

02:07:54.280 How many people would see this?

02:07:56.260 Not many.

02:07:56.900 A few hundred, maybe a few thousand.

02:07:59.580 Eschatology matters, God bless them.

02:08:01.240 Here was my point.

02:08:02.220 They're the first to take it down.

02:08:03.400 And Andy Wooden never took down his video.

02:08:05.660 He loved it because it was getting him millions of views.

02:08:07.540 That clip, that was his most viral post on Twitter.

02:08:12.100 He made his ministry off of Joel Webin.

02:08:16.340 And he never took it down.

02:08:18.240 Other guys who have slandered me, they never take it down.

02:08:22.860 Eschatology Matters is the only thing that I can remember to date,

02:08:26.620 the only Christian Brothers ministry that has ever retracted something

02:08:31.680 when they realized they got it wrong wow so guys eschatology matters uh do not hold it against

02:08:39.180 them that is honorable yeah um and but i will say and this is not about eschatology matters i i honor

02:08:45.780 them uh but in general though um the lie travels halfway across the world well before the truth

02:08:52.900 before the truth can even get laced up its boots um the clips from that episode they're they're

02:08:59.440 gone yes the video was taken down but the clips are still up anybody who clipped them out they're

02:09:03.860 still up those people uh methodist ministries yep method ministries method ministries he won't take

02:09:09.540 his clip down um it's still up it's got 400 000 views the the retraction will never the retraction

02:09:16.320 might get for every thousand people for every thousand people 400 000 just on his clip much

02:09:24.180 that's the other for every thousand people who now think that um that i am a a monster anti-semite 0.53

02:09:30.220 and and flagrant racist k-dub uh wasted no time to share it um he's uh consistent consistent um

02:09:40.560 accuser of the brethren consistent oh my goodness that man um but the point is uh for every that's

02:09:49.120 400 000 just on that clip just on one one one person's account um for every thousand views

02:09:54.480 a thousand people these are real it represents real people for what every 1 000 people real

02:10:00.120 people in the world who think that i'm a monster a monster anti-semite and flagrant racist and uh

02:10:06.620 and thinks that our church is demonic and that is uh making members in our church actually worried

02:10:11.840 and thinking they should leave for every thousand people who think that the retraction will reach

02:10:16.100 one yeah that's the ratio that i've discovered for years now as i've been in this um this rodeo

02:10:22.840 um it is a one to 100 ratio um that uh one to 100 all right franklin needs some help

02:10:30.560 thank you guys for tuning in please pray and god bless

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