The NXR Podcast - THE LIVESTREAM - Trump Touts FIFTY YEAR Mortgage ｜ You’ll Own Nothing

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00:00:30.000 the united states of usury 50 years a slave even under the old covenant or old covenant

00:00:41.460 israel there was still the principle of the year of jubilee the year of jubilee was not after 50

00:00:47.760 years but it was the 50th year it was seven years times seven 49 years in which a foreigner could

00:00:57.480 be enslaved under the old covenant to the people of Israel. But in the 50th year, they would be set

00:01:05.040 free. But here in the United States of usury, not merely the foreigner, but at the behest of the

00:01:13.520 foreigner, to the detriment of the native citizen, you American, not paperwork American, but true

00:01:21.240 heritage American, you can be enslaved, not for 49 years, but for 50. The debtor is enslaved to

00:01:30.220 the one who lends, the lender. You thought you were going to get 50 million deportations. You

00:01:37.660 thought that you were going to get lower prices. You thought that maybe you might be able to afford

00:01:43.060 a home. You thought that when you voted for Donald J. Trump, you might get your country back,

00:01:49.980 not just for you but most importantly for your children instead you're not getting 50 million

00:01:56.360 deportations you're getting 50 years of usury your mortgage will be maybe 150 to 250 dollars

00:02:05.140 less in other words still completely unaffordable but you will stretch out those payments for an

00:02:13.520 extra two decades. The amount of interest that you will pay to the banks and all those who stand

00:02:20.800 behind the banking system is a difference in hundreds of thousands of dollars over the course

00:02:28.160 of half a century. We are not winning. We are not winning. I was reliably informed and I was stupid

00:02:38.060 enough to believe it, at least in part, that I would experience so much winning. I would say,

00:02:43.920 please, sir, please, Mr. President, I can't take it anymore. I can't take any more winning.

00:02:49.540 I've yet to see it. What I've seen us do thus far is rile up the hornet's nest,

00:02:57.840 actually spray them with poison, destroy political opponents who are seeking to destroy our nation.

00:03:03.580 no, not even close. Tweets, yes. Memes from the DHS, yes. Deportations en masse, as we were

00:03:13.420 promised, no. Actual arrest of treasonous political opponents who have broken the law

00:03:21.060 and journalists and media heads, no, not even close. What we have experienced is antagonizing

00:03:29.260 our political opponents. Not defeating, not sequestering, not subduing, but antagonizing

00:03:36.260 them just enough to where they're going to come back with a vengeance. Every ounce of political

00:03:42.940 will that our side clearly doesn't possess. We do not have the will to act. Our administration

00:03:51.300 does not have the political will to do what it takes to save these United States. But our enemies

00:03:59.780 do. They have proven it time and time again. If they can't win in the free marketplace of ideas,

00:04:06.340 then they'll use a gun and silence their political opponents with blood. They play for keeps. Are

00:04:15.060 they moral? No. Are they righteous? No. Are they even logical? No. But do they have the will to

00:04:24.240 win? Absolutely. And the side that merely wants to be left alone will always lose to the side

00:04:30.580 that wants to win. We have accomplished nothing. Nothing that was promised. All we have accomplished

00:04:38.260 is not defeating, but antagonizing our political opponents so that a blue tidal wave would

00:04:44.940 come and wash over us like a tsunami in the midterms, therefore effectively binding the

00:04:51.380 Trump administration to where we now have a lame duck presidency for the next two years,

00:04:57.380 and J.D. Vance is not the shoe-in that many of us think he is. Trump has one year left.

00:05:04.680 That's generous. Not even. Eight, nine, ten months effectively to do something. And as of now,

00:05:11.680 there is no hope in sight. This is where we are, and it is time to raise a righteous

00:05:19.480 ruckus. I did not vote for my children to be enslaved over the course of their

00:05:26.120 entire adult and elderly lives, to the usury, to jewelry, to centralized banks,

00:05:36.740 to Wall Street, and to politicians who continue to get fat off of the tax farm of native citizen

00:05:45.360 Americans to the benefit of foreigners who do not assimilate, who do not love our country,

00:05:52.780 and who worship idols. That's what we're talking about today. Tune in now.

00:06:06.740 we're back we're back we're back afternoon are we politically back no are we culturally back no

00:06:13.740 are we religiously spiritually back absolutely not our mortgage payments back absolutely yeah

00:06:20.280 when i say we're back i mean the show is back the show is back on that's about the only positive

00:06:27.120 white pill that i have for you here's the white pill you get to listen to us for the next hour

00:06:31.820 and a half two hours and we have something to talk about something to talk about we have something

00:06:36.640 to talk about it's not good uh government shut down allegedly just ended right it was a 60 40

00:06:42.300 vote 60 40 vote that was for cloture to actually go to the process and the final vote's going to

00:06:47.560 take place here in the next couple of hours but it looks yeah yeah looks like it's going to happen

00:06:51.240 government shutdown has ended um which in the near term it it does help to uh make sure our

00:06:59.820 economy doesn't crash and burn uh in the long term uh we are avoiding crashing and burning by

00:07:05.920 simply continuing to turn on the money printers and you know start you can't get your own pal in

00:07:12.060 there two thousand you know stimulus check so hey you get two thousand dollars 50-year mortgage for

00:07:19.540 your kids but you get two thousand dollars maybe even that we'll have to see about so no it's not

00:07:25.800 great, but we're here. We're going to talk about it. Wes, you've compiled some different data points,

00:07:30.900 things like that. What are we looking at? What's going on? I'm going to tie this back to a stat

00:07:35.560 we shared, which is incredible, just last week, which was that Trump's support among 18 to 30

00:07:40.380 year olds has cratered, I think it was plus eight in February of this year. So not February 2015.

00:07:45.720 February of this year, since his election, his support has cratered 63 points. And I don't think

00:07:52.140 it would be an exaggeration to say affording a home is probably the top, if not maybe issue two

00:07:57.840 or three, on the minds of people that are younger. This is Generation Z. Most millennials, they kind

00:08:02.300 of have the job. They have the home. They care, but it's not the thing that's top of mind for

00:08:06.240 them. But if you're under 30 years old, you're in that stage of life, you're thinking, how in the

00:08:09.960 world? Probably for most of us, honestly, it's how do you get a job? I've graduated from college.

00:08:14.000 I've got all of this debt. Oh, great. The housing markets or the work and labor market's been

00:08:18.640 destroyed for me. So that's not good. But assuming you have a job, the next thing on your mind is

00:08:22.240 how do I afford a home post-COVID when low interest rates drove a lot of people to golden

00:08:27.640 handcuffs? They're in a home, they've got a great interest rate, and they're never going to leave

00:08:31.260 it. Practically speaking at this point now, they can't leave it. They bought a home when it was

00:08:34.720 super expensive. They've got a low interest rate. It would literally be thousands of dollars more

00:08:39.100 a month if they were to try to move just down the street. So a bunch of the housing market locked

00:08:43.840 away in these golden handcuffs. And 18 to 30-year-olds, they're done. And specifically to

00:08:48.100 your point, Joel, they're done with Trump. At the end of the day, yeah, Ukraine and Israel and

00:08:53.120 foreign aid, yeah, that matters to people somewhat. There's reasons that it's important.

00:08:58.460 But practically speaking, if life is terrible at home, people are not going to vote for the

00:09:02.780 incumbent. Okay, I voted for you. My gas is still expensive. I still can't afford a home,

00:09:06.760 and I still don't have a job. Okay, maybe you support Ukraine, or maybe you don't.

00:09:10.820 Either way, I don't like you. My life sucks. And so it's on this backdrop that you have Trump

00:09:16.020 announcing actually two things this weekend for one a some type of two thousand dollar reimbursement

00:09:22.040 to the taxpayer because tariffs have been so successful we don't know what form that will be

00:09:26.920 we don't know who's eligible for it i mean it's so we must have paid off all our debt and he's

00:09:32.380 giving us the surplus right right the 36 trillion's been zeroed out so we can go to it um i guys if

00:09:39.620 this is not buying votes i don't know what is yeah midterms are coming up oh man that stimmy

00:09:43.940 is hitting right in September.

00:09:45.460 Works pretty perfect, doesn't it?

00:09:46.500 Right before early voting starts.

00:09:48.420 So you had $2,000 stimulus checks.

00:09:49.960 And then the other thing announced

00:09:51.120 that Trump floated out there

00:09:52.240 and the head of the housing department, Bill Pulte,

00:09:54.800 he confirmed they're working on it,

00:09:56.380 is a 50-year mortgage.

00:09:59.720 Now to rewind the clock a little bit,

00:10:01.560 I mean, 30-year mortgages,

00:10:03.020 they've been a staple of the West

00:10:04.340 for two, three hundred years.

00:10:06.840 No, about two to three, maybe generations.

00:10:10.560 It was the Great Depression

00:10:11.560 that really springboarded the idea

00:10:13.380 that you would actually pay for a mortgage for multiple decades on end. Prior to the 1920s,

00:10:18.600 most people just bought their homes in cash. That's objectively how it was. 100 years ago,

00:10:23.320 think about that. 100 years ago, in this land, in this state, here in Texas, in California,

00:10:28.720 wherever, people made enough money that they could walk up and say, I'm paying for my home

00:10:33.500 in cash. I have no monthly payment. I have no mortgage. I have no interest. I own this thing.

00:10:39.440 Credit cards are not a thing that we have dealt with for hundreds of years. We did a great episode

00:10:42.960 on usury, go back and watch it. Usury is immoral. Charging of excessive interest is immoral. And we

00:10:48.640 didn't used to have that in this country. What we did have sometimes was loans that were only

00:10:53.440 paid the interest. So perhaps you took a bit of a loan out. What you would have, it would be three

00:10:57.840 to 10 years for a house, three to 10 years. You'd pay the interest on the loan. And then you would

00:11:02.840 have the three, the five, the seven, the 10 years to pay the full amount of the mortgage. So say it

00:11:08.140 was a $10,000 home, you pay the mortgage for five years, and then at the end, it's expected you've

00:11:13.200 been successful enough in your endeavors. You show up to the bank, you write a check, boom,

00:11:17.360 they've got their $5,000. Same thing, you don't have a mortgage payment. That payment on the

00:11:20.960 interest that you were paying was relatively small. However, what people would do is they

00:11:25.100 would often, for one, they'd write that check at the end, or they'd refinance. So they'd do five

00:11:29.300 years of the mortgage, and they'd say, hey, I can't still make it. I'm going to need to extend

00:11:32.900 this another five years. But when the banks crashed, they didn't have the capital to put up

00:11:37.140 front. So that's where you had the creation of the FHA, the Federal Housing Administration.

00:11:41.200 You also had Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac coming in at the mid to the late 1930s. And it's in that

00:11:46.180 time that you begin to see the 15 and the 20 year and eventually the 30 year. But again,

00:11:52.060 practically speaking, that's just 80 years ago. Just 80 years ago did the idea of the 30 year

00:11:57.320 mortgage enter the public psyche. And it was actually the veterans coming back in the 1950s

00:12:01.660 and the 1960s. It became much more popular to take out that 30 year mortgage. But now that

00:12:07.080 that's entrenched. Now that that's kind of, well, all right, guess you have a mortgage payment. It's

00:12:10.740 not that bad. Ideally, it's less than 30% of your monthly take-home income. That's all right.

00:12:16.060 Well, we get to the point where that's not affordable now either. Homes have gone up,

00:12:19.400 we've covered this already, compared to median income. So the ratio of your yearly income to

00:12:24.640 the price of your home has gone up a ton. There was a time when a home would only cost twice as

00:12:28.900 much on average as you would take in a year on average. So on average, if you took in $10,000,

00:12:34.180 On average, homes are about $20,000.

00:12:36.600 Theoretically, in two years, you could pay it off if every cent went towards it.

00:12:40.220 Now that ratio is four, five, six, seven times that.

00:12:44.040 So if you make $100,000, you're now expecting to pay five times what you make annually towards a home.

00:12:50.120 And it's getting unsustainable.

00:12:51.600 And the party that's in power, while all of this is going on,

00:12:54.900 and homes are getting more and more and more unaffordable,

00:12:57.380 is a party that's going to pay for it in the midterms.

00:12:59.920 And so Trump, you know what?

00:13:01.640 Not to worry.

00:13:02.480 Don't worry.

00:13:03.020 we've got this he announced the idea of the 50-year mortgage now as you alluded to joel the 50-year

00:13:08.380 mortgage doesn't actually take your payment down that much and that's because of the sneaky little

00:13:13.200 thing the banks do called amortization uh what is that correct pronunciation amortization yep

00:13:18.200 so amortization uh if anything actually i'm gonna toss it to you antonio yeah just you front load

00:13:23.560 all the interest exactly yeah so the way that it works if you have a you know when when a loan is

00:13:28.080 amortized they are going to fix your monthly payment it's going to call it let's make it

00:13:32.180 simple numbers say it's a thousand dollars far cry from what an actual mortgage is today but

00:13:36.300 we'll say a thousand dollars and what they do is they say for 30 years and for 12 months out of

00:13:42.460 that each year you're going to pay two thousand dollars but this is what we'll do we are going to

00:13:48.120 distribute the loan the interest and principal such that your first payment $1,900 is interest

00:13:55.280 and only $100 is principal your second payment maybe that changes it shifts toward principal by

00:14:00.580 $50, so on and so forth, until toward the end of the loan, year 29, year 30, you are paying

00:14:07.060 predominantly principal on your loan. And so this is a way that banks actually can recoup

00:14:13.620 interest quicker, right? Because they still have a lien on the asset itself. So if you go belly up

00:14:20.920 in year 28, now they can seize the asset and say, this is ours, and we own the principal of the

00:14:25.800 asset. And by the way, you've already paid your interest back. And so this is a risk adjusted way

00:14:31.060 that banks have justified making you pay interest before principal. And so, you know, going back to

00:14:37.480 the 50 year loan. So what does this mean? It means that now over 50 years, 30 years of those, I'm

00:14:42.180 paying predominantly interest and not principal on the loans. Think about it. 50 year loan. So say

00:14:47.140 your parents are 60 years old. All right. We're going to buy our forever home. We're downsizing.

00:14:51.760 kids are out of the house. They're 60, and they take out a 50-year mortgage. And so you're 30,

00:14:57.080 you know, they pass away, they're with the Lord. Well, you've inherited, hopefully you've gotten

00:15:00.940 inheritance from them. You've also inherited a home and a mortgage where 80 to 90% of it

00:15:07.540 you still owe. But my parents made their payments for 30 years. They made their payments on time,

00:15:13.160 they kept up. Surely half of this, we have half of our equity in the home if it hasn't changed

00:15:18.140 in value. Nope. You spent 30 years mom and dad making monthly payments out of their retirement,

00:15:24.700 monthly payments out of their social security. And so they own a good chunk of it, right? Nope.

00:15:29.920 They own practically none of it. It's incredibly immoral. It really is. There's a tweet that I

00:15:36.040 thought was hilarious. This is from Andrew Torba. I want to read it. If we could pull it up on the

00:15:40.000 screen real quick. I see it sitting right there. He said, 10 year mortgage. What do you need a

00:15:45.400 30-year mortgage for i can't believe my own son is demanding a 50-year mortgage you'll be hearing

00:15:51.000 from my lawyer about that 100-year mortgage you still owe me that's i feel like that just about

00:15:57.860 sums it up uh some of you guys may not be familiar with the meme but those of you who live on the

00:16:02.400 internet you are fully aware uh yeah that's that's kind of what it feels like it just it's just

00:16:07.500 stretching usury debt uh slavery uh to kingdom come it just there's seems as though there is

00:16:16.100 no end uh one thing i wanted to just flesh out so i remember having this thought it was a few years

00:16:22.040 back uh you know because people would always i think of like your david platts for instance you

00:16:26.240 know like uh radical everybody in the west you know particularly in america is just so wealthy

00:16:30.680 and there are people who are starving on the other side of the world and yet we're living in luxury

00:16:34.980 you know with all these conveniences and comforts you know modern comforts and uh you know you just

00:16:40.540 you're selfish and uh and you should stop being so selfish and you should live a generous life

00:16:45.220 and that was you know basically the premise of of the book radical and and i think a lot of us i i'll

00:16:52.880 speak for myself there was a time you know i think in my teenage years when i didn't really understand

00:16:58.700 money i didn't understand the way of the world and the way that things work and especially even

00:17:03.120 And in my 20s, as a young man, as I'm starting to make a little bit of money, not much, but

00:17:07.900 some, I still kind of had that mindset of like, well, there are children in Uganda who

00:17:12.480 are starving.

00:17:13.260 You know, meanwhile, I'm over here and I have this, that, and the other.

00:17:17.260 And I think one of the mistakes that I made is I truncated the concept of wealth and how

00:17:22.880 wealth can be measured, but only into one category.

00:17:27.920 So I thought about wealth in terms of convenience and comfort.

00:17:31.080 so i thought about well we have hvac all right we have ac um you know and in that sense we are

00:17:38.980 as wealthy or wealthier than a pharaoh or a king you know in times past right i mean if you were

00:17:45.860 over an entire empire or a kingdom you might have 50 different guys on staff with you know some

00:17:53.160 some banana tree leaf or whatever and they're all taking shifts you know fanning you as you're

00:17:58.420 sitting there on your throne or as you're sleeping at night you know in order to keep you cool

00:18:02.700 right but that that required you know a team of of you know a couple dozen different people to fan

00:18:08.840 to cool for the sake of convenience and comfort the king or the pharaoh or the you know the emperor

00:18:14.120 whoever it was and then you think well we have you know television and streaming devices and all

00:18:20.280 these kinds of things and you know the king he would have had a team of maybe a thousand people

00:18:24.780 from different forms of entertainment magicians you know entertainers acrobats dancers uh that

00:18:30.500 would come in you know at at his will at his whim and fancy um to well i want to see the dancing

00:18:37.120 routine i want to see the magician routine um and and so my point is that you know the average person

00:18:43.040 did not have a cooling system the average person didn't have plumbing the average person certainly

00:18:48.200 did not have electricity these kinds of things and they didn't have you know entertainment uh that

00:18:53.240 was right there at their fingertips. You would have had to be a king. And even at that level,

00:18:58.320 that stature of being a king, the banana leaf, you know, regiment was not going to cool you the way

00:19:04.080 that an HVAC system does. And, you know, the dancing regiment was not going to be as entertainment

00:19:10.620 as, you know, sitting down and watching Braveheart, you know. So in that vein, if you're

00:19:18.000 using that metric of, again, convenience, access, comfort, pleasure, then there's a sense in which,

00:19:26.080 yeah, the average person in the West is more wealthy than kings. And that's kind of what we

00:19:32.420 were sold, I think, by Big Eva, you know, and a lot of these kind of, you know, just normie,

00:19:39.960 globalistic you know preachers over the last you know two three four decades when i think of you

00:19:48.760 know christianity here in america evangelical christianity here in america you're super

00:19:53.920 wealthy stop being so selfish live sacrificially live a more generous life and you're wealthy

00:19:59.940 because you know and they and they would just kind of assume the point right well you're wealthy

00:20:04.600 because you have a smartphone. You're wealthy because you have a car. You're wealthy because

00:20:10.400 you have air conditioning, you know, and so on and so forth. But there's another way to measure

00:20:15.760 wealth, and this is what I'm getting at. One way to measure wealth is access, convenience, comfort,

00:20:22.460 pleasure. But another pretty basic metric for measuring wealth would be this, ownership.

00:20:29.960 them. Abraham did not have HVAC. Abraham did not have television or entertainment. Certainly not

00:20:38.620 to the degree that we have today. He did not have access. You think of just the fact that you can

00:20:42.940 pull up just about anything on a device that you hold in your pocket. If somebody wanted access

00:20:50.560 to knowledge, to information, they would have to be a man of means. And even then they would have

00:20:56.480 to send out somebody, a servant or whatever, to go to some library that's hidden away in some

00:21:03.900 other town. We're in Babylon or whatever, and try to retrieve the information and bring it back to

00:21:09.320 them, write it down on a scroll or whatever it required. So from knowledge and convenience and

00:21:15.520 access and comfort and pleasure and all these different things, that's kind of just the default

00:21:20.840 that I think a lot of us have been deceived into truncating the whole concept of wealth.

00:21:27.360 But another way of measuring wealth, perhaps the most basic way of measuring wealth, is ownership.

00:21:33.480 Abraham did not have those kinds of comforts and conveniences.

00:21:37.560 But Abraham, what he did have is ownership.

00:21:41.140 He owned land.

00:21:42.880 He owned houses.

00:21:44.800 He owned livestock.

00:21:46.740 He owned resources.

00:21:48.460 And when I think of that, when I think of the average American today, you know, not necessarily, you know, the 80-year-old boomer who kind of got off easy, but the average American today under the age of 45, especially those who are in their 20s and 30s.

00:22:06.460 The reality is that they really, George Soros and all these kind of malicious and sinister people, what they have said out loud really has become true.

00:22:20.720 It really has been fulfilled.

00:22:22.900 You'll own nothing and be happy.

00:22:25.320 The only thing that they missed is it turns out a lot of people really aren't happy.

00:22:30.440 A lot of Gen Z and millennials are not happy.

00:22:34.140 They can't afford to live. And yes, they have a smartphone in their pocket. And yes, they don't

00:22:39.900 have to drive a horse and buggy. They have a motorized vehicle. And yes, they have HVAC.

00:22:45.760 But they're living in many cases in an 800, 700 square foot studio apartment. Even in that

00:22:53.980 instance, I might be a little bit generous. They don't own it. They have nothing that they can

00:22:58.960 pass down to anyone else. They don't own their car, right? They have payments on their car.

00:23:03.220 they have payments on their phone you subscribe to everything i remember seeing a video you know

00:23:07.720 a few months back there's a guy he was a comedic uh you know short little youtube video uh but he

00:23:14.340 was uh talking about how you know making a joke about how everything nowadays is a subscription

00:23:19.820 and so he was like basically answering the door and it was like his you know uber or whatever you

00:23:26.440 know grab or whatever company guy shows up with his groceries and he's like hey all right great

00:23:32.260 do you have the receipt and he said oh no no it's free and he's like free that's incredible what

00:23:37.060 what did you do to get this deal he's like well i just subscribed uh he's like to groceries what

00:23:42.460 like he's like yeah there was a great subscription on celery um you know and then and then the bit

00:23:47.580 just keeps kind of going on and on and on and he said you know i subscribed also to you know the

00:23:51.960 oxygen um you know while i was there so that i could breathe um he's like okay but but what does

00:23:58.160 the subscription costs and he's like well that's the best thing about it it's free for the first 30

00:24:02.800 days and then you know all of a sudden you have to pay and he's like well show me you know and he's

00:24:08.240 like oh my gosh i'm gonna have to start paying 900 a month you know in 29 days and he's like well

00:24:14.720 i've done it and i've been fine i subscribed to everything he's like well have you survived and

00:24:19.160 he's like well they the fine print is that if you get a referral and can subscribe someone else

00:24:24.940 then you get an extra month on your subscriptions and he's like wait what how long have you been

00:24:30.560 doing this have you subscribed me to anything else he's like actually i've subscribed you to

00:24:35.060 xyz and he goes down this list and he's like when does the subscription you know uh re-up and my

00:24:40.040 first payment you know is due he's like tomorrow at 12 p.m you know he's like how much do i owe he's

00:24:46.120 like fifteen thousand dollars he's like well what did you subscribe me to he's like the atoms the

00:24:51.740 bone marrow the whole and then you know the bit ends with like all of a sudden it turns 12 p.m

00:24:56.660 and his body just vaporizes so obviously a bit of hyperbole but not much my point is to say that's

00:25:03.300 where we are today yes you have a cooling system yes you have a vehicle yes you can watch a video

00:25:09.400 on your phone but you you are renting everything everything in your life is owned by someone else

00:25:18.400 And so if we say that wealth is comprised of comfort and convenience and access, then sure, you're really wealthy.

00:25:25.940 But if we say that wealth is comprised at least in part, some degree at all, in terms of sheer ownership,

00:25:36.120 then we here in the West, in the year of our Lord 2025, are the most impoverished people, arguably, throughout human history.

00:25:46.120 there were serfs in a feudal lord system that were much like us today did not own anything

00:25:54.160 everything is ultimately lent to them but here's the difference with them a lot of times they

00:26:00.300 worked three four months out of the year and then for the other eight nine months of the year

00:26:05.180 owning nothing they still got a nine month vacation um you you look at peasants and serfs

00:26:12.760 from four or five hundred years ago and it's like man look at that uh thatched cottage that looks

00:26:21.160 nice what's the square footage on that thing man i wish that we had that i was just looking that

00:26:26.960 lied to while you were talking and the ranges are wide i'm not going to pretend as though history is

00:26:31.940 a monolith for 500 years in every region of europe every surf worked the exact same number

00:26:36.820 of hours but different analyses of this is the 13th century and in england i'm quoting here from

00:26:42.180 an article. During the medieval era, peasants would work an average of 1,080 hours a year,

00:26:48.880 or about 20 hours a week. The number would fluctuate depending on the demands of the Lord

00:26:52.520 and the season. The reason the average medieval peasants worked less hours is because of how work

00:26:56.400 was structured during the open field system. So 20 hours a week on average, there was church

00:27:01.220 sanctioned, church mandatory days off. Sunday, for example, church holidays. When it came down to

00:27:07.340 retirement, when it came down to caring for them, all the people would come together. If

00:27:12.020 a woman was sick, all the women of the village would come together and help her. When it came

00:27:15.500 to retirement, there wasn't a true retirement, but basically they would be given tasks that were

00:27:19.120 commensurate with what they were able to do. And so you had these people working half as much,

00:27:23.960 tons of protected holidays. Hey, the Lord can't tell you to work on Sunday unless obviously it

00:27:28.040 was an emergency. Hey, he can't tell you to work on Christmas. He can't tell you to work on Easter.

00:27:31.760 So they worked less, had better protections, a better communal setup. Now, to be fair,

00:27:36.640 they didn't own the land. They worked it. But practically speaking, the labor conditions,

00:27:41.120 there's lots of guys that work in tech work in consulting work in finance it was sunday yesterday

00:27:46.100 and they were working they had no protection and that's my point is it's um you are a feudal surf

00:27:53.020 and these united states of usury you are a feudal surf the difference is uh that on average they

00:27:59.640 work 20 hours a week and on average you work 60 um the feudal surfs of the 13th century in europe

00:28:06.220 are laughing at you they uh they are looking at you and say what a peasant what a plebe he doesn't

00:28:14.280 even get sundays off he doesn't even get sundays off um that's that's where we're at so more

00:28:20.660 convenience yes more accessibility yes more um of the petty personal comforts and pleasures

00:28:29.680 yes but in terms of ownership you own just as little as a feudal serf did and work three times

00:28:38.100 the hours that's where we are yeah yeah it's also you you think one of the other elements that they

00:28:44.680 would experience a positive elements that they'd experience that you don't experience today

00:28:48.300 is enjoying the riches of the land right so you might buy a house and you might be in debt for

00:28:53.780 50 years to buy that house and now you've got a hundred square foot uh backyard and then you

00:28:59.100 better enjoy that piece of land because every other piece, every other plot of land has been

00:29:03.880 taken by someone else in the same boat as you. And so there is really no communal land. There's

00:29:08.900 no communal access to land. And so even in that sense, and just enjoying the place that you live,

00:29:15.880 that has totally been taken from people. And then I liked what you said in terms of ownership being

00:29:22.360 real wealth. And I think another sort of synonym you could use is freedom or autonomy, right? So

00:29:28.660 you could say to a slave, hey, what if I provided all of your food, your housing, your clothes,

00:29:35.960 even your entertainment, it's all provided by me, but you can't think a thought without my

00:29:40.960 permission. You would say that sounds insane, actually. Well, that's exactly what wage slavery

00:29:46.160 is. That's what it means to be in a 30-year mortgage. And you can't walk away from your job

00:29:52.020 because you won't be able to afford your mortgage. You won't be able to afford your car note or food

00:29:57.680 or any of these things so you are effectively in that situation you are a wage slave yeah i read

00:30:02.720 recently that in terms of um delinquencies on uh on loans for uh cars vehicles uh that we've

00:30:10.560 hit an all-time high since i i believe it said um i think it was 1993 um so at an all-time high in

00:30:18.120 terms of people having their cars repoed um and so you're exactly right it's like you um you are

00:30:24.160 a slave to your job because if you quit even for a couple weeks you're immediately underwater uh you

00:30:30.620 can never get your head up above the surface ever again you um you you know will will fault on your

00:30:39.440 loan for your house for your car for all these things and then they're just gone and you need

00:30:44.560 all those things to regain employment um and so yeah we're we're in bad shape and um 50 million

00:30:53.280 deportations um isn't that a joke remember when uh remember when we were excited about that

00:30:58.660 actually thought that uh that that might be possible what a joke joke's on me um we'll hit

00:31:03.920 some of the solutions but yeah we're going to talk about it the one thing i do want to emphasize

00:31:07.420 you guys have to see how literally capitalism came full term you started with a feudal system

00:31:12.400 people worked for a feudal lord worked the land that was their job you had this brief window in

00:31:17.120 the industrial revolution and modern capitalism and financial markets but it's literally to the

00:31:21.740 point again the few own everything and everybody rents it from them and what's different actually

00:31:26.680 about this one is before you would rent it from an actual person with a real name you probably

00:31:31.320 actually got to see that person right today well uh i i work part-time for uh for house chipotle

00:31:37.040 with the burrito that i finance and i have to make payments to i work part-time for house ford who i

00:31:42.300 make my car payment to i work part-time for house lennar who i make these payments to and none of

00:31:47.180 these people you've ever actually seen you have no contact with and they have no obligation to

00:31:51.560 protect you that was one of the things the lords did back then if their land was attacked if

00:31:56.040 peasants were attacked if someone was killed they had the responsibility to muster the army and say

00:32:00.900 not on my watch these people belong to me will jeff bezos protect you no no mark zuckerberg

00:32:07.360 so we have all of the downsides you own nothing you work for someone but now they're an impersonal

00:32:13.880 removed irresponsible distant owner that does nothing with you the same system with none of

00:32:20.540 the advantage and married with lifeless soulless work rather than working the land which is actually

00:32:26.020 um can can actually be nourishing to your soul right even as a surf yeah well said uh it it can't

00:32:33.820 be overemphasized enough um capitalism was supposed to free people and uh what it's done is full

00:32:40.680 circle all the way back to a feudal surf system and um i'm not you know i'm not saying that to

00:32:46.860 say that I'm entirely convinced that there's no good that has come from capitalism. I absolutely

00:32:52.500 believe historically that there has been good. And it's not to say that there aren't certain

00:32:56.860 what I believe to be universal biblical principles that are often attributed to capitalism, whether

00:33:03.000 that's correct or not, that I believe are inherently righteous and moral and good, like

00:33:09.080 private ownership. So I stand for those things. But whatever you want to call it, crony capitalism

00:33:17.840 or capitalism gone wild or whatever it is where you now have a smart fridge, not just smart phone,

00:33:24.780 smart fridge that's showing you ads on a screen on the front of your refrigerator as you're trying

00:33:30.520 to make breakfast in the morning. Whatever kind of capitalism that is, it is two things. One,

00:33:35.940 it's the capitalism we have here in the West today. And we just have to admit that. That is

00:33:41.400 our reality. And two, it's the capitalism we have. And it's a capitalism that I think is wicked and

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00:38:14.400 All right.

00:38:14.800 We're not in the complaining business here at Right Response.

00:38:17.000 We're in the solutions business.

00:38:18.620 And so we talked about the 50-year mortgage,

00:38:20.200 and Trump is doing that as a Band-Aid for the housing crisis.

00:38:22.900 Everyone under 30 is feeling the crunch.

00:38:24.820 How in the world am I ever going to afford a home?

00:38:27.280 And so he said, well, why not a 50-year mortgage?

00:38:29.520 there's actually a lot simpler solutions to this and the problem is they require will 50-year

00:38:34.860 mortgage department of housing does that people will pay they'll do it uh there was someone that

00:38:39.960 said well if people would pay a hundred dollars to finance a burrito that's their choice the problem

00:38:43.940 is when you give people the option they will they'll see a lower cost they'll see the option

00:38:47.360 to have something now and uh and pay for it later they're going to take it you can't tempt people

00:38:52.340 with tantalizing instant access with marketing and every tool in your at your disposal let me

00:38:58.580 pause for just saying that's so important because um i mean matthew henry says this uh thomas um

00:39:06.100 uh thomas watson says this like oh this is the reform position it's also the catholic position

00:39:12.200 even before that the civil magistrate is a nursing father he has a fatherly civil fatherly duty to the

00:39:18.520 citizens uh so this idea because that's kind of you know that's the the regular counter that um

00:39:25.780 that the true, you know, capitalist would always offer is they'd say, well, look like, um, the

00:39:31.360 free, you know, the market never lies. The market, you know, is, uh, will regulate all these things

00:39:36.580 and people will ultimately, they'll vote with their feet, you know, they'll vote with their

00:39:40.060 wallets. And so if people don't like something, they don't have to do it. Uh, but there actually

00:39:44.300 is a moral obligation of fathers, right? Like, so when I think of my home and my children,

00:39:49.720 I don't just leave things lying around the house that are lethal, that would endanger them or

00:39:57.140 threaten their well-being. I have young children, so with a three-year-old, I'm not going to just

00:40:02.940 leave right there on the table or the counter or whatever on the floor my sidearm. I'm not going

00:40:09.060 to do that. That's irresponsible. That's not loving. It's negligent. And so too, as civil

00:40:16.300 fathers, when you think of the civil magistrate, he actually has a moral obligation to ensure that

00:40:23.520 the country is not filled with booby traps and snares to ultimately crush his people that God

00:40:33.440 has appointed him over to steward and to cherish and to lead. So there really is a moral obligation.

00:40:40.040 So the idea of like, well, it's their choice. Yeah, there are some things that should not be

00:40:45.600 available as a choice there are choices that people make and yes they are responsible for

00:40:51.320 those choices but there are many things that the choice being present in and of itself is a moral

00:40:57.300 evil i think of even pornography so it's like right i mean it's seriously apply like many people

00:41:03.160 what i'm about to say sounds like a hyperbolic you know um example but many people have made

00:41:07.820 this argument with something like only fans or something like porn hub they'll say well people

00:41:12.480 have a choice nobody's forcing them you know they have a choice and yet we would say the christian

00:41:17.300 position is that pornography should be by legislation legally it should be banned from

00:41:23.360 these united states that is a choice that should not be available to people because there are too

00:41:29.640 many weak-willed people do they bear a certain degree of moral culpability for being weak-willed

00:41:35.900 and being willing to hand themselves over to such an immoral choice yes i'm not saying that the

00:41:40.800 people are guiltless. The people bear culpability, but so do the leaders for allowing orcs within the

00:41:48.920 city gates, for allowing booby traps and snares and poison within the land. It is perfectly

00:41:56.020 permissible and not only permissible, but I believe it's a biblical expectation that civil

00:42:01.920 rulers would say, I'm sorry, but there will be no pornography, no lewdness, no blasphemy. And the

00:42:10.480 list goes on and on and on. So yes, there's a measure of freedom, but this whole idea that

00:42:16.440 anything and everything should be freely available for anybody if they so choose,

00:42:21.780 that's not actually a biblical principle. Back to you.

00:42:24.940 Yeah, and I was just going to say, before we go to solutions, I think we've already said that this

00:42:29.220 is, I think we've already said this isn't a solution principally, and we all know that,

00:42:34.260 but just to emphatically state as well, this isn't even a solution practically. So there are a lot

00:42:39.320 of reasons this actually probably won't work. One is, and we've seen this before.

00:42:43.400 The 50-year mortgage specifically.

00:42:43.980 Yeah, the 50-year mortgage, exactly. One of the reasons is interest rates. So this is sort of

00:42:49.100 an economic theory here, but as you extend, actually for a lender, as you extend the principal

00:42:55.540 payment out, the interest rate risk increases, and they have to increase interest rates along

00:43:02.240 with that to recoup for potential foreclosures that will happen beyond the 30-year mark.

00:43:09.380 So you're actually probably going to see interest rates rise for the 50-year mortgage,

00:43:14.540 which basically might reach equilibrium and make it just as expensive as a 30-year mortgage,

00:43:19.580 even on the front end. And then the second part is, as you have people having now access to the

00:43:25.440 50-year mortgage, you're going to get an influx of willing buyers, which will also drive prices

00:43:32.220 up for homes, which then you'll see monthly payments go up as well under the 50-year schema.

00:43:38.360 So all this to say, Trump's saying, oh, we have a solution to housing affordability. Oh, so you're

00:43:43.720 making the houses cheaper? No. No. So the houses are just as expensive as they were before.

00:43:49.440 And actually more.

00:43:50.280 And more expensive because of interest.

00:43:52.020 and we're simply going to make your monthly payment at the front smaller but because of

00:43:57.860 interest rates and because of price increases because everyone can afford a mortgage all of

00:44:02.140 a sudden you have an increased supplies now your monthly payment's basically back to what it was

00:44:06.000 for for a 30-year mortgage so that's my guess is it like it would be number one negligible even

00:44:11.080 from the start if they unrolled 50-year mortgages today my bet is on a 500,000 house for instance

00:44:17.860 the 30-year mortgage would be maybe maybe 250 to 350 dollars more a month for the 30-year mortgage

00:44:27.880 so i think if they rolled it out today from the very beginning you would save 250 to 350 bucks

00:44:35.420 i think within five to ten years max maybe sooner but within five to ten years because of banks

00:44:42.060 getting wise because of the populace um all of a sudden giving in and demand increasing you know

00:44:48.480 um i think within five to ten years your 50-year mortgage would be exactly what the 30-year

00:44:53.880 mortgage had been prior but then we just go to a hundred-year mortgage and the solution is there

00:44:57.200 so you're telling me it's a solution that's immoral and not a solution yeah correct what

00:45:01.380 a great solution exactly yeah how about i give us some real solutions so in the u.s there are about

00:45:06.280 77 million single-family homes you can get that number up a little higher by going with attached

00:45:11.560 homes. So these would be a townhome, a row, three or four. We're going to go with the number of

00:45:15.680 77 million. There's tons of estimates out there as far as how many owns corporations own. And it's

00:45:21.320 not a huge amount. It's not like they own 10, 20, 30% of American single family homes. But the

00:45:26.260 estimates I saw range from about two to 4%. So single family detached homes, corporations. So

00:45:33.220 the corporation has an abstract legal entity, owns those homes, and they rent them out. It's a lot of

00:45:39.240 investment it makes a lot of money if you own these homes i mean think about it it's it's

00:45:43.620 payments on infinity yeah 50 years from now you'll still be collecting rent hire a couple maintenance

00:45:49.420 people a front office like literally these things are cash farms real quick quick boss we've got

00:45:54.840 someone named jacub j-a-k-u-b you just said hail satan ban them immediately out of here back to

00:46:04.860 All right. 77 million single family homes, 2% to 4% owned very likely by corporations. We'll go with the lower number of 2%. And then about 1%, again, this number fluctuates, owned by foreign entities, individuals that live overseas, individuals that are investing through corporations. So we'll call it about 3%. And I did the calculations, it comes out to about 2.5 million homes.

00:46:29.120 So if you take that 2% and the 1%, you've got about 2.5 million homes that are kind of up for grabs here at this point.

00:46:34.560 So they're up for grabs.

00:46:35.460 It's like they're not really owned by Americans.

00:46:38.260 They're not lived in by the people that own them.

00:46:41.060 And so then I went to Texas.

00:46:42.220 So I'm going to take this down, take it to the state level, not distributed by land, distributed by population.

00:46:47.900 So your biggest state in the United States is obviously California.

00:46:50.120 They have about 11.6% of the population.

00:46:52.940 Let's go to Texas.

00:46:53.800 Let's call it 10%.

00:46:54.800 The allocated homes, so 10% of those $2.5 million that are owned by, not Americans, owned by corporations, owned by foreigners, comes out to about 230,000 homes.

00:47:07.000 Now, it's not enough on itself to inject.

00:47:09.620 So you were to say, for example, corporations have five years to divest their single-family homes.

00:47:14.280 The tax gradation will scale up to the point where if they hold on to them, because you can't just take people's property at gunpoint.

00:47:19.680 They've made money for it, so you say, we're encouraging you to divest this.

00:47:22.520 Maybe there will be a tax break.

00:47:23.760 but by year five you will pay 100 tax equivalent to the price of this home you need to divest them

00:47:29.440 so you have a gradually scale it up and you inject over these next five years 230 000 homes

00:47:34.720 into the texas housing market now in and of itself that's actually not enough it moves prices i looked

00:47:40.300 up real quick is that for the foreigners or that's just the corporation owned homes that's both of

00:47:45.460 them together so homes owned by foreigners and what was the percentage on the homes owned by

00:47:49.640 foreigners you said two to four probably about one percent there's some estimates that are higher

00:47:54.060 so we're going with like five call it five um i'm actually going lower with three percent okay two

00:47:59.720 percent on corporations one percent on foreigners okay so i'm being generous guys so it's three to

00:48:04.020 five and you're going with a low number and this is just the homes we'll get to the people demanding

00:48:07.300 them because you have supply and you have demand yeah so you inject that into it you probably get

00:48:12.860 a improvement of at most about four to five percent in home prices so a decline in home

00:48:19.000 prices. So that does help. Let's say we took out 40 million people from the United States and went

00:48:24.760 proportional to Texas and it ended up being about 5 million. Now only about 15 percent. 5 million for

00:48:30.020 Texas. 5 million for Texas. So proportionally Texas is about 10 percent of the United States.

00:48:34.320 We're talking 50 million people that don't belong here. 10 percent of those residing in Texas because

00:48:38.040 Texas is the second biggest. So you're taking out about 5 million people. Now in a given year

00:48:43.020 5 million of any population about 15 percent are actually looking to buy. So we're not pretending

00:48:48.100 as though there's 5 million people i'm trying to be fair here 5 million people every year in texas

00:48:52.600 they don't belong here they're illegal immigrants they're on h1b visas and they're buying homes

00:48:57.160 let's just go with 15 i think that's fair because you think there's families there's children there's

00:49:03.120 you know and not everybody's looking for yeah children so 15 of 5 million for the state of

00:49:07.440 texas exactly all based on the rough back of the back of the envelope math 230 000 homes more

00:49:12.940 available 5 million people 15 of them buyers out no other mitigating effects in the 200 000 that's

00:49:19.900 that's for the whole nation no that's just for texas 230 000 homes wow owned by okay and probably

00:49:26.120 for texas it's higher to be honest so 200 plus homes available now for texas and five percent

00:49:32.120 of five million now is out so we're saying 750 000 right um in terms of those who would be

00:49:37.820 competing to buy homes so you've just gotten rid of 750 000 people who are competitors in terms of

00:49:45.300 the demand but the supply you just increased by 230 000 increased supply decreased demand big time

00:49:52.200 i've heard these terms before supply demand when you increase supply and decrease demand you get

00:49:58.980 50 year mortgages wait at the high end the estimate so if there was a severe housing

00:50:04.920 recessions with calculations like price elasticity and all that here's the takeaway lots of numbers

00:50:09.360 big point a 40 to 80 correction home prices totally feasible in the state of texas well how

00:50:16.300 can we make homes affordable ban foreign ownership ban corporate ownership take five million people

00:50:21.860 out literally it's not complicated it's not hard it's not complex i obviously the math itself

00:50:28.960 there's a lot of mitigating factors but hey maybe it's just a 35 correction it's not even a severe

00:50:34.620 correction just a 35 correction at home prices you just made home ownership affordable for

00:50:40.420 millions more people yeah here in texas and which people the native citizens americans the people

00:50:46.640 not for millionaires the people that you actually are obligated to defend as a civil magistrate

00:50:53.280 yeah it's i've said it before i'll say it again i feel like i feel like the christian life and i

00:50:59.620 also feel like um the life of an elected official whether it's you know living for christ as a

00:51:05.180 christian or whether it's being a faithful civil magistrate i think the concept applies in both

00:51:10.520 arenas and the concept is this it's not complicated but it is hard not complicated but it is hard and

00:51:17.880 you know the illustration that a lot of people have used and i use is it's like chopping wood

00:51:21.980 chopping wood is not rocket science right you don't have to have 150 iq you don't have to be

00:51:27.120 phd um you know chopping wood is simple but it's hard simple not complex but hard not easy so you

00:51:37.360 can figure it out but you're gonna sweat you're gonna have some blisters you're probably you

00:51:41.600 know gonna be a little bit uncomfortable and i feel like that's that's what it's likened to

00:51:46.080 when we think of political and economic solutions for these united states it's really not that

00:51:51.940 complicated um you know someone has once said no it's really not that complicated right tony's

00:51:58.340 about to come in and say well actually what do you think of that no i think that's that's that's

00:52:03.160 a no-brainer yeah i mean that's like really just in the last 10 years or so that's become a problem

00:52:09.220 that's that's completely reversible i think if you go back beyond 10 years then you're talking

00:52:14.420 about other things that are very practical as well and achievable which is property tax which

00:52:19.180 is just wholly unbiblical. The idea that even after you've paid your house off, you're still

00:52:24.320 extracting wealth from citizens living on the land that they've rightfully purchased. The other is

00:52:29.360 red tape with respect to building and zoning laws and those sorts of things, which is just laid on

00:52:34.240 thick and makes it really hard for American companies to build homes for Americans. And then

00:52:39.480 the other thing, which people don't talk about a lot but is no surprise, is we talk about supply

00:52:45.220 We talk about free markets. Lending mortgages is not a free market. It is quintessentially price

00:52:54.380 fixing. With respect to Fannie Freddie, you have the Fed Funds interest rate, which fixes interest

00:53:01.720 rates for all banks. You could ask this question and say, okay, if I'm a bank, how do I make money

00:53:08.340 if I'm a mortgage lender? I make money by lending people who are purchasing homes money.

00:53:14.520 How do I compete?

00:53:15.760 Well, I suppose I compete on interest rates.

00:53:18.660 So you would think naturally in supply and demand, free market equilibriums, that banks

00:53:23.720 would be competing with one another to provide lower interest rates to people, to compel

00:53:28.180 them to use them as the bank and not the other bank.

00:53:31.240 But this is the reality of it.

00:53:33.220 It's all fixed.

00:53:34.400 Banks have benchmark interest rates that they all use.

00:53:37.560 And so the one out, you would say, OK, maybe free market capitalism works here.

00:53:42.580 banks are going to compete on interest rates we're going to have the pick of the litter i could go

00:53:46.720 with wells i could go with usaa i could go with all these banks and i'm going to give the i'm

00:53:52.020 going to go with the one that uh gives me the lowest interest rate it's like oh i go check uh

00:53:56.680 they all give me the same interest rate 6.5 6.5 6.5 right so so it there is really is so much

00:54:03.620 working against uh the american who wants to purchase a home today so much of it is is obviously

00:54:10.820 what we've talked about it's uh the flood of immigration and the increasing supply uh that's

00:54:16.940 consequent of that it's the um but then again it's also the things i just mentioned the property

00:54:22.560 taxes and the government getting involved and fixing uh interest rates and so so i i'm all for

00:54:28.220 it i think these things are really obvious solutions i think they're biblically grounded

00:54:31.720 solutions um and it's going to take uh like you said at the outset of the episode it's going to

00:54:36.540 take people raising a ruckus christians getting smart on the ethics of lending to begin with but

00:54:42.220 then also some of these practical solutions to push for both locally and federally well hey at

00:54:47.820 least corporations like blackrock at least they can't make campaign donations to democrats and

00:54:53.400 republicans so they would never vote for legislation like this which would stop them from investing in

00:54:58.420 single-family homes like they wouldn't have in like the 2024 election donated 1.6 million to

00:55:03.720 Democrats, $900,000 to Republicans. They wouldn't do that. So if a vote like that ever came up,

00:55:09.460 they would get the call not to vote for it. Oh, wait, they're all bought and paid for by big

00:55:13.820 corporations that have every interest in keeping this legal. It's fixed all the way down. It's

00:55:18.920 kind of funny how like on donations, it's like, well, BlackRock, ESG, Woke Capital, I bet they

00:55:23.760 exclusively donate to Democrats. Oh, wait, they donate to both. National Association of Realtors

00:55:28.340 donates to both. APAC donates to both. They're two sides of the same coin. Both sides hate you

00:55:35.460 for the most part. Agreed. Well said. Anything else on this segment? We've got a lot of super

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01:00:53.880 then add the promo code WRITE15 today. All right, time for our super chats. This is one that was

01:01:02.360 actually emailed to us. It's somebody who gave a Mondo super chat of $1,000, but something with

01:01:09.820 the system, got the wires crossed, and we didn't get it. So we want to make sure to do this.

01:01:15.500 I think it was some point last week that he sent this in. So he followed up with an email. We

01:01:20.400 promised that we would get to it. Kevin Murray is the individual, and he wrote the following.

01:01:24.980 What are the right application scenarios of the principle of turning the other cheek? We see in

01:01:31.960 Matthew 5, verse 39. And what are its limitations? I know that you've made the distinction between

01:01:38.560 public and private enemies before, but if I defend the right to self-defense, for example,

01:01:45.280 where is my justification when someone comes back and says to turn the other cheek? That seems to

01:01:51.460 be a private enemy. Yes? Yes, I understand what you're getting at. So when it comes to public

01:01:58.880 enemies, just war theory is a thing, and it's a biblically defensible principle. So yes, you are

01:02:05.040 allowed to have public enemies a nation can have enemies and those can be people who at a private

01:02:10.440 level might actually be friends there have sadly this isn't something that we should be happy about

01:02:15.240 but sadly there have been there have been civil wars in the west that was largely christian on

01:02:22.380 both sides of the aisle you know we've had that as our own country you know the american civil war

01:02:29.520 We've had the European Civil War 80 years ago, thinking of World War II, where you had different Western nations that were all Christian, and yet they were fighting each other.

01:02:40.160 And at a private level, if, you know, one English man and one German man, who were both followers of the Lord Jesus Christ, encountered each other outside of wartime, then they should treat one another as kin.

01:02:54.540 They should treat one another as distant cousins.

01:02:57.420 They should treat one another also predominantly as brothers in Christ.

01:03:02.000 You could have someone in your home and exercise hospitality and be charitable toward them.

01:03:08.400 But under the conditions of national war, then all of a sudden the psychology shifts.

01:03:16.300 It changes and it becomes permissible.

01:03:19.260 Assuming that the conditions for just war have been reached,

01:03:24.020 it becomes permissible to fight another man who's even a christian man even uh distantly kin it

01:03:31.740 actually becomes permissible to fight him so that's kind of the public enemy public dynamic

01:03:36.620 whereas privately you would be friends but if you're talking about private scenarios where

01:03:41.180 um an individual who's not a public enemy he doesn't belong to another nation your two nations

01:03:46.120 are not currently at war anything like that he's not necessarily a political enemy it's not

01:03:50.500 Democrats versus conservatives or something like that. It's just somebody who you encounter on the

01:03:58.240 street, and he holds you up at gunpoint and tries to harm you or to rob you or this, that, and the

01:04:03.640 other. Are you allowed to defend yourself? Absolutely. Absolutely. That's not what was

01:04:08.740 going on in Matthew 5, verse 39. So just war theory, public enemies, the Bible has a framework

01:04:16.420 for that. And then at a private level, self-defense for life altercating, you know,

01:04:24.340 altercations, life-threatening situations. The Bible also has a defense for that. Even Christ

01:04:30.900 himself said to, you know, if you don't have a sword, to sell your tunic and buy one. The

01:04:37.180 disciple said, we have two swords. And he says, that's enough. But he doesn't respond by saying,

01:04:41.900 oh, you know what, you should sell those two swords and buy tunics. That's the opposite of

01:04:48.220 what Jesus actually says. Jesus, he defends and affirms the principle of self-defense. So turning

01:04:56.760 the other cheek is not a commandment prescribed by Christ that commands suicide. It doesn't command,

01:05:04.600 hey, somebody is threatening you or your family and your lives or your livelihood that you should

01:05:10.900 just roll over and die. In the context where Jesus is saying this, you're talking about Jewish people

01:05:17.840 at a time and in a place where they are occupied. They are occupied by a political party that has

01:05:26.760 conquered their nation as a fulfillment to scripture because of Israel's unbelief and

01:05:34.080 stiff-necked hard-heartedness, and so they're under occupied territory, they're under foreign

01:05:40.400 rule, and they have an obligation in that situation to honor the king. Peter's epistles

01:05:47.960 talk about this, honor the king, even if the king isn't particularly honorable, and he's not talking

01:05:53.360 about a Israelite king, he's not talking about King David or King Josiah, he's talking about

01:05:59.020 a Roman emperor underneath their jurisdiction, underneath their conquest, because they had

01:06:06.240 been defeated. So there's a lot of different dynamics going on. One, like I kind of briefly

01:06:10.920 hinted at, is just the fact that this was, at this time, a fulfillment of what was prophesied

01:06:17.580 regarding Israel and it being conquered by foreign nations because of their sin.

01:06:23.740 So Jesus, in many ways, is really just tipping his hat to the prophets and the providence

01:06:29.920 of God, God's discipline over the nation of Israel. He's saying, yes, submit to the rod

01:06:36.440 when it's exercised on your behind. Rome was functioning as a rod of discipline over Israel

01:06:45.220 for Israel's rebellion and sin. And so Jesus is saying, no, you don't get to just throw off the

01:06:51.640 rod. You're under God's sovereign discipline because of your sin. And you must submit to

01:06:57.380 that discipline. And the instrument that he's using happens to be a foreign nation. You may

01:07:01.420 not like it, but this is God's instrument because of your sin. And so you are subjugated to this.

01:07:07.520 So there's a lot of different dynamics. I know, Wesley, you had some things that you wanted to

01:07:10.500 share. Yeah, there's some fascinating context because there's three commands here, and it

01:07:13.980 deals with personal insult, private property, and military coercion. And those are all preempted

01:07:19.040 in Matthew 5, verse 39, with a little phrase that is, do not resist evil. And it sounds kind of

01:07:25.020 weird. Do not resist evil. Translated legally and militarily, what it kind of means is to literally

01:07:30.440 meet force with force. So Jesus gives three examples. So he says to you, you have heard it

01:07:34.260 said, an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth. But I say unto you, do not resist evil. Now, of course,

01:07:38.820 we make war with evil. We hate that which is wicked. But in this context, Jesus is saying,

01:07:42.840 listen, you take a personal injury. Don't meet force with force. So literally in this one, and I

01:07:48.260 know they're talking about the broad application. It was a sign of disrespect to backhand someone.

01:07:53.340 So if I was a slave, I would do this. I would use the backhand. To actually meet someone like this

01:07:58.540 was a sign of equals. That's how equals fought, with the open hand. So if you backhanded someone

01:08:03.680 and they turned their other cheek, what you would have to do, if you wish to slap them again,

01:08:08.160 was to hit them open-handedly, to see you as an equal. They wouldn't be able to continue to treat

01:08:12.620 you with contempt. When it says, for example, if someone compels you to go a mile, go with him too.

01:08:18.580 Roman soldiers had the legal right in their occupation of Judea and the surrounding areas

01:08:21.780 to compel civilians to take their gear and travel with it a mile.

01:08:26.380 They legally could do that, and you'd be in trouble if you didn't do it.

01:08:28.820 Jesus says, no, no, go with him further.

01:08:30.720 And in doing so, you're not actively resisting him.

01:08:33.280 You go this mile.

01:08:34.200 Oh, no, I'm not going to.

01:08:35.360 I'll fight you right here.

01:08:36.800 You pick it up.

01:08:37.480 You carry it.

01:08:38.360 Oh, no, no, no.

01:08:39.160 I'm happy to do this.

01:08:40.060 I'll keep going.

01:08:40.800 And soldiers could actually get in trouble for compelling them to do

01:08:43.520 more than what they were legally allowed to do.

01:08:45.600 So in some ways, you take back the power from him.

01:08:48.260 You're waging smart resistance.

01:08:50.480 Oh, it's not a problem.

01:08:51.880 And you've actually disarmed evil without having to escalate it to force.

01:08:55.240 So whether it be personal insult, whether it be property if someone takes your cloak,

01:08:58.940 or whether it be going a mile, Jesus is saying, listen, straight up, blow for blow, resisting

01:09:03.760 of evil, that actually doesn't work very well.

01:09:06.580 Be smart, be shrewd, be wise, and take it on the chin and have a smile on your face.

01:09:12.820 Don't sit there and be like, I can't believe he hit me on the cheek.

01:09:17.100 turn to the other also and make him treat you as an equal so there's lots of applications in there

01:09:22.300 but that is certainly one of them uh don't sit there and go tit for tat with evil but uh roman

01:09:27.200 says elsewhere keep coals of fire and said no problem i got this pack for five miles if you

01:09:31.760 need me to no no you can put it down now please please put it down jesus says that's a great way

01:09:36.240 to resist evil as well yeah that's great good thoughts all right next super chat is from 10th

01:09:42.120 generation american so a r that's great sons of the american revolution sounds like our guy

01:09:49.180 i like it uh two dollars super chat we appreciate that he said um straw to gold children lost

01:09:56.500 if we don't say his name uh straw to gold children lost if we don't say his name do you know what

01:10:03.120 he's talking about i don't if i had to guess he's talking about hitler yeah but i don't know the

01:10:08.980 context we might not be i don't want to okay yeah maybe maybe not all right uh next super chat this

01:10:13.640 dude rocks he gives five dollars we appreciate that he said um if the american or canadian

01:10:20.440 government hates its native population and wants a foreign one why do they think that a foreign

01:10:26.960 homogenous uh india india china i believe or china or whatever pakistan won't turn on them

01:10:36.200 Well, I don't think they're thinking that far ahead.

01:10:39.100 I mean, like, honestly, what I would say is part of the problem is that we're ruled by foreigners already.

01:10:45.680 We're ruled by women.

01:10:47.100 Isaiah talks about this, you know, being ruled by women, being ruled by foreigners, that it is a curse.

01:10:52.020 So, you know, America is under the curse of God.

01:10:55.000 God bless America.

01:10:56.760 No, God is cursing America because America has been in utter rebellion towards God.

01:11:02.500 So, one, we're ruled by foreigners.

01:11:05.960 Well, it makes sense that foreigners who rule over us would not care about us

01:11:10.340 and would just be seeking to exploit America as a tax farm for their nations back home.

01:11:15.060 That makes perfect sense.

01:11:16.180 It's wicked, it's malicious, but it's at least logical.

01:11:20.460 Women, when it comes to women ruling over us,

01:11:23.480 the fact of the matter is that the civil body is simply not the role,

01:11:30.060 it's not the place where God has called women to engage in. They're not fit for it. The woman

01:11:39.020 is called to be a helpmate of her husband. She is not called to rule over men or to fill

01:11:45.820 civil male headship type positions. Women are more inclined towards empathy. They're more inclined

01:11:54.180 towards being nurturing. They're more inclined towards, you know, seeing the foreigner or seeing

01:11:58.860 the criminal for that matter and thinking oh if only he had a better mom you know oh if only he

01:12:03.720 had you know a 14th try you know he just needs another chance um you know a lighter sentence a

01:12:10.560 little bit more grace a little bit more compassion and the reality is that that sentiment that

01:12:16.020 womanly feminine domestic sentiment that is hardwired into a woman no matter what three

01:12:22.100 piece you know pantsuit she might be wearing no matter how boss babe she thinks she is um the

01:12:27.480 apple ultimately doesn't fall that far from the tree. She is a woman. God designed her a certain

01:12:31.640 way. And that sentiment is natural to women. And that sentiment is an incredible virtue

01:12:36.420 and gift when exercised in the proper context, like a home, like with children. A woman being

01:12:43.240 nurturing towards her own children in her home is a wonderful thing. A woman being nurturing

01:12:48.120 towards criminals as a Supreme Court justice, looking at you, Ketanji Brown Jackson, or a woman

01:12:54.620 being, you know, nurturing when it comes to foreigners and an invasion of our country,

01:13:01.240 well, then that's a terrible thing, right? It's a good sentiment in the wrong place.

01:13:06.740 So what's going on right now? Well, I say the foreigners were under God's curse. We're ruled

01:13:11.820 by foreigners and by women. The foreigners, they're doing exactly what you would expect.

01:13:16.340 They're serving their people at the cost of ours, right? It really is. We've been conquered. We are

01:13:21.980 a conquered country. Number two, the women, it's not necessarily malicious, but they're just not

01:13:27.380 fit for the role. And men have just not had the will and the courage to tell them to go home.

01:13:34.080 We say it quite often here on this channel, women in positions of political leadership,

01:13:40.520 please go home. Go home. You are in the wrong place. You shouldn't be there. But then there's

01:13:46.140 one final component, right? Because this doesn't happen if it's just foreigners and women, because

01:13:51.660 there was a time where it was predominantly native men, native citizens who were male.

01:13:56.900 So how did we get to being ruled by foreigners and women? What about, you know, once upon a time

01:14:01.920 before we got there when it was native citizens, not foreigners, and qualified men and not women?

01:14:09.260 Well, I think there's, I call it the Hezekiah factor. Hezekiah was told by the prophet

01:14:15.680 that certain calamities would happen in the land of Israel,

01:14:21.340 but they would happen after his time, after he was dead.

01:14:26.760 And he responded by saying, well, hot dang, that's good news.

01:14:31.260 That's great.

01:14:32.320 Like he was actually ecstatic.

01:14:34.580 He was exuberant about that.

01:14:36.560 It's like, wait a second.

01:14:38.220 You literally have just received a word, infallible word from the Lord

01:14:42.720 through his mouthpiece, the prophet, that effectively, for all intents and purposes,

01:14:47.360 says that your own posterity, your children, or at least your grandchildren, are going to be

01:14:53.320 decimated. And you're happy? Yes. Hezekiah, I always think of Hezekiah as the first boomer.

01:15:01.700 I mean, he really embodied the boomer spirit. But my point is, now we have an entire generation

01:15:11.240 of hezekiahs an entire generation of hezekiahs that um i i think they really thought like well

01:15:19.620 wait a second you're saying i could squeeze out a little bit more profit but you're saying i could

01:15:24.420 get a little cheaper labor you're saying that i could get um a little higher 401k and i could

01:15:31.720 you know get a little bit of this and a little bit of that um i think that's what happened i think

01:15:37.040 that the spirit of Hezekiah ruled the roost when it came to the boomer generation. I think many of

01:15:45.660 them were ignorant and just stupid, but many of them I think actually did know, and they didn't

01:15:51.640 care. They knew that they were ultimately signing on to a mortgage, back to the 50-year mortgage,

01:15:57.960 but they were signing on to a mortgage that they would not themselves have to pay, that would be

01:16:02.860 passed down to their children and to their grandchildren that somebody else would have

01:16:07.120 to fit the bill but it would make them more prosperous greatly exponentially more process

01:16:13.940 in the course of their lifetime that they would get to experience peace and someone else would

01:16:19.040 have to experience calamity and i think i think that that's why we got here so the question you

01:16:23.860 know again being um you know it seems like our governments hate its own native population

01:16:29.220 and want to replace it with a foreign one why do you think that they would do that don't they know

01:16:33.900 that a homogenous foreign population like if you import half of india you know to these united

01:16:39.420 states don't they know that that population would eventually turn on them so long way of saying this

01:16:44.000 actually that imported foreign population won't turn on them it'll turn on their children it won't

01:16:54.340 have time to turn on nancy pelosi nancy pelosi is 174 years old guys you have to keep that in

01:17:00.660 mind i mean every single time she walks out into congress or something they literally have to knock

01:17:06.420 on her her coffin and pull her out of a crypt um i mean think about that like it's and it's not

01:17:13.900 like just one or two guys like we're literally watching videos every week of mitch mcconnell

01:17:17.880 falling over like you know hemorrhaging blood you know like we literally just got looks like a spring

01:17:23.200 chicken he's only 70 my goodness we just we literally just got done with the auto pin presidency

01:17:28.600 with a man who was in the white house who literally had dementia like pretty much his

01:17:33.300 entire term it was literally like weekend at bernie's but in the white house you know and

01:17:38.160 people people just pretended like it was acceptable yeah like it was normal the media

01:17:42.340 was covering it up so like i'm not being hyperbolic when i say um you have three kinds

01:17:48.480 of leaders in this country. You have Hezekiah boomers that are getting rich and know that

01:17:54.700 the foreigners they're importing will turn against them. But the them in this case means

01:18:01.200 their children and grandchildren. It's not actually them because they're all 174 years old and they

01:18:06.900 have about two weeks left before they're dead. And they know that. Mitch McConnell could be dead by

01:18:11.200 the end of this week. Nancy Pelosi could be dead by the end of this week, right? Joe Biden might

01:18:16.060 already be dead, and we just haven't heard it announced yet. So my point is, you have three

01:18:21.480 types of leaders. Foreigners. Well, why would our leaders do this to us and prefer foreigners? Well,

01:18:26.560 because a lot of our leaders already are foreigners. Ilhan Omar is a foreigner. Zoran

01:18:31.960 is a foreigner. Vivek is a foreigner. They're foreigners. So the foreigners, that makes sense.

01:18:37.220 They're going to serve their people with their natural affections and not us. We're the ones

01:18:42.220 who chose to open the gates and let them in. The women, okay, the women, different than the

01:18:46.240 foreigners, they actually do have natural affections with native citizenry here in the

01:18:51.100 United States, but they have a female sentiment that is a wonderful thing in the proper context

01:18:56.160 at home. It's not a wonderful thing for the one who bears the sword, namely the civil magistrate.

01:19:01.120 And then the last one, well, how did you get all the women in? Who let the women in? Who let the

01:19:04.640 foreigners in? The Hezekiahs. The Hezekiahs did it. The boomers. The boomer men who knew they

01:19:11.000 could make a quick buck, have piece, piece for the next 20 years of their life that was already

01:19:16.160 almost over to begin with, and that someone else would have to pay the bill. I think that's how

01:19:21.800 we got here. So to answer the question, aren't they worried that it'll turn on them? No, they

01:19:25.980 are not. The women don't realize it. The women are overcome by suicidal empathy and actually

01:19:31.460 think the foreigners are just down on their luck. So they're actually just ignorant and don't know.

01:19:35.880 The foreigners know that the foreigners won't turn on them. They're just opening the gates to

01:19:39.040 let in more of their own orcs and then the hezekiah boomers they know that they will turn on us but

01:19:43.600 it'll be after they're good dead and buried and have gone on their you know 17th cruise yeah that's

01:19:49.140 where we are and and it's like uh you know the undercurrent of a lot of the things that we talk

01:19:53.300 about is i think the reality and the recognition that repentance is actually hard it is the easiest

01:20:01.340 the short the easiest thing to do the short-term expediency once you've sinned is to sin again

01:20:07.160 actually yeah so i've lied now i've been caught in a lie double down lie again that's the expediency

01:20:13.980 oh i cheated on my wife lie i'm so so that that's what happens a lot with with um our what's

01:20:21.260 happened a lot with our country and politics and is the politicians trying to solve a problem

01:20:25.340 um the easiest way which actually is to continue to sin in the same direction

01:20:31.420 and just change it that's right you know change it slightly so uh repentance is hard you know

01:20:36.420 even going back to the discussion around uh you know housing prices it's like i own a house 40

01:20:41.880 cut in housing prices is not good for me and people will feel that but that's what real

01:20:47.060 repentance looks like once you've deported millions and millions of illegal immigrants

01:20:52.320 and immigrants um and uh and that's what we're talking about here it's just it's a short-term

01:20:57.480 expediency into sin after short-term expediency into sin right because repentance is costly

01:21:02.780 yeah sin long term always costs more uh but the repentance um the cost of repentance is less than

01:21:11.480 the cost of sin right that's why it's it's better um it honors the lord and there is a reward in

01:21:17.820 being righteous obedient and repenting but there's still a cost attached to that so the cost of

01:21:21.780 repentance is a lesser cost than the cost of sin but but the difference the reason why people

01:21:27.260 continue to double down on their sin is because although sin has the greater cost uh the cost of

01:21:32.380 sin can be furloughed. It can be pushed back. Whereas the cost of repentance, it's a lighter

01:21:39.020 cost, lesser cost than the cost of sin, but it's an upfront cost. It's immediate cost. The moment

01:21:45.040 you repent, you immediately feel the weight. You immediately feel the consequences. The moment you

01:21:50.580 come clean, the moment you confess, the moment you turn is the very moment that you immediately feel

01:21:57.500 the cost. So repentance is a lesser cost than the cost of sin, but it's a more immediate cost

01:22:03.000 than the cost of sin, and that's why people will postpone repentance. All right, next.

01:22:08.820 All right. Julian Stevenson sent $5. Thanks, Julian. I genuinely feel betrayed. All I want

01:22:14.820 to do is to be able to own land to raise my children, and the fear and the admonition of

01:22:19.300 the Lord, is that too much to ask? Yeah. We were betrayed, and we were sold out. Think about that.

01:22:25.800 100 years ago these mortgages didn't exist people bought their homes and the homes were a little

01:22:30.700 smaller i couldn't recognize these were not 3 500 square feet mcmansions uh but yeah it was

01:22:36.140 completely doable you could find a great gal uh who was a virgin who loved the lord keeper of home

01:22:41.080 you could find a home that was affordable great piece of land in a safer town it was doable and

01:22:47.120 um i think it's worth acknowledging we can't pretend as though every generation has had it

01:22:51.800 hard no actually they haven't had it this hard yep there are some unique challenges that we are

01:22:57.720 facing right now younger generations of americans that were not faced previously in american history

01:23:03.920 there were other challenges challenges of sickness disease bitter conditions of weather these kinds

01:23:09.960 of so we're not saying oh you know what it was really easy to settle america you know and like

01:23:14.960 come in in the 1600s uh nope that was hard in its own right but we can say that the challenges that

01:23:21.000 we're facing today are unique, at least in American history. I'm not saying they're unique

01:23:25.440 for every people in every place throughout all of human history, but these are unique challenges.

01:23:30.480 Like I can't own a home. To have as many people as we do currently in the younger generations

01:23:37.960 here in America who cannot afford a home, that is a unique challenge in our nation's history.

01:23:44.380 Next one. This dude rocks. He gave us $10. We appreciate that. He said, Ben Shapiro is telling

01:23:49.360 americans that they need to move away from their homeland instead of saving it that's an evil thing

01:23:57.420 to say evil messaging for uh the right wing well ben shapiro is not right wing but we'll continue

01:24:03.240 he's either a fool or he's just intentionally empowering nick fuentes i don't know what do

01:24:09.560 you guys think yeah ben shapiro made these comments in relation to new york basically if

01:24:13.540 you can't afford to live in new york that's right don't live there oh oh why didn't i think of that

01:24:18.480 yeah just leave generations three generations my family lived here yeah can't afford it

01:24:22.540 just gotta leave just give it up yeah no yeah i did see that i now i know what he's referencing

01:24:27.840 um yeah i think i you know i i don't think he's trying to empower nick fontes i definitely don't

01:24:36.560 think that's the case um i think he's scared to death of nick fontes i saw something uh the other

01:24:41.760 day that in the last i think one or two weeks that ben shapiro lost 20 000 subscribers on youtube

01:24:47.540 so um his influence is waning rapidly uh because the the dividing lines um are are shifting it's

01:24:56.660 shifting from conservative and liberal you know that's what it's been for quite a while for several

01:25:02.960 decades and now it's it really is the framing is being set uh to where it's america first or not

01:25:10.480 right america first or israel first or ukraine first or whatever it's usually israel you know

01:25:16.880 but there might be a couple other nations attached, but Israel will be, you know, top of

01:25:20.060 the list. So that's, it's changing from just, I'm a conservative, I'm a liberal, you know,

01:25:24.700 I'm a Republican, I'm a Democrat. And it really is shifting to where the new ascendant right,

01:25:30.200 whatever you want to call it, the dissident right, the new right, the new right, right wing of

01:25:36.760 political and cultural discourse is being quintessentially defined by who is America

01:25:43.780 first, unapologetically, without the fine print, without the caveats, America first. And as that's

01:25:53.600 becoming the new frame for who is right wing, that puts Shapiro squarely outside of the frame

01:26:00.980 and reveals Shapiro for the liberal that he's really always been. It's just a lot more visible

01:26:07.820 now. So the fact that, you know, Shapiro would give that kind of advice, like, hey,

01:26:12.680 things are expensive or things are hard well the way to fix it is is just to leave um yeah well

01:26:19.220 you know what sometimes you do have to leave i've i've said that um sometimes you do have to leave

01:26:23.800 uh so i i don't i don't want to criticize shapiro there's plenty to criticize i don't want to

01:26:30.520 criticize him for saying hey you you if you want to be conservative if you want to be a single

01:26:36.760 income family if you want to have children if you want to own land uh living in manhattan might not

01:26:41.340 be the best bet i get that i have to take your book right off the coffee table here very slowly

01:26:46.560 i literally i wrote a book on that um so that is true um i think what i would say though is just

01:26:53.740 um whatever you're saying in in that vein uh you also need to be spending time saying it's wicked

01:27:00.900 and wrong that uh that this city or this place or this state or whatever it is

01:27:06.640 is being shaped in such a way, economically, culturally, politically, by wicked people in

01:27:13.300 such a way that people who are third, fourth, fifth, tenth generation descendants living there

01:27:22.260 have to leave. That is a great, great evil, and it needs to be named. Now, I don't really listen

01:27:28.380 to Ben Shapiro, so maybe he is saying that. I personally, if I had to bet, I would say

01:27:32.320 probably not um i'm not sure so that's all i have to say all right next alfred the base sent 999

01:27:40.060 he said we live in satan's little season revelation 20 i think there's something to

01:27:45.100 i love this season as an as a thought experiment yeah idea i think it's certainly worth uh

01:27:50.200 conversation i um i'm not sold on it um so i you know i would still be of the persuasion that uh

01:27:57.060 that we're in, instead of a little season, Satan's little season, that we're in a big dip.

01:28:05.260 Could you explain just kind of what he's kind of saying there with Revelation 20,

01:28:08.260 what he's kind of getting at?

01:28:09.100 Yeah, that Satan would be released at the very end for a short while.

01:28:13.920 So it's kind of like the view.

01:28:16.060 And a lot of them actually do have kind of like a somewhat of a post-millennial.

01:28:19.860 They won't fall in that scheme, but they actually do think that things got better and better.

01:28:24.480 they would look at like christ had his millennial yeah they would say the millennial so so they

01:28:29.260 wouldn't be like um um pre-millennial you know guys they would say no christ returns after the

01:28:35.900 millennium um a millennial reign a thousand year reign of christ and they would point to

01:28:41.100 um the last two thousand years and say it happened um it happened i mean we had literally we had

01:28:48.180 king alfred in in around a thousand a.d you know about a thousand years ago and king alfred um all

01:28:57.720 the way you know charlemagne all these all the way up to where we are now and what you had was

01:29:02.340 uh the full christianization of the west and out of the west missionaries sent to every corner of

01:29:10.060 the world the gospel spread uh the the little bit of leaven worked through the whole batch of dough

01:29:16.160 the mustard seed grown into a great mustard, a great tree. And now, Revelation chapter 20,

01:29:24.840 that there's a short season where Satan is, you know, he was bound. Jesus bound the strong man

01:29:30.700 so that he could no longer deceive the nations. You had Christ's millennial reign. And then at

01:29:34.980 the very end, before Christ's actual return, that there's a temporary releasing of Satan for like

01:29:40.680 one final test and purification of the church and that we're in that season now so this is my point

01:29:47.420 is i i appreciate i think it's a good thought experiment um i'm totally open to that uh that

01:29:53.560 conversation i think it's a conversation worth having i like it because it's it's not you know

01:29:58.180 left behind series you know it's not pre-millennial pre-trib you know um it's it's not uh the kind of

01:30:04.760 brain dead eschatological take that says like you know things have always just gotten worse and

01:30:10.580 worse. Like, how do you even defend that? You can't even read one history book and say that

01:30:15.600 things from the time of Christ have always gotten worse and worse and worse. Like, how would you

01:30:20.920 even defend? Things have gotten better. Lifespans have gotten longer. There's way more Christians

01:30:26.280 on the planet today than there were at the time of Christ. Disciples multiplied. Churches were

01:30:31.220 planted. A great innovation in medicine and this and that and the other. People lifted out of

01:30:38.040 abject poverty and hunger. I mean, there have objectively been improvements in the world for

01:30:43.820 the last 2,000 years. However, a lot of that has halted and now started to recess in really just

01:30:51.780 the last century. Lifespans in the West actually starting to tick back down. IQ in the West

01:30:57.600 starting to tick back down. Nutrition, not so nutritious anymore. When you think of a church

01:31:05.980 attendance. Now, there's a little bit of hope in the last couple of years, but for the last few

01:31:09.800 decades, that was ticking back down. So historically, things getting better and better

01:31:16.000 and better, but then a recession, a somewhat short, all things considered, in light of the

01:31:23.260 past 2,000 years, a short recession, historically, that bears out. Biblically, I'm not, personally,

01:31:32.880 it's not my position um but i but i don't think it's heresy i see how you get there i can i can

01:31:38.840 read i can read revelation 20 i i can see it so um if that's your eschological position i think

01:31:45.120 that's perfectly reasonable it's perfect it's certainly orthodox it's it's not heretical and

01:31:50.700 i would say it puts you light years above any disby premillennial guy it beats the hell out

01:31:58.120 of premillennial zionism um as far as i know that the little season you know crew uh doesn't

01:32:04.980 hold to a rapture they're not you know you know uh how lindsey's late great planet earth so i i

01:32:11.500 think it's perfectly plausible i personally think that um no man knows the day or the hour but if i

01:32:17.560 were to guess um i think that there's more christianization of not just the west but the

01:32:23.020 world yet to come, and that we will enter an even greater season than anything we've seen

01:32:29.500 in history. Greater numbers of conversions, genuine conversions, greater innovation,

01:32:34.780 the nations no longer knowing war, beating their swords into plowshares. So world peace

01:32:40.780 being accomplished. The youth dies at 100. Just so you know, I'm not just pulling out of my butt.

01:32:45.420 I'm thinking of Isaiah, I believe it's chapter 65. So the youth dies at 100. So that implies

01:32:50.040 greatly elongated lifespans so I you know no no more no more death in infancy so I take that to

01:32:59.860 mean not only medical advancements but also the full abolishing of abortion and I think of you

01:33:07.580 know prior generations when Christendom was at its high watermark thus far thinking of the you know

01:33:13.340 the 16th century 17th century even 18th century you wouldn't have had abortion certainly not like

01:33:19.320 we have it today, but you did still have a lot of death with infancy. You still had because of

01:33:24.760 just simply sickness and miscarriages. I look at Isaiah 65 and notice this isn't heaven. This

01:33:32.760 isn't the life to come. This isn't after Christ's return because then nobody dies at all. So you

01:33:37.000 still have death. The youth dies at 100. So you still have death, but no more people dying in

01:33:43.140 infancy. So that would mean you've medically been able to cure certain ailments, but you also

01:33:50.100 morally have been able to abolish abortion. I don't think we've seen both of those things

01:33:54.040 simultaneously. I think we've seen a more moral Christian West in centuries past, but without the

01:34:00.820 medical innovations, advancements to where you still had not abortion, infant deaths, but you

01:34:05.720 still had just sickness and infant deaths. And then we had some of the advancements, but then we

01:34:10.200 had the moral collapse and so now you have voluntary slaughtering your own children in the

01:34:14.620 womb so i i look at you know that's not the only verse but i look at isaiah 65 and and i'm hinging

01:34:21.000 you know something on that and so for me i i can't get on board uh with satan's little season

01:34:26.680 but i will say of the eschatological positions that uh that i've been privy to um that's i think

01:34:33.340 that's one of the best and i you know if that's your position uh you don't have my agreement but

01:34:37.720 you have my respect fair enough yeah go ahead antonio yep uh killer pancake sent ten dollars

01:34:44.820 and says uh missed the q a episode why do you think guys like james white are so hostile to

01:34:50.380 you guys and ogden burns me out because they had huge influence on my journey into reform theology

01:34:57.020 i don't know what do you guys think any thoughts

01:35:00.200 antonio you have any thoughts yeah i well i will first i'll go on record and say this is true for

01:35:06.420 me as well. Many of my friends as well, in the sense that James White has been incredibly

01:35:12.520 influential, has had a lot of great things to say. As a scholar, I think particularly,

01:35:17.220 we've appreciated his study of history, the many books that he's written, his debates in particular,

01:35:23.240 I think, with atheists and Catholics. I know he's got a big Catholic, a Protestant, anti-Catholic

01:35:29.920 sort of ministry. Yeah, I think a lot of it, I explain by just the recognition that

01:35:39.000 when you fight your entire life to see to some end, when you see things, the landscape change

01:35:47.300 away from you, that's a frustrating experience, I think, for any person to say, hey, wait,

01:35:53.360 you're you're the conversation shifting um and uh i want us to stay on this topic and i've worked

01:35:59.460 so hard for us to stay on this topic in this direction so i think that i think that just

01:36:04.060 perhaps and this is just me speculating here but on a on a personal level i think that might

01:36:08.060 explain some of the hostility um that's come out is is that that frustration um but i also just

01:36:14.600 think they're just genuine disagreements too it's not it's not simply something you chalk up to

01:36:18.880 um sort of his own sort of interpersonal conflict or personal conflict i think there's just genuine

01:36:25.060 disagreements and when you have someone who's strong-headed and says no i i have the right

01:36:29.340 position they're going to push back pretty hard um and then obviously that the the little piece

01:36:35.620 that these people are actually from formerly from my camp right formerly from uh my field of

01:36:42.480 influence for them to be disagreeing with me i'm sure uh grinds a little bit harder than you know

01:36:49.620 people you expected to be your enemy right yeah west any thoughts summed it up well yeah i think

01:36:56.200 so all right next one is from deacon saint john he gave 50 and he said i found a church for sale

01:37:03.020 in peoria um is that how you say it peoria i'm not from the midwest i don't know okay right

01:37:09.240 Peoria, Illinois, I am not a pastor and do not know how to do a church plant.

01:37:16.600 I could also make it a single-family home or an Airbnb or a gym, etc.

01:37:23.520 It is 10,000 square feet and $278,000.

01:37:29.340 What would you do to keep it from becoming a mosque?

01:37:33.720 Good question.

01:37:34.060 my brother in christ we just did a whole episode 50 year mortgage no that's a that's a great

01:37:42.580 question i love the impulse too to say like if we don't buy up these churches as they die out as

01:37:48.940 they're abandoned they become mosques they get taken over by unitarians universalists um i mean

01:37:55.420 that's an incredible deal i don't know what the building looks like i don't know how old it is i

01:37:58.580 don't know what shape it's in but i mean 278 thousand dollars the price is right i'll tell

01:38:03.020 that yeah that's pretty amazing 10 000 square feet um i'm very familiar with that size that's

01:38:08.020 a great size uh building you could 10 000 square feet if you had like you know bathrooms a foyer

01:38:12.520 a little bit of auxiliary space a couple classrooms that still leaves about 5 000 about half

01:38:17.120 building 5 000 square feet for a sanctuary 5 000 square feet for sanctuary with a stage and you

01:38:22.760 know different things like that basically allows for anywhere from four to five hundred people

01:38:26.620 so that's like it's not nothing that's a sizable church um so to me i mean some of the things that

01:38:32.660 I would be running through is just not even so much like, well, who's going to pastor? Could I

01:38:37.520 pastor it? You know, could that person pastor it? First thing I would be thinking about, pastor is

01:38:41.800 a lot easier to move. There's guys who want to be pastors. They're just looking for an opportunity.

01:38:47.060 The pastor is a piece that you can deliver. You can transport the pastor. What you can't

01:38:54.860 transport is all the people. So to me, when I think of, you know, places that, you know, where

01:39:00.520 a church maybe should be planted the first thing i'm thinking is not uh the building and not the

01:39:06.580 pastor but the people i'm thinking like are there you know in this town or this area larger area

01:39:13.680 within a 30 minute drive are there at least 10 families that are like-minded uh that agree with

01:39:20.080 me uh at least generally agree with me and um who would would commit and be a part of a church um

01:39:28.620 if we formed one so that that would be kind of for me the first question if you're thinking about

01:39:33.220 buying the church and keeping it a church is do you have the people who would make up the initial

01:39:38.280 congregation i think about 10 families is probably what i would be hoping for um if you don't have

01:39:43.960 that then yeah i mean getting a guy you know come out there and be the pastor you know be the pastor

01:39:49.720 of what you know you don't have a church so i mean looking at the families um if not though if you

01:39:54.480 still just feel like it's a good investment and you want to look at buying it and turning it into

01:39:59.000 something else simply so that it doesn't become a mosque, I think that that's honorable too. And

01:40:04.480 just make sure that, you know, like as much as we don't want it to be turned into a mosque, make

01:40:09.380 sure that it's not a money pit. Make sure that it's an actual, you know, decent investment and

01:40:13.640 that you're not going to hurt your family and lose money on it. Yeah, I would consider trying

01:40:18.860 to keep it a church. That'd be my first choice. But with that, the way that I would answer that

01:40:23.880 question is looking outside of the building and looking at the surrounding area, the people. Do I

01:40:29.100 have a core group of people who would be the congregation that would fill this church and pay

01:40:34.140 that pastor's salary, you know, or at least part-time as he's getting started? If you don't

01:40:38.940 have that, but you still want to buy it, then I would just kind of let, you know, let the church

01:40:45.840 ambition fall to the wayside and think, you know, what's the next best thing that I can do with it

01:40:50.780 for the glory of God.

01:40:52.580 You can take it on yourself to be an ambassador

01:40:54.460 to local churches in the area.

01:40:55.940 There's church groups that run financing.

01:40:58.400 278K is not a lot of money to finance.

01:41:00.440 I mean, practically the mortgage,

01:41:03.220 I don't even think $3,000.

01:41:05.400 You can see, is there a church around here

01:41:06.740 with 100 people, like you said, 10 families?

01:41:09.100 They're big families, but 100 people,

01:41:11.360 they're faithful, maybe not perfect,

01:41:12.960 they're faithful, that could afford $3,000 a month

01:41:15.700 for a church building and serve as a middleman.

01:41:18.540 Hey, I've got this church, I know where it is,

01:41:20.780 I think this is a great neighborhood.

01:41:22.240 It saved this out of the other.

01:41:24.440 Could the pastor meet me?

01:41:25.260 Let's take a look at it.

01:41:26.040 Do you think this would be something you could do?

01:41:27.220 I just have a heart for this.

01:41:28.760 I'm not buying it.

01:41:29.420 I'm not giving money towards it.

01:41:30.560 I might not even be a member.

01:41:31.960 I want to let you know

01:41:32.840 because you're a good, faithful congregation in the area.

01:41:35.240 You're meeting in a school.

01:41:36.300 You're meeting in a restaurant.

01:41:37.300 You're meeting in a whatever.

01:41:39.100 Yep, yep.

01:41:40.500 All right.

01:41:41.580 Parks Brown IV.

01:41:43.400 He gave us $5.

01:41:44.340 We appreciate that.

01:41:45.020 He said,

01:41:46.080 As we approach our king's return

01:41:48.000 and the enemy gains ground,

01:41:50.180 what verses do you use in your daily walk slash ministry

01:41:54.260 to combat them physically in others?

01:42:01.080 Okay, I don't understand that last part.

01:42:03.400 What verses do you use in your daily walk slash ministry

01:42:06.280 to combat them physically?

01:42:09.160 Who's them?

01:42:09.880 The enemy.

01:42:10.720 So combat the enemy physically in others.

01:42:14.600 I think we'll just take the verse part of the question.

01:42:16.540 Okay, let's take the first part.

01:42:17.640 Yeah, I just don't understand that last part.

01:42:18.660 I don't understand it either.

01:42:19.460 no offense to parks brown the fourth uh writing is hard you know we can't it's not for everyone

01:42:24.540 it's not for me honestly i've got an 80 page book sitting on the table so um you know but

01:42:29.140 i don't understand the last part but we will take the first part as we approach uh christ's return

01:42:34.620 and the enemy gains ground let's just say um what do you do in your daily walk not to black pill or

01:42:40.220 to you know to stay vigilant or to always be watchful to not compromise let's just maybe try

01:42:45.460 answer that question any thoughts what verses specifically okay what verses um well i mean

01:42:51.940 honestly like some of the ones that i already shared um like thinking of isaiah 65 but there

01:42:56.420 are others as well um but you know one of the ways that i try to encourage myself is by panning out

01:43:02.980 like when things look bleak in the micro i try to pan out and look at the macro you know like uh

01:43:09.540 when i feel lost because of the trees i try to you know be seated with him in heavenly places

01:43:15.300 and get the aerial view, you know, the 30,000 foot view and see the forest, you know, and

01:43:20.000 remember that Christ wins, that Christ is king and he's not just ruling and reigning

01:43:28.060 in the 17th dimension in some ethereal, you know, Gnostic, spiritually exclusive kind

01:43:34.800 of way, but all authority on heaven and on earth has been given to him and so I try to

01:43:40.920 pan out and look back through history. And remember that Christians really have won before.

01:43:49.680 We're not talking about something that's biblically somehow forbidden, that the church

01:43:55.660 would ever be victorious. There's nothing in the Bible that says that the church can't gain real

01:44:00.560 victory in human history. And when we look at not just scripture, but when we look at history,

01:44:06.760 we know that the church has experienced real victory so panning out looking at history

01:44:11.240 and then looking at verses in the bible that talk about the victory of christ and not just

01:44:17.680 the victory of christ despite a weak shriveled losing church but the victory of christ progressively

01:44:24.000 gradually through his church that the church is the battering ram of christ so it's not just that

01:44:29.400 christ will win for his church but that christ will win through his church and so looking at

01:44:35.080 some of those verses. The kingdom of God, to what shall I compare it? It is like a net that is cast

01:44:40.280 into the sea and brings up fish of every kind. And the fish are then sorted. The kingdom of God,

01:44:45.480 what shall I compare it to? It is like a wheat field in which an enemy in the middle of the

01:44:49.000 night, he did go in and sow bad seeds. So the tares grew up among the wheat. But at the end of

01:44:53.880 the day, as B.B. Warfield and Charles Spurgeon and others said, at the end of the day, there may be a

01:44:58.880 lot of tares that are in that field. But at the end of the day, it is still a wheat field. It is

01:45:04.200 not a tare field. It's a wheat field. And that's not just talking about the church or the visible

01:45:07.920 church and the fact that there will be some apostates among her. But the field is likened

01:45:13.640 to the world. The kingdom of heaven, the net cast into the sea, the sea is likened to the world.

01:45:19.480 Or the mustard seed or the leaven and the batch of dough. All of these different parables that

01:45:26.160 Jesus gives us to describe the kingdom of heaven. One of the common denominators that I see in

01:45:30.780 reading them, is that the kingdom of heaven is potent. The kingdom of heaven is totalizing.

01:45:37.640 The kingdom of heaven is something that starts small, grows slowly, but eventually becomes

01:45:44.180 significant. Starts small, grows slowly, and eventually becomes significant. And so one of

01:45:50.260 the ways that I keep from being discouraged, I keep from blackpilling, is I look back in history

01:45:55.500 and i know that we've won before and then i look forward through scripture and believe that we win

01:46:02.760 again and i even though it feels like when you're we forget not just our fallenness that that we're

01:46:08.820 sinners and prone towards a lack of faith a lack of belief we're prone towards despair because of

01:46:15.020 our fallenness but we forget the other side of the coin is not just that we're fallen but that

01:46:20.500 we're finite. It's not just that we're sinful, but we're creaturely. We're finite. What is man

01:46:26.380 that you should be mindful of him? He is like a vapor, right? There in the morning, but gone

01:46:32.340 like a dew or a mist, gone by afternoon. We forget how small and how finite we actually are. And so

01:46:39.360 for us, you know, it's like if you're listening right now and you're 40 years old, you've only

01:46:44.120 seen the world for 40 years. That's all you've known is 40 years. In the last 40 years, there's

01:46:49.720 no debate. Things have gotten worse. No question whatsoever. But that's 40 years. That's not

01:46:57.220 the final verdict. That's not the headline of the story. It's like you're reading a book,

01:47:03.820 and so far you've only read one paragraph, and yet you think you know what the whole book is

01:47:10.100 about, and you think that you can already somehow guess the ending. There's a hubris attached to

01:47:16.200 that. I think there's an arrogance. And so for me, it's really helpful, you know, as I'm living

01:47:20.560 my one paragraph of this great novel that the Lord's writing in his providence, it's helpful

01:47:26.160 for me to pan out and read the prior chapters by looking at history and looking at church history

01:47:31.780 and the great victories that we have won by the grace of God, and then reading scripture and what

01:47:37.040 it speaks to about the totalizing, significant, potent, efficacious effect of the kingdom of

01:47:44.020 heaven on the world not just the church but on the world and i look at that and i see all right

01:47:49.820 this page of the story is a bummer this particular page is really bumming me out but i look back at

01:47:58.200 the previous three chapters and boy man um what we've got we've got some serious um fighting power

01:48:07.180 and then i'm looking forward through the eyes of scripture and the potency and significance and

01:48:12.380 power of the kingdom of heaven and i'm pretty sure we win this thing and so for me that's that's

01:48:18.160 super helpful and it allows for me to be able to say look i'm i'm just one piece of the puzzle and

01:48:23.760 if i'm like frontline infantry in a particular moment where the battle is raging the fiercest

01:48:29.640 and where the enemy is starting at least temporarily to get the upper hand what can i do with my brief

01:48:36.260 life to secure that the next wave of infantry or the next leg of the race, the next portion of the

01:48:43.020 war, that my team ultimately wins. I might lose in a glorious battle, but my children and

01:48:50.100 grandchildren will win in a totalizing war. I believe that. I might lose and go out in a

01:48:58.380 glorious battle, but my children and grandchildren will win in a totalizing victorious war. And

01:49:05.860 And so any verse in the Bible that speaks to the potency and victory of Christ

01:49:14.100 in history, not just at the very end, not just saved by the bell,

01:49:19.280 but gradual, tangible, progressive victory of Christ here on earth.

01:49:27.900 King of kings, ruler of nations.

01:49:30.900 Psalm 2, right?

01:49:31.880 The rulers of the world, he holds them in derision.

01:49:34.020 He who sits in the heavens, he laughs. Man, I think you have to be immersed in those kinds

01:49:41.620 of scriptures on a daily basis to keep your sanity. And then I think you have to be a good

01:49:46.080 student of history to know that we've won before. And when you know that your team has been capable

01:49:51.540 of winning before, it gives you a sense of hope to know if we've done it before, then by God,

01:49:57.120 we'll have our home again. If we've done it before, then by God's grace, we can do it again.

01:50:02.680 so that's me and Tony anything you want to say yeah I would I think that's great I think you

01:50:08.360 know I think something we all struggle with is the right balance of a focus on the external

01:50:13.240 versus the internal and obviously you can be a pietist and only focus on the internal be blind

01:50:18.720 to the external and that that can be crushing but you could also focus too much on the external

01:50:24.240 and the all of the ways that you're losing without a proper appreciation for what Christ

01:50:28.560 is already done for you. And so I just think, I think that's something that we all have to

01:50:32.960 remain sort of grounded on and have the right perspective. I think Romans 8, it's always been

01:50:39.020 sort of my favorite chapter. It's just a very nicely summarized white pill, you know, it opens,

01:50:44.440 there's therefore now no condemnation for those in Christ Jesus, for the law of the Spirit has set

01:50:48.020 you free from the law of sin and death. A little later on it says, for I consider the present

01:50:52.940 sufferings to be unworthy of the future glories. And then a little bit later it says, what should

01:50:57.300 we say to these things, if God is for us, who can be against us? Who can bring a charge against

01:51:01.340 God's elect? It is God who justifies. And so I just think, I think that the pieces of God's

01:51:06.700 everlasting love, the pieces of the future glory, the pieces of what Christ has done for us,

01:51:10.960 I think particularly for the internal to just remain focused, remain grounded,

01:51:15.700 and then to use that to charge out into the world and combat, and the external combat the

01:51:24.100 the ways of the world convince others of that same truth and win in that way i think that's

01:51:28.440 the history of the church yep amen wes you want to read the next one all right johnny marvelous

01:51:34.460 wiki wiki 15 thanks johnny he said my brother wants to build a barn dominium instead of buying

01:51:40.940 a house to help save some shekels so he can have his 10 to 12 children what are your thoughts on

01:51:45.860 this strategy that's great love it love it yeah barn does you can do uh you got to polish the

01:51:50.540 concrete. Got to do some work on the walls. Barnum's going to be awesome. Spacious and affordable.

01:51:55.140 Barnominiums can be really beautiful. We have families in our church that have them, and they

01:51:59.100 can be really nice, like surprisingly nice. The reason why it's like, okay, yeah, but why not just

01:52:04.420 build a house? Well, some of the materials, exterior materials, are actually more affordable,

01:52:08.720 cheaper, but it's not just that. It's not just that you can build the Barnominium cheaper than

01:52:14.080 building a house. One of the big reasons that not everybody knows about, apparently, is the

01:52:20.300 property tax. Barnuminium, it is possible to, you know, so if you own 40 acres, you know, you can

01:52:27.140 get the homestead exemption and those kinds of things because you have, you know, whatever it

01:52:31.260 is here in Texas, I think it's like 14 goats, or you can get it if you have enough. That'd be an

01:52:34.860 ag exemption. You're right, you're right. But if you get the ag exemption, if you have honeybees,

01:52:40.760 you know, or if you have goats, or if you have this number of horses or whatever, you can get

01:52:45.280 that. But if you have, for instance, 40 acres of land, you think like, oh my goodness, I'm not

01:52:49.940 going to have to pay taxes uh property taxes or 90 percent of my property but they actually

01:52:54.460 subdivide it so like wherever your home is on that 40 acres they will um for all intents and

01:53:00.000 purposes they basically draw a square around that of one acre and then it's the other 39 that you'll

01:53:05.560 get the ag exemption for but you're still going to have to pay the normal property taxes on your

01:53:09.920 one acre that's the most valuable because your house is oh my goodness i didn't even know that

01:53:14.840 yes so terrible that's how it works however this is why guys will do the barnuminium they're not

01:53:19.960 just saving on the materials um but depending how you work it and being shrewd uh there is a way

01:53:26.560 or at least the potential and i know guys who have been able to achieve this

01:53:29.960 where the barnuminium doesn't count as a house and so if it doesn't count as a house then they

01:53:36.240 don't subdivide it as you know as this one acre is not ag exempt and so now the whole thing can

01:53:43.200 be ag exempt, including the house. So then they'll say, well, the barnuminium is worth this much,

01:53:48.080 but it gets 90% off the property taxes, just like everything else. So anyway, so if my point is,

01:53:54.900 he's got to do his homework. He's got to, you know, he's got to, you know, make sure he knows

01:53:58.440 what he's doing. But if he knows what he's doing, and he maybe even has a little bit, you know,

01:54:02.280 somebody with some some legal savvy who's willing to help him, it can be really, really strategic

01:54:08.940 to do the Barnuminium because you save on materials and you could also potentially save

01:54:13.820 a lifetime in property taxes. So great idea. Okay. Great. King Gerd sent $2 and says,

01:54:21.240 my house will be my children's launchpad. Amen. Amen to that. That's great. Savad

01:54:27.200 Atakad. Yes, yes, yes, of course, sir. But please, please, what is your Christian name?

01:54:35.380 So we have Savav Atikad.

01:54:37.540 It's either a joke or he is somebody who is not a heritage American.

01:54:42.140 Either way, though, I have to say, he did give us $19.99.

01:54:45.640 God bless.

01:54:45.920 So I'm going to assume.

01:54:47.120 I mean, there are people who hate us.

01:54:48.820 And they'll send in a super chat just to have their hateful comment read on the air.

01:54:53.060 But he didn't give a comment.

01:54:54.060 And he gave the hateful troll.

01:54:57.380 That's a $1 super chat.

01:54:59.960 But this guy gave $19.99, which makes me think he's supportive.

01:55:03.600 But we're about to find out.

01:55:04.640 because he has a comment right below here it comes let's see to anyone looking for a good

01:55:09.780 confessional church all right we're all right we're gonna be okay uh in north idaho check out

01:55:14.540 bayview bible church uh my elders are based and it's a safe place for heritage americans to raise

01:55:21.140 a family god bless right response ministries i knew he was our guy you don't give 20 that name

01:55:27.520 is not our guy but uh you don't give 20 he's in deep cover unless you're you're on board i i just

01:55:33.060 i'm going to go on record i'm just going to say that name is a joke it has to be it has to be a

01:55:37.980 joke and if it's not a joke here's the deal if it's not a joke then the guy um literally is not

01:55:42.940 you cannot be a heritage american with that name no offense um but he would be a good christian

01:55:47.700 brother who still appreciates america and wants americans to not be displaced so either way he's

01:55:53.380 our guy and it's probably a joke all right next one wes all right 10th generation sons of the

01:55:57.960 american revolution sent two dollars i think he's clarifying from the very beginning when he said if

01:56:01.980 you haven't said his name uh it's all in vain i think the name is he said sorry rumple stiltskin

01:56:07.440 grim's fairy tale on usury oh okay there we go all right that's what it's from uh this dude rocks

01:56:13.920 he gave us a two dollar super chat and he said uh favorite christmas song uh and worldly uh holiday

01:56:21.220 song so like a christmas hymn and then maybe like a you know christmas thing that's not christian

01:56:26.220 um i i don't know man i i like a holy night that's that's always been one of my favorite

01:56:31.080 fall on your knee what do you think um i like uh i mean joy to the world's a great one i think uh

01:56:38.900 let israel i think we've done this in our church we've sang this during christmas time uh i think

01:56:43.780 we at least did last year uh let israel say and think uh now say now and thankfulness is a good

01:56:49.160 yeah that's a good one uh hark the herald angels sing that's a classic classic classic and then

01:56:56.760 of course you know for uh non-christmas or non-christian but uh holiday songs uh for wes

01:57:03.680 it would be santa baby i'm pretty sure i'm not sure about that i don't know for antonio i think

01:57:09.420 it's mariah carey all i want for actually uh i don't know we'll just go with the christmas hymns

01:57:15.200 jd peabody he gave us five dollars no comment just checking in giving us five bucks thanks

01:57:20.600 we appreciate that brother uh then we have pavel pavel pavel pavel okay five dollars from pavel

01:57:26.800 he said only jubilee can be a check against usury this is actually a great point i think we should

01:57:33.500 do a whole episode on this one day um i do think that jubilee was the old covenant principle to

01:57:40.520 stop usury and but that's just a longer thing to flesh out but i just want to say pavel

01:57:44.100 i personally i don't know if west agrees i don't know if antonio but i i think you're on the right

01:57:49.680 track so he said only jubilee can be a check against usury and then he finishes by saying

01:57:54.320 forced forgiveness of debt is a biblically approved remedy i think there's something there

01:58:00.640 yeah okay uh then timothy hatcher timothy hatcher last one five dollars thanks timothy we appreciate

01:58:06.720 it he said hypothetical who do you support for public office 10th generation heritage american

01:58:12.820 woman i knew it i knew woman was coming or a second generation man uh who is a foreigner

01:58:19.540 okay i would need to know a little bit more details okay but in the abstract that's all

01:58:24.620 you know you don't ask reform guys theoretical questions you're gonna get caveat but this is

01:58:29.520 what i want to know though exactly but what i want to know is is this 10th generation heritage

01:58:33.300 american woman a christian and the second generation foreigner is vivek ramaswamy who's a

01:58:37.820 hindu you see what i'm saying we should just do all equal right i think everything else has to be

01:58:41.960 christian both are christian neither christian so it's a christian woman uh who's 10th generation

01:58:47.360 heritage american or it's a christian man you put it you put it that way is he a christian yeah

01:58:56.800 he's written multiple books on theology i i thought i thought his religion was judaism

01:59:02.400 dinesh d'Souza the the indian felon the guy who's constantly worshiping israel

01:59:07.960 yeah i mean he's a professing christian god doesn't seem to be christ we'll take your point

01:59:13.120 the only time i've seen dinesh even mention the name of jesus is to to tweet it out and to make

01:59:21.620 sure everyone knew that jesus was a jew so are you serious i am genuinely asking is he a christian

01:59:27.440 yes he generally professes to be a christian really wow i all you want to know from his

01:59:31.820 twitter page over the last three months all right so so wes has made it literally i thought he was

01:59:36.040 a Jewish rabbi so Dinesh D'Souza or Amy Coney Barrett okay Dinesh D'Souza or Amy Coney oh my

01:59:42.160 gosh what about a tank of sharks is that in the equation yeah Dinesh D'Souza literally wrote a

01:59:50.700 book what's so great about Christianity when when did he change then when did he apostatize

01:59:57.920 so maybe he used to be a Christian but I'm telling you I'm not trying to be rude I really

02:00:04.320 him i'm not debated on god okay but i'm just saying i i've been following him for three months

02:00:10.780 and all i've seen is um jesus is a wake up the bible is jewish this is jewish this is like

02:00:19.340 that's all i see so i just that's his brand i'm just like i just imagine that what people

02:00:24.460 are constantly elevating and glorifying is where their heart is right you know where your treasure

02:00:29.360 is or where your words are out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks his god according

02:00:33.540 to that this is the teachings of jesus i am a christian i can say that according to the christian

02:00:38.100 god jesus christ he says out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks and the only thing i

02:00:42.880 see his mouth speaking is uh worship of israel judaism jewish people so i just assumed he was

02:00:50.820 a jew like religiously you're telling me the foreign man who came to the christian west

02:00:55.700 doesn't understand what is actually going on here curious so anyway to answer the question

02:01:01.040 Amy Coney Barrett, I'll go on the record.

02:01:02.720 This is really what we're talking about.

02:01:03.920 Oh, snap, you went there.

02:01:05.120 You went with the 10th generation.

02:01:06.580 This is what we're talking about.

02:01:07.820 I'm not going to lie.

02:01:08.740 I think it's the right answer.

02:01:10.060 It's either you lose your country now

02:01:11.740 or you lose it in two generations.

02:01:13.980 I guess I would pick two generations.

02:01:15.920 You know why I would say the woman,

02:01:18.760 and just please,

02:01:20.140 because people will clip this out, right?

02:01:21.820 And they'll forget the one billion dozen episodes

02:01:25.820 that we've done about why women

02:01:27.480 should not be in leadership, okay?

02:01:28.980 So I'm saying it right here.

02:01:30.060 so if it gets clipped out the disclaimer is here in the clip women need to go home

02:01:34.420 they need to be mothers they need to be wives they do not need to be civil rulers but that said if

02:01:41.140 those are the choices right it's um 10th generation heritage american christian woman or second

02:01:48.900 generation foreigner but who is a christian yeah i i think i would go with the woman and the reason

02:01:56.540 why it's like what that doesn't sound theonomic that doesn't sound biblical that uh the reason

02:02:01.760 why is because it's american honestly like and this is hard like people this might get clipped

02:02:08.020 out people won't like this um it's it's more true to the heritage of my country um the founders

02:02:16.160 that i know that would have been their answer um the white woman i'm not trying to be offensive

02:02:23.100 But the white woman of European descent who, you know, became a widow because her husband died an untimely death or whatever, like, she would have had more power socially.

02:02:34.080 She could have been the heir to his estate and actually operate with authority the affairs of the estate, whereas a foreign man, be it a slave or a Chinaman or an Indian or whatever, would not.

02:02:49.480 They would have been seen outside of the people.

02:02:51.520 So the American founders, it's certainly before 1776, but for another good, what do you think, Wes, another good 100, 120 years after 1776, all the way up until probably 100 years ago, they would have seen the woman among us is of a greater stature in society than the male foreigner who is not among us.

02:03:17.820 And honestly, as a father and as a husband with a wife and four daughters, yes, if it came down to empowering one of my daughters.

02:03:29.320 Now, again, my choice is give me the heritage American Christian man that my daughter can submit to so she can stay at home and bake pies because she'd be happier.

02:03:39.860 But if it's between the foreigner who's only second generation, he does not know our customs.

02:03:45.780 he's not one of us

02:03:48.040 down the line eventually

02:03:49.860 his posterity could be

02:03:51.360 but he's not as a second generation

02:03:53.620 I would rather my daughter

02:03:55.780 be able to make a

02:03:57.900 decision for the future of

02:03:59.980 the country than

02:04:01.480 someone who is not my people

02:04:03.920 who's not my people

02:04:05.380 and I think that would have been the founders answer

02:04:07.420 I think that was early American answer

02:04:09.440 they would have given more rights and more privilege

02:04:11.720 and a higher status in society

02:04:13.240 to the wife of a noble man

02:04:17.900 who was European descent, American,

02:04:22.880 than a man who actually is a male

02:04:25.440 but outside of the founding stock.

02:04:28.280 And here's the deal.

02:04:29.500 I'm not trying to ruffle feathers,

02:04:33.000 but I'm actually just trying to subject myself

02:04:36.140 to a group of people, our fathers, our ancestors,

02:04:40.180 who i really believe were probably wiser and smarter and more godly and more god-fearing and

02:04:47.640 more biblically minded than i am i think they had a reason and i don't like gk chesterton would say

02:04:53.620 don't take down offense until you know why it was put up i think they probably had a reason for that

02:04:57.840 and i'm going to defer to them what do you guys think i know that's kind of surprising because

02:05:03.140 i'm the patriarchal guy you know you're a moderate though after all sensible classic moderate yeah

02:05:09.080 yeah i think it's good reasoning i i think i'd go with the american over a foreigner but it's close

02:05:13.840 it's close it's not great that's a that's a terrible hypothetical i absolutely hate it but

02:05:18.700 i think so all three of us i think we would say yep put it down this is the only time you're ever

02:05:23.380 going to hear it uh we just found a scenario where we would have a woman in a position of

02:05:28.820 civil leadership god forbid i hope it never comes to that uh but here's the thing it's

02:05:33.780 it could come it's going to be marjorie taylor green dude i know and kamala i'm not joking

02:05:39.180 not not oh one day i'm telling you like literally as i saw the question i was like oh crap i was

02:05:45.080 like i better be thinking about it and give a decent answer now because this will literally be

02:05:48.520 the theme of conversation i think it is likely in 2028 i actually do i actually think it is

02:05:56.460 absolutely possible that you have a european christian woman against well marjorie taylor

02:06:04.200 green is considering a run for president i know so you could have theoretically marjorie taylor

02:06:08.220 green professing christian divorcee we'll leave that aside but america first america first god

02:06:13.780 versus gavin newsom or versus a uh pete budajek a gay man pete booty juice

02:06:20.180 yeah anyways that's terrible are there any more super chats uh nathan i don't even want to think

02:06:25.600 about that i feel like i just need to just go home think about something else is this the last one

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