The NXR Podcast - THE LIVESTREAM - Tucker Interviews Nick Fuentes ｜ Gatekeeping, Feminism, & Crushing the Left

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00:00:30.000 nick fuentes he is making waves was just invited to tucker carlson's show now for those of you

00:00:40.540 who are unaware there has been a little bit of a a scuffle to say the least between tucker

00:00:46.880 carlson and nick fuentes as two right-wing individuals they had the typical face-to-face

00:00:53.360 in real life as the kids would say meeting right what what happens when two right-wing

00:00:59.160 individuals meet IRL for the first time. I thought you were a Fed. I thought you were a Fed.

00:01:05.060 That tends to be how it goes. And so they were attempting to hash out some of their differences

00:01:09.280 and then Tucker Carlson simply playing the investigator, journalist, a good interviewer

00:01:16.120 and simply asking questions, giving Nick a chance to say what he really believes. Now there's been

00:01:23.180 a ton of people who are clutching their pearls and very, very, very troubled, very concerned

00:01:30.940 that Tucker Carlson would give an opportunity like this to someone like Nick. Now, that's what

00:01:38.560 we're going to be discussing. Was this a bad move? Was this the wrong call? That's what we'll be

00:01:43.240 discussing in this episode. We're going to talk about conservative gatekeeping, why it's dying,

00:01:48.840 and why, to show our hand preemptively, we think that that is a positive development.

00:01:55.200 In addition to gatekeeping and some of the strategies there and why it needs to fall

00:02:01.280 apart, why it needs to come to an end, that'll be our first segment, but also in addition

00:02:06.140 to that, our second segment, we want to talk about some of the discourse, not so much the

00:02:10.640 politics, but really getting down to culture, getting down to men and women and marriage

00:02:16.460 and family. We wanted to talk about what we found is one of the most interesting portions of the

00:02:23.060 interview of Nick Fuentes with Tucker Carlson, which had to do with dating and marriage. It had

00:02:29.780 to do with men. It had to do with certain devastating vices, such as pornography. What

00:02:36.860 do young men do today when the distance between single men and single women is so vast at a

00:02:45.760 point of this interview, Nick even mentioned some of the data on this subject. I believe he cited a

00:02:53.300 45-point difference between the political proclivities of young single women and those

00:03:01.600 of young single men. In other words, to put it blatantly, to put it short, young single men

00:03:10.520 are right-wing young single women are just horrible just absolutely horrible um i mean 0.92

00:03:20.580 i saw on x the other day and i think it was well said uh someone said that um women vote 0.83

00:03:27.500 overwhelmingly for pro-immigrant policies and legislators politicians and now we have young

00:03:36.360 women all over our country and especially when you think of England and certain European countries

00:03:42.080 who are rising up young single women social influencers saying we need men we need men to

00:03:49.760 stand up and to be men and to protect us we don't feel safe what does that really mean what it means 0.88

00:03:57.320 is that right now what we have going on in the west is young women voting in hordes of foreigners 0.85

00:04:06.340 that steal, that sexually assault, that murder, 0.66

00:04:13.220 and then those same young women saying, 0.97

00:04:16.160 we voted for this and now we need men in our country to die for this.

00:04:25.240 That's where we're at. 1.00

00:04:27.120 The young women are a liability. 1.00

00:04:30.300 Young women in the West are a liability on the West and its potential survival. 1.00

00:04:37.340 And young men have woken up. 1.00

00:04:40.840 Now, Tucker Carlson, being 56 years old, is, I think, wise.

00:04:45.960 I think, in many ways, godly.

00:04:47.900 And I'm super grateful for him.

00:04:50.580 But I think it's fair to say that he demonstrated that despite some of the maturity, the experience, and wisdom,

00:04:56.620 Tucker Carlson at least on this subject is wildly out of touch and Nick got to the heart of some of

00:05:04.720 these things now I still would like to see more biblical solutions so we'll discuss some of that

00:05:10.540 in this episode as well so conservative gatekeeping that age has ended we think that's positive

00:05:18.340 we'll tell you strategically politically and culturally why also talking about men and women

00:05:25.240 and the ever-increasing vast gap between the two,

00:05:30.140 what does that mean for young men

00:05:31.640 and them needing to get married,

00:05:34.300 needing to be husbands, needing to be fathers?

00:05:36.420 What's going to happen culturally?

00:05:38.460 What's going to happen with the family?

00:05:40.420 What's going to happen in our churches 0.98

00:05:41.960 with young Christian men in America

00:05:44.220 as we look towards the coming years?

00:05:47.060 All this and more on today's episode.

00:05:49.620 Tune in now.

00:05:55.240 well if we had a tombstone for conservative gatekeeping i think the years that you would

00:06:03.700 put on it for its lifespan 2015 to 2025 about i think that's fair a nice round number it's been

00:06:10.100 about 10 years that there was a conservative inc right you can think of the big institution

00:06:14.400 the big corporation big con and it said in more ways than one and it said you must toe this line

00:06:20.540 you must say these things if you want to have a platform we've mentioned it many times over the

00:06:25.180 past couple of months you guys have to understand five six seven years ago there weren't that many

00:06:29.340 names in town there were a couple big shows a couple big platforms a daily wire really being

00:06:34.120 the big one and there were really only certain things that you could say and nick is case in

00:06:39.500 point love the guy or hate the guy he came up in a time where he said i have questions about this

00:06:45.500 i'm not going to repeat these lines he goes through all of this with tucker carlson how he

00:06:49.280 was ostracized by the daily wire types literally people that worked at daily wire ben shapiro ben

00:06:54.740 shapiro he was ostracized by uh right side broadcasting so when he had less than a thousand

00:07:00.020 followers on twitter think about that ben shapiro nuked him from orbit twice he's like i've got to

00:07:07.240 crush this guy i've got to crush the questions he's answering and for the record that was that

00:07:11.920 was nick before a lot of the thing you know eventually what nick ended up doing as many

00:07:17.840 young single men being 17 18 19 years old is after being nuked from from orbit uh he leaned in

00:07:26.780 and played the heel and i don't think he should have done that i don't i mean do it a little maybe

00:07:32.120 in some strategic ways but yeah i think he leaned in and and went too far um but ben shapiro nuked

00:07:40.240 him before any of that happened so this is not ben shapiro nuking nick you know when he's halfway

00:07:45.940 in and he's saying some of his most unhinged things right this is when this is a time when

00:07:52.140 nick was just barely getting started he had virtually zero influence and at that point

00:07:57.840 the worst thing that he had said was um i don't think that we should be you know in bed with

00:08:04.400 israel and ben shapiro instinctively was like i've got to crush this man i can't believe he

00:08:11.260 so all that back to your point besides making it just about ben shapiro on the whole that was big

00:08:17.320 con big conservative inc that was that was the sentiment that was the ethos was um meticulous

00:08:26.060 gatekeeping must be within our frame anything out of it uh not just we won't give you an opportunity

00:08:32.380 we will destroy you that's what it's been for 10 years so whether it was big con and uh social

00:08:39.860 media giants, your Facebook, your Instagram, they were in cahoots. And people don't understand,

00:08:45.560 they could take your livelihood. They could take your source of money from advertising,

00:08:50.160 your platform where you found viewers. Especially it was during the Biden administration,

00:08:54.940 the first two years or so prior to Musk buying Twitter. I mean, you'd have people that were just

00:08:59.980 nuked from orbit. I used to watch them here. I used to catch them on YouTube where I used to see 0.95

00:09:04.520 their posts on Twitter. And they possessed the power enough that these people could virtually

00:09:08.760 be deleted from the internet think of that power hundreds of thousands of people follow you they

00:09:13.600 tune into your show they listen to your stuff they pass around your writings and one group one

00:09:19.140 institution has the power to say you're never going to see anything from this person ever again

00:09:24.500 and that was 10 years of gatekeeping someone mentioned buckley in there this is a very uh

00:09:29.160 long-standing conservative tradition right what do conservatives exist to do conserve the victories

00:09:33.680 of the left from 10 years ago.

00:09:35.700 So I'm being a little funny, 2015 to 2025.

00:09:38.580 That's a microcosm of a generational pattern of gatekeeping.

00:09:41.080 Sometimes to make a point, you give a quote from somebody.

00:09:43.880 Right.

00:09:44.420 And then sometimes you give a hypothetical quote

00:09:46.960 for the future that you think, right?

00:09:49.540 So I want to say, you know, give that disclaimer.

00:09:51.900 This is not an actual quote yet.

00:09:55.400 My prediction, five to 10 years,

00:09:57.320 you'll have someone like James Lindsay saying, 0.95

00:09:59.680 Democrats are the real pedophiles. 0.63

00:10:03.680 so like and i say that because it really does kind of put a point on it um when you think of 0.98

00:10:10.360 you know uh what what do you mean conservatives are just solidifying shoring up the past victories

00:10:16.720 of the left just coming behind them you know five to ten years later um what i mean is precisely

00:10:23.480 that i mean now we have the conservative movement where you know you guys you have guys vehemently

00:10:29.180 defending defending same-sex marriage right and and it's not preposterous to think you know so

00:10:36.000 what does it mean to be a conservative conservatives have conserved nothing ever ever ever so so the

00:10:44.680 idea of of saying that a conservative in the future five to ten years from now uh would just

00:10:51.160 say well democrats are the real pedophiles uh that's i mean that's kind of what conservatives 0.98

00:10:57.240 have done right that's been our entire rhetoric for decades democrats are the real racist 0.99

00:11:03.540 democrats are the real you know um but but even that what that proves is is it conservatives

00:11:10.680 have already assumed a leftist marxist frame right so democrats are the real racist meaning

00:11:17.880 what we can cede all ground we admit uh that there are no distinctions in the world that god has

00:11:24.540 created, that to even see color as a category at all is inherently wicked and sinful, and we won't

00:11:36.000 do it. Well, here's the deal. You think that's conservative, but every prior generation before

00:11:44.200 the 1960s would have disagreed with you. The liberals would have disagreed with you. So you

00:11:50.820 just have to admit right you can say well they were wrong and so we fixed it okay well that's

00:11:54.980 fine but then pick a different word besides conservative because conservative in it implies

00:12:00.920 you're conserving something but anytime you actually pin a conservative down and and talk

00:12:07.180 to him about these kinds of things they'll immediately pivot and say oh well yeah we're 0.93

00:12:11.040 not conserving old things because all the old people were racist and mean and so then you have 0.99

00:12:16.420 to say, okay, so then you're not actually a conservative. You're a progressive, just a 1.00

00:12:20.420 slower progressive than the other progressives, right? There are quick progressives and slow

00:12:25.400 progressives. That's what a conservative is, is a slow progressive. I personally am not interested

00:12:30.640 in the slightest in either position. I don't want to be a fast progressive or a slow progressive.

00:12:36.580 I want to be the new Christian right. I want to be a Christ follower. I want to be a voice

00:12:43.920 in the wilderness crying out make straight the way for the lord i i don't want to conserve

00:12:50.740 anything from the 20th century good bit of the 19th century i want to as the kids would say

00:12:58.520 return we must return return like 20 years ago no back to 2005 return old school people forget

00:13:08.600 because the cultural tide is shifting so quickly but i remember it's probably 2017 2018

00:13:13.980 Dave Rubin, a gay man, him and his partner adopting two boys.

00:13:18.720 And conservatives were all in his comments saying, congratulations.

00:13:23.300 Congratulations on human trafficking two children away from their mother.

00:13:28.560 And we forget that.

00:13:29.780 Guys, those are the conservatives.

00:13:31.320 And the worst thing about it, if you can imagine the left going through a hallway

00:13:34.320 and slamming open the door and breaking and transgressing boundaries, 0.56

00:13:38.060 gay marriage, adoption, gays having children.

00:13:40.960 And as they go and they open those doors, conservatives are coming in behind them.

00:13:44.700 They're closing the doors.

00:13:45.780 And with their gatekeeping, they're locking it.

00:13:48.060 So like, here's the way the left progressed here.

00:13:50.200 And here's the victory that they had.

00:13:51.640 And we're going to come in.

00:13:52.760 We're going to take this space.

00:13:53.760 And we're going to close the door on even going back to it. 0.57

00:13:57.000 And then what you have is young men saying, hey, actually, okay, we have gay marriage now. 0.69

00:14:00.680 This was passed.

00:14:01.840 But this was vastly unpopular 10 years ago. 0.99

00:14:03.960 And so I'd like to return to a time where we didn't have gay marriage.

00:14:07.300 And Conservative Inc. says, you're off the reservation. 0.98

00:14:09.800 you are allowed to go this far. We have solidified this victory for the left. We will not be

00:14:14.320 interested whatsoever in taking it back and rewinding it. You can go no further. And all

00:14:19.220 that to say, all that to sum it up, they had a vice hold and they ruined many, many people's

00:14:24.520 lives. And Nick is not the only one. There's people that have spent their entire careers,

00:14:28.760 Pat Buchanan being one of them, other guys that are just finally reemerging. They spent decades

00:14:33.700 in the wilderness, decades being silenced and not silenced because they were unhinged, not silenced 0.71

00:14:39.260 because they were crazy not silenced because they were hateful silenced because they were right

00:14:43.840 they had the receipts they had the evidence and conservatives in hand oftentimes with liberals

00:14:50.100 said we don't want anyone to hear from you ever again right but that era is and i think this

00:14:56.380 interview that came out this would have been monday night i think that honestly signifies

00:15:01.060 the end of it they had a very cordial discussion they had their disagreements they had their

00:15:05.060 differences we'll talk a little bit later about it but tucker said you know what i'm not going to

00:15:09.580 do that i'm going to have this young man come in i'm going to sit down i'm going to hear him out

00:15:14.120 i'm going to have dinner with it i think we would both like to go on the record and say hey we have

00:15:18.540 listeners some of them don't like nick some of them love nick and honestly perfectly fair you

00:15:23.420 guys don't have to agree with us yeah you don't have to like nick but as far as the gatekeeping

00:15:26.860 goes as far as being willing to have someone who's interesting who's had something to say

00:15:31.360 and that people are listening to 500 000 subscribers on rumble a million followers on x right this is

00:15:38.420 a guy people are listening to they say hey uh i've heard a lot about on x and and he had 400 000 on

00:15:44.380 x just earlier this year yeah generational huge yeah huge increase fast so you don't have to agree

00:15:51.420 with the guy to say this is someone that people are listening to this is someone young men who

00:15:56.460 are setting up the future of this country they're listening to him and you know what you can't tell

00:16:01.660 me a grown man with my platform tucker carlson's not with fox anymore you can't tell me a grown man

00:16:06.600 who i can and can't have on my show that's right so i'm going to bring him in i'm going to ask him

00:16:10.540 about what i want to ask him about and as far again maybe you disagree with our take we would

00:16:15.300 both say that is a good thing that geek keeping is ending let people's arguments stand on their

00:16:21.500 own merits. Let them stand or fall based on the person, their character, their arguments, the

00:16:26.960 weight on the merits of what they're actually advocating for. Let that happen. And I think

00:16:31.720 people would be surprised. I want to give an example here. Most of you probably familiar

00:16:37.200 have heard the name David Duke, former grand Klansman in the KKK, and honestly a degenerate.

00:16:43.260 In the 90s, he was telling people he was broke, that he needed all these donations to run for

00:16:46.820 office. He was using that money to gamble, and he actually spent time in prison. He denied it. He

00:16:50.960 claims that they had the case rigged against him. But I mean, the dude spent time in prison

00:16:55.180 for embezzling money. And he's never really accomplished, to be honest, much in life. He ran

00:17:00.000 numerous times for the United States House of Representatives. Never even got close. Never

00:17:03.840 even was competitive. Well, earlier this year and some of last year, he actually kind of started

00:17:08.740 making the rounds. He was on Hodge Twins. He was on Jake Shields podcast. And so if you're saying,

00:17:13.400 oh, no, no, gatekeeping is good. We have to keep these people out because if they get into the

00:17:18.240 public consciousness if people hear what they actually have to say they're so uh antagonistic

00:17:23.580 they're so combative they're going to draw people in and uh and we won't be able to stop talking

00:17:29.040 about them they're going to dominate the discourse well i don't know about you joel i have not heard

00:17:33.760 much about david do he came and then people realized actually he doesn't have a lot of

00:17:38.240 substance he doesn't have substance yeah and he left so we're going to give him a chance

00:17:42.060 oh you can't do that because if you give him any oxygen at all uh then he's going to you know come

00:17:48.360 roaring into a flame and burn down the entire country no um the only people who are actually

00:17:54.520 capable of doing that are people who have something to say they have some substance and

00:17:59.880 that's the whole thing is on the one hand that you kind of have to make up your mind so either 0.96

00:18:03.520 um either nick is a gay fed and retarded in which case him going on tucker carlson is just going to 0.99

00:18:10.980 convince a lot of people that he's a gay fed and retarded right and everybody's going to laugh at 0.99

00:18:15.000 him and they're not going to hear him and his numbers on his own channel will start to go down 0.97

00:18:19.440 and he'll fade into obscurity or you're saying i don't want anybody to give even an ounce of

00:18:28.060 limelight to nick because he's compelling he has substance he's persuasive he's right not about

00:18:36.500 everything but about enough about a lot of things and i actually am terrified and not just terrified

00:18:43.100 but i actually despise right-wing ideology and i don't want it to win the day so i need to fight

00:18:51.980 it unfairly i need to take right-wing views and tie their hands behind their back and i think it's

00:18:59.520 the latter i think we just have to admit that a lot of the people who are coming out um they'll

00:19:04.940 say, well, he's just so terrible or he's so horrible or he's this or he's that. But that's

00:19:12.380 not really, I don't think that's true. I don't think that's what people really mean. I think

00:19:17.200 what they really mean is we're terrified that he's winning. We're terrified that he's going to

00:19:22.860 win. And we don't want him to win because at the end of the day, we don't actually want America

00:19:28.580 to be right wing we want america to be a neocon nation we want george bush america right we want

00:19:37.420 israel as our greatest ally um yes you know uh um god's called men to to be leaders in their home

00:19:45.680 but we want to still reserve the right to define what does that mean and what does it mean of

00:19:50.380 course absolutely nothing we still we want to say that we value women and maybe not put them in

00:19:56.480 combat positions in the military, but everything else, they can function just like a man. We want 0.96

00:20:01.300 our women, our blonde haired women in pantsuits, making speeches, pacing back and forth behind a 1.00

00:20:08.240 podium and telling men what to do. We love that. Those are American values and represent freedom. 0.99

00:20:13.520 So my point is, that's conservatism. That's what it is. And so I just would appreciate

00:20:19.800 if conservatives would be honest and just come out and say we're libs we are libs and and yes

00:20:26.920 we don't we don't want these things to get oxygen to get um air time because we are trying to

00:20:35.360 conserve liberalism um and and i think it's for me i i tweeted something out the other day

00:20:42.460 um i have known you know it's like three years ago you know four years it was probably four

00:20:48.340 years ago i recognize james lindsey is not a conservative right um and then about that about

00:20:54.800 that was four maybe four or five years ago um no three four years ago and then and then about one

00:21:00.680 year ago i realized and this is a this is a shift i want to try to illustrate it for you so let's say

00:21:06.240 three four years ago i realized james lindsey is not a conservative one year ago i realized james

00:21:12.260 lindsey is a conservative and i hope you pick up what i mean by that so at first it's like he's not

00:21:19.620 really a conservative later on as i got older and saw a little bit more learned a little bit more

00:21:25.180 i realized oh the problem is not james lindsey not being a conservative the problem is not james

00:21:30.460 lindsey the problem is the entire conservative movement james actually is a conservative i think

00:21:35.660 he's a perfect representation actually of what a conservative is a liberal atheist who spent his

00:21:41.600 young adult years trying to destroy the church of jesus christ who says that amateur porn is an

00:21:48.360 expression of freedom of speech that's conservative that's what it means that's literally what it

00:21:53.200 means so when i finally kind of realized that i i realized oh i don't need to be making the

00:21:59.060 arguments james lindsey is not a true conservative i just need to be perfectly comfortable and say

00:22:03.140 joel webin is not a conservative now that i've seen behind the curtain i know what it means to

00:22:09.080 actually be a conservative i don't want anything to do with it joel webbin is not a conservative

00:22:13.320 and neither is jesus christ jesus hates american conservatism right i believe that um so that's i

00:22:23.320 think that that's why there's the gatekeeping that's why there's kind of the the the full

00:22:28.780 press attack you know full court press against someone like nick fuentes going on tucker carlson

00:22:34.520 is there's a lot to preserve right now.

00:22:39.020 And I think that conservatives

00:22:40.560 are really, really feeling the heat.

00:22:43.680 They're really feeling like the threat

00:22:45.180 is right on their back.

00:22:46.900 They realize, you know,

00:22:47.960 we've got a good thing going right now

00:22:49.800 and we can't afford to lose this.

00:22:52.980 And so that's, I think, where we're at.

00:22:55.020 I was going to say too,

00:22:56.220 media, it reveals who people really are.

00:22:58.820 Like say someone is truly hateful.

00:23:00.720 And I actually think of,

00:23:01.580 I think she's the senator from California,

00:23:03.700 Katie Porter. She came out, it was a clip from 2023, where she is screaming and cursing at an 0.98

00:23:10.860 intern. People can fake it for a while, but on a long enough timeline, if someone stays in the

00:23:15.900 public light and they're interacting with people, I think of Jesus who says, what is done in secret

00:23:20.360 will be shouted from the rooftops. Who people really are, it actually can't be hidden forever.

00:23:25.740 So you can come out and say, well, this guy got platformed and he's running a psyop on all of you

00:23:30.080 and he's not really this, and he's really hateful in his heart. I actually don't have a lot of fear

00:23:33.860 that long-term, 10, 20 years, someone could run that play, because over and over and over again,

00:23:39.720 whether it's men that have had affairs, whether it's people that are abusive to their staff,

00:23:43.520 whether it's people that embezzle money, every single person I would say that's not truly made,

00:23:47.660 especially, well, men especially, the stuff of a good man that have staying power, they get

00:23:54.420 revealed. Yeah, actually, this person is, oh, he paid other people to write his sermons for him,

00:24:00.880 guys like J.D. Greer. Oh, this person is actually behind the scenes. They're a terrible, awful

00:24:06.580 person to work with. Oh, this man isn't faithful to his wife, the attorney general of Texas, 0.88

00:24:12.200 Ken Paxton. So over and over again, if someone doesn't have staying power, being in public is

00:24:17.620 absolutely this beautiful litmus test that I would say chops up and grinds out all of the fakers.

00:24:23.700 It's a really good way of it being done.

00:24:25.600 And so I don't have a lot of fear.

00:24:28.240 Someone has a platform.

00:24:29.220 Someone ascends to this level.

00:24:30.580 Someone passed this test and made it to the next part.

00:24:32.880 Well, we'll see who they are.

00:24:34.200 When the pressure is on, when they're called to recant,

00:24:36.740 we'll see in an age where the internet is forever.

00:24:38.660 What have they literally said on camera?

00:24:40.620 There's no like back scenes or leaked footage.

00:24:43.160 What are they literally saying up front today,

00:24:45.780 daily on their show,

00:24:47.140 weekly on whatever podcast they produced?

00:24:48.720 Those are really great litmus tests

00:24:50.900 and they often reveal who someone really is so i don't have a fear of he's got a platform he's

00:24:56.100 going to be saying these things people will see through it and i think they have an incredible

00:24:59.300 ability especially men as who can be protective and discerning they can see it and say no this

00:25:05.280 guy isn't for real or alternatively someone makes it and they say yeah actually this guy is legit

00:25:11.120 he actually is sharp and i can see these aspects not just talking about nick here but is he these

00:25:16.100 aspects of his character these things of virtue shining through obviously i'm biased but i can

00:25:20.520 last couple of years, Joel, a number of people have tried to be at sermons or be at this, like

00:25:24.680 take him out and clip him out and pull him out and say, you can't platform this guy. You can't

00:25:28.980 be friends with this guy. But then people actually come out and they say, no, actually, I know Joel.

00:25:33.820 He's the real deal. And he's right about this. And he's been right about that. Even with Charlie

00:25:38.480 Kirk, a number of people came and they said, I thought you were going too far. I thought you

00:25:42.180 were off the reservation. Then I watched Charlie Kirk get shot by a violent leftist. And I realized

00:25:46.660 no joel was right he was just early so the public square i would say it it does reveal the truth

00:25:52.380 not immediately over time but over time yeah well said um so yeah we we think that uh gatekeeping

00:25:59.140 for conservatives is uh largely um a net negative and has been for quite some time and i've seen

00:26:06.460 people in the comments saying you know it's it's more than 10 years it's been at least two

00:26:09.980 generations you know going all the way back to buckley you know gatekeeping against buchanan

00:26:13.960 and all these things. And that's absolutely true. I guess what we're expressing is, um, not, you

00:26:19.040 know, gatekeeping among conservatives, um, in terms of its entire history, like the history of

00:26:23.920 the neocons, you know, um, but we're, we're saying at least in its, uh, most, most recent, uh, and

00:26:30.580 heightened expression of, you know, social media podcast, um, those kinds of things. It really does

00:26:37.080 feel like that's been um a 10-year period now from 2015 to 2025 and i'll add with that um it is one

00:26:45.680 of the reasons why the daily wire became so successful and for those of you who are fans

00:26:50.500 of the daily wire i i think you do need to at least recognize that um on the one hand uh the

00:26:55.860 daily wire was early um early just to media and podcasting and these kinds of things you know

00:27:02.240 starting, you know, their company and Jeremy Boring's pool house, you know, and, um, and

00:27:07.200 podcasting before podcasting even really took off before it became as big as it was. So being an

00:27:12.700 early adopter, um, uh, adopter is, uh, is a big part of it. That's part of why Joe Rogan is so

00:27:17.980 popular. Right. It's not just because he was in, you know, media and television and things like

00:27:22.220 that, you know, previously. Uh, but also, I mean, Joe Rogan was one of the first podcasters. He was

00:27:28.020 an early adopter. So Daily Wire became popular for a number of reasons. Some of those are credits

00:27:34.900 to them, like being early adopters and having a good business strategy, at least initially,

00:27:40.440 and those kinds of things. But also one of the reasons Daily Wire just soared into total

00:27:46.880 ascendancy is because Daily Wire in 2020 through 2024, when a lot of people were completely

00:27:57.200 blacklisted or suppressed. Daily Wire, they definitely had some challenges. I remember

00:28:04.100 hearing about, you know, them being throttled a little bit, you know, on Facebook and things like

00:28:09.180 that. But for the most part, Daily Wire, part of the reason, I think of like Forrest Gump. Forrest

00:28:15.480 Gump, you know, he strikes it rich with his shrimp boat because all the other shrimp boats get

00:28:20.100 destroyed in the storm. And so he's the only one. So the competition is gone. Part of the reason

00:28:24.320 the daily wire was successful is because they were kind of right there in that sweet spot and

00:28:29.060 what i mean by that is they were more conservative than any any mainstream thing than fox news or

00:28:36.140 you know anything else but they were also constantly playing it safe right constantly

00:28:41.720 hedging their bets i mean ben shapiro like let's just be honest uh ben shapiro has has i mean he

00:28:47.820 was wrong on every major issue for the last five years ben shapiro it's like you think of the daily

00:28:54.540 wire stalwart you know conservative i mean ben shapiro was arguing for the vaccine arguing against

00:29:00.380 trump and i'm not talking about just for like you know the first eight weeks talking like a year in

00:29:04.820 and he's still saying you know the vaccine doesn't make sense for everyone you know he'd give the

00:29:08.900 caveats like maybe not for your kids but yeah adults should get the vaccine yeah and we're

00:29:13.360 talking like i'm talking it's it's um we're coming up on 2022 even in 2022 uh ben shapiro was

00:29:21.500 largely wrong about covet or or the most charitable way i could say it is barely right

00:29:27.920 um and then you know so with a lot of these kinds of issues my point is uh part of the success of

00:29:33.880 the daily wire is um early adopter right place right time those kinds of things but also they

00:29:40.180 really did play it safe and so kind of like the Forrest Gump analogy they got to you know to go

00:29:46.180 around you know fishing the pond you know uh casting out the net for shrimp and every every

00:29:52.000 other ship has been you know destroyed uh whereas Nick Fuentes when you put it into perspective

00:29:57.680 right the guy just hit a million followers on x um and he was banned from x for years and just

00:30:06.680 i think he just came back in 2024 i think so mid 2024 he's he's been back on for barely a year

00:30:13.460 barely a year um i mean he's still banned from youtube so people say well he's fringe or he's

00:30:19.540 yes he has been made french by the elites by the overlords imagine if nick fuentes not just today

00:30:27.480 right but all along had a youtube channel had an x account had all the things that the daily wire

00:30:33.680 hat um i think he'd be bigger than ben shapiro by a long shot i think even with running with

00:30:40.200 weights on his ankles for the past 10 years i think he will still give it enough time be bigger

00:30:45.860 than ben shapiro i i really do um so the point is when you have someone like that i don't think it

00:30:52.760 just represents like well that's the danger of poisonous ideology and blah blah no i i think

00:30:58.960 when you have something like that you have to ask why you can't just accuse and point the finger

00:31:03.480 you have to you have to stop even if you don't like it even if you don't like the idea or the

00:31:08.220 principle or the person you have to stop at least for a moment and at least consider ask the question

00:31:13.460 why is this person that i hate that i find to be so dangerous or so this or so that why are they

00:31:21.200 so popular why is is uh their material and their content so contagious why why is that why is that

00:31:30.360 And I think there's a lot of answers to that. One of the answers is that Nick is actually right

00:31:35.060 about a lot of things. Another answer is because young men in the West have been absolutely 0.81

00:31:41.360 despised, hated, suppressed, robbed of their inheritance, robbed of opportunities. You're

00:31:48.500 talking young, white, straight men, especially young, white, straight Christian men in the West

00:31:54.800 for at least a decade, and I would argue longer, but at least the last decade in a palpable

00:32:00.300 tangible unavoidable way have been hated despised and robbed

00:32:06.680 and very few people have talked about it until recently nick has been talking about it for 10

00:32:14.720 years there's a reason why he has the momentum that he does and to recognize that and to say

00:32:22.160 you know what maybe he's wrong on some things or maybe the way his rhetoric the way that he says

00:32:28.080 things maybe that's wrong um but the idea that he should not be able to get on an airplane

00:32:33.900 not be able to have a bank account not be able to have a platform you've got all these other

00:32:39.840 leftists talking about transing kids and they're allowed on free speech platforms the transgenders 0.77

00:32:45.600 were allowed on the white house lawn to celebrate pride he can't take a flight despite never being 0.88

00:32:50.340 charged crazy transgenders can shake body parts on the white house lawn and be lauded by the 0.83

00:32:55.640 president right these two don't seem very equal it's it's not right um so the gatekeeping from 0.98

00:33:02.160 conservatives i think has been a plague i think it has been a plague and by god's grace it's it's

00:33:08.640 ending and tucker carlson being a part of that and he has a lot to lose i mean he got a ton of flack

00:33:14.680 over the last 48 hours for this decision but and and i don't think he's surprised by that i think

00:33:20.420 he knew i think he absolutely knew what the fallout would be and he did it anyways and he didn't do it

00:33:26.980 because he agrees with nick on everything he did it because in the big picture i think he knows that

00:33:32.180 it's right it's not right that this 21 you know or 27 year old single man has been um absolutely

00:33:39.660 suppressed and silenced illegally in many cases for a decade so good on tucker carlson i like how

00:33:47.280 said gatekeeping from conservative inc because actually i don't think i don't want to put words

00:33:51.580 in your mouth we're not actually critiquing gatekeeping as a whole if the right is ascendant

00:33:55.900 and we win you absolutely should gatekeep from the left correct yeah but in this case there 0.97

00:34:00.500 should not be transgender people on the white house lawn so it's like well wouldn't you gatekeep 0.94

00:34:05.460 them if you guys were ever in power of course right that's why you have to win well how come 1.00

00:34:09.960 you're allowed you can gatekeep how come you're allowed to do that because we're right

00:34:12.820 right what is this equal standard that i don't i don't get it it's like we should have equal

00:34:18.880 standards um christians should tolerate wickedness equally to wicked people tolerating righteousness

00:34:25.680 wait what it doesn't need to be equal at all christians don't have to tolerate degeneracy

00:34:31.300 and degenerates um absolutely must tolerate righteousness or they need to go to jail or

00:34:38.380 flee the country right it's a wonderful principle perfectly biblical no there's nothing equal about

00:34:44.120 it and that was some of nick's critique early on he says there's a number of openly gay men

00:34:49.100 that are have platforms in conservative party and they're welcomed why aren't they gate kept

00:34:54.620 so the kind of final takeaway here is well do you want to gatekeep gay conservatives which

00:34:59.580 actually it's not a misnomer that's very consistent if we want to gatekeep gay conservatives

00:35:04.200 we actually, you seize power.

00:35:05.860 That's how we win all of this.

00:35:07.720 We do the gatekeeping.

00:35:08.720 The right people let the right people have the platform.

00:35:11.920 And we're celebrating an old, stale neoconservatism

00:35:16.000 that gatekept for decades

00:35:18.080 and kept everyone with even the mildest critique

00:35:20.720 of our foreign support to Israel.

00:35:22.520 It kept them out of the limelight.

00:35:24.120 It kept them from having a job.

00:35:25.540 At its height, they couldn't even fly in a plane.

00:35:28.860 And that system died on Monday,

00:35:31.440 which we say, amen.

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00:39:12.360 boldly deployed. All right, we're back. I want to start by reading a tweet. So now we're going

00:39:19.100 to be talking about the interview with tucker and uh nick in relation to kind of the latter

00:39:25.500 portion of the interview where they started to talk about young men young women um the plight

00:39:30.400 of young men and how come young men aren't dating anymore how come they're not getting married

00:39:34.500 anymore those kinds of things um so i tweeted in relation to that kind of summing up that portion 0.87

00:39:39.680 of the conversation and i said this women western countries have become a hell hole we don't feel 1.00

00:39:45.440 safe men must step up men women vote overwhelmingly for pro-immigration policies and now they demand 0.80

00:39:53.520 we risk our lives to protect them from the world that they made tucker carlson the women are right

00:39:59.600 why are men choosing to be losers by not getting married this would be my response thank god for

00:40:07.240 giving nick fuentes the courage to say in front of millions what america's pastors refuse to say 0.75

00:40:13.740 to their own congregations. If people don't like Nick, then they should view him as God's

00:40:19.960 indictment on the church and its clergy. If you don't like Nick Fuentes, you should thank your

00:40:27.280 pastor. That's why people like him have become increasingly popular. We got in a ton of trouble

00:40:36.580 for saying this months and months ago, but I'll say it again because it's true. You don't like

00:40:40.560 Andrew Tate. You should thank your pastor. Young men are absolutely being destroyed.

00:40:51.440 They're absolutely being destroyed. And again, America's clergy refuses to address the very

00:40:58.700 real problems of today. Well, young men should just get married. The entire legal system of 1.00

00:41:03.960 our country is totally against men. If you get married and you have children, your wife can lie, 1.00

00:41:13.820 cheat, and go to the court, get a no-fault divorce. In some states, get it without having to ever have 0.89

00:41:21.600 you sign off on it, without any approval at all. She will win custody of the children. She will win 0.98

00:41:27.000 the house. She will win your 401k. She will leave you childless. She will leave you destitute. She 0.99

00:41:33.340 will leave you homeless. The legal system, politically, in our nation will be on her side. 1.00

00:41:41.380 Culturally, it's on her side. Your own family members will very likely take her side. And you

00:41:48.920 know what? You bet your bottom dollar, your church and your local pastors will take her side. 0.93

00:41:56.620 But pastors, I promise you, she's lying. That's not true. That's not what happened.

00:42:00.600 I did this and I'm following what 1 Timothy says. I'm following Ephesians 5. Your pastors

00:42:06.100 will look at you and say, no, you're toxic. You're too patriarchal. You're totalitarian. 1.00

00:42:16.480 You're too heavy-handed. You're being harsh. You can't win. You can't win. And this was a moment

00:42:24.460 in the interview where I think Tucker Carlson kind of showed his age. I think Tucker Carlson

00:42:30.300 is great in many many ways i'm grateful for him um but at least at this portion he showed that

00:42:36.520 he's out of touch plus he also did the typical tucker carlson thing which is is funny i appreciate

00:42:42.440 it he did it with ted cruz right so i mean sometimes i think it's really effective where

00:42:45.860 he feigns ignorance right so he's like really the bible says that that if we bless israel

00:42:52.360 we'll be but where does the bible say that and then you know but he knows he actually knows

00:42:56.840 the answer so he's feigning ignorance right um and then he's like well actually it says it in

00:43:01.400 genesis 12 and you know and he pins you to the wall he did that with uh tel aviv ted and i was

00:43:07.440 here for it you know like it was great beautiful so i'm not saying that this is inherently wrong

00:43:11.600 this style of of interviewing that tucker employs on a regular basis um i think that it's it can be

00:43:17.820 very strategic so i don't think it's it's immoral uh but there are certain times where it's like

00:43:22.960 okay come on man like that that level of feigning ignorance is not believable there was literally a

00:43:28.100 portion of the interview uh where tucker uh said what is porn all right like uh okay i i'm pretty

00:43:36.620 sure um that a 56 year old man has heard the word porn before um so you know so he's kind of like

00:43:43.660 feigning ignorance with nick and like what what is this and what's you know what's going on um so

00:43:48.720 there's some of the feigning ignorance which like i already said it's not inherently wrong it can be

00:43:52.600 a good rhetorical skill, it could be a good strategy, and then sometimes it's just unbelievable 0.93

00:43:56.560 and a little bit silly. But beyond that, right, feigning ignorance aside, the other element that

00:44:02.660 was inescapable, everybody noticed, was that in a genuine sense, no feigning necessary for this,

00:44:09.780 in a genuine sense, Tucker is, I think, stereotypical of most men in the country over

00:44:16.260 the age of 50. Even good conservative Christian men like Tucker, they are simply out of touch

00:44:22.940 when it comes to many of the struggles of young single men. But Nick is, you know, painfully

00:44:32.180 in touch and aware of those. I mean, it's him. He represents that sector of the populace. And so,

00:44:40.680 you know, Tucker's kind of like, well, I think you just, you know, you can fix it all by just

00:44:45.340 getting married. Well, for me as a pastor, I've been in those meetings. I've done the marriage

00:44:51.100 counseling. I've walked with men as their wife leaves them and divorces them, and they have no

00:44:59.080 say in the matter, and divorces them for unbiblical cause, for unbiblical reasons, and wins the court 0.55

00:45:06.780 case, and does this, and does that. And by God's grace, I've been in, you know, not many, but at

00:45:12.720 least, you know, at least one experience where the court actually, by God's grace, sided with

00:45:19.920 the husband. And God, believe it or not, God actually used that to change the wife's heart,

00:45:26.400 and it was a wonderful thing. And so, but by and large, we know that the current system that we 0.57

00:45:33.620 live in politically, legally, culturally, and religiously, when it comes to the clergy,

00:45:38.540 spiritually, everything is against men, especially against young, single men. And I think that 0.53

00:45:47.520 Nick was able to articulate that. Now, Nick doesn't have all the solutions that I would like

00:45:54.360 to hear him espouse, but he has his fingers on the pulse in a very, very close way in terms of

00:46:03.100 his diagnoses in terms of the problem. What did you think? It's interesting how embellic he is

00:46:09.820 of that group of men that are under 30 and unmarried. So Nick is 27. He kind of falls

00:46:14.540 right between 25, 30. And historically, a lot of men were married by that time in life. So a lot

00:46:20.260 of men had a wife. A lot of men maybe had a kid or two. A lot of men had a home. But Nick is,

00:46:26.880 he's 27. He's unmarried. He doesn't have children. And he's symbolic of, and you guys have to

00:46:31.660 understand this. I'm not trying to sensationalize or just needlessly talk up. But Nick is the

00:46:37.520 perfect image of the type of man that exists now and is saying the modern dating market,

00:46:43.540 the modern marriage market is wrecked. For one, a big one is, hey, I'm right-wing. Well,

00:46:50.140 most single women in that age bracket, they're left-wing. So he's saying, hey, I'm a single man.

00:46:55.380 I'm a right-wing man. I believe in tradition. I believe in Christianity. I believe in rule of law.

00:47:00.140 I believe in that race is a real category. And for one, that makes me diametrically opposed, 0.99

00:47:05.480 very different from liberal women. And two, I recognize, unlike you, Tucker, in your time when

00:47:10.340 you got married and as you've grown up, unlike in that time, we're seeing feminism. They talked

00:47:15.420 about feminism. It's kind of awesome to hear Tucker say, I believe in patriarchy. That's how 0.99

00:47:19.440 the universe is made. But they're talking about feminism and it's fascinating and they put their 1.00

00:47:24.380 finger on this. Women don't even like feminism when you get down to it. Do they truly, literally 1.00

00:47:29.220 they give them a lie detector test. Do you want to go to the office? Do you want to work under

00:47:33.540 fluorescent lights for 60 hours a week and have no children by 35? Is that really what you desire

00:47:39.760 in life? Most women, you give them a lie detector test, they would say, no, no, that's actually not 1.00

00:47:44.800 what I really want. They've been told it. Women are very consensus driven. So the consensus has 1.00

00:47:49.560 said, go out, have a career, work the job, make money, be your own boss. But they don't actually

00:47:54.680 really want that so nick is saying we're right wing women are not these women think they want 0.99

00:47:59.560 a career and it's very hard to work uphill with decades of propaganda it's hard to work uphill 0.93

00:48:04.300 when every tv show every movie every advert every everything on social media says go out work have

00:48:12.560 the job so he's saying tucker you don't get it the selection for people to date the arrangements

00:48:18.160 the contexts there's a good book called bowling alone there used to be clubs of whether it'd be

00:48:24.020 dances or things that were local to the town. What were the purpose of these things? What were

00:48:29.300 they for? Oh, for men and women to interact so they could find someone to date and find someone

00:48:33.860 to marry. Those have all gone away. So where would I meet someone? How would I find someone

00:48:38.000 that's aligned with me politically? How would I find someone that would be willing to stay home

00:48:42.180 and take care of the home and raise children? Very, very, very hard. And I would say to pastors

00:48:47.540 and men that lead men in other contexts, you have to look at Nick and be aware. These are the type

00:48:52.200 of men that are all around you. They're in this age bracket. They're working. The dating market

00:48:56.960 is not going well for them. They're a little rough around the edges, but these are the men that are

00:49:01.060 prime for discipleship. To be told, stand up. I agree that it's hard, but you can get married.

00:49:07.140 There are still good women out there. There are still jobs to be had out there, right? The job 1.00

00:49:11.500 market is tough. Tons of layoffs going on. You still have to work. There's still jobs out there.

00:49:15.980 And these are the young men I'm excited to actually see discipled and say, don't despair.

00:49:20.040 don't give up on life you can do it and it can happen but it won't be easy right exactly that

00:49:25.760 last part is key um you know i think coming off of blm and wokeness and 2020 and all these kinds

00:49:32.960 of things um again conservative you know big con conservative inc uh they've responded by saying

00:49:39.420 well you know victim narratives are simply that they're narratives and they're always false they're

00:49:44.920 always deceitful. And so being a conservative means that we don't play the victim game. We

00:49:50.280 don't, we don't, you know, purport a victim narrative. But that's actually not true in

00:49:56.560 reality or biblically. The reality is that, and biblically, being a victim is actually an objective,

00:50:05.480 real, legitimate category. There actually are victims. Irena is a victim. Right. I said, well,

00:50:12.900 you know what um she's just playing the victim no she bled out and died on a train alone right

00:50:19.900 there are real victims so the bible never teaches that it's inherently deceitful or immoral to claim

00:50:27.840 victimhood because victims are real victimhood is a real category what what was wrong with 2020 and

00:50:35.520 bl limit is when people who are actually being treated unfairly in a positive light they're

00:50:41.740 actually getting more benefits than they've worked for. They're actually getting more opportunities

00:50:46.620 than they're qualified for. When that group that is not victimized claims victimhood and tries to

00:50:54.520 get even more and is entitled unjustly, entitled without the merits, that's what is immoral. That's

00:51:03.440 what is deceitful. So victims actually do exist. Well, who are the victims currently in our American

00:51:10.300 context? Well, I'll tell you, and I won't mince words, the actual victims in our American context

00:51:16.120 today are heritage Americans. If you are a man, if you are a Christian man, if you are a non-sodomite 1.00

00:51:26.680 gay furry man, and if you are a white man, then you are objectively on the books, be it Ivy League 0.78

00:51:37.740 schools or be it the hiring processes of fortune 500 companies or be it certain tax brackets or be 0.97

00:51:45.720 it just the general cultural milieu or even among the perception of your local elders at your local

00:51:52.720 church if you are a young white single straight man you are in the year of our lord 2025 here in

00:52:02.760 these united states a legitimate victim so that's step one step one is to tell the truth

00:52:13.200 right and and what we see from kind of what tucker carlson is like well i'm patriarchal

00:52:18.940 and because i'm patriarchal the man takes responsibility nick responded really well

00:52:24.240 by saying um yes but responsibility when completely untethered from any ounce of authority

00:52:31.760 is slavery right if men are responsible but all the rights and privileges and authority

00:52:39.440 that are supposed to be in god's natural order coupled with that responsibility if all the rights 0.50

00:52:46.460 are severed but all the duties remain that there's literally a biblical word for that

00:52:52.500 it's bondage it's slavery it's totalitarian abuse that's what it is imagine if we said to

00:53:00.800 police officers, look, your duties remain. Serve and protect. Your rights, privilege, and authority

00:53:07.260 is gone. No badge, no gun. So no gun, no badge, but get out there and serve and protect. That's

00:53:16.380 literally like King David sending Uriah to the front lines and then withdrawing intentionally

00:53:22.280 so that he would be put down and murdered in cold blood. It's wicked, in other words. It's wicked.

00:53:28.960 So the first step to helping young men, there have to be solutions, right?

00:53:32.760 And you already mentioned some of those.

00:53:34.080 You can get married and you can get a job.

00:53:36.360 But that last part that you said, Wes, is key.

00:53:38.860 You said telling men it's possible, but acknowledging it's hard.

00:53:44.220 And it's harder now than it's been before.

00:53:48.500 And the difficulty attached with these things that are still possible, don't despair, don't lose hope.

00:53:54.860 But the difficulty, the increased difficulty, in many ways, the novel degree of difficulty,

00:54:02.540 at least in recent decades here in the West, that is real, it's legitimate, and it's unfair.

00:54:12.980 It's immoral. It's wicked. You can do these things. By God's grace, you can do these things.

00:54:18.420 However, it is much harder to do these things than it was for your parents.

00:54:21.560 and that's a fact and it's wicked you have been treated wickedly you have been robbed

00:54:30.520 you have been mistreated you have had injustice done to you really truly legitimately and if

00:54:42.060 older men if pastors like by god's grace such as myself will just start with that i'm telling you

00:54:48.320 from experience i have been able to say that what i just said to young men looking them in the eyes

00:54:54.280 and then their entire disposition their physical disposition literally changes and then when i

00:55:01.660 begin to articulate solutions and you're going to have to work you know this much harder and

00:55:06.260 you're going to have to pursue these strategies and these avenues um i can tell they listen and

00:55:12.080 then other guys who are patriarchal but when they say they're patriarchal this is what they mean

00:55:17.780 all the responsibility of a man none of the rights privileges and authority of a man when they give

00:55:23.580 similar solutions right some of their solutions are actually similar to the ones i give but they

00:55:28.460 skip over um the reality of the difficulty and unfairness of of the situation they skip that

00:55:37.180 part so there's no acknowledgement there's no admission there's no sympathy there's no compassion

00:55:42.740 there's no grieving with those who grieve there's none of that it's just straight to the solutions

00:55:48.240 well you know things may be tough but you're called to be a man so man up you know yes women 0.59

00:55:56.520 today are voting for communism in mass numbers and you know what that means it means you're just 0.51

00:56:05.500 going to have to be enlisted and go die for israel even harder be a man i'm telling you

00:56:11.080 that does not work that doesn't work but if you say what i was willing to say um victimhood is 0.90

00:56:18.300 a real category black people are not victims objectively on the books they're not victims

00:56:24.540 not today not in 2025 and have not been for quite a while white single straight christian men

00:56:30.580 are that victimhood is real and that victimhood is um it's unjust it's actually wicked you have

00:56:38.260 been sinned against by every sector of society, by your pastors, by evangelical churches,

00:56:46.140 by your government, by corporations, at every level. Boomers, instead of laying up an inheritance 0.79

00:56:53.240 for their children's children, drive around with a bumper sticker on the back of their car that says, 1.00

00:56:58.120 spending my kids' inheritance. That's wicked, and it's real. But I love you. Now listen to me.

00:57:06.300 let's do it together it's going to be hard but i'm with you let's do it together i'm telling you

00:57:11.620 i've never met a young man who won't listen to that i won't i i've never met him even in the

00:57:16.380 chat people people agree they're like yep i would listen to that wish my pastor would say that wish

00:57:21.900 my dad would say that wish my older brother would say that um tucker back to the interview did not

00:57:28.460 say that he didn't and i like tucker but i have to say that was that was an l um and i think that

00:57:36.220 That simply is a reflection of the fact that he's 56.

00:57:38.760 I don't know any man over the age of 50 in the United States of America that gets it.

00:57:45.500 They're all wrong.

00:57:47.420 Sad.

00:57:48.440 I mean, it's really sad because you want to talk about what's biblical.

00:57:52.260 Well, here's another thing that's biblical.

00:57:53.440 The fifth commandment, honor thy father.

00:57:56.700 Honor thy father.

00:57:58.160 And I really believe that young men want to honor their fathers, their familial father,

00:58:04.280 literal father, they're political fathers, civil fathers, they're spiritual fathers, right? Pastors

00:58:10.080 and leaders and elders. I really do believe that. I believe that young men today want to honor God

00:58:17.360 by obeying the fifth commandment and honoring their fathers. But it's really hard when an entire

00:58:23.400 generation, when it comes to the fifth commandment and honoring their fathers, they can look to their

00:58:27.920 fathers and say, I literally can't find a single one of them that's behaving honorably. How do I

00:58:35.100 obey the fifth commandment to honor my father when I have no honorable fathers? We are in a fatherless

00:58:41.180 moment in the West. That's how we got here. We are in a fatherless moment in the West and that

00:58:48.280 has to be felt. It has to be acknowledged. And yes, that's not a license to despair or to give

00:58:54.400 up or to check out right you got to work with what you're given and in our case we were given

00:58:59.220 very little and you have to work with it nonetheless but to skip to that part we've got

00:59:04.160 to work with it without even the admission or the acknowledgement of what dire straits we're in

00:59:10.020 i think is well there's another verse in the bible for that fathers do not exasperate your sons

00:59:16.760 today's sons of the west have been fully and completely and totally exasperated by every

00:59:26.300 single father in society every single father has chosen not to be a father like our heavenly father

00:59:33.340 but to be a father like pharaoh in egypt bricks but no straw and that's exactly what tucker did

00:59:41.540 right bricks make them but no straw responsibility and duties of marriage and children remain but no 0.95

00:59:50.120 acknowledgement of the fact that women are atrocious today they are they are immodest 1.00

00:59:58.320 they're hoes they're dumb like literally intellectually unintelligent they are um 1.00

01:00:05.420 shallow. They are deceitful. They are wicked. They are vile. They vote for trannies. I'm not 1.00

01:00:14.840 making it up. It is a 45, objectively, 45-point difference between young men and young women 0.93

01:00:22.740 today. That's where we're at, 45-point difference. Women are radical progressives. Men are trending

01:00:30.580 right wing. Men are returning to church. Many women are not. Are some women? Yes. But is it

01:00:38.180 objectively less women than the men returning to church? Yes. It has to be said. And there has to

01:00:46.100 be compassion. You have to convince the young man that you're speaking with that you understand

01:00:51.300 and that you're sorry, that you're genuinely sorry. And then begin to instruct him in what to do.

01:00:59.000 that's what you have to that's what you have to do if you don't do that you will not experience

01:01:03.460 any success any thoughts on that wes i was gonna say praise god that nick at that time as a topic

01:01:09.080 came up said no it's actually not like that tucker so tucker gave the view you did the right thing

01:01:14.120 and maybe genuinely like he genuinely thinks no it's not that bad a man just needs to he needs

01:01:18.560 to print out a resume go in and shake a hand and and nick said speaking for these millions of young

01:01:23.520 white men, he said, no, no, no. Respectfully, it is not like that. And probably a lot of men felt

01:01:29.560 like, man, that's how I felt. I couldn't articulate it. I couldn't put it to words. I've heard the

01:01:34.060 other side, right? I've heard the Tucker thing. Like, just get out there. Come on. You know,

01:01:37.580 just find a good woman and get married. I've heard that side of it. But actually, for the first time,

01:01:41.620 heard someone say on the other side, no, actually, it's not fair. Now, you've got to follow that up

01:01:47.520 with, but all of your ancestors fought through adversity as well. Like, at the end of the day,

01:01:52.420 you're here because you have thousands and thousands of thousands of men in your lineage

01:01:56.440 that overcame starvation that overcame war that overcame famine if you're here in america they

01:02:01.380 migrated across the seas probably many of them my ancestors endured harsh winters plagues sickness

01:02:08.040 fighting indians all kinds of things we're still fighting indians that one's still going on but 1.00

01:02:13.060 it's a different indian this time but yes that's that's still happening um used to it was bows and 1.00

01:02:17.900 narrows with you know native indians and uh now it's that's kind of like balls of cow dung with 1.00

01:02:24.720 a different kind of it's like born too late to fight indians for my homeland born just in time 0.96

01:02:29.040 to fight indians for my homeland so you need the second part to it too but it was it was great that

01:02:34.800 on a platform that big with as many views as it's going to have i think it was the best part of the

01:02:38.420 interview it was that was the best it is not like this anymore nick nailed it on that part um in the

01:02:43.820 spirit of solutions though practical solutions let me give you just one and then we'll go to our

01:02:48.120 last commercial break and then we're going to deal with the super chat so let me just say real quick

01:02:51.760 as we prepare for the super chats get them in if you want your comment or your question to be

01:02:57.360 read live on the air send us a super chat send it now that way we'll deal with it if you have a

01:03:03.860 question or a comment it's not a super chat we'll do our best to get to it but i'll be honest

01:03:08.560 as we are getting more and more listeners and more and more followers and more and more super chats

01:03:13.580 i would say the majority of the time i think at this point it's over over half of the time correct

01:03:18.600 me if i'm wrong but we simply do not have time to get to the non super chat so if you really

01:03:24.300 have a burning question even if it's two bucks or whatever that that just moves it to the top

01:03:30.360 of the pile and ensures that we will do it that's been our our policy is uh even if it requires us

01:03:36.860 to stay here you know for three hours we will do all of the super chat so make sure you do that

01:03:42.080 all right bit of practical advice just one piece of practical advice and we'll do you know future

01:03:47.100 episodes on this topic um and and be more thorough and and give more advice in the future but for

01:03:52.540 today um one bit of practical advice and i know it seems painfully practical but i think it merits

01:03:58.000 um saying if you're looking to be married because it is such a risk right now because the moment 0.82

01:04:04.920 that you get married and have children you are legally you are legally subjugated to that woman 0.58

01:04:11.080 she has all the power in our legal system judicially politically culturally spiritually

01:04:19.280 the elders of your church will take her side not yours at every single level she has all the power 1.00

01:04:24.760 and the only the only way um that you even have a snowball's chance in hell of having a good marriage

01:04:32.960 and in a context where she's being consistently affirmed in sin is if she herself she's your only

01:04:43.200 hope she herself would have to be able to look to all of society and say you're wrong my husband's 0.93

01:04:50.400 right she has to be able to look to her parents who are trying to affirm her in feminism and say

01:04:57.060 you're wrong my husband's right she has to be able to look at her pastors and say you're wrong

01:05:02.660 my husband's right. Look at judges and court systems and laws and bills. You're wrong. My

01:05:08.000 husband's right. At every TV show, all the media, all the influencers, you're wrong. My husband is

01:05:13.680 right. She has to be able to look at conservative Christian female influencers at conferences and 1.00

01:05:21.400 say, you're wrong. My husband is right. An incredible amount of resolve in a woman like 1.00

01:05:28.280 this is insanely rare. So the first step to a good marriage is quite obvious, but you must find 1.00

01:05:36.100 a unicorn. In today's context, you have to find an exceedingly rare woman. So one piece of practical 0.97

01:05:43.280 advice would be, well, where do you find something that's so rare? Well, if you want to find something

01:05:49.420 that is rare, you need to go somewhere that is rare. And so what I'm saying is this,

01:05:54.720 there may only be hundreds, not thousands, not millions, hundreds of actual biblically

01:06:03.640 qualified bachelorettes currently in the country. I think that that's plausible. 1.00

01:06:11.960 Likewise, there are probably only dozens of biblically faithful churches in the country.

01:06:20.000 so your best chance of finding that rare woman is going to that rare context where she's most

01:06:28.620 likely to be one of those rare faithful churches which means you might have to move that's why i

01:06:36.600 wrote fight by flight got a bunch of flack for like well i can do what i want don't buy my

01:06:41.040 conscience don't tell i can live in california and and stand the test of time and you know and

01:06:46.900 be faithful like Lot, you know, righteous Lot who suffered while he lived in Sodom. Yeah, but what

01:06:52.640 happened? Eventually he had to leave Sodom and it was burned. And so the reason why I wrote that book

01:06:58.840 was about economic and political policies and all these different things. But another application

01:07:04.180 of that concept, the biblical principle of fleeing, righteous fleeing from wicked places

01:07:10.780 to go to a righteous place, another application would be in pursuit of marriage, in pursuit of

01:07:17.440 finding a spouse. If a righteous woman, the one that I just described, is so exceedingly rare in 0.99

01:07:23.460 today's climate, then you're probably going to have to make some tough choices and go to extreme

01:07:32.400 measures to be in the type of place where these few women might be found. You might have to change 1.00

01:07:39.040 jobs. You might have to move across the country. You might have to change churches. I can't find

01:07:45.140 a woman, Joel. I can't get married. Every Christian woman I meet is a lib. Okay, what church do you go 0.99

01:07:51.400 to? Well, I go to a mega church of 2,000 people, you know, with laser lights and fog machines,

01:07:58.280 and they preach sermons about how we should support Israel. Or on the other end. Oh, okay, 0.77

01:08:03.980 you can't find a truly biblically righteous woman there? 1.00

01:08:09.600 Of course you can't. 1.00

01:08:11.200 Of course you can't. 1.00

01:08:12.380 You want to find a biblical, qualified, single woman? 1.00

01:08:16.800 You're going to have to move and go to a church like ours. 1.00

01:08:19.480 Yeah, 2,000 or sometimes 20. 0.82

01:08:21.260 It's like, I can't find any women in my church.

01:08:22.800 Oh, tell me about your church, how many people attend, how many families.

01:08:25.860 Well, it's two families, and it's 20 people, and God bless.

01:08:29.120 Sometimes those are some of the most faithful churches with dear old saints.

01:08:32.240 But if you're a young man looking to be married

01:08:33.600 and there are literally no eligible women in your church, 0.99

01:08:36.580 perfectly valid, perfectly permissible to say, 0.65

01:08:38.900 I'm going to a bigger church,

01:08:40.340 a church maybe I'm not fully aligned with.

01:08:41.940 I may be Presbyterian in conviction,

01:08:43.880 but there's a church of 600 salt-of-the-earth Baptists

01:08:46.560 full of homeschooled families down the street.

01:08:49.540 Not personally Baptist, not by conviction,

01:08:51.200 but you know what?

01:08:52.220 This actually matters.

01:08:53.620 Life is not just having the most pure doctrine possible

01:08:57.020 at all stages and all times

01:08:58.780 and attending the best church you possibly could.

01:09:00.940 hey in this time in this season this part of life yep i'm going to go to this church and find a

01:09:05.040 spouse and in time probably bring her back we'll join a more faithful church like this 1.00

01:09:08.740 but practically recognizing i've got to be where women are i need to go to singles mixers that's a

01:09:13.940 big thing some of these are out of state like there's i think dallas has held a couple bigger 0.65

01:09:17.500 ones well i live in kansas i live in oklahoma make the drive make the drive to a chiffin church

01:09:22.840 make the drive to a singles maker mixer make the drive to a conference these are some of the

01:09:26.700 things you're going to have to do no one's coming to save you you're absolutely right uh right now

01:09:30.640 um if you're listening to the broadcast live um youtube we are being informed is down and so um

01:09:39.700 do us a favor hang with us and the way to do that is you're going to have to transfer over to x

01:09:44.620 so if you're watching on youtube you need to hop on over at at x and the handle is at right response

01:09:51.840 m as in ministries at right response m as in ministries now i'm aware logically if youtube

01:09:57.600 truly is down and everyone on youtube can't hear me telling them to go to x and the only people who

01:10:03.480 can hear me are those who are already on x and so everything i said makes no sense but i wanted to

01:10:08.620 say it anyways as a demonstration of today's young women all right that's probably not it's probably

01:10:14.900 not us specifically or the topic no amazon web services are having a huge out of this afternoon

01:10:19.720 so rest assured we don't think youtube is kicking us off i don't think so we're okay but uh for now

01:10:25.940 you can't get it on youtube you can't get it on youtube okay uh let's go ahead and go to our last

01:10:31.160 commercial break and um again the the men and women that piece of the discussion was that that

01:10:37.840 was worth its weight in gold so if you haven't seen the interview of nick fuentes on tucker carlson

01:10:42.280 um i think it was like the second half of the interview uh if if nothing else it's worth it

01:10:48.100 from that because i think it it was a great demonstration of tucker again not trying to

01:10:51.760 disparage him i think tucker is the best he represents one of the best of his generation

01:10:57.560 and yet still out of touch i mean he really is the best he doesn't say oh i'm a feminist

01:11:03.400 he says feminism is bad i'm patriarchal yeah and then proceeds to say i don't have a clue what

01:11:09.500 young men are experiencing today you know so so my point is i uh tucker we love tucker he

01:11:15.100 represents the best and still for you just to get a glimpse if tucker is wildly out of touch

01:11:20.380 on on this plight of young men as one of the best then that gives you a really good idea of of part

01:11:27.300 of what young men are up against they're up against um a a situation where all of their

01:11:33.520 fathers don't get it and then nick his response he doesn't give necessarily a lot of solutions

01:11:39.320 and so you know channels like ours can be helpful to provide that um but he does give a diagnosis

01:11:45.480 he kind of red pills tucker a little bit and tells him what's up and uh and a lot of nick's

01:11:52.020 diagnosis of the the extreme difficulty that young men are facing today uh was was prescient

01:11:59.320 and right on point and worth tuning in to that episode to watch all right so let's go to our

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01:15:27.360 Alright, well welcome back

01:15:32.080 We're going to hit our super chats

01:15:33.500 Jumping right in, we've got Aiden who sent $10

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01:15:37.420 GA, Aiden says

01:15:38.960 I've been reading Spurgeon's lectures to my students

01:15:41.920 He had such a high view of street preaching

01:15:44.080 But I don't see it today, why?

01:15:46.300 Also, what would you say if pastors don't use social media?

01:15:49.500 I like that last point where he kind of preempts what is a bit of the obvious answer.

01:15:53.880 He knows what we're going to say, yeah.

01:15:55.080 That the public square where people consume information isn't as much the street anymore.

01:15:59.840 You have to think in, so Spurgeon is obviously ministering in England.

01:16:03.800 We've called it that before.

01:16:05.760 Spurgeon's ministering in England.

01:16:07.160 So in England, if you're going out to get food, you're going out to go to a social event,

01:16:12.140 you're going out to go to church, everyone in London,

01:16:14.760 they're coming out into the open. That's where they're hearing people sell. That's where they're

01:16:18.440 hearing people shout about the news. That's where they're seeing people offering different wares.

01:16:23.940 And so street preaching in that context was, it's a little bit of a passing by. So someone's passing

01:16:28.220 by on their way to the market and you're calling out to them, repent for the kingdom of heaven is

01:16:32.560 at hand. People drive nowadays. Sure, in some walkable cities downtown, yeah, you've got a lot

01:16:38.360 of people congregating. And there's great guys that go out and street preach. We don't have

01:16:41.500 anything against that. But practically speaking, where you're going to have the most impact,

01:16:45.740 where you're going to reach the most people, it is going to be on social media because you're

01:16:50.120 going to reach people literally across the entire domain of people that speak your language.

01:16:53.700 I'm sure, Joel, you're not only reaching people with the things that you post in our videos,

01:16:57.700 you're not even just reaching in the United States. You're reaching people that speak English

01:17:01.320 in South America, people that speak English in Europe. And so practically speaking, all right,

01:17:06.000 a minister wants to have the most impact. He wants to get the gospel out. Social media is the best

01:17:10.520 way to do it. In isolated contexts, you can hit hundreds of people, or in its event, like an

01:17:15.960 abortion mill, a place, or an event, street preaching is great. Practically, best impact is

01:17:20.640 going to be social media. Agreed. And so then the second part of that question, also, what do you

01:17:27.300 say of pastors who don't use social media? My answer would be the same as pastors 150 years

01:17:32.400 ago who didn't do street preaching. So my answer would be, could you be a faithful pastor at the

01:17:39.220 time of Spurgeon and shepherd the flock of God that's among you and preach on the Lord's Day and

01:17:45.480 on Wednesday, twice on the Lord's Day, in the morning and the evening and on Wednesday, and go

01:17:50.420 and catechize people in your church and making pastoral visits in your parish and all these

01:17:55.120 kinds of things, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. Could you do all those things

01:17:59.740 faithfully and never street preach and still hear from the Lord, well done, good and faithful

01:18:04.940 servant i would say yes so what i would say what about pastors who don't use social media social

01:18:09.800 media is the equivalent of the public square um you know so i would say uh that there's there's no

01:18:16.680 clear imperative in scripture that says that a minister in addition to preaching on the lord's

01:18:23.280 day in the church must also preach on the street you know multiple times throughout the week i

01:18:28.520 think it's a good and honorable thing to do and ministers used to do it guys like spurgeon back

01:18:33.720 in the day. And so likewise, I'm just going to take that same principle and give its equivalency

01:18:37.860 in today's culture. I would say that pastors who, in addition, not substitution, not at the cost of

01:18:43.760 shepherding the flock, but in addition to shepherding faithfully and preaching faithfully

01:18:47.680 in their local church, those who are preaching on social media through, be it podcast or post

01:18:54.060 on Twitter or whatever it is, or YouTube, I think that's a very commendable, honorable thing to do,

01:18:59.240 but it is not an imperative a clear definitive objective requirement so what do i think about

01:19:07.260 pastors who don't use social media i would say um i think that they're missing an opportunity

01:19:12.460 but i would not say that it's sent okay next question cnrb 1689 i'll interpret here christian

01:19:20.060 nationalist reformed baptist 1689 he sent five dollars thanks so much he said this what is your

01:19:26.120 take on john harris who seems to despise nick fuentes and encourage others to avoid him at all

01:19:31.100 costs what do you think i'll give my thoughts but some of my lately john harris and i have gone back

01:19:40.220 and forth and it's been cordial and like privately or publicly publicly we've had a couple different

01:19:44.620 exchanges and i do think uh some of john's critiques it's frustrating because they're not

01:19:49.340 actually factual and there's something to be said for when someone's saying something but they're

01:19:54.280 not actually sitting down seriously in a context like uh like tucker and nick so they're saying

01:19:59.500 something uh for nick it would be during this portion of the show where he's dealing with super

01:20:03.180 chats so you can take things that people say and there's something there's an argument to be made

01:20:07.480 hey let your yes be yes your no be no there are limits to that like tucker with candace when this

01:20:12.920 whole thing kind of first unfolded when he's like uh well uh you know when he kind of emphatically

01:20:18.000 said right like nick is a fed he's a federal federal op um to go around and get you know

01:20:24.940 stink on our best guys like joe kent like we would say um you don't really know what you're

01:20:32.080 talking about actually um whereas a few weeks later having nick on the show and saying this

01:20:38.000 is why i thought that and i still actually have a problem with some of your strategy in the way

01:20:43.760 that it makes the good guys look bad that's perfectly reasonable so i have a problem i disagree

01:20:49.920 here's my reasoning um that that's perfectly permissible yeah so i would say um tucker 2.0

01:20:57.280 the interview that just happened great tucker 1.0 um he's a fed when it's like he's objectively not

01:21:04.520 a fed right like i mean he comes based on bad information he comes from nothing his dad was

01:21:09.860 like a mailman or something like you know what i mean like um and and nick had a really good

01:21:14.360 response to that and and saying not necessarily objectively that tucker is a fed but just saying

01:21:19.400 nick did a great job of articulating his argument saying look if we want to start calling people

01:21:24.500 feds who has the pedigree who has the origin story that's more conducive with the possibility of

01:21:30.520 being a fed me or tucker whose dad was involved in the cia you know what i mean so like nick i

01:21:36.560 think responded actually really well and i think tucker probably saw that which led to him having

01:21:41.880 nick on the show and and then in tucker's second attempt to voice his concerns it was much better

01:21:48.560 and it does seem like some of the ways that john harris is articulating his concerns are more

01:21:54.100 likened to tucker 1.0 than tucker 2.0 right and this isn't just a single instance of oh i didn't

01:21:59.520 know that he said that but it seems like the bulk of his arguments against nick and then broader

01:22:03.580 are some of the Christian right. They're based on kind of some of it being propaganda, if you're

01:22:07.980 going back to World War II, or just pieces of information that aren't fully there. There are

01:22:12.480 very valid critiques from the right, so not using leftist frame. There are valid critiques to be had

01:22:17.060 from the right. But when you're using, well, this was said, well, if we look at it, that's not

01:22:22.120 actually true. Well, he said he tells young men not to be married. Well, here he is sitting down

01:22:26.120 with Timothy Gordon saying, I encourage young men to be married. They should also not just view

01:22:30.580 marriage is a be-all end-all as if that's going to make them a man they should be well-rounded

01:22:33.820 and mature well here he is saying this well here i'm saying not saying this again those are not

01:22:38.680 actually valid critiques and i want john to be persuasive that's not actually going to persuade

01:22:43.300 people right half truce misinformation misused propaganda you're not going to convince people

01:22:48.140 you're actually going to have the opposite effect you're intending to have so right and i think for

01:22:52.120 you and i it's it's especially not compelling because like i've talked to nick specifically

01:22:58.840 about hey are you encouraging men not to get married so it's not just like oh i did the deep

01:23:05.000 dive and i found this one context where he actually did encourage that or i saw his interview

01:23:08.960 with timothy gordon or like no i've i've talked to the guy i've had several conversations and

01:23:15.320 you know i i've been able to hear exactly what he thinks and what he believes and what he has

01:23:21.740 actually said and so it's just if you're going to critique someone it needs to be true it needs to

01:23:27.740 be true and if it's not um you lose you lose some measure of credibility so we like john harris i

01:23:35.520 love john harris i appreciate john harris john harris has been right um not just on a lot of

01:23:42.320 things but he he was right early he was he was right before a lot of other guys were willing

01:23:48.460 to come out and say it. So, um, I think that he's worthy of respect, worthy of honor. He's a dear

01:23:55.080 brother in Christ. Um, but I think part of the way that he's pushing against someone like Nick

01:24:00.280 and he's pushed, you know, sadly, I'm not, it kind of makes me sad. I'm not happy about it, but

01:24:05.780 over the last few months, he's pushed against me publicly, um, in kind of indirect ways and, um,

01:24:12.660 bums me out. And obviously I disagree with that, but I'm not willing to just take that

01:24:18.040 and then say um and therefore you know john uh john is just an op or john has never done anything

01:24:25.760 good that's just not true and um other people may be willing to throw friendship away uh quickly

01:24:31.300 uh i'm not so let the record state i love john um i think some of his attacks against nick fuentes

01:24:37.980 are unfair i think some of his more indirect subtle attacks against me are not fair but john

01:24:43.500 was courageous john was right he was right about a lot and he was right early and um i'd like to

01:24:49.560 going on public record as far as i'm concerned olive branch held out and we'll see we'll see

01:24:56.560 what the lord does okay good answer mcglone code five dollars thanks mcglone the progressives and 0.99

01:25:03.280 slow progressives liberals and conservatives both think that you're too dumb to think for yourself 0.94

01:25:07.840 that is woke it's true very much so uh we'll take this uh you can't think for yourself nope life was 1.00

01:25:15.260 better you know when we was better is better now with with gay marriage and without gay marriage 0.99

01:25:19.460 we've got this yeah they think you're dumb yeah well said dapper dan he gave us five dollars and 0.98

01:25:25.400 said how do we get walsh and knolls to leave the israeli wire is there any way that we can flood 0.94

01:25:33.520 their system with discontents well i think a lot of people have been honestly i mean i like i i

01:25:39.820 don't know if you can find a single tweet from matt walsh in the last three months that doesn't

01:25:45.780 have at least one or two comments below it saying you work for ben shapiro 200 to be clear seriously

01:25:54.520 leave the daily wire so i i think that they are painfully aware and um and with this don't

01:26:00.300 misunderstand me um i'm not saying they got the message no what i'm saying is um they got the

01:26:06.140 message they still need the message uh patriots don't let up keep doing it um but i'm gonna go

01:26:13.600 i'm just gonna say it same as tucker with fox i can't speak for knolls but walsh with the daily

01:26:20.700 wire um it doesn't take a lot of courage to just say something will happen so i'm gonna put a time

01:26:26.720 on it i'm just gonna go there i'll have egg on my face that's fine i'll just own it if i'm wrong

01:26:31.260 um i think within one year personally i think sooner but within one year i think we see walsh

01:26:38.940 leave um the daily wire and if he leaves he could collab maybe he goes on the tucker carlson network

01:26:45.240 or something like that but i think he probably would be best served just doing what tucker did

01:26:49.460 and setting out on his own and here's the deal daily wire huge hit matt walsh nothing but nothing

01:26:57.840 but upside he will not lose anything and here's the deal the guy's sharp he knows that so i i

01:27:03.140 think it's inevitable it's really a matter of when not if so in the spirit of you know being a little

01:27:08.320 bit more courageous right because to say matt walsh will one day in the next 50 years leave

01:27:13.000 the day like that's that doesn't require any insight or at all so at the risk of being wrong

01:27:18.280 i'm putting my neck out there a little bit and if i'm wrong i'll own it but um i'm going to go

01:27:21.920 ahead and be a little bit more specific just for kicks and giggles i think it's fun to to try to

01:27:25.700 make predictions from time to time i'm going to say within the next year matt walsh will leave

01:27:30.740 the daily wire okay another one from dapper dan five more dollars thank you dapper dan he said

01:27:35.180 conservative women are happy to submit to their rich husbands and raise christian children in a

01:27:41.520 mansion that's true wes any thoughts about that i was going to say there is a lot of truth to that 1.00

01:27:46.320 like a lot of with submission like sure there is feminism but women have to actually trust that

01:27:52.280 the man who has all of the responsibility wives submit to your husbands in everything so what does 0.83

01:27:57.400 everything mean everything he's in charge of everything that that is intimidating and if a

01:28:03.140 woman looks at a man and it's like well he uh he's actually not really good at work and i'm not just

01:28:07.440 talking like layoffs hit like that happens men get laid off that's nothing of their fault women

01:28:11.660 should not lose faith in that but i'm looking at him as he fails in job after job i'm looking at

01:28:16.540 him as he's incompetent in this area i watch other men and they clearly don't think highly of his

01:28:22.380 ability don't think highly of his virtue it is going to be very hard for a woman to submit to

01:28:28.240 a man like that but a man that is providing well he is making money making money is a proxy for

01:28:35.520 providing value he's providing a lot of value to a lot of people and being rewarded for it

01:28:41.060 he's competent he's giving her children she's sheltered in a home that's big and luxurious

01:28:47.000 to be honest yeah that's probably on average easier to submit to it's just it's it's undebatable

01:28:54.180 it's it's it's obviously true right that said just to clarify for west because i know you believe

01:29:00.440 this um neither west or i are saying that all the commandments in scripture for a wife to submit to

01:29:06.320 her husband are conditional upon him being rich exactly so she should do it regardless right it's

01:29:12.820 unconditional love from the husband and unconditional submission from the wife right that's why first

01:29:18.700 peter right you got joel webbin busting out the king jimmy in the middle of an episode here so you

01:29:23.900 know it's going to be good um but that's why uh peter talks about even in the case of of a christian

01:29:29.600 woman being married to an unbelieving husband she should still win him over by arguing with him and

01:29:35.760 showing him that he's a lib no yes win him over by doing what what the most powerful compelling

01:29:42.080 persuasive thing a woman can do keeping her mouth closed i don't like what you just said joel well 1.00

01:29:49.960 then you don't like the word of god um she should win him over without a word let her godliness and

01:29:56.920 her character through her actions and service and submission testify to the goodness of christ 0.60

01:30:03.500 let that be her argument rather than being a nagging woman which the bible also speaks of

01:30:09.320 better for a man to live on the corner of a rooftop than to live with a nagging woman so it is with

01:30:17.320 the sound of a dripping faucet is a nagging woman okay so the bible speaks to these things uh but 0.99

01:30:24.200 but there's one thing you said that i i think pastorally it's just worth emphasizing just a bit

01:30:30.640 you talked about how it really is intimidating, this idea of submission in everything, right?

01:30:38.580 Wives, submit to your husbands in everything. I mean, that's scary, right? Because you're not

01:30:43.240 talking about submit to God in everything. That's already hard, but it shouldn't be scary. You know

01:30:47.820 why submission to God is hard? Because of sin. Do you know why it's not scary or at least shouldn't

01:30:53.120 be scary? Well, because of the absence of sin in the case of God, right? Because God isn't sinful.

01:30:59.720 He doesn't exploit. He doesn't abuse. He'll never lead you astray. He loves you, protects you,

01:31:05.160 provides for you. All his promises in Christ Jesus are yes and amen. He keeps steadfast covenant.

01:31:10.920 He's the same today and yesterday and tomorrow. So submission to God is hard because of our sin

01:31:18.620 nature, but it's not scary because he's good. Submission in everything to your human husband

01:31:26.560 is not just hard, it's also scary, because your husband is not God, and he's a sinner, 0.96

01:31:33.240 saved by grace if he's a Christian, but still a sinner nonetheless. So in this, I think of 1 Peter 0.98

01:31:39.980 chapter 3, it says, likewise ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands, that if any 0.68

01:31:48.740 obey not the word they also may without the word be won by the conversation of their wives while

01:31:59.480 they behold your chaste conversation coupled with fear whose adorning let it not be that outward

01:32:07.240 adorning of plating the hair braided hair and of wearing of gold or of putting on of apparel but

01:32:16.940 let it be the hidden man, the hidden person of the heart in that which is not corruptible. It

01:32:24.080 doesn't perish. Even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, gentle and quiet spirit, which is

01:32:32.200 in the sight of God of great price. For after this manner, in the old time, the holy women also who

01:32:40.280 trusted in God, adorned themselves, being in subjection unto their own husbands, even as Sarah

01:32:47.820 obeyed Abraham, calling him Lord. Sarah calling her husband Lord, whose daughters ye are, look at 0.68

01:32:56.400 this, as long as ye do well, so you act holy, and are not afraid with any amazement. Other

01:33:07.580 translations say, and do not fear anything that is frightening. That last part, why is that included?

01:33:16.360 Think about that for just a moment. So that's everything that I've already articulated. A woman

01:33:19.920 should have not perishable beauty that's fleeting, outward beauty, but rather internal, imperishable

01:33:25.680 beauty, beauty of the heart, her character, that she's godly. She should submit to her husband,

01:33:30.300 even to the extent of being willing to refer to him with honorable, respectable titles like

01:33:35.760 lord lowercase l lord sir is is the equivalency um and be willing to win him over not with a word

01:33:44.920 but with the humble word through her actions the conversation of good work so all those things

01:33:51.140 we've already said but that last piece um she is truly a spiritual daughter of sarah who is a woman

01:33:58.820 of old who is righteous and holy and honorable commendable you are truly her spiritual daughters

01:34:04.980 chips off the old block. If you follow her example, which is what? Submission to your

01:34:10.180 husbands, living a holy life, and this last part honestly feels like it doesn't fit, but it does.

01:34:18.260 The last part is submission, holiness, and courage, not fearing something that would be

01:34:28.400 understandably frightening. Well, what does that have to do with the whole passage? The whole

01:34:33.860 passage is about submission to male headship. So why this last piece in regards to women

01:34:40.540 about courage and not being afraid? Because submission to your sinful fallen husband is

01:34:49.640 fearful. It's scary. So even that, the good news is that God thought about that. That's not a

01:34:57.340 surprise. It's not something that, oh, I didn't calculate for that, right? Oh, I didn't plan for

01:35:02.160 that. No, God knew that calling women, wives specifically, to submit to fallen men, their 0.79

01:35:09.920 husbands specifically, would be an intimidating task. It would be a tall task. And so God encourages

01:35:19.040 them not just to be holy, not just to be humble, gentle, quiet spirit, and submissive, but also to

01:35:25.660 be courageous. Why? Because if they're courageous, their husband, a submission to their husband

01:35:32.180 won't be fearful and he'll never mess up. No. Because if they're courageous, even when submitting

01:35:38.060 to their husband hurts because he is falling, because he does mess up, that even that the Lord

01:35:43.300 would be faithful to reward. So we understand that female submission to male headship is hard,

01:35:50.700 and not only heart but sometimes frightening but more than us understanding it what's most

01:35:56.740 important is that god understands it and he commands it regardless so do it okay i was

01:36:03.640 gonna say it's a corollary too it's easier to submit to a rich man aka a man that is competent

01:36:08.800 has character produces a lot of value uh men also men are to love their wives even if she is the

01:36:15.020 nagging woman from proverbs the command is not relaxed so men have to love their wives whether

01:36:19.960 she is nagging or not. That's right. Now, here's the deal. It is a lot easier to love your wife

01:36:23.940 if she does not nag. So use that corollary to say, oh, that makes a lot of sense. The man's 1.00

01:36:28.340 doing what he's supposed to do. He's providing. He's working hard. He's protecting the family.

01:36:32.500 He's putting a roof over the head. It does objectively, in the human sense, make it easier.

01:36:37.040 A wife is not nagging. She's quiet. She's peaceable. The home is warm. That makes it easier 0.85

01:36:42.060 to love her. I would say those are kind of the corollaries there for men and women.

01:36:45.420 well said okay next all right cnrb 1689 sent another super chat ten dollars all right assimilation

01:36:53.520 means sovereign nations selectively inviting highly skilled individuals to strengthen areas

01:36:59.100 of weakness not allowing unvetted mass migration that displaces the host population agree agree

01:37:05.200 agree yes and amen yes and amen h1b visa people forget skilled labor right it is not you're

01:37:11.680 Raising canes, attendant.

01:37:13.440 It is not janitor work.

01:37:14.940 It is people with skills that should be, 1.00

01:37:17.080 not be able to be filled by Americans. 0.99

01:37:20.400 Translators, bilingual, specialty coding,

01:37:24.040 not millions and millions of people

01:37:25.800 taking jobs for $70,000 a year.

01:37:28.220 Right, yeah.

01:37:28.860 The point of H-1B is not to get cheap labor

01:37:31.540 that Americans could do,

01:37:33.740 but can't afford to do for that price. 0.50

01:37:35.680 The point of H-1B is to get very selective few

01:37:40.760 to fulfill jobs that americans can't actually do um instead we're using it to displace americans

01:37:49.760 simply to get cheap labor so that gdp goes up so that corporations succeed but america and

01:37:56.760 americans fail it's it's absolutely wicked it's wrong okay titus weller now gave us 20 dollars

01:38:03.860 thank you titus it's very generous he said the message was spot on about the plight of young men 0.88

01:38:09.820 i'm not one bit i'm not one uh but my sons and grandsons get it god bless him he's an older man

01:38:18.000 grandsons and he gets it god bless you titus that that means a lot to hear from you so he's saying

01:38:23.120 i'm not a young man but my sons and grandsons they get it um i'll spot you 20 so you can pay

01:38:29.820 for your internet bill uh with next stream i thought he was gonna say next month and i was

01:38:34.520 going to say uh you truly are an older man um you have no idea what internet costs these days

01:38:39.940 but 20 for one stream is probably that's probably about the price to amazon so their servers can

01:38:44.900 actually work they went offline and diwali yeah okay the next feels like the next time you encourage

01:38:49.540 our patrons to give them money to amazon instead of us you're fired here's the deal though we have

01:38:56.220 got to be on air i'm enabling amazon so we have a show that people okay all right you take the

01:39:00.980 next one all right no nuance sent ten dollars in 2025 the year the christian right gatekeepers have

01:39:06.040 been fixated on the dissident right will this continue through the rest of trump's presidency

01:39:10.280 and why are they wasting their efforts in this way i think they are wasting their efforts i do

01:39:15.000 think it ends um that's why we said tucker carlson having nick on signaled the end of gatekeeping

01:39:21.300 as yeah i don't think that was the end because it was a huge backlash people have not they're not

01:39:25.900 getting with the program okay but i i think it signals the end i agree with that statement i

01:39:30.480 don't think it is the end but i think it signals the end if i had to guess i like predictions i've

01:39:34.780 already done one i'll do another um i think it continues through trump's term and in in many

01:39:40.300 ways kind of has the death throes so even heats up seemingly heats up but it's really the death

01:39:46.340 throes um in the 2028 uh campaign and election um but i think i think we really will see like oh

01:39:53.620 wow that's a bygone era and it's truly dead and buried um sometime after 2028 2029 2030 something

01:40:01.520 like that that's fair but i think it's dying so i would say it's dying uh tucker carlson nick

01:40:08.000 fuentes uh kind of marks it's dying and i think 2029 2030 we'll be able to say it's dead that's

01:40:16.000 my my prediction yep i think it'll be a little bit earlier than that i hope i think it's basically

01:40:20.420 useless at this point they're wringing their hands because they lost but there are so many

01:40:24.780 useless people who love useless tactics so i don't know we'll see all right the whole syringe 0.97

01:40:33.280 sent 499 thank you sir thank you ma'am you are spot on regarding men being divorced by their 0.97

01:40:38.760 wives in the church would love to see you have david eddington on to discuss it sure we need to

01:40:43.720 have him on yeah we we've talked back and forth and um he honestly he just because the church is

01:40:49.500 so anemic in this area he's having his day job the main thing that he does outside of writing

01:40:56.400 those kinds of things is uh counseling um with with married couples counseling through them

01:41:02.660 through a difficulty conflict uh trying to save their marriage if they're going through a brutal

01:41:07.380 divorce and so uh most of the time he's i mean he's pretty much just booked constantly wow every

01:41:13.520 day of the week with counseling sessions zoom counseling meetings and so uh so his schedule

01:41:18.700 is actually you know public facing it's not like he's like super well known or big or you know

01:41:24.160 something like that it's not like he's so big we can't get him um i'm probably publicly more

01:41:28.720 recognizable than he is um but just practically in a in an hour by hour daily schedule um he's

01:41:36.140 literally just completely booked uh doing everything he can to save one marriage at a time

01:41:42.200 god bless him so we'll get him eventually he wants to come on the show uh we'll just have to work out

01:41:46.680 the details all right this dude rocks i was missing him earlier on i was like where is he

01:41:51.440 where is he he came in clutch at the end sent five dollars thank you sir he's at late to the

01:41:55.800 stream today and youtube seems broken yes it does you can blame amazon but god bless joel for fun

01:42:01.260 can you steel man council of trent i have an answer but i he asked you steel man um

01:42:07.960 i don't i mean my steel man for it i i won't say specifically council of trent but just

01:42:13.880 catholicism at the time that the council of trent convened um the steel man would be kind of like

01:42:19.920 some of the things that were said um in luther's hearing you know like if you do this if you you

01:42:24.760 know translate the latin vulgate into the vulgar tongue right the common tongue the german and

01:42:29.840 these kinds of things you're going to open up a floodgate of iniquities right you're going to

01:42:33.680 basically uh in your fight against the papacy you're going to make every single man his own

01:42:38.580 pope uh so the way that i would steel man it is saying uh those were some of the concerns and

01:42:43.400 those concerns were right. They were right. Protestantism is like, well, Protestants are 0.80

01:42:48.200 great because it's a sola scriptura. I adhere to sola scriptura. And just for the record, 0.98

01:42:53.880 we said this, you know, just on our last stream, but sola scriptura does not mean that scripture

01:42:57.860 is the only authority. It simply means that it's the highest authority and it's the only

01:43:03.060 infallible authority. But the problem is not so much sola scriptura. The problem that I think

01:43:07.500 many Catholics, if I'm steel manning them, and how they view Sola Scriptura is not so much the

01:43:13.940 scripture, but rather the individual elevating him. So it's not so much elevating the authority

01:43:20.600 of scripture or narrancy of scripture. Their concern with the doctrine of Sola Scriptura

01:43:24.900 is not that it elevates the scripture, but that it elevates each individual man to the

01:43:31.580 the the um the the height of being the infallible and only arbiter or or interpreter of scripture

01:43:41.320 that would be i think one of their big concerns so if i was steel manning trent if i was steel

01:43:47.160 manning catholicism at that time you know 15 6 16th uh century at the time of the reformation

01:43:53.820 i think that was one of their biggest concerns was um you in your quest to defy the pope

01:44:00.980 you are going to create millions of popes and um and yes scripture is sufficient and yes scripture

01:44:09.900 is the word of god and yes it's inerrant our our problem is not with you elevating scripture

01:44:15.640 our problem is with you elevating the individual as the final interpreter of scripture to where

01:44:24.240 there is no human authority now no ecclesiastical human spiritual authority outside of the individual

01:44:30.780 himself that can ever say anything compelling and i would say they nailed it that's what happened

01:44:40.360 yeah that's where we are i still adhere to sola scriptura i'm still a protestant and i think the

01:44:46.420 reformation was absolutely necessary and i will be celebrating both halloween and the reformation

01:44:51.180 on october 31st and everybody who doesn't like it can cope and seeth but that said i do think

01:44:57.120 there were some legitimate concerns and i was asked to steal man all right so hear me that was

01:45:02.260 my steel man okay you want me to steal man luther i can do that okay but to steal man catholicism

01:45:09.520 at the time of luther that's me being as charitable as i can do i think that that's a bit truncated

01:45:14.860 and that there was a little bit more going on besides just that like the fact that they were

01:45:19.160 going around um absolutely exploding the poorest of the poor saying give us your money and your

01:45:24.420 loved ones in purgatory can get out yeah uh-huh i think that too um and i think about you know a

01:45:29.980 hundred other things but if you want me to steal man that that was my best attempt west what do

01:45:34.520 you think yeah uh about a year ago i went through the council of trent is huge this is not just a

01:45:38.700 single document it's funny the reformed the westminster confession you could read it you

01:45:42.160 could sit down you could read the whole thing catholic documents and catholic dogma is so

01:45:46.500 long yeah so the council of trent was years long because it's just deal it just keeps going it's

01:45:50.780 It was years long. It dealt with a number of other topics besides justification.

01:45:55.400 But let me read this quote, actually, from the Council of Trent. It says this,

01:45:58.200 For though no one can be just except he to whom the merits of the passion of our Lord Jesus Christ are communicated,

01:46:04.920 yet this takes place in that justification of the sinner,

01:46:07.700 and by the merits of the most holy passion the charity of God is poured forth by the Holy Ghost

01:46:11.760 in the hearts of those who are justified and inheres in them,

01:46:14.680 the man through Christ Jesus in whom he is engrafted,

01:46:17.480 receives in that justification together with the remission of sins, all those infused at the same

01:46:22.480 times, namely faith, hope, and charity. And it's a little long and a little convoluted, but there's

01:46:27.160 a straw man of Catholicism, and I've asked Catholics this, many of them, where they seem to

01:46:31.540 think, or Protestants think Catholic thinks, they're saved by works. But if you look at Trent,

01:46:36.820 the concern there is not, no, no, no, no, we are not saved by Jesus, we don't need his merits,

01:46:41.180 we don't need his sacrifice for us, we can do it ourselves, we do our good works, we do our

01:46:45.640 the sacraments of the mass. We do our sacraments of confession, the sacraments of penance. We do

01:46:51.080 those things. We're justified before God. If you read Trent and you read the documents, they're

01:46:54.760 not interested in making an argument that man merits salvation by his own merits. What they're

01:46:59.700 interested in to steal man is to say, we don't want to surrender salvation to intellectual

01:47:05.400 assent. The early church, the fathers, they had a huge high view of the church. And so for Luther

01:47:12.220 to come in and say, and here's how man is justified. It relates to God by faith only,

01:47:17.080 privately. The church is there saying, hold on a second, that you could have someone that could

01:47:22.340 intellectually agree, intellectually assent, and live terribly, and have no fruit of it whatsoever,

01:47:27.360 and we can't allow that to happen. So we're going to rebuff you and say, nope, you've got to stick

01:47:32.000 with the church in here. You need Christ. You need his merits. You need his grace. You need his

01:47:35.720 passion, and those are through the sacraments that we offer. So that's what I think they were

01:47:40.220 trying to protect against now protestantism does understand faith is component with works you don't

01:47:46.220 get one without the other so good protestantism guards against that but for catholics especially

01:47:51.440 at the time a good protestant does not give in to cheap grace no a good protestant uh does not

01:47:57.360 give in to just fire insurance a good protestant historic traditional protestant um understands i

01:48:03.380 think all the concerns that trent held at the time you're right works are absolutely necessary

01:48:09.380 to merit salvation no but to evidence faith genuine saving faith that is the empty hand

01:48:16.600 that lays hold of grace that gives salvation so i i think that um a true traditional protestant

01:48:23.320 gets that but you know catholic church was concerned that many would not get that and

01:48:27.760 that grace would be abused and that we would have a cheap grace and again that happened yeah they're

01:48:37.220 right um so in the you know um i think they're wrong in the sense that i really do believe

01:48:44.200 that the bible teaches in forensic righteousness um so them saying no you need christ and you need

01:48:52.820 good works and you need the church i would say hashtag true then when they continue and say

01:48:58.720 and this grace is infused not imputed but infused through sacraments and through these like i say

01:49:05.680 you lost me. Okay, J.D. Peabody, he gave us $5, no comment, just wanted to bless us. Thank you,

01:49:13.400 we appreciate that. And then this dude rocks with a follow-up, one final super chat from him,

01:49:17.900 $10. He said, one of our biggest Protestant elves is the large culling of historical Christian 0.97

01:49:24.600 holidays. What are some of your suggestions for new holidays, or are there any old ones that

01:49:31.520 that you would do, like St. John's Day. I'm not convinced that we need any new ones, and if so,

01:49:37.720 I think it would be exceedingly rare, right? If you're adding new holidays every year, I think

01:49:41.540 that that's a bit ridiculous and unsustainable. If there's a mass consensus among God-fearing

01:49:48.300 Christians to add a holiday once a century or something like that, and it stands the test of

01:49:52.340 time, that's a different story. But for the most part, in terms of moving forward, adding new

01:49:56.360 holidays. I would be less inclined to do that. But redeeming and recovering old holidays that

01:50:02.320 we lost in our kind of overall Protestant despising of tradition, yeah, I would love to

01:50:11.440 see a lot of that corrected. I would love to see Protestants go back and say, you know what, 0.96

01:50:15.400 this actually really was good. And maybe there were some wrong ways of observing this particular

01:50:21.860 holiday um but the holiday in and of itself and what it stands for uh there's actually a lot of

01:50:26.980 good in that and and i kind of already referenced it but i'll use it as an example again all hallows

01:50:31.680 eve all saints day um i think there's there's actually a lot of good there um there are certain

01:50:38.700 ways in which it was practiced by pagans before you know all house eve how do you pronounce it

01:50:44.280 it's like s-a-n-h-e-i-m sanheim or sanheim like not sure it's it's the pagan holiday of like

01:50:51.620 basically leaving out treats for when when the the veil you know the wall between the spirit realm

01:50:57.920 and our realm is is waning and becomes thinnest you know and and so there there will be you know

01:51:04.300 spirits both good and bad and the bad spirits might you know play a trick on you so you leave

01:51:09.200 out treats you know so that they don't play a trick you know that's the pagan version um you

01:51:14.320 know but but the the old christian version um within catholicism all saints day um i think

01:51:21.420 that that's absolutely redeemable and something we can recover um particular ways of observing it

01:51:27.140 by catholics um traditionally in the past um i think you can just say yeah we're not going to

01:51:32.620 observe it that way but the holiday in and of itself is not inherently bad in fact in many ways

01:51:38.760 there's a lot of inherent good and it's something worth recovering so if we're talking about

01:51:42.800 venerating dead saints to the degree of praying to them or asking for them to pray for us

01:51:50.960 and and venerating you know the classic thin razor thin line between venerating and what

01:51:58.340 really for all intents and purposes appears to be worship then yeah i don't want to you know

01:52:04.000 observe All Hallows' Eve in that sense. I think that that either indulges in idolatry or gets

01:52:10.500 way too close. But if we want to just say All Hallows' Eve, where we remember saints, like

01:52:15.900 St. Patrick's Day, we remember and honor and celebrate in various ways, I just, I don't see,

01:52:22.040 I don't see anything wrong with that. And for us to recover more Christian holidays with taking

01:52:27.960 the the romans approach that paul says each man considers one day like uh but not not um not

01:52:34.560 judging someone and allowing that to to be an area of freedom of conscience some people will

01:52:40.480 view this day as as special as as a holy day and others won't uh so long as we all agree that the

01:52:46.920 lord's day is holy and set aside then all these extra days be it christmas or easter or all

01:52:54.620 Hallows' Eve, I think that those should be on the table for Protestants, and I would encourage many

01:53:00.100 Protestants to embrace it, although I would not say that if they choose not to embrace it, I

01:53:04.620 wouldn't call that sin. So that's my opinion. Thanks for tuning in. We hope that you have been

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