The NXR Podcast - THE LIVESTREAM - What Does The Talmud Teach？

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00:00:26.800 It is commonly assumed that Christianity rests upon the foundation of Judaism.

00:00:33.700 Douglas Murray, best-selling author of The War on the West, recently commented,

00:00:39.060 Western civilization could not survive the destruction of the Jewish state because it

00:00:44.800 would be, among much else, the cutting away of the whole tree that we're on. 1.00

00:00:50.400 Western civilization would die.

00:00:52.680 end quote. It is reasoned that since the Old Testament forms the bedrock that the New Testament

00:00:58.920 and Christ rest upon, that it would be impossible to do away with Judaism without also threatening 0.87

00:01:05.440 the moral, legal, and theological edifice that the Christian West rests on. But inherent in this 0.88

00:01:13.400 assumption is a failure to distinguish what Judaism actually is. Judaism is not just the

00:01:20.040 Old Testament, as if they are only working with the same scriptures and laws that David and the

00:01:25.780 prophets had. Rather, in less than a millennium, from the giving of the law at Mount Sinai,

00:01:31.860 a rabbinic tradition began to develop that cut away at the commands, worship, and reverence

00:01:38.840 due to God. It replaced mercy with loopholes, God's authority with man's tradition,

00:01:45.120 and instead of faith a convoluted legal system meant to trick god into their favor by the time

00:01:53.380 of jesus's ministry 1500 years removed from the giving of the law barely anything resembling

00:02:00.060 true religion and worship remained so today we are unpacking the source of these rabbinic

00:02:07.120 teachings the talmud what does it say what does it actually teach what relation does it have

00:02:14.500 with the lives of the patriarchs, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

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00:02:53.060 All right, we are back. We're talking about the Talmud, right?

00:02:56.880 It's a day that ends and why? What else would we be talking about? 0.79

00:03:01.120 So Wes, you've outlined this episode. I'm going to let you kick it off and frame it up,

00:03:04.640 but it is important. That cold open, I hope that the listeners were paying attention because that

00:03:09.120 is a common misconception people think that uh they think that judaism is half of christianity

00:03:14.640 right but the reality is that judaism is not half of something true uh but but rather it's it's a

00:03:21.120 whole perverted system it's not just christianity minus the new testament old testament alone uh but 0.97

00:03:27.680 in many ways we could say that the new testament is the lens uh that ultimately is resting upon

00:03:33.520 the Old Testament. There was one, you know, a Christian Old Testament scholar who said

00:03:38.260 that the Old Testament is a richly furnished room that can only truly be appreciated and viewed

00:03:46.020 properly in the light of the New Testament. The New Testament is the light that illuminates the

00:03:52.740 Old Testament, that makes sense of it, so that we can see all the treasures, you know, that are

00:03:56.900 placed throughout um but but judaism has its own new testament um in a sense and its new testament

00:04:04.560 is the talmud and so the same way that for us uh the new testament right we're not uh marcian

00:04:11.180 where the new testament illuminates the old and there's a cohesive thread between the two they're

00:04:16.860 not in contradiction to one another well the talmud is you know functions for the modern jew 0.96

00:04:22.600 to distort and pervert the Old Testament. So it's not just that they have half of Christianity, 1.00

00:04:28.760 the Old Testament, they have none of Christianity because the Old Testament, even that, the Torah, 0.86

00:04:33.600 which they do have, has been so perverted and undermined by the Talmud that when you're done 0.76

00:04:40.160 with it, there's nothing left. Yeah, absolutely. I wanted to dive into this topic because 0.94

00:04:44.960 I almost feel like there's no book that's single-handedly, in one sense, for one,

00:04:49.720 the boogeyman for so many others and then on the other hand there's tons of people that are like

00:04:53.780 this is just another religious text you're kind of like is this full of just nasty teachings and

00:04:58.300 it's you know the zions of the the protocols of the elders of zion some master plan is it all of 1.00

00:05:03.440 this or is it just you've got the bhagavita you've got the quran you've got the bible potato potato

00:05:08.580 they're kind of the same thing and so i really wanted to get in to what it actually is and funny

00:05:13.140 enough uh it was charlie kirk he was on campus and there was a young guy and i you know he's a week

00:05:17.840 into his first red pill and he came up and he actually challenged him on the talmud he challenged 0.92

00:05:22.000 him on some of the stuff we're going to be getting into and to be honest he looked kind of foolish he 0.65

00:05:25.700 just didn't have the information didn't understand what he was dealing with and so we want people to 0.58

00:05:29.480 be informed because when we're informed that we offer the best apologetic for christianity that

00:05:34.220 we can anticipate arguments we can destroy them we say this is why christ is supreme and why this

00:05:39.960 doesn't this doesn't match up and this doesn't work and this argument fails and so we're going

00:05:43.640 dive in uh who knows we might do multiple parts of this there's tons of different uh background

00:05:48.280 tons of history tons that we could dive into but for sure this is going to serve as a foundation

00:05:53.000 for just an understanding what are we dealing with how has this text impacted this people

00:05:57.560 across the last 2 000 years or so and so to your point joel i want to show this diagram

00:06:01.880 nate you can pull up graph number one here this is just a visual way of really looking at and

00:06:07.000 understanding how it is that god has stretched out how he's laid out redemptive history and so

00:06:13.560 you have up top here you have historic christianity adam and eve were the first christians

00:06:20.120 that is to say adam and eve were saved the same way you and i are they're saved by faith by grace

00:06:25.640 through faith in christ adam and eve had faith in jesus they trusted in the one who would come and

00:06:31.000 and crush the serpent. Jesus even says of Abraham later on, Abraham saw my day. Abraham looked

00:06:37.380 forward to Christ. Adam and Eve looked forward to Christ. Moses and Joshua. And so from the very 0.84

00:06:42.260 beginning of time, from the fall, when man eats of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil,

00:06:46.380 and he sins, God has been saving people, and they've always been saved in one way,

00:06:50.740 and that's looking to Christ. Now, in his redemptive plan, he used a particular people.

00:06:56.040 It talks about this early on in Deuteronomy, I believe Deuteronomy 6, that he chose out of all

00:07:00.420 nations of the world. He chose one people and he said, I'm going to set my favor on you. It's not

00:07:04.760 because you're great. If anything, it's because you're pretty bad, but I'm going to set my favor

00:07:07.960 on you and I'm going to use you. The way you could think of it would be like guardrails to work

00:07:12.720 towards the Messiah. So I'm giving you the law. Now, obviously law is written on all of men's

00:07:17.460 hearts, but for Israel and for Moses, he said, I'm going to give you written law. So I'm going to

00:07:21.660 give you the benefit. Romans chapter two, Paul talks about this. I'm going to give you the

00:07:25.300 written law that you're going to have. I'm going to give you prophets that are going to speak on

00:07:28.500 my behalf with the intention of aiming towards Jesus and to the Christ. And the blessing that

00:07:34.120 Israel would have had is they would have been preeminent. It's like if you're your son, just

00:07:39.380 your son, I'm not going to say daughter. If your daughter's in sports, I would say take her out.

00:07:43.380 But if your son, I mean, is just the star quarterback that takes, you know, your Texas

00:07:47.800 Tech football team to the national championship and wins, how much pride would you have? That's

00:07:52.420 my son. That's my last name. And so Israel, out of all the nations in the earth, had the privilege

00:07:57.680 of being chosen to be the recipient, the oracles, the law, the prophets of God. And they were

00:08:02.920 intended when the time was right, that Christ would come and he would be received, that they

00:08:06.920 would welcome him, that he would make atonement for sin. And then they, before all the other

00:08:10.780 peoples of the earth would be preeminent. However, what obviously happened was he came to his own,

00:08:16.520 that is Christ, and they rejected him. They received him not. They crucified the Lord of

00:08:20.840 glory. We've talked about all of this before. And he comes back and visits judgment upon them

00:08:25.020 just a mere couple of decades later at the destruction of the second temple in 70 AD.

00:08:29.800 And so if you look at this timeline, you just have a brief period. It's not the whole time,

00:08:33.160 and it's not from the beginning, but you have a time where Israel is stewarding the guardrails

00:08:37.400 through which God is unfolding his redemptive plan. Now, rabbinic Judaism, it doesn't start

00:08:42.420 with the Pharisees in the first century. It starts a couple hundred years prior during the complicated

00:08:47.120 Alexander the Great, the Hasmonean dynasty, the complicated geopolitical. Like the Maccabees?

00:08:53.040 Getting into some of the Maccabees revolution, that's a revolt against Hellenistic Judaism as 0.74

00:08:57.280 they're caught between kind of the Grecian influence. But along the line, there comes 0.66

00:09:01.280 a rabbinic Judaism. And this rabbinic Judaism, it's not what it was originally intended to be.

00:09:06.520 So God didn't give the law to Moses with the intention that an oral tradition be carried down

00:09:10.560 for hundreds of years that would mar and twist and contort and do all these things. That was

00:09:14.960 never the intention. Rabbinic Judaism is a departure from God's redemptive plan. One of 1.00

00:09:19.880 ways it's commonly seen and that's on the bottom of that graph is that you have the establishment

00:09:24.420 of israel you have the law given and it's kind of seen as christianity is then the new step the plan

00:09:30.240 b that you have modern jews that are in continuity with the old jews and we're waiting for them we're 0.96

00:09:34.840 anticipating we're expecting come join us on this new path that has come forward you've you obeyed 0.94

00:09:40.620 the law you obey the prophets the software update is in guys it's time to jump ship that's not what

00:09:47.160 God intended. That's not how we're to understand it. Rabbinic Judaism is a departure from true

00:09:52.420 religion that God established. Yep, that's helpful. Any questions on that, gentlemen? 1.00

00:09:57.740 No, that's good. People need to see that, I mean, what we're talking about is basic Christian

00:10:03.120 theology for 2,000 years. It's covenant theology that draws continuity from the Old Testament all

00:10:12.820 the way back to adam and eve you know all the way up to present present day that people um there's

00:10:18.120 no plan b it's not as though you know well god uh has you know saved israel you know according to

00:10:24.800 the law and the priestly sacrificial system and he had you know plan a and then he created plan b

00:10:29.580 for the gentiles and that's christianity they'll be saved through jesus and jews you know they'll

00:10:33.940 be saved on their on their own you know a plan you know uh that's that's not the way that it's

00:10:39.100 work. People have only ever been saved one way, which is by looking to Christ. Those Old Testament

00:10:44.540 saints were looking forward to Christ through all the prophecies that were given. And the first of

00:10:49.400 those prophecies was given to our first parents all the way back in the Garden of Eden, to Adam

00:10:53.440 and Eve after they had sinned, that God came. And even as he was dealing out judgment, he gave the

00:11:00.640 first picture of the gospel and saying that he would put enmity between the serpent and its

00:11:06.140 offspring and the woman and hers, and to the point where the serpent would bruise the heel of the

00:11:12.560 woman's son, of her offspring, but that he would ultimately crush his head. And so Adam and Eve had

00:11:18.100 faith. They had faith in the promised seed that would eventually come, that would be bruised,

00:11:24.980 his heel bruised by the serpent, but would ultimately redeem Adam and Eve from the curse of

00:11:30.960 sin and from the serpent by crushing his head. In other words, Adam and Eve, who were they

00:11:38.020 trusting in? Who was the object of their faith? Jesus. They looked forward to Jesus, and you have

00:11:44.240 more prophecies given to Abraham, and then Moses, and then Isaiah, you know, and Jeremiah. And so

00:11:49.720 all of these Old Testament saints, they were saved by grace alone, through faith alone, in Christ

00:11:55.480 alone, and it really is in Christ. They're looking forward to Christ, and you and I, we're looking

00:12:01.420 back to Christ, but the center of everything is the cross. It is the gospel. It is the person and

00:12:06.660 work of Jesus, and saints have always been saved one way, whether they're Old Testament saints or

00:12:12.160 New Testament saints, either looking forward or looking back, but it's all by grace, not by works.

00:12:17.540 It's all through faith, and it's all in the person and work of Jesus Christ, and any departure from

00:12:22.780 that is well it's just that a departure so judaism is the departure judaism is the detour not

00:12:31.080 christianity yep i'm going to read this history it sums it up really well so where do we get the

00:12:37.240 talmud then so we have torah we have the law we have the prophets we have the other there's three

00:12:42.300 distinctions in the tanakh they call it the tanakh obviously we call it the old testament

00:12:46.000 because we anticipate a new but for jews it is the tanakh the writings the sacred scriptures

00:12:51.740 and I'm going to read this description of how in that time period, about 400 BC before Christ

00:12:57.300 into the first couple hundred years of AD, the rule of Christ, how this transitioned.

00:13:03.520 The oral Torah, so this is the oral tradition, this is the rabbinic teachings. The oral Torah

00:13:08.260 is an explanation of the Torah. Prior to 425 AD, there was an institution called the Sanhedrin.

00:13:14.500 The Sanhedrin had the ability to interpret the Torah, resolve legal and halakhic disputes,

00:13:19.580 that stands for law, and make Jewish rulings. The authority of the Sanhedrin rests in several

00:13:23.800 verses which say to establish courts as well as listen to them. After the destruction of the

00:13:28.660 second temples, this is 70 AD, however, as well as the defeat of the Bar Kokhba revolution,

00:13:34.120 an ensuing scattering massacre and general expulsion that befell the Jews of the time,

00:13:38.420 it became much, much harder to remember the oral Torah. This is the oral tradition that they'd kept

00:13:43.360 for hundreds of years. After the destruction in 70 AD, the Sanhedrin began to lose some aspects

00:13:48.880 of their authority, gradually losing more and more of their power until 400 AD when it eventually

00:13:53.620 ended. You'll remember Jesus sparring with the Sanhedrin during his time. The Pharisees were a

00:13:58.500 little bit more religious. The Sanhedrin were very much so comfortable with Jewish or Roman rule. So

00:14:03.440 you had the revolts, the zealots, they were the revolutionaries. You had the Pharisees kind of on

00:14:07.680 the religious side, the Sanhedrin, they were going along. Well, the Pharisees, weren't they the ones

00:14:12.400 who, you know, Paul even turns, you know, he kind of gets out of the pickle by, you know, sparking a

00:14:17.660 fierce debate between the sadducees and the pharisees and the pharisees believed in a bodily

00:14:22.320 resurrection of the dead where the sadducees didn't and the sanhedrin the sanhedrin correct

00:14:27.960 me if i'm wrong but i think it was there were some pharisees who sat on the sand the sanhedrin

00:14:33.180 was almost like equivalent to it was religious but it was also um civil it was like this combination

00:14:38.940 of both religious and civil power it would be yeah it would be the equivalent of the supreme

00:14:43.480 court in a theocratic, you know, society that's both religious and legislative.

00:14:49.280 Yes.

00:14:49.760 Yep.

00:14:49.940 Exactly.

00:14:50.980 So you have the decline of the Sanhedrin. 0.89

00:14:53.460 Jews are scattered everywhere.

00:14:54.700 There's no temple left, and they're struggling to continue to pass down this oral tradition.

00:14:58.680 In 200 AD, Rabbi Yehuda Hanasi, the head of the declining Sanhedrin at the time, went

00:15:04.560 around and collected as many different traditions as he could.

00:15:08.060 He was the compiler of the Mishnah.

00:15:10.440 The Mishnah.

00:15:11.100 Hold that in your mind. 0.98

00:15:11.720 The goal in his compilation was to standardize the amorphous traditions that were floating around

00:15:16.880 into one standardized corpus of halak, which is law or Jewish law. He collected different things

00:15:22.560 from different contemporary rabbis and incorporated these things into the Mishnah. He did not include

00:15:27.840 everything and specifically only included things which had a stronger justification than others.

00:15:32.800 He did not explicitly say which teaching, which tradition to follow in the Mishnah. So this is

00:15:38.560 important because people will read it and they'll say well this is what the to this is what the

00:15:42.080 talmud teaches not necessarily it's a very convoluted system but a lot of it is just

00:15:47.120 relaying so and so said this and then so and so said this and for rabbi yahudah hanasi he's

00:15:52.480 compiling it all he's doing is he's compiling the back and forth he's not making a commentary on it

00:15:57.360 he's not describing he's not taking sides essentially what the mishnah is is rabbi

00:16:02.720 yahudah saying all of these things are valid anything outside of this is not due to the fact

00:16:07.680 that they couldn't know which tradition to follow both are considered to be valid interpretations

00:16:11.840 of the torah and so it's getting around this problem that a lot of jews had well so-and-so

00:16:15.680 says this but rabbi so-and-so has commentated on this and so they compile a oral tradition

00:16:22.160 detailing all of the different views and part of that gets real quick to jesus and so much of his

00:16:27.200 preaching ministry but especially the sermon on the mount where he will he would say you have

00:16:31.120 heard it said but i tell you and a lot of modern evangelicals with very bad theology um they take

00:16:39.040 that as indicative of uh jesus pitting himself against moses so you have like basically like

00:16:45.280 new testament christianity uh that is somehow in contradiction or opposed to old testament uh

00:16:50.320 christianity so you have grace versus law you know you have uh gospel uh versus you know levitical

00:16:56.400 code you have jesus versus moses you know and they're sparring off and and jesus is of course

00:17:01.480 better and so then therefore you know the ultimate conclusion in the mind of many christian midwits

00:17:06.160 is um the the you know it's it's that marcionite you know conclusion that like andy stanley we

00:17:11.800 should just unhitch from the old testament uh and so now the new testament instead of um instead of

00:17:16.800 illuminating the old actually uh subverts and replaces the old and that's that's not christian

00:17:22.100 that's that's that's bad uh but really what jesus was doing notice that there's there's this one line

00:17:27.340 that reappears again and again throughout the gospel narratives jesus would finish telling a

00:17:31.380 parable he'd finish a sermon and it would often say you know people would marvel at the miracles

00:17:36.340 that he would perform but they also marveled at his preaching and and the text will specifically

00:17:40.660 say at multiple places throughout the gospel narratives they'll say um and they marveled at

00:17:44.920 his teaching because he taught as one who taught with authority and what's meant there you know

00:17:50.460 looked into commentaries on this like well what does it mean he taught with authority does it

00:17:54.460 just mean like the uh the pathos and the passions of the preacher you know that he was just just an

00:18:00.540 incredible order you know that george whitfield george whitfield charles spurgeon you know he's

00:18:05.260 just going at john knox you know like he's he's banging on the pulpit as he's preaching the sermon

00:18:10.140 like uh does he have just you know fantastic illustrations you know like he's like using props

00:18:15.100 in the sermon on the mount like hey go ahead and bring me this and setting up sketches and skits

00:18:19.500 you know like what what does it mean he or or is there something divine that that's actually visible

00:18:24.700 physically visible and manifest um you know he's glowing while while he's preaching you know or

00:18:30.060 the clouds are opening up and there's a sunbeam that's coming down um you know or or the the

00:18:35.180 volume of his voice is being supernaturally amplified or and and the reality is it's none

00:18:39.900 of those things isaiah says there was nothing about his appearance that would cause us to worship

00:18:43.980 him that's what's so significant about the the mount of transfiguration is that's the the only

00:18:48.460 place where where jesus and even then not even with the 12 but just with you know the the inner

00:18:53.400 circle of the three peter james and john takes them up and actually um doesn't replace his human

00:18:58.800 nature with the divine nature the divine nature was always there but it's it's like the veil

00:19:03.100 of the human nature is is temporarily supernaturally lifted so the divine is now

00:19:08.700 shining through and so they see jesus transfigured and and his in his divinity and and they're blown

00:19:15.300 away and even then jesus says don't tell anybody about it until later on when it's uh inscripturated

00:19:20.340 after his crucifixion his resurrection and ascension so my point is this he they marveled

00:19:25.960 because he taught as one who taught with authority they're not marveling because of some uh supernatural

00:19:31.240 divine you know visible miraculous element they are marveling nor because he's just um such a good

00:19:37.920 order they're marveling because all the rabbinic uh sermons and homilies that were given at that

00:19:43.880 time were always a reference, always a piggyback, just a further interpretation or a further tweak

00:19:50.260 or a further development of some other rabbi. Nobody was directly going to Moses. So a rabbi

00:19:55.380 would get up and say, you know, rabbi so-and-so would be preaching a homily, you know, on the

00:20:00.520 Sabbath, the Jewish Sabbath in the synagogue, and he would say, so-and-so says, rabbi so-and-so says,

00:20:06.820 and rabbi so-and-so was commenting on rabbi so-and-so, and he was commenting on this other

00:20:11.480 rabbi and this other rabbi and and building his argument by rabbi to rabbi to rabbi jesus taught

00:20:17.360 as one they marveled he taught as one with authority because he did not appeal to any of

00:20:21.620 the teachers of the law he didn't appeal to anyone within their rabbinical system uh jesus would just

00:20:27.580 would just go straight to the source and he'd be quoting moses and then he's not pitting himself

00:20:32.320 against moses but with continuity perfect continuity he's now exegeting moses he's

00:20:38.240 expositing Moses, illuminating Moses, not disagreeing. And so he would go straight back

00:20:42.900 to the scripture itself, to the prophets, to Moses. And then he would say, and I tell you,

00:20:48.260 and that phrase right there, but I tell you, is not meant to pit gospel against law,

00:20:54.500 grace against law, Jesus against Moses. It's illuminating Moses. But what's so significant

00:20:58.960 about it is everyone else at the time within this rabbinical system would say, so-and-so says,

00:21:05.020 so-and-so says, Jesus would say, I say, I tell you. And so when they marveled because he taught

00:21:11.840 as one with authority, what was so marvelous about that, what was so fascinating and so

00:21:16.900 counter-cultural for the time is that Jesus is actually going straight to the biblical source

00:21:22.960 and then giving his own exegesis as the one who ultimately is responsible for writing the

00:21:28.440 scripture. He is the word incarnate. And he's not appealing to any other rabbinical

00:21:34.360 you know authority or figure in order to make his point he's saying no um no it's the word of god

00:21:39.720 and i'm the word incarnate and this is what it means he's teaching with he's teaching with

00:21:44.500 expertise he's teaching as his own source of authority and not having to appeal to the

00:21:50.320 traditions of men yeah exactly let's hit our first commercial break and then we'll continue this

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00:25:06.860 Welcome back. So continuing on the history, how the Talmud eventually develops, how we get to 0.77

00:25:11.440 where it is you have about 200 AD or so Jews are scattered they're dispersed they don't have a land

00:25:17.080 anymore the Sanhedrin this kind of religious political figure their power is declining they're

00:25:22.140 losing the oral tradition and so someone comes along and he begins to actually write down again

00:25:26.340 not commentary not decisions not here's what we actually teach as Jews but simply recording here's

00:25:32.700 what has been said before kind of like case law well so and so decided this and then this way is

00:25:37.280 what they ruled, etc, etc, etc. And so that's 200 AD, about 200 years, 170 years after the life and

00:25:44.560 ministry of Jesus. And continuing on, the Mishnah, that's that oral tradition, is incredibly important

00:25:50.120 as it is a first in Jewish history that the oral Torah was actually compiled and standardized

00:25:54.940 rather than left amorphous. For many years, the Mishnah was the only thing. However, after the

00:26:00.380 start of the diaspora, there again became the problem where different interpretations of the

00:26:04.620 Mishnah come about. People debated the meaning of the Mishnah as well as how to define things.

00:26:09.420 For example, the Mishnah might say it is forbidden to read outside books. Okay, but what is considered

00:26:14.280 an outside book? Is that a specific list of books or a general category? How do we determine what

00:26:18.640 is and is not? Different answers came about from these questions. Those questions and answers and

00:26:23.380 debates form in large part what is then what we call the Talmud or the Gemara. It is trying to

00:26:30.260 Defying terms, understanding premises, resolving contradictions, and the like.

00:26:35.280 Two different Talmuds come about.

00:26:36.580 This is one that Charlie Kirk hit that young man on.

00:26:38.760 Two different Talmuds come about in these couple hundred years

00:26:41.500 following the compilation of the oral tradition.

00:26:44.060 First is the Jerusalem Talmud.

00:26:45.840 This was published from about 350 to 400 A.D.

00:26:48.580 So this is the earlier one, and this is obviously from Jerusalem.

00:26:52.180 And so it's written from a center of rabbinic thought,

00:26:55.900 and it's influential on the second one that comes after.

00:26:58.760 So you have the Jerusalem Talmud, 350, 400 AD.

00:27:01.400 It's compiled and records the kind of debates outlined that I just talked about.

00:27:05.060 And the answer is given by Jews who were still in Israel mostly.

00:27:07.900 In 500 AD, there comes about another Talmud called the Talmud Bavili, the Babylon Talmud.

00:27:14.120 These are recordings from the Jews who were already in the Exodus.

00:27:16.380 So they're in Babylon at that time, about 500 AD.

00:27:19.360 And modern Jews learn both the Jerusalem and the Babylonian Talmud,

00:27:23.660 although the Babylonian is given more emphasis.

00:27:25.460 And that's typically thought because they were in exile at the time.

00:27:28.240 So it's more relevant to Jews that are in the United States or in Europe

00:27:31.300 that they're exiled the same way Jews in Babylon were when they compiled that Talmud.

00:27:34.320 I think also we don't have a complete record of the Jerusalem Talmud. 1.00

00:27:37.960 Yes, correct.

00:27:38.720 There's little bits of it that are left off.

00:27:40.600 They apparently mostly align.

00:27:43.160 So this would be like we have textual differences or whatever.

00:27:46.340 So apparently there's a lot of agreement, not major differences between the two.

00:27:50.800 So you have two different ones.

00:27:52.640 The authority of the Gemara.

00:27:53.980 so then this is the commentary upon the oral tradition which is then the debates on the actual

00:27:58.460 law of moses the authority of the gemara is also debated and it is of note to mention it took

00:28:02.780 hundreds of years after its publication for everyone to fully accept it like the mishnah

00:28:07.020 potential answer is that because at this point everybody had accepted it tacitly and that gives

00:28:11.580 it power others say there's a very real rabbinic conference that gave it authority so a lot of

00:28:15.980 rabbis got together they said this is the authoritative commentary upon the commentary

00:28:19.820 upon the law, and that's what basically gave it authority. Nate, for anyone watching, you can take

00:28:23.960 a look at this graph. I think this is really helpful to kind of see what's being layered on

00:28:28.380 top of what God originally gave at Sinai. So you have the Tanakh. I mentioned that for Christians,

00:28:34.620 that's the Old Testament, the Old Testament that precedes the New. The Tanakh, you could split it,

00:28:39.200 they split it into three portions. The Pentateuch, that is the law, the first five books of the

00:28:44.020 Bible. Then you have the prophets, and you have the writings. On top of the law, Torah, the

00:28:48.780 Pentateuch, you have that oral tradition that's been passed down. And the Talmud is what is

00:28:53.220 composed of the Mishnah, that's that codified oral tradition, and then the commentary upon that. And

00:28:58.160 then the Talmud itself, there are two different variations of it, the Babylonian Talmud and the

00:29:03.140 Jerusalem Talmud. Very long, something like 5,000 pages in total, long, meandering. Most of the

00:29:09.780 Babylonian one is written in Aramaic, although there's parts of it that are Hebrew in some

00:29:13.500 sources. I think a lot of the Mishnah is actually in Hebrew. So you have different language barriers

00:29:17.820 because Hebrew has no punctuation. It's just sentences upon sentences upon sentences,

00:29:22.540 5,000 pages of it, and that's the Talmud. Do you have a sense of whether or not

00:29:31.180 modern-day rabbinic Judaism refers back to the Old Testament as we have it, or is it more referring

00:29:38.940 primarily to the Talmud? So within the Talmud itself, it does make a lot of—there's graphs

00:29:44.940 out there of like the different references and you'll see this in some portions i'm about to read

00:29:48.780 that they'll frequently have callbacks to the prophets and to zechariah and so most certainly

00:29:53.260 it is true that within talmudic judaism going back and you're asking about today and orthodox

00:29:59.380 within talmudic there is definitely a reference and a type of reliance now however it's very

00:30:04.220 spurious it's very like hmm should the sanhedrin make policy they say well hey here's a psalm that

00:30:09.860 says this like even the written one there's a psalm where one of the rabbis read it and he said

00:30:14.200 I think this is the time.

00:30:15.720 This psalm is the verse I think justifies writing it down,

00:30:18.320 even though it's already been oral.

00:30:20.240 So there certainly is some reliance in the Old Testament

00:30:22.040 within the written tradition leading up to it.

00:30:24.640 As far as actually Orthodox of all the content that I've read,

00:30:28.000 different content I've consumed, I'm about to play a clip

00:30:30.120 from like just a modern practicing Orthodox Jew today. 0.59

00:30:33.260 I have seen very, very, very, very little actual going back

00:30:37.720 to the Old Testament and saying,

00:30:39.820 we do this because this verse in Leviticus.

00:30:42.340 We do this because of this precept in the law, et cetera.

00:30:45.280 I had one other quick question.

00:30:46.900 When the Pharisees were giving their interpretations in the time of Christ,

00:30:52.700 it sounds like what you're saying is their citations of previous rabbis,

00:30:57.380 because that tradition started pre-Christ, right?

00:31:00.380 The oral tradition.

00:31:01.260 A couple hundred years.

00:31:01.900 That would not have been written down yet, right?

00:31:03.920 So they were memorizing that.

00:31:05.500 And the common man would have really had no ability to verify or check 0.88

00:31:10.920 or even learn those things apart from sitting under some rabbi and devoting your life to 0.66

00:31:15.560 learning the oral tradition. Is that right? Yep. That's absolutely correct. It's a huge

00:31:18.880 change in Jewish theology when a couple hundred years after the dispersed, after the end of the

00:31:23.680 temple, when they're literally like, we're losing the oral tradition. We're forgetting it. If people

00:31:27.960 are coming up, it's like telephone, you know, like across a hundred years, we thought we had this.

00:31:31.860 And then there's two different conflicting ones, but exactly to your point, you would have Torah.

00:31:36.400 Certainly that would be written. But then the oral tradition was memorized. I literally like

00:31:40.080 these rabbis these Pharisees they're memorizing it and they're trying to pass it down but no one

00:31:45.020 else had access to that you'd have to be a teacher to have access to the authoritative inspiration

00:31:49.780 and commentary and explanation of the law itself let's um if we can let's go ahead and show this

00:31:55.460 video and just give the audience just a little taste just a little just a little taste of modern

00:32:00.840 Judaism um you know the uh the serious ethical question you know questions that they're dealing

00:32:07.940 with in our time today yes so this is there's tons of pages out there like this this is not like i

00:32:13.700 was you know cherry pick i don't have an axe you know and i'm in the mines like digging like where

00:32:18.180 is this like this is stuff you'll just run across organically there's a big page i think it's like

00:32:21.700 moses and zipporah where she asks him i'm an orthodox jew how do i turn lights on sabbath and

00:32:27.140 they actually like well actually the light has to stay on what you can do is you can turn something

00:32:31.300 so it reveals the light or turn it like this so it turns off there's sabbath mode so the oven's

00:32:36.020 always on so there's lots of pages like that this is one of the ones that's very academic very so

00:32:42.100 and so said so but this is a homily on sabbath right this is not this is a question and answer

00:32:47.780 okay so we're gonna play a question and answer uh based on i think it's passover and then sabbath

00:32:51.940 because this year literally this year 2025 right sabbath and passover fell in the same thing so

00:32:56.820 it's huge questions what do i do with the meal the bread what time this set of the other so we'll

00:33:01.060 We'll play this clip.

00:33:31.060 corn, you shouldn't eat after that time. And same is true for egg matzah.

00:33:35.540 There's a regular matzah, there's a prohibition of eating matzah on Erev Pesach.

00:33:39.220 Some include that night before as well. Some permit eating it on Friday night.

00:33:43.300 Certainly all agree that on Erev Pesach, one may not eat matzah until the Seder.

00:33:47.460 If a person's eating bread, they have to make sure to finish the bread by 1020 or 1040,

00:33:52.580 depending on which time they go with. They can continue eating the meal afterwards,

00:33:56.660 and make a bench later but the bread should be stopped by 10 20 years to because passover

00:34:03.620 falls on sunday you have to stop eating the bread and you have to do it if you're in new york it's

00:34:07.940 10 40. on friday on friday yeah but 10 20 in other places and some right some would say friday some

00:34:14.180 would say otherwise there's more videos i didn't dialogue them but one question was like i have to

00:34:18.900 say a brocca a blessing upon a bottled water so i take a bottle of water does the brocca last

00:34:24.180 throughout the day if i take the bottle i take it to work you have to do a new one in your car you

00:34:27.860 go to work with your water so you fill up a water you say a prayer over it a blessing over it you

00:34:31.380 take the bottle you put it in your car and you go to work well is it the same water bottle and so

00:34:36.420 scholars have debated this some would say you've 40 minutes so as long as you're taking a sip every

00:34:40.740 40 minutes it's the same drink it's been blessed it's been blessed that's about takes about the

00:34:45.700 time it takes to digest so if it's longer you might have to say an additional brocca

00:34:50.020 over it and i mean to infinity like like meat and cheese uh some homes we were talking about this

00:34:56.340 earlier they have two sinks so that they're going to wash dairy dishes and meat dishes because dairy

00:35:01.060 and meat can't make you can't boil a kid in its mother's milk exactly and what that comes in is

00:35:04.980 if you wash with cold water you actually mix them but you wash with cold water well you're okay but

00:35:09.220 if you wash with hot water and some of the food from the top plate that had the meat got down to

00:35:13.780 the dairy it might get cooked and get dairy and then you have to go to your rabbi and it's just

00:35:18.340 layers upon layers upon layers upon layers in new york city don't they have like cables that run

00:35:23.940 like or like as a border around the city so so that they're able to move about in the city and

00:35:29.540 so certain enclosed spaces you can do different things on sabbath shavos and so in new york city

00:35:35.140 there's lots of jews that live there there's a wire encircling a huge portion of manhattan

00:35:39.940 so then that space technically counts as inside your home and i've seen videos too where some of

00:35:44.980 them will say a stroller can technically count as inside your home. So different things that you can

00:35:49.060 do if you put your hands in and work your phone in your stroller versus have them out. And then

00:35:53.060 same thing for you, New York. Normally, if you're outside of your home, you can't do X or Y or Z.

00:35:58.500 But technically, because you're in your home, you can use transportation or an elevator or this or

00:36:03.380 that or the other. And I have a I have a point to all of this. I I was talking to Michael before

00:36:10.660 we started but um there's a reason i think when jesus shows up on the scene it's not as though 0.99

00:36:15.060 he shows up and it's like all right what's the threat now it doesn't appear to be islam you

00:36:19.300 know we've got we've got 500 years till muhammad crawls out of a cave it doesn't appear to be 0.94

00:36:24.180 you know buddhism looks like the threat here is pharisaicalism let's have at it i guess this is 0.93

00:36:30.100 what we're dealing with in our time i think there's a real perpetual threat a real threat to

00:36:34.660 true religion is the self-righteousness and the self-justification that continually falls back on

00:36:40.340 well i did this and so-and-so said this and i'm not really to blame and i did my part the greatest

00:36:46.580 threat to true religion to true worship of god is a lack of faith and instead of saying i'm

00:36:51.300 trusting in christ i'm trusting in god i'm not going to to justify myself not going to explain

00:36:56.900 myself what judaism does and you hear it as they cite their scholars they cite their rabbis

00:37:02.100 as they're trying to build this airtight case no no no no i'm righteous like i think in the 0.71

00:37:07.380 last day you'll have many jews and he'll be cast into judgment they'll be like what gives i kept 0.56

00:37:12.980 every sabbath i stayed inside i didn't boil a kid in his mother's milk i didn't accident why i didn't 0.98

00:37:19.220 see you owe me i behaved i performed i did all of this you owe me for how i did whereas it's true

00:37:28.980 religion and it's true faith that says i mowed nothing and it's grace that has been given to me

00:37:34.340 that i'm actually off the hook and i offer back up that obedience i keep the sabbath we all keep

00:37:39.300 the sabbath now that's sunday resurrection sunday the lord's day but we keep it out of thanks for

00:37:44.020 the day of rest that god has given us and in remembrance of christ not a you owe me for this

00:37:49.140 at the end of the day hey hey i've got 500 sabbaths right that i was good on and that's

00:37:54.820 a real difference between a man-centered religion religion centered on man and a religion towards god

00:38:00.740 right yeah yeah within judaism the sabbath is something you know to keep and uh and it's

00:38:06.740 basically with each passing sabbath you're working you know the god of the universe further and

00:38:10.740 further into your debt by accumulating your moral capital you know by keeping the sabbath and the

00:38:16.660 things you observe and the things that you do the things you accomplish whereas the christian sabbath

00:38:21.380 you know um we we believe and this isn't just some um hangover from you know a sun god you know some

00:38:27.860 false religion. It's also not just some conspiracy from Constantine. But Christians for 2,000 years

00:38:34.900 have practiced the Christian Sabbath on the first day of the week, the Lord's Day, the Christian

00:38:39.580 Sabbath, by virtue of Jesus and his resurrection, that he rose from the dead on the first day of

00:38:45.480 the week and appeared to the apostles. And then a week later, also on Sunday, the first day of the

00:38:50.260 week, he appeared to the apostles again when Thomas was with him. Even the apostle Paul says

00:38:55.040 in one of the Pauline epistles,

00:38:57.360 when you gather together on the first day of the week,

00:39:00.140 that this is the day that you should take an offering.

00:39:03.460 And it's implicit in the text that he's acknowledging,

00:39:07.120 he's just assuming that Christians are gathering together

00:39:10.280 on the first day of the week.

00:39:11.280 And there's something about that gathering that's unique

00:39:13.400 because the apostolic texts say elsewhere

00:39:16.280 that they were daily devoting themselves

00:39:18.380 to the breaking of bread and to prayer

00:39:20.660 and to the apostles' teaching.

00:39:21.960 And so I take that to mean like an organic gathering of Christians.

00:39:25.800 It's not formalized, but that's just that Christians were sticking together and they

00:39:30.980 were spending daily time together in discipleship.

00:39:34.140 So this is, you know, it's two or three families that are getting together.

00:39:36.960 And the breaking of bread in this instance is not a reference to the Lord's Supper or

00:39:41.020 to, you know, the communion meal, but it's more indicative of a potluck.

00:39:45.280 It's Christian hospitality.

00:39:46.720 So there's, you know, two or three families that are getting together on a daily basis,

00:39:49.680 think, you know, for lack of a better phrase, a small group, you know, or a discipleship group.

00:39:53.780 And so that was a daily occurrence, but that's not what Paul's referencing when he talks about

00:39:58.480 this special gathering that's happening on the first day of the week, where they're taking

00:40:01.600 an offering for a church in another location where they were oppressed and persecuted and poor

00:40:06.280 and had need of financial assistance. And so daily, yes, there are individual, organically

00:40:12.240 individual families, a few families that are coming together as discipleship, organic discipleship

00:40:17.020 groups that are not taking the Lord's Supper, but rather just sharing a meal, a potluck,

00:40:21.480 hospitality together, and are talking about theology and doctrine like we do still to

00:40:25.640 this day, you know, with members in our church, getting together on a Tuesday night, having

00:40:30.020 them in our home to share a meal, talking about the Lord, talking about the apostles

00:40:34.840 teaching.

00:40:35.380 We still do this as Christians 2,000 years later, talking about the New Testament, talking

00:40:38.860 about theology, and spending some time together in prayer and sharing a meal together.

00:40:43.420 So that's just basic Christianity, that the saints love being with each other and being in fellowship and relationship and community with one another.

00:40:51.260 But the Apostle Paul, he specifies, and by way of implication, he assumes that there's a special, more formal gathering that's happening on the first day of the week,

00:41:01.220 which happens to be the same day that the Lord Jesus was raised from the dead, and the same day that a week later he appeared to the apostles.

00:41:08.160 And so Jesus, who himself claims to be the Lord of the Sabbath, he doesn't come to abolish or

00:41:13.380 remove the Sabbath, but rather Jesus, who's Lord of the Sabbath, that means he has authority over

00:41:17.760 the Sabbath. Jesus, who is Lord of the Sabbath, does not remove the Sabbath, but rather renews,

00:41:23.180 not removes, but renews the Sabbath from the last day of the week to the first. And all that back

00:41:27.700 to Wesley's gospel presentation that was very good, by the way. There's gospel indicatives

00:41:34.320 baked in even to the Christian Sabbath, being renewed to the first day of the week by virtue

00:41:38.800 of the Lord Jesus and his resurrection. And what those indicatives are, the implications of this,

00:41:44.800 is that under the Old Covenant, the Sabbath came in many ways as a reward for six days of labor.

00:41:53.960 So for the first six days of the week, people are working hard as unto the Lord, and then they

00:41:59.400 are given this privilege and a gift, a reward, in a sense, of six days of work, and now on the

00:42:06.100 seventh, as a response to the six days that are initial of working, now on the seventh they're

00:42:11.980 being rewarded with a day of rest. But under this gospel age in the new covenant, that's reversed

00:42:18.360 and flipped on its head. Now we don't receive the Sabbath, a day of rest, as a reward for our labor,

00:42:24.360 but instead we begin our week, the foundation of the Christian life. The first day of the week now

00:42:30.540 is a day of resting in free grace that's afforded to us by the Lord of the Sabbath,

00:42:35.680 the Lord Jesus himself. And so we have Resurrection Sunday, the Lord's Day, the Christian

00:42:40.320 Sabbath, a day of rest that begins our week rather than finishing it. And so we're not 0.78

00:42:44.980 given rest as a reward for labor, but rather we're from a place of rest. We begin with rest,

00:42:50.660 begin with grace, begin with gospel. And then our labor now is a response of gratitude,

00:42:56.620 not meriting the rest that comes in Christ, but a response of gratitude for the free gift of grace

00:43:03.160 and rest that we receive first. It's 1 John 4, 19. We love, but we do so as a response of gratitude

00:43:10.640 because he first loved us. So it's Christ giving us rest because of his work that's finished. And

00:43:17.340 we begin our week in that. So even a picture of the gospel comes with the Christian Sabbath being 0.96

00:43:22.920 the first day of the week. And so all these things, the difference between Christianity

00:43:28.220 and Judaism is incredibly stark. These aren't two sister religions, parallel religions with

00:43:36.680 overlap and a lot of things that we share in common, Judeo-Christianity. Judeo-Christianity

00:43:42.360 is a false religion. There's no such thing as Judeo-Christianity. That would be like saying 0.65

00:43:47.280 antichrist christianity right judaism is founded on a rejection of jesus and and so to say like oh

00:43:54.240 well you know like the west in america you know was built on antichrist christian christian christian

00:44:00.720 christianity that's i mean that's an oxymoron that's that's preposterous so christianity and

00:44:05.680 judaism are not parallel they don't share things in common they're not sister religions or a set

00:44:10.720 of similar values and virtues, Judaism is wholly opposed and hostile towards Christianity. It is 0.93

00:44:19.120 the reverse, in many cases, the absolute opposite, perversion and reverse of Christianity. It denies 0.97

00:44:25.160 grace. It denies gospel. It denies Christ. And so, yes, as Christians, we do believe, we are

00:44:31.700 Sabbatarian. We believe that there is a Christian Sabbath that's been practiced for 2,000 years,

00:44:35.820 really until recently. All the guys who are anti-Sabbatarian within Christianity, that is a

00:44:41.740 novel position, much like dispensationalism and Zionism, I might add. But that's a novel position 0.59

00:44:47.300 that really didn't exist until really the last century, the last hundred years. But for 1900

00:44:52.220 years running within every single wing of Christian thought, they were Sabbatarian. But even 0.82

00:44:58.160 the Sabbath was directly opposite to the Jewish Sabbath. It's the first day of the week. It's 0.98

00:45:05.100 beginning in gospel and grace and rest, and then working as a response of gratitude for the free

00:45:11.520 grace we've already received, rather than receiving that as a reward because we merited it by our

00:45:16.940 labor. Judaism is a wholly other, not wholly H-O-L-Y, but W-H, it's entirely other religion. 1.00

00:45:27.120 Yeah. Let's hit our last commercial break. We'll be right back. 1.00

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00:48:59.220 to claim your first free bag of coffee today. All right. So I want to get into a couple of 0.98

00:49:06.900 the actual teachings and we'll have to do a full series. All of the different, there's a lot in

00:49:11.200 there. There's 5,000 pages. It's meandering. But I want to isolate one kind of string and stream

00:49:16.940 of thought that runs through Jewish consciousness. And this matters not just for, well, orthodox

00:49:20.980 rabbinic Jews believe this. Like, well, actually, no. This is a thought that's shaped a people for 0.75

00:49:26.400 at least 2,000, if not more years. And that's a very strong sense of narcissism, that we are what

00:49:34.540 matters. I'm going to read a quote here. This is from Al Goldstein. This is the Jewish man that

00:49:38.460 made pornography mainstream in the United States. And he was asked in a book, he said by another

00:49:43.340 Jew, do you believe in God? And Goldstein said, I believe in me. I'm God. Screw God. God is your 0.63

00:49:49.680 need to believe in some super being. I am the super being. I am your God. Admit it. And I'm

00:49:56.220 going to pick up on this in a passage from the Talmud. We're going to play a quick clip here too.

00:49:59.740 This is another rabbi and he's talking about the Jewish people. Listen to what he says.

00:50:04.420 you guys are worshiping one jew that's a mistake you should be worshiping every single one of us

00:50:10.540 because we all die for your sins every single day and that's exactly what's going on here we're all 1.00

00:50:16.540 god's first but we're dying for your sins right now because because the jewish people in the land

00:50:20.900 of israel are the bulwark against the orcs a little self-important don't you think you should

00:50:27.500 be worshiping us yes because we're dying for your we're important the interpretation of isaiah 53

00:50:32.880 Yeah, I've heard this that is the interpretation about the prophecy about Christ. I mean,

00:50:37.440 how do you get around it? The suffering servant, the innocent lamb who by his stripes, we are

00:50:42.480 healed. Do you know what the Jewish interpretation of that passage is? It's Israel. Jews are the

00:50:48.180 suffering servants that we're the ones that are afflicted. We're the ones that are innocent,

00:50:52.580 have all these transgressions laid on us. And we're the ones literally because it can't be

00:50:56.540 about Christ. And obviously, you know, it's not about someone so far in history. Well,

00:51:01.040 who is it who is the suffering servant they literally many of them say us the jews throughout

00:51:05.960 history their perpetual suffering yep i'm going to read a quote this is from uh gittin 57a the

00:51:11.640 william davidson talmud this is one we cite a lot so this is talking about jesus of nazareth and

00:51:17.640 uh obviously now of course believe it or not you know two jews three opinions there's debate over

00:51:23.220 who this actually refers to but i'm going to read it at length because it highlights some of that

00:51:26.520 thing that i just said there and it also you'll see the language in it so i'm going to do my best

00:51:30.600 to kind of self-censor. If you got kids, you know, maybe just for the next two minutes or so,

00:51:35.300 turn the volume down. But this is what it says. So the Gemara relates. This is saying,

00:51:40.080 this is commentary, top of the Mishnah, top of the Torah. The Gemara relates.

00:51:45.740 Onichelos bar Kalinikos, the son of Titus's sister, wanted to convert to Judaism. He went

00:51:50.400 and raised Titus from the grave through necromancy and said to him, who is the most

00:51:53.780 important in that world where you are now? So in the realm of the dead, he's raised Titus through

00:51:58.160 necromancy, who is most important? Titus said to him, the Jewish people. Onkelos answered, should I 0.95

00:52:03.380 then attach myself to them here in this world? Titus said to him, their commandments are numerous

00:52:07.180 and you will not be able to fulfill them. It is best that you do as follows. Go out and battle

00:52:11.940 against them in that world and you will become the chief. As it is written, her adversaries have

00:52:16.080 become chief. Lamentations 1.5, which means anyone who distresses Israel will become the chief. 0.58

00:52:21.760 Onkelos said to him, what is the punishment of a man? A euphemism for Titus himself. So he's saying,

00:52:25.960 what's your punishment, Titus, in the next world? Titus said to him, that which he decreed against

00:52:30.260 himself as he undergoes the following. Every day his ashes are gathered and they judge him and they

00:52:34.980 burn him. They scatter him over the seven seas. Onkelos went and raised Balaam from the grave

00:52:39.400 through necromancy. He said to him, who is most important in that world where you are now, the

00:52:43.260 realm of the dead? Balaam said to him, the Jewish people. Onkelos asked him, should I then attach 0.97

00:52:47.760 myself to them here in this world? Balaam said to him, you shall not seek their peace or their

00:52:51.440 welfare all the days, Deuteronomy 23.7. Onkelos said to him, what is the punishment of that man,

00:52:56.900 Balaam, in the next world? Balaam said to him, he is boiling in, I literally, I'm just, I'm not even

00:53:01.980 going to say the word here, nasty substance as he caused Israel to engage in licentious behavior 0.98

00:53:06.480 with the daughters of Moab. All right, pay attention. Onkelos then went and raised Jesus 0.99

00:53:11.300 the Nazarene from the grave through necromancy. Onkelos said to him, who is the most important 0.59

00:53:16.220 in that world where you are now? He's asked this question three times. Jesus said to him,

00:53:20.740 the Jewish people. Onkelos asked him, should I then attach myself to them in this world?

00:53:25.820 Jesus said to him, their welfare shall you seek, their misfortune you shall not seek.

00:53:29.640 For anyone who touches them, that is the Jewish people, is regarded as if he were touching the 0.88

00:53:34.500 apple of his eye. Onkelos said to him, what is the punishment of that man? And that's a euphemism

00:53:39.040 for Jesus himself. In the next world, Jesus said to him, he is punished with boiling excrement. 0.97

00:53:44.560 As the master said, anyone who mocks the words of the sages will be sentenced to boiling excrement

00:53:49.180 and commentary on this because Jesus mocked the Pharisees. That's also considered to be

00:53:53.840 a reference to him. He mocked the wisdom of the sages. He did this. This is his punishment that

00:53:58.780 he's receiving. As the master said, anyone who mocks the words of the sages will be sentenced

00:54:02.480 to boiling excrement. And this was his sin as he mocked the words of the sages. The Gemara comments,

00:54:07.260 the commentary and the commentary, come and see the difference between the sinners of Israel and 0.81

00:54:10.960 the prophets of the nations of the world. As Balaam, who was a prophet, wished Israel harm, 0.69

00:54:14.700 whereas Jesus the Nazarene was a Jewish sinner sought their well-being. There's minimalist and 0.70

00:54:21.300 maximalist interpretations. Minimalist minimizes all references. This is not about Jesus. This is

00:54:26.740 not about Christianity, because a lot of the Talmud, again, is being compiled as the Christian

00:54:31.040 empire is beginning to be assembled. So some would say this is not in reference whatsoever.

00:54:35.400 I look at it. I say yes. But here's the deal. Does it really literally matter? Let me give one more

00:54:41.580 quote from the Talmud. This is just keep it down if you've got kids. So Ray Ashaya, so another

00:54:50.060 rabbi commentating, raised an objection to the opinion of Ray from the Mishnah. With regard to

00:54:55.240 an adult male who engages in relations with a minor girl less than three years old or a minor

00:55:00.280 boy less than nine years old who engage in relations with an adult woman or a woman who is

00:55:04.660 ruptured by wood or any other foreign object, their marriage contract for each of these women

00:55:08.700 is 200 dinars. This is the statement of Rabbi Mir. And the rabbis say, and it continues on and on

00:55:14.820 and on. And this is the book. This is the book that has shaped Jews for 2000 years. This is the

00:55:21.580 commentary, the meandering, the back and forth. And then you get to Brooklyn. Oh, we found a tunnel

00:55:26.780 and my goodness, there's kid-sized mattresses with stains. This is the ethos, the thought

00:55:34.460 that has shaped them to where they get to they are now they're not our friends they're not our 1.00

00:55:39.420 allies israel is not best buds with us as far as christians go we would say this about muslims we 1.00

00:55:45.240 would say this about buddhists and we say this about hindus jews are our enemy for the sake of 1.00

00:55:49.940 the gospel they are our enemy and they're doing damage to christendom there's lots of enemies to 1.00

00:55:55.600 be fair to christendom but there is one enemy that's done a lot of damage i think the excuse

00:56:02.440 me the the thing to take away from this is the idea that christians have a duty to have a

00:56:17.400 and i'll say differently the idea that christians have been trained to see the jews and judaism

00:56:24.840 in particular as a sibling religion right where where you know i might look very much like my

00:56:34.200 father might look a little bit like my cousin right and so the idea that judaism would be a

00:56:41.000 religion of a family relation a cousin or a brother where there's yeah maybe we don't have

00:56:47.720 the same exact biological father if it's my cousin but there's a family resemblance and a congeniality

00:56:53.880 between the two that ought to be preserved. And the religion of Judaism is, like you say, Wes,

00:57:02.280 it is a complete departure from the Old Testament. And as such, one of the things I was going to 1.00

00:57:08.520 mention earlier is, I think the Apostle Paul, when he wrote Hebrews, he points out over and over and

00:57:15.520 over again that the contrast between what the Christians at that time, who were tempted to go

00:57:22.180 back to judaism we're facing was literally not a contrast between two faiths it was a contrast

00:57:29.940 between faith in christ or reliance on self which god hates right and so the idea that we have a

00:57:39.060 kind of congenial long lost cousin relationship with judaism is this this took me a long time

00:57:47.460 to kind of get through my head as a lot of people um it takes a long time to get through their head

00:57:53.060 as well which is why i'm saying it kind of you know dispassionately but it is something that

00:57:58.160 christians have to realize this is not a family relationship of of we're cousins religiously with

00:58:06.880 the jews it's not that at all big brothers holding out on coming to the amusement park

00:58:11.700 problem saying this um about islam right or or some other religion right we would say this is

00:58:18.260 anathema this is contrary to the gospel at its core right in every single way evangelicals are 0.89

00:58:24.180 perfectly fine uh with recognizing islam as an enemy an enemy of the west an enemy of christianity 0.82

00:58:31.220 um but they're for some reason they always carve out not for some reason i mean 0.94

00:58:37.380 exceptionalism and zionism and right yeah no you're right so there are theological

00:58:41.300 reasons, perversions and false teachings that carve out some kind of subcategory, Christian

00:58:50.120 adjacency for Judaism, where there is no such carve out for Islam. But in addition to that,

00:58:57.320 I also think part of it is also looking at the destruction that has taken place with Islam. So 1.00

00:59:03.460 it's a lot easier for evangelicals to say, well, look at what Muslims are doing in England 0.99

00:59:09.920 you know um with you know r-a-p-e or what they did in spain yeah exactly what they did yeah and

00:59:16.340 you know or like let's look at 9-11 you know i understand that 9-11 is extremely complicated you 0.97

00:59:21.280 know and who actually is the culprit there and who was celebrating what happened well yeah jews

00:59:27.240 were celebrating when it happened um but i'm just saying but for the normie right so i'm not saying

00:59:32.140 this is necessarily exactly my position on 9-11 uh maybe we'll do an episode on that someday but

00:59:37.440 for for the normie evangelical it's like well look at what muslims did you know in our own country

00:59:42.040 you know just you know just a couple decades ago you know and so uh so there's all these you know

00:59:47.320 whether it's spain whether it's england whether it's 9-11 you know it's muslims muslims muslims 0.97

00:59:51.800 and um and and hear me like um i think muslims hate the west i think that muslims hate christianity 0.91

00:59:58.880 you know and there may be some muslim that listens to this and says well i don't that's 0.95

01:00:02.080 that's not true you know that's just um that's just muslim extremist you know that's that's 0.99

01:00:06.860 uh islamic extremism um no that's that's islamic faithfulness yeah you're a bad muslim you're just 0.98

01:00:13.320 a bad muslim that's right that's absolutely you know what america is called in the middle east 1.00

01:00:17.420 it's called the great satan yeah yeah so so are there are there millions and millions of peaceful 0.99

01:00:22.920 muslims yes there are millions and millions of compromised muslims apathetic muslims um half 0.98

01:00:27.960 hearted Muslims. Of course there are. Inconsistent Muslims. Yeah, inconsistent Muslims. So of course 1.00

01:00:32.040 there are peaceful Muslims. There are peaceful Muslims insofar as there are compromised Muslims. 1.00

01:00:37.420 But the Muslims who are extreme are really just faithful to the Islamic text. They're being 1.00

01:00:43.060 faithful to the Quran. They're carrying out jihad. And how do we know? Because Christians have been 1.00

01:00:47.020 willing to take the time to look at what their sacred text says, right? About slaying the infidel 1.00

01:00:52.400 and all these things. So like what we've done, all I'm saying is I'm just simply advocating that 1.00

01:00:57.500 the same process that we've employed when it comes to Islam and taking the time to read the

01:01:03.300 Quran and to see, oh, wow, okay. This is what Christians should be willing to do with the

01:01:08.160 Talmud. This is what we should be willing to do with Judaism. And over the centuries, 0.96

01:01:12.560 there have been various times and places and countries and nations that have done just that,

01:01:17.820 that they've taken the time to actually read what the Talmud says. The Reformers were known for as

01:01:23.380 they wanted to get back to the Scripture, and they were breaking away from Roman Catholicism

01:01:27.900 and the Vulgate, you know, which was, you know, the Septuagint, but kind of twisted into the Latin

01:01:32.340 and perverting, you know, twisting some Scriptures and actually changing what the Bible said as they

01:01:39.160 were trying to get back to the original, you know, manuscripts and text, and they needed to be able

01:01:43.420 to read the Hebrew. You know, they knew Greek, but they needed to be able to read Hebrew, and they

01:01:47.700 were trying to do exegetical work and translating the Bible into the modern tongue. And so they

01:01:52.960 sought out Jewish rabbis to help them towards that end. And there were some Jewish rabbis who

01:01:59.040 were willing to help, but as they taught them how to read and write and speak in Hebrew,

01:02:03.900 eventually some of these Christian theologians went and began to, now knowing how to read Hebrew,

01:02:09.460 they had Jews that were living in their settlements and in their countries and in

01:02:13.100 their societies. And so they were like, hey, well, I'm curious, what did the Jews believe?

01:02:16.780 And so they started, now that they knew how to read in Hebrew, they started reading the Talmud.

01:02:20.540 and there are several occasions that upon learning Hebrew from Jewish rabbis and then reading the 0.94

01:02:26.540 Talmud all of a sudden they decide hey you know what we're going to kick out the Jews we don't

01:02:31.120 we're going to part ways here we're going to part ways yeah like oh my goodness that's in the Talmud 0.50

01:02:34.980 the Talmud says what oh no you guys don't get to live here and and so my point in all this is and

01:02:41.960 I've said it before but I'm going to say it again because I really do think that it's true I'm not 0.54

01:02:45.480 saying it's universally true but I think it's generally true and there is a difference okay

01:02:49.640 not universally every single Jew or every single Muslim for that matter, but a general truth. 1.00

01:02:56.100 All the destruction that you've seen from Islam, you do need, I think you do need to draw a 1.00

01:03:01.660 correlation and at least attach some of that destruction that is the doing of Islam. It is. 1.00

01:03:09.560 So I'm not trying to let, like, let's let Muslims off the hook. No, no, no. They are responsible. 1.00

01:03:14.160 But I would like for you to share some of that moral responsibility with Judaism, not 0.98

01:03:19.060 each and every, universally each and every Jew, but there's an old saying that Islam 0.91

01:03:24.480 is the broom of Judaism.

01:03:26.900 And I think that that saying is, again, not universally for each and every individual 0.99

01:03:30.840 Muslim and each and every individual Jew, but I think it's generally true.

01:03:34.560 And what I mean by that is, in many cases, Jews who have achieved political office and

01:03:39.720 high positions in various Western countries are the ones who statistically vote lockstep. 0.77

01:03:47.680 They vote the most ardently towards poorest wars, open society.

01:03:52.200 8% for Kamala this past election.

01:03:54.160 80% for Kamala this past election.

01:03:56.660 And so it has been, in many cases, in Western Christian countries, or at least previously 0.99

01:04:02.260 Christian countries, it is a bunch of white guys who aren't Jewish who suck. 0.99

01:04:07.980 There's plenty of those. 0.99

01:04:08.820 so we're not saying you know that joe biden yeah joe biden right he's not jewish as far as we know

01:04:13.400 you know i'd be interested to see a 23andme test on joe biden you know but you know but i think

01:04:18.740 there might be you know there could be a little ashkenazi in there but i'm being facetious joe 0.97

01:04:23.100 biden as far as we know is not a jew and yet he absolutely hates christ hates christianity hates 0.83

01:04:27.580 the catholic church which he claims to be a part of um and hates the west and hates america and

01:04:32.160 all of his policies display that uh overtly so i'm not saying it's it's just the jews um i maybe

01:04:38.740 the easiest way i could say is like this um um not all jews are uh sinister uh deceitful uh civil

01:04:48.600 officers in western countries destroying you know the nation um so so when you look if you look to 0.65

01:04:54.740 jews um you would not see every jew is doing this politically to america but if you look to 0.96

01:05:02.580 the civil officers themselves you will find a lot of jews right i'll say that again so you look to 0.70

01:05:08.380 jews a million jews you're not going to find that 50 even 50 of them or even close or even 10 of

01:05:14.700 them are you know sitting in congress if we lump in banking the door okay yeah but the point is

01:05:22.420 you look to jews and you don't find oh it's 50 of jews are um are sitting as civil officers in 0.83

01:05:29.340 america destroying the country but you look to the civil officers in america destroying the country 0.74

01:05:33.360 and you will find a lot of jews and especially if you look per capita and start thinking but 0.90

01:05:40.040 there's only this small percentage of jews that even are here in america oh my goodness but it's

01:05:45.100 this percentage in congress and this percentage and you know and so i think there is a general 0.76

01:05:50.240 not universal but general truth um that islam is the broom of judaism and again what i mean by that 0.83

01:05:56.780 is that Jews often don't do the overt destruction, but they do the subvert destruction. Judaism has 1.00

01:06:05.520 been, this isn't all Jews again, but Judaism has been very subversive. Whereas Islam has been an 1.00

01:06:12.460 overt enemy of Christian Western nations, Judaism has been a subversive enemy. And often what it 1.00

01:06:19.160 does is it doesn't light the city on fire, but it opens the door and holds the door open for the 1.00

01:06:25.060 Muslims who then come in and light the city on fire. And so my point is this, um, both from a 0.98

01:06:30.800 theological standpoint, just like you would read the Quran and say, this is wicked. You should be 0.90

01:06:36.040 able to read the Talmud and say, this is wicked. So theologically, um, uh, Judaism is not Christian 0.98

01:06:41.660 adjacent. It is no closer to Christianity than Islam is. Um, and so theologically on the merits 0.97

01:06:47.800 of the actual sacred text, these are not, um, these are not our, I've read excerpts of both

01:06:53.180 the quran and the talmud the quran is slop it's terrible it's not as bad as the talmud 0.68

01:06:59.160 talmud is much more wicked and in terms of yeah in terms of perversion and also of course its 0.99

01:07:04.180 view of christ right so within islam honors him as a failed prophet exactly so within islam like 0.68

01:07:10.040 jesus is you know he's a decent guy he's a decent guy you know he's not god but he's a decent guy

01:07:15.840 within judaism it's not just that he's not the son of god he's not divine but he's also not a

01:07:20.560 decent guy. And so on the merits of the sacred texts themselves and the theology of Islam and 0.96

01:07:27.380 Judaism, Judaism is no closer to Christianity than Islam, and you can maybe even make an argument

01:07:33.220 that is further away. But I think a lot of evangelicals, you know, still have this fondness

01:07:38.340 for Judaism and Israel that they don't have for Islam. And so getting away from the theological

01:07:45.580 merits but getting to the the experience what have they done um i think that that's that's one

01:07:51.760 of the ways where a lot of modern evangelicals will look to judaism look to israel and say well

01:07:56.300 israel you know as far as we know you know the normie verse israel is not flying planes into

01:08:02.660 you know the two towers you know israel is not um is not trying you know saying death to america

01:08:09.200 you know uh in in their videos like isis you know or something like that um and and that's true 0.96

01:08:14.900 But Israel is in very many ways, and you have to recognize this, they are opening the door to a 0.97

01:08:21.880 third world invasion, to an Islamic invasion. They don't invade, but they open the door for those who 0.99

01:08:28.940 do. And there are direct correlations that you can look through history of, oh man, it was in

01:08:35.900 large part, not exclusively, but in large part, it was Jewish influence that took this Christian 0.52

01:08:42.040 Western nation and made it vulnerable to the Middle East and Islamic powers. And so it's worth 1.00

01:08:49.420 acknowledging. That quote that Islam was the broom of Judaism, that was, by the way, a quote from a 0.64

01:08:56.200 Jewish rabbi. That was not something that Joel made up on the spot. That was a quote from Jewish

01:09:03.520 rabbi david uh tower tower there you go yeah yeah okay well uh you can maybe hear pick up on

01:09:10.880 on the mics here um we've got five little people that um that are very loud namely my people with

01:09:20.120 little hats no no tiny hats not in this family as for me in my house we we love the lord jesus

01:09:25.660 christ um but yeah my my kids are home and uh they're loud and ready to hang out with their

01:09:32.300 dad so wes you outlined the episode this this is going to have to be a series because it's

01:09:36.200 fascinating it's vital it's important there's a lot of deception and just for the record it's not

01:09:41.120 even just like oh we really got to pick on the jews if if if we were living in a time of christendom

01:09:46.860 where the average christian 90 of christians in america we're saying um uh islam is is pretty

01:09:54.200 good yeah it's false but it's pretty good and muslims are our greatest our allies in afghanistan 0.58

01:09:59.280 yeah if that was it then dude we would be we'd be talking about you know we'd be like all right

01:10:03.920 we're gonna have to do a 20-part series on why muslims are not your friends and so so it's not 0.95

01:10:09.640 just uh what we think judaism is so much worse than islam we've already said you know on the 0.84

01:10:15.320 text textual basis uh there is an argument to be made for why um it is just as bad if not worse 1.00

01:10:22.080 um but but the main reason we're doing this is not because we're saying uh jews are worse than 0.94

01:10:27.900 muslims worse than hindus worse than um it's it the large part we're doing this because uh we 0.97

01:10:35.200 think that that's the blind spot in the west we think that that's the average christian's blind 0.99

01:10:39.820 spot i'll connect this to 48 hours ago as of recording this governor greg abbott is threatening

01:10:44.400 to strip the city of san marcos of millions of dollars worth of grants because they're considering

01:10:49.960 the divestiture of 4 million 4.4 million dollars that were in some type of uh israeli defense or

01:10:55.960 whatever they're considering taking that money not investing it in israel there's laws on the

01:11:00.640 books that require that any uh business or state or city that does business with texas has to in

01:11:06.540 writing be clear and promise that they won't divest or boycott israel as you literally have

01:11:11.720 the governor of our state where we live he said anti-israel policies are anti-texas policies

01:11:16.900 right just insane like guys this stuff matters people will be going to prison if you don't

01:11:22.600 start now loud and clear we are americans we are not greater israel we are christians not jews

01:11:30.280 this is where we stand like this stuff matters right it matters for christians this is going to

01:11:34.440 be the fight potentially of our generation i think so yeah it matters for christians it matters

01:11:38.360 theologically it matters for for what's most important uh the ultimate the eternal heaven

01:11:43.800 and hell and what a person believes um but but it also matters politically for our nation um we

01:11:50.040 we're not um america does not exist to shill for israel and and so when you have a governor saying

01:11:56.120 anti-israel policies and he's not talking about the city of san marcus you know held a rally where

01:12:01.160 everyone came out and was saying death to israel we hate jews we hate you no no that's not what

01:12:05.800 he's talking about he's talking about them the city in texas not not an israeli city a city in texas 0.89

01:12:11.880 simply removing from their books foreign aid to israel i think they had a resolution in support

01:12:17.080 of palestine don't love it not great taking the money away resolution in support of palestine

01:12:21.880 but here's the thing they're both foreign nations like so i don't love that either no i like keep

01:12:28.680 the money for texas so yeah you don't need a resolution for palestine um but but that's

01:12:33.240 but that's where we're at is where governors in america in you know allegedly conservative states

01:12:39.960 like ours um are are threatening um using you know financial restraints and and threatening

01:12:47.640 um their their american you know states um if they if they simply don't want to send money to israel

01:12:55.640 and so yeah this this really is i think um one of the premier issues i would put it right i don't

01:13:02.120 think it's the issue like the only issue um but in the same way that like like if you're like man

01:13:08.520 they're talking about jews again um i think put it in the same put zionism in the same category as 0.55

01:13:16.120 feminism so like there are a few staples uh because we think they're widespread problems 0.96

01:13:21.880 we think that feminism is rampant that it's rampant that it's a it's a monster it's it's 1.00

01:13:27.560 it's accumulated so much power um it it influences all of our policies everything that we do it's it's

01:13:35.240 we we just did an episode on um uh on on wednesday where um where we were uh talking about the birth

01:13:42.120 rate like we literally think feminism is killing us it's literally killing us so so i'm not saying

01:13:47.080 that zionism is is even more of a problem than that but but i'm we're saying there are some

01:13:52.040 issues and we think feminism is one of them we think zionism is one of them and there's there's 0.98

01:13:56.840 maybe a few other but there there are a handful of issues that we think are crippling the west 0.85

01:14:02.920 crippling christianity crippling churches which that's what we care about most importantly even

01:14:08.700 more than america is the church of jesus christ and uh and where there's just just an unusual 0.96

01:14:15.160 blind spot an unusual amount of um of ignorance and uh and so those are issues that we're going

01:14:23.200 to talk about a lot i mean how many episodes have we done on masculinity on patriarchy on raising

01:14:29.320 your t levels on and uh and i think that this is not enough not enough we need to do more and this

01:14:35.460 is similar it's similar in the sense that it's uh destructive um that it's demonic that it's um

01:14:41.180 that it's theologically twisting and and and obscuring um but then it's also um uh politically

01:14:47.660 uh it's it's a huge threat to the west and um but then the last piece that i'm trying to draw

01:14:53.900 is also it has an unusual amount for christians of ignorance right right so if everybody was aware

01:15:00.760 of these things which we were all there a few years ago too right so like like during covet

01:15:05.340 yep you know i did a ton of episodes about covet right right because a bunch of people were

01:15:10.660 hoodwinked and so uh so that when you're thinking like well you know well what is there any uh

01:15:16.860 guiding uh factor for what you guys you know choose to emphasize and i would say yeah there

01:15:24.300 is and and it's uh what what is most urgent what is most threatening and uh and where are where is

01:15:31.180 the average christian the most blind right those those are some factors that that that that influence

01:15:37.100 us in determining what we need to probably talk about a lot and this is one of those things so

01:15:42.380 we're not we our promise is we're not going to be unhinged we're not going to be hateful we're not

01:15:46.620 going to be um uh extreme but we are going to say things that according to uh the adl and sadly even

01:15:54.860 according to the average evangelical they will consider it to be hateful and and extreme um but

01:16:00.380 it's not these are basic views uh that that christians have held um for centuries for centuries

01:16:07.740 i mean mo many i won't say most but there have been many christian nations and societies where

01:16:14.060 where they said, we're gonna treat Jews with respect,

01:16:17.740 but they're not allowed to hold public office.

01:16:20.380 Samuel Rutherford.

01:16:21.340 Yeah, Samuel, like we're talking-

01:16:22.820 You don't get to hold office.

01:16:23.700 Yeah, you don't get to hold public office. 1.00

01:16:26.100 We're not going to, there are many Christians

01:16:28.300 that wouldn't allow publicly for there to be a synagogue. 0.91

01:16:31.560 And there's a far cry between that and the final solution.

01:16:36.180 We're not talking about that,

01:16:37.440 but we're talking about our Christian fathers

01:16:39.680 and even our American Christian fathers

01:16:42.180 and the views that they held and all we're saying is maybe they were onto something maybe that maybe

01:16:48.020 they were onto something and uh and so i i think that this is a series worthy uh topic and uh and

01:16:54.740 we hope to um to investigate more of it and get deeper into it in the future so thank you guys

01:17:00.340 for let me end with this i'll just say the biggest tension between the two the christianity is a

01:17:04.580 religion of faith yeah when we stand before god we don't have i did this i performed i kept the law

01:17:10.500 the tradition said we have faith what do i have to offer you told me if i trusted in your son that 0.99

01:17:16.260 you would forgive my sins the jew does not have that and they've been shaped by i have to be 0.95

01:17:21.380 righteous i have to justify myself the christian doesn't have to do that and he rests in faith 0.90

01:17:26.900 and in that regard well said that's a great place to end in that regard i just want to point out

01:17:30.900 and broaden it just a little bit and say uh in that regard um a religion of grace versus a real

01:17:37.620 and faith versus religion of merit and the works and traditions of men that's the difference between

01:17:43.060 christianity and every other every other religion that's the difference between christianity and

01:17:47.060 judaism is the difference between christianity and islam and hinduism that's the difference

01:17:51.060 between christianity and offshoots of christianity like jehovah's witness and mormon um only historic

01:17:57.140 christianity it's the only religion of free grace yep it is and uh and that's the beauty of the

01:18:03.940 the person work of jesus in the gospel so uh if you're not a christian um i implore you and plead

01:18:09.440 with you to put your faith in the lord jesus christ um there's there's only one religion

01:18:14.240 where their god our god um became man instead of instead of just giving a path for man to become

01:18:22.240 as god um god actually became man lived a perfectly righteous life and fulfilled all the law of god

01:18:28.240 for you in your place and then took upon himself your sin and paid for the wages of sin which is

01:18:34.580 death the wrath of god nailed to a tree and then rose again on the third day and is now seated in

01:18:40.000 heaven praying on your behalf interceding for you that more and more grace would be given to you so

01:18:45.900 that you might live a life for him um that's that's the christian faith and there is no other 0.99

01:18:51.360 nothing else is like that and uh judaism will leave you high and dry just like islam just like

01:18:57.800 atheism, just like any other worldview. So trust in Jesus and get plugged into a biblical church 0.95

01:19:04.760 right away. Thanks for tuning in, and we hope to see you again next time.

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