The NXR Podcast - May 14, 2025


THE LIVESTREAM - What Does The Talmud Teach?


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It is commonly assumed that Christianity rests upon the foundation of Judaism, but what is the truth about the Talmud? What does it actually say and how does it relate to the lives of the patriarchs Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob?

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00:00:26.800 It is commonly assumed that Christianity rests upon the foundation of Judaism.
00:00:33.700 Douglas Murray, best-selling author of The War on the West, recently commented,
00:00:39.060 Western civilization could not survive the destruction of the Jewish state because it
00:00:44.800 would be, among much else, the cutting away of the whole tree that we're on. 1.00
00:00:50.400 Western civilization would die.
00:00:52.680 end quote. It is reasoned that since the Old Testament forms the bedrock that the New Testament
00:00:58.920 and Christ rest upon, that it would be impossible to do away with Judaism without also threatening 0.87
00:01:05.440 the moral, legal, and theological edifice that the Christian West rests on. But inherent in this 0.88
00:01:13.400 assumption is a failure to distinguish what Judaism actually is. Judaism is not just the
00:01:20.040 Old Testament, as if they are only working with the same scriptures and laws that David and the
00:01:25.780 prophets had. Rather, in less than a millennium, from the giving of the law at Mount Sinai,
00:01:31.860 a rabbinic tradition began to develop that cut away at the commands, worship, and reverence
00:01:38.840 due to God. It replaced mercy with loopholes, God's authority with man's tradition,
00:01:45.120 and instead of faith a convoluted legal system meant to trick god into their favor by the time
00:01:53.380 of jesus's ministry 1500 years removed from the giving of the law barely anything resembling
00:02:00.060 true religion and worship remained so today we are unpacking the source of these rabbinic
00:02:07.120 teachings the talmud what does it say what does it actually teach what relation does it have
00:02:14.500 with the lives of the patriarchs, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
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00:02:53.060 All right, we are back. We're talking about the Talmud, right?
00:02:56.880 It's a day that ends and why? What else would we be talking about? 0.79
00:03:01.120 So Wes, you've outlined this episode. I'm going to let you kick it off and frame it up,
00:03:04.640 but it is important. That cold open, I hope that the listeners were paying attention because that
00:03:09.120 is a common misconception people think that uh they think that judaism is half of christianity
00:03:14.640 right but the reality is that judaism is not half of something true uh but but rather it's it's a
00:03:21.120 whole perverted system it's not just christianity minus the new testament old testament alone uh but 0.97
00:03:27.680 in many ways we could say that the new testament is the lens uh that ultimately is resting upon
00:03:33.520 the Old Testament. There was one, you know, a Christian Old Testament scholar who said
00:03:38.260 that the Old Testament is a richly furnished room that can only truly be appreciated and viewed
00:03:46.020 properly in the light of the New Testament. The New Testament is the light that illuminates the
00:03:52.740 Old Testament, that makes sense of it, so that we can see all the treasures, you know, that are
00:03:56.900 placed throughout um but but judaism has its own new testament um in a sense and its new testament
00:04:04.560 is the talmud and so the same way that for us uh the new testament right we're not uh marcian
00:04:11.180 where the new testament illuminates the old and there's a cohesive thread between the two they're
00:04:16.860 not in contradiction to one another well the talmud is you know functions for the modern jew 0.96
00:04:22.600 to distort and pervert the Old Testament. So it's not just that they have half of Christianity, 1.00
00:04:28.760 the Old Testament, they have none of Christianity because the Old Testament, even that, the Torah, 0.86
00:04:33.600 which they do have, has been so perverted and undermined by the Talmud that when you're done 0.76
00:04:40.160 with it, there's nothing left. Yeah, absolutely. I wanted to dive into this topic because 0.94
00:04:44.960 I almost feel like there's no book that's single-handedly, in one sense, for one,
00:04:49.720 the boogeyman for so many others and then on the other hand there's tons of people that are like
00:04:53.780 this is just another religious text you're kind of like is this full of just nasty teachings and
00:04:58.300 it's you know the zions of the the protocols of the elders of zion some master plan is it all of 1.00
00:05:03.440 this or is it just you've got the bhagavita you've got the quran you've got the bible potato potato
00:05:08.580 they're kind of the same thing and so i really wanted to get in to what it actually is and funny
00:05:13.140 enough uh it was charlie kirk he was on campus and there was a young guy and i you know he's a week
00:05:17.840 into his first red pill and he came up and he actually challenged him on the talmud he challenged 0.92
00:05:22.000 him on some of the stuff we're going to be getting into and to be honest he looked kind of foolish he 0.65
00:05:25.700 just didn't have the information didn't understand what he was dealing with and so we want people to 0.58
00:05:29.480 be informed because when we're informed that we offer the best apologetic for christianity that
00:05:34.220 we can anticipate arguments we can destroy them we say this is why christ is supreme and why this
00:05:39.960 doesn't this doesn't match up and this doesn't work and this argument fails and so we're going
00:05:43.640 dive in uh who knows we might do multiple parts of this there's tons of different uh background
00:05:48.280 tons of history tons that we could dive into but for sure this is going to serve as a foundation
00:05:53.000 for just an understanding what are we dealing with how has this text impacted this people
00:05:57.560 across the last 2 000 years or so and so to your point joel i want to show this diagram
00:06:01.880 nate you can pull up graph number one here this is just a visual way of really looking at and
00:06:07.000 understanding how it is that god has stretched out how he's laid out redemptive history and so
00:06:13.560 you have up top here you have historic christianity adam and eve were the first christians
00:06:20.120 that is to say adam and eve were saved the same way you and i are they're saved by faith by grace
00:06:25.640 through faith in christ adam and eve had faith in jesus they trusted in the one who would come and
00:06:31.000 and crush the serpent. Jesus even says of Abraham later on, Abraham saw my day. Abraham looked
00:06:37.380 forward to Christ. Adam and Eve looked forward to Christ. Moses and Joshua. And so from the very 0.84
00:06:42.260 beginning of time, from the fall, when man eats of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil,
00:06:46.380 and he sins, God has been saving people, and they've always been saved in one way,
00:06:50.740 and that's looking to Christ. Now, in his redemptive plan, he used a particular people.
00:06:56.040 It talks about this early on in Deuteronomy, I believe Deuteronomy 6, that he chose out of all
00:07:00.420 nations of the world. He chose one people and he said, I'm going to set my favor on you. It's not
00:07:04.760 because you're great. If anything, it's because you're pretty bad, but I'm going to set my favor
00:07:07.960 on you and I'm going to use you. The way you could think of it would be like guardrails to work
00:07:12.720 towards the Messiah. So I'm giving you the law. Now, obviously law is written on all of men's
00:07:17.460 hearts, but for Israel and for Moses, he said, I'm going to give you written law. So I'm going to
00:07:21.660 give you the benefit. Romans chapter two, Paul talks about this. I'm going to give you the
00:07:25.300 written law that you're going to have. I'm going to give you prophets that are going to speak on
00:07:28.500 my behalf with the intention of aiming towards Jesus and to the Christ. And the blessing that
00:07:34.120 Israel would have had is they would have been preeminent. It's like if you're your son, just
00:07:39.380 your son, I'm not going to say daughter. If your daughter's in sports, I would say take her out.
00:07:43.380 But if your son, I mean, is just the star quarterback that takes, you know, your Texas
00:07:47.800 Tech football team to the national championship and wins, how much pride would you have? That's
00:07:52.420 my son. That's my last name. And so Israel, out of all the nations in the earth, had the privilege
00:07:57.680 of being chosen to be the recipient, the oracles, the law, the prophets of God. And they were
00:08:02.920 intended when the time was right, that Christ would come and he would be received, that they
00:08:06.920 would welcome him, that he would make atonement for sin. And then they, before all the other
00:08:10.780 peoples of the earth would be preeminent. However, what obviously happened was he came to his own,
00:08:16.520 that is Christ, and they rejected him. They received him not. They crucified the Lord of
00:08:20.840 glory. We've talked about all of this before. And he comes back and visits judgment upon them
00:08:25.020 just a mere couple of decades later at the destruction of the second temple in 70 AD.
00:08:29.800 And so if you look at this timeline, you just have a brief period. It's not the whole time,
00:08:33.160 and it's not from the beginning, but you have a time where Israel is stewarding the guardrails
00:08:37.400 through which God is unfolding his redemptive plan. Now, rabbinic Judaism, it doesn't start
00:08:42.420 with the Pharisees in the first century. It starts a couple hundred years prior during the complicated
00:08:47.120 Alexander the Great, the Hasmonean dynasty, the complicated geopolitical. Like the Maccabees?
00:08:53.040 Getting into some of the Maccabees revolution, that's a revolt against Hellenistic Judaism as 0.74
00:08:57.280 they're caught between kind of the Grecian influence. But along the line, there comes 0.66
00:09:01.280 a rabbinic Judaism. And this rabbinic Judaism, it's not what it was originally intended to be.
00:09:06.520 So God didn't give the law to Moses with the intention that an oral tradition be carried down
00:09:10.560 for hundreds of years that would mar and twist and contort and do all these things. That was
00:09:14.960 never the intention. Rabbinic Judaism is a departure from God's redemptive plan. One of 1.00
00:09:19.880 ways it's commonly seen and that's on the bottom of that graph is that you have the establishment
00:09:24.420 of israel you have the law given and it's kind of seen as christianity is then the new step the plan
00:09:30.240 b that you have modern jews that are in continuity with the old jews and we're waiting for them we're 0.96
00:09:34.840 anticipating we're expecting come join us on this new path that has come forward you've you obeyed 0.94
00:09:40.620 the law you obey the prophets the software update is in guys it's time to jump ship that's not what
00:09:47.160 God intended. That's not how we're to understand it. Rabbinic Judaism is a departure from true
00:09:52.420 religion that God established. Yep, that's helpful. Any questions on that, gentlemen? 1.00
00:09:57.740 No, that's good. People need to see that, I mean, what we're talking about is basic Christian
00:10:03.120 theology for 2,000 years. It's covenant theology that draws continuity from the Old Testament all
00:10:12.820 the way back to adam and eve you know all the way up to present present day that people um there's
00:10:18.120 no plan b it's not as though you know well god uh has you know saved israel you know according to
00:10:24.800 the law and the priestly sacrificial system and he had you know plan a and then he created plan b
00:10:29.580 for the gentiles and that's christianity they'll be saved through jesus and jews you know they'll
00:10:33.940 be saved on their on their own you know a plan you know uh that's that's not the way that it's
00:10:39.100 work. People have only ever been saved one way, which is by looking to Christ. Those Old Testament
00:10:44.540 saints were looking forward to Christ through all the prophecies that were given. And the first of
00:10:49.400 those prophecies was given to our first parents all the way back in the Garden of Eden, to Adam
00:10:53.440 and Eve after they had sinned, that God came. And even as he was dealing out judgment, he gave the
00:11:00.640 first picture of the gospel and saying that he would put enmity between the serpent and its
00:11:06.140 offspring and the woman and hers, and to the point where the serpent would bruise the heel of the
00:11:12.560 woman's son, of her offspring, but that he would ultimately crush his head. And so Adam and Eve had
00:11:18.100 faith. They had faith in the promised seed that would eventually come, that would be bruised,
00:11:24.980 his heel bruised by the serpent, but would ultimately redeem Adam and Eve from the curse of
00:11:30.960 sin and from the serpent by crushing his head. In other words, Adam and Eve, who were they
00:11:38.020 trusting in? Who was the object of their faith? Jesus. They looked forward to Jesus, and you have
00:11:44.240 more prophecies given to Abraham, and then Moses, and then Isaiah, you know, and Jeremiah. And so
00:11:49.720 all of these Old Testament saints, they were saved by grace alone, through faith alone, in Christ
00:11:55.480 alone, and it really is in Christ. They're looking forward to Christ, and you and I, we're looking
00:12:01.420 back to Christ, but the center of everything is the cross. It is the gospel. It is the person and
00:12:06.660 work of Jesus, and saints have always been saved one way, whether they're Old Testament saints or
00:12:12.160 New Testament saints, either looking forward or looking back, but it's all by grace, not by works.
00:12:17.540 It's all through faith, and it's all in the person and work of Jesus Christ, and any departure from
00:12:22.780 that is well it's just that a departure so judaism is the departure judaism is the detour not
00:12:31.080 christianity yep i'm going to read this history it sums it up really well so where do we get the
00:12:37.240 talmud then so we have torah we have the law we have the prophets we have the other there's three
00:12:42.300 distinctions in the tanakh they call it the tanakh obviously we call it the old testament
00:12:46.000 because we anticipate a new but for jews it is the tanakh the writings the sacred scriptures
00:12:51.740 and I'm going to read this description of how in that time period, about 400 BC before Christ
00:12:57.300 into the first couple hundred years of AD, the rule of Christ, how this transitioned.
00:13:03.520 The oral Torah, so this is the oral tradition, this is the rabbinic teachings. The oral Torah
00:13:08.260 is an explanation of the Torah. Prior to 425 AD, there was an institution called the Sanhedrin.
00:13:14.500 The Sanhedrin had the ability to interpret the Torah, resolve legal and halakhic disputes,
00:13:19.580 that stands for law, and make Jewish rulings. The authority of the Sanhedrin rests in several
00:13:23.800 verses which say to establish courts as well as listen to them. After the destruction of the
00:13:28.660 second temples, this is 70 AD, however, as well as the defeat of the Bar Kokhba revolution,
00:13:34.120 an ensuing scattering massacre and general expulsion that befell the Jews of the time,
00:13:38.420 it became much, much harder to remember the oral Torah. This is the oral tradition that they'd kept
00:13:43.360 for hundreds of years. After the destruction in 70 AD, the Sanhedrin began to lose some aspects
00:13:48.880 of their authority, gradually losing more and more of their power until 400 AD when it eventually
00:13:53.620 ended. You'll remember Jesus sparring with the Sanhedrin during his time. The Pharisees were a
00:13:58.500 little bit more religious. The Sanhedrin were very much so comfortable with Jewish or Roman rule. So
00:14:03.440 you had the revolts, the zealots, they were the revolutionaries. You had the Pharisees kind of on
00:14:07.680 the religious side, the Sanhedrin, they were going along. Well, the Pharisees, weren't they the ones
00:14:12.400 who, you know, Paul even turns, you know, he kind of gets out of the pickle by, you know, sparking a
00:14:17.660 fierce debate between the sadducees and the pharisees and the pharisees believed in a bodily
00:14:22.320 resurrection of the dead where the sadducees didn't and the sanhedrin the sanhedrin correct
00:14:27.960 me if i'm wrong but i think it was there were some pharisees who sat on the sand the sanhedrin
00:14:33.180 was almost like equivalent to it was religious but it was also um civil it was like this combination
00:14:38.940 of both religious and civil power it would be yeah it would be the equivalent of the supreme
00:14:43.480 court in a theocratic, you know, society that's both religious and legislative.
00:14:49.280 Yes.
00:14:49.760 Yep.
00:14:49.940 Exactly.
00:14:50.980 So you have the decline of the Sanhedrin. 0.89
00:14:53.460 Jews are scattered everywhere.
00:14:54.700 There's no temple left, and they're struggling to continue to pass down this oral tradition.
00:14:58.680 In 200 AD, Rabbi Yehuda Hanasi, the head of the declining Sanhedrin at the time, went
00:15:04.560 around and collected as many different traditions as he could.
00:15:08.060 He was the compiler of the Mishnah.
00:15:10.440 The Mishnah.
00:15:11.100 Hold that in your mind. 0.98
00:15:11.720 The goal in his compilation was to standardize the amorphous traditions that were floating around
00:15:16.880 into one standardized corpus of halak, which is law or Jewish law. He collected different things
00:15:22.560 from different contemporary rabbis and incorporated these things into the Mishnah. He did not include
00:15:27.840 everything and specifically only included things which had a stronger justification than others.
00:15:32.800 He did not explicitly say which teaching, which tradition to follow in the Mishnah. So this is
00:15:38.560 important because people will read it and they'll say well this is what the to this is what the
00:15:42.080 talmud teaches not necessarily it's a very convoluted system but a lot of it is just
00:15:47.120 relaying so and so said this and then so and so said this and for rabbi yahudah hanasi he's
00:15:52.480 compiling it all he's doing is he's compiling the back and forth he's not making a commentary on it
00:15:57.360 he's not describing he's not taking sides essentially what the mishnah is is rabbi
00:16:02.720 yahudah saying all of these things are valid anything outside of this is not due to the fact
00:16:07.680 that they couldn't know which tradition to follow both are considered to be valid interpretations
00:16:11.840 of the torah and so it's getting around this problem that a lot of jews had well so-and-so
00:16:15.680 says this but rabbi so-and-so has commentated on this and so they compile a oral tradition
00:16:22.160 detailing all of the different views and part of that gets real quick to jesus and so much of his
00:16:27.200 preaching ministry but especially the sermon on the mount where he will he would say you have
00:16:31.120 heard it said but i tell you and a lot of modern evangelicals with very bad theology um they take
00:16:39.040 that as indicative of uh jesus pitting himself against moses so you have like basically like
00:16:45.280 new testament christianity uh that is somehow in contradiction or opposed to old testament uh
00:16:50.320 christianity so you have grace versus law you know you have uh gospel uh versus you know levitical
00:16:56.400 code you have jesus versus moses you know and they're sparring off and and jesus is of course
00:17:01.480 better and so then therefore you know the ultimate conclusion in the mind of many christian midwits
00:17:06.160 is um the the you know it's it's that marcionite you know conclusion that like andy stanley we
00:17:11.800 should just unhitch from the old testament uh and so now the new testament instead of um instead of
00:17:16.800 illuminating the old actually uh subverts and replaces the old and that's that's not christian
00:17:22.100 that's that's that's bad uh but really what jesus was doing notice that there's there's this one line
00:17:27.340 that reappears again and again throughout the gospel narratives jesus would finish telling a
00:17:31.380 parable he'd finish a sermon and it would often say you know people would marvel at the miracles
00:17:36.340 that he would perform but they also marveled at his preaching and and the text will specifically
00:17:40.660 say at multiple places throughout the gospel narratives they'll say um and they marveled at
00:17:44.920 his teaching because he taught as one who taught with authority and what's meant there you know
00:17:50.460 looked into commentaries on this like well what does it mean he taught with authority does it
00:17:54.460 just mean like the uh the pathos and the passions of the preacher you know that he was just just an
00:18:00.540 incredible order you know that george whitfield george whitfield charles spurgeon you know he's
00:18:05.260 just going at john knox you know like he's he's banging on the pulpit as he's preaching the sermon
00:18:10.140 like uh does he have just you know fantastic illustrations you know like he's like using props
00:18:15.100 in the sermon on the mount like hey go ahead and bring me this and setting up sketches and skits
00:18:19.500 you know like what what does it mean he or or is there something divine that that's actually visible
00:18:24.700 physically visible and manifest um you know he's glowing while while he's preaching you know or
00:18:30.060 the clouds are opening up and there's a sunbeam that's coming down um you know or or the the
00:18:35.180 volume of his voice is being supernaturally amplified or and and the reality is it's none
00:18:39.900 of those things isaiah says there was nothing about his appearance that would cause us to worship
00:18:43.980 him that's what's so significant about the the mount of transfiguration is that's the the only
00:18:48.460 place where where jesus and even then not even with the 12 but just with you know the the inner
00:18:53.400 circle of the three peter james and john takes them up and actually um doesn't replace his human
00:18:58.800 nature with the divine nature the divine nature was always there but it's it's like the veil
00:19:03.100 of the human nature is is temporarily supernaturally lifted so the divine is now
00:19:08.700 shining through and so they see jesus transfigured and and his in his divinity and and they're blown
00:19:15.300 away and even then jesus says don't tell anybody about it until later on when it's uh inscripturated
00:19:20.340 after his crucifixion his resurrection and ascension so my point is this he they marveled
00:19:25.960 because he taught as one who taught with authority they're not marveling because of some uh supernatural
00:19:31.240 divine you know visible miraculous element they are marveling nor because he's just um such a good
00:19:37.920 order they're marveling because all the rabbinic uh sermons and homilies that were given at that
00:19:43.880 time were always a reference, always a piggyback, just a further interpretation or a further tweak
00:19:50.260 or a further development of some other rabbi. Nobody was directly going to Moses. So a rabbi
00:19:55.380 would get up and say, you know, rabbi so-and-so would be preaching a homily, you know, on the
00:20:00.520 Sabbath, the Jewish Sabbath in the synagogue, and he would say, so-and-so says, rabbi so-and-so says,
00:20:06.820 and rabbi so-and-so was commenting on rabbi so-and-so, and he was commenting on this other
00:20:11.480 rabbi and this other rabbi and and building his argument by rabbi to rabbi to rabbi jesus taught
00:20:17.360 as one they marveled he taught as one with authority because he did not appeal to any of
00:20:21.620 the teachers of the law he didn't appeal to anyone within their rabbinical system uh jesus would just
00:20:27.580 would just go straight to the source and he'd be quoting moses and then he's not pitting himself
00:20:32.320 against moses but with continuity perfect continuity he's now exegeting moses he's
00:20:38.240 expositing Moses, illuminating Moses, not disagreeing. And so he would go straight back
00:20:42.900 to the scripture itself, to the prophets, to Moses. And then he would say, and I tell you,
00:20:48.260 and that phrase right there, but I tell you, is not meant to pit gospel against law,
00:20:54.500 grace against law, Jesus against Moses. It's illuminating Moses. But what's so significant
00:20:58.960 about it is everyone else at the time within this rabbinical system would say, so-and-so says,
00:21:05.020 so-and-so says, Jesus would say, I say, I tell you. And so when they marveled because he taught
00:21:11.840 as one with authority, what was so marvelous about that, what was so fascinating and so
00:21:16.900 counter-cultural for the time is that Jesus is actually going straight to the biblical source
00:21:22.960 and then giving his own exegesis as the one who ultimately is responsible for writing the
00:21:28.440 scripture. He is the word incarnate. And he's not appealing to any other rabbinical
00:21:34.360 you know authority or figure in order to make his point he's saying no um no it's the word of god
00:21:39.720 and i'm the word incarnate and this is what it means he's teaching with he's teaching with
00:21:44.500 expertise he's teaching as his own source of authority and not having to appeal to the
00:21:50.320 traditions of men yeah exactly let's hit our first commercial break and then we'll continue this
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00:25:06.860 Welcome back. So continuing on the history, how the Talmud eventually develops, how we get to 0.77
00:25:11.440 where it is you have about 200 AD or so Jews are scattered they're dispersed they don't have a land
00:25:17.080 anymore the Sanhedrin this kind of religious political figure their power is declining they're
00:25:22.140 losing the oral tradition and so someone comes along and he begins to actually write down again
00:25:26.340 not commentary not decisions not here's what we actually teach as Jews but simply recording here's
00:25:32.700 what has been said before kind of like case law well so and so decided this and then this way is
00:25:37.280 what they ruled, etc, etc, etc. And so that's 200 AD, about 200 years, 170 years after the life and
00:25:44.560 ministry of Jesus. And continuing on, the Mishnah, that's that oral tradition, is incredibly important
00:25:50.120 as it is a first in Jewish history that the oral Torah was actually compiled and standardized
00:25:54.940 rather than left amorphous. For many years, the Mishnah was the only thing. However, after the
00:26:00.380 start of the diaspora, there again became the problem where different interpretations of the
00:26:04.620 Mishnah come about. People debated the meaning of the Mishnah as well as how to define things.
00:26:09.420 For example, the Mishnah might say it is forbidden to read outside books. Okay, but what is considered
00:26:14.280 an outside book? Is that a specific list of books or a general category? How do we determine what
00:26:18.640 is and is not? Different answers came about from these questions. Those questions and answers and
00:26:23.380 debates form in large part what is then what we call the Talmud or the Gemara. It is trying to
00:26:30.260 Defying terms, understanding premises, resolving contradictions, and the like.
00:26:35.280 Two different Talmuds come about.
00:26:36.580 This is one that Charlie Kirk hit that young man on.
00:26:38.760 Two different Talmuds come about in these couple hundred years
00:26:41.500 following the compilation of the oral tradition.
00:26:44.060 First is the Jerusalem Talmud.
00:26:45.840 This was published from about 350 to 400 A.D.
00:26:48.580 So this is the earlier one, and this is obviously from Jerusalem.
00:26:52.180 And so it's written from a center of rabbinic thought,
00:26:55.900 and it's influential on the second one that comes after.
00:26:58.760 So you have the Jerusalem Talmud, 350, 400 AD.
00:27:01.400 It's compiled and records the kind of debates outlined that I just talked about.
00:27:05.060 And the answer is given by Jews who were still in Israel mostly.
00:27:07.900 In 500 AD, there comes about another Talmud called the Talmud Bavili, the Babylon Talmud.
00:27:14.120 These are recordings from the Jews who were already in the Exodus.
00:27:16.380 So they're in Babylon at that time, about 500 AD.
00:27:19.360 And modern Jews learn both the Jerusalem and the Babylonian Talmud,
00:27:23.660 although the Babylonian is given more emphasis.
00:27:25.460 And that's typically thought because they were in exile at the time.
00:27:28.240 So it's more relevant to Jews that are in the United States or in Europe
00:27:31.300 that they're exiled the same way Jews in Babylon were when they compiled that Talmud.
00:27:34.320 I think also we don't have a complete record of the Jerusalem Talmud. 1.00
00:27:37.960 Yes, correct.
00:27:38.720 There's little bits of it that are left off.
00:27:40.600 They apparently mostly align.
00:27:43.160 So this would be like we have textual differences or whatever.
00:27:46.340 So apparently there's a lot of agreement, not major differences between the two.
00:27:50.800 So you have two different ones.
00:27:52.640 The authority of the Gemara.
00:27:53.980 so then this is the commentary upon the oral tradition which is then the debates on the actual
00:27:58.460 law of moses the authority of the gemara is also debated and it is of note to mention it took
00:28:02.780 hundreds of years after its publication for everyone to fully accept it like the mishnah
00:28:07.020 potential answer is that because at this point everybody had accepted it tacitly and that gives
00:28:11.580 it power others say there's a very real rabbinic conference that gave it authority so a lot of
00:28:15.980 rabbis got together they said this is the authoritative commentary upon the commentary
00:28:19.820 upon the law, and that's what basically gave it authority. Nate, for anyone watching, you can take
00:28:23.960 a look at this graph. I think this is really helpful to kind of see what's being layered on
00:28:28.380 top of what God originally gave at Sinai. So you have the Tanakh. I mentioned that for Christians,
00:28:34.620 that's the Old Testament, the Old Testament that precedes the New. The Tanakh, you could split it,
00:28:39.200 they split it into three portions. The Pentateuch, that is the law, the first five books of the
00:28:44.020 Bible. Then you have the prophets, and you have the writings. On top of the law, Torah, the
00:28:48.780 Pentateuch, you have that oral tradition that's been passed down. And the Talmud is what is
00:28:53.220 composed of the Mishnah, that's that codified oral tradition, and then the commentary upon that. And
00:28:58.160 then the Talmud itself, there are two different variations of it, the Babylonian Talmud and the
00:29:03.140 Jerusalem Talmud. Very long, something like 5,000 pages in total, long, meandering. Most of the
00:29:09.780 Babylonian one is written in Aramaic, although there's parts of it that are Hebrew in some
00:29:13.500 sources. I think a lot of the Mishnah is actually in Hebrew. So you have different language barriers
00:29:17.820 because Hebrew has no punctuation. It's just sentences upon sentences upon sentences,
00:29:22.540 5,000 pages of it, and that's the Talmud. Do you have a sense of whether or not
00:29:31.180 modern-day rabbinic Judaism refers back to the Old Testament as we have it, or is it more referring
00:29:38.940 primarily to the Talmud? So within the Talmud itself, it does make a lot of—there's graphs
00:29:44.940 out there of like the different references and you'll see this in some portions i'm about to read
00:29:48.780 that they'll frequently have callbacks to the prophets and to zechariah and so most certainly
00:29:53.260 it is true that within talmudic judaism going back and you're asking about today and orthodox
00:29:59.380 within talmudic there is definitely a reference and a type of reliance now however it's very
00:30:04.220 spurious it's very like hmm should the sanhedrin make policy they say well hey here's a psalm that
00:30:09.860 says this like even the written one there's a psalm where one of the rabbis read it and he said
00:30:14.200 I think this is the time.
00:30:15.720 This psalm is the verse I think justifies writing it down,
00:30:18.320 even though it's already been oral.
00:30:20.240 So there certainly is some reliance in the Old Testament
00:30:22.040 within the written tradition leading up to it.
00:30:24.640 As far as actually Orthodox of all the content that I've read,
00:30:28.000 different content I've consumed, I'm about to play a clip
00:30:30.120 from like just a modern practicing Orthodox Jew today. 0.59
00:30:33.260 I have seen very, very, very, very little actual going back
00:30:37.720 to the Old Testament and saying,
00:30:39.820 we do this because this verse in Leviticus.
00:30:42.340 We do this because of this precept in the law, et cetera.
00:30:45.280 I had one other quick question.
00:30:46.900 When the Pharisees were giving their interpretations in the time of Christ,
00:30:52.700 it sounds like what you're saying is their citations of previous rabbis,
00:30:57.380 because that tradition started pre-Christ, right?
00:31:00.380 The oral tradition.
00:31:01.260 A couple hundred years.
00:31:01.900 That would not have been written down yet, right?
00:31:03.920 So they were memorizing that.
00:31:05.500 And the common man would have really had no ability to verify or check 0.88
00:31:10.920 or even learn those things apart from sitting under some rabbi and devoting your life to 0.66
00:31:15.560 learning the oral tradition. Is that right? Yep. That's absolutely correct. It's a huge
00:31:18.880 change in Jewish theology when a couple hundred years after the dispersed, after the end of the
00:31:23.680 temple, when they're literally like, we're losing the oral tradition. We're forgetting it. If people
00:31:27.960 are coming up, it's like telephone, you know, like across a hundred years, we thought we had this.
00:31:31.860 And then there's two different conflicting ones, but exactly to your point, you would have Torah.
00:31:36.400 Certainly that would be written. But then the oral tradition was memorized. I literally like
00:31:40.080 these rabbis these Pharisees they're memorizing it and they're trying to pass it down but no one
00:31:45.020 else had access to that you'd have to be a teacher to have access to the authoritative inspiration
00:31:49.780 and commentary and explanation of the law itself let's um if we can let's go ahead and show this
00:31:55.460 video and just give the audience just a little taste just a little just a little taste of modern
00:32:00.840 Judaism um you know the uh the serious ethical question you know questions that they're dealing
00:32:07.940 with in our time today yes so this is there's tons of pages out there like this this is not like i
00:32:13.700 was you know cherry pick i don't have an axe you know and i'm in the mines like digging like where
00:32:18.180 is this like this is stuff you'll just run across organically there's a big page i think it's like
00:32:21.700 moses and zipporah where she asks him i'm an orthodox jew how do i turn lights on sabbath and
00:32:27.140 they actually like well actually the light has to stay on what you can do is you can turn something
00:32:31.300 so it reveals the light or turn it like this so it turns off there's sabbath mode so the oven's
00:32:36.020 always on so there's lots of pages like that this is one of the ones that's very academic very so
00:32:42.100 and so said so but this is a homily on sabbath right this is not this is a question and answer
00:32:47.780 okay so we're gonna play a question and answer uh based on i think it's passover and then sabbath
00:32:51.940 because this year literally this year 2025 right sabbath and passover fell in the same thing so
00:32:56.820 it's huge questions what do i do with the meal the bread what time this set of the other so we'll
00:33:01.060 We'll play this clip.
00:33:31.060 corn, you shouldn't eat after that time. And same is true for egg matzah.
00:33:35.540 There's a regular matzah, there's a prohibition of eating matzah on Erev Pesach.
00:33:39.220 Some include that night before as well. Some permit eating it on Friday night.
00:33:43.300 Certainly all agree that on Erev Pesach, one may not eat matzah until the Seder.
00:33:47.460 If a person's eating bread, they have to make sure to finish the bread by 1020 or 1040,
00:33:52.580 depending on which time they go with. They can continue eating the meal afterwards,
00:33:56.660 and make a bench later but the bread should be stopped by 10 20 years to because passover
00:34:03.620 falls on sunday you have to stop eating the bread and you have to do it if you're in new york it's
00:34:07.940 10 40. on friday on friday yeah but 10 20 in other places and some right some would say friday some
00:34:14.180 would say otherwise there's more videos i didn't dialogue them but one question was like i have to
00:34:18.900 say a brocca a blessing upon a bottled water so i take a bottle of water does the brocca last
00:34:24.180 throughout the day if i take the bottle i take it to work you have to do a new one in your car you
00:34:27.860 go to work with your water so you fill up a water you say a prayer over it a blessing over it you
00:34:31.380 take the bottle you put it in your car and you go to work well is it the same water bottle and so
00:34:36.420 scholars have debated this some would say you've 40 minutes so as long as you're taking a sip every
00:34:40.740 40 minutes it's the same drink it's been blessed it's been blessed that's about takes about the
00:34:45.700 time it takes to digest so if it's longer you might have to say an additional brocca
00:34:50.020 over it and i mean to infinity like like meat and cheese uh some homes we were talking about this
00:34:56.340 earlier they have two sinks so that they're going to wash dairy dishes and meat dishes because dairy
00:35:01.060 and meat can't make you can't boil a kid in its mother's milk exactly and what that comes in is
00:35:04.980 if you wash with cold water you actually mix them but you wash with cold water well you're okay but
00:35:09.220 if you wash with hot water and some of the food from the top plate that had the meat got down to
00:35:13.780 the dairy it might get cooked and get dairy and then you have to go to your rabbi and it's just
00:35:18.340 layers upon layers upon layers upon layers in new york city don't they have like cables that run
00:35:23.940 like or like as a border around the city so so that they're able to move about in the city and
00:35:29.540 so certain enclosed spaces you can do different things on sabbath shavos and so in new york city
00:35:35.140 there's lots of jews that live there there's a wire encircling a huge portion of manhattan
00:35:39.940 so then that space technically counts as inside your home and i've seen videos too where some of
00:35:44.980 them will say a stroller can technically count as inside your home. So different things that you can
00:35:49.060 do if you put your hands in and work your phone in your stroller versus have them out. And then
00:35:53.060 same thing for you, New York. Normally, if you're outside of your home, you can't do X or Y or Z.
00:35:58.500 But technically, because you're in your home, you can use transportation or an elevator or this or
00:36:03.380 that or the other. And I have a I have a point to all of this. I I was talking to Michael before
00:36:10.660 we started but um there's a reason i think when jesus shows up on the scene it's not as though 0.99
00:36:15.060 he shows up and it's like all right what's the threat now it doesn't appear to be islam you
00:36:19.300 know we've got we've got 500 years till muhammad crawls out of a cave it doesn't appear to be 0.94
00:36:24.180 you know buddhism looks like the threat here is pharisaicalism let's have at it i guess this is 0.93
00:36:30.100 what we're dealing with in our time i think there's a real perpetual threat a real threat to
00:36:34.660 true religion is the self-righteousness and the self-justification that continually falls back on
00:36:40.340 well i did this and so-and-so said this and i'm not really to blame and i did my part the greatest
00:36:46.580 threat to true religion to true worship of god is a lack of faith and instead of saying i'm
00:36:51.300 trusting in christ i'm trusting in god i'm not going to to justify myself not going to explain
00:36:56.900 myself what judaism does and you hear it as they cite their scholars they cite their rabbis
00:37:02.100 as they're trying to build this airtight case no no no no i'm righteous like i think in the 0.71
00:37:07.380 last day you'll have many jews and he'll be cast into judgment they'll be like what gives i kept 0.56
00:37:12.980 every sabbath i stayed inside i didn't boil a kid in his mother's milk i didn't accident why i didn't 0.98
00:37:19.220 see you owe me i behaved i performed i did all of this you owe me for how i did whereas it's true
00:37:28.980 religion and it's true faith that says i mowed nothing and it's grace that has been given to me
00:37:34.340 that i'm actually off the hook and i offer back up that obedience i keep the sabbath we all keep
00:37:39.300 the sabbath now that's sunday resurrection sunday the lord's day but we keep it out of thanks for
00:37:44.020 the day of rest that god has given us and in remembrance of christ not a you owe me for this
00:37:49.140 at the end of the day hey hey i've got 500 sabbaths right that i was good on and that's
00:37:54.820 a real difference between a man-centered religion religion centered on man and a religion towards god
00:38:00.740 right yeah yeah within judaism the sabbath is something you know to keep and uh and it's
00:38:06.740 basically with each passing sabbath you're working you know the god of the universe further and
00:38:10.740 further into your debt by accumulating your moral capital you know by keeping the sabbath and the
00:38:16.660 things you observe and the things that you do the things you accomplish whereas the christian sabbath
00:38:21.380 you know um we we believe and this isn't just some um hangover from you know a sun god you know some
00:38:27.860 false religion. It's also not just some conspiracy from Constantine. But Christians for 2,000 years
00:38:34.900 have practiced the Christian Sabbath on the first day of the week, the Lord's Day, the Christian
00:38:39.580 Sabbath, by virtue of Jesus and his resurrection, that he rose from the dead on the first day of
00:38:45.480 the week and appeared to the apostles. And then a week later, also on Sunday, the first day of the
00:38:50.260 week, he appeared to the apostles again when Thomas was with him. Even the apostle Paul says
00:38:55.040 in one of the Pauline epistles,
00:38:57.360 when you gather together on the first day of the week,
00:39:00.140 that this is the day that you should take an offering.
00:39:03.460 And it's implicit in the text that he's acknowledging,
00:39:07.120 he's just assuming that Christians are gathering together
00:39:10.280 on the first day of the week.
00:39:11.280 And there's something about that gathering that's unique
00:39:13.400 because the apostolic texts say elsewhere
00:39:16.280 that they were daily devoting themselves
00:39:18.380 to the breaking of bread and to prayer
00:39:20.660 and to the apostles' teaching.
00:39:21.960 And so I take that to mean like an organic gathering of Christians.
00:39:25.800 It's not formalized, but that's just that Christians were sticking together and they
00:39:30.980 were spending daily time together in discipleship.
00:39:34.140 So this is, you know, it's two or three families that are getting together.
00:39:36.960 And the breaking of bread in this instance is not a reference to the Lord's Supper or
00:39:41.020 to, you know, the communion meal, but it's more indicative of a potluck.
00:39:45.280 It's Christian hospitality.
00:39:46.720 So there's, you know, two or three families that are getting together on a daily basis,
00:39:49.680 think, you know, for lack of a better phrase, a small group, you know, or a discipleship group.
00:39:53.780 And so that was a daily occurrence, but that's not what Paul's referencing when he talks about
00:39:58.480 this special gathering that's happening on the first day of the week, where they're taking
00:40:01.600 an offering for a church in another location where they were oppressed and persecuted and poor
00:40:06.280 and had need of financial assistance. And so daily, yes, there are individual, organically
00:40:12.240 individual families, a few families that are coming together as discipleship, organic discipleship
00:40:17.020 groups that are not taking the Lord's Supper, but rather just sharing a meal, a potluck,
00:40:21.480 hospitality together, and are talking about theology and doctrine like we do still to
00:40:25.640 this day, you know, with members in our church, getting together on a Tuesday night, having
00:40:30.020 them in our home to share a meal, talking about the Lord, talking about the apostles
00:40:34.840 teaching.
00:40:35.380 We still do this as Christians 2,000 years later, talking about the New Testament, talking
00:40:38.860 about theology, and spending some time together in prayer and sharing a meal together.
00:40:43.420 So that's just basic Christianity, that the saints love being with each other and being in fellowship and relationship and community with one another.
00:40:51.260 But the Apostle Paul, he specifies, and by way of implication, he assumes that there's a special, more formal gathering that's happening on the first day of the week,
00:41:01.220 which happens to be the same day that the Lord Jesus was raised from the dead, and the same day that a week later he appeared to the apostles.
00:41:08.160 And so Jesus, who himself claims to be the Lord of the Sabbath, he doesn't come to abolish or
00:41:13.380 remove the Sabbath, but rather Jesus, who's Lord of the Sabbath, that means he has authority over
00:41:17.760 the Sabbath. Jesus, who is Lord of the Sabbath, does not remove the Sabbath, but rather renews,
00:41:23.180 not removes, but renews the Sabbath from the last day of the week to the first. And all that back
00:41:27.700 to Wesley's gospel presentation that was very good, by the way. There's gospel indicatives
00:41:34.320 baked in even to the Christian Sabbath, being renewed to the first day of the week by virtue
00:41:38.800 of the Lord Jesus and his resurrection. And what those indicatives are, the implications of this,
00:41:44.800 is that under the Old Covenant, the Sabbath came in many ways as a reward for six days of labor.
00:41:53.960 So for the first six days of the week, people are working hard as unto the Lord, and then they
00:41:59.400 are given this privilege and a gift, a reward, in a sense, of six days of work, and now on the
00:42:06.100 seventh, as a response to the six days that are initial of working, now on the seventh they're
00:42:11.980 being rewarded with a day of rest. But under this gospel age in the new covenant, that's reversed
00:42:18.360 and flipped on its head. Now we don't receive the Sabbath, a day of rest, as a reward for our labor,
00:42:24.360 but instead we begin our week, the foundation of the Christian life. The first day of the week now
00:42:30.540 is a day of resting in free grace that's afforded to us by the Lord of the Sabbath,
00:42:35.680 the Lord Jesus himself. And so we have Resurrection Sunday, the Lord's Day, the Christian
00:42:40.320 Sabbath, a day of rest that begins our week rather than finishing it. And so we're not 0.78
00:42:44.980 given rest as a reward for labor, but rather we're from a place of rest. We begin with rest,
00:42:50.660 begin with grace, begin with gospel. And then our labor now is a response of gratitude,
00:42:56.620 not meriting the rest that comes in Christ, but a response of gratitude for the free gift of grace
00:43:03.160 and rest that we receive first. It's 1 John 4, 19. We love, but we do so as a response of gratitude
00:43:10.640 because he first loved us. So it's Christ giving us rest because of his work that's finished. And
00:43:17.340 we begin our week in that. So even a picture of the gospel comes with the Christian Sabbath being 0.96
00:43:22.920 the first day of the week. And so all these things, the difference between Christianity
00:43:28.220 and Judaism is incredibly stark. These aren't two sister religions, parallel religions with
00:43:36.680 overlap and a lot of things that we share in common, Judeo-Christianity. Judeo-Christianity
00:43:42.360 is a false religion. There's no such thing as Judeo-Christianity. That would be like saying 0.65
00:43:47.280 antichrist christianity right judaism is founded on a rejection of jesus and and so to say like oh
00:43:54.240 well you know like the west in america you know was built on antichrist christian christian christian
00:44:00.720 christianity that's i mean that's an oxymoron that's that's preposterous so christianity and
00:44:05.680 judaism are not parallel they don't share things in common they're not sister religions or a set
00:44:10.720 of similar values and virtues, Judaism is wholly opposed and hostile towards Christianity. It is 0.93
00:44:19.120 the reverse, in many cases, the absolute opposite, perversion and reverse of Christianity. It denies 0.97
00:44:25.160 grace. It denies gospel. It denies Christ. And so, yes, as Christians, we do believe, we are
00:44:31.700 Sabbatarian. We believe that there is a Christian Sabbath that's been practiced for 2,000 years,
00:44:35.820 really until recently. All the guys who are anti-Sabbatarian within Christianity, that is a
00:44:41.740 novel position, much like dispensationalism and Zionism, I might add. But that's a novel position 0.59
00:44:47.300 that really didn't exist until really the last century, the last hundred years. But for 1900
00:44:52.220 years running within every single wing of Christian thought, they were Sabbatarian. But even 0.82
00:44:58.160 the Sabbath was directly opposite to the Jewish Sabbath. It's the first day of the week. It's 0.98
00:45:05.100 beginning in gospel and grace and rest, and then working as a response of gratitude for the free
00:45:11.520 grace we've already received, rather than receiving that as a reward because we merited it by our
00:45:16.940 labor. Judaism is a wholly other, not wholly H-O-L-Y, but W-H, it's entirely other religion. 1.00
00:45:27.120 Yeah. Let's hit our last commercial break. We'll be right back. 1.00
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00:48:59.220 to claim your first free bag of coffee today. All right. So I want to get into a couple of 0.98
00:49:06.900 the actual teachings and we'll have to do a full series. All of the different, there's a lot in
00:49:11.200 there. There's 5,000 pages. It's meandering. But I want to isolate one kind of string and stream
00:49:16.940 of thought that runs through Jewish consciousness. And this matters not just for, well, orthodox
00:49:20.980 rabbinic Jews believe this. Like, well, actually, no. This is a thought that's shaped a people for 0.75
00:49:26.400 at least 2,000, if not more years. And that's a very strong sense of narcissism, that we are what
00:49:34.540 matters. I'm going to read a quote here. This is from Al Goldstein. This is the Jewish man that
00:49:38.460 made pornography mainstream in the United States. And he was asked in a book, he said by another
00:49:43.340 Jew, do you believe in God? And Goldstein said, I believe in me. I'm God. Screw God. God is your 0.63
00:49:49.680 need to believe in some super being. I am the super being. I am your God. Admit it. And I'm
00:49:56.220 going to pick up on this in a passage from the Talmud. We're going to play a quick clip here too.
00:49:59.740 This is another rabbi and he's talking about the Jewish people. Listen to what he says.
00:50:04.420 you guys are worshiping one jew that's a mistake you should be worshiping every single one of us
00:50:10.540 because we all die for your sins every single day and that's exactly what's going on here we're all 1.00
00:50:16.540 god's first but we're dying for your sins right now because because the jewish people in the land
00:50:20.900 of israel are the bulwark against the orcs a little self-important don't you think you should
00:50:27.500 be worshiping us yes because we're dying for your we're important the interpretation of isaiah 53
00:50:32.880 Yeah, I've heard this that is the interpretation about the prophecy about Christ. I mean,
00:50:37.440 how do you get around it? The suffering servant, the innocent lamb who by his stripes, we are
00:50:42.480 healed. Do you know what the Jewish interpretation of that passage is? It's Israel. Jews are the
00:50:48.180 suffering servants that we're the ones that are afflicted. We're the ones that are innocent,
00:50:52.580 have all these transgressions laid on us. And we're the ones literally because it can't be
00:50:56.540 about Christ. And obviously, you know, it's not about someone so far in history. Well,
00:51:01.040 who is it who is the suffering servant they literally many of them say us the jews throughout
00:51:05.960 history their perpetual suffering yep i'm going to read a quote this is from uh gittin 57a the
00:51:11.640 william davidson talmud this is one we cite a lot so this is talking about jesus of nazareth and
00:51:17.640 uh obviously now of course believe it or not you know two jews three opinions there's debate over
00:51:23.220 who this actually refers to but i'm going to read it at length because it highlights some of that
00:51:26.520 thing that i just said there and it also you'll see the language in it so i'm going to do my best
00:51:30.600 to kind of self-censor. If you got kids, you know, maybe just for the next two minutes or so,
00:51:35.300 turn the volume down. But this is what it says. So the Gemara relates. This is saying,
00:51:40.080 this is commentary, top of the Mishnah, top of the Torah. The Gemara relates.
00:51:45.740 Onichelos bar Kalinikos, the son of Titus's sister, wanted to convert to Judaism. He went
00:51:50.400 and raised Titus from the grave through necromancy and said to him, who is the most
00:51:53.780 important in that world where you are now? So in the realm of the dead, he's raised Titus through
00:51:58.160 necromancy, who is most important? Titus said to him, the Jewish people. Onkelos answered, should I 0.95
00:52:03.380 then attach myself to them here in this world? Titus said to him, their commandments are numerous
00:52:07.180 and you will not be able to fulfill them. It is best that you do as follows. Go out and battle
00:52:11.940 against them in that world and you will become the chief. As it is written, her adversaries have
00:52:16.080 become chief. Lamentations 1.5, which means anyone who distresses Israel will become the chief. 0.58
00:52:21.760 Onkelos said to him, what is the punishment of a man? A euphemism for Titus himself. So he's saying,
00:52:25.960 what's your punishment, Titus, in the next world? Titus said to him, that which he decreed against
00:52:30.260 himself as he undergoes the following. Every day his ashes are gathered and they judge him and they
00:52:34.980 burn him. They scatter him over the seven seas. Onkelos went and raised Balaam from the grave
00:52:39.400 through necromancy. He said to him, who is most important in that world where you are now, the
00:52:43.260 realm of the dead? Balaam said to him, the Jewish people. Onkelos asked him, should I then attach 0.97
00:52:47.760 myself to them here in this world? Balaam said to him, you shall not seek their peace or their
00:52:51.440 welfare all the days, Deuteronomy 23.7. Onkelos said to him, what is the punishment of that man,
00:52:56.900 Balaam, in the next world? Balaam said to him, he is boiling in, I literally, I'm just, I'm not even
00:53:01.980 going to say the word here, nasty substance as he caused Israel to engage in licentious behavior 0.98
00:53:06.480 with the daughters of Moab. All right, pay attention. Onkelos then went and raised Jesus 0.99
00:53:11.300 the Nazarene from the grave through necromancy. Onkelos said to him, who is the most important 0.59
00:53:16.220 in that world where you are now? He's asked this question three times. Jesus said to him,
00:53:20.740 the Jewish people. Onkelos asked him, should I then attach myself to them in this world?
00:53:25.820 Jesus said to him, their welfare shall you seek, their misfortune you shall not seek.
00:53:29.640 For anyone who touches them, that is the Jewish people, is regarded as if he were touching the 0.88
00:53:34.500 apple of his eye. Onkelos said to him, what is the punishment of that man? And that's a euphemism
00:53:39.040 for Jesus himself. In the next world, Jesus said to him, he is punished with boiling excrement. 0.97
00:53:44.560 As the master said, anyone who mocks the words of the sages will be sentenced to boiling excrement
00:53:49.180 and commentary on this because Jesus mocked the Pharisees. That's also considered to be
00:53:53.840 a reference to him. He mocked the wisdom of the sages. He did this. This is his punishment that
00:53:58.780 he's receiving. As the master said, anyone who mocks the words of the sages will be sentenced
00:54:02.480 to boiling excrement. And this was his sin as he mocked the words of the sages. The Gemara comments,
00:54:07.260 the commentary and the commentary, come and see the difference between the sinners of Israel and 0.81
00:54:10.960 the prophets of the nations of the world. As Balaam, who was a prophet, wished Israel harm, 0.69
00:54:14.700 whereas Jesus the Nazarene was a Jewish sinner sought their well-being. There's minimalist and 0.70
00:54:21.300 maximalist interpretations. Minimalist minimizes all references. This is not about Jesus. This is
00:54:26.740 not about Christianity, because a lot of the Talmud, again, is being compiled as the Christian
00:54:31.040 empire is beginning to be assembled. So some would say this is not in reference whatsoever.
00:54:35.400 I look at it. I say yes. But here's the deal. Does it really literally matter? Let me give one more
00:54:41.580 quote from the Talmud. This is just keep it down if you've got kids. So Ray Ashaya, so another
00:54:50.060 rabbi commentating, raised an objection to the opinion of Ray from the Mishnah. With regard to
00:54:55.240 an adult male who engages in relations with a minor girl less than three years old or a minor
00:55:00.280 boy less than nine years old who engage in relations with an adult woman or a woman who is
00:55:04.660 ruptured by wood or any other foreign object, their marriage contract for each of these women
00:55:08.700 is 200 dinars. This is the statement of Rabbi Mir. And the rabbis say, and it continues on and on
00:55:14.820 and on. And this is the book. This is the book that has shaped Jews for 2000 years. This is the
00:55:21.580 commentary, the meandering, the back and forth. And then you get to Brooklyn. Oh, we found a tunnel
00:55:26.780 and my goodness, there's kid-sized mattresses with stains. This is the ethos, the thought
00:55:34.460 that has shaped them to where they get to they are now they're not our friends they're not our 1.00
00:55:39.420 allies israel is not best buds with us as far as christians go we would say this about muslims we 1.00
00:55:45.240 would say this about buddhists and we say this about hindus jews are our enemy for the sake of 1.00
00:55:49.940 the gospel they are our enemy and they're doing damage to christendom there's lots of enemies to 1.00
00:55:55.600 be fair to christendom but there is one enemy that's done a lot of damage i think the excuse
00:56:02.440 me the the thing to take away from this is the idea that christians have a duty to have a
00:56:17.400 and i'll say differently the idea that christians have been trained to see the jews and judaism
00:56:24.840 in particular as a sibling religion right where where you know i might look very much like my
00:56:34.200 father might look a little bit like my cousin right and so the idea that judaism would be a
00:56:41.000 religion of a family relation a cousin or a brother where there's yeah maybe we don't have
00:56:47.720 the same exact biological father if it's my cousin but there's a family resemblance and a congeniality
00:56:53.880 between the two that ought to be preserved. And the religion of Judaism is, like you say, Wes,
00:57:02.280 it is a complete departure from the Old Testament. And as such, one of the things I was going to 1.00
00:57:08.520 mention earlier is, I think the Apostle Paul, when he wrote Hebrews, he points out over and over and
00:57:15.520 over again that the contrast between what the Christians at that time, who were tempted to go
00:57:22.180 back to judaism we're facing was literally not a contrast between two faiths it was a contrast
00:57:29.940 between faith in christ or reliance on self which god hates right and so the idea that we have a
00:57:39.060 kind of congenial long lost cousin relationship with judaism is this this took me a long time
00:57:47.460 to kind of get through my head as a lot of people um it takes a long time to get through their head
00:57:53.060 as well which is why i'm saying it kind of you know dispassionately but it is something that
00:57:58.160 christians have to realize this is not a family relationship of of we're cousins religiously with
00:58:06.880 the jews it's not that at all big brothers holding out on coming to the amusement park
00:58:11.700 problem saying this um about islam right or or some other religion right we would say this is
00:58:18.260 anathema this is contrary to the gospel at its core right in every single way evangelicals are 0.89
00:58:24.180 perfectly fine uh with recognizing islam as an enemy an enemy of the west an enemy of christianity 0.82
00:58:31.220 um but they're for some reason they always carve out not for some reason i mean 0.94
00:58:37.380 exceptionalism and zionism and right yeah no you're right so there are theological
00:58:41.300 reasons, perversions and false teachings that carve out some kind of subcategory, Christian
00:58:50.120 adjacency for Judaism, where there is no such carve out for Islam. But in addition to that,
00:58:57.320 I also think part of it is also looking at the destruction that has taken place with Islam. So 1.00
00:59:03.460 it's a lot easier for evangelicals to say, well, look at what Muslims are doing in England 0.99
00:59:09.920 you know um with you know r-a-p-e or what they did in spain yeah exactly what they did yeah and
00:59:16.340 you know or like let's look at 9-11 you know i understand that 9-11 is extremely complicated you 0.97
00:59:21.280 know and who actually is the culprit there and who was celebrating what happened well yeah jews
00:59:27.240 were celebrating when it happened um but i'm just saying but for the normie right so i'm not saying
00:59:32.140 this is necessarily exactly my position on 9-11 uh maybe we'll do an episode on that someday but
00:59:37.440 for for the normie evangelical it's like well look at what muslims did you know in our own country
00:59:42.040 you know just you know just a couple decades ago you know and so uh so there's all these you know
00:59:47.320 whether it's spain whether it's england whether it's 9-11 you know it's muslims muslims muslims 0.97
00:59:51.800 and um and and hear me like um i think muslims hate the west i think that muslims hate christianity 0.91
00:59:58.880 you know and there may be some muslim that listens to this and says well i don't that's 0.95
01:00:02.080 that's not true you know that's just um that's just muslim extremist you know that's that's 0.99
01:00:06.860 uh islamic extremism um no that's that's islamic faithfulness yeah you're a bad muslim you're just 0.98
01:00:13.320 a bad muslim that's right that's absolutely you know what america is called in the middle east 1.00
01:00:17.420 it's called the great satan yeah yeah so so are there are there millions and millions of peaceful 0.99
01:00:22.920 muslims yes there are millions and millions of compromised muslims apathetic muslims um half 0.98
01:00:27.960 hearted Muslims. Of course there are. Inconsistent Muslims. Yeah, inconsistent Muslims. So of course 1.00
01:00:32.040 there are peaceful Muslims. There are peaceful Muslims insofar as there are compromised Muslims. 1.00
01:00:37.420 But the Muslims who are extreme are really just faithful to the Islamic text. They're being 1.00
01:00:43.060 faithful to the Quran. They're carrying out jihad. And how do we know? Because Christians have been 1.00
01:00:47.020 willing to take the time to look at what their sacred text says, right? About slaying the infidel 1.00
01:00:52.400 and all these things. So like what we've done, all I'm saying is I'm just simply advocating that 1.00
01:00:57.500 the same process that we've employed when it comes to Islam and taking the time to read the
01:01:03.300 Quran and to see, oh, wow, okay. This is what Christians should be willing to do with the
01:01:08.160 Talmud. This is what we should be willing to do with Judaism. And over the centuries, 0.96
01:01:12.560 there have been various times and places and countries and nations that have done just that,
01:01:17.820 that they've taken the time to actually read what the Talmud says. The Reformers were known for as
01:01:23.380 they wanted to get back to the Scripture, and they were breaking away from Roman Catholicism
01:01:27.900 and the Vulgate, you know, which was, you know, the Septuagint, but kind of twisted into the Latin
01:01:32.340 and perverting, you know, twisting some Scriptures and actually changing what the Bible said as they
01:01:39.160 were trying to get back to the original, you know, manuscripts and text, and they needed to be able
01:01:43.420 to read the Hebrew. You know, they knew Greek, but they needed to be able to read Hebrew, and they
01:01:47.700 were trying to do exegetical work and translating the Bible into the modern tongue. And so they
01:01:52.960 sought out Jewish rabbis to help them towards that end. And there were some Jewish rabbis who
01:01:59.040 were willing to help, but as they taught them how to read and write and speak in Hebrew,
01:02:03.900 eventually some of these Christian theologians went and began to, now knowing how to read Hebrew,
01:02:09.460 they had Jews that were living in their settlements and in their countries and in
01:02:13.100 their societies. And so they were like, hey, well, I'm curious, what did the Jews believe?
01:02:16.780 And so they started, now that they knew how to read in Hebrew, they started reading the Talmud.
01:02:20.540 and there are several occasions that upon learning Hebrew from Jewish rabbis and then reading the 0.94
01:02:26.540 Talmud all of a sudden they decide hey you know what we're going to kick out the Jews we don't
01:02:31.120 we're going to part ways here we're going to part ways yeah like oh my goodness that's in the Talmud 0.50
01:02:34.980 the Talmud says what oh no you guys don't get to live here and and so my point in all this is and
01:02:41.960 I've said it before but I'm going to say it again because I really do think that it's true I'm not 0.54
01:02:45.480 saying it's universally true but I think it's generally true and there is a difference okay
01:02:49.640 not universally every single Jew or every single Muslim for that matter, but a general truth. 1.00
01:02:56.100 All the destruction that you've seen from Islam, you do need, I think you do need to draw a 1.00
01:03:01.660 correlation and at least attach some of that destruction that is the doing of Islam. It is. 1.00
01:03:09.560 So I'm not trying to let, like, let's let Muslims off the hook. No, no, no. They are responsible. 1.00
01:03:14.160 But I would like for you to share some of that moral responsibility with Judaism, not 0.98
01:03:19.060 each and every, universally each and every Jew, but there's an old saying that Islam 0.91
01:03:24.480 is the broom of Judaism.
01:03:26.900 And I think that that saying is, again, not universally for each and every individual 0.99
01:03:30.840 Muslim and each and every individual Jew, but I think it's generally true.
01:03:34.560 And what I mean by that is, in many cases, Jews who have achieved political office and
01:03:39.720 high positions in various Western countries are the ones who statistically vote lockstep. 0.77
01:03:47.680 They vote the most ardently towards poorest wars, open society.
01:03:52.200 8% for Kamala this past election.
01:03:54.160 80% for Kamala this past election.
01:03:56.660 And so it has been, in many cases, in Western Christian countries, or at least previously 0.99
01:04:02.260 Christian countries, it is a bunch of white guys who aren't Jewish who suck. 0.99
01:04:07.980 There's plenty of those. 0.99
01:04:08.820 so we're not saying you know that joe biden yeah joe biden right he's not jewish as far as we know
01:04:13.400 you know i'd be interested to see a 23andme test on joe biden you know but you know but i think
01:04:18.740 there might be you know there could be a little ashkenazi in there but i'm being facetious joe 0.97
01:04:23.100 biden as far as we know is not a jew and yet he absolutely hates christ hates christianity hates 0.83
01:04:27.580 the catholic church which he claims to be a part of um and hates the west and hates america and
01:04:32.160 all of his policies display that uh overtly so i'm not saying it's it's just the jews um i maybe
01:04:38.740 the easiest way i could say is like this um um not all jews are uh sinister uh deceitful uh civil
01:04:48.600 officers in western countries destroying you know the nation um so so when you look if you look to 0.65
01:04:54.740 jews um you would not see every jew is doing this politically to america but if you look to 0.96
01:05:02.580 the civil officers themselves you will find a lot of jews right i'll say that again so you look to 0.70
01:05:08.380 jews a million jews you're not going to find that 50 even 50 of them or even close or even 10 of
01:05:14.700 them are you know sitting in congress if we lump in banking the door okay yeah but the point is
01:05:22.420 you look to jews and you don't find oh it's 50 of jews are um are sitting as civil officers in 0.83
01:05:29.340 america destroying the country but you look to the civil officers in america destroying the country 0.74
01:05:33.360 and you will find a lot of jews and especially if you look per capita and start thinking but 0.90
01:05:40.040 there's only this small percentage of jews that even are here in america oh my goodness but it's
01:05:45.100 this percentage in congress and this percentage and you know and so i think there is a general 0.76
01:05:50.240 not universal but general truth um that islam is the broom of judaism and again what i mean by that 0.83
01:05:56.780 is that Jews often don't do the overt destruction, but they do the subvert destruction. Judaism has 1.00
01:06:05.520 been, this isn't all Jews again, but Judaism has been very subversive. Whereas Islam has been an 1.00
01:06:12.460 overt enemy of Christian Western nations, Judaism has been a subversive enemy. And often what it 1.00
01:06:19.160 does is it doesn't light the city on fire, but it opens the door and holds the door open for the 1.00
01:06:25.060 Muslims who then come in and light the city on fire. And so my point is this, um, both from a 0.98
01:06:30.800 theological standpoint, just like you would read the Quran and say, this is wicked. You should be 0.90
01:06:36.040 able to read the Talmud and say, this is wicked. So theologically, um, uh, Judaism is not Christian 0.98
01:06:41.660 adjacent. It is no closer to Christianity than Islam is. Um, and so theologically on the merits 0.97
01:06:47.800 of the actual sacred text, these are not, um, these are not our, I've read excerpts of both
01:06:53.180 the quran and the talmud the quran is slop it's terrible it's not as bad as the talmud 0.68
01:06:59.160 talmud is much more wicked and in terms of yeah in terms of perversion and also of course its 0.99
01:07:04.180 view of christ right so within islam honors him as a failed prophet exactly so within islam like 0.68
01:07:10.040 jesus is you know he's a decent guy he's a decent guy you know he's not god but he's a decent guy
01:07:15.840 within judaism it's not just that he's not the son of god he's not divine but he's also not a
01:07:20.560 decent guy. And so on the merits of the sacred texts themselves and the theology of Islam and 0.96
01:07:27.380 Judaism, Judaism is no closer to Christianity than Islam, and you can maybe even make an argument
01:07:33.220 that is further away. But I think a lot of evangelicals, you know, still have this fondness
01:07:38.340 for Judaism and Israel that they don't have for Islam. And so getting away from the theological
01:07:45.580 merits but getting to the the experience what have they done um i think that that's that's one
01:07:51.760 of the ways where a lot of modern evangelicals will look to judaism look to israel and say well
01:07:56.300 israel you know as far as we know you know the normie verse israel is not flying planes into
01:08:02.660 you know the two towers you know israel is not um is not trying you know saying death to america
01:08:09.200 you know uh in in their videos like isis you know or something like that um and and that's true 0.96
01:08:14.900 But Israel is in very many ways, and you have to recognize this, they are opening the door to a 0.97
01:08:21.880 third world invasion, to an Islamic invasion. They don't invade, but they open the door for those who 0.99
01:08:28.940 do. And there are direct correlations that you can look through history of, oh man, it was in
01:08:35.900 large part, not exclusively, but in large part, it was Jewish influence that took this Christian 0.52
01:08:42.040 Western nation and made it vulnerable to the Middle East and Islamic powers. And so it's worth 1.00
01:08:49.420 acknowledging. That quote that Islam was the broom of Judaism, that was, by the way, a quote from a 0.64
01:08:56.200 Jewish rabbi. That was not something that Joel made up on the spot. That was a quote from Jewish
01:09:03.520 rabbi david uh tower tower there you go yeah yeah okay well uh you can maybe hear pick up on
01:09:10.880 on the mics here um we've got five little people that um that are very loud namely my people with
01:09:20.120 little hats no no tiny hats not in this family as for me in my house we we love the lord jesus
01:09:25.660 christ um but yeah my my kids are home and uh they're loud and ready to hang out with their
01:09:32.300 dad so wes you outlined the episode this this is going to have to be a series because it's
01:09:36.200 fascinating it's vital it's important there's a lot of deception and just for the record it's not
01:09:41.120 even just like oh we really got to pick on the jews if if if we were living in a time of christendom
01:09:46.860 where the average christian 90 of christians in america we're saying um uh islam is is pretty
01:09:54.200 good yeah it's false but it's pretty good and muslims are our greatest our allies in afghanistan 0.58
01:09:59.280 yeah if that was it then dude we would be we'd be talking about you know we'd be like all right
01:10:03.920 we're gonna have to do a 20-part series on why muslims are not your friends and so so it's not 0.95
01:10:09.640 just uh what we think judaism is so much worse than islam we've already said you know on the 0.84
01:10:15.320 text textual basis uh there is an argument to be made for why um it is just as bad if not worse 1.00
01:10:22.080 um but but the main reason we're doing this is not because we're saying uh jews are worse than 0.94
01:10:27.900 muslims worse than hindus worse than um it's it the large part we're doing this because uh we 0.97
01:10:35.200 think that that's the blind spot in the west we think that that's the average christian's blind 0.99
01:10:39.820 spot i'll connect this to 48 hours ago as of recording this governor greg abbott is threatening
01:10:44.400 to strip the city of san marcos of millions of dollars worth of grants because they're considering
01:10:49.960 the divestiture of 4 million 4.4 million dollars that were in some type of uh israeli defense or
01:10:55.960 whatever they're considering taking that money not investing it in israel there's laws on the
01:11:00.640 books that require that any uh business or state or city that does business with texas has to in
01:11:06.540 writing be clear and promise that they won't divest or boycott israel as you literally have
01:11:11.720 the governor of our state where we live he said anti-israel policies are anti-texas policies
01:11:16.900 right just insane like guys this stuff matters people will be going to prison if you don't
01:11:22.600 start now loud and clear we are americans we are not greater israel we are christians not jews
01:11:30.280 this is where we stand like this stuff matters right it matters for christians this is going to
01:11:34.440 be the fight potentially of our generation i think so yeah it matters for christians it matters
01:11:38.360 theologically it matters for for what's most important uh the ultimate the eternal heaven
01:11:43.800 and hell and what a person believes um but but it also matters politically for our nation um we
01:11:50.040 we're not um america does not exist to shill for israel and and so when you have a governor saying
01:11:56.120 anti-israel policies and he's not talking about the city of san marcus you know held a rally where
01:12:01.160 everyone came out and was saying death to israel we hate jews we hate you no no that's not what
01:12:05.800 he's talking about he's talking about them the city in texas not not an israeli city a city in texas 0.89
01:12:11.880 simply removing from their books foreign aid to israel i think they had a resolution in support
01:12:17.080 of palestine don't love it not great taking the money away resolution in support of palestine
01:12:21.880 but here's the thing they're both foreign nations like so i don't love that either no i like keep
01:12:28.680 the money for texas so yeah you don't need a resolution for palestine um but but that's
01:12:33.240 but that's where we're at is where governors in america in you know allegedly conservative states
01:12:39.960 like ours um are are threatening um using you know financial restraints and and threatening
01:12:47.640 um their their american you know states um if they if they simply don't want to send money to israel
01:12:55.640 and so yeah this this really is i think um one of the premier issues i would put it right i don't
01:13:02.120 think it's the issue like the only issue um but in the same way that like like if you're like man
01:13:08.520 they're talking about jews again um i think put it in the same put zionism in the same category as 0.55
01:13:16.120 feminism so like there are a few staples uh because we think they're widespread problems 0.96
01:13:21.880 we think that feminism is rampant that it's rampant that it's a it's a monster it's it's 1.00
01:13:27.560 it's accumulated so much power um it it influences all of our policies everything that we do it's it's
01:13:35.240 we we just did an episode on um uh on on wednesday where um where we were uh talking about the birth
01:13:42.120 rate like we literally think feminism is killing us it's literally killing us so so i'm not saying
01:13:47.080 that zionism is is even more of a problem than that but but i'm we're saying there are some
01:13:52.040 issues and we think feminism is one of them we think zionism is one of them and there's there's 0.98
01:13:56.840 maybe a few other but there there are a handful of issues that we think are crippling the west 0.85
01:14:02.920 crippling christianity crippling churches which that's what we care about most importantly even
01:14:08.700 more than america is the church of jesus christ and uh and where there's just just an unusual 0.96
01:14:15.160 blind spot an unusual amount of um of ignorance and uh and so those are issues that we're going
01:14:23.200 to talk about a lot i mean how many episodes have we done on masculinity on patriarchy on raising
01:14:29.320 your t levels on and uh and i think that this is not enough not enough we need to do more and this
01:14:35.460 is similar it's similar in the sense that it's uh destructive um that it's demonic that it's um
01:14:41.180 that it's theologically twisting and and and obscuring um but then it's also um uh politically
01:14:47.660 uh it's it's a huge threat to the west and um but then the last piece that i'm trying to draw
01:14:53.900 is also it has an unusual amount for christians of ignorance right right so if everybody was aware
01:15:00.760 of these things which we were all there a few years ago too right so like like during covet
01:15:05.340 yep you know i did a ton of episodes about covet right right because a bunch of people were
01:15:10.660 hoodwinked and so uh so that when you're thinking like well you know well what is there any uh
01:15:16.860 guiding uh factor for what you guys you know choose to emphasize and i would say yeah there
01:15:24.300 is and and it's uh what what is most urgent what is most threatening and uh and where are where is
01:15:31.180 the average christian the most blind right those those are some factors that that that that influence
01:15:37.100 us in determining what we need to probably talk about a lot and this is one of those things so
01:15:42.380 we're not we our promise is we're not going to be unhinged we're not going to be hateful we're not
01:15:46.620 going to be um uh extreme but we are going to say things that according to uh the adl and sadly even
01:15:54.860 according to the average evangelical they will consider it to be hateful and and extreme um but
01:16:00.380 it's not these are basic views uh that that christians have held um for centuries for centuries
01:16:07.740 i mean mo many i won't say most but there have been many christian nations and societies where
01:16:14.060 where they said, we're gonna treat Jews with respect,
01:16:17.740 but they're not allowed to hold public office.
01:16:20.380 Samuel Rutherford.
01:16:21.340 Yeah, Samuel, like we're talking-
01:16:22.820 You don't get to hold office.
01:16:23.700 Yeah, you don't get to hold public office. 1.00
01:16:26.100 We're not going to, there are many Christians
01:16:28.300 that wouldn't allow publicly for there to be a synagogue. 0.91
01:16:31.560 And there's a far cry between that and the final solution.
01:16:36.180 We're not talking about that,
01:16:37.440 but we're talking about our Christian fathers
01:16:39.680 and even our American Christian fathers
01:16:42.180 and the views that they held and all we're saying is maybe they were onto something maybe that maybe
01:16:48.020 they were onto something and uh and so i i think that this is a series worthy uh topic and uh and
01:16:54.740 we hope to um to investigate more of it and get deeper into it in the future so thank you guys
01:17:00.340 for let me end with this i'll just say the biggest tension between the two the christianity is a
01:17:04.580 religion of faith yeah when we stand before god we don't have i did this i performed i kept the law
01:17:10.500 the tradition said we have faith what do i have to offer you told me if i trusted in your son that 0.99
01:17:16.260 you would forgive my sins the jew does not have that and they've been shaped by i have to be 0.95
01:17:21.380 righteous i have to justify myself the christian doesn't have to do that and he rests in faith 0.90
01:17:26.900 and in that regard well said that's a great place to end in that regard i just want to point out
01:17:30.900 and broaden it just a little bit and say uh in that regard um a religion of grace versus a real
01:17:37.620 and faith versus religion of merit and the works and traditions of men that's the difference between
01:17:43.060 christianity and every other every other religion that's the difference between christianity and
01:17:47.060 judaism is the difference between christianity and islam and hinduism that's the difference
01:17:51.060 between christianity and offshoots of christianity like jehovah's witness and mormon um only historic
01:17:57.140 christianity it's the only religion of free grace yep it is and uh and that's the beauty of the
01:18:03.940 the person work of jesus in the gospel so uh if you're not a christian um i implore you and plead
01:18:09.440 with you to put your faith in the lord jesus christ um there's there's only one religion
01:18:14.240 where their god our god um became man instead of instead of just giving a path for man to become
01:18:22.240 as god um god actually became man lived a perfectly righteous life and fulfilled all the law of god
01:18:28.240 for you in your place and then took upon himself your sin and paid for the wages of sin which is
01:18:34.580 death the wrath of god nailed to a tree and then rose again on the third day and is now seated in
01:18:40.000 heaven praying on your behalf interceding for you that more and more grace would be given to you so
01:18:45.900 that you might live a life for him um that's that's the christian faith and there is no other 0.99
01:18:51.360 nothing else is like that and uh judaism will leave you high and dry just like islam just like
01:18:57.800 atheism, just like any other worldview. So trust in Jesus and get plugged into a biblical church 0.95
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