The NXR Podcast - THE LIVESTREAM - Why Gen Z Is Becoming A Problem For The Democratic Party

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00:00:26.800 when a political party starts eating its young it's not a sign of strength it's a sign of fear

00:00:33.960 this summer the democrat party cracked down on one of its own david hogg a gen z reformer

00:00:42.420 was ousted after challenging the party's aging incumbents meanwhile younger voters on the left

00:00:50.340 and right are pulling further apart progressives want to rebuild the country from scratch

00:00:56.060 conservatives are looking to rebuild the family, the nation, and the faith. But here's the problem

00:01:02.660 for Democrats. The party is not designed for ideological conflict. It's designed to contain

00:01:09.920 it. For decades, the DNC has kept power not by persuasion, but by control. Controlling debate

00:01:17.680 access, rewriting rules, and sidelining dissent. And it worked up until now. Because Gen Z isn't

00:01:26.680 buying the party line, they're not unifying around compromise. They're entrenching, choosing sides, 0.98

00:01:34.220 choosing intensity, choosing ideology over loyalty. And when a generation does that,

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00:02:08.220 donate. So today we examine how the Democrat party works to control dissent, why that's starting to

00:02:15.700 fail? And what happens when the youngest Americans reject the oldest political party in the world?

00:02:33.860 All right, here we are. This is an episode that's been outlined by our very own Michael Belch

00:02:39.080 and talking about the Democrats basically hating and destroying Gen Z.

00:02:45.700 And Gen Z isn't having it.

00:02:47.720 All right, go ahead and lead us off. 0.98

00:02:49.280 This was an interesting one.

00:02:50.860 It started off because I realized I don't know actually a whole lot about how the Democratic Party actually works.

00:02:56.440 And if they are a political enemy, I thought, you know, we should know a little bit about how they work.

00:03:01.320 Well, then as I as I dove in, as I started kind of investigating it, it was interesting to me.

00:03:07.220 one of the theses is these theses one of the theses for the episode at least from from my part

00:03:14.000 today is um a lot of the future of i'm not even sure that the parties are right the republican

00:03:19.940 party the democratic party but for now we'll just we'll use those as the stand-in words

00:03:24.280 a lot of the future of the two parties in america will depend on how um gen z perceives them so for

00:03:32.400 instance, by 2030, it's estimated that Gen Z will be the largest voting bloc in the U.S., which is

00:03:39.320 crazy as the boomers are dying off, as millennials are getting older, et cetera. So Gen Z going forward

00:03:47.220 is going to have a very important role and voice in terms of what goes on in the nation, which

00:03:53.600 parties are elected, which, you know, the direction of the country. So it's really interesting to me

00:04:00.560 that at the tails, you've got Gen Z who are more conservative than anything we've seen in a long

00:04:07.100 time. And we've got Gen Z who are also more progressive than anything we've seen in a long

00:04:13.800 time. Yeah, it's like the widest gap. Yes, the gap is huge. And that is a really interesting

00:04:18.640 dynamic that I'm hoping to kind of develop here as we go along. The question is, first of all,

00:04:24.820 what I want to do first is just give kind of a story that illustrates potentially what's going

00:04:31.420 on in the Democratic Party. The Democratic Party is the oldest political party in the world.

00:04:37.020 The Tories in England rebranded themselves. And so while it's basically the same thrust,

00:04:45.100 the party disbanded and rebranded quite a long time ago. But the Democratic Party has existed

00:04:51.320 in a continuous stream for the longest amount of time of any party in political history so

00:04:57.000 that being the case i think it would be a mistake to just assume the democratic party is done

00:05:03.420 right they have managed to rebrand themselves to bring in up dissidents to pivot to change and

00:05:14.100 twist and turn many many times even through recent history since the the 60s so um it would

00:05:20.840 be a mistake, I think, on our part to assume that, you know, they were dealt such a blow at the last

00:05:26.000 election. They're in total chaos, which all of this is true, but that they are done, that that's

00:05:32.280 the end. Yeah. Okay. So I want to read a quote from, this is going to be quote number one,

00:05:38.900 a quote from City Journal, which was talking about a Democratic representative shortly after

00:05:48.420 the November election when Trump won so handily. So here is what they say about this. It says

00:05:55.240 shortly after the election, Representative Seth Moulton of Massachusetts declared that the party

00:06:01.200 needed to be, quote, brutally honest, unquote, about how out of step its position on transgender

00:06:06.740 issues was with the American public. As the father of two young daughters, Moulton told the New York

00:06:12.980 times he agreed with the eight and ten americans who did not want schoolgirls quote getting run

00:06:18.560 over on a playing field by a male or formerly male athlete end quote the blowback was severe

00:06:24.700 activists spurred on by local democratic officials and national journalists and non-profits accused

00:06:31.220 molten of quote scapegoating trans people um descended on his office for a neighbors against

00:06:38.500 hate rally and pledged to primary him in his next election moulton's campaign manager and the

00:06:44.920 director of his political action committee quit in protest of his remarks and the chairwoman of

00:06:50.620 the salem democratic city committee denounced him in an email as a quote nazi cooperator and

00:06:57.060 that's great that's great i mean with enemies like that who needs friends i know that's right

00:07:02.520 i know yeah that's i mean that's all you can hope for the democrats are very committed to yes

00:07:07.580 so he is presumably if he's got two daughters who are school age or you know we don't know how old

00:07:13.940 they were but he's he's a little bit older he's not going to be gen z maybe not even gen x um

00:07:19.080 maybe gen x um but it it shows the clash going on in the democratic party or in the progressive

00:07:25.480 movement right he realizing they'd been drummed badly in the election said guys let's pull back

00:07:30.340 a little bit. And the backlash was immediate. I mean, really, really, really strong. He got

00:07:36.120 called the worst thing they could possibly imagine calling someone usually referred for

00:07:40.800 the reserve for the Republicans and conservatives, which was, of course, a neo-Nazi for just wanting

00:07:45.420 to question the party on that. Democrats are getting a taste that once you turn that revolution

00:07:50.120 spigot on, you get that revolutionary mindset into the youth. There actually isn't an off button to

00:07:55.280 it. Gavin Newsom is going to run to the same problem. He knows he has to run as a moderate.

00:07:58.980 He knows he has to kind of hedge and say, look, at the end of the day, and he did this with Charlie Kirk, I don't know, maybe there's some limits, but I think they're quickly realizing that when you radicalize young people, you tell them you need to join a revolution, you need to burn the system down, that when you get to a certain point saying like, hey, this is damaging, this is hurting our optics, I can't run on this platform, that's a big part of it, like, I may privately agree with you, I can't run on this platform to get power, they've been trained to be revolutionary, and they'll say, we'll accept nothing less.

00:08:27.080 I mean, this was communist China. If someone wasn't revolutionary enough, their entire family line could be designated as blood traitors. They weren't revolutionary enough. They didn't take it far enough. They didn't agree with it. And that's been the tactic of the left, at least in modern times since the Enlightenment.

00:08:43.220 Yeah. Yeah, that's true. So one of the things I wanted to do here in the first section was just so show some of the differences between how the Democratic National Committee or convention works and the GOP.

00:08:54.980 So, Nate, this is going to be the first image. And to me, this was helpful because the two organizations, while they're both political parties, they actually run somewhat differently.

00:09:06.440 OK, so here is a couple of the features, the power structure. The Democrats are very top down, very centralized.

00:09:13.940 They can kind of flip a switch and everyone is going to fall in line.

00:09:19.160 There's a lot of power collected at the top with the Democrats, which is ironic because they keep they branded themselves as the movement of the people.

00:09:26.820 But even these protests that we're seeing, we all know they're not grassroots. Right.

00:09:31.300 right? They are funded by people at the top. They are organized by people at the top. It's not the

00:09:36.620 grassroots movement that people think it is. The Republicans are looser. They are a little bit more

00:09:41.660 grassroots driven. I think what I would say here is they are sadly just, there's less strong

00:09:46.800 leadership at the top, which we sorely lack. Yeah. Not as much organization. Not as much

00:09:53.000 organization. Yep. The coalition, this is the modern, the state of it in modern times. This

00:09:57.760 has not always been the case, but the Democrats tend to be more ideological. They have been the

00:10:03.080 elites, the activists, they have the academy, they have the schools, they, you know, for a long time

00:10:07.880 they've had the media. For the Republicans, it's a little more cultural. It's largely Christian or

00:10:14.560 religious, populist, anti-globalist. So it's more of a cultural movement at this point, especially

00:10:20.760 if you think about what MAGA is doing. Their reach, their institutional reach, the Democrats have been

00:10:27.180 embedded in bureaucracy and media for a long time. I mean, that was the whole scandal with

00:10:31.880 the Hunter Biden laptop, um, and going back a long time. So the Republicans have of late the

00:10:39.040 electoral power, but still they don't have the institutional control. Um, that's, that's still

00:10:44.120 the case. Their tactics. Uh, this is where, um, what, what has been done is while I think this

00:10:51.440 is an accurate representation of the tactics of the, of the Democrats and the Republicans,

00:10:55.440 in a lot of ways, it's been switched in the public perception. So the tactics for the Democrats are

00:11:00.880 to enforce the regulation and administrative law. This is why we see so many judges willing to step

00:11:06.820 up and, you know, kind of rule, quote unquote, rule against Trump and what he's doing or what

00:11:12.940 conservatives and Republicans are doing. The Republican tactic has always been to negotiate

00:11:18.460 and to kind of privately resist change.

00:11:22.060 And in that right there,

00:11:24.380 I think is really a fundamental difference.

00:11:26.580 The Republicans want to negotiate.

00:11:28.560 They want to find compromise.

00:11:30.280 And Democrats, I'm painting with a really broad brush here,

00:11:33.840 but by and large, it's our way or the highway,

00:11:36.820 my way or the highway, and that's it.

00:11:38.940 Last, their feedback loops.

00:11:40.480 How does messaging get back up to the top?

00:11:42.960 And here, the Democrats,

00:11:43.940 this is what you were saying, Wes, are in trouble.

00:11:45.840 um they message discipline but it is kind of an echo chamber as we saw with blue sky

00:11:51.800 shutting down basically and being completely empty which is a fantastic self-own um the

00:11:58.400 the irony of the democrats and i said it earlier is while they build themselves as the party of

00:12:02.540 the people it's um they they seem to be less interested in what the people on the ground are

00:12:08.720 saying uh you know you you look at trump um and the republican party that's in power right now

00:12:14.900 And sometimes, you know, I think, could you stop listening to the people so much?

00:12:18.880 Because it seems like there's a little micropole of some sort that says this or that.

00:12:23.460 And he comes out and he's like, we're doing this, we're doing that.

00:12:25.640 And the irony is, I think that the Republican Party has, because it allows at this point

00:12:32.940 more people into the coalition than the Democrats do, it's been more fractured.

00:12:38.320 And so there has to be a little bit more of a give and take compromise, willing to listen

00:12:42.180 to other people's voices.

00:12:43.040 So, right. Trump, especially like, it's so funny that people think he's a totalitarian because I would agree with you, Michael, that if anything, he errs on listening to the plebs, you know, including myself a little bit too much.

00:12:57.260 Now, I'm certainly not included in this particular class of people in Trump's ear that I'm about to use as an example.

00:13:06.360 But just recently, you know, we saw Trump backing down on his rhetoric of deportations and saying, well, you know, we're going to we're going to do.

00:13:16.820 You know, I mean, he literally was elected on mass deportations is clearly what the majority wanted.

00:13:21.620 Even some Democrats, for that matter, certainly lots of independents.

00:13:25.700 um but that's that was a big part of his platform in his campaign and now he's backing down saying

00:13:31.580 you know well but we don't want to hurt our farmers and we also don't want to hurt you know

00:13:35.860 this group and that group and it's kind of like um it reminds me of if you ever watched uh one of

00:13:41.940 the Austin Powers I forget which one but Austin Powers you know with Mike Myers um one of those

00:13:47.560 movies where uh Dr. Evil he's like everybody out everybody you know clear the room and then like

00:13:53.520 people are walking out and he's like, well, you can stay, you can stay. And he points at basically

00:13:58.120 every single person in the room, except for the one guy that he actually wants out. Um, and you

00:14:03.760 know, he's like, Oh, I can't take a hint. And I feel like, you know, I I've said it before. I'll

00:14:08.520 say it again. I am struggling a little bit to trust the plan. Um, if, uh, if we're still going

00:14:14.040 to go into world war three, if, uh, we're still going to be, you know, fighting for Israel and,

00:14:19.120 you know all these kinds of things plus we're also not going to get uh deportations and it's

00:14:25.440 one thing if it's being held up you know because uh ice needs funding and we need the you know the

00:14:30.060 big beautiful bill to pass and those kinds of things i can i can you know play ball a little

00:14:35.220 bit and make some concessions there as much as i don't want to see our debt increase um i i'm

00:14:40.900 willing to increase the debt if it's uh to decrease the immigrants uh which is a major cost

00:14:45.900 for a lot of the debt but now it's like well you know you can't help but think like well even if we 0.98

00:14:52.300 get all the deportations there's still all these different sectors within the workforce that are

00:14:58.740 going to get a pass on immigrants you know so we'll keep these immigrants we'll keep these

00:15:02.920 immigrants we'll keep these immigrants and um and so i say that just to say in terms of listening

00:15:07.840 i think it is true that the right is absolutely fractured and it is not a totalitarian it's just 0.71

00:15:14.560 ironic it's not totalitarian at all uh trump if anything i think he listens to people who are

00:15:21.660 around him too much yeah um trump can can actually be fairly easily swayed it's not like we're just

00:15:28.680 like oh who's this new guy on the stage it's been a decade at this point since he came down the

00:15:33.540 golden escalator and i think that he is consistently modeled for 10 years um that he listens and will

00:15:41.080 even be massively driven uh by whoever's in his ear and there's a lot of people in his ear yep

00:15:48.240 and on the listening piece it's it's a little bit cliche to say the actual you know like the real

00:15:53.980 the uh the real slave owners the real pro-slavery were these guys and turn it back but in the case

00:15:59.260 of the democrat party when it comes to for example like electing your presidential candidate

00:16:02.660 i mean bernie sanders versus hillary clinton there was very much so a concerted effort from

00:16:07.940 the top because super delegates helped to choose the presidential nominees. It's your regular

00:16:13.260 delegates chosen by the voter. And this huge slate, I think it might be up to a couple thousand

00:16:17.480 super delegates. And Bernie Sanders was clearly the grassroots supported candidate. This was in

00:16:22.540 2016. Well, the uniparty there, they got Hillary Clinton, they got Joe Biden. And then when Biden

00:16:28.340 had to drop out, they very much so, this was before the convention. So Barack Obama, Hillary

00:16:33.260 Clinton, Biden, they could have all said, we want to honor the will of people and have some type of

00:16:37.220 voting apparatus, they moved super efficiently. You could tell how coordinated it was. Kamala

00:16:43.100 Harris is the candidate literally to just steal our steel man and be like, you will not bring to 1.00

00:16:49.080 it a vote. You will not put somebody else in. So, I mean, you're talking the last 12 years of the

00:16:54.500 presidential candidates of this party. None of them have been what the actual members of the

00:16:59.220 democratic party have wanted. Yeah. Democrats have not had a choice. Like, like you said,

00:17:04.440 for 12 years so they they make a choice and then the uniparty says no we're going to make the choice

00:17:10.120 for you um a lot of democrats did not like hillary clinton right uh would not have picked joe biden

00:17:16.700 but i think that you know to be fair that's because the uniparty because it's elite driven

00:17:20.900 it's a few individuals that are making these decisions and the elites is out of touch as they

00:17:25.320 are i think they still do understand that like um bernie sanders was too radical you know or you

00:17:31.880 know aoc or ilhan omar you know that they're too radical so but the problem is they've radicalized

00:17:38.060 their base so they've radicalized their base in terms of who's going to vote like every like there

00:17:43.860 has not really been one candidate in 12 years that democrats are like we pick this guy we like this

00:17:50.500 guy it's literally just uh the republican on the gop side um and then everyone against you know

00:17:56.760 like we'll take joe biden you're telling me people weren't excited for hillary clinton

00:18:00.440 tripping over themselves to get to the polls yeah well to your point joel um one of the front runners

00:18:06.140 to to be nominated as joe biden's vice presidential candidates was the current mayor of los angeles

00:18:14.040 who has just been a complete clown show over the last week karen bass yes and and the elites stepped 0.98

00:18:20.500 in even there and said look guys we don't have a lot of great options but we cannot run her like

00:18:25.920 that would that would be the greatest disaster ever so they probably recognize to be honest and

00:18:31.080 to your point joel the people are bad at making decisions right like straight up they're like

00:18:35.260 we'll call ourselves the democrat party we'll tip our hat to democracy yeah but these people are 1.00

00:18:39.540 stupid yeah we do not want them picking and the democrat elites are i think perfectly aware of 1.00

00:18:44.620 that you're absolutely right i agree and they know how to play ball i do think um personally and i 0.99

00:18:50.380 know this isn't really the theme of today's episode but i do think that uh we're starting

00:18:54.600 to see and we'll see more of that same phenomenon on the right um that you know that there's going

00:19:02.100 to be more and more on the right of a base that is radicalized you know the counter revolution

00:19:07.600 um that's going to say look this is who we want um but the gop you know and the elites um as we

00:19:15.300 start to get more of them are going to say that that guy can't win you can't you can't win on that

00:19:20.860 base and i'm not just talking about like neo-nazis or something like that yeah you'll have some on

00:19:25.340 the right who are like well we want this guy because of his views on you know something super

00:19:30.300 spicy but uh you also it's not just that you also have like abolitionists for instance it's like we

00:19:35.200 want um we will not vote for uh donald trump unless uh unless he campaigns on uh there will

00:19:45.100 not be a single abortion anywhere in the country and anybody who even attempts it attempts it will

00:19:50.220 be put to death yeah um well the gop is not going to run that guy not anytime soon i'm not i'm not

00:19:55.740 saying it can never happen i i you know but and so i so this phenomenon you know it's it's been

00:20:01.580 i guess what i'm saying is that um it's it's kind of been par for the course for the left yeah and

00:20:06.940 that's true and for a while um i but it's not it's not limited to the left i know i agree it can

00:20:14.220 exist on the right and very well may soon exist on the right in fact i think that i think that

00:20:21.580 it has existed on the right and for some you know reason of divine providence trump upset the apple

00:20:28.700 cart as much as we don't you know maybe like some of the things he's doing the directions he's going

00:20:33.160 he was not supposed to be the one who won right it was supposed to be hillary it was supposed to

00:20:38.180 somebody else even for the for the um the primary debates going into it i mean they you know i i

00:20:45.060 think i remember he he almost wasn't invited to some of the original primary debates like he was

00:20:49.300 not even at all in consideration going into the 2016 presidential election so i think the reason

00:20:55.460 too with the democrats like a woman like oh we're gonna get excited for it people aren't just gonna

00:21:01.460 have that right but a man who's built a billion dollar empire that's right gets up and says hey

00:21:06.020 you, downtrodden American who had his job shipped overseas. I want to make America great again for

00:21:11.320 you. That's the type of thing that can push past the elites. But it's Hillary Clinton. I don't even

00:21:16.720 know what she ran. It's like, come on, get out there with her nasally voice. It's like, eh, 1.00

00:21:21.520 yeah. I want to close this section by just reading a phrase that I came across while I was

00:21:30.140 researching and thinking this through and it was this um democrats enforce or try to enforce their

00:21:36.360 vision republicans negotiate with it and there's strengths and weaknesses right there you know we

00:21:42.460 can't be ideological we know that politics is a game of compromise of trying to achieve the best

00:21:47.500 ends possible the best available tools but i thought that was insightful that for a long time

00:21:52.560 um the reason the country one of the reasons the country is in the state that it's in

00:21:57.140 is that people on the left believe in their cause they believe in their vision and they believe in

00:22:02.540 exercising political will to achieve it right um and and the right has maybe the right has actually

00:22:09.360 behind the scenes had that as well maybe that's the problem is their their vision has been the

00:22:14.020 post-war globalists like that probably is the case um but at least the the champions that the

00:22:20.060 conservatives put forward they tend to very they say one thing and then they very quickly back away

00:22:25.020 from that um and and end up disappointing a lot of voters kind of over and over and over as a

00:22:30.220 pattern and i think like you just it's like playing chess you have to have different pieces

00:22:34.140 on the board bishops and rooks and knights and and with the democrats like you you do have the

00:22:39.380 the true bona fide ideologues that like they actually have conviction um it's terrible you

00:22:46.040 know but like you have your aocs johan omars and like i mean they they like for them it's it's not

00:22:51.660 just uh winning it's it's not just you know what like what can i run that you know is within the

00:22:57.360 overton window like that i mean they're they're perfectly willing to be far outside of you know

00:23:02.740 what would be publicly acceptable just strictly on the basis of ideology and and their convictions

00:23:09.360 and so even if the american public aren't even close they're like well like um we believe we

00:23:15.240 genuinely believe in our heart of hearts that you know gay furries are going to make america great

00:23:19.760 again and we stand for gay furries and whereas on the right you know but my point is you have that

00:23:25.620 but then you have chuck schumer you know and you have the pelosis and you have you know all the 0.57

00:23:30.020 people but on the right it's like you you only have the chuck schumers and the nancy pelosi right

00:23:35.720 you don't all you have on the right i feel like is the career politicians who are just like what

00:23:42.640 what uh what works you know like let's just we just want to win an election and we don't care

00:23:48.080 if we have to compromise every single one of our virtues to do it um we we just want to win

00:23:53.680 and and ironically like that kind of strategy um has you know in many ways all it's produced is

00:24:01.080 losses um because it's you know it's like what do you stand for you know and trump is the first guy

00:24:06.720 who actually had something that he was standing for and and it worked out you know and he won but

00:24:12.680 when i think you know macro picture at least the last 20 30 40 years it seems like

00:24:18.180 democrats there's the career politicians to be sure and and they're you know gonna you know

00:24:24.820 they're gonna actually run a campaign especially at a presidential level that's within the overton

00:24:30.620 but then there's also an you know the squad there's there's a section of the democrat party

00:24:35.980 that truly functions on ideology and conviction and is constantly so you have one apparatus

00:24:42.500 that's that's um it's the mechanics it's actually getting the w getting the win but then there's

00:24:48.140 the other side that's uh propagandizing and shaping the culture to push them perpetually

00:24:53.280 further and further left on the right it's it seems like it's only the career politicians it's

00:24:59.180 only the apparatus of just working the election and trying to win but no one within the right

00:25:05.360 coalition until trump that actually is saying no i'm actually trying to push the call and shape

00:25:10.320 the culture influence the culture to move further right um and that's something that we've lacked as

00:25:16.300 we start to get that though and i think i don't think trump is like the end all be all i think

00:25:21.120 in many ways he's the prelude and yeah he just opened the door but he just opened the door

00:25:25.040 exactly and it's kind of like the first example of an ideologue and he's really not that ideological

00:25:31.640 but a guy who had a positive vision not just let's win an election but a positive vision of what

00:25:37.680 what mayor america could be the first guy in decades on the right to have that and uh and but

00:25:43.880 now that we have i'm hoping yeah uh you know limitless you know perpetual fracturing um is

00:25:51.320 is not good for you know uh practically getting something done and winning elections but i'm

00:25:56.760 hoping that we actually can have at least some fracturing in the sense of having some guys who

00:26:02.800 can win elections and know what it takes and, you know, know where the American public is so that

00:26:08.220 they can be shrewd, so that they can be strategic, but also having some guys even further to the

00:26:14.080 right of Trump with conviction and, you know, and actually have a positive vision of trying to

00:26:20.520 not just win the next election, but shape the public in such a way that the Overton is now

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00:30:18.180 you said at the end that got me thinking was how the parties deal with their more ideological

00:30:25.000 people. And for a long time, both parties have an establishment, right? They've got the elite,

00:30:30.720 the congressmen, the politicians, the career politicians. But I think for a long time,

00:30:36.060 the elite on the right has been dragged forward by the ideological, sorry, on the left. The elite

00:30:42.540 on the left have been dragged forward by the ideological on the left. And the elite or the

00:30:47.660 establishment on the right, the Republican Party, have been blocking the more ideological on the

00:30:54.420 right. And so I think what we see is kind of on this side, there's a funnel, right? And this is

00:31:01.720 actually why the Democratic Party has been able to stay in power for so long, because you've got

00:31:05.860 a broad base, and then it shoots its ideological people out of this funnel, but they're able to

00:31:12.520 turn their funnel, right? On the right, we have the GOP, and they're like a volcano, right? And

00:31:19.620 so it was flat, and there's ideological pressure, and it's starting to bubble and bubble and bubble.

00:31:23.740 And I think I hope you're right. I hope that Trump was the first kind of shoot into the air that will open a crater that that more can come out of.

00:31:33.000 So, yeah, the question is going to be with the DNC, whether the establishment is going to be able to rein in the more ideological Gen Z members. 0.54

00:31:43.480 So something interesting, this was a little a couple of weeks ago, maybe.

00:31:48.020 But David Hogg was appointed. He's the first Gen Z appointed to this sort of power.

00:31:53.740 He was appointed the vice president of the Democratic National Committee last year. 0.52

00:31:59.300 Now, he was he has gained notoriety and fame.

00:32:03.420 He's been an influencer on the left for a number of years.

00:32:06.320 He was a survivor of the Parkland shooting in Florida in 2018.

00:32:11.460 And on the back of that, he started an organization for gun control and to stop gun violence and all of these things.

00:32:17.640 And so he's had a voice for a long time and has become really, really popular with the progressive younger Democrats or leftists.

00:32:26.340 And so the the party, realizing that we've got people like Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders as our figureheads, they actually elected him as the vice president of the Democratic National Committee.

00:32:41.020 Wes, is it committee or convention? I think it's convention. Convention. Convention. I keep saying committee.

00:32:47.640 Now, he did something really interesting. He took the $20 million budget that he had been given and he publicly came out and said, all right, thank you very much for the position. Obviously, what you're telling me is you want younger, fresh ideas like I have. So I'm going to be actively primarying and campaigning against any Democrat who's up for re-election in the next election cycle who is too normie.

00:33:11.780 so he took his 20 million dollar budget and just came out hard and made you know a list these are

00:33:18.240 the people that we're going to primary we're going to get them out and we're going to get the real

00:33:21.680 ideological purists in their place well where's first act of office reyoboam david hogg

00:33:30.300 probably that there's a good argument to be made yep absolutely so um this sent the democrats into

00:33:37.020 a panic. And of course, all of these congressmen are contacting the Democratic National Convention

00:33:43.640 and saying, wait, what's going on? I'm going to lose my seat. The vice president is actively

00:33:49.860 campaigning against me. You know, what about all the promises you made me? What about, you know,

00:33:53.040 all these deals we've had? And so this really threw the Democrats into a situation because

00:34:02.080 this garnered a lot of support from the younger Gen Z, more ideological people. Yes, we're finally

00:34:07.160 getting what we've actually wanted. We're going to push past the old Democratic positions. We're

00:34:12.080 going to finally get the new ones. We're going to get some people in there who are aligned with us

00:34:15.540 ideologically. And so the question is, what happens? Well, David Hogg came out just a week

00:34:23.700 or two ago, maybe two weeks ago, and announced, I will not be seeking a second term this summer

00:34:29.700 when my term as vice president of the convention comes up and it seems very altruistic. Well,

00:34:35.140 the reality is behind the scenes, the convention had already organized a vote that was already

00:34:41.280 going to go against him. And so he basically said, don't oust me. I'll just, I'll serve out

00:34:47.460 my last couple of months. I won't cause a ruckus and you can, I won't seek reelection. You can put

00:34:53.540 someone in. The old Nixon play. The old Nixon play. That was not fired. I resigned. That's

00:34:58.720 right. So that all seemed interesting. But what really is interesting is an audio conversation

00:35:07.000 of, this was a Zoom meeting, but there's a conversation between David Hogg, the vice

00:35:12.780 president of the convention, and the president of the convention. This conversation between the two

00:35:19.500 of them was leaked recently. So we're going to listen to this. It's about just under two minutes.

00:35:25.160 And the first voice that you're going to hear is the president of the convention.

00:35:29.400 And then I don't know that we actually hear a lot from David Hogg, but this guy is just explaining the trouble that David Hogg and his kind of ideological fervor have caused for the party.

00:35:39.260 OK, so, Nate, let's go ahead and roll this. It's not video, so you'll just hear it.

00:35:43.580 And I'll say, look, it has plenty of warts and we're all trying to change those for sure.

00:35:49.480 but um the longer we continue this fight the harder it is for us to actually do what we all

00:35:55.300 want to do which is make a difference in this country again so um i i deeply respect you david

00:36:01.700 i i too was looking forward to working with you but this has created a situation and i'll be very

00:36:07.500 honest with you for the first time in my hundred days on this job and jessica knows this um

00:36:13.320 i i say the other night i said to myself for the first time i don't know if i want to do this

00:36:23.420 anymore and partly partly not because of the stress and all the naysayers right i'm used to

00:36:29.840 that i've spent 14 years as a chair i'm used to getting beat up on but you know this is this is

00:36:36.380 really um everything you know from from this election this credentials report and how malcolm's

00:36:43.900 been treated in this to uh you know the fact uh the election itself how shasti and and gina were

00:36:50.440 treated in this um i i'm just quite frustrated to be in this position because what you've done

00:36:58.420 whether you like it or not or know it or not david is i'm trying to no one knows who the hell i am

00:37:03.920 right i'm trying to get my sea legs underneath of me and actually uh develop any amount of

00:37:10.880 credibility so i can go out there and raise the money and do the job i need to to put ourselves

00:37:15.260 in a position to win and again i don't think you intended this but you essentially destroyed any

00:37:20.400 chance i have to show the leadership that i need to so it's really frustrating

00:37:27.220 that was from politico and if you've heard at the end he starts to get emotional right to cry

00:37:39.360 or um yeah most masculine award yeah no it makes sense that he's a democrat that seems like that's

00:37:46.400 what when i think of democrat men uh talking in private i imagine crying yeah so that's uh that

00:37:53.100 was just a confirmation checks out yeah yeah yeah so any comments from you two on that before i kind

00:37:58.600 of draw a couple of thoughts out of it this crisis is incredible you'll get to some of it on the gen

00:38:03.800 c stats but the crisis within the party apparatus now there will always be like republican does not

00:38:09.140 of course encapsulate everyone that's on the right wing that's for traditional values all of that

00:38:13.480 nor does the democrat party as an official party apparatus capture all the left wing but within

00:38:18.820 the party itself. So the structure that gives funds to candidates, that allows you to caucus

00:38:23.120 with them, that organizes a meeting every year, that puts forward the candidates. They are in an

00:38:28.260 incredible disarray. And this is God's mercy that our enemies are being put to flight. Their own

00:38:33.900 radical ideology has left them in this space where the reason we all know David Hogg's name for the

00:38:39.060 record was the Parkland school shooting in Florida. So he was one of the survivors. It's doubted

00:38:44.000 whether he was anywhere close to what happened, even in the school at the time. But we know his

00:38:48.380 name because he went on a huge tour speaking up about gun violence. And so that, that kind of

00:38:53.120 radical ideology there then gave birth to this man that is not at all intelligent, not at all

00:38:58.140 inspiring, but he is the, it's the victim narrative. It's probably the only white male that they

00:39:02.480 somehow find, found a way to make into the victim. But that own, that, that ideology is now the 0.53

00:39:08.240 cancer that is literally, and you're hearing it on this call, destroying them alive. They can't

00:39:13.000 have a unified message. They're torn up by infighting. Like we have our problems in the

00:39:17.000 Republican party too. We need an America first, a Christian nationalist platform to come out of

00:39:21.740 MAGA and it needs to happen quickly. So we have our problems, but in their camp, they are in 0.85

00:39:26.900 tatters. And I think that is God's mercy that they will not be organized. They will not have

00:39:31.460 a coherent message. I don't expect anything great out of them, anything powerful, anything

00:39:38.640 populist for a long, long time until they remake it until it's something entirely new.

00:39:42.900 Yeah. Wes, I didn't have a chance to research this. So from your listening or reading,

00:39:48.360 did you see if there's been any fallout related to the announcement that he's not going to

00:39:53.720 continue? I would imagine that this would upset him and the more ideological young

00:39:58.560 Gen Zers and ideological leftists who are part of the party. But I should have. I didn't take 1.00

00:40:03.620 the time to look and see if there's been any fallout. It's funny enough, the most radical

00:40:06.720 elements that I've seen, they're celebrating it because he's a white male and they're celebrating

00:40:11.020 him not coming back as an opportunity for more women and people of color to take lead in these

00:40:16.020 spaces so i haven't seen like no they got the best of us but rather hey he did a good job we

00:40:22.800 recognize he was a victim of gun violence because we can now we can but this is great because we can

00:40:27.480 do more well to that point the reason the the way that the convention was planning to oust him

00:40:34.860 was on a procedure which was that they realized that having him a white male in the position

00:40:42.520 meant that they weren't filling a quota that they had for DEI and so the the way they were going to

00:40:50.880 get rid of him was saying oh whoops we've we recounted the numbers we forgot we're one woman

00:40:56.240 or black person or minority or whatever short you've got to go so to your point Wes undoubtedly

00:41:02.220 the person that replaces david hogg will be a dei hire of some sort yep yep incredible okay

00:41:10.180 trouble yeah so that to me is very interesting because we will see if the establishment is able

00:41:18.020 to wriggle its way out or if they like you said earlier much earlier west um have created a

00:41:24.200 situation that they cannot pull out of where the ideological people have the reins even joel as

00:41:29.800 you were mentioning like AOC, she's part of the squad. Yes. But what was so remarkable about her

00:41:34.240 was she went within one election to being one of the most prominent voices in the democratic party,

00:41:39.660 you know, and she's one of the most ideological, most shrill. Um, so she, she leapfrogged ahead,

00:41:45.280 ahead of a lot of career politicians, same with David Hogg, things like that. So they do have

00:41:50.260 a problem on their hands. Yep. Yep. Do you get into at all the whole, uh, find the Democrats,

00:41:55.180 Joe Rogan effect? I don't talk about it now. I've read some about that, but now might be a good time

00:42:00.820 to talk about that if you want to bring it up. Just to kind of illustrate the point that we're

00:42:03.660 making in another sense, Democrats, there's, I think, $20 million set aside into a fund,

00:42:08.420 and it's for them to say, as they termed it, to find our Joe Rogan, because they recognize

00:42:14.020 that a lot of the voices, this would be on podcasting, this would be on shows, this would

00:42:17.860 be on TV, and this would be on radio. The big ones, you're Theo Vaughn, you're Joe Rogan,

00:42:22.440 you're Tucker Carlson, all of those, they're mostly men and they're mostly right-wing coded.

00:42:28.000 And so they look at the landscape and you've got a couple of guys, you've got Young Turks,

00:42:31.420 there's a couple of other shows. They're not household names. And so they've realized like,

00:42:36.260 holy cow, the youth, like you said earlier, Gen Z is going to be a huge voting block,

00:42:40.620 the biggest one. And we have nobody out there that people are like, guys, babe, wake up,

00:42:45.580 new Joe Rogan just dropped. They don't have anyone like that. And so they're literally

00:42:48.940 spending 20 million dollars and the person they put in charge of it she's leading she's front 1.00

00:42:53.280 facing don't even know her name but it's an overweight woman that lectures young men about 1.00

00:42:58.620 not being democratic said we have an image problem young men aren't interested in us young women too

00:43:03.940 young women are really revolting against feminism we've got a big problem on our hands what should

00:43:08.520 we do i've got a great idea we lecture them and just another example of how out of touch they are 0.99

00:43:14.760 And so they're shoveling cash just into a fire, like find us our own Joe Rogan, find us someone

00:43:20.040 more diverse. And all that's happening is the ship that's going down. And as the ship's going

00:43:23.940 down, it's also catching on fire. Well, and that's also just, that's the pattern of the

00:43:28.520 Democrat party and leftist, you know, Marxist for, you know, the last 80 years is the right

00:43:36.560 builds institutions and then they co-opt them. Right. Right. And so if you think about it like

00:43:41.860 this um yeah so they don't have a joe rogan they don't have a theo vaughn you know they don't have

00:43:46.420 that equivalent and that's why you have gavin newsome you know going on charlie kirk and

00:43:49.660 admitting like yeah we realize you know that we don't uh we don't really have any podcast you

00:43:54.720 know platforms not not any you know that are uh legitimate and you know so we just get sound bites

00:44:00.220 you know i go on you know nbc news or whatever and you know and it's a 30 second clip or a three

00:44:05.840 minute clip you know meanwhile you're over here every single day you know for three hours

00:44:09.780 podcasting and um it's like yeah that's true but uh the way that that happened lest we forget

00:44:16.080 is you know there was media legacy media news stations shows and in addition to to that

00:44:22.960 entertainment hollywood disney you know children's and they actually did co-opt all of it right all

00:44:30.060 of it from every single children's program to every single hollywood slop you know uh blockbuster

00:44:36.200 production to every single news station uh and i'm gonna kind of include talk right i'm gonna

00:44:42.160 include fox news in that too i you know like i mean it's basically you know leftists you know

00:44:47.180 it's certainly liberalism um and you know and borderline uh to the left you know and so there's

00:44:52.380 just some american flags once in a while so my yeah exactly so they my point is uh they took

00:44:57.120 everything and so it's not like when you think of podcasting it was the right had nothing left

00:45:03.600 there was nothing there was nothing there was no institution in terms of news and media and

00:45:09.080 entertainment left to the right uh it was all co-opted and so it's not like the right uh from

00:45:15.560 a strategic standpoint got in the back room it was like um you know what can we do that's more

00:45:20.480 effective than you know than uh owning you know the three news stations in existence that are

00:45:26.740 played on cable tv and everyone's living like it wasn't like like a design it was just it was

00:45:32.360 desperation it wasn't so it wasn't like intention um it was it was simply that we don't have any

00:45:38.940 other options so like all right we're podcasting well you know then podcasts started to to you know

00:45:44.180 to to take on you know steam and become more popular but i don't think it's just because

00:45:49.780 of the format i think the format like there certainly is a market for that but i i think

00:45:55.420 it's because ideas on the right are true and and there's always going to be at least some sector

00:46:02.180 of the population that is attracted towards the truth wherever you could find it i think if

00:46:07.100 podcasts all become slop you know leftist garbage um and uh sean hannity you know like grows a pair

00:46:14.500 and and says some things that are true and right wing um then all of a sudden people will be 0.98

00:46:20.080 watching sean hannity again and you'll have even gen z were watching tucker right and then he left

00:46:24.960 exactly and you would literally have gen z signing up you know like how do i get cable tv

00:46:29.780 and so like i don't i don't think it's so much the format yeah right um i don't think it's it's

00:46:36.200 i think it's it's the messaging it's the content there will always be now there are times when

00:46:41.640 many people are lying and suppressing the truth and in works of unrighteousness and therefore

00:46:46.360 it's a remnant it's a minority but in any given moment in god's providence any any different time

00:46:52.720 period throughout this gospel age there's always going to be a market for truth and and so i think

00:46:59.220 you know democrats again i think they're they're going about it the wrong way which is great you

00:47:03.880 know and and fully what i anticipated um because you can count on them to you know to get things

00:47:09.120 wrong but they're they're gonna oh oh so the the you know the secret sauce for trump winning the

00:47:14.300 popular vote in 2024 right was the format right right the platform of podcasting um so we'll just

00:47:22.280 do that great right i keep thinking that that's like please get michelle michelle obama on more

00:47:28.540 podcast you're telling me call her daddy didn't just cement kamala's victory right there it's

00:47:33.440 tough for me to believe yeah so so that's i i think that's it's basically the right start

00:47:38.660 something the left takes it right there's always this this perpetual leftward drift unless it's

00:47:43.920 unless they're absolutely committed and there have to be all these mechanisms um otherwise

00:47:49.880 it's just compromise a leftward drift and eventually they co-opt it entirely they take it

00:47:55.420 and you know and then and then that's not left to you there's no there's no chance if you're on the

00:48:00.780 right of getting into you know um msnbc or something and so then you you start a podcast

00:48:07.440 with seven followers but eventually over the course of a decade then that becomes a big thing

00:48:11.900 and then the left's going to come for that too and so my my my hypothesis my prediction is um

00:48:19.000 this 20 million dollars going towards pocket is i think it's great i wish i wish they had uh you

00:48:25.600 know um designated as a line item 200 million dollars like the whole we could do more like i

00:48:31.840 mean it might as well say like um 20 million dollars uh in the garbage because it like it

00:48:37.740 is going to do nothing well something else happened though i mean everything that that

00:48:41.220 we've said so far i think is right but one other thing happened that i think is to the point that

00:48:47.920 you made Joel that what really is going on here is people are saying true things right and the

00:48:53.720 thing that happened was some existing podcasts like Rogan and like Russell Brand started not

00:49:01.880 they themselves becoming right-wing but they started entertaining right-wing or truthful

00:49:07.640 ideas having guests on that's what it was and that didn't tank their numbers right in fact if

00:49:13.360 anything it helped and so to your point it was this idea that that truth had been suppressed and

00:49:18.620 so a conservative would even go listen to russell brand if he had some guest on even though he's a

00:49:24.240 had been a new agey weird right druggie you know and i'll listen to him just whatever the platform

00:49:31.260 i think in many ways is irrelevant it's just it's the messaging where can i find truth so like even

00:49:36.240 now like there's already again there's a transition in terms of the you know the technology itself

00:49:40.560 i think that's less relevant so like right now there's um uh you know transition to like there's

00:49:46.200 all these guys going viral on tiktok with you know like 45 second little videos where they watch

00:49:51.880 something and then they react to it and they're not giving some deep thought out analysis they're

00:49:56.680 literally saying like three sentences but the three sentences they're saying is what everyone's

00:50:01.060 thinking in there and they're willing to say it out loud it's true and so then what happens their

00:50:05.280 little tick tock channel blows up into the stratosphere it's like what what uh what in-depth

00:50:10.760 you know uh brilliant cultural analysis is being offered by you know this this you know prestigious

00:50:16.940 individual and and turns out the dude it's like a 22 year old single white guy who's just watching

00:50:23.040 a video and then saying um yeah that's ridiculous round all all these people up and throw them in

00:50:28.520 prison right and everyone's like yes well the the left has their 20 million million dollar chest

00:50:34.480 the right has a former you guys know twitch these are guys that play video games so aswin gold he

00:50:42.060 was a big twitch guy but he was just games now his are the little clips right that are and that you

00:50:48.320 can't fabricate that sort of thing right the 20 million dollars is not going to create uh an

00:50:54.040 environment where young men who play video games and then hear this guy getting mad about something

00:50:59.080 conservative right keep clicking on his hot takes his 30 second hot takes because right

00:51:04.420 wing thought is concise and simple it's a joke but it's true well the left can't mean why can't

00:51:11.440 they because their ideas be it about white privilege be it about structural racism be it

00:51:16.680 about the the patriarchy none of that is is simple you have to say like well actually if you read the

00:51:22.580 critical race theories and you go back and and it's and it's worked into the structures such

00:51:26.880 that racism is it's an unconscious bias that's learned that is so much longer than simply saying

00:51:32.640 hey some people are different right yeah it takes more words to lie yep that takes more time it takes

00:51:37.620 fewer in an attention span world people do not have that long like if we go outside and i say

00:51:43.360 you see that the sky it's blue right and and there's just immediate consensus but the guy

00:51:50.060 who wants to say well actually it's green he can't just actually a spectrum of colors that

00:51:55.020 then explain why this thing that's so blatantly untrue is actually true and so he has to explain

00:52:01.840 why your eyes are lying to you you know and why it's actually green and that just simply takes

00:52:07.800 more time and more words and and so like yeah so the right is always at an advantage in the sense

00:52:13.780 that um truth truth is you're right it like it takes fewer words it's simpler um and it also

00:52:22.140 doesn't take somebody who's phd i mean it's great like the right need we need our intellectuals we

00:52:27.620 need our academics uh we we need institutions and think tanks and we're going to have to build a lot

00:52:32.400 of that up again we have some of that but very little by comparison to the left and everything

00:52:37.020 that they've co-opted and hijacked over the last four or five decades um and it'll be uh imperative

00:52:42.340 that we seek to build those things up again uh in the future but at the same time like you you'll

00:52:46.880 see the memes you know on x where it's like it's like some you know it's like from like a video

00:52:51.160 game or something it's like some giant like colossal titan you know um and it is the size

00:52:56.660 of a mountain um and it's this tiny little warrior you know like human size standing in front of it

00:53:01.560 and it's almost a joke it's like david and goliath but on steroids you know like not just like this

00:53:05.740 guy's twice my size but like a thousand times and and then for the colossal titan monster whatever

00:53:11.580 it's like you know it's like all of legacy media you know and all uh every you know ivy league you

00:53:19.080 know uh university and this and that and blah blah blah blah blah and 20 million dollars towards

00:53:24.220 podcasting and you list all these and and then uh the other guy over here it's um it's you know the

00:53:30.360 kid who's says the emperor has no clothes it's like and so like who's facing him uh it's uh

00:53:35.740 bubba you know who's 17 years old and works with his dad on you know um on a shrimp boat you know

00:53:42.340 uh saying uh well actually uh we shouldn't have a foreign invasion at our southern border yeah and

00:53:48.420 it's like and you can't you can't stop bubba because he's he has the truth right on his side

00:53:53.400 so now that does to me that begs the question though um then why why did why was the left so

00:54:00.640 successful for so long you know because they've been lying all along but i think this kind of

00:54:05.680 gets back to just the heart of this entire episode is at first it maybe didn't require as many words

00:54:11.580 and it didn't require such the lies are smaller yeah you didn't exactly you didn't need because

00:54:15.820 now we're talking about you know multi multi-billion dollar propaganda machine right because

00:54:22.140 when you're trying to get people to believe that boys are girls right the complete opposite of

00:54:27.260 truth that takes a lot of indoctrination that takes like it's like we're never like everyone's

00:54:33.460 gonna have to get a phd and we're gonna have to fund everyone getting the phd you know because

00:54:37.900 it's gonna take literally seven years of 40 hours a week in the classroom to convince someone that

00:54:43.940 a boy is actually a girl and a girl is actually a boy uh but at first you know what you're right

00:54:49.500 michael that's that's what i was gonna say is that at first if it's just if it's just you know

00:54:54.360 if you're actually more conservative and traditional and in line with the

00:54:58.900 Christian faith and all these kinds of things,

00:55:00.640 you're in line with truth.

00:55:02.140 And at first you're just trying to get people to compromise an inch.

00:55:05.520 Yeah.

00:55:05.960 Well then that's,

00:55:06.700 that doesn't necessarily require,

00:55:08.220 you know,

00:55:08.460 the meme where it's just a wall of text,

00:55:10.260 you know,

00:55:10.600 that requires two sentences instead of one.

00:55:13.260 Right.

00:55:13.580 And then it's three to one and then it's four.

00:55:16.220 But by the time you're saying four,

00:55:17.380 people know the three already,

00:55:18.680 at least they've heard the three.

00:55:20.140 Exactly.

00:55:20.640 Yes.

00:55:21.020 And it compounds and you're building on.

00:55:23.020 Yeah.

00:55:23.140 so i think um i think you know because i was just you know that question was starting to

00:55:28.200 rise in my own mind i was thinking if everything we're saying is true that the truth is just so

00:55:34.100 much more effective than lies then how did the lies win out in the first place and i mean we

00:55:38.560 know theologically because people are sinners that's that's a big part of it uh but also i

00:55:44.080 think at first they didn't have to lie as much and now they're lying more and more and more and more

00:55:49.760 and more and eventually it kind of reaches a tipping point where it's just um it's not viable

00:55:55.460 it's not sustainable if you read the 2004 democratic party platform i reread it recently

00:56:00.060 for an episode it's very straightforward because at that point you're not talking gender ideology

00:56:04.500 you're not talking homosexuality it's mostly focused on the american family and cutting taxes

00:56:09.860 and probably those are unions or labor parties so strong protections and then expansion of health

00:56:14.760 care and there are problems with that and you would get into the details but to your point

00:56:18.440 those big lies they came along and they didn't really live very long they had a shelf life of

00:56:23.260 about five to ten years that's true but with billions of dollars of propaganda it got about

00:56:27.900 seven to ten years and the elite institutions yep not a good roi yeah that's true that and that's

00:56:34.400 all it was ever going to be able to yeah they're not coming back from this no they're not coming

00:56:38.400 back good all right well we want to conclude the episode with um some interesting data about gen

00:56:43.500 z itself so yes we'll hit our last commercial break and then when we come back we'll we'll

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01:00:44.240 right uh so we're gonna wrap up here with some uh data from i will admit it is a liberal source

01:00:51.280 from doc box.com i almost said docs.com which actually is kind of true too you know vox.com so

01:00:58.160 Take it for what it's worth. But I think it's some interesting observations. And they're pulling some polls together that Harvard did and that Yale did and a couple other places. So they're looking through some larger polls from various sources. They were very clear in the article to say they're nonpartisan sources like Harvard and Yale. So just, you know, I'm sure we're all relieved to hear that.

01:01:21.100 um but they they point out vox the vox article points out that the data seem to reflect that

01:01:28.140 when we talk about gen z which a lot of people are looking at right now for reasons that we said

01:01:32.500 earlier in the episode um there actually are kind of two gen z's yes right now um so i'm just gonna

01:01:38.540 i'm gonna read some quotes and women that is true and that's going to come through but but it's out

01:01:44.260 it's also by age no you're right yep so i'm going to read these two quotes and then we'll give our

01:01:49.100 commentary on it and that's, and then we'll, we'll wind things down. So this is the first quote from

01:01:54.520 the Vox article. It says this, according to the spring Yale youth poll, younger Gen Z men and

01:02:00.960 women tend to have more Republican coded opinions than their older Gen Z peers on a range of policy

01:02:06.600 issues. They tend to view Trump more favorably side with the Republican position on some policies 0.52

01:02:11.440 like immigration, trans women in college sports and Ukraine by higher margins and are more likely

01:02:17.340 to consider casting a vote for a generic republican candidate than older gen z members younger gen z

01:02:24.140 is also the segment of americans where religiosity seems to be holding steady if not outright

01:02:30.320 increasing as i've reported before young gen z this is an incredible statement young gen z men

01:02:36.660 are holding on or returning to organized religion in rates high enough to slow down a decades-long

01:02:43.380 trend towards religious dissociation in america wow which is quite remarkable but it's all

01:02:49.920 something we've talked about on this show before right real quick what is uh young gen z like what

01:02:55.000 what age are we talking to 34 is the demographic okay so this is going to be 18 to maybe mid 20s

01:02:59.640 oh i count as gen z then you are yes yes like i'm 30 and like most of the time i'm counting

01:03:04.700 millennial but according to this estimation yeah i'm part of the older gen z um i guess it depends 0.51

01:03:09.220 on the yeah i guess you would be but your older gen z which means you're gay well and that that's

01:03:16.000 actually kind of interesting because i i didn't look at all the data but i'm just going from

01:03:20.660 memory here it seems like the older gen z are actually quite radicalized towards the left

01:03:25.540 right like more than maybe millennials or something like that they are really the true believers in

01:03:31.460 what was going on during the gender ideology during the blm things like that and that's when

01:03:35.900 they were teenagers that's what was capturing their imagination and and to some degree this

01:03:40.380 makes sense because really all of us want a cause to live for right you know and so if that was the

01:03:46.500 cause i've heard that things imprint on you in your teenage years that are almost impossible to

01:03:51.500 get rid of your location the kind of music that you heard like it really is true that music that

01:03:56.620 you listen to in your teenage years have a dopamine effect on you all through the rest of

01:04:02.080 your life doesn't matter if there's superior music music or objectively better music the fact

01:04:08.280 that it printed on you in your teenage years really sticks with you for a long time it really

01:04:12.380 i can confirm it does not matter if it's objectively superior music because still to this day do not

01:04:18.420 let your children listen to rap dave matthews i am right there with you i'm like i hear like

01:04:23.860 boom boom boom and i'm like this is so good and anybody who's not like in my age range is like

01:04:31.020 but is it no no we're not going to go down that road i'm like yes i do think to your point though

01:04:37.000 the tail end of millennials because they were the last kind of group that had a good they were

01:04:41.040 generally if they came of age here in about 2015 to 2020 right they had a decent job and they were

01:04:45.840 probably able to afford a home yep prior to the covid housing crisis yeah so they got the house

01:04:49.940 they probably got a decent job they're probably making mid hundred thousands on average so they're

01:04:54.460 not feeling it the way gen z is right and i don't think that's really going to change like gen z has

01:04:58.560 a lot of incentive to upset the apple cart young men i mean the options for dating are either

01:05:02.960 women that are older and have been ran through or women that are younger and are feminists

01:05:06.900 so they don't have great options for datings or they're furries or they're other men goodness 0.86

01:05:11.460 gracious terrible options for dating terrible options for jobs taken by all the illegal 0.97

01:05:15.240 immigrants tech is downsizing with ai house they'll never own a home they'll never even own a 1.00

01:05:20.280 condo right of course they're going to burn the system down right they don't have anything to lose 1.00

01:05:24.720 really really hard their entire life yep they might be able to mow my backyard

01:05:28.860 although although with not your backyard i want to be clear not to say your backyard

01:05:34.760 but with the i i did see i know we're ripping on trump for the illegals but i saw an article today

01:05:39.800 about a town in nebraska where basically the entire population of illegals cleared out

01:05:45.620 and the oh yeah i saw that and all the americans who americans don't even want these jobs they're

01:05:51.700 not they're too high and mighty not willing and literally the next day there was a line out the

01:05:56.320 door with a bunch of you know salt of the earth americana people you know obviously a little bit

01:06:03.140 you know economically lower right lower class but they're literally saying please yeah like we would

01:06:08.500 have applied sooner but we you wouldn't hire us because you were picking the illegals over us

01:06:13.640 and now that there's the option turns out americans actually are willing to work these jobs

01:06:18.520 we've been lied to this entire time the whole time americans actually would have been willing

01:06:23.820 to work those jobs and we need to do an episode on propaganda it is so powerful it's crazy and

01:06:29.460 you can use it for good so it's not like propaganda is bad no we need our own propaganda for good ends

01:06:34.120 that's even better than theirs yep and shockingly the wages for those jobs increased from what they

01:06:40.660 had been paying the illegals to what they had to then pay um you know because they needed work

01:06:45.720 number one so they had to pay more and they had to follow wage laws and you know things but here's

01:06:50.320 the thing it's like okay so one but you're actually paying an a real american it's it like it is a

01:06:56.560 service to your country like you can sleep at night it was like oh well i'm having to pay three

01:07:00.960 more dollars an hour yeah but like but to my my fellow kin like like my my countrymen that's

01:07:07.260 that's good in its own right but then secondly i bet you know this will take more time for the

01:07:12.540 verdicts come back in we see the results but i bet you they end up getting more business too

01:07:16.680 because now it's like everyone who's patroning your business um like one benefit is like oh i

01:07:22.260 can actually uh you speak english i can actually talk to you you know that's kind of nice and so

01:07:27.300 like if i go to a grocery store and it's a bunch of people who look like americans and they speak

01:07:33.220 english and they're polite and they're waving hello um i'm going to be far more likely even

01:07:38.040 if the prices are slightly higher to want to go and shop there again, then going down to, you know,

01:07:43.800 you know, whatever Quickie Mart, you know, run by Ubar, you know, like who can't even speak my 0.93

01:07:51.040 language. We do have a heritage American only grocery store. It's called Whole Foods, but 0.99

01:07:55.060 it's not Costco and it's not HVB. But that place is also a lib paradise. But yeah, that's what I

01:08:01.000 was going to say. It's like, are those Americans? Can you imagine if businesses, they speak English

01:08:06.520 barely if businesses started saying you know what we're going to level with you we've had 0.81

01:08:11.460 10 of our our labor force has been illegals and it was for economic reasons and it was in but we 1.00

01:08:18.440 are ending that and we want you to know our local town we're high we're replacing all of them with 1.00

01:08:23.620 people from this town because we we're sorry we want to love this town like that would that would

01:08:29.900 garner so much goodwill get so much business the whole town would be like all right like all like

01:08:35.320 all the prices are 15 percent higher and i'm coming yep yeah it's amazing it's not that hard

01:08:42.120 yep um you just like here's the prerequisite you have to not have an undying hatred towards your

01:08:48.340 own people yeah so you know it's a fairly high bar is high you know for americans that specialize

01:08:54.180 in hating their own people but but that's all it takes yeah let's hit this second um quote about

01:08:59.940 the divide in gen z so nate this is going to be quote number um three

01:09:05.620 uh this says the data we have found from the last election suggests broadly at least two types of

01:09:15.700 young voters old gen z more democratic more progressive and young gen z more trump curious

01:09:22.080 and more skeptical of the status quo that internal split roughly between here it is

01:09:27.040 those aged 18 to 24 and in the latter camp and 25 to 29 in the former. So this is actually capping

01:09:34.820 it. Jess, Wes, maybe you're not Gen Z. Oh, so then that puts you right in the millennial.

01:09:40.100 I knew I was a millennial, but I allowed it. It hasn't dissipated post-election. So that's

01:09:44.420 since the election to this spring. It is still showing up in polling and surveys. The point that

01:09:50.880 the article was making here was this was not just pre-election hype. It seems to be bearing out

01:09:55.760 even after the election as trump is one thing if it was only uh oriented toward trump and that

01:10:02.440 particular election but if it's like now we're starting to pull them on other candidates or

01:10:07.040 other issues or whatever and the trend is still holding yeah and that actually says something

01:10:11.880 about the people themselves that this 18 to 24 year old group might actually might actually be

01:10:18.600 a little bit based i'll give you a data point to instagram which is very young skewed platform

01:10:22.760 and I'm not I don't even have the app on my phone but I spend a little bit of time on it

01:10:26.540 and my goodness you should see and I'm not talking like a very small account put something up that's

01:10:32.440 edgy we're talking hundreds of thousands not of views of likes likes on some of the greatest

01:10:38.040 disrespect to the post-war consensus I've ever seen so it's a young platform full of young people

01:10:43.000 in the hundreds of thousands with their full name most of them just being like yep like that

01:10:48.120 well that's because they do a liked show they don't have anything to lose like they do so if

01:10:51.740 I have a friend like follow them I could just say oh my friend like this my friend like this it's

01:10:56.040 anonymous like if you like something you know yeah yeah but so you're saying with your full name in

01:11:00.420 the profile and your like is going to be seen by other people and I typically those that follow

01:11:05.440 there's a lot of different content that you're referencing but there was one in particular that

01:11:08.720 you and I both you know for for the purpose of cultural research we looked into but it was like

01:11:12.980 this short little like 15 second clip Michael and it was like a clip of like um uh of the planet

01:11:19.620 like earth you know zoomed out from like a satellite viewpoint and just missiles shooting

01:11:24.400 you know from one nation like it's just surrounded by mission nuclear holocaust and nuclear holocaust

01:11:29.200 and it's all like every country's just exploding and lighting up and uh and then the caption was

01:11:34.240 all because the austrian painter didn't finish the job and 470,000 likes the point is not whether

01:11:41.360 you know whether or not like oh and i agree with that but the point is 470,000 likes with people's

01:11:46.460 name show right right i've talked to friends from church who say that friends from college

01:11:50.720 they'll be scrolling through and they'll see oh he liked this wow like completely like unrelated

01:11:55.380 they're not talking or trying to red pill them right oh my goodness everywhere that's happening

01:12:00.280 it's crazy yeah well you know what i noticed about that age group that demographic 18 to 24 now

01:12:05.120 by 24 you presumably college but a lot of these guys are they're pre-college right and um by the

01:12:12.120 time you're the 24 to 29 or 30 like they went through college four years ago four years ago

01:12:18.020 that's a good point yeah so yeah i i bet you yeah i i didn't think of that so i bet college is

01:12:23.260 certainly probably a factor but then i also think you're right and just the sense of um at the time

01:12:29.520 for the 25 to 29 year olds at the time that they were teenagers and in these formative years

01:12:34.040 that's uh that was the time was like you you really were at kind of the left's high watermark

01:12:40.000 yeah where they were you know they were uh they weren't quite as crazy but they had tons of power

01:12:45.180 yep but the but the basic seed of like um expressing yourself you know and people want

01:12:52.160 to tie you down make you something that you're not and blah blah like that was kind of at its

01:12:55.960 zenith whereas you know the 18 to 24 year olds you think of like when the left's high watermark

01:13:01.740 was i i think of like 2013 to like 2020 you know so for them if my math is right that'd be like

01:13:09.120 you know anywhere from five to 13 years ago let's split the difference and call it you know

01:13:13.560 eight or nine years ago so if you're you know 18 to 24 today and let's put the difference there and

01:13:18.580 say you're 21 and and now you're going back nine years you were 12 yep and you probably you know

01:13:24.580 what i mean like you just that you probably weren't quite old enough for that to be ingrained

01:13:29.760 as your ethos your mantra in all of life but you witnessed firsthand covid so i know many young men

01:13:35.340 they're about 25 now. So they were finishing up college their last year of golf, their last year

01:13:40.360 of in-person studies, their graduation was robbed from them. Your graduation got canceled. And then

01:13:45.340 they opened the blind and they watched as black lives matter proceeded uninterrupted to burn the 1.00

01:13:49.620 city down. So they locked all these kids home, brought them back. They sat at home getting 1.00

01:13:53.960 radicalized, watched and got even more radicalized with the riots. I would think that's a big part

01:13:58.860 two of your 18 to 24. Like I want nothing to do with this. And that demographic because of

01:14:05.200 the condition of the economy and just because they're young like they are i would imagine that

01:14:11.420 they don't mind having their real names on instagram because they don't have anything to

01:14:14.420 lose right they don't have a career that they can get fired from like they and they just they're

01:14:19.860 done they're they're done with it yep good points um any final thoughts this is a great episode no

01:14:25.080 um the only thing um uh that i'll say and then i'll hand it over to you guys for any last thoughts

01:14:29.800 It's just I am very interested to see what happens with both parties.

01:14:35.220 The focus in this episode was the Democratic Party.

01:14:38.840 What who will win out, whether the establishment will be able to quell the young kind of rowdy folk or whether the ideological, the younger groups in each party are going to kind of win the day, hold sway.

01:14:52.580 if they do this is my last comment i don't know that like the 18 to 24 year olds and the 24 year

01:15:01.280 old to 29 year olds have a lot of loyalty to the party yep and what is interesting to me is the

01:15:09.340 idea that possibly if the ideologues win and i'm i'm not trying to use that term pejoratively just

01:15:15.240 as a shorthand if the more ideological young gen z people win in the republican party or in the

01:15:20.420 Democratic Party actually don't know that there's going to be a lot of interest in holding one

01:15:25.960 monolithic party together. So it'll be interesting to see what happens going forward. Yeah, here's

01:15:31.100 my prediction. I've been thinking about it for a while. Donald Trump is actually a great example

01:15:36.240 because, you know, he's a 1990s liberal Democrat from New York. Like he was a Democrat forever

01:15:40.780 and only, you know, joined the GOP later in life, you know, and like he's, I think he's like

01:15:49.140 130 140 years old right close to so like i mean he was a democrat for like 120 years and just

01:15:55.620 became you know a republican in the last decade and uh i'm pretty sure that that is in the

01:16:02.140 constitution i assume that's in the constitution there shall be no president of these united states

01:16:06.740 who's not over 100 years old something like that i'm pretty sure now that said i appreciate trump

01:16:11.580 and he's the most vigorous 130 year old i've ever seen certainly more than joe biden but joe biden

01:16:17.200 was like 190 years old so anyways all that being said my point is you can switch teams that's my

01:16:22.500 point of bringing up trump i think that's well established you can be democrat team for you know

01:16:26.900 i'll speak you know accurately now for 70 years or 60 years um and then switch over you know for

01:16:33.600 your last couple decades of life and so we know that you can switch teams whether it's trump or

01:16:38.220 whether it's elon musk or whether it's this person or that person there's you know so many examples

01:16:42.140 of that glenn youngkin wasn't he you know like a democrat for a long time and i think he switched

01:16:46.820 over interesting uh he was a governor in virginia yeah i'm not sure if he was former democrat though

01:16:51.460 but they're having cases of uh rfk tulsi gabbard exactly so plenty of examples so my prediction

01:16:57.300 with that being the case and i think it's pretty well established especially um as of late that you

01:17:03.520 can switch teams from you know democrat to republican i think if that's the case i think

01:17:08.680 we could eventually see you know uh the reverse effect and so uh what i mean is i think that um

01:17:15.060 i think the tide is turning i think that um that that leftists that democrats you know they um

01:17:22.860 they they didn't shoot the radicals you know we always talk about how that in a lot of ways that

01:17:27.920 was a strength for a while but ultimately the fact that they were not willing to uh turn on

01:17:33.880 their radicals the radicals have now made them untouchable right and um and i don't think that

01:17:39.660 like it's one thing to use your radicals but at this point the radicals are actually steering the

01:17:43.540 ship and and i don't i don't think they get it back so what what i predict is i really think

01:17:49.340 that like it's i think it's kind of like maga has won the day i mean it's just it's maga you know

01:17:55.320 and so i think what you'll probably get is um because what we established at the outset i think

01:18:00.360 you're right michael the democrat party you know the oldest party in the world is not going to go

01:18:04.660 away in in terms of just it's a label it's name our two-party system those kinds of i don't think

01:18:09.060 we're getting a third party i think that's that's a little naive and even um a waste of time to work

01:18:14.680 towards that you know like get your three percent you know with the libertarian you know training

01:18:19.460 party or whatever you know as long as they stay off my my lawn um so i think we're going to stick

01:18:24.400 to the two-party system it's going to be democrat it's going to be gop and that's not going to 0.95

01:18:28.880 change but i but i got a feeling that uh maggot just was kind of like this all-encompassing black

01:18:35.900 hole that just has sucked everything into and is continuing to do so and so i've got a feeling

01:18:41.220 betterment kind of yeah so i got a feeling that you're probably what what democrats will maybe

01:18:47.080 not this next cycle because they're a little slow on the uptake but eventually i think what they

01:18:51.680 will probably end up running on is kind of the the left wing of maggot that will be their so 0.95

01:18:58.640 So they'll be running on Sikh prayers, you know, and, and gay, but not too gay, you know, 0.98

01:19:05.800 like we love gays, you know, and just be kind of quiet, LGB, try anything, LGB, right. 0.96

01:19:12.040 You know, and yeah, exactly. 1.00

01:19:13.760 So it, which let's be honest, that's part of maggot.

01:19:17.360 Yeah.

01:19:17.660 You know, it's obviously not our, our favorite part, but that is, we can't, we can't pretend

01:19:22.820 like, like Trump has not allowed that and even supported that, you know, gays for Trump

01:19:26.680 and those kinds of things.

01:19:27.380 so i think it'll be it's basically i think in america trump has been such a historical

01:19:32.800 figure like i think we still have not fully processed how significant of a political figure

01:19:39.200 trump like a once in a hundred years definitely last 50 years but arguably a hundred years has

01:19:43.800 not gotten their political figure they're in worse straight and the man has not risen to the task

01:19:47.540 right yeah so i think that trump is so significant my point is um i think the two parties will

01:19:52.780 continue to be gop and democrat but they would simply be two different sides of trump it'll be

01:19:57.800 the gay side of trump and the less gay side of trump and and so what i'm hoping that is that 0.56

01:20:04.120 out of maga uh the worst of maga becomes the new uh assumed center that the democrats are forced 0.60

01:20:11.620 to have to own as their own and run on and then and then the best of maga that's even more right

01:20:18.580 more that actually did want the mass deportations and actually does believe in traditional marriage

01:20:24.180 and actually uh what they loved about trump the most was that he did the march for life first

01:20:28.340 president in a very long like or or when he had his slip of the tongue whether it was intentional

01:20:32.660 or an accident when he was like well yeah i think there's got to be some penalty for the woman who

01:20:36.820 commits an abortion they're like love that that's my favorite part of trump where's that let's bring

01:20:41.520 that back i think uh that's still also kind of in the maga orbit right and so i'm thinking that

01:20:47.180 that's kind of what you get you get uh gay trump good trump uh you know but but you're getting 0.94

01:20:51.760 trump you know you get uh gay trump democrat the new democrat and good trump you know the new gop 0.95

01:20:57.800 right i don't think that you're still getting war with both of them though that's yeah but you still

01:21:01.860 you're still going to get a war in the middle east um hopefully not but uh but but my point is

01:21:07.160 i think that's what you get and i'm not saying you get in 2028 right but i i think um i think

01:21:13.000 it's possible you get it um maybe as early as 2032 you know trump finishing this term and then

01:21:19.780 maybe eight maybe you have eight years advance or whatever and but then that kind of becomes the

01:21:23.900 it will kind of bookends it will it will depend on how to the right the next um republican or

01:21:33.060 canada is you know if it's jd vance and he really occupies that more right leaning then that will

01:21:39.920 leave a bit of a void on the left but if the next one is kind of middle like trump then the democrats

01:21:44.740 won't have a lot of room i think i you're right but i think ironically there's one other factor

01:21:48.800 that that's pretty significant as well it also depends on um how much the democrats uh course

01:21:55.360 that's true so like so if you get like advance versus gavin for instance right and gavin continues

01:22:01.400 playing out this strategy that you know he started by like going on charlie kirk and that and like

01:22:05.880 and if the democrats got beat as bad as we think they did and i think they did and if they just

01:22:13.060 recognize and i think they're right they are having some recognition but if they recognize

01:22:17.320 even half of how bad it is and course correct even just some and run like a gavin but it's but

01:22:23.860 it's gavin talking to america on the debate stage like he talked to charlie kirk then then that now

01:22:30.480 that's true um that that will influence because now vance is having to distinguish himself from

01:22:36.040 that and so this now becomes your new kind of bookend on the left yeah and so then vance is

01:22:41.020 like well gavin already already covered there's like trump is uh uh expansive right so think like

01:22:46.940 trump is really broad mag is broad well gavin because he just moved right he just covered gay

01:22:52.220 trump so then all that's left to me is good trump you know right and so i think that's possible any

01:22:57.700 Any final thoughts from you, Wes?

01:22:59.680 I think the takeaway is not, so it's very easy, and I think they are in disarray, but we are not rolling into San Francisco and getting a base city council.

01:23:07.160 So there's still billions of dollars.

01:23:09.240 There's still a lot of infrastructure, and they're going to keep blue parts of the nation blue.

01:23:13.680 But practically then, so what's the play then?

01:23:15.420 If we can't take these back, when do we do it?

01:23:17.920 The play is to make the red parts as red as possible.

01:23:21.240 This is where I think it's on the horizon in 2028, maybe 2030 in your governor races.

01:23:26.240 you could establish the first Christian nationalist state in the union.

01:23:31.100 So it's not, we elected a Christian nationalist president,

01:23:34.240 maybe not even a Christian nationalist senator,

01:23:36.360 but in the reddest state in the union,

01:23:37.940 we managed to run a guy that's a Christian,

01:23:40.400 that's a godly man and says,

01:23:42.060 I want America and I want Kansas or I want Oklahoma to be Christian. 0.98

01:23:46.700 And it's no to this. 1.00

01:23:47.780 And I'm going to call the legislator into session again and again 1.00

01:23:50.900 until we ban abortion, we ban pornography, we kick Palantir out. 1.00

01:23:54.720 That's the play. 1.00

01:23:55.520 So it's not L.A. is on the cusp.

01:23:57.740 We've got them on the ropes.

01:23:59.240 No, they're going to be a force for decades still.

01:24:01.780 Yes.

01:24:02.060 But on the rest of it, the infrastructure they had there that was maybe holding back a little bit.

01:24:07.660 Right.

01:24:07.840 So the true right wing could come out.

01:24:10.100 That's been even weakened even more.

01:24:11.620 And you run up the score.

01:24:13.460 And so that's the place.

01:24:14.160 Make the red parts of the country as red as possible while they're on their heels, while they have no message, while they're struggling to fund candidates.

01:24:21.660 That's what you do.

01:24:22.480 Yeah.

01:24:22.940 Well said.

01:24:23.440 Good strategy.

01:24:24.000 you. Thanks for tuning in and we will see you next time.

The NXR Podcast - June 18, 2025

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