The NXR Podcast - THE LIVESTREAM - Why The American Church Is Fat

00:00:00.000 America is getting unhealthier every year. This is because paganism dominates our thinking and 1.00

00:00:10.580 its fruit is death and impotence. This was clearly on display in the COVID pandemic as 1.00

00:00:16.100 the medical system rejected health and healing in favor of terror and tyrannical control. 0.83

00:00:22.280 Christians also bear much blame in this area as we also have become complacent, 0.95

00:00:27.380 fat, and unhealthy. We must reclaim God's purpose for health and healing, which is to restore and

00:00:34.460 preserve proper function to our minds and bodies so that we can fulfill the mandates

00:00:39.400 that God has given to us. Why is the American church so fat? Tune in now. 0.66

00:00:45.700 all right afternoon gentlemen great to see you again ga ga yep uh looking forward to this

00:01:01.280 conversation as you know today we're talking about health health care and the christian

00:01:06.980 mandate to actually be healthy i would say it's it goes that far it's a christian mandate

00:01:11.820 to be healthy. Talking about health, talking about the Christian mandate to be healthy,

00:01:16.100 talking about NVIDIA. Go ahead. Ernie's report happening right now. Right now. We'll let you

00:01:22.820 know. It's just play-by-play analysis. I got a little extra color commentary today from Joel.

00:01:30.460 So we're talking about health care and people being healthy, and I think it's undeniable,

00:01:37.640 If you've ever traveled around the world to Europe or to Asia, especially,

00:01:44.180 of course, all countries have people who are obese and overweight.

00:01:48.400 But it's sometimes, I've done quite a bit of traveling,

00:01:51.160 and sometimes it is shocking, not so much going there,

00:01:54.060 but if you've been there for a little while and you come back

00:01:56.060 and you start looking around the mall, people are really large in America. 0.91

00:02:00.000 People are really fat in America.

00:02:01.880 And it's not just an issue of fat and weight, 0.78

00:02:06.880 but it's a general perspective on health.

00:02:09.740 And I think that where we wanna start our discussion today

00:02:12.620 is this idea that as America gives itself over

00:02:16.440 to pagan ideas and pagan philosophies,

00:02:19.320 the fruit of paganism is death and impotence.

00:02:24.020 That's what paganism is going for.

00:02:26.360 We've talked in the past on this show

00:02:28.140 about the pagan gods, the Asherah pole, 0.98

00:02:30.920 which stripped all vitality and virility from a tree, 0.98

00:02:33.900 Moloch, which was a slaughter of the next generation in a lot of ways, offering your 0.88

00:02:39.040 babies to the idol. 0.89

00:02:41.000 And pagan ideals, because they stand in stark contrast to God, to the true creator God who

00:02:48.160 created us with life and also to foster and be fruitful and multiply as we spread out

00:02:54.440 and fill the earth, the pagan ideology is always going to stand in contradiction to

00:02:58.360 that.

00:02:58.560 And so as we embrace paganism, we are going to see the fallout is, it's not by accident 0.83

00:03:06.720 that the West and America is getting fatter, unhealthier, weaker, more impotent, lower 0.86

00:03:13.040 testosterone, women having fewer children. 0.99

00:03:16.720 The whole project that God designed us with for virility and life and work will be undermined 0.55

00:03:22.940 by pagan ideas. 0.92

00:03:24.300 And we see that in spades if we look around.

00:03:27.040 And so we're going to get into some topics of health care, what is health, how to be healthy.

00:03:31.300 But guys, any comments from you here at the top about paganism, unhealth, sickness, those things?

00:03:39.420 I just kind of had a question.

00:03:40.600 I was thinking like, you know, for thousands of years, pagans, they existed and they didn't suicide their own culture, right?

00:03:49.700 They existed and perpetuated.

00:03:51.660 And, and so I was thinking, you know, somebody was fruitful enough to, you know, at least replace the existing population.

00:03:58.100 Like I'm thinking of like, you know, Nordics or, you know, whatever, you know, pagan tribe you might think of and, you know, Aztecs or, you know, and certainly some of these pagan tribes were fans of human sacrifice and these kinds of things.

00:04:11.700 reason um but at the same time um i i bet that they even with their human sacrifices i bet that

00:04:19.100 they were um they had a higher reproductive rate than uh the west currently does we're under two

00:04:25.620 percent right we're like certain parts of europe are like 1.6 percent you know per per woman yeah

00:04:30.840 yeah and i think america's like 1.9 i think it's 1.9 depends right like and you have to be a little

00:04:36.120 bit above two i think it's 2.1 or 2.2 in order just to sustain population much less actually

00:04:41.460 you know fulfill the cultural mandate of being fruitful multiplying and i so my point is um i'm

00:04:45.940 just thinking of the west in what i would refer to as a neo-paganism right um being um the only

00:04:51.940 reason i bring it up is i i feel like our our western current neo-paganism is even more fruitless

00:04:57.180 than your classical you know historic paganism because those guys still saw even even as they

00:05:03.740 were worshiping false gods and hating yahweh um they still saw it as a great blessing to have 0.65

00:05:09.440 10 kids but we don't like our the kind of paganism that we're currently embracing uh doesn't doesn't

00:05:16.080 even under does it it doesn't even it's like not only has salvific grace you know left the building

00:05:22.700 but even common grace it seems as though it has been so eroded uh to where um not only do do we

00:05:29.320 live in a society that rejects christ as lord um but we uh we can't even have a proper relationship

00:05:35.220 to nature. I feel like your historic pagans hated the triune God, worshiped demons, but at least had

00:05:42.460 a more sustainable relationship with nature than we currently do. That's my only thought.

00:05:49.120 You have to consider that on top of that, the child mortality rates in those times were way

00:05:53.980 higher. And so it wasn't just that they were having a higher birth rate than we have now.

00:05:59.220 They were having enough to compensate for mother's deaths in childbirth and also the 0.53

00:06:04.340 babies who died in childbirth and uh and then actual human sacrifice well and i mean it's true

00:06:10.420 that in like in ancient pagan times in canaan and whatnot moloch they would they would sacrifice a

00:06:15.020 child but a lot of the pagan sacrifice for instance of the aztecs they were sacrificing other

00:06:19.860 right true right so they they were prospering um not killing their own sacrificing others but that

00:06:26.120 was not the case with moloch that was definitely their own i wonder if there's a demon worshiping

00:06:29.860 let the record state demon-worshipping aztecs had still at least better sense in america to not kill

00:06:36.140 their own children great i wonder if there's a dynamic where because prior to christ his life

00:06:42.000 his death and his resurrection uh we would say there's a real sense in which the the stewardship

00:06:46.080 of the ownership of the world was handed over to satan underneath god's ultimate sovereignty but 0.98

00:06:50.440 in that case when you have a multiplicity of pagan cultures that are doing pagan wicked things 0.78

00:06:54.540 satan isn't particularly concerned so whether this tribe has 100 000 individuals sacrificing

00:06:59.640 and doing this or one million it's all a net evil but then you have christ who bound the strong man

00:07:05.560 has cast him down we would say satan is bound now till the very end when he comes out for a short

00:07:09.380 while uh you have christ ruling and reigning and all of a sudden people now by and large the vast

00:07:14.600 majority of the world is actually christians and their enemies against you so you can think of

00:07:18.200 starving the host so to speak liberalism in its form of rebellion against god says well uh previously

00:07:24.180 a lot of these people the vast majority of the earth they were our foot soldiers uh but now here

00:07:28.720 on the other side of the cross the gospel is taking over hearts and capturing and transforming

00:07:32.520 them and so we want to actually starve out as many of these potential soldiers as possible 0.95

00:07:37.460 be it through abortion but also through just making them sterile fat unhappy whatever thing 0.82

00:07:42.640 gets us a lower population rate fewer amount of people that are potentially able to do the work

00:07:47.980 of the master of the universe christ yeah i think that's insightful wes and um

00:07:53.940 there's that pablon b clip that's floating around right now where the devil is telling

00:07:59.560 some of the minions to tone it down a little bit before the election i have you guys seen this

00:08:03.920 and so the people in the meeting are like um a gay rights activist and a climate change activist 0.86

00:08:09.940 and he's like you guys are doing such a good job destroying the world but we just need to tone it 0.96

00:08:14.020 down so we win this next election and it's kind of the at the end of the video what they what they

00:08:18.860 point out is, in some ways, our society has gotten to the point where we have adopted ideologies of

00:08:27.340 death that are even more damaging and destructive than some of the quote-unquote obviously evil

00:08:34.500 ideologies of the past, but we have repackaged them and rephrased them in positive ways. So we

00:08:42.760 don't look at what's going on, I say we, our society, and say, man, this is objectively evil.

00:08:48.440 We look at this and say the evil things that we're doing, which are even beyond what past generations and past civilizations did, these are net gains.

00:08:55.460 These are net goods.

00:08:56.260 These are net positives.

00:08:57.780 And I think, Joel, you're onto something like we, in a lot of ways, are doing things that there's nothing new under the sun.

00:09:05.580 But I've heard you say, Joel, there's new manifestations of it.

00:09:07.880 There's new inventions.

00:09:08.820 The wheel turns in a different way.

00:09:10.360 There's one, literally, as it's culminating and getting worse and worse and worse, the

00:09:13.540 highest peak is actually not the sin committed itself, but it's the universal societal collective

00:09:21.560 approval, yeah, and even approving of these deeds.

00:09:25.800 But right before that approval, as you're getting into, you know, the actual sins, and

00:09:29.000 then you get to the collective, you know, the corporate approval.

00:09:31.320 So the corporate approval, that's the peak, the pinnacle of wickedness in a society, in

00:09:35.980 a culture as a whole.

00:09:36.700 But right before that, as you're talking about the actual sin, there's, you know, debased minds and, you know, and it's just this progression of the sin itself.

00:09:45.540 But one of the highest sins in the sin itself, it says they become inventors of evil.

00:09:52.720 So obviously this, you know, all Scripture is, no Scripture contradicts.

00:09:57.800 There may be what we would call apparent contradictions, but God is not schizophrenic.

00:10:01.660 There's one, you know, common thread throughout all Scripture.

00:10:04.540 It's all consistent with each other.

00:10:05.980 So Ecclesiastes says there's nothing new under the sun, but somehow that must square, that's true, but that also must square with Romans 1 that speaks of a particular society being inventors of evil.

00:10:16.780 And so the root sin underneath and the general sense of evil, that is something that's been done before, but the particular outward manifestation of that evil could be an invention, something that is, at least in a sense, novel.

00:10:32.040 Yep. So I read this, in preparation for this, I read this book by Rush Juney, R.J. Rush Juney,

00:10:39.260 Faith and Wellness, Faith and Healing. Well, I forget now if it's Faith and Wellness.

00:10:43.540 And he said something insightful. He said, as the pagan perspective increases in our society,

00:10:51.000 we will make demands of all of society that are pagan, but in particular of health and healthcare.

00:10:57.540 and one of the reasons why we see rampant unhealthiness is i'm going to argue that

00:11:05.900 the health care system itself has kind of been co-opted and so he said when you use what is

00:11:11.920 called medicine and then you use that for the exact opposite purposes of what medicine was

00:11:19.740 designed for so we we say reproductive health and what we mean by that is abortion we mean murder

00:11:26.700 right we say transgender health what we mean by that is sterilization and so any any normal 0.99

00:11:35.120 rational person can look at the health care system and they see things like wait you call 0.94

00:11:41.920 health murder and you call sterilization health and so people look at the health care system

00:11:50.860 and the idea of health and it completely undermines the credibility that anyone would have

00:11:59.740 in a system that's supposed to promote life and fruitfulness. And then when you get doctors whose

00:12:05.440 specialty is baby murder or sterilization or vasectomies even, you know, there are doctors

00:12:12.520 who their entire practice is to cut off the virility of men, right? This quickly begins to

00:12:19.580 undermine a society's perspective confidence in a system and also their perspective of what is

00:12:25.660 healthy right and so we end up looking around at ourselves and when we see that we as a society

00:12:31.520 are lazy and fat and impotent and weak and everyone's on 20 different prescription drugs

00:12:36.800 every day this starts to be reframed as no actually that's a that's a decent baseline for health

00:12:42.820 but that's because underneath it all the health care system has been used has been co-opted for

00:12:50.140 death and for sterility and so downstream of that we have a lot of people are like i'm a fairly

00:12:55.460 healthy person but if you were to check their labs if they were to check their labs you know

00:13:00.580 they are they are yeah exactly um i should say too so jesus talks about the love of money being

00:13:06.400 the root of not all evil but all kinds of evil right and it's big money in health care but there's

00:13:10.840 also big money in pharmacy yep pharmaceuticals and in the food process so the the usda is deeply

00:13:17.180 involved like i think of corn high fructose corn syrup is from corn corn is so cheap to produce

00:13:22.140 because the government subsidizes it so you have a plant for one this plant also needs a lot of

00:13:26.900 pesticides on it so you have a pesticide ridden plant that makes really cheap corn syrup and

00:13:31.720 sugary fructose because it's subsidized by the government so the government got involved in all

00:13:36.220 those type of things i think of vegetable oils and all these things like that companies kept

00:13:39.920 looking at the bottom dollar the margin well we can cut it down if we do this so mcdonald's used

00:13:44.900 to fry in beef towel beef towel is much healthier than whatever vegetable or canola oil process

00:13:50.280 interesting up till the 90s and you look at pictures of people in the 60s in the 70s and

00:13:54.960 that's not to pretend every single person then was healthy and well-adjusted uh they were not

00:13:59.260 fat like we are they didn't get sunburned like we do so there was changes you mentioned health care

00:14:04.060 agricultural pharmaceutical all of these different ones and a lot of the the baseline problem was a

00:14:11.240 pursuit of money what can get us the most money maybe it's not even advantageous to cure some of

00:14:16.060 these conditions so much as keep people on this or keep people on dialysis i think of uh statins

00:14:20.740 for cardiovascular strain hypertension well it's a lot of money to prescribe someone this again and

00:14:26.700 again instead of telling them get outside eat better and lose a little bit of weight and so

00:14:31.780 you have the love of money that really gave rise to a lot of these problems we have now and the

00:14:36.920 glue doesn't go back in the bottle pandora's box once opened is very hard to right now get people

00:14:41.660 off of the cheap junky dopamine fueled diet that they currently have known their whole lives i mean

00:14:47.340 that's what i knew growing up mcdonald's and all that my whole life i've just known a very processed

00:14:52.180 not that i've personally eaten it but the majority diet is highly processed cheap high on dopamine

00:14:58.160 food like that. That is not very nutritious. So I will add on to that, Wes, because the other

00:15:03.460 observation that Rush Dooney made was that in a paganization of a medical system, not only will

00:15:09.840 we use medicine for opposite ends, whereas it's supposed to promote life, we're giving it over

00:15:18.960 to death. But medicine, people will make unreasonable or ungodly demands on medicine.

00:15:24.800 And to what you just said there, Wes, what happens now, and I know people in the medical

00:15:29.400 field, and they see people come in who have eaten like crap their entire life.

00:15:35.880 They never get off the couch. 0.94

00:15:37.480 They never do any exercise.

00:15:38.620 They never eat a vegetable.

00:15:39.760 And they go in, and they've got raging diabetes.

00:15:42.720 And so their expectation of a healthcare system is absolve me from the consequences of the

00:15:50.240 way that i've lived in folly and counter to the prince of the natural health principles that god

00:15:55.820 has set up absolve me of those give me a pill and it's not even give me a pill so that i can get

00:16:01.600 better it's give me a pill so that i can continue right to go on in this uh sort of lifestyle and

00:16:07.600 to attach it to the money that you said wes sometimes that's better for that bottom line

00:16:12.840 of a hospital or an insurance company or pharmaceutical company because they'll say

00:16:16.480 great we will just keep giving you the pill well it's what you call a returning customer that's

00:16:20.000 right? You know, it's like, it's subscription, a subscription model. It's like, you know,

00:16:25.160 this person's going to come back again and again and again. And if anything, you know,

00:16:29.660 they'll have to double the dose, triple the dose. Yeah. I think we should, before we go to a

00:16:35.040 commercial break, you want to play that clip? Well, so I'm going to read a quote and then we're

00:16:38.760 going to play the clip. So to this end, this is from Dr. Bradley Campbell, who is a chiropractor

00:16:47.100 and a natural health doctor.

00:16:49.740 And he has had a lot of conversations

00:16:51.580 with behind the scenes people who won't go public.

00:16:58.140 But this is a summary of what he said.

00:17:00.400 And I should have had Nate put it on the screen,

00:17:02.920 but you'll just have to listen carefully.

00:17:04.460 He said this, he said,

00:17:05.260 many medical doctors whom I teach

00:17:07.600 are not allowed to speak their mind

00:17:09.640 because they have certain rules.

00:17:11.920 They is the hospitals.

00:17:13.580 Most hospital systems now do not allow you as a doctor

00:17:16.260 to have freedom of speech.

00:17:17.600 If you say anything bad about the hospital, you get fired.

00:17:20.420 If you promote something other than the hospital,

00:17:22.640 like diet and exercise and sunlight, you may get fired.

00:17:25.780 If you share research with people, you may get fired.

00:17:28.600 If you refer to the best person for a surgery

00:17:33.480 not in the hospital, you may get fired.

00:17:36.300 If you try to get people off their meds

00:17:38.600 or to not have the surgery, you may get fired.

00:17:40.980 If you try to get people cheaper surgery

00:17:43.600 that is better and safer, you may get fired.

00:17:46.260 If you are a doctor, you may hate me for exposing some of these truths, but maybe be a force

00:17:51.320 for good.

00:17:52.200 Stop making excuses for working for evil.

00:17:56.240 This goes right along with a clip that we want to roll from.

00:18:00.920 Wes, do you remember when it was?

00:18:02.500 This would have been a couple of years ago.

00:18:04.100 And just to introduce the individuals, Joe Rogan needs no introduction, but he has a

00:18:08.080 public health practitioner named Dr. Peter Hotez on his show.

00:18:11.540 Dr. Peter Hotez, he's in my industry.

00:18:13.360 so he's been keynote speaker at conferences that our clients have gone to he's really big name he's

00:18:17.940 done a lot of work in vaccines this out of the other but notice that there's a there's a message

00:18:21.820 and sometimes it doesn't include all of these healthy steps like we've talked about like being

00:18:25.120 active uh eating right sometimes it will sometimes it won't but this is a man involved in public

00:18:29.520 health that has dedicated his whole life to how can we improve not just a single individual but

00:18:33.920 the health of our society in general and joe rogan pushes him a little bit on okay so all these things

00:18:38.740 that you're preaching and teaching, do you do them?

00:18:41.520 And so we can roll the clip.

00:18:43.000 Do you take care of your immune system in other ways?

00:18:46.020 Do you take probiotics?

00:18:47.820 Are you cautious about your diet?

00:18:50.920 I'm not as cautious about my diet as I should be.

00:18:54.400 I'm a junk foodaholic, actually.

00:18:56.560 Well, that seems like a terrible thing for your health.

00:18:58.040 It is a terrible thing for my health

00:18:59.660 and something my wife is working on.

00:19:01.700 But that seems ridiculous for someone who works with health.

00:19:04.480 Yeah, yeah.

00:19:05.460 What's going on with you, man?

00:19:06.400 Sometimes, man, I just don't get it right.

00:19:09.040 How often?

00:19:10.180 What?

00:19:10.820 How often?

00:19:11.360 How often do I steal a bag of chips or something like that?

00:19:13.980 How often do you eat garbage?

00:19:16.100 I don't know. 0.96

00:19:17.140 No, hopefully not every day.

00:19:18.740 Hopefully not every day.

00:19:19.740 Maybe a couple of times a week.

00:19:21.500 Oh.

00:19:22.120 That's what with Rachel, my daughter with autism, that's like our thing is to go to the – it's called the burger joint or to Shake Shack to get a cheeseburger.

00:19:33.660 We'll sneak some fries.

00:19:37.040 Live in large, we call it. 0.76

00:19:38.740 Like that mouth pleasure so much, you're willing to sacrifice a little bit of health.

00:19:42.980 I am, yeah.

00:19:43.780 You know, I have to concede that's the case.

00:19:48.060 Well, there's – I mean, I don't have to tell you, but there's a large body of data that connects poor diet to a host of diseases.

00:19:56.760 That seems like a crazy decision for a guy in your line of work.

00:20:00.440 There you go.

00:20:01.020 Sometimes the – it's not all brain.

00:20:06.140 It's something else.

00:20:08.100 But, I mean, if you ate healthy food, I mean, the thing is your body starts craving healthy food.

00:20:14.220 You start feeling positive results.

00:20:14.800 Yeah, no question.

00:20:15.920 No question about it.

00:20:17.300 Do you take vitamins?

00:20:18.520 I don't take vitamins.

00:20:19.580 Really?

00:20:20.000 Yeah.

00:20:20.540 Wow.

00:20:21.100 I don't think they do.

00:20:21.600 I don't think they're needed.

00:20:22.460 What?

00:20:22.540 Because most in the American—

00:20:24.540 Hold up.

00:20:25.080 Hold up.

00:20:25.560 Hold up.

00:20:26.020 You don't think they're needed while you're eating junk food?

00:20:28.540 Well, hopefully I'm not only eating junk food.

00:20:30.780 You know, there's a large body of clinical research on the efficacy of vitamins, especially vitamins D, vitamins B.

00:20:38.760 I have taken vitamin D for periods, the recommendation of my internist.

00:20:43.700 What about essential fatty acids, which are great for your brain, fish oil, all these different things that are fantastic for inflammation?

00:20:50.460 I'm not going to argue with you.

00:20:52.420 What is going on with you, doctor?

00:20:54.220 You got it over me.

00:20:57.260 Listen, but you would have a much better argument, don't you think? 1.00

00:21:00.340 You're making my wife stay here. 1.00

00:21:02.240 If you're taking care of yourself 100% instead of just concentrating.

00:21:05.820 But you still need your vaccines.

00:21:07.380 I'm sure you do.

00:21:10.540 But you still need your vaccines.

00:21:11.820 You still need your vaccines.

00:21:12.720 Don't worry.

00:21:13.720 Supplements, healthy eating.

00:21:15.900 Eh, you could live without it, but get that vaccine.

00:21:19.680 Fat vaccinated people are telling you all these things, not even doing it themselves.

00:21:23.680 This makes me think, I don't know if we need to do this. 0.98

00:21:26.280 We didn't talk about it, so I'm going to do it just in case.

00:21:28.100 But I think probably for legal reasons, we probably should say nothing in this episode is to be considered as individual medical advice for you.

00:21:36.360 But I think largely it's just a commentary on common sense and biblical principles for health.

00:21:43.360 Eat healthy.

00:21:44.400 That's not medical advice.

00:21:45.740 That's medical advice.

00:21:50.880 Shouldn't be medical advice.

00:21:52.580 So really startling there, right?

00:21:54.400 Like this man who, like you said, Wes, is in the business and industry of trying to keep an entire population healthy.

00:22:03.640 The name.

00:22:04.640 Yeah.

00:22:04.780 The guy.

00:22:05.380 The guy.

00:22:05.980 One of his lectures was the science versus the anti-science at an allergy conference here like last year.

00:22:12.060 Yeah.

00:22:12.320 The science versus the anti-science.

00:22:14.940 Yeah.

00:22:15.060 Sounds so formal, doesn't it?

00:22:16.200 Yep.

00:22:16.460 So settled.

00:22:17.320 Yep.

00:22:17.560 And this is something that we're going to get into in the next section.

00:22:20.000 And, but just the, the, not only have we lost an idea of health, but we've also lost the

00:22:26.740 idea of what a doctor is supposed to be, the qualifications for a doctor, you know, the

00:22:31.660 role that a doctor is supposed to play.

00:22:33.920 And maybe this man is not a practicing doctor.

00:22:36.260 It sounds like he's more of a policymaker and researcher and things like that.

00:22:40.340 But just the idea that people see that hypocrisy.

00:22:43.640 And I know from having kids, when kids see a hypocrisy in mom and dad, it doesn't matter

00:22:49.080 what you tell them at that point they're not going to do it if they see you doing the exact opposite

00:22:54.320 and when a society sees doctors who say yeah you should do all this you should be disciplined

00:22:59.340 you should take the supplements and the vitamins you should get the exercise but i am not going to

00:23:05.460 do it the the people who are receiving that advice very little chance that they're going to do that

00:23:11.800 either yeah yeah well a good place for uh our first commercial break then let's go to a commercial

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00:25:10.840 the lord jesus christ because he is the king of kings all right here we go we are back i wanted

00:25:18.100 to take a moment and tell you guys about our conference uh we have waited a little bit usually

00:25:24.200 we announce the next conference at the current conference but we waited a little bit because

00:25:28.780 We wanted to get everything nice and neat, get it all wrapped up in a bow, make sure

00:25:33.280 that we confirmed every single speaker, the dates, the location, all these different things.

00:25:37.920 And here it is.

00:25:38.680 We're calling the conference.

00:25:40.300 Very simple.

00:25:41.240 Christ is King, subtitle, How to Defeat Trash World.

00:25:45.240 You've heard Aaron Wren, his rendition of a negative world or living in a world that

00:25:50.880 is hostile towards Christians, actually enmity.

00:25:54.100 So moving from positive world to neutral world to negative world.

00:25:57.540 And this is new, not new in the sense of all of human history, but it is new for America.

00:26:04.440 For the entire history of America since our founding, the culture, the hegemony has been largely positive towards Christianity.

00:26:13.780 Only recently, I would argue, in just the last few decades, became neutral to where you didn't really stand to gain anything by being Christian, but you still didn't really stand to lose. 0.66

00:26:23.380 And I think that at this point, there is truly a cultural, societal cost to following Christ in the West, and even here, particularly in America. 0.81

00:26:35.760 So Christ is King, that's the title, How to Defeat Trash World.

00:26:39.740 And we have an all-star cast here.

00:26:43.080 We've got an epic lineup.

00:26:44.140 Epic lineup.

00:26:45.580 I'm going to say the names, and if you're driving, you might want to pull over on the shoulder or something like that.

00:26:50.320 I just, I don't want to be responsible for, you know, faces melting, people getting in

00:26:53.920 wrecks, you know, like, yeah, but we've got 15 guys at this conference.

00:26:58.320 We're going to have eight main sessions.

00:27:00.000 So we've done Friday, Saturday, and then a hold over to the Lord's day, Sunday morning

00:27:03.220 worship.

00:27:03.900 But we are extending it.

00:27:05.360 So you're getting a whole extra day.

00:27:07.080 We're kicking off Thursday afternoon, all day Friday, just about all day on Saturday.

00:27:12.360 And then also hold over anybody who wants to stay for the Lord's day.

00:27:15.320 So you get a whole extra day of the conference.

00:27:17.500 We're going to have eight main sessions.

00:27:19.260 in the past we've done seven and we've done one or two panels in the past now we're going to be

00:27:23.840 doing three or four panels so we're going to have eight main sessions three or four panels

00:27:27.760 and without further ado here's the lineup we've got steve dace we've got jeff durbin

00:27:33.040 orrin mcintyre steven wolf brian sauvet andrew isker john harris eric khan ady robles dan

00:27:45.100 Dan Burkholder, Ben Garrett, Dusty Devers, David Reese, and Zach Garris. I'm going to say it one

00:27:53.100 more time. That's a lot of names. And I know right now, again, if you're driving, listening to the

00:27:57.740 podcast, your hands are probably shaking. So go ahead and pull over because I am going to say it

00:28:02.580 a second time and you might black out, but here it is. Steve Dace, Jeff Durbin, Orn McIntyre,

00:28:07.680 Stephen Wolf, Brian Sauve, Andrew Isker, John Harris, Eric Kahn, A.D. Robles, Dan Burkholder,

00:28:14.460 Dusty Deavers, Ben Garrett, Zach Garris, David Reese, and yours truly. We've got 15 guys,

00:28:21.200 three or four panels that are going to be 90 minutes long, hour and a half, talking

00:28:25.340 theonomy versus natural law, talking about Christian nationalism, talking about beating

00:28:29.820 trash world, talking about all the things that you're not supposed to talk about, talking about

00:28:34.240 how me-constitutioning harder might not be the only strategy that we have, talking about how 0.50

00:28:39.720 the Constitution is a beautiful American document that we love, but that we have not been functioning

00:28:45.060 as a constitutional republic for decades now, certainly not in the previous last few years.

00:28:51.320 And so where do we go from here? We want to talk about what time it is, because I think there's a

00:28:56.640 lot of guys who are basically good guys. They love the Lord, they love the scripture, and they love

00:29:01.180 the country, but they don't know what time it is. They do not realize that the farm has been sold

00:29:08.120 by prior generations in order to just bump up a slight measure of the GDP and get one extra

00:29:15.120 cruise in retirement. They sold their children and children's future. And this is an uphill

00:29:23.120 battle. We are living in negative world. We are living in trash world, clown world,

00:29:28.260 whatever you want to call it. And so we want to talk in a very practical sense, 0.97

00:29:31.780 how do we actually live? How then should we live in light of Christ being king,

00:29:36.400 but also in light of the West, currently, right now, falling. The West is committing apostasy

00:29:43.480 towards Christ. So there's going to be a lot of doctrinal teaching, but also a lot of practical

00:29:48.060 teaching, and there's going to be a lot of political theology. And we're going to speak

00:29:51.800 in categories. We're going to say, this is theology for the church. This is political theology and

00:29:57.880 political strategy. We're going to be talking about the Protestant magisterial position. We're

00:30:03.460 going to be talking about the theonomic position. We're going to be talking about even having

00:30:08.020 probably some heated conversations in some of the panels between guys like Jeff Durbin and

00:30:13.060 guys like Stephen Wolf, who are brothers in Christ, but would have some sharp disagreements.

00:30:18.580 And Isker and me and Brian will be sitting on the side, just quietly, like,

00:30:23.480 but it's going to be, I think, very helpful, staunchly biblical, but also staunchly practical.

00:30:31.520 And I think there's a lot of guys right now who, God bless them, they're brothers, we love them, but the 17th conference in a row on the TULIP and the doctrines of grace, reformed soteriology, I don't think is our greatest need right now.

00:30:47.540 And don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that we should not teach the doctrines of grace.

00:30:52.160 We should.

00:30:53.420 But I don't know if that's the biggest need.

00:30:56.160 hosting another debate about baptism. I don't know if that's the most urgent,

00:31:02.160 desperate need of the hour. While we're hosting debates about baptism and teaching on the

00:31:10.840 sovereignty of God, or let's do another conference, like John MacArthur did Strange Fire back in the

00:31:18.180 day. That was a hit. Let's see if we could just reproduce that and do it again. Strange Fire 2.0.

00:31:22.360 I don't know if that's the biggest need of the hour right now, you know, or, you know, saying, you know, well, there's a lot of legalism right now when we know that the headline of the story is that the church is antinomia or there's a lot of toxic masculinity right now when we know, yeah, there are men who are abusive, but feminism is the reigning dragon of the day.

00:31:46.420 This is a conference where if you feel like you're taking crazy pills when you're in the

00:31:51.920 reformed evangelical world and you're like, I'm going to be worshiping Christ for eternity

00:31:56.960 with these guys.

00:31:57.600 I'm not doubting their salvation.

00:31:58.760 These are good guys, and they're helpful in a general sense of teaching through books

00:32:02.720 of the Bible, expositional preaching, the doctrines of grace, but these guys do not

00:32:07.860 have a clue what world we're living in, in any practical theology.

00:32:12.540 These guys are just utterly clueless.

00:32:14.660 If you've been feeling like that and you feel like, and I'm not saying that practical theology is the only theology we need, but we just recognize that this conference is not saying, so this is the only conference that you should be a part of.

00:32:24.720 That's not our pitch.

00:32:26.200 Our pitch is saying we're looking at the evangelical world and the nation as a whole, and particularly as a Reformed evangelical, I'm looking at my Reformed camp that I love, that I'm a part of, and I'm saying that this is an area where we are particularly weak.

00:32:40.520 so we're not saying this is um the the you know the the sum total of what uh reformed evangelicals

00:32:47.680 should be thinking about no we're saying but this is important they should be thinking about it and

00:32:51.300 not a lot of guys are talking about this so we're trying to come in and not say this is the whole

00:32:55.240 enchilada no we're coming in and saying uh this is a significant piece that is not the whole

00:32:59.620 but it is a significant piece and it is radically missing so if you want uh just a nice you know in

00:33:06.700 a world that's lost its mind, and even the church and the Reformed church that has lost

00:33:11.600 its mind, at least in this area, if you want just a little sanity pick-me-up, just a little 0.90

00:33:17.460 three-day oasis of not having to take the crazy pills and being able to just be with

00:33:23.660 fellow brothers in Christ who are just sane people and are able to say, yeah, we're in

00:33:29.300 trash world, yeah, the Constitution, it's beautiful, but it's not restraining drag

00:33:34.020 story hour it's not restraining this it's not well we're gonna have to do something what can

00:33:38.320 we do that's biblical that honors christ how then should we live how do i live locally right how to

00:33:43.880 nationally how do i live as a family man how do i live as a church man what does this mean for

00:33:48.800 markets what does it mean for economics um nvidia has its earnings call right now these kinds of

00:33:55.540 things i'm gonna work it into a panel it'll get in there but that that's the kind of conversation

00:34:00.020 that's the weekend that we're going to be having so all that being said um typically we do friday

00:34:03.900 Saturday. This is Thursday, Friday, Saturday. Hold over to the Lord's Day. You get a whole

00:34:08.220 extra day. And we felt convicted that we want to make the price. You've got twice the amount

00:34:15.600 of speakers, 15 guys. You've got a whole extra day, not quite twice, but probably about 50%

00:34:21.520 more sessions. So 50% more time, twice the amount of speakers, and it's a lower price than we did

00:34:29.900 this year in March. So we're launching right now today. You can register by going to

00:34:36.160 rightresponseconference.com. I think that's it. Is that right, Nathan?

00:34:42.680 Yep. Rightresponseconference.com. Rightresponseconference.com. We've got the early

00:34:48.080 bird pricing. It's only going to go for a few months because the conference is in April. It's

00:34:53.440 the 3rd, 4th, and 5th, and then the Lord's Day would be the 6th. Feel free to stay in town and

00:34:57.500 join us for worship. We've rented out the venue for Sunday as well for church, so everybody's

00:35:01.800 welcome to join us. But that Thursday, Friday, Saturday is 3rd, 4th, and 5th of April. We've got

00:35:07.740 a venue that is large. We could have well over 1,000 people, but I've got a feeling that it's

00:35:14.860 going to fill up quickly, and we're only going to do a few months because we're kind of getting

00:35:19.060 a late start of publicly advertising this. So we're only doing a few months of the early bird

00:35:24.220 pricing i think it's only three months and the early bird pricing for an adult is 130 bucks

00:35:28.560 nope 140 bucks uh the 130 dollars is an offer that we actually made exclusively for all the

00:35:35.520 guys who came to our conference this year we wanted to honor them uh because yes it's an

00:35:39.760 annual event uh and but even with an event that's only one time a year it's funny but um yeah you

00:35:45.900 can i'm not saying it's like a local church it's not comparable not not even close but you can

00:35:50.740 builds some sense of a culture. I mean, think about, you know, back in the day, going to youth

00:35:55.820 camp where it's not just your church, you know, but it's multiple churches. They all kind of

00:35:59.880 partner together in the summer with this one annual event and you make some friends and you

00:36:04.420 look forward every year to meeting them again. And even though it's just a one-time-a-year event,

00:36:09.940 you're with each other all day long for multiple days in a row and there is connections and

00:36:15.440 networking and relationship and culture. There's a family that comes every year and we have them

00:36:19.560 for lunch on Sunday every single time. There you go. Exactly. So it's like this extended family

00:36:25.260 reunion kind of thing that happens. And so with that, we want new people to come and we've got

00:36:30.320 a venue that can accommodate that. We can have all the people that came this year plus a good

00:36:35.960 amount more. But we wanted to particularly honor those who came this year in March by giving them

00:36:42.040 that $130 rate. And that's the lowest rate we'll ever do. And that's only for them if you came to

00:36:48.020 the conference this year. But for everybody else, if you haven't been to the conference before,

00:36:52.180 but you want to come this year, still, it's a great deal. Early bird pricing for the next couple

00:36:56.500 months at $140 for an adult. And then our regular pricing, we're going to go up a little bit to

00:37:02.180 about $170. And then even our late registration, if you're registering a couple months before for

00:37:08.040 the chronic procrastinator out there, I don't want to go. And then 60 days before, you're like,

00:37:13.420 I do want to go.

00:37:14.900 All right. 0.99

00:37:15.160 Well, even for you, you deserve to be gouged. 0.78

00:37:18.080 But in the spirit of Christian mercy, we will not gouge you.

00:37:21.720 Our top price—

00:37:22.480 Southwest Airlines will gouge you.

00:37:23.260 Yeah, they'll gouge you.

00:37:23.780 Yeah, yeah.

00:37:24.260 But we're going to go 140 on the early bird.

00:37:26.240 That's right now.

00:37:27.340 And then 170 for the regular.

00:37:28.880 And then 200.

00:37:29.600 We're capping out there.

00:37:30.560 We're not going to go any higher than that.

00:37:32.000 So we want you to come to this.

00:37:33.520 Again, Christ is King.

00:37:35.180 How to Defeat Trash World.

00:37:37.080 Steve Dace, Jeff Durbin, Oren McIntyre, Stephen Wolfe, Joel Webin, Brian Sauve, Andrew Isker,

00:37:43.420 John Harris, A.D. Robles, Eric Kahn, Dan Burkholder, Ben Garrett, Dusty Devers, David Reese, and Zach

00:37:51.400 Garris, eight main sessions, three or four panels over the course of three days, April 3rd, 4th,

00:37:56.700 and 5th, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, holdover for the Lord's Day on Sunday, April 6th. The lowest

00:38:02.580 price that we're offering right now for those returning who have already come to our conference

00:38:06.740 in the past, $130. And for anybody who's brand new, it's not much more, $140 for the early

00:38:12.900 registration right response conference.com again one last time right response conference.com all

00:38:20.220 right so you're so off script you read the same ordered list of 15 people and you read it different

00:38:24.920 all three times incredible i couldn't have done that if i tried i got all 15 at each time but

00:38:30.280 yeah it was the order kept switching on me is uh is a negative world the academic one and then

00:38:35.620 trash world is the common man yeah i think that's it i think if you're like if you're talking to the

00:38:40.580 heritage foundation you say negative world and uh and if you're smoking a cigar with me and you

00:38:46.160 know brian survey and andrew isker you say trash i think that's how it works well uh we are talking

00:38:52.220 about one of the elements of living in trash world and that is the health care system and

00:38:56.560 trash food the trash uh synthetic drugs uh all of that uh one of the things that we hinted at

00:39:04.900 right before the break was the idea that the perception of what a doctor and a medical

00:39:10.100 practitioner is has changed dramatically. And I was really fascinated with some of the research

00:39:15.780 that I did looking at the Christian view of what health is and is for, and then what a doctor is

00:39:21.820 for. And the idea of health in the Christian tradition goes all the way back to the Garden

00:39:28.080 of Eden and the mandate to be fruitful and to take dominion or to steward the earth. And so

00:39:35.320 health is the optimal state of mind and body to be fruitful yeah to raise your offspring

00:39:43.960 and to exercise dominion over the earth that's really simple but really helpful yeah and so

00:39:50.780 the whole reason why christian wants to pursue health is for those reasons because god has given

00:39:56.180 us tasks and to optimally achieve those tasks to be in the optimal condition for obedience yes

00:40:04.100 100 god gave us commands we want to obey those commands to the best of our ability so we want

00:40:09.060 to steward uh one of the greatest resources he's given us our literal physical lives

00:40:15.300 energy and strength so that we can be the most obedient possible yes so the reason why this is

00:40:22.300 tricky i feel like that makes sense yep the reason this is tricky is because of the fall and the

00:40:26.060 curse right and uh so with that sickness or unhealth was introduced into the picture and

00:40:32.820 when you look through the Bible, and we won't do a whole excursus of it, but sickness and lack of

00:40:40.740 health can be brought on by a couple of things. One is God's providence. We see that with Job

00:40:45.460 all throughout the book of Job. He brought that on Job as a providence, an act of testing, trial,

00:40:54.020 and also we see also that God brings sickness to people as a judgment. David said, when I kept

00:41:00.060 silent about my sin my bones wasted away yes correct we also see that that is true and there

00:41:05.500 can be physical consequences not always but but there absolutely 100 and especially when we talk

00:41:10.380 about mental health particularly all sin can have physical consequences but um but particularly

00:41:15.060 unconfessed yes yes and when we talk about anxiety i say it in square scare quotes because i don't

00:41:21.660 like labeling it a disease you are anxious right you worry um or we talk about stress or people who

00:41:29.420 on antidepressants not all of it i'm not gonna i'm not gonna say every single one there are

00:41:33.980 chemical imbalances we are a fusion of body and spirit um and the curse is far reaching even down

00:41:41.120 to our chemical composition but a lot of people are on on antidepressants have an unconfessed

00:41:48.180 issue or have a guilt issue of some sort so so my point is a lack of health can be brought on

00:41:55.860 through sin and folly or by God's providential hand, right? And so the question then becomes,

00:42:03.740 when you are unhealthy, what do we do about this? And that's where the Christian view of the doctor

00:42:09.780 came to be. And in Latin, as Christianity was spreading through the West, the word in Latin

00:42:17.760 for health is salve which is very related to the word in english for salvation and the christian

00:42:26.400 church viewed i'm singing saliva saliva um viewed the which jesus used to heal a blind man yes there

00:42:36.080 we go we got there got it we got there um the christian the gospel the christian tradition is

00:42:42.540 that the gospel is a total healing. It begins with the redemption of the soul. It continues

00:42:47.960 with the sanctification of the body and the soul. And then it ends when we are resurrected in a new

00:42:53.020 body that is a meat, a proper vessel for a redeemed spirit. And so the gospel really, in its

00:43:00.560 broad sense, is the salvation of the total person, the physical and the spiritual. But even in the

00:43:07.340 short term, there is a sense where the work of the gospel, and we're thinking post-millennially,

00:43:14.500 the work of the gospel is going to spread through all the world, even through health,

00:43:19.580 and we will get healthier, we will live longer, et cetera. Part of the work that the gospel is to

00:43:24.060 do is to drive us to understand how to make people healthier. And this is why Christians

00:43:30.620 all through the ages have started hospitals. Missionaries have not just preached the gospel,

00:43:36.500 they've started hospitals um and you couple that with the other belief that christians have that

00:43:43.240 we discover who god is in part by just by studying his created world and health care even the the

00:43:52.820 study of how our bodies work and how to make people healthy was at its root a study of god

00:43:59.260 as he had made the world and so these two convictions led the church to heavily prioritize

00:44:06.560 and value the office or the the vocation of the man who gives himself to healing those who are

00:44:15.040 the physician the physician that's helpful uh wes so there's a lot of lies in the medical system

00:44:22.580 today um but at least if there's one thing that we can count on i would love to for you to speak

00:44:29.560 to this if there's one thing that you know that we know is not a lie that we can trust and take

00:44:33.140 to the bank it's the food pyramid can you talk about that there's one thing that you can take

00:44:37.760 all the way uh let me end with the food pyramid something that i was going to say okay it's

00:44:43.100 complicated i know i've said it to you i think i've said it to you michael but it's really

00:44:46.100 important uh there's a field called epigenetics epi genetics epigenetics epigenetics you were

00:44:52.140 you're talking to me about this i think it's really fascinating it is just this book that

00:44:55.200 you've got on the table it does deal with some of it yeah i'll pull it out just in case you don't

00:44:58.820 get to it at the end so this is a book deep nutrition speaking of the food pyramid this

00:45:02.100 would be a great longer way a little bit to the camera there to read it uh zoom in there we go

00:45:07.020 it's by kate shanahan so really good book your dna so you have these 23 pairs of dna you get

00:45:14.140 it from your father you get it from your mother um they're not all in use at the same time so it

00:45:17.960 is not as though you have a gene and that gene is there you have the gene for brown eyes and it's

00:45:22.980 just that's it it's there our genes can be turned on and off so if the the technical languages would

00:45:29.520 be wrapped in a histone and it can't be expressed or it can be unwrapped and the way these genes

00:45:34.400 are turned on and off is by environmental factors so you're given the base starting point but that

00:45:39.100 base starting point can be improved on or it can be downgraded it can be improved on if you live

00:45:45.240 a healthy life that promotes the healthy expression of the proteins the enzymes uh the every the cells

00:45:51.040 everything that you need to live healthily so if you promote it through a good diet through

00:45:54.660 exercise it can work to promote the genes that are good and then silence genes that may lead to

00:45:59.620 for example cancer so you can do good for your genetic base that you were given or you can do

00:46:05.360 bad sin is an example drunkenness abuse of drugs fornication those things will literally in your

00:46:11.440 body promote and proliferate the expression of genes and silence good genes that you don't want

00:46:17.600 to have so someone with a good genetic basis can go really far i think a winston churchill he did

00:46:22.300 amphetamines during the war 10 cigars a day five to 10 scotches a day and live till 90 years old

00:46:28.600 wow you have millennials who drink two beers and they're like oh my goodness i'm so hung over and

00:46:31.900 they're 30 years old that's a genetic basis now however if you had generations upon generations

00:46:36.420 that drank smoked abused drugs just lived a lifestyle that didn't take care of their health

00:46:41.120 that would compound so then three generations the sins of the father the sins of the father

00:46:45.740 but in the most organic yes united way it's not just this arbitrary abstract idea that we reap

00:46:52.320 what you sow what you do with your body will then be born out in your children they will get what

00:46:57.720 it is that you've improved on and done better for yourself or done worse for then they'll see you

00:47:02.640 model either healthy eating healthy living being active a self-controlled life they'll see that

00:47:08.000 and be further inclined to exercise self-control and moderation and good eating and then further

00:47:13.440 improve give that to their grandkids hopefully improve to them setting up a strong genetic

00:47:17.280 legacy of health or it can go the opposite direction i think of uh pastor connor preached

00:47:21.820 a couple weeks ago about like unconfessed sin of pornography like a man could think like i'm

00:47:26.420 hiding it and no one is realizing it no it's going to be literally borne out in that you're going to

00:47:31.720 have restricted impulse control your prefrontal cortex the ability to inhibit passions and ideas

00:47:37.740 all these different things you want to do inhibiting that passion right if if you're if

00:47:41.640 you're giving into pornography uh you're probably also losing your temper with your wife right

00:47:45.600 and that won't just be an abstract spiritual thing this is body and soul a spiritual sin problem

00:47:52.020 with the body being carried out you're going to set a habit like you said temper with your wife

00:47:56.400 is a visible one you're going to pass the one on down to your children the hidden sin will come out

00:48:00.800 and the point is you get away with nothing all these things that it seems like well i spent my

00:48:05.920 20s partying but but now i'm ready to settle down you're gonna bear some level consequences for that

00:48:11.540 now jesus does save us from the ultimate consequences of sin which is permanent and

00:48:15.540 eternal death but he does not save us if you shot up heroin and your arms are covered in scars and

00:48:21.280 you lived a very sinful life you will not necessarily be saved from the consequences 0.91

00:48:25.340 if you got hiv by living a terrible promiscuous lifestyle it's very likely you will die with hiv

00:48:30.420 even being saved the gospel does not um does not guarantee that we'd be spared of temporal 0.94

00:48:36.600 consequences for exactly in this life the gospel when somebody embraces by grace through faith in

00:48:43.280 christ alone the gospel of jesus christ uh then their soul is saved in the eternal most significant

00:48:49.520 consequence namely the eternal conscious torment of the wrath of god for sinners uh you are

00:48:54.220 absolutely saved from that and not some of it or most of it but every single drop of the white hot

00:48:59.240 wrath of God has fallen on Jesus at Calvary on the cross instead of you. Penal substitutionary

00:49:05.420 atonement. Your sin was laid upon his shoulders, double imputation. Your sin imputed to him.

00:49:10.640 His righteousness is not just passive obedience in his death on the cross, but his active obedience

00:49:15.320 in his life, not just avoiding sin, but fulfilling all righteousness. All of that is imputed to you.

00:49:21.580 His righteousness becomes yours. Your sin was his. All that is absolutely true. And all that can be

00:49:28.740 true and is true if you embrace the gospel of jesus christ by grace through faith in christ 0.60

00:49:32.720 alone all that is true and you can also die of aids because you were a sodomite right um the we

00:49:39.700 have to be able to speak in in these two different categories and not just jesus juke um physical

00:49:46.060 reality we have to be able as christians to look at the world and embrace the gospel and spiritual

00:49:53.540 reality but also physical reality we can do both and that's the most your children especially will

00:49:59.040 be those closest to you and the ones by virtue of what you pass on to them the ones that you can

00:50:04.080 love the best so we can do a lot of good broadly to a wider range of people but the most good that

00:50:10.720 you truly can do is in what you give your children and if i'm saying this and you're like oh my

00:50:14.680 goodness i got saved at 29 right had my kids at 30 lived a terrible lifestyle before is it over

00:50:19.460 it's not over for one there's grace it also says in psalm the law of the lord makes wise the simple

00:50:24.440 so god's word and law will wisen you up as you seek to live well but then give them the best

00:50:28.860 chance by living in such a way that's not promiscuous that's not indulgent that takes

00:50:33.020 care of your body that god gave you to then give them the best chance i can't undo what you gave

00:50:37.640 to your children or the patterns you set up right those can't be undone that's the permanent nature

00:50:42.740 of it uh but but from here on out you do actually have the choice those choices in the back are all

00:50:47.120 closed off but you do have the choice now how are we going to live what habits am i going to set for

00:50:50.860 my kids like uh the mom is actually when it comes to physical activity to children the mom's activity

00:50:56.000 is what matters most that's what will be passed down so if you're a mom that's one of the most

00:50:59.720 loving things you can do you do a wide variety of loving things but you can instill them just

00:51:04.280 being active i'm not talking about necessarily running marathons you don't have to do that

00:51:08.200 but being active that is the most good you can do for someone that is the closest to you

00:51:12.760 your kin and your people that's good uh but i just i think i find it fascinating so can we spend a

00:51:19.800 little bit of time here at the end of the food pyramid go ahead do we want to do a commercial

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00:52:41.320 All right, welcome back. So the FDA food pyramid, I have it here in front of me. We're just going to

00:52:45.780 go down it. So the very top of the pyramid being smaller, that would be the idea of you get the

00:52:50.560 least of these. So the base is what you make the majority of your diet out of going all the way up

00:52:54.260 to the top, which is what you do the least. Fats, oils, and sweets, that would be used sparingly.

00:53:01.060 so not even a daily serving but like use as sparingly as you can right below that milk yogurt

00:53:06.580 and cheese groups two to three servings a day meat poultry fish dry beans eggs and nut groups

00:53:11.720 two to three servings so fats and oils milk yogurt and cheese meat those should be pretty

00:53:17.220 sparingly used then you get down the next layer vegetables and the fruit group and the very base

00:53:22.520 of it this is the fda food pyramid the food and drug administration their guidelines for americans

00:53:27.820 It's like, hey, as you structure your diet, think about eating in this way, the base of

00:53:32.100 the pyramid, what you should build most of your diet out of, bread, cereal, rice, and

00:53:38.340 the pasta group.

00:53:40.300 So fats, oils, milk, yogurt, fish, meat, poultry, highest level, use sparingly, vegetables

00:53:47.480 and fruits in the middle, and then at the very base, bread, cereal, rice, and pasta

00:53:51.680 groups.

00:53:52.440 I have a lot of thoughts on this.

00:53:53.680 I'll start from the top and then the bottom.

00:53:54.800 um fats and oils now not seed oils not the canola oils that are highly processed which by the way

00:53:59.820 canola is a seed oil even though it doesn't say in the name doesn't sound like a seed oil but it

00:54:04.100 is vegetable oil is another one of these correct me if i'm wrong there are other things that are

00:54:08.680 technically classified as seed oils like coconut oil or avocado oil right um but they are when we

00:54:14.300 say seed oils are bad for you we're talking about canola oil but like grape seed is another big one

00:54:20.540 but um but uh there are other seed oils that are um that actually are right yep for the most part

00:54:26.860 and the reason there's avocado yep the reason they're so bad is so olives and avocado they're

00:54:30.940 naturally very fatty foods you don't have to refine and process them so much to get the oil

00:54:36.080 out of them when it comes to grape seeds i mean the seeds of a grape my goodness it's probably

00:54:39.940 mustard seed and like grape seed just a tiny bit bigger what has to be done to them is this

00:54:44.040 industrial press that basically makes them rancid and extracts try to get that oil out and what

00:54:49.680 comes with it is called linoleic acid now it's in tiny amounts you're not having to process it as

00:54:53.640 much for avocado or olive oil but you're trying to get out of corn and grapeseed and all these

00:54:58.980 other oils uh this tiny seed that doesn't even have much oil in the first place and you're

00:55:02.920 over refining it you're pulling a lot of linoleic acid which is very inflammatory for your diet

00:55:07.740 so you want naturally occurring fats and our alzheimer's problem your brain has neurons and

00:55:13.700 the way neurons connect with one another is they transmit signals and they're wrapped in fatty

00:55:17.820 sheaths called myelin myelin so why is it that we have an alzheimer's problem in this country

00:55:22.500 decades of rising rates and then at the very top of this food pyramid we're told don't eat

00:55:28.180 fats and oils use them very sparingly don't put avocado oil on well that sounds like a very good

00:55:33.620 way for most people following this diet to deprive their brain of the precursor that sheaths your

00:55:40.140 neurons and prevents degenerative disease fats and oils good ones butter olive oil uh coconut oil

00:55:48.980 is another good one avocado oil for one they're delicious yeah beef tallow i cook a lot i cook

00:55:54.620 chicken nuggets and beef tallow these are good things for you not overly processed not the

00:55:59.240 junky stuff but they're good for you and your brain uses them and there's a reason they taste

00:56:03.340 good god did not make butter to taste good because it's bad for you didn't make milk to taste bad

00:56:09.920 because it's bad for you those are not in the use sparingly category those should be your base

00:56:14.860 any other thoughts on that on on fats and oils i got one more thought here on bread cereal rice

00:56:19.680 no keep going yeah i want to i want to talk about carbs but go ahead yep um so these for one they're

00:56:25.120 high in dopamine a lot of times too these are the ones so bread cereals rice and pastas that have

00:56:30.540 the most pesticides on them there's a book called toxic legacy on masono and glyphosate which is a

00:56:38.040 blanking on the word not preservative well it kind of is it's it dries them out it dries them

00:56:44.740 out it desiccates them yes but it's anti it's an anti-weed that's sprayed antifungal corn antifungal

00:56:50.420 bread but in that it kills weeds it also kills your carbon-based cells we spray it on all these

00:56:58.000 plants we genetically what it does is you genetically modify the corn so it's resistant

00:57:02.360 to the weed killer but it's even worse everything else because they discovered that it was killing

00:57:06.820 the weeds and they would do it early in the growing cycle and then rain would come and wash

00:57:10.960 a lot of it away but what they discovered was it was such a good way to to dry plants out that they

00:57:16.740 started spraying it on the grains after the harvest to keep them from molding um because it was such a

00:57:24.000 good dehydrator and so it wasn't it went from early you spray it on it kills the weeds a lot

00:57:29.940 of it gets washed off some of it comes through the processing to now we're spraying it on after

00:57:34.040 the harvest so that the wheat doesn't mold it stays dry and then it goes straight into production

00:57:39.200 with all of that on on it now and that's the con that's the standard practice now and there's a

00:57:43.960 huge lawsuit going on it's a pesticide that's what i was looking for pesticide some mentioned

00:57:47.980 the comments it's roundup glyphosate pesticides roundup uh if you're if your food is not organic

00:57:53.580 and especially these grown ones your breads your cereals all of these they have been drenched in

00:57:58.640 this stuff to get every single cent out of every single crop to make the most profit and it is

00:58:04.780 destroying health it's not the only factor it's not as though if you eat organic that's it right

00:58:09.220 you're fixed all the foods are fine uh but when it comes to these corn wheat others they're highly

00:58:14.740 processed and um they're covered in pesticides and they're also just simple they don't have a lot of

00:58:20.920 they don't have fats that protect your brain they don't have a lot of proteins uh you're dousing

00:58:25.180 them a lot of times in sugar yep so your breakfast cereal frosted shredded wheat it's like hey don't

00:58:30.480 have uh eggs and bacon you know for breakfast uh right i mean people in england are eating eggs

00:58:35.240 and bacon and living to be you know 115 you know years old uh but don't do that god forbid instead

00:58:41.340 you know you want to have a healthy breakfast of cheerios well turns out cheerios are bland you

00:58:46.400 know and uh well what about honey nut cheerios you know what about frosted flakes what about

00:58:51.360 fruit loops you know exactly and dyes and all exactly so then it's like you it's just grains

00:58:56.720 grains grains and barely barely even grains but yeah um and then all sprinkled with sugar sprinkled

00:59:01.440 with sugar sprinkled with sugar and um and but the crazy thing is i mean it'd be one thing to do that

00:59:06.780 as a food company because you just want to profit but it's another when uh when the medical

00:59:11.820 establishment is in bed with the food company and sitting there uh not just saying hey you know what

00:59:16.940 we know this isn't the best but every now and then it's okay to treat yourself you know and

00:59:20.500 uh you know the kids will enjoy it but that's not what they're literally saying this is better

00:59:25.500 than eggs they're talking about like yogurt a probiotic yeah probiotics um uh eggs like

00:59:32.660 if you eat eggs and uh and steak if you eat beef and eggs and raw milk you will live forever i

00:59:43.420 mean that's not true but you but like that i mean that's these are some of the best things you could

00:59:46.980 possibly have a 2021 survey of medical med schools in the uk and the u.s found that on average a

00:59:56.540 doctor in his medical training so we're talking seven years gets 11 hours of nutritional study

01:00:02.560 not 11 not 11 class hours 11 hours of nutritional training wow and then the rest they're going out

01:00:12.580 and they're trying to determine why someone is unhealthy and what can fix them and they have

01:00:17.200 almost no knowledge of nutrition wow so let's get practical what do you do you see this you say i

01:00:24.000 can recognize it myself i'm 20 30 pounds not me i'm not but you're you're watching this i could

01:00:29.100 lose a little bit i also recognize the unhealthy habits go around the table where where to start

01:00:33.960 because this it's living healthy is a lifestyle it's not simply an event you go to so some people

01:00:40.100 get out of shape and they'll be like that's it i'm signing up for p90x boot camp they go the first

01:00:44.220 day they're so sore they can't even go the second day and it's like a rubber band like back and

01:00:49.260 forth and they never stick to something either exactly i've been a bit guilty of that um so you

01:00:54.200 don't want to just jump back in to clean out the pantry and then do something that's unsustainable

01:00:59.040 the goal is a sustainable healthy approach um i would say one thing if you're married you you

01:01:05.740 have to be on the same page as your spouse. And maybe one of the, you know, maybe the wife wants

01:01:10.720 to go this far and the husband's like, I can only go this far. Okay. Be on the same page about what

01:01:14.420 you can both sustain for you, for the two of you, for the family, for the kids. The other thing is

01:01:20.660 you have to look at what food are you willing to change eating, right? You know, are we going to

01:01:31.760 buy organic food are we going to stop buying breakfast cereal um have some have some goals

01:01:37.460 but changing your diet is it's not just a matter of having self-control in the moment it's what

01:01:43.420 do we get when we go to the grocery store it is what aisles do we go down in the grocery store

01:01:48.000 and grocery stores have a whole science of attracting you to the higher profit items which

01:01:52.680 are generally more processed and less nutritious and so there's a lot that goes into just um what

01:01:59.700 grocery store do we go to where are we going in the grocery store what agreement do i and my wife

01:02:04.940 or husband have on on the changes that we want to make and then i think also it's it's it's important

01:02:11.180 it's urgent uh we we live in an unhealthy society but like you said wes don't make so many changes

01:02:17.560 so quickly that you just give up and you and you can't continue on don't make up anxious so don't

01:02:23.980 overdo it be anxious for nothing yep uh but but start making the change i think walking like i'm

01:02:28.740 not physically active whatsoever walk around your block like that is doable if you don't have the

01:02:33.260 time for that because because you're going to bear one of two weights one of two pains the pain of

01:02:37.380 discipline or the pain of regret you don't have a choice you will either be disciplined and you'll

01:02:41.920 reap the rewards of it and it's tough in the moment or you will regret what you did it's not

01:02:46.240 whether but which one so you can bear the pain of discipline now to get out and go on a walk

01:02:49.880 to cut the junk food out of the diet to clean out the cupboard and live a healthier lifestyle

01:02:54.000 or you can be 45 and you can have diabetes and you can realize you can't even go outside and

01:02:59.020 play basketball with your son one of the two yeah so pick now while you still have the choice because

01:03:03.800 you don't have the choice of 45 once the mold's been set so pick now to bear the weight of

01:03:08.580 discipline which is a weight but it weighs ounces compared to the regret when you can't undo this

01:03:13.200 this doesn't often get undone at 50 55 99 of the mold is cast you have a shorter window

01:03:20.060 not truly short you're a really short window uh where you can really change make a difference

01:03:24.800 really get on a better path to a healthy lifestyle start making those choices and i want to see you

01:03:29.420 do that i want to see all our kings and queens uh live great healthy lives have lots of kids and be

01:03:34.380 doing exactly that playing ball with their sons into their 50s right i'd recommend a consolidation

01:03:40.080 also um it's always hard to add an extra thing but if you can uh redeem the time the things that

01:03:47.440 you're already doing so um if you're you know father mother uh hopefully you're spending time

01:03:53.160 with your children right and as a family so instead of adding an extra thing for you to do

01:03:58.380 like once the kids are asleep and i'm exhausted it's you know it's 8 p.m you know if you have

01:04:02.200 younger kids they're in bed and now i'm gonna go run um instead it's like all right well you know

01:04:07.480 in the evenings we have a couple hours together as a family we have dinner um and then we do

01:04:11.600 something you know well whatever that something is um we're gonna do something together anyway

01:04:15.980 this is something we're already doing we're you know um so make it uh make it outside make it

01:04:20.720 physical make it um during the summer we're going to go to the pool you know um if it's uh you know

01:04:26.380 another time cooler part of the year uh we're going to go for a walk right we're already going

01:04:30.160 to be spending time together let's do that uh if it's family day uh instead of a movie picking you

01:04:35.560 know we're going to go to a trampoline park you know or we're going to go whatever and like

01:04:38.960 something that's we're going to be moving uh we're going to be active and then with the diet um man

01:04:44.240 i i am i do feel compassionate for a lot of people including myself uh but it's tough because uh i

01:04:52.200 it's it's not it's not merely um the the idea of well i just don't like healthy food and i want to

01:04:59.940 eat chips you know and and candy all day um it's also uh it's also the fact that uh food that's

01:05:07.620 bad for you is significantly cheaper you're going to mention that yeah yeah like it is it's not just

01:05:12.400 well I'll have to deprive my taste buds man if that was all it was like we'd be we'd be sitting

01:05:18.240 pretty but no it's like I'm going to have to making this decision when it comes to diet

01:05:25.040 is not just foregoing your passions it means foregoing your passions as a reflected in your

01:05:32.260 budget it doesn't just mean I'm going to deny my taste buds it means I'm going to deny certain

01:05:38.460 things, line items in our monthly budget. I'm going to literally have to, we're going to have

01:05:43.900 to cut out some expenses. We might have to sell the car and buy a beater. We might have to do this

01:05:50.700 or do that. We're going to have to lower the budget because our whole system is designed

01:05:55.620 to make you fat and unhealthy and dead. Eating healthy, it's not just, oh, well, it's not

01:06:02.660 frosted flakes or Froot Loops and doesn't taste as good. No, eating healthy requires a second

01:06:08.320 mortgage like it is insane like have you looked at beef prices like i mean teenagers like beef

01:06:14.900 tallow is like beef tallow is so good for you you know you should do it right huh yeah i'm with you

01:06:19.960 but do you have the credit to get approved for a loan right like i mean that's like that's what

01:06:24.300 we're talking about so yeah i just want to at the end i just felt like i'd be remiss if we're you

01:06:28.780 know giving counsel and not admitting um that there are some massive hurdles and one of them

01:06:33.620 is the financial piece.

01:06:35.600 And our forefathers recognized this to some degree.

01:06:38.420 I have it on authority from Eric Conn.

01:06:39.680 I can't find the exact quote,

01:06:40.700 but he said John Owen at the end of his life

01:06:42.080 said that there's almost nothing more important

01:06:44.160 than taking care of the body.

01:06:45.980 Calvin, too, recognized he worked himself to death.

01:06:48.600 Him and Spurgeon,

01:06:49.840 really both could have probably taken

01:06:50.880 a little bit better care of themselves.

01:06:52.140 They're just so driven and intelligent.

01:06:54.160 But he said, too, it's the body that affords us

01:06:56.360 the ability to do righteousness and do good for others.

01:06:59.140 So our forefathers, as time went on,

01:07:01.380 especially the Puritans, they recognized.

01:07:02.840 just edwards edwards was legendary about his diet and what would achieve optimal thinking

01:07:07.820 and ability and functioning and he had a very right very strict diet yeah absolutely if you're

01:07:13.580 drinking sugar and eating frosted fruit loops in the morning don't be surprised that it's 10 a.m

01:07:17.900 and you're falling asleep at your desk unable to do good work for your employer so caring for your

01:07:21.500 family doing good work for your employer being physically disciplined those stem in part from

01:07:27.000 your diet from the choices you make and the diet choice even is really a choice made at the grocery

01:07:30.980 store my indulgence is soda i don't buy it right and this isn't to say that we're nazis about about

01:07:37.360 junk food probably hit mcdonald's about once a month or so our family will do chick-fil-a every

01:07:41.620 once in a while like we're not so rigid about that that it's paranoia and it's anxiety it's just

01:07:46.700 in general our diet is bacon and eggs and steak and burgers and chicken and all of these different

01:07:52.140 things that are generally 80 20 80 percent of the percent of them are organic because it's expensive

01:07:57.360 So start with something maintain, maintainable and grow it rather than all in that you keep up for about two weeks.

01:08:04.720 Yeah, super helpful.

01:08:06.060 All right.

01:08:06.640 Great.

01:08:06.960 Well, thank you guys for tuning in and we will catch you on Friday.

01:08:10.160 We've got another episode with the 10 part series that I did with Brian Sauve and Ben Garrett, the co-host of Haunted Cosmos.

01:08:17.320 That's a 10 part series of the Friday special that we're in right now with Q2 of this year and then starting very soon, starting in July.

01:08:24.540 So we're coming up on June now, but starting in July, so just about five weeks away, we will be starting Q3, season three of the Friday special, which is with the co-hosts for Cultish.

01:08:36.420 And we're going to, again, another 10-part series.

01:08:38.960 That one we'll be dealing a little less with mermaids.

01:08:42.780 As popular as they were. 1.00

01:08:44.080 As popular as they were.

01:08:45.080 Well, some people love it.

01:08:45.980 And then some people are like, we will refute his political theology on the basis of what he said.

01:08:52.940 no can't uh deny that but um i heard him talk about mermaids and therefore we don't have to

01:08:58.640 listen so um but uh the uh season three with cultish we're going to be uh handling uh 10 of

01:09:04.680 the fastest growing cults in america each episode dealing with with one of those and so that'll be

01:09:09.460 really exciting and then of course uh michael and wes and myself will see you again lord willing

01:09:13.980 next wednesday so god bless

01:09:22.940 Thank you.

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