The NXR Podcast - The Next Crusade - ＂Feminism Killed More People Than Hitler, Stalin & Mao COMBINED＂ - Fr. Calvin Robinson

00:00:00.000 hello and welcome to the next crusade with me father calvin robinson this is the show where

00:00:25.920 we address current events and important topics from a Christian perspective. The headlines that

00:00:31.080 the mainstream media does not want to touch with a 10-foot barge pool. Coming up on today's show,

00:00:36.040 we've got Ben Powell and Sarah Gonzalez. Ben Powell is an independent researcher and writer

00:00:41.720 and a net zero skeptic. He's a co-founder of Climate Debate UK. And Sarah Gonzalez is the

00:00:48.700 host of Sarah Gonzalez Unfiltered on Blaze TV and Texas Scorecards Come and Take It. She's also

00:00:55.200 the VP of the Family Project Texas. But before we get to the guests, I want to talk a little bit

00:01:01.840 about feminism. Because Pol Pot killed roughly 2 million people. The Nazis killed somewhere 1.00

00:01:09.240 between 5 and 11 million. Genghis Khan and his Mongols killed around 20 to 40 million people. 0.99

00:01:17.800 Chairman Mao killed between 40 to 70 million people. 0.98

00:01:22.380 Communist regimes between 1910 and 1980 killed maybe 60 to 100 million people.

00:01:30.500 Add up all wars throughout human history, and they amount to an estimated 1.5 billion deaths.

00:01:38.060 That is inclusive of combatants, civilian casualties, and those who died of a result of the war, i.e. famine.

00:01:46.800 All of those figures are nothing in comparison to abortion,

00:01:52.440 which, since decriminalisation and legalisation in the 1970s,

00:01:57.520 has amounted to the monstrous 2.5 to 3.5 billion deaths.

00:02:05.520 Every single one of them marks the end of an innocent life. 1.00

00:02:11.660 Women have killed three times more people through abortion 1.00

00:02:14.960 that men have killed in any single war, genocide, or purge combined.

00:02:22.480 That is not to say that it's only a woman's issue.

00:02:27.380 Abortion is a societal problem that affects all of us, men and women alike,

00:02:31.960 and both men and women need to be more responsible in terms of sexual relationships.

00:02:37.660 Men need to take responsibility for their actions

00:02:40.140 and understand that one of the natural consequences of the marital act

00:02:44.440 is that a couple may be blessed by God with children.

00:02:48.840 Men need to be there for the women they have engaged in conjugal acts with.

00:02:53.920 Sex is not just for pleasure. 0.98

00:02:56.240 That would be the sin of fornication. 0.55

00:02:59.120 God, in his great wisdom, tried to guide us in this matter.

00:03:02.760 If only we would listen to him.

00:03:05.540 It should also be pointed out that men sometimes apply pressure

00:03:08.840 and or coerce women to get abortions.

00:03:11.360 This is an evil act.

00:03:12.600 but the statistical truth is that ultimately in the vast majority of cases abortion is

00:03:20.740 predominantly used as a contraceptive by women research in this area shows that 74 percent of

00:03:28.160 women who seek abortion say having a baby would dramatically change my life and 73 percent of them

00:03:36.340 say they can't afford a baby now. The fact of the matter is women need to stop killing their babies. 1.00

00:03:45.240 Again, I'm not pitting men against women in this, just trying to acknowledge an uncomfortable fact. 1.00

00:03:50.420 So yes, men need to step up more, but often men do not get a say and it is women who have the

00:03:56.900 power to end this great genocide of our age. Men, accept your responsibility. Be fathers to

00:04:05.320 the babies you create. Women, accept your responsibility. Be mothers to the babies you 1.00

00:04:10.940 create. This is undoubtedly the worst genocide in human history, and it is still very much 0.99

00:04:17.900 ongoing. There are roughly 73 million abortions every year. There is no word to describe this

00:04:26.200 degree of evil. We are living through an infanticide the likes of which mankind has never

00:04:31.320 seen before. The ancient Aztecs had nothing on liberal women of the 20th and 21st centuries. 1.00

00:04:39.540 And before someone pipes up in the comments to try and make the exception the rule,

00:04:43.300 less than 1% of abortions are due to rape, and less than 0.5% of abortions are due to incest.

00:04:51.300 Both evil crimes that must also be put to an end. Regardless, the baby should never be punished

00:04:58.240 for the sins of the father.

00:05:01.120 But even taking those extreme circumstances into consideration

00:05:04.380 and removing them from the data,

00:05:06.280 that still leaves another 72 million abortions per year.

00:05:11.520 Over 72 million babies are killed before they get a chance to live.

00:05:18.200 Every Christian, and indeed every decent person,

00:05:21.460 should be fighting for the abolition of abortion outright everywhere.

00:05:28.240 Thank God for his promise to Noah, because Lord knows we deserve a flood.

00:05:33.920 It is our responsibility to be fruitful and to go forth and multiply for the greater glory of God.

00:05:40.200 And what we are doing is the exact opposite.

00:05:43.780 In the last 20 years, the global birth rates have dropped from 2.7 to 2.4.

00:05:50.260 In the West, they fell below the replacement rate of 2.

00:05:53.800 The population is still increasing at the moment,

00:05:56.400 but only due to past births and increased life expectancy.

00:06:00.980 A matter of momentum.

00:06:02.780 If current trends continue, we will see the start of a decline from 2050 to 2060,

00:06:08.200 the likes of which we have never seen before,

00:06:11.580 well, at least not seen since the Black Death in 1350. 1.00

00:06:16.460 Feminism is demonstrably the most evil ideology in human history. 1.00

00:06:22.060 It's going to take us a lot of prayer and good works to reverse this trend. 1.00

00:06:27.280 Let us start by ending abortion.

00:06:29.760 There's never a good reason to end a baby's life. 0.95

00:06:33.160 Let us better support women so they no longer feel this is a viable option.

00:06:37.680 And let us encourage men and women to get married before engaging in the marital act. 0.99

00:06:43.260 A return to Christian values away from worldly promiscuity would go a long way toward repairing this grave error. 0.81

00:06:53.760 Let us pray in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. Amen. 0.94

00:06:59.040 Dear Jesus, bless our social and cultural climate.

00:07:03.540 Grant that our society may be purified of everything contrary to chastity

00:07:08.220 and that we may have the strength to resist the pressures of prevailing ideologies.

00:07:16.180 In the world you have tribulation, but be of good cheer, I have conquered the world.

00:07:22.240 John 16.33

00:07:23.460 In all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us.

00:07:30.340 Romans 8.37

00:07:31.880 In the name of God the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Amen.

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00:09:12.800 I am now joined by my guest, Ben Pyle.

00:09:15.500 Ben, you call yourself a net zero skeptic.

00:09:18.480 Thank you for joining us.

00:09:19.760 What is a net zero skeptic?

00:09:21.960 Well, I would say a net zero sceptic is arguing from the other end

00:09:27.200 of a lot of people who position themselves as climate sceptics

00:09:30.420 or people who are not entirely convinced by the argument

00:09:35.240 from the scientific argument from the beginning.

00:09:39.280 I took a slightly different approach after some time,

00:09:42.340 probably at that end of the pool as well.

00:09:44.420 But I believed from the outset that there was more going on

00:09:48.560 than can be just explained as a scientific error.

00:09:51.280 that we end up with policies like net zero

00:09:54.420 or the climate agenda in general

00:09:56.520 because there's a lot of ideology

00:09:59.600 in the presupposition,

00:10:02.380 the proposition from the outset.

00:10:05.420 Environmentalism has a history

00:10:06.720 that's a lot longer than the history

00:10:08.420 of climate politics, global climate politics.

00:10:11.760 It could go back into the 18th or 19th century

00:10:14.860 if we really wanted to,

00:10:16.600 but certainly the main part

00:10:19.480 of the green agenda begins in the late 1960s and early 1970s and of course it makes

00:10:27.160 many predictions that are seemingly grounded in science or something resembling scientific

00:10:33.320 methodology but all of these predictions which is the essence of science is prediction

00:10:39.880 in one sense come to naught and all of those ideas and all of those agendas or the programs

00:10:49.420 for how we're going to deal with these environmental problems nonetheless get repackaged, recycled

00:10:54.260 if you prefer, into the climate change agenda. And so it occurred to me that there was a bit

00:11:00.320 of a gap in the debate some time ago and that really that it's this ideology that we need

00:11:07.180 be interrogating and that actually um the agenda was very similar resonant in fact with a lot of

00:11:15.260 the other stuff that was going on and you know i i'd say they were of a piece and those are being

00:11:21.020 you know some of the military adventures that certainly britain much most of the west um were

00:11:26.060 getting involved with throughout the century um the rise of pandemic uh you know anxieties which

00:11:34.300 we've seen um and you know anxieties about food and so on so on and so forth you know all these

00:11:39.820 things that required very heavy technocratic imposition on people uh and the way they live

00:11:46.620 their lives um and and i don't think the green agenda was very far from any of that i think you

00:11:53.660 know so i think there's a little crossover there and and i thought that needed unpacking why is it

00:11:58.140 that governments, states, western states in particular, in the late 20th and early 21st

00:12:04.460 century, seem to need to compel people's obedience rather than require their assent

00:12:12.340 for governance, if you see what I mean. And I think that's a more fruitful way of examining

00:12:20.480 these kind of agendas than taking things for granted. Because there were terrorists, let's

00:12:26.040 be let's be frank about you know 2001 there probably is global warming and and and some

00:12:31.360 degree of climate changes we'll go on and talk about and there probably is such a thing as a

00:12:35.520 virus so you know i'm not i'm not going to be get cross about people being deniers of this that or

00:12:41.980 the other or anything and you know people are allowed to take those positions and make those

00:12:46.200 arguments but um i think that the most powerful lies have a grain of truth at their foundation

00:12:52.880 and um and that's sort of how that's been my approach it's been fascinating to me ben because

00:13:00.480 you you use the word ideology and i think it's it's even worse than ideology i think it's a

00:13:05.480 religious uh structure i think there's a belief system here because i know you co-founded climate

00:13:10.960 debate uk and i'm assuming that's because there wasn't much of a debate i haven't seen much debate

00:13:16.140 when i worked on national television we weren't allowed to ask questions so many areas of the

00:13:22.860 climate agenda or the climate crisis as they call it are off bound out of bounds it's taboo

00:13:28.280 now that's not how science works the scientific community has always been one of experimentation

00:13:33.600 theory and proof and questioning so how did we get to a point where i know you're alluding to it when

00:13:39.840 you say when you talk about technocratic governments and authoritarianism but how did

00:13:43.680 we get to a point where this whole climate conversation is one that is so ideological

00:13:49.260 that it's become a bit of a cult that's a probably a huge story i think i think there was a hot i

00:13:56.340 mean and there's a lot of background to it and i think there's been a hollowing out of democratic

00:14:00.960 politics but um to sort of narrow things down a bit um that that's the sort of context in which

00:14:09.560 reason and debate is beginning to be put out of public life and there's an expectation

00:14:17.860 that we can that society can be managed by technocratic panels and and also the you know

00:14:24.760 the main ideological struggles of the 20th century have kind of been resolved seemingly

00:14:30.480 between capital capitalism and communism and and so on and so what what what room is there

00:14:36.700 really left in society for democratic processes like that. You know, you've got a very limited

00:14:42.580 scope for democratic engagement by the end of the 20th century. I think that probably wasn't

00:14:49.080 satisfactory to many of those who've been leading the green agenda for quite some decades by that

00:14:56.960 point. And they're people who have great resources available to them. We call them the green blob.

00:15:04.080 You know, these are networks of NGOs and civil society organizations that have immense resources between them.

00:15:12.960 We're talking billions of pounds or dollars more precisely every year.

00:15:20.320 And they're the interests that sort of push this along.

00:15:24.300 And if we look at environmentalism in particular and probably the most sort of other contemporary ideologies, they don't require debate.

00:15:36.780 They're not from the democratic tradition. They don't seek your assent.

00:15:42.100 They seek your obedience. And it's very frightening to them, I think, that there are people that disagree.

00:15:50.620 I don't mean the sort of the people at the top of the blob necessarily.

00:15:54.300 But I think people have become accustomed to this sort of inflexible.

00:16:01.600 Maybe they're seeking orthodoxies.

00:16:03.740 Maybe this is a, I mean, you put it rightly when you say they're quite religious.

00:16:07.240 But maybe in the sort of decline of conventional traditional religions

00:16:11.700 and traditional ways of life, they do want something with something

00:16:17.660 resembling some of those, some of the things that religion did give them.

00:16:24.300 but they're now lacking.

00:16:27.620 And science is, or superficially,

00:16:30.880 science sort of seemingly answers some of those points,

00:16:35.800 you know, sort of fills some of those needs.

00:16:37.540 I often say as well, when the Cold War was over,

00:16:44.380 it kind of left a mushroom cloud hole

00:16:47.880 in people's view of the world.

00:16:50.420 They needed the certainty, the moral certainty

00:16:53.220 that the crusades that some of them were on were the right ones.

00:17:00.080 So, I mean, around the turn of the century and shortly afterwards,

00:17:03.540 I think that's when I started noticing this word denier getting used.

00:17:07.500 And it's an allusion to the Holocaust, of course.

00:17:12.240 It's a word for a heretic, isn't it? You're outside of the orthodoxy. 0.83

00:17:16.100 Yeah, and it's the deepest moral condemnation that a secular religion can come up with

00:17:22.720 that you deny this historical evil by comparison.

00:17:28.960 And the logic of the argument when they were trying to rationalise it

00:17:33.220 was that by denying climate change, you're preventing the policies

00:17:37.980 that will prevent millions and millions, perhaps billions, of deaths.

00:17:41.960 And you only have to look at someone like Roger Hallam on BBC News,

00:17:46.820 for example, that he's talking about billions of deaths

00:17:50.140 by the end of the 2020s you know if we don't solve this problem you know a man very clearly

00:17:55.980 gripped by religious fever whether or not he actually believes it you know he's kind of

00:18:03.180 quite a messianic character i've done parts on pieces on him in the past he is very much a cult 0.95

00:18:09.260 leader you know the stories he tells people that your parents will be bent over the table and raped

00:18:13.580 with with chair legs and like he goes very deep into what will happen in this climate crisis

00:18:18.220 to terrify people into following his cult yeah and i've i've debated with him and he's i wouldn't

00:18:24.140 say he's charming but he's got it he's got a way about him that's sort of quite invasive and and

00:18:29.420 slippery that that makes it you know he'll he'll agree with you about alarmism and then he'll go

00:18:35.500 on and be an alarmist he'll go and say the most alarmist things so it's quite it's quite they're

00:18:40.140 quite always quite tricky so so um i i think i i think there are many reasons why debate has become

00:18:46.860 verboten as it were um and i i think to find one would probably be quite tricky but you know we

00:18:54.140 don't have to look very far beyond the green movement to find areas of life in which debate

00:18:59.660 or opinions are are are you know uh prohibited the trans stuff the racial racial and and gender

00:19:08.940 uh stuff alike is is you know you're not allowed to have opinions on that stuff so

00:19:13.500 So I thought that we were kind of the first to be cancelled climate change deniers and climate change sceptics.

00:19:21.060 And in some senses, the climate debate in the 2000s and early 2010s were dress rehearsals for cancellations that were produced by the social justice warriors and the woke lot that subsequently.

00:19:34.380 So I think that people like me probably were sort of a bit too preoccupied with climate and didn't really see that this was a much broader sweeping social change that was happening.

00:19:49.020 That's interesting. I hadn't considered that.

00:19:50.600 So the same mechanisms that were used to call people climate deniers is the same mechanism they're using, well, they were using through BLM, they have used through COVID.

00:20:01.660 but what do you think the motivations are or is it multiple motivations because when I look at

00:20:06.640 this from the outside I see there's genuine belief so people on the ground that the 20 year old

00:20:11.920 white liberal women who get all upset about the climate crisis I see genuine belief in them they're

00:20:17.220 following a cult and then the people like Boris Johnson and Stanley Johnson I see I see two

00:20:23.080 different motivations I see in Boris I see power I see people that want to control other people's

00:20:29.100 lives and in his father i see profit when i see how much money they're making out of this what i

00:20:34.160 would call the green scam of moving people away from one system of power to another system of

00:20:39.560 power and people are making so much money in the middle like what do you think is is behind all of

00:20:45.040 this is it belief is it power is it profit is all three it's definitely all three and i divide those

00:20:50.300 two that's a really sharp observational thing and i divide them into establishment environmentalists

00:20:55.840 than street-level environmentalists.

00:20:58.520 And, you know, it would be, I guess it would be a bit mean

00:21:02.940 to say all those people that I have seen on Extinction Rebellion marches

00:21:06.520 and so on and say they don't believe it.

00:21:10.140 I don't know what the likes of Ed Miliband or Boris Johnson

00:21:14.420 or Stanley Johnson really believe, and a mind probe isn't going to help us.

00:21:17.900 So I think we have to sort of confine our critiques to the ideology

00:21:22.120 and the policy agendas and the arguments that they make.

00:21:25.020 I think there's a sociological explanation for the street-level environmentalists, the activists.

00:21:36.260 I think that they are invariably drawn from the upper middle class.

00:21:41.120 They're not hard done by.

00:21:43.040 They're certainly not working class, let's put it that way.

00:21:46.260 And they're often quite, you know, it's almost a hobby for them, a lot of them.

00:21:51.300 But that's not to say those convictions aren't real.

00:21:53.980 But they are from a class, often a dysfunctional end of a class that's probably got no real position in society in the way that it did have 50, maybe 100, and certainly before that years ago.

00:22:09.420 So I think the broader change for the people with more power is, as we've seen with the sort of processes of globalization and the organizations and institutions of globalization.

00:22:28.160 And I never want to put too much emphasis on the WEF because there are what I would say about them is that there's a number of them.

00:22:36.460 There's, you know, at least a dozen, maybe two dozen sort of equivalent organizations.

00:22:40.780 But the way I liken it is to something of a unsupervised school disco in a small town, which mysteriously a couple of months later, there's an outbreak of chlamydia or some such thing.

00:22:53.720 These are socially transmitted, ideology is socially transmitted disease in that sense.

00:22:59.340 And so they pick it up from each other.

00:23:02.040 They rub shoulders.

00:23:03.080 They don't, and as a class, the political class, that is to say, they don't really like the hoi polloi.

00:23:09.540 They don't like, they don't really like the ordinary business of politics.

00:23:13.940 They don't like the bin collections. 0.95

00:23:15.600 They don't like the management of roads and so on and so forth.

00:23:17.900 They're really happy if they're serving some global agenda.

00:23:22.900 And that's been put on a plate for them by those other more powerful interests, the ones you identified, you know, those who would sort of fund a lot of the blob.

00:23:35.960 We might look at Michael Bloomberg, George Soros comes up a lot, Bill Gates, Christopher Hone, who's our own British billionaire, and the British-American billionaire, Jeremy Grantham.

00:23:46.560 So they put a huge amount of money through these organizations. One sort of philanthropic

00:23:54.240 organization that funds the global climate agenda or puts money through these organizations

00:24:04.800 estimates $13 billion a year, and that's a few years ago. That was their estimate then

00:24:09.840 of philanthropy, let's do the air quotes, goes to organizations, some of which are like Extinction

00:24:17.420 Rebellion, some of which are kind of quite anonymous. A lot of them get founded just for

00:24:22.360 sort of special purposes. So, and in my attempts to sort of survey these, and a lot of this stuff

00:24:29.140 is not, you know, very easy to obtain. You have to do it very, very slowly. You have to read their

00:24:35.060 annual reports you have to sort of work out how much is going from who um and to whom for what

00:24:41.040 and when um quite slowly it's very difficult to investigate any anyhow one one the british

00:24:47.020 billionaire christopher home for example puts more than a quarter of a billion dollars into

00:24:52.660 green organizations each year it's just one guy and that's more than is the spend of all political

00:24:59.900 parties active in the uk combined so it's a huge huge powerful lobbying effort and um a lot of

00:25:08.460 greens might sort of interject at that point and say yeah but big oil bill oil's got you know this

00:25:12.780 sort of balance sheet of trillions of dollars each year um uh but that's that i mean that might be

00:25:18.220 true but they're buying metal with it they're not using it as pr and then a lot of the also

00:25:24.140 this crossover as well ben i i found a trace of big oil money going to a person you mentioned

00:25:28.620 earlier roger hallam who is the founder of extinction rebellion just stop oil animal

00:25:33.020 rebellion instillate britain and the burning pink party like these tendrils get everywhere

00:25:37.740 but the big money doesn't just come from one side i think i think it is all on their side

00:25:43.180 um i mean i think i think that there's been occasions where i think the sierra club

00:25:47.740 which is a very large uh green ngo in the us um was found to have been taking money i think from

00:25:54.620 from, I forget the actual dimensions, but there was a, you know, it was either a coal company

00:26:01.360 seeking to sort of diminish nuclear or gas, or a gas, you know, gas interest seeking to diminish

00:26:08.440 nuclear and coal. One of the, it doesn't really matter. But it's kind of, that's kind of quite

00:26:14.160 similar to the revelation that we've had recently about the Southern Poverty Law Center funding 0.57

00:26:18.900 neo-nazi campaign so it's um it's all very mysterious but the the green's um attempts to

00:26:26.240 find um big oil money funding the likes of me um just fall flat on their face they're pure

00:26:33.600 conjecture and they'll in britain that that will all invariably involve um uh hyperbolic statements

00:26:42.280 about the extent to which tufton street is involved in policy making britain i've spent a

00:26:48.600 lot of time down tufton street it is all it's a fallacy this whole who funds you is a fallacy

00:26:54.960 because it suggests that you can't care about a cause unless you're funded by someone which

00:26:58.960 actually i think is projection on their part because they're often funded by other interests

00:27:03.580 but you mentioned the world economic forum i've attended the world economic forum and i

00:27:07.100 i verify what you say it isn't you know they're not policy making they're not actually that smart 0.94

00:27:12.000 it's just lots of back patting just lots of uh social cohesion picking up foolish people picking

00:27:18.180 up foolish ideas but the UN is different the UN does create policy and that is pushed upon most

00:27:24.140 of us including Great Britain you know there's the climate agenda 2030 there's also the Paris 0.58

00:27:28.980 agreement can you talk us through a little bit of that and how it comes how that is top down

00:27:32.700 yeah well I think I think in many sense what you're saying is that the the sort of billionaire

00:27:37.420 clubs if you like were sort of organized in in in a way to try and speed up the UN processes

00:27:45.340 and to push them.

00:27:48.100 So the Green Agenda gets put on the UN's political map in 1972.

00:27:55.220 So there's this first meeting of the United Nations Environment Programme

00:28:00.140 in 1972, curiously convened by one Maurice Strong,

00:28:05.800 who was a Canadian oil tycoon, also using a lot of money

00:28:10.480 from the Rockefellers, which is, of course, a historic energy company family,

00:28:17.100 which were sort of involved in the green gender variously throughout the 20th century.

00:28:24.600 So this begins as sort of more concerned with pollution and overpopulation

00:28:32.740 and resource depletion rather than climate change through the 1970s. 0.95

00:28:39.140 And it coincides with the oil shocks, 1972, 1979, the latter being, of course, the Iranian

00:28:46.980 Revolution. 0.54

00:28:48.240 So these sort of events seem to confirm what the Green story has been telling us, you know,

00:28:53.780 that the resources are running out and we need to change our ways and we need to sort

00:28:58.380 of give more thought to nature, not entirely without foundation.

00:29:02.180 You know, I don't want to say that there is no such thing as pollution and that we should

00:29:07.160 be you know we should we shouldn't regard it as a problem that can be managed i think what we're

00:29:12.280 talking about when we're talking about global environmentalism is the reorganization of politics

00:29:18.320 globally and nationally um away from democratic control of policy and i think those interests

00:29:25.380 that were there that put it on the the global stage global political uh stage um was to increase

00:29:33.520 their own power and they do that by i mean maybe we'll come on to this a bit more later but um it's

00:29:39.560 to restrict economic growth explicitly and it's to say that um economic growth is impossible

00:29:47.000 within the constraints of the natural environment you know people may have said you know we're

00:29:51.640 exceeding the carrying capacity of planet earth um and and so and that's an economic argument

00:29:58.180 that's an argument for zero economic growth and zero population growth and zero technological

00:30:03.040 political growth, all of which are problematic on their own terms if you try and take them apart.

00:30:10.520 But so, and so they, you know, what do they get out of it is that they get a zero-sum game they

00:30:17.920 already control large portions of. But this gets established very, very quickly on the global

00:30:23.540 political stage, despite the failures of those, the sciences, the sciences underpinning those

00:30:29.980 those claims um and um and you know we're only talking like the 70s and 80s before the collapse

00:30:35.660 of uh the soviet union and and this changes the whole dynamic of of of uh global politics

00:30:43.200 and the the the reports from the un after the collapse of the the the soviet union the end of

00:30:49.560 the cold war they're very briefly extremely optimistic about it they're saying wow you know

00:30:55.260 for the first time in our history, the world is not going to be characterised

00:31:00.600 as embedded in a deep conflict, and this is going to create many great possibilities

00:31:10.140 for the poorest people in the world.

00:31:12.740 And then within a year, they're back to despair because the story about the end

00:31:19.080 of the planet, the end of all life on Earth is back, not in the shape

00:31:22.920 of global thermonuclear war, but in the shape of thermageddon from climate change and global warming.

00:31:28.920 I see it. From a Christian perspective, I see this as a spiritual war. And I don't know your

00:31:33.920 faith, Ben, but you might think this is crazy. But I often say that the 1960s and, well, late 1960s,

00:31:39.680 early 1970s is when the devil really took foothold in Western civilization. You know,

00:31:45.240 the sexual revolution, the promotion of abortion, you know, mass infanticide, liturgical reforms,

00:31:51.880 systems and the climate crisis, the theory of overpopulation. And actually, if you break any

00:31:57.920 of these things down and look at them, it's dark and it's spiritual. The idea that we are overpopulated

00:32:02.320 is a nonsense. The only reason that the global population is still rising gradually is because of

00:32:08.100 longer life expectancy. And actually, we're going to see a global decline in population numbers for

00:32:14.780 the first time in hundreds of years, very, very soon in our lifetimes. And so it's clear to me

00:32:19.160 that a lot of this is just fluff it's not actually based in science it's not true it's a scare tactic

00:32:24.280 in order to well as i point out it's quite a spiritual battle between good and evil that

00:32:29.000 christians were called to go forth and multiply were called to steward the earth and the enemy

00:32:33.980 wants the opposite of that and so i think the climate agenda is is yes it's control but it's

00:32:38.980 control for a dark means but we're shifting back to secular um you know what cars you can buy what

00:32:45.020 what they're made of um what boilers you're allowed in your own house what stoves you can

00:32:49.620 have whether it's gas or wood burning uh what kettles you can have and how fast they can boil

00:32:54.320 your water what washing machines you're allowed is the micromanaging of every little aspect of

00:32:59.980 the human life in until you no longer feel like a free man in a free country you feel like the state

00:33:04.540 is governing you and running your life for you yeah i don't i i think my secular that's a i have

00:33:11.640 a sort of pet argument that nothing has changed since 1972 i mean we have we have don't have the

00:33:17.440 cold war anymore but i mean how much has changed uh really you know um and and and so yeah we sort

00:33:24.140 of hit the end of the 1960s and everything just just stops and this this immense social

00:33:28.780 transformation as you said and the people sort of probably embraced a bit too readily without

00:33:34.840 thought for the consequences one of the which is um i mean just to put it back to the spiritual

00:33:40.780 thing and i'm not i'm i don't bring a particularly i don't bring any sort of um faith to that

00:33:46.420 analysis but when i do see i have been on extinction rebellion marches to sort of watch

00:33:51.380 them so i might see a very large religious contingent there and i do wonder are you

00:33:56.180 worshipping the creator or are you worshipping his creation because i think there's probably

00:34:00.320 quite a distinction and this turns into the the worship of spreadsheets essentially it's like

00:34:05.920 this is how your lives are to be managed and to be regulated

00:34:12.660 through these sort of ideas about how much is too much

00:34:15.800 and what is necessary.

00:34:20.820 And I think that has come, I mean, it's taken them a long time

00:34:28.340 to sort of get to that position, to get to where spreadsheets

00:34:33.160 of of these metrics are are in control um so i don't want to be too despairing of it because i

00:34:40.320 think i and i think we're at a moment where where that where that is is collapsing um uh but it's

00:34:46.960 not necessarily going to collapse uh gracefully or in our favor that when when it does when this

00:34:54.500 kind of view of how to manage society does dissolve we're not necessarily we're going to be

00:35:00.960 without a lot of what what made things possible what made life possible um through through the

00:35:09.040 20th century through the 19th century and what made life better um i think and i think it is

00:35:15.960 very interesting that a lot of the sort of focal wisdom that existed about what you should eat was

00:35:22.480 just turns out to be quite right you know eat food not too much uh more or less mostly plants

00:35:29.880 although some people say meat is better.

00:35:32.780 But the other thing that concerns me about that time

00:35:38.740 is that that is very much the point of inflection,

00:35:43.120 exactly as you say,

00:35:44.340 where people stop dying before they're five on average,

00:35:48.120 and they start living until they're 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s.

00:35:52.980 Things were going right before the Greens turned up and said,

00:35:56.820 well, no, we have to have this kind of diet. 0.57

00:35:58.640 we have to manage society in this way. And I hear quite often when I sort of read or hear or read

00:36:06.560 these kind of global policy walks about, oh, you know, well, how are we going to feed nine or 10

00:36:12.840 billion people? And I'm always struck by that, because I think 10 billion people are actually

00:36:19.540 all very capable of feeding themselves. They always were. That's what people did. Before there

00:36:26.220 was government yeah there was there was there were there were markets you know where people

00:36:32.000 who had too many oranges swap them for some beef and so on and so forth and and and um but that

00:36:38.560 question tells you a lot doesn't it about their thought process how are we going to feed these

00:36:42.000 people yeah like we we belong to them and that we are infanticized and they they have to somehow

00:36:47.180 they are they are our caregivers yeah yeah and they're the overseers of all all of this stuff

00:36:53.860 and then and of course that it's it's very cynical it's it's it's it's how they're going

00:36:59.700 to manage it in their own interests um on the assumption that global society is too complex

00:37:07.020 for the participants in markets or global any part of global society is is too difficult for

00:37:13.800 for those people to manage for themselves um you know this idea of complexity is is is often

00:37:20.160 invokes that we can't be aware of what what is what is around us um and it creates um i think

00:37:28.260 it creates a self-fulfilling prophecy that the more you take agency away from people in that

00:37:33.060 respect the more you create a dependent population even to the point of being you know supplicants

00:37:38.800 and and and so on um and so i'm i'm deeply suspicious of of of of that i i you know i'm

00:37:46.320 I'm not I'm not necessarily making a case for total autarky at the level of family or community or even or even country, you know, where we all live some kind of Tom and Barbara good life.

00:37:59.920 But there needs to be a reassertion of what we're capable of, including democratic participation, as well as making our own food and making our own decisions about what we eat.

00:38:13.800 But it's a complex question.

00:38:17.080 But I think that was a good answer.

00:38:19.020 It leads into why people like myself are getting very suspicious at the moment,

00:38:24.080 whilst the Green Lobby is saying we need to eat less meat

00:38:26.780 and we need to have fewer cows because they're all bad for the environment,

00:38:30.180 even though it's a God-given right to eat off the land

00:38:34.620 and to eat the produce of the land, including the animals.

00:38:37.980 um there's and at the same time we're seeing this mass um infection of ticks here in the u.s

00:38:46.940 which somehow have an illness alpha gal that prevents people from eating meat and makes you

00:38:53.760 allergic to meat and like so i'm putting two and two together and maybe i'm equaling five but i'm

00:38:58.700 seeing you know big green doesn't want us eating meat suddenly we've got these ticks everywhere 0.68

00:39:03.400 out of nowhere farmers are finding boxes full of ticks and you know all their animals are covered

00:39:07.500 ticks and these ticks happen to make us allergic to meat i don't know i don't know too much about

00:39:13.660 story it's only it's only sort of come up on my radar recently i think that it i hope it's not

00:39:18.900 true um that there would be such a a thing going on but i mean you you do find behind quite a lot

00:39:28.800 of arson in places where wildfire has has um has caught the international news agenda you do find

00:39:39.380 environmentalists going around with lighters um you know as much as half of the even in britain

00:39:47.140 as much as half of the accidental fires end up being being deliberately caused by people and

00:39:53.520 Most of the rest is just negligence.

00:39:56.660 So, yeah, I wouldn't be surprised.

00:39:58.720 I think with meat as well, it's amazing the construction of that mythology

00:40:03.740 because if you go back in time and you look at how many cattle there were

00:40:12.000 or creatures equivalent to cans, there's barely been any reduction

00:40:17.300 in a place like America, or increase, for that matter,

00:40:21.800 in the number of animals.

00:40:25.160 So, you know, we kind of got as many cows as we ever had.

00:40:30.160 And there are very good arguments as well that those animals

00:40:34.740 are part of the ecosphere, part of the carbon cycle.

00:40:39.540 I'm not going to go down that route too much,

00:40:41.640 but I find it interesting that one idea that there are too many cattle

00:40:46.160 gets emphasized where an idea that sort of observes that cattle consume a part of the

00:40:53.960 carbon cycle including regenerating soil is emitted and it doesn't get an equal footing

00:41:00.640 in news media or in scientific research or more importantly funding for scientific research

00:41:07.340 So the whole thing is quite tilted.

00:41:12.060 But yeah, let's hope that either there's a solution

00:41:16.640 to the tit-borne pathogen that produces an allergy to me

00:41:22.840 or it dies out.

00:41:25.360 But yeah, very worrying.

00:41:27.300 Well, you mentioned people that you believe

00:41:28.920 may worship creation rather than the creator.

00:41:33.120 I think there is definitely an element of that.

00:41:34.780 but there's also people that think of themselves as creator

00:41:37.820 and they want to shape creation around themselves.

00:41:40.960 One of my concerns is, well, in the meat conversation,

00:41:43.560 it's Bill Gates who's buying up all the farmland

00:41:45.340 and trying to prevent people from farming

00:41:47.520 at the same time as creating lab-grown meat.

00:41:49.520 I hate the idea of lab-grown meat.

00:41:51.240 For me, it seems very unnatural.

00:41:53.120 At the same time, you mentioned this ecosphere

00:41:55.480 and we've always recognized there is an ecosystem

00:41:57.900 we're a part of and that's important in the cycle of life.

00:42:00.600 But now we're talking about the idea of let's not black out the sun,

00:42:03.720 but let's put a layer between us and the sun to protect us from ultraviolet rays which we've

00:42:09.040 always known are natural and part of our life cycle like this there seems to be this element

00:42:14.620 of people who are part of this agenda who want to play god and want to make gods of themselves

00:42:19.000 and want to shape our creation around their ideology and that seems to me very dangerous

00:42:22.680 i agree in it to accept you know we've got our first trillionaire now um i i don't find him i

00:42:28.940 I mean, he's a curious character.

00:42:30.640 I used to be very ambivalent about them.

00:42:33.440 I think, and there's a danger that if we get too caught up

00:42:36.840 in what billionaires can do, we lose sight of what we can do

00:42:41.760 in these debates.

00:42:43.520 So we've got to be careful that sort of it doesn't become

00:42:46.020 a fait accompli and it's all just down to the billionaires

00:42:50.240 and their lobbying groups.

00:42:51.900 But they are something of a force that does need to be reckoned with. 0.88

00:43:01.880 And I think with the likes of Bill Gates, I mean, I think he promotes a bit of a crook, really.

00:43:08.300 I can't deny his success in creating a brilliant marketing strategy.

00:43:13.520 But if you look at how he developed that company, he took some liberties with other people's work and so on and so forth.

00:43:20.240 That's all history.

00:43:21.320 But what I think that the NGO complexes that sort of surround him and the, you know, the blobs, I guess we could say, they do seem to be very much about servicing the vanity of billionaires and, you know, who want to, you know, you go to somewhere, go around Leeds, Bradford.

00:43:41.320 There's a little settlement, I suppose, at the edge of Bradford called Salt Air, which was, you know, built by this Victorian philanthropist, Salt.

00:43:56.920 I think it was Methodist, so there's no pubs and things like that.

00:44:00.400 And some of it is amazing.

00:44:01.800 Some of it's beautiful.

00:44:02.580 There's lots of civic amenities there and stuff like that.

00:44:06.080 So the industrialists of the past did used to build statues.

00:44:09.740 They did also build quite nice towns. The chocolate tycoons of York is also another interesting, quite nicely set up parts of the city were founded by these tycoons.

00:44:26.380 But now, you know, so this is that plus plus. This is like, you know, that squared or now that cubed. We haven't had these hyper accumulations of wealth, either in the forms of billionaires before or in the forms of hedge funds.

00:44:40.320 So hedge fund managers have a lot to answer for with respect to the climate agenda or the green agenda.

00:44:49.580 And so, yeah, they seem to – I mean, does Bill Gates wake up one day and think, I'm going to solve climate change?

00:45:01.020 Or is his preoccupation himself?

00:45:04.400 I mean, can we even answer that question without a mind probe?

00:45:07.740 I don't know.

00:45:08.400 I think we could speculate.

00:45:09.680 I think a lot of these people, because they have no faith,

00:45:11.960 one, they're looking for purpose, so maybe what can I do to contribute?

00:45:15.300 But also, secondly, they're very transhumanist,

00:45:18.040 so they're looking, how can I live forever?

00:45:19.720 Because they don't believe in an afterlife.

00:45:21.040 So it's like, how can I protect what I have here?

00:45:23.360 I've amassed all this wealth.

00:45:24.880 How can I hold on to it?

00:45:26.040 I think a lot of it is there.

00:45:27.540 One of them does have some crazy – Christopher Hone, in fact.

00:45:31.860 He's separated from his previous wife, 0.84

00:45:35.300 and his new wife is into past life regression.

00:45:38.260 So apparently he's sort of investing quite a lot of his funds in spiritual awareness, which involves exactly past life regression.

00:45:47.320 And so it's quite dubious kind of from, I think, probably from most most angles. 0.99

00:45:57.440 But I think I think he's just a fool. 0.99

00:46:00.800 I mean, I think a lot of these people are much more lucky than they are clever. 0.99

00:46:04.160 And I often think about it. What would it take for you to become a billionaire?

00:46:08.260 And, you know, and I think of it in orders of magnitude, you've got 10, which is, you know, 10 to the power of one, 10 to the power of two, which is 100 and so on and so forth.

00:46:19.560 In order to become a billionaire, you have to go through all these orders of magnitude.

00:46:23.580 I mean, you have to have, like, you know, a serious level of commitment to want to accumulate that much money, either through one company or through hedge fund management and so on.

00:46:34.780 um most people would have given up by by at least the million if not the 10 million going

00:46:40.880 well maybe that's enough i don't i don't want to turn it into an issue of greed or anything like

00:46:45.180 that but but we we it does it does raise some very difficult questions and i don't think like

00:46:51.320 libertarians or capitalists can can just take their answers for granted like that's it's not

00:46:57.520 enough just to say liberty rules and that's it or or you know everything is fair about the and

00:47:03.260 write about the capitalist system and I don't think that sort of raising those questions

00:47:08.680 necessarily makes one a full-on commie either, right? It's a tricky thing and it's new historical

00:47:19.880 territory. We've never been here before. We've never had a trillionaire before and just imagine

00:47:25.240 what a huge amount of resources that means someone could command. I'm not as suspicious

00:47:31.360 of mask but but i i think and i think that if we had sort of more democratic governance maybe

00:47:39.560 those questions wouldn't be so uh pertinent to today's today's things and maybe we're not we

00:47:44.740 would be talking about green blobs we wouldn't be talking about wefs and so on and so forth

00:47:49.380 well that's interesting because most of this conversation although it's a net zero conversation

00:47:53.880 hasn't really been about the green agenda it's about power it always comes back to power and

00:47:58.180 we've talked a lot about the technocratic authoritarianism. We've talked about the

00:48:01.940 billionaires. We've talked about the governments and the blobs and the UN, all of these powers.

00:48:08.080 So I suppose my final question will be, what can people do to reverse this? So you've been 0.96

00:48:13.700 alluding to in your tweets a lot lately that the state seems to think that we belong to it.

00:48:19.140 And we used to have an understanding that the state was there to serve us. Is there a way we

00:48:23.500 can through through us a regular folk is there a way that we can reverse that mentality and get

00:48:28.440 back to elected representatives representing us rather than micromanaging every element of our 1.00

00:48:33.160 lives regardless of whether it's the green agenda covid black lives matter feminism doesn't matter 0.69

00:48:37.880 like how do we get our how do we get control back well i hope the answer is that we start 1.00

00:48:42.300 unpicking the arguments um that the other side have made and we start making them more forcefully

00:48:47.180 i think we've got to resist some of the easy solutions to that now i i should probably outline

00:48:53.000 why I disagree, first of all, about climate change. And very briefly, I divide the climate debate in

00:49:02.440 total into five categories. And the first is global warming or global warming science,

00:49:07.560 which makes sort of predictions about what CO2 will do when there's going to reach

00:49:11.720 certain amounts of concentrations in the atmosphere. And from global warming, we get

00:49:16.120 climate change, which is the second category. And of course, we all know what this is. This is

00:49:20.200 the difference, the increase in storms, increasing rainfall, so on and so forth, all these metrics.

00:49:27.640 And then we get to more tricky concepts like climate impacts.

00:49:33.920 These are like the third order consequences of global warming, right?

00:49:39.800 And then from impacts, they would be things like increased disease proliferation,

00:49:46.640 um more floods um and and more drought and and and then these impacts influence human society

00:49:56.240 which is um what we might call the climate crisis and i have the fifth which is climate policy but

00:50:02.740 let's let's look at the fourth and fifth the fourth and fifth are climate impacts and climate

00:50:07.560 crisis now i say that it's very it's been incredibly difficult for scientists or any

00:50:12.100 kind of researchers to identify climate impacts and there is less than zero in evidence of the

00:50:18.060 climate crisis. Practically all of the metrics of human welfare over the last part of the 20th

00:50:26.160 century and this century are massively increasing. So there's clearly something wrong with that

00:50:33.400 sequence that Greens make the case of, right, that global warming gives climate change and

00:50:40.480 climate change creates climate crisis right there is manifestly an error here and I think it is

00:50:46.960 ideology that sits in in in people's heads and in those arguments to that makes it a much easier

00:50:53.660 bridge that just sort of links climate change immediately to climate crisis and that would be

00:50:59.380 stuff like war that would be stuff like poverty and that that we know that's people people dying

00:51:05.580 from extreme weather, which we can see from very clear statistics

00:51:09.300 have sort of fallen by about 99% over the course of the last 100 years.

00:51:15.760 So I think we need to interrogate things on that basis,

00:51:20.920 not depend on expertise to do it either.

00:51:23.720 I don't think you need to have a degree in climate science

00:51:26.360 to start unpicking these claims.

00:51:28.800 Just as I didn't think that you needed to be a microbiologist

00:51:32.200 or whatever speciality you need,

00:51:35.280 to unpick some of the COVID stuff.

00:51:37.460 And you don't need a degree in left-wing sociology

00:51:41.820 to unpack the gender and racial ideological stuff either.

00:51:47.580 You just have to have the confidence to do it

00:51:51.260 and to think clearly about these things.

00:51:57.440 And there are a few people, I think,

00:51:59.160 who do offer us, unfortunately,

00:52:01.960 some shortcuts through that little bit sloppy.

00:52:04.620 And I think we should sort of challenge ourselves as much as we try and challenge the other party.

00:52:10.620 I think that whether or not we are successful in unpacking any of those things to reassert democracy,

00:52:18.380 I think that the way things are probably going to play out is that there is going to be a crisis of their own making

00:52:24.640 that forces a reflection on these things.

00:52:29.900 you know, that classic shorthand, you know, soft men create hard times, hard times create,

00:52:37.360 I forget the precise formulation, you know what I mean. And so I think we're going to have to,

00:52:44.760 I think it will come together out of those crises. I don't think it's going to be a,

00:52:48.960 you know, overwhelming, overweening crisis. I think it will be, you know, staggered and managed.

00:52:55.660 Well, I hope, at least I hope so. And I hope that that will cause us some reflection and reorganisation from below rather than this dependency on above.

00:53:07.800 So I hope that people would look at my stuff on this subject and with the caveat that I think that climate now is quite well established as a little bit too narrow to explain the entire phenomenon.

00:53:23.720 And it was, I think, through the 2000s and 2010s, it was a very interesting lens through which to see the development of all these other ideological problems and the development of global politics and its misadventures.

00:53:39.900 And I think still think there's some story in there because the green agenda is very particular.

00:53:46.540 You can identify what the forces are. You can identify who the blobs are and so on and so forth.

00:53:53.320 might be more difficult in other domains um but i think this is this is the approach we need don't

00:53:58.300 just let's not just deny these problems let's let's and uh uh you know let's try and analytically

00:54:06.260 take them apart and and and and consider and and put in its place what we think we want to get out

00:54:13.900 of life so ask questions challenge the narrative challenge ourselves stop relying on experts

00:54:20.200 and hope that they will listen to reason.

00:54:22.920 That's it, I'm not sure. Thank you.

00:54:25.300 Ben Powell, where can people find out more about you?

00:54:28.760 Sometimes on Twitter.

00:54:30.220 I've decided to step back as much as I can,

00:54:32.680 but I'll put my links to anything I produce.

00:54:36.660 I write a few articles a week and I produce a few videos.

00:54:40.900 So they'll be on my Twitter, which is climate, C-L-I-M,

00:54:46.560 number eight, resistance.

00:54:48.140 and I've got a website,

00:54:51.840 climatedebate.co.uk

00:54:54.520 and I have a substack called

00:54:56.660 the Net Zero Scandal.

00:55:00.680 Excuse me, I shouldn't forget this stuff.

00:55:02.760 NetZeroScandal.substack.com

00:55:05.240 and everything goes on there as well.

00:55:08.180 We'll make a note to put the links

00:55:09.400 in the description so people can follow you

00:55:10.880 in all those places.

00:55:12.040 Ben, that's been very informative.

00:55:13.060 Thank you so much for joining us today.

00:55:14.680 Thanks, Alan.

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00:56:28.040 Now my guest, Sarah Gonzalez joins us now.

00:56:30.980 Sarah, thank you for joining us.

00:56:32.540 Yeah, thank you so much for having me.

00:56:34.360 It's a pleasure. 1.00

00:56:35.060 I know you're on the ground down there in the hotbed of Mohammedanism taking over the US. 1.00

00:56:40.540 I keep saying on this show, they're going to start with Texas first, because if they 1.00

00:56:43.820 manage to take Texas, they can take anywhere.

00:56:46.180 How's it feeling and looking down there to you right now?

00:56:48.800 Yeah, I mean, you're absolutely right. 1.00

00:56:50.680 And it's actually typical of whether it's, you know, the Muslim invasion or the left. 0.98

00:56:56.440 I think that that's just a commonality is that they think if we can get Texas, like 0.93

00:57:01.360 say with the drag queen story time hours. That was happening here all over the place. And people

00:57:06.540 kept saying that can't happen in Texas. And I really think that it's a common theme. If we can

00:57:10.160 do this in Texas, we can do this anywhere. We're going to show them that we can do it even in a

00:57:14.880 state like Texas. And so that's what's happening with, you know, the Islamic invasion. And I got 1.00

00:57:19.680 to tell you, most days I don't recognize the neighborhood that I grew up in, the neighborhood

00:57:25.960 that I live in now, the grocery store that I frequent, it just feels like I'm in a different

00:57:32.160 country. And, you know, I don't say that to say I don't like people with a different color skin than 0.99

00:57:37.980 me. It just feels, it's creepy, right? It's creepy to be walking around surrounded by people who are

00:57:44.360 covering their faces, who are, you know, are wearing hijabs all around. And it just, it doesn't 1.00

00:57:49.860 feel like the Texas that I was born and raised in, sadly.

00:57:53.820 That's scary to hear because hearing you now, you sound exactly how I sound when I go back to

00:57:58.440 London. You know, I almost lost a job for, in fact, I did lose a board position for

00:58:02.320 championing against drag queen story time for children. And everywhere you go in London,

00:58:07.820 you see hijab here, niqab there. It doesn't feel like London anymore. I'm sad to hear that Texas 0.99

00:58:12.620 is becoming the same. What can you guys do to learn from the lessons that we've done,

00:58:16.020 the mistakes we've made that's what's so frustrating honestly is that um i and that's what i say it all

00:58:22.340 the time i feel like a broken record i'm like the uk has delivered a blueprint it's right in front

00:58:28.980 of our faces we see how this ends we see the conclusion of this so why are we just allowing

00:58:34.900 this to happen and i mean even with you know i um i had a tip one of my followers sent me this

00:58:43.460 muslim exclusive cemetery which in and of itself isn't you know it's not illegal i know everyone's

00:58:48.180 like it's not illegal okay that's fine but on the muslim cemetery's website it says islamic

00:58:53.780 laws govern all matters concerning this cemetery and i said is anyone else concerned about i mean

00:58:59.700 that sounds a little bit uh a little bit scary that they are putting on their website it's not

00:59:04.580 american law but islamic law dictates all matters concerning the cemetery how far are they going to

00:59:10.580 extend this and i had so many people even people who claim to be conservative say well come on

00:59:16.580 sarah it's freedom of religion and i i right and i'm like you guys don't like they don't get it

00:59:23.060 they haven't been able to properly understand it is not about freedom of religion this is a form

00:59:28.900 of governance this is an ideology a pervasive ideology that intends to come here and take over

00:59:35.220 and conquer and so it's just really frustrating because i think it's people like that primarily

00:59:40.420 people who think like that, who are in office, even here in the, you know, the red so far state

00:59:46.160 of Texas. I think it's people like that that allow this to continue to fester because they think,

00:59:52.300 well, we're conservative. We have to believe in all of these freedoms and we can't not grant these

00:59:57.080 people that. And they can't think beyond that. But it's such a, as you know, it's just a much

01:00:03.440 more complex issue than that. But they haven't quite understood it yet. And I fear that it will

01:00:08.960 take some giant, horrible act for them to understand, at which point, I don't know if

01:00:14.620 we can put the genie back in the bottle. Well, I have many issues with people's

01:00:19.180 understanding of freedom of religion, but I'd go on off a tangent if I started on that.

01:00:22.900 But I think this is about equality under the law, is it not? American law should supersede

01:00:26.700 any other law, including Sharia, which is the Islamic law. No place in this country, 1.00

01:00:31.320 in this Christian country, surely should be governed by an Islamic law. Again, look at 1.00

01:00:36.220 what's happening to us in Britain. 85 Sharia courts across the country, more than the rest 1.00

01:00:40.560 of Europe combined, because we've allowed it. People from Qatar and Saudi Arabia, who are 1.00

01:00:45.340 banned from those countries, come to Britain and set up their courts in our country. Does Texas

01:00:49.640 want that? I mean, of course not. Of course not. When you look at the overwhelming majority of

01:00:56.420 Texas, of course they are, they would consider themselves conservative, they would consider

01:00:59.980 themselves Republican. The only problem is that a lot of Texans have been asleep at the wheel when

01:01:04.860 it comes to our elections. And that's what is so important. You know, they just had a proposition

01:01:09.620 on the ballot when we went to go vote in the primary. And the proposition was, do you want

01:01:14.660 to ban Sharia in Texas? And of course, I mean, Republican voters, this was on the Republican

01:01:19.580 ballot, Republican voters, it was like 95, 99 percent. I mean, something crazy where you're

01:01:24.920 like, yeah, of course, everyone who's voting in this primary on this ballot proposition can agree 1.00

01:01:29.920 that we don't want sharia here in texas but you then have to rely on your legislators to of course 0.68

01:01:36.020 understand what their constituents want and make sure that i say that i want texas to be the most 1.00

01:01:41.860 inhospitable place to islam that has ever existed i want them to be so uncomfortable here that they 1.00

01:01:47.040 pack up and they move somewhere else and so we could do that by you know banning halal we could 1.00

01:01:51.940 do that by like we're trying to think outside the box here in the state of texas there are a lot of 0.98

01:01:55.320 grassroots activists that are trying to think outside the box on how can we take these you know

01:02:00.360 they may seem like small measures um but it would essentially tell them they're not invited here and 0.99

01:02:06.480 they would leave and so we're trying to think outside the box and talk about banning halal and 0.99

01:02:11.100 you know um doing something about the financial institutions obviously we should put something on 1.00

01:02:16.600 the books that says we we are banning sharia and then be prepared to enforce that because that's 1.00

01:02:21.960 the other side of that. But unfortunately, I think it just comes down to the fact that we have weak

01:02:26.660 legislation. We have weak legislators and they're too scared of being called mean names because we

01:02:31.660 have at least two. We have two Democrats in the Texas state house that are foreign born who come

01:02:38.020 from one comes from Pakistan. I can't remember where the other one comes from, but they're both

01:02:42.080 Muslim majority countries. And they, you know, they swore in on the Koran. And I think that

01:02:48.120 they're too scared of being called a mean name. And so you have a bunch of weak Republicans here

01:02:53.440 in the state that aren't effectively pushing forth what their constituents have put them

01:02:59.560 in office to do. And Texans, by and large, especially in primaries, there's only a small

01:03:05.000 percentage of them that show up to vote. So I don't know what it's going to take for Texans to

01:03:09.260 go, hey, this representative is not representing what I want. Maybe I should show up the next time

01:03:14.200 around. And I think that's a good idea, creating a hostile environment. It doesn't mean treating

01:03:18.540 other people worse. Actually, it just means treating them the same. They have exceptions

01:03:21.920 in the laws. I don't know about the Texan law, but I know in Britain, we've banned non-stun 0.99

01:03:26.980 slaughter. We think it's cruel. But there's an exception. If you're Mohammedan, you can do

01:03:31.260 kosher. Why do we make these exceptions? Same with banking. Our banking system has a certain 0.99

01:03:37.040 amount of interest on paying back loans. It's different for the Mohammedans for some reason. 1.00

01:03:41.000 get rid of these exemptions. They shouldn't have special treatment in our country, in our 0.96

01:03:44.600 Christian countries. But you pointed out another thing, the niqab and the hijab, 0.96

01:03:49.360 like banning full facial coverings and things like that. Again, in a Western country, 0.82

01:03:53.260 perfectly reasonable. Nobody should be walking into a bank with nothing but their eyes showing.

01:03:56.920 That should be common sense. But obviously, there's this case of the recent, the health

01:04:01.560 worker, I forget her name, you can remind me, who pointed out that she doesn't want to see these

01:04:05.760 around her city. She doesn't want to see headscarves and hijabs and niqabs. And she's been 1.00

01:04:10.160 persecuted for it yeah you're absolutely right Dasha Kilpatrick is is her name and I think to

01:04:17.420 me she's a hero because it's going to take so many more of us being like her to to to show these

01:04:25.260 people that we don't want them here and it's nothing personal like you said it's nothing

01:04:28.800 personal I have I have nothing personal against any of these people some of them may even be

01:04:33.760 well-meaning people but if they subscribe to an ideology that tells them that they should be

01:04:39.360 committing terror against non-believers that tells them that they should be, you know, you're going to

01:04:43.480 submit or you're going to die, basically, when it comes to this religion, this ideology, this form

01:04:49.460 of governance, that's a completely different story. And so I feel terrible for her that she, you know,

01:04:55.320 she lost her livelihood because she decided that she had had enough and she went up to these women

01:05:00.540 who had their head coverings on and she just said, you're not welcome here. And I honestly, really,

01:05:06.360 truly i do think that it is going to take much more of that for it to get better here in the

01:05:11.080 state of texas um i shudder to think of what it's going to take in places like you know minnesota

01:05:16.920 or new york and places that they i mean they're doing the call to prayer five times a day on

01:05:22.440 loudspeakers where everyone can hear so same up here in michigan yeah yeah it's just like i i

01:05:28.120 i shudder to think what what is it going to take for americans to take their country back for

01:05:32.680 christians to take their country back when you get to that point right so um i feel horrible for her

01:05:38.920 i do hope that this is a at least what happened it got so viral that maybe we can use this as

01:05:44.520 a catalyst to have this national conversation uh about whether or not she was justified me

01:05:49.880 personally i think she was of course completely justified in what she had to say well i first

01:05:56.040 heard about this through our mutual friend brianna morello but and i see what you're doing and what

01:06:00.280 she is doing i'm like this is great but honestly sarah where are the men yeah yeah um i ask myself

01:06:06.840 that quite frequently actually when i show up to you know uh any of these these things that i'm

01:06:13.080 doing whether i'm going undercover or whether i'm you know showing up to speak out against

01:06:18.440 all of these people i notice i'm looking around i'm like why am i a five four petite female

01:06:24.200 the only one that's bold enough to come here and show up and say what needs to be said

01:06:28.760 Um, it's a really great question. I don't know whether I can, I go back and forth with this and I would love to hear your take on this. I go back and forth because sometimes I wonder, is it the feminization of men, um, that has caused them to just be so, you know, passive about this or is it the masculine, uh, the masculinity of women who then they have these controlling, you know, wives and they say, don't you dare, you're not going to go out there and you're not going to do this.

01:06:58.220 And then they just listen to them. I can't even it's like the chicken or the egg. I don't even know which one came first.

01:07:03.440 But there obviously is a very big problem with men, not just around the state, but around the entire country who just seem to be very passive, very fine with everything happening around them.

01:07:15.640 And there's this like live and let live, you know, policy, which we can say all we want.

01:07:22.100 Well, we just want to mind our own business. We just want to go to work. We want to take care of our families.

01:07:25.460 we want to come home and we don't want to be messed with. The problem is you're not dealing

01:07:29.300 with an opposition that feels the same way. You're very much dealing with an opposition when it comes

01:07:34.940 to the Islamic invasion that does very much want to be in your business, that does very much want 0.94

01:07:40.380 to make sure that you submit to Allah or face the consequences. So it's like the men in this 0.99

01:07:45.920 state and in this country don't understand by and large what they're actually up against and what

01:07:50.860 they're facing. And I find it to be very sad. I was actually reading, just as an aside, I don't

01:07:56.280 mean to monologue on your show, but just to give a shout out to a book that I'm reading that kind

01:08:02.320 of talks about men, the passage of men just becoming more and more just fine, sitting around,

01:08:10.840 not doing anything, not having motivation, not having any drive. And it's been fascinating to

01:08:15.760 read. It's called Boys Adrift. And it talks about the feminization of schooling that has led to

01:08:21.300 these males that just, you know, they don't like school and they withdraw and then they decide

01:08:25.480 that they don't like anything because the way that we are teaching them, even when they're just

01:08:29.180 very young, like kindergarten, is actually more geared towards females. And so we haven't done

01:08:35.740 our males in this country any favors. And maybe perhaps that also is showing in adulthood as

01:08:42.300 well. They just become withdrawn and they don't care and they don't want to do anything. But

01:08:45.820 certainly there is a problem with the men not wanting to come out here and take charge and

01:08:51.120 try to solve the problem themselves, certainly not with violence. But, you know, I think there's

01:08:56.080 obviously a time and a place for them to do that and protect their women and children.

01:09:00.400 Absolutely. It's their main role. And it's frustrating to watch places get taken over

01:09:04.220 by an invading force who is strong, who are masculine. You know, the reason people are

01:09:09.180 converting to islam is because it shows itself as a strong masculine force whereas christianity 1.00

01:09:14.020 in the west has become effeminate infantilized and just weak and pathetic we need to stand up 0.98

01:09:18.980 you know when i see a video of you on a doorstep challenging h1b visa scammers and you know who 0.99

01:09:25.020 knows what that guy could have turned around and said or done to you and then the neighbor saying

01:09:28.540 yeah i've seen dodgy stuff but not willing to speak to you properly and telling you to go away

01:09:32.240 who knows what could happen to you you shouldn't be there by yourself the man should already be

01:09:36.260 there yeah yeah i know you're right um and i i have considered that many times and i think to

01:09:42.780 myself you know i i have children at home too i can't leave them without a mom i can't you know

01:09:47.260 their mom can't be in the hospital their mom can't be thrown in jail for some ridiculous thing that i

01:09:52.380 might i could be accused of by any of these crazy people um but for me personally i try to i try to

01:09:58.660 think of it like this the men need to get involved obviously but until they do i have to be able to

01:10:04.200 look my children in the eye when they grow up and tell them, I did literally everything that I could

01:10:08.780 to make this country, to preserve this country for you, to preserve the foundations upon which

01:10:13.980 this country was founded, to preserve all of these things. I did everything I could. And now I hope,

01:10:18.780 my hope is that it's a good, it's a good story. It has a happy ending. My hope is that I tell them

01:10:23.720 that and I say, see, look what we preserved for you. My hope is that I understand obviously that

01:10:29.720 it could end poorly. But either way, I'm going to look them in the eye and I'm going to say,

01:10:35.320 I fought every ounce in me, fought as hard as I could. I worked sleepless nights. I worked extra

01:10:43.260 hours. I did things for free just to preserve this country for you. And I wish that more men

01:10:50.120 would have the same mentality. So my message is to the Christian pastors, really, is to lead your

01:10:54.780 men is to stand up and be there at the forefront. You know, when the Mohammedan mayor of Dearborn 0.74

01:10:59.520 stood up and said, we will celebrate when the Christian pastor leaves this place, we drove down

01:11:04.160 to the council meeting. The next week, two of the young men from my congregation, Ryan Wozniak and

01:11:08.920 Noah Mullins, gave floor speeches against it. They wanted to see him face to face, like this is what

01:11:13.460 the men should be doing, the Christian men should be doing. But I pointed out you were the one on 1.00

01:11:17.560 the ground, you're filling the void. Tell me about this H-1B visa scam that you've uncovered and why 0.62

01:11:22.580 it's so prevalent oh it is um man i didn't realize when we started getting involved in this that i

01:11:28.400 was opening pandora's box um but what is actually happening in this country i mean you know we talk

01:11:34.300 about the medicare fraud and you know all of these different types of fraud that are happening in this

01:11:39.400 country and it's all bad uh whether it be snap fraud um billions of dollars of taxpayer money

01:11:45.140 is being wasted didn't have to be that way but there's another type of fraud i think um that

01:11:50.400 most people are not talking about enough. We talk about illegal immigration. We don't talk about

01:11:54.940 legal immigration a lot. And everyone says, oh, no, no, no. We love legal immigration. We just

01:12:00.420 don't like the illegal immigration. Because they want to be nice. Right. And the problem with that 1.00

01:12:05.100 is that our high trust society, our, you know, our good graces have been taken advantage of in

01:12:14.360 large scale, particularly here in the state of Texas, where H-1B visa fraud is completely rampant.

01:12:20.820 So for those of your viewers who may not know, H-1B visas were created specifically for just

01:12:28.620 very unique, highly skilled or a highly unique skill set that you've searched high and low

01:12:36.920 and you couldn't find any American worker to fulfill this one position. Therefore,

01:12:41.320 you just have to go overseas to get it. It shouldn't have been written the way that it was

01:12:47.000 because it's obviously severely being taken advantage of. But now what's happening is that

01:12:52.020 you have a lot of people who have learned from foreign countries how to game the system.

01:12:56.340 And so, by the way, this isn't a race thing. This is just a statistical thing. Most of these visas

01:13:01.820 are being sought out by people who are coming from India. A lot of them are coming from the

01:13:08.040 region that's called Hyderabad, Andhra Pradesh. And so these people have learned how to game the

01:13:13.700 system. They are applying for jobs that don't exist. They're either doing that or they're

01:13:21.040 bringing in people. They're putting up consultancy firms here in the state of Texas.

01:13:25.120 They're bringing in people under these consultancy firms. They're putting them at perhaps a Verizon

01:13:30.880 or a JP Morgan in some IT job that, of course, we have qualified Americans for. They're just 0.98

01:13:35.860 bypassing those Americans to undercut the American worker. And then they're skimming off the top of 0.99

01:13:40.740 their salary and they're telling these people, we're going to bring you in from India, but we're

01:13:44.040 going to take 30 percent of your salary, which is highly illegal. But there's no mechanism that the

01:13:49.720 United States has that they can use to actually look to see if that's happening unless they take

01:13:53.880 it on a case by case basis and do a formal investigation. So what we're finding when we're

01:13:58.340 knocking on doors is, oh, there's a company that's supposed to have 27 H-1B workers all

01:14:03.600 officing out of this home that's strange nobody wants to answer questions we're also finding you

01:14:09.380 know a catering service manager you couldn't find a single american to do a catering manager job

01:14:15.200 you know we're finding empty offices we're finding ghost offices we're finding you were showing up on

01:14:20.100 people's doorsteps and they're getting very angry that we're asking questions we're telling them

01:14:24.360 there is one mechanism that the united states gives us members of the public uh an opportunity

01:14:29.700 to go find out, have some sort of transparency with this H-1B visa program, and that are the

01:14:35.020 public access files. And so we're going out and we're saying, hey, here's the Department of Labor

01:14:39.140 form. We are a member of the public. We're requesting your public access files. And these

01:14:43.360 people don't have them, can't provide them, can't answer questions, get very defensive. And it

01:14:47.800 becomes very obvious when you start looking into this, the broken phone numbers, the broken website

01:14:52.420 links, the broken email addresses. It becomes very, very obvious very quickly that they've

01:14:59.540 learned how to game the system. And unfortunately, the American worker is the one who's had to suffer

01:15:04.480 in all of that, particularly in the IT industry. I mean, imagine for a second, imagine we have

01:15:10.420 Silicon Valley, right? Like we've produced Mark Zuckerberg and Bill Gates, which say what you will

01:15:17.120 about his personal life. He was on the Epstein list and it was not a good thing. But look at what

01:15:22.160 he's developed, right? Like we have all of these people who have developed all of this innovative

01:15:27.200 of technology and you're telling me we can't find a single software professional, a software

01:15:32.180 developer that can fill these jobs?

01:15:34.280 I mean, it's just a preposterous thing to believe.

01:15:37.080 And yet our government has allowed this to happen.

01:15:39.960 And when you start looking at it, it's like an onion.

01:15:42.560 You just keep peeling back layer upon layer upon layer and it all it all stinks.

01:15:47.040 So now I have like my fifth job that I'm doing for free, just just trying to uncover all

01:15:53.360 of the fraud and get it to our officials so they can do something about it.

01:15:57.020 Because every job that is stolen should have gone to an American worker.

01:16:01.480 And this scam is massive. 0.92

01:16:03.160 So for people that don't know, three quarters of all H-1B visas into this country are from India. 0.95

01:16:09.380 India does not have that many high-skilled individuals, for goodness sake.

01:16:12.840 So what is happening?

01:16:14.000 How are the officials rubber stamping this?

01:16:15.940 Surely they can see, as you say, a catering provider or someone.

01:16:19.100 Surely they can see, what, you couldn't find any visa?

01:16:21.500 Do they ever ask?

01:16:22.440 Is there a process to check whether people have tried to hire an American before they hire an Indian? 0.90

01:16:27.020 Yeah, I mean, and that therein lies the problem is that there is supposed to be a way for them to check. But the problem is that what it's reduced to is simply a Microsoft Word document that the person who owns the business, the legit or non legit business can just type up, you know, and say, this is what we posted. And this is when we posted it. Here is the job and here is the wage.

01:16:52.020 We pinky promise that we are going to pay this person the wage that we are writing on this document that we pay.

01:16:58.340 And so that's all that they have to provide.

01:17:00.500 And the Department of Labor and USCIS, unfortunately, I think with every federal bureaucracy, has a bunch of paper pushers who are going through trying to clock in and clock out.

01:17:10.140 And they're not interested in going to Google and looking up the website and trying the phone number and seeing if the phone number works.

01:17:15.860 They're not interested in going and doing a, you know, a search to see what the building looks like. If the address even exists, they're just there to put in their hours and go home. That like that's the only thing that I can believe that is like the innocent, benign explanation for what's happening, because the other explanation is would be far more sinister.

01:17:35.280 and that would be that they've got people embedded in USCIS or the Department of Labor

01:17:40.580 who are participating in this. And that I can't bring myself to believe.

01:17:45.700 So I think there are liberals that hate your country and think that you must have diversity

01:17:49.760 because it's your strength and multiculturalism is how you win. Flood the country with Indians. 1.00

01:17:53.980 Like what's happened in Britain, like what's happened in Canada. And the scariest part about 1.00

01:17:57.940 all of that is that 97% of Indians have never left India. So there are plenty more to come. 1.00

01:18:02.180 Yeah, I know. You're absolutely right. And I just keep thinking to myself, if we're supposed to believe that this is because they're the only ones who are qualified, I struggle to understand, I struggle to comprehend why they haven't just built up India into its own amazing tech industry or whatever.

01:18:21.280 they could just be benefiting their own country by staying there and providing them all of these

01:18:27.580 amazing things that they can do. It just strikes me as odd that instead of doing that, they just

01:18:33.560 come here and take up our resources. Because, I mean, you think about every time they come here,

01:18:38.280 every single person who comes here to take an American job is also taking an American home.

01:18:42.520 They're also taking up American resources every time they come, which is making things more 0.97

01:18:46.420 expensive for us. So it affects every facet of our lives that I don't think, you know, day in and day

01:18:52.440 out, people don't realize. Like I said before, they think about illegal immigration. They don't

01:18:57.380 think about the ways in which legal immigration affect their everyday lives. But I got to tell

01:19:02.320 you, it is vast. It is expansive. And like you said, there's many more to come, unfortunately,

01:19:10.060 unless we get a handle on this now. Well, especially, and again, it's not about race,

01:19:14.120 especially if they don't share your culture and your faith and your language that's important

01:19:18.520 I wanted to thank you you pointed out the rape gang inquiry report that came out of Britain last

01:19:23.600 week such a serious report that hasn't been covered by most of the mainstream media that

01:19:28.260 our country Britain is made up of maybe only 2.5 percent of the population is from Pakistan 0.81

01:19:33.080 but over 75 maybe 85 maybe even 95 of the child sexual abuse is from Pakistani Mohammedan men 0.99

01:19:40.560 And so a whole demographic of people that don't share our way of life, don't share our values, don't share our culture, don't share our faith, mostly don't share our language have come over and raped our young girls. And this is how important it is to control and protect your borders. 0.98

01:19:53.540 Yeah, I understand it is a very difficult subject matter for people to delve into. I understand that it's difficult to talk about. I think it's difficult for people to really wrap their head around how evil people could be, not just the Muslim gangs who did unspeakable things to young girls, but also the government, right?

01:20:16.660 All of these different government agencies who were just covering it up, who were running cover for these men, they knew what they were doing. They were calling the children prostitutes. I mean, the unspeakable level of evil that that requires is really hard, I think, for people to wrap their heads around. And so instead, I think they're like, you know, like an ostrich. They just want to stick their heads in the sand. 0.91

01:20:36.120 But I have been I've had night. I mean, it stays with me. You know, it's a sick feeling. And so I warned my audience. I said, listen, I get it. But just just know you won't be able to unread it. It's going to stick with you. But maybe it should. I think it should because you can't forget that this happened to these young girls.

01:20:57.540 You can't forget the levels of government that continued to hide it and prolong it and even run cover for these guys.

01:21:06.360 So it's really, really tragic that this happened.

01:21:09.580 I think people should be – I don't want to get you in trouble.

01:21:12.680 So I'll just say I think a kind punishment would be life in prison.

01:21:19.160 I personally would advocate for far more than that.

01:21:22.520 But there are many people – 0.98

01:21:23.040 Oh, they all need hanging, Sarah. 1.00

01:21:24.120 Every single one of them needs hanging. 1.00

01:21:25.660 Yes, exactly right. 0.88

01:21:26.960 um well good you said you said it not me i completely agree public very public so that

01:21:33.680 everyone gets put on notice that the uk will never tolerate that again um so it's just it's

01:21:39.760 mind-blowing to me that the people in my country and the people in this country where you live now

01:21:44.560 you're looking at that right now and i'm looking at that right now and i'm looking around us going

01:21:50.640 why can't you guys see this is what this is part of their culture this is what they do

01:21:55.840 You can't just bring a bunch of them in in mass and expect them to be like, I just want to

01:22:01.200 assimilate to you. What have you done to convince them to do that? Absolutely nothing. You've just

01:22:06.320 given them everything on a platter to come in exactly as they are. So why would they change?

01:22:11.720 It's just frustrating to see this happening and to see America just follow the UK's lead and think

01:22:18.340 that we're going to have different results. Of course we're not. Absolutely. It comes down to

01:22:22.660 love. We have to love our own before we can love the other. And to love the other doesn't mean to

01:22:26.540 import them en masse to take over. Now, you can import a small number. That means assimilation

01:22:31.800 and integration can work. But if you import a large number, you become them, especially if 1.00

01:22:36.160 you're weak in your own culture. We need to be stronger. We need to have firm borders. We need

01:22:39.920 men to stand up and be men and to get out there and fight back. And sometimes that does mean

01:22:44.720 literally fighting back to prevent our daughters from being raped. And I know you've got your show

01:22:49.560 to get on. So I'll let you go. But I want to say thank you for calling this out. Thank you for

01:22:53.000 supporting us in Britain because we need all the help we can get Sarah. Sarah Gonzalez, where can

01:22:57.120 people find you? Yeah, thank you so much. I appreciate it. They can find me all over social

01:23:01.640 media on X, on Instagram, on Facebook. It's the same handle at Sarah Gonzalez TX. And then they

01:23:06.860 can follow my show at YouTube at Sarah Gonzalez unfiltered. And I appreciate you. I appreciate

01:23:12.480 all of your great work. It's going to take all of us standing up and speaking truth in order to

01:23:18.300 course correct in this country so i appreciate you hey hey god bless you thank you very much

01:23:22.940 thank you now let's take a look at some of your comments we're looking at the comments from the

01:23:27.660 episode with frank wright and chase geyser by the way thank you for commenting always appreciate

01:23:33.100 your engagement matt our man said in my opinion the only reparations needed to be paid is by the

01:23:39.820 rothschild coffers to all the christians they've sought to eliminate well indeed yes going all the

01:23:45.820 all the way back to the Bolsheviks and prior to that even. X Winger says he is 100% correct on 0.98

01:23:51.800 the petrodollar and this absolute necessity, oh sorry, necessary to maintain the empire and

01:23:57.360 influence the US has. Mayen said thank you father for another wonderful message. Joe Farrell said

01:24:05.200 that most people mistake equality for things like meritocracy, fairness and justice before the law.

01:24:12.000 They are totally different things. It's a fair point. Most people don't know what they mean when

01:24:15.640 they say equality sometimes actually i think most people mean egalitarianism but people fight for

01:24:21.020 something that they believe to be good without even considering if it is good then we have that

01:24:24.880 quite a lot we have that with equality with diversity we have that with the opposition to

01:24:29.940 division and people just assume these things are either good or bad without considering well what's

01:24:36.280 the impact of these things and of course at the end of the day they are just words it's how we

01:24:40.220 implement them that matters equality is not something to strive towards equality is unattainable

01:24:44.740 in this realm and well in the next two actually and so I don't think equality is what we're

01:24:49.980 looking for but meritocracy and fairness and justice tend to be good things that we should

01:24:54.480 strive towards at least justice is something we are commanded to strive towards fairness is part

01:25:00.960 of our moral moral compass meritocracy is one of those least worst options right enable people to

01:25:06.820 better themselves if they choose but really and truly when people are born into a society where

01:25:11.040 they know their place. Things are better than a constantly, upwardly mobile middle class.

01:25:20.040 NonW1TK said, I look forward to every appearance of Father Calvin. He is my favorite person of

01:25:24.540 faith, a real leader. Oh, thank you. That's very kind. Love it. Roddy said, great stuff,

01:25:29.800 Father Calvin. You always cut through the bull dust. All the best. I try. I try, man. There's

01:25:34.240 so much bull dust everywhere, right? So we have to cut through it because people just,

01:25:37.740 oh they just want to spread the dust everywhere. Lou Butcher said didn't expect to hear communal

01:25:43.940 socialism from Calvin Robinson so I'm going to bow out. I would never promote socialism so if

01:25:50.500 you believe that's what I said you probably misheard me and or misunderstood me but if you

01:25:54.540 are so capricious to the point that you can only listen to things you already agree with

01:25:57.480 this is probably not the place for you anyway. Super Cladding said I love your wisdom Calvin.

01:26:02.700 thank you super cladding i don't know if i'm wise i strive to be wise one day but uh most of the

01:26:08.620 things that you consider me wise on are things that i'm just regurgitating other people on it's

01:26:12.820 the church fathers right it's it's the stoics it's people throughout history that we learn from

01:26:17.700 and uh we should we should mirror what they taught i don't think any of us are particularly wise to

01:26:23.440 be honest uh let's have a look robo klein said i don't know where you've been in my algorithm but

01:26:30.520 I'm glad I finally got to see you again thank you that's a good reminder so don't just subscribe

01:26:34.660 also hit the bell the notification button and then any time a video goes up you'll be notified

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01:26:45.880 and you'll get you've got a little alert when we put videos up Thomas Jorge said let all former

01:26:53.780 slave owners pay all former slaves oh they're all dead I mean it's a fair point who is going to pay

01:26:59.660 whom is the question i always ask when it comes to reparations i did a debate on this at the

01:27:03.620 cambridge union and they got very riled up about it but there's no one alive today who was part of

01:27:07.460 the chattel slavery and there's no one alive today who was a slave owner in the chattel sense

01:27:11.980 uh transatlantic trade sense and so it makes no sense uh x winger we've had him not that you can't

01:27:19.780 comment more than once but i want to be equitable and fair dc3 rejuvation gb said biggest problem

01:27:29.420 Usury, who created usury, who we knows, we do knows indeed. Usury is a bad thing. It is

01:27:35.460 objectively bad, objectively evil. It is proscribed in the Bible, and so we should avoid usury at all

01:27:40.660 costs, but there are certain demographics that always want to push usury upon us. I believe 1.00

01:27:45.080 the President of the United States wanted to cut interest rates, sorry, interest on credit cards

01:27:49.360 down to 10%, which makes sense. I think 30% interest is incredibly criminal, and that was

01:27:54.160 one of his pledges that he hasn't followed through with, unfortunately. We can only assume that that's

01:27:58.060 to do with people that back him. Louise said tolerate to put up with. What are you putting

01:28:04.280 up with? Why did? Why do people want more tolerance? Why do they want us to put up with

01:28:07.900 their nonsense? Stop the nonsense. Penn VVS said weak ass birth rate. It is a weak ass 0.99

01:28:15.420 birth rate. We need better birth rates. If you want to survive as a people, you've got 0.99

01:28:18.480 have more babies simple as steven k-o-r-o-s-i said consent of the governed is still an issue

01:28:28.580 interesting it is an issue consent there's a slight differentiation in cultures so in in britain

01:28:36.360 our police forces well they're not even police forces but our police police with consent over

01:28:42.480 here is more like they they implement the law which is a slight different understanding uh

01:28:48.420 one is one is passive one is positive but or one is formed in consent and the other is positive

01:28:54.380 action but uh all government should be at least in the west be governing governing with consent

01:29:00.040 because they are elected representatives they are not monarchs at least not anymore mk said father

01:29:06.960 calvin is legit i try to be legit thank you mk appreciate you brother sarah vincent said love

01:29:11.920 you all love you too sarah thank you colette yet another jam-packed and very informative show

01:29:17.800 fantastic guests awesome job guys god bless yeah god bless to you colette oh interesting

01:29:24.500 nothing wrong with islam said pen you all got rid of death penalties and neutered yourselves usa too 0.69

01:29:31.840 of course everything will look weak in comparison to more unified fronts yes well no one's saying 0.84

01:29:38.980 islam isn't strong in terms of having the death penalty and not being neutered in the same way

01:29:43.260 that christianity is is weak in the west at the moment but that's not to say it's there's nothing 0.85

01:29:46.880 wrong with it. There is plenty wrong with Islam. Pedophilia is a good example. War mongering is a 1.00

01:29:51.720 good example. Enslaving is a good example. There's plenty of things that Islam supports and promotes 1.00

01:29:58.260 in the Quran and the Hadith that is wrong. It is not good. Rosalyn said, had they kept the promise 1.00

01:30:05.960 of the 40 acres and the mule, we wouldn't be having the discussion now in the US. The way I

01:30:11.460 is, if you want 40 acres and a mule, buy it. Like, work hard and get it. People who expect

01:30:17.400 handouts should get absolutely nothing. In fact, I would get rid of them. Anyone that

01:30:20.840 wants a handout should go and get a handout somewhere else. Someone else replied, that

01:30:25.360 wasn't a promise. Anyone who could keep it made it. Well, have you looked into the performance

01:30:31.680 of ex-slaves who signed up for the Homestead Act? It makes interesting reading. I haven't.

01:30:36.020 i'll have to look into that but yeah i mean people being dependent upon a welfare state

01:30:43.220 just means people being dependent upon other people not necessarily even the state it's like

01:30:46.340 someone's paying that money it's coming from somewhere which means you and i right it's our

01:30:50.340 taxpayers money and so no no one no one is no one is owed my money we pay taxes for the for the well

01:30:57.080 it should be for the bare minimum of you know keeping the roads uh functioning and keeping the

01:31:00.660 borders secure, keep feeding our prisoners, etc. But we shouldn't be paying taxes so that

01:31:06.720 money that we earn goes to people that don't bother earning. No, no way.

01:31:11.580 Mazza said, God bless you both gents. God bless you, Mazza. Appreciate it. Thank you for the

01:31:16.680 comments. Love those, especially the challenging ones. And thank you for the kind comments too.

01:31:22.700 Keep them coming and we'll read some more out on next week's episode. Let's close with today's

01:31:27.420 collect. In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, Amen. O God, the

01:31:33.860 protector of all that trust in thee, without whom nothing is strong, nothing is holy, increase and

01:31:40.380 multiply upon us thy mercy, that thou being our ruler and guide, we may so pass through things

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The NXR Podcast - July 02, 2026

The Next Crusade - ＂Feminism Killed More People Than Hitler, Stalin & Mao COMBINED＂ - Fr. Calvin Robinson

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