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00:00:00.160 I never wanted to write a book called The Silent Jihad.

00:00:05.200 I was called to be a parish priest, celebrate the sacraments, preach the gospel, marry couples,

00:00:10.960 baptise children, comfort the dying and to help build up the body of Christ in a quiet corner of

00:00:17.360 England. I'm still called to those things but Christendom is under attack and the body of

00:00:23.520 Christ is bleeding. The silent jihad exposes how Islam's advance in Britain and the West 1.00

00:00:30.280 is carried not only by terrorism but by grooming gangs, Sharia councils, demographic change 0.98

00:00:37.940 and the cowardice of leaders who refuse to name the threat. It is a priest's warning that unless 0.68

00:00:44.760 we recover a bold unapologetic Christian faith at our borders, in our laws and in our pulpits 0.96

00:00:52.720 the nations once shaped by the cross 0.93

00:00:55.380 will be quietly remained in the image of Islam.

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00:01:22.720 Hello and welcome to the next crusade with me, Father Calvin Robinson, only here on NXR

00:01:36.800 Studios. That's the new Christian right. We've got a great show coming up today. Of course, 1.00

00:01:41.560 this is the show where we address current events from a Christian perspective and look at the 0.82

00:01:45.940 headlines the rest of the legacy media does not want to touch with a 10-foot barge pole.

00:01:49.480 we've got jenna ellis coming on to talk about men and women's roles the differences between the two

00:01:55.220 the importance of the family unit and marriage holy matrimony freedom of religion and interracial

00:02:02.660 marriages going up against dale partridge's stance there that'll be interesting and then

00:02:07.100 we've got nicholas holster coming on to talk to us about vaccines ticks viruses biochemical weapons

00:02:13.760 and bioterrorism and what the elite are up to what trickery they're trying to play this time

00:02:19.660 around we'll talk about covid and we'll talk about the new uh threats facing us in society too

00:02:25.360 now we've got some great guests coming up in the show today let's go and hear what they've got to

00:02:30.460 say before we do let's say a prayer in the name of the father and of the son and of holy spirit

00:02:35.200 amen our father who art in heaven hallowed be thy name thy kingdom come thy will be done on earth

00:02:41.420 as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive

00:02:47.220 those who trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. Amen.

00:02:52.640 In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit. Amen.

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00:04:30.700 Ellis, who I've been having an ongoing conversation with about freedom of religion, about the faith

00:04:36.860 in this country, mostly on your show. And Jenna, you've agreed to come on mine and have the

00:04:41.160 conversation here too. Thank you for that. Thank you for giving us the time. How are you?

00:04:44.540 Yeah, thank you so much. It's great to see you and to continue having this conversation because

00:04:48.880 it's so important, especially as we're celebrating America's 250, to understand

00:04:53.260 what religious freedom means and where we're going in this great nation.

00:04:57.520 Well, I've done some research onto this, because I tend to think that the terms and the words have been changed over time. And AI tends to agree with me. So I ask the question of freedom of religion, has it changed from how we use it now to how the founding fathers would have used it? And Grok tells me absolutely it has, that now freedom of religion tends to mean freedom of belief, to have any set of beliefs, to believe in anything, to have an idea that you are believing in something.

00:05:24.360 Whereas in the late 18th century, it would have been that there's no established church, many states would have had established churches, that there's toleration and free exercise for Christians with varying extensions to others, so Jews and Catholics, but mostly to Protestants, emphasis on protecting opinions and conscience from coercion.

00:05:46.960 so it's quite clear that freedom of religion back in the founding fathers day was you have the

00:05:51.820 freedom to be a christian however you see fit and no one can coerce you to be a christian and no one

00:05:55.540 can coerce you to their sect or denomination or their flavor or tradition of christianity

00:06:00.320 it's not actually about freedom to believe in anything and anyone in any way shape or form so

00:06:06.080 we've changed there in modernity and there is a question coming honestly but i also looked at the

00:06:10.260 word religion and the word religion has changed too because it now it just means again a belief

00:06:14.460 in anything the word religion in the founding fathers era would have meant a system of faith

00:06:19.720 or worship centered on god that's quite clear so the the default option of the founding fathers

00:06:25.160 would have been belief in the christian god and freedom to worship the christian god however you

00:06:29.140 see fit we've changed haven't we yes absolutely and i and i completely agree with your assessment

00:06:34.600 and it's so important to understand these terms how the founders used them and would have

00:06:40.460 understood them. That's what originalism dictates, that we don't just have this evolving fluid

00:06:47.600 constitution and set of principles and values also that change and flow with the changing

00:06:53.860 nature of society. Because as we've increasingly become secular pluralist, which basically means

00:06:59.580 that anyone's belief, regardless of how true or logical or historical it might be, is given just

00:07:07.400 as much validity and weight in society as someone else's. That's not what the founders understood

00:07:11.920 freedom of religion to mean. It's also not what they understood the separation of church and state

00:07:17.880 to mean, which by the way, is not in the constitution, as you know, that came from a

00:07:22.080 letter to the Danbury church from Thomas Jefferson, who was basically describing the three institutions

00:07:28.460 that God ordained, the church government, the family government, and the civil government. And

00:07:32.600 they have different jurisdictions and different areas of legitimacy and powers, limited powers

00:07:38.980 that are dictated by God, our creator and natural law. And Jefferson, of course, was the primary

00:07:44.240 author of the Declaration of Independence, which referred to the laws of nature and if nature is

00:07:49.140 God. And so when he talked about the separation of church and state, it wasn't that religion

00:07:53.480 can't or shouldn't influence civil government. It's that there is a different jurisdiction.

00:07:58.460 And so when I go to my church and I'm under my pastor's authority for church discipline, for doctrine, for proof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, right, like the New Testament talks about, that's not what the civil government is providing me, nor can the church in exercising church discipline throw me in jail, right?

00:08:17.260 They can't issue me a traffic summons.

00:08:19.760 They don't have the jurisdiction that the civil government does to maintain a well-ordered society.

00:08:24.920 So we're talking about separate jurisdictions, but both of those jurisdictions are under divine law authority. And that's what I talk about in my book 10 years ago that I wrote the legal basis for a moral constitution.

00:08:38.540 The Constitution isn't and wasn't just derived out of a secular humanist framework or a religious pluralism, which was giving dignity and affirmation to any set of beliefs.

00:08:50.200 It's that the Christian worldview, the God of the Bible, was recognized specifically and explicitly as the divine lawgiver by which our civil government jurisdiction and its laws must have fidelity to, adhere to, and any legislation, any executive order, any governmental action must be consistent with that.

00:09:11.200 And that actually flows exactly with what Jefferson was talking about with separation of church and state.

00:09:17.280 But as you mentioned, Calvin, that term and those different terminologies have changed over the course of American history.

00:09:27.640 And what the Supreme Court has tried to do with all of these different doctrines, phrases, clauses of the Constitution, they've tried to break it down so that it's totally incoherent, much like, unfortunately, some pastors do with the Bible.

00:09:41.020 They'll selectively proof text.

00:09:42.860 they'll pick one word or phrase out of its context and then build an entire doctrine around it that

00:09:49.020 looks nothing like what the framers, the authors originally intended. And that's why we're here in

00:09:55.320 2026, talking about religious freedom in a completely different context than what the

00:10:00.880 founders intended. Absolutely. And I do want to get to the family government theory later,

00:10:06.900 but sticking with civil and church government for a moment, because it's obvious to me that

00:10:11.120 the church should impede on the state in that it should provide a moral compass to the state so

00:10:15.740 that our legislators are legislating in accordance with a Christian moral compass but it's also clear 0.94

00:10:20.820 to me that the state should only impede on religious freedom in terms of protecting the

00:10:27.520 original religious freedom of Christians to worship the one true living God however they see fit

00:10:31.520 whilst also protecting them from incoming ideologies, faiths, cults and religions and one 0.82

00:10:37.000 example is we had another guest on who was talking about the encroaching uh islamic ideology and 0.83

00:10:43.200 people are using this religious freedom to to force uh sharia law and sharia cities and buying 0.99

00:10:49.680 up churches converting them to mosques it should be the case in a christian country with a christian 1.00

00:10:54.600 religious freedom that the state could say actually no we don't want any more islam in 1.00

00:10:58.580 this country and they can't argue on a term of equality of freedom of religion because that's 1.00

00:11:02.040 not what it was about yeah absolutely and that's not what the establishment clause meant and of

00:11:06.460 course, we have to read the First Amendment in context, which is part of the Bill of Rights,

00:11:11.360 which is basically a redundancy protection built into the Constitution as our first 10 amendments

00:11:17.260 to the original articles of the Constitution to say, Congress, just in case you weren't clear,

00:11:24.320 here's what you can't infringe upon, and here's where you don't have civil jurisdiction over.

00:11:29.680 It was never meant to protect the government from any sort of Christian influence or religious influence.

00:11:37.960 But what the Bill of Rights actually was for, and I think that Hamilton was absolutely brilliant in Federalist 84.

00:11:45.700 I'd encourage everyone to read the Federalist Papers because that was by three different lawyers, John Jay, Alexander Hamilton and James Madison,

00:11:53.920 who promoted the ratification of the Constitution in its original drafting, saying, here's our logic

00:12:00.720 and here's our reasoning. And Hamilton, in Federalist 84, actually contended against a

00:12:06.320 Bill of Rights, because he said, historically, when we've had bills of rights, that's been when

00:12:11.280 the citizens turn over every right to the government in exchange for protection. And then

00:12:16.480 they reserve a few rights that they say, okay, our landlord or our king or our tyrant, whoever's over

00:12:22.800 us cannot infringe upon. And Hamilton's argument was, listen, we the people are the ones that give

00:12:28.540 specific limited powers through our consent to our government in order to do the legitimate work

00:12:35.300 of civil government, which is to protect and preserve those rights. But we the people haven't

00:12:39.560 turned over anything to the government. We give them specific limited powers, but we retain all

00:12:45.440 of our rights. And so a bill of rights isn't even necessary. He was actually right. Now, in 2026,

00:12:51.400 I'm very grateful that we have our first amendment. I'm very grateful that we have the protections of due process. I'm very grateful that we have all of those things, but we have to understand them in context.

00:13:01.320 And so when the Supreme Court is talking about, for example, the Establishment Clause or when they're saying or people are advocating for religious freedom in the sense that this that our society must validate and recognize as a legitimate religion and set of belief, a parallel legal system, which is what Sharia law is, that fundamentally violates our U.S. Constitution because that is our highest supreme law of the land.

00:13:27.400 We don't have any other legal systems in our civil government. 0.54

00:13:30.900 Now, you want to talk about the church government or the family government?

00:13:33.500 I mean, I was homeschooled.

00:13:34.540 I had a very different set of rules in my family government system than some of my neighbors

00:13:40.200 or some of my friends who, you know, they might have had a curfew or had to go home

00:13:44.020 at 9 p.m.

00:13:44.680 or I could stay out till 11. 0.54

00:13:46.120 You know, there are different rules in a family government.

00:13:49.820 There are different rules in different church governments.

00:13:52.060 But here in America, in our civil government, we have one highest law of the land.

00:13:57.400 That is the U.S. Constitution, period.

00:13:59.740 We can't allow parallel legal systems that operate, especially when they violate the principles of the Constitution and they go against things like religious freedom, integrity of the individual.

00:14:11.980 They go against and violate and infringe upon some of those rights.

00:14:15.840 And even if they didn't, the whole point is that the civil jurisdiction here in America is operated under the U.S. Constitution, period, no other law.

00:14:25.940 I love that, especially the outline that you talked about how Hamilton was against all of this, because I often criticize the Enlightenment for many, many reasons.

00:14:35.200 But this is one area that, you know, post-Enlightenment America has benefited from that thinking in that in Britain or in England, at least, it was the monarch who was sovereign.

00:14:46.320 In fact, we call them the sovereign still traditionally.

00:14:49.160 So they had all the rights.

00:14:51.300 And after the English Civil War, it became Parliament, which is sovereign now.

00:14:54.460 so in my country it is parliament who are sovereign and america took the english bill of

00:14:59.180 rights and went a step further and now it's the people who are sovereign which i think is so much

00:15:03.620 more important and that's always been the case in this country in america the people are sovereign

00:15:07.720 it's still not the case in my country which is why we don't have things like free speech

00:15:11.120 really and truly because it's only parliament that has any freedom of speech um but that all

00:15:15.540 come that's all post enlightenment and you know we're writing highlighting that it's hamilton that

00:15:19.720 was fighting a lot of this stuff. But it seems to be over time, whether you call it progress or the

00:15:25.340 opposite, I think we have handed a lot of our rights over to the state and expected the state

00:15:30.220 to give us rights rather than us loaning rights over to the state. And this is why it's so

00:15:34.900 important that the First and Second Amendments are there because they are protected and enshrined

00:15:38.940 in that codified constitution, which again, my country does not have. But let's shift on to the

00:15:44.100 One last thing on that point, if I may, this is why it's so important linguistically to be precise, because so often, even here in America, we talk about our First Amendment rights as if it comes and stems from the Constitution or from the government.

00:16:00.280 And you talk about progress. Well, if pro is the opposite of con, what's the opposite of progress? Congress. But but we need to understand that we our rights are not contingent on the First Amendment or our right to keep and bear arms is not contingent on the Second Amendment.

00:16:18.500 The First and Second Amendment and all of our Bill of Rights simply enumerates some of the rights that our founders recognized are most often infringed by government. And so we could repeal the First Amendment or the Second Amendment tomorrow. Would that change the nature of our rights or our ability to exercise them? Or in this country, the obligation of the civil government who we, the people who retain all our rights, only give limited powers to? Not at all.

00:16:47.040 So it's not my First Amendment right. It's my God-given, ordained right that is part of intrinsically my humanity that can't be infringed on, that by design, the civil government through the First Amendment is obligated to preserve and protect. And so we have to be very clear about where our rights actually come from.

00:17:08.680 Yeah, thank you for that clarity. Our rights are deemed from God. They originate from God,

00:17:13.480 and we have the right to free speech because he commands us to proclaim the gospel and to

00:17:18.040 disciple the nations. We have the right to bear arms because he says, if you don't own a sword,

00:17:22.320 sell your cloaks and get one. Have the right to defend yourselves. We have the right to life

00:17:26.820 because he gives us life. These things are from God himself, and yeah, governments can help protect

00:17:31.620 our rights, but the rights do not come from the government, and they should not be able to take

00:17:34.500 our rights away but i do want to talk about the government of the family because you've mentioned

00:17:39.300 you had a slightly different family um growing up and i think that's that's probably the best

00:17:43.600 model actually uh homeschooling or home educating is far superior to state education at this point

00:17:48.640 again people hand their children over to the state and expect the state to raise their children

00:17:53.160 they're giving the rights and responsibilities of parents over to the state

00:17:56.320 indoctrinated from a young age but how does how should a family structure look jenna

00:18:02.820 That is such a great question.

00:18:04.540 And I actually asked this question in a recent piece for the Christian Post that was titled,

00:18:09.140 what is a family, right?

00:18:10.180 Because we've asked, what is a woman?

00:18:12.060 We've asked, what is a marriage?

00:18:13.540 We've asked a few different questions in civil society.

00:18:16.460 And I think with the social issues, we need to ask and answer biblically the question

00:18:20.460 of what is a family?

00:18:21.880 Because most of the social issues where we've gotten off track with the definitions and

00:18:26.300 trying to reinvent or redefine the definition of marriage, parentage, rights of the child,

00:18:32.140 All of these things that go into the relationships and the governance of the family, we have often, as Christians, failed to define what that family unit looks like and its goal and its purpose.

00:18:46.120 And of course, that comes from Genesis 1, where the first institution that God ordained is the family.

00:18:53.160 And that starts with the covenantal union between one man and one woman.

00:18:57.100 That establishes the family unit.

00:18:58.920 And the purpose of that is not just love, affection, emotional companionship, all of those things are well and good, but that's not the ultimate goal or purpose. The ultimate goal and purpose is to model Christ in the church and to have that union, then be an environment that is best suited to raise children in the fear and admonition of the Lord.

00:19:24.540 So why does the church government help? Why does the civil government help? And we have to protect and preserve ultimately the family unit because the family is the fulcrum of civil society, of everything that God intended. The church should supplement that and the church should protect that. And so should the civil government protect the church government and the family government. But everything goes back to the family.

00:19:48.120 And when we've defined family as simply emotional attachment or adult choice, that if I want to be familially related or have these bonds to my roommates or to another woman or to five women in a chandelier, as some people in the UK have done, right, then we have actually perverted the definition of what a family unit means.

00:20:14.800 And if we go back and we actually define the family as God-ordained and that unit, we actually solve all of the other problems of marriage, of parentage, of rights of the child, and of all of the social issues, because we've already defined the context and the environment by which those other issues and institutions resolve and also thrive.

00:20:37.960 absolutely and this is going to upset some people but by defining what the family is we know what it

00:20:43.400 isn't and the family is not two men three men two women three women and that's not because we hate

00:20:48.960 men or women or people who suffer with same-sex attraction just as a family it doesn't include

00:20:53.760 dogs and cats we certainly don't hate dogs and cats we love them all right as just as we love

00:20:58.540 all people but the family is one man and one woman in a lifelong indissoluble union with each other

00:21:04.820 blessed by god with as many children as they are blessed by that is a family that's what it means

00:21:09.200 right amen absolutely and you're so right that you know while we can have and we should have

00:21:14.860 other relationships um even with extended family right this is why in genesis 127 it says a man

00:21:21.800 shall leave his father and mother and be united with his wife and the two shall become one

00:21:25.680 so even within um your family unit that you grew up in when you get married and you start that

00:21:33.140 family unit, that becomes your primary family. And that's what a lot of people have misunderstood.

00:21:39.120 And they believe that family is whatever we choose it to be. Just like a woman now can be 0.99

00:21:44.960 whoever happens to identify as a woman. Well, a family isn't whoever just happens to identify as 0.67

00:21:50.300 a family or whoever you want to add to your phone plan or your Netflix account. It matters that the

00:21:55.920 family unit starts with one man, one woman in the context of marriage, and that that is the family

00:22:03.160 unit and that is the primary. And so for too long, I think that Christians have only addressed 0.58

00:22:09.980 isolated issues like the definition of marriage, like pro-life, like the rights of the child,

00:22:16.560 some of these other social issues without defining the context. So it looks like when we advocate

00:22:22.200 for the definition of marriage as only between one man and one woman. Well, we're just against

00:22:27.300 homosexuals. We just hate any other people who don't act and behave like us, or, oh, this is 1.00

00:22:32.980 just a religious issue. This isn't religious symbolism. This is the laws of nature and of

00:22:38.060 nature's God, because the only context that children can be created and the only opportunity 0.99

00:22:45.400 for procreation is one man and one woman, period. Natural law through God's sovereignty, how he

00:22:51.980 ordained and created it we know that he has because natural law requires only one man and 0.95

00:22:58.760 only one woman and you have to have one man and one woman there's no other context by which a 0.50

00:23:03.760 family can be created oh man i love it and not not to ruin the vibe because i've just been sitting

00:23:09.320 and nodding along but i do think it's good to have healthy disagreement with people that you

00:23:13.740 mostly agree with and i see you as my sister in christ we agree on most stuff but before the show

00:23:18.200 we're chatting about some things we may disagree with. One of my colleagues and friends, Dale,

00:23:23.660 was talking about how the family has an ideal as well, and that it's ideal for a heritage American

00:23:29.540 to marry another heritage American. I would believe that it's ideal for a British person

00:23:35.060 to marry another British person, but you feel there's a bit of difference in there.

00:23:39.000 Yeah, and I think when we're talking about an ideal, we have to define where the ideal is

00:23:43.260 derived from. Are we talking about a biblical ideal, or are we talking about personal preference?

00:23:47.440 because certainly there are people who biblically I could marry because that that would not go

00:23:54.960 against biblical principles that may just not be well suited for me I may not I just simply may not

00:23:59.300 prefer right and so in my view in my ideal I can reject some people that others may say

00:24:07.140 that they wouldn't reject or they may think are good for me right so when we're talking about the

00:24:11.160 ideal we have to first define is it biblical or is it preferential and where I see this obviously

00:24:17.340 God did not say and command that marriage and the ideal biblically is of your same culture,

00:24:26.220 even of your same age. He didn't prescribe any process of dating. The modern invention of dating,

00:24:32.700 I think is actually horrible. I hate it. But that's the modern convention. The Bible prescribes

00:24:38.420 no process from getting from single to married. It's just here are the instructions for people

00:24:43.880 who are single and here are the instructions for people who are married. And the Bible also calls

00:24:49.060 marriage a good thing and says that he who finds a wife finds a good thing and a designed marriage

00:24:56.180 for people to participate in, right? And so when we're talking about the ideal, I disagree with

00:25:01.600 how Dale framed it because he is presupposing that his personal preference, or maybe, you know,

00:25:08.160 we can even argue policy-wise might in 2026 be an ideal, that's preferential. It's not

00:25:16.060 biblically commanded. So I'll give you two reasons why I think it might be biblically commanded. One

00:25:20.540 is that nations and tribes are God-ordained. And so peoples or nations, whatever word we want to

00:25:26.160 use, matter because God set us apart into different regions and different areas for his own reason.

00:25:30.780 We don't have to understand that reason. But also, I would say, in Numbers, we're told that

00:25:35.740 the Israelites are commanded to marry other Israelites. And we see this pattern throughout 0.85

00:25:39.800 the Bible that tribes are commanded to marry within their tribe. And it's usually a punishment 0.75

00:25:44.140 when someone is forced to marry someone outside of their tribe. Now, in the New Testament,

00:25:47.920 we're not bound by those laws from the Old Testament in the same way. However, there's

00:25:52.320 still that cultural recognition that our tribes matter because they're God-ordained,

00:25:56.460 our nations matter because they're God-ordained, and it's been preferential throughout the Bible

00:26:00.300 to marry within your tribe. And there is some preferential treatment to this too that's

00:26:05.600 not unbiblical. That is just that we like our neighbors, we like our nations, we want them to

00:26:10.740 survive. I personally want Great Britain to survive. I want it to be a nation in 100 years time.

00:26:16.040 And if British people don't marry other British people, it won't be. The birth rate's already 0.93

00:26:20.060 abysmally half of replacement rate whilst mass immigration is happening at the same time. Like

00:26:25.640 Britain will no longer exist in our lifetimes unless something radical changes. And people

00:26:30.620 are asking the same thing about america you know the the native the heritage american is what 50

00:26:35.840 57 of the population now white americans are also going extinct and it's not that race is the

00:26:42.140 entirety of it but race comes into it race culture you know ethnicity ethnos is is the the peoples

00:26:47.580 which is made up of culture language faith and and race too so it's some degree it matters

00:26:53.380 preferentially but some degree also does matter biblically right well i think two responses to

00:26:58.380 that first. I agree with you that it matters biblically in terms of what Old Testament Israel

00:27:03.040 was commanded. And we see that reflected in the New Testament in terms of the Old Testament

00:27:08.860 Israelites were commanded to marry other Israelites because they worship the same God. They couldn't 0.82

00:27:12.800 go out and procreate with heathens, just like in the New Testament, we are commanded that we must

00:27:18.300 not be unequally yoked. So that has been a fundamental principle that we are not supposed

00:27:23.680 to marry outside of our faith. That is a commandment, absolutely. And so I could not, as a

00:27:28.480 Christian, marry a non-Christian, period. I agree with you on that. From the Old Testament in terms 0.97

00:27:33.560 of tribe, I think that we're taking that term and applying it to our nation in a way that isn't kind

00:27:41.780 of a one-for-one for the Old Testament. And so when we look at the lineage of Christ and we look

00:27:47.160 at the reasons that God kept the nations and the nation of Israel and the tribes, basically

00:27:54.300 exclusive was to preserve that genealogy and that heritage. We no longer live in that kind of

00:27:59.620 a system. And that was more about the Mosaic law and the Levitical command that we don't live 0.80

00:28:06.520 under that framework as we are under our supreme law, which is the U.S. Constitution, right?

00:28:11.040 But in terms of the priority and the preference of you marrying a Brit, I'm marrying an American, that makes sense from just a wisdom standpoint.

00:28:21.380 But I would say it's wisdom and preference, not biblically commanded.

00:28:24.680 I wouldn't want to marry someone that hates America, regardless of where they were born.

00:28:28.340 I wouldn't want to marry someone who maybe their culture and their understanding of how they would want to raise kids and how we would govern our family.

00:28:36.320 that would be just a lot more difficult than someone who shares the same values who wants

00:28:42.660 to homeschool who understands you know the same cultural um familial sort of type of family

00:28:48.580 government system that i do that's wise uh and that can be challenging if you marry someone

00:28:54.080 outside of that but as long as they're a christian it's not unbiblical i think you've won me around

00:28:59.440 i think the people in the comments are gonna be hating i think you've won me around i'm trying

00:29:03.000 to think what argument i have left um other than there is the this still this idea that there is

00:29:10.280 an endangered species there is a dying um race and it is the white race it is you know happening fast 0.53

00:29:16.960 and so that's important too yeah and i don't disagree with that and i do think that um overall 1.00

00:29:23.160 the the declining birth rate is something that is ultimately utterly tragic regardless of you know

00:29:30.560 what race or heritage we're talking about. The fact that I cited a statistic on my radio show

00:29:35.380 last week that was saying that from 1975, about 81% of males were married and 2025 that had dropped

00:29:44.440 down to something like 16%. And the reason for that, I think goes back to a misunderstanding

00:29:50.360 of what relationship in marriage is for, which is to create that family unit. It's not just for

00:29:56.660 personal preference, accommodation, companionship, you can get those things in 2026 outside of

00:30:01.980 marriage. And that's what people are doing. They don't understand that being part of a family,

00:30:05.820 creating that family unit is what God intended. And that's why the marriage rate is declining

00:30:10.920 and ultimately why the birth rate is declining as well. Yeah. And I am Christ first. I'm Christian

00:30:15.860 first, but I'm also British. And so I'm trying to align these things. It's important for me that

00:30:20.640 Britain remains Christian and it always has been. And I hope it always will be. I don't know. 0.99

00:30:24.940 current demographics don't show that but it's also important to me that britain remains british

00:30:28.960 uh i'm probably gonna have to go back to the bible and find where that comes from if because

00:30:33.620 that might just be my personal preference um but i i think if if britain remained christian but also

00:30:40.520 mostly north african it would no longer be britain and i think that'll be a shame so that's the issue

00:30:46.100 i'm trying to work through right well i don't think that patriotism is unbiblical at all i

00:30:51.100 mean, I'm very proud to be in America. And why? Because I recognize that this nation, and in fact,

00:30:56.740 the West was founded on Christian principles. I mean, this is, as we've talked about extensively,

00:31:01.420 this is Christendom, right? I'm so grateful that here in the United States, I can argue and advocate

00:31:06.580 for religious freedom in the sense and context that we've been describing and say, and you know

00:31:10.720 what, my supreme law of the land actually requires my government to protect my religious freedom,

00:31:16.320 to protect my freedom of speech, my right to keep and bear arms. And I'm so grateful to the founders

00:31:21.000 for creating such a wonderful nation as the United States that I get to argue from a much

00:31:26.880 stronger premise than if I were in a feudal feudalistic society or in basically any other

00:31:32.820 government system across the face of the earth. So I'm very proud to be an American. And I don't

00:31:37.400 think that's a bad thing. And I think to want and desire your nation and your country to turn to

00:31:43.040 Christ and respect Christ, and especially for Britain, which absolutely historically was

00:31:47.600 christian to return to that that's actually a good and biblical thing yeah the church has always

00:31:51.880 taught that uh patriotism is pious it's never really used the word nationalism patriotism has

00:31:57.000 always been taught to be pious so we should all be more patriotic we should love the place that

00:32:00.180 we happen to be born because we're not born here by accident we are born here by god's providence

00:32:04.840 and so we should put him first and love the place that he puts us in i think that's a

00:32:08.820 amen our founders said that too here they said you know look at god's providence look at

00:32:13.220 by you know by grace were here and they were so grateful to be at their place in history and i

00:32:18.440 think that's a wonderful thing i love it jenna where can people find out more about you thank

00:32:23.280 you um so i host a daily radio program from eight to nine eastern jenna ellis in the morning you can

00:32:28.060 stream that at afr.net we have a free app you can stream there live or you can find your local

00:32:33.460 station i also host a weekly podcast called on demand you can find that at afr.net you can also

00:32:39.080 follow me across social media at real jenna ellis on x and on other platforms jenna ellis media

00:32:45.000 jenna thank you for your time today god bless you and keep doing what you do

00:32:47.740 god bless thanks so much for having me it was a joy to be on your show thank you

00:32:52.100 now i'm very pleased to introduce my next guest nick holsher who is an epidemiologist because i

00:32:58.700 want to get to the bottom of what the heck is going on at the moment before i get to what's

00:33:03.380 going on now though i want to discuss what they tried to do to us over the last half a decade

00:33:08.300 or increasing than that now uh nick thank you for joining us how are you thanks for having me i'm

00:33:14.180 great and i'm happy to be on your show thank you it's an absolute pleasure to have you now

00:33:18.680 covid was an up and down journey for me i um happened to be dating someone who worked in

00:33:27.220 the government at the time and i was getting all this information that the world's going to end

00:33:31.300 we're all going to die they're doing everything they can to help us we must just comply i was

00:33:35.000 like oh okay cool and then after a couple of weeks I was like wait a minute this doesn't add up

00:33:38.640 and it didn't take me long to wake up but I did have a waking up process and I think a lot of

00:33:42.580 people had that but fast forward to now years later I haven't seen any accountability from

00:33:49.300 people like Anthony Fauci haven't seen any accountability for major companies like Pfizer

00:33:53.080 that made a killing what is your professional verdict on a on a the the veracity of COVID

00:34:00.040 and B, the way all the governments reacted to that situation?

00:34:05.420 Yeah, the totality of the COVID-19 response is nothing short of catastrophic.

00:34:12.300 In fact, because of the policies, the government actions, the mRNA mandates,

00:34:20.520 the lockdowns, the hospital protocols, all of this was man-made, right? So these man-made

00:34:33.060 policies and actions resulted in most of the deaths, millions of casualties across the globe.

00:34:41.320 So, you know, I would call it criminal. So, you know, I think it's very serious,

00:34:47.960 particularly when we look at how it all began and how there was pre-planning activities,

00:34:53.880 how University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, Ralph Baric was collaborating with Wuhan. 0.85

00:35:01.500 They were making SARS-CoV-2 and SARS viruses more transmissible to humans. 0.56

00:35:08.220 And while at the same time, during those years, 2012, 2014, 15,

00:35:14.660 they're working on the mRNA injections for it already.

00:35:17.960 and we saw this global coordinated response lockstep countries would follow each other lockstep

00:35:26.440 vaccine passports mandates forcing people to get it it was catastrophic you're absolutely spot on

00:35:34.040 with all of that i think just the fact that the virus was man-made and being developed in a lab 0.82

00:35:39.920 in wuhan and that we're hearing about this gain of function that all of these conversations weren't

00:35:44.800 allowed to be had at the time. That's the thing that terrified me the most, not the virus or

00:35:48.540 whether the virus was real or not at the time. The thing that really worried me was the censorship

00:35:53.140 around it. Now, I was on, this show was on television at the time in Great Britain on a

00:35:58.680 channel called GB News. And my job as a commentator, I never call myself a journalist,

00:36:04.920 but my job as a commentator is to comment on situations and ask questions, is try and find

00:36:09.040 out the truth. And I was pushing up against scientists who just didn't want the truth to

00:36:14.060 be questioned, that also raised alarm bells. Let me show you a little clip and let's get your take

00:36:18.080 on this. This was with a scientist called Dr. Simon. What are the other options available to us?

00:36:26.440 Well, social distancing, maintaining good hand hygiene, stuff like that. There are no other

00:36:33.440 real treatment options. Things like dexamethasone works very well, but it only works very well in

00:36:40.380 people who are about to die or real risk of dying there is news from last week of a monoclonal

00:36:48.200 antibody but that will be extraordinarily expensive and it won't be given out to people

00:36:52.540 as an alternative an alternative of choice anyway for a vaccine and hydroxychloroquine for example

00:37:00.840 well show me it works I mean there is zero evidence that it doesn't work but that's that

00:37:07.440 it does work. It just doesn't. It's not zero evidence. We have a report from Harding.

00:37:10.920 Really? No, really. There is zero evidence that it works. And I'm not going up and down

00:37:16.460 this path with you. It doesn't work. I mean, you said give me evidence. I'm willing to

00:37:21.400 give you the evidence. And if you're a scientist, you should address the evidence. Yale University

00:37:24.580 is well-respected around the world. Harvey Risch, PhD, Professor of Epidemiology at Yale,

00:37:29.620 says the evidence of the benefit of HCQ used in high-risk outpatients is extremely strong.

00:37:34.700 So are you saying you don't want to see the evidence or you don't want to believe the evidence?

00:37:39.560 It's not what I want to believe or what I don't want to believe, thanks.

00:37:42.920 It's what I do or don't believe.

00:37:44.860 And appeals to academic seniority like that are really poor science.

00:37:49.960 Interesting.

00:37:50.500 Okay, so what about Invermectin?

00:37:54.360 Invermectin, again, even the manufacturers say it doesn't work.

00:37:58.040 But again, we've seen high cases of this working very well in developing countries,

00:38:01.620 but also in Japan, lots and lots of evidence of it working there.

00:38:04.300 i'm interested i'm interested to hear why every time i speak to you say there's no evidence of

00:38:07.780 this working but when we show you evidence you seem to not want to take it on board is it a case

00:38:11.540 that you don't every time you mean the one time you've spoken to me no no um the general consensus

00:38:17.960 of opinion and it's not just me is that this doesn't work so this clip blew me away nick

00:38:23.280 because i'm here as someone who's not a scientist i don't have a medical background and i'm asking

00:38:28.120 questions and the scientist's response is show me show me that it works i'm like no i'm asking

00:38:32.860 you does this work no no none of these things work none of these things work and you'll have

00:38:37.440 to excuse my pronunciation of ivermectin as invermectin in that clip but this is in the

00:38:41.520 early days when we didn't know what this stuff was and i'm like so does ivermectin work no no no no

00:38:45.740 evidence no like what about this evidence no no no we can't look at that is this a normal response

00:38:50.000 from from the scientific community no it's not normal that comes from somebody who appears to

00:38:55.800 have been ideologically brainwashed by something called vaccine ideology, because right now at this

00:39:04.720 point in time, and not only back then, but right now in this point in time, there's a meta-analysis

00:39:09.180 of studies looking at ivermectin and COVID. There's over 100 studies in this meta-analysis.

00:39:15.320 And according to the hundreds of studies, the ivermectin works without a doubt. In fact,

00:39:23.240 it decreases hospitalizations, time to resolution, it drastically increases,

00:39:29.960 it decreases deaths, and symptom severity decreases. So we know it works. And we also

00:39:37.400 know hydroxychloroquine works. In fact, just by the mechanism itself of how hydroxychloroquine

00:39:43.560 shuttles zinc into the cells to inhibit RNA-dependent RNA polymerase on a pathogen,

00:39:50.920 that will inhibit from replicating. So just of the basic mechanism, like we should at least say,

00:39:57.880 yeah, we suspect it may work. But that individual and many others just lost their minds. They

00:40:05.340 absolutely lost their minds. They said the only solution is the novel mRNA injection or the viral

00:40:11.580 vector injection that uses the synthetic chimpanzee virus. And for some reason, they just

00:40:18.500 got locked into this mindset and that has cost millions of lives across the globe well i can

00:40:25.780 tell you the reason and with no fear of being sued i later found out that this uh scientist

00:40:29.680 research was backed by the same people who invested in the vaccines so his there was a

00:40:34.520 monetary incentive there but the reason i start with the covid stuff before i get to what's

00:40:39.000 happening now is because i want to remind people of how little we should be trusting the so-called

00:40:43.900 experts on all of these things and we should be asking so many questions because the questions

00:40:47.820 were. Is COVID a killer virus? Is it not a killer virus? Is it man-made? Is it not man-made? Is the

00:40:53.260 vaccine work? Does it not work? Is it a vaccine? Is it not a vaccine? Are there alternatives? Are

00:40:57.740 there not alternatives? Or so many questions came up, but so many questions were suppressed.

00:41:01.840 So now fast forward to today when we're hearing, oh, is Ebola going to be the next

00:41:06.880 massive spread pandemic? What are your thoughts on that?

00:41:11.380 No, Ebola will not be the next pandemic. And there's a key reason why. There's been

00:41:17.580 40 Ebola outbreaks across Africa since the 1970s and not a single one has ever become a pandemic

00:41:25.820 out of all 40, including the 2014 one where in West Africa, where there was like 28,000 Ebola

00:41:33.880 cases that didn't become a pandemic. So the worst case scenario in Western countries is you'll see

00:41:41.580 a few cases, sporadic cases here and there, because Ebola does not transmit easily. It's

00:41:48.380 not airborne. It only spreads through direct physical contact with infected bodily fluids,

00:41:55.260 basically like HIV. This is not a respiratory pathogen. This is not COVID. And so all this

00:42:02.680 fear-mongering is taking its toll, and it appears to be a method to sell more vaccines and scare

00:42:10.780 the public, scare the United States into rejoining the World Health Organization.

00:42:15.860 Yes, the World Health Organization, which had a policy that they wanted to be responsible for

00:42:21.340 pandemic management across all the countries signed up to the WHO, which essentially makes

00:42:25.820 them a hyper or a super government, which again is something that concerns me because their

00:42:30.180 response to COVID wasn't great. Let's look at hantavirus as well. What's that looking like in

00:42:35.760 real life yeah so this is a what appears to be with i would say 98 confidence it is a dead-end

00:42:44.780 outbreak so basically there's only been up to 12 confirmed cases not even in fact i believe they

00:42:51.260 subtracted a case a few days ago because it was a false positive um all of these cases were people

00:42:58.120 on the cruise ship so there's been zero cases and people not on the cruise ship it hasn't spread

00:43:04.820 And also, there's been, specifically in the United States, there's been zero confirmed cases.

00:43:10.360 And so it does not have this spread outside of the initial outbreak where they were basically locked in their cabins to breathe in infected air and potentially rat feces and excrement in the dust, as well as from the corpses.

00:43:28.140 We don't know exactly what they did with the corpses right away.

00:43:31.300 we don't have the rodent control logs they claim there was no rodents but they haven't provided any

00:43:37.140 evidence and lastly there was a systematic review paper looked at 22 studies looking at the andy

00:43:43.100 strain the same strain on the cruise ship looked at 22 outbreaks and across these 22 studies there

00:43:49.920 was zero credible evidence of efficient human to human transmission so it's not going to spread

00:43:55.400 it's not going to become a pandemic either okay i'm glad to hear that that's that will ease a lot

00:43:59.900 of people's anxieties, but that's part of all of this, isn't it? The pandemic itself is the stress

00:44:04.940 that the mainstream media or the legacy media puts out there. Do you think there's been a lot

00:44:09.060 of irresponsible reporting on both of these cases? Oh, very, very irresponsible. We see,

00:44:15.540 particularly on the legacy media, large amounts of irrational fear mongering, saying that we should

00:44:23.740 being extremely worried and saying basically the only option we have out of this is with a vaccine,

00:44:31.580 same playbook, you know, every single time with this. And particularly now though with Ebola,

00:44:37.660 they kind of left Hantavirus in the dust because it didn't gin up enough fear. And so now, you know,

00:44:45.580 they're trying to gin up fear for Ebola because there was a study by Gao and colleagues, they

00:44:51.820 found the higher the population perceived fear of a pathogen is, the higher the vaccine uptake.

00:44:59.140 So they need maximal fear to drive the highest amount of vaccine sales.

00:45:06.540 And let's not forget that the vaccine sales were the biggest profit makers in modern history.

00:45:11.360 You know, a company like Pfizer that was almost bankrupt became one of the richest companies in

00:45:16.060 the world almost overnight. And so we should also be questioning that, the motivations behind these.

00:45:20.340 um the one thing that's caught my attention is potentially concerning amongst all of these is

00:45:25.720 the ticks now urban legend is that ticks were released by a department of the u.s government

00:45:32.560 decades ago that ended up spreading lyme disease as some kind of i don't know if it's a field test

00:45:37.820 or what but this is this is urban legend i'm not trying to spread conspiracies i'm just saying this

00:45:40.960 is what people think happened where lyme disease came from and now fast forward to today ticks are

00:45:45.880 popping up everywhere over the last year or two ticks have been popping up in a much higher

00:45:50.820 capacity than they have previously and it's not just lyme disease that's spreading it's of course

00:45:55.800 this uh what do they call it um alpha gal yes which obviously makes people allergic to red

00:46:03.440 meat at a time when people are taking up carnivore diets and people are you know going keto or low

00:46:09.320 carbohydrate trying to ditch the sugar which is obviously really bad for us and trying to get more

00:46:13.580 natural. And also people are trying to spend more time in nature. Touching grass has become a common

00:46:18.380 phrase in the lexicon. So it seems that there's a push against all of that with this new

00:46:23.400 craze of ticks. Yeah, there is. And I'll say the most shocking recent example of this whole

00:46:32.480 tick situation is professors from Western Michigan University published a peer-reviewed paper last

00:46:39.900 year and they've laid out the whole rationale for why they so here's what they say they say

00:46:46.740 genetically modifying ticks releasing them in the in the wild to intentionally spread alpha

00:46:55.840 gal syndrome among the population is morally obligatory what that's what they that's what

00:47:01.780 they say. And they called it a moral bio enhancer to basically, you know, partake in

00:47:09.660 bioterrorism, to have CRISPR edited Lone Star ticks to better spread meat allergies. So you

00:47:17.960 can't even make this stuff up. And then, you know, people have been linking this to Bill Gates and

00:47:24.000 maybe he's doing stuff. We haven't found any evidence of directly implicating the Gates

00:47:30.200 Foundation in Lone Star tick modifications, but we have identified Bill Gates and his foundation

00:47:38.180 did give over $7 million to a biotech company a few years ago to make GMO ticks to spread in the

00:47:46.680 wild. The claimed purpose is to control the cattle, tropical cattle ticks. So we know Gates

00:47:56.960 Foundation is involved in GMO ticks. And yeah, the U.S. Army, or one of the departments of the

00:48:03.780 military, did disperse, I think, hundreds of thousands of ticks in the 1960s. They were

00:48:12.000 basically marked with some sort of radioactive identifier to see how they spread. So we have

00:48:19.560 the precedent, and then we have farmers and other individuals apparently finding boxes of ticks

00:48:26.080 you know on their doorstep and so there could be something very illicit going on regarding this we

00:48:32.520 got to get to the bottom of it well i'm sure this isn't a coincidence that bill gates has also been

00:48:37.820 buying up lots and lots of farmland at the same time as launching meat alternative companies where

00:48:42.880 he grows meat in labs for people to to purchase instead of actually buying genuine organic natural

00:48:49.140 meat those two things can't be a coincidence that he's buying up the farms producing some

00:48:53.660 kind of superficial manufactured man-made meat at the same time as funding these tick companies

00:48:59.840 and these ticks are being modified and spreading something that makes people allergic to meat to

00:49:06.940 cattle it's insane it sounds criminal it's diabolical it's diabolical if you really think

00:49:12.600 of it and you know this it's a debilitating syndrome alpha-gal syndrome you do not want

00:49:18.000 to get it right so if you get bitten by a lone star tick you know it might take a few weeks

00:49:23.500 maybe a month and then all of a sudden you'll start to eat steak or any mammalian meat you can

00:49:29.860 have anaphylaxis or just a severe allergic reaction feel absolutely terrible and it's

00:49:37.120 estimated at least in the united states about 500 000 americans may be affected by this already

00:49:43.060 and it just continues to increase so here's another question on the motivations behind this

00:49:47.400 is this going to spawn another multi-billion dollar industry where people are paying like

00:49:52.980 like male pattern baldness people are paying for solutions to be able to eat meat again

00:49:56.780 yeah i think uh i think that's another avenue that many of these biotechnology companies would

00:50:04.940 love to take they would love to sell a vaccine for you to be able to eat meat again and it

00:50:10.660 wouldn't surprise me if it's the same biotech companies that would have manufactured the ticks

00:50:15.980 in the first place would then sell the solution to allow you to eat ticks again you know that would

00:50:21.740 not surprise me one bit, given what we've seen in the past five years. This is dark. Nick, I want

00:50:27.700 to ask about more homeopathic solutions. I've read extensively that witch hazel and cedar wood

00:50:35.440 are two primary ingredients in creating your own homemade tick repellent. And these things can be

00:50:41.160 far more effective than the stuff you can buy in the stores. Yeah, definitely. Those compounds and

00:50:47.240 other sort of essential oils um in the form of a lotion or cream have shown some efficacy

00:50:54.200 most definitively in preventing ticks and you're right some of these toxic chemicals and some of

00:50:59.080 the major uh grocery store brands that are carcinogenic you do not want to be putting

00:51:04.520 those on your body so yeah definitely look for these uh herbal or natural compounds to protect

00:51:11.640 yourself if you go out in the woods okay well prior to say 2020 i think most ordinary people

00:51:19.200 were getting on with their lives maybe worrying about the economic arguments that were going on

00:51:23.700 you know trying to put bread on the table i don't think most people were worried about global

00:51:27.740 pandemics as they are today every every week now there seems to be some kind of scare factor

00:51:32.180 in the mainstream media what advice can you give people to look out for if there is if something

00:51:38.020 genuinely does come about that is going to be you know apocalyptic or or to guide people away from

00:51:43.220 falling into hyperbole and sensationalism what's your main advice to people well listen we'd be

00:51:49.740 the first one to tell you when something's going to be actually bad so when when something's

00:51:54.420 actually bad look for the people that you know are not selling vaccines um and if they say it's

00:52:01.040 bad, then okay, maybe it's bad. But so what I'll say is there are 3,600 BSL-3 and BSL-4 biolabs

00:52:12.140 currently operational across the world. And so these contain pathogens with pandemic potential.

00:52:18.120 And among these over 3,000 biolabs, they are conducting gain of function activities. And so 0.74

00:52:24.620 they have synthetic pathogens that do not exist in nature sitting in freezers in some of these

00:52:31.020 lab so all it takes is a bioterror act from any could be a single individual an agency a rogue

00:52:40.620 agency or a terrorist group and they could release something and so and we see people even like bill

00:52:48.780 gates warning about it while he laughs he laughs uncontrollably said in a bbc interview when he

00:52:55.500 he says the word bioterror, he began to giggle. And so, you know, we have to be very careful.

00:53:01.880 And so I think the key point, what we would see when something's really actually bad is

00:53:11.440 at first, it would either be something we haven't seen before, or it would be something that,

00:53:17.700 you know, we see, we go from say, you know, 10 cases to a thousand cases in a day. Okay.

00:53:24.220 And so if we see some sort of major signals like that, then for sure we've got to look right away to the genetic sequencing.

00:53:32.200 Are there any laboratory-related anomalies?

00:53:35.420 And we should be able to get the answer pretty quick.

00:53:37.960 But for Ebola and Hantavirus, we do not see any laboratory-related signatures.

00:53:43.300 Okay, that's important.

00:53:44.460 You mentioned bioterrorism.

00:53:46.000 I think we are experiencing a lot of bioterrorism at the moment.

00:53:48.920 But one of the other threats is just human error, an accident.

00:53:52.380 I remember, was it 10, 15 years ago, they found a yogurt pot of smallpox in the back

00:53:57.260 of a freezer that was supposed to be very secure.

00:54:00.020 So these things can happen.

00:54:03.060 But what I'm getting to here is that if there are so many labs around that are testing gain

00:54:07.320 of function and they are messing around with nature in a way that is very dangerous to

00:54:11.040 us, should we be lobbying our governments to prevent that kind of research?

00:54:15.120 As far as I understood, it was illegal in the US anyway.

00:54:18.100 Not illegal.

00:54:19.000 What we did in the U.S. was we stopped the funding for overseas gain-of-function research.

00:54:25.780 But it still is a lot.

00:54:27.000 We still see it happening, unfortunately.

00:54:29.020 But, yeah, it's got to stop. 0.69

00:54:30.680 Because we have to remember, among those 3,600 biolabs, 73% of them, we don't even know their locations, exact locations, or the pathogens they're working with. 0.98

00:54:42.240 So they could be working with whatever, who knows what. 0.99

00:54:45.660 And so we got to stop this.

00:54:49.000 And we can't allow, you know, these rogue scientists, these mad scientists to make Frankenstein pathogens.

00:54:57.760 You know, they could be working on and they have worked on modified bacterium and modified fungi.

00:55:04.860 You know, they could, you know, if you've seen the movie The Last of Us, you know, if you have a cordyceps, a fungus that gets out that's been modified to infect humans, that would be catastrophic.

00:55:16.580 and it would not surprise me some of these military labs have likely already at least

00:55:22.640 attempted to do to to manufacture those so what needs to happen is there should be and i don't

00:55:29.720 know how likely this is given the current geopolitical situations but there needs to be

00:55:36.580 a coordinated international effort to literally shut down completely worldwide ban on gain of

00:55:43.620 function research and go into these labs and if they have modified pathogens with pandemic

00:55:49.420 potential those pathogens should be destroyed i think that's the soundest advice you can give

00:55:56.100 we're going to clip that and put that out let's start a movement to ban these gain of function

00:55:59.340 research labs nick holsher thank you for coming on today you've had many words of wisdom for us

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The NXR Podcast - June 04, 2026

The Next Crusade - The Liberal Jewish Mindset Subverting the West： Open Borders for Thee, Not for Israel

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