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00:01:25.340 Hello and welcome to the next crusade, only here on the New Christian Right, NXR Studios, 0.81

00:01:40.920 newchristianright.com. This is the show where we look at current events from a Christian

00:01:45.020 perspective. We look at the headlines, the topics, the rest of the mainstream media and the legacy

00:01:48.760 media does not want to touch with a 10-foot barge pole. Coming up on today's show, we've got some

00:01:53.340 fantastic guests. We've got Lauren Chen and the Reverend Brett Murphy. We'll be looking at the

00:01:58.780 black problem and is there a British-Anglican revival. But before we do, I want to have just 0.99

00:02:05.740 a brief chat about the state of free speech in my homeland. Now, as this airs, I may or may not

00:02:14.240 have just given an address at the Oxford Union, and it may or may not have been one of the most

00:02:19.760 historic debates in the Oxford Union in recent history, with myself, Lawrence Fox, and Tommy

00:02:24.780 Robinson against Jacob Rees-Mogg and a number of Mohammedans on the question of, should Britain

00:02:31.100 be suspicious of Islam? And it's important that this topic be had in our country. And one of the

00:02:37.460 best places to have this kind of conversation is, of course, the Oxford Union, founded in 1823,

00:02:43.020 when at the time in Oxford, at the oldest university in the world, some would say the

00:02:48.340 best university in the world, you weren't able to have debates on politics or religion. Bearing in

00:02:54.520 mind that Oxford was founded as a Christian institution, at the time that sort of

00:02:59.260 conversation wasn't allowed. And so the union was set up to have a safe space for open debate,

00:03:05.700 for free speech. And since then, for over 200 years now, it has been that until relatively

00:03:13.280 recently. My good friend Carl Benjamin from the Lotus Eaters was disinvited or his event was

00:03:19.880 cancelled recently. I spoke there a couple of years ago and before we even began the president

00:03:26.320 of the union started by saying I've had a lot of complaints from people saying that I shouldn't

00:03:30.960 invite Father Robinson here, oh I think it was Deacon Robinson at the time, but we believe in

00:03:34.480 free speech and so we're going to have this conversation. That was of course a debate on

00:03:38.180 whether the church should have same-sex marriage within the Christian church which of course is

00:03:42.680 an impossibility. Then I was against three bishops from the Church of England, which is a very sad

00:03:47.180 state of affairs. But the debate went ahead. And I'm glad that it did, because that conversation

00:03:51.260 needed to be had. Fast forward to today, we're having a similar problem. And Tommy Robinson

00:03:58.200 is seen as far right. And Lawrence Fox is seen as a provocateur. And I am seen as a bigot. And so

00:04:05.940 we are three people that people don't want to be seen in public. So I'm kind of questioning,

00:04:12.040 what's the point of a debate society where you're not allowed to debate controversial subjects if

00:04:15.940 you're only debating things that everyone agrees on then it's not a debate regardless of that the

00:04:21.220 Oxford County Council and the Thames Valley Police have been putting pressure on the Oxford Union to

00:04:27.400 cancel the event all different types of pressure first they tried to say look it will cost £80,000

00:04:32.740 in security to which Lawrence said well we'll pay for our own security then and then they tried to

00:04:38.920 say well it's an inconvenience and we don't want to you know we wouldn't want the Oxford Union to

00:04:44.240 ruin its relationship with with the police in the county by having to divert traffic and stuff and

00:04:48.620 then the Oxford Union is like but it's your job to police and like if we are hosting these events

00:04:53.400 then we're informing you so that you can police and then Thames Valley and the the commissioner

00:04:59.860 put together a statement for the Oxford Union on behalf of the Oxford Union gave it over to them

00:05:05.080 said publish this saying that they're going to cancel the event that it's no one's fault uh but

00:05:10.360 they have the full they fully support thames valley and to which the oxford union said no

00:05:14.660 we're not going to do that that's those aren't our words and you are the one saying that we should

00:05:18.400 cancel the event if you are saying that we'll think about it and it almost did get cancelled

00:05:22.320 i don't know if it has or hasn't yet because as i'm recording i haven't done the debate yet but

00:05:26.400 as you're watching this it will have either happened or not happened this is the the magic

00:05:30.360 of television right or pre-recorded podcasts but the problem is that the outside pressure

00:05:36.020 was massive and these are just students like the people running the Oxford Union are literary

00:05:41.160 students and so they're they're wondering about their future career prospects they're wondering

00:05:45.480 about pressure from from politicians and and commissioners and police forces they don't want

00:05:50.860 to rock the boat too much they just want to have a free speech debate society it should not be that

00:05:55.120 way. In any university, you should be able to debate any topic. But in an Oxford Union or

00:06:00.320 Cambridge Union, in a debate society, you should especially be able to debate any topic. And I find

00:06:06.200 it problematic that this censorious environment exists. And of course, part of it is because the

00:06:12.240 topic is Islam. Islam is the one topic that nobody in Britain wants to discuss, partly because they're 1.00

00:06:18.360 afraid of being called racist, and partly because, what I think is the case here, they're afraid of 0.99

00:06:23.220 what will happen they are genuinely afraid that me lawrence or tommy could get killed by a raving 0.98

00:06:29.540 mad wild mohammedan because they do not accept criticism of their ideology as you're watching 0.99

00:06:35.180 this i may have i may well have been martyred at this point i may not be alive anymore that's how 1.00

00:06:40.300 bad islam is in our country which is exactly why we need to fight against it and part of the fighting 1.00

00:06:45.480 against it is addressing the problems of it and that's what i intend to do so hopefully by this 1.00

00:06:50.840 point we could put a clip up of the event and saying it was a success if not then please pray

00:06:56.560 for my soul that i make it through purgatory to heaven now moving on i had i took a lot of

00:07:01.640 criticism recently for using the word pastor about a protestant woman doesn't matter who it

00:07:08.260 was i won't go to the to the who's or how's but um i'm taking that feedback on board because i

00:07:14.640 think actually some of the criticism was right because let's have a look at what it means to

00:07:19.040 be a pastor right so from the bible we have a few different words we've got diakonos which is the

00:07:24.620 word for deacon which is a servant minister we've got presbytros which is the word for presbyter

00:07:30.580 which we these days we call priest i'll come back to that which is an ordained teacher who presides

00:07:36.040 over the sacraments and we've got episkopos which is bishops the episcopacy and these are still

00:07:41.900 these are the greek words that we still use and the bishop has oversight they are the overseer

00:07:47.560 another biblical word and they have the fullness of holy orders and so this is this is a translation

00:07:53.380 to what we practice today in the priests we call them vicars in england because they operate

00:07:57.740 vicariously for the bishop on behalf of the bishop the bishop has that threefold ministry of deacon

00:08:02.980 priest and bishop whereas priests we are deacon and priest and deacons are deacons but a bishop

00:08:09.680 has all three and is all three and so sometimes in the bible you may hear those words used

00:08:15.080 interchangeably in the early days but then they did settle so i think there's an element of a the

00:08:19.940 language was being uh formulated but b there's also that recognition that uh bishops are all three

00:08:25.520 bishops are still priests who are still deacons forever but a pastor in the protestant sense is

00:08:33.400 somewhere between a presbytos and episkopos uh so somewhere between a presbyter and a bishop or

00:08:39.220 or a priest or bishop so it's co-opting the title of shepherd but they're not ordained into holy

00:08:45.560 orders and so they don't have they're not ordained as a teacher they can't preside over the sacraments

00:08:49.900 so there's no eucharist there and they don't have apostolic succession which means they don't have

00:08:54.240 the fullness of the deposit of faith i'm not saying they don't have any of the deposit of

00:08:57.420 faith but they don't have the fullness of it because it's passed down from christ to the

00:09:00.780 apostles from the apostles to their disciples on and on and on and on that unbroken line of

00:09:05.740 apostolic succession is important for those gifts of the holy spirit for that ontological change

00:09:10.840 that happens to the human man in ordination your soul is permanently marked so therefore

00:09:18.040 christians uh under the catholic or orthodox tradition cannot uh refer to a protestant as

00:09:25.840 pastor in terms of recognizing their authority or submitting unto them that now there has been

00:09:31.440 expectation from the church of respectful dialogue and so we quite often say pastor such and such

00:09:36.540 pastor such and such you know i went to moscow i recorded some content with pastor doug wilson

00:09:41.660 now i don't recognize him as a priest or a bishop he isn't he has no absolute succession he has

00:09:47.340 doesn't have the fullness of the deposit of faith but i'm record i'm using his title in a form of

00:09:51.620 respect but i'm taking the feedback on board that i've had um and i think was mostly from protestants

00:09:56.600 suchly because you're right in that if i don't recognize their authority i shouldn't use a word

00:10:02.640 and it is and it is all one way when i was in moscow i was referring to pastor doug wilson as

00:10:07.380 pastor but they weren't referring to me as father calvin robinson and it's like i wrote it in a lot

00:10:11.860 of protestant circles but i've never taken offense when people don't call me father because i

00:10:15.620 understand their theology although i would say it's clearly wrong doesn't recognize me as a

00:10:20.320 spiritual father because they've got a misunderstanding of that part of the bible

00:10:24.880 which I can get to as well if it's helpful, but I have always done the opposite and I've always 0.95

00:10:30.940 tried to be respectful of, but I'm going to take the respect out of it and actually stick to the

00:10:35.740 theological truth. So going forward, I will never refer, or I'll try not to refer to Protestants as

00:10:40.580 pastor. The next time I see Doug Wilson, he'll just be Mr. Wilson. I'll still try to be respectful 0.95

00:10:46.660 Mr. Wilson. I was always taught to refer to my elders, but I won't pretend that he has any

00:10:53.220 spiritual authority but all men all fathers and husbands are priests of a sort within their own

00:11:01.020 home there is a spiritual authority of the father in the household that is important and we do

00:11:07.300 believe all of us in that uh royal priesthood of all believers to give it a quote a phrase in that

00:11:13.720 we're all part of a priesthood and christ himself is the high priest however we do recognize a

00:11:20.100 sacerdotal ministry a ministerial priesthood where we we consecrate bread and wine and we

00:11:26.900 and it becomes the body and blood of christ that happens at the altar because christ died for us

00:11:32.900 on the cross at calvary that one once for all sacrifice on the cross is a perpetual sacrifice

00:11:39.940 which we partake in at the eucharist and so no we're not killing christ over again to people

00:11:45.020 who will try and strawman me what i'm saying is we we outside of time a piece of heaven comes to

00:11:50.580 earth and a piece of the congregation goes rises to heaven our hearts are lifted up and we are in

00:11:55.960 that moment of that perpetual sacrifice and the priest is standing there in the person of christ

00:12:00.260 for the congregation offering up we as we offer ourselves up to be a living sacrifice but also

00:12:05.820 offering christ up to the father in that perpetuation for our sins and so yes the the mass

00:12:11.800 is sacrificial but only priests and bishops can partake in that because it's an ordination process

00:12:17.780 that we are set apart for it is a vocation a calling and so protestant pastors do not do that

00:12:24.460 cannot do that and it's important we we are clear on that and so i'm taking that i've taken that

00:12:30.480 criticism and i'm working on that so thank you for that those of you i think they were unhappy

00:12:34.500 that i was referring to a woman as pastor but my point is that she is no more pastor than any of

00:12:38.940 the other protestants who go around calling themselves pastors and so we should look to all

00:12:43.320 be in line with apostolic succession and we should all look to have the fullness of the deposit of

00:12:47.540 faith and that is something we should all pray and discern over um and just to finally wrap up

00:12:53.440 on that piece priest uh is of course an old testament word when we use the word priest in

00:13:00.220 as christians in the new covenant what we're it's a colloquialism for presbyter so we're referring

00:13:06.520 to the presbyter which is the proper title and this is not a anglican thing catholics use this

00:13:12.400 too presbyter is the biblical word for the priest so we have the deacon we have the priest or the

00:13:18.940 presbyter and we have the bishop that is the threefold order of threefold ministry of holy

00:13:23.520 orders i hope that cleared things up a little thank you for raising that though i appreciate it

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00:15:00.860 my next guest is the one and only Lauren Chen. Lauren, thank you for joining us.

00:15:05.660 Thank you so much for having me. I've been listening to you since you were on the Lotus

00:15:09.620 Eaters podcast. I'm a big fan, so really cool to be here. That's very kind of you. Thank you.

00:15:13.860 You've just relaunched your show. How's that going? It's a little bit of a struggle. I mean,

00:15:19.360 it's a lot of fun but i've i've for the longest time was a youtuber so that's short form kind of

00:15:25.320 content that's edited pre-recorded now i'm doing live streaming like the young people do and it's

00:15:31.200 it's a whole different ball game i'm encountering different technical difficulties having to learn

00:15:36.720 the new lingo keep up with the chat but it's it's honestly a lot of fun and i'm having a great time

00:15:42.220 doing it so if hey if anyone watching is on twitch or kick or i'm still on rumble and x uh would be

00:15:48.060 happy to have you it's been it's been yeah a lot of new things but it's it's a good it's a good

00:15:54.060 journey we're on good I'm glad to hear it what I like about your content Lauren is you just say

00:15:58.200 things you just say it as it is like you don't mince your words you don't tread on eggshells

00:16:02.280 and we live in an age where people are afraid to speak so it's always refreshing to hear someone

00:16:06.200 just say something right and actually I think I almost had a bit of a reset so last year I spent

00:16:13.240 six months in Asia, which is where I grew up, but I hadn't spent a huge amount of time there,

00:16:18.220 you know, more than a month since I basically went into college. And so it's, it was really

00:16:24.680 interesting, almost going back to factory settings for me, because, you know, in the West, we're so

00:16:29.540 used to mincing our words, being politically correct. And I mean, frankly, in Asia, they just 0.99

00:16:33.620 don't play that game. You can call a spade a spade. If you're, if you're looking at a problem, 1.00

00:16:37.820 like, wow, there's a lot of black crime. You could just say that. It's not controversial. 1.00

00:16:43.240 As I think people in the West are learning with the automatic translate function on X,

00:16:47.320 we're starting to see more, I guess, more of what political discourse looks like in other

00:16:52.140 countries. And so that's kind of the mentality I've come back with. Not only am I kind of like

00:16:57.800 more attuned into a not necessarily Western filter, but also I've basically been canceled

00:17:04.940 by everyone who could possibly want to cancel me at this point. So for better or worse,

00:17:09.480 it's not as if I have any, you know, bridges left to be burned, so to speak. So I'm really free to

00:17:15.480 just shoot from the hip in that regard. Well, that is liberating, isn't it? And I do want to

00:17:19.700 get to the black problem. We'll get to that later. But you mentioned that political correctness. And 1.00

00:17:24.080 of course, that came from the Soviets. It came from the commies that, yes, this is actually 0.81

00:17:28.540 correct, but it's not politically correct. And that was the indoctrination that you had to say

00:17:32.280 what the state wanted you to say. You had to think what the state wanted you to think.

00:17:36.240 And I think we're reaching that point again in the West, particularly in Europe, especially in my homeland in Great Britain. It seems there is a correct thing, there's a truth, but you can't speak the truth because you'll get in trouble. You'll get arrested for social media posts or retweets or comments. But you can say what the government wants you to say. That's what they want you to think.

00:17:52.960 right and it's funny because i i watched tucker carlson and pierce morgan debate free speech and

00:17:59.800 whether the uk had free speech and the argument that pierce morgan was putting forward well i

00:18:04.380 can criticize keir stommer of course the uk has free speech how could you say otherwise i mean

00:18:09.400 you could criticize keir stommer in north korea as well no problem there uh it's strange to think

00:18:14.820 that the litmus for free speech is whether you can criticize keir stommer i think a better metric is

00:18:19.720 whether you can criticize the people in charge. And for the uninitiated, you might think that

00:18:23.940 that refers to Keir Stalmer. But as we've seen, people have been arrested for social media posts

00:18:29.140 criticizing the LGBT community, mass migration, kind of this globalist trend. So I think in the

00:18:35.280 UK, objectively speaking, no, you cannot criticize the people in charge. But some people might

00:18:40.580 wrongly think that the people in charge just refers to the politicians. Yeah. And also people

00:18:46.340 don't tend to mind people being cancelled if they're being cancelled for something that they

00:18:49.480 agree with or disagree with. For example, if you speak out against mass migration, you can get

00:18:54.080 arrested. Lucy Conley is an example. There have been people arrested for speaking out against

00:18:58.760 mass migration. If you speak out against Islam, you can be arrested. It's Islamophobia. It's

00:19:03.400 pretty much a blasphemy law we've got in our country now. You're absolutely right. It's the 1.00

00:19:06.640 people in power, but it's also the people aligned with the people in power. That censorship is

00:19:12.800 growing all across the continent. I've seen you push back against Europeans who seem to say that

00:19:17.280 Europe has more free speech than America, which cannot be the case because America has

00:19:21.280 a constitution that is codified that explicitly outlines free speech.

00:19:26.100 In your travels back to Asia and back to America, have you seen a difference?

00:19:30.360 Do you think America still does have free speech?

00:19:33.640 Well, honestly, I think that's a topic up for debate. I don't think it's controversial to say

00:19:39.400 that compared to all other countries, the US does have free speech, at least relatively. Now,

00:19:44.700 whether the U.S. has absolute free speech. Well, there are some cases that I think put that into

00:19:49.980 into question. We have seen pro pro-life activists arrested and prosecuted by the Biden DOJ.

00:19:56.120 I think my whole issue with the, you know, the tenant media scandal, I think that arguably is

00:20:00.980 a question of, you know, First Amendment and free speech protections as well. When you're going

00:20:04.860 around, you know, accusing people with YouTube channels of being foreign assets and propagandists

00:20:10.540 when there's absolutely no like no evidence pointing to whether you're being fed lions or

00:20:15.020 anything like that uh we also have uh there was recently a mayor in in california who was charged

00:20:21.220 by the doj under i think similar something a foreign agent act uh because she was putting out

00:20:27.820 uh you know i think i think it was like op-eds that had ties to the chinese communist party

00:20:34.580 whether you agree with that or not i think arguable like if you have free speech then

00:20:39.660 you shouldn't be going after any type of speech prosecutions, period. So I think we are entering

00:20:45.380 an era in the United States where it's becoming more and more of a gray area, less black and white.

00:20:51.360 Of course, you can say that you have free speech. Oh, not to mention, we have the case of Chud the 0.99

00:20:54.880 Builder. He's someone, I don't know if your audience might be familiar with this, but he's

00:20:58.740 a streamer. I think it's fair to say he's a provocateur who goes around being a little bit

00:21:03.700 liberal with the naughty no-no gamer word towards black people not advisable under you know any 0.80

00:21:09.300 circumstance now he's actually being charged with attempted murder because he claims he acted in 0.57

00:21:15.700 self-defense other people are saying no this word in and of itself is provocation I think there's

00:21:19.860 also a case to be made that that is a free speech issue uh it's violence if it's even if it's

00:21:25.600 unflattering so yeah like I'll repeat again is America the place where you have the most free

00:21:31.760 speech rights, 100% absolutely. Is the First Amendment as robust as perhaps the founding

00:21:36.840 fathers would have imagined? Not so sure about that. Yeah, indeed. And again, where you can't

00:21:42.360 speak on Islam in Britain, you can't speak on Israel in America. It's very controversial.

00:21:46.340 Yes. People could take $7,000 from the Israeli government to promote Israel all day, every day,

00:21:51.920 as you point out, take it from China or Qatar, then it's a problem. So there's a two-tiered system.

00:21:55.900 Yeah. No, 100%. I'm actually, I'm glad you bring that up because that's another issue where the

00:22:01.560 free speech tests of the United States are maybe starting to fail a little bit more because you

00:22:06.180 also have, I think, individual states as well that might have their own specific, I guess,

00:22:11.540 regulations as to what qualifies as hate speech going further than just saying, oh, these calls

00:22:15.900 to action, they're fighting words. Now they're also starting to include things like anti-Semitism.

00:22:20.100 And, you know, in which case, regardless of how you feel about that, you know, saying that the

00:22:24.560 government should have a role in prosecuting hate speech, that is an anti-free speech stance.

00:22:28.660 Absolutely. I hope the Americans push back against that. But you mentioned Chud the Builder. I want to get to this Chud guy because part of it is a free speech issue, but part of it is a provocateur issue. So I think if the word nigger can be said by anyone, it can be said by everyone. I don't believe in certain words that only certain people can say. I think that's bizarre. I don't know how we've fallen into that trap. But at the same time, that will probably be beeped out. So I'll probably be censoring myself or my team will be censoring me because you can't say these words on YouTube.

00:22:58.660 as you very well know um but the point is i'm not afraid to say them these are just words

00:23:03.100 but to go out there and purposefully say words not in any context of a conversation just just

00:23:09.900 to annoy people to get a reaction out of people well sometimes that reaction is going to be violent

00:23:14.680 surely so to some extent i think chud is actually provoking chimping out by chimping out himself

00:23:21.040 right and that that's kind of you know when i first covered the story and i i wasn't someone

00:23:27.060 who is familiar with chud beforehand this was actually the first time i was exposed to his

00:23:31.840 content i've all i very firmly believe that you know saying the n-word is not in and of itself

00:23:37.100 provocation to violence because it's not a threat it's not violence in and of itself so if you're

00:23:41.660 committing violence you are the one who's escalating things there but i also you know

00:23:46.320 went out of my way to say this is not the type of content or conduct that we should be aspiring to 0.98

00:23:52.140 But I think it's, you know, if there were a black person going around saying, cracker, cracker, or to me, chink, chink, I mean, we would all agree that this is obnoxious behavior. 1.00

00:24:01.400 We shouldn't be condoning it. It's disrespectful. It's crass. It's rude. It's low class.

00:24:07.180 However, the reason why I think the issue of Chud is worth talking about, and, you know, obviously this is an ongoing court case. 0.96

00:24:14.220 We don't actually have footage that's been released to the public of what happened that fateful day.

00:24:19.980 So there are conflicting reports. But there is a narrative going on that it seems to align fairly well with what the state has currently put out in regard to Chud's charges, that the person who Chud got into a fight with, Chud hadn't actually used the N-word toward him on that day.

00:24:39.820 This was someone who was simply familiar with Chud's other content and went to either seek him out specifically that day or happened to be in the area and saw him.

00:24:51.100 And because he saw previous live streams where he did use the N-word, that is what inspired the, I guess, initial confrontation.

00:24:58.740 So now we're not just talking about whether in the moment using the N-word against someone is the equivalent of starting a fight and provoking someone.

00:25:05.600 Now the question is, is using the N-word at a previous time, in a previous place, does

00:25:12.400 that put a target on your back for the rest of your life, where now it's fair game for

00:25:16.640 anyone to go and chimp out at you because previously you have said that word?

00:25:20.920 And I'm surprised at the number of people online who I'm seeing saying, yes, that absolutely 1.00

00:25:24.860 should be the standard.

00:25:25.860 Well, of course it shouldn't.

00:25:27.520 No word you say should ever provoke someone to the act of violence.

00:25:30.860 And there's nuance in these things.

00:25:32.360 obviously when Charlie Kirk was assassinated the wicked left were celebrating saying he had it

00:25:37.280 coming because he said things we didn't like to hear of course no one should ever receive violence

00:25:41.120 or violent threats because they're saying things that people don't like to hear but I think it's

00:25:45.120 very different because the context of Charlie's conversations were always this is a problem or

00:25:48.760 this is a good thing it wasn't I want to provoke you whereas with Charlie he actively knows the

00:25:53.740 response he's going to get and I don't think that people should be violent towards him but

00:25:56.920 at the same time I know that that's kind of what he's seeking because that's what his content is 0.88

00:26:01.160 well and i'll push back a little bit there because like i said i've i've not been a um a chud fan

00:26:08.320 i haven't seen a lot of his content but i initially took the same stance that you have

00:26:13.280 toward him but in response to that people who do follow his content they've shown clips

00:26:18.060 kind of showing that you know if if he is speaking to a black person and there's respect both ways

00:26:23.940 then he actually is quite amicable it's really only when the i mean at least this is what they're

00:26:30.000 saying and i want to kind of be fair to his content especially as someone who's not super

00:26:34.580 familiar with it um the you know the idea is that he he he is a mirror of whoever he's talking to if

00:26:41.780 they want to kind of chimp out then he raises to the same level but on the other hand if if they

00:26:46.700 do kind of show him respect then he is happy to to return that even if he's talking to a black person 0.61

00:26:51.680 i haven't seen enough of his content to make a full determination myself but you know just

00:26:57.100 for fairness sake i thought i'd throw that out there yeah that is fair and i have seen his

00:27:01.180 content does pop up on my instagram feed i don't know why my algorithm is a mess but i have seen

00:27:05.640 him uh be respectful towards black people but he does start the whole conversation off by throwing

00:27:10.460 the m-bomb out there so you know yeah that is that is quite a conversation starter let's not

00:27:16.220 be violent towards people but also let's try and have civil conversations where we can uh but some

00:27:20.600 people right and i think that is the you know the the christian thing to do the polite thing to do

00:27:24.900 And I kind of, what I've said to my audience is I don't say the N-word because I try not to swear, period. I don't think swearing is, it's not that I, you know, I have some cancel culture attitude to it, but I try to, you know, conduct myself in a certain way. Saying slurs to people doesn't fit into that. And I think, you know, that's very different than I'm not going to say it because I'm worried I'm going to be cancelled and because I think saying it might justify violence against someone.

00:27:49.300 I completely agree and respect that view. But there's also the problem there that there are certain demographics that don't necessarily have the capacity to engage in a civilized manner, or it seems they don't. I don't know whether this is, you know, shortened prefrontal cortexes or if this is entirely cultural.

00:28:06.720 But within the African-American demographic, there is certainly a problem with hyper-violence.

00:28:14.460 We saw very recently that McDonald's are changing their policy on the drinks fountains due to changing consumer habits.

00:28:23.480 Very polite.

00:28:24.000 I hate changing consumer habits.

00:28:26.380 Aren't those the worst?

00:28:27.620 Those dang changing consumer habits. 0.97

00:28:30.340 The consumer habits are changing.

00:28:32.360 You put out a tweet, quote tweeting,

00:28:34.800 Notice how the silverware and napkin dispensers

00:28:37.840 Are also completely emptied in her presence

00:28:39.760 I think we can show this little video

00:28:40.900 Day three of me coming to Chipotle

00:28:44.080 Asking for a water cup

00:28:46.420 And getting everything but water

00:28:48.500 I like to mix mine together

00:28:50.740 I'm here away, I'm sorry

00:28:53.940 I'm in my arms

00:28:56.660 Because like I said, if I'm going to pay for my boat

00:29:04.080 my drink needs to be free period thank you lauren nothing is free if someone's taking something

00:29:14.020 someone else is paying for it right and in this case it's not just i think she's at a chipotle

00:29:19.660 it's all of us we're all paying for it because the more that this behavior behavior becomes

00:29:24.040 normalized and i'm not i'm not just trying to stand for you know big fast food here but it

00:29:29.140 makes everyone's experience worse now with mcdonald's we're not going to be able to get

00:29:32.620 free refills because people are trying to fill up either water bottles or water cups with the

00:29:38.100 sodas. So now we won't have access to that. We also see videos going viral of people dining and

00:29:43.260 dashing. So now increasingly even nicer restaurants are going to be saying, hey, we're going to need

00:29:48.800 a card on file or deposit before we even let you order. We also have a new trend where people are

00:29:53.320 going to hotels they're not staying at, getting free breakfast and leaving. So now you either

00:29:58.560 aren't going to be offered free breakfast. We're going to have to show your key card or something

00:30:02.760 like that before you're able to access it. And it's just these people make society worse for

00:30:07.460 everybody. And it's frustrating that we actually have to explain that. And I think it's also

00:30:13.520 notable that these are trends that are getting worse and spreading more widely. 10 years ago,

00:30:20.040 this wasn't happening. So we need to ask ourselves, what is happening in the culture

00:30:24.260 where standards for behavior are actually getting lower.

00:30:27.440 Same with these teen takeovers.

00:30:29.360 This wasn't happening previously,

00:30:30.980 at least in the numbers that we're seeing now,

00:30:33.060 things are actively getting worse,

00:30:34.800 which means, I mean, the silver lining is that,

00:30:37.340 I mean, it means things could presumably get better as well,

00:30:40.120 but we just need to be able to enforce certain standards.

00:30:43.100 And for some reason,

00:30:44.160 there's a big segment of the population

00:30:45.660 that even if they're not perpetuating

00:30:47.980 these behaviors themselves,

00:30:49.180 they're more than happy to excuse them,

00:30:51.240 to justify them, to try to look the other way

00:30:53.240 because it's uncomfortable to talk about in a dress.

00:30:56.040 Indeed, they don't seem to want to play by the same rules.

00:30:58.140 And of course, there is nuance in this

00:30:59.500 as there is nuance in most things.

00:31:01.300 That woman taking her water cup 1.00

00:31:03.220 and filling it up at the fountain is gaming the system. 0.72

00:31:05.660 But then we have a fully grown man here

00:31:07.220 who's bringing in his own bottle

00:31:09.000 that is clearly not the water cup.

00:31:11.300 This is outright stealing, right?

00:31:12.960 This isn't gaming the system.

00:31:13.880 This is outright stealing.

00:31:14.980 You came, that was preemptive.

00:31:18.540 No, right.

00:31:19.280 And it's, you know, it's frustrating

00:31:21.620 that we know it's whoever's store that is they're probably scared to say anything for fear that they

00:31:27.660 might be attacked or even killed perhaps and you know oftentimes police departments in areas where

00:31:33.260 this type of things happen happening they're overwhelmed there are actual bigger crimes

00:31:37.140 because like you know it's kind of like a scale you might say like oh well this isn't as bad as

00:31:43.340 something like murder or bigger theft but these behaviors all often go hand in hand and that's

00:31:47.740 what people need to realize. We saw Mayor Mamdani, he, you know, just to kind of look at this on the

00:31:52.800 macro scale, he was very much against things like enforcing fair rules in the subway and, you know,

00:31:58.040 making sure that people paid because he was saying, you know, we're criminalizing just petty

00:32:01.700 behaviors. This doesn't really matter. This isn't something we should be focusing on. But then now

00:32:06.300 what we see is that crime and including like murders on the subway are up, I think, 300 percent

00:32:11.760 since he took office because it's actually like it's a it's a ripple effect. If you don't enforce

00:32:16.820 the little things then that means that the big things kind of won't be enforced either and people

00:32:21.140 who might have gone gone on to do bigger crimes but they started with the smaller crimes well

00:32:25.400 they're not being stopped at that earlier intervention so they can go on to you know

00:32:30.260 perhaps become violent or commit robberies that are a lot more substantial words of wisdom before

00:32:37.000 this i used to be an assistant principal and my policy was sweat the small stuff then you don't

00:32:41.460 get to the big stuff if we are absolute fascists about you school uniform say no your socks aren't

00:32:46.440 high enough you know to tuck your shirt in like just get everything down to being pristine the

00:32:51.220 kids don't understand it of course they don't but they do want discipline because they want to be in

00:32:55.040 an environment where they can learn and if you sweat that small stuff you don't get to the kids

00:32:58.560 picking up chairs to hit each other over the head with which does happen in some state schools yes

00:33:03.460 but it's this false idea of compassion this soft parenting style oh it's a form of communication

00:33:09.040 in fact during my teacher training one of the lecturers one of the professors said if a child

00:33:13.620 is misbehaving it's a form of communication it's like no it's not children are just sometimes

00:33:17.540 being bad sometimes being naughty and if we let it happen as child as children it can happen in

00:33:23.000 adulthood too here's a video of just a typical american restaurant

00:33:43.620 people shouldn't have to live like this that is not normal and no it's not it's not normal and

00:33:50.900 it's not acceptable and i cover these types of stories a lot on my show and i often hear people

00:33:55.660 say like oh you just you hate america why are you always complaining about america scenes like this

00:33:59.760 don't represent america to be clear especially if you have uh european audiences watching there are

00:34:05.320 plenty of idyllic almost utopian suburbs and rural areas in america the problem is however that

00:34:11.220 increasingly, this does represent American cities. And, you know, it's because disproportionately

00:34:16.680 in American cities, you also have certain demographics. You've said, you've referred

00:34:20.580 to this as the Black problem. Your words, not mine. So we're clear. You have a certain, I think, 0.97

00:34:25.540 maybe understanding with using that phrase that I probably wouldn't be given. But this is not

00:34:30.520 acceptable. And the people who don't want to address this for fear that they don't want to

00:34:34.420 offend the Black community, they don't realize that the biggest victims of this behavior are, 0.96

00:34:38.700 in fact, the black community. Because, you know, people who are wealthier, disproportionately 0.95

00:34:43.020 whiter, they could go to different neighborhoods, right? They can kind of buy their way out of this

00:34:47.840 problem, keep the riffraff out with higher prices. But if you're a normal black person, 1.00

00:34:52.520 but who perhaps is a little bit lower on the financial rung, it's not fair for you to have

00:34:57.600 to live like this. It's honestly not. You know, the term right is thrown around a lot nowadays.

00:35:03.400 Everything's a right. You have a right to this and that. I do think right to safety is paramount.

00:35:07.740 And I think you have the right to be safe, regardless of what your color is, what your income level is. And like, ultimately, it is like lower income communities who are harmed by this behavior, and we're not doing them any favors by being permissive about it.

00:35:20.680 Then homogenous societies tend to be high trust societies. And that's not me being a white supremacist. You are obviously Asian. I'm obviously half Afro-Caribbean, half English. Neither of us are heritage Americans. But we can at least observe there's a growing problem with the African American community in that they are not assimilating and integrating in the same way that you and I do with this wonderful country and this great culture. That is a problem.

00:35:41.800 Right. And I actually think there's an interesting distinction to be drawn with the African diaspora and African-Americans because I've gotten into, you know, online confrontations with the African-American community, Black Americans, quite a bit because I talk about these issues. 0.79

00:36:01.260 They're very quick to throw out racial slurs, even though I would never do such a thing.

00:36:05.320 there are death threats, threats of violence. This is all very common when you criticize

00:36:10.140 anything about the Black community. However, I had a post go pretty viral where I was talking

00:36:15.720 about the effects of colonialism on Africa, basically saying, no, Africa is not poor because

00:36:19.520 of the Europeans. That's cope. And a lot of Africans, as you can imagine, were not very

00:36:24.780 sympathetic to my viewpoint. However, what was really interesting is I noticed that there was

00:36:29.600 a huge difference in the level of discourse that i received like critical discourse from the african

00:36:35.680 community and the black community uh i to my recollection was not met with any threats of

00:36:42.160 rape or violence or slurs i received thoughtful responses i received several uh podcast interview

00:36:49.360 requests i was forwarded several articles and i just thought it was such an interesting difference

00:36:56.240 between like the the behavior that we see when you criticize the black community versus the

00:37:02.080 african immune community and i was honestly very impressed and you know i i did end up changing my

00:37:08.080 own opinion a little bit because i was you know shown some things like you know there are african

00:37:12.080 countries that have seen great development good for them i want all countries to be safe and

00:37:16.240 prosperous and i think it just goes to show that we don't need to accept this behavior from the 1.00

00:37:22.320 the black community. There's nothing intrinsic about, oh, I'm black, this is just how we do 1.00

00:37:26.080 things. No, you can conduct yourself to a higher standard of behaviour, and you should conduct

00:37:30.000 yourself to a higher standard of behaviour. It's such an important point because it's

00:37:33.840 a specific African-American community or black American community problem, and it wasn't always

00:37:38.320 the case. Black Americans used to be more integrated into American culture, just as

00:37:42.240 Caribbean black people in Britain, they're mostly Caribbean at least, are more integrated into

00:37:46.960 British culture. That has started to shift as Americanisation is coming over, and they're

00:37:50.720 They're adopting the hip-hop culture of America. 0.71

00:37:52.720 But you're right to point out that most African countries 0.80

00:37:54.900 look at African-Americans and think, 0.68

00:37:56.960 what the heck is wrong with them? 1.00

00:37:58.260 Like, they're looking down the nose at them

00:37:59.620 because they're not acting in a civil manner.

00:38:02.800 And it's actually kind of interesting.

00:38:04.360 Every now and then, I'll see on my timeline, 0.98

00:38:06.340 Black Twitter and African Twitter get into fights.

00:38:08.880 And there's definitely a lot of difference

00:38:11.560 in these two communities.

00:38:12.820 Which just goes to show it's not actually a race issue.

00:38:14.820 Like, we're not being racist.

00:38:15.680 We're addressing a demographic problem,

00:38:17.000 a cultural problem that needs to be addressed.

00:38:18.920 100 lauren it's been fantastic talking to you where can people find out you

00:38:24.040 learn more about you where's your show where can they go to tune in

00:38:26.680 well first off thank you so much for having me it's been a really fun chat i am on x instagram

00:38:33.180 facebook at the lauren chen if you'd like to see more of my streams or video content specifically

00:38:37.820 you can find me on rumble at lauren chen i'm also on uh twitch and kick those are my new things

00:38:43.660 streaming and uh but video content is also on x so basically i live on x that's probably the the

00:38:50.640 first place i would send you to if you do want to keep up with what i'm doing it's at the lauren

00:38:53.920 chen so are you doing video gaming or you're just using twitch and kick because they're just using

00:38:58.260 twitch and kick for live streams part of me is like wow i'd probably get a lot less hate and

00:39:04.680 controversy if i did just play video games um actually i say that but there's a there's quite

00:39:10.060 a bit of drama in the gaming community too. But yeah, it's just some of the biggest streamers

00:39:14.920 right now, Asmongold and Hassan Piker, they're on these platforms. They're kind of doing news

00:39:19.660 commentary shows anyway. It's interesting. It's kind of like a hybrid now.

00:39:23.200 Are you a gamer?

00:39:25.220 I used to be more so than I am now. I mean, now like with two little kids, unfortunately,

00:39:29.880 it's been quite a while since I've done anything like that. But my thing now is that I don't know

00:39:35.340 if you've ever watched gaming playthroughs, but you can watch those. You're watching someone else

00:39:39.500 play the games i used to be in the games industry a long time ago yeah so baldur's gate is the most

00:39:45.100 recent playthrough that i've started watching how old are your kids are they too young to game

00:39:48.720 oh yeah well i mean one's four and one is one so i mean the the games that we play are like you

00:39:55.680 know if if she's been good she'll get to like play the game where you kind of match the letters on

00:40:00.900 the tablet and things like that i'm introducing my nieces to mario kart at the moment so oh very

00:40:06.600 but i am excited for when we're going to be able to play stuff like that or even games when i was

00:40:11.160 younger carmen san diego i i played a lot of like there are educational games but still really fun

00:40:16.200 and so i'm trying to i'm actually trying to find versions online of 90s games that i can

00:40:20.680 install on computers now for when she gets older love it lauren chan thank you very much god bless

00:40:25.720 you you as well thank you oh my next guest is an old friend of mine it's canon brett murphy father

00:40:33.560 Brett, thank you for coming on. How are you? I'm well. Thank you for having me, Father

00:40:37.100 Calvin. It's like old times. It is like old times. It's been too long. I thought we'd

00:40:41.240 got to get Red Brett on here. People who don't know, you have a YouTube channel where you

00:40:46.440 basically lambast all things gay. You are an Orthodox Anglican. You push for men to 0.56

00:40:53.760 become men again and just Christians to become Christians again. You take a lot of stick

00:40:57.720 for it because people don't like that anymore. Yeah, I do. I take a lot of hits, but it's

00:41:03.560 And I've pretty much reached the wonderful point in my ministry where anyone who's a bit of a scumbag has weeded themselves out, which is awesome. 0.83

00:41:10.320 And yeah, the channel's grown well, and we've sort of gotten to this phase of, I wouldn't say pushing, but I guess promoting muscular Christianity, which is awesome. 0.79

00:41:19.900 Well, let's start with that, because you've started a new program called No Man Left Inside, where you're promoting masculinity within the church.

00:41:28.020 you're helping men become men again and you're teaching that we don't all have to be nice and

00:41:32.660 wet and lukewarm we can just be straightforward strong leaders and that's a good thing yes nice

00:41:39.720 is a vice kindness is a virtue amen you taught me that many years ago so no man left inside was

00:41:45.020 started by my friend james uh it's a really i think it's a visionary ideal to it started around

00:41:52.920 the idea of preventing male suicide so he's a veteran and he was touched by this horrendous

00:41:57.980 statistic that the number one killer of men in the uk now is taking their own lives which

00:42:02.820 i think should be like an alarm bell a wake-up call to anyone in our culture that something's

00:42:07.380 gone terribly wrong so um he thought that the best thing to do is to get men outside get them

00:42:13.740 in the company of other men because that's very frowned upon so it's great to be with brothers

00:42:18.060 and to do not just exercise and a bit of grappling,

00:42:22.980 a little bit of boxing, some physical stuff,

00:42:24.660 but also to bond together, which is brilliant.

00:42:27.040 And it's forming a kind of fraternity.

00:42:29.840 So it's based on Christian principles,

00:42:31.600 but it's open to absolutely anyone.

00:42:33.460 And we get loads of people who aren't Christian,

00:42:35.800 which is great, lovely blokes.

00:42:37.600 And we alternate once a week,

00:42:39.260 we go and do some pretty hard on,

00:42:41.920 like horrible, painful, awful exercise,

00:42:46.640 which, you know, makes me feel like I'm definitely well over 40 now.

00:42:52.720 It gets older.

00:42:53.720 20-something-year-old guys who are gym bros just running circles

00:42:56.520 around the Padre and punching me in the face, which is, you know,

00:42:59.740 because I'm slow as anything to dodge.

00:43:01.360 But they're hungry and thirsty for truth. 0.98

00:43:04.640 They're tired of being told that they're losers, 0.76

00:43:06.460 that it's wrong for them to want to spend time with other blokes,

00:43:09.160 that providing and protecting is part of their creation mandate.

00:43:13.700 So when they get a priest who's willing to be there with them,

00:43:16.640 He's willing to roll up his sleeves, and, you know, I get benefit out of it.

00:43:19.720 I want to exercise.

00:43:22.060 But, you know, there's something about, like St. Pope Benedict said,

00:43:27.860 that you should be a pastor that smells like your sheep.

00:43:33.800 With a connection, you know what I mean?

00:43:36.140 Yeah, no, I like that.

00:43:37.780 I feel like society has been pushing men apart for so long.

00:43:41.120 any men's spaces have been invaded by feminists feminists or feminists whatever you want to call

00:43:46.620 them and yeah it's been discouraged for men to associate with other men in a in a heterosexual 0.61

00:43:52.720 testosterone building way if you want to be in a gay club that's fine but if you want to be a

00:43:56.720 straight man with other straight men is that's discouraged um and i think it's good that you're

00:44:01.480 doing that we're doing something not an organized program like that but we do something similar to

00:44:05.180 that here at st paul's we often have uh cigars and pipes off the church or we'll go shooting

00:44:09.420 together and like this is what we need to build the t levels back up again after they've been

00:44:13.860 flooded with fluoride and chloride and all the and all the stuff they're putting in bread and

00:44:19.240 flour in the uk now say again they're apparently contaminating all our bread and flour without

00:44:24.720 our consent so they're doing the same thing as what the americans do yep madness utter madness

00:44:30.140 of course lowers your testosterone level so um it's it's interesting you know because it is just

00:44:35.020 it's, it's, it's unashamedly male. And like you said, there's, there's a lost art of male

00:44:40.360 friendship. So, you know, actually it's reminded me a long time ago when you and I were, were like

00:44:46.460 first becoming friends, a bunch of people in a certain denomination that neither us belong to 0.95

00:44:51.940 anymore used to joke that we were like, oh, Brett and Calvin are just fags. Look at them. 0.97

00:44:56.200 They're friends. Why can't you have a really good bloke as a friend? Why can't you have a David and

00:44:59.940 jonathan what why is that considered to be a laughing a a source of derision or scorn or to

00:45:06.820 be mocked no wonder guys feel alone and you think of churches like this i'll get me on a rant now

00:45:12.760 churches love to to address women but it's fine of course we should we have a ladies fellowship

00:45:17.400 at our church the women at our church would like you know eat feminists for breakfast right

00:45:21.840 but why can't men have that too and women find it much easier women love to get together they 1.00

00:45:27.660 have a nata they have a gossip they should be gossiping but they just naturally attracted to

00:45:31.680 each other and this is what women do comment my wife will watch this i could i would never call 0.65

00:45:37.440 miss mrs vicar a gossip but women do like an excuse to get together whereas men need an excuse

00:45:42.940 to get together that's the difference and so we have to purposefully intentionally do it

00:45:46.820 which is good that you're doing that another way that that's been done recently is of course the

00:45:50.860 unite the kingdom rally obviously a mixed rally but the whole point is getting christians together

00:45:54.780 and getting men out in the crowd you were there i believe you've been there for the last few

00:45:58.920 rallies how was it this year so it was smaller than the previous ones but uh in conversation

00:46:05.460 with some of the organizers actually i think we're of the like-minded that was actually better

00:46:10.040 it was getting to the point where it was kind of the previous one the one before this

00:46:14.920 i was almost in a crush and that was nobody's fault it's just you get a critical mass of human

00:46:20.160 beings in one place no matter how good-willed they are and then you get the sort of malicious

00:46:24.920 cops who are you know stirring things up and it almost made me think i don't i don't want to come

00:46:30.660 to these anymore or if i do i'll just go up to the stage and wait for the march i was a bit frightened

00:46:35.880 but um this one was way more manageable uh this time i was honored to be bishop kai's uh chaplain

00:46:42.700 so that was amazing um and just looking out for the big guy uh i mean he's you know couldn't lose

00:46:48.980 him he's a nephilim giant but um in purple too is a big purple man walking get out the way um so

00:46:58.140 there was a sense i think of a more of it was more controllable so the stewards and and that

00:47:04.480 therefore meant they could liaise with the cops more and i think there was a little there's a bit

00:47:09.180 of stuff at the end but there was less malicious intent from the cops this time despite all of

00:47:13.960 Starmer's rhetoric in the lead up you know he really went overboard on the propaganda

00:47:18.040 and there was I think in my estimation and I'm relying on a lot of my evangelists who I sent

00:47:26.940 out into the crowd because I was backstage for most of this one there was a sense that

00:47:33.080 the Christian ethos had increased maybe not even from up the front that's could have been

00:47:40.440 consistent for a while but among the punters there was far more receptiveness to the gospel

00:47:47.740 of jesus christ and far more acknowledgement that we're not going to get a political way out of this

00:47:53.120 we need a spiritual awakening something bigger but i've seen the established church the state 0.91

00:47:59.520 church talking this whole thing down and uh trying to say it was all hate and retarded church right 0.87

00:48:04.840 they were saying it's all hateful people pushing divisions like literally no one there was talking 0.93

00:48:10.000 about anything hateful no one was dividing anyone other than brits versus non-brits and even then

00:48:15.040 there were foreigners on stage talking about how important patriotism is it was clearly a patriotic

00:48:20.460 uniting event i have my criticisms of it but the the positives far outweigh the cons it's hard for

00:48:28.200 me to see an established state church not want to be actively involved if people are coming to christ

00:48:32.980 it's a challenging one you know so there were there were sort of two instances in this there

00:48:39.160 was a big day they always are as you know you've been to plenty of them they're they could you end

00:48:43.020 up absolutely exhausted by the end of it but there were two instances out of you know a 12-hour day

00:48:48.400 that really stuck out to me so the first was the cov claimed that they had listening stations set 0.96

00:48:55.540 up which is such a lefty wet gay thing to do you know like oh do you want a safe space do you want 0.90

00:49:02.420 to come have a cry like just suck it up um and they sort of positioned woke clergy to sit there 0.99

00:49:09.620 and listen to the concerns of the patriots because i think someone in the church of england somewhere

00:49:14.520 has realized oh wait a minute there's quiet revivals leaving us behind oops oh look tommy

00:49:22.680 robinson has a rally and it gets like prominent christians there and then people are handing out

00:49:27.100 gospel tracts like sweeties and everyone's taking oh maybe we should be a part of that but of course 0.99

00:49:31.500 couldn't bring themselves to participate in any way so they had to set up these stupid little 0.94

00:49:35.700 trestle tables now i and none of my team saw them where they were i do not know they took some nice 0.61

00:49:41.140 photos of them for church times i didn't see them so that was the first thing where i thought

00:49:45.420 the sea of these trying to sort of try and get on the side of this but without touching it it's like

00:49:50.400 holding their nose but then the second instance was a very personal one so i was on my way out

00:49:55.060 i had to leave a bit early because i live up in the sticks and i don't want to miss the last train

00:49:59.980 Yeah, I don't live in the middle of nowhere.

00:50:01.580 God bless Morecambe. 1.00

00:50:03.740 And there's pleasantly few Mohammedans here. 1.00

00:50:06.540 So I was on my way out with my team and they pulled ahead of me towards our route out, 1.00

00:50:12.000 our extraction route. 0.99

00:50:13.020 And I saw a priestess standing on the sidelines off to the side of the rally.

00:50:19.040 And she was just looking with his look at scorn.

00:50:20.680 So I beelined to her and I had a little chat, as I do. 0.99

00:50:24.760 And she was so full of hate. 0.88

00:50:27.260 You know, the only hateful person I spoke to that day was her. 0.98

00:50:30.260 And she was just ranting about how I was disgusting for being here with these people. 0.97

00:50:35.820 These people are the problem with the United Kingdom. 0.97

00:50:39.540 These people who have turned up here with their flags and with their fake patriotism. 1.00

00:50:44.000 And she was on about how St. George was, you know, Turkish and all this garbage. 0.98

00:50:48.280 The typical, you know, leftist tropes. 0.99

00:50:51.420 And so I actually one-shot her. 0.79

00:50:53.980 I just literally obliterated her. 1.00

00:50:56.720 And, yeah, I just punched you in the face. 0.99

00:50:57.920 No, I didn't really.

00:50:59.160 Please don't call the police.

00:51:00.620 So not again.

00:51:02.640 So I just said to this lady, I said, listen,

00:51:06.540 if you really believe these people are that bad,

00:51:09.820 like the way she was describing it, 1.00

00:51:11.360 she thought they were the scum of the earth. 0.99

00:51:14.180 Don't you think they need the gospel of Jesus Christ 0.99

00:51:16.780 more than anyone else?

00:51:19.020 And she just looked at me point blank and she said, no.

00:51:23.500 I was like, and that there is a portrait of the Church of England.

00:51:26.360 so interesting isn't it that these people are always the thing that they accuse us of they are

00:51:31.120 hateful they hate what we stand for but they can't see it there's no self-awareness and so you can

00:51:36.020 point out your whole job is to bring the gospel to people and bring people to the church and if

00:51:40.980 you're saying these people are unworthy then you're not a true shepherd i find the whole listening

00:51:45.720 station thing fascinating because to me it says that on some level they do understand that there

00:51:50.760 is a whole cohort of people that they they cannot relate to they the whole we need to listen let's

00:51:55.700 find out what it like they're so disconnected they can't see the average brit is disenfranchised

00:52:00.800 from the political system feeling like they're being replaced struggling to put food on the

00:52:05.160 table like going through a hard time they can't get that because they're all this upper middle

00:52:10.020 class metropolitan liberal elite who's like you know we have our tea club and that's what we do

00:52:14.500 like church to them is something different to what church should be it is being with these people like

00:52:19.280 you were on the ground loving them hearing their stories not listening let's do some active

00:52:24.200 listening but listening just being there with them as a person for goodness sake and and the

00:52:29.520 one other thing i want to i want to point out is that they keep saying that christianity is being

00:52:33.660 co-opted just as you said this woman said they're they're not real patriots like it's always they're

00:52:38.580 not the real christians they're not the real patriots well why because they're not like them

00:52:42.320 like they must think they are the perfect christian the perfect patriot if everyone else is a fake one

00:52:47.080 anyone who agrees who doesn't agree with them they cannot fathom their their worldview at all

00:52:53.500 and they inherently believe that we are fundamentally wrong and so I've recently I

00:52:59.360 had a discussion with a feminist lefty in Lancaster when I went of all times I went to the tobacco

00:53:04.620 store you know I just wanted to buy some baccy and have a peaceful existence and I got recognized by 0.64

00:53:10.460 this rabid feminist and she was up for an argument and I always are you know I just wanted to buy 1.00

00:53:17.060 some you know coffee cherry tobacco and be left alone like you know come on leave me be um so she 1.00

00:53:23.220 was up for a fight and she was very antagonistic and and her the entire crux of her argument was 0.94

00:53:29.140 basically that i just shouldn't exist i just should not exist and and whereas i asked her

00:53:34.980 where's the end game of what you believe it's deleting me that's where it ends but the more

00:53:44.580 crazy of them that's what they literally do they that's what they did to charlie kirk they will try

00:53:48.260 and delete us and you know the the pro-palestine lunatics they were chanting about tommy robinson 0.94

00:53:55.460 uh you know basically kill him like charlie kirk and the cops did nothing absolutely nothing just 0.89

00:54:00.980 ignored it but a kid turned up and he had a f islam christ is king placard which is based and

00:54:08.100 he got arrested for it so you can you can criticize you can have a placard that criticizes

00:54:12.260 a religion, not a race, a religion, arrested. You can literally call for the lynching and

00:54:17.740 death of somebody. It's fine. 1.00

00:54:20.300 It's disgusting. But on the positive, do you feel like there is a Christian revival happening 1.00

00:54:25.000 in Britain? And if so, are you seeing the results of it? What does it look like on the

00:54:28.600 ground? What's going on?

00:54:30.700 It's hardcore. It's full on masculine Christianity. It's excruciating holiness. So one of the 0.99

00:54:38.740 things which we have experienced in my little church plant is that increasingly the Holy Spirit

00:54:44.180 has sanctified me as a priest to be less and less tolerant of sin and to set the standards really

00:54:51.020 high. And the congregation are lapping it up and lifting their game. And people are saying,

00:54:57.940 we do not want coffee shop Christianity. We don't want jumble sale Christianity. We don't want,

00:55:04.280 you know, basically a woke therapy session sitting in a circle talking about our feelings.

00:55:08.740 we want the bible to cut into our hearts we want it to be the living and active word that's a

00:55:14.020 double-edged sword we want a priest who never backs down uh and if you don't like it don't

00:55:20.960 come to our church and we're seeing that we're seeing that across all the conservative churches

00:55:25.940 that are being raised up by god in the uk right now the middle of the road churches i call them

00:55:31.660 the lukewarm churches like a lot of say fiec very culturally evangelical they've strong on the bible

00:55:38.840 they don't want to rock the boat with the culture they're getting some limited growth but it's not

00:55:42.960 sticking very much and then the woke churches they're just dying they're just it is literally

00:55:48.560 jesus with his winnowing fork he's just like wheat from chaff this is the hour and it's beautiful i

00:55:55.420 mean i'm maybe reveling in it a little too much but it's beautiful to see am i like i could tell

00:55:59.280 a microcosm of it at my church so we're reaping a harvest of young men the young men are bringing

00:56:06.120 their wives and children which is what mission stats have told us for 20 years you win the men

00:56:10.800 90 of the time you win the woman and the kids and i like here's just one little story wonderful

00:56:16.080 young man came to church said he was very spiritual not religious i said that won't fly here

00:56:20.900 he hung around he studied the bible he committed his life to christ he is pursuing holiness and

00:56:28.960 he now reads the bible to his daughters his sweet little daughters every single night before bed and

00:56:35.800 now his daughters are taking the bible into the secular school and begging the teachers to read 0.71

00:56:39.980 the word of god to the other kiddies thank god boom that's revival this is it people need challenge

00:56:45.900 just as children need discipline like we are all children of god we also need discipline

00:56:50.840 and that means you know a woke nice church perhaps would have told that guy yes being

00:56:56.460 spiritual is enough like leave you where you are we don't need leaving where we are we need dragging

00:57:02.220 up towards christ correct you know i gave a billy graham mate remember his great phrase he is famous

00:57:09.100 for saying god loves you too much to leave you as you are it's my favorite quotes he doesn't just

00:57:13.980 leave you in sin if you come to christ he will sanctify you but he will call upon you to contribute

00:57:19.900 to your sanctification in some measure although of course the holy spirit is the sovereign lord

00:57:24.140 but he will want you to literally roll up your sleeves to get in the mud and to wrestle with

00:57:29.420 your sin and to win. That's Christianity. As we're recording this, Sunday just gone,

00:57:36.160 I was preaching on this because I was saying, you know, this is what happens in a nice church

00:57:40.360 is you get affirmed in your sin or you just get left where you are comfortable. But that's not

00:57:44.280 what this is about. When was the last time you heard something in church that really challenged

00:57:48.460 you? Do you hear every week some, you know, things that you already believe in? Because

00:57:52.760 that's not what I'm here to do. I'm not here to affirm you on things that you already think you

00:57:55.580 know. I'm here to teach you the truth of the gospel. It is challenging, and there should be

00:57:59.400 things in there that you are uncomfortable with, and we need to get to learn to be comfortable

00:58:03.520 with them. But I'm not here to pat you on the back and say you're already good enough. None of us are

00:58:07.280 good enough, and that's the point of the faith. It is. You reminded me of my old mentor, Father

00:58:13.240 Phil. He was a wonderful old fellow, and he used to say, in a very sort of dry humor, he'd say,

00:58:18.780 boy never preach a sermon where you leave them without a challenge make them sweat in the pew

00:58:23.940 i was like that's the way yeah and some people wouldn't like it the wheat from the chaff some

00:58:28.600 people the lips will leave because they just want to be patted on the back they just want to be

00:58:31.840 heard they're good people but we're not good people we're trying to become good people and

00:58:35.980 that's the challenge of christianity repent of our sins and embrace christ if we were good people we

00:58:41.280 wouldn't need jesus and these people i don't think they believe they do need jesus i think they make

00:58:47.080 came up in their heads uh leave us with some good news rev brett where can people find you what are

00:58:52.300 you working on and what can you be helping people look forward to oh that's very positive i love it

00:58:58.300 positivity rightio so you can find me anywhere online at rev brett murphy so if you just look

00:59:05.220 me up facebook insta youtube you find me there um i'm gonna launch in the next few weeks uh lord

00:59:13.460 willing, an online fellowship group because people have been begging me for it. And I've

00:59:19.380 been dragging my heels with it because my schedule is very full. But I think it's worth

00:59:23.740 providing a space for people who can't get to a good church yet. And good churches are

00:59:28.920 coming. I just want to encourage people with that. We have church plants in store. We're

00:59:32.500 working on it. So don't lose hope. We will win the nation back. We will retake churches

00:59:40.020 that have been lost we will plant churches don't it might not happen overnight i want to encourage

00:59:44.420 people with that you know naturally we all want quick change we all want a quick return to

00:59:50.420 christendom of course we do who doesn't if you're a born again christian of course you do but be

00:59:55.300 patient and pray and in the meantime i'll do that and for the folks who diligently tune in to our

01:00:02.100 worship at emmanuel church bless them we were upgrading the cameras the laptop and the mics

01:00:07.300 again and i've got to give a shout out to my man ken he is our it guy he's like a wizard you're

01:00:13.560 blessed to have an it guy blessed are the the pastors with an it guy and ken is awesome so

01:00:18.740 he's doing major league upgrades so it should be absolutely awesome and oh one last thing if i may

01:00:24.380 father there's a little conference i'm hosting in august at my church so folks want to come in here

01:00:31.180 like all the good guys talk about all the awesome stuff is this the one with aaron edwards

01:00:35.800 that's the one yeah yes yes it looks great what's it called when's the date how can people get

01:00:41.140 tickets 23rd 24th of august is called the make great britain christian again conference if you

01:00:46.660 head to zephy.com and you search for make great christian great britain christian again you'll

01:00:52.300 likely find it but if you keep your eyes on my socials i'm going to push it again

01:00:55.520 and um i think we've got about a quarter of the tickets left my church wardens are like you need

01:01:01.700 to therapy why are you trying to pack 200 people in this church are you insane but i'm like let's

01:01:05.800 do it i love it that's a good note to end on because that's what we need to do we need to

01:01:09.620 make great britain christian again i'll mention that god bless you in all your work rev canon

01:01:14.560 brett murphy thank you for coming on thank you father calvin thank you very much for watching

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01:01:31.100 Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit. Amen. O Lord God Almighty, who didst endue thy

01:01:37.280 holy apostle Barnabas with singular gifts of the Holy Spirit, leave us not, we beseech thee,

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01:01:50.480 Through Jesus Christ, thy Son, our Lord, who liveth and reigneth with thee in the unity of

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The Next Crusade - The Real Reason McDonald's Is Locking Up the Soda Machines

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