The NXR Podcast - The Next Crusade - When Preaching Becomes A Crime

00:00:00.000 I do not seek glory.

00:00:03.000 I do not fight for honor.

00:00:05.000 I fight because it must be done.

00:00:08.000 This is not a war for trophies or banners.

00:00:12.000 This is a war for the soul of mankind.

00:00:15.000 Because even should I fall,

00:00:18.000 even should the blood stop flowing

00:00:21.000 and my breath fade,

00:00:23.000 even in death,

00:00:25.000 I crusade.

00:00:30.000 hello and welcome to the next crusade you guys have been asking for the common sense crusade

00:00:53.440 to return and here it is this the next crusade with nxr studios we are part of the new

00:00:59.760 christian right you can check out their youtube channel nxr studios for more great sound christian

00:01:07.020 videos on this show as ever we'll be discussing cultural events from a christian perspective

00:01:13.000 what's going on in the world and the topics the mainstream media does not want to touch with a

00:01:17.540 10-foot barge pole we'll be addressing them head on with through the eyes through the lens of the

00:01:23.060 christian faith coming up today we've got father navarro father martin navarro will be talking to

00:01:28.520 us about Easter, because of course it is still Eastertide, and Callum Smiles will be coming

00:01:34.160 on to talk about the IDF destroying a statue of Christ at Easter. Related topics, relevant

00:01:41.860 topics, very Christian topics, and of course we are looking at them through the facts and

00:01:47.120 lens of a Christian faith. Now, before we get to any of that, I'd like to discuss back

00:01:52.940 in Blighty. What's going on in my homeland? What's happening in Great Britain this week?

00:01:59.180 It seems that every single day so far this week we've heard a news article of something dark,

00:02:07.300 something malicious coming out of either the legacy media or the government. And of course

00:02:13.060 this is an independent media platform so we have the voice of free speech. We will be able to talk

00:02:17.860 about these things in a way that the legacy media or the mainstream media does not and cannot

00:02:22.700 for serious reasons that we'll get to later.

00:02:25.880 But let's start off with story number one.

00:02:28.440 Half of young people would not fight for Britain.

00:02:32.300 This was published in the Daily Telegraph,

00:02:34.360 and for full disclosure, I used to write for the Telegraph

00:02:36.880 on a daily basis back in the day

00:02:38.540 when it used to be considered a conservative newspaper.

00:02:43.000 Today, it's more liberal, like all of the legacy media.

00:02:47.300 But this article caught my attention

00:02:49.220 because half of young people will not fight for Britain.

00:02:52.700 is quite a serious headline. What does that mean about the state of Britain? Firstly this is

00:02:58.640 interesting in that they keep polling on this topic. This is not the first article of this type

00:03:02.980 that we've seen recently and there are rumours that conscription could come back. Why? Probably

00:03:10.100 to do with Russia and the Ukraine but also possibly to do with Israel and Palestine and Iran. It seems

00:03:17.220 that the UK government is looking at options of entering wars that have nothing to do with us.

00:03:22.700 And of course, as you know, on this channel, I am not a neocon.

00:03:25.880 I am a Christian nationalist.

00:03:28.280 I believe in putting our own people first and then helping our neighbour.

00:03:31.600 I don't believe in foreign intervention and going to war for other people.

00:03:34.600 And as a Christian, I believe in just war.

00:03:36.440 So the right to self-defence is important.

00:03:39.420 But when we are the instigator and or it's not even a part of our,

00:03:44.180 it's not even a war that has anything to do with us,

00:03:46.180 then that's a concern that we should all be facing.

00:03:48.500 But if the UK government is saying we're looking at conscription,

00:03:52.040 we're looking at boots on the ground, we're looking at getting involved in foreign wars,

00:03:56.000 at the same time as they're polling people to see the level of interest, and then one of these polls

00:04:01.160 says that half of young people would never fight for Britain. Never fight for Britain. What does

00:04:06.200 that tell us about the state of Britain? Firstly, I would say a large number of the people being

00:04:11.780 polled are probably not even British. If you're asking young people in general in Britain today,

00:04:20.080 you're not going to get 100% British people because the vast majority of immigrants are of 0.99

00:04:26.660 the younger generations at this point and so if you're asking young people at random the chances 0.87

00:04:32.080 of getting a Briton an ethnically British person are quite slim so maybe that's something to do

00:04:36.760 with it people don't want to fight for a foreign country either whether that means Britain's going

00:04:42.300 to the Ukraine or Palestine or whether that means foreigners who've come to Britain don't want to

00:04:47.200 fight for us. And secondly, those who are British don't want to fight for their replacement. 0.95

00:04:55.440 We've had mass migration into our country over the last 70 years, really, but ramping up since 0.98

00:05:01.820 2019, since the Boris wave, since the Conservative government finished the job that Tony Blair and

00:05:07.040 the Labour government started. And so people are noticing that they are being replaced by,

00:05:12.160 you know the current demographic data shows that by 2060 Britons will no longer be a majority

00:05:18.060 people in Britain so Britain will no longer be British within our lifetimes unless something

00:05:22.940 radical changes today but knowing that that shows that people are aware I mean you have to look 0.98

00:05:28.420 around in any major city to see that white Britons and Christians are a minority already but they 0.95

00:05:33.400 will be a minority across the entire country very soon but you only have to look around to see that 0.92

00:05:37.900 you are being replaced as a people's. And so do you want to fight for the people who are replacing 0.98

00:05:43.520 you? That's the question that will be in people's minds when they are appalled and asked, would you

00:05:48.240 fight for Britain? And the answer has clearly been, and consistently been, they would never

00:05:53.020 fight for Britain. And on top of those two reasons, we also have a very weak king. We have a weak king

00:05:59.720 who doesn't seem to represent Britain. The point of the monarchy, or one of the points of the monarchy,

00:06:04.540 is to be a living embodiment of the nation so much like you know look around the world people

00:06:09.560 have different ideas of their of an embodiment of their nation the americans is a good example

00:06:14.180 they have their flag right they pledge an allegiance to their flag their flag is a is a

00:06:18.200 static symbol of their nation in britain we have a living symbol of our nation in our monarchy he's

00:06:24.020 supposed to represent us as a people and when it seems that he is working for different interests

00:06:30.320 and or not bothered about our interests that shows a weakness that people can't subscribe to.

00:06:36.560 And only look over the last couple of months.

00:06:39.180 Obviously, we've just had the Easter Vigil and Easter Sunday,

00:06:42.900 the biggest holiday in the Christian calendar,

00:06:44.800 and His Majesty the King did not want to make a statement this year.

00:06:48.580 Even though he's been releasing Easter messages since, what, 2018?

00:06:52.020 This year, he didn't feel like it.

00:06:53.540 But he did make a statement for Ramadan and for Eid. 0.57

00:06:55.980 He has had Mohammedans in the castle of Westminster, in the palace of Westminster, and in his own personal palace of Windsor. 0.91

00:07:05.400 And he's had them in, building iftar boxes and putting dates into packages for Eid. 0.99

00:07:13.540 Silly things that a Christian king should never be partaking in. 0.94

00:07:16.800 Now, you don't have to offend people of other faiths, but you cannot as a Christian support other faiths. 0.94

00:07:22.680 you that's pluralism which leads to universalism this idea that everyone gets to heaven regardless

00:07:27.220 of who you worship and what faith you have which is untrue it's a heresy in the Christian faith

00:07:31.640 we believe there is one way to heaven Jesus Christ there's one way to the father Jesus Christ

00:07:35.820 there is a narrow gate and we must enter through the narrow gate which means we cannot at any time

00:07:42.520 suggest that any other religion is legitimate because we are taught that it isn't and so if

00:07:48.320 we love our neighbor we want them to get to heaven if we want them to get to heaven we want them to

00:07:52.040 of the truth who is Jesus Christ the king has not been doing that let's not forget the king

00:07:56.560 his majesty the king Charles III is the supreme governor of the church of England so it's his

00:08:03.460 responsibility not just as a monarch but as a leader of a church so to speak to bring people

00:08:09.080 into the faith so he's been seen as weak and then the government the UK government has been seen as

00:08:14.120 quite treacherous as of late which we'll get to in a couple of other stories coming up but the point

00:08:18.560 here is that if the king is weak the government is treacherous people are being replaced and

00:08:25.500 people don't want to fight for foreign wars why would young people say yes I'm okay with going

00:08:31.540 to fight for Britain it's a shame I love my country personally as a Briton I would fight for

00:08:37.040 Britain but I would not fight for my replacement and I would not fight what foreign wars I don't

00:08:42.340 care about well not that I don't care about but it's not my primary interest what happens in the

00:08:47.200 Middle East and or on the edges of Russia. Nor should it be in our government's interests or

00:08:53.680 our monarchs' interests. So to wrap up that segment, the idea would be to make Britain

00:08:58.780 British again and then perhaps ask the young people if they would be willing to fight for

00:09:05.000 Britain. In this next story, touching on the subject of our treacherous government, we have

00:09:14.600 a case of a preacher being threatened with arrest for preaching let's have a look at the video and

00:09:21.020 see what's going on if you are reckless as to the effect that they could have on patients staff

00:09:27.500 or any protected person then you may be committing an offense what i'm saying to you is that is an

00:09:33.360 incredible thought because what you're saying is that the word of god which this country has had

00:09:37.900 free to proclaim and read and share for hundreds of years freedom to magna carta suddenly could

00:09:44.300 become offensive because it's

00:09:46.200 outside a hospital where I think people

00:09:47.960 who are sick, people who are listening to you

00:09:50.240 and the ones who are wrong

00:09:51.820 I've really challenged you

00:09:53.440 I've really challenged you on the fact that

00:09:56.140 I'm sharing good news about

00:09:58.300 Jesus, cause anyone any

00:10:00.240 offended, if they're offended

00:10:01.400 it's because they're offended

00:10:04.200 against the Lord

00:10:05.300 and there is

00:10:07.800 an area in the hospital

00:10:09.940 chaplaincy, a safe area

00:10:11.920 an area for people to

00:10:13.960 if they wish somebody to give them religious guidance or comfort or help that they could

00:10:19.140 ask you to go and you could go in and do that but while you're out here in the safe access zone

00:10:24.800 any act in that area which may

00:10:28.640 dissuade any protected person from availing of services harassment or cause them distress

00:10:36.180 is an offence. So if people take offence, it could be an offence. That's not how the law works.

00:10:45.880 If someone is offended, that doesn't make it a criminal offence. I know the words are similar,

00:10:49.520 but that's as far as it goes. The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland is still

00:10:56.220 a Christian country, right? So our common law system, since the Magna Carta has been based

00:11:03.940 on the Ten Commandments. Our judiciary, our legislature, our monarchy are all explicitly

00:11:11.200 Christian, not just implicitly Christian like in other countries. They are explicitly Christian

00:11:15.020 with a state church, an established church of England. And somehow a police officer serving 0.95

00:11:24.140 within that Christian realm is implying that it may be at some point illegal to preach the

00:11:31.820 Christian faith for a Christian preacher to preach the Christian faith just let your head get around

00:11:36.360 that for a moment because what they're saying is if someone else of another faith comes by hears you

00:11:42.800 and sees you and takes offense to what you're saying you can be arrested for causing offense

00:11:47.900 so if you're a Mohammedan if you're a Sikh if you're a Jew if you're a Buddhist and you hear

00:11:53.680 a Christian preacher preaching you could say I find that offensive what they're saying and you 0.70

00:11:57.540 very well may because the Christian faith is offensive it is supposed to be offensive to the 0.77

00:12:01.900 world because it's saying that everything else is a lie everything else is untrue this is the one

00:12:07.080 true way because we believe in one true living God as I highlighted in the in the previous segment

00:12:12.100 we're not pluralists we don't believe in multiple gods we're not universalists we don't believe that

00:12:16.980 everyone gets to heaven we are Christians which who believe in one way Jesus Christ as the way

00:12:24.480 the truth and the life and so if you are hearing that as someone who's not in the church who's not

00:12:29.580 a baptized member of the body of Christ who hasn't been gifted faith the gift of faith from the Holy

00:12:35.840 Spirit you will take offense quite possibly most probably therefore the police officer can arrest

00:12:42.660 you for causing offense I know it sounds authoritarian I know it sounds communist 0.77

00:12:47.020 and that's because it is it's because we live in a country where the predominant faith well it was

00:12:53.440 the predominant faith for over a thousand years. I don't know if it is anymore, but for the first

00:12:57.420 time in our country's history, Christianity is no longer the majority of faith. I think atheism,

00:13:01.680 agnosticism are taking over, but regardless of that, it's still a Christian country, and the

00:13:07.000 predominant faith is now seen as a negative, whereas every other faith is seen as something

00:13:12.020 to promote, and that's diversity for you. That's the new religion of diversity, equality, and

00:13:18.380 inclusion or equity and inclusion which is of the devil this is egalitarian it's marxism it is all

00:13:25.960 from the same toolbox of satan that it's things that sound nice but aren't good and we should

00:13:32.980 always watch out for those things because here it's inferred that the gospel is only allowed to

00:13:38.280 be preached in safe spaces now what's a safe space a space where somebody won't be offended

00:13:44.800 which is probably a space where somebody won't hear it unless they already know it and what

00:13:51.220 he's saying there pretty much is you can preach in the chapel go preach in the chapel that's a

00:13:56.240 safe space where no one will hear you other than the christians who are already with you which is

00:14:01.600 good it is good to preach to christians but our job is to proclaim the gospel to the nations to

00:14:07.160 disciple the nations to go forth and multiply and yes that in one in one sense that means have

00:14:12.460 families in the other sense it means bring more people into the family of the body of christ of

00:14:17.820 the church of christ's bride and we can't do that if we're not allowed to speak the gospel publicly

00:14:23.660 the whole point of free speech is to have the freedom to proclaim the gospel that is it our

00:14:28.700 rights do not come from the government they are not gifted to us by the government therefore they

00:14:32.300 shouldn't be able to be taken away from us by the government our rights are gifted to us by

00:14:35.980 god for a purpose the right to life is part of that going forth and multiplying it is part of

00:14:41.580 that advancing the kingdom and creating more christian souls to worship the one true living

00:14:47.500 christian god the right to free speech is so that we can proclaim his gospel send forth his good

00:14:53.180 news these are the reasons we have these rights they are not inalienable in the sense of coming

00:14:58.700 from the united nations or from nato or from our own governments they are only inalienable

00:15:05.260 in that they come from our god and so when the police officer says you may be committing an

00:15:12.540 offense let's see where that goes i know many people at this point unfortunately who have been

00:15:17.420 arrested by the police in britain for preaching and we'll get to those people at some point and

00:15:21.740 we'll have them on the show to give their testimony but it should not be the case ever

00:15:25.820 in a christian country that you can be arrested for being a christian we need to restore our

00:15:31.660 christian country if you ask me now the next story is also i need to get some good news stories

00:15:39.000 coming out of britain because all the stories this week are so negative but this is the state

00:15:43.880 of the country right now this next story is big brother is watching you let's have a look at this

00:15:48.320 this article here let's see the headline here big brother is watching you this is the nanny state

00:15:54.560 the police state the idea that the government is here to control you not to serve you and the

00:16:01.000 headline reads facial recognition to be rolled out across the uk after human rights challenge fails

00:16:06.680 so they're trying to push facial recognition across the country and they were taking to court

00:16:13.500 on a human rights basis something that i figured actually they would win because human rights

00:16:18.220 lawyers are quite big in europe and britain um but in this case they lost and so our governments

00:16:24.440 can now install facial recognition cameras across the country meaning they can see you everywhere

00:16:30.380 recognize you everywhere monitor you track you and they'll have data on you at all times in all

00:16:38.740 places how scary is that and people say oh if you're doing nothing wrong there's nothing to

00:16:42.460 worry about that's always the argument from the liberals but it's not a good argument at all

00:16:47.180 because doing something wrong changes during covid it was wrong to suggest that the so-called

00:16:55.720 pandemic started in a lab in Wuhan you could be banned from X from Facebook from Instagram from

00:17:02.340 YouTube for even suggesting that fast forward to today we know that to be true we know that to be 0.82

00:17:07.000 the case that it was a manufactured virus from a lab in Wuhan but it was wrong to say it at the time 0.55

00:17:12.540 and therefore you could have been in trouble we've got we know people who are arrested we know people

00:17:18.040 who are still being arrested for saying things on social media that are seen as wrong if you are

00:17:21.700 tract everywhere when you're around the country and you do something that the government does not

00:17:25.940 like, what are the consequences of that going to be? It's pretty much like what we see in communist

00:17:30.940 China, right? They have a social credit system. And so if you criticize the government, you'll

00:17:35.680 get a knock on the door. It may be a threat. They may take you away. You may be abducted and never

00:17:39.960 seen again. That's not a country I want to live in. I don't want to have an authoritarian communist

00:17:46.620 government who dictates what we can say and what we can think. And it is getting to the point of

00:17:50.840 what we can think obviously Lucy Connelly was arrested for what she said when she put out a

00:17:55.360 tweet about the mass immigration that she was against she got arrested for that she went to

00:18:00.500 jail for that but other people have been arrested for what they've thought my friend friend Isabel

00:18:04.840 Vaughan Spruce was arrested for standing silently like this praying in her own head and she was

00:18:10.760 arrested for that thought crime and charged and she managed to get a settlement from the police

00:18:16.120 an apology but they arrested her again and so we're living in a time where the police and the

00:18:21.560 government have in the judiciary all have too much control and they're all liberal in the

00:18:26.000 institutional sense maybe not in the individual sense but that's a very dangerous precedent to

00:18:31.840 set that the state can now also have facial recognition to recognize you wherever you are

00:18:37.620 and truck you i don't want that i think we should fight against that and i know there have been

00:18:41.840 people fighting against the ules and this is another one i've got to be careful what i say

00:18:45.760 here because my friend is still in the courts to this day for saying that people should take down

00:18:52.940 the EULES cameras that track your car. And there are people that, it's like a guerrilla warfare,

00:18:58.840 there are people that dress as ninjas in the pitch black of the night, go out and take down

00:19:04.920 these cameras that track you. And again, I've got to be careful what I say because if I promote

00:19:10.180 this I could be arrested but all I'm saying is I don't think these cameras are moral I don't think

00:19:16.140 they're ethical rather I don't think they're licit they are legal at the moment according to the

00:19:21.700 communist authoritarian government but they shouldn't be and we should fight back as best we

00:19:26.080 can now our final story today on Great Britain is there is no freedom in the UK grown men adults

00:19:37.820 well men and women who were born after a certain date will no longer be able to do the things that

00:19:44.860 adults born prior to that date can do. The UK government has said that if you are born after

00:19:52.320 2008 you will never be allowed to buy cigarettes. There's a lifetime smoking ban for anyone born

00:20:02.080 after 2008.

00:20:04.380 Like, what?

00:20:05.580 So if you were born in 2007,

00:20:08.300 when you reach the legal age,

00:20:10.240 which I think used to be 15,

00:20:11.420 and then it went up to 18,

00:20:13.760 and obviously now it's going to go up every year,

00:20:15.660 but when you reach a legal age,

00:20:17.640 you can buy cigarettes.

00:20:18.820 You can choose to smoke if you want to,

00:20:21.420 or not.

00:20:23.800 Obviously, cigarettes were propagandized massively

00:20:26.480 for years,

00:20:27.440 and they had doctors coming on saying,

00:20:28.660 they're great, blah, blah, blah,

00:20:29.960 buy them,

00:20:30.720 and then that's all been reversed

00:20:32.080 and we've been propagandized against them.

00:20:34.760 There was the smoking ban in public

00:20:36.040 that you couldn't smoke in any public venue.

00:20:38.780 Whereas, showing my age here,

00:20:40.340 but when I was growing up,

00:20:41.020 there were smoking zones.

00:20:42.180 Like there was a smoking area

00:20:43.200 that you could smoke in in a restaurant

00:20:44.500 and you went to a nightclub

00:20:45.660 and people were smoking there.

00:20:46.920 People are used to smoke in pubs.

00:20:48.300 All that went,

00:20:50.080 in my teenage years,

00:20:50.980 they got rid of all that.

00:20:52.500 And then they've been pushing the age limits

00:20:55.440 so that now I am always going to be allowed

00:20:58.160 to buy cigarettes because I'm of age.

00:20:59.720 I'm an adult.

00:21:00.720 but people who become adults that were born after 2008 won't have the same rights that I have.

00:21:06.860 That is a two-tiered legal system. Either adults have a right to do something or they don't. Either

00:21:12.340 adults are allowed under the law to do something or they're not. This is a very dangerous precedent

00:21:16.600 to say that people who born after a certain date aren't allowed to do something that we dislike,

00:21:22.380 because you can already think about how that could be used in the future for other things.

00:21:26.800 it's once again an example of boomers pulling up the ladder behind them it's not great in a

00:21:34.020 so-called free country and people have been tweeting me and saying things along the lines of 0.84

00:21:37.820 why what's the agenda here well people are asking is is it is it possible that nicotine is good for

00:21:45.960 you in some way shape or form and again i'm not here to promote nicotine but there is the suggestion

00:21:50.800 that it raises testosterone levels and so in a time where testosterone levels are plummeting

00:21:58.740 rapidly at a time where governments are pushing fluoride and other chemicals into your water

00:22:04.000 as well as estrogen and obviously our water is full of feminine female chemicals from the pill

00:22:11.180 at a time when we're being poisoned to a degree that our bodies are lacking the natural levels

00:22:18.800 of hormones that we are used to in men and women. They're stopping us from using things

00:22:23.560 that help improve that, that boost that. And nicotine is something that has a positive

00:22:28.100 impact on testosterone. Fluoride in the water, as well as other things, have a negative impact

00:22:32.060 on testosterone. So they are literally effeminizing us on the one hand and making it illegal for

00:22:38.900 us to address that ourselves. Interesting times, scary times. We've got our first guest

00:22:46.480 coming up very shortly father martin navarro but before we get to that let's have let's have a

00:22:51.360 prayer break let's stop for the collect for peace in the name of the father and of the son of the

00:22:57.800 spirit amen oh god who art the author of peace and lover of concord in knowledge of whom standeth

00:23:04.600 our eternal life whose service is perfect freedom defend us thy humble servants in all assaults of

00:23:10.380 our enemies that we surely trusting in thy defense may not fear the power of any adversaries through

00:23:16.260 the might of Jesus Christ our Lord. Amen. In the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy

00:23:21.440 Spirit. Amen. Father Martin Navarro is joining us now. Father, how are you? Doing well, Father

00:23:28.260 Robinson. How are you? I am very well, thank you. What's the weather like down there in Florida?

00:23:32.320 It's pretty warm. Pretty much always is down there, isn't it? Wonderful. I was with you not

00:23:38.740 long ago. We had a great celebration of Catholicism and you are part of a group that is trying to

00:23:44.980 reinvigorate traditional Catholic values down there in the South, and you're doing a very

00:23:49.360 good job. But the reason I wanted to get you on today is because people think that Easter

00:23:54.460 is just one day. We have the same problem with Christmas. People celebrate Christmas

00:23:58.560 all throughout December, which is supposed to be Advent, and then we get to Christmas

00:24:01.200 Day and they're like, oh, it's over now, what do we do? You have this betwixt period, which

00:24:06.480 is actually Christmas, between Christmas and New Year. And we have the same with Easter.

00:24:10.460 We have Easter Day, and people may or may not have a celebration, and then they're like,

00:24:14.220 okay, so now what? But in the Christian faith, Easter is a season. We are in Eastertide. So I

00:24:20.960 wanted to get you on to talk a little bit about that and why people should still be celebrating.

00:24:24.720 The feast is the octave, obviously, and the feast is over, but the celebration continues,

00:24:28.680 does it not? Absolutely. And actually, if you read some from the liturgical year by Dom Prosper,

00:24:34.520 Gary and Jay, he explicitly mentions that in the historical church, the Monday and Tuesday after

00:24:39.000 Easter used to be Holy Days of Obligation as well. They're doubles of the first class. And so

00:24:43.360 the whole week was absolutely a feast so much so that i mean on the easter vigil we used to

00:24:48.560 baptize the neophytes and they used to wear albs for a full week showing the whole world showing

00:24:53.720 all of rome that they were now christians and then the following sunday actually is a huge

00:24:57.680 solemnity as well in the in the historical church that's actually called dominican albis or uh

00:25:02.620 sunday in white or sunday in albs because that was the last day that the neophytes had to wear

00:25:07.100 in instance had uh to wear their albs you know all around the city and they could finally take

00:25:11.040 them off and look normal again but that feast in itself of itself too uh the low sunday is what

00:25:16.460 it's commonly called was actually so high in the church that um there is there was no other feast

00:25:21.720 that was allowed to trumpet or in terms of you know supersede it so low sunday was always kept

00:25:26.240 as low sunday it was named uh yeah dominican albis or quasimodo sunday as the intro begins to say

00:25:31.400 but most especially because easter is something that should affect all of our lives from here on

00:25:37.620 out we're born after the resurrection obviously and it's precisely the very catalyst of what it

00:25:43.540 means to be christian so much so that the rest of the liturgical year i know in the anglican

00:25:46.580 tradition it's a little bit different um i mean i guess in some traditions you mean if you have

00:25:50.740 after trinity for the rest of the liturgical year and then after pentecost um but for for us i mean

00:25:55.900 pentecost is so important where we're finally infused with the gift of the holy ghost um that

00:26:00.000 the rest of the year because the rest of our life is supposed to be a consequence lived in consequence

00:26:04.820 of having this gift of fire of the Holy Ghost within our hearts

00:26:07.920 that we then go and carry that same fire of love

00:26:10.780 that was in our Lord's heart out into the rest of the world,

00:26:13.120 just like it was symbolized on Holy Saturday

00:26:15.020 where from the Easter candle came all the little lighted candles

00:26:19.500 throughout the rest of the congregation.

00:26:21.340 So this is really the whole focal point, the whole meaning.

00:26:24.220 Without Easter, Christmas means nothing.

00:26:26.220 If our Lord didn't rise from the dead,

00:26:27.460 I mean, what do we care about our Lord's,

00:26:28.600 Jesus, Nazareth's birthday, so to speak?

00:26:31.680 And that is an interesting point

00:26:33.380 because people in the secular world still celebrate Christmas.

00:26:37.940 But Easter has kind of taken a back seat.

00:26:40.480 Now, from a Catholic perspective, the Easter vigil is the most important,

00:26:43.840 the most significant event in the Christian calendar, isn't it?

00:26:46.580 It's the most important day of the year.

00:26:48.420 In fact, every Sunday is like a reflection of that.

00:26:50.600 Every Sunday is a mini Easter because of it.

00:26:53.260 Absolutely.

00:26:54.320 And, well, the length and the quality of the liturgy kind of highlights that moment.

00:26:58.640 I'm sure you also were pretty exhausted for preparing for the Easter vigil

00:27:03.240 and all of its different parts and all of its different sections

00:27:05.320 with possible baptisms and confirmations and everything else.

00:27:09.240 It's quite the, quote-unquote, production, if you will,

00:27:12.060 that you only do it once a year, so you have to review it every single year.

00:27:15.300 So, I mean, everything from the prophecies that are involved

00:27:19.460 to the actual care for the liturgy and the actual mass

00:27:23.520 and then ending with vespers and all these sorts of things,

00:27:26.140 it really is the culmination of everything that the Triduum was meant to be.

00:27:29.880 It references the whole Paschal mystery.

00:27:31.620 and we saw a number i think a record number of people entering the church this year at easter

00:27:36.680 we had five confirmations here but i know all across the country all across the united states

00:27:40.880 and uh the wider west christendom we saw record numbers of people entering the faith absolutely

00:27:47.480 and i mean it kind of makes sense so to speak that the world makes all these empty promises

00:27:51.140 and i think the younger generations have seen our generations um buy into those promises see how

00:27:58.200 unhappy our generations are. And they're like, wait a second, if that's supposed to make you

00:28:03.600 happy and you're not happy, then why do I want, why do I want the life you're pursuing? You know,

00:28:08.680 which is all the more reason to have Christian joys, because that's precisely what this life

00:28:13.220 gives us, a joy that the world cannot take away. Yeah, I'm into that. But without getting too

00:28:17.380 nuanced and too geeky, I know you celebrate the traditional Latin mass. So I'm going to ask which

00:28:21.640 easter celebration did you have which especially throughout holy week so we did the uh pre-1955

00:28:28.680 holy week and again see exactly so try not to be too geeky as you said um pope pius the 12th made

00:28:36.520 a lot of significant changes um to most especially holy week or not holy holy saturday um but also to

00:28:43.360 the the fridays on good friday liturgy um that uh i mean there's so many significant differences

00:28:51.000 that for me personally, what I like to do is go back and ask why. Why did the church always do

00:28:56.060 things the way that it did before? And then I may get a little geeky and compare it to the later

00:29:01.300 renovations, later rewrites and all these sorts of things to ask myself, okay, spiritually,

00:29:08.060 spirituality-wise, just prayerfully, what did the older liturgy give me that the new liturgy

00:29:12.180 kind of had a redirection or a reorientation of ideas to try to feed us? Because ultimately,

00:29:17.700 the liturgy is supposed to be our spiritual food so in one sense i get geeky but for a spiritual

00:29:22.280 reason not because i actually like liturgy so to speak in all these nuances um but i always want

00:29:27.960 to know like what what what did holy mother church want to give me how did it want to feed me because

00:29:31.840 i see all of it as just nutrients you know absolutely we do most of our most of our

00:29:36.860 liturgy is from 1962 when the latin mass was kind of standardized in its final form before

00:29:42.500 modernity crept into the church and so we for example we pray on good friday for the perfidious 1.00

00:29:48.060 jews we pray for the people of no faith in our lord and savior jesus christ i think that's a 1.00

00:29:53.000 very good thing we should be praying for all people of no faith all people that lack faith 0.99

00:29:56.760 so they can come to know him so they can get to heaven that's a good that's love and these these

00:30:01.920 prayers were removed in modernity because it was seen as too controversial we don't want to upset

00:30:05.620 we don't offend anyone that doesn't have the faith and this comes to a story we were talking

00:30:09.260 about previously in the show where you can get arrested in britain these days if you are offending

00:30:13.240 people that don't have their faith but surely father the faith shouldn't offend you if you don't

00:30:17.680 have it yeah because i mean if you choose not to be a christian it's because you think christianity

00:30:24.440 is wrong and so why why would a lie in a sense offend you the problem is deep down everybody

00:30:30.060 knows that god exists you know i want to kind of joke with atheists sometimes like it takes a lot

00:30:34.940 more faith to believe that everything came from nothing or that something came from nothing

00:30:38.440 than to believe that something came from something. 1.00

00:30:41.000 So I kind of joke with atheists 0.95

00:30:42.100 that they actually have more faith than I do, so to speak.

00:30:45.500 But I think everybody knows deep down in their hearts

00:30:48.700 that Christianity makes sense.

00:30:49.860 But because of its moral demands,

00:30:52.880 the fact that we need grace,

00:30:54.680 we can't do this on our own, on our own effort,

00:30:56.760 that we have to give credit to Almighty God

00:30:58.800 for our salvation, that we can't earn his love.

00:31:01.700 All we can do is receive it and respond to it.

00:31:04.260 That it makes a lot of people uncomfortable

00:31:05.760 because a lot of people are searching

00:31:07.460 for their own proper or unique identity outside of a need for anybody else.

00:31:13.940 It's this really kind of sort of, I don't know, self-centeredness that a lot of these

00:31:19.460 tenets about Christianity just really, truly make them uncomfortable and they don't want

00:31:22.720 to accept it or meet its demands. 0.88

00:31:25.020 But of course, there's joy even in the fight.

00:31:27.440 There's joy in carrying that cross.

00:31:30.240 And in a sense, there's remorse for when we fall again, but there's joy in getting

00:31:33.760 back up again.

00:31:34.400 And so it's kind of this paradox to where, you know, you could experience that taste of eternal life, even though you're still, you know, even conquering your vices, so to speak.

00:31:46.940 Yes, it's a journey.

00:31:48.240 Give us, the airwave is yours.

00:31:50.840 Give us your summary of the Gospels, the summary of the Easter message.

00:31:54.600 Why is Easter important?

00:31:55.740 Why do we celebrate it?

00:31:56.700 What is Easter?

00:31:58.000 Oh, man.

00:31:59.320 I think every Easter, the two Gospel passages that hit me the strongest.

00:32:04.400 are the moment where St. Mary Magdalene experiences our Lord of the Temple, the Gospel of Luke,

00:32:10.120 and then also the disciples on the road to Emmaus.

00:32:17.540 And I think these two particularly hit me the strongest precisely because of my own personal conversion experience

00:32:22.960 to where when I was 18, 19 years old, I was pursuing a profession in professional music in Nashville.

00:32:33.540 and I had so much success very early on.

00:32:36.860 And again, kind of like I said earlier,

00:32:38.660 that I saw all these professional musicians.

00:32:40.460 I was playing with all my idols, so to speak,

00:32:43.060 and I saw that they weren't happy in life.

00:32:45.180 And I was like, I only want to be a musician

00:32:46.200 because I thought being a musician would make me happy.

00:32:48.540 But for a lot of them, doing something fun for their job

00:32:51.440 was just certain sort of narcotic for the pain,

00:32:53.700 for the suffering in life,

00:32:55.060 to where they got to escape maybe their home life

00:32:56.800 for eight hours a day,

00:32:58.060 but then eventually had to go back and face reality.

00:33:01.560 And I was like, well, why do I want to be here

00:33:02.980 if this isn't the the cure for my solitude for cure for my unhappiness so to speak and so i had

00:33:08.420 this existential crisis and i remember almost giving up on catholicism and christianity because

00:33:13.340 i grew up novus ordo didn't really understand the faith and i thought you know with all of

00:33:17.400 its moral demands it doesn't make me happy either but then i remember going to mass one one last

00:33:22.500 time looking up at the crucifix behind the altar and i said lord i don't understand how you dying

00:33:27.020 2 000 years ago affects my life today i don't understand how you're supposed to talk to me

00:33:32.080 We're supposed to have a relationship.

00:33:33.360 All these things that people say Christianity is supposed to be.

00:33:36.680 And in that particular moment, I was enlightened by two different phrases, so to speak, that

00:33:41.280 set me searching more and deeper into my Catholic faith.

00:33:44.740 Now, having been in that darkness, I heard a voice, so to speak, not an actual voice,

00:33:50.200 but I was given something, a particular grace that then sent me looking and ultimately I

00:33:54.620 find our Lord.

00:33:55.620 This is very similar to, I think, St. Mary Magdalene's experience and those on the road

00:33:58.880 to Emmaus.

00:33:59.920 St. Mary Magdalene was at the tomb on Easter Sunday,

00:34:02.480 but she didn't know it was Easter Sunday.

00:34:04.860 For her, it was still Good Friday.

00:34:06.440 Our Lord's dead.

00:34:07.960 To her, our Lord is dead.

00:34:09.660 And she's there.

00:34:10.320 And the love that she had for him

00:34:11.540 caused her to persevere in a way that the others,

00:34:15.740 the other women that were with her did not.

00:34:18.200 So what I often say is that a love that death

00:34:20.440 could not conquer first reveals itself

00:34:23.540 to a love that death cannot extinguish.

00:34:26.300 She kept loving, even though she didn't understand.

00:34:29.000 She kept loving in spite of her grief.

00:34:32.620 And it was because of that love that they received her reward that, you know, a Lord

00:34:36.860 appeared to her and woman, why do you weep?

00:34:39.840 Who do you seek?

00:34:41.120 A very beautiful question, because I think in the depths of our heart, some of us may

00:34:45.320 know that answer, but may not know how to express it.

00:34:48.100 We seek our Lord.

00:34:48.900 Ultimately, we seek our Lord when we seek of happiness, but maybe we don't know that

00:34:53.240 he is the object of our happiness.

00:34:57.440 And so we don't know how to say it, but we know what we're looking for.

00:35:00.260 And so likewise, I'm looking for the one who was buried here.

00:35:04.040 If you've laid him somewhere else, let me know.

00:35:06.020 I'll go and take him.

00:35:07.280 And then, of course, our Lord simply just says her name, Maria, Mary.

00:35:11.300 And, of course, her heart lights up.

00:35:12.660 She's on fire again.

00:35:13.580 She has that fire of love.

00:35:14.860 And it's beautiful, too, because I recently reread the story of a soul by St.

00:35:18.260 Teresa LeSue.

00:35:19.180 And it's so beautiful.

00:35:20.120 This 15-year-old girl who entered the continent, so pure, never committed a mortal sin in her life.

00:35:24.940 uh you know she she found this this former prostitute as an incredible example an incredible

00:35:31.080 example and it kind of struck me um ultimately because obviously saint theresa lesu was not

00:35:35.820 judging her past or anything but judging her in a sense because of the fire of her heart that flame

00:35:40.920 that the image of fire which of course is is the image precisely that comes on pentecost that

00:35:45.140 um that which constantly burns in one sense um you can look at it different two different ways

00:35:50.500 from the burning bush that you know that which burns but is never fully consumed um transfiguration

00:35:56.020 divinity does not consume or destroy our humanity but also the same thing that anything that burns

00:36:01.300 changes the object that is burned completely and never to be the same again and so i kind of love

00:36:05.300 this image of fire because you can you can see it in many different ways and likewise in the uh the

00:36:10.500 disciples on the road to emmaus again it was good friday for them they're walking uh away from

00:36:15.860 jerusalem and they encounter someone of course our lord but they don't recognize it to be our lord

00:36:19.940 our lord opens up the scriptures to them enters the house uh with them because again one of the

00:36:25.460 most beautiful things that um beautiful uh citations from the from the scriptures that i

00:36:30.400 find uh remain with us because it is evening and it is getting dark remain with us because it is

00:36:37.240 evening and uh you are getting and it is getting dark as father martin navarro was just saying

00:36:43.360 um john's gospel comes back a lot at easter and it's actually one of the gospels that isn't read

00:36:50.580 that often throughout the church year so throughout the church year matthew mark and luke

00:36:54.760 are usually the gospel readings every single sunday and there's a cycle in modernity there's

00:37:00.340 a three-year cycle uh in our church we use the the old-fashioned one-year cycle but regardless

00:37:04.840 there's a cycle that you go through readings in the church year in the liturgical life of the

00:37:09.060 church. And then at Easter, bam, John's gospel comes with a bang, because he is the one that

00:37:16.500 really outlines who Christ is. I mean, he starts with the Word of God being the living Jesus Christ,

00:37:23.360 right? He starts with that reflection of Genesis. The Word was God. And so it's kind of, it's not

00:37:30.460 left to our imagination. It's not vague. He's very explicit in it and upfront. So I like that. But

00:37:36.320 also he does teach a lot around the old faith and teach of how important the new faith is because

00:37:43.820 Jesus Christ is the fulfillment of the faith and the new testament fulfills the old testament the

00:37:49.440 new covenant fulfills the old covenant and John really nails that he's unafraid of that he's

00:37:54.220 unashamedly promoting Christ and Christianity where other people especially in modernity would

00:38:01.660 have you think that there's some kind of pluralism between Christianity and Judaism or something like

00:38:07.080 that. John leaves no guessing around that whatsoever and that's one of the many reasons

00:38:12.940 that John's gospel is one of my favorites. We have another story coming up soon with another guest

00:38:18.340 but before that let's take a prayer break. Let's pray the colleagues for grace. In the name of the

00:38:25.140 Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. Amen. O Lord our Heavenly Father, Almighty and

00:38:31.280 everlasting God who has safely brought us to the beginning of this day defend us in the same with

00:38:36.880 thy mighty power and grant that this day we fall into no sin neither run into any kind of danger

00:38:42.860 but that all our doings may be ordered by thy governance to do always that is righteous in

00:38:47.520 thy sight through Jesus Christ our Lord amen in the name of the Father and of the Son and of

00:38:52.980 Holy Spirit amen that was Father Martin Navarro of Restless Heart Media he has two weekly shows

00:38:59.780 check them out. Tuesday evening he has Three to Get Married by Fulton Sheen and Friday evenings

00:39:06.000 he has Friday Night Leisure. Very good Catholic priest to follow. Before we begin I want to point

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00:40:04.400 jihad. Now my next story you will have seen all over X this week is the IDF up to their old tricks.

00:40:13.340 A soldier smashes Jesus statue in Lebanon. I believe we have an image of this to show you,

00:40:19.320 but it's there you go essentially they have taken down a crucifix of christ and smashed him on the

00:40:26.180 head something we should be doing with idols something that should never happen with jesus

00:40:30.620 christ himself but of course people who don't follow christ have a different opinion on him

00:40:35.400 and people who actively reject christ have an even worse opinion on him now i'm going to bring

00:40:40.880 my next guest if you've watched any common sense crusades in the past you'll know this fellow this

00:40:45.180 callum smiles calvin the fro is back yeah so is the crusade

00:40:51.460 um you well did i before we get into am i well did i just hear you say the word leisure

00:41:00.360 um yeah oh good god wait leisure and leisure are two different things right i haven't been

00:41:10.940 americanized oh gosh you know what happens every day do you know every day we're gonna have to

00:41:16.440 valentina gomez you you're not allowed in i i have no problem speaking the language because i think 0.67

00:41:23.760 if you live in a place like you start to speak in that because you start to think in that language

00:41:27.460 because you have to translate all the time yeah if i ever use if i ever use the accent then cut

00:41:32.740 me off entirely because the accent is awful um no no offense to my producer who's in the room

00:41:37.860 But the Midwest accent is like, wah, it's like, it's like, everything's stretched out, it's vile.

00:41:45.300 Midwesterns are the best people in the world, but their accent is awful. 0.99

00:41:47.980 So if I ever use it inadvertently, let me know, Callum. 1.00

00:41:50.820 Now, before we move on, the Southern accent, by the way, that Southern drawl.

00:41:54.740 Now, that's more of an English twang, that I can get behind.

00:41:58.180 You saw this footage, well, the photography of the IDF soldiers doing what IDF soldiers do and attacking Christ.

00:42:05.100 What were your initial thoughts?

00:42:06.140 for me it was a bit of confirmation bias i think uh it's i mean it's everything i've

00:42:14.140 come to believe in recent years i mean i used to be a huge supporter of the israeli state

00:42:21.540 but that was when i was almost naively following other conservative voices you know without doing

00:42:28.020 my own due diligence and obviously you look into more things and even things with tucker carlson

00:42:33.100 shown the IDF badges

00:42:35.260 where it's the Third Temple. 0.59

00:42:37.920 Yeah, and or Greater Israel.

00:42:39.900 Yeah, and it makes you think,

00:42:41.780 I don't really think these are our allies.

00:42:45.620 Do it wrong, I'd love to go to Israel.

00:42:47.180 It looks like a fantastic place,

00:42:48.580 but I wouldn't align myself politically

00:42:54.980 with that country anymore.

00:42:57.940 Well, why should you have to? 1.00

00:42:59.580 It's a foreign country, 1.00

00:43:00.500 and you're a British man who cares about Great Britain.

00:43:02.340 exactly i am a british nationalist that you know this is the country i i am from that i live in

00:43:10.780 that i love this is what my you know my this is where my energy is right my focus is at

00:43:17.940 but this to me you know seeing seeing them do this it kind of yeah it just solidifies everything

00:43:25.380 i've come to learn recently you know you see a lot of especially over where you are a lot of

00:43:30.000 American conservative voices.

00:43:32.480 They seem to care more about Israel and their own country. 0.92

00:43:36.540 And they talk about how they love, oh, no, Jews love Christians. 0.97

00:43:43.860 This kind of tells me the opposite. 0.99

00:43:47.360 That is interesting.

00:43:48.520 So I have been to Israel, but I was there on a propaganda tour.

00:43:52.540 So I was constantly with an IDF soldier who was armed,

00:43:57.040 you know rifle around his shoulder so i was not spat at i didn't i was no one held any abuse at me

00:44:05.020 but then why would they because i was with one of their people who was clearly giving me the

00:44:09.600 propaganda talk and trying to tell me how victimized they are and how everyone hates them

00:44:13.160 and now there's no reason for it plus you're like seven feet tall right but my priestly friends

00:44:19.400 well even one that's my size maybe even an inch taller than me has been spat at every time he goes

00:44:25.260 there. Every other priest that I know that's been to Israel has been spat at, especially if they

00:44:29.520 wear a crucifix, because they hate it. Demons hate the crucifix. But especially people who reject

00:44:35.060 Christ also hate to see Christ and be reminded of him. And so it is strange to see, obviously in

00:44:40.780 America where Israel is the greatest ally, even though it should be Great Britain. So it is 0.79

00:44:46.000 strange to see that. But things are waking people up. And as you pointed out, we're all around in

00:44:51.260 the facts don't care about your feelings era which was like yeah this is conservatism little did we

00:44:55.880 know but we've all been on this journey of waking up to realizing that ben shapiro is actually

00:44:59.640 not a conservative and people who aren't christian nationalists are not necessarily our greatest

00:45:04.980 allies but when then you see this and even the propagandists can't argue against it because the

00:45:11.220 idf came out israel released a statement apologizing netanyahu posted online saying that

00:45:17.180 Israel is the only place in the Middle East

00:45:18.920 that adheres to freedom of worship for all.

00:45:21.740 Oh, this is not the apology.

00:45:22.760 But essentially, they just said,

00:45:24.260 they said, yes, we did it

00:45:25.860 and we shouldn't have done it.

00:45:27.380 They expressed regret, I believe,

00:45:28.940 which is similar to an apology.

00:45:30.640 To me, though, it felt like

00:45:31.900 they expressed regret of being caught.

00:45:35.900 It's like when somebody cheats

00:45:37.680 and they suddenly start crying.

00:45:39.620 I don't think you're crying

00:45:40.820 because you're actually remorseful.

00:45:42.120 I think you're crying because

00:45:43.000 you don't like that you're now

00:45:45.040 having to suffer the consequences.

00:45:47.180 like when a politician gets caught doing something they shouldn't be doing

00:45:50.240 I regret what happened

00:45:52.000 no you don't

00:45:52.640 it's like that classic joke on Little Britain

00:45:55.180 where David Walliams plays a politician

00:45:57.240 and he's always had to do the speech

00:45:59.620 outside of his house

00:46:00.720 as to why he's had a meme caught being gay

00:46:03.560 or something

00:46:04.080 but it's

00:46:06.660 it would be interesting to see

00:46:09.460 who

00:46:11.320 in the conservative landscape

00:46:13.480 especially out in the states

00:46:14.800 has seen this and gone

00:46:16.540 maybe candace and tucker are right which has also been an interesting part of the conversation

00:46:24.640 because obviously the president himself denounced candace owens tucker colson megan kelly

00:46:29.960 um marjorie taylor green anyone that was in the original maga cohort that brought him in that got

00:46:36.100 him the popularity the ones with the big platforms that promoted him he's denounced them all now as 0.99

00:46:41.460 crazy, low-IQ loons 0.99

00:46:43.420 and 1.00

00:46:44.580 pretty much denounced half of his support base

00:46:47.440 if not more, and so the only people

00:46:49.540 left in MAGA are the Lindsey Graham's

00:46:51.500 the Mike Huckabees, the people who idolise

00:46:53.480 Israel, so this may 0.75

00:46:55.480 wake up those last remaining people 0.98

00:46:56.960 Yeah, I mean, this could be

00:46:59.480 the end of the two-party system in America

00:47:01.180 because, I mean, I'm seeing a lot

00:47:03.520 of people saying that, oh, Tucker

00:47:05.380 Tucker says that he wished he voted for Kamala

00:47:07.440 and then I watched all the clips, I went, at no point

00:47:09.420 has he said that, he just said he regrets voting for

00:47:11.380 trump that wound me up i think there is now a big yeah it really annoyed me as well because

00:47:16.800 it's not that it's slightly misleading that is an outright lie and it can be verified there and then

00:47:22.020 but but it also showed people's unthinking that everything is so binary and they live in false

00:47:28.320 dichotomies if because tucker said he regretted voting for trump or regretted supporting trump

00:47:33.700 and i get that i i didn't vote because i don't have a vote but i certainly supported trump but

00:47:37.760 i don't know if i regret it but i can completely understand the regret just as i regret voting for

00:47:43.020 the conservative party in great britain now that doesn't mean that i suddenly love sakir starmer

00:47:46.880 or that i'm glad sakir starmer got into power of course i'm not he's worse but i can dislike both 0.97

00:47:52.540 of them disliking one does not mean you love the other it's stupid to suggest that saying you 0.77

00:47:57.420 regret voting for trump means that you would have preferred kamala harris and i genuinely think most

00:48:02.260 people who are saying that are not doing it in bad faith i just don't think they're thinking i

00:48:05.980 don't think people are able to critical think anymore which is weird isn't it because like

00:48:10.740 there was this moment in the covid era where people started to think for themselves for the

00:48:17.620 first time yet now we seem to have gone back even further to where we were it's like one step forward

00:48:23.900 two steps back but i i do have a bit of faith in the in the waking up middle majority i i do think

00:48:34.640 I think you'll see a lot of people that will still

00:48:37.280 basically lend their votes

00:48:39.140 to the Republicans

00:48:40.020 as a, okay, we don't

00:48:43.300 like this guy, but we really don't like

00:48:45.360 this person. We'll vote for them

00:48:47.260 again.

00:48:48.580 I think that means that they're on the

00:48:51.080 trajectory to, in years to come,

00:48:53.720 basically going, no, both

00:48:55.400 of these sides are basically

00:48:56.940 the political wing of the Rothschilds

00:48:59.420 and the Rockefellers and

00:49:00.420 Greater Israel. 0.88

00:49:02.080 we need to make our own thing 0.94

00:49:05.040 and actually abandon this system

00:49:07.260 that's what I'm hoping for

00:49:09.060 and I think

00:49:10.020 will it be in our lifetime?

00:49:13.120 who knows

00:49:13.860 we do, but this is a problem

00:49:16.260 Trump said he was going to drain the swamp

00:49:17.780 and he's actually joined the swamp

00:49:19.180 but we have the same problem in Great Britain too

00:49:21.240 in that we can't vote for the Conservative Party

00:49:23.200 obviously because they've been in power for 14 years

00:49:25.300 before this current Labour government

00:49:27.420 and they demolished the country

00:49:29.160 I spoke earlier on the fact that the Boris wave

00:49:31.640 was the worst thing that's happened to us in a long time so tony blair may have started it but

00:49:35.560 boris johnson certainly accelerated it um so we can't vote for the conservatives we can't vote for

00:49:39.720 the labor because they're communist dictators uh we can't vote for the greens because they're even

00:49:43.680 worse and so we're left with this model of well there's reform there's reclaim there's ukip there's

00:49:48.260 all these little parties that are vying for the center-right attention america doesn't even have

00:49:54.400 that i suppose a lot of it comes down to what happens in the primaries will they vote for the

00:49:58.880 continuation, the continuity candidate, which will be J.D. Vance, who's been in office now

00:50:03.500 throughout another foreign war, another Middle Eastern forever war that was supposed to last

00:50:09.400 a day, then a week, then three weeks, then eight weeks, then whatever. So will they vote for him 0.70

00:50:14.220 or will they actually find someone who can make a difference? As far as I see, and you may have a

00:50:19.520 different perspective, Thomas Massey seems to be the only one in the Republican Party that is

00:50:23.740 willing to stand up and be different and actually step apart from the swamp which means he won't be

00:50:30.400 there long i mean charlie kirk was a big fan of him charlie kirk was in trump's ear whilst charlie

00:50:39.860 kirk was around trump wasn't doing anything in the middle east that wasn't on the maga agenda

00:50:46.380 suddenly he just happens to

00:50:48.660 you know just

00:50:50.360 happens to be bumped off

00:50:52.780 and then suddenly 1.00

00:50:53.740 okay Magga's out 1.00

00:50:56.040 Migger is in 1.00

00:50:57.360 My Migger 0.99

00:50:59.340 We can talk about that 1.00

00:51:02.760 a little bit though because I know you're a bit of

00:51:04.600 a conspiracy theorist. Whenever I think of a

00:51:06.540 conspiracy I think of Callum Smiles

00:51:08.300 But

00:51:10.660 I obviously

00:51:12.360 I was friends with Charlie. I knew Charlie

00:51:14.580 and I think he was a great man.

00:51:15.960 But I also think he was important.

00:51:18.460 He was significant for this country

00:51:20.160 because if he was still alive,

00:51:21.800 I don't think we'd be at war with Iran.

00:51:23.620 I think he was holding people back.

00:51:26.220 You know, he had Trump's ear,

00:51:27.940 but he had Trump's ear in a good way

00:51:29.960 in that he was not seen as an anti-Semite

00:51:32.800 or any kind of faux-borism.

00:51:35.100 He was just a nice, moderate guy

00:51:36.960 who didn't believe in foreign wars

00:51:38.780 and he loved Israel.

00:51:40.560 And I mean, obviously,

00:51:41.420 he was changing his mind on Israel at the end,

00:51:42.920 which may be why he was killed,

00:51:45.360 but whilst he was trying to keep us out of war with Iran,

00:51:50.680 he was listened to.

00:51:52.020 Now he's dead, we're at war with Iran.

00:51:53.680 Again, I'm not saying these things are connected,

00:51:55.120 maybe they are, but I want to ask you your thoughts on it

00:51:57.180 because now we have people in the White House,

00:51:59.140 or we did, recently Tucker was in there

00:52:01.080 because I was on the phone to his team

00:52:02.260 while he was in the White House.

00:52:03.460 I don't think he gets invited anymore,

00:52:04.980 but while he was there, he was trying to tell the president

00:52:06.820 this is not a good idea, but then he can be dismissed

00:52:09.920 because all of the president's little snakes around him 0.87

00:52:12.840 of like, oh, he's an anti-Semite, ignore him.

00:52:14.880 Whereas they couldn't do that with Charlie,

00:52:16.900 which is maybe one of the reasons he's no longer with us.

00:52:19.960 I mean, I think Charlie didn't just have his ear.

00:52:24.100 I think he also had his lead.

00:52:26.600 So there's lots of people in Trump's ear,

00:52:29.740 but I think Charlie was possibly the most influential.

00:52:32.780 He was the one who basically took Trump for the walks.

00:52:35.300 He was Trump's good Alistair Campbell,

00:52:41.500 that makes more sense to you than it does your American votes

00:52:44.180 he was basically the spin doctor

00:52:45.820 he was the guy

00:52:48.120 behind the guy

00:52:49.720 pulling the strings

00:52:50.960 and he was going to be president one day

00:52:54.300 I'm absolutely adamant of that

00:52:56.460 but I think he was

00:52:58.400 going to be a president a bit like

00:53:00.340 JFK in which that

00:53:02.260 he saw there was problems

00:53:04.240 and he wanted to step away from those problems

00:53:06.600 and those problems

00:53:08.200 made him step away first

00:53:10.320 rather than them have to step away.

00:53:12.780 So, yeah, I'm adamant that Charlie Kirk was bumped off.

00:53:19.100 And actually, funny enough, I've spoken to a friend of mine

00:53:22.780 who's done a lot of camera work at TPUSA.

00:53:26.820 I was like, right, so what's it like now?

00:53:29.120 And he was saying, mate, it's weird.

00:53:34.060 This place is not the same anymore.

00:53:35.880 it's a strange atmosphere here

00:53:40.560 some strange decisions are being made

00:53:43.140 I think Charlie Kirk

00:53:48.880 was definitely taken out by the powers that be

00:53:51.400 because whilst he was around

00:53:54.860 Trump wasn't going to be doing anything for the Greater Israel Project

00:53:59.940 and here we are

00:54:03.500 we're back to we're back to uh the long expensive wars where the west doesn't win

00:54:10.660 but it costs us a fortune we've got to pay for it rich men get richer the rest of us get poorer

00:54:17.520 all i know is my petrol prices are up callum or as they say out here the gas prices

00:54:22.700 are ridiculous what are you paying per gallon now um it went up to four bucks for a while

00:54:29.360 It's gone down a little bit.

00:54:31.580 But over in California, it's like $9 a gallon.

00:54:35.180 It's insane.

00:54:35.700 California's probably on UK prices.

00:54:38.640 What is it there?

00:54:40.240 I paid for Supreme Diesel the other day.

00:54:45.180 I paid £2.09.

00:54:48.480 And then for standard unleaded fuel, you're paying like $1.51.

00:54:54.560 Rupert Loper

00:54:57.800 posted a nice picture of when it was

00:54:59.620 50 pence a gallon

00:55:00.660 I don't remember that but

00:55:03.300 can you imagine in Britain where it was 50 pence a gallon

00:55:05.880 that's what we need to get back to

00:55:07.040 50 pence a gallon

00:55:09.020 right now I'm trying to make my own

00:55:13.400 top tip though if anyone watching this

00:55:17.920 can get hold of red diesel

00:55:19.420 put it through cat litter

00:55:21.360 and it takes the dye out

00:55:24.560 it was good to see cardinal pizza bala and the assembly of the catholic ordinaries of the holy

00:55:33.360 land releasing a statement coming out against this this thing we were talking about the the

00:55:38.440 breaking of the chris christian crucifix and the attacking of christ with a sledgehammer

00:55:43.060 it's nice to see the catholic bishops but cardinal pizza bala has been amazing throughout

00:55:47.820 obviously he's served in gaza for years now he was so close to becoming the next pope

00:55:52.480 just imagine what the church would be like if he had become pope but he's been solid and of course

00:55:58.100 they have replaced the cross so the crucifix has been replaced with one that looks it looks pretty

00:56:04.500 good to be fair to them and so i had to receive an apology so so an acknowledgement uh it's not

00:56:09.820 an apology regret an acknowledgement regret and replacement is pretty decent to be credit where

00:56:14.540 it's due right but one of the things i'm thinking of is this is the one we saw

00:56:20.080 how many times this happened that people haven't seen it that that's a good point because

00:56:28.600 churches are getting hit all the time but people are kind of desensitized to that because churches

00:56:34.820 being set on fire in canada and in france pretty much every week at this point and so people either

00:56:39.920 don't believe it or they're desensitized to it and so this statue is struck people in a way that

00:56:45.260 even people who are blinded mostly saw it and people were outraged by it but you're right how

00:56:51.080 often is this happening when we don't see it what which fall posted evidence of themselves doing 0.99

00:56:56.620 this in the first place which kind of makes it seem a bit suspicious doesn't it too stupid to 1.00

00:57:02.500 be stupid surely it could just be a stupid thing where you go you idiots you've just made us all 1.00

00:57:08.700 look fools but it does seem a bit too stupid to be stupid callum uh before we wrap up are you going 1.00

00:57:14.080 to the march on the 16th of may in london uh no i'm not um i i don't really like what these becoming 0.99

00:57:23.980 go on well they almost i think they serve a purpose to a degree if you're new to all this

00:57:33.320 it's really good to connect with people who that you know a lot of these people they might be on

00:57:38.720 their own in their way of thinking at work but it does just feel like a pressure valve

00:57:43.680 like people can go there for the weekend and they can yeah this yeah this is brilliant yeah we're

00:57:49.680 gonna take back the country and then they go back to work and we're still being invaded we're still

00:57:54.540 being tacked to death we're still you know everything's getting worse but but people

00:57:58.620 have managed to have their rant and rave on a weekend i said the same thing on fox and father

00:58:03.340 last week i said lawrence because lawrence is going obviously i think he helps fund it

00:58:06.940 but to what end because this was nice at the beginning it was great and obviously i was

00:58:11.840 involved in organizing the first couple and i gave it the name uniting the kingdom but i'm like but

00:58:16.000 what's the point now what are we getting out of it what's happening exactly it seems to nothing it

00:58:20.320 doesn't go further people go they wave the flag around they have a nice time in fact i'll give

00:58:24.280 you a little story that i don't know if i've shared publicly yet but uh in the first few meetings

00:58:29.140 you've got me you've got lawrence fox you've got katie hopkins you've got tommy robinson you've got

00:58:33.600 his backers and and there's no way i can describe them without sounding like an anti-semite or 0.75

00:58:39.760 something but they were the stereotypical overweight jewish fellows and they were sat in the

00:58:44.860 room and all of us and were there and peter was there from um heart of oaks um anyway all the

00:58:51.660 carl benjamin all the um people on the right in british uh activism were there and we were talking

00:58:59.140 about ideas and lawrence came up with the heart flag that we could have as pins i came up with

00:59:04.880 the idea is uniting the kingdom because that's what we need to do we need to unite britain again

00:59:08.540 it's not about being divisive it's not about and it's about being britain again and

00:59:13.380 tommy said something about oh someone in the room said something about we've got to reunite with

00:59:18.940 with judeo-christian values i was like let me just stop you right there i was like this is great

00:59:26.720 we had this we had this whiteboard with all these ideas on it was and i think we posted

00:59:34.200 it online at the time loads of good ideas um visit grad 24 was there stephan and and i said

00:59:40.560 nothing against any other peoples or any other demographics but great britain has been a

00:59:45.900 christian country since 927 ad for over a thousand years we've been an explicitly christian country

00:59:51.000 people can argue that we have similarities with people of other faiths if they want

00:59:54.220 they can argue that we share similar books if they want but britain has never ever been described as

00:59:59.980 a judeo-christian country it's always been described as a christian country i don't agree

01:00:04.040 with putting anything before christ i don't want to water down christianity and i'm not saying that

01:00:08.540 people of other faiths are not welcome in britain although but it is explicitly christian and to

01:00:14.420 to give that and i said this in front of the fat cats quite literally and today all of their credit 0.66

01:00:18.820 they all went oh yeah you're right and now and since because that first rally they had uk flags

01:00:24.280 the union flag and they had israeli flags everywhere people picking up on this and i said

01:00:29.000 One of my other bits of feedback was we can have St. George's Cross, St. Andrew's Cross,

01:00:34.820 we can have the Union flag, we can have any British flag. We cannot have other foreign 0.99

01:00:39.560 flags. It's not about that. It's about us as the people coming back together. It's 0.88

01:00:42.780 about uniting the Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. And again, to their 0.95

01:00:45.920 credit, all the other rallies since then have been mostly British flags. So not that I'm

01:00:51.140 trying to look for credit, but I'm going to share this story because this is how close

01:00:53.520 these things come. And it's not containment. It really is about people wanting to make

01:00:57.580 a difference but at the same time it can so quickly become taken over by other people with

01:01:02.980 other ideas and other faiths and other from other countries like this is about us as a christian

01:01:07.560 people as a british people and but you're right what next and and you know i think i'm gonna guess

01:01:14.300 that you and i probably share similar similar belief on this as well is that not only is it

01:01:19.460 like a pressure valve and this is why i'm actually kind of glad valentina gomez was denied entry to

01:01:24.920 the uk is it for a lot of people it's a oh look at me aren't i good there is net there is never a

01:01:32.900 plan there's never someone comes up on stage and go look here's how we can solve this we could

01:01:40.100 stop paying into yada yada yada we could prevent this happening we could go and do this we can

01:01:47.800 physically do something it's just someone gets on a stage they get a mic they get someone to film

01:01:53.720 them so they get all their clicks on twitter and they get their twitter money of them just

01:01:58.580 basically shouting into an echo chamber about what they don't like and that's what i don't like 0.98

01:02:05.080 it's and especially if it's a grifter from another country a grifter from another country coming over

01:02:11.120 to just get that platform like valentina gomez like all she does is me me me me me one of those

01:02:15.760 narcissistic women that just wants to be in the spotlight like i don't want her to be banned from

01:02:19.680 britain because i don't want anyone to be banned from britain for what they say if it's just for 0.61

01:02:22.920 at being offensive.

01:02:23.560 But for that weekend, yes.

01:02:25.440 Yeah, I find her offensive.

01:02:26.800 And I don't want her invited

01:02:27.720 at the event

01:02:28.320 because she's vile.

01:02:29.960 And what she said

01:02:30.520 about Carl Benjamin was like,

01:02:31.560 wait a minute,

01:02:32.000 who are you? 0.99

01:02:32.560 Who the hell are you 1.00

01:02:33.620 coming over to our country? 1.00

01:02:34.880 You're a Colombian immigrant 1.00

01:02:36.260 to begin with. 1.00

01:02:37.180 You can't get on a stage 0.92

01:02:38.040 and talk about immigration

01:02:38.900 being a problem. 0.93

01:02:39.520 You are the problem. 0.96

01:02:40.860 Did you see one of the things 0.76

01:02:43.480 Carl said was,

01:02:45.200 here you are trying 0.51

01:02:45.920 to break into our country. 0.88

01:02:47.280 Basically, 1.00

01:02:47.640 she's Colombian.

01:02:48.880 She said,

01:02:49.680 if I can't fly,

01:02:50.440 I'll get a boat.

01:02:51.640 He's like, 1.00

01:02:52.160 typical immigrant but it's true it's that she's she is a part of the problem like she wants the 1.00

01:02:57.820 limelight and actually i put out a tweet because i'm like there's no such thing as a conservative 0.95

01:03:02.340 woman in politics if you're a conservative woman you're a mother you're a wife you're a homemaker

01:03:07.100 you're a caregiver those are pretty much the options calvin you're attacking erica kirk

01:03:12.120 erica kirk is not a christian conservative woman like she should be looking after those kids

01:03:17.920 how many times did charlie kirk talk about the idea of a christian woman being at home and that's

01:03:22.620 the best vocation in the world and she's sitting there on his podcast like yes yes i agree oh 0.96

01:03:27.440 jumping in his shoes it's ridiculous it's quite sad and disgusting but without trying to sound 0.94

01:03:36.700 like we're attacking a mourning widow um all christian women all conservative women should 0.98

01:03:41.760 be looking to fulfill their vocation as either a wife a mother a caregiver or a homemaker and it's

01:03:47.380 quite simple they are great vocations they shouldn't be attacking men they shouldn't be

01:03:50.920 taking the place of men they shouldn't be ceos nor they should be on stage being loudmouth

01:03:56.480 blooming clickbaits anyway

01:04:01.360 so calum smiles thank you for joining us on the first episode of the next crusade i'm sure you

01:04:08.720 will be back many more times people where can people find you are you still with vox populi

01:04:12.820 Are you Callum Smiles Media?

01:04:14.480 Where can they check your content?

01:04:15.860 Yeah, no, not only am I the lead reporter of Vox Populi,

01:04:20.520 I now basically run the marketing department as well,

01:04:24.100 which I quite like, actually.

01:04:26.040 You get to do the old wheeling and dealing.

01:04:27.740 So it's basically my job is now trying to find advertisers.

01:04:31.300 Yeah, no, still working there and still being a window cleaner

01:04:36.060 because ultimately I think if you can't fund yourself,

01:04:40.520 you're bought and paid for.

01:04:41.440 He's the man of the people.

01:04:42.400 I like your set by the way

01:04:43.660 beautiful studio there

01:04:45.040 you've got going on

01:04:45.980 are you advertising

01:04:46.920 your other job 0.99

01:04:47.640 this is a mum's

01:04:50.380 craft studio actually

01:04:51.460 kind of smiles

01:04:52.700 thank you very much

01:04:53.400 God bless you

01:04:53.980 now

01:04:55.060 that is it for this week's

01:04:57.040 next crusade

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01:04:59.240 for our

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01:05:03.040 it's good to be back

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The NXR Podcast - May 07, 2026

The Next Crusade - When Preaching Becomes A Crime

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