The NXR Podcast - THE SPECIAL - A Good Faith Message to Men Like Andrew Wilson & John Doyle (w⧸Partridge, Smith & Robinson)

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00:01:08.100 radical christian nationalist pastor joel webin joel webin i'm gonna talk about joel webin

00:01:19.100 Joe Webbin is an accident.

00:01:39.700 All right, here we are. I'm here with the team. This episode's important. We're going to be

00:01:44.640 talking about kind of the lay of the land and what's happening on the religious political

00:01:48.640 cultural right um the american right-wing politics culture religion uh we think there are some massive

00:01:55.920 gaps some massive problems and although all of us are squarely right-wing and christian um we are

00:02:03.120 very much concerned about uh our team and honestly if i had to if it was i'm not saying long term but

00:02:11.100 just short-term, like, what do you think is going to happen in the next few years? I think we're

00:02:15.460 cruising for a bruising. I think we're going to get our butts kicked. And I don't think that's 0.99

00:02:19.440 just like some ambiguous, ethereal vibe. I think there are reasons for it. I think we deserve to

00:02:26.460 get crushed good and hard because of our, and I'm going to use the word, because of our sin,

00:02:31.480 because of real sin. And I want to talk about it. But before I do, let's just introduce the team,

00:02:37.560 why the four of us, a lot of people maybe are tuning in for the first time,

00:02:41.840 what we're trying to do together, because that kind of ties into the topic of this episode.

00:02:46.600 So let's just start over here and introduce ourselves.

00:02:49.540 Yeah, Dale Partridge, pastor of Kingsway Reform Church in Prescott, Arizona.

00:02:53.500 And yeah, this conversation is important.

00:02:55.660 I think people are looking for answers and hoping that we can provide them.

00:03:00.900 Amen.

00:03:01.500 I'm Harrison Smith, host of The War Room on Alex Jones Live,

00:03:04.760 and of course, Off Limits News on NXR.

00:03:07.140 I'm the only one here, not a man of the cloth.

00:03:10.060 I'm a little intimidated, but yeah, absolutely.

00:03:12.700 I mean, we are in a period of flux right now

00:03:14.840 and sort of whatever happens in the next couple of months

00:03:18.060 really will determine the fate of the country.

00:03:20.660 So we got to seize, you know, charge,

00:03:23.780 take charge right now

00:03:24.700 or else God only knows where it ends up from here.

00:03:27.160 Right.

00:03:27.780 And you're the only one who's not a man of the cloth,

00:03:30.160 but at the same time,

00:03:32.060 you're the only one who's actually wearing the cloth.

00:03:33.780 this is true go for it we can do some more the nations later father calvin robinson host of

00:03:40.040 the common sense crusade and the next crusade here on nxr studios and i think the question

00:03:45.120 we've been asking for so long is how far right is too far right yes we've been capitulating to

00:03:49.180 the left and trying to appease the people who hate us and hate our lord and now it's about time

00:03:53.140 to say actually no we're gonna go the whole way maybe that's the title of the episode that's great

00:03:57.020 yes what say it again yeah how far right is too far right that so i think that all there's there's

00:04:01.920 a lot to cover here but like what what is the real sin on the right why are we going to fail

00:04:07.060 because it actually and we're not we're not there are some guys who like to be honest i think they

00:04:13.400 actually want the right to fail and they're and they're on the right i'm not just talking about

00:04:16.840 left toys with blue hair you know scissor sisters or whatever like i'm talking people who celebrated

00:04:21.900 charlie kurt being an assassin no i'm talking about people who really are on the right they

00:04:25.580 really are on our team in the broader sense um but they're not just predicting um a a um a a near

00:04:32.760 failure but they're almost giddy about it like they're almost kind of like you know like they're

00:04:39.220 like you know ironically like they're kind of and it's because just to be fair to them because because

00:04:44.920 we know some of those guys they're good guys we like those guys um but i think there is a little

00:04:49.740 bit of bitterness because they themselves personally were wrongfully disparaged for so 0.96

00:04:55.540 long that they're kind of like, screw you. I hope you get cringed. Whereas like, I don't have that 0.99

00:05:00.900 luxury. I have people who have disparaged me and they were wrong. And I was right. By the grace of

00:05:05.840 God, God gets all the glory. I was right. They were wrong, right? Like the apostle Paul, I must be out

00:05:10.160 of my mind to speak this way, but humor a little fool. So I was right. They were wrong. Here's the 0.98

00:05:15.040 deal though it doesn't matter in my case and the reason why it doesn't matter is because i can't

00:05:20.480 afford the luxury of the guys who said i was wrong getting crushed um and us going into four more

00:05:27.460 years of darkness we forget how dark 2020 to 2020 i can't afford that and here's why i have five

00:05:34.360 children and a six on the way right like i don't have like i don't have the luxury of i can wait

00:05:41.500 it out you know i've um i'm i'm rich i'm um i'm i'm single i you know i'm insulated i know like

00:05:50.760 every sunday morning that's one of the things by the way like being a pastor every sunday morning

00:05:55.340 um people know where to find me if they want to hurt me oh yeah right they know where to find my

00:06:00.560 family we've had threats at church yes so so i as much as like the sinful side of me would be

00:06:07.940 sinfully gratified you know it's like i told you and this is what you get well what what my

00:06:15.180 opponents would get also affects my children yeah so i can't afford the law so i'm not sitting here

00:06:21.720 i told you so i'm here we're sitting here all of us are sitting here with um not an i told you so

00:06:28.240 but with a last minute ditch effort please listen to reason a clarion call a final sounding of the

00:06:36.140 alarm. The whole city is about to be rampaged. Please listen. So we need to talk about, I think,

00:06:44.340 two big things. What is the problem? What is it that we've been saying, that we're still saying,

00:06:49.060 that needs to be listened to? Where are the chinks in the armor? Where's the Achilles heel 1.00

00:06:53.360 on the broader right? Why are we going to get crushed good and hard and deserve it, but by

00:06:59.600 God's grace could maybe repent just in time and avoid that disaster? So that whole conversation,

00:07:04.260 that's piece one piece two is what you said dale um and what you said calvin um are there any breaks

00:07:10.580 on the train how far right are we going are we hiding our power levels is there is there secret

00:07:16.220 positions that we actually what we really think but we're toning it down like that's really i

00:07:21.320 think important for our listeners and especially those who are actually not a part of our audience

00:07:24.940 but haven't yet been poisoned by our opponents so they're actually good faith there there are some

00:07:30.480 of you, I know right now everything is so tribal, everything is so fractured, everyone, like you are

00:07:35.920 being constantly told you have to pick a team, you have to pick a side, you have to take a label

00:07:41.220 every single day pressured into that. But by the grace of God, there are actually still some of you,

00:07:45.580 I believe some of you will listen to this episode and have not actually declared a major, have not

00:07:50.540 actually chosen a side for you who are not our audience, but also have not been completely

00:07:57.060 poisoned against us um and you're in that middle ground you're giving it a good faith hearing um i

00:08:02.720 i actually want to address that second part of the episode the question of because because in your

00:08:07.820 mind the burning question is probably look the things you're saying they're spicy they're a

00:08:13.840 little out of my comfort zone but my big question is um but uh i could maybe get there but um but

00:08:21.380 the moment that i did get there if i was willing to hear you out would you immediately then move

00:08:26.760 50 more miles further right i actually think that's an important conversation so let's start

00:08:32.220 with the weaknesses though why why why is the gop let's just start there um harrison why is the gop

00:08:38.180 about to get crushed well how much time do we have on this episode i mean uh no it's it's we're

00:08:45.900 absolutely about to get crushed the republican party is absolutely about to get crushed and

00:08:49.640 the Democrats are not shy about what they intend to do. I mean, whether it's Gavin Newsom or James

00:08:54.060 Carville or, or the radical blue haired lefties, I mean, they're the ones who are telling what the

00:08:58.020 real plan is, which is they want to like round us up. Like it's, this isn't a joke. And when you

00:09:03.060 talk about how dark things were from like 2020 through 2024, I was just watching a video from

00:09:07.980 like 2022 and you do forget. And you watch a video from 2022 when it's just treated as obvious. It's

00:09:13.420 like, you know, well, everybody who was on the right no longer has a channel now. So, you know,

00:09:17.340 it's hard to find them and it's like we were banned we were i mean people were locked away

00:09:20.860 from their family for years in solitary confinement it was brutal already and that was without the

00:09:26.200 second trump administration which has done a lot to infuriate and enrage and engage the left

00:09:31.120 but almost nothing to mitigate their power or you know stop their political uh ambitions that's the

00:09:37.040 most dangerous thing is i feel like what the trump administration has done and i i want to give this

00:09:41.580 a fair shake because i think some some of our opponents and i'm talking about this being an

00:09:45.980 intramural battle so i i'm using that term opponents uh lightly these are guys that we love

00:09:51.440 right like i'm i'll just name one here because he's a great example um andrew wilson i love

00:09:57.240 andrew wilson i i do i think he does great work they're like everyone's a feminist right like

00:10:04.080 conservative versus the left it's just like it's literally just like are you um on a scale of one

00:10:09.600 to 10. Are you an 8.5 feminist or an 11? That's the only difference. He's one of the few guys

00:10:16.360 on our team who actually, he and his wife are not feminists. Him and his wife both went on Joe 0.68

00:10:22.340 Rogan and beat the hell out of feminism. I love that. You can't get me not to like him, right? 0.98

00:10:29.840 He's our guy. He's a Christian. He's great. That said, I'm thinking, what would Andrew Wilson think

00:10:36.600 if he listened to this probably won't but if he did um i want to give a fair shake the trump

00:10:41.980 administration this second term has has literally saved people's lives j6 prisoners um exonerated 0.93

00:10:49.720 um uh at least putting um a stop to at least holding the immigration like i mean tons of h1b 0.99

00:10:57.880 still you know but but at least um at least there's been you know some work with ice and

00:11:04.140 then some self-deportations and it's like it literally it bought us time but what you said

00:11:09.460 is absolutely true um it's there's there has been a blessing i want to recognize that if we sit here

00:11:15.240 and pretend like trump has done nothing it's not fair and we won't be taken fiercely by guys like

00:11:20.380 andrew wilson guys like john doyle right i like john doyle too i disagree with some positions but

00:11:26.100 i think he does a lot of good work he also has has given the one-two punch to feminism all these

00:11:31.760 different things grateful for those guys if i sit here and say the trump administration has just 0.87

00:11:35.680 been total crap and and like it's it's just one it's going to upset people that i think are

00:11:41.480 winnable i don't think those relationships i'm not willing to say um i'm now officially from 0.96

00:11:47.100 here on out counting out uh john doyle and andrew wilson i'm not willing to do that the right let's

00:11:51.980 just be honest one of our weaknesses we are way too comfortable with losing friendships

00:11:55.680 over petty disagreements in a moment it's like you're written off you're written off you're

00:12:00.460 written off Gideon God was supernatural God keyword God was whittling down his army so that

00:12:06.440 God would get the glory if God whittled down Gideon's army to 300 men and then Gideon on his

00:12:11.640 own accord said still seems like too many right and then shot 290 of them in the face that's 1.00

00:12:17.440 retarded that's suicidal I'm not going to do that so so to the Andrew Wilson crowd to the John Doyle 1.00

00:12:22.800 crowd to those kinds of guys i want to say um trump has bought my six children time 1.00

00:12:29.140 trump has given us um a chance at least a fighting chance that said trump has also because harrison's

00:12:38.760 right kicked the hornet's nest without crushing it yeah meaning that although he bought us time

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00:14:21.340 halfway through and, you know, the midterms are likely not going to go our way. And I do have to

00:14:26.600 say our way because there is a tendency now to go, oh, the whole left and right divide, that's fake

00:14:32.840 actually, you know, elections don't mean anything. But as you point out, like I have kids. Yes. If,

00:14:37.340 well what our schools are teaching has a direct impact on my life I can't just ignore that I

00:14:42.040 can't just go well I'll vote for the left uh you know as a as a protest against Trump it's like

00:14:47.300 no if the left gets in power my life tangibly gets worse you can't ignore that uh and the

00:14:53.400 disappointment with Trump is I will never take away the fact that he I will no matter what Trump

00:14:59.800 does I would always go back in time and vote for him because he released January Sixers some of

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00:15:07.200 lives in jail until it totally falsely and some pro-life advocates as well who

00:15:11.660 were arrested and absolutely yeah that's right brutal absolutely women praying

00:15:15.720 outside of abortion yeah you're right but then it's like now we get this you

00:15:18.840 know 1.2 billion dollar settlement form and it's the republicans who come along

00:15:22.340 and suddenly decide that uh they they remember that they're supposed to be

00:15:25.540 fiscally conservative and the one time that our side is supposed to benefit

00:15:28.900 they put in you know put a stop to that so that's the frustration with me is

00:15:33.220 trying to get through to the Republicans and the GOP, like, this is not a game. We don't have time

00:15:37.680 to play, to do a little back and forth. If Trump doesn't deport all these people, the next president

00:15:42.780 is going to give them all citizenship by the back door and open the border again, and it's over.

00:15:47.060 This is a universal problem in the West, in that conservatives are conserving what the liberals

00:15:51.860 have done before them. We need to go harder. We need to be more, well, traditionalist.

00:15:56.940 Yeah, seize the initiative, actually progress to the right.

00:15:59.900 prevents the left from coming back into power

00:16:01.860 and undoing everything that we've done,

00:16:03.160 but making it 10 times worse.

00:16:04.840 But to answer the question of why aren't people with us,

00:16:07.420 I don't think it's big picture.

00:16:08.520 I don't think people are thinking,

00:16:09.520 I can't go that far, I can only go that far,

00:16:11.280 and they might leave me behind.

00:16:12.200 I think it's just human nature of,

00:16:14.040 we don't want to be on our own.

00:16:15.460 And the more right you are,

00:16:16.720 the more you stand for the truth,

00:16:17.700 the more isolated you are,

00:16:18.840 which is why this is so important.

00:16:20.280 We're collaborating,

00:16:21.320 because we're all individually on our own,

00:16:22.840 but together, collectively.

00:16:23.780 Right, we're all doing this.

00:16:24.980 We've all been doing these things.

00:16:26.160 It's not like Harrison didn't already have a show.

00:16:27.900 It's not like you didn't have a show.

00:16:28.900 It's not like we're all three pastoring churches.

00:16:32.680 It's not like, oh, let's start NXR

00:16:34.480 because we need to get guys doing something.

00:16:36.600 All the guys we chose for NXR intentionally by design

00:16:39.360 were guys who were already doing something,

00:16:41.440 who have proven their salt.

00:16:43.380 But what we feel like needed to be conveyed

00:16:45.660 to the public as an example

00:16:48.340 and as an example of hope, to give people hope,

00:16:54.180 is not just that there are guys doing things

00:16:56.060 because that was already happening,

00:16:57.080 but guys on the right

00:16:59.200 as tribal as it is

00:17:01.080 as fractured

00:17:01.740 not only are capable

00:17:03.240 of exercising courage

00:17:04.560 and doing things

00:17:05.200 but are also capable

00:17:06.500 of doing things together

00:17:08.000 so we're welcoming people in

00:17:09.440 we were talking about this

00:17:10.520 in the kitchen

00:17:11.180 we have to be graceful

00:17:12.480 over COVID

00:17:13.400 people who woke up

00:17:14.680 10 minutes later

00:17:15.480 and the people

00:17:16.700 who woke up before them

00:17:17.520 weren't treated with

00:17:18.400 come on in

00:17:18.880 come on in

00:17:19.320 you weren't with us

00:17:20.360 from the beginning

00:17:20.920 and we can't be the same

00:17:22.400 with issues of faith

00:17:23.480 or politics

00:17:24.040 we've got to be like

00:17:24.640 finally you're awake

00:17:25.660 come on in

00:17:26.400 same with it like the israel thing yeah it's like well you um you you know the last three years you

00:17:32.040 weren't with us or whatever it's like dude people are on different timelines like nick fuentes

00:17:35.860 was kind to me he was kind to me um i was on in terms of the red pill journey and that's the

00:17:43.340 first thing he told me when the first time i met him i was like hey nick i um and i said this i was

00:17:48.600 like hey i can't even remember because i i do a lot of speaking i'm a pastor a podcaster all that

00:17:53.920 like um but i think in the back of my mind i can't remember exactly but i've got like a nagging

00:17:58.880 feeling i think i might have named you at some time in the past negatively and i now have come

00:18:05.640 to an awareness about and his response was you know what we're all on different legs of the red

00:18:10.640 pill journey it was a gracious response like could could you imagine like you know like if we are

00:18:17.620 sitting here saying well we were three years ahead of you right and nick's sitting there like that's

00:18:21.760 cute right try 13 years you know 15 years like he's like when i was seven i had already read you

00:18:28.680 know like and so it's like here's the deal um any any cause for pride somebody else has more

00:18:36.440 justification so i'm thinking about this conversation about how are we not i know a lot

00:18:42.740 of people are going you're so far right nxr guys um which we're not we're not we are moderate

00:18:47.980 centrist. But there's nothing wrong with being far right. And the reality is this, is that, yeah,

00:18:51.500 if you look back to our founding fathers, to George Washington, to John Adams, to the men,

00:18:56.640 the Puritans, the Reformers, the medieval theologians, the early church fathers,

00:19:03.420 we are moderate on so many issues. And the point that we need to understand is, at what point are

00:19:09.340 we allowed to be angry? At what point are we allowed to be, quote, extreme? If we look back

00:19:15.180 to the previous generations who were starting wars over much smaller moral issues.

00:19:20.800 A tea tax.

00:19:21.540 A tea tax. 1.00

00:19:22.400 Or, you know, they would call feminist witches. 1.00

00:19:25.140 They would call Muslims barbarians. 0.98

00:19:27.740 You know, they had strict standards about, you know, people would be, you know, put to 0.93

00:19:32.180 death for breaking the Sabbath.

00:19:33.940 I mean, the standards were such at a greater moral level than we are today.

00:19:39.840 And so at what point are we allowed to, especially young men who are having children, who are

00:19:44.760 seeing that we're standing on a cliff and going, am I allowed to panic yet? Am I allowed to be

00:19:50.980 frustrated? Am I allowed to go, I'm not going to fall off that cliff. I'm going to push back

00:19:55.080 and brutally, intensely, it's going to feel intense. And I think it feels intense because

00:20:00.440 we talked about feminism, how it's kind of saturated the society and we're breaking

00:20:05.580 relationships off with one another because of fear. That's an effeminate response. 1.00

00:20:10.040 um and so it is saturated so much of our the way we live and that i'm afraid that that guy's too 0.83

00:20:17.340 far right so i'm going to cancel him that's again that's what women do yeah um and it doesn't mean 0.95

00:20:23.100 that there's not any place appropriate for canceling i do think there is but we are so 1.00

00:20:28.340 open-handed and quick with that movement that we continue with this endless fragmentation when in

00:20:34.940 reality we need to be again as we are here at nxr we're creedal not confessional um we are we are

00:20:41.700 anybody that that can stand with the historic christian creeds we go yes explain that real

00:20:46.060 quick um because that's important i want people to know yeah who we are we're creedal not confessional

00:20:51.100 yes and amen why yeah what is that so creedal means that we're going to hand you know stand

00:20:55.200 with the apostles creed or the athanasius creed the nicene creed the standard creeds of historic

00:20:59.180 christianity where we can all say yes and amen whether you're roman catholic eastern orthodox

00:21:03.060 generally speaking or protestant and and right now i don't need to be having the theological

00:21:09.260 debates like calvin and i we've been friends for actually several years now and we have

00:21:13.180 theological debates we've had them over the phone many times but right now is not the time we don't 1.00

00:21:17.360 have the luxury or the privilege to be having those conversations right now while the barbarians 0.84

00:21:22.080 are at the gate while the babies are being slaughtered while immigrants are flooding and 0.97

00:21:26.620 and producing national theft while- 0.96

00:21:28.780 Protestants and Catholics hating each other, 0.73

00:21:32.020 that's a reward. 1.00

00:21:33.900 That's a luxury.

00:21:34.780 You have to earn it. 0.97

00:21:36.780 You're a Protestant, you want to hate Catholics, 0.98

00:21:38.700 you're a Catholic, you want to hate Protestants. 0.99

00:21:40.640 Great, me too. 0.99

00:21:42.040 You have to earn it.

00:21:43.140 And the way that you earn it is first,

00:21:45.540 your wife and kids have to be safe, right? 1.00

00:21:48.000 So you want to argue with the Catholics, 0.98

00:21:49.700 you want to argue with the Protestants. 0.99

00:21:51.160 Great, that's your reward. 0.96

00:21:52.880 That's your consolation prize for winning.

00:21:55.140 Yeah, that's a privilege of a winning society.

00:21:57.380 And in answer to your question of, are we allowed or when are we allowed?

00:21:59.940 We're allowed when we say we're allowed. We are the men of society. We say we're allowed

00:22:03.140 to stand up against all of this degeneracy, this indecency, this debauchery now. We draw the lines

00:22:08.420 in the sand. And that's what we haven't been doing. That's what we need to get back to.

00:22:11.780 And Elon Musk tweets this meme all the time of the left moving further and further and further.

00:22:15.780 So relatively speaking, we are far right, because we've stayed in the centre-right all this time.

00:22:19.540 The left have gone so far to the hard left that, all things relative, we are far right.

00:22:23.940 Right. Well, and we don't hold any positions that our forefathers held. I mean, this is honestly

00:22:29.420 true. Like if you look back at the positions of George Washington, or you look back at the

00:22:33.320 positions of the Puritans, any, you know, 1620 on, onward in, in, uh, American history,

00:22:39.460 I truly am truly am a moderate. And, you know, for people to get frustrated with our positions,

00:22:47.860 you just go, you go back even to the early 1900s, even to the late 1800s and, and everybody

00:22:52.940 universally is more extreme. In fact, I would look back at an atheist left liberal who is now

00:22:59.720 more conservative than many of our current conservatives.

00:23:03.460 Than MAGA. 1.00

00:23:04.520 Like, think about, I always say this example in feminist culture or modesty. If you had an 1800s 1.00

00:23:12.300 woman who was an atheist leftist woman, and she saw what conservative Christian women wear today, 0.98

00:23:21.540 She would be appalled. 0.57

00:23:22.760 Dale, you can go back to the 1950s.

00:23:24.200 There's BBC clips of interviewing vox pop's

00:23:26.400 random women on the street in Britain saying,

00:23:28.280 what do you think about feminism? 1.00

00:23:29.440 No, no, no. 1.00

00:23:30.100 A woman's place is in the home, 1.00

00:23:31.300 taking care of her children 1.00

00:23:32.080 and her husband in the house. 1.00

00:23:33.500 This is common everyday opinions.

00:23:35.780 Fast forward 50, 70 years later,

00:23:37.700 suddenly that scene is old fashioned and outdated.

00:23:39.920 Yeah, because people will be like,

00:23:40.700 you want to go back to Constantine?

00:23:42.220 It's like, well, you know, like...

00:23:44.040 A man can dream.

00:23:46.000 A guy can dream.

00:23:47.300 But no, but like, you're absolutely right.

00:23:49.580 Early 1900s.

00:23:51.160 Early 1900s, nothing that we're saying is foreign.

00:23:54.920 And with those things, I would like,

00:23:56.920 these are four to kind of like,

00:23:59.440 well, what are the things?

00:24:00.360 What are your positions?

00:24:01.360 There's a million different things that we can talk about.

00:24:03.240 And we all talk about them on our shows.

00:24:04.940 And I would say CR Publish works.

00:24:06.580 But in terms of like, what are four like key ingredients

00:24:10.240 that in many ways define NXR and make it unique?

00:24:14.260 One is that it is exclusively Christian, exclusively, right? 0.52

00:24:19.080 So like you think of TPUSA. 0.94

00:24:21.160 am fest right we all appreciate charlie kurt we're not going to sit here and crap on a guy

00:24:26.920 who was um a patriot an american hero a christian and a martyr to boot so we're not going to crap

00:24:33.660 on charlie kurt we appreciate him that said this is just being objective not trying to be overly

00:24:38.240 critical just just naming what it was charlie kurt would platform gays charlie kurt uh would

00:24:43.620 platform hindus barefoot hindus vivette spoke at am fest uh he would platform um of course orthodox

00:24:50.820 Jews. I'm not even speaking about blood, ethnic Jews. I'm talking about religious Jews who believe

00:24:55.800 that Jesus is currently burning in hell, right? There's your Ben Shapiro's, Mormons, Glenn Beck, 0.96

00:25:01.140 atheists, James Lindsay. So what is not too far beyond the pale for Charlie Kirk's ministry,

00:25:07.840 TPUSA, during his lifetime? I'm not talking about what it's devolved into afterwards,

00:25:12.200 which isn't great, but I'm talking about in peak TPUSA lore, when Charlie Kirk is at the helm

00:25:18.660 and he's at his best atheist is cool uh hindu is cool uh orthodox jew is cool

00:25:25.020 mormon is cool um uh atheist is cool um and then and then certainly um boss babes three-piece

00:25:33.420 pantsuit you know like let's you know nothing nothing will invigorate and inspire young men 0.70

00:25:39.420 more than getting a uh a busty blonde boss babe on the stage to tell them you know uh how how to

00:25:46.300 live so like all those all those things were there all of them were there and we're still looking at

00:25:51.560 that uh we're not going to rewrite the story so we're not going to lionize charlie beyond what

00:25:57.240 he deserved but we're also sure as hell not going to demonize him he was a good man and so we're

00:26:02.180 looking at it with objectivity and saying net positive unquestionably net positive but if you

00:26:09.580 like many are coming out of the woodwork these days saying you know charlie kirk maxine like

00:26:15.340 charlie kirk you know and he was great you are charlie kirk i am charlie kirk and and you and

00:26:21.560 you hate us there's not one standard that charlie had that our standard isn't higher right again

00:26:28.620 like going back to where i said like the apostle paul you know arguing well like oh this person is

00:26:32.800 a hebrew oh i am more circumcised on the eighth day son of affairs like like i i must be out of

00:26:37.740 my mind to speak this way but everyone at our conference is coming up in november every single

00:26:42.620 one of them, we have eight speakers, they all would agree with the Apostles' Creed. They all

00:26:46.580 would at least profess a Christian faith. That doesn't mean that they all have perfect lives. 1.00

00:26:51.500 That doesn't mean that all of them are worthy of sainthood. But every single one of them would

00:26:58.280 agree with the historic creeds, would at least have a profession, a public profession of Christian

00:27:03.100 faith. There are no Mormons, no Hindus, no Orthodox Jews, no atheists, certainly. And you know what

00:27:09.660 else. All eight of them have a profession of Christian faith. All eight of them also are

00:27:14.980 dudes, no boss babes. And not because we're misogynist and hate women, but we just realize

00:27:21.380 that we've kind of had enough of that. We all have women that we adore. We have mothers,

00:27:29.680 we have wives, we have daughters, but we recognize that the need of the hour is for masculine

00:27:35.900 leadership and so we're not going to just sit there and say we need men to be men and uh and

00:27:41.700 introducing our next speaker ali beth stuckey like yeah we're kind of we're trying to not be

00:27:47.800 hypocritical right but you know and this is uh the interesting part is it's because we actually love

00:27:53.180 women yes you said you know it's not that we hate women no we actually love women and want what's

00:27:57.060 best for them which is sort of the irony in so many things that that we deal with i i find it

00:28:01.020 with israel where it's like man if i'd been listened to about israel i got called anti-semite

00:28:04.740 all over the place i think my advice would have saved them a lot of pain and suffering over the

00:28:08.980 last couple years i actually want what's best for them just like i want what's best for even the

00:28:12.660 people who disagree with me here in america it's it's almost this imposition of uh you must you

00:28:17.920 know hate these people if you're not giving them what they want or doing whatever they say whoever

00:28:22.220 it is whatever group of people it is and i think just like reorienting and going no this is actually

00:28:27.420 the best way for everybody moving forward uh and it's in in the same way if you talk about going

00:28:33.200 too far to the right you know there are times where because i do a three-hour show and for one

00:28:37.260 thing you know people say dude that's insane how do you do a three-hour show yeah that's impressive

00:28:41.500 well it's the easiest job in the world to me i mean i just i sit and i talk for three hours and

00:28:46.260 uh and it's just built different you know it's if you have the skill it's very easy but it's like

00:28:51.240 i could not do that if i was concealing what i really believed i couldn't lie for three hours

00:28:55.680 a day five days a week that would be uh that's a good point to keep it all straight if it wasn't

00:29:00.900 true i don't have it all straight you wouldn't be able to do it to lie about stuff it's infantilized

00:29:04.960 culture isn't it it's when the child says why do you hate me daddy why do you love me i want i want

00:29:08.420 mcdonald's like when you want something the person doesn't give that that thing to you you think they

00:29:12.760 hate you right yeah that's what the culture is now unless you affirm people in their trans ideology

00:29:17.520 unless you affirm people in their dislike of jesus christ you hate them it's like no we love you we

00:29:22.600 want you to come to right and and what we're doing i mean the premier example of that the supreme

00:29:27.140 example is is our heavenly father absolutely how many times have we prayed for something

00:29:31.280 and god does not answer the prayer the way that we would have answered it for ourselves had we

00:29:36.040 been god like there are so many i mean even country western guys like 15 years ago understood

00:29:42.900 this principle right i thank god for unanswered prayers yeah right like all the things that i

00:29:48.980 wanted that the lord by providence said no i prayed for this he didn't give it to me why um because

00:29:56.660 he's withholding something from me because he's trying to exasperate me he's a good father because

00:30:00.920 he's a good father i want something that he knows is not in the interest of my eternal joy peace

00:30:09.160 happiness and he cares more about my holiness than he cares about my temporal happiness that's

00:30:14.620 the key yoram hazani i think it's our mutual friend that always so i can't say he's a friend

00:30:19.980 he has been my friend over the years i don't i don't have any hatred or disdain for him

00:30:24.300 But as you know, he's recruiting a lot of guys on the right for nationalism, which I agree with, but a nationalism that always carves out some kind of thing for Israel. 0.60

00:30:39.480 And I just don't like it. 0.94

00:30:40.200 Which is his priority, which makes sense.

00:30:41.660 I don't blame him for caring about that.

00:30:43.600 I would do the same thing if I lived in Israel.

00:30:46.040 But he said to me, Trump's strength is coalition building.

00:30:48.800 I thought that's absolutely spot on.

00:30:50.080 That's how Trump got to where he is.

00:30:51.180 He assembled his Avengers.

00:30:52.400 He got into power.

00:30:53.620 And we're trying to do the same,

00:30:54.820 but we're coalition building,

00:30:55.740 not around Israel,

00:30:56.600 not around politics,

00:30:58.220 but around Jesus Christ.

00:30:59.200 That's right.

00:30:59.640 And that's what this is all about.

00:31:01.020 Yeah, a few things I want to add.

00:31:01.780 Rally to the king.

00:31:02.720 Yeah, a few things I want to add

00:31:03.960 when you were saying, Harrison,

00:31:05.220 about protecting our women.

00:31:07.260 The reality is,

00:31:08.060 is that this is a war.

00:31:09.280 This is a culture war.

00:31:10.300 And in the same way

00:31:11.100 that it is sinful 0.98

00:31:12.240 to put your women out

00:31:13.340 to fight a man's battle, 1.00

00:31:15.240 it is equally sinful 1.00

00:31:16.640 to put women out 0.78

00:31:17.620 as the front runners.

00:31:19.120 And I think that for the last...

00:31:20.380 Because politics, real quick,

00:31:21.640 because politics is fighting.

00:31:22.800 Yeah. Politics is war without the bullets. Correct. And it's a form of authority and it's

00:31:28.280 a form of power. And so it is loving to keep your women behind. And this is probably the fiercest 0.98

00:31:35.280 portion of this battle that we've faced in the history of America. I mean, we are the most

00:31:41.260 morally degenerate. I get threats, death threats, emails, voicemails, people visiting our church to

00:31:48.640 look for, I mean, it happens at a massive level. So when you get to this place, it is a loving

00:31:54.320 thing to do to keep your women back. Now, I want to talk about just this idea, Joel, that

00:31:59.800 what we're doing is that we're repealing this post-war consensus. 0.85

00:32:05.660 The 19th?

00:32:06.540 The 19th century.

00:32:08.520 Yeah, the 19th century. Well, this is, so people ask me, hey, Dale, are you going to go further

00:32:14.040 right. And I go, well, I think actually we've, we've, we've hit our wall. The brakes have been

00:32:19.180 hit. I agree. Let's talk about that. Yeah. And the reason is, is so in 1945, we know post-war

00:32:24.460 consensus, we developed all of these pendulum swinging realities as a result of, we don't want

00:32:30.100 to be nationalistic. We don't want to be Hitler. We don't want to be all these things. And we

00:32:33.460 became multicultural, tolerant, feminism, uh, democracy. And everything worked out perfect.

00:32:39.400 And everything is falling apart, right?

00:32:41.700 So we won the war and everything's on fire.

00:32:46.320 I think the church started first with repealing,

00:32:50.200 you know, it kind of came to the cusp in the 1970s

00:32:53.320 where we passed abortion.

00:32:54.600 And that was like, wow, lowest point of American history.

00:32:57.760 And then the church woke up and we started pushing.

00:33:00.160 So abortion started to be pushed back.

00:33:03.060 And then we started pushing against feminism.

00:33:05.800 And then we started pushing against pornography. 0.84

00:33:09.400 And then we started pushing back against, you know, Israel. 0.84

00:33:14.100 And then now we're starting... 0.96

00:33:15.000 Yeah, Jewish supremacy. 0.78

00:33:16.220 Now we're starting to push back against immigration, getting forms around nationalism. 0.79

00:33:20.220 And the last thing I think we're pushing back on is this egalitarian view of race,

00:33:25.720 the removal of distinctions around sex, around race, around religion.

00:33:32.340 And these are the more sensitive topics.

00:33:34.540 They're very difficult to talk about.

00:33:36.020 And on that note, and that's why I was saying, you know, I'll do a three hour show. And at the end of it, like last week, my producer came in, he was like, that was a pretty racially charged episode. And I was like, oh, was it? Darn. You know, because obviously I never mean for it to be. But, you know, I said, I think, did I go to, did I say something I shouldn't have said? And, but I think, no, we're the ones under attack. We're the ones who are literally being genocided with people out there who have plans in operation. They're where they're like, we are destroying the Western society.

00:34:03.040 saying that out loud who was the guy who literally had like a sticky note with a ticker sblc matt

00:34:07.840 it was literally keeping track of the dropping white population celebrating it like yeah like

00:34:14.900 like it was not making it up and and so they hate white people it's like that's the bad thing that's

00:34:20.500 the offense everything i'm doing is defensive i'm not going to be you know deliberately hateful to

00:34:25.080 anybody or deliberately mean to anybody but you know we're the ones being under we're the ones

00:34:30.060 under attack we're the ones who are having our homes destroyed we don't have anywhere else to go

00:34:34.180 this isn't an option for us and we're the ones being imposed upon so you know when you talk about

00:34:38.640 going too far right um you know i think just sticking with the founding fathers not being

00:34:43.740 distracted by any german nationalist movements in the 30s like that's not us but we we have our

00:34:49.980 our models they're george washington thomas jefferson our models are not from um 80 years

00:34:55.540 ago on the other side of the pond, our models in this American context are from like 280 years ago

00:35:03.480 right here in our home. Like we have all the exemplars we need, both on the American and

00:35:11.620 America first political side of the aisle, and those same men also on the Christ is King, Christian,

00:35:19.040 christ supremacy religious side of the aisle i i i can appeal to my own heritage and that's

00:35:29.360 something that i think is so compelling is we're not pursuing something that's novel we're not

00:35:34.720 pursuing something that's innovative and we're also not pursuing something that's foreign we are

00:35:40.940 pursuing our own heritage we're talking about something that is not something that's never

00:35:45.400 happened before we're talking about something that's happened before it's happened here and

00:35:49.960 it's happened uh fairly recently so it's it's it's here um it's been done before it's been done here

00:35:57.520 before and it's been done here recently before this is not crazy but isn't in a weird way doesn't

00:36:03.600 it make it more difficult to pitch that because it's easy to pitch a revolutionary new concept

00:36:07.620 that's why yes and and this sort of gets to the heart of what we're talking about is the fact that

00:36:11.080 the dsa is making major inroads right now socialism and communism is definitely on the come up and 0.99

00:36:16.620 you know it'd be absurd to to act like that's not the case or to write it off go these stupid 0.99

00:36:20.640 socialist communists they'll see and it's like no they won't they will first they'll wreck your 1.00

00:36:24.800 whole country and put you in a googlog then maybe 80 years from now they'll see right but even that

00:36:29.100 is uh so i mean this is a real danger and we have to actually show concern for the economic well-being

00:36:35.900 of young people you can't just say bah you're a spoiled you know pull yourself up by your boot

00:36:39.880 straps know it's a real problem the issue is it's very easy to go oh the society we're in is

00:36:45.340 terrible we have this new idea that's never been successfully tried or never been actually tried

00:36:50.400 before so but prompt but you know trust us it's all new and it's this old system we're going to

00:36:54.860 get rid of it and do something new that's an easy pitch to make it's almost harder to go we need a

00:36:58.940 revolution to get back where we were we need a revolution it's it's weird that we're like but no

00:37:04.680 we literally need a reset back to how we were. And like all of our problems, literally every

00:37:09.860 problem in America could be solved with just resolute enforcement of already existing law.

00:37:14.740 And we would live in paradise.

00:37:16.020 It would be paradise.

00:37:17.240 They'd be deported. It would be-

00:37:19.360 It's actually, it's so complicated. No, it's actually really simple.

00:37:23.560 We don't even need new laws. We literally just need them enforced.

00:37:26.900 Right.

00:37:27.020 Well, and there's this element of, I think this generation is a generation of recovery,

00:37:31.780 retrieval and reformation now and then application and then application which is moving forward and

00:37:37.480 i think right now you have this back moving forward correct looking back moving forward

00:37:41.380 and because we've dipped below morally and uh intellectually so low we are now having to go

00:37:48.280 okay let's work our way back up to at least the founders and then the application now that we're

00:37:54.600 in 2026 technology has changed uh there's we do live in a different world in a different time and

00:37:59.720 I don't think we can just pull back to 1700s, but how do we take the general theonomic principles,

00:38:06.080 the general principles of their government, of their morals, of their values, of their culture,

00:38:10.460 of society, and then now apply them today? I think that's what we need to do. And it shouldn't be

00:38:18.780 difficult because, yeah, it has been done before. It's possible. It's also not extreme. And everybody

00:38:25.400 in this nation just celebrated the 250th anniversary of this country and appreciates

00:38:30.260 men like George Washington. And so it really, we are, again, not extreme. We are Christian,

00:38:39.740 historic, biblical moderates. Right. So two big ideas that I wanted to cover in the episode, 0.92

00:38:45.500 and we've been covering it, but just to put ahead on it. One, the problem on the right,

00:38:53.880 what is the problem? Why are we about to get crushed? Why do we deserve it? What's a clarion

00:38:57.860 call, a warning to where we could repent with a broader coalition? What can we change? How can we

00:39:03.960 fix it so that our families are safe and that we're not thrown to the wolves and experience

00:39:11.280 four or eight more incredibly dark years where our friends are thrown in prison, where some of

00:39:16.320 us might be thrown in prison? So probably on the right, I'll start there real quick to say it is

00:39:22.180 as concisely as possible. One, we are far too comfortable with ending relationships.

00:39:28.760 Our online presence has again and again trumped our private friendships. Friendship is not esteemed

00:39:36.380 enough by the right. We are just too comfortable throwing away friendship. Friendship should

00:39:42.640 matter. Friendship should matter. Especially publicly. We shouldn't be doing it publicly.

00:39:45.900 You might have conversations of concern privately, but publicly is something that it fractures

00:39:52.580 the movement and we can't afford fracturing.

00:39:54.180 One of the reasons we're fractured is because we're comfortable with being fractured.

00:39:57.460 It wouldn't happen if we weren't comfortable with it happening.

00:40:00.460 And to say we're comfortable with fracturing is to say that we are comfortable with losing

00:40:04.480 friends.

00:40:05.520 And losing the war.

00:40:06.240 We are not prioritizing friendship.

00:40:07.820 Yeah.

00:40:07.960 You cannot lose, you cannot win a war as a fractured army.

00:40:12.260 I mean, we truly do.

00:40:13.480 which kind of shows that like we're all sounding the alarm in different ways but it actually reveals

00:40:17.840 some measure of hypocrisy because we're all saying like we're on the cliff and and the wheels are

00:40:22.780 coming off and there's impending doom right around the corner but but then we're all comfortable with

00:40:28.500 our public social media actions knowing the inevitable result will be whittling down our

00:40:34.400 platoon that ensures our destruction which essentially gives gives the game away it's saying

00:40:40.140 while I'm sounding the alarm and ringing the gong saying, you know, the sky is falling,

00:40:47.700 the sky is falling. I don't really believe it because if I really believed it, I would move

00:40:53.560 heaven and earth to ensure that I don't lose a single fighting man in order to fend off this

00:41:02.120 impending doom. So one problem is we're too comfortable losing friendships. That's one

00:41:05.780 thing on the right. We're too fractured because we actually don't love people. We actually don't

00:41:09.580 love people second thing um we are i mean there's a million different subgroups but if we look at a

00:41:15.080 30 30 000 foot view and getting two big um two big divides you've got maga america first right

00:41:21.860 you've got um and of course technically you still have the neocons i i kind of don't even consider

00:41:26.740 them but i probably should because there actually is oh they've sort of just taken over maga i mean

00:41:31.920 yeah but there is a world in which you know maga just become you know synthesizes maybe with the

00:41:37.220 neocon. It doesn't just become neocon, but a synthesis of something in between your Marco

00:41:41.240 Rubio's, you know, whatever. But the point is like neocons, MAGA, America first. And here's

00:41:47.660 the problem though, but let's say MAGA and neocon synthesized and looking at two groups and to

00:41:53.240 change the language a little bit, America first, MAGA, you know, whatever that is. Let's just say

00:41:59.000 new right, old right. On the old right, or you could call it the establishment. On the establishment

00:42:05.280 side. And I want to be objective here. I want to be fair. I think that Ben Shapiro, I despise

00:42:13.480 not him as a person, but his views, what he's doing, what he's communicating. I despise it. 0.68

00:42:19.980 I hate his behavior. I don't hate him, but I hate what he's doing. I absolutely hate it. 0.98

00:42:25.900 I think the Lord Jesus Christ hates it. So I think I'm in good company in hating the messaging

00:42:32.500 gene of ben shapiro hating lies hating deception that's right that said i want to be fair even to

00:42:38.540 my opponents i want to be fair and objective um ben shapiro is probably a good husband

00:42:44.240 he's probably a good dad i i bet you if i had gun to my head if i had to guess

00:42:50.240 right i loved it just sit here my sin would love this i would not love this but the sinful side of

00:42:55.680 joel would love to say and i bet he's cheating on his wife and i bet he's you know abusing his kids

00:43:00.820 which is what everybody does to us everyone does to us check his hard drive yeah it's like dude

00:43:06.200 i haven't by the grace of god i haven't looked at porn in in you know 15 to 20 years like

00:43:13.840 but i'm not going to do the same thing that our opponents do to us check his hard drive like no

00:43:19.440 i bet you that um ben shapiro gun to my head i bet he has never committed adultery i bet you

00:43:24.760 ben shapiro given the choice between ben shapiro and i want to be respectful here so i'm not

00:43:29.460 actually going to name someone on this side because this is more our team and c.a everything

00:43:34.260 i was saying just a moment ago i don't want to lose friendships i could say this on the phone

00:43:38.240 to someone privately but you can imagine use your imagination for a second pick someone on the

00:43:43.340 america first new right side okay um given the choice between ben shapiro um in this hypothetical

00:43:50.640 i only i only have two choices me and my wife are going to have to go out of town overnight

00:43:54.880 we have to and um and ben shapiro is going to babysit our kids or this figure on the new right

00:44:03.080 and this guy agrees with me on a lot of things he agrees with me about the boss babe feminism

00:44:09.160 he agrees with me about israel he agrees with a lot of things but this guy um about every other

00:44:15.920 week has a sex scandal right i'm picking ben shapiro to babysit my kids so this is how i see

00:44:21.840 i said what's the problem the right one we're too comfortable with the fracturing um we don't

00:44:25.780 esteem friendship enough uh two we are subdivided in a million categories see see my point about

00:44:32.280 fracturing but if we look 30 000 foot view big picture um you got two big groups old right

00:44:38.080 right miga uh new right it calls itself maga but but kind of miga new right right america first

00:44:45.200 and and with that the new right and the old right on the old right to be fair right be fair to your

00:44:51.600 opponents, you actually have some people that as individual persons at the personal level

00:44:57.660 actually have some good morals. They don't cheat on their wives. They're probably good dads.

00:45:05.720 You actually have some personal virtue, personal morality, character. I'm just going to say it

00:45:12.320 because that's what they're saying about the new right. And here's the thing. I actually want to

00:45:15.680 make progress. I actually want to win. So I'm actually going to concede the points that they're

00:45:20.120 making that are true they say well the new right is a bunch of degenerates and here it is i'm saying

00:45:24.760 it publicly they're right they're right so what you have is you have the old right that ideologically

00:45:31.620 is completely sold out but at a personal level um there's actually some good men you have the

00:45:38.620 new right that ideologically is pure but personally are degenerates and so we're coming in here and

00:45:47.760 here's the deal what what does winning look like for us right as we're mapping out our goals which

00:45:52.800 we're doing we're talking we you know we met this morning what are we trying to accomplish what are

00:45:56.640 our goals right this is just the podcast but nxr behind the scenes on the business side on the

00:46:01.860 strategy side the ambition what are we trying to do for the lord jesus christ to bring glory and

00:46:06.960 honor to the father to for the nation to to return to christian faith how are we going to get there

00:46:12.000 winning for us does not actually look like these two sides the big pieces old right new right losing

00:46:18.820 and and we're sitting here it's like we uh we've got uh 17 friends who won if 17 of us win and

00:46:29.360 everyone else loses guess what we lose we're going to jail our kids don't have a future we are

00:46:35.600 screwed so our goal right we want to give you the lay of the land what's the problem on the right

00:46:40.080 You got the old right, they have some virtues,

00:46:42.740 but ideologically they're captured.

00:46:44.240 You got the new right, they have some purity

00:46:46.100 in the ideological arena, but at the personal level,

00:46:49.640 they need to get their lives together.

00:46:51.380 Stop cheating on your wives, stop getting drunk,

00:46:53.980 stop going to clubs, stop caring more about looks, Maxine,

00:46:57.780 than actual virtue.

00:46:59.780 What are we doing here, right?

00:47:01.140 I can make the physiognomy arguments

00:47:02.700 and I think there's some truth to it, right?

00:47:04.580 I actually think that being impure on the inside

00:47:07.100 actually does, in God's world, eventually bubble out on the outside, right? You got some ugly, 0.94

00:47:13.220 somebody with a complete virtue vacuum, some libtard woman, and it turns out, oh, also, 1.00

00:47:19.780 she's got blue hair. She's 70 pounds overweight, right? She's actually ugly. There's something to 1.00

00:47:24.980 the principle of the witch looks like a hag. She's dirty on the inside and the outside. So I 1.00

00:47:30.020 understand, you know, the looks maxing, whatever. It's true as far as it goes. But at the end of

00:47:35.720 the day uh we have vanity on the new right it's beyond just the arguments of physiognomy it's be

00:47:41.660 like it's beyond just snow white and the witch it's it's pure vanity um it's it's pure indulgence 0.80

00:47:47.520 it's it's gay it is ego greed that's right so so we need we have a virtue character vacuum 0.98

00:47:55.500 with right positions and then we over here have um absolutely impure traitorous positions 0.96

00:48:04.300 but but still a veneer of virtue that they can appeal to and rightly point at the lack over here

00:48:11.240 which is why nobody listens to the new right because you got ben shapiro it's not ben shapiro

00:48:16.700 lying does he lie yes but on this point he's telling the truth when ben shapiro and glenn

00:48:21.480 back point to the new right and say they're a bunch of um larping degenerate boys yeah they

00:48:28.080 kind of have a point and this is so nxr is trying to bridge the gap and not just win in isolation

00:48:33.160 but appeal to both sides and say brothers come you guys change your views and repent before the

00:48:41.300 lord jesus christ and to your constituents that you've been lying to that you've been betraying

00:48:45.900 you guys grow up just get your lives in order to restore the the social kingship of christ isn't a

00:48:52.260 policy decision it's an internal decision we have to live with christian virtues it's as simple as

00:48:56.680 that yeah and this is having a noble christian right is is a heavy work because it's not just

00:49:02.780 ideas which are easy to hold but to actually have the character which is you know joel and i often

00:49:07.520 talk about about being pastors uh me and calvin have talked about this too it's difficult to do

00:49:12.720 them both but one thing it does do is that it actually forces us constantly to be under higher

00:49:18.100 scrutiny to higher degree not just to the internet but to our own congregations to live people yeah

00:49:23.760 to have real people to have real healthy marriages that people are observing to have faithful

00:49:28.160 children that are walking because my church will fire me correct my church loves me but my church

00:49:33.660 is um is not biased they love me i cheat on my wife they remove me oh yeah and it's so there's

00:49:42.320 a lot of people that want to see us fail unfortunately and i think for that reason

00:49:47.200 it is all the more you know i often say this phrase don't sin don't die i say it to a lot

00:49:52.200 of the guys in our church it's a good phrase yeah don't sin don't die because right now it's like

00:49:56.660 you got to stay healthy you got to stay morally healthy you got you don't sin don't die and um

00:50:01.600 but what we're doing people are concerned because we're moving right but i think we've actually

00:50:06.960 stopped right meaning that i don't think we're gonna i think we've repealed most of the post-war

00:50:11.900 consensus at this point and i know it's been a journey of people going oh my gosh i can't believe

00:50:15.820 he's talking about race now are they gonna still keep going are they gonna keep going further are

00:50:19.700 are they going straight into you know 1938 germany exactly what's their real uh logical end

00:50:26.260 of like what do they really want are they just hiding their power levels are they saying this

00:50:30.540 much that's already controversial but secretly in in their signal chats uh what they really are

00:50:35.540 going for is auschwitz yeah what they're really going for like and that's the point is that i go

00:50:39.760 truly like we are we are not going back to to germany we are going back to the founding of

00:50:46.000 america we're going back to the great and godly men that we all look up to even in the founding

00:50:49.640 of america we're actually not going back even to that because we recognize it in god's providence

00:50:53.880 if we could get back they're great but we can't correct and we have to be honest about that there's

00:50:58.640 a sense in which we can't return we can return to the virtue to the principles to the general

00:51:02.700 equity yes but it will have to be applied in a new world right america is not the same people

00:51:07.820 it's not the same people now now about 100 million of those people need to go yeah um but even what

00:51:13.100 we're left with are not the same virtue not the same academic rigor not the same uh and so uh

00:51:19.060 application in the year of our Lord 2026 of 1700 principles will still be different than the 1700s

00:51:26.040 and we acknowledge that and we're going to talk about that this is going to be a multi-part

00:51:29.460 series with the four of us and we'll devote probably a whole episode to what is the application

00:51:35.300 of these timeless principles look like in a modern era because the Lord does that that's not just

00:51:42.180 that's not compromise that's not just pragmatism for the sake of the Lord actually does that the

00:51:46.760 Lord takes timeless truths, but applies them in fresh ways that meet the times. Go ahead.

00:51:52.820 Yeah. So my thing is, I think that people want to know where are the breaks? Where are the breaks

00:51:56.820 in this thing? And my thing is, again, I think we've repealed the vast majority of this post-war 0.91

00:52:03.840 consensus. And now the duty is to bring 100 million people this way. And that's the work

00:52:10.800 that we're setting our mind to. This might be too much of a big question. Maybe we need to

00:52:15.640 dedicate a an episode to this because this is what i've been trying to i'm trying to figure out

00:52:19.760 how to phrase it but my idea is people who believe in the constitution have to no longer be bound by

00:52:25.880 the strictures of the constitution so that we can save the constitution otherwise people who

00:52:30.380 genuinely hate the constitution are going to destroy it forever that's right that's so well

00:52:35.000 said and i don't know but i don't know how that gets into strategy and application let's let's do

00:52:40.080 that that's a that's a whole episode uh but what you said at the end that's kind of like a 30 000

00:52:45.200 the fit view but i want to dig deeper into that so so episode one just as a quick recap this is

00:52:49.820 the first episode if you're listening to a multi-part series with the four of us dale partridge

00:52:53.880 harrison smith uh calvin robinson and myself and um and we are just so that you know we are the

00:52:59.800 four primary host on the nxr studios network nxr stands for new christian right and so we're trying

00:53:06.740 to carve out that space knowing that um we are not the only guys um uh and we don't we certainly

00:53:13.460 don't want to be the only guys we want friends we want a broader coalition but we're trying to

00:53:18.120 carve out a path we're trying to pioneer the new christian right and so we are in xr studios we're

00:53:25.240 the four main hosts um we've got i do a show on monday and wednesday you've got a show on tuesday

00:53:29.960 dale you've got a show on friday harrison you've got a show on thursday calvin and uh we're doing

00:53:34.000 a conference in november uh november with other speakers that will be there as well um and and

00:53:38.320 some surprise speakers that we'll announce in the future that we're excited about uh but that's what

00:53:42.420 we're doing this is episode one main thing that we covered in episode one just as a recap is um

00:53:47.400 on the right politically culturally religiously in america on the right um we are in big trouble

00:53:54.480 we are about to get crushed we actually deserve the lord's judgment because of our sin um and what

00:54:00.920 are the big problems uh we just as a summary we said one we're too comfortable with fracturing

00:54:05.760 we don't esteem friendship number two we're quick to speak and slow to listen we should be slow to

00:54:12.680 speak and quick to listen especially when we're speaking publicly on twitter and then number two

00:54:16.980 we have a million different micro factions but two big ones at the 30 000 foot view you got the old

00:54:24.340 right the new right the old right has some personal character but terrible ideology betraying the

00:54:29.760 country and the new right has some of the correct positions a lot of the correct positions but the

00:54:35.640 degenerates so that's episode one the problem on the right and how we want to fix it episode two

00:54:41.080 let's make it um uh how far right are we going i want to get into that because i i said for a

00:54:47.400 moment and i never quite got got back there to finish the thought so let's make episode two

00:54:51.660 four pillars i want to talk about the four pillars there are literally hundreds of values

00:54:57.900 but with any movement any organization whether it's a church whether it's a business

00:55:02.620 every organization, every movement has hundreds of values, but you cannot prioritize hundreds of

00:55:10.160 things simultaneously. So what makes organizations or movements distinct from one another is not

00:55:15.640 their values, but their priorities, hundreds of values. And there could be this organization and

00:55:20.660 that like TPSA, we have profound disagreements, profound. But if we're saying values, not priorities,

00:55:26.440 but values, if they have, let's just say hypothetically, they have a thousand values

00:55:30.700 and we have a thousand values, we would probably overlap on 90% of them. They value prayer. We

00:55:37.460 value prayer. They value traditional family. We value traditional family. I'd like to think we're

00:55:44.320 a little bit more consistent, but we would share 90% of our values. But you can only really

00:55:50.400 prioritize, I would say, somewhere between maybe three up to about 10 different things.

00:55:57.960 You cannot pry words.

00:55:59.640 It's like highlight.

00:56:00.720 I remember as a teenager reading the Bible and highlighting my favorite verses.

00:56:04.460 And like the book of Romans, the book of James, the book of the Gospel of John,

00:56:09.400 I ended up highlighting the entire book, which did not help me.

00:56:14.540 When you emphasize everything, you emphasize nothing.

00:56:18.540 So what are the priorities of NXR, this new Christian right space

00:56:23.920 that we're trying to carve out that's bigger than just us?

00:56:27.260 And that answers the question of what's the end game?

00:56:31.540 Are you hiding power levels?

00:56:33.240 How far right are you really going to go?

00:56:35.380 And we can answer that question in episode two with the four pillars.

00:56:39.400 That's it for today.

00:56:40.500 Thank you guys so much for tuning in.

00:56:41.880 We hope you've been blessed, and we hope that you stick with us with this series.

00:56:48.000 America will either have Christ or it will have chaos.

00:56:52.220 For years, conservatives believed that Trump could reverse America's decline.

00:56:56.760 But after Trump, the right is now fractured, exhausted, and losing ground.

00:57:02.840 Endless infighting and electoral losses have exposed a deeper problem that politics alone cannot solve.

00:57:11.500 A nation that rejects Christ cannot be restored by mere personalities, grandstanding, or Christless conservatism.

00:57:20.980 So NXR Studio's first annual conference, America After Trump, brings together pastors, politicians, commentators, and Christians that are committed to strength, cooperation, and a durable future for the American right.

00:57:38.400 Complaining is not a strategy, and despair cannot be an option.

00:57:43.780 Christ is King. Let's live like it.

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The NXR Podcast - July 15, 2026

THE SPECIAL - A Good Faith Message to Men Like Andrew Wilson & John Doyle (w⧸Partridge, Smith & Robinson)

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