THE SPECIAL - A Good Faith Message to Men Like Andrew Wilson & John Doyle (w⧸Partridge, Smith & Robinson)
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In this episode, Pastor Dale Partridge, Calvin Robinson, Joe Gerasi, Joe Webin, and Harrison Smith discuss the current state of the American right-wing political, cultural, and religious right, and why they believe it's time to take charge.
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radical christian nationalist pastor joel webin joel webin i'm gonna talk about joel webin
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All right, here we are. I'm here with the team. This episode's important. We're going to be
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talking about kind of the lay of the land and what's happening on the religious political
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cultural right um the american right-wing politics culture religion uh we think there are some massive
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gaps some massive problems and although all of us are squarely right-wing and christian um we are
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very much concerned about uh our team and honestly if i had to if it was i'm not saying long term but
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just short-term, like, what do you think is going to happen in the next few years? I think we're
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cruising for a bruising. I think we're going to get our butts kicked. And I don't think that's
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just like some ambiguous, ethereal vibe. I think there are reasons for it. I think we deserve to
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get crushed good and hard because of our, and I'm going to use the word, because of our sin,
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because of real sin. And I want to talk about it. But before I do, let's just introduce the team,
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why the four of us, a lot of people maybe are tuning in for the first time,
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what we're trying to do together, because that kind of ties into the topic of this episode.
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So let's just start over here and introduce ourselves.
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Yeah, Dale Partridge, pastor of Kingsway Reform Church in Prescott, Arizona.
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I think people are looking for answers and hoping that we can provide them.
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I'm Harrison Smith, host of The War Room on Alex Jones Live,
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I'm a little intimidated, but yeah, absolutely.
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and sort of whatever happens in the next couple of months
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or else God only knows where it ends up from here.
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And you're the only one who's not a man of the cloth,
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you're the only one who's actually wearing the cloth.
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this is true go for it we can do some more the nations later father calvin robinson host of
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the common sense crusade and the next crusade here on nxr studios and i think the question
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we've been asking for so long is how far right is too far right yes we've been capitulating to
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the left and trying to appease the people who hate us and hate our lord and now it's about time
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to say actually no we're gonna go the whole way maybe that's the title of the episode that's great
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yes what say it again yeah how far right is too far right that so i think that all there's there's
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a lot to cover here but like what what is the real sin on the right why are we going to fail
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because it actually and we're not we're not there are some guys who like to be honest i think they
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actually want the right to fail and they're and they're on the right i'm not just talking about
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left toys with blue hair you know scissor sisters or whatever like i'm talking people who celebrated
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charlie kurt being an assassin no i'm talking about people who really are on the right they
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really are on our team in the broader sense um but they're not just predicting um a a um a a near
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failure but they're almost giddy about it like they're almost kind of like you know like they're
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like you know ironically like they're kind of and it's because just to be fair to them because because
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we know some of those guys they're good guys we like those guys um but i think there is a little
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bit of bitterness because they themselves personally were wrongfully disparaged for so
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long that they're kind of like, screw you. I hope you get cringed. Whereas like, I don't have that
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luxury. I have people who have disparaged me and they were wrong. And I was right. By the grace of
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God, God gets all the glory. I was right. They were wrong, right? Like the apostle Paul, I must be out
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of my mind to speak this way, but humor a little fool. So I was right. They were wrong. Here's the
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deal though it doesn't matter in my case and the reason why it doesn't matter is because i can't
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afford the luxury of the guys who said i was wrong getting crushed um and us going into four more
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years of darkness we forget how dark 2020 to 2020 i can't afford that and here's why i have five
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children and a six on the way right like i don't have like i don't have the luxury of i can wait
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it out you know i've um i'm i'm rich i'm um i'm i'm single i you know i'm insulated i know like
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every sunday morning that's one of the things by the way like being a pastor every sunday morning
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um people know where to find me if they want to hurt me oh yeah right they know where to find my
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family we've had threats at church yes so so i as much as like the sinful side of me would be
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sinfully gratified you know it's like i told you and this is what you get well what what my
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opponents would get also affects my children yeah so i can't afford the law so i'm not sitting here
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i told you so i'm here we're sitting here all of us are sitting here with um not an i told you so
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but with a last minute ditch effort please listen to reason a clarion call a final sounding of the
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alarm. The whole city is about to be rampaged. Please listen. So we need to talk about, I think,
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two big things. What is the problem? What is it that we've been saying, that we're still saying,
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that needs to be listened to? Where are the chinks in the armor? Where's the Achilles heel
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on the broader right? Why are we going to get crushed good and hard and deserve it, but by
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God's grace could maybe repent just in time and avoid that disaster? So that whole conversation,
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that's piece one piece two is what you said dale um and what you said calvin um are there any breaks
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on the train how far right are we going are we hiding our power levels is there is there secret
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positions that we actually what we really think but we're toning it down like that's really i
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think important for our listeners and especially those who are actually not a part of our audience
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but haven't yet been poisoned by our opponents so they're actually good faith there there are some
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of you, I know right now everything is so tribal, everything is so fractured, everyone, like you are
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being constantly told you have to pick a team, you have to pick a side, you have to take a label
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every single day pressured into that. But by the grace of God, there are actually still some of you,
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I believe some of you will listen to this episode and have not actually declared a major, have not
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actually chosen a side for you who are not our audience, but also have not been completely
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poisoned against us um and you're in that middle ground you're giving it a good faith hearing um i
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i actually want to address that second part of the episode the question of because because in your
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mind the burning question is probably look the things you're saying they're spicy they're a
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little out of my comfort zone but my big question is um but uh i could maybe get there but um but
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the moment that i did get there if i was willing to hear you out would you immediately then move
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50 more miles further right i actually think that's an important conversation so let's start
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with the weaknesses though why why why is the gop let's just start there um harrison why is the gop
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about to get crushed well how much time do we have on this episode i mean uh no it's it's we're
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absolutely about to get crushed the republican party is absolutely about to get crushed and
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the Democrats are not shy about what they intend to do. I mean, whether it's Gavin Newsom or James
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Carville or, or the radical blue haired lefties, I mean, they're the ones who are telling what the
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real plan is, which is they want to like round us up. Like it's, this isn't a joke. And when you
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talk about how dark things were from like 2020 through 2024, I was just watching a video from
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like 2022 and you do forget. And you watch a video from 2022 when it's just treated as obvious. It's
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like, you know, well, everybody who was on the right no longer has a channel now. So, you know,
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it's hard to find them and it's like we were banned we were i mean people were locked away
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from their family for years in solitary confinement it was brutal already and that was without the
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second trump administration which has done a lot to infuriate and enrage and engage the left
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but almost nothing to mitigate their power or you know stop their political uh ambitions that's the
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most dangerous thing is i feel like what the trump administration has done and i i want to give this
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a fair shake because i think some some of our opponents and i'm talking about this being an
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intramural battle so i i'm using that term opponents uh lightly these are guys that we love
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right like i'm i'll just name one here because he's a great example um andrew wilson i love
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andrew wilson i i do i think he does great work they're like everyone's a feminist right like
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conservative versus the left it's just like it's literally just like are you um on a scale of one
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to 10. Are you an 8.5 feminist or an 11? That's the only difference. He's one of the few guys
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on our team who actually, he and his wife are not feminists. Him and his wife both went on Joe
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Rogan and beat the hell out of feminism. I love that. You can't get me not to like him, right?
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He's our guy. He's a Christian. He's great. That said, I'm thinking, what would Andrew Wilson think
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if he listened to this probably won't but if he did um i want to give a fair shake the trump
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administration this second term has has literally saved people's lives j6 prisoners um exonerated
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um uh at least putting um a stop to at least holding the immigration like i mean tons of h1b
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still you know but but at least um at least there's been you know some work with ice and
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then some self-deportations and it's like it literally it bought us time but what you said
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is absolutely true um it's there's there has been a blessing i want to recognize that if we sit here
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and pretend like trump has done nothing it's not fair and we won't be taken fiercely by guys like
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andrew wilson guys like john doyle right i like john doyle too i disagree with some positions but
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i think he does a lot of good work he also has has given the one-two punch to feminism all these
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different things grateful for those guys if i sit here and say the trump administration has just
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been total crap and and like it's it's just one it's going to upset people that i think are
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winnable i don't think those relationships i'm not willing to say um i'm now officially from
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here on out counting out uh john doyle and andrew wilson i'm not willing to do that the right let's
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just be honest one of our weaknesses we are way too comfortable with losing friendships
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over petty disagreements in a moment it's like you're written off you're written off you're
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written off Gideon God was supernatural God keyword God was whittling down his army so that
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God would get the glory if God whittled down Gideon's army to 300 men and then Gideon on his
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own accord said still seems like too many right and then shot 290 of them in the face that's
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retarded that's suicidal I'm not going to do that so so to the Andrew Wilson crowd to the John Doyle
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crowd to those kinds of guys i want to say um trump has bought my six children time
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trump has given us um a chance at least a fighting chance that said trump has also because harrison's
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right kicked the hornet's nest without crushing it yeah meaning that although he bought us time
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today it may just actually enrage our enemies to where we get slaughtered even harder tomorrow
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was, I mean, I feel like we should talk about it in the past tense now, since we're almost
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halfway through and, you know, the midterms are likely not going to go our way. And I do have to
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say our way because there is a tendency now to go, oh, the whole left and right divide, that's fake
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actually, you know, elections don't mean anything. But as you point out, like I have kids. Yes. If,
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well what our schools are teaching has a direct impact on my life I can't just ignore that I
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can't just go well I'll vote for the left uh you know as a as a protest against Trump it's like
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no if the left gets in power my life tangibly gets worse you can't ignore that uh and the
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disappointment with Trump is I will never take away the fact that he I will no matter what Trump
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does I would always go back in time and vote for him because he released January Sixers some of
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those guys are my personal friends and they were spending the rest of their
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lives in jail until it totally falsely and some pro-life advocates as well who
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were arrested and absolutely yeah that's right brutal absolutely women praying
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outside of abortion yeah you're right but then it's like now we get this you
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know 1.2 billion dollar settlement form and it's the republicans who come along
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and suddenly decide that uh they they remember that they're supposed to be
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fiscally conservative and the one time that our side is supposed to benefit
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they put in you know put a stop to that so that's the frustration with me is
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trying to get through to the Republicans and the GOP, like, this is not a game. We don't have time
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to play, to do a little back and forth. If Trump doesn't deport all these people, the next president
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is going to give them all citizenship by the back door and open the border again, and it's over.
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This is a universal problem in the West, in that conservatives are conserving what the liberals
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have done before them. We need to go harder. We need to be more, well, traditionalist.
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Yeah, seize the initiative, actually progress to the right.
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But to answer the question of why aren't people with us,
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It's not like Harrison didn't already have a show.
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It's not like we're all three pastoring churches.
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All the guys we chose for NXR intentionally by design
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and as an example of hope, to give people hope,
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same with it like the israel thing yeah it's like well you um you you know the last three years you
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weren't with us or whatever it's like dude people are on different timelines like nick fuentes
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was kind to me he was kind to me um i was on in terms of the red pill journey and that's the
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first thing he told me when the first time i met him i was like hey nick i um and i said this i was
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like hey i can't even remember because i i do a lot of speaking i'm a pastor a podcaster all that
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like um but i think in the back of my mind i can't remember exactly but i've got like a nagging
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feeling i think i might have named you at some time in the past negatively and i now have come
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to an awareness about and his response was you know what we're all on different legs of the red
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pill journey it was a gracious response like could could you imagine like you know like if we are
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sitting here saying well we were three years ahead of you right and nick's sitting there like that's
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cute right try 13 years you know 15 years like he's like when i was seven i had already read you
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know like and so it's like here's the deal um any any cause for pride somebody else has more
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justification so i'm thinking about this conversation about how are we not i know a lot
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of people are going you're so far right nxr guys um which we're not we're not we are moderate
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centrist. But there's nothing wrong with being far right. And the reality is this, is that, yeah,
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if you look back to our founding fathers, to George Washington, to John Adams, to the men,
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the Puritans, the Reformers, the medieval theologians, the early church fathers,
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we are moderate on so many issues. And the point that we need to understand is, at what point are
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we allowed to be angry? At what point are we allowed to be, quote, extreme? If we look back
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to the previous generations who were starting wars over much smaller moral issues.
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Or, you know, they would call feminist witches.
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You know, they had strict standards about, you know, people would be, you know, put to
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I mean, the standards were such at a greater moral level than we are today.
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And so at what point are we allowed to, especially young men who are having children, who are
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seeing that we're standing on a cliff and going, am I allowed to panic yet? Am I allowed to be
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frustrated? Am I allowed to go, I'm not going to fall off that cliff. I'm going to push back
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and brutally, intensely, it's going to feel intense. And I think it feels intense because
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we talked about feminism, how it's kind of saturated the society and we're breaking
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relationships off with one another because of fear. That's an effeminate response.
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um and so it is saturated so much of our the way we live and that i'm afraid that that guy's too
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far right so i'm going to cancel him that's again that's what women do yeah um and it doesn't mean
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that there's not any place appropriate for canceling i do think there is but we are so
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open-handed and quick with that movement that we continue with this endless fragmentation when in
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reality we need to be again as we are here at nxr we're creedal not confessional um we are we are
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anybody that that can stand with the historic christian creeds we go yes explain that real
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quick um because that's important i want people to know yeah who we are we're creedal not confessional
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yes and amen why yeah what is that so creedal means that we're going to hand you know stand
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with the apostles creed or the athanasius creed the nicene creed the standard creeds of historic
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christianity where we can all say yes and amen whether you're roman catholic eastern orthodox
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generally speaking or protestant and and right now i don't need to be having the theological
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debates like calvin and i we've been friends for actually several years now and we have
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theological debates we've had them over the phone many times but right now is not the time we don't
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have the luxury or the privilege to be having those conversations right now while the barbarians
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are at the gate while the babies are being slaughtered while immigrants are flooding and
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Protestants and Catholics hating each other,
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You're a Protestant, you want to hate Catholics,
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you're a Catholic, you want to hate Protestants.
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your wife and kids have to be safe, right?
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And in answer to your question of, are we allowed or when are we allowed?
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We're allowed when we say we're allowed. We are the men of society. We say we're allowed
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to stand up against all of this degeneracy, this indecency, this debauchery now. We draw the lines
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in the sand. And that's what we haven't been doing. That's what we need to get back to.
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And Elon Musk tweets this meme all the time of the left moving further and further and further.
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So relatively speaking, we are far right, because we've stayed in the centre-right all this time.
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The left have gone so far to the hard left that, all things relative, we are far right.
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Right. Well, and we don't hold any positions that our forefathers held. I mean, this is honestly
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true. Like if you look back at the positions of George Washington, or you look back at the
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positions of the Puritans, any, you know, 1620 on, onward in, in, uh, American history,
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I truly am truly am a moderate. And, you know, for people to get frustrated with our positions,
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you just go, you go back even to the early 1900s, even to the late 1800s and, and everybody
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universally is more extreme. In fact, I would look back at an atheist left liberal who is now
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more conservative than many of our current conservatives.
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Like, think about, I always say this example in feminist culture or modesty. If you had an 1800s
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woman who was an atheist leftist woman, and she saw what conservative Christian women wear today,
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suddenly that scene is old fashioned and outdated.
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Early 1900s, nothing that we're saying is foreign.
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There's a million different things that we can talk about.
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But in terms of like, what are four like key ingredients
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that in many ways define NXR and make it unique?
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One is that it is exclusively Christian, exclusively, right?
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am fest right we all appreciate charlie kurt we're not going to sit here and crap on a guy
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who was um a patriot an american hero a christian and a martyr to boot so we're not going to crap
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on charlie kurt we appreciate him that said this is just being objective not trying to be overly
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critical just just naming what it was charlie kurt would platform gays charlie kurt uh would
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platform hindus barefoot hindus vivette spoke at am fest uh he would platform um of course orthodox
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Jews. I'm not even speaking about blood, ethnic Jews. I'm talking about religious Jews who believe
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that Jesus is currently burning in hell, right? There's your Ben Shapiro's, Mormons, Glenn Beck,
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atheists, James Lindsay. So what is not too far beyond the pale for Charlie Kirk's ministry,
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TPUSA, during his lifetime? I'm not talking about what it's devolved into afterwards,
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which isn't great, but I'm talking about in peak TPUSA lore, when Charlie Kirk is at the helm
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and he's at his best atheist is cool uh hindu is cool uh orthodox jew is cool
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mormon is cool um uh atheist is cool um and then and then certainly um boss babes three-piece
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pantsuit you know like let's you know nothing nothing will invigorate and inspire young men
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more than getting a uh a busty blonde boss babe on the stage to tell them you know uh how how to
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live so like all those all those things were there all of them were there and we're still looking at
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that uh we're not going to rewrite the story so we're not going to lionize charlie beyond what
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he deserved but we're also sure as hell not going to demonize him he was a good man and so we're
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looking at it with objectivity and saying net positive unquestionably net positive but if you
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like many are coming out of the woodwork these days saying you know charlie kirk maxine like
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charlie kirk you know and he was great you are charlie kirk i am charlie kirk and and you and
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you hate us there's not one standard that charlie had that our standard isn't higher right again
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like going back to where i said like the apostle paul you know arguing well like oh this person is
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a hebrew oh i am more circumcised on the eighth day son of affairs like like i i must be out of
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my mind to speak this way but everyone at our conference is coming up in november every single
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one of them, we have eight speakers, they all would agree with the Apostles' Creed. They all
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would at least profess a Christian faith. That doesn't mean that they all have perfect lives.
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That doesn't mean that all of them are worthy of sainthood. But every single one of them would
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agree with the historic creeds, would at least have a profession, a public profession of Christian
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faith. There are no Mormons, no Hindus, no Orthodox Jews, no atheists, certainly. And you know what
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else. All eight of them have a profession of Christian faith. All eight of them also are
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dudes, no boss babes. And not because we're misogynist and hate women, but we just realize
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that we've kind of had enough of that. We all have women that we adore. We have mothers,
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we have wives, we have daughters, but we recognize that the need of the hour is for masculine
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leadership and so we're not going to just sit there and say we need men to be men and uh and
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introducing our next speaker ali beth stuckey like yeah we're kind of we're trying to not be
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hypocritical right but you know and this is uh the interesting part is it's because we actually love
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women yes you said you know it's not that we hate women no we actually love women and want what's
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best for them which is sort of the irony in so many things that that we deal with i i find it
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with israel where it's like man if i'd been listened to about israel i got called anti-semite
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all over the place i think my advice would have saved them a lot of pain and suffering over the
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last couple years i actually want what's best for them just like i want what's best for even the
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people who disagree with me here in america it's it's almost this imposition of uh you must you
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know hate these people if you're not giving them what they want or doing whatever they say whoever
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it is whatever group of people it is and i think just like reorienting and going no this is actually
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the best way for everybody moving forward uh and it's in in the same way if you talk about going
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too far to the right you know there are times where because i do a three-hour show and for one
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thing you know people say dude that's insane how do you do a three-hour show yeah that's impressive
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well it's the easiest job in the world to me i mean i just i sit and i talk for three hours and
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uh and it's just built different you know it's if you have the skill it's very easy but it's like
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i could not do that if i was concealing what i really believed i couldn't lie for three hours
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a day five days a week that would be uh that's a good point to keep it all straight if it wasn't
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true i don't have it all straight you wouldn't be able to do it to lie about stuff it's infantilized
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culture isn't it it's when the child says why do you hate me daddy why do you love me i want i want
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mcdonald's like when you want something the person doesn't give that that thing to you you think they
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hate you right yeah that's what the culture is now unless you affirm people in their trans ideology
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unless you affirm people in their dislike of jesus christ you hate them it's like no we love you we
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want you to come to right and and what we're doing i mean the premier example of that the supreme
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example is is our heavenly father absolutely how many times have we prayed for something
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and god does not answer the prayer the way that we would have answered it for ourselves had we
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been god like there are so many i mean even country western guys like 15 years ago understood
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this principle right i thank god for unanswered prayers yeah right like all the things that i
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wanted that the lord by providence said no i prayed for this he didn't give it to me why um because
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he's withholding something from me because he's trying to exasperate me he's a good father because
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he's a good father i want something that he knows is not in the interest of my eternal joy peace
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happiness and he cares more about my holiness than he cares about my temporal happiness that's
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the key yoram hazani i think it's our mutual friend that always so i can't say he's a friend
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he has been my friend over the years i don't i don't have any hatred or disdain for him
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But as you know, he's recruiting a lot of guys on the right for nationalism, which I agree with, but a nationalism that always carves out some kind of thing for Israel.
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I would do the same thing if I lived in Israel.
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But he said to me, Trump's strength is coalition building.
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Yeah. Politics is war without the bullets. Correct. And it's a form of authority and it's
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a form of power. And so it is loving to keep your women behind. And this is probably the fiercest
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portion of this battle that we've faced in the history of America. I mean, we are the most
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morally degenerate. I get threats, death threats, emails, voicemails, people visiting our church to
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look for, I mean, it happens at a massive level. So when you get to this place, it is a loving
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thing to do to keep your women back. Now, I want to talk about just this idea, Joel, that
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what we're doing is that we're repealing this post-war consensus.
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Yeah, the 19th century. Well, this is, so people ask me, hey, Dale, are you going to go further
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right. And I go, well, I think actually we've, we've, we've hit our wall. The brakes have been
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hit. I agree. Let's talk about that. Yeah. And the reason is, is so in 1945, we know post-war
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consensus, we developed all of these pendulum swinging realities as a result of, we don't want
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to be nationalistic. We don't want to be Hitler. We don't want to be all these things. And we
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became multicultural, tolerant, feminism, uh, democracy. And everything worked out perfect.
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I think the church started first with repealing,
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you know, it kind of came to the cusp in the 1970s
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And that was like, wow, lowest point of American history.
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And then the church woke up and we started pushing.
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And then we started pushing against pornography.
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And then we started pushing back against, you know, Israel.
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Now we're starting to push back against immigration, getting forms around nationalism.
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And the last thing I think we're pushing back on is this egalitarian view of race,
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the removal of distinctions around sex, around race, around religion.
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And on that note, and that's why I was saying, you know, I'll do a three hour show. And at the end of it, like last week, my producer came in, he was like, that was a pretty racially charged episode. And I was like, oh, was it? Darn. You know, because obviously I never mean for it to be. But, you know, I said, I think, did I go to, did I say something I shouldn't have said? And, but I think, no, we're the ones under attack. We're the ones who are literally being genocided with people out there who have plans in operation. They're where they're like, we are destroying the Western society.
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saying that out loud who was the guy who literally had like a sticky note with a ticker sblc matt
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it was literally keeping track of the dropping white population celebrating it like yeah like
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like it was not making it up and and so they hate white people it's like that's the bad thing that's
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the offense everything i'm doing is defensive i'm not going to be you know deliberately hateful to
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anybody or deliberately mean to anybody but you know we're the ones being under we're the ones
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under attack we're the ones who are having our homes destroyed we don't have anywhere else to go
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this isn't an option for us and we're the ones being imposed upon so you know when you talk about
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going too far right um you know i think just sticking with the founding fathers not being
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distracted by any german nationalist movements in the 30s like that's not us but we we have our
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our models they're george washington thomas jefferson our models are not from um 80 years
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ago on the other side of the pond, our models in this American context are from like 280 years ago
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right here in our home. Like we have all the exemplars we need, both on the American and
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America first political side of the aisle, and those same men also on the Christ is King, Christian,
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christ supremacy religious side of the aisle i i i can appeal to my own heritage and that's
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something that i think is so compelling is we're not pursuing something that's novel we're not
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pursuing something that's innovative and we're also not pursuing something that's foreign we are
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pursuing our own heritage we're talking about something that is not something that's never
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happened before we're talking about something that's happened before it's happened here and
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it's happened uh fairly recently so it's it's it's here um it's been done before it's been done here
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before and it's been done here recently before this is not crazy but isn't in a weird way doesn't
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it make it more difficult to pitch that because it's easy to pitch a revolutionary new concept
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that's why yes and and this sort of gets to the heart of what we're talking about is the fact that
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the dsa is making major inroads right now socialism and communism is definitely on the come up and
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you know it'd be absurd to to act like that's not the case or to write it off go these stupid
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socialist communists they'll see and it's like no they won't they will first they'll wreck your
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whole country and put you in a googlog then maybe 80 years from now they'll see right but even that
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is uh so i mean this is a real danger and we have to actually show concern for the economic well-being
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of young people you can't just say bah you're a spoiled you know pull yourself up by your boot
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straps know it's a real problem the issue is it's very easy to go oh the society we're in is
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terrible we have this new idea that's never been successfully tried or never been actually tried
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before so but prompt but you know trust us it's all new and it's this old system we're going to
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get rid of it and do something new that's an easy pitch to make it's almost harder to go we need a
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revolution to get back where we were we need a revolution it's it's weird that we're like but no
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we literally need a reset back to how we were. And like all of our problems, literally every
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problem in America could be solved with just resolute enforcement of already existing law.
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It's actually, it's so complicated. No, it's actually really simple.
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We don't even need new laws. We literally just need them enforced.
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Well, and there's this element of, I think this generation is a generation of recovery,
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retrieval and reformation now and then application and then application which is moving forward and
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i think right now you have this back moving forward correct looking back moving forward
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and because we've dipped below morally and uh intellectually so low we are now having to go
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okay let's work our way back up to at least the founders and then the application now that we're
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in 2026 technology has changed uh there's we do live in a different world in a different time and
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I don't think we can just pull back to 1700s, but how do we take the general theonomic principles,
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the general principles of their government, of their morals, of their values, of their culture,
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of society, and then now apply them today? I think that's what we need to do. And it shouldn't be
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difficult because, yeah, it has been done before. It's possible. It's also not extreme. And everybody
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in this nation just celebrated the 250th anniversary of this country and appreciates
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men like George Washington. And so it really, we are, again, not extreme. We are Christian,
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historic, biblical moderates. Right. So two big ideas that I wanted to cover in the episode,
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and we've been covering it, but just to put ahead on it. One, the problem on the right,
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what is the problem? Why are we about to get crushed? Why do we deserve it? What's a clarion
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call, a warning to where we could repent with a broader coalition? What can we change? How can we
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fix it so that our families are safe and that we're not thrown to the wolves and experience
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four or eight more incredibly dark years where our friends are thrown in prison, where some of
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us might be thrown in prison? So probably on the right, I'll start there real quick to say it is
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as concisely as possible. One, we are far too comfortable with ending relationships.
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Our online presence has again and again trumped our private friendships. Friendship is not esteemed
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enough by the right. We are just too comfortable throwing away friendship. Friendship should
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matter. Friendship should matter. Especially publicly. We shouldn't be doing it publicly.
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You might have conversations of concern privately, but publicly is something that it fractures
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One of the reasons we're fractured is because we're comfortable with being fractured.
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It wouldn't happen if we weren't comfortable with it happening.
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And to say we're comfortable with fracturing is to say that we are comfortable with losing
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You cannot lose, you cannot win a war as a fractured army.
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which kind of shows that like we're all sounding the alarm in different ways but it actually reveals
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some measure of hypocrisy because we're all saying like we're on the cliff and and the wheels are
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coming off and there's impending doom right around the corner but but then we're all comfortable with
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our public social media actions knowing the inevitable result will be whittling down our
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platoon that ensures our destruction which essentially gives gives the game away it's saying
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while I'm sounding the alarm and ringing the gong saying, you know, the sky is falling,
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the sky is falling. I don't really believe it because if I really believed it, I would move
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heaven and earth to ensure that I don't lose a single fighting man in order to fend off this
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impending doom. So one problem is we're too comfortable losing friendships. That's one
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thing on the right. We're too fractured because we actually don't love people. We actually don't
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love people second thing um we are i mean there's a million different subgroups but if we look at a
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30 30 000 foot view and getting two big um two big divides you've got maga america first right
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you've got um and of course technically you still have the neocons i i kind of don't even consider
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them but i probably should because there actually is oh they've sort of just taken over maga i mean
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yeah but there is a world in which you know maga just become you know synthesizes maybe with the
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neocon. It doesn't just become neocon, but a synthesis of something in between your Marco
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Rubio's, you know, whatever. But the point is like neocons, MAGA, America first. And here's
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the problem though, but let's say MAGA and neocon synthesized and looking at two groups and to
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change the language a little bit, America first, MAGA, you know, whatever that is. Let's just say
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new right, old right. On the old right, or you could call it the establishment. On the establishment
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side. And I want to be objective here. I want to be fair. I think that Ben Shapiro, I despise
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not him as a person, but his views, what he's doing, what he's communicating. I despise it.
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I hate his behavior. I don't hate him, but I hate what he's doing. I absolutely hate it.
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I think the Lord Jesus Christ hates it. So I think I'm in good company in hating the messaging
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gene of ben shapiro hating lies hating deception that's right that said i want to be fair even to
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my opponents i want to be fair and objective um ben shapiro is probably a good husband
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he's probably a good dad i i bet you if i had gun to my head if i had to guess
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right i loved it just sit here my sin would love this i would not love this but the sinful side of
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joel would love to say and i bet he's cheating on his wife and i bet he's you know abusing his kids
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which is what everybody does to us everyone does to us check his hard drive yeah it's like dude
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i haven't by the grace of god i haven't looked at porn in in you know 15 to 20 years like
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but i'm not going to do the same thing that our opponents do to us check his hard drive like no
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i bet you that um ben shapiro gun to my head i bet he has never committed adultery i bet you
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ben shapiro given the choice between ben shapiro and i want to be respectful here so i'm not
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actually going to name someone on this side because this is more our team and c.a everything
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i was saying just a moment ago i don't want to lose friendships i could say this on the phone
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to someone privately but you can imagine use your imagination for a second pick someone on the
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america first new right side okay um given the choice between ben shapiro um in this hypothetical
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i only i only have two choices me and my wife are going to have to go out of town overnight
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we have to and um and ben shapiro is going to babysit our kids or this figure on the new right
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and this guy agrees with me on a lot of things he agrees with me about the boss babe feminism
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he agrees with me about israel he agrees with a lot of things but this guy um about every other
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week has a sex scandal right i'm picking ben shapiro to babysit my kids so this is how i see
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i said what's the problem the right one we're too comfortable with the fracturing um we don't
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esteem friendship enough uh two we are subdivided in a million categories see see my point about
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fracturing but if we look 30 000 foot view big picture um you got two big groups old right
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right miga uh new right it calls itself maga but but kind of miga new right right america first
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and and with that the new right and the old right on the old right to be fair right be fair to your
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opponents, you actually have some people that as individual persons at the personal level
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actually have some good morals. They don't cheat on their wives. They're probably good dads.
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You actually have some personal virtue, personal morality, character. I'm just going to say it
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because that's what they're saying about the new right. And here's the thing. I actually want to
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make progress. I actually want to win. So I'm actually going to concede the points that they're
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making that are true they say well the new right is a bunch of degenerates and here it is i'm saying
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it publicly they're right they're right so what you have is you have the old right that ideologically
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is completely sold out but at a personal level um there's actually some good men you have the
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new right that ideologically is pure but personally are degenerates and so we're coming in here and
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here's the deal what what does winning look like for us right as we're mapping out our goals which
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we're doing we're talking we you know we met this morning what are we trying to accomplish what are
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our goals right this is just the podcast but nxr behind the scenes on the business side on the
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strategy side the ambition what are we trying to do for the lord jesus christ to bring glory and
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honor to the father to for the nation to to return to christian faith how are we going to get there
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winning for us does not actually look like these two sides the big pieces old right new right losing
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and and we're sitting here it's like we uh we've got uh 17 friends who won if 17 of us win and
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everyone else loses guess what we lose we're going to jail our kids don't have a future we are
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screwed so our goal right we want to give you the lay of the land what's the problem on the right
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in the ideological arena, but at the personal level,
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Stop cheating on your wives, stop getting drunk,
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stop going to clubs, stop caring more about looks, Maxine,
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I actually think that being impure on the inside
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actually does, in God's world, eventually bubble out on the outside, right? You got some ugly,
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somebody with a complete virtue vacuum, some libtard woman, and it turns out, oh, also,
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she's got blue hair. She's 70 pounds overweight, right? She's actually ugly. There's something to
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the principle of the witch looks like a hag. She's dirty on the inside and the outside. So I
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understand, you know, the looks maxing, whatever. It's true as far as it goes. But at the end of
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the day uh we have vanity on the new right it's beyond just the arguments of physiognomy it's be
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like it's beyond just snow white and the witch it's it's pure vanity um it's it's pure indulgence
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it's it's gay it is ego greed that's right so so we need we have a virtue character vacuum
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with right positions and then we over here have um absolutely impure traitorous positions
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but but still a veneer of virtue that they can appeal to and rightly point at the lack over here
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which is why nobody listens to the new right because you got ben shapiro it's not ben shapiro
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lying does he lie yes but on this point he's telling the truth when ben shapiro and glenn
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back point to the new right and say they're a bunch of um larping degenerate boys yeah they
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kind of have a point and this is so nxr is trying to bridge the gap and not just win in isolation
00:48:33.160
but appeal to both sides and say brothers come you guys change your views and repent before the
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lord jesus christ and to your constituents that you've been lying to that you've been betraying
00:48:45.900
you guys grow up just get your lives in order to restore the the social kingship of christ isn't a
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policy decision it's an internal decision we have to live with christian virtues it's as simple as
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that yeah and this is having a noble christian right is is a heavy work because it's not just
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ideas which are easy to hold but to actually have the character which is you know joel and i often
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talk about about being pastors uh me and calvin have talked about this too it's difficult to do
00:49:12.720
them both but one thing it does do is that it actually forces us constantly to be under higher
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scrutiny to higher degree not just to the internet but to our own congregations to live people yeah
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to have real people to have real healthy marriages that people are observing to have faithful
00:49:28.160
children that are walking because my church will fire me correct my church loves me but my church
00:49:33.660
is um is not biased they love me i cheat on my wife they remove me oh yeah and it's so there's
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a lot of people that want to see us fail unfortunately and i think for that reason
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it is all the more you know i often say this phrase don't sin don't die i say it to a lot
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of the guys in our church it's a good phrase yeah don't sin don't die because right now it's like
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you got to stay healthy you got to stay morally healthy you got you don't sin don't die and um
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but what we're doing people are concerned because we're moving right but i think we've actually
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stopped right meaning that i don't think we're gonna i think we've repealed most of the post-war
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consensus at this point and i know it's been a journey of people going oh my gosh i can't believe
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he's talking about race now are they gonna still keep going are they gonna keep going further are
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are they going straight into you know 1938 germany exactly what's their real uh logical end
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of like what do they really want are they just hiding their power levels are they saying this
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much that's already controversial but secretly in in their signal chats uh what they really are
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going for is auschwitz yeah what they're really going for like and that's the point is that i go
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truly like we are we are not going back to to germany we are going back to the founding of
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america we're going back to the great and godly men that we all look up to even in the founding
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of america we're actually not going back even to that because we recognize it in god's providence
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if we could get back they're great but we can't correct and we have to be honest about that there's
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a sense in which we can't return we can return to the virtue to the principles to the general
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equity yes but it will have to be applied in a new world right america is not the same people
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it's not the same people now now about 100 million of those people need to go yeah um but even what
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we're left with are not the same virtue not the same academic rigor not the same uh and so uh
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application in the year of our Lord 2026 of 1700 principles will still be different than the 1700s
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and we acknowledge that and we're going to talk about that this is going to be a multi-part
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series with the four of us and we'll devote probably a whole episode to what is the application
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of these timeless principles look like in a modern era because the Lord does that that's not just
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that's not compromise that's not just pragmatism for the sake of the Lord actually does that the
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Lord takes timeless truths, but applies them in fresh ways that meet the times. Go ahead.
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Yeah. So my thing is, I think that people want to know where are the breaks? Where are the breaks
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in this thing? And my thing is, again, I think we've repealed the vast majority of this post-war
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consensus. And now the duty is to bring 100 million people this way. And that's the work
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that we're setting our mind to. This might be too much of a big question. Maybe we need to
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dedicate a an episode to this because this is what i've been trying to i'm trying to figure out
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how to phrase it but my idea is people who believe in the constitution have to no longer be bound by
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the strictures of the constitution so that we can save the constitution otherwise people who
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genuinely hate the constitution are going to destroy it forever that's right that's so well
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said and i don't know but i don't know how that gets into strategy and application let's let's do
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that that's a that's a whole episode uh but what you said at the end that's kind of like a 30 000
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the fit view but i want to dig deeper into that so so episode one just as a quick recap this is
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the first episode if you're listening to a multi-part series with the four of us dale partridge
00:52:53.880
harrison smith uh calvin robinson and myself and um and we are just so that you know we are the
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four primary host on the nxr studios network nxr stands for new christian right and so we're trying
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to carve out that space knowing that um we are not the only guys um uh and we don't we certainly
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don't want to be the only guys we want friends we want a broader coalition but we're trying to
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carve out a path we're trying to pioneer the new christian right and so we are in xr studios we're
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the four main hosts um we've got i do a show on monday and wednesday you've got a show on tuesday
00:53:29.960
dale you've got a show on friday harrison you've got a show on thursday calvin and uh we're doing
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a conference in november uh november with other speakers that will be there as well um and and
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some surprise speakers that we'll announce in the future that we're excited about uh but that's what
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we're doing this is episode one main thing that we covered in episode one just as a recap is um
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on the right politically culturally religiously in america on the right um we are in big trouble
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we are about to get crushed we actually deserve the lord's judgment because of our sin um and what
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are the big problems uh we just as a summary we said one we're too comfortable with fracturing
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we don't esteem friendship number two we're quick to speak and slow to listen we should be slow to
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speak and quick to listen especially when we're speaking publicly on twitter and then number two
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we have a million different micro factions but two big ones at the 30 000 foot view you got the old
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right the new right the old right has some personal character but terrible ideology betraying the
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country and the new right has some of the correct positions a lot of the correct positions but the
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degenerates so that's episode one the problem on the right and how we want to fix it episode two
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let's make it um uh how far right are we going i want to get into that because i i said for a
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moment and i never quite got got back there to finish the thought so let's make episode two
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four pillars i want to talk about the four pillars there are literally hundreds of values
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but with any movement any organization whether it's a church whether it's a business
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every organization, every movement has hundreds of values, but you cannot prioritize hundreds of
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things simultaneously. So what makes organizations or movements distinct from one another is not
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their values, but their priorities, hundreds of values. And there could be this organization and
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that like TPSA, we have profound disagreements, profound. But if we're saying values, not priorities,
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but values, if they have, let's just say hypothetically, they have a thousand values
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and we have a thousand values, we would probably overlap on 90% of them. They value prayer. We
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value prayer. They value traditional family. We value traditional family. I'd like to think we're
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a little bit more consistent, but we would share 90% of our values. But you can only really
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prioritize, I would say, somewhere between maybe three up to about 10 different things.
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I remember as a teenager reading the Bible and highlighting my favorite verses.
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And like the book of Romans, the book of James, the book of the Gospel of John,
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I ended up highlighting the entire book, which did not help me.
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When you emphasize everything, you emphasize nothing.
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So what are the priorities of NXR, this new Christian right space
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that we're trying to carve out that's bigger than just us?
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And that answers the question of what's the end game?
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And we can answer that question in episode two with the four pillars.
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We hope you've been blessed, and we hope that you stick with us with this series.
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