THE SPECIAL - Behind The Scenes In Right Wing Media w⧸Alex Stein
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Summary
In this episode of Ask Not What Your Country Can Do for You, I sit down with radical Christian Nationalist Pastor Joel Webin. We talk about Joel's rise in the media world, how he got his start, and why you should be unapologetically who you are.
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And so, my fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you.
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Radical Christian Nationalist Pastor, Joel Webin.
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all right here we are part two alex stein thanks for coming i get a two-part series i feel so good
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about myself joel thank you for having me i really appreciate it so nice we had to do it twice um
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yeah so i wanted to ask you you've been in the media scene longer than i have yeah i mean well
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dude you've been crushing it you just got in it and blew up pretty quick joel thanks man but real
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quick i want to talk about me but you know this is what i want to encourage people and we'll get
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into this in the show is that you probably didn't expect that you'd have a lot of success this fast
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but you just kind of started speaking without being filtered you're just speaking your mind
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going with your gut and that's what i try to encourage people to do is that we try to always
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fit you know what is it a square peg at a round hole instead of just trying to be yourself and
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that's really what i tell college kids when i go and speak at college campuses the best advice you
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can give somebody is to be unapologetically yourself but if you think in your mind oh if
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i would have started a podcast sooner i would have been more successful sooner not really you
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kind of needed your whole life to really get your world outlook and your viewpoint that you have
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and that's why you're so successful is because you don't pull any punches thanks yeah i think
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courage is in short supply and um and if people see courage they're attracted to it so and people
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are getting more religious yeah that is finally changing we're finally seeing the trend where
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young people are identifying as christian more and and i remember being young and like our teacher
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telling us people are becoming less religious people right and that really was the that was
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true that was true yeah and now it's the the pendulum has swung so i think you're kind of
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writing you're here at a time when it's needed when more people want to go hear a podcast where
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they can actually get some sort of you know scripture-based analysis instead of just listening
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to you know psychobabble from maybe me alexine because you know a lot of what i do is not
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scripture-based but my point is there is a an audience that is more hungry for this sort of
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information than there probably was 10 years ago yes so i see there being like a pretty sizable
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chasm between you know two two different groups on the right that there's and i'm not just saying
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politically between like you know the neocons and the maga now emerging you know america first but
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take the politics out of it for a second but just thinking of media and different um different like
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ethos and and style and mechanics and those kinds of things um there are guys who are more bible
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based like what you just described um and are pretty stand-up guys and i don't even mean they're
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all christian like ben shapiro is a jew yeah um but old testament but yeah but ben shapiro like
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i you know i don't have a lot of good things to say about him i'm i'm not really a fan that said
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though to be fair because i i don't want to i don't like when people are unfair um ben shapiro
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if i asked him to babysit my kids i would trust him i would trust him and see that's the thing is
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i doubt that ben shapiro has ever cheated on his wife yeah um i think that uh he would hand my
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children back to me he's a smart guy too he's also uh he is intelligent and he's well-spoken
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um i don't know if he's that well-spoken i listen up then i mean yeah well i'm a little smarmy but
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gosh i can't hardly listen to ben when i say well-spoken i mean he's articulate it doesn't
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necessarily mean that the tone of his voice is pleasing but you you know what i mean yeah um
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here's here's my point so on one side of like right-wing media you have
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the glenn becks um the ben shapiro's the um you know guys who basically let's describe them as
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um guys who would would come off as a little bit more serious um and and would be more religious
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based more morality based yeah i know glenn beck is a mormon and you know ben is a jew well real
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quick though i gotta cut you off you know mormonism there are some weird points of it but every
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mormon that i know is usually dialed in and works hard oh of course i'm saying i actually have a lot
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of respect for mormons you know i don't know if the magic underwear and some of the stuff is a
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little bizarre but if it actually religiously speaking it's terrible uh but in terms of the
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people they're great there's some of the most stand-up moral people like if if i lived if if
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i could live in a all christian neighborhood of christian haitians or an all mormon neighborhood
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of the only kind of mormons there are white as the driven snow yeah i i would live in the
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salt lake city's nice have you ever been to salt lake city i don't know if you've been there but
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it's nice the demographics have something to do with that yeah of course you know like we know
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this it's like you know when when gavin newsom came out recently is like well uh what state was
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it it was maybe it was is either alabama or it was um or it was it was one of the states of the
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south and it was like your you know your murder rate is higher than ours you know and like and
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you you hate on democrats you know but our policies are working it's like okay like let's pull up this
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this uh state in the south let's pull up the demographics and let's pull up the demographics
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of california and i did it was like the easiest thing in the world to do and it's like palos
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verdes yeah the southern state was like it was like um a like 1.6 or 1.7 to 1 in terms of the
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murder rate but it was a two to one in terms of um uh black residents per capita yeah well you
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you know what i would argue though too is that i actually think the the problem with black culture
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and and i you know i tell you this all the time i'm such a conspiracy theorist it's the two-parent
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home i actually don't think that's a huge part that that is a big part of it where a lot of
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these women have babies and multiple baby daddies and you know multiple baby mamas and that is kind
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of what caused this problem because my dad was heavily involved in my life i don't know what
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your background was but i'm guessing your dad might did you ever see zach galifian he's like
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my dad would never do that he loved me yeah exactly right yeah my dad's great my dad's a
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member of my church he's leading you know he's leading the congregation through song my mom is
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playing piano every sunday night we do a game night my wife and my parents and my parents are
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incredible yeah i'd be nowhere without my mom i was adopted as a baby i would be a deadbeat if it
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wasn't for my parents adopting me as a child as a baby i yeah that would have massive effects so
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a lot of times we want to make it just about you know skin color i really i think it's just more
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about your nature versus nurture and if your nature is no parent and you're listening to
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degenerate rap music because i do think that that going going to the conspiracy side is that
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you know original rap music wasn't like get a gun shoot a person right it was it was actually just
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more about hip-hop and you know like i can't even think of the names of the bands that i'm thinking
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but i'm just saying it wasn't as degenerate but i do think that and if you look at billy corgan has
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a good he talks about how the reason why the Smashing Pumpkins weren't even more popular is
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because he noticed a trend where all of a sudden the Smashing Pumpkins even though they're a rock
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band they were being played on the pop charts you know as a big crossover music he said in the
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2000s all of a sudden it was the rap music that started to really be push and push and push and
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you there is an argument to be made people like Michael Jordan was invested to it the private
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prison industry kind of came out at the same time they needed to fill the private prison industry
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up and so that's why they had more degenerate music because kind of encouraged more of a
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degenerate lifestyle and like the perfect example that i use and why i believe this is that i grew
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up listening to three six mafia and at the time i thought that was so funny uh uh making easy money
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pipping hoses sears chicken head i thought the rap was just good but i was subconsciously
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worshiping satan you know and they ended up winning an academy award the only rap person
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to rap group to win an academy award i think that was done on purpose because they wanted to make
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the band that is three six mafia six triple six mafia they wanted to let the satanist win who
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owns those uh record labels well of course a jewish guy in nwa you know owned by a jewish guy
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so so i'm with you culture i i don't know anybody who's saying that culture is not um a major factor
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but just to to push back slightly so like you said skin color i all i don't know anybody saying
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that culture isn't an issue i also don't really know anybody who's saying that skin color is an
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you know and so my point is well nigeria they did that they did that iq test and they were
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they averaged like 70 and the guy and the guy he was trying to debate guy yeah he's like and
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very disappointingly you know like yes he was like uh and so the average iq was 69 uh you know
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and over 52 percent of participants were underneath 69 you know underneath 70 iq yeah so
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here's my point my point is uh culture um can't be swept under the rug that that's uh that's clear
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that's a major factor. But at the same time, people are different. And from a Christian
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perspective, and this kind of gets back to different forms of right-wing media, because
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I want to come back to that. But from a Christian perspective, there's really two sides. So one,
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there is a physical side. We've talked about this on your show. We're not Gnostics. We believe that
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God created a physical world. There are physical distinctions. A woman is different than a man,
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not just with her personality, but she is physically different than a man, and we know this.
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Um, and I believe that different peoples, tribes, tongues, nations are also different,
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I want to say this because I want to hear your pushback.
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I almost value a woman more because they have the portal of divinity.
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Every single soul has come through a woman's uterus and you and I don't have the ability
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Which is, I think that is arguably the most important characteristic a person can have
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I mean, to, you know, I know they need a man to proclaim.
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Isn't that what they say, though, in the future, that the women are going to be able to replace us and they'll just have our, you know.
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They'll just have a sperm banks and we'll be gone.
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And the only baby that will come out will be an IVF girl.
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Yeah, but their voting will be terrible and their countries will go to house.
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And I know you're against gay marriage, but I was arguing with somebody about gay marriage.
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And I'm like, you know, I really don't think it's good.
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but if you're a lesbian did you know lesbian couples have the highest rate of divorce
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they do yeah it's just like and a really like shockingly high uh rate of physical abuse
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well that doesn't surprise me but i was i was trying i was talking to a lesbian i was like so
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go get married you're gonna get a divorce that's kind of my argument to her uh yeah and so there
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is something like this is really crazy and i do believe this but people are gonna what are you
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talking about i think being a lesbian is almost fake because two girls can kiss and then she can
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go marry a guy but if two guys kiss that's gay and i know you can you know you can maybe you know
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convert and go well biblically speaking did you know there there's uh i mean the old testament
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has a lot of laws so it's not like they just missed it right i mean you're talking about
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hundreds thousands of different civil codes moral codes ceremonial codes but all you need is to know
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hide laws but there's no no uh but there's no there was not actually a uh penalty against
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lesbianism but there was against uh yes wow see that makes that makes i'm now my and that's not
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to say that lesbianism is therefore morally permissible yeah and it's not to say that god
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viewed it as more but it's not as repugnant it's not yeah and and i think we kind of know without
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being too graphic one of the reasons why yeah i agree it's like we're lesbians we have sex no you
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don't you don't have sex yeah you don't you don't i agree and two men are but men do sodomy yeah
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and and it's really really repugnant and all women are kind of gay you know they're kind of like you
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know uh touching each other i'm just saying it's it's just more socially acceptable for women to
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kind of be touching and feeling on women but a guy that's that's weird so i think culturally
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lesbian is lesbians are fake it's not a real thing yeah it really is not a real thing i agree
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um so all that being said um the point is men and women are different i think i think race is real
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so i would describe myself as a race realist yeah so that's the only thing i'm going back to like
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the culture and this gets back to the media so you know back to back to back but like i think that
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there are good guys in on on right-wing media and when i say good guys i like actually detest uh
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their message and a lot of the things that they're promoting um but i mean good guys like like they
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don't cheat on their wife i would trust them to watch my kids like they're um they're stand-up
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guys they're moral other than ben shapiro being happy to palestinian children are dying he's
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probably an okay guy that's what i mean that's what i mean and then so here's your bible-based
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and again i know he's he's not bible-based he's a jew well the old testament i mean i know i'm
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just saying but it's the old testament undone by the talmud that that you know it's a lot of the
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no-hide laws where does that come into play like why is ben shapiro say a christian can get into
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heaven as long as he follows the no-hide laws i don't know what ben shapiro is saying with that
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but he has said that no talmudic jew actually believes that oh they don't so that might be
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unique to him i've heard him say that on his podcast maybe he believes that but no that's
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that's not that's not a staple of judy oh okay not not not from my awareness so my point is just
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to simply say that um you you've got some moral guys whether it's a glenn beck or it's a ben
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shapiro or it's a whoever um and these guys you know usually have some kind of religious claim
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um that's you know you know something over here you've got you know the new right ascendant right
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whatever you want to call it that's emerging america first kind of guys who are like they're
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they're j-pilled they're aware of israel they're also very much you know race realist you know
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some of them are more than race realist some of them actually are you know maybe a supremacist
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you know or whatever but but the point is these guys don't really care that much about
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any religious claim they're not necessarily moral so they'll say based you know hashtag
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they're kind of pro muslim i know see you know yes that's it yeah so exactly so like so they
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say some based things um but they a lot of them aren't married they they don't they're not family
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men yeah they're um they get drunk a lot they you know you find them in the club you know that's
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what was so funny about like the the video with like all these right-wing guys and nick is kind
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of like a fish out of water yeah nick is not a club guy but but here's the and i like that about
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nick and i personally i wish he hadn't gone even that one time but i but i know that he you know
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he didn't drink and he didn't get drunk or anything like that but the point is nick is the
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exception that's the point i'm making i think we both agree so nick is is standing like a fish out
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of water and and he stands distinct because he's the only one all these other guys are based in
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some of their talking points but they're they're they're immoral they're degenerate and so all that
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being said back to what you said about me i think part of the reason for the success if i might be
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so bold i think part of it is because um i'm j-pilled i'm a race realist um i i'm patriarchal
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i make no apology for that i think that men should lead everything not just the church and the home
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but uh in civil politics i think men are are called by god to live in uh lead in society so
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all these kinds of things that you would find over here with kind of like the new right degenerate
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right um and yet i have five kids and a wife i pastor a church i use the bible as a basis for
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my views um and i think that's that's what i was gonna say is that like with media right now you've
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got these guys kind of ascendant and these guys kind of falling off a cliff in terms of just
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views and yes and clout yes so you got the moral the moral boomers and boomer is a state of mind
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it's not just an age you know like ben shapiro is a boomer yes not by age but by heart but what's
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weird is that but to me it blows my mind that the boomers are so supportive of israel because it was
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just the 60s and 70s people were very critical of israel yeah they were judaism so i'm like where
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did this thing was it the 70s 80s 90s where because i remember my dad wanted to change my last name to
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stone because he said you know you're not jewish you're going to be you know persecuted for being
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stein right and i was like well i don't want to change my last name you know we didn't but
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so my dad was hip to it when i was born in 86 so you know people have been critical of israel i
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guess maybe not outspokenly critical for centuries yeah yeah for say to say the least not not of
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israel but but jews yeah yeah you know long before the nation state so no you you're right but my
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point is like take the israel that's you know that's the issue of the day right now but take
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that out of the equation when i say boomers i just mean um like like what i'm not picking on you but
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like you can pick like they you know like it's just culture whereas i would say no uh it is
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culture yeah uh with when it comes to contributing factor that is a clearly in a huge one not a small
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one at the same time though um black people are different than white people yeah and and that
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doesn't even mean my my my opinion as a christian is i actually think that um that black people can
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change. I think all people can change, but slowly over time. I think any individual can be changed
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by the Lord Jesus Christ through conversion, by the power of the Holy Spirit, be a Christian,
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but you still got those demons that you wrestle with. So it's like, so I actually, I'll put it
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like this. It's like how Indians are, not dot Indians, but Native Americans are just totally
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addicted to alcohol. That's a genetic thing. Yes. And so it's like, the phrase that I'll use
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is this uh besetting sins of particular people besetting sins of particular people what i mean
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by that is i think every every people group you can look and you can detect certain strengths and
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certain you know pitfalls and weaknesses um so i'll you know i'll pick on white people because
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i'm white you know so that one's easy so europeans i would say and i don't think this
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was always true of europeans i know it wasn't but i would say for the last
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150 arguably even 300 years definitely the last 150 years i would say um european
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those of european descent uh tend to have a weak point speaking in generality so not each and every
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individual but on the whole uh gullible um morally passive um cowardly um the like the things that
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would lend towards social suicide uh toxic empathy just giving away the farm you know it's like yeah
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that's clearly um a weak point right now and i would say like uh look at the uk i think that's
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the perfect example of it yes and i and i think i could we could also say that like okay so now
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we got white people out of the way started with them um black people um if if i am doing the work
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as as an evangelist and i'm ministering and and i live in a neighborhood that's predominantly black
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and by god's grace like he saves the whole neighborhood and they're all a part of my church
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now um if it was a white church like they're saved where i'm not saying that they're not christians
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i'm not saying they don't love jesus and i'm not saying that that didn't make a real uh detectable
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moral improvement in their lives but i would say but there's still these besetting sins that are
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that that that that die slowly they're hard to kill and so um here's a bunch of white people
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and they're christians and they love jesus but there's a propensity in general not every single
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one of them and not every single time but in general a propensity towards apathy towards uh
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gullibility towards uh toxic empathy preferring others at the expense of their own people their
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own children they're like their own welfare um and if i was pastoring you know here's the black
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church like and they're genuinely born again they're christians they've grown they've improved
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um but also like i probably you know like an ex-alcoholic i wouldn't take him to a bar
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yeah the black church that i'm pastoring i would if white people came and visited i wouldn't say
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hey everybody just leave your bikes out yeah and it does seem like they like to tell because i
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want to tempt them yeah i know and they do like to talk i said that i went there yeah i know there
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are some character traits that are there are some character traits and so anyway so but my point
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that right there i use it as an example okay that's not the point of the podcast but um me
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saying that right there right that'll get clipped out i'll get i'll get crap for that um but you
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said like hey you you know you kind of came out of nowhere and you're growing it's because of that
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yeah it's because of that you're not pulling punches because what you've got is glenn beck
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who would never say that yeah but also probably not cheat on his wife yeah you know um and then
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you've got andrew tate who would absolutely say that with less qualifiers than i did but also
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you know have like only fans models working for him you know and so pornography shoots but there
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is a younger generation of men who i think want to be moral and they want to not just be based
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they want something tried true tradition old rooted they want religion i think people want
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tradition i really do think but they don't want religion christianity particularly if
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christianity is what the boomers have insisted it is which is suicide yeah because the boomers
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is a good description of what's happening i think that's what's happening so so i'm like christian
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with a spine muscular christianity i i hold to the christianity um that inspired the crusades
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yeah that fought off entire nations for god country and kin i believe in that christianity
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and that i think you've got the new degenerate right you've got the old boomer religious right
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but with you know that's just basically just handing their grandkids to the grave and and
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then you have this gaping chasm in between. And I predict, I might be wrong, because I'm not the
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And to your point, though, I don't know what the exact number is. I've heard, I don't know if it's
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Glenn or maybe he's even Ben Shapiro talking about, there's only about 50 million people that
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even kind of consume conservative media and that's why they are so threatened by nick or by tucker
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because they've taken a big piece of that kind of small pie and so that i think that's also why
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you're being able to be successful because it is kind of a smaller pie but there are people are not
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happy with uh the glenn becks necessarily so that is why they are able to find you and that's why
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they you know vibe with what you're saying which the irony is like all those guys they broke up
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the legacy media that came before them and now we're breaking and they're getting mad about it
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right and they're getting mad i mean like the ben shapiro only became a thing because it was like
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he came in and broke up you know part of the market share from fox news and from you know
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and then you know and then and they don't want to take part of their pie right exactly so that's
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just that's the way of the world that's you know and that and that's continuing and i don't see it
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stopping anytime soon but that said my point is i'm curious you've been in the media space you've
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done a lot of different things you've done you know we talked about you know previously you've
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done like reality shows yeah yeah you know a producer for cheaters you know for eight years
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and you've done you know you worked at the blaze for a little while and you worked there for three
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years so i'm i'm curious what do you because i am new to this so i i gave my little spiel but now i
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really want to hear from you um what do you predict where is this going what's right wing media if i
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had to predict far in the future where it's going sadly what goes viral joel clips of you you know
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I mean, you can speak on these hour long podcasts, but people don't have the attention span.
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So I think the future, it's going to be like Brave New World, where sadly, I think they
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called it like the tellies, where it was basically like porno and news, like they would go to
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It was like, that's literally what our content is going to be like.
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It's going to be, and you kind of say the degenerate, right?
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But believe it or not, it's going to be like the movie Idiocracy.
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I know you're a little more critical than I am of him, but he is the grab-em-by-the-pussy president.
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And I would imagine that there's going to be more grab-em-by-the-pussy presidents in the future.
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And that's kind of where I see the media landscape going is that you're going to have to almost make long-form content,
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specifically clip farming for the short-form content that people get, and it's going to be out-of-context content.
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And I think that that is kind of where we're going is that's the direction where people just have such a short attention span.
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it's just going to be clips and that's why they don't like nick because his clips do so well
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yeah yeah they do so how how will that even function as an industry because at that point
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it's just you know d's not scroper 667 who's clip farming like so nick nick doesn't even
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no he didn't even make money from it yeah there's clippers so what do you think will
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happen with that because somebody will have to still make content for all these guys to clip out
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what will be their incentive well see if we're going like what i think is going to happen and
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And now with Neuralink, what Elon Musk is doing, that's another complaint that I have with Elon Musk.
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Oh, a soldier blows his arm off, and now he can have a robotic arm.
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But I do think that this is what the – and it's not so distant future, actually, that they're going to have us plug into the metaverse, and they're going to have us live in some sort of simulation.
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And they'll tell everybody, well, in the metaverse, instead of living for 70 years here on Earth, you can live for a million years.
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And you plug into this computer, and in the metaverse, you're like, well, how do you make money?
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Well, in the metaverse, you'll probably have credits.
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You'll be able to buy stuff, and you'll just be looking at ads the whole time.
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So I think that this media landscape, luckily now we have ways where people can support
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independent content creators, but if that ever dies out, that's what they want.
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I think they want us all to literally plug into a computer, and once you plug into that
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computer, they'll say, oh, this is better for climate change.
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It might sound too conspiratorial, but I really do believe that is where we're heading, especially
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with all the new artificial intelligence that that's that's the one that that's what they want
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to do is live in this fake world and just be intubated and live in a video game and maybe that
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is not going to happen in our lifetimes probably not but that's kind of where i just see media
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going because it's just like tv's dead nobody's watching tv right and and all the boomers that
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are here sadly my dad's a boomer he's not going to be here in 10 years probably and that you know
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i can just cry thinking about that but and so all the boomers will be gone in 10 years and you and
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I will be, you know, we'll be a little older and just these young people are not going
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to be watching the same content that we're watching now.
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I can't really foresee exactly what that is going to be, but I kind of go back to Brave
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Like it's going to be short form content, like Instagram tits and maybe some news.
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Like, you know, they have those clips where the women do the news naked, like it's going
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Unless we have people like yourself, where we still have a spiritual, you know, connection
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into this world but they're trying to kill god every single day they're trying to hide his
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existence and i don't think that will ever necessarily happen but a lot of people have
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fallen into that trap right now and potentially more people could fall under that trap yeah so
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yeah i think a slop in dated war slop in dated world yeah we're gonna be watching ai slap constantly
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so i think that's what you know the powers that be want and there's certainly the mechanisms for
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that to take place but at the same time there's this other narrative you know beneath the surface
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which you are also firsthand and witnessing where like you have a lot of young people returning to
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church yeah returning to christ actually wanting to be informed not like i because i see both i
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see like the slot machine all-encompassing slot machine but i also see like a lot of young people
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rejecting it and debate is huge people love debate you know that's what made charlie big
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to prove me wrong but people just love debates and you can't maybe you can do a fake ai debate but
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people want to see friction people want to see conflict and that is i think that's kind of the
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future of media too it's like pierce morgan look at his show whether you like him or not
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he just has a bunch of people and basically yell at each other right and that's what people want
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watch yeah that's true all right so um what do you plan on doing long term you know for me i have
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well it's not a secret weapon because my good friend savannah hernandez i saw i'm sure you
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saw where she got assaulted at that protest um oh yeah i know that at the end of the day
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even if my podcast doesn't work out if this doesn't work out as long as i go and get content
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what they call man on the street and it doesn't necessarily need to be man on the street interviews
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but that's what people want to see the real world because everybody's stuck on their couch everybody's stuck in their nine-to-five
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I know that I'll always have some sort of following or success by just putting a camp kind of like what Nick Shirley does
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going out there and covering what's happening in the real world so I feel like that's kind of my backup plan
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not that I do that now it's it's kind of my main plan but I feel like there will always be a an audience for that type of content
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going to protests and I think there's only going to be more protests in the near future so that's kind of where I see myself going
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and interview people at a different viewpoints,
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that, to me, I think will always be a successful strategy.
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um upheavals uh but i think my question the only the only pin you know popping that balloon that
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i could foresee is um but what if we get to a point where like you can you can try but you'll
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be dead you mean if i go to protest they'll just kill me yeah like if tensions continue to heat up
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where it's like yeah that that makes for good content uh but at the risk of your own life i
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think it only gets that bad as if they cut off the internet because i'm good friends with tim
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pool have you been on tim show yet yeah okay and you know whether you like tim or not i him and he's
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one of my best friends so i like him but he's always talking about the civil war i think that
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if they cut off the internet we would have people shooting each other in the street and then if
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that's the case the internet doesn't work then what's the point of making some content so until
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they turn off the internet and and i've been at protests where the cops stood down so it is
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dangerous but no risk no reward every day that i get up in the morning and drive my car i'm
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taking a calculated risk so i it sucks i had to put myself in dangerous situations and i trust me
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i don't love it but as long as somebody's willing to do that and if it's not me it'll be savannah
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hernandez there'll be other people that do it i think there will always be an audience to watch
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that sort of content who are some of the people do you do you watch i used to listen to podcasts
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and i don't as much anymore because i don't have as much time is there anybody that that you like
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I listen to Ben Shapiro, so I'm just to kind of get the argument to kind of see what he's saying.
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And, you know, I'd honestly rather probably watch CNN than Fox News, not because I agree with them, just to hear what they're saying.
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I like to kind of watch, like, you know, we were talking about this in the earlier podcast,
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and we were talking about anti-Semitism, but you know one of the reasons why I think it's
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quote-unquote on the rise, as they say, is that I am a diehard 9-11 truther. I think there's no
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doubt that 9-11 was an inside job. And even the official story, without getting any conspiracies
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about it, is that Condoleezza Rice and George Bush were both briefed by the FBI and CIA that
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there was a guy named Osama bin Laden that had a plan to fly planes into buildings in New York,
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and they just didn't take that threat serious enough.
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But young people, they're all into Tower 7 now.
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and then they hear about a text message on an all-Israeli app
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that told people not to go into the work that day.
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I would say that 9-11, look at Larry Silverstein,
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the guy that got the largest insurance check from a commercial building collapsing.
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He got not just one settlement but two because there was two terror attacks,
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I think people are kind of waking up to the world that we're living in is full of lies.
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You look at Operation Northridge, which is a plan during the Cuban Missile Crisis to fake hijack a plane
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and make it look like it was Cuban nationals to start the war during the Cuban Missile Crisis.
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So I'm saying I think that almost creates more anti-Semitism, people realizing who benefits from something like 9-11.
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Yeah, I don't know if you're big into conspiracies, but it's kind of like exactly what you said earlier.
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Isn't that what you're trying to talk about the truth?
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And for me, I just know that we're living in a world of lies.
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Anything you hear on Fox News, I'm not saying you need to believe the exact opposite,
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It's like that clip where they show all the local news anchors
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and they're all saying the same thing, even in movies.
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Movies always have some slant, have some angle.
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When you go into class, one of the first things you learn,
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oh, the Big Bang Theory, evolution, I think that's provably false.
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So for me, the reason why I'm so interested in conspiracies is because I'm actually interested in the truth.
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I don't believe them all, but I'm interested because you're not going to get that on any mainstream platform.
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So I think that kind of tickles my interest more than a lot of mainstream status quo information.
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I care about truth, and because of that, I want to expose lies.
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Ephesians says, take no part in the deeds done in unrighteousness, in the dark, but rather expose them.
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So it's not just that we maintain a state of innocence by avoiding evil and wicked things,
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but these evil and wicked things are often shrouded by darkness.
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And it's the job of Christians to not just avoid them, but to expose them.
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You know, I like that. That's a lot of that's something a lot of people know about, you know, and I can kind of consider that a conspiracy because that's when you do debate a Muslim, they don't like to talk about that, you know.
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And so that's kind of when I say conspiracy, that's more all encompassing, not just 9-11, but just kind of a truce that we just don't aren't socially acceptable to talk about.
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right yep so um exposing conspiracies uh in order to ultimately um portray the truth but the one
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step further that that i want to go is um it's not just the truth for the truth's sake but i i i
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believe that truth is the mechanism that ultimately orients people toward virtue like i actually want
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to change society like to me it wouldn't be so you're a progressive virtue segment yeah i guess
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yeah yeah and i would say progress and i don't think that's a bad thing in the truest sense
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like progressives are regressive and yeah you know it's but yeah that's true because i i've
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said before i'm not a conservative i'm not interested in conserving you know faking gay
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slop yeah right like like the hardest part about being a conservative today is saying like well
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we we love you know uh gays we just don't like transgender you know like well that the reason
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i consider myself the reason i consider myself a conservative is because i want less government
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involvement i think the government is the more that we let the government control us and you
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know what they say is that once we trade our freedom for safety we end up with neither and
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that's what the left does they want the government to be in control of everything i want less red
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tape i want less government involvement that doesn't mean that i'm a total libertarian i don't
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want rules i think that we got to have rules and you know i want to be able to have my house i don't
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want somebody to be able to steal my house i think there should be age of consent laws but i want
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less government involvement in my everyday life because i want to conserve the amount of control
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the government has on my, you know, life. Yeah. So I, so I'm, I'm not a conservative in the sense
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of just wanting to enshrine, um, the, the victories from 15 minutes ago from the left.
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So in that sense, I actually am a progressive, um, in the truest sense, not regressive into
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degeneracy and gay marriage and abortion and open borders, but, um, progressing into righteousness
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is what i'd like to see that said though um you know there was like this uh it was actually an
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imam um muslim who said uh the problem with democracy is it's for the people by the people
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of the people but the people are retarded so that's a true statement so it's really you know
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government that's you know of the retarded by the retarded for the retarded um and so my point is
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it like i i used to be more you know the big government versus small government um but the
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the more the older i get you know and especially like having children like children require a lot
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of direction like a lot of direction that you know some people are like uh like child-led
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parenting you know or montessori like child-led school and so i'm like what is this garbage like
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no they need structure they need structure they need to be led at least i needed structure but
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i look at our country and i'm like dude it's a bunch of it's a bunch of children like our like
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we our country is a country degenerates because you know i'm sure you thought your parents had
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it all figured out now that my dad and i and we've always been close but i'm i just now i
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realize my dad's successful but my dad's still figuring it out right you know are we all still
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trying to figure it out and you know we think that oh because of our dad they got it all figured out
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really now that i'm an adult you know yeah everyone's still figuring it out but not
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everyone's figuring it out equally that's a fact there are there are stages you know and
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and some people are more motivated to figure things out than others like paul said in scripture he
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said follow me as i follow christ and which implies like i'm following christ meaning i
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have not yet arrived but it's also subtly implied you could follow me as i follow christ aka i'm a
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lot further than you that's so he's you know and he's not trying to boast or be arrogant about it
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but he's just stating the fact it is in your best interest to follow me even though i haven't gotten
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to the finish line i'm still on the journey too but i am ahead of you and and so when i look at
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our country i i just see like i think we need a strong hand well well i think you're right but
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you know how we call it needs to be a righteous hand not a leftist hand well we call it the red
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pill movement because it's a famous scene from the matrix where you know he's like neo uh you
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want the red pill or blue pill and you know i sometimes kind of i feel like what's with i think
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the guy's name shark or snake where he's like i want to go plug back into the matrix i want to
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taste a steak again sometimes i do feel like and and i know a lot of people because they think i'm
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anti-lgbtq because i'm conservative but that's not true because i'm a dallas cowboys fan so i have a
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lot of gay pride but my point is sometimes i'm i am envious of the people that are ignorant to all
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the problems in the world because ignorance is bliss and because i kind of know how messed up
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things are because i'll talk to what i call like a normie you know they just watch the cowboys and
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they just you know go to their job and really i'm kind of like almost not envious because i don't
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want to be like that but i'm kind of like oh that must be kind of nice you know you know you don't
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have the same worries that i have you just think everything's going to work out and honestly i do
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think everything is going to work out joel i do think good is going to win in the end i i have
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no doubt in my mind and even though it seems like good might be losing i i do think in the end
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good will win yeah i think so too um i my eschatology i'm post-millennial i actually
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believe um in christ not just winning in the bottom of the ninth despite you know everything
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being a muck but um but christ actually tangibly and gradually winning through human history
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through the church um that all the nations will be christianized that we will um that like like
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There's a verse in Isaiah that says that they will beat their swords into plowshares and the nations will no longer know war.
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But it's not actually talking about heaven and the life to come.
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It's talking about some point in human history before Christ's final physical return, because that same text actually still talks about death still being it.
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It doesn't mean people are perfect, but it does mean that the world is generally good.
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It's like what Jesus tells a parable, a mustard seed growing into a tree that's the largest tree in all the earth.
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And it takes time, but you work that leaven through the whole batch of dough until it eventually permeates the whole batch.
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And I think that's what the Christian gospel does.
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and and i think that you know we're we're in a bit of a dip right now but but that doesn't mean
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that things won't improve at some point so i i believe in that too but i think part of the way
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that we get there it's like it's spiritual maturity is like maturity it's um i don't think
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that we're at self-governance i'll start there um america used to be great and i think a big part
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of the reason why it was a great it wasn't a raw democracy but it also wasn't a monarchy it was a
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republic and there was self-governance and you know these kinds of things universal suffrage they
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thought was ridiculous why would everyone get to vote some people aren't qualified to vote that
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makes no sense we're going to have people who are qualified they'll make these decisions yeah exactly
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yeah and men you know and like you know these kinds of things um free men white men of good
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character you know and i'm not saying that you know it has to always be you know only white
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people voting i think you know black people should be voting in uganda you know for sure so
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i'm not saying that that's a universal principle but i am saying this general principle of free
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intelligent responsible men as heads of households who um who own land they have a stake in the
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country you know they um they're not just sitting there you know um uh living off of everybody else
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they actually you know they're participating so but my point is this um it's like well that's what
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we should get back to let's get this constitution let's constitution even harder and um the founders
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i mean adam said like the constitution is wholly unfit for a people unless they're moral and
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religious and and i look at like the people that we have now and i think like how did they do it
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in america like because you could just trust your neighbors high trust society and all these kinds
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of things and they could self-govern well they did it like to be honest historically speaking
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they did it because america was birthed on on the heels of a thousand years of a christian monarch
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so for a thousand you think about it like this like people don't want it here's another thing
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that's not popular eugenics yeah okay now i'm not saying that we should force sterilize people
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like there's there's a form of eugenics that's wicked it's inherently wrong there's different
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levels of it but every religious sacred text whether it's the quran or the bible or like
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actually does have a eugenics program so think of it like this like well that's what they want is
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in the future they want us to all be one race and one sex that's part of the transgender movement
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yeah it's this radical equality which is homogeneity they want everyone to be androgynous
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the same just this this goop of humanity but look at look at the old testament um dietary restrictions
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right so you can't eat this you can't eat that you can't eat this um in addition to that um it
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restricts not not only what you eat but uh who you can marry somebody too closely related can't
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marry him too distantly related can't marry him well to be fair though i don't think incest was
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at the beginning but was there anybody in your opinion was was it just adam and eve in the garden
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or is there other people outside of the garden i think it was just adam and eve yeah i think
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everyone what about cain and abel is just cain and abel what when can oh no by the time of cain
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and abel in terms of cain murdering his brother yeah i think at that point because the bible
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doesn't give us a time date so that they could have been for all we know uh because adam lived
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to be like well over 900 years old so cain could have been 400 years old i'm not saying he was
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don't quote me on this but my point is cain and abel could have been in their 300s and adam and
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eve could have had you know a 150 more kids who then had kids who had like so there could have
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literally been a thousand people alive at the time because cain says that in genesis 4 after
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he kills his brother god puts his mark on cain because he says the uh so they don't kill him
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they don't get well who's they exactly that's what they do so i'm with you yeah and that's
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where people are like so there must have been other people but i'm i'm a bible guy and and i
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the bible i think the bible plainly teaches that everyone descended from adam and eve so i think
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there could be a they but still it's connected yeah connected but and we talked about this a
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little bit we didn't get into it you know jesus kept on talking about the rapture the rapture
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company you don't think it's possible that we're living in a post-rapture world oh i think we so
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a lot of those rapture texts i think we are um i i think a lot of those that's what i feel like
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yeah and and i think by well you look at gobekli tepe that's that's one thing and that's one of
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the oldest monasteries in the world it's like 13 000 years so it doesn't even follow the timeline
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that they give us so somewhere the numbers are screwed up if yeah if it's 13 000 or whatever
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i don't know i'm just saying they so they say i think it's ancient for sure um i think there
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are ancient temples and things like that i wouldn't date them at 13 000 years but i would
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say that they're probably six seven eight thousand years old and uh incredible engineering and running
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water and plumbing and some of these things we talked about this even batteries you know like
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the idea that the civilization so i'm on board for all that nephilim but of course but the idea
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that the civilizations before us were dumber than us today yeah that makes me sick it's like that's
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just arrogant it's just unbridled arrogance but my point is that um yes i think like i i think that
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um you know that that you know there are ancient things um and you know the the world you know
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being old but i don't think it's the dates and the the timeline that you know secular
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darwinian scientists no way provide for us i think that i think that all that is just a ploy to to
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get rid of the existence of god and they're like we know like people aren't stupid you know at least
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they're not that stupid and so we can't just say hey everything just by action happened yesterday
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but maybe if we say billions of years then they'll believe it like the billions of years is just a
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way of that's how they're replacing god i know that's how they've replaced god with time they
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literally exactly right that's that everything came from nothing because of time that's literally
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a biogenesis and billions of years is how we have which doesn't even make sense it doesn't matter
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how much time you could have infinity time nothing cannot produce something like we know this
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logically so it's like the big bang you know a speck of okay where the speck of dust come from
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you know like no matter how you slice you know i do debate some christians that believe that god
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did the big bang and that you know yeah as a means i think those christians are wrong for the record
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but but even those christians um you know that would be you know like your uh theistic evolution
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you know like but they they still recognize like there has to be a divine creator to start it if
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it has somebody had to press play you know somebody had i mean it's just there's no way that this is
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just some sort of cosmic accident and that that goes to the conspiracy thing it's like i think
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that was kind of one of my favorite conspiracies the idea of evolution and i watched hundreds of
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hours of documentaries about evolution and how dumb that is you know the idea that a fish just
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grew feet and then you know we became a monkey there's still monkeys here with us so i don't
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I don't know what happened to them. Yeah. And we don't have any transitional species like they,
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you know, you think you'd have humans with weird arms and, you know, and. Did you hear about the
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chimpanzees? Like there's the brown ones and the black ones. And there was like a civil war and
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they were fighting. Oh yeah. In Africa. Yeah. Yeah. I tweeted out, I was like, they're going
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to find some albino chimps and say that it was their fault. Yeah. Exactly. Right. Yeah. But
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there's also the white chimps, the white chimps, it's their fault. They're going to have, they're
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gonna have menorahs or yarmulkes on white chimps with tiny hats no but um but going back real quick
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the rapture that was really interesting that you mentioned that so just to explain like where i'm
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coming from so i i think that there's a lot of new testament not all of them but a lot of new
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testament passages that um that speak of a future imminent event like even the book of revelation
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it starts and says uh in chapter one it says these things which are soon to come to pass and i don't
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know about you but like 2 000 years doesn't feel soon no you know and so it's it's talking about
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this is going to happen that's going to happen jesus was constantly talking about he was so
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matthew chapter 24 jesus is the uh olivet discourse the temple mount he's like walking
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past the temple with his disciples and he makes this incredible prophecy he says like i tell you
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the truth not one stone will stand on another and the romans when they sacked you know uh emperor
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titus and they sacked jerusalem uh because it was inlaid in the stones with gold they actually to
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get the gold and extract it. They actually had to take each stone off of another. So it's like
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perfect fulfillment to what Jesus said. But here's the deal. It wasn't thousands of years later. It
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was 40 years later. And in that same discourse, Matthew 24, where Jesus says this, he talks about
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one will be in the field, two will be in the field and one will be taken, two will be in bed and one
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will be taken. And that's where you get a lot of, that's like the quintessential rapture text.
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But he also says, I tell you the truth, this generation will not pass away until these
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things come to pass. But the ones that be taken, you actually want to stay on earth though, right?
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Yeah, exactly. The ones that are taken, that's actually the bad thing. Yeah, that's the bad
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thing. Exactly. People have that misconstrued. You don't want to be taken. Exactly. So what I
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think, my rapture theology is that I don't think there's a rapture in our future. I think that
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there was in the destruction of Jerusalem as a judgment from God that happened in 80-70,
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So it would have been around 80, 30 to 80, 33 or so
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I tell you the truth, this generation will not pass away
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I think he was being literal, not metaphorical,
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but these people listening to my words right now,
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but you will see in your lifetime, in your generation,
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which included the temple being destroyed, but also two in the field, two in the bed, one taken.
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And I think it was talking about the destruction of Jerusalem as God's judgment for Israel rejecting their Messiah and crucifying him.
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And so my point is, I think that a lot of the things that we read in the Bible is this is going to happen next Thursday.
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Jesus is going to come back or, you know, in 2030, you know, that'll be the rapture.
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i i think we're reading texts that were in their future but long in our past yeah that are actually
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now i believe that there still is in our future a full you know a final culmination to history
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um and a final uh physical return of christ to judge both the living and the dead the apostles
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creed nicene but we don't know at that time but we don't but that could be 500 5 000 years from
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now and and here's the deal it's like there's a sense in which jesus tells the parable of like
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faithful servant who you do not know the time or the hour that the master returns. So you better
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be busy about his work, be on your best behavior, be a good servant. So there's a sense in which
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Jesus himself says, we should live as though he's coming back tomorrow. There's also a sense in
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which you look at Christendom in Europe and early America, some of these cathedrals took 500 years
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to build and how did they build it without power tools but but one thing i want to say was but they
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had a long-term mindset they were thinking about we don't think about our great great grandchildren
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but maybe we should you know yeah i mean you know going to what's happening today though and you
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look at iran and i do believe because i see all these israel firsters that want us to nuke iran
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and in my mind i'm like there's actually a lot of persians that are supporting israel which i think
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kind of, you know, a huge contradiction, but I do believe that what is happening now, because
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you see these videos of these rabbis talking to Benjamin Netanyahu, and they're like, hurry
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up, hurry up, I think that they want that all Aksa Mosque to get destroyed, you know,
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in a retaliatory strike, because we strike Iran, because they do believe that that will
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But I also think, I know Ben Shapiro says he hates Jesus, I think there's a lot of Jews
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actually, when they're called Jews for Jesus, that actually think Jesus was the Messiah.
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So, you know, I know that's probably maybe a small portion.
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I think what's happening today is they're trying to speed things up because they want
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that, those end times, to happen as soon as possible.
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Like, part of growing up is realizing that the world is run by demons.
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Like, that are elites, not just people in Israel, but a bunch of people in D.C., I promise you, are communing with demons.
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You know, people want to joke, and they're going to watch this and think we're crazy, but you have people like, did you ever look into Jimmy Savile?
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But I'm saying, there are people that, and I know this goes against Christ, but I do think people can do demonic rituals and summon some stuff and maybe summon success.
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Yeah. And you can talk to these people and they'll, maybe they, you traded something off in life,
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they kill your parents or whatever the trade-off is, but you can do rituals and things will happen.
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I think that that is real. Absolutely. Yeah. So I, the spiritual realm is real. The physical realm
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is also real. The physical world matters. We shouldn't pretend that it doesn't at all,
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but we shouldn't be materialist that we pretend as though the world is just stuff.
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I think materialism is one of the biggest plagues in society.
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i mean that's it's a lie and not only is it like cunning and and and deceitful but it's also just
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gross just living for stuff you know it's just pure you'll never be satisfied and i'm not you
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don't i'm not a role model don't take my advice but you know you're never gonna have the newest
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stuff you're never gonna have the biggest house and that doesn't mean you shouldn't try to be
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successful and have a good life but the idea that your self-worth is tied into an inanimate object
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is one of the most evil lies that people live under yes like i gotta have the newest car i got
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nobody cares as a matter of fact people probably dislike you more when you have the newest car
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or the newest thing it probably causes uh more social stigma so materialism is is a huge thing
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that every single company wants us to buy their new crap and slop it like that is when it comes
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to conspiracies that is one of the biggest conspiracies is that materialism is one of the
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i think that is one of the worst things that's happening in society almost as bad as you know
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degenerate porn and and i mean i think you know porn is worse but that i think they're on the
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same level yeah so all that being said i i feel like right-wing media and just media in general
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it's dying though right-wing media and even left-wing media cnn's dying msn uh now or
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whatever they had to change their name it's all it's all a dinosaur because it's right now it's
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just this um it's like a king of the hill it's it's like a battle royale for it's a um it's a
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an attention economy it is it's just i'm an expert in that yeah flashing lights whatever's you know
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30 seconds it's not about but now we're competing with ai for the attention and and we're not gonna
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be able to beat ai because they could you and i are sitting here talking for hours on a podcast
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and yes some of these clips will get a lot of attention but they can make an ai fruit video
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now that's the big thing of like two bananas right cheating on each other right and it's getting
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billions not even millions it's getting a thousand million it's getting billions of views you're
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like well how can i compete with this yeah you can't and so my point is that um a lot of the old
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american ideals it's you know like there was a there was a time where i would have said i was
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a conservative then there was a time it's like i'm a traditionalist you know i don't want to
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conserve the status quo i want to get back to the roots but then there's also something to be said
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for um you you have to move forward the only way out is through um and and whatever whatever when
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we come out on the other side whatever that looks like um i i can't pretend to be able to predict
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predict everything but at the same time i think there are some basic principles that are inevitable
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and one of them is going to be less freedom um we yes one thing that we we did in the west is we
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we exalted liberty above virtue and uh freedom just for the sake of freedom is not virtuous
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it's it's not commendable um so like just because we can doesn't mean we should like we have so like
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even when i think of freedom of speech like if a leftist is bringing me before a judge i'm going
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to appeal to the first you know amendment all day long in the constitution um but that's because i
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know that what i'm saying is right and i know that they're wicked but in theory that's what
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i'll do in practice but in theory um i don't think you should be able to say whatever you want
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you don't i don't really i don't see with speech i think we should be able to say whatever we want
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yeah but in terms of words public but public speech on public platforms um like when we think
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about policies we have to think about what they ultimately do like the end of free speech is not
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um well free speech is already taken if you if you say i love palestine on college campus you
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can get of course yeah so it's already not being practiced but let's just say theoretically that
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it was um the logical end of capitalism is only fans the logical end of freedom of speech is the
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two banana ai slot video cheating on each other yeah like that's what it leads to it leads to
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well i'm allowed to do this and i'm just but but but it's not helpful it doesn't matter it's my
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right it's my freedom it's my liberty um and everyone's just going to get like more and more
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retarded yeah it's kind of like how i don't i don't think porn is protected free speech i think
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i think because you know what i and i've done this thing where i don't i stopped looking at porn
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but you know i look at instagram and that's basically softcore porn you know what i mean
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and i'll be honest i look at instagram i mean you know i i you know we have an instagram account we
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just started a couple months ago so we're not big it's just like little reels and clips that we'll
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do like maybe 10 000 followers but i i have other guys on my team do it i don't have yeah i don't
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get on instagram but like i said is is i don't necessarily think girls shouldn't be able to post
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a bikini picture but i don't think that we should just be able to have hardcore sex and right and
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because you know also that desensitizes us to when we have normal sex you know and then and so that's
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why i think it's really bad and that's why it destroys marriages it destroys and it is i hate
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to be which is cruel to it is cheating i think looking at porn is cheating you know i don't think
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like i said i keep bringing up instagram i don't think if you look at something on instagram it's
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necessarily cheating but if you're looking at porn and you're masturbating to porn i think that that
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is cheating yes i agree so the point is like like capitalism lifted the word i i don't want to throw
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out the baby with the bathwater capitalism lifted the world out of abject poverty um you can look
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i mean it's it's a fact uh people being able to own their labor and be able to you know if
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somebody's willing to to purchase it at this price and like there there was a lot of good
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and i'm still a capitalist in in the foundational sense of like private property and but see this
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is my problem is i'm a capitalist but we have a lot of stuff that is government subsidized our
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entire military exactly so we just need to reallocate the subsidization of certain industries
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like people get mad at me because i think i don't think we should have necessarily free health care
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because then we'll be like canada and they'll just be encouraging you to do the medically
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assisted suicide but if we're going to subsidize anything we should subsidize health care you know
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i'm saying you know instead of more military i i just feel like we can have some sort of
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leftist save people instead of bomb people exactly right i think that would just be common sense but
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that's not how it works so my point is that like you look at capitalism and it did a lot of good
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but it's the year of our lord 2026 and and and that's where i've realized like at first it was
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like we must return you know as the kids say like we must return spelled with a v you know like
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we're gonna we're going back um and now i'm like no we but we can't the genie's out of the bottle
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we can't go back all we can do is go forward and and seek to honor the lord and be a virtuous
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people um in in the present not in the past we can't just larp and pretend and so it's like so
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uh cap you know you point back you're like capitalism saved the world and it's like yeah
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um but now it's killing it now it's killing it and so and that doesn't mean that like so we're
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we're communists i hate communists yeah i'm not a communism has destroyed millions and millions
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and millions but but we're um it can't just be crony capitalism it's going to here's the deal
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it's going to have to be governed um only only fans is a great capitalistic business model yeah
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infinitely scalable uh you don't have to pay anybody like i mean the barriers entry none
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only fans is is peak capitalism it's beautiful capitalism absolutely beautiful but it's a plague
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on society but it's a plague on society so but here's the deal who's going to do there's only
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one entity in society that has a god divine given um monopoly on coercion on violence
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and it's the state it's the government the government is the only the only god sanctioned
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entity that is allowed to bear the sword. And Romans 13 says that the government, the civil
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magistrate does not bear the sword in vain. He is God's avenger to deal out justice, vengeance
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on the wrongdoer. And he is to do two things, to praise the good, so like a reward for the
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righteous, and to punish the wicked. So then the question is, okay, but where does wickedness
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exist is a wickedness in markets okay then they can't be completely free like the right nick has
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said this he's right the right is going to have to bend on the free market there are elements of
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the free market and and global trade that are destroying us geopolitically it's because we're
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also intertwined economically he is right though because i look at these the farmers you know now
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you can't even be a small family farm you know now it's all monsanto you have to buy the seeds
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and buy the same soil from them so we really do need to actually totally recalibrate everything
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and and when we say we the only people who can do that is the government the government is going to
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have to put sanctions on like does it need to fail though before it can be built back up maybe
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you know that's kind of where i'm like does it need to totally collapse it might and and if
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that's the case then that's a descriptive but not prescriptive i'm not an accelerationist yeah so
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it i i'm willing to be honest enough to say it might actually have to collapse but i'm not going
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that's a description or a prediction in that case future description uh but i wouldn't be
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prescriptive and saying and therefore we as should speed it up and should speed it up and and i'm not
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an accelerationist either i but i do kind of just see the writing on the wall i kind of see it too
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and so i'm like we're heading in a not great direction and it's like um you think oh the
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government's too big to fail i don't think so i think it can fail and i think it probably will
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yeah rome was pretty big it was way bigger and and failed and it failed so but my point is it
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like if if we're gonna have any so maybe it breaks before it's rebuilt i i don't know but
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in terms of the end of what it will need to be i feel like it has to be um it we can't see small
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government as being synonymous with good government because whatever the government's
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going to look like in it's not the past anymore it's not a bunch of farmers yeah like we don't
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have a country of two million white folk yeah you know who who are farmers doing agriculture
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we have a country of 350 million people um who from all over the world a lot of them need to go
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back but but still even if a lot go back we still have different languages different peoples different
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this different that and then we have technology and ai slop and anthropic that who knows if it's
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going to destroy the world or what like all these different things and so i can't foresee any
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scenario with all those things and all the potential for evil whereas small government
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yeah well i so the only hope is it's going to have to be righteous government well yeah you're
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exactly right we do need a righteous government our government is not righteous whatsoever it's
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very immoral i think it's the opposite of moral because you know that everybody in capitol hill
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as soon as they get elected to their position they don't really care about the people you know
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There's a few good politicians up there that are willing to speak out against it.
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And she's bold and gets a lot of kickbacks.
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so my point is if we know that the game is rigged against us and the whole point of being a politician
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is basically fundraising to keep your position then they don't care about us so the people in
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power it's just so not it's just not righteous we don't have any righteous it's not and part of that
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is the system um it's it's not it's not a system that incentivizes righteous civil rulers well
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it's like machiavelli democracy incentivizes deceit and and i was reading about machiavelli
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and he did say that most people are good but the people in power are not good because of what they
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had to do to get there so we know that people in power at some point probably had to do something
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probably screw somebody over just step on somebody's head which to be fair that's why
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like monarchies like and i i know that like there there's you know it's pick your poison
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there are weaknesses on both sides so i'm not sitting here saying like the grass was perfectly
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greener um but monarchy's like the divine right to power there's no elections there's no temptation
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for the politician to lie to the people in order to win his campaign so that he could no it's like
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um you were born to rule yeah but then what is it then the people rise up like marie antoinette
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let them eat cake uh you know it's so you know people don't like there are problems over there
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too yeah but my point i know you said that but my point is just to say that like we thought that we
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could we thought monarchy that's the problem and you know divine rights of kings that's the problem
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but joel we went and started a whole country because we wanted to be taxed and now we pay
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exactly exactly so really we probably did have it kind of correct and then it just got totally
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screwed up if the rule led you to here then what good was the rule you know like that's that's and
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that's how i feel like if democracy led you to here then what good was democracy and so that
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like that's where i'm at now where i'm like it's it's not it's not small versus big and and it's
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not our sacred democracy versus monica it's just it's it's going to have to be big it's going to
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have to be powerful um it's probably going to have elements of multiple you know some democratic
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elements some aristocracy republican air uh like a republic air um elements and then probably some
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some kingly elements we'll never call it that in america because america hates kings you know but
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no kings yeah but but but it will be in function kingly um that's that's trump at his best by the
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way yeah the bet like my i mean my my great um disappointment with trump is that he's not behaving
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more like a king for the good of yeah like i i going out to the people that we know screwed us
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over he's actually just protecting them but but my point is that like whatever whatever it will be in
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the future, if it's good, if it has even a chance of being good, it's not going to be just going
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back. We can't go back. The world is different. We had things that worked for the people of that
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time. Those people no longer exist. We don't have an aristocracy of, I mean, we do, but where all
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the people are highly educated and responsible and trusting and homogenous and religious and
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christian and like so yeah so like it doesn't work anymore um and you know this goes against
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everything that we've talked about in this podcast because we want people to listen to it but i do
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really think that if i had to give advice and i if i followed all my own advice i'd be 10 times as
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successful but what we're chasing is we're worrying about things that we can't control and at the end
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of the day what is really the goal it's can being content and what makes you content you having a
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you know I don't think we are chasing contentment and for some people that's a
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lot of money or you know for some people it's a family and we are constantly
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letting other things that we can't control kind of dictate our happiness
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yes and so I think that we should now maybe that sounds we were new age but
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we should almost focus on trying to be happy in our everyday lives on the
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things we can't control and not letting all these outside influences manipulate
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us into feeling how they want us to feel sad scared happy and the true thing that makes you
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happy is like a family or whatever it is different things make different people happy but we're not
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really chasing that we're kind of we're all going to college going to be in debt we're all debt
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slaves working just to make ends meet and that's not happiness right and so you're kind of right
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that's part of the capitalistic that's a side effect of capitalism is that now you have to
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have a two-parent household with both parents working in order to support your family and so
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it's really it's it's kind of a side effect that now we're not chasing contentment we're basically
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just trying to watch movies watch porn work a little bit to pay our bills and we're we're slaves
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we're slaves yeah well thanks for coming on the show it's not the brightest point to end on but
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But I think we had some white girls in there along the way.
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We can break free from the change, though.
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And that doesn't mean you don't have to work a job or try to be successful.
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But I guess we put so much of our self-worth into the opinions of strangers.
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And if we're more unapologetically ourselves, I know that worked out for me.
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And I would encourage people to be more unapologetically themselves.
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And that doesn't mean be degenerate, but that if you are conservative, be outspoken.
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And if you're a Christian, definitely be outspoken because you know that.
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There's a social stigma surrounding being, you know, saying that you love Jesus Christ.
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You know, some people are like, oh, you're weird.
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You know, and so just be unapologetically yourself and worry about the things you can't control,
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even though Joel and I have talked about a lot of stuff that we can't control.
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But we are just trying to, I guess, talk about the elephant in the room and not letting that elephant step on our head.
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be authentic be honest be courageous and be content yeah and and that is another thing is that
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we live in a fake world and people act fake and there's times where i have to act fake i'm sure
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even you you know do you have to kind of act fake you don't want to hurt people's feelings
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but we should be more genuine that that is that is always the best recipe for success as much as
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we can yeah yeah all right thanks for coming on the show thank you appreciate it