The NXR Podcast - May 13, 2026


THE SPECIAL - Behind The Scenes In Right Wing Media w⧸Alex Stein


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In this episode of Ask Not What Your Country Can Do for You, I sit down with radical Christian Nationalist Pastor Joel Webin. We talk about Joel's rise in the media world, how he got his start, and why you should be unapologetically who you are.

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00:00:00.000 And so, my fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you.
00:00:10.360 Ask what you can do for your country.
00:00:12.800 Radical Christian Nationalist Pastor, Joel Webin.
00:00:33.420 Joel Webin?
00:00:34.220 Joel Webin.
00:00:34.820 I'm going to talk about Joel Webin.
00:00:36.580 Joel Webin is an accident.
00:00:42.800 all right here we are part two alex stein thanks for coming i get a two-part series i feel so good
00:01:01.140 about myself joel thank you for having me i really appreciate it so nice we had to do it twice um
00:01:06.500 yeah so i wanted to ask you you've been in the media scene longer than i have yeah i mean well
00:01:13.240 dude you've been crushing it you just got in it and blew up pretty quick joel thanks man but real
00:01:17.760 quick i want to talk about me but you know this is what i want to encourage people and we'll get
00:01:21.500 into this in the show is that you probably didn't expect that you'd have a lot of success this fast
00:01:25.600 but you just kind of started speaking without being filtered you're just speaking your mind
00:01:31.360 going with your gut and that's what i try to encourage people to do is that we try to always
00:01:35.920 fit you know what is it a square peg at a round hole instead of just trying to be yourself and
00:01:40.800 that's really what i tell college kids when i go and speak at college campuses the best advice you
00:01:45.400 can give somebody is to be unapologetically yourself but if you think in your mind oh if
00:01:49.380 i would have started a podcast sooner i would have been more successful sooner not really you
00:01:52.500 kind of needed your whole life to really get your world outlook and your viewpoint that you have
00:01:57.100 and that's why you're so successful is because you don't pull any punches thanks yeah i think
00:02:02.200 courage is in short supply and um and if people see courage they're attracted to it so and people
00:02:08.500 are getting more religious yeah that is finally changing we're finally seeing the trend where
00:02:13.000 young people are identifying as christian more and and i remember being young and like our teacher
00:02:19.220 telling us people are becoming less religious people right and that really was the that was
00:02:23.460 true that was true yeah and now it's the the pendulum has swung so i think you're kind of
00:02:28.340 writing you're here at a time when it's needed when more people want to go hear a podcast where
00:02:34.240 they can actually get some sort of you know scripture-based analysis instead of just listening
00:02:38.920 to you know psychobabble from maybe me alexine because you know a lot of what i do is not
00:02:43.160 scripture-based but my point is there is a an audience that is more hungry for this sort of
00:02:50.780 information than there probably was 10 years ago yes so i see there being like a pretty sizable
00:02:57.180 chasm between you know two two different groups on the right that there's and i'm not just saying
00:03:03.040 politically between like you know the neocons and the maga now emerging you know america first but
00:03:07.460 take the politics out of it for a second but just thinking of media and different um different like
00:03:12.500 ethos and and style and mechanics and those kinds of things um there are guys who are more bible
00:03:19.120 based like what you just described um and are pretty stand-up guys and i don't even mean they're
00:03:25.660 all christian like ben shapiro is a jew yeah um but old testament but yeah but ben shapiro like
00:03:32.120 i you know i don't have a lot of good things to say about him i'm i'm not really a fan that said
00:03:36.560 though to be fair because i i don't want to i don't like when people are unfair um ben shapiro
00:03:42.420 if i asked him to babysit my kids i would trust him i would trust him and see that's the thing is
00:03:47.560 i doubt that ben shapiro has ever cheated on his wife yeah um i think that uh he would hand my
00:03:52.720 children back to me he's a smart guy too he's also uh he is intelligent and he's well-spoken
00:03:57.840 um i don't know if he's that well-spoken i listen up then i mean yeah well i'm a little smarmy but
00:04:03.400 gosh i can't hardly listen to ben when i say well-spoken i mean he's articulate it doesn't
00:04:07.640 necessarily mean that the tone of his voice is pleasing but you you know what i mean yeah um
00:04:12.780 here's here's my point so on one side of like right-wing media you have
00:04:17.420 the glenn becks um the ben shapiro's the um you know guys who basically let's describe them as
00:04:26.160 um guys who would would come off as a little bit more serious um and and would be more religious
00:04:34.160 based more morality based yeah i know glenn beck is a mormon and you know ben is a jew well real
00:04:40.900 quick though i gotta cut you off you know mormonism there are some weird points of it but every
00:04:45.100 mormon that i know is usually dialed in and works hard oh of course i'm saying i actually have a lot 0.81
00:04:50.180 of respect for mormons you know i don't know if the magic underwear and some of the stuff is a
00:04:53.780 little bizarre but if it actually religiously speaking it's terrible uh but in terms of the
00:04:59.140 people they're great there's some of the most stand-up moral people like if if i lived if if
00:05:03.760 i could live in a all christian neighborhood of christian haitians or an all mormon neighborhood
00:05:09.780 of the only kind of mormons there are white as the driven snow yeah i i would live in the
00:05:14.540 salt lake city's nice have you ever been to salt lake city i don't know if you've been there but
00:05:17.520 it's nice the demographics have something to do with that yeah of course you know like we know
00:05:22.020 this it's like you know when when gavin newsom came out recently is like well uh what state was
00:05:27.160 it it was maybe it was is either alabama or it was um or it was it was one of the states of the
00:05:33.660 south and it was like your you know your murder rate is higher than ours you know and like and
00:05:38.700 you you hate on democrats you know but our policies are working it's like okay like let's pull up this
00:05:43.920 this uh state in the south let's pull up the demographics and let's pull up the demographics
00:05:48.560 of california and i did it was like the easiest thing in the world to do and it's like palos
00:05:51.700 verdes yeah the southern state was like it was like um a like 1.6 or 1.7 to 1 in terms of the
00:06:02.140 murder rate but it was a two to one in terms of um uh black residents per capita yeah well you 1.00
00:06:08.780 you know what i would argue though too is that i actually think the the problem with black culture 0.99
00:06:14.020 and and i you know i tell you this all the time i'm such a conspiracy theorist it's the two-parent 0.56
00:06:18.840 home i actually don't think that's a huge part that that is a big part of it where a lot of
00:06:23.000 these women have babies and multiple baby daddies and you know multiple baby mamas and that is kind 0.98
00:06:28.780 of what caused this problem because my dad was heavily involved in my life i don't know what
00:06:32.380 your background was but i'm guessing your dad might did you ever see zach galifian he's like
00:06:36.060 my dad would never do that he loved me yeah exactly right yeah my dad's great my dad's a
00:06:41.080 member of my church he's leading you know he's leading the congregation through song my mom is
00:06:45.880 playing piano every sunday night we do a game night my wife and my parents and my parents are
00:06:50.040 incredible yeah i'd be nowhere without my mom i was adopted as a baby i would be a deadbeat if it
00:06:55.720 wasn't for my parents adopting me as a child as a baby i yeah that would have massive effects so
00:07:02.460 a lot of times we want to make it just about you know skin color i really i think it's just more
00:07:06.720 about your nature versus nurture and if your nature is no parent and you're listening to
00:07:11.720 degenerate rap music because i do think that that going going to the conspiracy side is that
00:07:15.700 you know original rap music wasn't like get a gun shoot a person right it was it was actually just
00:07:21.760 more about hip-hop and you know like i can't even think of the names of the bands that i'm thinking
00:07:26.780 but i'm just saying it wasn't as degenerate but i do think that and if you look at billy corgan has
00:07:31.640 a good he talks about how the reason why the Smashing Pumpkins weren't even more popular is
00:07:35.780 because he noticed a trend where all of a sudden the Smashing Pumpkins even though they're a rock
00:07:40.300 band they were being played on the pop charts you know as a big crossover music he said in the
00:07:44.440 2000s all of a sudden it was the rap music that started to really be push and push and push and
00:07:49.260 you there is an argument to be made people like Michael Jordan was invested to it the private
00:07:52.860 prison industry kind of came out at the same time they needed to fill the private prison industry
00:07:57.080 up and so that's why they had more degenerate music because kind of encouraged more of a
00:08:00.780 degenerate lifestyle and like the perfect example that i use and why i believe this is that i grew
00:08:04.800 up listening to three six mafia and at the time i thought that was so funny uh uh making easy money
00:08:10.660 pipping hoses sears chicken head i thought the rap was just good but i was subconsciously
00:08:15.240 worshiping satan you know and they ended up winning an academy award the only rap person
00:08:19.320 to rap group to win an academy award i think that was done on purpose because they wanted to make
00:08:23.340 the band that is three six mafia six triple six mafia they wanted to let the satanist win who 0.56
00:08:28.580 owns those uh record labels well of course a jewish guy in nwa you know owned by a jewish guy 0.74
00:08:33.920 so so i'm with you culture i i don't know anybody who's saying that culture is not um a major factor
00:08:40.840 but just to to push back slightly so like you said skin color i all i don't know anybody saying
00:08:46.200 that culture isn't an issue i also don't really know anybody who's saying that skin color is an
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00:12:08.700 you know and so my point is well nigeria they did that they did that iq test and they were
00:12:13.100 they averaged like 70 and the guy and the guy he was trying to debate guy yeah he's like and
00:12:18.980 very disappointingly you know like yes he was like uh and so the average iq was 69 uh you know
00:12:25.140 and over 52 percent of participants were underneath 69 you know underneath 70 iq yeah so
00:12:31.480 here's my point my point is uh culture um can't be swept under the rug that that's uh that's clear
00:12:37.800 that's a major factor. But at the same time, people are different. And from a Christian
00:12:43.900 perspective, and this kind of gets back to different forms of right-wing media, because
00:12:48.260 I want to come back to that. But from a Christian perspective, there's really two sides. So one,
00:12:53.380 there is a physical side. We've talked about this on your show. We're not Gnostics. We believe that
00:12:57.780 God created a physical world. There are physical distinctions. A woman is different than a man,
00:13:02.160 not just with her personality, but she is physically different than a man, and we know this.
00:13:06.020 Um, and I believe that different peoples, tribes, tongues, nations are also different,
00:13:11.120 different strengths, different weaknesses.
00:13:12.420 I choose one of those.
00:13:13.820 I want to say this because I want to hear your pushback. 0.97
00:13:15.280 I almost value a woman more because they have the portal of divinity. 0.87
00:13:18.600 Every single soul has come through a woman's uterus and you and I don't have the ability 0.95
00:13:22.860 to do that. 1.00
00:13:23.540 Yeah.
00:13:23.660 I can't birth babies.
00:13:24.660 Yeah.
00:13:24.820 Which is, I think that is arguably the most important characteristic a person can have
00:13:28.840 to keep a society afloat.
00:13:30.240 I mean, to, you know, I know they need a man to proclaim. 1.00
00:13:32.760 Women are, yeah, they're irreplaceable. 1.00
00:13:34.720 Yeah. 1.00
00:13:34.900 But so are men.
00:13:36.020 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:13:36.820 But I hear your point. 1.00
00:13:37.900 Isn't that what they say, though, in the future, that the women are going to be able to replace us and they'll just have our, you know. 0.98
00:13:43.160 I've heard that. 1.00
00:13:43.760 You know, that's what they say.
00:13:44.620 I've heard that, yeah. 0.97
00:13:45.140 They'll just have a sperm banks and we'll be gone.
00:13:47.660 And the only baby that will come out will be an IVF girl. 0.95
00:13:50.480 Yeah. 0.99
00:13:51.300 Yeah, but their voting will be terrible and their countries will go to house. 0.96
00:13:55.880 And I know you're against gay marriage, but I was arguing with somebody about gay marriage. 0.99
00:13:59.760 And I'm like, you know, I really don't think it's good. 0.98
00:14:01.920 You know, I'm not for gay marriage.
00:14:03.500 but if you're a lesbian did you know lesbian couples have the highest rate of divorce
00:14:08.420 they do yeah it's just like and a really like shockingly high uh rate of physical abuse
00:14:14.180 well that doesn't surprise me but i was i was trying i was talking to a lesbian i was like so
00:14:18.640 go get married you're gonna get a divorce that's kind of my argument to her uh yeah and so there
00:14:23.260 is something like this is really crazy and i do believe this but people are gonna what are you 0.59
00:14:27.220 talking about i think being a lesbian is almost fake because two girls can kiss and then she can
00:14:31.680 go marry a guy but if two guys kiss that's gay and i know you can you know you can maybe you know
00:14:36.540 convert and go well biblically speaking did you know there there's uh i mean the old testament
00:14:41.660 has a lot of laws so it's not like they just missed it right i mean you're talking about
00:14:45.160 hundreds thousands of different civil codes moral codes ceremonial codes but all you need is to know
00:14:49.720 hide laws but there's no no uh but there's no there was not actually a uh penalty against
00:14:57.040 lesbianism but there was against uh yes wow see that makes that makes i'm now my and that's not
00:15:03.740 to say that lesbianism is therefore morally permissible yeah and it's not to say that god
00:15:08.260 viewed it as more but it's not as repugnant it's not yeah and and i think we kind of know without 0.88
00:15:12.840 being too graphic one of the reasons why yeah i agree it's like we're lesbians we have sex no you 0.99
00:15:17.860 don't you don't have sex yeah you don't you don't i agree and two men are but men do sodomy yeah 0.99
00:15:22.980 and and it's really really repugnant and all women are kind of gay you know they're kind of like you 0.99
00:15:28.140 know uh touching each other i'm just saying it's it's just more socially acceptable for women to 0.92
00:15:31.660 kind of be touching and feeling on women but a guy that's that's weird so i think culturally
00:15:36.860 lesbian is lesbians are fake it's not a real thing yeah it really is not a real thing i agree 0.61
00:15:43.820 um so all that being said um the point is men and women are different i think i think race is real 0.99
00:15:49.540 so i would describe myself as a race realist yeah so that's the only thing i'm going back to like
00:15:53.740 the culture and this gets back to the media so you know back to back to back but like i think that
00:15:58.940 there are good guys in on on right-wing media and when i say good guys i like actually detest uh
00:16:04.820 their message and a lot of the things that they're promoting um but i mean good guys like like they
00:16:09.940 don't cheat on their wife i would trust them to watch my kids like they're um they're stand-up 0.53
00:16:14.060 guys they're moral other than ben shapiro being happy to palestinian children are dying he's
00:16:18.500 probably an okay guy that's what i mean that's what i mean and then so here's your bible-based
00:16:22.900 and again i know he's he's not bible-based he's a jew well the old testament i mean i know i'm
00:16:27.280 just saying but it's the old testament undone by the talmud that that you know it's a lot of the
00:16:33.220 no-hide laws where does that come into play like why is ben shapiro say a christian can get into
00:16:38.600 heaven as long as he follows the no-hide laws i don't know what ben shapiro is saying with that
00:16:43.240 but he has said that no talmudic jew actually believes that oh they don't so that might be
00:16:47.660 unique to him i've heard him say that on his podcast maybe he believes that but no that's
00:16:52.140 that's not that's not a staple of judy oh okay not not not from my awareness so my point is just
00:16:58.740 to simply say that um you you've got some moral guys whether it's a glenn beck or it's a ben
00:17:04.760 shapiro or it's a whoever um and these guys you know usually have some kind of religious claim
00:17:10.640 um that's you know you know something over here you've got you know the new right ascendant right
00:17:18.840 whatever you want to call it that's emerging america first kind of guys who are like they're
00:17:23.260 they're j-pilled they're aware of israel they're also very much you know race realist you know
00:17:30.620 some of them are more than race realist some of them actually are you know maybe a supremacist
00:17:35.820 you know or whatever but but the point is these guys don't really care that much about
00:17:40.260 any religious claim they're not necessarily moral so they'll say based you know hashtag
00:17:45.020 they're kind of pro muslim i know see you know yes that's it yeah so exactly so like so they
00:17:50.740 say some based things um but they a lot of them aren't married they they don't they're not family
00:17:57.420 men yeah they're um they get drunk a lot they you know you find them in the club you know that's
00:18:03.340 what was so funny about like the the video with like all these right-wing guys and nick is kind
00:18:07.800 of like a fish out of water yeah nick is not a club guy but but here's the and i like that about
00:18:12.020 nick and i personally i wish he hadn't gone even that one time but i but i know that he you know
00:18:17.020 he didn't drink and he didn't get drunk or anything like that but the point is nick is the
00:18:20.920 exception that's the point i'm making i think we both agree so nick is is standing like a fish out
00:18:26.140 of water and and he stands distinct because he's the only one all these other guys are based in
00:18:31.880 some of their talking points but they're they're they're immoral they're degenerate and so all that
00:18:36.520 being said back to what you said about me i think part of the reason for the success if i might be
00:18:41.540 so bold i think part of it is because um i'm j-pilled i'm a race realist um i i'm patriarchal
00:18:49.800 i make no apology for that i think that men should lead everything not just the church and the home
00:18:54.460 but uh in civil politics i think men are are called by god to live in uh lead in society so
00:19:01.460 all these kinds of things that you would find over here with kind of like the new right degenerate
00:19:05.520 right um and yet i have five kids and a wife i pastor a church i use the bible as a basis for
00:19:12.640 my views um and i think that's that's what i was gonna say is that like with media right now you've
00:19:18.960 got these guys kind of ascendant and these guys kind of falling off a cliff in terms of just
00:19:22.900 views and yes and clout yes so you got the moral the moral boomers and boomer is a state of mind
00:19:29.580 it's not just an age you know like ben shapiro is a boomer yes not by age but by heart but what's
00:19:34.720 weird is that but to me it blows my mind that the boomers are so supportive of israel because it was
00:19:38.660 just the 60s and 70s people were very critical of israel yeah they were judaism so i'm like where
00:19:44.760 did this thing was it the 70s 80s 90s where because i remember my dad wanted to change my last name to
00:19:49.860 stone because he said you know you're not jewish you're going to be you know persecuted for being
00:19:53.620 stein right and i was like well i don't want to change my last name you know we didn't but
00:19:57.580 so my dad was hip to it when i was born in 86 so you know people have been critical of israel i
00:20:04.300 guess maybe not outspokenly critical for centuries yeah yeah for say to say the least not not of
00:20:09.300 israel but but jews yeah yeah you know long before the nation state so no you you're right but my
00:20:14.860 point is like take the israel that's you know that's the issue of the day right now but take
00:20:18.940 that out of the equation when i say boomers i just mean um like like what i'm not picking on you but
00:20:25.020 like you can pick like they you know like it's just culture whereas i would say no uh it is
00:20:31.080 culture yeah uh with when it comes to contributing factor that is a clearly in a huge one not a small
00:20:37.000 one at the same time though um black people are different than white people yeah and and that
00:20:44.760 doesn't even mean my my my opinion as a christian is i actually think that um that black people can
00:20:51.720 change. I think all people can change, but slowly over time. I think any individual can be changed 1.00
00:20:57.000 by the Lord Jesus Christ through conversion, by the power of the Holy Spirit, be a Christian,
00:21:00.780 but you still got those demons that you wrestle with. So it's like, so I actually, I'll put it
00:21:06.960 like this. It's like how Indians are, not dot Indians, but Native Americans are just totally 0.93
00:21:10.660 addicted to alcohol. That's a genetic thing. Yes. And so it's like, the phrase that I'll use 1.00
00:21:17.060 is this uh besetting sins of particular people besetting sins of particular people what i mean
00:21:22.540 by that is i think every every people group you can look and you can detect certain strengths and 0.86
00:21:27.740 certain you know pitfalls and weaknesses um so i'll you know i'll pick on white people because
00:21:32.140 i'm white you know so that one's easy so europeans i would say and i don't think this
00:21:36.220 was always true of europeans i know it wasn't but i would say for the last
00:21:39.640 150 arguably even 300 years definitely the last 150 years i would say um european
00:21:46.860 those of european descent uh tend to have a weak point speaking in generality so not each and every
00:21:52.960 individual but on the whole uh gullible um morally passive um cowardly um the like the things that
00:22:04.780 would lend towards social suicide uh toxic empathy just giving away the farm you know it's like yeah
00:22:12.180 that's clearly um a weak point right now and i would say like uh look at the uk i think that's
00:22:17.960 the perfect example of it yes and i and i think i could we could also say that like okay so now 0.66
00:22:22.980 we got white people out of the way started with them um black people um if if i am doing the work
00:22:30.300 as as an evangelist and i'm ministering and and i live in a neighborhood that's predominantly black
00:22:35.620 and by god's grace like he saves the whole neighborhood and they're all a part of my church
00:22:40.120 now um if it was a white church like they're saved where i'm not saying that they're not christians
00:22:46.500 i'm not saying they don't love jesus and i'm not saying that that didn't make a real uh detectable
00:22:51.400 moral improvement in their lives but i would say but there's still these besetting sins that are 0.91
00:22:56.580 that that that that die slowly they're hard to kill and so um here's a bunch of white people
00:23:02.660 and they're christians and they love jesus but there's a propensity in general not every single
00:23:08.740 one of them and not every single time but in general a propensity towards apathy towards uh
00:23:14.920 gullibility towards uh toxic empathy preferring others at the expense of their own people their
00:23:20.680 own children they're like their own welfare um and if i was pastoring you know here's the black
00:23:25.860 church like and they're genuinely born again they're christians they've grown they've improved 0.67
00:23:30.500 um but also like i probably you know like an ex-alcoholic i wouldn't take him to a bar
00:23:37.020 yeah the black church that i'm pastoring i would if white people came and visited i wouldn't say
00:23:43.540 hey everybody just leave your bikes out yeah and it does seem like they like to tell because i
00:23:47.920 want to tempt them yeah i know and they do like to talk i said that i went there yeah i know there
00:23:52.240 are some character traits that are there are some character traits and so anyway so but my point
00:23:57.180 that right there i use it as an example okay that's not the point of the podcast but um me
00:24:02.000 saying that right there right that'll get clipped out i'll get i'll get crap for that um but you
00:24:06.540 said like hey you you know you kind of came out of nowhere and you're growing it's because of that
00:24:09.760 yeah it's because of that you're not pulling punches because what you've got is glenn beck
00:24:13.380 who would never say that yeah but also probably not cheat on his wife yeah you know um and then
00:24:18.260 you've got andrew tate who would absolutely say that with less qualifiers than i did but also
00:24:25.660 you know have like only fans models working for him you know and so pornography shoots but there
00:24:31.200 is a younger generation of men who i think want to be moral and they want to not just be based
00:24:37.080 they want something tried true tradition old rooted they want religion i think people want
00:24:42.560 tradition i really do think but they don't want religion christianity particularly if 0.51
00:24:48.100 christianity is what the boomers have insisted it is which is suicide yeah because the boomers
00:24:54.340 is a good description of what's happening i think that's what's happening so so i'm like christian 0.62
00:24:59.820 with a spine muscular christianity i i hold to the christianity um that inspired the crusades
00:25:06.860 yeah that fought off entire nations for god country and kin i believe in that christianity
00:25:12.440 and that i think you've got the new degenerate right you've got the old boomer religious right
00:25:19.320 but with you know that's just basically just handing their grandkids to the grave and and
00:25:25.580 then you have this gaping chasm in between. And I predict, I might be wrong, because I'm not the
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00:26:36.600 And to your point, though, I don't know what the exact number is. I've heard, I don't know if it's
00:26:41.160 Glenn or maybe he's even Ben Shapiro talking about, there's only about 50 million people that
00:26:45.040 even kind of consume conservative media and that's why they are so threatened by nick or by tucker
00:26:50.200 because they've taken a big piece of that kind of small pie and so that i think that's also why
00:26:54.620 you're being able to be successful because it is kind of a smaller pie but there are people are not
00:26:58.980 happy with uh the glenn becks necessarily so that is why they are able to find you and that's why
00:27:04.240 they you know vibe with what you're saying which the irony is like all those guys they broke up
00:27:10.080 the legacy media that came before them and now we're breaking and they're getting mad about it
00:27:14.400 right and they're getting mad i mean like the ben shapiro only became a thing because it was like
00:27:19.760 he came in and broke up you know part of the market share from fox news and from you know
00:27:24.140 and then you know and then and they don't want to take part of their pie right exactly so that's
00:27:29.280 just that's the way of the world that's you know and that and that's continuing and i don't see it
00:27:33.100 stopping anytime soon but that said my point is i'm curious you've been in the media space you've
00:27:37.840 done a lot of different things you've done you know we talked about you know previously you've
00:27:41.360 done like reality shows yeah yeah you know a producer for cheaters you know for eight years
00:27:46.120 and you've done you know you worked at the blaze for a little while and you worked there for three
00:27:50.000 years so i'm i'm curious what do you because i am new to this so i i gave my little spiel but now i
00:27:56.040 really want to hear from you um what do you predict where is this going what's right wing media if i
00:28:02.920 had to predict far in the future where it's going sadly what goes viral joel clips of you you know
00:28:09.340 I mean, you can speak on these hour long podcasts, but people don't have the attention span.
00:28:14.160 So I think the future, it's going to be like Brave New World, where sadly, I think they
00:28:19.460 called it like the tellies, where it was basically like porno and news, like they would go to
00:28:23.840 the theater in there.
00:28:24.620 It was like, that's literally what our content is going to be like.
00:28:27.260 It's going to be, and you kind of say the degenerate, right?
00:28:29.720 But believe it or not, it's going to be like the movie Idiocracy.
00:28:32.820 You know what I mean?
00:28:33.540 And I like Donald Trump. 1.00
00:28:35.420 I know you're a little more critical than I am of him, but he is the grab-em-by-the-pussy president. 1.00
00:28:40.240 And I would imagine that there's going to be more grab-em-by-the-pussy presidents in the future. 0.99
00:28:46.020 And that's kind of where I see the media landscape going is that you're going to have to almost make long-form content, 0.97
00:28:51.360 specifically clip farming for the short-form content that people get, and it's going to be out-of-context content.
00:28:57.740 Always.
00:28:58.220 And I think that that is kind of where we're going is that's the direction where people just have such a short attention span.
00:29:03.020 it's just going to be clips and that's why they don't like nick because his clips do so well
00:29:06.160 yeah yeah they do so how how will that even function as an industry because at that point
00:29:12.400 it's just you know d's not scroper 667 who's clip farming like so nick nick doesn't even
00:29:18.100 no he didn't even make money from it yeah there's clippers so what do you think will
00:29:22.060 happen with that because somebody will have to still make content for all these guys to clip out
00:29:25.740 what will be their incentive well see if we're going like what i think is going to happen and
00:29:31.800 And now with Neuralink, what Elon Musk is doing, that's another complaint that I have with Elon Musk.
00:29:35.800 Neuralink sounds so good.
00:29:36.900 Oh, a soldier blows his arm off, and now he can have a robotic arm.
00:29:40.960 And I'm all for that.
00:29:42.360 But I do think that this is what the – and it's not so distant future, actually, that they're going to have us plug into the metaverse, and they're going to have us live in some sort of simulation.
00:29:51.140 And they'll tell everybody, well, in the metaverse, instead of living for 70 years here on Earth, you can live for a million years.
00:29:57.360 And you plug into this computer, and in the metaverse, you're like, well, how do you make money?
00:30:01.300 Well, in the metaverse, you'll probably have credits.
00:30:02.860 You'll be able to buy stuff, and you'll just be looking at ads the whole time.
00:30:05.980 So I think that this media landscape, luckily now we have ways where people can support
00:30:11.380 independent content creators, but if that ever dies out, that's what they want.
00:30:15.520 I think they want us all to literally plug into a computer, and once you plug into that
00:30:18.580 computer, they'll say, oh, this is better for climate change.
00:30:20.640 You'll be intubated.
00:30:21.440 You'll basically be comatose.
00:30:23.520 I think that's what they want.
00:30:24.580 I know that sounds crazy.
00:30:26.280 It might sound too conspiratorial, but I really do believe that is where we're heading, especially
00:30:30.420 with all the new artificial intelligence that that's that's the one that that's what they want
00:30:34.360 to do is live in this fake world and just be intubated and live in a video game and maybe that
00:30:39.960 is not going to happen in our lifetimes probably not but that's kind of where i just see media 0.68
00:30:44.220 going because it's just like tv's dead nobody's watching tv right and and all the boomers that
00:30:49.760 are here sadly my dad's a boomer he's not going to be here in 10 years probably and that you know
00:30:54.900 i can just cry thinking about that but and so all the boomers will be gone in 10 years and you and 0.99
00:30:59.620 I will be, you know, we'll be a little older and just these young people are not going
00:31:03.320 to be watching the same content that we're watching now.
00:31:05.320 And it's going to be drastically different.
00:31:07.560 I can't really foresee exactly what that is going to be, but I kind of go back to Brave
00:31:11.320 New World.
00:31:11.780 Like it's going to be short form content, like Instagram tits and maybe some news. 0.90
00:31:16.360 Like, you know, they have those clips where the women do the news naked, like it's going 0.98
00:31:20.260 to be like that, literally that degenerate.
00:31:22.020 Unless we have people like yourself, where we still have a spiritual, you know, connection
00:31:27.100 into this world but they're trying to kill god every single day they're trying to hide his
00:31:30.400 existence and i don't think that will ever necessarily happen but a lot of people have
00:31:34.160 fallen into that trap right now and potentially more people could fall under that trap yeah so
00:31:39.600 yeah i think a slop in dated war slop in dated world yeah we're gonna be watching ai slap constantly
00:31:45.780 so i think that's what you know the powers that be want and there's certainly the mechanisms for
00:31:51.680 that to take place but at the same time there's this other narrative you know beneath the surface
00:31:57.800 which you are also firsthand and witnessing where like you have a lot of young people returning to
00:32:04.980 church yeah returning to christ actually wanting to be informed not like i because i see both i
00:32:12.240 see like the slot machine all-encompassing slot machine but i also see like a lot of young people
00:32:18.360 rejecting it and debate is huge people love debate you know that's what made charlie big
00:32:23.420 to prove me wrong but people just love debates and you can't maybe you can do a fake ai debate but
00:32:28.960 people want to see friction people want to see conflict and that is i think that's kind of the
00:32:33.760 future of media too it's like pierce morgan look at his show whether you like him or not
00:32:37.160 he just has a bunch of people and basically yell at each other right and that's what people want
00:32:42.540 watch yeah that's true all right so um what do you plan on doing long term you know for me i have
00:32:51.300 well it's not a secret weapon because my good friend savannah hernandez i saw i'm sure you
00:32:55.720 saw where she got assaulted at that protest um oh yeah i know that at the end of the day
00:33:02.020 even if my podcast doesn't work out if this doesn't work out as long as i go and get content
00:33:06.860 what they call man on the street and it doesn't necessarily need to be man on the street interviews
00:33:10.220 but that's what people want to see the real world because everybody's stuck on their couch everybody's stuck in their nine-to-five
00:33:14.400 I know that I'll always have some sort of following or success by just putting a camp kind of like what Nick Shirley does
00:33:20.600 going out there and covering what's happening in the real world so I feel like that's kind of my backup plan
00:33:25.260 not that I do that now it's it's kind of my main plan but I feel like there will always be a an audience for that type of content
00:33:34.320 going to protests and I think there's only going to be more protests in the near future so that's kind of where I see myself going
00:33:39.340 is, yes, I can talk on a podcast for an hour
00:33:41.120 and interview people like you
00:33:42.160 and interview people at a different viewpoints,
00:33:43.980 but going and seeing the confrontation
00:33:46.280 and covering it in person,
00:33:47.820 that, to me, I think will always be a successful strategy.
00:33:52.220 Do you think, so I, okay, that makes sense.
00:33:55.000 I get why people would want to watch it,
00:33:57.260 why that does well.
00:33:58.600 I also agree with your assessment
00:34:00.800 that there's only going to be more,
00:34:02.800 not less opportunities to do that.
00:34:04.600 More protests, more political friction,
00:34:06.740 all these kinds of things.
00:34:07.660 um upheavals uh but i think my question the only the only pin you know popping that balloon that
00:34:15.820 i could foresee is um but what if we get to a point where like you can you can try but you'll
00:34:23.280 be dead you mean if i go to protest they'll just kill me yeah like if tensions continue to heat up
00:34:29.040 where it's like yeah that that makes for good content uh but at the risk of your own life i
00:34:34.300 think it only gets that bad as if they cut off the internet because i'm good friends with tim
00:34:38.900 pool have you been on tim show yet yeah okay and you know whether you like tim or not i him and he's
00:34:43.340 one of my best friends so i like him but he's always talking about the civil war i think that
00:34:47.680 if they cut off the internet we would have people shooting each other in the street and then if
00:34:51.200 that's the case the internet doesn't work then what's the point of making some content so until
00:34:55.000 they turn off the internet and and i've been at protests where the cops stood down so it is
00:34:59.200 dangerous but no risk no reward every day that i get up in the morning and drive my car i'm
00:35:04.220 taking a calculated risk so i it sucks i had to put myself in dangerous situations and i trust me
00:35:09.080 i don't love it but as long as somebody's willing to do that and if it's not me it'll be savannah
00:35:13.480 hernandez there'll be other people that do it i think there will always be an audience to watch
00:35:18.300 that sort of content who are some of the people do you do you watch i used to listen to podcasts
00:35:24.940 and i don't as much anymore because i don't have as much time is there anybody that that you like
00:35:30.560 I mean, you know, we talked about him a lot.
00:35:33.320 I listen to Tucker.
00:35:34.400 I listen to Nick.
00:35:35.320 I listen to Ben Shapiro, so I'm just to kind of get the argument to kind of see what he's saying.
00:35:40.600 And, you know, I'd honestly rather probably watch CNN than Fox News, not because I agree with them, just to hear what they're saying.
00:35:46.240 I think I hate watching a lot of stuff, sadly.
00:35:49.200 I don't know why that is.
00:35:52.340 And I don't consume a lot of media.
00:35:54.200 I try to read a lot.
00:35:55.340 I like to watch a lot of conspiracy videos.
00:35:57.020 I like to kind of watch, like, you know, we were talking about this in the earlier podcast, 1.00
00:36:00.980 and we were talking about anti-Semitism, but you know one of the reasons why I think it's
00:36:04.300 quote-unquote on the rise, as they say, is that I am a diehard 9-11 truther. I think there's no
00:36:09.700 doubt that 9-11 was an inside job. And even the official story, without getting any conspiracies
00:36:14.140 about it, is that Condoleezza Rice and George Bush were both briefed by the FBI and CIA that
00:36:19.340 there was a guy named Osama bin Laden that had a plan to fly planes into buildings in New York,
00:36:23.260 and they just didn't take that threat serious enough. 0.63
00:36:25.460 But young people, they're all into Tower 7 now.
00:36:28.140 They all know.
00:36:29.100 And then they hear about the dancing Israelis,
00:36:30.740 and then they hear about a text message on an all-Israeli app
00:36:33.860 that told people not to go into the work that day. 0.51
00:36:36.140 I would say that 9-11, look at Larry Silverstein,
00:36:38.920 the guy that got the largest insurance check from a commercial building collapsing.
00:36:43.840 He got not just one settlement but two because there was two terror attacks,
00:36:47.140 and I think it was $7 billion.
00:36:49.200 I think people are kind of waking up to the world that we're living in is full of lies.
00:36:54.700 You look at Operation Northridge, which is a plan during the Cuban Missile Crisis to fake hijack a plane 0.76
00:36:59.980 and make it look like it was Cuban nationals to start the war during the Cuban Missile Crisis.
00:37:05.480 So I'm saying I think that almost creates more anti-Semitism, people realizing who benefits from something like 9-11.
00:37:10.400 Yeah.
00:37:11.180 What's the appeal of conspiracies?
00:37:14.040 Yeah, I don't know if you're big into conspiracies, but it's kind of like exactly what you said earlier.
00:37:17.700 Truth, right?
00:37:18.280 Isn't that what you're trying to talk about the truth?
00:37:19.960 And for me, I just know that we're living in a world of lies.
00:37:23.980 What they tell us is not the truth.
00:37:25.700 Anything you hear on Fox News, I'm not saying you need to believe the exact opposite,
00:37:29.200 but I'm telling you there's some sort of bias.
00:37:30.820 It's like that clip where they show all the local news anchors
00:37:33.260 and they're all saying the same thing, even in movies.
00:37:36.340 Movies always have some slant, have some angle.
00:37:38.700 We talked about this earlier.
00:37:40.220 When you go into class, one of the first things you learn,
00:37:42.440 oh, the Big Bang Theory, evolution, I think that's provably false.
00:37:46.020 So for me, the reason why I'm so interested in conspiracies is because I'm actually interested in the truth.
00:37:51.200 And so that's kind of what motivates me.
00:37:52.960 I don't believe them all, but I'm interested because you're not going to get that on any mainstream platform.
00:37:59.580 So I think that kind of tickles my interest more than a lot of mainstream status quo information.
00:38:09.020 So I'm with you 100%.
00:38:10.600 I care about truth, and because of that, I want to expose lies.
00:38:14.040 Ephesians says, take no part in the deeds done in unrighteousness, in the dark, but rather expose them.
00:38:22.780 So it's not just that we maintain a state of innocence by avoiding evil and wicked things,
00:38:30.180 but these evil and wicked things are often shrouded by darkness. 0.93
00:38:33.660 And it's the job of Christians to not just avoid them, but to expose them. 1.00
00:38:38.660 So I'm 100% on board. 1.00
00:38:40.060 Like Muhammad marrying a nine-year-old. 0.67
00:38:41.820 You know, I like that. That's a lot of that's something a lot of people know about, you know, and I can kind of consider that a conspiracy because that's when you do debate a Muslim, they don't like to talk about that, you know. 0.98
00:38:52.100 And so that's kind of when I say conspiracy, that's more all encompassing, not just 9-11, but just kind of a truce that we just don't aren't socially acceptable to talk about. 0.77
00:39:02.220 right yep so um exposing conspiracies uh in order to ultimately um portray the truth but the one
00:39:10.980 step further that that i want to go is um it's not just the truth for the truth's sake but i i i
00:39:17.980 believe that truth is the mechanism that ultimately orients people toward virtue like i actually want
00:39:25.200 to change society like to me it wouldn't be so you're a progressive virtue segment yeah i guess
00:39:30.420 yeah yeah and i would say progress and i don't think that's a bad thing in the truest sense
00:39:34.920 like progressives are regressive and yeah you know it's but yeah that's true because i i've 0.96
00:39:40.380 said before i'm not a conservative i'm not interested in conserving you know faking gay 0.87
00:39:44.540 slop yeah right like like the hardest part about being a conservative today is saying like well 0.96
00:39:49.580 we we love you know uh gays we just don't like transgender you know like well that the reason 0.94
00:39:55.660 i consider myself the reason i consider myself a conservative is because i want less government 1.00
00:39:59.660 involvement i think the government is the more that we let the government control us and you
00:40:03.560 know what they say is that once we trade our freedom for safety we end up with neither and
00:40:08.640 that's what the left does they want the government to be in control of everything i want less red
00:40:12.360 tape i want less government involvement that doesn't mean that i'm a total libertarian i don't
00:40:15.720 want rules i think that we got to have rules and you know i want to be able to have my house i don't
00:40:20.340 want somebody to be able to steal my house i think there should be age of consent laws but i want
00:40:24.000 less government involvement in my everyday life because i want to conserve the amount of control
00:40:28.840 the government has on my, you know, life. Yeah. So I, so I'm, I'm not a conservative in the sense
00:40:34.880 of just wanting to enshrine, um, the, the victories from 15 minutes ago from the left.
00:40:41.220 So in that sense, I actually am a progressive, um, in the truest sense, not regressive into
00:40:46.580 degeneracy and gay marriage and abortion and open borders, but, um, progressing into righteousness
00:40:53.260 is what i'd like to see that said though um you know there was like this uh it was actually an
00:41:00.780 imam um muslim who said uh the problem with democracy is it's for the people by the people 0.97
00:41:07.200 of the people but the people are retarded so that's a true statement so it's really you know 0.99
00:41:12.660 government that's you know of the retarded by the retarded for the retarded um and so my point is 0.97
00:41:18.820 it like i i used to be more you know the big government versus small government um but the 0.94
00:41:25.180 the more the older i get you know and especially like having children like children require a lot
00:41:31.800 of direction like a lot of direction that you know some people are like uh like child-led
00:41:37.300 parenting you know or montessori like child-led school and so i'm like what is this garbage like
00:41:43.520 no they need structure they need structure they need to be led at least i needed structure but 0.83
00:41:48.980 i look at our country and i'm like dude it's a bunch of it's a bunch of children like our like
00:41:54.320 we our country is a country degenerates because you know i'm sure you thought your parents had
00:42:00.740 it all figured out now that my dad and i and we've always been close but i'm i just now i
00:42:04.920 realize my dad's successful but my dad's still figuring it out right you know are we all still
00:42:09.100 trying to figure it out and you know we think that oh because of our dad they got it all figured out
00:42:13.040 really now that i'm an adult you know yeah everyone's still figuring it out but not
00:42:17.660 everyone's figuring it out equally that's a fact there are there are stages you know and
00:42:22.660 and some people are more motivated to figure things out than others like paul said in scripture he
00:42:26.720 said follow me as i follow christ and which implies like i'm following christ meaning i
00:42:31.660 have not yet arrived but it's also subtly implied you could follow me as i follow christ aka i'm a
00:42:37.980 lot further than you that's so he's you know and he's not trying to boast or be arrogant about it
00:42:42.820 but he's just stating the fact it is in your best interest to follow me even though i haven't gotten
00:42:47.820 to the finish line i'm still on the journey too but i am ahead of you and and so when i look at
00:42:52.880 our country i i just see like i think we need a strong hand well well i think you're right but
00:42:59.500 you know how we call it needs to be a righteous hand not a leftist hand well we call it the red
00:43:04.460 pill movement because it's a famous scene from the matrix where you know he's like neo uh you
00:43:09.460 want the red pill or blue pill and you know i sometimes kind of i feel like what's with i think
00:43:14.920 the guy's name shark or snake where he's like i want to go plug back into the matrix i want to
00:43:18.540 taste a steak again sometimes i do feel like and and i know a lot of people because they think i'm
00:43:23.880 anti-lgbtq because i'm conservative but that's not true because i'm a dallas cowboys fan so i have a 0.94
00:43:28.480 lot of gay pride but my point is sometimes i'm i am envious of the people that are ignorant to all 0.54
00:43:35.320 the problems in the world because ignorance is bliss and because i kind of know how messed up 0.90
00:43:40.220 things are because i'll talk to what i call like a normie you know they just watch the cowboys and
00:43:44.560 they just you know go to their job and really i'm kind of like almost not envious because i don't
00:43:49.200 want to be like that but i'm kind of like oh that must be kind of nice you know you know you don't
00:43:52.660 have the same worries that i have you just think everything's going to work out and honestly i do
00:43:56.500 think everything is going to work out joel i do think good is going to win in the end i i have
00:44:00.060 no doubt in my mind and even though it seems like good might be losing i i do think in the end
00:44:04.540 good will win yeah i think so too um i my eschatology i'm post-millennial i actually
00:44:11.240 believe um in christ not just winning in the bottom of the ninth despite you know everything
00:44:17.140 being a muck but um but christ actually tangibly and gradually winning through human history
00:44:22.980 through the church um that all the nations will be christianized that we will um that like like
00:44:29.740 There's a verse in Isaiah that says that they will beat their swords into plowshares and the nations will no longer know war.
00:44:36.640 But it's not actually talking about heaven and the life to come.
00:44:40.180 It's talking about some point in human history before Christ's final physical return, because that same text actually still talks about death still being it.
00:44:49.140 So people still live and die.
00:44:50.700 It's still human life before heaven.
00:44:54.040 But hostility is not what it once was.
00:44:57.720 It doesn't mean people are perfect, but it does mean that the world is generally good.
00:45:02.300 There's a goodness that is so permeated.
00:45:04.920 It's like what Jesus tells a parable, a mustard seed growing into a tree that's the largest tree in all the earth.
00:45:10.680 Or a little bit of leaven.
00:45:11.820 Yeah, a little bit of leaven permeating.
00:45:14.140 And it takes time, but you work that leaven through the whole batch of dough until it eventually permeates the whole batch.
00:45:21.460 And I think that's what the Christian gospel does.
00:45:24.140 and and i think that you know we're we're in a bit of a dip right now but but that doesn't mean
00:45:30.780 that things won't improve at some point so i i believe in that too but i think part of the way
00:45:36.500 that we get there it's like it's spiritual maturity is like maturity it's um i don't think
00:45:42.240 that we're at self-governance i'll start there um america used to be great and i think a big part
00:45:50.900 of the reason why it was a great it wasn't a raw democracy but it also wasn't a monarchy it was a
00:45:55.000 republic and there was self-governance and you know these kinds of things universal suffrage they
00:45:59.300 thought was ridiculous why would everyone get to vote some people aren't qualified to vote that
00:46:02.880 makes no sense we're going to have people who are qualified they'll make these decisions yeah exactly 0.79
00:46:07.580 yeah and men you know and like you know these kinds of things um free men white men of good 0.75
00:46:12.820 character you know and i'm not saying that you know it has to always be you know only white
00:46:17.600 people voting i think you know black people should be voting in uganda you know for sure so
00:46:21.520 i'm not saying that that's a universal principle but i am saying this general principle of free
00:46:25.980 intelligent responsible men as heads of households who um who own land they have a stake in the
00:46:33.660 country you know they um they're not just sitting there you know um uh living off of everybody else
00:46:40.380 they actually you know they're participating so but my point is this um it's like well that's what
00:46:45.900 we should get back to let's get this constitution let's constitution even harder and um the founders
00:46:52.640 i mean adam said like the constitution is wholly unfit for a people unless they're moral and
00:46:57.820 religious and and i look at like the people that we have now and i think like how did they do it
00:47:03.980 in america like because you could just trust your neighbors high trust society and all these kinds
00:47:08.260 of things and they could self-govern well they did it like to be honest historically speaking
00:47:13.660 they did it because america was birthed on on the heels of a thousand years of a christian monarch
00:47:20.760 so for a thousand you think about it like this like people don't want it here's another thing
00:47:24.820 that's not popular eugenics yeah okay now i'm not saying that we should force sterilize people
00:47:30.620 like there's there's a form of eugenics that's wicked it's inherently wrong there's different
00:47:35.400 levels of it but every religious sacred text whether it's the quran or the bible or like 0.87
00:47:41.520 actually does have a eugenics program so think of it like this like well that's what they want is
00:47:46.740 in the future they want us to all be one race and one sex that's part of the transgender movement
00:47:50.660 yeah it's this radical equality which is homogeneity they want everyone to be androgynous 0.98
00:47:54.980 the same just this this goop of humanity but look at look at the old testament um dietary restrictions
00:48:01.740 right so you can't eat this you can't eat that you can't eat this um in addition to that um it
00:48:08.220 restricts not not only what you eat but uh who you can marry somebody too closely related can't
00:48:13.480 marry him too distantly related can't marry him well to be fair though i don't think incest was
00:48:19.000 at the beginning but was there anybody in your opinion was was it just adam and eve in the garden
00:48:23.040 or is there other people outside of the garden i think it was just adam and eve yeah i think
00:48:26.680 everyone what about cain and abel is just cain and abel what when can oh no by the time of cain
00:48:31.480 and abel in terms of cain murdering his brother yeah i think at that point because the bible
00:48:35.860 doesn't give us a time date so that they could have been for all we know uh because adam lived
00:48:40.720 to be like well over 900 years old so cain could have been 400 years old i'm not saying he was
00:48:45.760 don't quote me on this but my point is cain and abel could have been in their 300s and adam and
00:48:51.080 eve could have had you know a 150 more kids who then had kids who had like so there could have
00:48:57.300 literally been a thousand people alive at the time because cain says that in genesis 4 after
00:49:01.600 he kills his brother god puts his mark on cain because he says the uh so they don't kill him
00:49:06.080 they don't get well who's they exactly that's what they do so i'm with you yeah and that's
00:49:09.920 where people are like so there must have been other people but i'm i'm a bible guy and and i
00:49:15.580 the bible i think the bible plainly teaches that everyone descended from adam and eve so i think
00:49:20.300 there could be a they but still it's connected yeah connected but and we talked about this a
00:49:25.720 little bit we didn't get into it you know jesus kept on talking about the rapture the rapture
00:49:29.160 company you don't think it's possible that we're living in a post-rapture world oh i think we so
00:49:34.520 a lot of those rapture texts i think we are um i i think a lot of those that's what i feel like
00:49:39.260 yeah and and i think by well you look at gobekli tepe that's that's one thing and that's one of
00:49:44.360 the oldest monasteries in the world it's like 13 000 years so it doesn't even follow the timeline
00:49:48.660 that they give us so somewhere the numbers are screwed up if yeah if it's 13 000 or whatever
00:49:54.180 i don't know i'm just saying they so they say i think it's ancient for sure um i think there
00:49:59.360 are ancient temples and things like that i wouldn't date them at 13 000 years but i would
00:50:02.580 say that they're probably six seven eight thousand years old and uh incredible engineering and running
00:50:07.880 water and plumbing and some of these things we talked about this even batteries you know like
00:50:12.620 the idea that the civilization so i'm on board for all that nephilim but of course but the idea 0.91
00:50:17.400 that the civilizations before us were dumber than us today yeah that makes me sick it's like that's 0.77
00:50:21.500 just arrogant it's just unbridled arrogance but my point is that um yes i think like i i think that 0.98
00:50:27.860 um you know that that you know there are ancient things um and you know the the world you know
00:50:34.520 being old but i don't think it's the dates and the the timeline that you know secular
00:50:39.660 darwinian scientists no way provide for us i think that i think that all that is just a ploy to to 0.69
00:50:46.340 get rid of the existence of god and they're like we know like people aren't stupid you know at least 0.57
00:50:50.640 they're not that stupid and so we can't just say hey everything just by action happened yesterday 0.93
00:50:54.660 but maybe if we say billions of years then they'll believe it like the billions of years is just a 0.99
00:51:01.600 way of that's how they're replacing god i know that's how they've replaced god with time they
00:51:06.180 literally exactly right that's that everything came from nothing because of time that's literally
00:51:10.140 a biogenesis and billions of years is how we have which doesn't even make sense it doesn't matter
00:51:14.680 how much time you could have infinity time nothing cannot produce something like we know this
00:51:20.680 logically so it's like the big bang you know a speck of okay where the speck of dust come from
00:51:25.400 you know like no matter how you slice you know i do debate some christians that believe that god
00:51:29.540 did the big bang and that you know yeah as a means i think those christians are wrong for the record
00:51:34.240 but but even those christians um you know that would be you know like your uh theistic evolution
00:51:40.060 you know like but they they still recognize like there has to be a divine creator to start it if
00:51:45.820 it has somebody had to press play you know somebody had i mean it's just there's no way that this is
00:51:50.400 just some sort of cosmic accident and that that goes to the conspiracy thing it's like i think
00:51:54.220 that was kind of one of my favorite conspiracies the idea of evolution and i watched hundreds of
00:51:58.680 hours of documentaries about evolution and how dumb that is you know the idea that a fish just
00:52:03.340 grew feet and then you know we became a monkey there's still monkeys here with us so i don't 0.52
00:52:07.540 I don't know what happened to them. Yeah. And we don't have any transitional species like they,
00:52:12.880 you know, you think you'd have humans with weird arms and, you know, and. Did you hear about the 0.97
00:52:17.260 chimpanzees? Like there's the brown ones and the black ones. And there was like a civil war and 1.00
00:52:22.380 they were fighting. Oh yeah. In Africa. Yeah. Yeah. I tweeted out, I was like, they're going
00:52:27.440 to find some albino chimps and say that it was their fault. Yeah. Exactly. Right. Yeah. But 1.00
00:52:32.820 there's also the white chimps, the white chimps, it's their fault. They're going to have, they're 1.00
00:52:36.200 gonna have menorahs or yarmulkes on white chimps with tiny hats no but um but going back real quick
00:52:42.440 the rapture that was really interesting that you mentioned that so just to explain like where i'm
00:52:46.860 coming from so i i think that there's a lot of new testament not all of them but a lot of new
00:52:50.860 testament passages that um that speak of a future imminent event like even the book of revelation
00:52:57.200 it starts and says uh in chapter one it says these things which are soon to come to pass and i don't
00:53:02.940 know about you but like 2 000 years doesn't feel soon no you know and so it's it's talking about
00:53:07.060 this is going to happen that's going to happen jesus was constantly talking about he was so
00:53:10.560 matthew chapter 24 jesus is the uh olivet discourse the temple mount he's like walking
00:53:15.920 past the temple with his disciples and he makes this incredible prophecy he says like i tell you
00:53:20.480 the truth not one stone will stand on another and the romans when they sacked you know uh emperor
00:53:25.120 titus and they sacked jerusalem uh because it was inlaid in the stones with gold they actually to
00:53:29.980 get the gold and extract it. They actually had to take each stone off of another. So it's like
00:53:35.000 perfect fulfillment to what Jesus said. But here's the deal. It wasn't thousands of years later. It
00:53:39.940 was 40 years later. And in that same discourse, Matthew 24, where Jesus says this, he talks about
00:53:45.300 one will be in the field, two will be in the field and one will be taken, two will be in bed and one
00:53:49.680 will be taken. And that's where you get a lot of, that's like the quintessential rapture text.
00:53:54.420 But he also says, I tell you the truth, this generation will not pass away until these
00:53:58.680 things come to pass. But the ones that be taken, you actually want to stay on earth though, right? 0.56
00:54:02.380 Yeah, exactly. The ones that are taken, that's actually the bad thing. Yeah, that's the bad
00:54:05.600 thing. Exactly. People have that misconstrued. You don't want to be taken. Exactly. So what I
00:54:09.840 think, my rapture theology is that I don't think there's a rapture in our future. I think that
00:54:17.620 there was in the destruction of Jerusalem as a judgment from God that happened in 80-70,
00:54:23.900 that happened just like Jesus said.
00:54:26.160 So it would have been around 80, 30 to 80, 33 or so
00:54:29.300 that Jesus is giving this sermon that he says,
00:54:32.720 I tell you the truth, this generation will not pass away
00:54:35.600 until these things come to pass.
00:54:37.400 I think he was being literal, not metaphorical,
00:54:39.400 not just this type of generation,
00:54:40.760 but these people listening to my words right now,
00:54:43.340 some of you will die, but in general,
00:54:44.940 you guys will still be around.
00:54:46.860 You'll be old, you'll be elderly,
00:54:48.220 but you will see in your lifetime, in your generation,
00:54:51.420 the fulfillment to these things,
00:54:52.620 which included the temple being destroyed, but also two in the field, two in the bed, one taken.
00:54:57.760 And I think it was talking about the destruction of Jerusalem as God's judgment for Israel rejecting their Messiah and crucifying him.
00:55:07.880 And so my point is, I think that a lot of the things that we read in the Bible is this is going to happen next Thursday.
00:55:13.600 Jesus is going to come back or, you know, in 2030, you know, that'll be the rapture.
00:55:20.360 i i think we're reading texts that were in their future but long in our past yeah that are actually
00:55:26.040 now i believe that there still is in our future a full you know a final culmination to history
00:55:31.800 um and a final uh physical return of christ to judge both the living and the dead the apostles
00:55:36.740 creed nicene but we don't know at that time but we don't but that could be 500 5 000 years from
00:55:41.000 now and and here's the deal it's like there's a sense in which jesus tells the parable of like
00:55:44.960 faithful servant who you do not know the time or the hour that the master returns. So you better
00:55:52.040 be busy about his work, be on your best behavior, be a good servant. So there's a sense in which
00:55:56.800 Jesus himself says, we should live as though he's coming back tomorrow. There's also a sense in
00:56:02.440 which you look at Christendom in Europe and early America, some of these cathedrals took 500 years
00:56:11.000 to build and how did they build it without power tools but but one thing i want to say was but they
00:56:16.400 had a long-term mindset they were thinking about we don't think about our great great grandchildren
00:56:21.700 but maybe we should you know yeah i mean you know going to what's happening today though and you 0.93
00:56:28.040 look at iran and i do believe because i see all these israel firsters that want us to nuke iran
00:56:34.320 and in my mind i'm like there's actually a lot of persians that are supporting israel which i think
00:56:38.020 kind of, you know, a huge contradiction, but I do believe that what is happening now, because
00:56:43.840 you see these videos of these rabbis talking to Benjamin Netanyahu, and they're like, hurry 0.86
00:56:48.320 up, hurry up, I think that they want that all Aksa Mosque to get destroyed, you know,
00:56:53.080 in a retaliatory strike, because we strike Iran, because they do believe that that will 1.00
00:56:57.460 bring their Messiah.
00:56:59.340 But I also think, I know Ben Shapiro says he hates Jesus, I think there's a lot of Jews
00:57:04.000 actually, when they're called Jews for Jesus, that actually think Jesus was the Messiah.
00:57:08.800 So, you know, I know that's probably maybe a small portion.
00:57:11.700 Well, there are Messianic Jews. 0.95
00:57:13.240 Yeah, exactly.
00:57:14.020 And so, I don't know.
00:57:15.360 I think what's happening today is they're trying to speed things up because they want
00:57:18.860 that, those end times, to happen as soon as possible.
00:57:22.160 Yeah, it's eschatological.
00:57:23.020 Yeah, it's deeply religious.
00:57:24.180 It's not just geopolitics.
00:57:25.500 No, this is not.
00:57:26.500 It's deeply religious.
00:57:28.540 Like, part of growing up is realizing that the world is run by demons.
00:57:33.000 Yeah.
00:57:33.300 Like, that are elites, not just people in Israel, but a bunch of people in D.C., I promise you, are communing with demons.
00:57:44.020 You know, people want to joke, and they're going to watch this and think we're crazy, but you have people like, did you ever look into Jimmy Savile?
00:57:50.600 Yeah, a little bit.
00:57:51.160 But I'm saying, there are people that, and I know this goes against Christ, but I do think people can do demonic rituals and summon some stuff and maybe summon success.
00:58:01.600 Maybe they do a ritual for money.
00:58:03.300 Yeah. And you can talk to these people and they'll, maybe they, you traded something off in life,
00:58:08.520 they kill your parents or whatever the trade-off is, but you can do rituals and things will happen.
00:58:13.960 I think that that is real. Absolutely. Yeah. So I, the spiritual realm is real. The physical realm 0.97
00:58:20.120 is also real. The physical world matters. We shouldn't pretend that it doesn't at all,
00:58:24.280 but we shouldn't be materialist that we pretend as though the world is just stuff.
00:58:27.780 I think materialism is one of the biggest plagues in society.
00:58:30.020 i mean that's it's a lie and not only is it like cunning and and and deceitful but it's also just
00:58:36.760 gross just living for stuff you know it's just pure you'll never be satisfied and i'm not you
00:58:42.280 don't i'm not a role model don't take my advice but you know you're never gonna have the newest
00:58:45.820 stuff you're never gonna have the biggest house and that doesn't mean you shouldn't try to be
00:58:48.720 successful and have a good life but the idea that your self-worth is tied into an inanimate object
00:58:54.120 is one of the most evil lies that people live under yes like i gotta have the newest car i got
00:58:59.720 nobody cares as a matter of fact people probably dislike you more when you have the newest car
00:59:03.160 or the newest thing it probably causes uh more social stigma so materialism is is a huge thing 0.93
00:59:10.420 that every single company wants us to buy their new crap and slop it like that is when it comes
00:59:16.260 to conspiracies that is one of the biggest conspiracies is that materialism is one of the 0.93
00:59:20.280 i think that is one of the worst things that's happening in society almost as bad as you know
00:59:25.940 degenerate porn and and i mean i think you know porn is worse but that i think they're on the
00:59:30.620 same level yeah so all that being said i i feel like right-wing media and just media in general 0.80
00:59:36.280 it's dying though right-wing media and even left-wing media cnn's dying msn uh now or
00:59:42.280 whatever they had to change their name it's all it's all a dinosaur because it's right now it's
00:59:46.800 just this um it's like a king of the hill it's it's like a battle royale for it's a um it's a
00:59:55.040 an attention economy it is it's just i'm an expert in that yeah flashing lights whatever's you know
01:00:01.480 30 seconds it's not about but now we're competing with ai for the attention and and we're not gonna
01:00:06.920 be able to beat ai because they could you and i are sitting here talking for hours on a podcast
01:00:10.320 and yes some of these clips will get a lot of attention but they can make an ai fruit video
01:00:13.480 now that's the big thing of like two bananas right cheating on each other right and it's getting
01:00:17.200 billions not even millions it's getting a thousand million it's getting billions of views you're
01:00:21.480 like well how can i compete with this yeah you can't and so my point is that um a lot of the old
01:00:30.000 american ideals it's you know like there was a there was a time where i would have said i was
01:00:36.600 a conservative then there was a time it's like i'm a traditionalist you know i don't want to
01:00:40.240 conserve the status quo i want to get back to the roots but then there's also something to be said
01:00:45.100 for um you you have to move forward the only way out is through um and and whatever whatever when
01:00:54.560 we come out on the other side whatever that looks like um i i can't pretend to be able to predict
01:01:00.580 predict everything but at the same time i think there are some basic principles that are inevitable
01:01:05.820 and one of them is going to be less freedom um we yes one thing that we we did in the west is we
01:01:14.160 we exalted liberty above virtue and uh freedom just for the sake of freedom is not virtuous
01:01:21.860 it's it's not commendable um so like just because we can doesn't mean we should like we have so like
01:01:29.100 even when i think of freedom of speech like if a leftist is bringing me before a judge i'm going
01:01:34.080 to appeal to the first you know amendment all day long in the constitution um but that's because i
01:01:39.160 know that what i'm saying is right and i know that they're wicked but in theory that's what
01:01:43.940 i'll do in practice but in theory um i don't think you should be able to say whatever you want
01:01:48.560 you don't i don't really i don't see with speech i think we should be able to say whatever we want
01:01:54.180 yeah but in terms of words public but public speech on public platforms um like when we think
01:02:02.660 about policies we have to think about what they ultimately do like the end of free speech is not
01:02:08.100 um well free speech is already taken if you if you say i love palestine on college campus you
01:02:12.320 can get of course yeah so it's already not being practiced but let's just say theoretically that
01:02:16.800 it was um the logical end of capitalism is only fans the logical end of freedom of speech is the
01:02:23.740 two banana ai slot video cheating on each other yeah like that's what it leads to it leads to
01:02:29.620 well i'm allowed to do this and i'm just but but but it's not helpful it doesn't matter it's my
01:02:35.460 right it's my freedom it's my liberty um and everyone's just going to get like more and more 0.93
01:02:41.060 retarded yeah it's kind of like how i don't i don't think porn is protected free speech i think 0.97
01:02:46.200 i think because you know what i and i've done this thing where i don't i stopped looking at porn 0.94
01:02:50.220 but you know i look at instagram and that's basically softcore porn you know what i mean
01:02:53.480 and i'll be honest i look at instagram i mean you know i i you know we have an instagram account we
01:02:58.280 just started a couple months ago so we're not big it's just like little reels and clips that we'll
01:03:02.000 do like maybe 10 000 followers but i i have other guys on my team do it i don't have yeah i don't
01:03:08.580 get on instagram but like i said is is i don't necessarily think girls shouldn't be able to post
01:03:13.140 a bikini picture but i don't think that we should just be able to have hardcore sex and right and
01:03:17.080 because you know also that desensitizes us to when we have normal sex you know and then and so that's 0.96
01:03:23.200 why i think it's really bad and that's why it destroys marriages it destroys and it is i hate
01:03:27.780 to be which is cruel to it is cheating i think looking at porn is cheating you know i don't think 0.50
01:03:31.960 like i said i keep bringing up instagram i don't think if you look at something on instagram it's
01:03:35.760 necessarily cheating but if you're looking at porn and you're masturbating to porn i think that that
01:03:39.500 is cheating yes i agree so the point is like like capitalism lifted the word i i don't want to throw
01:03:47.260 out the baby with the bathwater capitalism lifted the world out of abject poverty um you can look
01:03:53.080 i mean it's it's a fact uh people being able to own their labor and be able to you know if
01:03:59.440 somebody's willing to to purchase it at this price and like there there was a lot of good
01:04:04.220 and i'm still a capitalist in in the foundational sense of like private property and but see this
01:04:10.820 is my problem is i'm a capitalist but we have a lot of stuff that is government subsidized our
01:04:15.280 entire military exactly so we just need to reallocate the subsidization of certain industries
01:04:20.380 like people get mad at me because i think i don't think we should have necessarily free health care
01:04:25.500 because then we'll be like canada and they'll just be encouraging you to do the medically
01:04:28.960 assisted suicide but if we're going to subsidize anything we should subsidize health care you know
01:04:33.360 i'm saying you know instead of more military i i just feel like we can have some sort of
01:04:39.240 leftist save people instead of bomb people exactly right i think that would just be common sense but
01:04:44.120 that's not how it works so my point is that like you look at capitalism and it did a lot of good
01:04:49.740 but it's the year of our lord 2026 and and and that's where i've realized like at first it was
01:04:55.560 like we must return you know as the kids say like we must return spelled with a v you know like
01:05:00.120 we're gonna we're going back um and now i'm like no we but we can't the genie's out of the bottle
01:05:05.560 we can't go back all we can do is go forward and and seek to honor the lord and be a virtuous
01:05:10.320 people um in in the present not in the past we can't just larp and pretend and so it's like so
01:05:17.080 uh cap you know you point back you're like capitalism saved the world and it's like yeah
01:05:20.860 um but now it's killing it now it's killing it and so and that doesn't mean that like so we're
01:05:25.640 we're communists i hate communists yeah i'm not a communism has destroyed millions and millions
01:05:29.960 and millions but but we're um it can't just be crony capitalism it's going to here's the deal
01:05:34.840 it's going to have to be governed um only only fans is a great capitalistic business model yeah
01:05:41.240 infinitely scalable uh you don't have to pay anybody like i mean the barriers entry none
01:05:46.960 only fans is is peak capitalism it's beautiful capitalism absolutely beautiful but it's a plague
01:05:53.620 on society but it's a plague on society so but here's the deal who's going to do there's only
01:05:58.460 one entity in society that has a god divine given um monopoly on coercion on violence
01:06:05.660 and it's the state it's the government the government is the only the only god sanctioned
01:06:11.500 entity that is allowed to bear the sword. And Romans 13 says that the government, the civil
01:06:17.800 magistrate does not bear the sword in vain. He is God's avenger to deal out justice, vengeance
01:06:23.500 on the wrongdoer. And he is to do two things, to praise the good, so like a reward for the
01:06:31.300 righteous, and to punish the wicked. So then the question is, okay, but where does wickedness
01:06:37.460 exist is a wickedness in markets okay then they can't be completely free like the right nick has
01:06:43.960 said this he's right the right is going to have to bend on the free market there are elements of
01:06:50.260 the free market and and global trade that are destroying us geopolitically it's because we're
01:06:55.580 also intertwined economically he is right though because i look at these the farmers you know now
01:07:00.940 you can't even be a small family farm you know now it's all monsanto you have to buy the seeds
01:07:06.120 and buy the same soil from them so we really do need to actually totally recalibrate everything
01:07:11.260 and and when we say we the only people who can do that is the government the government is going to
01:07:15.820 have to put sanctions on like does it need to fail though before it can be built back up maybe
01:07:19.960 you know that's kind of where i'm like does it need to totally collapse it might and and if
01:07:24.240 that's the case then that's a descriptive but not prescriptive i'm not an accelerationist yeah so
01:07:29.020 it i i'm willing to be honest enough to say it might actually have to collapse but i'm not going
01:07:34.000 that's a description or a prediction in that case future description uh but i wouldn't be
01:07:38.860 prescriptive and saying and therefore we as should speed it up and should speed it up and and i'm not
01:07:44.940 an accelerationist either i but i do kind of just see the writing on the wall i kind of see it too
01:07:50.700 and so i'm like we're heading in a not great direction and it's like um you think oh the
01:07:56.820 government's too big to fail i don't think so i think it can fail and i think it probably will
01:08:00.340 yeah rome was pretty big it was way bigger and and failed and it failed so but my point is it
01:08:06.380 like if if we're gonna have any so maybe it breaks before it's rebuilt i i don't know but
01:08:11.680 in terms of the end of what it will need to be i feel like it has to be um it we can't see small
01:08:19.320 government as being synonymous with good government because whatever the government's
01:08:23.400 going to look like in it's not the past anymore it's not a bunch of farmers yeah like we don't
01:08:29.340 have a country of two million white folk yeah you know who who are farmers doing agriculture 0.56
01:08:34.820 we have a country of 350 million people um who from all over the world a lot of them need to go
01:08:41.740 back but but still even if a lot go back we still have different languages different peoples different
01:08:48.400 this different that and then we have technology and ai slop and anthropic that who knows if it's
01:08:53.880 going to destroy the world or what like all these different things and so i can't foresee any
01:08:59.060 scenario with all those things and all the potential for evil whereas small government
01:09:04.740 yeah well i so the only hope is it's going to have to be righteous government well yeah you're
01:09:11.400 exactly right we do need a righteous government our government is not righteous whatsoever it's
01:09:14.720 very immoral i think it's the opposite of moral because you know that everybody in capitol hill
01:09:18.320 as soon as they get elected to their position they don't really care about the people you know
01:09:21.660 And that's the other illusion that we have.
01:09:23.740 It's right versus left.
01:09:24.500 It's all a uniparty.
01:09:25.660 There's a few good politicians up there that are willing to speak out against it.
01:09:29.220 But then they're the ones that are attacked.
01:09:30.560 Thomas Massey, perfect example.
01:09:32.380 Marjorie Taylor Greene.
01:09:32.980 Marjorie Taylor Greene, even Lauren Boeber.
01:09:34.860 But she colors within the lines a little more.
01:09:36.920 But she's actually a grandmother. 1.00
01:09:40.020 And she's bold and gets a lot of kickbacks. 0.92
01:09:44.180 So sometimes she's not too, too bold. 0.73
01:09:46.320 I think she's just playing the political game.
01:09:48.000 so my point is if we know that the game is rigged against us and the whole point of being a politician
01:09:53.260 is basically fundraising to keep your position then they don't care about us so the people in
01:09:57.640 power it's just so not it's just not righteous we don't have any righteous it's not and part of that
01:10:02.780 is the system um it's it's not it's not a system that incentivizes righteous civil rulers well
01:10:10.560 it's like machiavelli democracy incentivizes deceit and and i was reading about machiavelli
01:10:18.200 and he did say that most people are good but the people in power are not good because of what they
01:10:22.700 had to do to get there so we know that people in power at some point probably had to do something
01:10:27.520 probably screw somebody over just step on somebody's head which to be fair that's why
01:10:31.880 like monarchies like and i i know that like there there's you know it's pick your poison
01:10:38.280 there are weaknesses on both sides so i'm not sitting here saying like the grass was perfectly
01:10:42.480 greener um but monarchy's like the divine right to power there's no elections there's no temptation
01:10:49.160 for the politician to lie to the people in order to win his campaign so that he could no it's like
01:10:54.200 um you were born to rule yeah but then what is it then the people rise up like marie antoinette
01:11:00.080 let them eat cake uh you know it's so you know people don't like there are problems over there
01:11:05.900 too yeah but my point i know you said that but my point is just to say that like we thought that we
01:11:10.740 could we thought monarchy that's the problem and you know divine rights of kings that's the problem
01:11:15.780 but joel we went and started a whole country because we wanted to be taxed and now we pay
01:11:19.800 exactly exactly so really we probably did have it kind of correct and then it just got totally
01:11:26.200 screwed up if the rule led you to here then what good was the rule you know like that's that's and
01:11:30.580 that's how i feel like if democracy led you to here then what good was democracy and so that
01:11:36.140 like that's where i'm at now where i'm like it's it's not it's not small versus big and and it's
01:11:42.400 not our sacred democracy versus monica it's just it's it's going to have to be big it's going to
01:11:48.560 have to be powerful um it's probably going to have elements of multiple you know some democratic
01:11:52.920 elements some aristocracy republican air uh like a republic air um elements and then probably some
01:11:59.460 some kingly elements we'll never call it that in america because america hates kings you know but
01:12:04.180 no kings yeah but but but it will be in function kingly um that's that's trump at his best by the
01:12:10.900 way yeah the bet like my i mean my my great um disappointment with trump is that he's not behaving
01:12:16.920 more like a king for the good of yeah like i i going out to the people that we know screwed us
01:12:23.260 over he's actually just protecting them but but my point is that like whatever whatever it will be in
01:12:28.800 the future, if it's good, if it has even a chance of being good, it's not going to be just going
01:12:35.260 back. We can't go back. The world is different. We had things that worked for the people of that
01:12:42.200 time. Those people no longer exist. We don't have an aristocracy of, I mean, we do, but where all
01:12:50.760 the people are highly educated and responsible and trusting and homogenous and religious and
01:12:58.780 christian and like so yeah so like it doesn't work anymore um and you know this goes against
01:13:05.580 everything that we've talked about in this podcast because we want people to listen to it but i do
01:13:09.180 really think that if i had to give advice and i if i followed all my own advice i'd be 10 times as
01:13:14.660 successful but what we're chasing is we're worrying about things that we can't control and at the end
01:13:20.040 of the day what is really the goal it's can being content and what makes you content you having a
01:13:24.860 you know I don't think we are chasing contentment and for some people that's a
01:13:29.580 lot of money or you know for some people it's a family and we are constantly
01:13:33.380 letting other things that we can't control kind of dictate our happiness
01:13:38.360 yes and so I think that we should now maybe that sounds we were new age but
01:13:41.860 we should almost focus on trying to be happy in our everyday lives on the
01:13:45.440 things we can't control and not letting all these outside influences manipulate
01:13:49.900 us into feeling how they want us to feel sad scared happy and the true thing that makes you
01:13:57.220 happy is like a family or whatever it is different things make different people happy but we're not
01:14:01.720 really chasing that we're kind of we're all going to college going to be in debt we're all debt
01:14:07.280 slaves working just to make ends meet and that's not happiness right and so you're kind of right
01:14:12.000 that's part of the capitalistic that's a side effect of capitalism is that now you have to
01:14:16.080 have a two-parent household with both parents working in order to support your family and so
01:14:20.480 it's really it's it's kind of a side effect that now we're not chasing contentment we're basically
01:14:26.720 just trying to watch movies watch porn work a little bit to pay our bills and we're we're slaves
01:14:34.060 we're slaves yeah well thanks for coming on the show it's not the brightest point to end on but 0.97
01:14:41.520 But I think we had some white girls in there along the way. 0.92
01:14:44.500 We can break free from the change, though. 0.99
01:14:46.220 We can break free from the change.
01:14:47.660 And that doesn't mean you don't have to work a job or try to be successful.
01:14:50.400 But I guess we put so much of our self-worth into the opinions of strangers.
01:14:56.140 Right.
01:14:56.340 And we need to stop worrying about that.
01:14:57.980 And if we're more unapologetically ourselves, I know that worked out for me.
01:15:00.920 I think that is really working out for you.
01:15:02.800 And I would encourage people to be more unapologetically themselves.
01:15:05.900 And that doesn't mean be degenerate, but that if you are conservative, be outspoken.
01:15:09.920 And if you're a Christian, definitely be outspoken because you know that.
01:15:14.120 There's a social stigma surrounding being, you know, saying that you love Jesus Christ.
01:15:19.720 You know, some people are like, oh, you're weird. 1.00
01:15:21.160 You're stupid. 1.00
01:15:21.720 Don't you know Jesus is fake? 1.00
01:15:23.100 You know, and so just be unapologetically yourself and worry about the things you can't control,
01:15:28.320 even though Joel and I have talked about a lot of stuff that we can't control.
01:15:30.960 But we are just trying to, I guess, talk about the elephant in the room and not letting that elephant step on our head.
01:15:37.160 Yes.
01:15:37.840 Yeah.
01:15:38.000 be authentic be honest be courageous and be content yeah and and that is another thing is that
01:15:44.620 we live in a fake world and people act fake and there's times where i have to act fake i'm sure
01:15:50.240 even you you know do you have to kind of act fake you don't want to hurt people's feelings
01:15:54.260 but we should be more genuine that that is that is always the best recipe for success as much as
01:15:59.020 we can yeah yeah all right thanks for coming on the show thank you appreciate it
01:16:08.000 We'll be right back.