The NXR Podcast - THE SPECIAL - From Essential Oils To Essentially Cancelled ｜ The Evolution of JP Sears

00:00:00.000 Men with low testosterone are much more apt to do people-pleasing behaviors at the expense of violating what they believe is to be true.

00:00:10.680 Whereas a man with ideal levels of testosterone statistically is far more prevalent to do and say what he believes to be right. 0.95

00:00:22.700 so to your point yes during covid calling out the wacky science and the stupid mandates and all the 0.91

00:00:31.760 tyranny i saw well all of that is a symptom the symptom is a lack of real masculinity and real 0.96

00:00:41.200 masculinity it ain't just physical this is just one part of a five-part series with myself and

00:00:47.340 J.P. Sears. In this series, we're going to be discussing everything from how J.P. Sears became

00:00:52.940 a Christian, his personal testimony, why comedy is inherently transgressive. We'll also be talking

00:00:58.600 about MAGA, Israel, and what the future of politics here in America holds after Trump.

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00:01:40.900 radical christian nationalist pastor joel webin joel webin i'm going to talk about joel webin

00:01:49.000 joel webin is an accident

00:01:51.320 all right here we are this is episode one so we're doing a five-part series you've been

00:02:14.540 super gracious with your time which thank you by the way appreciate that pleasure to be here

00:02:18.860 brother yeah so i just i want to know a little bit about the real jp sears because i i'll speak

00:02:24.720 for myself but i think there's a lot of listeners that will be able to resonate with this it's been

00:02:30.040 almost 10 years now i haven't watched every single video but off and on you know sporadically

00:02:35.980 you pop up in my news feed and i've been tuning in at least as early as 2016 17 and i remember

00:02:44.760 in the early days it was like you know you were you were making fun of essential oils or just the

00:02:50.940 the tree hugging hippies and then 2020 like you became it seemed like more uh politically focused

00:02:58.080 it wasn't just culture but it was the political element against the branch covidians and all the

00:03:03.500 madness with covid and uh and then you know 2024 it was like okay um the last four years under

00:03:11.200 biden have been terrible and so it was you know pumping towards we got to get trump in and then

00:03:17.340 now you know fast forward another year or so year and a half and it's like you know what um trump

00:03:23.840 didn't really drain the swamp he kind of became the swamp in many ways and so i i feel like it's

00:03:30.320 funny because other guys will say well you you changed or this guy he used to be funny um you

00:03:36.060 know but he's uh he's changed and and he's inconsistent whereas i see it as like consistency

00:03:41.340 all along all along you've kind of just been willing to um to oppose whatever the major dogma

00:03:50.420 was at the time and uh and without playing teams without being biased like i'm on this team no

00:03:57.140 matter what you know no new wars um you know and then you're like um no comma new wars you know

00:04:04.400 that's what he meant you know like you haven't done that you know you you haven't pretended like

00:04:09.500 lindsey graham sucks but now he's really cool yeah he's always been cool exactly so i month

00:04:14.780 exactly so i appreciate your what others would would accuse you as inconsistency i think is 0.96

00:04:21.680 truly consistency but i just wanted to hear behind the scenes inside baseball what what has been the

00:04:29.700 guiding force with this cultural political evolution of J.P. Sears yeah the the guiding force for what

00:04:37.960 I speak on what I do comedy man when I hear you lay it out it's like damn I have been across the 0.97

00:04:45.600 map like as you have oils making fun of gluten and now Zionist Israel is trying to kill us all 0.65

00:04:51.320 occupy our government it's like wow that's a long way I can tell you what has not been the guiding

00:04:59.040 force. I imagine an outside observer, you look at what I do, what I speak on and be like, well,

00:05:05.640 it's like a schizophrenic maniac, just like trying to find what can be popular to talk about at the

00:05:12.220 time. And by the way, if that's how a comedian does it, there is nothing wrong with that. It's

00:05:18.780 actually, I think a good service. That's definitely not how I do it. What I talk about, it's what

00:05:26.540 matters most to me. And it also follows my personal journey as a man, because back in

00:05:34.480 2016, I'm talking about health trends in new age culture. And I was very much of that world. I

00:05:41.280 valued a decent amount of it, but I was like, well, this is my world. Like I'm going to make

00:05:46.820 fun of this stuff and our egotistical nature that like victimizes ourselves about gluten intolerance.

00:05:54.340 and then we get significance from that. But when I look back to those early days, even though that's

00:06:00.300 what mattered, I definitely wasn't a whole man. I didn't know my values. I didn't really know my

00:06:08.280 place in life, what I'm here for. And then over the past 10 years, I have matured as a man. I've

00:06:17.640 gotten more whole, more of my manhood has come online. I won't pretend to now be a perfect man

00:06:25.500 or the world's best man by any stretch. All I can say is I am much more of a man than I used to be.

00:06:34.220 And looking at the world through that discernment of the man I am, I see, well, here are some

00:06:43.200 things that matter to me. They used to not matter to me. I used to not know about it.

00:06:47.980 Right. And in fact, before 2020, I couldn't tell you the difference between a Democrat and a

00:06:53.860 Republican. I'd be like, well, Democrats are concerned about the environment. Republicans

00:06:59.700 want oil. Like, that's really all I could say. But when COVID happened, it was, I think,

00:07:09.040 certainly a curse on humanity plenty of literal crimes against humanity were inflicted and plenty

00:07:16.260 of that lies on the people it was primarily participation in these crimes against humanity

00:07:22.600 through obedience that's right so that's what gave it its power yeah because covid it wasn't

00:07:29.420 that the science changed it was that the political science changed covid all the restrictions of

00:07:34.680 COVID ended the exact moment that the American people as a whole said, I think we're done.

00:07:40.640 Yeah. The joke has always been on us. I think God's been up there laughing the whole time

00:07:46.260 because we can be down here whining about the corrupt, powerful establishment. Look at all

00:07:53.520 their weapons, these propaganda outlets, they're, you know, control our government, control militaries.

00:07:59.900 and God's up there laughing. It was like, you people have had the power this whole time.

00:08:05.300 Stand up to it.

00:08:05.920 When they have power over you, it's because you are handing them your power.

00:08:10.980 So I saw a lot of people doing that. And that woke something up inside of me,

00:08:15.520 like this desire to first, certainly not surrender my power, but to realize how much power I have

00:08:25.460 as a man, and three, to use that power for what I saw as good and beneficial and calling out wise

00:08:36.380 hypocrisy and corruption while standing for truth. So I like to say the COVID time, yes,

00:08:43.380 it was a curse and it was a significant blessing as well. It was. I'm not sure how you see it,

00:08:49.980 but I saw more people get stronger in those two or three initial years

00:08:55.920 than they had in the previous 30 years of their life.

00:08:59.420 That was true for me psychologically.

00:09:02.940 That's when my manhood really, like the warrior archetype

00:09:07.280 that is just castrated in society,

00:09:10.420 and men are encouraged to castrate themselves. 0.82

00:09:13.920 Look at your masculinity. 0.90

00:09:16.360 Now call that toxic. 1.00

00:09:17.700 right just castrate and then physical and psychological castration as well and but

00:09:24.840 feeling this manhood come online while becoming a father for the first time was a perfect storm for

00:09:32.400 me to realize something it not only it's a new thing that matters to me but it certainly matters

00:09:39.820 than the stuff i was doing comedy on before like i'm looking like this stuff matters like our

00:09:46.640 freedoms they matter so much this is this will have to do with the landscape that my sons will

00:09:53.660 live in that's right 40 years from now this really matters so because freedom became a political

00:10:02.220 issue in the u.s in 2020 first time i recognized it in my lifetime it's very hard to ignore right

00:10:10.940 but in that that blew my mind like freedom is a politically divided issue in the united states of

00:10:19.720 america and i saw well on the right they're the ones standing for freedom and the left are the

00:10:27.600 ones crusading against freedom all for your own benefit by the way of course in the name of safety

00:10:34.720 that's always kind of historically been the trade politically speaking is uh personal liberty for

00:10:40.520 public safety yeah because you're never unless there's some kind of looming threat um in order

00:10:47.720 to weave together this compelling narrative you're never going to get individuals to simply volunteer

00:10:53.320 their liberty hey um why don't you you know how you have a lot of personal liberty a lot of a lot

00:10:59.140 of freedoms why don't you just hand some of those over yeah like nobody's going to do that but if

00:11:03.660 you say if you hold on to those um sure you'll be free but you'll also be dead yeah um so what

00:11:10.560 what we can do is if you temporarily and it's always under the guise of temporary right it's

00:11:16.140 whatever what two weeks to slow the spread you know and turns into two years but if you temporarily

00:11:21.640 only temporarily um render unto caesar some of your personal liberties i will then be able to

00:11:29.180 ensure the public's safety. And once that's been established, then we'll give you back your

00:11:34.860 personal liberties. And that's always been the trade. But two things that you said that I think

00:11:41.780 are vital is, one, you said that it was a curse, and not that God cursed us, but that we cursed

00:11:48.300 ourselves by our own cowardice. Cowardice is its own kind of curse. And so we cursed ourselves by

00:11:53.720 giving in to all this tyranny. But you also said that, you know, the silver lining was that, you

00:12:00.360 know, it was a cursed, wrapped in blessing, that the Lord really used COVID to wake a lot of people

00:12:05.360 up. And the way I see it was, it was kind of like, like the left overplayed its hand. It got cocky.

00:12:12.280 That it's like they had been dialing up slowly over decades of, you know, the slow, steady

00:12:19.680 erosion of freedoms over a long period of time. And like the frog boiling in the pot of water and

00:12:27.280 it never jumps out, well, the way that that works, and you know this, is that the water has to be

00:12:32.400 heated up incrementally, slowly. And with COVID, it's kind of like they convinced themselves that

00:12:39.980 they now had the providential catalyst that would allow for them. It's like we've gone over five

00:12:47.000 decades from zero to seven on the dial out of 10. And it's probably going to take another 20 years

00:12:54.180 to get it all the way up to boiling point. But this catalyst of COVID will allow us to just go

00:13:00.380 from seven straight to 10. And that was the mercy, was that in doing so, the water temp changed

00:13:07.840 suddenly. And it was sudden enough and drastic enough to where the few nerve endings still left

00:13:14.680 and tacked on the frog, felt the temperature spike, and jumped out of the pot. Or at least

00:13:21.220 some of the frogs, and some of them just laid back and took it. But some of us jumped out of

00:13:25.260 the pot. So that's the first thing, the fact that this curse was also really, in many ways,

00:13:30.340 a mercy from the Lord. I think you're absolutely right. But the second thing that I noticed as

00:13:34.540 you were speaking that I appreciate, and I've noticed this from your videos, watching from a

00:13:38.380 distance, especially during that time period, you could have just leaned into making fun of the

00:13:44.020 science and you did but but that wasn't your big thrust that could have been the the um the end and

00:13:50.660 and the beginning the beginning and the end of it um but what you leaned into more than anything

00:13:55.660 else was not just making fun of the liberal scientist uh scientists or making fun of this

00:14:00.640 or that or the other um the big thing that i saw you doing in the 2020 era was leaning into

00:14:07.900 masculinity yeah um like the biggest like you could have just said um this is silly just on

00:14:14.020 the merits of the actual science tm and it was but but you took it as an opportunity to say the

00:14:21.740 underlining issue um undergrading all of it is that men are no longer men yeah that men have

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00:15:38.300 and i remember like the shirts you know like there was like uh you did like a campaign

00:15:44.920 correct me if i'm wrong but it was like are you going to be a sheep or are you going to be a lion

00:15:48.900 yeah remember right yeah well it actually took that thrust yeah shout out to sean whalen

00:15:54.560 lions not sheep is his company okay i had different shirts but i wore his shirts too

00:15:59.900 because i'm like this appeals yes and it's interesting uh in a frightening way when you

00:16:05.940 castrate the men you're also castrating the women in effect because men with masculinity

00:16:14.520 are supposed to be there to protect and represent the women and the children so if you cut up if a 0.99

00:16:22.640 man cuts his own balls off like a guy can sit there and be uh minor shouldn't do gender transition 0.99

00:16:28.560 surgery well you did it on yourself spiritually logically yes um yeah so when a guy allows 1.00

00:16:35.440 himself to be castrated he needs to realize now the woman is effectively castrated her strong

00:16:43.420 protector provider the warrior that she needs and the children needs is not there and there's a 0.90

00:16:51.960 a recent study I saw that compared men with optimal testosterone, excuse me, I still have

00:16:59.180 COVID. COVID is real, by the way. It compared men with optimal testosterone versus men with

00:17:04.980 low testosterone, and it was social behavior. Men with low testosterone are much more apt to do

00:17:12.400 people-pleasing behaviors at the expense of violating what they believe is to be true,

00:17:19.320 Whereas a man with ideal levels of testosterone statistically is far more prevalent to do and say what he believes to be right. 0.93

00:17:31.500 So to your point, yes, during COVID calling out the wacky science and the stupid mandates and all the tyranny, I saw, well, all of that is a symptom. 0.94

00:17:44.300 The symptom is a lack of real masculinity. 0.98

00:17:49.480 And real masculinity, it ain't just physical.

00:17:52.900 That's a part of it.

00:17:53.960 Right.

00:17:54.560 But real masculinity, there's that psychological, there's the warrior archetype.

00:18:00.920 There's very much a spiritual component.

00:18:03.820 So I just saw, well, this is all a big symptom, if you want to get to the root cause, of men not being strong, masculine.

00:18:14.300 And that core masculine testosterone trait, always doing what they believe is right.

00:18:22.160 That's right.

00:18:22.440 Obedience was the opposite of that. 0.99

00:18:24.320 If healthy masculinity was in place in 2020, the amount of compliance and obedience would have been far less.

00:18:33.960 and and by the way you also look at these wackos in power the bill gates is the klaus schwabs

00:18:43.540 the government officials the you know currently ted cruz plenty of them on the right now

00:18:49.900 those are weak men yes the reason why they're so hungry to have power over

00:18:56.460 other people is they don't have masculinity they don't have the power of their own 0.99

00:19:02.840 balls, metaphorically speaking. They are not good men. They are weak men. And the weaker a man is, 0.99

00:19:11.620 the more he'll often compensate to get power outside of himself. Not from God, not through

00:19:18.140 empowering his family, not by doing what's right, not by being mission-oriented, but by seeking

00:19:24.640 power and control outside of himself. That's not masculinity. That is a symptom of weak

00:19:32.280 masculinity so i saw both the tyranny and the obedience to tyranny to both be symptoms of

00:19:41.560 very weak masculinity in our country absolutely right i love how you said um how you linked it

00:19:49.120 to you know you didn't make it just physical but you also said that but that is a piece of it like

00:19:54.320 men with a certain testosterone level like that plenty of studies have been done that guy behaves

00:20:00.840 a different way like the like the shock um experiment where you know you you get someone

00:20:06.080 to keep every time they say uh push the button to shock this person behind the the one-way glass

00:20:11.120 you know and you're watching this person you're you're literally electrocuting them yeah or at

00:20:15.440 least you think so maybe it's a placebo whatever however they run the experiment but as far as you

00:20:19.620 know you're pushing a button that's causing immediate direct correlated pain in someone else

00:20:24.760 and you're just being compliant because you're being told to do it and men with lower testosterone

00:20:29.340 push the button women i think it's like 80 or 90 percentile um um they're they're pushing the

00:20:36.220 button every time they're told to do it uh whereas masculine men with higher testosterone

00:20:40.900 uh will say no no i'm not i'm not going to do that and so the point is like you're saying like

00:20:47.720 it's not just you know well how much does the person you know how much does this dude you know

00:20:51.940 bench um no there's there's a psychological masculinity spiritual masculinity mental

00:20:57.460 masculinity, emotional fortitude, masculinity, and the physical. But I like that you brought

00:21:03.040 testosterone into it, not to be brash, not to be overly truncated or simplistic, but there's a

00:21:13.380 ditch on the other side of the road. So I can speak as a Christian pastor. The last couple

00:21:19.380 decades, and I'm sure it's longer than that, but at least the last couple decades, one of the things

00:21:24.360 that i've noticed in the church world is pastors um talking about masculinity um in every conceivable

00:21:32.040 way except for anything that has to do with the physical yeah so it's like so you can be a bean

00:21:39.040 pole and um and struggle to lift the bar um but you can be just as man as anybody else by you know

00:21:48.140 your character and virtues and and it's not to say that there's nothing to character and virtue of

00:21:54.120 course there is. But if we really want to be Christian, I've, you know, I'm not the world's 0.74

00:22:00.600 greatest theologian by a long shot, but I've studied enough of theology to know some of the

00:22:05.180 ancient, most foundational heresies that were combated, like in 1 John, for instance, in the

00:22:11.700 New Testament. One of the groups of heretics that was most prevalent in the early first century

00:22:17.700 church were the Gnostics. And the Gnostics were known for saying that the spiritual is not just

00:22:24.080 important, because the Bible, of course, would affirm that, but they would say that the spiritual

00:22:29.000 is the only thing of value and importance, and the physical is of no regard, not just less regard,

00:22:36.880 but no regard and if anything the physical is um is is almost it's almost like um irredeemable

00:22:47.320 it's it's um it's it's not just of no value it's a hindrance and it and it can't be changed in any

00:22:55.000 positive way so the Gnostics viewed like the soul as as the actual person was is historic Christian

00:23:02.860 doctrine teaches that we are not souls that have a body. We're not just a soul that happens to have

00:23:11.040 a body as an accidental characteristic. And we're not just bodies that happen to have a soul. We are

00:23:17.680 in souled bodies or embodied souls is probably the better way to put it. So what is a human being?

00:23:24.540 A human being from a Christian perspective is an embodied soul, which is why Christian doctrine

00:23:29.340 teaches that to be absent of the body the moment that you die is to be present with the Lord

00:23:34.700 spiritually but in the final culmination at the end of the age when Christ returns there actually

00:23:40.980 is going to be a resurrection of the body and so our bodies that were buried or lost at sea and

00:23:46.580 eaten by fish you know and particles spread across the whole known you know planet for a thousand

00:23:52.120 years I don't know how he's going to do it but he's God and and I've been reliably informed he

00:23:55.900 can do all things. But when he returns, he's going to resurrect our bodies. And this isn't

00:24:01.620 just a spiritual statement. Our soul, which upon death, if a person's a Christian, their soul is 0.92

00:24:07.020 present with the Lord in heaven. But eventually, at the end of the age, Christ returns and resurrects

00:24:12.140 the body, and the soul will then be rejoined, reunited with a now resurrected body that's

00:24:17.360 never tired, never hungry, never in pain, and never given to death ever again or decay.

00:24:22.680 But the reason that matters is because although if Christ tarries in his return, it may be a

00:24:30.320 thousand-year period of a person who dies today and is with the Lord spiritually but whose body

00:24:36.880 is in the grave. But the eons and eons eternal forever existence of a human being with the Lord

00:24:44.720 will not merely be a spiritual existence but will be a spiritual and physical existence because we

00:24:51.640 are embodied souls. We are physical beings. And so all that to say, the point is that to only focus

00:25:01.960 on the spiritual, as important as spiritual matters are, is to neglect a piece, a significant

00:25:10.680 piece of how God made us to be. If God wanted to make us just floating spirits on clouds,

00:25:18.220 he could have done that but he didn't he made us physical and spiritual creatures and so to say

00:25:25.520 that i'm going to train my mind and i'm going to um i'm going to esteem virtue and and um and i'm

00:25:34.240 going to train myself in character and mental fortitude and psychological fortitude and

00:25:40.800 emotional stability while also um drinking seed oil you know like vegetable oil right out of the

00:25:49.260 bottle every day um is a misnomer it's it's an oxymoron because the reality is is people don't

00:25:57.020 like this because it feels overly simplistic but the reality is um and i'm not saying we should do

00:26:01.920 this because this gets into the liberties that we talked about but if there was some benevolent

00:26:06.900 right-wing may not be that benevolent but let's just say a right-wing dictator that came to power

00:26:13.000 like basically like the trump that liberals think he is but we all kind of wish he was but he's not

00:26:18.120 even close you know but like if that guy actually did come to power and he said you know what new

00:26:22.940 law um every man in the nation um has to do this uh physical regiment every day this workout plan

00:26:31.400 every single one of them um i don't think democrats would ever win an election again 0.71

00:26:35.900 like and it's like no come on man that's ridiculous dude the studies are mind-blowing

00:26:42.040 like if a man has this kind of physical reaches this benchmark of physical stamina and and

00:26:49.900 testosterone levels he is this the statistical likelihood for him to vote conservative rather

00:26:56.640 than liberal is shocking yeah shocking it is and uh bet i love everything you said and i appreciate

00:27:06.120 you pointing out how you see christian pastors really neglecting the value of the physical body

00:27:14.480 they're all overweight you don't have sex before marriage um but the bible also talks the bible

00:27:21.180 talks about that but the bible also talks about gluttony yeah and here you are telling us not to 0.98

00:27:25.840 in one area, but you are a physical walking contradiction. But you got winded. We can all

00:27:32.360 see it. You got physically winded on your way up three steps to the pulpit. Why am I going to

00:27:38.480 listen to you? Yeah. And maybe to a point they make, of course, let's acknowledge you can be

00:27:45.660 enslaved by your body's gratification of five senses, your desire to gratify your five senses

00:27:51.780 taste. You can be loading up on sugar all day if you're just looking to gratify yourself. Alcohol,

00:27:58.960 let's feel buzzed. So, of course, there's a caution with the physical body. But if you look at

00:28:08.560 what's your life mission, how can you serve God? A strong, fit, resilient, capable body full of

00:28:17.440 energy will most likely make you a better servant of your family. You know, I've got a five-year-old

00:28:24.560 and a five-month-old. It takes a lot of energy to not only keep up with them, but to guide them

00:28:31.500 and have experiences with them. You know, I'm throwing my five-year-old onto the bed.

00:28:37.740 Like that takes strength, but it also takes resiliency. It takes energy to do the work I do,

00:28:44.620 the work you do, which I think we both, we're not perfect, but we do our best to serve God

00:28:50.720 through our work. Oh, that takes energy. To stand up for what's right takes energy. It takes strength.

00:28:59.200 And I think the warrior archetype that we all need that psychologically and physically,

00:29:05.860 that archetype that says, here's what I know is right. Here's the cause greater than me.

00:29:12.700 and i'm willing to die for that hope i don't have to but i'm willing to right the physical body is

00:29:18.940 very important when you're on the front lines even if you're on the third row back but the

00:29:25.060 physical body is just so important and i can tell you my experience i'll share two quick things

00:29:31.020 one of the things that makes my mind stronger more than anything i'll just say i need a strong

00:29:37.560 mind, one for my own discernment, my own critical thinking. And then when I voice that, there will

00:29:43.060 always be plenty of disapproval, no matter what, back when I was talking about gluten. 0.91

00:29:49.320 And now when I'm talking about, gosh, our government is occupied by Israel. You know, 0.91

00:29:54.520 331 of the 435 seats in Congress are all Israel lobby funded and controlled.

00:30:01.020 now comes the tidal wave online of backlash disapproval character smearing if you don't

00:30:09.600 have a strong mind you're going to back away you're going to pop i'm sorry i'll never talk

00:30:13.040 about that again so i need a strong mind i think everybody does but i just recognize here's how i

00:30:19.440 need one the thing you're right real quick yeah anybody in the public sphere who's going to

00:30:25.080 who's going to actually oppose the narrative approved dogma of the day

00:30:31.260 has to be resilient how many times have we seen guys like poke at the bear

00:30:36.860 um to like 48 hours later all of a sudden like clockwork the apology tour yeah begins like we

00:30:46.700 don't you can't do that like if you're going to be the man in the arena you actually have to be

00:30:51.920 the man yeah if you're apologizing because you said what you believed in you're not being a man

00:31:01.420 in that moment you're succumbing to cowardice and to the point of how that relates to the physical

00:31:06.900 i know for myself when doing hard physical things that give me a lot of discomfort for example

00:31:15.820 my workouts filled with lactic acid i'm winded it is so hard nothing makes my mind stronger than

00:31:24.600 that because yes i'm experiencing it physically and how that translates mentally is i'm doing

00:31:31.960 something very uncomfortable that just at a perceptual reactive level kind of makes me feel

00:31:39.100 like I'm going to die. So instinctively, I want to stop and back away, seek comfort.

00:31:44.740 But integrating my mind into that, not only do I keep going, I go harder and I go as hard as I can.

00:31:52.100 That carries over to how we do everything else in life. And then specifically with my family,

00:32:01.020 five months ago when we had our newborn, you know, life is chaotic for the first week. It's just

00:32:08.480 all over the map it's bliss and it's just chaos so I wasn't doing my workouts and then you know

00:32:15.540 I got back to my routine doing them again I said to my lady I said well when I'm working out

00:32:21.740 regularly I think I show up like 50 better for you and she's like there is no question you do

00:32:30.160 The family gets more when I am physically taking care of my manhood and my mind and ability to be resilient enough to unapologetically serve my best discernment of what God's mission is for me.

00:32:48.460 That just gets stronger.

00:32:50.500 So long story short, I see it very similarly where there is a great lack of attention to this physical vehicle.

00:32:58.740 I think as men, a little saying I have is callous your hands and sharpen your mind.

00:33:03.300 It's just very simple.

00:33:04.760 That's good.

00:33:05.100 Do something physically that makes you gritty.

00:33:08.460 It makes you uncomfortable because it really matters.

00:33:14.720 And going back to 2020, which was the first time I was really standing for something.

00:33:20.560 And coincidentally, right before that is when I started working with a longevity doctor,

00:33:28.140 found my testosterone.

00:33:29.640 It was, it was quote unquote normal.

00:33:33.340 Normal is based on a disease population.

00:33:35.500 So, and it was on the low end of normal.

00:33:38.440 So being real, it was low.

00:33:41.040 And through the doctor, I started optimizing my testosterone.

00:33:44.320 And then a few months later in life, we're doing COVID.

00:33:48.940 I'm seeing lies.

00:33:50.180 I'm seeing something I want to stand for that I've never been locked into quite like, uh, never

00:33:56.940 been locked into like this before. And luckily I had the strength, I had the, you know, physical

00:34:03.460 stature, the mental stability to do it. And then it's, the battle's only gotten tougher as we go.

00:34:11.220 Yep. Absolutely. Uh, there's something you said earlier, if we kind of rewind, rewind for a

00:34:16.280 moment uh you were talking about you know men who are you know they're effectively not literally

00:34:21.400 maybe some of them maybe literally but some of the transgender uh individuals but for everybody

00:34:28.300 else it's not literal but but for all intents and purposes spiritually mentally you know 0.82

00:34:33.960 psychologically castrating themselves and you correlated that to women because you know it's

00:34:40.420 like the man is called to be that last you know not last line but the first line of defense for

00:34:46.820 for the woman for the children and if men are abdicating their responsibility abdicating their

00:34:54.020 masculinity then then women are going to be the first ones to be affected by that and and i i

00:35:02.340 think that that was so insightful in my experience though i've seen the effect on women take um at

00:35:09.220 first it kind of surprised me, but now I see it as this one and the same in terms of the cause,

00:35:15.120 but the effect having two different outcomes. On the one hand, if a man abdicates responsibility,

00:35:24.340 courage, masculinity, standing in the gap, all those things, then the woman is just

00:35:29.780 completely defeated and like my own man won't stand up for our family. And so she despairs

00:35:37.680 and and just kind of follows suit with with him um the other outcome is if a man you know

00:35:46.360 spiritually castrates himself um i've noticed and i think this one can actually be just as harmful

00:35:52.000 um but some women will say because he refuses to wear the pants i'll put them on yeah and and i'll

00:36:00.760 be honest like i'm pretty outspoken about patriarchy as a biblical value and i'm pretty

00:36:07.300 along that that vein pretty outspoken against feminism and the boss babery and you know the

00:36:14.440 the pantsuits and you know the the blonde-haired busty gal at the conservative it's don't worry

00:36:20.500 it's conservative conference telling men how to live their lives like i just find that as like a

00:36:25.180 living breathing contradiction i think it's it's rife with hypocrisy i think it's comical you know

00:36:32.840 but but you at least are trying to be funny they're trying to be serious and i'm like what

00:36:36.940 you know like what is going on here is the hillary clinton like we're gonna get a five foot two 0.51

00:36:41.820 blonde haired chick in a pantsuit to tell them to call men into battle you know and it's it's just 1.00

00:36:47.980 silly. But as much as I'll rail against that, and I have, Lord knows I have, you can, you know, 0.98

00:36:55.700 Google Joel Webin and misogyny will be probably one of the first things to pop up. I always, you

00:37:00.240 know, to set the record straight, I am not a misogynist. I do not hate women. I'm married to

00:37:04.240 one and I have four daughters and counting. We'll see. We might have more in the future.

00:37:09.180 But I love women, but I am a sexist. I absolutely believe that men and women are different and not 0.71

00:37:14.580 just physically, not just broader shoulders for men and wider hips for women. But I actually think

00:37:20.300 that the differences that God instilled in men and women are not only physical, that's on the

00:37:25.080 outside, you can see it visibly. But I think that the outside is actually indicative of distinctions

00:37:30.880 between men and women that go all the way down. That you can dig up bones two, three hundred years

00:37:36.620 later and scientifically tell oh this was um a man this was a woman by their dna it's it's

00:37:45.220 imprinted not just in the hips and shoulders and not just in the facial features on on the outside

00:37:51.500 but all the way down psychologically it's like well women you know of course they're not going 0.66

00:37:56.900 to be able to compete at the same level as men and these physical you know feats of strength or 0.71

00:38:01.400 what you know but okay but it's not just that like women can't compete with men in chess and

00:38:07.940 it's not because they can't physically lift the pieces right so that's not just a physical 0.82

00:38:11.920 distinction there's there's and that's not to say women are dumb but men think in a certain way there

00:38:17.160 are different ways of measuring intelligence there's um verbal iq emotional iq there's so 0.99

00:38:22.600 men yeah are strategic for in a way that women aren't yeah for that matter if you look at the

00:38:28.300 things men excel at and say well women aren't good as good at those of course you look like a

00:38:35.220 misogynist right but then also look at the things women excel at better than men that their dna is

00:38:41.880 built for it's like oh now we can arrive at the conclusion we are different but our society if we

00:38:49.720 just focus on here's the man things and why don't me well you don't think women are as good no i 0.94

00:38:55.500 don't think they're as good. And I would even go so far as to say when we look at the mind virus 1.00

00:39:00.780 of feminism, and I do think it's a mind virus. I think it's a very degenerate mind virus. 1.00

00:39:09.140 Feminism, alcoholism, communism, not many of the Zionism, not many of the isms are like super good 0.98

00:39:15.160 for us. But I think as men, we can take responsibility and realize, I mean, I love

00:39:22.180 how you you tee this up women have had no choice but to try to take on the masculine role because 0.94

00:39:32.080 they're compensating for guys who have not done it exactly that's that's my point so when a man

00:39:37.480 castrates himself spiritually mentally psychologically and in the case of some radical

00:39:43.260 leftists physically even literally but when a man does that sometimes he is inadvertently uh

00:39:49.500 cutting the legs out from underneath the woman as well yeah but sometimes he is not trying to

00:39:57.520 be crude but sometimes he's metaphorically cutting out her legs and sometimes he is metaphorically

00:40:04.260 insisting that she all of a sudden develop a third leg yeah to replace his that's for whatever

00:40:13.840 reason missing in that moment and all of a sudden she becomes more masculine and and she's you know 1.00

00:40:21.680 so my whole point is i've railed against feminism i will admit though publicly i am i think it's

00:40:28.820 wrong that said uh there there are still certain things that we all agree this is wrong but we can

00:40:34.740 still have sympathy you know it's like this is wrong but also i feel sorry for you and i understand

00:40:41.300 i'm not it's not an excuse but it is a pretty darn good explanation for how you got there

00:40:47.020 and when i look at i mean like people dying in america of fentanyl it's like okay you probably

00:40:53.580 shouldn't be doing drugs at the same time though um why is there so much fentanyl in our country

00:40:59.680 yeah you know preying on the weak and and so so you can you can have a a frustration with the

00:41:07.760 individuals who've given in to certain vices and yet at the very same time you can have a genuine

00:41:13.180 compassion and sympathy for them and even greater frustration righteous indignation towards those

00:41:19.280 who are actually the perpetrators who are praying on the weak and and i look at at women and feminism

00:41:26.160 and i hate feminism but i hate it not just because of what it does to men i hate it for ironically

00:41:32.260 what feminism actually does to women yeah it destroys women and uh and i and i look at all 0.93

00:41:38.760 these things you know like libs of tip tiktok you know is you know that that's a pretty big account

00:41:43.200 that posted you know came with receipts a lot of great receipts did a lot of great work in 2020

00:41:48.860 and all that kind of stuff now i you know i would have my bones to pick about certain things

00:41:54.720 but you know i think they've done a lot of good but one of the things that i remember that account

00:42:00.760 and others like it boosting in 2020 and 2021 was all the uh the moms for liberty or all the um

00:42:09.540 the the moms at the school board meeting and and you know like i look at that and and i can have

00:42:16.160 a certain measure of appreciation and yet at the same time i always find myself with like

00:42:21.340 where are the men yeah like the whole mama bear mentality i get it it's cute that's a that's a

00:42:28.880 cute phrase and and i and i do get it i mean there are real stories of like kid trapped underneath a

00:42:35.220 car and that burst of adrenaline and this you know 130 pound woman like lifting the car to save the

00:42:41.860 life of it like i think there's a reality there but i think we all admit what makes those stories

00:42:46.840 so exceptional is that they are the exception and they're supposed to be the exception the norm

00:42:51.880 is the dude the norm is the man coming in with strength with fortitude with aggression uh to

00:42:59.120 defend his own and and so i all that being said my whole point is with covid and and with the 0.95

00:43:06.480 whole transgender madness and with this and with that you you you bucked against the trend with 0.99

00:43:12.860 all of them but the whole time it was like the the underlining message was men men need to be 1.00

00:43:21.560 masculine. It was masculinity. And that, cause a lot of people bucked against it, but didn't take

00:43:27.840 that approach. Yeah. Well, I love that you saw me seeing that underlying issue of we need

00:43:35.920 masculinity. Um, and man, we still do. I mean, we're talking about this in the frame of COVID

00:43:42.560 and here we are in just another pattern of the same crap happening, uh, present day, 2026, 0.97

00:43:49.760 but man we and here's the beautiful thing because it kind of sounds glum like men are weak and 0.91

00:43:57.180 that's basically why we have almost every measurable problem in our country today

00:44:03.280 and maybe the world at large so it sounds kind of glum however to me like well that's what gives

00:44:10.720 you hope because that's so in our control yes weakness or you're any minute of the day you're

00:44:18.340 either weakening yourself or strengthening yourself. Am I saying what I believe? Cool.

00:44:22.700 You're strengthening yourself. By God, you are. Are you cowering down, just staying silent or,

00:44:28.940 well, here's what I'm supposed to say. You're weakening yourself. Are you just laying on the

00:44:33.860 couch with Netflix all night or are you getting out for a 20 minute walk? Are you getting to the

00:44:38.440 gym? Are you eating foods that are strengthening you? Are you eating foods that are weakening you?

00:44:43.140 Are you sleeping enough to get an anabolic phase where you're getting stronger or not?

00:44:49.240 Are you instilling strong values in your children?

00:44:52.160 If so, well, strengthening them.

00:44:54.600 And boy, that's strengthening you as a father.

00:44:57.200 You're getting another rep of a good thing.

00:44:59.580 Or are you taking it easy?

00:45:02.120 Well, that's too much of a hassle.

00:45:03.660 We'll just let it slide today with the kids.

00:45:06.840 So for me, there is great hope because we can like we're the change.

00:45:12.620 If we see men are weak, not enough real whole masculinity in the world, in our countries, our families, our communities, well, then how cool is it to find out you can change that starting right now and then build the habits and discipline that have that positive change your consistent routines?

00:45:38.520 That's why I don't need anything else to do in life.

00:45:43.040 I'm busy as it is, but that's why shameless self-promotion.

00:45:47.280 I just launched a new YouTube channel called The Better Man Project.

00:45:51.560 It's because I want to directly address what you're talking about.

00:45:56.600 I'm so grateful you've seen it as I simultaneously talk about specific issues that are symptomatic of the weak masculinity.

00:46:04.920 but also it's time to just address it consistently full on and i want to use my voice to do that and

00:46:12.340 that's why i started the better band project awesome the whole time you were talking that

00:46:17.680 the keyword that that stood out to me was uh the word change and i think that that is um it's it

00:46:24.640 and i'll frame it like this um on the front end there's pain but on the back end there's hope

00:46:31.800 the core, like one of the top five core doctrines of the Christian faith is repentance, which is,

00:46:40.180 you know, to repent is to change, is to change one's mind. You're going one direction by the

00:46:45.940 grace of God. There's a conviction. The conviction is really just the, it's the exposure. It's the

00:46:55.220 knowledge of, hey, this thing that you thought was good or at least at minimum permissible

00:47:03.780 is actually bad. It's actually wrong. That's the conviction. Like that moment of the aha moment,

00:47:13.140 the moment of revelation where the Lord reveals to you, you're going down the wrong path.

00:47:18.860 um that's convicting and conviction hurts it it hurts it's it's much it's much more palatable

00:47:27.340 um and much less painful when uh when we convince ourselves that we have some kind of excuse

00:47:35.080 that it's like um this isn't your fault or it's and it's not your fault because you don't actually

00:47:41.780 through one reason or another, one explanation or another, it's not your fault. You don't bear

00:47:49.480 moral responsibility, agency, because you're not in control. So you don't have moral

00:47:58.120 responsibility because you don't actually, in this thing, for whatever reason, have agency.

00:48:03.900 You're not at fault because you're not in control. And I've found, as a husband, as a father, as a

00:48:11.780 even though it hurts and the initial feeling is hurt and you might even arouse in the person

00:48:20.960 you're speaking with initially a defensive posture, offense. The person might be offended

00:48:28.000 at what you say. I've always, or I'll say, you know, leaving room for human error, I've virtually

00:48:34.600 always, not maybe right away, but eventually on the back end, been profusely thanked by anyone

00:48:44.020 where I've been able to point out something as, and this is the biblical word, sin. Because

00:48:51.360 if it's not merely circumstances outside my control, well, outside my control may make me

00:48:58.420 be able to sleep a little better at night because I don't feel responsible for it because I don't

00:49:02.320 have agency, or I've convinced myself I don't have agency, but the things that are within my control

00:49:07.220 that I'm still doing that are wrong of my own volition, I'm willfully doing something wrong.

00:49:12.020 Well, the Bible lists that as sin. Nobody really likes to be told that they're sinning.

00:49:16.980 But what I've found is that realizing that you're sinning is painful, even angering,

00:49:25.240 but it's actually one of the most hopeful things in the world. And I love the two words that stuck

00:49:30.920 out to me one you kept saying change but you also said um hope and i think like if i was to define

00:49:37.340 the word hope in in the simplest shortest definition possible most concise i would say

00:49:42.220 hope is the belief that change is possible yeah if you if if you believe to me the to state it

00:49:50.900 the opposite um the most hopeless um bleak glum uh despairing

00:49:59.820 mindset that a person could possibly ever have is to think that um there can be no change yeah

00:50:09.160 so even if it's like hey this is wrong oh and and by the way it's also your fault

00:50:16.360 that sucks and i might my initial reaction might be a defensive posture and even taking offense 0.79

00:50:25.560 even hey okay that's cool i hate you i'm really mad at you for saying that but overall if i you 0.97

00:50:33.440 know give me a while i always tell people i respond really really well about 24 hours later

00:50:40.060 Yeah. Give me 24 hours and I will have the most charitable response. Now, I don't always have the

00:50:47.080 best response right away, but give me 24 hours. Let me sleep on it. Give me a moment. Get my

00:50:53.320 emotions in check. Think about it. Come to my senses. I respond really well in time. And I'm

00:51:01.220 convinced that most people are probably the same way that I am. You're probably in a similar way.

00:51:07.220 uh my first reaction um thanks so much also unrelated i hate you you know and i hope you 0.93

00:51:14.760 get hit by a truck you know but 24 hours later or maybe you know maybe it's 48 72 but within a day 0.95

00:51:20.880 or two gosh darn it i think he might kind of be right and even though that hurts and i don't

00:51:28.700 particularly like it you know what it's actually more hopeful than the previous narrative that i've 0.52

00:51:35.220 been using to console myself. Because the previous narrative, it absolved me of moral responsibility

00:51:41.160 because it said, I don't have agency. I don't have real control or say in the matter. But although

00:51:48.940 I was consoled by my previous narrative that I'm not at fault, I also was hopeless in my previous

00:51:56.480 narrative this one blames me but it also liberates me because now if i could believe this

00:52:04.840 if anything that that person just told me right the proverbs say um the wounds of a friend are

00:52:11.660 better than the kisses of an enemy and sometimes that's what brothers do they it's like i'm gonna 0.98

00:52:18.580 give you a little bit of tough love and the tough love is you suck but also the good news is it's 1.00

00:52:25.560 your fault that you suck. That's the good news? Believe it or not, it actually is. Because if 1.00

00:52:30.840 it's your fault, meaning you could do something about it, then you could actually stop. By the

00:52:36.140 grace of God, you could stop sucking. And I feel like the guys that have piqued my interest over 0.98

00:52:44.020 the last few years, you being one of them, one of the common denominators across the board with all

00:52:49.180 those guys are that they have a message of hope. And whether it's Zionists have occupied our 0.90

00:52:56.940 government or, you know, Trump wasn't supposed to win in 2016, but he won even with a popular vote 0.90

00:53:04.640 in 2024, maybe because this time he was supposed to win. This time he was regime approved. All

00:53:11.960 those kinds of messages that are like really blackpilling, really frustrating, you know,

00:53:17.220 on the front end what i've noticed is is guys like you the common denominator undergirding all

00:53:22.460 of it is um here's the bad news dot dot dot fine print here's the good news it doesn't have to be

00:53:31.200 this way yeah you you can't get out of a jail you don't know you're in so let's acknowledge

00:53:36.980 the bad news knowing that we're doing it because it's empowering you can change i it shouldn't be

00:53:45.800 this way, but I think our, our country is so void of self-responsibility that now if you have

00:53:54.700 a decent level of self-responsibility, it's like a superpower. Yes. And there, there's a reason

00:54:01.300 also why most people would rather be wrong than admit they're wrong. Synonymous with sin. Most

00:54:07.060 people would rather sin than admit they've sinned because it's painful. It's shattering. You can

00:54:14.100 even lose if you're wrong about something you can even lose self-identity like you kind of have this

00:54:20.580 sense of who am i is if that's not true then i don't even know who i am yeah but the payoff is

00:54:26.880 freedom yes like you if you free yourself from a self-induced prison a coffin of a comfort zone

00:54:33.440 formed out of a belief then you you are a very free very powerful person and if you're willing

00:54:41.600 to be guided by the truth, here's your destiny. You will have to acknowledge you were wrong so

00:54:48.460 many times because you ain't right about everything right now. So that's one of the

00:54:54.160 prices you have to pay to be guided by the truth. You're, oh, I was wrong about this. I was wrong

00:55:00.380 about this. You have to have the humbleness and the tolerance to go through that pain,

00:55:04.660 but know there's the payoff of i'm a freer person now yes and i'm more empowered now

00:55:10.780 i'll share this there's uh i love admitting when i'm wrong after i've had time to process

00:55:18.560 on my youtube channel past few years uh five years i've released two videos i was wrong about

00:55:29.540 abortion second video i was wrong about guns and in that i wanted to just model like i i've

00:55:38.320 legitimately changed my mind on these issues jp nobody people change their uh their minds because

00:55:43.980 it gets to the point where it's like you you can't keep going with the narrative because everyone

00:55:47.460 sees it it's blatantly obvious but this is what guys will do it and it's so insulting to their

00:55:52.640 audience is they'll literally be like hey i'm going to do a video today about second uh amendment

00:55:58.420 rights and never acknowledged gaslighting yeah it's just like um and and what they're actually 0.99

00:56:03.640 saying is hey you three million followers on youtube um i think you are so stupid like and 0.99

00:56:11.140 but but people do it all the time yeah trump literally said right and and he's supposed to 0.99

00:56:15.500 be a christian right he literally said in an interview they were like um what do you do when

00:56:20.220 you're wrong you know do you repent do you apologize and trump said well no my strategy

00:56:24.940 you is is instead just to never be wrong yeah and and you people to actually admit you're wrong it

00:56:31.240 it should be you were talking about a superpower earlier like taking responsibility as a superpower

00:56:35.560 here's another one because people are like we got them now they do it with me all the time it's like

00:56:39.500 we got them now we caught them in inconsistency and they think it's going to be like the the end

00:56:43.540 of my my career and my superpower is i'll just come out and i'll say yeah you did get me i was

00:56:49.880 wrong yeah i saw on twitter a few days ago you did that again yeah it's like i was wrong and

00:56:55.100 they're like no you can't do that it's like you know you actually can um especially as a christian

00:57:00.700 by the grace of god at any given moment simply say out loud and it will put you in the top

00:57:06.460 0.1 percent of all leaders of all time to be like no actually i just got something wrong and and you

00:57:14.500 one you have a clear conscience before the lord that's most important two you will garner

00:57:18.880 the irony is um everyone is telling you you'll lose all respect you will garner more respect

00:57:25.040 more loyalty more appreciation from the people listening to you than virtually anything else

00:57:30.920 you could possibly do they they perceive you to be trustworthy yes and and embedded in that has

00:57:39.400 to be what you were talking about you owning why it's your fault if you cast blame no now you're

00:57:47.140 you're faking it. You're, you're almost there, but you're faking it. For example, by the way,

00:57:52.200 I mess this up all the time. I'm just sharing an example where I think I did it right with a video

00:57:57.660 I did about gun control back in 10 years ago, I released a video making fun of gun advocates as 1.00

00:58:05.620 a comedy sketch and portraying them as stupid. And yeah, we need guns to protect ourselves from 1.00

00:58:11.480 a tyrannical government. Like that's ever going to happen. Then 2020 comes around. I was like,

00:58:15.860 oh that's the government they were talking about yeah so i've completely changed my mind i i see

00:58:21.180 our second amendment to be a so important and that's vastly different than the content i put

00:58:26.760 out before so in my video why i was wrong about guns i even showed clips from my old videos

00:58:34.180 that's powerful modeling how i was making fun of the people i am now just i wanted to rub it in

00:58:42.620 their faces really own it here's what i thought watch here's me thinking it here's what i think

00:58:49.080 now here's why i allow myself to believe that my self-ownership was it was more acceptable in the

00:58:57.120 crowds to uh say you know these guns we wouldn't have mass shootings it got me a sense of belonging

00:59:04.220 i didn't have to risk feeling disapproved of and i didn't have to do my own critical thinking i

00:59:10.300 wasn't doing my own critical thinking and now I am. And it was very weak of me to not do my own

00:59:18.660 thinking and to do something just to go along with the crowd or to believe something to just

00:59:25.100 go along with the crowd. But man, I know in my relationship with my lady, nothing builds trust

00:59:32.180 more when she comes up to me or I come up to her and say, you know, that thing we were kind of

00:59:38.240 arguing i can see how i was wrong i can see here's what i did or here's my part and i apologize for

00:59:46.660 that you don't build trust with people and you don't build trust with yourself through that

00:59:53.620 gaslighting and contorting yourself trying to present this i'm never wrong i can't change my

01:00:00.280 mind you're just holding your life together like a stack of cards yes yeah and all that plays into

01:00:07.060 the big topics at hand

01:00:09.320 like MAGA

01:00:09.940 I think that's part of why so many people

01:00:13.060 have lost respect

01:00:14.060 it's not just that Trump

01:00:16.940 changed

01:00:17.520 it's the fact that he

01:00:20.000 blue in the face

01:00:21.900 is sitting there telling us

01:00:25.100 that 0.99

01:00:25.380 don't believe your lying eyes 0.98

01:00:28.280 you know just the other day 0.64

01:00:30.320 Lindsey Graham has always been MAGA

01:00:31.660 Mark Levin has always been MAGA

01:00:32.980 cut to the Lindsey Graham and Ben Shapiro 0.96

01:00:36.340 clips of them saying i would never vote for trump mark levin you're crazy you're so it's

01:00:41.460 literally exactly what you described it's like i did this video once upon a time making fun of

01:00:45.200 gun owners but i'm now going to take the other position but i'm going to acknowledge that this

01:00:51.460 is a change this constitutes a change they're two contradicting opposing positions they they

01:00:57.400 therefore logically speaking cannot both be simultaneously right so one is right and the

01:01:03.460 other is wrong and so i'm going to admit that i was wrong like here's the deal i i think the war

01:01:09.180 in iran is wrong period but i would be at least a lot more forgiving if trump came out even if i

01:01:17.720 he didn't compel me or persuade me but he came out and said hey guys i know i made this promise

01:01:22.860 and i am doing something that flies in the face of it you're not crazy he would you are not crazy

01:01:31.040 and i'm i'm not going to disrespect you by gaslighting you this is different and i'll tell

01:01:36.620 you why i changed my mind maybe you believe me maybe you find it persuasive maybe you don't

01:01:41.440 but i'm at least going to acknowledge that i changed my mind it would be so much more respectable

01:01:47.320 oh my goodness and could you imagine trump doing that no it'd be great my imagination ain't that

01:01:53.800 good but like you if he did that it's not what i i'm against the war in iran too it's not

01:02:01.400 what i want but if he was honest and straightforward and even if he tacked on

01:02:07.260 more honesty with all my intel agencies said they don't have nuclear weapons

01:02:12.820 israel tells me they do we're doing this because of israel right more honesty i wouldn't have to

01:02:20.380 like his decision i i could disagree with it but there wouldn't be all this gas lighting and

01:02:29.060 betrayal that's fodder for commentary and videos it would just be the substance of i think it's

01:02:37.180 wrong to be in war with her but there's so much other haze layered in because of the gas lighting

01:02:43.940 exactly well said um going back maybe 10 minutes in the interview we'll end it with this but you

01:02:49.780 said um you know the cost is you know that when you admit that you're wrong the cost is the pain

01:02:54.920 of being wrong so you could almost say like the cost the initial cost of admitting you're wrong

01:02:59.280 of apologizing is uh guilt now you were guilty whether you admitted you were wrong or not right

01:03:05.240 because objective truth actually exists right there is such a thing as objective truth so whether the

01:03:09.720 person is aware that they're wrong or not they're still guilty but it's still it's the the subjective

01:03:14.920 not objective, but the subjective reality of feeling and accepting that guilt. And that hurts.

01:03:22.840 That's painful. So the initial cost of admitting you're wrong is guilt. But you said that the

01:03:29.080 payoff, the benefit, is freedom. And I just couldn't help but thinking, you know, the verse

01:03:36.020 in the Bible, the truth shall set you free. So thanks for joining me. Appreciate it. Thanks, JP.

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The NXR Podcast - June 10, 2026

THE SPECIAL - From Essential Oils To Essentially Cancelled ｜ The Evolution of JP Sears

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