The NXR Podcast - August 19, 2026


THE SPECIAL - How Far Right Is Too Right (w⧸Partridge, Smith & Robinson)


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00:00:00.000 Radical Christian Nationalist Pastor, Joel Webben.
00:00:05.520 Joel Webben.
00:00:06.720 I'm going to talk about Joel Webben today.
00:00:08.840 Joel Webben is an accident.
00:00:10.500 all right welcome back this is actually episode two of a multiple part series with the primary
00:00:35.760 host of the nxr studios network and so we have dale partridge and harrison smith and calvin
00:00:42.980 robinson and myself joel webben we all lead weekly shows on the nxr studios network new
00:00:49.380 christian right if you're with us for the first episode we talked about the problems we see on
00:00:55.200 the right why we're about to get crushed good and hard why we deserve it where we need to course
00:00:59.780 correct where we need to repent so that our families are not endangered it was a really
00:01:04.140 important episode giving the lay of the land politically culturally uh religiously uh what
00:01:09.000 we need to change where the achilles heel is what are the weak points and uh and how to how to um
00:01:16.740 to ultimately to ward off uh the impending doom and destruction that is very much heading our way
00:01:23.000 and we foreshadowed in that episode that in our second episode we wanted to answer one of the
00:01:28.320 questions that we recognize is in the back of the minds of a lot of our listeners and people who are
00:01:34.560 even on our team already but still curious but especially those who are good faith they're not
00:01:42.980 opponents they haven't made up their mind that they hate us but they're also not necessarily
00:01:47.400 on the bus along for the ride they're kind of in this middle ground saying i like i like you guys
00:01:54.520 I like a lot of what you're doing but my big concern is how far right is this train going
00:02:00.600 like where is the stop you guys are pushing and you've been pushing for a while maybe they've
00:02:08.020 been following you Harrison and your show or you Calvin you Dale me and they're like all along the
00:02:13.500 way you you you say something I bristle I cringe I shudder six months later 18 months later I agree
00:02:24.380 with you but then you've got something else um is there any breaks is there a stopping point do you
00:02:31.000 have a destination or is it just we're pushing as far right indefinitely forever with no end in sight
00:02:38.680 that's an important question that we want to answer and i and i kind of framed it at the end
00:02:43.760 of our first episode saying um every organization every movement has quite literally hundreds of
00:02:50.520 values but what makes them distinct from other movements other organizations is not their values
00:02:55.760 that that often could overlap largely 90 of your values of one organization might overlap with
00:03:02.780 another but what distinguishes those two organizations is not their values but their
00:03:07.180 priorities you can value a thousand things but you can only prioritize a handful of things
00:03:14.640 we have four pillars that we're prioritizing not because we think these are in a timeless sense
00:03:20.500 the the four most important truths but we believe in a timely sense the sons of issachar in the old
00:03:27.680 testament were commended by god because they knew the times we have have identified four pillars
00:03:34.460 four priorities that we think are not necessarily the most important or even the most true but we
00:03:41.520 believe these are four things that are in um certainly true and they're the four things that
00:03:47.160 are most currently in our day under attack and therefore they require um they require the the
00:03:54.440 firmest buttress uh the firmest defense um so these four pillars that we're going to outline
00:04:01.160 in this episode and then what we're going to do is for each of these four pillars distinctives
00:04:06.640 priorities uh we're going to show you that there's actually because we want to win we're not just
00:04:12.260 larping we want to win we recognize that we need a broad uh coalition and so with each of these
00:04:19.200 four pillars there is a sliding scale to each of them so four different uh principles but varying
00:04:26.080 degrees and so what we want to show you is uh number one um what is the minimum bottom line
00:04:32.840 must be this tall to ride the ride on each of these four pillars to be on the team where we can
00:04:38.200 we can lock arms be co-belligerents and be fighting uh for the same future of america
00:04:44.800 so what's the the minimum requirement the minimum lowest degree of each of these four pillars
00:04:49.820 to be on the team and then the second thing is where are we at on the sliding scale with each
00:04:55.940 of these four pillars um and in in that vein you've probably heard me say or other guys on
00:05:02.320 the team talking about the principle or or in this case maybe the strategy the practice of hiding
00:05:08.440 your power levels i want to clarify i'm not going back on that but i want to clarify that when i
00:05:14.880 talk about hiding your power levels believe it or not and this is important for this episode
00:05:20.080 we are not hiding our power levels so that is not a principle or a practice that we employ
00:05:26.620 personally. What you hear us say publicly from the shows or for those of us who are ministers
00:05:32.820 from the pulpit is actually where we're at. It's actually what we believe. It's actually the final
00:05:38.500 stop where the bus stops for us. When we say hide your power levels, we're not saying that we are
00:05:44.300 hiding our power levels. We're saying that many of you, because you're not a pastor or you're not
00:05:49.780 a podcaster we are trying to be the tip of the spear and pushing forward and providing cover fire
00:05:57.060 for all of you but you young man who's listening to the show you need to be taking over your local
00:06:04.940 GOP chapter you need to be taking over your young republicans chapter you need to be maybe you're
00:06:10.960 involved with tpus like you actually do need to hire hide your power levels temporarily to some
00:06:18.320 degree not uh being blatantly deceitful but simply being wise innocent as doves shrewd wise as
00:06:25.580 serpents so that you're not immediately doxed and fired and your future you're a 22 year old single
00:06:31.960 young man you have your whole life ahead of you um you probably not don't need to go on a public
00:06:36.720 rampage about race you probably just don't so the hydra power levels i just want to be abundantly
00:06:41.880 clear to our listeners who are in that middle zone they don't hate us they also don't love us
00:06:46.540 they're actually feeling this out is this a team a movement i could be a part of you're a good faith
00:06:51.800 listener and you have that it's not a got you for you it's actually a genuine question how far are
00:06:57.960 you going i want to be abundantly clear what we say in this episode with the four pillars and where
00:07:03.580 we're at on the spectrum for each of them and what we've said in the past and what we'll say moving
00:07:08.860 forward is actually um our destination it actually is the the the end of what we're trying to achieve
00:07:16.220 we're not uh we don't have a secret agenda so we're not secretly trying to get back to um to
00:07:23.020 the third reich we're not secretly trying to get back to say what's the end of the the train well
00:07:27.900 the the final stop of the train is auschwitz no no that's actually not our position we actually
00:07:32.760 fundamentally and and i i promise you if my signal chats of which there are many if they ever got
00:07:38.920 leaked or harrison's or or calvin's or dale's um you would find us saying behind closed doors
00:07:45.300 the same points and principles that we say up front on the podcast so the practice the strategy
00:07:52.620 of hide your power levels is not us that's not what we're doing it's what we are um simply
00:07:58.660 suggesting to some of you if you're trying to make it in in the fortune 500 world you need to
00:08:04.340 be shrewd we're not trying to make it in the fortune 500 world the lord by providence has
00:08:09.380 outlined for us a different future a different path so we are actually being completely up front
00:08:14.680 about where we're at but some of you need to be strategic so i want to be really clear here are
00:08:22.200 what distinguish us our priorities our four pillars here's the minimum bottom line of the
00:08:27.960 sliding scale with each of them in order to be on the team a co-belligerent here's where we are
00:08:33.880 currently on each of these four pillars and where we plan to remain on them but the final thing that
00:08:40.360 I want to say for this episode is well what about so Joel you're allowing for guys to a reasonable
00:08:46.900 measure to your left for lack of a better word but to use that frame you're saying here's the
00:08:52.160 minimum bottom line you're further than that but you allow for guys who aren't as far as you
00:08:57.480 to be on the team well what about guys who are further than you and what I want to say publicly
00:09:02.520 and clearly without equivocation is guys who are further than me just like the guys who are not as
00:09:08.880 far as me i would fundamentally disagree with that said there's a difference in disagreeing
00:09:15.280 with someone versus trying to destroy someone and what we've experienced on the right on several
00:09:21.900 occasions is guys who were edgelords provocateurs controversial figures tip of the spear they were
00:09:29.060 pioneers carving out new paths right they were not just riding the bus for the right they were
00:09:36.020 driving the bus engineering the push then they decided to cash in their chips at a certain point
00:09:41.800 and yes i'm talking about guys like doug wilson they decided to cash in their chips for them to
00:09:46.640 decide this is my stop and to get off the bus was not sinister that is not inherently the fault
00:09:53.400 everyone will have a different stop it depends on providence it depends on your marriage your
00:09:59.040 children where you live your vocation your calling all these different things some guys will say joel
00:10:04.920 I'm only going to go this far. Joel, I'm sorry. I'm actually, I feel the Lord calling me to go
00:10:09.780 further than you. And we then disagree. I think that's too far. Joel, I think you're not going
00:10:16.600 far enough. And we can disagree, but still not hate each other and not be mortal enemies of
00:10:24.240 one another. The gatekeepers, the problem was not that they chose to get off at an earlier stop.
00:10:30.280 the problem is that when they got off after not just being on the bus but driving the bus
00:10:35.760 ingratiating all these young men to trust them and to get on their bus when they decided this
00:10:41.740 is my stop and got off they didn't just get off the bus they rigged a pipe bomb on the bottom of
00:10:47.440 the bus so that anybody whether they were going a hundred miles further or whether they were going
00:10:53.320 just to the very next stop just an inch further to the right everyone who stayed on the bus an
00:10:58.740 inch past them got blown to smithereens that is sinister that is inherently wicked that's immoral
00:11:06.820 and wrong and so you don't have to be as far as us to be on this team and i'll outline what is
00:11:13.620 the non-negotiables how tall to ride the ride you also could be further than us and still be in the
00:11:19.680 you may not be on the nxr network we may not give you your own show you might not be asked to be a
00:11:25.240 speaker at our conference but we are not going to view you as a mortal enemy and and put a pipe
00:11:31.280 bomb under the bus and seek to destroy your life right that's important to express as well and then
00:11:37.380 finally where exactly is in xr studios on each of these four pillars and is that your your final
00:11:45.900 stop or should we just be holding our breath expecting that six months from now all of a
00:11:51.240 sudden you're pushing for something that's more extreme and, and me as a good faith normie will
00:11:57.160 never be able to keep up. That's an important episode. That's what we're doing today, but I've
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00:13:31.880 Well, in terms of what you see is what you get, or WYSIWYG, I have a short anecdote on this. My
00:13:36.680 private group chats were leaked to the british government very recently a friend of mine someone
00:13:42.920 called him a racist and in return he called them a pedophile just to point out you can't call people
00:13:47.720 names without backing it up uh it went to court and he was found guilty of ruining their lives
00:13:53.760 they weren't found guilty of ruining his life because of course there's a two-tiered system
00:13:57.720 if you're on the right it means one thing if you're on the left it means another thing
00:14:00.120 however one of the things we've just recently discovered is during this case
00:14:03.400 all of our group chats were disclosed to the british courts i was like fine whatever because
00:14:08.260 what i said what i say is what i mean some of our friends were more upset because they hide their
00:14:12.560 power however my friend was found guilty of not being racist but not correcting me on something
00:14:18.900 racist that i said so it's like guilt by association but it just goes to show the things that i say on
00:14:23.920 air all the things that i say in private too we do have ethnic enemies we do have different cultures
00:14:28.440 and different ideologies different faiths and there is a priority to those things and there
00:14:32.620 is an order to those things and it's right and proper to defend your own before the other but
00:14:37.120 uh just to say that my my group chats are already out there and there's nothing in them that isn't
00:14:41.140 what i've already said on twitter can we say thank god for the first amendment
00:14:44.400 thank god i live in a free country now oh my goodness dude it's like we really are as bad
00:14:51.620 as things are we are so blessed to be in america there's a reason you're here yeah right uh anything
00:14:56.920 yeah no i think i think the idea of being on the same team is a very easy thing to understand if
00:15:01.980 if we're on the same football team, I can completely disagree with you. I can think
00:15:05.200 you're the worst person ever. But if you lose, I lose. So we're going to work together on this,
00:15:10.180 and we're going to pursue the same goal. And to me, that's sort of the answer I've always thought,
00:15:15.480 you know, with racial division, whatever else, the answer is nationalism. The answer is, but
00:15:19.560 we're on the same team. We can disagree. We can not even like each other. We can recognize that
00:15:22.820 we have differences. But at the end of the day, we're both American, right? So let's high five
00:15:26.840 and get this done for both of us i i think that is a is a valuable way to think about all this
00:15:32.020 that's the way i think about it where i'm i try to maintain friendships across the board on the
00:15:37.160 right uh people i'm friends with both of them will hate each other but i'm like guys we're on the
00:15:42.400 same team so save it for the locker room let's get out on the field and win together uh and if
00:15:48.140 that's not the mindset then then yeah we're going to fall to fracturing and for the record that's
00:15:52.160 part of the reason why um why i picked harrison and asked him and he was gracious enough to oblige
00:15:59.160 to be on the nxr network is because i had been following you at that point for a couple years
00:16:03.960 and watching you from the sidelines a little bit of interaction but but mainly watching
00:16:08.840 as a bystander and it's it's not that i i felt like there was a lot of overlap a lot of um
00:16:15.520 similarity in our positions and what we were fighting for and what we believed but beyond that
00:16:20.280 um it wasn't just uh the positions and the convictions that you held it was your tactics
00:16:24.900 i i i liked your battle tactics um because i was like look some of these guys are are so
00:16:32.880 pigeonholed right there's their purity spiraling and and purist god bless them they've got
00:16:39.580 convictions you know out to wazoo there's no lack of conviction um but there is often a lack of
00:16:45.540 pragmatism a healthy kind of pragmatism that uh that allows for any real success i actually want
00:16:51.720 to to win not just with 17 followers in a group chat i want to win real world battles on a real
00:16:59.260 world stage which means that we're going to have to have numbers which means that the guys on our
00:17:06.200 team can hold really controversial positions to the average person in terms of what they believe
00:17:13.720 but in terms of how they fight they have to be guys who know how to play well with others
00:17:19.540 yeah well and this is you know the really valuable thing about having a family and
00:17:23.740 going to events and talking with normies if you're online all day every day i know this is like the
00:17:29.100 most cliche thing ever but it's so true you really get a warped view of the the wider world out there
00:17:34.780 you go talk to people i mean half people don't know what the heck's going on and if they were
00:17:39.440 to hear one third of what we say. They'd be, you know, appalled by it. So when you talk about hiding
00:17:44.020 your power levels, I guess the different phrase would be just like strategic disclosure, right?
00:17:51.700 So a good example for me, I think I've always been pretty anti-Israel because when I was really
00:17:56.240 young, one of my best friends was Lebanese Christian. I got the story of the conflict
00:18:00.480 in the Middle East from the Lebanese perspective. Israel is very clearly the bad guy. Now, I was
00:18:04.480 friends with a lot of people who were very even religiously dedicated to israel until october 7th
00:18:09.680 and the ensuing you know they've seen some stuff in the last few years where previously if they'd
00:18:14.640 asked me what i thought about israel i wouldn't have lied to them i wouldn't have held my power
00:18:17.620 level and said oh yeah israel is great and lied i would have said hey israel is maybe not the best
00:18:22.000 and you should maybe look into it but but you wouldn't have divulged but i wouldn't have but
00:18:26.200 i wouldn't have said what i would maybe say now now that they've been introduced to the evidence
00:18:31.380 now they're more open to the message that that or a different method of delivering the message
00:18:37.600 so when you talk about hiding your power levels that's how i perceive it is i'm not going to lie
00:18:41.600 about what i believe and i'm not going to hide what i believe but i'm not going to say certain
00:18:45.880 things to certain people because i know they're not in a place to to receive it exactly hiding
00:18:49.960 your power levels is um committing to to not committing to not commit unforced errors yeah so
00:18:56.920 it's not a commit a commitment to deceit it's not a commitment to um explicit lying it's a commitment
00:19:04.080 um to avoiding suicide yeah that's all it is so it's like you whether you're applying for a job
00:19:10.100 with an employer or something like you don't have to not only do you not have to you should not
00:19:15.560 you're morally obligated under god to not go in and lie so you don't self-volunteer right of your
00:19:21.980 own volition go into that interview and say um i think that you know every single woman should be
00:19:27.120 a career pursuing woman and uh and and we should have you know the same number of female ceos
00:19:33.200 as males like don't do that because because that's wrong and if you do think that then i don't know
00:19:38.460 why you're watching this we're not we're not the group for you um but so you shouldn't lie at the
00:19:43.680 same time you can do the interview honestly uh answer the questions but not of your own volition
00:19:48.920 say oh and by the way let me tell you what i think about women well and also you also just have to
00:19:53.540 have empathy for other people and go look this person is a turbo normie and has no idea they
00:19:58.180 genuinely think if i say a certain thing like if i say i'm i'm against israel they genuinely think
00:20:03.780 i'm an anti-semite and so you kind of have to have empathy for that and go how do i structure what i'm
00:20:07.840 saying to to comport with their you know established worldview in a way that can actually convince them
00:20:14.520 or get through to them effectively.
00:20:15.840 This is a strategy.
00:20:17.300 This is key because essentially I'm a pastor
00:20:19.860 and pastoring is discipleship.
00:20:21.900 And discipleship is taking people,
00:20:23.640 shepherding them on a journey,
00:20:25.700 recognizing that we didn't come
00:20:26.820 to these positions overnight either.
00:20:28.300 And so it's taking people through a journey
00:20:30.800 and being patient with them as they're on that journey,
00:20:33.140 essentially at the larger level.
00:20:34.540 Because the Lord's been patient with us.
00:20:36.120 Correct.
00:20:36.500 And the larger level,
00:20:37.600 what we're doing is Overton Window shifting work,
00:20:40.020 which takes a significant amount of years to do that.
00:20:43.260 And there has to be somebody on the front edge of the Overton window. But to be outside of the Overton window by 10 miles is you have less and less people. And so, again, when we're trying to talk about these positions, I think one of the key principles over all these pillars that you're going to talk about here shortly is for me and I think for all of us here is, is it reasonably defendable from Scripture, these positions?
00:21:10.780 Are we the first people to ever come to these exegetical conclusions from the scriptures?
00:21:17.120 I appreciated J.D. Hall's line that he got from someone else's, you know, if it's new, it's generally not true.
00:21:23.000 If it's true, it's generally not new.
00:21:25.160 And I think we might hold a position on one of these pillars that I go, well, if it's defensible from scripture,
00:21:32.940 like you can actually make a case from scripture and you're not the first person to hold this by a long shot.
00:21:39.600 like there's 10 to 20 legitimate theologians or Christian men throughout history that have held
00:21:46.320 these positions. I think those are positions that if I hold this position, you can't cancel me
00:21:53.500 without canceling all of these great men behind me that hold this position as well. And I think
00:21:58.060 that gives a little bit of comfort to these people that we have to know church history,
00:22:03.120 we have to know reason, logic, basic fundamentals of theology, and you realize some of these things
00:22:08.900 actually aren't that scary we just live at a time that has erased everything that is normal time we
00:22:14.220 live in is crazy the time we live these things are actually normal yeah sorry so four pillars
00:22:19.140 without further ado um one christian nationalism two biblical patriarchy three race realism four
00:22:29.280 anti-zionism so christian nationalism biblical patriarchy race realism and anti-zionism um to
00:22:37.880 first define terms a little bit uh christian nationalism and and here i'll start carving out
00:22:43.800 the sliding scale the spectrum in terms of how far do i have to be to at least what's the minimum
00:22:49.480 threshold to ride the ride to be on the broader coalition on the team um what i would say is this
00:22:55.080 christian nationalists the minimum requirement for that is that you have to acknowledge and um not
00:23:02.860 just acknowledge assent right uh assent of knowledge uh but also at to some varying degree
00:23:10.160 celebrate see it as good so you give your assent but you also are giving not just your assent but
00:23:17.940 your consent uh you're um you're consenting to the the universal positive good of america
00:23:27.380 being at a national level not just that america has lots of individual christians in it but you're
00:23:35.020 um you're agreeing with america being formally and publicly and nationally and and this meaning
00:23:43.020 also not just religiously or culturally but politically christian so uh here's the irony
00:23:50.300 um we hope that the vast majority of our followers are christians and when i say christian i mean
00:23:58.620 born again regenerate by the spirit um truly christians right that brothers and sisters in
00:24:05.860 christ who will be with us for eternity in heaven that said here's the irony on the very first
00:24:11.180 pillar christian nationalism has christian in the name of the pillar to be in the broader coalition
00:24:17.820 so this does not mean that you would be a member of my church right there are different categories
00:24:22.880 in my church you could not be a member of my church if you weren't a christian you certainly
00:24:27.640 could not be an elder or a deacon an officer ordained officer of my church if you were not
00:24:33.760 a christian to be a part of this movement though the new christian right you actually don't have
00:24:39.840 to be a christian i know that sounds crazy and and we're going to get a bunch of crap for this
00:24:44.440 but here's my point um asman gold right i'm going to use him as an example because it's a brilliant
00:24:50.720 and perfect example he just recently came out as a guy who is not a christian he's also for the
00:24:58.520 record he's more agnostic slash atheist but more i think agnostic than atheist i think he believes
00:25:04.440 in a higher power knows that there probably is some god just isn't sure who it is but he's not
00:25:10.180 a muslim um he's not religiously jewish hindu buddhist etc he's just your your typical western
00:25:18.620 modern agnostic right it's pretty cliche um i hope he i because i love him i hope he changes
00:25:25.720 you know and becomes a christian but in the meantime uh could asmund gold be on the team
00:25:30.500 in terms of this first pillar surprisingly yes because what he has just publicly said
00:25:36.200 is um he's like i'm not a christian but i acknowledge that america is in both in its
00:25:43.800 founding and still in present day a christian nation and not only am i just giving my assent
00:25:50.560 i also consent consent to i want america i acknowledge that if america stopped being a
00:25:58.340 christian nation explicitly publicly unapologetically formally at a political level
00:26:04.880 national level if it ceases to be a christian nation then i lose the america of my childhood
00:26:11.600 right i lose my home i lose my traditions i love my country and i recognize that my country has
00:26:19.560 always been a christian nation and if it ever ceases to be i am losing something i love even
00:26:24.640 as a non-christian so the sliding scale what's the minimum bar to ride the ride the minimum bar
00:26:31.880 would be this that you acknowledge regardless of your own personal religious affiliation
00:26:37.400 you acknowledge that both in america's heritage its past and in its present and you give your
00:26:44.040 consent for what you hope and what you earnestly in good faith wish for america's future that you
00:26:50.540 acknowledge the past the present and hope for the future that america was is and always will remain
00:26:56.700 a christian nation what does that mean a minimum bar so for me i would like to see sabbath laws
00:27:02.900 one day dale i know that you would too right i would like to see laws against blasphemy
00:27:07.860 um so if you mock allah you're upon it no that would actually be permissible that may not be
00:27:15.080 tasteful right there's a time where elijah mocks the prophets of baal so you can actually mock
00:27:21.420 servants of false gods and false gods themselves he says uh perhaps baal baal for the common tongue
00:27:30.140 perhaps baal is taking a crap perhaps he's in the in in the john yep so he's mocking both the
00:27:38.100 prophets the servants of all servants of a false god and the false god itself um and i don't think
00:27:43.580 he's doing so sinfully i actually think this is a commendable what he's doing is commended by
00:27:48.540 scripture. So you actually can, against some beliefs, you can mock false religions and those
00:27:56.840 who follow false religions. It is permissible at times. That is different though. I don't believe
00:28:04.640 the Bible says you must always. So there is prudence in this matter. So personal prudence,
00:28:10.680 there is a time to not be rude, to be respectful. So I'm not saying you must always mock false
00:28:18.500 religions but here's my point um with blasphemy you mock um allah you mock judaism you mock
00:28:26.440 hinduism you mock atheism which is a religion let's be honest um that may be permissible in
00:28:33.740 the sight of god it may be impermissible given the context given prudence it may be bad taste
00:28:39.520 it may be disrespectful it may be immoral it would not be a crime it would not be a crime
00:28:45.740 under any circumstances it would actually be protected under free speech it would not be a
00:28:50.460 crime if you mock the christian god for two reasons one because he's the god that actually
00:28:56.640 exists and i can't skip over that one the christian god is god second because he's also the
00:29:03.500 god of these united states that's the god of our heritage that's the god of our culture that's the
00:29:09.160 god of our country so both contextually here in america and then universally in terms of absolute
00:29:15.120 truths mockery of the christian god would not only be distasteful and immoral i in my conception of
00:29:22.320 christian nationalism right telling you where i'm at i said we would say minimum bottom line but
00:29:27.060 then also where we're at for me personally i would want to see blasphemy of the triune god
00:29:32.620 something that is not just immoral but also treated as criminal i'm not saying that it must
00:29:37.580 merit the death penalty or something extreme like that and i'm also not saying right so hear me these
00:29:43.140 caveats are important this isn't just being a nuance bro we're getting into the nuts and bolts
00:29:48.060 and clarity matters i'm not saying that somebody who's watching a horror film at the theater
00:29:54.580 right i won't say what color they are but probably black um that they shout out at a scary part
00:30:00.140 jesus christ right that that is taking that's a breach of the third commandment it's taking the
00:30:05.480 lord's name in vain second commandment for you right so third commandment second commandment
00:30:11.540 it's a breach of one of the ten commandments we all agree on that right uh we would say that is a
00:30:16.600 sin actually that is a sin um i would not say that this person in the back row of the movie theater
00:30:23.260 who shouts out jesus christ when they get scared at a scary part of a movie
00:30:27.580 i should be arrested what i am saying though right so i'm being clear here when the sisters
00:30:32.900 of perpetual indulgence are a bunch of whores dressed like nuns and they get a man and strip
00:30:39.600 him naked and paint him with red paint to make it look like blood and put him on a makeshift cross
00:30:44.780 and they're doing a public parade in front of children and these whores dressed as nuns are
00:30:50.160 gyrating in front of someone who's dressed up as the son of god yeah jail absolutely straight to
00:30:58.160 jail praise god um like yes that kind of being flogged of course beaten by rods and then you
00:31:05.420 but but the point is yes so even that not necessarily i want it i actually want it right
00:31:10.120 here's me being just a friendly neighborhood moderate centrist lib um i actually want it
00:31:15.600 uh argue for the death penalty i would say that um just like you have in the state of texas you
00:31:21.300 litter um up to two years in federal prison or a five thousand dollar fine i don't know about you
00:31:27.660 guys i don't know anyone personally who's doing a hard time for throwing a coke bottle out the
00:31:32.440 window it's a maximum penalty right a maximum penalty in my view of the old testament not only
00:31:38.440 its laws but the penalties prescribed to breaking them is that the bible when it throws out the death
00:31:43.620 penalty the only thing that the bible mandates capital punishment for is murder the taking of
00:31:49.480 a life mandates that you forfeit your own all the other now the bible actually lists the death
00:31:55.480 penalty for a lot more than just murder if you ever read the old testament it's it goes hard in
00:31:59.380 the pain right god does not mess around so it's like you're carrying sticks on the sabbath innocent
00:32:03.440 children yeah yeah so like there's a lot of things where the bible is and death and death and death
00:32:08.420 and death and you might you know if you're a lot of you guys who listen you may not be a biblical
00:32:12.920 scholar that's fine um and you might be like dang that's that's kind of hardcore my understanding
00:32:19.340 and many of the church fathers right so it's not just me it's right if it's new it may not be true
00:32:24.160 this is in line with church history is they view those as maximum penalties so it's not
00:32:28.600 the mandated exclusive penalty capital punishment for some of these lesser crimes than murder
00:32:34.120 but it's up to so what i would say is even the case of the sisters of perpetual indulgence
00:32:39.500 publicly in a parade in front of children mocking the lord jesus christ with with high degrees of
00:32:45.580 perversion i would say um that that should be a crime not just immoral a sin but a crime it would
00:32:52.660 not automatically merit the death penalty in fact i would argue against it and wanting to be a
00:32:57.160 humane society but i what i would say is repeat offenders right so the guy who throws a coke
00:33:02.740 bottle out he doesn't go to prison but if next week you throw a trash bag out the window and
00:33:07.320 then all of a sudden you're you're discarding televisions and then and then like nuclear
00:33:11.700 waste and you know like eventually you go to prison for littering right it's what degree of
00:33:17.260 litter and how the sequence right the repetition repeat offenders eventually you can be punished
00:33:23.840 up to this degree and i would say the same for blasphemy i know this is a lot and i'm going to
00:33:27.920 give it to you harrison but my my final point is again so that's that's where i'm at that's where
00:33:32.740 i'm at when i think of christian nationalism i would like to see dale i know you agree calvin
00:33:36.900 i think you would agree i would like to see the constitution that we don't abide by but i actually
00:33:42.440 love it believe it or not i would like to see it upheld and i'd like to see us actually abide by
00:33:46.820 I would like to see no revisions. I'm not trying to rewrite the history of our country. I'd like
00:33:53.540 to see zero revisions to the Constitution. I would like to see us with the first 10 amendments get
00:33:58.440 back to authorial intent. And I would like to see with the latter amendments, those revisited
00:34:03.500 after the 10 amendments. Some of them kept, some of them amended, some of them maybe discarded.
00:34:08.720 But the Constitution itself and the first 10 amendments, I would like to see them remain
00:34:13.640 intact back to authorial intent actually obeyed and adhered to and all i would ask for is a formal
00:34:20.920 adoption of a preamble to the constitution that would be something not confessional that would
00:34:27.000 that would ostracize some christians but something creedal like the apostles creed as a preamble to
00:34:33.600 the constitution i would like to see blue laws that's sabbath laws i'd like to see the marketplace
00:34:38.440 take a rest on the lord's day forced mandated church attendance no but but the civil magistrate
00:34:44.600 setting a more conducive environment for church attendance yes that people have that day off
00:34:50.320 there of course would be emergency workers there would be emt there would be hospitals you know
00:34:54.660 all those kinds of things it would be done with prudence and with reason but the idea of everybody
00:34:59.040 running their shops to just to give to give into the highest degrees of materialism on on the
00:35:05.620 sabbath when we should be worshiping the lord i think that that that should actually be not only
00:35:10.280 distasteful frowned upon but it should actually be illegal so where am i at apostles creed as a
00:35:17.140 preamble um sabbath laws blasphemy laws uh with reasonable prudent um fines at first and and then
00:35:25.660 you know so on and so forth for high degrees of of of criminal activity repeat offenders
00:35:31.280 i think that's actually moderate how far do you have to be you don't have to be that far
00:35:35.740 asmund gold would probably disagree he wouldn't like blue halls i'm just guessing um he seems
00:35:40.820 like a great guy and we could just politely disagree i think he's actually tall enough to
00:35:45.280 ride the ride and be on the team so uh what's the minimum bottom line on this first pillar of
00:35:49.720 christian nationalism yes i i i absolutely acknowledge america is a christian nation of
00:35:56.160 course it is and it should remain that way and what does that mean for our civil leaders maybe
00:36:02.080 not uh specific christian laws uh but you know what it should mean it should mean that uh the
00:36:07.260 white house says merry christmas and does not say happy dawali yeah that's it if you're that tall
00:36:14.080 on this first pillar then you can be on the team and if you're wondering how far is is joel webin
00:36:19.800 and dale partridge how far are they going to go what i just told you my my conception so i will
00:36:25.300 i will happily link arms with the nasmond gold yeah i will also happily link arms with someone
00:36:30.700 further than me and not put a pipe bomb on the bus and destroy them for me personally what i
00:36:35.720 just articulated blasphemy and blue laws and the apostles creed that's not just my position that
00:36:40.960 i'll say publicly meanwhile hiding my power levels that's the whole enchilada that's the final stop
00:36:45.660 on the train and um and uh you don't have to be where i'm at to be on the team harrison you're
00:36:54.920 you're the only non-minister i'll get to you dale but you're the only non-minister and i really am
00:36:59.300 curious to hear from you is that crazy uh no i feel like i'm i may be a like a little bit further
00:37:06.160 down the spectrum like not as far down the spectrum as you when it comes to things like
00:37:09.820 blasphemy but i think your example of the sisters of immaculate parody whatever whatever they're
00:37:14.540 called that's a great example and it's about understanding the principle of why we have
00:37:19.160 values like free speech and freedom of religion here it's not the example i would use was would
00:37:24.000 be the the crucifix in the jar of urine that they called art right we are under no obligation to
00:37:28.920 uh allow that to happen because it's it's not a critique of the religious structure it's not
00:37:35.580 an alternative position it is pure mockery it is pure just like you know it's a classic thing of
00:37:40.280 you know how do you define pornography you know when you see it i think there's something like
00:37:44.640 that with blasphemy where it's like okay you can be very offensive in the way that you critique a
00:37:48.980 certain religion and i think that should be allowed because i think it's important that we
00:37:51.980 have uh an extremely you know broad ability to discuss these certain things but pure mockery
00:37:58.220 pure just just to get a rise just to to denigrate somebody else's religious belief
00:38:03.480 i would say you know why why would we um be obligated i don't believe we are obligated
00:38:09.820 carve out to provide that legislative provisions for that kind of and to take to see if i can take
00:38:16.580 you one step further um would you agree that that would be distasteful towards any religion
00:38:24.280 but would you agree that if there should be any deference to one religion that america's
00:38:30.840 deference should go to christianity yes absolutely yeah 100 and i and that's pretty much for me
00:38:35.940 that's the bar well and and let's not forget you know maryland used to have blasphemy laws like
00:38:40.740 the idea of blasphemy laws is not even alien to american history i mean we had those and then of
00:38:45.280 course, nowadays, you look around, I mean, we're allies with Saudi Arabia, they don't have a single
00:38:49.720 church in their entire country. So, you know, again, the idea that we would say, no, we're just we want
00:38:54.460 to be Christian in nature, that's still so much farther down the spectrum than many modern
00:38:59.380 countries exist now. So again, just to put this in context, while some people who have have absorbed
00:39:05.180 the sort of the new American, you know, in you American idea of freedom of speech means you're
00:39:11.000 not allowed to put any limitations on anything pornography should be everywhere and blasphemy
00:39:15.600 should be uh it might sound scary what joel webin is saying that blasphemy laws you got to understand
00:39:21.400 in context worldwide it's you're still having you still have a pretty moderate position dubai is
00:39:25.960 very modern and very tolerant but everybody knows you go to dubai and you can be a billionaire
00:39:31.780 a western billionaire who is not a muslim um and they're going to have some of the loosest
00:39:37.240 restrictions islamic restrictions compared to other muslim nations but um everybody knows you
00:39:43.920 go to dubai andrew tate knows this you go to dubai you're not mocking allah right right and
00:39:49.760 um the women are not going to be shaking hands or wearing bikinis or wearing bikinis and i don't
00:39:55.380 begrudge them that and they're allowed to do that and look they've been able to here's the point
00:39:59.720 um not only they allowed to do that they've been able to do that and still be um very tolerant
00:40:07.080 very inclusive and economically incredibly successful yeah that has not inhibited their
00:40:13.980 prosperity or their inclusion and yet everyone knows you go to dubai and it's not the same thing
00:40:20.720 as going to the sudan but everybody also knows you go to dubai is there religiously um is it
00:40:27.400 a pure religious pluralism or is there a clear singular deference to one religion and that
00:40:33.520 already exists. We have that implicitly. In Britain, if you are taunting Islam, you can get arrested.
00:40:39.040 I've got friends who have been arrested for taunting Islam. In this country, if you taunt
00:40:42.320 Israel, you can be deported. So there's already deference. It's just the wrong God.
00:40:46.680 Exactly right.
00:40:47.540 A last thing, because I think this is the most important thing right now when it comes to
00:40:51.560 Christian nationalism, is defining it. I really think that's important because our enemies are
00:40:55.140 defining it for us, and they're defining it as basically Nazism. And they're basically saying
00:40:59.680 Christian nationalism is a whole new political worldview where they're going to force Christianity
00:41:04.080 down your throat. I always compare it to, and maybe I'm wrong, maybe my interpretation is a
00:41:08.540 little bit off here, but the party that has controlled Germany for the majority of the
00:41:12.500 time since the Second World War are the Christian Democrats. Now, they're obviously
00:41:15.760 non-democratic or Christian by any stretch of the definition, but if you were to say I'm a
00:41:20.820 Christian Democrat, nobody would say, oh my God, you want to throw me in a cage for not worshiping
00:41:24.640 Jesus? No, we're Christian and we're nationalist. Is this really all that complicated?
00:41:29.440 Well, this is the problem is that, yes, is that because Christian nationalism is two terms, right?
00:41:36.280 We know that the first modifies the second, right?
00:41:39.020 And so nationalism is the other side of the conversation that we've been afraid to have.
00:41:42.820 Everybody's, oh, we're Christian.
00:41:44.160 Great.
00:41:44.420 Okay.
00:41:44.820 And we saw recently the post that went out, Christian patriotism versus Christian nationalism.
00:41:50.060 And in Christian patriotism, they tried to define this as essentially as a soft position that really had no nationalistic tendencies.
00:41:58.540 However, again, biblically speaking, nationalism is defensible, not just defensible through
00:42:04.480 scripture, but also historically.
00:42:06.320 It's the norm.
00:42:07.760 And so I think part of Christian nationalism is that we're not doing Christian multiculturalism.
00:42:12.460 And that's what a lot of people want.
00:42:13.780 They want what we have, but Christian.
00:42:16.840 The problem is, is that a nation actually has a definition.
00:42:19.400 A nation is made up of things like ancestry and language and a particular piece of land
00:42:26.380 and particular laws, particular religion, traditions.
00:42:30.600 And we all know that.
00:42:32.000 Mexico knows that.
00:42:33.180 Japan knows that.
00:42:34.140 Korea knows that.
00:42:35.700 Iran knows that.
00:42:36.660 Everybody knows that.
00:42:37.700 And that's what a nation is.
00:42:39.140 And when we know what a nation is,
00:42:40.540 and then we go, well, it's also Christian.
00:42:42.980 And which plays into what Joel's talking about
00:42:45.180 is that it should inform to some degree our politics.
00:42:48.940 Now, I would say, yes,
00:42:50.660 I would actually go further on the constitution.
00:42:53.340 I think the constitution is great.
00:42:54.460 I think the biggest blunder of the Founding Fathers was their lack of clarity on their intent.
00:43:00.900 They used words like religion when they should have used Christianity, which was a clear synonym at that period of time.
00:43:07.980 And, but we know that, you know, 98%, I recently said this in one of my episodes of American Glory, is that if a Muslim nation was started by 10,000 Muslims and produced a government, and everybody that immigrated was also Muslim, and that was the same thing for 100 years, would we say that that's not a Muslim nation?
00:43:31.680 No, of course, it's clearly a Muslim nation.
00:43:34.060 It's a nation for Muslims, by Muslims, to perpetuate Islam.
00:43:38.280 Even if they never say that.
00:43:39.300 Even if they never say that.
00:43:40.120 It's implicit because it's just a fact that you can see.
00:43:43.420 And that's exactly what happened with the United States.
00:43:45.820 And so I would say, yeah, when it says freedom of religion, we know what that really meant.
00:43:50.720 What that really meant was, you know, Maryland was Catholic and Virginia was Anglican.
00:43:55.440 And, you know, other states held their other traditions of Protestantism.
00:43:59.980 Yeah, and sorry to interrupt, but let's not forget, this is, you know, less than 100 years after the English Revolution where they were burning Catholics at the stake and, you know, there was real bloodshed over this.
00:44:10.660 So that's what they were trying to, they were specifically trying to avoid that outcome.
00:44:14.340 They were trying to avoid intramural battles.
00:44:16.620 Exactly, holy wars that were occurring.
00:44:18.920 Among Christians.
00:44:19.500 Among Christians, which was a novel.
00:44:20.620 One type of Christian versus another.
00:44:21.880 It was a novel idea and a good idea to have, essentially, we can be unified without being uniform.
00:44:28.320 and that was truly the basis freedom of religion the first amendment was freedom to choose which
00:44:35.180 christian denomination you will be a part of so what they meant as a provision for different kinds
00:44:42.240 of christians got hijacked by liberals to be applied much broader than they ever even conceived
00:44:48.900 of to not just different types of christians but different types of religions so what they meant
00:44:53.700 for presbyterians baptists anglicans and catholics all of a sudden um it's now for
00:44:59.940 now it's for muslim jews buddhist like that was never the end and that's why i say with the first
00:45:06.020 10 amendments um i don't they don't even need to be changed we need to get back to authorial intent
00:45:11.340 the first word of the first amendment everyone leaves that out the first word of the first
00:45:15.940 amendment is congress so i agree with the first amendment with the authorial intent of it that
00:45:21.880 Congress cannot at a federal national level declare one particular
00:45:27.500 denomination of Christianity as the national expression of Christianity for
00:45:31.460 the whole country.
00:45:33.140 Yeah.
00:45:33.420 That's what they were talking about.
00:45:34.460 There are other aspects.
00:45:35.520 Which is what happened in England,
00:45:36.780 which is what they were rebelling against.
00:45:38.420 Which is what we were fleeing.
00:45:39.160 It was specifically to like,
00:45:42.000 hey,
00:45:42.100 we're not doing that here.
00:45:43.260 We're not going to have an Oliver Cromwell.
00:45:46.100 We're not doing the Catholic versus Protestant burning each other in the
00:45:48.780 village square thing.
00:45:49.840 We're not doing that here.
00:45:50.840 We're all going to get along.
00:45:51.880 And if you and if you lose that, then you lose it all.
00:45:54.540 You know, another thing in the First Amendment, they have the five freedoms.
00:45:56.600 One of the five freedoms is freedom of the press.
00:45:59.180 And I always try to remind people back then the press wasn't just the newspapers, the media.
00:46:03.940 It was a machine. Right.
00:46:05.700 So to update the First Amendment, it would be something like, you know, freedom of the technology necessary for mass communication.
00:46:12.220 So now the press, as they wrote, it would be the net, the Internet, the communication network.
00:46:16.620 So, you know, a lot of this stuff, we believe in the Constitution.
00:46:19.520 We believe in the First Amendment, the Bill of Rights, all these things.
00:46:22.700 They do need an upgrade.
00:46:24.000 They do need an update.
00:46:24.940 We need to remind ourselves, again, what the purpose of these things was.
00:46:29.120 The freedom of religion was so that we weren't killing each other in the street
00:46:31.840 and that we all had a common alliance beyond your religious affiliation.
00:46:38.560 That's the point of it.
00:46:39.520 It wasn't so that some radical anti-Christian person can mock Christ and get paid for it.
00:46:44.560 And yeah, we had Christ in fellowship together,
00:46:49.720 but we also had a nation.
00:46:51.700 And again, I think that's the big part
00:46:53.200 is that when we talk about Christian nationalism,
00:46:55.500 we do have to talk about immigration.
00:46:58.360 We do have to talk about who can become a citizen,
00:47:00.620 naturalization.
00:47:01.060 Because we know why the left bristles with pure hatred.
00:47:05.400 It's more than a bristle when we say Christian nationalism.
00:47:08.200 They hate both pieces.
00:47:09.820 They do, and they hate the second piece.
00:47:11.660 But what we need to,
00:47:12.660 that what we're trying what you're trying to get at is we're acknowledging it's not just the
00:47:17.520 leftoids um it is many christians correct bristle against the phrase christian nationalism they
00:47:24.320 don't mind the christian part they want they despise the national correct and that's what
00:47:28.520 i'm saying is that a lot of people go oh christian nationalism where we want everything as it is just
00:47:34.500 christian and i will admit that that would be certainly better than what we have right um where
00:47:38.460 we have you know 40 different ethnicities in one nation with different languages but they're all
00:47:44.200 christian dude i take that improvement i take that in a hot minute but what i prefer is what
00:47:50.520 historically we were and what all nations in scripture including the old testament nation of
00:47:56.280 israel was was an actual nation the actual criteria that makes a nation a nation in the first place so
00:48:01.880 we're saying yes we want everybody here christian we'd also like to have one people
00:48:06.000 and and part of that looks like getting rid of a lot of people those especially those who are here
00:48:12.140 illegally right but it's not just that it's not just that you know everybody has to go back a lot
00:48:18.020 of people do have to go back and that is it going back is a moderate position just for the record
00:48:22.960 but there will still be we acknowledge it would not be an all-white country there would be lots
00:48:28.100 of people here there would be heritage blacks there'd be heritage hispanics there would be
00:48:33.060 lots of people here there would be asians there'd be lots of people here who who are not white are
00:48:38.700 not of european descent but still what we would like to see with them is we would recognize okay
00:48:45.360 so we are a nation that actually has a plurality of races and and this is where words matter
00:48:51.600 a plurality of races but on the race category a clear predominant race which is anglo-saxon it
00:49:00.140 it is essentially the state which is but even though a plurality of races not a plurality of
00:49:05.920 ethnicities meaning in terms of the ethnicity category there's all sharing the same language
00:49:12.380 same loves same laws same land right same liturgy so they're all uh similar um in in their uh
00:49:21.020 religion they're all christian they all speak uh the king's tongue english um they all adhere to
00:49:27.820 the same tradition. We're all celebrating Thanksgiving and the 4th of July, right? And
00:49:32.140 some are black, some are Hispanic, Latinos, some are Asian, and most are white. So plurality of
00:49:39.140 race, but predominantly white, not a plurality of ethnicity and race and ethnicity. Or religion,
00:49:44.720 not a plurality of religion either. That doesn't mean subjugating everyone, doesn't mean forcing
00:49:48.360 everyone to be Christian. Freedom of religion means you have the freedom to be Christian in
00:49:52.520 whatever tradition you your comes from your lineage right but you don't have to be correct
00:49:57.480 but that also means christianity is the preferential religion so you can be a hindu a seeker
00:50:02.420 or mohammedan whatever in private but you don't get a mosque you don't get a temple you don't get
00:50:05.900 a synagogue correct that's right and you certainly don't get national holidays right no and and
00:50:11.180 shout outs from the white house and to go a step further correct me if i'm wrong but i think it
00:50:15.600 would be fair to say you should be anglo-christian male to stand for office to run for election
00:50:19.700 in an Anglo-Christian country.
00:50:21.320 These are all of those things.
00:50:23.080 Obviously, we're going to run out of time
00:50:24.260 because we'll have to talk about the other ones
00:50:25.480 in other episodes.
00:50:26.140 But these are the kind of things
00:50:27.420 that need to be clarified.
00:50:31.760 What you're talking about is,
00:50:33.100 what does it mean to be a Christian nationalist?
00:50:34.780 We actually did a documentary, you and I,
00:50:36.480 where actually all three of us were in it.
00:50:37.580 You weren't in it.
00:50:39.500 But there was a documentary,
00:50:40.840 What is Christian Nationalism?
00:50:41.800 I thought that was a decent introduction to,
00:50:45.620 what does it mean to be a Christian nation?
00:50:47.800 And I think you're right.
00:50:48.500 that is the work of the church right now to make it less scary, to remove the fear of being
00:50:56.420 associated with that particular term. But again, we have to get back to, are you Christian? Yes
00:51:01.100 and amen. Are you a nationalist? And I think that we've been so inundated with globalism
00:51:06.220 and multiculturalism and ethnic plurality, and that's the offensive and sensitive part
00:51:12.780 that really needs... For Christians.
00:51:14.020 yeah for christians and that's why we need a biblical defense not so much for christianity
00:51:19.720 but for for nationalism that's that's a key thing that's why that's why guys on our own team
00:51:26.100 more broadly speaking are trying to present christian patriotism as the mandated alternative
00:51:34.460 to christian nationalism because at the end of the day i'm not i'm not making any kind of judgment
00:51:39.640 about their soul in the objective sense i'm not saying that they're not believers they're not
00:51:44.180 christians the lord sees the heart man looks at the outward appearance i don't know that's between
00:51:48.300 them and god but let's give them in the spirit of charity the benefit of the doubt and say they are
00:51:52.680 true blue born again christians the reason why they want christian patriotism and not christian
00:51:58.280 nationalism is although they may be christians they are liberals they're playing by the old
00:52:03.900 rules and their first world war ii consensus and their highest god might be christ but a close
00:52:10.280 second is liberalism yeah and contained in liberal liberalism the heartbeat the engine
00:52:16.360 the guiding force is egalitarianism yes all the way down egalitarianism between men and women
00:52:22.640 right sexual egalitarianism egalitarianism with race racial egalitarianism egalitarianism
00:52:29.320 with culture right all cultures are equal they're different sure but they somehow while being
00:52:34.860 distinct they're still perfectly equal except oh you know but also white culture is the worst you
00:52:39.960 know and like and so they like it's there we have to name it in biblical terms for what it is it's
00:52:46.540 idolatry most christians not talking about the left the left hates the christian peace just as
00:52:52.280 much as it hates the national peace but talking about intramural battles with guys who are our
00:52:57.660 own brothers and sisters in christ they actually hate christian nationalism not because of the
00:53:03.020 christian adjective modifier but because of the nationalism piece and it is because they have
00:53:08.160 given at some degree or another another their hearts over to idolatry their idol is liberalism
00:53:16.180 and i'd also i mean you know obviously there's like a rise in paganism now and there's a
00:53:21.480 there's a knee-jerk reaction that people have that i understand and i can empathize with but we have
00:53:26.520 to be able to avoid things like when you see how extreme the zionists are and there's it's so
00:53:32.120 offensive and you see you know they'll laugh at dead babies and there's a natural response to go
00:53:36.460 oh yeah you're that bad i'm going to be that bad to you and i we need the christian aspect
00:53:41.380 to understand and it's the most cliche thing ever but cliches are are cliches because they're true
00:53:47.000 hate only begets hate and if we want to end any of the cycles that we see of exploitation or
00:53:53.080 destruction you have to intervene and go you're just not allowed to do that i don't hate you
00:53:57.560 for what you're doing but i'm not going to let you do it i'm going to do it with love in my heart
00:54:00.740 but i'm going to do it i'm going to put my foot down and i'm going to say absolutely not you're
00:54:03.940 not allowed to do this i'm not going to become you and say you're trying to kill me i'm going
00:54:07.840 to kill you i'm just not going to let you kill me and i'm not going to let you try to guilt trip me
00:54:12.500 for defending myself does that make sense well said all right so let's do this episode this is
00:54:17.560 episode two episode three we will cover the next three pillars because we framed it now um so we
00:54:25.100 should be able to move more quickly with the next three again to remind you christian nationalism
00:54:29.540 biblical patriarchy and we'll explain that and give kind of again lowest common denominator
00:54:34.420 lowest common denominator just foreshadowing a little bit would be simply you could define it
00:54:38.980 and biblical patriarchy that seems foreign or that seems intense um masculine leadership
00:54:44.320 masculine leadership so we'll define that um and then the next would be race realism we'll define
00:54:50.100 that and then the last one would be anti-zionism um and we'll define that uh so next episode will
00:54:56.820 be the next three pillars what are they what's the sliding scale right must be this tall to ride
00:55:02.040 the ride where are we personally at giving assurances that we're not hiding our power
00:55:06.600 levels and we're going to go you know a hundred miles further um but also we're not going to leave
00:55:10.780 a pipe bomb on the bus to destroy everyone who goes an inch further to our right that'll be the
00:55:15.160 next episode it'll be the biblical patriarch biblical patriarchy the race realism and the
00:55:20.580 anti-zionism this episode is carving out that first pillar which really sets the tone for all
00:55:26.560 the other ones christian nationalism what does that mean what's the minimum bottom line that's
00:55:30.680 your asmund gold kind of thing where are we at um and and then you know the first half of the
00:55:36.140 episode for you guys who were paying attention was just expressing uh the importance of having
00:55:43.060 a broad coalition playing well with others not just wanting to lark with 17 mutuals online but
00:55:49.260 win in real world victories on the real stage and and then you know and then also um us not being
00:55:57.180 vindictive and seeking to destroy people's lives who who maybe who maybe see it differently and go
00:56:02.560 be on. So that's our episode for today, and we'll pick it back up with the next three pillars in the
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