THE SPECIAL - Stop Waiting - No One Is Coming To Save You
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NXR Studios' brand new website is now officially live! Go to NewChristianRight.co/christianright to see all the stuff that we re cooking up in the year of our lord 2026. We re hosting new shows: Christian Nationalism Weekly, American Grit, The Next Crusade, The Silent Jihad, and Off Limits News.
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Big news. NXR Studios' brand new website is now officially live. Go to newchristianright.com,
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newchristianright.com, and see all the stuff that we're cooking up in the year of our Lord
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2026. We are hosting new shows. We have the Monday and Friday live stream, but we're now
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condensing it to just a weekly show on Mondays, and it's going to be called Christian Nationalism
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Weekly, hosted by myself and my co-host Wesley Todd and Antonio Griffith. But then on Tuesdays,
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we're inviting a new host to the NXR Network, Dale Partridge. On Tuesdays, we'll be leading a show
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called American Grit. Then on Wednesday, we're going to keep our flagship show where I do the
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long-form interview with notable guests on the Christian right. It's called the NXR Special.
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Another host joining the NXR network, Calvin Robinson.
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And then lastly, one third and final new host joining our team, Harrison Smith.
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You might recognize him from working with Alex Jones in Infowars.
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He's going to be doing a weekly show on Fridays called Off Limits News.
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All five of these shows, Monday through Friday, will air at 5 p.m. Eastern time.
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And all of this will be starting on Monday, May 4th.
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In addition to the new shows, we also have new books.
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So we have a brand new edition of our first publication
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We have sold thousands of copies just in Q1 of 2026.
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It's called The Hyphenated Heresy, Judeo-Christianity,
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There's a problem in our nation politically
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and there's a problem in our churches in America.
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Dispensational Zionism has a stranglehold on evangelicals.
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So this book, The Hyphenated Heresy, Judeo-Christianity,
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written by myself and my co-author Jordan Hall,
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We've got a brand new cover, brand new edition,
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but available for pre-order right now. This is written by Calvin Robinson, and it's called
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The Silent Jihad, How to Stop the Islamification of the West. It will be shipping mid-May in just
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a couple weeks, but pre-orders are available right now. Our third book, it's going to be shipping in
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July, but again, it is available for pre-order now. It's called White Genocide, The Criminal
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Conspiracy of Immigration, Demographic Replacement, and Anti-White Racism. This is written by myself
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and again, Jordan Hall as the co-author. This will be shipping in July, available for pre-orders
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today. Then lastly, our final book of the year, Shipping in September, is written by Dale Partridge.
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It's called 19 Reasons to Repeal the 19th Amendment. Shipping in September, but pre-orders
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available today. You can go again to our website, newchristianright.com, or go straight to our store,
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which is shop.newchristianright.com, and check out the books. Pre-order them today.
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All four of these books are the conversations that a lot of guys on the conservative right
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are not willing to have. Demolishing Feminism, 19 Reasons to Repeal the 19th Amendment,
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standing up against anti-white hatred with our book, White Genocide, stopping the Islamic invasion
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with the silent jihad and getting rid of toxic Zionism with our first publication, The Hyphenated
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Heresy. The last thing I want to share with you is this. In addition to the books, we also have
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at shop.newchristianright.com in our store, our new merch line. We've got shirts, we've got hats,
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we've got hoodies, we've got tumblers. And my favorite shirts, I'm a little biased because
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this is the only one that I actually had the idea for, but it's called Diversity for Israel.
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And here's basically the thought behind it. I've been told by a lot of people that anti-Semitism
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is on the rise in America and it's very, very dangerous. And so I wanted to do my part and
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shut down the anti-Semitic rise in America. And I thought to myself, well, what have people been
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saying to me my entire life is one of the most virtuous, valuable strengths in America? And I
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mean, look no further than diversity, right? Diversity is our greatest strength here in
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America. That's what I've been told over and over for years and years now. And then I started
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thinking, well, who is our greatest ally when you think about America? And certainly we've been told
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again and again, it's Israel. And so I thought if we want to stop anti-Semitism, then we should stop
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being so selfish as Americans, especially as Christians. We should be sharing. We should be,
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let me say it this way, we should be demanding, insisting that America's greatest strength
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No one has provided more for America than Israel,
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to share with our greatest ally, our greatest strength,
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Radical Christian nationalist pastor, Joel Webben.
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All right. So now we're going to talk about solutions. What do we do? We discussed at the
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end of our prior episode that a lot of what's required is political will, not just hearts for
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revival, but the stomachs for revival. We have a rising new generation that is angry, in my
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assessment, not nearly angry enough. And certainly that indignation has to be a righteous
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indignation it has to be coupled with virtue so my problem is i see uh not that i see too much
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anger but i just don't see quite enough anger and i see a huge deficit of righteous anger i see
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too much vice not enough virtue we should be prudent but we shouldn't be overcautious
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i was talking to you guys the other night about um when don lemon and his liberals raided a church
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I put up a picture on social media of me in my church holding my AR-15.
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The message there being, you're not raiding our church.
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If you come and try to disturb that, we'll kick you out.
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It's not to say I'm going to go out shooting people.
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It's to say we will defend ourselves and our liberty to worship our one true living God
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If it's no to all three, then yes, it's wise.
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But we want to be overly cautious of appearing nice to the nice world.
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The world isn't nice, so why should we appear nice?
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We'd be following the Christian princes on horseback with a spear or a sword,
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going into battle to take out these Jewish paedophilic elite.
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We don't have the Christian princes, but we are faith leaders.
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so our job is to catechize is to is to form train educate the next generation so that they are
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equipped to fight theologically and intellectually yes but it may come to fighting physically too
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yes yeah i think part of the problem is um in order to make changes you need power
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and all power in our country currently is female adjacent so part of the problem is that everything
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is feminine coded yeah because of democracy uh it requires that uh in order to achieve any any
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measure of influence or authority whatsoever you have to have at least half of your approval
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come from a group of people who uh hate aggression yeah insist on niceness yeah
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how is that going to work well you have uh helen is her last name hunt i don't remember maybe that's
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the movie star i can't remember but she's she did a feminization of institutions she gave a really
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great talk on that yes yes yeah she she gave a good talk on when you have the feminization of
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institutions or the infiltration of institutions through uh through women you essentially change
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the culture of institutions, that produces circumstances where masculinity dies. And in
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order for survival, you need to appease the feminine virtues and desires. And so I think
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what we have right now is we have what I would call like selective outrage. And this is the
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inconsistency of our outrage. So we'll be very angry about certain things and not angry about
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other things and there's a lack of of um unequal tables of justice or weights of justice on
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particular issues um i was in a conversation talking about how they made the um joan of arc
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character was to be a black woman oh yeah yeah and i somebody said to me like why are you even
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talking about this right um and they're a white person why are you even talking about this
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or um snape was uh a black casted as a black character i'm like this is an english story
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the text says that his like pale face in the actual manuscript of the book
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and there was frustration it was select white selective white outrage around frustration and
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i go well are you are you upset about the discussion going on around this you know character
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uh this revisionist history uh pattern that we're seeing in hollywood but you're not upset
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about the overarching meta-narrative of replacing historic figures with non-historic realities
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are you are you not upset about the national dishonesty or the media dishonesty around these
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issues it's kind of like if you have a bully and he's poking somebody and he's poking somebody
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and then the bully the little kid finally pushes back and then you yell at the little kid hey why
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are you pushing back it's like well for the last several decades we've had this constant revisionist
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history, pushed at us on every possible desire. And so I think that outrage needs to be consistent.
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It needs to be judicial. It needs to be virtuous. It needs to be Christian. It needs to be righteous.
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But how do we get there? I think that's the question about what are you allowed to be upset
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about? How do you temper it? Because I think a lot of young men are either blackpilled on something
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or they're, they're just, we know the common reality of a young man is to not manage prudently
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his temper. And so how do you, how do you look at them? We're older men now that we're, you know,
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40 and above, or Jill's about to be there. But how do we get these young men who are 20
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to be outraged righteously but also not extend into folly i think that's a that's a big question
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um i don't know if anybody's going to have a great answer on it but i think it's it's the
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ongoing generational discussion yeah i don't i don't see any path um aside from
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like the full removal of feminism um like i i just think so long as we have democracy coupled
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coupled with universal suffrage um you will constantly be going against the grain you're
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constantly going to have half of the population voting for temperance tolerance yes you can't
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suicidal empathy yeah um and so do we not understand at this point what it's like to
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even be in a masculine culture because right now everything that is actually just masculine right
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seems extreme because of our feminine sensitivities it has to be either or it's binary it's either
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masculine or it's feminine we seem to think we can have this balance but it just ends up being
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feminine right so we've got to remove the feminism and that means that men have to stand up and take
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ownership again take responsibility again it means we can't wait for women women to say we
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don't want the vote anymore we're going to take the vote from them and that's the that's the
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clincher there that's the problem that's the hard bit yes yeah just at the end of the day
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it has to be um there's always an aristocracy whether formal or informal there's always an
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elite class and um i'm constantly reminded of uh the passage in the gospels that said jesus did
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not entrust himself to men for he knew what was in men's hearts um you know there are moments
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throughout the earthly ministry of christ where the people uh wanted to crown him king right where
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the the people were very much uh pro jesus he was a populist figure um there are moments where
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the people wanted to kill him as well um but at the end of the day uh what wins out is not uh the
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people like the elites tried to kill him the pharisees sadducees religious rulers but did not
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on several occasions in the in the highest sense because it was not yet his time um but in the
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temporal human level uh they didn't and the text will say because of you know for fear of the people
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because jesus was popular he was he was liked by the common man but my point is that even the case
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of christ the people generally liked him they were fickle and went back and forth but generally
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liked him and at moments wanted to uh to crown him king the elites although in terms of the numerical
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comparison were were an extreme minority um you know spoil alert if you haven't uh familiarized
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yourself with the story the elites win uh jesus is ultimately put to death the elites beat out
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the people and my point i guess is that um i don't think you're going to get people to vote away
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democracy or vote away you're but it does happen it it can but my but my point is that i'm agreeing
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with you i think that it has to be taken i think that men virtuous ambitious masculine men have to
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climb the ladder of power yeah and forcefully uh take away from the people that which is their
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i'm going to skip straight to the chase you know that i know that you know that i know you're using
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nicotine half of the people that listen to the show you use nicotine i know this because you've
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told me literally to my face you've come to our conferences you walked up to me and said hey
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i'm using nicotine it's boosting my testosterone levels it's making me lock in with the projects
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I don't know 20-25% of the group chat is talking about what nicotine product we happen to be using
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at any given moment so I'm not telling you to start a new habit and I'm not telling you to
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It's Joel 20 exclamation point, all caps, Joel 20 exclamation point.
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And maybe what we're doing here is those young men often, as the case is for older men and younger men, are looking for permission.
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a lot of those guys have been told by the gatekeepers don't do that yeah but i think that
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if you can look at the man and go do it and do it righteously do it and do it virtuously uh but do
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it and and by the way when you're swinging a sword there's always casualties there's always a reality
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that comes into play with war um this is something you know what i what i often see about with uh
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social media i'm out there saying hard things you guys are saying hard things and it's during the
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crusades your husband would go out and he would fight a battle and the women didn't see it right
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and the women couldn't watch it and so they come back the men come back and they they they're that
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loving husband again that loving father again but the woman has no opinion or um discussion around
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the war because she was free from her sight but today with women on social media they're they're
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watching what's happening out there and we're swinging swords with words we're fighting and
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cutting down enemies and idols and they're going oh my gosh don't hurt him that's so rude that's
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so mean and you go well they would have said the same thing had they been on the battlefield watching
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the guy swing the sword and go you you accidentally killed that guy that wasn't actually your enemy or
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Or maybe, you know, you sliced his leg and that he was on your, you know, whatever critique might have flown out.
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But now they're there in the battlefield of the public square.
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We need to make sure that it doesn't shape the men.
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So I think they're looking for permission to go, hey, there's an old Billy Graham quote from years ago.
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It's something like, you know, the courage of one man strengthens the spines of others.
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and i think that's true is that i think that when we have conversations
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saying hard things it stiffens the spines of younger men that go okay all right i've always
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said this people say you're not convincing anyone you've got to be in the middle you've got to gain
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the middle ground and my line is i'm not here to convince anyone people know the truth i'm here to
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give them permission to say the truth that's all people are looking for permission to say what we
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already believe to be true they just they just for some reason they need the confidence to go
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forth and do it and so that's our role we're not here to convince the masses the masses know what's
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right or wrong we know what's good and evil god imprinted it on our hearts and he gave us the
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commandments to follow we just have to give people permission to do that yeah i think there's a there's
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a real need to um set an example as older men and there i think a lot of the older men you know
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joel and i were talking about this at one point but if your fathers are not honorable then you
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must look to your father's fathers or your father's father's fathers and we need to see and be reminded
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of what masculinity is from previous generations that we might mimic it and just fathers in the
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church that is our role yeah amen yeah and the masses i agree with you i mean that's romans one
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it's romans two the natural law is imprinted on the hearts of men so that even the unbeliever
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condemns himself by sinning against his own conscience
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and what he innately knows to be right and wrong.
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in that vein, one thing that I would say to young men
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is that the masses are not necessary for change.
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the local minority and they still made a change exactly the three percent of the population
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well organized and determined and fearless were able to replace the american flag with a rainbow
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in the course of four decades like how how did that happen right we always we think that that
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the masses you know are setting the course you know that they're determining you know where
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will go next um it's not true i use this you know illustration from time to time it's a bit crude
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but it makes the point clear it's not as though in 1959 when leave it to beaver black and white
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television was a hit tv show that all these you know stay at home desperate housewives of the
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1950s were you know sitting around the living room television watching the show and thinking
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we really love this show but um the problem is there's just not enough butt sex and hollywood
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is virtuous as they were said we don't really want to do that but the customer's always right
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you know capitalism at the end of the day sets the the course and so to our own chagrin we're going
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to add a little bit of slop a little bit of a you know degeneracy goy slop into the mix for these
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desperate housewives so they'll keep watching our show you know we all know that it's that's
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laughable it was exactly the opposite it was the elites said despite what the customer wanted
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despite the masses the elite said we want you to be degenerate right you're not demanding
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degeneracy you don't desire degeneracy they're saying we want degenerate and i want you to be
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like me yes the southwest park clip make it gayer exactly make it gayer and so put a woman in there
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so then they put it in and oh we got some backlash that was a little bit too much so we'll put you
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know a little bit less and you know and like what can we get away with what's cultural subversion
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it's evil yes but my point is it's always leaders it's not whether but which which kind you have
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righteous leaders or you have degenerate ones but leaders lead right this idea so like i'm i'm
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encouraged by a return to nationalism a return to nature a return to religion return to christianity
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all these things tradition are good but if you think that um it's the vanguard it's it's not
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the vanguard so you've both talked about the standard for immigration that was eroded it was
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the same in hollywood there was the hayes code so christians came together and said this is a
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guide for morality if you're going to produce entertainment stick to this you know no one
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screens sex you know right um just very abstract rules about morality that people stuck to
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until a certain demographic got in charge of hollywood and subverted culturally and pushed
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degeneracy so the christians start these standards start these codes but don't hold on to the vanguard
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and let it go every single time to the elites right exactly so my point is um there's nothing
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written in the stars and young men need to hear this they need they can't be bright-eyed and
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bushy-tailed they can't afford to be naive as innocent as does but as shrewd as serpents
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so young men need to be shrewd and they need to be aware of what we're up against they don't need
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to be uh you know just hooked up to the hopium machine um at the same time though they do need
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to have hope um not not disillusionment um and and not naivety but but genuine christian hope
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and the hope is that there's nothing written in the stars that ensures uh that things must continue
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to get worse and worse and worse there's nothing in the scripture that mandates that things have
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to get perpetually worse until christ's return uh and there's nothing you know that's set in the
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sovereignty of god um that that guarantees or at least nothing that's revealed to us that we know
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of as far as we know um things we know how things change they change by a minority that's high
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caliber men uh that's well organized that's relentless and will not back down until they
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ultimately get their way and that pattern um there's nothing that i've come across
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that would indicate that that doesn't work in both directions well there are other cycles of of human
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societies that they rise and they fall and we have um abundance we have degeneracy these these
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patterns are recognizable and western civilization or christendom is on the downward trend of that
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so it may be that things are going to get worse but big picture like we've got to stop thinking
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about our lifetimes and start thinking about god's design and how do we help advance the kingdom even
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for our great great great grandchildren well recovering lost ground is harder than we think
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because it's not just that you need to sustain or maintain what is already yours it is a work
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of recovering what was lost that means that young men need to do extremely difficult things because
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the failures of those that went before him before them and that's why i often say it's either us
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or we force our sons to do this so it's better that it's us and and our sons will have their
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own dragons. They will have their own dragons. So whichever dragon we choose not to slay
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is just one's, you know, because our children's generation will have their own battles.
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And the last thing we want to do is to, on top of their own battles, that they have to fight
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ours as well. Yeah. And so we know that we have a political enemy, a moral enemy, who doesn't
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have, doesn't worship God. And with their free time, they turn politics into their religion.
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And they use that religion as this, you know, when you're at church and when you're hanging out with your children and when you're, you know, working your job, they are collaborating and cultivating and organizing to steal everything from you.
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And so you go, well, how do I have a family, have children, have a job, worship Christ, be a virtuous man, and still have time to take out this enemy?
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Getting married and having children and passing on the faith
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because we're not getting married and not having children.
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And those who are having children are not raising them as a family.
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And so they're going the way of the world instead of the way of Christ.
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And we know, of course, that we acknowledge, us three men,
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acknowledge that it's hard to find a wife right now
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and everybody's testosterone levels are through the floor.
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And so the drive, the fuel that you would typically have to go and find a wife is being self-released on a regular basis for most young men that aren't married.
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And so I just go, yeah, the circumstances are hard.
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But that's what I'm saying is that it is extremely difficult to take back lost ground.
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Like expect it to be harder than the sustaining work that your forefathers had.
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this is to recover the economy of america to recover the political landscape of america to
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recover the religious landscape of america is far more complicated than it was to sustain it
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100 years ago and that's i think the work that um yeah to restore is more difficult than to
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maintain so it's far easier to maintain what you already have established than to rebuild from the
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rebel so that's that's certainly true um but my point is just to say that um that it can be done
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it's uh it's not it's not impossible and it's not even unusually complex it's just simply hard
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it's hard work but it can be done and we've seen it be done we've seen societies burn the
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transgender propaganda we've seen societies burn all the evil books close down the child
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brothels we've seen societies take away the democratic vote after being voted into power
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like these things have been done but they become so taboo that we're not allowed to even think
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about them never mind discuss them right we we've also seen but it's always done without permission
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no i don't even think that's true i think people vote knew what they were voting for
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and got what they voted for retrospectively they've changed their minds but yeah that people
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voted against a vote is that what you're thinking what which which nation are you thinking of why
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one more Germany. Yeah. Well, and I think, you know, we saw this even with Charlie Kirk, right?
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He had an organized will for power and he acquired it, a significant amount of power.
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And he's a case study in what many can do. But I do believe that Christian men need to have an,
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again, Gnostic, for anybody that's been watching these episodes, Gnostic is the idea that
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that spiritual only is good and physical is bad.
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And the kind of divide or divorce of the spiritual
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and the physical is a great tactic of the enemy
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And so the reality of fighting to get the physical back
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That God, Christ, purchased both your body and your soul, which are God's.
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He cares about the earth in which he created, in which he is redeeming.
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There's all of these things that it's not just a spiritual-only kingdom.
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It's a physical kingdom that God is sanctifying through the church.
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We are called to such a time as this for a reason.
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Yeah, I think the post-millennial theology for a lot of people is a lot of the young
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guys that maybe haven't been into some of the eschatology discussions, but having a
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post-millennial hope where the world isn't going to get worse and worse and worse, but
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we actually believe it's going to get better and better and better.
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It doesn't mean that it doesn't have dips and ups and downs as we're climbing up the
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mountain, just like you have the hills that are climbing up the foothills that are climbing
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but over time through the proclamation of the gospel through the the the body of christ which
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is the church uh we expect that christ will be successful in converting his enemy or conquering
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his enemies through conversion and that the gospel is spiritual but it comes into physical
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beings and then it comes out the fingertips of those physical beings into education and into
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politics and into civics and into economics and all of these dimensions and so do we believe the
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world is better uh now than it was 500 years ago i think so i don't um well sorry sorry meaning
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you're looking at this particular moment as a dip i'm saying is that are there more christians
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on the earth today than there were say 500 years ago i think there are um i don't know about that
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are they less organized and maybe less um fruitful as a group maybe um but what i'm saying is that
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the the church continues to grow has it ever been a point where the church is getting smaller
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i don't think the church is getting small i think it's getting bigger and bigger now can it be
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less fruitful or less mature possibly and i think there's seasons that do that i think we're in a
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dip right now if you look at the stock market and you go you see the stock market's going up and
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down but if you zoom out over 50 years you're like oh this thing's trending i think it's a big dip i
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think we talk about the dark ages and that's another subversion i think the dark ages were
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a great christian time yeah one of the best times in human history however now this is the new dark
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age this is the real dark age yeah when we talk about the fact that women are killing since 1970
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more human beings than have ever been killed by men throughout the whole of human history in every
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war plague famine pestilence combined we're killing off we're sacrificing babies to moloch
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it's on a biblical level and not only is it happening but it's acceptable not only is
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acceptable sometimes it's celebrated so this is the darkest time in human history people be like
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yeah we've got plumbing now we've got convenience now yes but we're killing off babies every day
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it's happening right now as we're talking yeah it's dark well and and uh yeah i you know the
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trannies are reading our children stories at the libraries um you know the homosexuals are
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leading in government um pagan immigration is happening everywhere the hindus are sacrificing
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goats and the you know it's everywhere and i go that's what people go yeah why are you so extreme
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dale because we're so superior we think we're in the best time we think of the best people it's
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all this year zero stuff like if i was around when jesus was there of course i wouldn't condemn him
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yeah of course you would because it's your human nature your sinful nature like we look at history
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be like, those Aztecs, what were they doing? Sacrificing babies. We're doing it today and
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we don't recognize it. We don't recognize the evil capacity in ourselves. We're so blinded by our own
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sense of pride. Well, and that's why, again, I'm going to go into this conversation around social
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media. I think it's vastly important that men are on social media. I think it's vastly important
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that women are not on social media. Not that women can't be on social media in the sense that I think
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there are some specific spots for women, like women-only spaces and discussions around older
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women teaching younger women how to love their husbands and love their children. But I think
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that what Satan is doing is that he's making the internet a place of temptation for pornography
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as a way to keep men off of social media and women on it. But women control the narrative
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through social media. And when men are going, oh, my wife's on social media, but I'm not on social
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media. I'm like, dude, the public war for our country and our future is on social media. You
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You think that the conversations that led to any particular war, where'd they start first?
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No, they started at the rumblings of discussions that are happening on social media.
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Encourage your wives not to be on social media.
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Oh, that was a great piece of wisdom on how to be a submissive, joyful wife.
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But outside of that, the vast majority of social media is not good for women.
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And all that happens is men fall into that and men become gossips and men become tempted
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Get on X right now because this is basically the newspaper of the day.
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and when you get to see what's happening around the world it will it'll it'll red pill you right
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it's don't let it black pill you right but it'll red pill you you'll go wow now now i'm because
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people misunderstand i think all three of us they go why are you saying such intense things and i'm
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going do you not see the trannies reading the kids right library books do you not see the abortion
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numbers do you not see the pride flag flying over our nation do you not see these things like
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at what point am i supposed to when am i allowed to be mad like when's the outrage permitted and
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so i think now is the time where you go it's okay to be mad it's you know be angry but do not sin
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which is the very difficult balance of this discussion so i think that's something we all
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should all repent of but we should continue anyway continue trying to be better yeah right
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yeah we try to emulate christ and all of his virtues and in every single attempt we fail
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but then we get back on the horse and try it again so as we seek to love as christ loves
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in any instance when we fail to love christianly and when we fail to love as christ would have us
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we don't say well i'm not able to love the same caliber as christ therefore i'm no longer going
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to try to love right we would never say that so so all all we're suggesting is that i want to flip
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tables and fashion whips i'm called to flip tables christianly like i want to i want to whip money
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changes um just as christ would and when i fail then i want to buckle down and try it again
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i'm into that yeah i think it's it's certainly a time where people want the permission they need
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the example they need the uh passion behind it um and you got to know that you're going to get
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critiqued especially by women you're going to get critiqued by effeminate men right you're going to
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get critiqued by elites. And we have to critique ourselves. We have to rein ourselves in. We have
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to do that whilst also not falling into being the gatekeepers, as people we know have tried
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to gatekeepers. We've got to encourage men to go forth, but also help rein themselves in and
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rein ourselves in. Well, this is, I think, part of the strategy, right? So as much as you want
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to be on the front of the Overton window, you can't be outside of the front of the Overton
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window. And the reason is, is because it's just ineffective strategic leadership is where are
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the, where are the masses and how far ahead do you want to get to the masses? Well, if you get
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too far ahead of the masses, you're not leading the masses, you're leading a minor group. And so
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you also don't want to be too far behind where you're just essentially liked by everybody and
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the fear of man is guiding you. And, um, and so, but there are, are some people that will be
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outside of the Overton window where, yeah, maybe, maybe the conversation will be there in five
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years but it's not there yet and right now you're just looking like an idiot even though maybe some
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of the things you're saying are true um but i'm not sure i'm not i think we always have to be true
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and and if that makes us look like an idiot to the rest of the world that's fine the problem i
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have is when we do it as a reaction or we do it to be an edge lord like that's the boundary we've
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got to always stick for christ and the truth sure and i'm saying is that obviously righteous
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provocation is righteous and good um and you should speak for the truth and stand for the
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truth no matter what circumstances but i think as leaders we need to figure out where's that spot
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right ride that line and slowly we should be into overton window shifting work and it's it's it's
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happening which is good yeah we should but there are different people are different some people
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are going to smash the door down so others can walk through it right different people are on
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the team and part of it has to do with personality and gifting and those things part of it also has
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to do a vocation so part of the difficulty that all three of us face is that long before being
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you know influencers or whatever you want to call it we're actually ministers and ministers don't
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really have the prerogative of not speaking the truth wherever it may be found so if you're a
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young man and you're listening to us and you feel the lord calling you to a vocation of politics
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for instance like you want to be a politician then there's a reasonable argument to be made
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without compromise to christian virtue for hiding your power levels there's a reasonable argument
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to be made for holding back at some points for some temporary moment of time in order to achieve
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a a larger more effective outcome but the minister doesn't have that luxury that's that's i think the
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difference is you know i a lot of times i'll have people say like joel but like why don't you know
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why you would be so much more effective if you if you simply narrowed your focus and were choosing
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to fight on only one front calm down on that particular issue exactly so they'll say like
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you know joel like you actually have a lot of support uh when it comes to fighting against uh
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the judeo-christian nonsense uh why don't you just stick to that right because there's all these
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people who agree with you i get the opposite it's like you're great on islam why do you have to talk
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about the jews exactly exactly so people say why don't you just fight on the front of you know
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against the judeo whatever like all these people are agreeing with you and then the moment you
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start to get critical mass you offend half of them by saying something about feminism
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right because like i'll be talking about you know the you know the whole judeo thing
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and half of the hoorahs and you know the cheerleading is from women first time i got
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cancelled in this country was for they invited me over to speak on critical theories and i did
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they thought i'd speak mostly on race probably because i'm brown that's a racist assumption on
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their part but i spoke on feminism the critical theory that has invaded conservatives i said
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something along the lines of a woman can no more become a priest as a man can become a mother
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common sense christian value we had female pastors walking out as i'm quoting from the scriptures
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like that's how you know pervasive this is yeah so my point is it depends on calling if you
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do feel called to the ministry yeah um then you will be fighting on multiple fronts because
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you you must fight wherever there's an attack and we're being attacked on multiple fronts i wish
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that our enemy would be so courteous as to line up his troops and only attack on one field but he
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doesn't fight fair and so he's attacking us from the north and the south and the east and the west
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and some of the attacks are calculated and organized and others are guerrilla warfare
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and subversive and you know all these different things and so the minister um so it has to be
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willing to to mount a defense um at every point where he's being attacked and my point is that
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in that sense the ministers um i think have you know they don't have the luxury but they do have
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the obligation to be you know a front line um the the ones who are on the team outside perhaps of
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the overton window who are pulling and then there are others you know that are perhaps perhaps called
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to business or to politics or to some other field that can be inside pushing you know and um and
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working together as a team yeah so yeah we know that pastors are the last generalists in a
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specialized world that pastors are one of the last generalists that we need to know a little about
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everything because the scriptures speak about everything yeah so we need to bring all of christ
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for all of life in every dimension of of the sphere of of life and when i think about you
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have a variety of people this is the problem right is that you have these maybe soft people
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that are in lower echelons of the christian discussion in america and i recognize that
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there's an importance maybe they're moving people from from you know a very dark and sinful life
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just into phase one and god has a mosaic he has a body which is it's not there's dimension right
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and then you have people that maybe are to our left that are moving people from their left
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towards the right and that continues to go on and it is it's also why i don't condemn people
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to my right because there are people that are more right than i am um and if you can defend
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their positions biblically or defend them with virtue and christian righteousness i think that
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they're they're there um but there is a mosaic and i think the the body of christ proves that
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we're a flock we're a building we're a we're a bride we're an organism that's multifaceted
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and there is people in every part of the body that are moving people along this journey i'm not
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in many different ways, and we need to appreciate
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We have to be forgiving of people who aren't with us yet,
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I get this a lot from people who are further along than I am.
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They're like, you're not quite here on this yet.
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but we've got to all bring people with us if you turn people away you're actually rejecting soldiers
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for the fight yeah i i and again the pastor does i've often but not generals right i feel like
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that's part of trump's problem is it's not that he's a jerk i think he's actually far too kind
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he's actually not too slow but too quick to forgive and it's one thing to forgive and to invite
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but it's another to forgive invite and immediately appoint in high positions
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of leadership uh somebody who was your enemy 15 minutes prior that's i you know or just because
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they're beautiful women so there's so it's come join the team but you don't get to be star player
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right you don't get to be the quarterback so i think that pastors also struggle with this reality
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of, shouldn't you be just talking about the gospel?
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Shouldn't you not be talking about these issues?
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in talking about strictly theological doctrines
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and sticking mostly to the historic Christian faith,
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I think, again, is a privilege of a victorious civilization.
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because I know I have good godly men from my church in those positions. And I can sit and
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have more conversations around some of the deeper theological dimensions of the gospel.
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One of my favorite books is Political Sermons of the American Founding Era. It's a two-volume set,
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and it shows these pastors that are willing to speak and having to speak on these political
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engagements of the day. And I think as Christians, we need to realize that this is a moment for us
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We don't have many Christian voices in the public square.
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where are the flock gonna, where are they gonna go?
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unless people know what they're being saved from.
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We have to talk about mass migration and replacement
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because people don't know what's good and evil anymore.
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is because if we're not there as Christian men,
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or non-Christian voices for Christian answers.
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But then if you have Christians that are saying,
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oh you shouldn't be talking about these things well where are you going to go in order to hear
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the answers the christian answers the biblical answers yeah so so we do we need we need christian
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ministers in that fight by the way whatever ben shapiro is using on his eyebrows i want some for
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my mustache fair yeah uh there has to be a voice um one of the critiques that i i'll get sometimes
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is uh you know but why um why did you rebuke that person you know as harshly as you did or this that
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or the other um just one piece of free advice uh a conviction that i've come to is uh social media
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is the equivalent of the public square today and you know people often they'll say okay i recognize
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that jesus had sharp rhetoric that he reserved for elites and leaders like he's you know speak
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to the pharisees in a certain manner your children of your father the devil he was a liar since the
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beginning murderer since the beginning when he lies he speaks his native tongue you're a chip
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off the old block you bear a striking resemblance to your father the devil or your whitewashed
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tombs right you're pretty and bleached on the outside but the inside that smells like death
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there's a rotting corpse or um you know you travel you know land and sea half the world to
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make a proselyte and when you do you you make him you know twice the son of the devil that you are
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um all these different things you brood of vipers you know the multiple different examples um and
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i'm just starting with the greater to the lesser so that i don't have to you know obviously elijah
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did the same thing like many of the prophets did the same thing but but jesus being the supreme
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example right but what i'll get the critique is yes i recognize the serrated edge the sharp
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point in rhetoric uh even a biblical category for mocking at times right um but jesus reserved this
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type of rhetoric for leaders yeah and i see you doing it you know on social media and and my
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my counter to that is um that if a woman is um is spouting nonsense and things that uh that
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ultimately um are deceitful and subversive and and destructive to western civilization and the
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church in particular um and she has 80 000 followers and she's a leader you know people
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would say but what biblical example do you have of you know jesus using this kind of language
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towards a woman and i would simply respond and say what biblical example do you have
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of a woman who had 80 000 followers in the day of jesus i think discernment comes into it this
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is something i've been working on lately there are sometimes we need to publicly publicly rebuke
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public heresy error or sin right but sometimes we need to privately rebuke it yes that finding
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that balance is hard you know just last week there was a lot of evangelicals in the white house
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praying over the president all of them zionists all of them in liberal or some form of liberal
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theology and the outrage on social media was like these people are heretics you know burn in hell
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kind of get them out whereas i'm like okay well we have a white house faith office for the first
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time in this country's history that's a good thing the president's hearing jesus christ name
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every single day that's a good thing and through not having a hostile relationship i was able to
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speak directly with the head of the faith office and say could you perhaps make sure there's a
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catholic involved in the prayer with the president next time maybe bishop strickland you know someone
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who's orthodox who's sound who's not going to be wet and weak and feeble and her response was
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actually that's you know a good response and uh we'll try and we're not against catholicism we'll
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try and add some of that balance so we're able to make positive changes sometimes with honey over
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that if somebody has thrown their hat in the ring
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because of just the unique nature of social media there really is no longer um the category of you
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know well you're publicly using sharp rhetoric against uh a nobody like okay i mean if the
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person has 17 followers or something then then that might fit but in the case of you know well
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this person is not a leader they're not uh holding religious office or civil office you know and it's
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just a poor sweet woman okay but if she has 250 000 followers she has asserted herself into a
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position of public influence you may or may not choose to use certain rhetoric but in terms of
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the principle of whether or not it's allowed it is allowed it is well if she's also inserted
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herself into a masculine space right and put a dagger in her hand and she's out there slicing
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people including you you go well i have a woman out here who's now a leader who's now slicing at
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me who's now hurting my reputation or lying or sinning about my particular positions and i might
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by grace because a godly man would just not say anything for a bit but if it continues on and it
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continues on. And every few comments, this happens. And then there's a retweet and there's
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a repost and there's another slandering, another slander. At some point, again, it's selective
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outrage. At some point, if you go back up to this woman and you go, you know, you push back with a
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rebuke, a harsh rebuke. Everybody gets frustrated about that harsh rebuke when they don't get
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frustrated about the fact that a woman is in the battle of the public space, fighting with men,
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calling pastors and older men heretics yeah but i think as men we try to point out why that is a
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bad example of that female being in that position rather than attacking the female the woman herself
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as men we don't want to be attacking women but we do want to point out why they shouldn't be in
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that position or why they're making mistakes yeah so there are me it depends okay i think that there
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is a context for a prophet directly speaking to jezebel and calling her publicly what she is
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so um if a woman is going to behave as jezebel publicly in a man's space
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um then i i think that she can get the jezebel treatment again i think you have the prerogative
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there are times where honey may do more than vinegar um or you know i think of the apostle
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paul as he's being you know followed incessantly for three days by this slave girl who's constantly
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you know trying to sabotage his his ministry and eventually you know he has it and he stands
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and turns around and rebukes the demon and you know and then immediately you know it's it's not
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her or the demon that is blamed but paul you know um and you know that'll preach you know why is he
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blamed for economic reasons he disrupted their capitalist pursuit of using the demon as a
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soothsayer in order to predict the future and make a profit um and you know women being involved
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in social media is incredibly profitable and so to turn uh to you know the incessant demon
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possessed woman who's been following you for three days or you know in some cases three years
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shouting at you and distracting from your ministry and turning people against you and to turn and say
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demon silence um you know you'll you'll be surprised often by uh the people who get upset
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many of them are not upset out of some feigned chivalry because it's a woman that you've just
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criticized but they're actually um the profiteers who were benefiting off of you know and you just
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you just disrupted their commerce you just said that women shouldn't be on social media are you
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kidding me do you know how many billions of dollars you're threatening right now that's
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yeah and i think that it doesn't mean that yeah we don't have the correct rhetoric around
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how to talk to women that's the average christian woman that's on social media then
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maybe asked a question with a little bit of a bite you go hey well let me give you an honest
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answer here let me try to win you through through this question uh if it was a an honest question
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you know you have the honest and dishonest skeptics yeah but it's usually bad faith yeah
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usually bad faith but i try to be uh if i can um more patient with women than i am with men
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certainly and i think that's a christian virtue but again we are talking about the public square
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and we are in a fight for ideological theological warfare and it's it's uh it's not the place
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in most circumstances for women to be out there we don't see it in the scriptures we don't see it
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throughout history and all of a sudden we see it in mass now true yeah it's difficult but you're
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right calvin um it's case by case and you you know each individual reserves the prerogative
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of exercising discernment is this a honey situation or a vinegar yeah the only reason i bring it up
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because i'm worried that the red-pilled army are becoming anti-women rather than pro-masculinity
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and that there is a very thin line there that we're treading you're right yeah you're right i
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mean there are plenty of men today that um that really just hate women um there's a difference
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like i you know we said previously between being a sexist which i wholeheartedly support and being
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a true misogynist that actually hates or despises women we want to take women's votes away because
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we love women and we love our society and we want to be providing and protecting for women
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not because we hate them that distinction is important for a lot of people right it's because
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we love women and we know that when women can vote um they vote for being raped yeah well they
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also and they're they're easily manipulated by evil men yeah yeah and so we it's our duty to
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protect them by eliminating the opportunity to vote you want to get to my wife you have to go
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through me and you're not going to get her emotions manipulated you're going to have to
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manipulate my emotions and i'm less likely to be manipulated um and that's the threat is that they
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can't control men the way they can control women which is the reason why they want the women vote
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so practical solutions men have to lead the way men need to get involved social media is not the
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end but it's a means it's one of the places where men can be proactive actually standing in the
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public square exercising courage speaking out um they'll have to do it without permission
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um the you know they're going to have to be willing um to to be active despite criticism
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and uh and certain slander and accusations um they can't they can men can't lead
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Either you're standing or running for office,
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So doing these things, being willing to be criticized,
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um if you're a minister then you don't really have the luxury of being a specialist
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wherever wherever we're being currently attacked wherever the church finds opposition then you have
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to be willing to mount a defense as a pastor there's a sense of being a generalist and so
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you're going to have to fight on multiple fronts which will make you less of a populist figure
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um but uh perhaps a vanguard a thought leader that can be referenced by others who come and
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and bring up the rear if you're a politician it may be permissible for a time to pick one issue
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knowing that there are many others that matter um for instance you know for the longest time we've
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had, you know, single issue voters and some single issue, you know, politicians. They weren't
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necessarily elected, but at least ran on ending abortion. And I think that we have entered an
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era where I think it would be from a Christian standpoint permissible for someone in the realm
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of politics to be a single issue politician on the issue of immigration. And it doesn't mean that
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he doesn't care about abortion or that he doesn't care about you know same-sex marriage being an
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affront an abomination um but i think the politician has a certain prerogative that the
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pastor does not he actually can choose that william wilberforce you know he gave his life
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for one issue i'm sure that there were other issues that that he also thought were important
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but he dedicated himself to dying on one singular hill and um and i think that the politician has
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that available to him in in a way that the pastor does not we need more christian politicians i
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guess that that's what i'm building up to is i think ultimately things change not necessarily
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because of the masses but because of the elite men should pursue um elite status not every man
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can be. God hasn't gifted everyone in that way. Every man will be a leader, whether it be in his
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home or whatever, what have you. But men who are particularly intelligent and gifted and have,
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you know, a unique set of resources and skills and those things, I think should in this day and age
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aspire towards being an aristocrat, being an elite, being influential.
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And that means often putting your head down and hiding your power levels for a season
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in order to be credentialed, going and getting the credentials, knowing that you are to the
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right of that particular institution um and so playing ball playing the long game um and then
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fighting on one issue even though you know the truth is maybe there's 17 different issues that
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uh that you hold dear um i think being shrewd being wise being strategic i think that's the
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way that change occurs it occurs from a well-organized minority that's highly gifted
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highly intelligent um and shrewd i know i think i think uh the strategy there of being okay with
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it's not going to be easy it's going to be hard it's not complex um it's not difficult to
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comprehend it might be difficult to swallow it's it's hard work um but we do i we i would
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love for christian and i think the only reason we are seeing some pastors step into the political
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sphere at such a degree i mean we even have dusty deavers and he's kind of holding a two office
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situation with being a pastor and being a senator yeah um it's because of a lack of men stepping in
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and so we we do we need that right there dusty deavers is a great example like i would never
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counter that it's like the sons of isikar they knew the times and what israel ought to do
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um i would say that that is um something that's permissible in a timely fashion yeah i'm just
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We only consider it standing in the next general election,
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In a timeless sense, we would love to see ministers
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strictly as ministers, Christian princes strictly,
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but in a moment of desperate times call for desperate measures.