The NXR Podcast - THE SPECIAL - Stop Waiting - No One Is Coming To Save You

00:00:00.000 Big news. NXR Studios' brand new website is now officially live. Go to newchristianright.com,

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00:00:13.220 2026. We are hosting new shows. We have the Monday and Friday live stream, but we're now

00:00:19.840 condensing it to just a weekly show on Mondays, and it's going to be called Christian Nationalism

00:00:26.040 Weekly, hosted by myself and my co-host Wesley Todd and Antonio Griffith. But then on Tuesdays,

00:00:32.900 we're inviting a new host to the NXR Network, Dale Partridge. On Tuesdays, we'll be leading a show

00:00:40.000 called American Grit. Then on Wednesday, we're going to keep our flagship show where I do the

00:00:45.640 long-form interview with notable guests on the Christian right. It's called the NXR Special.

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00:00:55.860 It's called The Next Crusade.

00:00:58.460 And then lastly, one third and final new host joining our team, Harrison Smith.

00:01:03.840 You might recognize him from working with Alex Jones in Infowars.

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00:01:30.220 We have sold thousands of copies just in Q1 of 2026.

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00:01:44.080 People recognize that we need America first.

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00:01:49.440 that we're in a stranglehold by Israel,

00:01:52.360 and there's a problem in our churches in America.

00:01:55.760 Dispensational Zionism has a stranglehold on evangelicals.

00:02:00.040 So this book, The Hyphenated Heresy, Judeo-Christianity,

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00:02:36.980 July, but again, it is available for pre-order now. It's called White Genocide, The Criminal

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00:03:05.000 It's called 19 Reasons to Repeal the 19th Amendment. Shipping in September, but pre-orders

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00:03:27.360 All four of these books are the conversations that a lot of guys on the conservative right

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00:03:37.540 standing up against anti-white hatred with our book, White Genocide, stopping the Islamic invasion

00:03:45.020 with the silent jihad and getting rid of toxic Zionism with our first publication, The Hyphenated

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00:04:18.520 And here's basically the thought behind it. I've been told by a lot of people that anti-Semitism

00:04:24.340 is on the rise in America and it's very, very dangerous. And so I wanted to do my part and

00:04:30.920 shut down the anti-Semitic rise in America. And I thought to myself, well, what have people been

00:04:37.140 saying to me my entire life is one of the most virtuous, valuable strengths in America? And I

00:04:44.900 mean, look no further than diversity, right? Diversity is our greatest strength here in

00:04:49.900 America. That's what I've been told over and over for years and years now. And then I started

00:04:54.920 thinking, well, who is our greatest ally when you think about America? And certainly we've been told

00:05:01.100 again and again, it's Israel. And so I thought if we want to stop anti-Semitism, then we should stop

00:05:06.980 being so selfish as Americans, especially as Christians. We should be sharing. We should be,

00:05:13.420 let me say it this way, we should be demanding, insisting that America's greatest strength

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00:06:18.940 Radical Christian nationalist pastor, Joel Webben.

00:06:23.580 Joel Webben?

00:06:24.400 Joel Webben.

00:06:24.960 I'm going to talk about Joel Webben.

00:06:26.800 Joel Webben is an accident.

00:06:48.940 All right. So now we're going to talk about solutions. What do we do? We discussed at the

00:06:54.880 end of our prior episode that a lot of what's required is political will, not just hearts for

00:07:01.960 revival, but the stomachs for revival. We have a rising new generation that is angry, in my

00:07:12.380 assessment, not nearly angry enough. And certainly that indignation has to be a righteous

00:07:18.460 indignation it has to be coupled with virtue so my problem is i see uh not that i see too much

00:07:25.460 anger but i just don't see quite enough anger and i see a huge deficit of righteous anger i see

00:07:35.660 too much vice not enough virtue we should be prudent but we shouldn't be overcautious

00:07:41.960 i was talking to you guys the other night about um when don lemon and his liberals raided a church

00:07:47.520 I put up a picture on social media of me in my church holding my AR-15.

00:07:51.520 The message there being, you're not raiding our church.

00:07:53.200 We're here to worship God.

00:07:54.100 If you come and try to disturb that, we'll kick you out. 0.92

00:07:56.280 It's not to say I'm going to go out shooting people.

00:07:57.620 It's to say we will defend ourselves and our liberty to worship our one true living God

00:08:02.140 at all costs.

00:08:03.880 I got a call from a very senior cleric.

00:08:06.000 He said, is that wise?

00:08:07.440 And I'm like, is it illegal?

00:08:08.980 Is it immoral?

00:08:09.780 Is it heretical? 1.00

00:08:10.660 If it's no to all three, then yes, it's wise. 0.90

00:08:12.520 It's fine.

00:08:13.460 But we want to be overly cautious of appearing nice to the nice world.

00:08:17.280 The world isn't nice, so why should we appear nice?

00:08:19.740 We should try to be good.

00:08:20.840 We should try to be righteous.

00:08:22.160 But we're always afraid.

00:08:23.900 What would our forebears do? 0.91

00:08:25.240 We'd be following the Christian princes on horseback with a spear or a sword, 1.00

00:08:28.600 going into battle to take out these Jewish paedophilic elite. 1.00

00:08:32.320 What are we doing? 1.00

00:08:32.940 Again, not enough.

00:08:34.160 We don't have the Christian princes, but we are faith leaders.

00:08:37.700 so our job is to catechize is to is to form train educate the next generation so that they are

00:08:44.280 equipped to fight theologically and intellectually yes but it may come to fighting physically too

00:08:51.320 yes yeah i think part of the problem is um in order to make changes you need power 0.50

00:08:58.020 and all power in our country currently is female adjacent so part of the problem is that everything 1.00

00:09:05.580 is feminine coded yeah because of democracy uh it requires that uh in order to achieve any any 0.99

00:09:15.040 measure of influence or authority whatsoever you have to have at least half of your approval

00:09:22.160 come from a group of people who uh hate aggression yeah insist on niceness yeah

00:09:29.860 how is that going to work well you have uh helen is her last name hunt i don't remember maybe that's

00:09:35.960 the movie star i can't remember but she's she did a feminization of institutions she gave a really

00:09:42.220 great talk on that yes yes yeah she she gave a good talk on when you have the feminization of

00:09:48.260 institutions or the infiltration of institutions through uh through women you essentially change 1.00

00:09:54.260 the culture of institutions, that produces circumstances where masculinity dies. And in 1.00

00:10:02.400 order for survival, you need to appease the feminine virtues and desires. And so I think 1.00

00:10:10.820 what we have right now is we have what I would call like selective outrage. And this is the

00:10:15.900 inconsistency of our outrage. So we'll be very angry about certain things and not angry about

00:10:20.860 other things and there's a lack of of um unequal tables of justice or weights of justice on

00:10:27.840 particular issues um i was in a conversation talking about how they made the um joan of arc

00:10:39.300 character was to be a black woman oh yeah yeah and i somebody said to me like why are you even

00:10:46.720 talking about this right um and they're a white person why are you even talking about this

00:10:51.820 or um snape was uh a black casted as a black character i'm like this is an english story

00:10:58.900 the text says that his like pale face in the actual manuscript of the book

00:11:03.200 and there was frustration it was select white selective white outrage around frustration and

00:11:09.320 i go well are you are you upset about the discussion going on around this you know character

00:11:16.660 uh this revisionist history uh pattern that we're seeing in hollywood but you're not upset

00:11:23.540 about the overarching meta-narrative of replacing historic figures with non-historic realities

00:11:35.680 are you are you not upset about the national dishonesty or the media dishonesty around these

00:11:41.380 issues it's kind of like if you have a bully and he's poking somebody and he's poking somebody

00:11:47.040 and then the bully the little kid finally pushes back and then you yell at the little kid hey why

00:11:52.080 are you pushing back it's like well for the last several decades we've had this constant revisionist

00:11:59.540 history, pushed at us on every possible desire. And so I think that outrage needs to be consistent.

00:12:09.700 It needs to be judicial. It needs to be virtuous. It needs to be Christian. It needs to be righteous.

00:12:14.660 But how do we get there? I think that's the question about what are you allowed to be upset

00:12:19.320 about? How do you temper it? Because I think a lot of young men are either blackpilled on something

00:12:24.300 or they're, they're just, we know the common reality of a young man is to not manage prudently

00:12:32.140 his temper. And so how do you, how do you look at them? We're older men now that we're, you know,

00:12:39.320 40 and above, or Jill's about to be there. But how do we get these young men who are 20

00:12:46.620 to be outraged righteously but also not extend into folly i think that's a that's a big question

00:12:55.280 um i don't know if anybody's going to have a great answer on it but i think it's it's the

00:12:59.980 ongoing generational discussion yeah i don't i don't see any path um aside from

00:13:09.140 like the full removal of feminism um like i i just think so long as we have democracy coupled

00:13:18.880 coupled with universal suffrage um you will constantly be going against the grain you're

00:13:25.480 constantly going to have half of the population voting for temperance tolerance yes you can't

00:13:34.300 suicidal empathy yeah um and so do we not understand at this point what it's like to

00:13:41.320 even be in a masculine culture because right now everything that is actually just masculine right

00:13:46.900 seems extreme because of our feminine sensitivities it has to be either or it's binary it's either

00:13:52.740 masculine or it's feminine we seem to think we can have this balance but it just ends up being

00:13:56.100 feminine right so we've got to remove the feminism and that means that men have to stand up and take

00:14:01.200 ownership again take responsibility again it means we can't wait for women women to say we

00:14:05.380 don't want the vote anymore we're going to take the vote from them and that's the that's the 1.00

00:14:08.480 clincher there that's the problem that's the hard bit yes yeah just at the end of the day

00:14:14.540 it has to be um there's always an aristocracy whether formal or informal there's always an

00:14:22.100 elite class and um i'm constantly reminded of uh the passage in the gospels that said jesus did

00:14:30.040 not entrust himself to men for he knew what was in men's hearts um you know there are moments

00:14:35.700 throughout the earthly ministry of christ where the people uh wanted to crown him king right where

00:14:42.200 the the people were very much uh pro jesus he was a populist figure um there are moments where

00:14:48.920 the people wanted to kill him as well um but at the end of the day uh what wins out is not uh the

00:14:56.740 people like the elites tried to kill him the pharisees sadducees religious rulers but did not

00:15:03.700 on several occasions in the in the highest sense because it was not yet his time um but in the

00:15:11.860 temporal human level uh they didn't and the text will say because of you know for fear of the people

00:15:19.500 because jesus was popular he was he was liked by the common man but my point is that even the case

00:15:27.180 of christ the people generally liked him they were fickle and went back and forth but generally

00:15:34.140 liked him and at moments wanted to uh to crown him king the elites although in terms of the numerical

00:15:42.160 comparison were were an extreme minority um you know spoil alert if you haven't uh familiarized

00:15:52.120 yourself with the story the elites win uh jesus is ultimately put to death the elites beat out

00:15:59.440 the people and my point i guess is that um i don't think you're going to get people to vote away

00:16:07.120 democracy or vote away you're but it does happen it it can but my but my point is that i'm agreeing

00:16:16.300 with you i think that it has to be taken i think that men virtuous ambitious masculine men have to

00:16:26.200 climb the ladder of power yeah and forcefully uh take away from the people that which is their

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00:17:41.720 It's Joel 20 exclamation point, all caps, Joel 20 exclamation point.

00:17:47.140 And I think this is an important point.

00:17:49.200 And maybe what we're doing here is those young men often, as the case is for older men and younger men, are looking for permission.

00:17:57.140 a lot of those guys have been told by the gatekeepers don't do that yeah but i think that

00:18:03.280 if you can look at the man and go do it and do it righteously do it and do it virtuously uh but do

00:18:09.720 it and and by the way when you're swinging a sword there's always casualties there's always a reality

00:18:16.240 that comes into play with war um this is something you know what i what i often see about with uh

00:18:24.260 social media i'm out there saying hard things you guys are saying hard things and it's during the

00:18:30.500 crusades your husband would go out and he would fight a battle and the women didn't see it right

00:18:36.200 and the women couldn't watch it and so they come back the men come back and they they they're that

00:18:41.180 loving husband again that loving father again but the woman has no opinion or um discussion around

00:18:49.000 the war because she was free from her sight but today with women on social media they're they're 0.66

00:18:54.900 watching what's happening out there and we're swinging swords with words we're fighting and

00:19:00.040 cutting down enemies and idols and they're going oh my gosh don't hurt him that's so rude that's

00:19:05.880 so mean and you go well they would have said the same thing had they been on the battlefield watching

00:19:09.900 the guy swing the sword and go you you accidentally killed that guy that wasn't actually your enemy or

00:19:15.800 Or maybe, you know, you sliced his leg and that he was on your, you know, whatever critique might have flown out.

00:19:21.460 But now they're there in the battlefield of the public square.

00:19:25.940 And it can't shape the men.

00:19:29.500 We need to make sure that it doesn't shape the men.

00:19:32.180 So I think they're looking for permission to go, hey, there's an old Billy Graham quote from years ago.

00:19:37.120 It's something like, you know, the courage of one man strengthens the spines of others.

00:19:40.920 and i think that's true is that i think that when we have conversations

00:19:44.900 saying hard things it stiffens the spines of younger men that go okay all right i've always

00:19:53.020 said this people say you're not convincing anyone you've got to be in the middle you've got to gain

00:19:55.720 the middle ground and my line is i'm not here to convince anyone people know the truth i'm here to

00:20:00.420 give them permission to say the truth that's all people are looking for permission to say what we

00:20:04.440 already believe to be true they just they just for some reason they need the confidence to go

00:20:08.420 forth and do it and so that's our role we're not here to convince the masses the masses know what's

00:20:12.060 right or wrong we know what's good and evil god imprinted it on our hearts and he gave us the

00:20:15.540 commandments to follow we just have to give people permission to do that yeah i think there's a there's

00:20:20.800 a real need to um set an example as older men and there i think a lot of the older men you know

00:20:28.300 joel and i were talking about this at one point but if your fathers are not honorable then you

00:20:34.440 must look to your father's fathers or your father's father's fathers and we need to see and be reminded

00:20:40.720 of what masculinity is from previous generations that we might mimic it and just fathers in the

00:20:46.620 church that is our role yeah amen yeah and the masses i agree with you i mean that's romans one

00:20:53.360 it's romans two the natural law is imprinted on the hearts of men so that even the unbeliever

00:20:59.580 condemns himself by sinning against his own conscience

00:21:04.240 and what he innately knows to be right and wrong.

00:21:08.500 All of that is true.

00:21:10.200 At the same time, the masses,

00:21:13.720 in terms of giving permission to young men,

00:21:16.220 in that vein, one thing that I would say to young men

00:21:18.980 is that the masses are not necessary for change.

00:21:22.580 You don't actually need the masses.

00:21:27.960 The liberals had a vocal madrug.

00:21:29.420 the local minority and they still made a change exactly the three percent of the population

00:21:33.960 well organized and determined and fearless were able to replace the american flag with a rainbow

00:21:42.380 in the course of four decades like how how did that happen right we always we think that that

00:21:50.080 the masses you know are setting the course you know that they're determining you know where

00:21:56.320 will go next um it's not true i use this you know illustration from time to time it's a bit crude

00:22:04.000 but it makes the point clear it's not as though in 1959 when leave it to beaver black and white

00:22:10.160 television was a hit tv show that all these you know stay at home desperate housewives of the

00:22:16.680 1950s were you know sitting around the living room television watching the show and thinking 0.97

00:22:22.200 we really love this show but um the problem is there's just not enough butt sex and hollywood 0.95

00:22:31.620 is virtuous as they were said we don't really want to do that but the customer's always right 0.88

00:22:38.420 you know capitalism at the end of the day sets the the course and so to our own chagrin we're going

00:22:46.280 to add a little bit of slop a little bit of a you know degeneracy goy slop into the mix for these

00:22:52.980 desperate housewives so they'll keep watching our show you know we all know that it's that's

00:22:58.860 laughable it was exactly the opposite it was the elites said despite what the customer wanted

00:23:06.480 despite the masses the elite said we want you to be degenerate right you're not demanding

00:23:12.240 degeneracy you don't desire degeneracy they're saying we want degenerate and i want you to be 0.98

00:23:17.140 like me yes the southwest park clip make it gayer exactly make it gayer and so put a woman in there 0.93

00:23:23.640 so then they put it in and oh we got some backlash that was a little bit too much so we'll put you

00:23:29.440 know a little bit less and you know and like what can we get away with what's cultural subversion

00:23:34.660 it's evil yes but my point is it's always leaders it's not whether but which which kind you have

00:23:40.820 righteous leaders or you have degenerate ones but leaders lead right this idea so like i'm i'm

00:23:47.140 encouraged by a return to nationalism a return to nature a return to religion return to christianity

00:23:54.920 all these things tradition are good but if you think that um it's the vanguard it's it's not

00:24:04.300 the vanguard so you've both talked about the standard for immigration that was eroded it was

00:24:09.060 the same in hollywood there was the hayes code so christians came together and said this is a

00:24:12.760 guide for morality if you're going to produce entertainment stick to this you know no one

00:24:16.140 screens sex you know right um just very abstract rules about morality that people stuck to

00:24:21.640 until a certain demographic got in charge of hollywood and subverted culturally and pushed

00:24:26.560 degeneracy so the christians start these standards start these codes but don't hold on to the vanguard

00:24:31.600 and let it go every single time to the elites right exactly so my point is um there's nothing 0.87

00:24:39.060 written in the stars and young men need to hear this they need they can't be bright-eyed and

00:24:44.380 bushy-tailed they can't afford to be naive as innocent as does but as shrewd as serpents

00:24:48.820 so young men need to be shrewd and they need to be aware of what we're up against they don't need 0.98

00:24:53.820 to be uh you know just hooked up to the hopium machine um at the same time though they do need

00:25:02.000 to have hope um not not disillusionment um and and not naivety but but genuine christian hope

00:25:11.460 and the hope is that there's nothing written in the stars that ensures uh that things must continue

00:25:19.200 to get worse and worse and worse there's nothing in the scripture that mandates that things have

00:25:24.180 to get perpetually worse until christ's return uh and there's nothing you know that's set in the

00:25:29.980 sovereignty of god um that that guarantees or at least nothing that's revealed to us that we know

00:25:36.100 of as far as we know um things we know how things change they change by a minority that's high

00:25:44.840 caliber men uh that's well organized that's relentless and will not back down until they

00:25:53.540 ultimately get their way and that pattern um there's nothing that i've come across

00:26:00.640 that would indicate that that doesn't work in both directions well there are other cycles of of human

00:26:06.840 societies that they rise and they fall and we have um abundance we have degeneracy these these

00:26:12.920 patterns are recognizable and western civilization or christendom is on the downward trend of that

00:26:17.140 so it may be that things are going to get worse but big picture like we've got to stop thinking

00:26:22.500 about our lifetimes and start thinking about god's design and how do we help advance the kingdom even

00:26:27.880 for our great great great grandchildren well recovering lost ground is harder than we think

00:26:36.680 because it's not just that you need to sustain or maintain what is already yours it is a work

00:26:44.420 of recovering what was lost that means that young men need to do extremely difficult things because

00:26:52.340 the failures of those that went before him before them and that's why i often say it's either us

00:26:56.840 or we force our sons to do this so it's better that it's us and and our sons will have their

00:27:04.040 own dragons. They will have their own dragons. So whichever dragon we choose not to slay

00:27:07.820 is just one's, you know, because our children's generation will have their own battles.

00:27:15.280 And the last thing we want to do is to, on top of their own battles, that they have to fight

00:27:20.260 ours as well. Yeah. And so we know that we have a political enemy, a moral enemy, who doesn't

00:27:28.160 have, doesn't worship God. And with their free time, they turn politics into their religion.

00:27:34.040 And they use that religion as this, you know, when you're at church and when you're hanging out with your children and when you're, you know, working your job, they are collaborating and cultivating and organizing to steal everything from you.

00:27:53.040 And so you go, well, how do I have a family, have children, have a job, worship Christ, be a virtuous man, and still have time to take out this enemy?

00:28:03.140 And I think that's the conversation.

00:28:04.500 But part of that is the process.

00:28:05.480 Getting married and having children and passing on the faith

00:28:07.480 is part of that process of winning back.

00:28:09.320 Yes, yes.

00:28:09.860 We're dying out as a people

00:28:10.960 because we're not getting married and not having children. 0.96

00:28:13.140 And those who are having children are not raising them as a family.

00:28:15.680 And so they're going the way of the world instead of the way of Christ. 0.92

00:28:17.800 And we know, of course, that we acknowledge, us three men,

00:28:20.780 acknowledge that it's hard to find a wife right now

00:28:22.840 because everybody's a feminist 0.99

00:28:23.880 and everybody's testosterone levels are through the floor. 1.00

00:28:29.620 And you have porn in your pocket.

00:28:31.660 And so the drive, the fuel that you would typically have to go and find a wife is being self-released on a regular basis for most young men that aren't married.

00:28:44.020 And so I just go, yeah, the circumstances are hard.

00:28:47.080 But that's what I'm saying is that it is extremely difficult to take back lost ground.

00:28:52.700 Like expect it to be harder than the sustaining work that your forefathers had.

00:28:58.260 this is to recover the economy of america to recover the political landscape of america to

00:29:03.880 recover the religious landscape of america is far more complicated than it was to sustain it

00:29:09.800 100 years ago and that's i think the work that um yeah to restore is more difficult than to

00:29:16.760 maintain so it's far easier to maintain what you already have established than to rebuild from the

00:29:23.040 rebel so that's that's certainly true um but my point is just to say that um that it can be done

00:29:30.880 it's uh it's not it's not impossible and it's not even unusually complex it's just simply hard

00:29:39.780 it's hard work but it can be done and we've seen it be done we've seen societies burn the 0.60

00:29:46.800 transgender propaganda we've seen societies burn all the evil books close down the child 0.98

00:29:52.180 brothels we've seen societies take away the democratic vote after being voted into power 0.56

00:29:56.400 like these things have been done but they become so taboo that we're not allowed to even think

00:30:00.860 about them never mind discuss them right we we've also seen but it's always done without permission

00:30:05.600 no i don't even think that's true i think people vote knew what they were voting for

00:30:09.960 and got what they voted for retrospectively they've changed their minds but yeah that people

00:30:14.240 voted against a vote is that what you're thinking what which which nation are you thinking of why

00:30:19.460 one more Germany. Yeah. Well, and I think, you know, we saw this even with Charlie Kirk, right?

00:30:24.060 He had an organized will for power and he acquired it, a significant amount of power.

00:30:31.740 And he's a case study in what many can do. But I do believe that Christian men need to have an,

00:30:39.480 again, Gnostic, for anybody that's been watching these episodes, Gnostic is the idea that 1.00

00:30:43.600 that spiritual only is good and physical is bad.

00:30:46.960 And the kind of divide or divorce of the spiritual

00:30:50.620 and the physical is a great tactic of the enemy

00:30:53.380 so that you don't care about your world.

00:30:55.000 You don't care about your earth.

00:30:55.840 You don't care about your home.

00:30:56.800 And so the reality of fighting to get the physical back

00:31:03.720 is a virtuous and godly thing

00:31:05.720 because God didn't just create your soul.

00:31:08.120 I mean, we actually hear in 1 Corinthians 6

00:31:10.920 That God, Christ, purchased both your body and your soul, which are God's.

00:31:17.660 And so he doesn't just care about your soul.

00:31:19.300 He cares about your body.

00:31:19.980 He cares about the earth in which he created, in which he is redeeming.

00:31:23.280 He cares about the order.

00:31:24.440 He created the nations.

00:31:25.300 There's all of these things that it's not just a spiritual-only kingdom.

00:31:29.040 It's a physical kingdom that God is sanctifying through the church.

00:31:32.360 It is all sanctification, absolutely.

00:31:33.740 We are called to such a time as this for a reason.

00:31:35.340 We're called to suffer for a reason.

00:31:36.600 All of this is part of the big picture.

00:31:39.060 And so we can't neglect that duty.

00:31:41.780 We've got to jump into it headfirst.

00:31:43.580 Yeah.

00:31:44.180 Yeah, I think the post-millennial theology for a lot of people is a lot of the young

00:31:48.800 guys that maybe haven't been into some of the eschatology discussions, but having a

00:31:53.160 post-millennial hope where the world isn't going to get worse and worse and worse, but

00:31:56.800 we actually believe it's going to get better and better and better.

00:31:58.640 It doesn't mean that it doesn't have dips and ups and downs as we're climbing up the

00:32:02.420 mountain, just like you have the hills that are climbing up the foothills that are climbing

00:32:05.560 up the mountain.

00:32:06.060 but over time through the proclamation of the gospel through the the the body of christ which

00:32:10.520 is the church uh we expect that christ will be successful in converting his enemy or conquering

00:32:15.960 his enemies through conversion and that the gospel is spiritual but it comes into physical

00:32:20.300 beings and then it comes out the fingertips of those physical beings into education and into

00:32:24.200 politics and into civics and into economics and all of these dimensions and so do we believe the

00:32:29.720 world is better uh now than it was 500 years ago i think so i don't um well sorry sorry meaning

00:32:35.960 you're looking at this particular moment as a dip i'm saying is that are there more christians

00:32:40.880 on the earth today than there were say 500 years ago i think there are um i don't know about that

00:32:46.120 are they less organized and maybe less um fruitful as a group maybe um but what i'm saying is that

00:32:52.920 the the church continues to grow has it ever been a point where the church is getting smaller

00:32:57.360 i don't think the church is getting small i think it's getting bigger and bigger now can it be

00:33:00.660 less fruitful or less mature possibly and i think there's seasons that do that i think we're in a

00:33:06.920 dip right now if you look at the stock market and you go you see the stock market's going up and

00:33:10.840 down but if you zoom out over 50 years you're like oh this thing's trending i think it's a big dip i

00:33:14.640 think we talk about the dark ages and that's another subversion i think the dark ages were

00:33:18.040 a great christian time yeah one of the best times in human history however now this is the new dark

00:33:23.180 age this is the real dark age yeah when we talk about the fact that women are killing since 1970

00:33:27.840 more human beings than have ever been killed by men throughout the whole of human history in every 0.98

00:33:31.860 war plague famine pestilence combined we're killing off we're sacrificing babies to moloch 0.95

00:33:37.940 it's on a biblical level and not only is it happening but it's acceptable not only is 0.86

00:33:42.380 acceptable sometimes it's celebrated so this is the darkest time in human history people be like

00:33:46.560 yeah we've got plumbing now we've got convenience now yes but we're killing off babies every day

00:33:50.780 it's happening right now as we're talking yeah it's dark well and and uh yeah i you know the 1.00

00:33:56.660 trannies are reading our children stories at the libraries um you know the homosexuals are 1.00

00:34:02.120 leading in government um pagan immigration is happening everywhere the hindus are sacrificing 0.99

00:34:07.900 goats and the you know it's everywhere and i go that's what people go yeah why are you so extreme 0.92

00:34:13.080 dale because we're so superior we think we're in the best time we think of the best people it's

00:34:16.660 all this year zero stuff like if i was around when jesus was there of course i wouldn't condemn him

00:34:20.500 yeah of course you would because it's your human nature your sinful nature like we look at history 0.55

00:34:24.340 be like, those Aztecs, what were they doing? Sacrificing babies. We're doing it today and 1.00

00:34:28.760 we don't recognize it. We don't recognize the evil capacity in ourselves. We're so blinded by our own

00:34:34.240 sense of pride. Well, and that's why, again, I'm going to go into this conversation around social

00:34:38.340 media. I think it's vastly important that men are on social media. I think it's vastly important

00:34:42.680 that women are not on social media. Not that women can't be on social media in the sense that I think 1.00

00:34:46.980 there are some specific spots for women, like women-only spaces and discussions around older

00:34:52.120 women teaching younger women how to love their husbands and love their children. But I think

00:34:55.880 that what Satan is doing is that he's making the internet a place of temptation for pornography

00:35:01.820 as a way to keep men off of social media and women on it. But women control the narrative 1.00

00:35:08.280 through social media. And when men are going, oh, my wife's on social media, but I'm not on social 0.91

00:35:12.500 media. I'm like, dude, the public war for our country and our future is on social media. You

00:35:17.680 You think that the conversations that led to any particular war, where'd they start first?

00:35:22.120 They didn't start at the Pentagon.

00:35:24.100 No, they started at the rumblings of discussions that are happening on social media.

00:35:27.680 So just ban the porn. 0.96

00:35:29.160 Ban the porn.

00:35:29.840 Ban children from using social media. 0.99

00:35:31.400 Encourage your wives not to be on social media. 0.86

00:35:33.380 And men get on there and engage. 0.59

00:35:34.540 I can't think of hardly any reasons.

00:35:36.820 I mean, again, there are some.

00:35:38.080 Oh, great recipe. 0.64

00:35:39.200 Oh, that was a great piece of wisdom on how to be a submissive, joyful wife. 1.00

00:35:42.340 There are some great things that exist. 1.00

00:35:44.560 But outside of that, the vast majority of social media is not good for women. 1.00

00:35:48.940 It's a place of gossip. 1.00

00:35:50.480 It's a place of warfare.

00:35:52.280 It's a place of temptation.

00:35:53.540 It's a place of comparison.

00:35:54.860 And all that happens is men fall into that and men become gossips and men become tempted

00:35:58.300 and men become effeminate.

00:35:59.640 So we need men on social media.

00:36:02.700 And again, I always tell people, get on X.

00:36:05.460 Get on X right now because this is basically the newspaper of the day.

00:36:08.540 It's the public square of the day.

00:36:09.700 and when you get to see what's happening around the world it will it'll it'll red pill you right 0.78

00:36:15.500 it's don't let it black pill you right but it'll red pill you you'll go wow now now i'm because

00:36:20.960 people misunderstand i think all three of us they go why are you saying such intense things and i'm 0.98

00:36:26.600 going do you not see the trannies reading the kids right library books do you not see the abortion 0.94

00:36:31.420 numbers do you not see the pride flag flying over our nation do you not see these things like 0.99

00:36:35.640 at what point am i supposed to when am i allowed to be mad like when's the outrage permitted and

00:36:42.400 so i think now is the time where you go it's okay to be mad it's you know be angry but do not sin

00:36:49.200 which is the very difficult balance of this discussion so i think that's something we all

00:36:56.280 should all repent of but we should continue anyway continue trying to be better yeah right

00:37:02.800 yeah we try to emulate christ and all of his virtues and in every single attempt we fail

00:37:09.740 but then we get back on the horse and try it again so as we seek to love as christ loves

00:37:14.960 in any instance when we fail to love christianly and when we fail to love as christ would have us

00:37:24.440 we don't say well i'm not able to love the same caliber as christ therefore i'm no longer going

00:37:32.700 to try to love right we would never say that so so all all we're suggesting is that i want to flip

00:37:42.200 tables and fashion whips i'm called to flip tables christianly like i want to i want to whip money

00:37:50.120 changes um just as christ would and when i fail then i want to buckle down and try it again

00:37:59.360 i'm into that yeah i think it's it's certainly a time where people want the permission they need

00:38:08.860 the example they need the uh passion behind it um and you got to know that you're going to get

00:38:19.140 critiqued especially by women you're going to get critiqued by effeminate men right you're going to

00:38:23.700 get critiqued by elites. And we have to critique ourselves. We have to rein ourselves in. We have

00:38:30.120 to do that whilst also not falling into being the gatekeepers, as people we know have tried

00:38:36.660 to gatekeepers. We've got to encourage men to go forth, but also help rein themselves in and

00:38:41.560 rein ourselves in. Well, this is, I think, part of the strategy, right? So as much as you want

00:38:46.460 to be on the front of the Overton window, you can't be outside of the front of the Overton

00:38:51.100 window. And the reason is, is because it's just ineffective strategic leadership is where are

00:38:56.340 the, where are the masses and how far ahead do you want to get to the masses? Well, if you get

00:39:00.640 too far ahead of the masses, you're not leading the masses, you're leading a minor group. And so

00:39:05.520 you also don't want to be too far behind where you're just essentially liked by everybody and

00:39:10.180 the fear of man is guiding you. And, um, and so, but there are, are some people that will be

00:39:15.120 outside of the Overton window where, yeah, maybe, maybe the conversation will be there in five 0.99

00:39:19.580 years but it's not there yet and right now you're just looking like an idiot even though maybe some 0.98

00:39:25.760 of the things you're saying are true um but i'm not sure i'm not i think we always have to be true 0.99

00:39:31.040 and and if that makes us look like an idiot to the rest of the world that's fine the problem i

00:39:34.300 have is when we do it as a reaction or we do it to be an edge lord like that's the boundary we've 0.76

00:39:39.140 got to always stick for christ and the truth sure and i'm saying is that obviously righteous

00:39:44.800 provocation is righteous and good um and you should speak for the truth and stand for the

00:39:48.840 truth no matter what circumstances but i think as leaders we need to figure out where's that spot

00:39:54.220 right ride that line and slowly we should be into overton window shifting work and it's it's it's

00:40:01.760 happening which is good yeah we should but there are different people are different some people

00:40:06.260 are going to smash the door down so others can walk through it right different people are on

00:40:09.580 the team and part of it has to do with personality and gifting and those things part of it also has

00:40:13.760 to do a vocation so part of the difficulty that all three of us face is that long before being

00:40:20.980 you know influencers or whatever you want to call it we're actually ministers and ministers don't

00:40:27.920 really have the prerogative of not speaking the truth wherever it may be found so if you're a

00:40:35.640 young man and you're listening to us and you feel the lord calling you to a vocation of politics

00:40:42.060 for instance like you want to be a politician then there's a reasonable argument to be made

00:40:48.080 without compromise to christian virtue for hiding your power levels there's a reasonable argument

00:40:54.060 to be made for holding back at some points for some temporary moment of time in order to achieve

00:41:02.820 a a larger more effective outcome but the minister doesn't have that luxury that's that's i think the

00:41:11.080 difference is you know i a lot of times i'll have people say like joel but like why don't you know

00:41:16.300 why you would be so much more effective if you if you simply narrowed your focus and were choosing

00:41:23.340 to fight on only one front calm down on that particular issue exactly so they'll say like

00:41:27.860 you know joel like you actually have a lot of support uh when it comes to fighting against uh

00:41:34.260 the judeo-christian nonsense uh why don't you just stick to that right because there's all these

00:41:39.920 people who agree with you i get the opposite it's like you're great on islam why do you have to talk

00:41:43.920 about the jews exactly exactly so people say why don't you just fight on the front of you know

00:41:49.840 against the judeo whatever like all these people are agreeing with you and then the moment you

00:41:55.440 start to get critical mass you offend half of them by saying something about feminism

00:42:01.840 right because like i'll be talking about you know the you know the whole judeo thing

00:42:06.720 and half of the hoorahs and you know the cheerleading is from women first time i got

00:42:13.940 cancelled in this country was for they invited me over to speak on critical theories and i did

00:42:18.000 they thought i'd speak mostly on race probably because i'm brown that's a racist assumption on

00:42:21.720 their part but i spoke on feminism the critical theory that has invaded conservatives i said

00:42:26.300 something along the lines of a woman can no more become a priest as a man can become a mother

00:42:29.820 common sense christian value we had female pastors walking out as i'm quoting from the scriptures

00:42:35.060 like that's how you know pervasive this is yeah so my point is it depends on calling if you

00:42:44.820 do feel called to the ministry yeah um then you will be fighting on multiple fronts because

00:42:50.900 you you must fight wherever there's an attack and we're being attacked on multiple fronts i wish

00:42:56.340 that our enemy would be so courteous as to line up his troops and only attack on one field but he

00:43:02.820 doesn't fight fair and so he's attacking us from the north and the south and the east and the west

00:43:08.180 and some of the attacks are calculated and organized and others are guerrilla warfare

00:43:13.540 and subversive and you know all these different things and so the minister um so it has to be

00:43:19.780 willing to to mount a defense um at every point where he's being attacked and my point is that

00:43:26.980 in that sense the ministers um i think have you know they don't have the luxury but they do have

00:43:35.960 the obligation to be you know a front line um the the ones who are on the team outside perhaps of

00:43:44.840 the overton window who are pulling and then there are others you know that are perhaps perhaps called

00:43:52.040 to business or to politics or to some other field that can be inside pushing you know and um and

00:43:59.560 working together as a team yeah so yeah we know that pastors are the last generalists in a

00:44:07.440 specialized world that pastors are one of the last generalists that we need to know a little about

00:44:12.080 everything because the scriptures speak about everything yeah so we need to bring all of christ

00:44:16.960 for all of life in every dimension of of the sphere of of life and when i think about you

00:44:23.760 have a variety of people this is the problem right is that you have these maybe soft people

00:44:29.160 that are in lower echelons of the christian discussion in america and i recognize that

00:44:38.040 there's an importance maybe they're moving people from from you know a very dark and sinful life

00:44:44.020 just into phase one and god has a mosaic he has a body which is it's not there's dimension right

00:44:52.020 and then you have people that maybe are to our left that are moving people from their left

00:44:57.860 towards the right and that continues to go on and it is it's also why i don't condemn people

00:45:04.700 to my right because there are people that are more right than i am um and if you can defend

00:45:12.660 their positions biblically or defend them with virtue and christian righteousness i think that

00:45:16.860 they're they're there um but there is a mosaic and i think the the body of christ proves that

00:45:25.500 we're a flock we're a building we're a we're a bride we're an organism that's multifaceted

00:45:30.220 and there is people in every part of the body that are moving people along this journey i'm not

00:45:37.740 going to take some normie,

00:45:39.200 Evangelii, Baptist in

00:45:41.580 Southern California megachurch

00:45:42.840 all the way to maybe my

00:45:45.680 positions theologically,

00:45:47.360 politically, overnight.

00:45:49.140 How long did it take you to get here?

00:45:50.960 It took me years.

00:45:52.800 I think the Lord is using many people

00:45:55.000 in many different ways, and we need to appreciate

00:45:57.140 that fight.

00:45:58.060 We have to be forgiving of people who aren't with us yet,

00:46:00.800 because everyone's on a journey.

00:46:02.520 I get this a lot from people who are further along than I am.

00:46:05.140 They're like, you're not quite here on this yet.

00:46:06.380 but we've got to all bring people with us if you turn people away you're actually rejecting soldiers

00:46:11.000 for the fight yeah i i and again the pastor does i've often but not generals right i feel like 0.96

00:46:18.680 that's part of trump's problem is it's not that he's a jerk i think he's actually far too kind 0.80

00:46:25.860 he's actually not too slow but too quick to forgive and it's one thing to forgive and to invite 0.97

00:46:33.380 but it's another to forgive invite and immediately appoint in high positions

00:46:39.540 of leadership uh somebody who was your enemy 15 minutes prior that's i you know or just because 0.99

00:46:48.380 they're beautiful women so there's so it's come join the team but you don't get to be star player

00:46:54.760 right you don't get to be the quarterback so i think that pastors also struggle with this reality

00:47:00.660 of, shouldn't you be just talking about the gospel?

00:47:04.800 Shouldn't you not be talking about these issues?

00:47:08.140 And at some degree, I go, well,

00:47:10.080 in talking about strictly theological doctrines

00:47:13.800 and sticking mostly to the historic Christian faith,

00:47:18.440 I think, again, is a privilege of a victorious civilization.

00:47:23.060 When you have great godly politicians,

00:47:26.240 I don't need to worry about the state

00:47:28.200 because I know I have good godly men from my church in those positions. And I can sit and

00:47:33.520 have more conversations around some of the deeper theological dimensions of the gospel.

00:47:40.400 One of my favorite books is Political Sermons of the American Founding Era. It's a two-volume set,

00:47:47.460 and it shows these pastors that are willing to speak and having to speak on these political

00:47:52.640 engagements of the day. And I think as Christians, we need to realize that this is a moment for us

00:47:57.820 that we don't have many Christian politicians.

00:48:01.240 We don't have many Christian voices in the public square.

00:48:05.440 And so if we're not here,

00:48:07.100 where are the flock gonna, where are they gonna go?

00:48:08.960 For me, it's simpler than that.

00:48:10.180 Like the gospel is salvation.

00:48:12.020 You can't speak on salvation

00:48:13.160 unless people know what they're being saved from.

00:48:15.000 People don't know what sin is anymore. 1.00

00:48:16.240 So we have to talk about transgenderism. 1.00

00:48:17.820 We have to talk about abortion. 0.91

00:48:18.920 We have to talk about mass migration and replacement 0.95

00:48:20.980 because people don't know what's good and evil anymore.

00:48:23.280 So we can't say Jesus Christ came to save you.

00:48:25.900 Save me from what?

00:48:27.460 He loves me as I am.

00:48:28.820 He affirms me in my sinful ways.

00:48:30.820 Yep.

00:48:31.420 Yeah, and we have a duty to be on,

00:48:35.880 again, why I argue why pastors,

00:48:38.400 why leaders must be on social media

00:48:40.220 is because if we're not there as Christian men,

00:48:43.360 where are the Christians gonna go?

00:48:45.400 They're gonna turn to Ben Shapiro.

00:48:46.740 They're gonna turn to Jordan Peterson.

00:48:48.360 They're gonna turn to these secular

00:48:50.620 or non-Christian voices for Christian answers. 0.71

00:48:53.920 But then if you have Christians that are saying,

00:48:55.800 oh you shouldn't be talking about these things well where are you going to go in order to hear

00:48:59.420 the answers the christian answers the biblical answers yeah so so we do we need we need christian

00:49:05.300 ministers in that fight by the way whatever ben shapiro is using on his eyebrows i want some for

00:49:09.800 my mustache fair yeah uh there has to be a voice um one of the critiques that i i'll get sometimes

00:49:19.940 is uh you know but why um why did you rebuke that person you know as harshly as you did or this that

00:49:29.500 or the other um just one piece of free advice uh a conviction that i've come to is uh social media

00:49:37.440 is the equivalent of the public square today and you know people often they'll say okay i recognize

00:49:44.780 that jesus had sharp rhetoric that he reserved for elites and leaders like he's you know speak 0.91

00:49:51.260 to the pharisees in a certain manner your children of your father the devil he was a liar since the 1.00

00:49:57.500 beginning murderer since the beginning when he lies he speaks his native tongue you're a chip 0.99

00:50:01.260 off the old block you bear a striking resemblance to your father the devil or your whitewashed 0.99

00:50:08.220 tombs right you're pretty and bleached on the outside but the inside that smells like death

00:50:13.260 there's a rotting corpse or um you know you travel you know land and sea half the world to 0.99

00:50:19.520 make a proselyte and when you do you you make him you know twice the son of the devil that you are

00:50:24.380 um all these different things you brood of vipers you know the multiple different examples um and

00:50:30.740 i'm just starting with the greater to the lesser so that i don't have to you know obviously elijah

00:50:34.840 did the same thing like many of the prophets did the same thing but but jesus being the supreme

00:50:39.540 example right but what i'll get the critique is yes i recognize the serrated edge the sharp

00:50:46.640 point in rhetoric uh even a biblical category for mocking at times right um but jesus reserved this

00:50:54.540 type of rhetoric for leaders yeah and i see you doing it you know on social media and and my

00:50:59.900 my counter to that is um that if a woman is um is spouting nonsense and things that uh that

00:51:11.220 ultimately um are deceitful and subversive and and destructive to western civilization and the

00:51:20.560 church in particular um and she has 80 000 followers and she's a leader you know people

00:51:28.560 would say but what biblical example do you have of you know jesus using this kind of language

00:51:35.560 towards a woman and i would simply respond and say what biblical example do you have

00:51:40.100 of a woman who had 80 000 followers in the day of jesus i think discernment comes into it this

00:51:45.940 is something i've been working on lately there are sometimes we need to publicly publicly rebuke

00:51:51.820 public heresy error or sin right but sometimes we need to privately rebuke it yes that finding

00:51:57.840 that balance is hard you know just last week there was a lot of evangelicals in the white house

00:52:03.140 praying over the president all of them zionists all of them in liberal or some form of liberal 0.98

00:52:09.940 theology and the outrage on social media was like these people are heretics you know burn in hell 0.93

00:52:15.680 kind of get them out whereas i'm like okay well we have a white house faith office for the first

00:52:20.300 time in this country's history that's a good thing the president's hearing jesus christ name

00:52:23.960 every single day that's a good thing and through not having a hostile relationship i was able to

00:52:28.940 speak directly with the head of the faith office and say could you perhaps make sure there's a

00:52:32.740 catholic involved in the prayer with the president next time maybe bishop strickland you know someone

00:52:36.720 who's orthodox who's sound who's not going to be wet and weak and feeble and her response was

00:52:42.620 actually that's you know a good response and uh we'll try and we're not against catholicism we'll

00:52:48.240 try and add some of that balance so we're able to make positive changes sometimes with honey over

00:52:53.420 or the carrot over the stick,

00:52:55.240 but it's a discernment thing.

00:52:57.380 Yeah, that's true.

00:52:58.840 Yeah, it requires discernment.

00:53:01.580 Yeah, but my point is just to say

00:53:03.780 that if somebody has thrown their hat in the ring

00:53:06.540 in terms of public influence,

00:53:10.100 then they do qualify as a leader.

00:53:12.940 That may not mean that in every case

00:53:15.000 that you use satire and mockery

00:53:18.540 and those kinds of things.

00:53:19.980 But my point is to say that

00:53:21.460 because of just the unique nature of social media there really is no longer um the category of you

00:53:29.660 know well you're publicly using sharp rhetoric against uh a nobody like okay i mean if the

00:53:37.260 person has 17 followers or something then then that might fit but in the case of you know well

00:53:43.220 this person is not a leader they're not uh holding religious office or civil office you know and it's 1.00

00:53:49.840 just a poor sweet woman okay but if she has 250 000 followers she has asserted herself into a 0.88

00:53:57.260 position of public influence you may or may not choose to use certain rhetoric but in terms of 0.99

00:54:04.720 the principle of whether or not it's allowed it is allowed it is well if she's also inserted 0.70

00:54:09.800 herself into a masculine space right and put a dagger in her hand and she's out there slicing 0.98

00:54:16.580 people including you you go well i have a woman out here who's now a leader who's now slicing at 1.00

00:54:26.960 me who's now hurting my reputation or lying or sinning about my particular positions and i might

00:54:36.760 by grace because a godly man would just not say anything for a bit but if it continues on and it

00:54:44.660 continues on. And every few comments, this happens. And then there's a retweet and there's

00:54:49.860 a repost and there's another slandering, another slander. At some point, again, it's selective

00:54:55.000 outrage. At some point, if you go back up to this woman and you go, you know, you push back with a

00:55:00.160 rebuke, a harsh rebuke. Everybody gets frustrated about that harsh rebuke when they don't get

00:55:06.360 frustrated about the fact that a woman is in the battle of the public space, fighting with men,

00:55:12.740 calling pastors and older men heretics yeah but i think as men we try to point out why that is a

00:55:19.040 bad example of that female being in that position rather than attacking the female the woman herself

00:55:24.200 as men we don't want to be attacking women but we do want to point out why they shouldn't be in

00:55:28.980 that position or why they're making mistakes yeah so there are me it depends okay i think that there

00:55:34.360 is a context for a prophet directly speaking to jezebel and calling her publicly what she is

00:55:42.560 so um if a woman is going to behave as jezebel publicly in a man's space

00:55:49.440 um then i i think that she can get the jezebel treatment again i think you have the prerogative

00:55:56.240 there are times where honey may do more than vinegar um or you know i think of the apostle

00:56:01.740 paul as he's being you know followed incessantly for three days by this slave girl who's constantly

00:56:10.920 you know trying to sabotage his his ministry and eventually you know he has it and he stands

00:56:18.440 and turns around and rebukes the demon and you know and then immediately you know it's it's not

00:56:26.460 her or the demon that is blamed but paul you know um and you know that'll preach you know why is he

00:56:33.480 blamed for economic reasons he disrupted their capitalist pursuit of using the demon as a

00:56:39.700 soothsayer in order to predict the future and make a profit um and you know women being involved

00:56:46.480 in social media is incredibly profitable and so to turn uh to you know the incessant demon 0.86

00:56:53.480 possessed woman who's been following you for three days or you know in some cases three years

00:56:57.920 shouting at you and distracting from your ministry and turning people against you and to turn and say

00:57:04.000 demon silence um you know you'll you'll be surprised often by uh the people who get upset

00:57:13.520 many of them are not upset out of some feigned chivalry because it's a woman that you've just

00:57:19.260 criticized but they're actually um the profiteers who were benefiting off of you know and you just

00:57:26.720 you just disrupted their commerce you just said that women shouldn't be on social media are you

00:57:32.460 kidding me do you know how many billions of dollars you're threatening right now that's

00:57:37.820 yeah and i think that it doesn't mean that yeah we don't have the correct rhetoric around

00:57:42.460 how to talk to women that's the average christian woman that's on social media then

00:57:47.080 maybe asked a question with a little bit of a bite you go hey well let me give you an honest

00:57:51.140 answer here let me try to win you through through this question uh if it was a an honest question

00:57:57.220 you know you have the honest and dishonest skeptics yeah but it's usually bad faith yeah

00:58:01.680 usually bad faith but i try to be uh if i can um more patient with women than i am with men

00:58:08.800 certainly and i think that's a christian virtue but again we are talking about the public square

00:58:14.480 and we are in a fight for ideological theological warfare and it's it's uh it's not the place

00:58:23.200 in most circumstances for women to be out there we don't see it in the scriptures we don't see it

00:58:29.680 throughout history and all of a sudden we see it in mass now true yeah it's difficult but you're

00:58:36.880 right calvin um it's case by case and you you know each individual reserves the prerogative

00:58:44.880 of exercising discernment is this a honey situation or a vinegar yeah the only reason i bring it up

00:58:50.560 because i'm worried that the red-pilled army are becoming anti-women rather than pro-masculinity

00:58:56.160 and that there is a very thin line there that we're treading you're right yeah you're right i

00:59:00.720 mean there are plenty of men today that um that really just hate women um there's a difference

00:59:07.840 like i you know we said previously between being a sexist which i wholeheartedly support and being

00:59:14.880 a true misogynist that actually hates or despises women we want to take women's votes away because

00:59:20.560 we love women and we love our society and we want to be providing and protecting for women

00:59:24.880 not because we hate them that distinction is important for a lot of people right it's because 0.77

00:59:28.660 we love women and we know that when women can vote um they vote for being raped yeah well they 0.70

00:59:35.580 also and they're they're easily manipulated by evil men yeah yeah and so we it's our duty to

00:59:41.580 protect them by eliminating the opportunity to vote you want to get to my wife you have to go

00:59:46.480 through me and you're not going to get her emotions manipulated you're going to have to

00:59:51.400 manipulate my emotions and i'm less likely to be manipulated um and that's the threat is that they 1.00

00:59:57.380 can't control men the way they can control women which is the reason why they want the women vote

01:00:01.820 so practical solutions men have to lead the way men need to get involved social media is not the

01:00:08.620 end but it's a means it's one of the places where men can be proactive actually standing in the

01:00:14.860 public square exercising courage speaking out um they'll have to do it without permission

01:00:20.720 um the you know they're going to have to be willing um to to be active despite criticism

01:00:29.880 and uh and certain slander and accusations um they can't they can men can't lead

01:00:38.760 with the condition of women's permission.

01:00:44.240 And all men must lead. 0.99

01:00:45.700 Either you're standing or running for office, 0.99

01:00:47.780 or you're getting married and having children,

01:00:49.520 or you're becoming a priest or a minister.

01:00:51.440 Those are the options.

01:00:52.780 Right.

01:00:53.380 And if a man is attempting to lead women,

01:00:56.860 but only when women give him permission,

01:00:58.780 then he's not really a leader.

01:01:01.200 So doing these things, being willing to be criticized,

01:01:05.600 finding your place in the Overton window,

01:01:08.760 um if you're a minister then you don't really have the luxury of being a specialist

01:01:14.040 wherever wherever we're being currently attacked wherever the church finds opposition then you have

01:01:22.960 to be willing to mount a defense as a pastor there's a sense of being a generalist and so

01:01:28.180 you're going to have to fight on multiple fronts which will make you less of a populist figure

01:01:34.220 um but uh perhaps a vanguard a thought leader that can be referenced by others who come and

01:01:42.260 and bring up the rear if you're a politician it may be permissible for a time to pick one issue

01:01:50.440 knowing that there are many others that matter um for instance you know for the longest time we've

01:01:57.300 had, you know, single issue voters and some single issue, you know, politicians. They weren't

01:02:04.160 necessarily elected, but at least ran on ending abortion. And I think that we have entered an 0.52

01:02:13.220 era where I think it would be from a Christian standpoint permissible for someone in the realm

01:02:19.180 of politics to be a single issue politician on the issue of immigration. And it doesn't mean that

01:02:26.680 he doesn't care about abortion or that he doesn't care about you know same-sex marriage being an 0.99

01:02:32.120 affront an abomination um but i think the politician has a certain prerogative that the 0.51

01:02:38.880 pastor does not he actually can choose that william wilberforce you know he gave his life

01:02:46.000 for one issue i'm sure that there were other issues that that he also thought were important

01:02:51.020 but he dedicated himself to dying on one singular hill and um and i think that the politician has

01:02:59.140 that available to him in in a way that the pastor does not we need more christian politicians i

01:03:04.260 guess that that's what i'm building up to is i think ultimately things change not necessarily

01:03:10.300 because of the masses but because of the elite men should pursue um elite status not every man

01:03:17.420 can be. God hasn't gifted everyone in that way. Every man will be a leader, whether it be in his

01:03:23.180 home or whatever, what have you. But men who are particularly intelligent and gifted and have,

01:03:32.100 you know, a unique set of resources and skills and those things, I think should in this day and age

01:03:38.760 aspire towards being an aristocrat, being an elite, being influential.

01:03:47.560 And that means often putting your head down and hiding your power levels for a season

01:03:52.260 in order to be credentialed, going and getting the credentials, knowing that you are to the

01:04:02.940 right of that particular institution um and so playing ball playing the long game um and then

01:04:10.620 fighting on one issue even though you know the truth is maybe there's 17 different issues that

01:04:16.440 uh that you hold dear um i think being shrewd being wise being strategic i think that's the

01:04:25.480 way that change occurs it occurs from a well-organized minority that's highly gifted

01:04:30.980 highly intelligent um and shrewd i know i think i think uh the strategy there of being okay with

01:04:42.840 it's not going to be easy it's going to be hard it's not complex um it's not difficult to

01:04:48.460 comprehend it might be difficult to swallow it's it's hard work um but we do i we i would

01:04:54.740 love for christian and i think the only reason we are seeing some pastors step into the political

01:05:00.200 sphere at such a degree i mean we even have dusty deavers and he's kind of holding a two office

01:05:04.140 situation with being a pastor and being a senator yeah um it's because of a lack of men stepping in

01:05:10.500 and so we we do we need that right there dusty deavers is a great example like i would never 0.68

01:05:15.760 counter that it's like the sons of isikar they knew the times and what israel ought to do

01:05:20.900 um i would say that that is um something that's permissible in a timely fashion yeah i'm just

01:05:27.960 We only consider it standing in the next general election,

01:05:30.320 Great Britain, because someone needs to.

01:05:32.420 We've got to take our country back. 0.97

01:05:33.780 So it's, in the timely sense, permissible.

01:05:36.400 In the timeless sense, less than ideal.

01:05:38.980 In a timeless sense, we would love to see ministers 0.97

01:05:42.460 strictly as ministers, Christian princes strictly,

01:05:47.360 but in a moment of desperate times call for desperate measures.

01:05:51.280 Yeah, 100%.

01:05:52.260 All right.

01:05:53.660 Well, thank you guys for the conversation.

01:05:55.120 I appreciate it, and I hope that our listeners

01:05:57.660 have been blessed.

01:05:58.920 Thank you, man.

01:06:27.660 Thank you.

The NXR Podcast - April 29, 2026

THE SPECIAL - Stop Waiting - No One Is Coming To Save You

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