THE SPECIAL - “The Black Problem？” — The Conversation No One Will Have
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In this episode, we discuss the current state of race relations in the United States of America, and how it relates to the Black community. We discuss the lack of black fathers in American society, and why this is such a problem.
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through mass deportations going back to heart seller act achieve 75 to 85 percent white majority
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and then with that remaining majority you're going to have some hispanics uh that are heritage i
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would consider heritage hispanics they fought with us in uh in uh the at the alamo they're like they
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love our country they've forsaken uh their heritage this now is their heritage uh they're
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christians they love america so some hispanics would fit uh the bill some less but some asians
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would fit the bill and then certainly you would have heritage blacks radical christian nationalist
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pastor joel webin joel webin i'm going to talk about joel webin joel webin is an accident
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all right if you watched our first episode then you know what we're about to talk about i'm going
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to give it to you calvin to lead us off well we discussed the issue of the muhammadans of the jews
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but i want to know what is america going to do about the blacks the black problem the age-old
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question right right because i i came to this country i thought you know there's a united
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american people but quite quickly it became clear there's not yes there's an issue here of
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two cultures living in one land and it seems to me that most americans don't dislike african
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americans i think most americans this came to me a while ago that most americans see african
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americans the way that brits see americans like not the same social etiquette you know louder
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brasher um just inherently annoying but not their fault it's their culture right most most brits
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would look down their noses at the average american you can tell the average american
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when they're walking through london just by their gates never mind when they open the mouth and it's
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not a hatred of americans it's just they're not conforming to our social etiquette whether it's
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wearing caps inside or you know speaking with an outside voice inside whatever using cutlery the
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wrong way and i think african americans are like that too to your average american in that it's
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not their fault they just have a social etiquette that's different to yours a culture that's different
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to yours speaking with an inherently annoying voice that makes me think i saw a meme it said
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silence a black woman is speaking and then the guy's response was yeah but could we at least
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wait till the movie's over that's a classic yeah so okay so you're saying culture let's get into
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that a little bit because um of course it's culture but when did that start because people
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make culture yeah i look at american films from back in the day and i don't know how true this is
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because i see it from from the outside but the african-americans were well-dressed yes well
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spoken christian uh it seemed like they were not there was a bit of segregation but maybe that's
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why it was a protected culture i don't know maybe there was a hierarchy in in 1950 the rate of
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family abandonment and divorce among black families was the equivalent of today's white
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families uh which is to say i mean it was higher than white families had much higher rates then
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but still what it was demonstrating is that there was a significant amount of moral adherence
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compared to what it is today i think now it's 64 percent of black households don't have a father
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and i think it's like 75 it might be higher yes it might be higher than that so there's a
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it's an unbelievable number of abandoning fathers.
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And unfortunately, our guy that could have been
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you have some of these great black men in society
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but there's really not many black men that I know of. And I count myself pretty informed on
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this particular topic that are willing to have this conversation theologically, biblically,
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carefully, morally. And so it's a certain need. Well, we know if a family breaks down before a
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kid reaches 18, that kid is twice as likely to end up in prison, on drugs, or in crime of some
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degree. We know those statistics regardless of race. So why is it more prevalent amongst black
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people biology has to come into the conversation like i think that's part of the problem i'll be
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i'm happy to be the bad guy and you guys can push back and disagree but um i think the problem with
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conservatives for quite a while now is that you know i'm based i'm a conservative i've read the
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fbi statistics that are even the fbi statistics are skewed you know like i mean look at all the
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pictures is like white white white white it's like wesley snipes white you know like and so
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even the fbi statistics um are actually far worse if they were honest and so because it's so apparent
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the conservative will acknowledge the disparity uh in terms of crime in terms of you know all
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these different things uh but they always speak to culture and and i feel like there's a negligence
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of like culture doesn't appear out of the ether culture doesn't hang in midair um people make
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culture culture comes from someone not just somewhere but someone and and i acknowledge
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and uh and i'd love if we can get back to this and i think there actually are some solutions but
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i acknowledge that blacks i believe were you know you look at america's history
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they were progressing they were developing they were maturing and um and coming along in incredibly
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positive ways but i think part of that i'll i'll quote nick fuentes on on this um i think he's
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right i don't you know he's not right about everything but i like him and i think he's right
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about more than people would be willing to give him credit for he said that uh one of the reasons
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why blacks were improving is because there was a humility that like rather than entitlement right
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there was a humility blacks had this general sense of um we're the minority
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um the country was not built on the back of slavery the country was built by europeans
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we are um in many ways a second class citizen and um and we are going to work our butts off to prove
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right that uh that that we're every bit as good as any so there was like a black pride but not
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the black pride that we have today of like some rapper i'm proud that i knocked up you know 17
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different women and proud that i you know shot up this this house no it was like um i'm not going
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to i'm not going to give in to the stereotype it was like a a black pride of like um our family
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is going to stay together and um like there's all these stories uh you know of like black the black
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grandma who's like um that you know their kid um was acting up yeah and like boom and she comes
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down like a hammer yeah on them like you're not going to embarrass me yeah in front of these white
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folk or just hurt our reputation or hurt our people's reputation we've worked really hard
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yeah so they were my point is um they they were coming along right there was still a distinction
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between whites and blacks there always was anybody who says otherwise is just being dishonest there
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was but in in some sense the gap was um was shortening and uh and and whites were progressing
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but blacks were progressing also not degressing um and and the gap was arguably um uh shrinking
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but then um you know but then the jews but then the jews that's right no with the civil rights
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act and all these kinds of things victimhood mentality marxism so my point is i think there
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always would have been some difference and i think we have to acknowledge that right because i think
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some of the difference is biological i i think that that when you have a diminished prefrontal
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cortex there's going to be a biological difference so you you you're half black you brought it up
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talk about that for a second i mean i don't talk about it necessarily believe it's a race issue i
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think it's a breeding issue and when when several generations of of breeding within a particular
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demographic which isn't of the highest iq you're going to have a general population with a low iq
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look at somalia i don't think they are cursed by god to be low iq i think they've just bred with
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each other for so long inbreeding through if you're not aware of that for the listener um
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look it up say the pakistanis the pakistani community in britain are the most inbred and
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also the most retarded, mentally retarded people in the country. And they continue to marry their
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cousins and continue to inbreed. And every school teacher in Britain will tell you that the disabled
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kids tend to be Pakistani because of the inbreeding. Well, I heard that like, yeah, 64% of
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somewhere on there, some percent in the 60th percentile of Pakistan is cousin marriages.
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Right. And so let me, let me back up a little bit for us, because I think
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there's yes the uh the inbreeding the malnutrition the um the poverty but also if you look again
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nations that have been living on the equator have less uh problem solving skills required
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than northern communities right and the reason is you have good weather you don't have seasons
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You don't have to plan for food storage, for shelter.
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And so you have these extremely fit athletic builds of the black population who are living on the equator because they've lived outside and their life is focused on outdoor activity.
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So I always assumed it was that slaves were bred to be stronger and faster, but I think your theory has more to it.
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Well, I think it's that they noticed the strength of the slaves because of the location that God had placed these peoples.
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right um and this isn't just even this would be like the dominican as well dominican republic
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right they're they're outside as well but they're not they're what i would call them as black
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hispanics but you when you go north and you have seasons and you have the need to cultivate indoor
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activities you're building ahead you're well you're having architecture you're having planning
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ahead and when you're inside half the year you have intellectual pursuits rather than physical
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pursuits and so you're dealing with literature you're dealing with poetry you're dealing with
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inventions, you're dealing with music, you're dealing with, which, and again, it's not just
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European, it's also China, it's also Russia, it's also Japan. So you have this reality where you
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have over generations, differences of IQ developing between the Northern territories and the Equator
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territories. But then you combine that with, again, poverty and inbreeding, and you have this
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complex reality. Now, IQ is generally stable. It's hereditary generally. You can change it
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through nutrition. If you give a child really great food and really great upbringing, you also
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bring Christianity into the picture, and then you have a totally different reality. Now, we know that
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the gospel went from Jerusalem, it went out west toward Greece and Rome, and then it went out west
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even further toward the European nations, and then also to America. And America, as it stabilized as
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a nation started sending missionaries where? Well, to Africa and to other nations. And so
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the gospel has been among the white nations for a much longer time than it has the African nations.
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And so when you again have the African nations where you're having thousands of years of demon
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worship combined with different environmental factors and poverty, you start to produce
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different groups of people that I think can be reversed, but it's not instantaneously. It is
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over generations, and it does demand the gospel. So I think you combine the two together. But I
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think if we have a discussion around this, you know, the Bell Curve book that was written in the
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1990s, which I believe- That's Charles Murray, right?
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Yeah. And actually, I think the other guy is a Jewish guy that wrote it. He was a Harvard,
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He was like the chief psychologist at Harvard in 1994.
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but it was also a New York Times bestseller in 1990, 1994.
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And so I think there's a conversation to be had here.
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I'm fascinated by what you said because we've known for a while from the fall of Rome and
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from the apparent fall of Europe that nations, on a societal level, if you have abundance,
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but it's also on an individual or a personal level
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So having too much of a good thing can be a bad thing.
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there were poor poor people and their uh their line was cut off so as as christians i think um
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number one uh we have a moral obligation to um to display intellectual honesty so we have to be
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truthful uh but two uh we want to root everything that we can um in in the christian narrative and
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um and so we're not none of us are darwinianists um we're we're all we believe in the biblical
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narrative um that said so i you know this will probably get clipped clipped out but if anybody's
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you know being in in you know in the vein of intellectual honesty if they actually include
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the caveats that i'm going to provide then there's nothing you know immoral or wrong about
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what i'm about to say but um one of the things that we just don't we still don't fully grasp
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um culture comes from the latin word cultus it's worship um and when it comes to worship
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when it comes to religion um every religion every major world religion has a eugenics program
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um it's not whether but which um immoral forms of eugenics are immoral the wrong for sterilization
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or these kinds of things are heinous and and i would never say otherwise but um when you look
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at world religions uh dietary restrictions does religion have anything to say about you keep
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mentioning nutrition and you're absolutely right but uh does religion have anything to say about
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nutrition plenty plenty exactly uh does religion have anything to say about catechesis and uh
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education and training plenty does religion have anything to say about whose bloodline is cut off
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from a people based off of uh crimes immorality these kinds of plenty uh does religion have
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anything to say about who you can and cannot marry like do these things have genetic implications
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well of course they do so you know like it's funny people would be like well joel's or you
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know so i'm not a race essentialist i think that religion is higher right i'm also not a racial
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determinist um i i do believe that in the province of god albeit very slowly so not in 15 minutes
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but over the course of generations i believe that the deck can shuffle so i'm not a racial
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determinist if europe and america if whites continue continue being the key word because
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we're currently doing it if we continue for a thousand years to apostatize against the lord
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jesus christ and other nations non-white nations um not just convert in some silly you know revival
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crusade you know decisionism for christ but uh deeply deeply discipled in the christian faith
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and apply all of christ to all of life for a thousand years then i believe that it's conceivable
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that another race of people could actually in biological and objective metrics pass up europeans
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not in 20 years, not in even 100 years, but in 1,000 years genetically across the board in
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certain arenas, including IQ. Because religion, worship, we're not Gnostics. We believe that
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the soul is of infinite value, that the eternal matters more. But even the apostle Paul, he
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doesn't say spiritual training is of infinite value and therefore be a fat lard. Physical
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training is of no value at all no he doesn't say that much to the chagrin of all these 300 pound
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pastors you know who don't smoke or drink but they're eating you know if they're not disciplined
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in body they're probably not disciplined in mind amen and so we're not gnostics uh paul says you
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know if spiritual training is of a greater value but physical training he doesn't assign to it no
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value um he assigns to it some value so the body is a real category god made the physical material
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world and said it was good. God loves the world. I believe that refers to people, but also the
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cosmos. God actually loves his material creation enough to actually step into it in real human
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history with a physical body. And the Lord Jesus Christ, not just temporarily, but he is still in
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the glorified physical body for all of eternity, which is a phenomenal mystery to think about.
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And so all that being said, my point is that when I think of Europeans, for instance, you're talking about you could go all the way back to Constantine or at least a thousand years to King Alfred, even in, what is it?
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It's fiction, but there's strains of truth because a real person wrote the book, Treasure Island.
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Ben Gunn, who's marauded for six years on the island, who's left there.
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and then finally you know uh the good guys show up and jim hawkins the cabin boy um is the first
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one to encounter ben gunn who's you know lost his mind at this point he's been alone for six years
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on this island and the first thing uh that he says to jim hawkins the boy is uh he says please sir
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my mother did not raise me to be a heathen these last six years i have been without a christian
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diet and he calls it do you have any cheese or milk or eggs right and he calls it a christian
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diet and again i understand i'm aware that it's a fictional story but but the person who wrote it
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is a real person and who is shaped in the milieu of christian thought european christian thought
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for centuries and and he says it as just matter of fact as as common speech as though nobody would
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would even begin to question the point that he's asserting and the point is um that there aren't
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just it's not just keto versus um vegetarian versus this no it's um there is a there is a
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hindu diet there is an islamic diet there is a christian diet so which these days would call
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civilized exactly and so so religion impacts everything so there's a reason when you see
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a politician eating rice and slop with his hands that it repulses you on 11 and that's that's the
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very recent exactly so so for us to deny okay if europeans were shaped by christianity for a
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thousand years arguably you know longer uh but a thousand years and and christianity has something
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to say about what you eat and about who you marry and about capital punishment who doesn't get to
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further their line because they're a rank degenerate and all like also about arts and
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arts and education and media and everything else that you when you're building a society music so
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So if all these things are true and you have a people who subjected themselves to the word
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of God, speaking to every single issue of life for a thousand years, of course, there's
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And to say that there's not, oh, so they, yeah, they would have spiritual benefits,
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That is to say that the gospel has no tangible material effect in the world at all.
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I think that's an impotent gospel that only covers the penalty for sin, penal substitutionary
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atonement, but has nothing to say about breaking the power of sin.
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And he comes to make his blessings flow as far as the curse is found.
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Then I believe that the blessings of the gospel actually are able to overcome through time
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generationally those physical curses and then what would be the consequence if there was another
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people right so i've given the european example another people that did not even receive the
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gospel until the last 200 years and in the meantime were worshiping demons and using even
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substance abuse to open portals to have spiritual experiences and intermarrying like you were saying
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calvin for generation after generation of course there would be a a tangible physical difference
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of course there would and so then you take these people and strip them of their homeland
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and bring them to america and and and then you know feel bad about it and grant them freedom
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and the right to vote and then jews come in and begin to tell them that they're actually not only
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equality is on the table but actually they're owed superiority because of past oppression and
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mistreatment and so now it's entitlement and and then we wonder what's going on and so my point is
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yes it's cultural yes rap music is a stain on our society it's it's a net liability uh so yes uh the
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culture and and all these things um are a problem and fatherlessness is a problem uh but we also i
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think have to recognize at some level um that race is real biology is real it can fluctuate over time
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through the power of the gospel is so potent, so efficacious that it can affect even the realm of
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the physical, even as it pertains to a people, to a race, but it takes time. I think that that was
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occurring in America, albeit slowly, but it was occurring. And then we came in and put a sharp
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stopped to it and have done blacks in almost irreparable disservice and now uh we are faced
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with a very difficult question of what to do moving forward it's a question of the spiritual realm i
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think you're talking about here the things that that affect us that we don't necessarily we can't
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tangibly put down on pen and paper and and you mentioned music that's a good example like rap
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music is inherently evil it's promoting degeneracy uh murder hypersexuality you know it's just sin
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it's also got those jungle beats but on but on a deeper level than that patient on a level we've
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forgotten frequency matters right and music used to be on a certain frequency until the jews came
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in and changed the frequency and people are gonna think i'm crazy for this but look it up but even
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even deeper than that every christian country had bells because we know that bells ward off evil
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or we used to know that on a spiritual level we forgot trolls right we've got all of this knowledge
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they ward off trolls was one of the beliefs mohammedans hate music and they hate bells why
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because the devil hates music and their devil hates bells because music is beautiful transcendental
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it takes us out of ourselves directs our gaze towards god and so the enemy undermines that
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through mohammedanism but also through judaism and so our culture on a spiritual level has shifted
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on ways that we don't even recognize because we're no longer in touch with the spiritual realm
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We've got to reconnect with all the things that affect us
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Because we knew, the Masons knew back in the day,
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how to design a dome so the frequencies reverberated off of it
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and it feeds us, it heals us on a spiritual level.
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Yeah. And you mentioned, you know, the white race maybe has a thousand years to return to Christ.
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I don't think the white race has a thousand years left.
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You know, the white Britain will be extinct.
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Well, it will be the minority by 2060, unless something rapidly changes in the immediate future.
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You know, the rest of Europe is looking very similar.
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Let's talk about this conversation around assimilation, biblical assimilation.
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because I think we go, okay, well, what do we do?
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basically the Southwest of the United States,
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um you know we don't we we never had historically arabs we never had historically asians we never
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had historically indians you know so there's so they can all go but the white american brought
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the black american in so this you have a duty and an obligation to that community well there
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yes and there's probably some sort of a solution um which needs to be forefronted with the gospel
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at some direction and then also you know i do believe that the southwest especially again we
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purchase this territory, we're going to see a lot of interracial marriage between Hispanics
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and whites. My wife is Hispanic. She's half European, half Spanish, and half Mexican.
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And I think that's in the Southwest. I grew up in the Southwest in Southern California,
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and I live in the Southwest in Arizona now. I believe that is something... I don't know if
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you're ever going to get away from that. The reality is, I think it's almost producing a new
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ethnos of people uh that are maybe slightly more tan european descents uh that's not a permanent
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thing but that's that's a transitional thing it is to integrate the african-americans into
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the american ethnicity as well as the culture and the people you've got to have intermarriage
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and you'll have a you'll have generations that look like me that are brown or beige or you know
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yes but you're but you're not the end result right exactly yeah yeah so you're a transitional
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uh reality and if if if i think the conversation is what do we see in scripture and i think we
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always ruth the moabite is the easiest to run to because she says you know um your people will be
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your people will be my people your god your god will be my god um and she gives herself over
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now and real quick and it's not a coincidence that four generations then removed so ruth
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joins Israel and they immediately you know make her um Hebrew of the month no but Boaz beget Obed
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Obed begets Jesse Jesse begets David so by the time it gets to David um it'd be 50 percent with
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Obed 75 with um with Jesse 87.5 but so by the time you get to David the best king in the history of
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israel second king chronological order a man after god's own heart he is for all intents and
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purposes a true israelite not just spiritually but also biologically yeah and that second piece
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i don't think is a coincidence in the mind of god so just be clear it sounds like you're both
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promoting race mixing someone like myself right who's not a priest so take a single mixed race
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man like myself who would you say he shouldn't mix race as in he should find another mixed race
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person to marry or would you say he should find a white american woman to marry do you view yourself
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as english i am english do you love the english heritage yes you should marry a white english
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woman but that's race mixing surely it it is well and i would say it's it's assimilation now if you
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were again the difference is is that the conversation about men and women well uh if you
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were a woman i would certainly say well that's the normative reality is that you're going to
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submit to your husband's ethnicity and his lineage, and you're going to fall into...
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That's what we see with Ruth. So what makes the justification for a man doing it? Because you're
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in a situation where your mom was white, your dad was black. Are you going to go back and marry a
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Jamaican woman? Well, I think that would follow the patriarchal structure. But because England
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is christian and has a higher spiritual value and if we put christianity at the top as the most
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important factor i think the justification goes well we're we're going to what is christian and
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jamaica is is historically less christian than that's the problem is all these nations are
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christian now like you i mean haiti is christian yeah oh didn't you know haiti is christian so
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christian you know like yeah yeah it's it's a secret syncretism of you know catholic and voodoo
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like it's you know it's christian sure um but no i i would i would say that like
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england in its history not currently but in its history is truly christian whereas jamaica has
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not had any real true christian heritage well it was a colony of england right yeah before that it
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was the indians so i would say one is uh the the validity of like true genuine uh christianity in
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england's past uh but then second and i don't think that this even has to requires a disclaimer
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i don't think you have to apologize um or anything i think uh you just say well england is superior
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yeah england is england is the it's the better culture for the vast majority of our history
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englishmen have been willing to say the english race is superior well up until the world wars
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by the way then you want to stay in that vein all the air marry a white english woman i mean people
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talking about how, who lived in a particular part of Africa,
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said that white supremacy came from black people.
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It was a phrase that was used by black people
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that they were saying, these men have put pipes
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and their water comes into their house and it's heated.
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Or they have airplanes that fly over our heads.
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And when we see these people, we go, my goodness.
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now again we we notice that superiority and a whole bunch of things right it is um the rivers
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of alaska superior to the rivers of india of course they are right we we have no problem
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admitting that is america as a military power superior to jamaica yes certainly so superiority
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and inferiority people we don't like that reality because it's a conversation around egalitarianism
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right um and are men superior to women yes yes yes and and if are men superior to women in
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nurturing no no um so you you have to qualify these things and you can't have blanket statements
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are are whites superior to blacks well what category are we talking about are we talking
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about athletes then no certainly not um creativity yes yeah um yeah music uh yes intellect sure so
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what I'm saying is that there's a whole bunch of discussions and dimensions that need to take
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place to have a delicate conversation without getting offended. The key question to this whole
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talk is to be willing to have a discussion without your emotions ruling the conversation
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and allowing to have facts, conversations, Christ and the gospel to manage it. And also, again,
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be real. This is a conversation that no one has ever had to have because nobody had a multicultural
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nation until really the last 100 years right this is the product of technological innovation
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planes trains automobiles uh the world we have made the world smaller um through innovation
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so this is this is unique you can't look to um you can look to aquinas you can look to augustine
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for some but they were not dealing in the same way that the founders could not conceive of millions
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of muslims coming into the country uh perhaps if they did they would have been more explicit about
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the lord jesus christ it's a it's the same kind of concept these are things that were not perceived
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and so the church has to go back to the drawing board and sharpen its positions but that that said
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meaning that our sons will have better positions than we do because they'll have more time and
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they'll be working off the shoulders that that we of the work that we build which but my point is
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that said all three of us agree and i know you know tongue-in-cheek calvin you were you know
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making the joke because dale and i both found ourselves a while back in hot water over the
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interracial marriage issue um but it is true and both dale and i would affirm that in a uh in a
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biblical terminology and throughout human history um assimilation if it be true and lasting
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assimilation always came through intermarriage even if two countries were to form an alliance
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how did they do it how did how did two kings form an alliance between their sons and daughters
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would marry always always always in a marriage now that said in the case of america like it's
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it's not rocket science it's not complicated it is hard right like and how do you get to that
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point because as chris rock would say there's the blacks but then there's the niggers nobody wants
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to marry them yeah so how do you get to that point they don't even want to marry each other
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um yes so that to me again not rocket science so it's not complicated it's like chopping wood
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chopping wood is not complex but it is hard you're gonna you're gonna sweat and probably bleed a
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little bit so what is the solution first uh you have to go back to the heart seller act you have
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to go back about 50 60 years and um and say i'm sorry but um ilhan omar is not an american and
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never will be and her and many others that she represents uh need to be deported from the country
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humanely and this is the moderate compassionate christian position this is not cruel this is not
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mean we're allowed to have a country you don't belong here you are not a part of this land this
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lineage this language this loves traditions liturgy worship culture it's not yours and so
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first you have to you actually have to do mass deportations and i would argue that that you
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need to deport about about 25 to 33 about a quarter to a third of the country actually has
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to be deported 70 million um is the number of immigrants since heart seller act uh the vast
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majority of them 62 62 million not from european nations yes exactly so i was going to say about
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85, 90% of those not from European compatible nations. That does not even include their
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posterity and how many children they've had in the last 60 years since Hartzeller was 1965. And so
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exactly 60, 61 years at this point, the number of children. So you're talking about 70,062 of those
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non-European in the last 60 years since Hartzeller, which was designed by a Jew in order to destroy
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the nation it's been very successful um and then you account for their children at least two
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generations three in some cases um and so you're looking at a hundred um approximately a hundred
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to a hundred and twenty 130 million in a country of 330 million so you're looking at about a third
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of the country um was brought here with the express design to sabotage the country and have
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to be removed yeah um and and so you have to do that when you're done with that you're still going
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to have some racial diversity within america because some of it is baked into the pot it's
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like hey if you um if you didn't want blacks here then uh you shouldn't have bought them right you
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shouldn't like but that ship sailed like literally the ships dropped them off and sailed um so they're
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here now you've got to do something in terms of true assimilation um historically speaking
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biblically speaking it it's it is interracial marriage now it's like well this seems like a
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glaring inconsistency because you just did this debate you know uh where you were against
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interracial marriage no it makes sense my my position and i'll state it again we talked about
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it you know in our last episode uh right there briefly at the end but my position is interracial
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marriage although biblically permissible so all of church history has no counsel no no creed has
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condemned interracial marriage as a sin and i'm not going to be the first right you you find
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something novel uh you found heresy and so um it is biblically permissible it is not a sin and
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because it's not a sin i don't believe that it should be um criminalized if it's not a sin uh
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there are some sins that are not crimes coveting for instance would be an example it is a sin
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but it's not a crime being drunk privately in your home it is a sin but it's not a crime so
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you can have a sin that's not a crime you cannot i mean you can because of tyranny uh but you
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cannot righteously ever uh have a a crime that's not a sin so if interracial marriage is not a sin
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and i maintain that it's not uh then it cannot also be a crime which means this is why i didn't
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get the uproar around your previous conversations right online because as someone who's not a white
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man himself i recognize that britain is predominantly white and always has been and
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therefore always should be i don't see that as a slight against myself i see that as just a natural
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facts right god's good order for our country amen yeah so interracial marriage real quick so there's
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an ideal while being biblically permissible aka not a sin therefore not a crime um ordinarily this
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was my position um or generally so not uh universally in each and every individual case
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in the micro but in the macro generally goes against god's ordinary slash normative plan for
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peoples cultures and nations so in the case of america one you deport a ton of people two once
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you've done that then i believe that you could achieve it's 59 percent white european at this
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point i believe that you could through mass deportations going back to heart seller act
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achieve 75 to 85 percent white majority and then with that remaining majority you're going to have
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some hispanics uh that are heritage i would consider heritage hispanics they fought with us
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in uh in uh the at the alamo they're like they love our country they've forsaken uh their heritage
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this now is their heritage uh they're christians they love america uh so some hispanics would fit
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uh the bill some less but some asians would fit the bill and then certainly you would have heritage
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blacks right i'm not of the persuasion that clarence thomas has to go back i like clarence
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thomas um go back where right this this is his home right um and that that decision has already
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been made and the ship has sailed so with remaining predominantly speaking of heritage blacks
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if you're going to have one um you can have with still a not intermarrying between blacks and
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whites you could still have mono ethnicity because ethnicity is more it's land lineage loves
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language liturgy laws these things you can have mono-ethnic and monocultural america with
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heritage blacks and heritage whites and there probably would be whether formally or informally
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some measure of separation and these kinds of things that's one route although that always
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leaves open the door for identity politics and for politicians especially if you're the governor
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of georgia and atlanta is your capital city we know the demographics of atlanta right um you're
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constantly going to have this inclination to play towards the black population over and against
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whites um so so one is you just kind of you you hold your separate your separate places and the
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only way that's possible is through christianity with the impartiality virtue of if if you have
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this governor who is black who's christian so christianity would soften soften the division
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absolute the division but because christianity does uh christianity is not gnosticism and so
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still maintains natural distinctions so christianity would soften uh the the walls of
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hostility it would soften them but the distinctions would still in the in the category of nature
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remain and there would be different incentives for different peoples according to nature while
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both being christian and so there would still be some measure of division that japan would not
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experience and that's just a reality but it would be better certainly it would right now it's the
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natural distinctions have devolved into uh supernatural divisions because of the eroding
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of the christian fabric it's exasperated the absence of christianity has exasperated
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these divisions so that would be an improvement and that's one solution another solution would be
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um to not just be monocultural and monoethnic but actually monoracial over time through true
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assimilation and the only way historically it's ever been achieved which would be interracial
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marriage, which is like, Joel, that's a glaring inconsistency with your position. Well, I think
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that we could achieve 85, 80, 85% white with remaining heritage blacks. It would be, it would
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be now normative to intermittent. No, it would still be the minority, right? If there's 10%
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blacks, 5% Hispanics, 85% whites, it would still be the minority in that case. It would still fit
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my position yeah it would not be mandated it wouldn't be formalized it wouldn't um no no white
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man would be forced to give his daughter to like if no i don't want to do that but it would
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naturally happen over time and then the problem would be solved and here's the deal the problem
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we would probably be right there at the precipice in this moment chronologically in history of the
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problem being solved if it hadn't been for jewish influence for apostasy towards christianity the
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civil rights act and all these it's like we almost had it fixed well we almost had it i grew up i grew
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up in southern california uh in a heavily multicultural area in the 1990s and i remember
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just thinking that the conversation of racism was wild because it just it wasn't even a thing
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and there was i think you know something about the 90s was there was some peak on a lot of
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dimensions but there was also a lot of problems one thing i want to bring back up to both of us
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is, or both of you here is, you know, yeah, let's, the, the monarchs that got together
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that said, Hey, you know, Germany and Austria, let's just say they wanted to get together
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and say, well, they're already pretty close peoples, but let's just say that Arizona became
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its own nation and a particular portion of Northern Mexico said, Hey, we're going to
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And over the next generation or two or three or four, we're going to see this becoming
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that that agreed upon merging is different than the projecting malicious immigration policies
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that we're dealing with today no one voted for what we're dealing with yeah so what's happening
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to us is that it's being it's being projected upon us at a degree of malicious intent yes and
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not just at a foreign policy level but as a media level so you are seeing every like i always say
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yes because it builds resentment yes you know one of the last conversations i had with charlie
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kirk is that that mayor of london is the devil isn't he he is demonic we have to sadiq khan
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a mohammedan running the biggest capital in the west we've got shabnam mahmoud a mohammedan woman
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as the home secretary of of great britain and northern ireland like literally the person in
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of policing and immigration is an immigrant herself that suicidal empathy has gone way
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beyond that point to to murder us calvin what would charlie say about uh us bombing iran i don't
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you know what i had i had a phone call with charlie's team last week and i said to them
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you know if you you're not asking for what they were asking for my advice but i said
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not to give it unsolicitedly but if i could advise one thing it's stop saying what you think charlie
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would do or what charlie would say play his clips put his words up and then say what you will think
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and what you would say and that's that's the message i gave to turning point so that's the
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message i'm going to give to like we know what charlie would think because we could see the
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clips i personally think that the war in iran is a massive mistake yes and i wish there were more
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voices in the white house saying that and i think if he was alive he probably would be amongst those
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voices but i don't want to attribute any words to him yeah yeah yeah yeah i think the the the
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conversation now is so around interracial marriage around assimilation is that it's forced upon i was
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at the bank and i saw an ad that was like a a white redhead with a black lady with a fro with
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a mexican guy and an asian guy all standing there laughing with ice cream cones right and where i've
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never seen this in reality i mean maybe maybe you see this in like the most liberal neighborhoods
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of los angeles because they're all so trying so hard to virtue signal with one another that they
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are demonstrating their own and they're all in that case very rare case they're still the common
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denominator of class they all happen to be millionaires in a gated community yes so what
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i'm saying is that we we need to assimilation needs to be organic it needs to be natural it
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needs to be um i think christianity needs to be at the top um obviously we know that as christians
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he said, yeah, I'm thinking about moving back to Korea.
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yes and he's christian and he's a man and i thought that is so awesome because he was willing
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to uh say i want to go christianize my homeland yes and so i think there's a group of people
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i'm still praying for samuel say to get that call to go christianize ghana yeah well i want that i
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love that journey for him i think that i think it's a very noble thing to do for a particular
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man i'm not it's not something you must do but i think it's something that there will be a group
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of people that might go how about i i go back to the homeland yes and christianize it so you have
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you have deportation remigration and then you have biblical assimilation which really is the
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the intentionality of transnationalism and it's losing yourself within another ethnicity yes over
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generations and you need to ask yourself the question is that honoring to my father and mother
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right right these are questions that that previous generations asked um and i'm not saying that that
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because the fifth commandment is real to honor thy father and mother and and so so theologically
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in the way that this has to be co-discerned and weighed with wisdom carefully is uh in some
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cases it's um i like i love america i love these people and i love this place and i really want
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to be here but i know that if if the answer is to be here it means true assimilation which is to
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lose myself and if if to lose myself would be a breach in my case because i come from a christian
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heritage that may not have the same degree of prosperity i like america because of its opulence
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and these kinds of certain comforts and conveniences but i come from the people that
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aren't as wealthy so it'd be easier to stay in the physical the practical the tangible but i
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actually come from a rich heritage that is christian and so i can't do like when ruth says
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your people will be my people your god my god she is by way of implication by way of consequence
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saying all my former gods are no longer god to me and all my father's house and my people are no
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longer my people and she could do that righteously because there was not a christian contingent in
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moab right so she was not forsaking a christian heritage she was forsaking a pagan one right so
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the person who wants to to stay here many of them despite wanting to stay still have to go back
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because they've entered illegally or they've committed crimes or these kinds of things or
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they've just been here for 15 minutes but for those who have been here a while but have remained
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distinct and have not truly assimilated they've married within their own class within their own
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race and these kinds of things for multiple generations and have not truly assimilated
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they either have to say, I want to stay, in which case I am willing to lose myself. Your people will
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be my people, your God my God. And to answer that question and for it to be righteous, they would
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have to be able to look at their past heritage and where they came from, their ancestors came from,
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and be able to say, this would not actually be a breach of the fifth commandment, a dishonorment
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of my father and mother because I am actually abandoning a non-Christian country. In the case
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where the the losing of themselves would be the forsaking of another christian heritage
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um then in that case they even though they love america and have been here they should seriously
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and prayerfully consider the re-immigration option that yeah yeah the re-migration yeah so
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the reason we are even having these discussions is is also because of individualism yes individualism
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doesn't take in consideration heritage at all right and so this this discussion for a lot of
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people is i'm going to marry who i want to marry because you be you right and that's that needs to
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be stripped as well so this is so many layers that's a conservative problem as a direct reaction
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to the liberals collectivism we have become hyper individualistic whereas we've forgotten we have a
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duty and obligation to our country to our people to our tribe and that's part of the christian
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nature so somewhere between collectivism and individualism is that communitarian christian
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reality. Which us Reformed folks would call covenantalism. There we go. Yeah. So I do.
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I think it's a very important dimension of this discussion is thinking generationally,
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thinking backwards generationally, thinking forwards generationally. I think the other
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exception to this discussion might be a missionary, someone who is willing to maybe sacrifice himself
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but my Christian forefathers would all stand in agreement
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It might cause him to die not producing children.
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It might cause him a variety of outcomes there.
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one thing i want to also talk about is that i don't think that immigration is the rule
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ever meaning that it's the exception throughout church history throughout world history
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immigration you might say it goes against god's normative slash ordinary plan for people's
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and cultures yeah so immigration crazy position immigration really is uh why do we have
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equator nations with lower iqs generally speaking um with trying to come to northern hemisphere
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nations with higher iqs uh what one there's and i'm not talking about christian nations i'm just
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talking about nations in general um well again they want what you have right they want what you
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have without doing the work for it so they want to take it's covetousness it's envy it's theft
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and there's all of these things being played in this reality.
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And it's, there's nothing, again, inherently wrong
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If there's a necessity, there's a desire to go to
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And to forsake your people, forsake your past gods-
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Okay, so we need to talk about hyphenated Americans.
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Just before you do, I spoke to some Mohammedans
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in the Middle East about this particular problem.
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So why, you've got 52 Mohammedan nations around the world,
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you've got Sharia, you've got the Islamic law.
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And they outright said, because we get better benefits,
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It's the capitalist entitlement that they're after.
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It's not about their faith, it's not about their ideology,
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it's just about want and need. It's greed. We saw the video recently of the Mexican immigrant that
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says, we don't like to be here. The only reason we're here is because there's more money and
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there's more opportunity, right? She said this, just said the quiet thing out loud. And so it is,
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it's a form of national theft. They're on our welfare systems. And the other part of this
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conversation around assimilation needs to be the hyphenated Americanisms. And so it's the,
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you know, Theodore Roosevelt talked about this and is great. You should look up his quote on
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hyphenated Americanism. But when he listed out, he's talking about Irish American and, you know,
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French American and German American and English American. No, we are American. What's happened is
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that we've produced parallel ethnicities or parallel identities within a nation. And this
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has caused another problem. So let's just say you go to Korea. And no, let's just say that you're a
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and you go to france and you say i i'm a korean man i want to become french i'm going to make the
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decision to change to assimilate to france i'm not going to stay there and eat my cake and the first
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thing that you should be told if if that's the case the first thing that you should be told is
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you will never be french okay so yes let's just your your great grandchildren grandchildren can be
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if you let go of everything that has to do with you being korean so what i'm saying is this is i
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want to show the gravity of the decision let's just say he goes all right i'm going to make
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change our lineage from korean to french but i'm going to move there and instead of marrying in
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to french the french people he now creates a parallel identity right and marries other koreans
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little korea in little korea and you have that's why you have chinatown like little little chinatown
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or little italy or like whatever um we need the christian prince to come and and literally no
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more legally abolish all of it yes because it creates again these are rebel uh uh alliances
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and strongholds in a nation that seeks its fracturing and division and again it functions
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to some degree in times of peace but as soon as you have times of conflict you wonder where the
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loyalties lie it's exactly why in 1945 what happened when pearl harbor was bombed they rallied
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all the japanese people because they didn't know where their loyalties lied what's happening right
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now with the iranian war well now people are worried about the iranian sleeper cells that
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are here that are now killing people in austin and that are now stabbing people on trains and
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immigration is an ideal that works under only unique peacetime eras right but the moment there's
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global conflict everyone returns to their factories correct well speaking of christian
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princes it was only last year that you guys got an official language of english up until that
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point you could have multiple language in fact i see signs everywhere in this country it's like
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english then spanish i'm like what country am i in even on our voting booths it's insane that's
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like you know a country's been conquered when in the voting booth there are different languages
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we've got a similar thing with our tubes our underground railway system we've got bangladeshi
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signs in places now yeah it's crazy so um there's a lot of work to be done but again it's it's not
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rocket science i don't think that the problem is complexity the problem is political will
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do we actually people it's funny i talk to christians all the time and like we we need
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revival so badly we need revival and i'm you know i'm here for it like lord please send revival
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um but we need you know for god to send revival we need hearts for revival um but i feel like in
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this day and age uh what's required is the stomachs for revival we don't have the will
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We've just discovered that all the conspiracy theories
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we've believed for the last hundred years are true.
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Like, this is the most evil you can conceive of.
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The vast majority of people in this country
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We're not angry enough at the evil in our world
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I just released a video on Axe that was talking about this,
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We got in wars over a 3% increased tax on tea.
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And now you're giving your taxes to pedophiles, quite literally.
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of very little instigation for massive reactions.
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but today we are having little reaction to massive implications it's the young men are mad
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um and people change when the pain of staying the same is more painful than the pain of just
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changing yes and so so we're at this point where we need more pain and when young men can't marry
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because everyone's a feminist when they can't have a job that gets paid well because the economy
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with the immigrants um when they can't buy a home until they're 50 and they have a 50-year mortgage
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the young men start to get frustrated and they're starting to return to some of that factory setting
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and we're seeing that if you're age 30 and below like our church our church is basically 95 percent
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people under the age of 40 and it's because we have a generation that's seen this this pain
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and they're ready to respond but they don't have quite the power yet right that's our next
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conversation i think is uh what does it take to garner the will to change uh right now we have
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some young men who are getting angry and we have ministers promptly telling them to stop
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whereas my concern as a minister is that the young men of our nation are not nearly angry enough
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oh man so let's talk about that in our next episode we hope that you've been blessed by
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this episode. Thanks for tuning in, and we will catch you soon.