The NXR Podcast - THE SPECIAL - The Particular Sins of Particular People (w⧸Nick Fuentes) - EP5

00:00:00.000 really when you think about it jew and gentile is a whole other category besides ethnicity and race

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00:00:21.380 in a spiritual sense are higher we're chosen they are beasts that look like people right and 0.94

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00:03:04.520 Radical Christian nationalist pastor, Joel Webin.

00:03:08.540 Joel Webin?

00:03:09.740 I'm going to talk about Joel Webin.

00:03:11.280 Joe Webbin is an accident.

00:03:31.520 All right, this episode is going to be just a little bit different.

00:03:35.260 I'm going to kind of as a launching pad, read something that I wrote and then just give

00:03:40.140 you the floor you could talk literally the rest of the entire episode so if you can just give me

00:03:44.500 maybe two three minutes to get the thought out and then i just i want to hear what you think

00:03:49.420 because some of this um i've heard you say and you've been you know of this mind longer than i

00:03:55.460 have and so i you know it's like hey you know i i um i've been j-pilled for 15 minutes you know and

00:04:01.360 what do you think nick so if i could do that is that all right sounds good okay here we go

00:04:05.900 Diagnosis. I believe that by way of divine providence, the earth is filled with not only

00:04:12.060 unique individual people, but unique and distinct peoples, nations, race, etc. I'm not a fatalist

00:04:18.280 or determinist. I believe that people can change. I also believe peoples can change,

00:04:24.040 that peoples, groups of people can change, but this happens slowly over the course of generations.

00:04:29.120 I also believe it is biblically permissible, and in some cases even righteous, since we are

00:04:34.160 commanded to exercise godly discernment to recognize or to notice different strengths

00:04:40.060 and weaknesses of both individual people and collective peoples. Regarding collective peoples,

00:04:45.620 this discernment should be understood as a viewpoint regarding generalities. It's not

00:04:50.400 universal. There's always exceptions. Furthermore, in terms of general weaknesses, I believe those

00:04:56.840 of European descent are generally marked, at least modern Europeans today, generally marked by 0.99

00:05:02.180 cowardice, moral passivity, and suicidal empathy. They regularly are content to prioritize the 1.00

00:05:09.420 foreigner over even the welfare of their own children. Boomers, though not all boomers,

00:05:15.520 have displayed this particular trait to the uttermost. Furthermore, I believe those of 1.00

00:05:21.440 Jewish descent are generally marked by subversion, deceit, and greed. Exceptions, but a general 1.00

00:05:28.300 weakness. Politically speaking, I believe Israel has had devastatingly negative influence on 0.83

00:05:34.700 America, and I do not want our children to fight their wars, and I do not want them lobbying in 1.00

00:05:40.140 our politics or having an outsized influence on our culture. Religiously speaking, I believe that

00:05:46.800 Judaism is anti-Christ. I believe it is not only evil, but a pernicious evil. I fully recognize 1.00

00:05:53.600 that many Jews are secular and do not practice Judaism. However, just as many Americans today 0.73

00:05:59.940 do not profess to be Christian, America was profoundly shaped by Christian thought and

00:06:04.800 Christian values. Likewise, Israel has been deeply shaped by a religion that has at its foundation

00:06:11.540 a complete rejection of Christ. Therefore, a people shaped by a rejection of the Logos, 0.77

00:06:18.160 literally a rejection of logic. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the

00:06:23.320 word was God, that rejection, they will have at least to some degree a hostility towards God's

00:06:30.940 natural order, not just Christ, but the world that Christ made. They will resist and at times

00:06:37.040 even seek to subvert natural distinctions and natural hierarchy. This is why I furthermore

00:06:43.500 believe that liberalism, at least in its modern form, especially in the 20th century, is largely 0.85

00:06:49.900 a Jewish project. The engine of liberalism is egalitarianism, the quest to flatten all natural 0.93

00:06:57.900 distinctions, men and women, individuals, and even nations. I believe that liberalism, especially

00:07:04.180 modern liberalism, is arguably the single biggest threat to the world, and particularly America

00:07:09.800 and the church today. And I believe that Israel is one of the most adamant proponents and defenders 0.89

00:07:16.220 of liberalism. Prescriptions? What do we do? Number one, I believe a godly Christian can hold

00:07:23.440 all the views I mentioned above without sin. I firmly reject any ideology that would mistreat

00:07:29.360 or persecute an entire people. I do not support those who would call for physical harm or violence

00:07:35.660 to a particular people universally, collectively, every single one of them, without fair trials and

00:07:42.140 the objective proof of individual guilt of an actual crime and not merely sin. Those who follow

00:07:48.420 me on FedPost about physically harming Jews are either feds, bots, or retarded. You will be 1.00

00:07:55.520 promptly blocked. Second, I want to see a national ban on pornography, exorbitant forms of usury

00:08:01.920 that prey on the poor, and dual citizenship from any country for those who hold civil office here 0.96

00:08:08.160 in America, but I recognize that this would disproportionately affect Jews. And then third, 0.63

00:08:14.200 I believe that many individual people and collective peoples would humanely self-deport

00:08:19.760 if we banned those things I aforementioned. I further believe that these people groups

00:08:25.620 would self-deport disproportionately. Jews in America would leave, I believe, at a higher rate

00:08:31.260 than other groups, with many Jews who truly love our country and our values choosing to stay behind. 0.91

00:08:37.680 And then lastly, I want to see America break ties with Israel in terms of geopolitics. 0.98

00:08:43.920 I do not believe that they are our ally. 1.00

00:08:46.200 That's pretty much my position on Jews. 1.00

00:08:49.480 What do you think? 1.00

00:08:50.640 I agree with a lot of that.

00:08:52.480 And I agree with the lens interpreting the relationship between Christians and Jews through the lens of civilizations.

00:09:02.380 Because that's really how I started to think about the issue.

00:09:05.040 is when I got started becoming a conservative,

00:09:08.280 the phrase I always heard was Judeo-Christian. 0.95

00:09:11.240 And I think that's really the beginning of it

00:09:13.160 for a lot of people,

00:09:14.160 is people hear this repeated over and over,

00:09:16.980 Judeo-Christian values, Judeo-Christian civilization.

00:09:21.000 They say Western civilization's Judeo-Christian.

00:09:24.040 And a lot of times when people think about

00:09:25.940 what a conservative is or right wing is,

00:09:28.060 they say it's Judeo-Christian.

00:09:30.820 And for me, when I turned roughly 18,

00:09:34.180 i thought about the term because i didn't just mindlessly repeat this i said how actually can 0.70

00:09:40.860 this be is is this not a contradiction in terms because to be jewish is to reject christ right

00:09:47.040 to be a christian is to embrace christ and people don't typically think of it this way but

00:09:52.920 judaism forks when christ arrives christianity comes from judaism and emerges from judaism

00:10:01.840 And then what we call Judaism today emerges from the events of the Passion, which is the splitting of the veil, the destruction of the temple, the expulsion of the Jews from the Holy Land, and the end of temple worship as the Jewish people. 0.72

00:10:15.780 And so from that Jewish community, you get the Christians, and then you get the Jews.

00:10:21.860 and what's really interesting about the term there's the theological contradiction which is

00:10:27.080 that some embraced christ and said there's no need for the temple sacrifice we have the ultimate

00:10:32.460 sacrifice the others said one day we'll return we'll rebuild the temple we'll come back to the

00:10:38.300 holy land outside the obvious theological contradiction is the history which i don't

00:10:43.360 even think people know because when you hear judeo-christian you tend to think that things

00:10:48.920 have always been the way they are in America. Because in the United States of America, you've

00:10:53.220 had, with some exceptions, notably Christians and Jews largely living together, especially for the 0.60

00:11:00.660 past hundred years, and Jews being assimilated. For the most part, we think they're assimilated

00:11:06.200 into America. But the history of Europe, could you imagine going back to the 1500s and telling

00:11:13.080 the Jews and Christians then about a Judeo-Christian civilization? They would say, I don't know what

00:11:18.180 you're talking about because for thousands of years the historical experience of the Jews and

00:11:24.800 Christians is that they've been in conflict basically in a state of constant conflict

00:11:29.440 starting with the Roman Empire's destruction of the temple the Jewish rebellions led against the

00:11:35.740 Roman Empire and then the expulsion of the Jews from Palestine that's how it starts

00:11:40.140 and I learned about this after I started to see there were a few notable pictures I think one

00:11:48.000 was posted by brett weinstein or maybe his brother eric of him flipping off the arch of titus

00:11:53.660 in italy there he is flipping off it's a it's a point of view he's showing his middle finger to

00:11:59.680 the arch and i said what's going on in this picture and the arch of titus is built to

00:12:05.280 commemorate the attack well not the attack but the suppression of the rebellion by the jews in

00:12:11.980 Israel, taking their stuff, pushing the people out. According to the Jews, hundreds of thousands 0.54

00:12:18.100 died. They talk about it like it's another Holocaust, basically. But this one happened

00:12:22.540 2000 years ago. And many people don't even know about these events, that this was extremely

00:12:27.020 traumatic, extremely violent. This is how really you could argue medieval and then modern civilization

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00:14:26.180 named Adam King. And he believes that underneath the Vatican are all the treasures that the Roman

00:14:32.160 Empire stole from Israel. They're like giant menorah, they're a library. He believes that

00:14:38.100 when the Jewish Messiah comes, he will destroy modern Rome, which is the church, and Western 0.84

00:14:44.740 Europe, which is sort of interesting because if you're being told about this Judeo-Christian 0.94

00:14:49.160 civilization, it seems like these are in conflict, actually. The Roman Empire and Israel from the

00:14:55.660 start then the jews are expelled and and to me this is maybe the most essential characteristic 1.00

00:15:02.620 is that they're a wandering people unlike the franks the goths the romans there are people with 0.98

00:15:11.080 no homeland no no native land to call their own so they're dispersed from palestine into europe 0.99

00:15:18.360 and they're unwelcome there because they're ethnic outsiders religious outsiders and they're a 0.99

00:15:24.200 minority. This is what shapes their experience in Europe. And as a minority in many of these

00:15:30.900 Western kingdoms, they're not given the same rights. They're not integrated. We tend to think,

00:15:38.040 and again, this is our bias, that everything is like America. Everything is tolerant. Everyone's

00:15:43.020 integrated and assimilated. People don't realize that for thousands of years, Jews existed

00:15:48.020 segregated from everybody else in their own communities, speaking a different language

00:15:53.660 with their own courts, their own laws,

00:15:56.300 different rights under the law, different roles.

00:15:59.500 In many countries, their land ownership was restricted.

00:16:03.460 Right.

00:16:04.140 Couldn't have certain positions, couldn't be farmers.

00:16:06.500 Which is why they kind of geared towards banking.

00:16:08.940 Money changing, right.

00:16:10.520 They were, in many cases, artisans, craftsmen.

00:16:13.940 They were segregated into specific towns

00:16:16.080 as opposed to the countryside or the major cities.

00:16:19.600 And through this segregation, naturally,

00:16:23.660 they come in a conflict with the Christian hosts.

00:16:26.860 And for hundreds of years,

00:16:29.600 again, this is something that's kind of becoming known now.

00:16:33.600 People talk about 108, 109 countries

00:16:37.140 they've been expelled from.

00:16:38.620 For hundreds of years,

00:16:40.360 they are being literally expelled wholesale

00:16:43.420 from entire nations,

00:16:45.280 from England, Spain, France, Italy.

00:16:48.620 For hundreds of years,

00:16:49.960 there were no Jews living in England

00:16:51.640 because king edward in 1290 said jews are banned from living here and they all leave

00:16:57.920 and until 1650 not a single jew resides in the entire country so for hundreds of years

00:17:04.920 they're being forcibly converted expelled segregated there's a dual law like an apartheid

00:17:13.480 system they have different rights and laws and over the years they're always moving around from

00:17:18.580 Palestine into Western Europe, from Western Europe to the Netherlands, Netherlands back to

00:17:24.780 England, many of them moving over to Poland, then in Russia. And throughout this time,

00:17:29.280 they're subject to what they call a blood libel, angry mobs, pogroms, all these different abusive

00:17:35.100 policies. This is a Judeo-Christian civilization. Now, maybe Jews and Christians live side by side

00:17:42.860 for thousands of years, and it's certainly a complicated history, and it's a diverse and

00:17:47.340 it's a long history. But the idea that it's a unified history, that it's a hyphenated history,

00:17:53.360 it has no basis in reality. And I think people just don't know the facts.

00:17:58.240 And over this time, it engenders, of course, deep resentment. And it goes both ways.

00:18:04.460 And what's interesting is that in modern times, of course, it's like everything else. We always

00:18:10.140 talk about racism and anti-Semitism, but it's only ever proceeding from white Christian men. 0.99

00:18:16.560 White Christian men are inherently violent and cruel and prejudiced against the Africans, against Muslims, against the indigenous, against the Jews. 0.99

00:18:26.000 But that hatred goes both ways. 0.99

00:18:28.860 The indigenous Americans were at war with the colonizers and scalped them and skinned them alive. 0.87

00:18:34.380 The Muslims took Christian slaves and were at war and invaded Europe.

00:18:39.620 Similarly, the Jews, they were expelled. 0.75

00:18:43.660 They were treated with cruelty.

00:18:44.920 They were segregated, and that engendered a lot of hatred among them against the Romans, against ethnic Europeans, against Christians.

00:18:57.740 And you see this in many of the controversies. 0.79

00:19:01.100 One of the criticisms of the Jews is they said that they would sacrifice Christian children or that they would kill Christians. 1.00

00:19:08.480 I don't find that hard to believe. 0.98

00:19:10.400 I think that if Jews are a minority, the wandering minority, if they're being subjected to a double standard in the law, if they're being segregated, is it outside the question that they hate their Christian hosts, that they might kill some of them? 0.85

00:19:28.240 They might do it in secret or in a conspiratorial way? 0.96

00:19:31.120 I don't find that hard to believe. 0.58

00:19:32.800 And so 2,000 years characterized as Judeo-Christian, in reality, it's a history of Jewish-Christian conflict.

00:19:40.400 And it happens to be occurring, the venue for this is Europe and Christendom, but there's

00:19:45.900 never an integration ever.

00:19:48.240 It's not until the 19th century, excuse me, when Napoleon arrives, and people don't even 0.60

00:19:54.420 know the history on this, Napoleon, with his French Revolution and the Napoleonic Legal

00:20:00.040 Code, emancipates the Jews. 0.51

00:20:02.920 And for hundreds of years prior to that, the Jews are living in these segregated towns 0.80

00:20:08.020 where they have their own courts.

00:20:09.960 They have their own laws. They speak Yiddish. They don't have the same rights. Napoleon comes along, emancipates them. And for the first time in Western Europe, they're allowed to integrate and assimilate. And as Napoleon invades Europe in the Napoleonic Wars, he brings the legal code with him as he sweeps across Western, Central, Eastern Europe, emancipating and liberating the Jews.

00:20:34.480 And so the situation in the late 19th century, which is kind of where the current situation emerges, is this. The vast majority of Jews are actually living in Russia because the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth before that, that was the only place the Jews were given full legal equality.

00:20:53.420 So all the Jews that were expelled and kicked out of Western Europe, most of them end up in Poland and Lithuania, which is then annexed by Russia.

00:21:01.920 So they find themselves mostly in Russia because of this historic situation. 0.64

00:21:07.080 After Napoleon's wars, there are some Jews in Western Europe, and they begin to become powerful because of assimilation.

00:21:14.300 They start to identify as English, French, German. 0.52

00:21:17.440 They serve in parliament.

00:21:18.940 They have professional jobs.

00:21:20.680 they become nationalistic for the various countries. They become very rich and powerful.

00:21:26.540 You have a small minority of Jews, assimilated, rich, powerful, living in Western Europe. 0.95

00:21:32.180 Most of them, however, are living in the Pale of Settlement in Russia. They're living in these 1.00

00:21:37.160 shtetls in towns. They're being attacked by angry mobs. The Tsar of Russia hates them.

00:21:43.500 And the Jews of Europe are in this predicament where it seems that in the West, they're becoming

00:21:48.280 assimilated and may disappear. But in the East, it's untenable because they're constantly being 1.00

00:21:53.180 accused of murdering Christians or constantly being attacked by the government and by angry

00:21:57.740 mobs. This is where Zionism is born. And the Zionists say, we will never be safe unless we 0.98

00:22:07.220 have our own country. We'll never protect our own identity unless we have our own country. 0.74

00:22:12.740 We need a place where we can be safe. We need a place where we could be Jewish.

00:22:16.580 Jewish, we need a place where we could be safe as Jews. And so they resolve at the end of the 19th

00:22:22.620 century then to colonize Palestine. Now, at the same time in Russia, the situation is heating up.

00:22:29.560 The pogroms are intensifying. Attacks on Jews are intensifying. And the conditions are very bad. The

00:22:35.500 country is poor in general. The autocracy is failing. They start fleeing to the United States.

00:22:42.100 And so what happens in the 20th century is that the Jews, who used to mostly live in Russia and some in Western Europe, now they're heading to the United States. 0.86

00:22:51.140 And the United States becomes the capital of Jewry. 0.88

00:22:54.320 And increasingly, as they settle Palestine, Israel becomes another center of power. 0.90

00:22:58.640 And it's only in the last 100 years that you have this situation where most of the world's Jews are living in America and in Israel. 0.75

00:23:06.540 and now that we have this arrangement between america and israel of america supporting israel

00:23:13.760 and israel influencing america it's only in this context and especially since world war ii

00:23:19.320 that now they push this calculated line that we've always been together that jews and christians

00:23:25.860 have always gotten along throughout the history of western civilization like they have in the last

00:23:31.240 let's say, 70 years in America. That was never the case. And so I would say that when you

00:23:37.460 sort of understand, and that's just a very rough sketch, when you understand the history of Jews 0.97

00:23:43.240 and Europeans, you realize that we might be able to coexist, but we can never truly integrate 0.98

00:23:51.260 because Jews are not Christians and they're not Europeans. And they never identified that way. 1.00

00:23:57.160 And as a matter of fact, they're hostile to both, theologically inconsistent with Christianity

00:24:02.040 and historically have animosity against the Europeans.

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00:25:45.000 What the Catholic Church says about the Jews, they've written many encyclicals on this over

00:25:51.080 the years, they call as the Jews. They say that Jews will not have access to salvation without

00:25:57.540 Christ. It's still, there's one door. It says, but we should not forcibly convert them. We should

00:26:04.620 give them dignity and respect. They should have basic rights. But we also do recognize that they

00:26:10.920 are subversive. Because they're disconnected from Christ, they're disconnected from God.

00:26:15.340 And so I guess my position to sum it up is that, like you, I don't want to be cruel against Jews.

00:26:22.580 I don't hate them. I don't want to destroy them. I don't even think that's possible.

00:26:26.840 We consider them a witness people. They're a witness to the crucifixion. But certainly,

00:26:32.060 we have to recognize them as fundamentally aliens and outsiders. And I don't think we should 0.99

00:26:37.060 try to assimilate them. I don't think we can, but certainly we can't treat them as indistinguishable

00:26:43.640 from other Christians or other Europeans. Right. I agree. It's a pretty massive difference. 0.95

00:26:49.180 And yet with all these other false religions that are demonic in their own right, all false 0.96

00:26:54.740 religions lead to hell. It's like with every false religion, Christians, you know, stand 1.00

00:27:01.200 strongly, adamantly against it. And yet we have this weird carve out. Whereas I feel like the 1.00

00:27:08.060 argument can be made that Islam has a view of Christ. They deny his deity. They don't believe 1.00

00:27:15.980 that he's God, but they still esteem him as a prophet. And I despise Islam. But my point is 1.00

00:27:22.840 Islam sees Jesus as a pretty good guy. Buddhism sees Jesus as a pretty good guy. Hinduism sees

00:27:31.040 jesus as a pretty good guy uh judaism sees jesus in hell a blasphemer um maybe some some human 0.97

00:27:39.960 excrement thrown in there you know depending what you're reading uh and and we pick that false 0.92

00:27:47.020 religion of all the false religions to be our greatest ally as as christian nations as christian

00:27:52.520 people it just doesn't make sense no and and i don't even think people understand the lengths

00:27:58.780 that they go to the jews and their hatred of christians people don't even realize they hate 0.57

00:28:03.740 christians but if you go through and and i've i have not read the talmud this is always the

00:28:09.900 gotcha because they say if you read the talmud and they say it's thousands of pages and it mostly

00:28:14.380 deals with um it's a legal code it's rabbis debating how to interpret the the various

00:28:19.080 commandments in the old testament and so they say most of it is pretty uh it's minutia it's um

00:28:24.840 That's true. Trivial. But if you read even some of what Israelis or Jews write about the Talmud, it's very clear that the way that the rabbinical Jewish religion sees Christians is as idolaters, which is interesting because that is the same reason that Muslims hate Christians.

00:28:44.080 because i've debated with some muslims and you know there's some commonalities like you said i

00:28:50.200 think muslims are more sympathetic to christians because they consider us people of the book

00:28:54.380 and they consider christ to be a prophet they consider him to be a messiah technically right

00:28:59.680 they can't really define what messiah means they consider him like a major prophet which prefigures

00:29:04.680 muhammad but why they theologically disagree with christianity is they believe in taweed which is

00:29:12.920 one god that's why they raised the finger it's all about allah and so they see the triune god

00:29:19.380 the holy spirit and jesus christ as a form of idolatry so the the formal problem they have

00:29:25.440 is that we're idolaters jews view us in exactly the same way because they worshiping yahweh

00:29:31.780 see the deification of christ as a form of idolatry and what they interpret in the talmud

00:29:38.460 from the old testament is that they cannot praise idolaters so it says you cannot say

00:29:46.840 kind things about christians it says you have to spit when passing their cemeteries

00:29:54.060 or their houses of worship you can't enter into one of their houses of worship

00:29:58.960 and they will even go into they say some sex of christianity they will go into the house of

00:30:04.880 worship if they don't see Christ as God, because that is where they draw the line. And it extends

00:30:11.200 even further into intermarrying. It extends further into killing. They believe that if an

00:30:17.220 idolater is in peril and might die, a Jewish person has no obligation to save them because

00:30:23.420 they see idolaters as the enemy. And there is something interesting about the Old Testament 0.55

00:30:28.080 and the New Testament. And you're the expert. I'm not a theological expert on this or a biblical

00:30:33.580 expert by any stretch. I don't believe, although it's prefigured, I don't believe that you see an

00:30:40.180 explicit message in the Old Testament that's all about forgiveness and turning the other cheek.

00:30:46.100 I don't think you see a message like, forgive them, they know not what they do. You see a lot

00:30:51.540 more of the Amalekites need to be destroyed, kill the women, the children, salt the earth. 1.00

00:30:58.140 And I think that's borne out in the way the Israelis treat the Palestinians and the way 1.00

00:31:02.400 that they treat the former nazis who they hunted down or any of their enemies and so what you have

00:31:09.260 is a religion which many jews today are very secular but regardless for thousands of years

00:31:15.040 their religion is literally set against it with a seething hatred against christ and christianity 0.89

00:31:21.440 and and there's no identity that can be achieved between us that's not a little brother or an older

00:31:27.580 brother, that's adversarial. Right. I agree. Yeah. That's part of what I was reading at the

00:31:33.560 beginning. Um, I mean, you can go to, you know, nations all over the world and, um, you know,

00:31:40.760 you can tell, uh, one pastor said, uh, you can tell which nations have been affected by Christodom,

00:31:47.180 uh, by simply coming to a four-way stop and seeing how they, how they handle it. Um, is it

00:31:53.460 might makes right, you know, or is there even the concept of courtesy or order, you know,

00:32:00.900 organization, those kinds of things. And, and I, yeah, I just, you know, the people will say,

00:32:07.280 well, you know, so many Jews don't even practice Judaism. And that's true. But in the same way that 1.00

00:32:13.940 we have so many people in America that have not ever darkened the doorway of a church in their

00:32:20.800 entire lives, or maybe they've gone once or twice and would not even profess to be Christians,

00:32:26.180 much less living like one. Still, just by virtue of being born and raised in America, 0.93

00:32:33.660 whether you're conscious of it or not, every American has been shaped by Christian thought,

00:32:40.400 Christian values, Christian doctrine. We take these things for granted. We just think that

00:32:45.320 we're enlightened, you know, and that it somehow just, I don't know, just always was, but it wasn't.

00:32:51.780 These things had to be learned. We had to learn courtesy. We, we, we developed, we improved,

00:32:58.820 we had to be shaped and it was religion that shaped us. And, and so I think every, you know,

00:33:05.240 culture, the Latin word cultists, worship, every single society, every nation, every people,

00:33:12.180 their culture is very much shaped by their religion, whether, you know, future generations

00:33:20.620 are adherent practicers of the religion or not. So to say that, because that's kind of the excuse

00:33:28.560 that I'll hear a lot of people, Christians, using to try to carve out, you know, exceptions and 0.68

00:33:33.600 make defenses for Jews, as they'll say, well, yeah, I guess Judaism isn't great, you know,

00:33:40.100 Um, but you know, it's only a, a 20% or 30% of Jews that actually are practicing Judaism.

00:33:47.340 Um, so the rest of them, you know, they're okay. 0.83

00:33:50.740 And I would say, yeah, no, but the whole culture, the whole people have been shaped, uh, by 0.84

00:33:57.540 Judaism and at its core, uh, it's like, well, what's, what's the core distinctive of Judaism? 0.83

00:34:04.400 Hatred of Jesus Christ. 0.97

00:34:06.460 It's a hatred of Jesus Christ.

00:34:08.240 And, and then even when you look at the Talmud, which is 6,000 pages, you know, and there's

00:34:12.540 the Babylonian Talmud and the Jerusalem Talmud.

00:34:16.000 And so I understand that, like, there's, it's different than the Bible.

00:34:19.040 They, you know, certain passages would have more weight and trump other passages of the

00:34:22.820 Bible or the Talmud.

00:34:25.240 But the whole practice, it's litigation. 1.00

00:34:27.720 It's what Judaism is. 0.96

00:34:29.060 It's so fundamentally, it's a, it's a rejection, hatred of Christ. 1.00

00:34:32.040 And in addition to that, it's, I mean, it really is the religion of lawyers. 0.95

00:34:37.120 like it really is you know it makes sense that you know the jews you know going into banking 0.63

00:34:42.020 you know or going into um to legal profession um but that's and even when jesus arrived that's

00:34:49.040 another thing that i think christians miss is when jesus arrives on the scene in his his earthly

00:34:53.880 ministry um judaism is already off the rails right so after the book of malachi at the end of the

00:35:00.640 old testament it says the word of the lord was rare and the skies had turned to brass or bronze

00:35:06.180 meaning that for 400 years in between kind of like the the completion of the prophets

00:35:13.700 and the coming of christ you have 400 years where god is pretty much silent and and during those

00:35:21.980 400 years the religious rulers in israel got busy and you know the word of the lord is rare

00:35:28.520 and there's not a lot of divine intervention during that time and uh and they start constructing

00:35:34.640 their own way of doing things. So when Jesus shows up, notice he doesn't say, people always

00:35:40.760 think of like legalism. They'll think the problem, you know, is legalist, you know, Pharisees are

00:35:45.720 legalist. Jesus' favorite word for the Pharisees and the Sanhedrin, Sadducees, the lawyers,

00:35:52.960 it literally said scribes and lawyers, bean counters. That's what they were. His favorite

00:35:58.680 word was not, oh, you legalist. It was, oh, you hypocrites. He even says, do as they say, 1.00

00:36:06.120 but not as they do. And then he begins to tell how they've twisted the law of God. It's not that

00:36:14.420 they care too much for the law of God. That's the point I'm trying to make. And this is 2,000 years

00:36:19.240 ago. So 400 years of God being quiet, Judaism getting way off the rails already 2,000 years 0.99

00:36:27.840 ago in christ coming and and it's even then uh jesus is not saying you care so much for the law 0.91

00:36:34.760 of god no it's the traditions and laws of men that you've you've placed heavy burdens on the people

00:36:40.600 and you've added all your commentary like whenever jesus is preaching um the crowds

00:36:45.740 you know the gospel narratives will always say they marveled because he spoke as one with who

00:36:50.880 had authority. If you had told Stephen, as stones were crushing his body, that he was dying for a

00:36:58.280 shared Judeo-Christian foundation, he would have called it blasphemy. The first martyr died

00:37:04.600 proclaiming Christ alone, not a hyphenated faith shared with those who killed the Lord Jesus

00:37:10.560 and the prophets and who drove out the apostles and, as the apostle Paul declared, oppose all

00:37:17.740 mankind learn why the church has always stood apart in the hyphenated heresy judeo-christianity

00:37:26.000 reclaim the faith of the martyrs and pick up your copy today at amazon.com

00:37:32.060 and it's like well what does that mean like when jesus spoke like was it just like he

00:37:38.700 the dude had aura you know like maybe you know but isaiah also says like there was nothing

00:37:43.560 outstanding about his appearance that we should, you know, it's like Jesus didn't have like the

00:37:47.980 paint. He didn't have a glow. Um, his divinity was concealed. The amount of transfiguration,

00:37:53.800 the human, you know, the human nature is pulled back temporarily and, and the divine, you know,

00:37:58.220 becomes apparent. But other than that, um, you know, when Jesus speaks with authority,

00:38:02.700 it's not like a supernatural, like his voice is, you know, several decimals higher than the average

00:38:08.120 human voice or um no it's it's the his manner of speaking and and what most commentators and

00:38:14.440 biblical scholars will say is that uh what what made his speaking distinct from all the jewish

00:38:19.260 leaders and authoritative is that they would always have to appeal to someone else and say

00:38:24.540 well rabbi so-and-so says and rabbi and and so be like long before they ever got to moses

00:38:29.840 it would be you know like um well the law moses says this and so-and-so added this and so-and-so

00:38:37.840 commentating on so-and-so added this and this and this. And so then by the time you, like the

00:38:42.060 telephone game, by the time you get to the Jews, and again, this is at Jesus's time. It's well, 0.99

00:38:47.900 you know, it's not swearing by the temple, but swearing by the gold of the temple. And then

00:38:54.080 you're bound to your oath. Or, you know, it's not swearing by this, but if you swear by that,

00:39:00.800 then you have to keep your word. It like basically the equivalent of like a toddler

00:39:05.180 saying yes to his mom and dad when they give him a command,

00:39:08.940 but then not obeying.

00:39:10.420 And when they questioned him, he said,

00:39:11.640 well, I had my fingers crossed behind my back. 1.00

00:39:13.700 Like classic Jewish move, you know, just classic. 0.93

00:39:17.080 But my point is that was at the time of Jesus. 0.99

00:39:20.560 That was at the time of Jesus.

00:39:21.620 So Jesus shows up and he's like, this isn't Judaism. 0.93

00:39:26.240 This is not worship of the true God. 0.77

00:39:29.760 This is not Moses.

00:39:31.740 um and and so then jesus would just cut through all the bs and get right back to the source you

00:39:37.640 know and so when jesus says you have heard it said but i tell you he's not pitting himself

00:39:42.200 against moses he's like moses spoke for god he was a genuine prophet uh but he's saying you've

00:39:47.840 heard it said meaning all your rabbis all your commentators and the ways that they twisted and 0.76

00:39:52.520 perverted moses but i'm going to get back to the source and now we're 2 000 years removed even from

00:39:58.780 that, um, with 6,000 page Talmud and all, all these different things where like, you can drive

00:40:05.320 around on the Sabbath because we put a wire outside of the city of Manhattan and that counts

00:40:09.860 as a wall. And so technically you're never leaving your house because it's a big house.

00:40:13.800 You know, like, it's like, that is so Jewish, you know, like that. And so, so Judaism, I guess those 0.97

00:40:19.820 two big things I would say, number one, fundamentally a rejection of Christ and Christ 0.98

00:40:23.960 is the word. That's what I was trying to get at. And in the beginning was the word, the word was

00:40:27.620 with god and the word there like even in the greek it's it's the logos um he is the logic

00:40:33.360 right faith christian faith and and and reason are not at odds with one another um and so like

00:40:39.980 god made an orderly world because he's a god of order he's a logical god the rejection of the

00:40:46.040 living logic um is is that if that's a fundamental characteristic of of a people that's going to be

00:40:55.280 those people are going to be wild right that's like that's like really like hey we're starting

00:41:00.240 a civilization what's it founded on the rejection of logic okay and so like what are you going to

00:41:05.480 be doing we're going to be clipping coins that's not the only thing we're going to try to do but

00:41:09.000 we'll also try to split the atom you know like i mean like the things that that they gravitate

00:41:13.840 towards is like could we uh could we blow up i mean we can blow up a town but could we blow up

00:41:18.680 a whole country you know let's let's get our best scientist on it you know and um and he's kind of

00:41:24.080 you know, and even so much of the wealth building is just, it's literally splitting the penny,

00:41:28.840 splitting the penny. Like, Hey, a real transaction just took place where someone had a tangible good

00:41:33.880 that they worked for and someone else bought it at a reasonable price. But what if us producing

00:41:38.280 nothing could come in and take a piece of this somehow, you know, and, and, and, but that's 0.87

00:41:42.420 like, that is Jewish. That's, that's, that is the Pharisees. The heart of it is like, how can I, 0.94

00:41:47.640 I gave someone my word, but I don't actually want to keep it. I swore by the temple. Oh,

00:41:52.160 but I didn't swear by the gold of the temple, you know, like,

00:41:54.860 and Jesus is calling them out for this back then.

00:41:58.140 But now it's been 2000 years of rejecting him and 2000 years without even

00:42:03.480 being able to practice biblical Judaism. There's no temple. 0.57

00:42:06.480 There can be no sacrifice. Like, and, and we think it would be better.

00:42:10.280 So now, you know, after rejecting Jesus for 1900 years, right.

00:42:14.960 Coming to the end of the 18th, 19th century.

00:42:18.440 Now we're ready for a partnership. Judeo-Christian.

00:42:22.160 it just it literally doesn't make any sense what i guess my question is what how did that switch

00:42:30.000 like how did because europeans christians kind of knew what was up for a long time even the

00:42:35.480 protestants right martin luther last book he wrote uh the jews and their lives you know like he he

00:42:41.060 kind of knew what was up um because they would go in the reformers because the vulgate the latin you

00:42:45.620 know catholic bible the reformers were pretty suspicious of you guys you know and like i think

00:42:50.500 they changed some of the language and so we need to go back to the original manuscripts and and

00:42:54.420 learn the hebrew well nobody knew the hebrew so they so the reformers actually kind of our fault 0.65

00:43:01.040 a little bit but like we kind of brought in some of the jews right um and we brought them in because 1.00

00:43:05.720 we needed them to teach us how to read the hebrew because we didn't trust the catholics 1.00

00:43:08.920 but then luther you know once learning how to read the hebrew and i mean that's one of the big 0.99

00:43:13.480 things that luther did was he put um he put the bible in the vulgar right just the common tongue

00:43:19.960 of, of German. Um, and which Catholics did not want people being able to read the Bible.

00:43:25.760 I have some things that I could say about that, you know, but you know, so, so he does it and he

00:43:30.680 makes some Jewish pals along the way, but now he can read and speak Hebrew. And so then he's like,

00:43:36.320 well, let's, let's read your book and reads the Talmud. He's like, what the, right. And that's

00:43:41.480 what kept happening with the reformers is like, they would, they would befriend Jews to help them

00:43:46.060 get back to the original Hebrew for Bible translations and different languages and

00:43:49.760 commentaries and things like that. And then they would take that knowledge now that the Jews gave 0.98

00:43:53.920 them and then they would read the Jewish religious text and then they would kick out the Jews. 0.98

00:43:57.840 Right. And it became, you know, kind of a, kind of a, just a cycle of happening again and again.

00:44:03.420 But the point is the Catholics, uh, even the reformers, especially the early ones like Luther 0.84

00:44:09.140 Europeans, not non-Christian Europeans, everybody kind of was like, yeah, the Jews are not our 0.58

00:44:15.760 greatest ally right until what happened what's that until peace like why why did all of a sudden

00:44:22.220 we do an about face i think by definition it's liberalism i think it was the advent of liberalism

00:44:29.280 because what emancipated the jews was revolutionary france there was a napoleonic legal code and he

00:44:36.000 recreated the sanhedrin in paris literally recreated the jewish leadership and um and it

00:44:43.040 went back and forth there was some pushback on the emancipation and and so the record of napoleon

00:44:47.940 is somewhat mixed on them but i think it all goes back to the fall of the kings the fall of the

00:44:53.820 catholic kings or the christian kings of europe because you're right they called them disputations

00:44:59.480 the king would summon the rabbis and they would summon the scholars originally judeo-christian

00:45:04.780 meant a jew that became a christian right and these so-called judeo-christians would alert

00:45:10.520 the christians at the time like today they saw the jews as like the older brother right like oh 0.52

00:45:17.060 well they're brothers in the faith uh they didn't understand but then a jew would convert the jew

00:45:22.280 would convert and he'd be like actually this is what we've been saying about you this whole time

00:45:27.220 and the christians were like what yeah and then they would burn the talmud across paris spain 0.57

00:45:32.900 italy and what was interesting is a few years back when the notre dame cathedral caught fire

00:45:39.320 there were some prominent rabbis that said this is revenge or the burning of the talmud in paris

00:45:45.140 wow 700 years ago yeah they don't forget no and what's funny about that is of course everyone 0.95

00:45:52.160 blamed it on the muslims and maybe it was the muslims because they they vandalized churches but 0.92

00:45:57.220 they frequently missed it it's the jews that seemed to like it sort of like on 9 11 when 0.94

00:46:02.320 they caught an israeli woman smiling and saying well now the americans will understand what it's

00:46:07.500 like to be Israeli. Um, but, but anyway, going back to, you know, why now I think it really is

00:46:14.560 the, it is the deferring of these religious disagreements. It's this moral cowardice not

00:46:22.060 to proclaim that we have the truth because we have Christ. And to me, it wasn't just the kind

00:46:28.280 of apparent contradiction, which is they believe Christ is a, an, uh, imposter, a sorcerer, a 0.91

00:46:35.280 bastard and we believe he's god it's that we believe he is the truth and no one knows god 0.73

00:46:41.720 no one knows the truth without him that's right without him shining a light on it and so like you 0.86

00:46:47.820 said if a people does not have that at all but for thousands of years the fruits are not going

00:46:54.620 to be good and well if you look around today like you said from marxism to the atom bomb to

00:47:02.560 pornography. Transgenderism. Transgenderism. They seem to be at the fore of all these things 0.99

00:47:08.080 because they lack that. So I believe that liberalism is probably at the source of all of

00:47:14.860 it. And the downfall of any kind of Christian authority. And if you look throughout the 0.97

00:47:21.080 Enlightenment. That's insightful. We can talk more about that. But go ahead. Certainly. It was the

00:47:26.980 Jews that were, we talked about this, I believe, on another show. It was Baruch Spinoza in the 16th

00:47:34.160 century who was in Amsterdam. And Amsterdam became a refuge for the Jews because it was the most

00:47:39.840 liberal polity in Europe. You know, they were expelled from Catholic Spain. They were expelled

00:47:44.620 from Catholic England. They were expelled from Catholic Italy. And they sought refuge in Amsterdam,

00:47:51.500 the Dutch Republic, which was the most free speech, liberal place you could be. And that is

00:47:56.580 where bruce spinoza came up with biblical criticism and began what some call the radical

00:48:01.500 enlightenment and he said that the bible and the christian religion is just a moral skin suit on

00:48:08.880 the raw power of the kings of the absolute monarchs of europe and spinoza's family undermined the

00:48:16.540 spanish king the french king it was always a critique of christian power always a critique

00:48:22.280 of the christian monarchs and what's interesting is that even today you look at some of the prominent

00:48:28.120 jews in the right wing like uh let's say joe lonsdale talked about this in another show too

00:48:33.800 who does he idolize cyrus who is the messiah for the jews curtis yarvin who does he idolize

00:48:41.480 oliver cromwell who led the protestant republic in england who let the jews return to england

00:48:49.320 against the monarchy against the christian monarchy of england he wanted a liberal republic

00:48:54.680 so what what you tend to find and i haven't done enough of the the deep dive but for 500 years you

00:49:02.700 tend to find that attacks on the authority of the monarch which comes from god like the divine right

00:49:10.160 of kings liberalism and the jewish community these things always tend to go together they

00:49:16.600 always tend to converge whether it's amsterdam paris london saint petersburg in 1917 is always

00:49:24.180 the same and so i would say that modernity the enlightenment and the ascendancy of the jews

00:49:30.040 these things are all happening reciprocally that's insightful um yeah like i said earlier

00:49:36.580 i think liberalism is one of the greatest enemies that we have right now in terms of

00:49:40.300 an ideology. And the engine of liberalism seems to be egalitarianism, the complete flattening of

00:49:48.720 every natural distinction that God made into the world. Distinctions between men and women,

00:49:54.520 distinctions between individuals, and distinctions between peoples, race, and nationality. Just

00:50:01.500 every distinction you could think of. It's a rejection of the natural order, not just a

00:50:06.680 rejection of Christian religion, but the natural order. And, um, and so liberalism seems to, to be,

00:50:13.160 to be that, uh, this, this radical equality at every level, no one is special. Uh, no one is

00:50:21.620 above anyone else. It's a complete, complete rejection of distinction. And without distinction,

00:50:27.040 um, you necessarily are able to flatten all hierarchies because that's all like hierarchies

00:50:33.040 are the inevitable outflow of distinctions, you know, but if everybody's the same, then it's not

00:50:39.320 just, um, it's not just androgyny, but it becomes egalitarian, um, equality. And so, um, I feel like

00:50:47.940 in some sense, I wonder if that's one of the reasons why Jews have had a particular affinity

00:50:54.580 with America, um, because America, both on the religious and political side of, of the aisle

00:51:01.720 has been very egalitarian, right?

00:51:05.180 Whether it's our, you know, whether it's politically,

00:51:07.900 it's like, there is no king here.

00:51:10.880 You know, it's, we're a republic at best.

00:51:13.340 And I like republics.

00:51:14.840 I wish we had one, you know,

00:51:16.100 but really it's devolved rather quickly

00:51:20.400 into a raw democracy, you know, just mob rule.

00:51:23.260 And then on the religious side, that's politically,

00:51:25.700 but on the religious side, distinctly Protestant.

00:51:30.080 Protestants don't do kings.

00:51:31.720 you know and most protestant you know ecclesiastical polity is congregational

00:51:37.520 which is just the uh the church polity equivalent of democracy right and um especially baptists and

00:51:45.260 i am a baptist um but uh but i have always found that peculiar like why like okay so we believe

00:51:53.240 like it's not like on sunday we just sit in a circle and everybody gets two minutes to share

00:51:58.280 like we believe in a pastor we believe that somebody would be more qualified and authoritative

00:52:03.940 to to share the word of god to preach and to administer the sacraments but when it comes to

00:52:10.020 voting on decisions of the church every single member of the church including children in baptist

00:52:15.540 polity i get an equal vote so you could have like a nine-year-old voting against their dad

00:52:20.140 it's like what you know which is kind of crazy and uh catholics would never do that no i mean

00:52:27.440 what are you talking about? You know, like in Catholics, you always know who's in charge 1.00

00:52:31.460 because of the size of their hat, you know, the bigger the hat, you know, like that guy's, 1.00

00:52:35.660 his hat's small. And well, we could go with that analogy a little bit more. The smallest hat

00:52:40.720 gets kicked out of the country, 109 countries. Um, but, but I, I wonder if, I wonder if, um,

00:52:49.520 now obviously I'm a convicted Protestant, so I'd like to think that Protestants could figure this

00:52:54.140 out. But I do wonder if, if you can correlate, um, the rejection of monarchs and, and rejection

00:53:01.260 of an Episcopal, not Episcopalian, but it's, it's called Episcopal polity. Episcopalians have it.

00:53:07.040 Anglicans on the Protestant side have it, you know, and, um, and Catholics have it, but it's the idea

00:53:11.800 of, of, um, a hierarchical authority, right? Like you, you have, you know, Pope and Cardinals and

00:53:19.140 bishops and you know and so on and so forth and and there are protestant versions of that

00:53:23.580 like it's not a coincidence that when england went protestant it didn't go baptist it didn't

00:53:29.300 go presbyterian it went anglican because anglicans still understand hierarchy and they have that

00:53:34.560 built into their their politic um there actually is um a ladder of authority and but i wonder with

00:53:41.660 with you know that further rejection of hierarchy and distinction um and that happening simultaneously

00:53:48.900 I guess my point is it was happening at the same time, politically and religiously, both the church

00:53:55.140 and the state kind of relinquishing any acknowledgement of, yeah, some, some people

00:54:02.500 are fit to rule, others are not. And some people are divinely appointed to rule, others are not.

00:54:09.280 And, and as those things dissipate, um, all of a sudden, like, like it seems as though the West 0.99

00:54:16.560 falls under this jewish power yeah well and you know the catholic church is not even immune from 0.98

00:54:22.840 that either at the same time now did you guys you guys have your jewish problems we do and uh you 0.99

00:54:29.000 know vatican too is a perfect example where for thousands of years the catholic doctrine on jews

00:54:34.860 was extremely consistent then you have this nostra tate which was introduced by a jew who came to the 0.57

00:54:41.440 council and said, Oh, I have this idea. And, uh, and there's a lot of debate. They had to kind of

00:54:47.160 recapitulate it several times every decade. They revisited in the seventies, the eighties and

00:54:52.140 nineties. Um, they don't know what to do with it because it's not, it's not true. It creates

00:54:57.220 these ambiguities about can Jews get to heaven without accepting Christ. And I believe the 1.00

00:55:03.780 answer is no, but the document creates some ambiguity about that. That's terrible. And, um,

00:55:08.900 You know, so, and there's a lot of Catholics that say there's this Masonic Jewish convergence inside the church in the 50s and 60s, which creates a situation. 0.96

00:55:19.620 And so no one is immune from that influence. 0.97

00:55:23.620 You guys have it in that way. Protestants have it through dispensationalism. 0.98

00:55:27.520 Right, right. 0.85

00:55:28.200 You know, and, and there are plenty of dispensationalists who would still say, no, Jews have to convert to be saved.

00:55:34.000 But some of the more extreme versions of dispensationalism have pretty much adopted, you know, two tracks of salvation.

00:55:41.080 Like for Gentiles, you're saved through Jesus.

00:55:43.420 For Jews, you're saved by being a good Jew.

00:55:45.900 Right. 0.64

00:55:46.640 Which is like, what?

00:55:47.940 Yeah. 1.00

00:55:48.560 Like that's not even Christian. 0.95

00:55:50.460 All right. 0.56

00:55:52.880 Last thing, maybe it's not just Israel.

00:55:56.100 you know it's like and i think that's something that you understand well that a lot of people

00:56:01.880 don't like you like because there's you know there's jewish guys who are um actually really

00:56:09.460 great at at calling out israel and israeli government and you know netanyahu and the war

00:56:17.040 on gaza and ethnic cleansing and um a lot of those things like uh you know guys who are jewish

00:56:24.280 who've done a good job.

00:56:26.660 But at the same time,

00:56:28.580 if what we're saying is true,

00:56:30.840 and maybe we're just wrong,

00:56:31.960 but if what we're saying is true,

00:56:33.680 even remotely true,

00:56:35.380 then you're talking about a people

00:56:37.040 that have been shaped by thousands of years.

00:56:40.180 And they've been shaped politically,

00:56:43.440 culturally, geographically,

00:56:46.240 by being nomadic and wanderers

00:56:49.360 and severed from the land,

00:56:52.380 severed from anything natural, you know, the natural distinctions, the natural order, but even

00:56:57.360 nature itself. They're not, this is my family's property and has been for, you know, 10 generations

00:57:04.660 and we work the land and we're shepherds. Like it's not really this, no Jew has that story,

00:57:10.220 you know? And so geographically and culturally and politically and religiously, the rejection

00:57:17.420 of Christ, rejection of the logic, the Logos, if that really has shaped a people, then the fact

00:57:25.840 that some of them have moved over here and don't practice Judaism and even can point out problems

00:57:31.860 with the Israeli government doesn't mean that they don't still have that psyche. You know what

00:57:38.300 I mean? And I feel like that's a hard concept for people. They're like, okay, now you guys are just

00:57:43.960 being racist you know like can you speak to that at all yeah absolutely yeah i you know the big

00:57:49.360 question surrounding jews in israel is like what what exactly is going on uh because people have

00:57:55.480 a vague conception that something's happening with the jews in israel uh but they don't they

00:58:00.620 can't quite put their finger on it is it israel is it the jews is it all jews some the powerful

00:58:05.800 jews the left-wing jews no one quite knows and i would say this has a lot to do with our priors

00:58:12.960 as liberals because we live in a liberal world and we're all liberals now in america we're all

00:58:19.200 liberals and one of the fundamental tenets of liberalism is the blank slate a tabula rasa which

00:58:25.460 is we're all born and we're just people we're all born as individuals and it's only by the world do

00:58:34.000 we get colored by ideas and uh our tastes preferences things like that and so the idea

00:58:41.820 that a people or a person is inherently anything predisposition predisposed whatever

00:58:48.620 everyone has a tough time with this because it contradicts this blank slate ideology we like

00:58:55.060 the blank slate because we think it's fair we think it's fair that anyone can be anything

00:59:01.080 any and if anyone is the wrong thing it's because they chose to believe that because they're wrong

00:59:08.180 or they chose to believe that because they're wicked.

00:59:10.660 And that is their individual choice.

00:59:12.840 But nobody looks at a person as a product

00:59:14.800 of their genetics, their heritage,

00:59:17.740 their parents, their religion,

00:59:19.740 the ideas of their people.

00:59:22.020 And people, for whatever reason,

00:59:23.900 they don't like the idea of a predestination

00:59:26.600 or some level of predestination.

00:59:30.080 For some reason, it makes us uncomfortable.

00:59:32.720 And I started to get into this on Canada's own.

00:59:34.480 I like predestination.

00:59:35.240 As a Calvinist, yeah.

00:59:36.440 I'm sure you do, yeah.

00:59:38.180 But but others do not.

00:59:39.820 Yeah, liberals do not.

00:59:41.080 And I started to get into this on Candace Owens show.

00:59:44.160 It's like this idea is sort of being expressed everywhere.

00:59:48.900 It's like a deep frustration with the fundamental inequalities and qualitative differences like lookism is an unexpected one, because lookism says that your looks matter so much and you can't control them.

01:00:05.960 and think about kind of the blank slate equivalent is uh well if you're confident and if you go to

01:00:13.360 the gym you too can get a hot girlfriend and for some people it's like you will never get a hot 0.92

01:00:20.560 girlfriend little meme is so good where it's like the uh the ugly fat guy who's balding who leans in 0.62

01:00:25.520 and it's this woman working and he says like hey you look cute today and she's like calling like

01:00:30.440 hr and then the good looking guy leans into her office and says the same thing and but that's so

01:00:35.600 true you know just to prove the point that like it's not just your your behaviors or or the words

01:00:42.120 that you choose to say it's like hey this uh adonis looking fellow just complimented a woman

01:00:47.320 and she took it as a compliment this right not so adonis looking guy he's like and it's sexual

01:00:52.780 harassment you know and it's strictly the only difference between them is looks of course we

01:00:57.840 know that that's true and but what the what the incels will say is that uh you know they'll they'll

01:01:06.240 say well you got to improve yourself you know you got to go to the gym eat right get a good haircut

01:01:12.680 get cool clothes but what incels will do is show a picture of like a guy who's like six five with

01:01:19.580 broad shoulders and a great face who doesn't work out right and then they'll show a guy who's five

01:01:24.820 six balding no chin yeah and but he's jacked and they'll say well he skipped genetics day

01:01:31.560 you know he didn't go to you know and it but it speaks to the fact that there are some things that

01:01:38.300 are unchangeable and immutable and as americans who are turbo liberals we hate that we do because

01:01:45.880 we like the idea that i could be what i want to be anything you want i'm a product of choice

01:01:50.220 and of my own actions and i control my destiny and and the same applies to um feminism and sexism

01:01:58.720 the same applies to race and racism yeah the same applies to i think when it comes to the jews

01:02:03.820 because really when you think about it jew and gentile is a whole other category besides ethnicity 0.54

01:02:09.860 and race right because jews they distinguish themselves from every other group as a

01:02:16.120 classification right they don't say like well there's jews and then there's persians and then

01:02:20.220 there's egyptians they say no there's the jews and then there's the nations right and we're 0.98

01:02:24.400 against them and we in a spiritual sense are higher we're chosen they are beasts that look 0.84

01:02:31.380 like people right and so when you have someone like a norm finkelstein for example like he 0.84

01:02:38.540 criticizes the genocide in gaza and israel but somebody gets up and says there's a zionist

01:02:43.420 occupation regime and he walks away right and says that's anti-jewish that's anti-semitic 0.70

01:02:48.380 and it's like on some level you they're always going to be jewish right and it doesn't mean

01:02:54.280 that you hate them right and it doesn't mean you can't be friends with them or admire them like i

01:02:59.060 and i get crap for saying this but i have many jewish friends most of them are catholic converts

01:03:04.220 and they're still play fast and loose with the truth they still have some very jewish

01:03:08.780 characteristics, but they're funny. They're bright. They're innovative. Like I like them a

01:03:14.920 lot. They're good people, but there are certain gaps that you can never fully bridge. And as a

01:03:20.580 whole, on the whole, the Jewish community, like you said, they can't turn their back on 3000 years 0.97

01:03:27.920 of tradition, culture, theology, history, and their story, which is we're under siege by the

01:03:35.440 nations persecuted for all time for who we are it's us against the world they never fully get

01:03:41.600 past that right nor can they and and that's okay but we need to kind of understand be aware of that 0.99

01:03:47.540 you just as well as they do yeah you exactly they know it it's all the dopey dumb christians that 0.98

01:03:53.100 don't know it they're like uh-uh they're our friends you know it's like they i mean they're 0.99

01:03:59.000 literally laughing about you when they get together and like they're they're mocking you

01:04:03.960 um just as you were talking about like a lookism and just the things that are just innate right

01:04:10.580 it's it's it's a blood memory you know like those kinds of things either like um i just kept thinking

01:04:16.160 about uh talking you know um one of my favorite catholics uh but it it's it's cool like the older

01:04:24.440 writing and lewis does this too as a protestant but uh older writing they were kind of like the

01:04:30.020 last of their kind you know it was very common before them you need to read like odyssey or

01:04:34.320 beowulf or um but the it's it's the the hero is not actually uh the peasant or the pauper or the

01:04:41.920 common man it really met his pedigree really matters he's not a commoner and and even like

01:04:48.760 if it's you know like ranger you know who's who's actually aragorn um you know like there's there's

01:04:54.660 moments where it's like i do not know what nobility may be in my blood you know but i will you know

01:05:01.720 you have my sword you know i'll do my best um but but notice it's it's not like here's a guy who's

01:05:07.640 just yeah you know he's a common man he doesn't have the pedigree but he makes it up in spades

01:05:13.040 with courage no he has courage because he is he's been groomed for generations from a courageous

01:05:21.060 line and and there's been corruption in the line too azildur you know like he i mean he has great

01:05:26.240 great great grandfathers who kind of ruin the world by making the wrong choice and he's you

01:05:31.320 know in in very much it's in his story arc to to redeem the mistakes of his fathers but there's

01:05:37.160 still his fathers and and there's nobility and there's greatness it's not a random greatness

01:05:43.440 and and there's so many stories like that older stories where um somebody becomes the hero and

01:05:50.860 then later in the story you find out oh that's why they're the hero they were actually um the uh the

01:05:57.140 great descendant of so and so you know or like even like bilbo you know it's like like even when

01:06:03.380 Tolkien's doing kind of the unexpected hero where it's like from all the

01:06:07.900 people's a hobbit, you know, not an elf and not like a hobbit.

01:06:11.500 But even then it's like, what kind of hobbit? Oh, well,

01:06:14.160 he was a took on one side and his great uncle was the tallest hobbit there

01:06:20.120 ever was and had a sense of adventure and was so big.

01:06:22.620 He could ride a real horse. It's like, he's got pedigree.

01:06:25.440 There's something in the blood. It's a blood memory, you know,

01:06:28.980 like there's something there. And, uh, we hate that as, as Americans, we hate that as,

01:06:35.440 as modernist we, we, um, but, but I think that's the world that God made. Yeah. And,

01:06:42.800 and here's the cool thing is it doesn't mean it can't change now. It's not going to change in 15

01:06:47.700 minutes, but, um, every, every great line of people had a first, right? Some, somebody was

01:06:56.500 the first great great great grandfather who did something that that others didn't who who took the

01:07:02.320 path less less trodden you know and it made all the difference and so i look at that and i think

01:07:08.420 like okay um i mean you know you're jewish 3 000 years is a long time you know but uh but like but

01:07:16.380 you got to start somewhere right you know it's like okay so first thing i'm going to do well 0.77

01:07:20.820 first thing i'm going to do is uh i'm going to say christ is king and i'm going to submit to the

01:07:26.080 logos that my father's rejected. Um, and, uh, and next thing I'm going to do is, um, I'm going to

01:07:33.960 work hard. I'm going to try to build wealth, all those things, but I'm going to, I'm going to

01:07:37.480 intentionally, uh, do some things with my hands and, and not just, you know, banking, you know,

01:07:44.260 from a computer. I'm going to, I'm going to actually, and maybe, maybe it's, you know,

01:07:48.580 in our modern economy and, you know, like maybe it's not practical and, you know, so you still

01:07:53.080 have a job and you're working online. It's like, but gosh, darn it. I'm going to plant a garden 0.98

01:07:56.580 in the backyard and I'm going to have soil on my hands, you know, because for 3000 years,

01:08:02.940 my people did it, you know, like, like I'm going to have some dirt under my fingernails and I'm 0.99

01:08:08.200 going to teach my kids that, and they're like, and so whatever it is like for white people, 0.95

01:08:13.800 I'm like, um, I look back, you know, not, not all the way back King Alfred and Duke Godfrey,

01:08:18.740 you know, Richard, the lion heart. I mean, we, we've got some, some great guys, but, but, you

01:08:23.200 know, for the last couple hundred years, I'm like, gosh, man, we kind of suck. And, and so I'm like, 0.96

01:08:28.580 okay, so I think some of my recent fathers have been cowardly. I'm going to be really courageous.

01:08:33.820 I'm going to teach my son to be really, really courageous. If you're black, it's like, 0.98

01:08:38.260 yeah, my, my people have kind of been stealing bicycles a lot, you know, for a couple of 1.00

01:08:43.980 generations. And, uh, when people say something mean, instead of saying something mean back,

01:08:49.020 uh, like physically assaulting someone, you know, and going to jail. Okay. What am I going to,

01:08:54.380 I'm not going to go to jail. I'm not going to be a criminal. I'm going to be upstanding,

01:08:57.840 a citizen and, you know, and I'm going to teach my, my children to do likewise. And

01:09:02.520 I do think that things can change, but, but they not, not in 15 minutes. We're talking about,

01:09:09.160 we're talking about legacy like heritage um only happens because down the line further up the

01:09:16.880 stream someone uh determined to start a legacy and the legacy was built over a thousand years or

01:09:23.880 or a couple centuries whatever it is but generational legacy and um and so it's a

01:09:29.420 it's a hard truth because people want to think i can change it all with me right and so i guess

01:09:35.360 what I'm trying to say is I'm not a fatalist. I actually do believe you can change, but I think

01:09:39.820 what each generation can do is you can change the direction. You can't get all the way downstream

01:09:44.660 with, with one life, with one person, with one generation, but you can say, look, I'm a part of

01:09:49.780 a stream that for 3000 years has been going off a cliff and I'm going to change it. I'm going to

01:09:54.300 move it an inch and teach my son to move it too and teach. And who knows what the Lord could do

01:10:00.860 over time like so i say that because um it could be my liberalism speaking but i i think i'd like

01:10:08.820 to believe it's my christianity speaking yes hope we believe in hope and what is hope if not

01:10:15.040 uh the belief that things can change right you know and i think that's why we hate intolerance

01:10:20.960 you know i don't i don't consider we're christian we have these uh somewhat militant views in some

01:10:26.700 ways but but i hate intolerance i really do and and i think you hit the nail on the head we hate

01:10:32.800 it because there's no hope there's actually no charity christian no yeah and i i love the idea

01:10:38.040 that you know for jews they always have the avenue of becoming christian yeah and and rejecting 0.57

01:10:46.060 because judaism as a religion it's particularist it's exclusive it's uh it's ethnic it says that 0.93

01:10:53.100 it's us we are in sold you are not um and so there is i think always that opportunity for them to get

01:10:59.680 on the right side of history and you leave that open and if not you know i'm also a believer in

01:11:05.320 as a catholic you treat them with dignity and respect and they have rights of course um but

01:11:11.340 we want them to join in the communion we want them to to take their birthright which is the messiah

01:11:16.520 And until that happens, you don't have to exploit, you don't have to mistreat, but it's not racist to simply notice and say, I am going to be a little cautious.

01:11:29.860 Yeah.

01:11:31.040 Right?

01:11:31.320 Like that is permissible.

01:11:33.300 And I think there's a way of doing that without being mean-spirited.

01:11:36.740 So it's, it's actually just a rejection of the real world that God made that actually has distinct peoples and, and heritage matters. And we're not all just blank slates, but we're the, we're the, we're the sons of former sires, you know, and, and none of us, it's actually arrogant to think that it could be anything other than that.

01:12:02.580 to think that i could come from you know a lineage and uh but that i could somehow just

01:12:09.800 rise above all of it and and do whatever i want you know that's why like as you know as a calvinist

01:12:15.760 i um it fits well with my soteriology because nobody really we all we like free will free

01:12:23.140 i believe in human agency without human agency there's no moral culpability without moral

01:12:28.660 culpability God would actually be unjust in his judgment so I like to start on the other end God

01:12:34.300 is just I know that so therefore people must be morally culpable and if we're morally culpable

01:12:39.680 there must be some agency but free will and just like a total sense like a libertarian free will

01:12:46.340 I'm not free to will myself to be nine feet tall I cannot I'm not free to fly you know I like

01:12:54.400 the the will is bound by nature like your choices um are the spectrum of choices made available to

01:13:03.080 each person are only that which is within their the uh their nature right and it's the same for

01:13:09.380 animals animals have less choice because of of their nature is as less versatile and less complex

01:13:16.800 and less elevated and so it's you know so we call it instinct it's still choice um but it's

01:13:23.180 but it's, it's so base and so narrow, you know, the choice is like, do I bark at the squirrel or

01:13:28.640 the bird, you know? And like, and it's so narrow that we just call it instinct, but there's still

01:13:32.840 choice. And I think of like, I wonder what God, you know, God, like the way we would look at the

01:13:37.620 dog and God looking at us, it's like, I'm, I'm limitless and I can do anything. And he's like,

01:13:43.960 I know what you have in the pantry. It's going to be honey nut Cheerios or Captain Crunch,

01:13:48.120 Like I'm free to eat whatever I want this morning. No, you're actually not. Like by providence and by nature, those two very powerful things, the nature that God gave us and the world that he arranges around us, actually at any given moment, we really only have a limited choices available.

01:14:07.900 like we're we're not just this universally free people that we think we are and uh and then when

01:14:14.580 you compound that with uh being the product of you know the the sons of former sires and the

01:14:20.620 choices they had and how that compounded and works with nature and provenance and it's like yeah i'm

01:14:25.980 just kind of i'm in this stream for such a time as this and it may be over the course of my 80 years

01:14:34.680 of life I might only actually have a handful of moments where a choice is actually within my

01:14:41.960 wheelhouse actually made available to me that would also be significant that could change

01:14:47.360 the trajectory you know and looking for like because there's so many things everyday life

01:14:54.380 where it's like yeah of course I would have done that of course it ended up this way it's actually

01:14:58.640 like it's it's weird but like so much of life is actually unsurprising so of course i did this

01:15:05.280 right of course i did like there was that and that at the time of course knowing me and and what i

01:15:11.800 like of course i made this choice and of course i couldn't see it then but i see it now of course

01:15:16.120 this choice would lead to this next choice and that choice and and that's why i'm here you know

01:15:20.360 and it's really like it's actually in god's big story you know it's all these little threads in

01:15:25.420 this time, but it's, it's really somewhat rare that there's a few characters in the story and

01:15:30.740 a few moments even for each of those characters where it's like, like there really is a significant

01:15:37.760 choice that can alter, you know, the, the destiny of millions. And it's, and it's cool to think

01:15:45.600 that like, on one hand, it's like, it's humbling to think that that's, that's who I am. I'm,

01:15:52.080 I'm a peon I'm just part of the plan and then but then on the other hand if you can get over

01:15:57.320 your arrogance there's a comfort like there's like a there's there's something assuring and

01:16:02.200 knowing that like I can't I couldn't screw this whole thing up the world even if I tried like

01:16:09.400 he's got the whole world in his hands right it's true so anyways yeah any final thoughts yeah I

01:16:15.720 mean um I just what I always go back to uh because I think it makes it accessible kind of what we're

01:16:21.840 describing is i like to call myself like old school when it comes to race and these types

01:16:28.480 of things because we all really know what that means we think of like our grandparents

01:16:32.000 they didn't hate other races they weren't filled with hatred and contempt but they had this general

01:16:39.080 sense of like they've dealt with certain peoples and they kind of know what they're about so be

01:16:45.420 careful around these types you know these types are always doing this or be careful even when it

01:16:50.180 came to like marriage and women there was like this old world old school sensibility of like oh 1.00

01:16:57.140 well women are this way men are this way that's what it's always going to be blacks are this way 0.71

01:17:00.880 whites are this way that's the way it's going to be and and i like that because i feel like there's 0.96

01:17:06.480 something innocent about it in a sense and it's sort of more of a colorful colorful world now we

01:17:12.420 have to pretend like we don't know these things that we all know because well what if you know

01:17:17.720 they're not all like that there's one out there who might be like cool or something and um that's

01:17:24.100 just how i treat it and it's funny because i talk about these types of issues on my show all the

01:17:29.280 time and my clips lately are going viral on instagram and everything and what everybody 0.86

01:17:35.560 always says in the comments is this guy is likable they say even though even though i'm saying the n

01:17:42.440 word in some of them it's black people saying i don't care i like this guy the way he's saying it

01:17:47.260 Because they know it doesn't come from a place of hatred.

01:17:49.940 Right.

01:17:50.440 And so I'm a big believer in being honest

01:17:55.040 and just letting your true intentions shine through.

01:17:57.580 And I think people can understand that, you know,

01:17:59.460 we want what's best for everybody.

01:18:00.980 So we can reject liberalism without it turning into like a weird,

01:18:04.880 hateful, cruel. 0.82

01:18:05.840 Yeah, you don't have to be a monster. 0.99

01:18:07.080 Right.

01:18:07.600 So those are my final thoughts. 1.00

01:18:09.400 You don't have to be a monster and you also don't have to be retarded. 1.00

01:18:12.460 Liberals are retarded. 1.00

01:18:13.540 Yes, well said. 1.00

01:18:14.280 All right.

01:18:14.580 Thanks for the show.

01:18:15.320 I appreciate it.

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The NXR Podcast - January 28, 2026

THE SPECIAL - The Particular Sins of Particular People (w⧸Nick Fuentes) - EP5

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