00:01:40Right. And then our second part was on kind of the generational divide, old versus young.
00:01:46And here, we are going to be talking about the age-old battle of the sexes, men versus women, and how, if we were to narrow it down right out of the gate, we could say young women are the problem.
00:02:01There are very, very troubling signs in the polling, and we can get into them, but it's one of those things that's basically bringing us to societal collapse, and not a lot of people are talking about it.0.61
00:02:10Wow. Okay. So if you have not watched part one and part two, again, this is the third part.
00:02:16This is Mark Mitchell. He is the honest poller or the honest pollster on X, right?
00:02:22Honest pollster on X on YouTube. It's honest poll and check out my website, the honest poll.com.
00:02:28Perfect. So this is what you do pretty much all day, every day, right?
00:02:32I try to understand what people are thinking and I'm doing it from let's represent the voter and
00:02:37not how can I get my party to win? So there are very few people like me out there.
00:02:41Yeah. I've learned this the hard way going and, hey, this guy's saying this and this guy's saying
00:02:47that. And then come to find out, they're all skewed. They're all biased. The polls. Somebody
00:02:54paid them. And not the people. Yeah. But some political party or particular candidate. But
00:03:01basically, you're the pollster of the people. Yeah. I would even take it further. I mean,
00:03:06pollsters do lie and they definitely have given the industry a bad name, but it's almost everybody
00:03:11in the entire political class. It lies to you for a living because they want their team to win.
00:03:16And if people just think back to the last week or two of the courageous voices that have come out
00:03:21and said, no, the reality is different than what you've been told. And then they've been
00:03:25attacked on the right. You had Mark Halperin come out and say, yeah, actually a bunch of
00:03:29campaign consultants tell me that Republican candidates are pulling their hair out. And he
00:03:34got attacked by Chris Lasavita brutally. He had Steve Deese come out and he said, hey, you know,
00:03:39I heard I went to this party meeting. They said the polling was terrible. And I thought really
00:03:44hard about whether I should tell you or not. Right. Like these are not good things. I mean,
00:03:49we have a couple of inside campaign leaks come out and they're all telling us that Republicans
00:03:53knew the entire time that they would be in this situation, weren't able to say things because of
00:03:59the friendly fire that they would take from Donald Trump. And they know their messaging is terrible
00:04:03and they know the polling looks bad and yet they'll all come and attack me for trying to say
00:04:08like i warned you a year and a half ago you would be here right right yeah that seems to be the
00:04:13major problem um right now it's like oh well it's you know it's the the far right podcasters it's
00:04:20their fault you know it's tucker carlson candace owens nick fuentes so on and so forth all the
00:04:25usual suspects like we're going to get trounced in the midterms and it's their fault for demoralizing
00:04:30right-wing voters and, you know, and mitigating the voter turnout. And it's terrible because
00:04:36this, we've never said this before, but we're saying it now for the first time ever. This is
00:04:40the last election of our lifetime, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And it's like, no, like
00:04:45we're getting, we're getting trounced. Not because of Tucker, not because of Nick, not because of
00:04:52so on and so forth. We're getting trounced because of Trump. Trump betrayed his promises. He upset
00:04:58people and there were plenty of warnings you to his face there were plenty of warnings along the
00:05:04way and trump uh to anyone who warned him he said f you out of my sight sent off uh and then
00:05:12everybody who told him the things he wanted to hear laura loomer mark levin whoever like all0.78
00:05:17of a sudden lindsey grant like what is maggot here's the thing like all these maggot guys are
00:05:21like um you know i'm true maggots like well really i mean if anyone gets to define maggot it's trump
00:05:28Right. It's his movement. And Trump has defined MAGA. He told us explicitly, Lindsey Graham is MAGA. And Mark Levin is MAGA. You know, so like, all right. So I'm true MAGA. All right. Great. Andrew Wilson, Andrew Wilson and Lindsey Graham. Right. Perfectly aligned. And I'm just, I'm not on that team. I don't want to be on that team. I don't want to have to sit down to my dad. I'm gay. You know, it'd just be really hard.
00:06:07But even the payment that we're experiencing now pales into comparison with how serious
00:06:12and how fast this could culminate, explode.
00:06:18Yeah, we are definitely primed for upheaval.
00:06:21And this environment we're in, especially with the podcasters and the Republican politicians who are trying to wrestle with their impending loss, the energy I'm feeling is that crack addict in your family who's finally faced with that rock bottom like family intervention.
00:06:34These are the exact kind of lies that they would tell the rest of their family, right?
00:06:44And then at this point, we've come to a place where the Republican Party needs a broad coalition to win the presidency.
00:06:51They will never win again unless they're able to form that broad coalition.
00:06:55That involves acknowledging all the political changes that we've been talking about in the last two episodes, which is that you have to have an economic progressive populist platform.
00:07:06You have to stop with the Washington, D.C. establishment free market capitalism orthodoxy.
00:07:12you actually have to meet the needs of the younger generation who have been shut out of the entire
00:07:16economic system like these are pretty obvious like this should not be rocket science like i should
00:07:22not be one of five or ten people out there saying this and getting attacked about it but by chris1.00
00:07:26lasavita's bots right uh and then finally there is like major problems with um the women like that1.00
00:07:34is a big problem this is one of the ones and you don't hear that a lot because the republican party1.00
00:07:38is the party of boomers and boomers love feminism um but it's it is the core driver of one of the
00:07:46big issues that we have which is increasing threat of political violence like this is where
00:07:51a lot of this is coming from the young women so so three episodes part one was basically um episode
00:07:57on the economic divide second one was generational divide boomers gen z and now we're going to talk
00:08:03about the battle of the sexes. But say what you just said again, like flesh that out a little bit
00:08:09that is this all women or is it mostly young women? So like we said before, there's no group
00:08:16that is completely homogenous. We're talking about signals of maybe 10, 20, 30 points between
00:08:22different demographics. But when you look at overall women to men, some people will show you
00:08:28maps and say, well, this is what politics would look like if only men voted. And it's an entirely0.87
00:08:33red map. And I think that that's a false dichotomy because quite frankly, first off, you have a lot
00:08:39of men that act like women. And second off, like the Republican party doesn't know what to do with
00:08:45the super majority. It would not govern for the American people for sure. And so that's, in my
00:08:49opinion, a false dichotomy. And I don't want to give overall all women a bad rep. Depending on
00:08:54the poll, they're only like six to 10 points off from men as far as like political leanings.1.00
00:08:58So Kamala Harris wasn't winning by like 30 points with women.1.00
00:09:03It was more like 10 points, depending on the poll.1.00
00:09:05And obviously, if it was just women, she would have won as well.1.00
00:09:09But the political pendulum does its work.1.00
00:09:12Like these women can shift back and forth between Republican and Democrat.1.00
00:09:16And certainly, certainly you have the crazy old woman who watches MSNBC.1.00
00:09:20And we've documented this, who MSNBC watchers, their number one and number two issues in0.98
00:09:26the 2024 election were threats to democracy and abortion rights over the border and prices and so
00:09:32those are that's brainwashing for men uh young men especially it's uh can i afford to have a
00:09:39family where's my role in society why does everybody hate me the system sucks and nobody
00:09:44fixes it right and can i get a job though and afford a home and and afford to have a family0.99
00:09:49whereas young women it's um will i be allowed to murder my kids they want that 100 they and0.99
00:09:56it's always framed my body, my choice. Right. And there is a lot of positive news here that0.97
00:10:01people don't talk about. Your body, my choice forever. Yeah. But if you actually poll on
00:10:07abortion, let's look at the trimesters and just split it up. It's actually very good news for1.00
00:10:12Republicans. The problem is Republicans don't understand the Overton window. Only about a
00:10:17quarter of America wants abortions after three months. That's very good news. And I forget the1.00
00:10:25number, I think it's about 60% would be okay if you cut it off a month or younger, right? So it's
00:10:30like, if you could convince the completely like no abortion people that, all right, we got it,
00:10:36we got it down to a month. Would you take that deal? You're getting like 60% of the country,
00:10:40right? So now young women, unfortunately, over index in the amount of people that think it would1.00
00:10:48be okay up to nine months. Is it all of them? No, but it's a bigger signal than the other people.0.99
00:10:53And we're seeing this repeated in many other questions.
00:10:57This is so much, though, that I've stopped asking about it recently.
00:11:00But we asked a question, is the murder of the UnitedHealthcare CEO, Luigi Mangione, murdered this guy, understandable because of the cost of high price of health care?
00:11:12And I think it was in the 30s overall, but it was closer to 40, 45 percent with the under 40 women.0.84
00:11:19So under 40 women are always leading this group of people who think violence is okay, who think words are violence, who want to crack down on the unvaccinated.0.51
00:11:30These are like the brown shirts of the left, essentially.
00:11:33And it's because they're, quite frankly, soft targets.
00:11:43And this has been proven by a lot of really great polling.
00:11:45And NBC had a poll out that asked under, I think it was under 30, under 30 Trump voters what they wanted out of life and under 30 Harris voters, what they wanted under, women Harris voters, what they wanted out of life.
00:12:00The under 40 male Trump voter, number one was like kids to get married.
00:12:06And these were like 40, 35, 40 percent like high numbers.0.65
00:12:10the women, it was like a career validation. For them, getting married and having women was like0.99
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00:14:2520% off. Wow. And so these are the people, like, realistically, who should be pair bonding,
00:14:32right, and forming families. And this is the ultimate driver of why we have a low birth rate.
00:14:38Are we below replacement yet? I think we're getting close, right? Yes, we are. For the first
00:14:43time, white Americans in the last just, I think this just came out like a year ago. But for the0.97
00:14:50first time, it's ticked up. Yeah. So white Americans are pretty much the only ones who
00:14:55have actually ticked up hispanics still going down blacks going down um so there's you know0.96
00:15:01some encouraging stuff there but overall even white white americans are absolutely below because0.73
00:15:07replacement is 2.1 and i'm pretty sure in the high ones you were in the high ones really like
00:15:11it so it's ticking back up i think it's like 1.7 maybe 1.8 so so people understand the impact of
00:15:18what that means is that essentially we have an inflationary system that is built on so much debt
00:15:24that it constantly needs to keep growing yeah our system is not hardened against any really
00:15:30meaningful deflation at all that was just inflated away right yeah that's the plan that's the plan
00:15:35which trust the plan financially repressive to anybody who doesn't have a massive stock portfolio
00:15:39or own business right so the plan is to make the economy even worse for people especially under 50
00:15:47young people who are supposed to be funding the boomer social security medicare at least it's a
00:15:51very perverse system. But specifically, where this is going with us being less than replacement rate
00:15:58means our population is shrinking. It's hard for the GDP line to continue to go up if our population
00:16:04is shrinking. It has to be done on productivity then. And I'm pretty sure that we're getting
00:16:08diminishing returns there. And so what we're going to see eventually is an inability to fight
00:16:14this deflation and we'll have deflationary stuff happen. Well, I think you're right. But real quick,
00:16:20with the population going down let me just play the devil's advocate advocate for a moment and
00:16:24i'm not even saying i like these things i'm genuinely asking for myself and the sake of
00:16:28the audience uh what about what about robots coming into the mix like so um below the replacement
00:16:36uh population going down but let's just say hypothetically humanoid robots for means of
00:16:43production able to do all these things blah blah blah or are we talking more so not not so much
00:16:47about the ability to produce as a nation and more so about the market of who buys. Less people means
00:16:53just less consumers. I think it's a mix of both. I mean, less consumers is obviously the problem.
00:16:59A lot of the CEOs want to see more migration in in order to increase the consumer base and keep
00:17:05wages repressed, which for them creates higher corporate profits. And obviously, we see countries
00:17:13all over the place who have declining birth rates opt into mass immigration to the point where it's0.98
00:17:19destroying canada they'll probably be a joke of a state in 30 or 40 years so you want to talk about0.95
00:17:24colonization we're probably going to have to colonize canada to keep them oh yeah i i think0.96
00:17:28about that all the time like um if we if we were serious uh i think we would do that to mexico0.99
00:17:34not because it's particularly valuable but because um it's just it's hurt our people our country0.98
00:17:41enough fentanyl and all they should be vassal states yeah exactly so like uh the mexican
00:17:46government has had plenty of time to get their act together and to punish the cartel um and
00:17:51americans are dying because of the things coming over the things and the people uh coming over our
00:17:57borders so i think we just say hey look we gave you uh your time we're not trying to be mean but
00:18:01um you're not in charge anymore we're in charge this is not a 51st state not not even close but0.51
00:18:06we're going to conquer you and we're going to declare war on Iran.
00:24:47The women were, I think, 30 points less.1.00
00:24:49This was the dialogue because a lot of these things, people just assume, and I got to be
00:24:54honest i've assumed this too people just assume because i think i might have been on the losing
00:24:58side of this internal argument with our nxr team we were debating this literally like just the other
00:25:04week and i was like there's no way that um like lord knows i'm frustrated with boomers i think
00:25:11they're one of the most selfish generation of all time like the meme we were talking about it before
00:25:15we started recording where it's like the boomer when uh when presented with uh a traitor and an0.99
00:25:20invader if they had a gun with only two bullets they would turn around and shoot their grandchild
00:25:23twice boomers um and that's so true like that like the truest statement like christ is lord0.97
00:25:28and boomers killing their own grandchildren like those are like almost equally true statements and0.78
00:25:33so like i mean they are cronus they really are like just the most selfish uh that the whole0.89
00:25:39world has always been then that like from from cradle to grave the whole world has reoriented
00:25:45to fit them um all all marketing on television all like everything has catered to them and um
00:25:53and it's just really sad and really disgusting but that's that so so i'm not saying i haven't0.96
00:25:59been wise to all the critiques and all you know all the failures of the boomers but i've always0.89
00:26:04kind of tipped the hat to the boomers in the sense of yeah but still on the moral issues
00:26:08they're more conservative and we again we were debating this internally and a couple of the
00:26:13guys on our team were saying no um you didn't see it in the public so it wasn't necessarily
00:26:19baked into all the movies yet or the tv shows or there wasn't only fans because it wasn't the0.60
00:26:25internet you know but they're like joel remember like the boomers this is the sexual revolution0.64
00:26:31generation this is um uh row and and uh woodstock right woodstock is like you look at the boomers
00:26:38and i look this up just to make sure um it's like the youngest boomers at the time of woodstock were
00:26:43five right and the oldest boomers were um i believe 23 so like five to 23 years old um but
00:26:50the majority of those in attendance and it was like thousands and like a couple hundred thousand
00:26:55people at woodstock um the majority age demographic at woodstock was 15 to 25 and boomers at this time
00:27:02are ages five to 23 yeah so the majority of people at woodstock were boomers and woodstock
00:27:09was literally known as like people were walking around naked yeah right so here's the deal like
00:27:14gen z are they are they saints no not necessarily i'm not making that argument um but but we forget
00:27:22we so quickly forget or don't forget we just never were informed we never knew um gen z is is as many
00:27:29morals as they may be missing or not particularly care about um gen z is is not necessarily having
00:27:36public orgies in the mud outside in front of thousands of people yeah well the rumors did
00:27:43that yeah that's crazy they understand the societal ramifications of bad behavior in a way
00:27:49that the boomers do not because the boomers haven't had to wrestle in my opinion with a
00:27:54failing society and remember they're also the generation that watched walter cronkite on tv
00:27:59right so they that's the facts their issue isn't that they're more conservative or they're more
00:28:04religious or whatever it's that they believe what they're told that number one boomer when you argue
00:28:08with a boomer you're arguing with fox um that's our msnbc yeah argue with the television uh that's
00:28:14absolutely true uh here's another thing because we again when we debate something internally it
00:28:20gets fierce uh like we're very competitive and so we're fact checking everything uh one of the
00:28:24other stats that we pulled up was um i believe right so i'm giving a roundabout here if i'm
00:28:29off by one or two you know forgive me but uh the lifetime sexual partners of a boomer was i believe
00:28:36it was like 11 or 12 uh now granted boomers have lived longer okay so take this with a grain of
00:28:41salt uh but for the boomers like 11 or 12 sexual partners over the course of their lifetime um and
00:28:46it just got less and less and less um whereas gen z i think was like three or four you know or five
00:28:51well it's probably the men with one dragging down the women with 50 100 like that 100 but the point
00:28:57they are the divorce generation as well exactly worse exactly and so my point is that like even
00:29:03though the boomers it's like well that's not fair joel you know the boomer is 80 years old and gen
00:29:07z is 20 years old or whatever and i'm aware i'm not stupid um but my point is i feel like i feel
00:29:14like boomers have tried to give off this air as though like uh we have standards and we have
00:29:20virtues and we have morals like you would yeah it i i feel like if you did a poll and and just
00:29:25had people guess without looking at the stats um how many sexual partners do you think the average
00:29:29i think most people would say oh women's have probably only had maybe you know one or two or
00:29:34three sexual partners like they've been sexually you know it's sexual fidelity and that's a big0.68
00:29:38virtue for them no it's not no no it's not they just didn't here's the difference they just just
00:29:43didn't talk about it you know what i mean it was it was maybe taboo but they did it well feminism
00:29:50was part of their mainstream progressive orthodoxy as dictated by the tv that's right1.00
00:29:56and all the ramifications of feminism abortion sexual revolution adultery the boomers like
00:30:03the boomers like almost have a monopoly on adultery i mean that's like that that's0.78
00:30:09can't even get married to like yeah they can't even they can't even meet the prerequisite for0.92
00:30:14you know fornication maybe but adultery you have to actually get married first and they can't afford1.00
00:30:17it. And so we'll find a single, you know, young chick who would be willing to do it.1.00
00:30:23So we didn't talk about it, but this is one of the number one drivers. We talked a little
00:30:26about populistic or populism as an economic measure and what metrics you would use. But
00:30:32when I talked to Trump, I was trying to represent how mad and upset and disaffected the under 40
00:30:38voter was after all of his bad messaging. Charlie Kirk had been that voice for him. Charlie Kirk
00:30:44died i was literally told that one of the reasons they brought me and other people in was to try to
00:30:49get somebody like charlie kirk to talk to him about these people who he does not think about
00:30:54real quick for the listener and for me like you you've mentioned that in our other episodes like
00:30:59when i was having this conversation with trump what was your role what would i'm an independent
00:31:05pollster i'm not affiliated with either party i'm a conservative i'm a conservative guy on the
00:31:09internet uh they follow me a lot of people listen to me i am the only one out there representing the
00:31:15voters and things were bad after charlie kirk was assassinated there we talked about the bubble that
00:31:21had formed around trump and it was resulting in horrible messaging remember he was fighting laura
00:31:26ingram over h1bs and the 50-year mortgage and all this other stuff oh i remember and i was getting
00:31:32dms by people who were burning all their trump hats and 55 gallon drums behind their house and
00:31:36I was putting them out on the internet. And they said, you know, come in, we're trying to get more
00:31:40people to talk to him to try and get more information and views in front of him. And I went
00:31:45in just literally to sit down with Trump 45 minutes. And my feeling was that this was a
00:31:51White House that was hermetically sealed off from the internet, essentially. And Trump is not on
00:31:56Twitter. He was the king of Twitter. He understood intellectual feedback loops and how to market to
00:32:00people. And that is gone. And long and short of my conversation was, you are going to lose in
00:32:08November, a year in advance. I told him you're going to lose. And it's because you aren't focused
00:32:12on what you got elected for, which is economic populism, especially focused on the youth
00:32:16and brutal visible government reform. Nobody believes you drain the swamp. And so he was
00:32:22warned whether I was the most important voice, like who cares? It's not just that he neglected
00:32:26those things started neglecting those things um he literally started mocking his his base whenever
00:32:32they would whenever they would ask him you're still talking about epstein you know like yeah
00:32:37dows 50 000 yeah exactly good brief like talk about being out of touch so but but back in the
00:32:43day you're right he was the king of twitter he was he was dialed in he was in touch um but he's
00:32:48still getting his data his intel so they brought you guys in yeah he's not a dumb guy and i said
00:32:53the most important stat in my opinion, which is that every year for the last 20 years, the median
00:33:00home buyer age has increased by one year. Right. So that means the average home buyer now is 59,
00:33:0520 years ago, it was 39. It's literally just the same people trading houses. It's literally just
00:33:10boomers. And so you, that is an absolute and utter failure of the housing market. The young people1.00
00:33:16are completely shut out. I don't know how anybody could listen to that stat and not make it like
00:33:20one of the things that their platform i mean it should have been out of day one right and you know
00:33:27what my the response i got back was well you know a lot of these people have worked hard to get the
00:33:31value in their homes and we don't want to like jeopardize that and it's like i remember that's
00:33:37crazy and i remember publicly him coming out and say house uh house price is going down i don't
00:33:41want him to go down right which is like you just picked the generational side you just picked it
00:33:46exactly. You picked boomers and you are one, you know, so go figure. Um, but so, so then0.72
00:33:52who, if, if Charlie was that voice in his ear and then Charlie's gone and he's not on Twitter
00:33:57anymore, um, and they brought in guys to kind of replace Charlie and you were one of them when that
00:34:04voice was gone, but then you guys got kicked out who I was never, I was there for once. I wasn't
00:34:09sure, but, but they tried something up enough. So, so who is in Trump's ear? Who? Well,
00:34:16Right now, it would probably be Pete Hegseth because we started a war for Israel, right?0.75
00:34:21So it's like they needed to course correct in October of last year, to be honest with you.
00:34:28And what I said was that if you want to win, you have to make it look like Republicans can govern and stop attacking them and acknowledge the shortcomings you have in the Senate and at least come up with alternative plan.
00:34:39but you need to show america the path to the golden age lay it out specifically what it is
00:34:45like the contract for america and say that if you can what it is and who it's for golden age for who
00:34:50yeah exactly all americans not just boomers right and specific policy points that some of them you
00:34:57can get and maybe others you can't but this is what republicans stand for long term and it wouldn't be
00:35:03hard it was basically the kind of stuff that charlie was telling trump like charlie knew this
00:35:07stuff, essentially, that if you want to mint new conservatives in America, you get them married,
00:35:11you get them a mortgage, you get them a job, right? And that's great that we're clamping down
00:35:17on the H-1B program somewhat, but where is the broad-based focus on getting more jobs? Like,
00:35:23where is this national project to teach American employers that they can't import their workers,
00:35:28they're expected to train them? Like, this should be us sending a shuttle to the moon,
00:35:32should be training the zoomers for new careers. And instead they're just completely drifting in1.00
00:35:40the wind, like completely, they're not, nobody cares. And maybe it's because they don't turn
00:35:43out in primaries and they don't turn out. Maybe it's because they aren't giving the Republican
00:35:47party a significant amount of donor bucks and their interests obviously compete with the donor
00:35:52interests that fund the Republican party. So again, that's why I wrote that op-ed. Yes,
00:35:57there could be a dark horse outsider. Yes, we could have a, a economic populist champion.
00:36:02We are not going to see political change on the right until there is a structure to enforce a very specific set of policy outcomes.
00:36:12And those would be like brutal reform of the federal government, specifically what that means, purges, like those kind of things, like brutal interior investigations over fraud, firing anybody, misusing their methods that were going to communicate that to people.
00:47:57Now, in my opinion, that creates a lot of opportunity.
00:48:01When people will say, well, like, for instance, look at all of our poor uneducated people in the inner city in the ghetto, right?
00:48:08And I say, well, imagine if there were economic opportunities for them.
00:48:12Don't you think our educational outcomes would be better?
00:48:15Do we really have to throw $40,000 a year per student into these black holes of Democrat mismanagement?
00:48:21Or it's like if that person could have a livable wage when they got out of high school with a decent education, maybe they would come to school, right?
00:48:29So we've taken that group of people and said, okay, you're not part of this.
00:48:32So what we're doing is we're cutting off all these limbs and boiling essentially America down to the group of people that run the donor box and get to control the legislation that's written.
00:48:42We need to re-inspire and re-engage all these people into, and this is, you could call it nationalism, right?
00:48:54And then, frankly, we should be okay with shaming certain behaviors.
00:48:58it exists for a reason right shame is a powerful tool and we're seeing that now with the cornell
00:49:03seven i mean these things matter the lindsey clancy thing um yep i mean the shame uh yeah
00:49:11shame is like and this is something christians older christians don't understand younger christians
00:49:16are starting to get but um people think that you know well christianity the whole point of the
00:49:20gospel is that Christianity provides a shame-free zone. That's not true. That's not what the Bible
00:49:29teaches. That's not historic Christianity. The whole point of the gospel is not that it provides0.98
00:49:34a shame-free zone. If anything, the Christian gospel, the law of God, and the free gospel of
00:49:40grace actually intensifies shame, but then provides the one place where you can run to
00:49:48to cover that shame. So Christianity, the message of Christianity is not that you have nothing to
00:49:53be ashamed about. No, the message of Christianity is not only did you do something bad, but you did0.87
00:49:58something bad against your creator who provided you with breath in your lungs and all these0.81
00:50:02resources and even more than that, not just a universal benevolent creator, but a particular
00:50:07personal savior who gave his life on the cross for you. How in the world could you raise your
00:50:13fist in defiance against cosmic treason, against the Lord, your Maker, and your personal Savior,
00:50:20who at the cost of his blood gave his life so that you might have reconciliation with God,
00:50:25you should be more ashamed of yourself, not less. And then, only after that is first set,
00:50:32we're skipping that stage, in other words. The first stage is more shame. That's the message
00:50:36of Christianity, more shame, because now you see that God is holy. And by virtue, by consequence0.94
00:50:41of seeing the holiness of God, your perception of your sin becomes even more acute, even more
00:50:48intensified. And so Christianity actually, I think, heightens. It multiplies shame. But then,0.95
00:50:56and only then, does it say, and there is a place to go in which all shame is covered,
00:51:02and it's the cross of Jesus Christ. So this idea of Christianity being, well, Christianity is
00:51:08judge not acceptance no shame uh infinite tolerance infinite inclusion like that is not
00:51:15the christian faith that is liberalism walking out uh walking around in a hollowed out skin suit
00:51:20that's not historic christianity so as a as a christian pastor um i i want to make shame great
00:51:26again not just america i want to make shame great again so that people would be ashamed in
00:51:31perpetuity forever without hope no that's not christian either but so that that shame would
00:51:36do its job, which is drive people, one, to the cross, salvation in Christ alone. But two,
00:51:43it's not just to salvation, it's also to sanctification. Shame becomes a powerful
00:51:49motivator that drives people to salvation, redemption from shame, and to sanctification
00:51:54to actually change their behaviors. Jesus says to all these adulterous women,0.99
00:52:00what does he say? You know what? Adultery is not actually a big deal, and you have nothing to be1.00
00:52:04ashamed of. No, says the Bible, never. Says Jesus, never. In fact, he says, no, I'm not going to stone
00:52:10you, right? We're your condemners. Who is left to condemn you? John chapter 8, no one, Lord. Neither
00:52:16do I condemn you. But then the final words that he leaves this woman with is, now go and sin no more.
00:52:23Go and go and slut no more. And to men, go and simp no more. So it's like, yes, you are forgiven.1.00
00:52:33him, stop being an idiot. This is, in my opinion, the biggest opportunity area for Christianity is1.00
00:52:40to lean into this young man that essentially has no part. And a lot of, like we saw a signal in0.82
00:52:46the polling of the people who were coming back to the church, mostly were coming back to for
00:52:51spiritual connection, but more of the young people than the older people were coming for
00:52:55social connection. So there is an aspect of people looking for more order in their bonding,
00:53:01like coming back to church trying to find but the young men the message is not tailored for them
00:53:06and it's basically in my opinion tailored for the 70 year old cat lady that watches msnbc who writes
00:53:12a big check and i have polling on this do you want to know what the strongest religion in the
00:53:18united states is what as measured by worldview strongest religion is measured by worldview
00:53:24can i hold up like are we talking about individual sects of christianity or just christian it's not
00:53:31Christianity. Yeah. Okay. Then I would say maybe Islam. Atheism. Atheism. So 8% in the last poll
00:53:39identified as atheist. But when you ask proxy statements about worldview, like for instance,
00:53:44do you support Kamala Harris or Donald Trump's position on abortion? Among atheists, it's plus
00:53:5080 Kamala Harris. So those people know exactly what their world is like, what they believe.
00:53:55They have no question whatsoever. So whether they go to a church or not, I would argue they do.
00:54:00They go to TikTok church, but they are, it is a religion.
00:54:04So you're saying the correlation between ID and worldview.
00:54:11So those who identify as atheists have a worldview that is consistent with how they identify.
00:54:18Whereas the people who identify as being Christian don't necessarily have a matching worldview.
00:54:22Or, on the flip side, people have a fairly Christian worldview but don't even call themselves Christians because the battle for the dictionary, those who have won the battle for who gets to define Christianity, are the people who have a worldview that's not Christian at all.
00:54:39So, within self-ID Christians, stripping everybody out, among self-ID evangelicals, they would side with Donald Trump over Kamala Harris on abortion by 30 points.
00:54:49so that's good but it's nowhere near the atheists not even close uh among the catholics it was 10
00:54:56points trump and among protestants you might as well not even be a christian it was split
00:55:01yeah because the mainline protestant you're talking about united methodists you're talking
00:55:05about pc usa you're talking about episcopalians they're all liberal so they go to this they've
00:55:10all been hijacked they go the same sunday morning they look at the same bible and yet evangelicals
00:55:17Protestants are 30 points apart on who they think represents their views on abortion. So
00:55:22clearly this is a message problem. Clearly it's a message problem. And, you know, I've gone to
00:55:29these churches, like we know what the problem is. It's acceptance, right? It's the lack of
00:55:33the shame and the judgmental. And it's like, there's no preaching on sin.
00:55:39Yeah. And I remember when there was, like I went to Hellfire and Brimstone sermons in the 80s in
00:55:43my Methodist church, but it's not there anymore. In fact, every, literally every Sunday, it's just
00:55:48like another iteration of the salvation message. And I talked to Methodist pastors who were like,
00:55:53well, that is just so important. It is important, but here's the problem. This is what I was trying
00:55:57to say a moment ago is if you skip shame, then you undercut the entire basis for salvation.
00:56:05So we're preaching salvation because it's important. Okay, great. Here's my question.
00:56:09salvation for what yeah salvation from what salvation from who salvation for why like the
00:56:17whole message of salvation it it pre-assumes it predicates that there's actually um a problem yeah
00:56:25that we need to be saved from and the problem is not society at large not social structure the
00:56:32problem is sin. And your ultimate enemy is, it's not the world. There's a sense in which the world
00:56:40is an enemy. Jesus said, the world hated me. They'll hate you if you follow me. But the ultimate
00:56:46enemy is, this will get me a little bit in trouble, but the ultimate enemy, the problem is sin. Your
00:56:54enemy is not the devil. It's not the world. It's not society. It's not systems. Your enemy actually
00:56:59is God. Because God is thrice holy, and he will not compromise his justice. And therefore, apart
00:57:07from salvation, forgiveness of sin, my biggest enemy is actually this holy God that I've committed
00:57:13treason against. That's why I need Jesus. I don't actually need Jesus to save me from the devil.
00:57:18I need Jesus to save me from the justice of God. My inability to live up to expectations.
00:57:23Exactly. But that's the beauty of the gospel is that God puts forward his own son to atone for, make payment for our sin, which stands as an affront to his holiness.
00:57:37But if you take sin out of it and you take God's holiness out of it, then salvation becomes empty.
00:57:45Yeah. Yeah. And the trend I've seen in most of the sermons is, well, we acknowledge sin, but it's amorphous and everybody's broken and we're all dealing with something.
00:57:58And that, dude, the switch, probably about 20 years ago, and I love that you said it because it's literally, this is the word that is used by all these churches.
00:58:08It stopped being sin. It started being called brokenness.
00:58:11but the problem is that like when you really get down to you press the minister on like what is
00:58:15brokenness and uh brokenness is sin but it's never your sin it's everybody else's sin against you
00:58:20so when brokenness is actually had a sermon that said well uh a pastor this i asked i'm like well
00:58:26why aren't we talking about sin on the pulpit he's like well why would i need to name it we all know
00:58:30what it is it's like yeah he has a kid who's gay yeah well there you go like like clockwork
00:58:37every single one of these guys uh if they're if they're soft and constantly appeasing women
00:58:43turns out that their daughter is you know at west point you know or if they're you know they're soft
00:58:49on traditional marriage turns out their son is gay or if they're soft like it's all um they're0.61
00:58:56all compromised there is probably a chemical crisis of testosterone in the country that would0.89
00:59:02say i mean we've been poisoned if anything maha had just come in i know and cleaned that up right0.71
00:59:08gotten rid of the microplastics or whatever it is that's even that is another point say0.52
00:59:14maga failed on everything they couldn't they couldn't even do the maha part like all the0.78
00:59:19complete corporate capture yeah every single promise the only one and i praise god for it0.96
00:59:26credit where credit is due, like the border is closed, but even that can, none of it is done
00:59:32in a permanent fashion. The moment that they lose, and right now there's a good chance they lose in
00:59:362028, that wall still hasn't been right where it was, you know, a third of it is built, no more of
00:59:44it is built. And when you wonder, oh, it's the corrupt judges and it's not Trump's, actually,
00:59:48from what I've read, it's not the corrupt judges when it comes to the wall. It's that Trump just
00:59:53can't quite figure out which of his billionaire buddies he's going to hire as the contractors to
00:59:58pay to build it. You know what I mean? It's like, what the heck is going on? Things are going to
01:00:03change fast. And like, again, I hate this. And personally, listen, as a pollster, I I'm out
01:00:09there. I'm telling people how I look at my numbers and represent them. I'm making judgment calls.
01:00:15Totally fine to disagree with me. I would love to hear what you think back, but I'm allowed to
01:00:19have personal biases. I can separate that from my work. Personally, I was a Trump supporter,
01:00:23one of the earliest people on the Trump train. I did not want to see him fail. In fact, I tried
01:00:28everything, I think more than most people, to try and prevent us from being in this situation.
01:00:33We are not prepared for how quickly I think public opinion is going to turn on Donald Trump.
01:00:36He is going to be, in my opinion, probably a political pariah.