The NXR Podcast - THEOLOGY APPLIED - Biblical Patriarchy Vs. Andrew Tate ｜ with the Crew from Crosspolitic

00:00:00.000 Principal pluralism is not viable. Globalism is not going to last. Even complementarianism

00:00:07.480 was always intended to be a halfway house, and today we quickly see that middle ground

00:00:13.120 falling away. In our episode of Theology Applied today, I'm privileged to welcome back to the show

00:00:18.620 my friends from CrossPolitik. We discuss R. R. Reno's book called Return of the Strong Gods,

00:00:25.740 religion, tradition, nationalism, family. These things inevitably are coming back.

00:00:32.980 The weak gods were never viable. They cannot last. So, the question is not whether, but which.

00:00:40.260 Will we have Christian nationalism or Islamic nationalism? Will we have biblical patriarchy

00:00:45.680 or will we have Andrew Tate? One thing's for sure, the weak presentation of the Christian faith 1.00

00:00:52.680 that evangelicals have peddled for decades cannot continue. The ground will not hold.

00:01:00.180 Tune in now. Applying God's word to every aspect of life. This is Theology Applied.

00:01:09.120 In this episode, I'm super privileged to welcome back to the show,

00:01:13.100 CrossPolitik. We've got Toby Sumter, Chalk Knox, and the water boy, Gabe Wrench. Guys,

00:01:17.940 thanks for coming on the show. Great to be with you. Yes, sir.

00:01:21.420 man good to be good to be with another guy from texas i mean i'm just you know we got a game it's

00:01:27.560 just so good i actually really appreciate you saying that game because i thought for a second

00:01:31.820 you're gonna be like it's just good to be with a fellow presbyterian that's what i thought it

00:01:35.880 was good well hey we didn't say joe is there something you want to say joe no no is there

00:01:41.220 something you want to come out the closet about is there something you want to sprinkle on this

00:01:44.920 conversation you let us know if there's something that you know you need to

00:01:48.620 if it ever happens you'll be the first you'll be the first enough i believe that i believe that

00:01:53.820 okay we're gonna hold you to that but speaking of doing things together we're doing this but

00:01:58.660 we're also i'm gonna get to see you guys at fight laugh feast at the ark i'm super excited did you

00:02:02.720 guys have you sold out your tickets yet tell us about the conference oh yeah the conference so

00:02:07.540 our conference is october 11th through the 14th this year at the ark encounter which is just like

00:02:12.660 for uh i'm pulling my kids out of school uh to take them to the conference because it's a

00:02:17.280 historical like scientific gospel experience if you if you think about the ark and the history of

00:02:22.060 the ark you think about the science behind you know the worldwide flood and you think about

00:02:25.500 uh you have salvation and damnation embodied in that whole uh event and story it's just a

00:02:30.420 and ken ham and the crew over there they do a fantastic and fantastic presentation of of the

00:02:35.320 ark and uh so they actually have an event center i think it's only two years old yeah it's brand

00:02:39.260 new i was talking to somebody who was there actually a couple years ago and they were like

00:02:41.500 what there's an event center yeah and i said oh yeah it must be brand new but it's not on the ark

00:02:46.160 right the event center is is separate i'm imagine it's next to it it's right it's like 200 yards

00:02:50.520 away yeah although not as cool you'd have to go in two by two if it's in the ark well there wasn't

00:02:55.340 there canham is very precise you're right so you can't he would not put the event center in the

00:03:00.680 ark because that's not historically that makes sense but not that precise toby because i've been

00:03:05.600 reliably informed that there is not a display next to the ark of giant nephilim drowning in

00:03:11.980 the flood so he's not that accurate you know what i mean he's that's awesome they're under

00:03:16.620 they're underground okay so just just just to wrap it up it's uh october 11th through the 14th at the

00:03:22.000 ark encounter um tickets are still available joel is actually doing a live show with us on christian

00:03:26.900 nationalism we got steven wolf coming pastor doug wilson and joel webbin on our live show to discuss

00:03:32.100 christian nationalism right and hash out everything right there we'll finish the conversation and

00:03:36.700 everyone will know what to think that we will make we will we will renew covenant with god

00:03:40.680 between america and and the triune god yes that's awesome amen that's awesome will there be any

00:03:46.460 baptist represented so you go to fight that feast.com to sign up there's my awesome are you

00:03:51.920 guys gabe how close are you to being what what is the limit here is it like 1100 1500 what's the

00:03:57.820 limit yeah we uh they got space for about 2000 and we're at about a thousand right now so it's a

00:04:05.080 it's a harder conference to get to we're 45 minutes from any airport it's out in the middle

00:04:09.180 of rural kentucky and so we would love to you know hopefully end up with about 1500 at the

00:04:14.280 conference 1500 is awesome and you're right it's more expensive and not because of you guys but

00:04:17.900 it's like you've got to you've got to pay for the ark and you got to pay for the conference

00:04:21.020 and you got to get a car and drive 45 minutes so my family's coming and you know you know the

00:04:27.220 whole family and so i i know like and you guys are helping helping out because i'm speaking but

00:04:31.500 i know like yeah man it's uh you could you could buy a home or you could go to uh the fight life

00:04:36.380 feast conference and it's not your phone it's almost that bad almost but uh so we're very

00:04:43.100 grateful it's gonna be a lot of buy a home yeah you're right you're right so one thing that i've

00:04:55.020 been thinking about with the r arena book is um i you know i'm thinking about like gandalf you shall

00:04:59.900 not pass standing in the middle it seems like one of the things he's saying is that this it's

00:05:04.380 inevitable this return to the strong gods because there's uh young men especially society i think a

00:05:10.460 lot of society but especially the young men know that we were duped we were lied to we were stolen

00:05:14.860 from and they're angry and understandably so um they're getting blackpilled right so it's still

00:05:20.620 trying to figure out what to do with that anger but um but but they're angry and and so it seems

00:05:25.500 as though inevitably there's going to be a return to the strong gods and and real quick if we haven't

00:05:29.980 explained that clear enough the the weak gods is like inclusivism it's it's globalism it's um

00:05:36.540 principled pluralism i would argue classical liberalism would be in it like these are the

00:05:41.500 weak gods the strong gods are are uh transcendent truths things that would be true if you had never

00:05:46.700 been born like like what doug would say so it's religion family faith um it's patriarchy rather

00:05:52.860 than egalitarianism a hierarchy you know so you got egalitarian feminism and then you've got

00:05:58.060 a hierarchical uh patriarchy you know so it's these and then it would be nationalism right and

00:06:02.700 maybe that's not the best word but it's it's nationalism versus over here globalism and so my

00:06:07.260 my point is if if this return to the strong gods lowercase g plural gods is inevitable and and we

00:06:14.620 want uh in that return for there to be a return not just to the strong gods but to the strongest

00:06:19.420 God of gods, King of Kings, Lord of Lords, Jesus Christ, then the way I see it is kind of back to

00:06:25.540 the rush doing anything. It's not whether but which. I think we're going to shift. I think

00:06:30.400 the world is going to shift from globalism to nationalism. So is it going to be Islamic or is 1.00

00:06:35.500 it going to be Christian nationalism? I think we're going to shift from feminism and egalitarianism

00:06:40.760 to patriarchy. So is it going to be Andrew Tate or is it going to be Doug Wilson? And so my point

00:06:47.580 is a lot of the, and I'm talking about brothers now, not you guys, but brothers in Christ,

00:06:52.680 good brothers. A lot of the dissidence that's happening is there are still some guys who think

00:06:59.000 the middle will hold. They think the middle will hold. They think complementarianism,

00:07:03.220 it'll suffice. They think that we don't need nationalism. They think classical liberalism,

00:07:10.340 it's still good. It'll hold. And so what I'm trying to say is Gandalf is standing on the

00:07:16.080 bridge. And I think he just needs to get off the bridge. So my point is, I think we're going to go

00:07:21.460 back to nationalism. I think it'll be Christian. You're going to have calls to prayer. Will it be 0.92

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00:09:27.420 yeah i agree with you i just think also the way that the real world works is that there's always

00:09:33.220 a whole bunch of people that don't want to don't want to get off the bridge um to continue your

00:09:38.800 analogy and so what the faith will have to do is go um they have to they have to be obedient and

00:09:44.600 they have to go build the cities go build um the shelters and you're absolutely right there's going

00:09:50.280 to we're going to call to them and say hey come on it's time to come and they'll say no i think

00:09:53.540 we can hold it a little bit longer we can hold it a little bit longer and when their places are

00:09:57.340 overrun we need to be ready to welcome them when they come and trump's going to be wanting to build 1.00

00:10:01.880 the wall yeah which i'm i'm down for that keep keep the refugees from coming into the church 0.82

00:10:08.020 you just changed everything i'm down for that wall uh but that's that's another discussion

00:10:14.560 um i part of i've been i was really thankful for reno's book because i thought he did

00:10:21.660 the best job i've heard dealing with multiculturalism right and i think people

00:10:26.340 have been really sloppy working through that concept the thing the question that i have and

00:10:31.260 I would love to talk to Reno about this.

00:10:32.440 And maybe when he comes on the show, we talk to him about it.

00:10:34.380 But I don't know if it's the return as much as it is anything, right?

00:10:42.660 I think people just are saying not that.

00:10:45.700 Not this.

00:10:46.800 Yeah, not this.

00:10:47.620 Not this.

00:10:48.140 Not this.

00:10:48.620 That meaning what we have right now.

00:10:50.260 What we currently have right now.

00:10:51.160 I don't know where we're going.

00:10:52.440 Yeah.

00:10:52.760 But this right here, this is a storm and not this.

00:10:56.160 So I don't know if it's a return.

00:10:57.560 Because if it was a return, I would see a lot more repentance.

00:11:01.260 and i'm not seeing that necessarily well see i think i'm seeing a lot of i know that's a great

00:11:06.820 point but i think what we're seeing is a lot of regret that's what i mean worldly regret doesn't

00:11:11.560 lead to repentance uh we're seeing a lot of regret but i think the regret is enough to uh to turn us

00:11:17.100 back to the strong gods repentance oh alone is enough to return us back to the strong god

00:11:22.660 does that make sense i like that i can give you i can give you one of those for that i agree but

00:11:28.000 But that's what scares me is that I don't hear enough of the repentance being proclaimed

00:11:34.460 because this is why we're talking about people are getting red-pilled and then black-pilled

00:11:38.920 and there ain't no Christ-pill, right?

00:11:42.400 Actually, I think there are people getting Christ-pilled.

00:11:44.580 I'm one of them.

00:11:46.000 Yeah, I think we can see this is really a tough conversation to have in our current time

00:11:51.740 and state because you guys got guys like Oliver Anthony, and you're like,

00:11:56.820 Wow, look what God's doing there.

00:11:58.240 Praise God for that.

00:11:59.880 Joe Rogan is asking him his testimony, like, no, no, explain to me what happened.

00:12:03.780 No, no, no.

00:12:04.920 Did you start reading the Bible?

00:12:07.000 You're like, yeah.

00:12:08.960 Keep asking, Joe.

00:12:10.180 Keep asking.

00:12:10.800 I'm going to take the, a win is a win.

00:12:12.580 A win is a win.

00:12:14.520 Okay, so I'm going to take that win.

00:12:16.320 That's a W, right?

00:12:17.420 But I don't think it's the win that we think it is.

00:12:19.660 And so there's another win that needs to happen after that as a discipleship that we're not really working that one well, right?

00:12:24.700 And so we look at that one and think like, ah, we're one.

00:12:27.780 If everything collapses tomorrow, like Joel says it might,

00:12:31.660 and I'm very sympathetic to that,

00:12:33.260 I think we're going to end up with a bunch of Oliver Anthony's in power.

00:12:38.280 Which is going to be. 1.00

00:12:39.320 A bunch of new born Christians.

00:12:40.760 Which is going to be like kind of interesting and exciting and encouraging.

00:12:44.260 We're back in judges.

00:12:44.860 But at the same time, I don't know.

00:12:46.680 Paul went through that.

00:12:47.480 But we don't know.

00:12:48.180 We're not going to know like a whole bunch of people who don't know God's word.

00:12:51.380 Yeah.

00:12:51.740 And are trying to figure it out on the fly, which again,

00:12:54.000 And maybe to your point, Knox, it's maybe the Book of Judges, where it's pretty topsy-turvy.

00:13:03.820 And that's okay.

00:13:05.460 We know how to get – look, I'm going to tell you, though, the only ditches you want to be in at that point are your theonomous because they've been prepared.

00:13:12.980 They've been doing this thing.

00:13:14.640 They've been building –

00:13:15.480 I've been talking about toilet paper before COVID.

00:13:18.540 I've always told – my dad is an ex-special forces guy.

00:13:21.160 i've always told everybody if something goes down i know where i'm going okay me and my dad ain't on

00:13:26.020 the best of turns but i know i'm at his door i'm gonna tell you that right now i know he got the

00:13:30.400 anyway i ain't gonna tell on him uh but i think we're gonna have to have those enclaves like

00:13:35.540 pastor toby was talking about earlier they're still on the bridge and we're gonna have to

00:13:38.980 create those enclaves and say listen brother we built the shelter when you get ready and before

00:13:42.500 you go down and die come on back we got you and we saw that happen in covid that's right

00:13:47.880 look what happened look at the places where people moved to yeah they found education and 0.97

00:13:53.060 they found schools you know how long we've been telling people to pull their kids out of government

00:13:56.440 schools yeah and it took a flu and we couldn't convince them it took a flu but years but god

00:14:01.780 look what god did yeah so look what god did so this is why i'm saying like i'm i'm not mad at

00:14:06.580 the mess because i know god works with that but look at what it's done people are mad at the

00:14:10.580 system while they still are in the system yeah right hey you know and it's like if you think

00:14:16.180 it's broken and like don't get out don't you know that yeah exactly and you have the ability to do

00:14:22.520 it right this is what we were talking about a little bit earlier which is like you can still

00:14:25.520 make stuff yeah you can still do stuff right you don't have to be attached to it that way and it

00:14:30.440 still has an impact on the thing up here that you want to get at right so i i appreciate what he's

00:14:36.340 saying and i think where he's going with this i'm just wondering that in between time as they're

00:14:41.220 trying to before they get to the true god what's in between that we're going to have to work through

00:14:44.740 work out yeah this might be this might take us in a slightly different direction but one of the

00:14:50.440 questions i want to ask him and i'm curious joel if you have any thoughts on this is i i really do

00:14:55.360 like i see what he's talking about i see the narrative yeah and it makes sense to me i think

00:14:59.860 something like that did happen the one the one thing that didn't sit right or the thing that's

00:15:06.000 just like i'm just not quite sure how to fit into the equation is that um basically um we um we

00:15:13.320 agreed to right and left conservative and liberal agreed to the weak gods this open society and we

00:15:21.480 did it with the blood of 65 million babies that is not a weak god strong gods demand blood

00:15:31.060 and so i part that's the part of the narrative that doesn't work i don't understand that part

00:15:37.760 because that's a lot of heart that's 65 million babies that's that's makes the aztecs look like

00:15:45.220 well that's not even worldwide what that count is no led led by america and i'm just like so

00:15:51.400 it's it's like i'm i don't know like that's the one thing that i don't understand and i'm not sure

00:15:57.540 it's like second corinthians says that um satan comes as an angel of light and i love how c.s

00:16:05.760 lewis also pictures um satan as sort of like the ultimate um anal retentive bureaucrat yeah yeah

00:16:13.080 right and so there's something about that where it's like you know the devil is this tidy minded 0.81

00:16:19.540 perfectionistic accountant with his pants pulled up to his armpits and and like that's what the

00:16:27.720 devil is right and and it seems to me that there was a certain sense in which that's who's been

00:16:32.480 running our country for the last 60 or 70 years and who said basically we're gonna we're gonna

00:16:38.680 keep it all neat and tidy no one's and so it's both it's in a sense it's like it really is that

00:16:43.000 open society it is like no sharp edges no strong feelings but it's like but maybe that's the most

00:16:48.560 devilish demonic um society of them all yes because i think so because um we you know that

00:16:56.720 at least the the strong god so to speak are out in the open like you know the racist god you know

00:17:01.620 the God who demands, you know, blood sacrifices on the altar in the middle of town is like,

00:17:06.680 well, there you go. Well, the strong gods have a standard, you know, so even if it's a false

00:17:11.400 strong God, there's still a standard that's external that people, people can read the sign.

00:17:16.500 They can read the rules. They can know if you're in, if you're out, you know, what you, what you

00:17:19.980 have to do. But, but the weak gods, Toby, you made a great point, but I think, I don't think

00:17:26.380 that it's 65 million um babies murdered in their mother's womb over the past 50 years that that's

00:17:31.780 well that's a strong god no i i think the death toll is is just higher with weak gods i really

00:17:36.880 do i i think that um as bad as hitler was i think that um you you can look to uh some of these weak

00:17:44.480 gods other other dictators um hitler you know would directly whether you know concentration

00:17:52.200 campers directly kill this many, right? Hitler killed his thousands, but Stalin his tens of

00:17:59.540 thousands. Like my point is the weak gods, they don't necessarily put people in a gas chamber.

00:18:06.080 What they do is they'll starve 10 million people or a hundred million, you know, like the weak 0.97

00:18:10.440 gods are just, they're weak, weak men kill people. Joe Biden is responsible for more deaths in his 0.86

00:18:16.960 presidential term than, than when you think of what, just what's even going on between Russia

00:18:21.080 Ukrainian youth. Weakness, when men are weak, when leaders are weak, when gods are weak,

00:18:27.080 people die. So the weak gods don't do the killing. The weak gods just remove all the

00:18:33.160 barriers to protect. I think that's what happens. That's helpful. Wasn't that some of the problem

00:18:40.460 with the strong gods too, that people love things too much? And with abortion, they love something

00:18:44.960 a lot to give up their kids. So you have this connection between their loves being strong is

00:18:50.560 what's defining the strong gods and reno does hint at this in various places when talking about

00:18:55.060 the weak gods that it's it's inherently unstable like like because right because idolatry is yeah

00:19:00.820 because people really are made in the image of god and we are inherently we desire to love and

00:19:06.500 to serve and so i think maybe that would be the answer is that yeah i mean we kind of have this

00:19:10.940 uneasy truce but it's not holding because because you don't really ever like you can't um you can't

00:19:17.780 neuter the image of god ultimately and so there's always going to be this deep love and and though

00:19:23.380 you the weak the weakness is sort of the um the whatever the the uneasy truce um you're right

00:19:31.200 they'd loved something very very deeply to kill their own babies but they didn't love faith religion

00:19:37.160 family father that nation they loved self um and they and they loved um they loved it was it was

00:19:44.980 you know i've said multiple times a nation can either worship women or save babies but it can't

00:19:49.240 do both uh they love so even that was yes we could say it's an idolatry of personal convenience and

00:19:54.500 individuality but but really in many ways it was um it was egalitarianism everybody's equal it was

00:20:00.780 feminism it was it was the love the thing that they were loving was the inclusivism weak god

00:20:06.520 that just that weak god puts up a bigger death toll than the strong gods and i think you know

00:20:11.900 my back to what you were saying to because i think you're right um the strong gods we haven't

00:20:15.840 thought in these terms um but but the strong gods they are viable not eternally not not

00:20:20.920 indefinitely viable but uh islam has has at least a reproductive plan right where secularism doesn't

00:20:28.000 and so i think that like the reason i think that's good joel and so so my point is like obviously

00:20:34.000 like allah is not god he's a false god um but but when you think of islam and even various forms of

00:20:40.020 paganism, you know, whether it's Norse mythology, these things, they still have patriarchy. They

00:20:45.120 have love for the fatherland. They have family is good. Wives and children are good. Wives should

00:20:50.980 submit to their husband. And sure, some of them are too far. Like wives are just slaves, you know,

00:20:56.220 or women have no rights at all. But my point is those basic premises of we love our nation. We

00:21:02.020 love our family. Children are a good thing. If a guy has 10 kids, he's bragging about it instead

00:21:07.720 of thinking, oh, I've been cursed. You find those basic things in Islam, you find it in Buddhism,

00:21:14.640 you find it in Norse mythology. The only thing you don't find it in is secularism. It's the crazy,

00:21:22.420 weak gods. And so I think that secularism is, when you look at human history, it's the misnomer. 0.98

00:21:28.820 It doesn't stand out as patterns in multiple cultures over multiple centuries. It's this

00:21:34.240 misnomer, and it only was allowed to exist because not just the strong gods, but the strongest God of

00:21:41.340 all, Jesus Christ, was so prevalent in the West for so long and built up such a juggernaut, so

00:21:48.680 many resources, so much blessings, so much that we thought that we could be independent, that we

00:21:54.660 didn't need any gods anymore, that man could actually be his own God, that man could be the

00:21:59.720 measure of all things. And so that's a unique, I think that's a really unique thing. And what you

00:22:05.540 just said, Chuck, that would make sense too. If it's happened anywhere else, it would be Israel 0.91

00:22:09.600 because Israel would be the only other society under the old covenant that had enough blessing 0.83

00:22:13.920 from God and enough lineage of obedience to actually think that they could be independent.

00:22:18.400 Nobody else would think that. Babylon, Assyria, everybody else would be like that. 0.74

00:22:21.560 Yeah. That's good. That's actually really helpful, Joel, because I think you're right. 1.00

00:22:27.460 um abortion is the sacrifice that we paid um for the weakness of impotence

00:22:34.640 right that's that's the that was the blood offering that we paid so that our sex would

00:22:40.980 be meaningless rather than potent and powerful in building families and generations and nations

00:22:48.300 and um and then the other piece is i think you're right i'm connecting that to the other sort of the

00:22:53.300 traditional religions of the strong gods i think this is why c.s lewis talked about how i mean i

00:22:59.960 mean his own testimony is one of being an aberrant initially with norse religion right and and greek

00:23:07.380 mythology and and he describes um that is sort of um you know a kind of um proto-gospel of beginning

00:23:14.780 to see like the story the mythologies of the gospel they were they were false and twisted

00:23:20.720 in various ways but um but saw god even in those false mythologies as preparing ancient pagan

00:23:27.400 peoples for the true myth right of christ the son of god who died and rose again for the salvation

00:23:33.320 of the world the true strong god the true son of god yeah um and i one last thing would be i don't

00:23:39.940 know if you've ever read it before um this guy's a really wonky in certain ways but uh eastern

00:23:45.340 orthodox guy named david bentley hart has a great essay called christ and nothing and he basically

00:23:51.900 argues that very point again pretty wonky in some areas but on this particular essay it's been a

00:23:56.860 while since i read it but he argues that it was the um basically the success of the gospel that

00:24:01.900 has created this sort of this emptiness and then we went in for nihilism because there was nothing

00:24:07.200 left right what because christ conquered all the other gods and i think it fits with what you're

00:24:12.120 saying it's like secularism only thrives in a place where christ has conquered all the false

00:24:16.440 that's why you get all the warnings it's a parasite that's why you get all the warnings

00:24:19.640 before you go into the promised land yeah that's why you get so many warnings yeah don't be like

00:24:24.060 them right that's all the warnings are telling you that although you're right but but i think

00:24:28.540 the point is also like the notion of like but even when you've driven like driven out all the gods

00:24:34.200 that the temptation to create a really even more unnatural religion of neutrality and secularism

00:24:43.820 where there's no God. It's the seven demons. I think it's before the seven demons. It's the

00:24:50.680 house swept clean and empty. That's right. And put in order. And what sweeps the house clean.

00:24:55.720 That's the nothing. Exactly. What sweeps the house clean. And that's, I mean, that's what

00:24:59.080 Jesus did in Israel. I mean, he's literally just casting out demons left and right, you know,

00:25:02.580 because Israel is just thoroughly demon possessed and, and he's casting out all these demons. Um, 0.62

00:25:08.220 but, but they, you know, he came to his own and they received him not. And, and, you know,

00:25:12.240 they said, let his blood be on us and our children forever and, and put the son of God to death.

00:25:16.900 And 40 years later, boom, they're crushed. And, and I think that's what the West is like the West

00:25:21.800 Christendom Christ, the true strong God. He's the only one who has the strength to cast out all the

00:25:26.360 other strong gods to cast out the demons. Uh, but then you have Christendom that put the West in

00:25:31.100 order, but now it's empty. So this is my last thought. My concern is that it won't just be

00:25:40.280 back to Norse mythology or it won't just be back to our white pagan roots. It'll be seven worse 0.93

00:25:48.280 demons that secularism has actually set the stage for, and not just secularism, but a prior

00:25:55.120 Christodom, what can seven demons do with a house that's so put in order and so clean and so empty

00:26:02.140 that it's got AI technology and nuclear technology? What can they do with that? It's one thing when

00:26:09.180 it's tomahawks, but it's another thing when it's silicon. And so that's my fears. And I think the

00:26:17.960 only bulwark to stop that is, is Jesus Christ to return to Christianity. And my fear is all these 0.97

00:26:24.660 young men, they're tired of weakness. And you know what they're convinced of? I'm talking to a lot of

00:26:29.780 these guys offline. They're convinced that Christianity is one of the weak gods. And so

00:26:34.320 I think one of the things that church has to do in not just regret, but repentance, what you're

00:26:38.100 saying, Chuck, is we need to repent of portraying a weak Christ. We need to actually repent. We

00:26:44.660 we syncretized classical liberalism in the christian faith that's right we syncretized

00:26:50.300 some of these weak gods with and we emphasize his death but we forgot about his resurrection

00:26:56.040 right we we emphasized uh that he's you know we'll write books about him being um meek and mild

00:27:01.880 but none about him being triumphant you know and and so that i think that's what we have to get

00:27:07.320 back to and and it's we can't overcorrect either we got us yeah he died he died but also also he

00:27:14.100 rose from the dead you know and i think we've got to we've got to convince young men in the west

00:27:20.480 that they don't need to go to islam that christianity is a strong god but what we're up

00:27:24.520 against is our own christian brothers insisting from larger platforms than ours uh that christianity

00:27:30.220 is uh don't you worry it's as uh weak and and non-threatening as you can possibly get so i

00:27:36.300 think we have to deal with that so that they can keep their donations from women there's no there's

00:27:40.000 no doubt that we that's no no you're right there's no doubt that we need to deal with that

00:27:44.000 joel and i'm totally with dealing with that my got my eyes on them as well but we also don't 0.62

00:27:48.280 want to let the seculars define for us what strength is that's true yeah yeah right they

00:27:52.320 don't get to define that either that's right you're right you're right hey appreciate you

00:27:56.600 joel we gotta run but thank you guys so much for coming on the show my guy keep up the good work

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The NXR Podcast - October 03, 2023

THEOLOGY APPLIED - Biblical Patriarchy Vs. Andrew Tate ｜ with the Crew from Crosspolitic

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